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 Good afternoon and welcome to the City of Denton's Planning and Zoning Commission

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 meeting for Wednesday March 9th 2022. This is our work session and with the

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 quorum present I will call us to order at 5 o 3 p.m. We don't have any work

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 session reports. Our first item on the agenda is citizen comments on consent. I

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 don't see anyone here. Do we have anyone on the phone waiting? No we don't have

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 anyone on the phone. Very good thank you. All right then we'll go right into the

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 clarification of agenda items. Let's see any discussion on the minutes? There were

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 yeah two days of minutes. No okay. How about consent? Nothing on consent? Okay.

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 Items for individual consideration. For A okay and that one is recommended for

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 approval. Okay then for B I believe that is an extension request. Jordan did you

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 have your hand up? No? Okay okay. For C and I believe that is also an extension

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 request. Okay for D same extension request to date certain 323. Okay then

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 for E recommended for approval. Any questions? For F that is a requested

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 extension. Is that correct? Okay to 323. We have 4G it was a very late email on 4G

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 but they have worked through staff comments on that and it is recommended

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 for approval now. Has everyone had a chance to see that in email and if not I

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 can have Julie bring it up now. Okay we're good. Okay that's going to be the

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 same thing with 4H. There's a late approval on that as well. Any questions on

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 that? Okay and that one's now recommended for approval. Well all right then we'll

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 go right on to our public hearings for the night. The first one 5A there was a

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 notice error so staff is requesting that to be postponed to 323 so I will be

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 asking for a motion just for an extension on that item so we can clear

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 that. Okay any questions on that? Okay and then a 5B is hold a public hearing

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 consider making a recommendation to council on the comprehensive plan update.

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 Do we want to have a short presentation on that now or do we just want to wait

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 for questions? If there are any top of mind. Hi Tina. Hi Tina Fergens deputy

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 director of development services. I'm happy to answer any questions right now.

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 We were planning on reserving the presentation for the public hearing just

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 to not duplicate but if there's anything that the Commission needs clarification

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 on I'm happy to address that. Okay thank you. Okay sorry about the technical

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 difficulty in the pause. I'll call us back to order at 5 0 8 p.m. Tina I will

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 let you finish. Tina Fergens deputy director of development services. Chairman

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 Ellison response to your question. Staff was not anticipating doing a

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 presentation for the work session. We were planning on preserving our

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 presentation for the public hearing. Happy to address any questions that the

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 Commission may have at this time as it relates to the comprehensive plan and

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 also we were going to take a similar approach with mobility plan if that's

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 acceptable. Okay thank you very much. Thank you. Any questions for the comp plan

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 update or the mobility plan before the public hearing? Okay thank you much. I

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 appreciate that. So then that will take us to 5 D which is hold a public hearing

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 consider making recommendation to counsel of an ordinance amending the

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 development code in section 7 4 7 a. Christy I'll have you come down I don't

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 know if we are we approaching this the same with a presentation at the public

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 hearing. Answering any questions now? Okay all right. Okay sounds good. Commission

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 any questions for Christy before the public hearing that you want her to

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 address here at the work session? Sure Commissioner Pruitt. Thank you. I guess

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 I'll just mention a couple things that that I'll be interested in hearing about

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 and if it takes some some time to reference that we can cover it in the

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 public hearing but I'll be interested to understand what requirements are in

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 place from a managing how trails would be handled in these riparian areas as

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 far as is it ice swim regulations you know how does that how are we covered

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 from a make sure that that we don't do something harmful essentially just

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 because from the text I don't I don't see where that's referenced and then the

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 second thing is I'll I'll be interested to understand how this applies to alt

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 ESA applications both in the case where the applicant applies for an alt ESA on

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 their land and then it stays their land is there an ability in the future if it

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 makes sense for a trail to go through that area as well as in the case where

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 they apply for an alt ESA but they also do a dedication of land to the parks

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 department for instance but the the piece of the parcel that gets dedicated

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 is still within the alt ESA area how does that work does that make sense so

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 from what I understand you're asking is if if someone is required to apply for

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 and seek an alternative ESA plan then and and the trail happens to be a part

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 of that how does that all come into play yes also if say for instance they apply

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 for an alt ESA but then five years later the parks department decides to try to

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 bring a trail through that corridor what's what's the process for how we

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 handle that if that makes sense okay yeah those are great questions okay yeah

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 one of late clarification was brought to my attention just a moment ago that item

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 for C is going to be is being withdrawn by the applicant so we will be I'll

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 announce at the public hearing but we won't need an extension request granted

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 on that okay with nothing else to clarify on our agenda I will call our

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 work session closed at 512 we'll meet back here at 630 for the public meeting

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 thank you good evening and welcome to the city of Denton's planning and zoning

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 Commission meeting for Wednesday March 9th 2022 with a quorum present I will

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 call us to order at 630 p.m. before we get into our agenda I'm gonna turn the

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 mic over to Haley real quick good evening we just wanted to officially

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 welcome our newest planner Mia Hinds to the team she's in the back row joining

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 us from the city of Glen Heights and she is our newest associate planner so

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 welcome her to the evening welcome Mia okay our first item on the agenda is the

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 Pledge of Allegiance to the US and Texas Flags

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 and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with

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 liberty and justice for all

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 thank you our next item on the agenda is the approval of the minutes for January

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 26th and February 9th meetings chair can entertain a motion or any questions on

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 that Commissioner Smith make a motion approve Commissioner Villarreal second

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 okay we've got a first and a second for approval is there any discussion okay we

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 will have to do a vote via roll call Commissioner Pruitt all right

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 Commissioner Smith all right Commissioner McDade all right Commissioner

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 Cole Commissioner Villarreal all right Commissioner Anderson all right and the

