WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:12.400 All right hello everyone welcome to our sustainability framework advisory 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:19.140 committee we are in the City Council work session room today Friday March 25th 2022 00:00:19.140 --> 00:00:26.160 and it is 1 p.m. we will begin with our first item for individual consideration 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:33.180 consider approval of the February 25th 2022 minutes it looks like they have 00:00:33.180 --> 00:00:38.880 been corrected does everyone have a chance to review those any comments on 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:47.480 anything all right I will accept a motion Ed a second Brent all right all 00:00:47.480 --> 00:00:53.640 in favor say aye aye all right so we will move on to our second item for 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:57.960 individual consideration receive a report call the discussion and give 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:03.480 staff feedback on regional greenhouse gas inventory update and greenhouse gas 00:01:03.480 --> 00:01:13.160 inventory methods comparison we missed you last time JT happy to be here this 00:01:13.160 --> 00:01:20.040 time so good afternoon committee members my name is James Douglas I'm the 00:01:20.040 --> 00:01:24.360 conservation programs coordinator and as you stated today we will be talking 00:01:24.360 --> 00:01:29.800 about the greenhouse gas inventory specifically with some methods 00:01:29.800 --> 00:01:35.360 comparison and some methods updates for you and so today we will go over the 00:01:35.360 --> 00:01:40.120 background as a way of refresher we will talk about the North Central Texas 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:44.800 Council of Governments regional cohort for greenhouse gas inventories we'll go 00:01:44.800 --> 00:01:50.600 over that methodology comparison talk about where we're at with our current 00:01:50.600 --> 00:01:55.800 methodology and our current progress on that cohort and then we will go over 00:01:55.800 --> 00:02:02.960 some options that staff is considering and some potential next steps so just 00:02:02.960 --> 00:02:08.200 by way of reminder the greenhouse gas inventory process began in 2011 and 00:02:08.200 --> 00:02:12.960 during that year a baseline was retroactively calculated for the year 00:02:12.960 --> 00:02:19.360 2006 in the year 2015 staff began calculating the greenhouse gas inventory 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:24.880 annually and just as a reminder we can think of the greenhouse gas inventory as 00:02:24.880 --> 00:02:30.120 an analysis of the city's carbon footprint we do that in two scopes we do 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:34.360 that at the community level so that includes residents all transportation 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:38.640 within the city and then we do that at the level of just municipal operations 00:02:38.640 --> 00:02:46.580 to get a sense of what the city's carbon footprint is this aids in 00:02:46.580 --> 00:02:50.400 conservation efforts so through the inventory data collection process we 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:56.340 look at energy we look at water we look at natural gas and so all of these 00:02:56.340 --> 00:03:00.920 things help in our conservation efforts of those natural resources we also 00:03:00.920 --> 00:03:05.700 report those results annually through the city's sustainability reporting to 00:03:05.700 --> 00:03:12.120 CDP which was formerly the carbon disclosure project moving now into the 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:16.240 North Central Texas Council of Governments cohort this is a regional 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:21.700 collaboration of 12 cities plus the cog and it started in 2020 with the goal of 00:03:21.700 --> 00:03:28.560 creating a 2019 greenhouse gas inventory for all 12 of those cities plus the 16 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:34.480 county region this is one of only a handful of projects in the United States 00:03:34.480 --> 00:03:39.360 that is looking at greenhouse gas inventories on a regional level as well 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:44.760 as all of those cities that are encompassed within it one benefit of 00:03:44.760 --> 00:03:49.480 this is it standardizes regional methods across the board so prior to this only 00:03:49.480 --> 00:03:54.080 three cities in the North Texas region had inventories that was Denton Dallas 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:59.040 and Plano and so this helps all 12 of those cities kind of compare apples to 00:03:59.040 --> 00:04:03.800 apples we're all operating off of the same playbook it also increases 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:08.360 awareness of greenhouse gas emissions in the area and as far as the North 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:11.840 Central Texas Council of Governments is concerned this helps them with their 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:16.440 regional planning efforts around transportation and air quality and there 00:04:16.440 --> 00:04:20.840 are many many air pollutants that are co-emitted with greenhouse gas 00:04:20.840 --> 00:04:25.400 emissions some of those are ozone precursors particular matter things like 00:04:25.400 --> 00:04:30.920 that and so from from that stance that's something that the the region is looking 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:36.560 at that relationship and this cohort was introduced by the regional integration of 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:40.720 sustainability efforts or rise which is a collaboration of North Texas cities 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:51.520 that is hosted at them at the cog so the methodology changes are that best 00:04:51.520 --> 00:04:57.200 described in the table in exhibit 2 that's included in your backup a brief 00:04:57.200 --> 00:05:02.880 summary of that the original methodology that the city of Denton has used from 00:05:02.880 --> 00:05:08.960 2006 up until present is related to the equally US community protocols this 00:05:08.960 --> 00:05:14.360 covers five basic categories of metrics to complete an inventory that includes 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:20.360 18 unique metrics that sustainability staff goes out collects analyzes and 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:27.160 produces that annual report the regional methodology has expanded that scope so 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:32.040 the North Central Texas Council of Governments they have additional staff 00:05:32.040 --> 00:05:36.000 and additional access to different data sets that exist at the regional level 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:40.800 that might not exist at the city level and for that reason that that scope is 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:45.840 able to be expanded a little bit so between the two methodologies we're 00:05:45.840 --> 00:05:51.720 moving from 18 individual metrics to 33 individual metrics and so that's an 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:58.520 example is expanded transportation so previously those models were available 00:05:58.520 --> 00:06:04.080 for on-road transportation those models have been expanded and so additional 00:06:04.080 --> 00:06:10.800 off-road transportation things like aviation will now be included in this 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:19.280 expanded scope and the as I said the Council of Governments and those 12 00:06:19.280 --> 00:06:25.960 cities are looking at a 2019 baseline this is the most comparable year for for 00:06:25.960 --> 00:06:31.600 future inventories that isn't going to be impacted by the data changes due to 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:37.600 COVID-19 so 2020 and 2021 are going to be you know not the ones that we want to 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:46.040 compare to when we're talking about sort of the standard operations so this is 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:51.300 the current progress based on that 2019 baseline so this is for both the city of 00:06:51.300 --> 00:06:58.440 Denton and for the regional inventory the COG has been collecting data at the 00:06:58.440 --> 00:07:03.440 regional level and then parsing it out into the individual cities which helps a 00:07:03.440 --> 00:07:07.280 lot for some of these larger data sets some of the remaining metrics that we 00:07:07.280 --> 00:07:11.360 still have are that off-road transportation piece and some of the 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:16.240 metrics related to water and wastewater this is once again at a regional level 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:21.080 collection things like nitrogen discharge or something that isn't quite 00:07:21.080 --> 00:07:25.240 readily available and so the COG is going out and looking for those data sets 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:31.160 with each individual water and wastewater treatment plan the expected 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:36.680 date for all of that data is June 2022 and staff will be turning around that 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:41.400 2019 report in association with the regional cohort as quickly as possible 00:07:41.400 --> 00:07:47.040 following that data acquisition the regional inventory will also have its 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:53.600 own report associated with it for the 16 County region that will be done as as 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:57.440 soon as the COG staff is able there's going to be a little bit more data 00:07:57.440 --> 00:08:02.880 analysis with those larger data sets and then for each individual city they will 00:08:02.880 --> 00:08:11.640 be producing their reports on their own timelines so these are the options that 00:08:11.640 --> 00:08:16.160 staff is considering moving forward so we have our previous methodology that 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:21.720 we've used up into 2019 so we do have a 2019 inventory that is based on the 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:26.440 previous methodology we'll have a 2019 inventory based on new methodology so 00:08:26.440 --> 00:08:31.040 we'll have a nice comparison there to look at but moving forward the previous 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:37.000 methodology offers a smaller scope but a faster turnaround time so that's 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:40.120 something that could be done hypothetically on an annual basis as 00:08:40.120 --> 00:08:44.360 we've been doing some of those inputs will be estimated and not actual 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:49.200 because data sets are not generated necessarily on an annual basis for some 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:53.800 of those larger data sets when we're talking about the new methodology 00:08:53.800 --> 00:08:58.400 obviously it's a larger scope a little bit more intensive for that and so that 00:08:58.400 --> 00:09:02.520 can be calculated on a two to three year basis depending on where we get the 00:09:02.520 --> 00:09:08.240 maximum overlap of data availability actual data availability as I said 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:15.760 that's an expanded scope 33 individual metrics and the as we're creating sort 00:09:15.760 --> 00:09:21.320 of these connections through the COG and as they reach out for this data the idea 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:25.800 is that the next collection of that data will go a little bit more smoothly once 00:09:25.800 --> 00:09:30.400 those connections have been established and then with the new methodology of 00:09:30.400 --> 00:09:33.520 course that will be in line with regional estimates for cities that 00:09:33.520 --> 00:09:41.160 continue to pursue the greenhouse gas inventory on a on a biannual basis 00:09:41.160 --> 00:09:46.920 so these are the next steps that we're looking at we will be completing