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 chairs and I that motion carries seven zero that will move us to our consent

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 agenda Commissioner Smith make a motion to approve we have a motion to approve

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 the consent agenda Commissioner Cole second we've got a first and a second to

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 approve the consent agenda is there any question or discussion okay let's take a

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 vote via roll call Commissioner Pruitt I Commissioner Smith I Commissioner

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 Anderson I shares also an I that motion carries seven zero that takes us to our

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 items for individual consideration and just for clarification 4c has been

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 withdrawn by the applicant so we will not be taking action on 4c so I will

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 call up for a FP 2100 for 1a and invite Shawn Jacobson up hello Shawn hello I am

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 opening this for Haley very good thank you Shawn I believe it's slide three

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 Shawn okay yes so good evening this is the Primoros edition final plat y'all

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 may recognize this property as it's recently been rezoned to allow for a

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 corporate headquarters to be relocated here subject properties just north of

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 Barthold on I 35 and as of yesterday staff is able to recommend approval of

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 this plat as the associated engineering plans have now been approved I'm happy

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 to answer any questions excellent thank you Haley and Shawn any questions for

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 staff okay seeing none Commissioner Smith make a motion to approve we've got

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 a first Commissioner Anderson second we've got a first and a second for

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 approval of this item any discussion okay let's take a vote via roll call

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 I that motion carries seven zero taking us to 4b FP 220007 and Shawn I believe

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 you will be presenting this item yes ma'am thank you good evening chair and

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 members of the Commission let me just pull up the plots again

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 all right so tonight I'm presenting FP 220007 this is the perch

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 Denton edition and staff is recommending denial this request is it does not meet

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 the criteria for approval as outlined however staff has no objection to the

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 request extension which could be granted to March 23rd 2022 I do not see any

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 prove the extension of date certain of March 23rd 2022 okay we've got a first

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 to approve the extension request Commissioner Villarreal second we've got

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 a first and a second to approve that extension request any discussion seeing

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 one let's vote Commissioner Pruitt I Commissioner Smith I Commissioner McDade

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 chair is an I so that motion carries the seven zero as I stated earlier 4c has

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 been withdrawn we will move to 4d FP 2020 I'm sorry FP 220006 hi Karina

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 good to see you in person it's nice to see you all right all right this is a

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 final plaque for the pebble brook Parkside edition this is located on the

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 east side of loop 288 just south of East McKinney Street staff is recommending

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 denial as there's still a couple of items they still need to address so it

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 does not meet the criteria for approval however the applicant has requested an

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 extension to March 23rd and staff has no objection to this request thank you

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 any questions I don't see any thank you Karina Commissioner Pruitt move to

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 approve the extension to a date certain emerged 23rd Commissioner Smith second

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 we've got a first and a second for approval of the extension request any

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 discussion seeing none let's evoke Commissioner Pruitt I Commissioner Smith

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 Anderson chair is also an I that motion carries seven zero for EPP 220001 and

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 that would be Julie Wyatt's presentation hi Julie good evening

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 all right this is PP 21 - 0001 a it is for a preliminary plat for a horizontal

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 multifamily use that you might remember that went forward it's been in the last

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 year and was approved they did they were able to work through all of the issues

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 related to it so staff does recommend approval and I'll be happy to answer any

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 questions thanks Julie any questions for Julie I don't see any Julie thank you

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 Commissioner Villarreal I move to approve the plan Commissioner Anderson a

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 second the motion we've got a first and a second for approval any discussion

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 FPP 220004 is also Julie's okay this is a preliminary plat for the vintage ranch

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 process recently they do have some comments they need to address so staff

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 does recommend denial however we have no objection to their requested extension

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 to the March 23rd meeting and I'll be happy to answer any questions thanks

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 approve the extension of date certain March 23rd 2022 okay we've got a first

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 for the extension request approval Commissioner Pruitt a second got a first

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 and a second to approve the extension request to a date certain March 23rd any

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 to 4g PP 21 0020 be Julie okay this one is for a preliminary plot within the

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 the the agenda when the agenda posted staff did recommend denial they they

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 have we are able to recommend approval excellent thank you Julie any questions

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 all the remaining comments and so staff recommends approval of this preliminary

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 plot great thank you Julie any questions for Julie do not see any Commissioner

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 the planning director so it's my pleasure to introduce this agenda item to

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 you and it's probably my entire team's pleasure to be able to introduce this

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 item to you before you this evening is consideration of the comprehensive plan

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 update the Denton 2040 comprehensive plan as you know we've been working very

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 diligently on getting this document to you and in this format in order for you

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 to take consideration and action of it I'm happy to have here with me Ed and of

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 let him introduce himself as well but but nonetheless this has been a

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 with all of your feedback and effort we've had quite a bit of discussion as

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 it relates to this document so it's our pleasure to present it to you I'm gonna

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 invite Ed up here to walk you through the the presentation here as we move

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 to receiving the planning and zoning Commission's recommendation this evening

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 staff respectfully requests that the Commission recommend approval of the

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 proposed Denton 2040 comprehensive plan thank you hi Ed hello hi chair members

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 of the Commission my name is Ed Boyk I'm with matrix design group and so it's

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 updates done for a very important plan for the community and so we're gonna run

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 through a couple different slides describing the characteristics of the

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 plan some of the process we took to get there and then also to reaffirms the

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 feedback that we heard from the planning and zoning Commission and City

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 Council and affirm that that is incorporated and has been addressed as

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 part of this comprehensive plan update so the 2040 plan is an is an update to

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 the 2030 plan and it reflects those current conditions in this in the

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 community as well as the anticipated conditions into the future so that would