the 00:09:46.920 --> 00:09:53.800 2019 inventory with the new methodology June 2022 and however long the analysis 00:09:53.800 --> 00:09:59.040 takes after that should be within the summer and those results and the 00:09:59.040 --> 00:10:04.360 comparison to the old methodology will be presented to this body with that we 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:09.160 will begin work on the 2021 inventory following the new methodology and 00:10:09.160 --> 00:10:14.360 continuing with that expanded scope we expect that that many of those data 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:18.760 sources for example the new transportation model that the COG was 00:10:18.760 --> 00:10:22.600 able to create specifically for this project will continue to be available 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:28.440 and so we'll be able to do that that same methodology for 2021 and then we 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:32.360 will be considering updating the 2018 inventory which is the current baseline 00:10:32.360 --> 00:10:38.600 and if we will continue with this new methodology we will want either the 2018 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:43.400 inventory to be brought up to that same scope or the 2019 inventory to be 00:10:43.400 --> 00:10:48.680 labeled as the new baseline for future comparison and so that is currently 00:10:48.680 --> 00:10:53.080 where we stand and I will take any questions that you have anybody have 00:10:53.080 --> 00:11:02.000 questions I'd like more if you can give me some more information between the 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:12.440 advantage of collecting every two to three years so you're saying that that 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:21.560 rather than then doing it annually we'll do it over a two year or three year 00:11:21.560 --> 00:11:27.360 window and you say the advantages of that one of them is that it's a wider 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:33.280 scope and so can you explain what that wider scope is sure so if you take a 00:11:33.280 --> 00:11:39.920 look at exhibit two you'll see those individual metrics are listed there so 00:11:39.920 --> 00:11:44.240 the wider scope includes every single one of those metrics are you talking 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:49.280 about this yes yep so those emission metrics on the right-hand side the 00:11:49.280 --> 00:11:54.400 wider scope includes all of those metrics the previous scope is going to 00:11:54.400 --> 00:11:59.360 be the metrics that are listed in the black font and so those are the ones 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:03.760 that we have been able to find on an annual basis to complete the annual 00:12:03.760 --> 00:12:13.420 inventory so those those will still be included in the absolutely okay thank 00:12:13.420 --> 00:12:15.480 you 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:24.080 thanks JT because as always really good stuff strikes me sustainability is just 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:30.200 understaffed for all the huge things we're taking on so I appreciate it so my 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:35.720 question is how does this relate to our current efforts for a climate action 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:40.200 plan on the city level and it's kind of like there's little pieces to that 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:45.520 question for example I mean the big picture is this helping or distracting 00:12:45.520 --> 00:12:51.840 from that effort or or neither and I'm also just confused about these methods 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:57.240 talk about previous method in a new method is there a third method which is 00:12:57.240 --> 00:13:00.960 what we're using for our climate action plan because I know it's inventory goal 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:09.160 setting and then action steps right so our is this standardized method the same 00:13:09.160 --> 00:13:15.400 one we're using for our efforts here I guess put it as a concrete question yeah 00:13:15.400 --> 00:13:20.240 so let me I'll take that one step backwards so this is just for the 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:26.600 inventory itself so the collection of data to generate a value for a carbon 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:31.800 footprint for the community and so the methodology that sort of rolls into the 00:13:31.800 --> 00:13:35.600 larger climate action plan is going to be separate from this so this is really 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:40.280 just that first piece that that quantitative metric of where we at with 00:13:40.280 --> 00:13:44.640 our current carbon emissions so the inventory that we've been using 00:13:44.640 --> 00:13:50.120 previously has been in line with the US the equally US community protocols and so 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:54.160 those protocols say you have to have these metrics under these five basic 00:13:54.160 --> 00:13:59.440 categories and so those 18 metrics that we've generated they round out that that 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:04.280 five basic categories so that we can produce that inventory what we're 00:14:04.280 --> 00:14:11.200 looking at here is closer to what organizations report to along the lines 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:15.960 of the global protocols and a city like the city of Dallas has sort of that 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:20.640 larger scope built in and so when you go to report to some different 00:14:20.640 --> 00:14:25.040 organizations CDP is one of them that you can say okay we're reporting with 00:14:25.040 --> 00:14:30.360 the the global protocols and sort of that larger so that we're taking a look 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:38.160 at here and so this this puts Denton the region sort of those cities more along 00:14:38.160 --> 00:14:45.480 that path than just the US a community protocols now those protocols do the the 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:49.640 a community protocols are accepted you know through our annual reporting with 00:14:49.640 --> 00:14:53.040 the carbon disclosure project and so we still have all of that historical data 00:14:53.040 --> 00:15:02.040 okay do you so I'm just asking you this regional effort which I think is great 00:15:02.040 --> 00:15:07.800 is it sounds like it can be synergistic and even improve what we're doing in a 00:15:07.800 --> 00:15:12.320 more local level that's kind of the message yes and some of the data sets 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:16.920 sort of come in a little bit cleaner at the regional level transportation being 00:15:16.920 --> 00:15:21.040 a great example of one so when you're talking about the city boundary of 00:15:21.040 --> 00:15:26.480 incoming traffic outbound traffic and so when you look at the region as a whole 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:28.560 you're going to get a little bit more accurate number of some of that 00:15:28.560 --> 00:15:34.180 transportation and so when they're able to to divvy up those vehicle miles 00:15:34.180 --> 00:15:38.600 traveling for example that's that's one benefit that we get a little bit cleaner 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:44.160 value there we have one more question that for because we're going to have we 00:15:44.160 --> 00:15:50.600 are going to be proposing these goals eventually net zero by 2050 is the 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:55.000 region also going to have that aspect or that is I mean collectively as a region 00:15:55.000 --> 00:16:01.120 or is this more just inventory so my understanding currently is that it is 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:05.960 more of a fact-finding mission at this time for transportation planning and for 00:16:05.960 --> 00:16:09.840 air quality planning there's just such a large overlap with something like a 00:16:09.840 --> 00:16:14.120 greenhouse gas inventory that it's a great metric to put to you know help 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:20.920 analyze both of those things I'm just a few questions comments so this relates 00:16:20.920 --> 00:16:26.120 back to our simply sustainable framework with chapter 2 so this is something that 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:32.960 that we're working on this is our chapter so my question is how does this 00:16:32.960 --> 00:16:39.640 moving from annually to two to three years affect that like our goals how do 00:16:39.640 --> 00:16:45.360 we keep up with the things that we we we state that we want to do we want to be 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:50.520 better if we're not getting that annual input every year for this committee or 00:16:50.520 --> 00:16:56.640 council to review yep and so it would basically be a check-in every two years 00:16:56.640 --> 00:17:04.320 now some of these metrics things like electricity use by the community that's 00:17:04.320 --> 00:17:07.920 something that we can pull sort of the average residential usage you know we've 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:12.880 got that value we can do a check-in on that annual water usage by the community 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:19.240 we can do a check-in on that in terms of just compiling all 33 of those metrics 00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:25.720 into one report that is the greenhouse gas inventory when we go into sort of 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:30.760 that level of analysis that's something that on a two-year cycle is a little bit 00:17:30.760 --> 00:17:35.240 more manageable than on a one-year cycle okay so you kind of answered my question 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:39.200 I was wondering if we could do both but I guess for the things that directly 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:44.240 affect the decisions that council makes regarding utilities and things like that 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:51.080 for greenhouse emissions that data you could get annually if you needed to some 00:17:51.080 --> 00:17:59.040 of the relevant metric level data can be pulled on an annual basis things like 00:17:59.040 --> 00:18:04.400 the vehicle modeling the transportation modeling is going to be a little bit 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:12.760 more difficult to do on an annual basis okay so my next question is are the 00:18:12.760 --> 00:18:18.240 resources and data sources that you referred to from cog and regional are 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:26.600 they easily accessible to to you guys to our staff for those metrics I mean is the 00:18:26.600 --> 00:18:31.880 communication well can you can you access that pretty easily so those are 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:35.120 connections that we've been establishing through this whole process 00:18:35.120 --> 00:18:39.800 especially for the metrics that haven't been calculated in the past so through 00:18:39.800 --> 00:18:43.760 our annual dentin specific inventory we've been able to build those 00:18:43.760 --> 00:18:47.040 relationships establish those connections for those data sources and 00:18:47.040 --> 00:18:51.120 on those metrics those are a relatively quick turnaround when it becomes 00:18:51.120 --> 00:18:56.160 available some some things it takes a while to calculate on you know whoever 00:18:56.160 --> 00:19:03.240 is housing the data and so some of those new metrics have been a little bit slow 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:08.160 going but once this process is complete we've got a list of where that data 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:13.100 lives what is the analysis that has to take place between the raw data and the 00:19:13.100 --> 00:19:17.200 data that we report once all of that is figured out you know the next round 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:22.680 should be more seamless one more question pertaining to this and then