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 be things like the changes in growth rate the new housing the new employment

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 that might be coming along and with that there's new challenges and they need to

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 be addressed and so this plan addresses those new challenges and also identifies

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 those opportunities that could be pursued by the community moving forward

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 importantly it confirms the community vision it verified that the vision that

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 was present when the 2030 plan was adopted is still present it's still

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 accurate it's still representative of Denton's future moving forward and to

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 that it confirmed the key goals and policies and actions other policies and

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 actions were examined as well and I'll talk about that another slide to be

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 refined and updated and new ones were established as well to move to implement

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 on those new opportunities and address those challenges and lastly the plan is

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 updated to incorporate references to the plans that are currently under

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 consideration or have been recently adopted such as the economic development

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 strategic plan the mobility plan update parks and rec transportation plan sorry

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 parks and recreation master plan and several other plans that are in the works

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 in the near term so the approach this plans approach was to do an update not a

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 rewrite so a large percentage of this plan was intended to be still valid it

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 remained valid was verified to be valid and then it was updated accordingly to

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 reflect the current day and the new future envisioned by Denton it's

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 building upon accomplishments the 2030 plan was a good plan it was able to be

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 implemented there have been some successes such as the downtown develop

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 the Denton Development Code and this is going to build upon that it's created

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 new strategies and new implementation tasks to build upon that that

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 implementation the action items has been refined it's been reviewed thoroughly

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 by city staff by the consultants by community and then made sure to be

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 representative of the projects that could be accomplished into through the

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 year 2040 along with that was a policy and goal analysis that was move forward

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 on updated the key points as I mentioned before such as the key policies and

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 actions new actions were established new policies and this is again carrying

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 that vision forward and some things that were put into place to help create some

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 more connective tissue between the different you know opportunities that

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 are identified in a plan the the land use plan is connected and represented in

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 the in the comp plan with the preferred land preservation plan which illustrates

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 those areas that could be or are environmentally sensitive or areas that

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 could be preserved for community benefit wildlife benefit native spaces

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 recreation as well as the preferred growth concept map which was reviewed by

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 the community and determined to still be applicable it's been updated a little

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 bit there's some enhancements to it to identify those areas of more intense

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 development but all these plans are in concert with each other they all support

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 each other so the public engagement was extensive and I'm not I don't know if I

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 go through every bullet point on this slide but the important thing is is

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 that we did have stakeholder interviews early on last year there was a website

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 that was available materials all the time for the community they could fill

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 out comments questionnaires on the website as well as participate in some

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 other tools that were available on it there was three virtual public open

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 houses we had an in-person one that was also had a companion 3d virtual

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 environment open house that was open for two weeks and last at late last year I

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 think in the fall of last year where the community could continue to provide

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 comment if they felt uncomfortable being in an in-person event or didn't have the

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 opportunity to make it to the in-person event there's been numerous presentations

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 to boards committees and commissions by myself and Ron and the other people on

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 staff at the city and we had a series of workshops which and work sessions that

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 Tina had just referred to that was really brought it all together and

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 ensured that this plan was something that reflected not only the community's

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 wants and needs but the decision-makers wants and needs and also to support

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 staff in their decision-making so we are really great comments for being an

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 update through this plan this community is incredibly engaged very really cares

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 about the community and it was reflected in the comments we received several I

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 mean well over a thousand fifteen hundred comments received through all

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 the different mechanisms and media that we had almost two thousand actually

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 between the questionnaires and vision statements and everything else and some

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 of those in an interactive or online tools are represented on the bottom of

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 the slide as well we had that ID places which was an interactive mapping

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 exercise that gave us a lot of spatial comments which were very valuable to

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 formulating and proving up those actions policies goals and implementation tasks

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 as well as the virtual open house I had just spoke to in the slide previous so so

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 these two slides there's three two slides that really are identifying those key

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 discussion changes and these are items that were identified by both the

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 planning planning and zoning Commission and City Council is being something we

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 should consider make sure it's addressed properly or addressed clearly in the

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 plan as we move forward so this is just representing that all of those different

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 statements whether it was for the vision statement how we handle the ETJ with

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 land use policy how do we handle the future land use plan area plans infill

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 etc all of those have been represented in this plan and it's been addressed not

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 only in policies and actions and goals but also in through the implementation

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 tasks items like the wildlife quarters specifically where become became an

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 action item in the implementation table protecting green spaces was important

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 for that as well connectivity things that could be implemented in the near

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 term because those plans and the more refined planning such as through the

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 parks plan has taken place so this plan is really an umbrella that supports all

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 that activity and guides all the functions of implementation forward

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 finally there was a comment about making sure that this plan continued to be

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 implementable and relevant moving forward into the future and there is a

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 portion of the plan through the implementation and actions that indicates

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 the city will actively monitor and evaluate this plan first performance and

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 then establish metrics for that so that you can make sure that the plans doing

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 what it needs to do and is if it's not then you have some more direction and

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 information to help you move forward into the future but with all the

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 outreach and all the review and all the technical expertise has gone into this

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 plan I'm sure this is going to be a great plan for dent moving far into the

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 future there's 271 action items so you got a little bit of work to do in front

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 of you but I believe in you guys this is a great plan in a great community so

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 what that might turn it back over to Tina and she's going to go through the

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 next steps so this slide should look very familiar to the Commission as it

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 illustrates all the progress that we've made on it since the beginning of January

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 of this year and so this evening we do need to conduct a public hearing as it

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 relates to the proposed plan and receive your recommendation then we will move

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 forward with the proposed plan to the March 22nd City Council meeting

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 obviously as you are well aware we were hoping to get a recommendation from you

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 back on February 23rd and get this to council on March 1st but Mother Nature