just 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:27.640 one other question I'm curious about in regards to the benefits of going to two 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:35.200 to three or are there any chances that we would lose out on grants if we didn't 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:41.320 have annual data on greenhouse emissions that we apply for if we weren't to get 00:19:41.320 --> 00:19:48.000 updated information as frequently I will say that for organizations that require 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:53.120 these have a greenhouse gas inventory most of those organizations require at 00:19:53.120 --> 00:19:58.160 a minimum on a bi-annual basis and so a lot of the cities that are our members 00:19:58.160 --> 00:20:02.400 of those are producing these every other year and so that should be sufficient 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:07.840 for the grant funding okay I just want to make sure we're not losing opportunities 00:20:07.840 --> 00:20:13.440 so could we say two years and not three years because the option is two to three 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:20.960 I mean how do we make sure that it stays right and the two to three year window 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:27.900 is more so if we you know say for 2021 we've got a lot of data that has been 00:20:27.900 --> 00:20:33.840 produced for that year that would be a great year to do that inventory if we're 00:20:33.840 --> 00:20:38.080 looking at a comparison between 2021 and 2022 if we know those data sets aren't 00:20:38.080 --> 00:20:42.520 going to be available specifically for 2022 or if they're going to be estimates 00:20:42.520 --> 00:20:48.320 we want to take as much actual data as we can to get that the the best number 00:20:48.320 --> 00:20:53.800 that we can generate for that sorry just my last question so you mentioned water 00:20:53.800 --> 00:20:58.760 and wastewater and when you were talking about it I just I became curious do you 00:20:58.760 --> 00:21:03.440 the local entities or cities have different water requirements that say 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:08.320 regional the regional requirements as far as like chemical runoff and things 00:21:08.320 --> 00:21:13.520 like that so how do you get regional information if each city has different 00:21:13.520 --> 00:21:18.280 restrictions it's complicated and this is one of the the benefits of sort of 00:21:18.280 --> 00:21:23.680 doing it at the regional level so the cog is able to collect that data on on a 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:28.440 large scale from all of the different water and wastewater producers here 00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:35.040 within North Texas what they're able to do from there is divvy it up based on 00:21:35.040 --> 00:21:39.600 usage to each of the individual entities those 12 entities that are a part of the 00:21:39.600 --> 00:21:44.280 cohort and they'll be able to say from and it may be within a city that you're 00:21:44.280 --> 00:21:49.560 pulling from two different water plants let's say for your drinking water they're 00:21:49.560 --> 00:21:55.880 able to take the metrics from both of those water plants and basically ratio 00:21:55.880 --> 00:21:59.720 that out to each of those individual entities where that may be more 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:04.200 difficult for them to do on their own okay but say for that that's something 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:07.840 separate than what our water and wastewater does they they're monitoring 00:22:07.840 --> 00:22:12.280 our water system all the time that's definitely one of the benefits and as 00:22:12.280 --> 00:22:17.480 we're producing those annual inventories historically that's one of the things 00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:21.360 that sort of allowed us to do that as a full-service city having access to that 00:22:21.360 --> 00:22:29.880 data okay okay just a couple questions on these new metrics and we're just 00:22:29.880 --> 00:22:33.160 curious how the data is actually collected or partitioned to individual 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:38.200 cities so for aviation for example obviously is a huge regional issue 00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:42.440 because of our large airports and then communities line either the north or 00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:47.040 south of DSW for example might experience a heavier deposition of 00:22:47.040 --> 00:22:51.480 aviation driven missions than say communities like Plano where cities to 00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:55.160 the west of here so is that as a regional estimate or is that also 00:22:55.160 --> 00:23:02.720 partitioned out to cities as ownership of that emission itself right so it will 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:08.080 be partitioned out a good example to aviation's a little bit more difficult 00:23:08.080 --> 00:23:12.120 to kind of you know picture in your head so you can think about railways has 00:23:12.120 --> 00:23:16.760 another one and so they will be partitioning that out based on the 00:23:16.760 --> 00:23:22.640 number of miles that exist within a city or a jurisdiction and so they will be 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:27.360 able to separate out that data and deliver that information to the cities 00:23:27.360 --> 00:23:31.600 and then on a regional level you know they'll be able to to capture all of 00:23:31.600 --> 00:23:36.160 that so it's yeah and then for instance we have a local airport as well it is 00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:40.440 it also considered locally generated emissions say like from takeoffs or 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:45.080 landings yes as compared to like these larger transportation into DFW that are 00:23:45.080 --> 00:23:48.960 just flying overhead is there a separation there yes there is and so 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:53.800 yep so they'll be looking at kind of similar to how transportation is you 00:23:53.800 --> 00:23:57.200 know if you're taking a trip within just that jurisdiction or you have the 00:23:57.200 --> 00:24:01.600 outbound in the inbound they'll be taking a look at that on all of those um and 00:24:01.600 --> 00:24:07.040 then I see that non-utility fuel estimates are also added in under 00:24:07.040 --> 00:24:10.720 residential energy is that including things like lawn equipment or what is 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:17.000 factored into that new metric right so those will be things like propane usage 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:22.100 and that's going to be something that is based on if not national averages state 00:24:22.100 --> 00:24:27.160 averages just because that's a really difficult one to measure without sort of 00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:31.280 getting into the consumption inventory looking at purchases and things like 00:24:31.280 --> 00:24:35.440 that and so that will be more of an estimate but we'll be able to to add 00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:39.200 that to the inventory where previously it wasn't lawn equipment specifically or 00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:43.600 just with like say outboard rails with propane tanks I believe that there is a 00:24:43.600 --> 00:24:50.280 metric for both of those so it's it's essentially taking a look at what fuels 00:24:50.280 --> 00:24:55.400 exist that we have data for and then supplementing that information with you 00:24:55.400 --> 00:25:00.400 know estimates based on population essentially and then just last one the 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:06.080 fugitive emissions I know that member so has made a couple questions about our 00:25:06.080 --> 00:25:10.400 gas leaks emissions and whether those are reported or just estimated is that 00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:15.680 something too that we have the ability to produce data for is that again just a 00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:21.160 regional estimate so with the help of the North Central Texas Council of 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:25.640 Governments we've been able to get some data in terms of the just like 00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:29.360 electricity has transmission and distribution losses essentially that 00:25:29.360 --> 00:25:34.640 information so production versus what was actually used in the in the home or 00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:39.920 you know at a partial facility what have you and so those values in the 00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:43.760 difference between those two values we have and so that's what's going to be 00:25:43.760 --> 00:25:48.120 going into that that fugitive emission that would that include things just like 00:25:48.120 --> 00:25:53.440 pipeline emissions as well as things like flaring from well heads the latter 00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:58.000 one I would have to double check on and we are working with IGLI on that one but 00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:02.200 it you can really think of it as losses from transmission and distribution 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:06.160 essentially for natural gas. Thank you. 00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:08.160 Go ahead. 00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:20.160 This may be too far down the line to even consider the gathering of the data. We're going to compare it against some standards that are already established. 00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:26.160 Maybe I should say the headline of this question is human health, the impact on human health. 00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:36.160 Will that data provide information to us and even more on an annual basis if there is a major pollutant that 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:46.160 leads to immediate discussion concerns. Will that be part of our plan? Is that part of your scope of work? 00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:52.160 To produce even information that could help us from a human health perspective. 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:56.160 That's why we measure everything that we're measuring and doing the work that we're doing. 00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:04.160 We're concerned about the human health factor in this thing. So is that to be part of this total programming? 00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:12.160 This definitely gets the ball rolling for that. So just as the COG is doing this partially from an air quality perspective 00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:19.160 because of the amount of air pollutants that are co-emitted with greenhouse gases, they come from the same sources. 00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:26.160 This is a really good metric for them to get that started and also through the climate planning process. 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:31.160 This is sort of that first step and as we get into the scope of that climate plan 00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:38.160 public health will absolutely be something that we take a look at and this will give us a good starting point for that. 00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:39.160 Thank you. 00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:46.160 I appreciate that question on public health, human health because that's the reason why we're here. 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:47.160 Exactly. 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:48.160 So thank you. 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:49.160 You're welcome. 00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:51.160 Are we good? 00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:57.160 Alright, we look forward to bringing those results back to you this summer and that is all I have. 00:27:57.160 --> 00:27:59.160 Thank you, JT. I appreciate it. 00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:00.160 You're welcome. 