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 had some other ideas for us despite our best efforts so but following following

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 the council's consideration of presuming that we get approval on March 22nd we do

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 have slated for the Commission for March 23rd a discussion on area plans and I

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 know we've had lots of discussion about this is where we want to be in starting

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 taking that next step and working on the implementation and have a discussion

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 about prioritizing different areas within the community as it relates to

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 that but hopefully we'll have that discussion on March 23rd and good it

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 shows up on your slides will cover it over here but and then we will have that

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 similar discussion with City Council on April 5th and be able to share with

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 council the Commission's proposed recommendations of where we spend our

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 areas on area plans so with that I'd actually like to invite Ron Mingida up

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 here to present this slide so he this is his prize for him so I'd just like to

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 take a moment Ron has been tremendous throughout this whole effort and if it

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 wasn't for Ron's leadership and guidance we would not be here where we are today

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 this man has invested so much of his time as well as others on our team but I

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 think they would all say that Ron has been the true champion and the spirit

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 behind this plan and getting this updated so to me it's only befitting

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 that Ron present this last slide. Thank You Tina. Ron Mingida principal planner with

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 Development Services. I was not expecting that but I'm gonna go ahead and ask the

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 Commission for your recommendation and staffs recommending hopefully approval

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 of this item which is obviously hard done 20/40 comprehensive plan appreciate it.

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 Thank you Ron and I agree with Tina you are quite an asset to your team in this

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 city so thank you for all your efforts in this. Thank you. That concludes our

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 presentation. So with that we recommend that you open the public hearing but

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 we're also happy to take any questions or comments that you have so thank you.

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 Thank you everyone. Do we have questions? Commissioner Smith? We're asking

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 questions. Sorry Tina quick question so of the 271 action items that you guys

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 have out there one question we haven't asked her in all the different work

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 sessions and conversations we've had about this is is what is what city

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 staffs direction on prioritizing those action items obviously I know from some

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 pressure if some people on the Commission trying to get small area

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 plans in I won't name what jerk try to get that going forward as fast as

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 possible but the on those other 271 action items how are you guys

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 prioritizing how you guys delegating do you have something on the back end you

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 can share with us a little bit after we do this you don't want to just obviously

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 go through and prove something but we want to make sure that we do that that

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 there's some sort of workflow on the back end you guys give us an insight on

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 that. Yes so in I wish I had the the previous slide from a discussion we had

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 a couple of weeks ago but moving forward our focus and efforts truly on the area

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 plans we've also talked about infill development and what that looks like for

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 the community and and how we move forward with evaluating any of our codes

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 and and if there's any special refinements that need to be made to any

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 policies that relates to those areas as well but we really see our focus on also

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 with Council's direction you know concern regarding our land preservation

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 and moving forth with evaluating any codes that we might need to be modified

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 to be consistent with the plan update process as well but the other thing I

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 will add is included within I believe it's chapter 10 or element 10 of the

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 Conference of Plan obviously is the consolidated version of all 271 action

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 items and it also has a level of prioritization associated with that

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 whether that is a short term item midterm long term or continuous so we

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 would also consult that also on a regular basis on the short-term action

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 items to determine where we really need to invest our time and efforts and that

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 could be some additional conversations with the Planning and Zoning Commission

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 as well as council as we work on prioritizing those efforts but I go back

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 to really it's the area plans it's working on the infill development in and

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 what that looks like and then also whether or not we need to make any

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 modifications to code but then also concerns amongst council about

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 preservation of land and making sure that we have appropriate policies in

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 place that be able to balance that with also the development and growth that's

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 happening within the community well and yes and I think I mentioned that

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 previously but we'll have the area plans discussion on on April 5th and start

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 that getting that direction from council I'll probably just whenever we get to

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 matrix tonight I'll probably just include maybe possibly that we have a

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 standing item on the on our P&Z matrix to be able to just talk about where you

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 guys are towards those we don't need a super in-depth detail but just to make

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 sure there's been times in the past where we've seen actions created

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 leadership and people are involved or lost in communication within there and

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 things aren't followed up on so maybe just putting on our matrix to say hey

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 we're working through the items here and it might take a year or two before us to

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 get that off the off the matrix but I think it probably good just to have a

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 check and balance and conversation about it absolutely so thanks thanks for your

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 hard work any other question okay thank you madam chair if you could go back to

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 the public engagement it's not wanting to move oh wait there it goes this

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 particular slide hey I don't know the the the graphic next one yeah I'm

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 looking all together you only had 1972 comments and my question is how does the

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 city does the city actually go out to the people or you want the people to

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 actually come to the city to find out what's going on because I mean do you go

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 to this is does the city hold meetings with area areas of town to let them know

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 what's going on I mean how do you really get the information out about the 2040

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 plan so in this case when we worked on this project we said we used a variety

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 of different resources available to us we used a means of a communication means

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 that the city has a certain publishing information inviting people to be part

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 of the effort and providing the feedback we actually hosted some public meetings

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 and did the open house I know I was here at least for the open house that we did

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 in September where we invited the public to come and be part of the process with

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 us but but also still working through the pandemic hence why we we did but

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 really a social media push if you will and working with our public affairs team

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 on getting the word out as it related to us getting feedback on this you know

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 moving forward as we you know if we're successful and being able to kick off

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 and working on area plans as we work on those I would anticipate a much more

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 targeted approach with respect to getting public feedback in the past when

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 I've worked on projects of that nature we send invitations out to folks we you

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 know we use the good old u.s. postal service and sending information out

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 there we rely upon social media as well we use whatever other channels whether

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 it's advertising on our social media or excuse me on our website pages in

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 addition to social media but we take a much more targeted approach because

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 we're really interested in getting that public feedback and engagement and I see