00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:06.160 Alright, so we will move on to item C, staff reports. 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:12.160 There are four. Catherine, are you going to take those or do you want to? 00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:19.160 I will take those and we can start if you have any questions on any of them. 00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:23.160 We can walk through them a little bit if you'd like to. 00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:32.160 I have a question about why our bird thing, why we didn't get approved for Bird City. 00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:34.160 If we know. 00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:39.160 They did not give us a report of how it was graded. 00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:50.160 I have to have a call with their coordinator for her to let me know which credits they did not like the information that we provided. 00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:53.160 So that's something that we'll be working on. 00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:55.160 And then following back up? 00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:57.160 Yes, we're applying. 00:28:57.160 --> 00:29:07.160 And they weren't super enthusiastic about first time applicants being awarded Bird City. 00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:12.160 So it's a very hard designation according to their coordinator. 00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:15.160 I'll be working with her next year. 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:19.160 Okay. Well I have no doubt that we can achieve it. 00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:28.160 Did anyone else have a question about that or any other item? 00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:30.160 Dark skylighting maybe? 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:32.160 Brian, did you see that? 00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:33.160 Yes, I did. 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.160 Ed? 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:43.160 I was looking at the next steps and it's very comprehensive. 00:29:43.160 --> 00:30:02.160 My question is, is there going to be, I mentioned this at the last meeting, is there going to be any information regarding just basics of climate change to educate people what it is and what causes it? 00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:04.160 On the website? 00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:07.160 On the website or as a presentation? 00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:16.160 We've done some 101 classes in the past, so that's definitely something that we can add. 00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:18.160 We've been doing some videos. 00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:22.160 So we can add some videos and let those live out there for people to go and watch. 00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:26.160 And some, I can say, information on the sustainability website? 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:29.160 The website and Facebook and we can share them that way. 00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:42.160 Good. And even, I've seen some places where they actually explain carbon footprint and how people can take very simple actions to reduce theirs. 00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:59.160 So I think the more we can approach that from an educational standpoint, the greater the success of what's coming down the road in terms of the climate action plan. 00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:06.160 And even, I'm sorry, even if we don't make our own, I'm sure there's some pretty great videos out there already that maybe we can link. 00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:08.160 There's a lot of stuff out there. 00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:19.160 And Canvas has some great conversations with Denton ISD about their solar and their buses so that we can share that information. 00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:23.160 So we'll be highlighting that in the publications. 00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:35.160 And on the recycling, I know that we talked about it here in the background and that before we've had it in a presentation with DISD and their contamination. 00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:39.160 Is there still outreach with them about that? 00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:48.160 And I don't know if that's something we can discuss through this topic or not. 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:55.160 Maybe we can have, we need an update specifically about that so that we can discuss it a little better. 00:31:55.160 --> 00:32:02.160 That's one of the things that I wanted to bring back in the next couple of months is we do that monthly with our internal team. 00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:05.160 So we'll bring that back and share that. 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:12.160 It'll be apartment and multi or multifamily recycling and school recycling and then some of our commercial too. 00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:18.160 So we can let you know what we're doing on all of those fronts to address contamination. 00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:23.160 Okay. It's probably better on the agenda situation that we do that. 00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:31.160 Thanks. Anybody else have questions about Matrix, staff reports? 