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 you stand it off to my right so yeah and I'll just add the stress of the

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 pandemic really pushed and changed the direction that we had to take this

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 ultimately the original plan when we contracted with matrix was to to truly

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 go to each part of the community so we were going to use schools community

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 centers churches and and we were gonna go right to the areas as seen indicated

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 we'll do that with the area plans so it'll be a much more targeted focus

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 it'll be much more beneficial I think but overall for the process that we did

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 here we used every available means to get all the input we could I wasn't I'm

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 still not I wasn't a big fan of it and I hate to say it but I'm still not but I

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 will hold off until the exit you are finished with meeting meeting with the

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 neighborhoods I don't know if we if we if they approve it now I mean will that

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 change are you still going to get with the neighborhoods to get there I get

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 their input and well that's and that's an important part of what this will do

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 and some of the steps that that really those implementation practices that will

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 be implemented as we walk through this is those area plans as we see what's

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 going to occur with those area plans get that guidance we have a process built

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 into the development code so we can come back and amend the comprehensive plan

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 and or the ability plan as we as we see fit so that would come before this body

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 and City Council so absolutely you'll be engaged in the process already thank you

444
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:57,480
 any other questions we'll wait for the screen to pop up to see if anybody on

445
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,480
 the zoom well that's happening Tina I have a question with regarding to the

446
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:07,200
 monitoring of that is there a timeline created for that is is it going to be

447
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:13,160
 looked at on a six month basis on a yearly basis has that even been discussed

448
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:18,200
 out so what we anticipate right now what we currently have in the plan in it was

449
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,000
 sure screen here

450
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:33,280
 so we have this principle five that's included in the plan and this really

451
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,480
 spoke to the metrics and the monitoring associated with our efforts as we move

452
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:41,440
 forward on implementation so right now the plan recommends actually I think it

453
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:47,480
 was annually that that we evaluate what progress we've made one of the

454
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,400
 challenges that we have with the metrics aspect is we need to know what we're

455
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,960
 measuring right so we can do annual updates to the planning and zoning

456
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,560
 Commission and council to let you all know what progress we've made on the

457
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,360
 implementation but if we're looking to measure let's say we're looking to

458
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,360
 measure a specific area of town and so we need to make sure we put whatever

459
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,920
 appropriate metrics are in place related to the action item and what we're trying

460
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,640
 to measure for that so some of that might take a little bit longer but our

461
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,440
 goal is to at least give you annual updates so you know where we stand yeah

462
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:20,600
 I think that's great okay excellent here comes Scott just to add one more piece

463
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:25,280
 to it so you don't feel that mr. mengita is left out ultimately for the last

464
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,400
 whatever it is four years five years has been working on the development code and

465
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:34,160
 the update to the comp plan with those successfully completed he won't be doing

466
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:39,040
 the work on all of the area plans will be dispersing that work his task will be

467
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,280
 really the implementation so managing monitoring and as we come forward and

468
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:48,840
 again we can do it and you know at the end of the meetings great thank you maybe

469
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:57,880
 thank you any other questions for staff okay I do not see any at this time this

470
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,640
 is a public hearing I don't have any cards is there anyone here wishing to

471
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:09,680
 speak at this public hearing staff do we have anyone on the phones to speak on

472
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:18,320
 this item no we don't have anyone on phone okay thank you all right I am in

473
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:24,600
 that case going to head go ahead and close the public hearing and open the

474
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,720
 floor for discussion or motion Commissioner Pruitt thank you chair I'd

475
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:35,960
 like to move recommendation of adoption of the 2040 plan commissioner Smith

476
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:41,920
 second got a first and a second for approval of the comprehensive plan

477
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:46,000
 update as presented any discussion

478
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:54,440
 commissioner Pruitt thank you chair I'll just offer three three things one in my

479
00:42:54,440 --> 00:43:00,360
 view staff has been amazingly responsive to all of the questions all of the

480
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,340
 public feedback all the discussions and work sessions that we've had and I've

481
00:43:04,340 --> 00:43:10,640
 really appreciated that secondly I guess I'm I'm really looking forward to some

482
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:16,000
 of those near-term actions that I think have been well identified right one of

483
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,960
 them being sort of the focus on connectivity and how that relates to the

484
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:25,880
 mobility plan that we're about to discuss as well as sort of the metrics

485
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:30,320
 of monitoring that we've we've talked about earlier tonight so thank you for

486
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:39,080
 for all those things yeah and I will just add a big thank you again for all

487
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,320
 the work in this and I do think the collaboration was great I know it was

488
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:47,480
 challenging with the pandemic but I do think that we've got really really good

489
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,120
 public feedback and comments and it helped to to shape this and and we've

490
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,960
 had great meetings and discussion and collaboration between us and other focus

491
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:02,840
 groups and obviously City Council so thank you for all of that any other

492
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:08,680
 discussion let's go ahead and vote then Commissioner Pruitt aye Commissioner

493
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,640
 Smith aye Commissioner McDade aye Commissioner Cole aye Commissioner Villarreal

494
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:21,280
 aye Commissioner Anderson aye and the chair is an aye that motion carries seven

495
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:29,720
 zero that will move us to our next public hearing item which is 5 C PZ 22

496
00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:40,760
 0 0 3 I will open the public hearing and call Becky up for presentation

497
00:44:51,280 --> 00:45:05,840
 hi hello how are y'all today Becky Divini city engineer director of capital

498
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,160
 projects thank you so much for allowing me to be here today to talk to you about

499
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:19,120
 the 2022 mobility plan adoption first off I want to remind everyone that I

500
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:24,440
 feel like the team has taken an effort with obviously Nathan George our senior

501
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,560
 planner bicycle ADA pedestrian coordinator to make sure that this plan

502
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:33,600
 was a multimodal plan I think that this is the first time that I've seen and

503
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,660
 I've been with the city for a number of years back and forth that I've seen that

504
00:45:37,660 --> 00:45:43,120
 we've actually taken that full effort to incorporate those much-needed modes of

505
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,320
 transportation not only just the thoroughfare plan which we seem to

506
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:51,280
 always concentrate on but that bicycle and pedestrian and I have a lot of

507
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,600
 kudos to give to many of you and others in the council who are the ones who have

508
00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:00,860
 really asked for us to include these things and made sure that that actually

509
00:46:00,860 --> 00:46:06,360
 happened this year so just reminder and next thing I wanted to talk about a

510
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:11,640
 little bit is the community input I will tell you from July of 2019 through

511
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:18,840
 September of 2020 even into December of 2019 to March 2020 I was not with the

512
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,200
 department but I know that these were the in-person public meetings and City

513
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,880
 Council work sessions that were held after that time I was in the department

514
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,580
 in September of 2020 when I moved over from the utility department of which we

515
00:46:32,580 --> 00:46:39,040
 held those five virtual public meetings similar to like Tina and Ron and Scott

516
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,520
 went through the pandemic did change the way we made those presentations but

517
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:48,160
 those five virtual public meetings were on the different areas northern western

518
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:54,400
 downtown eastern and also the southern I will mention that during that 2019

519
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,880
 timeframe I do understand there was a bicycle pedestrian focus group meeting

520
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,760
 that was an in-person meeting in September of 2019 so I feel like we've

521
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,360
 taken that time to really listen and go through that process to get as much

522
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:13,720
 community input as we can through those virtual and in-person meetings we also

523
00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:18,000
 held surveys that were work through our process you've probably seen this data

524
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:23,440
 before and we received 384 responses during that first phase and then during

525
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:29,040
 that second phase we received additional 287 responses you've all seen the map

526
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,560
 that is on the right that shows the little yellow flag that you can point to

527
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:37,600
 where we got that actual comment obviously we looked at specific areas

528
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,800
 where there were multiple comments and some of those are the focus areas that

529
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,920
 you yourselves also had similar questions and concerns and so did the

530
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,960
 council so that was giving us that ability to understand where everyone

531
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:55,480
 really wanted to focus their efforts including additional community input

532
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,480
 obviously we did have that open house I heard that I mentioned just a few

533
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:04,360
 minutes ago and we did work with a comprehensive plan and that parks and

534
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,920
 trails master plan to keep those comments open and obviously even though

535
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:13,360
 those comment periods may have ended or started you know we still continuously

536
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,680
 received comment you can see the number of planning and zoning presentations and

537
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:22,840
 City Council presentations that have been made similar to Tina obviously we

538
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,920
 all were sad that we weren't able to present to you the night of the the

539
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:32,520
 crazy weather but it's Texas and so that's just what happens but we're happy

540
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:37,960
 to be here today and talk about the mobility plan I just wanted to remind

541
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,120
 you all of really kind of those common themes that we heard throughout the the

542
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,400
 overall plan I'm in the comments that we received that multimodal approach of

543
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,480
 course that's what I started with that complete streets bicycle pedestrian and

544
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,440
 obviously the thoroughfare plan really working to accommodate those bicycle and

545
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,080
 pedestrian safety and access points we addressed many things many of the

546
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,400
 comments were received you'll be surprised where maintenance and

547
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,200
 operation items that really could be handled through our streets department

548
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,120
 and so we took the time to send that message out to them whether it be

549
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,760
 signage that needed to be done or sometimes it was striping that needed to

550
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:17,360
 be improved or replaced so that was a great opportunity to receive some of

551
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,240
 those comments although it came through the mobility plan I was happy to share

552
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:25,040
 that that future consideration for development you know one of the things

553
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:29,120
 that was a comment we received just to make sure that we were focusing in on

554
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,600
 the land use map and that's where we worked very strongly with obviously the

555
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:38,240
 planning department coordinating with those future text dot roads you'll know

556
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:42,280
 right up until the bitter end we were changing roadways that were text dot

557
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,560
 roadways on the mobility plan based on what text dot was doing I do feel like

558
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,200
 we have an excellent relationship with text dot and have a great opportunity to

559
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,400
 work together so we've taken that opportunity to share those the goal of

560
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,200
 the city is to have the same thoroughfare plan shown that the county

561
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:02,740
 shows and also text dot shows so upon adoption of the document we will be

562
00:50:02,740 --> 00:50:08,360
 sharing that with the county and with text dot we did confirm and look at the

563
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,700
 appropriate roadway classifications between arterial collector vice versa

564
00:50:12,700 --> 00:50:18,160
 and then of course that consistency we we call it and you'll hear me say it

565
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:22,440
 again that holistic approach to make sure that we have that you know parks

566
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,120
 component with Gary in the back the parks Charles master plan and then of

567
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:31,560
 course that didn't plan 2040 looking at sustainability plan any plan that we

568
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,680
 needed to evaluate but really working consistently with the two plans you see

569
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:42,400
 on the screen today to summarize I really wanted to make sure that everyone

570
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,720
 understand the real key focus of the mobility plan was one that multimodal

571
00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:52,120
 approach to that context sensitive design really looking at although we may

572
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:57,560
 ask for it to be an arterial with 110 feet of right away there are ways and we

573
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,880
 showed you this in the previous presentation where certain designs can

574
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,560
 be made for the existing conditions today giving us that opportunity to to

575
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,560
 widen or expand that road or actually come to the inside which is another way

576
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,880
 that you can do redway improvements but looking at what's happening in that area