00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:45.160 I guess this is relevant. I was just curious if we will be kept abreast of process of hiring a consultant for the climate action plan. 00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:50.160 And what is our role in that? 00:32:50.160 --> 00:33:08.160 I will have to talk to purchasing about how that will work, but definitely keep you abreast of where we are in the process. We're going to go in two weeks now, two and a half weeks to solicitation review committee on that. 00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:10.160 Great. Thank you. 00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:20.160 And I have something to add to the Matrix. So I will go ahead and I don't know if I should do that now or under concluding items. 00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:24.160 Probably concluding and I thought I saw Adam's hand up down there too. 00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:26.160 All right, Adam, go ahead. 00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:46.160 I want to second what Ed said, I'd be nice to kind of get an update on the climate action plan because I'm just, it's probably my fault, but I'm confused on if maybe councils even weighed in on that at all yet to approve anything or we don't need their approval. So some clarification on that. 00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:58.160 Okay, let me, I think we'll close this item and we'll open concluding items so that you can restate that because I feel like that's probably something that a presentation that we should get. 00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:17.160 Okay, but before you close it, there was a couple other comments on the matrix. Quick ones. Number one, it says Briggle light covers for new development. I don't know. Did I ask for that? I'm not sure. I must have said something, but I don't know. 00:34:17.160 --> 00:34:30.160 You said that quite a while back, but yes. Yes. I'm not sure to me that's a priority with all the other things going, so I thought I would just say that. Okay. Yeah. 00:34:30.160 --> 00:34:52.160 And then on number two, Ed's point on the matrix. I think that's really important and I just wonder if as part of that, given global developments and in particular, Biden's commitment recently to increase export of liquefied natural gas. 00:34:52.160 --> 00:35:02.160 I'd be kind of curious if our gas will administrator or anybody knows if there's any noise being made about increased production on the Barnett shale. 00:35:02.160 --> 00:35:11.160 It might be nice to just see if anybody's got their ear to the ground on that. I was at a forum, council forum last night. 00:35:11.160 --> 00:35:25.160 People are saying it's kind of odd. We don't see more activity around here and I don't know why that is. Anyways, if somebody could include that as part of the gas will presentation. 00:35:25.160 --> 00:35:30.160 It would be nice to know if we should brace ourselves for increased activity. Does that make sense? 00:35:30.160 --> 00:35:43.160 Just sort of the status of the current situation with gas drilling. Yeah. May I make a comment on that? Is it about the matrix? What Adam just said. Okay. Yeah. 00:35:43.160 --> 00:35:58.160 From what I understand, what new drilling there is in the ETJ, and maybe Michael can. So we're not posted to discuss that, so what we'll do is we'll just add that to the matrix so that we can have a full discussion on that. 00:35:58.160 --> 00:36:12.160 Maybe you can respond to that question when we have it. Just keep it back here. Okay. Well I was suggesting it could be part of what Ed's already on the matrix. Yeah. If that's okay. Yep. 00:36:12.160 --> 00:36:36.160 And I asked for a presentation on the data centers that are coming, and I don't see it on the matrix. Unless it's there and I'm missing it. But I'd like for this, because of the electricity usage and everything, I would like for us to have some information on. 00:36:36.160 --> 00:36:53.160 Wow. Well it was in my head that I even needed to do that. But I really thought it was on here. Yes. I think it was. Maybe it just got taken off. We could just add it back. We'll do. Thank you. 00:36:53.160 --> 00:37:17.160 So then we'll move on to concluding items. If we have anything new that we want to add to the matrix or discuss, we can share that now. Anybody? I'd just like to say that I watched the presentation to city council about the work plan. 00:37:17.160 --> 00:37:29.160 I was very happy to see that the council was positively affected by that and agrees with everything. Awesome. I think that's really good. 00:37:29.160 --> 00:37:52.160 That's good to hear. Adam? Yeah, I was thinking, the climate action plan touches on so many things, but it might be nice to have a presentation that updates us on that process. Whenever staff feels like it's a good point to do that. And I'm particularly interested in how that plan's going to gear into all the other plans. 00:37:52.160 --> 00:38:06.160 I mean it was Tuesday, council just passed the mobility, I think they updated mobility plan on the 2040 plan. There was another smaller thing about, I can't remember, but a lot of plans are kind of coming through the system. 00:38:06.160 --> 00:38:25.160 And we got another one we think is really important. So maybe the context of that update could be a little bit of how it fits into the bigger planning picture, if possible. So something like that. 00:38:25.160 --> 00:38:51.160 I would like to add to Adam's comment, I think that we could stand to use an update on the climate action plan process and what our role is in that continuing on as far as city council, if they've been presented on it, if they've agreed since we're not in direct communication with them on that as individuals. 00:38:51.160 --> 00:39:17.160 And the last thing is an update for us, maybe just a staff report on the Avondale organic gardening, or just the organic gardening in our parks. Maybe we could have parks come and talk to us about that. I know that it's something that we've discussed and it's been on hold for a little bit. So just an update on that. 00:39:17.160 --> 00:39:25.160 That would be great. 00:39:25.160 --> 00:39:32.160 All right, well we will conclude at 1.39 for our shortest meeting on record. 00:39:32.160 --> 00:39:37.160 Thank you everybody. Have a good weekend.