577
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:19,280
 and making sure that you're obviously being responsive to the to the

578
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:24,080
 surrounding areas and then of course you know the number one thing we heard was

579
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,920
 safety safety first really that vision zero plan and so that was goal number

580
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,360
 seven that we moved to goal number one although they weren't in a hierarchy

581
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:37,060
 order and we did go ahead and put that first and changed out a little bit to

582
00:51:37,060 --> 00:51:40,680
 have that language I think you probably remember me mentioning that we made that

583
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:46,320
 very much more proactive than reactive language so we have made those updates

584
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,160
 and what I would like to do tonight with a smile on my face because there's been

585
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,160
 a lot of hard work behind the scenes between Nathan George that you see in

586
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:59,040
 the back pre Tim Dishman is also in the the audience today and that of course

587
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,440
 our planning team we really worked strongly on this together I think that's

588
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,720
 one of the things I'm most proud of is the collaboration between the different

589
00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:08,920
 departments we sit right across from each other we do totally different

590
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,920
 things sometimes on a day-to-day basis but we took the time and the effort to

591
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,280
 work together in a collaborative nature to make sure that we were being

592
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,080
 sensitive to each other's needs and listening to those lane use assumptions

593
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,120
 that were so important to the city of Denton so I would like to ask and

594
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:30,840
 recommend approval of the Denton 2022 mobility plan as presented and for

595
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:36,640
 recommendation to send to City Council on March 22nd and of course we will stand

596
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:44,200
 for comments thank you any questions Commissioner Perrett thank you chair

597
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:51,880
 just one do we know yet what our proposed scheduling of the next update

598
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:58,120
 of the transportation criteria manual will be absolutely so the transportation

599
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,520
 criteria manual is something we're going to be updating annually and last year

600
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,160
 during that date I know yourself and several others had several comments

601
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:11,200
 that were very specific to safety concerns and speeding concerns and what

602
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:16,600
 staff had chosen to do at the time is wait for that city-wide speed study

603
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:22,640
 that's a mouthful and also wait till we get the vision zero action plan really

604
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,440
 kicked off and then of course you know we have that signal re-timing project

605
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,760
 there are several different things that we have that we're working through but

606
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:35,560
 that is something that we do annually we typically start mid to late summer and

607
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:40,040
 coordinate because at this point we've made sure the criteria manual the

608
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:44,640
 specifications and the standard details are all in concert we've also now made

609
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,600
 sure that the mobility plan is in concert also but take it to the next step

610
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,000
 with incorporating many of the comments we received from that safety perspective

611
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:57,360
 so our anticipation is to bring that back this year at more than likely the

612
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:02,880
 last council meeting of the year okay thank you I think that to me that

613
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:08,240
 transportation criteria manual is really sort of the manifestation and the main

614
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:12,520
 implementation of this plan when the rubber hits the road so to speak so I'm

615
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,580
 looking forward to that thank you absolutely and I will tell you

616
00:54:15,580 --> 00:54:18,320
 Commissioner Prout we would like to spend some time with you to go through

617
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,360
 your comments and review the criteria manual I know you have quite a few that

618
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:28,360
 we want to take into consideration and make sure we understand so beef be ready

619
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:33,240
 for us to reach out to you and spend some quality time with you sir thanks

620
00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:43,400
 Becky Commissioner Anderson thank you chair I do have a couple questions is the

621
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:48,520
 city going to take away the road lane space for bike paths I'm still kind of

622
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:54,200
 confused on some of that stuff or are they going to build bike paths along the

623
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:59,800
 side of the roads it depends specifically upon the actual roadway

624
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,440
 classification that we're going to be looking at and then what that standard

625
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:09,160
 detail is we're going to use the right away that we anticipate to acquire in

626
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:13,960
 those different roadway classifications and evaluate that I can have Nathan come

627
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:18,840
 and specifically answer your question in a little bit more detail but I will tell

628
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,040
 you that he's going to give you a very generic answer because it's going to be

629
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:27,680
 dependent upon really the entire design of that specific area and what the

630
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:33,520
 right-of-way width is okay who's the person I mean is the citizens coming

631
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,400
 forward saying they want bike paths because you've made you know one of your

632
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:44,080
 slides said 384 people commented between July 18th or 2019 to October 11th 2019

633
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:50,160
 and 287 people commented between March 1st of 2020 and October 30th of 2020

634
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:56,080
 well if that's the people that are wanting this I'm not sure what those

635
00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:01,000
 comments were about but that's only a point zero zero two nine and a point zero

636
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:06,600
 zero two two percent that want bike paths that's going to take up traffic

637
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,920
 lanes and I'm not really I'm not saying bike paths should be there I'm just

638
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:15,640
 saying I know some business owners that have that are a long bike paths that are

639
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:21,440
 already existing and they say they see more confusion on drivers and less bikes

640
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:26,160
 they've seen maybe two or three bike or bike riders a year but they see more

641
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:31,120
 confusions from traffic I mean from traffic issues so that's I'm not a big

642
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,840
 big fan of all these bike lanes trying to take up bike lanes for people that

643
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:39,560
 we don't see a lot of bike riders I'm just being honest I don't see I mean I

644
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:44,040
 drive through town all the time I mean I lived here close to downtown and I'm

645
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,400
 driving around all the time I hardly ever see bike riders but we're pushing

646
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:53,440
 for all these bike lanes sure and I'll let Nathan describe that I do understand

647
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,000
 what you're saying sir and I would tell you that a lot of that depends on the

648
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,600
 actual design the actual location and I would tell you that some of the bike

649
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,400
 lanes that we have existing on the ground today will not follow the same

650
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,920
 pattern of which we're looking to move forward with so I'm gonna step aside and

651
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:16,000
 let Nathan describe that in greater detail for you Nathan George with capital

652
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:22,120
 projects engineering division missionary Anderson I'll I guess provide more of a

653
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:26,200
 high-level response to your question because I want to make sure it's clear

654
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,760
 the mobility plan and the bike element of the mobility plan and specific our

655
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:35,860
 focus is to provide safe and comfortable places for people to ride their bike the

656
00:57:35,860 --> 00:57:40,160
 so you know you're asking questions about some specific facility types and

657
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:44,320
 that's not really the intent of the plan the idea is that we're showing how these

658
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:48,240
 facilities will be connected what you know in general what facility types would

659
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,920
 be providing so that might be it might be a bike lane it might be a bike path

660
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,920
 that really depends on the nature of a project when we get to that stage when

661
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,800
 we're ready to start design but the goal of this plan is really to show how that

662
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,400
 network would be built out to show where those low stress connections the

663
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:09,840
 priority connections would be occurring which is you know primarily along along

664
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,760
 our major streets that are most connected within the community as our

665
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,760
 thoroughfare streets primarily are going to form the backbone of this

666
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:22,480
 network the in terms of our people going to be riding in a bike lane in the

667
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:28,360
 street where it would directly impact vehicles the the big shift in this plan

668
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:33,360
 is that tech stop has adopted policy and we're following suit that we're going to

669
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,640
 accommodate folks outside the roadway when we can when that's the safest

670
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:42,000
 option possible there may be in road facilities that may be something that we

671
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,720
 do as an outcome of a specific project but in general that's not going to be

672
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:52,760
 our approach so there there really will be this this approach with our projects

673
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:57,600
 to separate users to provide you know more space for bicyclists outside the

674
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:02,080
 roadway that's the goal of the mobility plan update that we're presenting to you

675
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:07,840
 this evening it should not inhibit folks who are trying to travel by car or you

676
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,640
 know they shouldn't be interacting with bicyclists a lot and the goal is really

677
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:17,440
 to provide the safer and more connected and better quality of environment not

678
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,960
 just for bicyclists and pedestrians but also for cars because as we deliver

679
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:26,640
 these projects they're going to work better for everybody across the board no

680
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,880
 matter how you travel around the city I hope that answers your question if you

681
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:37,000
 have any follow-ups I'll be happy to stand for that well thank you for your

682
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:46,520
 answer but yeah I'll just leave it at that thank you thanks thanks any other

683
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,680
 questions for staff Commissioner Anderson I would like to add to that one of the

684
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:55,040
 things that I think Nathan wants to make sure that everyone understands is we

685
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:59,000
 still want to provide the same capacity and level of service within the roadway

686
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:03,800
 regardless of whether there's a bike lane in the roadway or not so just want

687
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:08,160
 to make sure you know that's also explained

688
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:16,760
 Commissioner Anderson did you have any follow-up to that or no are you are you

689
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,880
 finished okay okay yeah I think what we have to make clear which I think you've

690
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:25,480
 made clear is I mean the plan is a multimodal plan and so it's to be

691
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:29,720
 efficient on all levels of transportation on whether we're in a

692
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:35,520
 vehicle or on a bike or walking the plan is is to encompass all of that and one

693
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:41,040
 doesn't take away from the other it's all it's it's to make all of the modal

694
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:51,440
 modals efficient so I yes Commissioner Anderson I agree with that but I'm just

695
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:59,680
 my point is I don't want to waste taxpayers money and funds just for two

696
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,560
 bicyclists a year and we're gonna spend millions of dollars to make all these

697
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:08,800
 paths and lanes all this stuff for two bicyclists a year that you know these

698
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,560
 business owners see it just I'm looking out for the taxpayers money that's all I

699
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:23,280
 mean that's all okay thank you any other questions for self I don't see

700
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,880
 anything right now Becky thank you this is a public hearing I don't have any

701
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:34,120
 cards here but is there anyone who wishes to speak on this do we have anyone

702
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:43,040
 on the phones no no it's on the phone okay thank you all right with that I

703
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:47,320
 will go ahead and close the public hearing and open the floor for further

704
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:52,680
 discussion questions or a motion Commissioner Cole I move for approval

705
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:57,880
 okay we've got a first for recommendation of approval of the 2022

706
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:03,680
 mobility plan Commissioner Smith saying we've got a first and a second for the

707
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:12,480
 approval of the mobility plan as presented any discussion okay seeing

708
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:16,120
 none let's go ahead and vote Commissioner Pruitt I Commissioner

709
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:22,120
 Smith I Commissioner McDade I Commissioner Cole I Commissioner Villarreal

710
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:32,880
 I Commissioner Anderson I chair is also an I that motion carries 7-0 thank you

711
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:37,440
 and thank you Becky and Nathan and all of your team for your hard work on this

712
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:45,720
 absolutely our pleasure thank you our final public hearing is let's see 5d DCA

713
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:53,160
 22 0001 hold a public hearing consider recommendation to City Council regarding

714
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:57,240
 the adoption of an ordinance of the City of Denton to amend the Denton

715
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:03,580
 development code to provide for pathways and trails in section 7.4.7 a and

716
01:03:03,580 --> 01:03:09,880
 Christy Upton will give us presentation I will open the public hearing

717
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:45,600
 I forget where is it sorry where's the side chip okay sorry I always forget

718
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:55,520
 that okay sorry Christy Upton and I am with environmental services and today

719
01:03:55,520 --> 01:04:06,260
 I'll be you might have to put that more in front of you okay today I'll be

720
01:04:06,260 --> 01:04:16,500
 presenting a ordinance revision to permit for trails and environmentally

721
01:04:16,500 --> 01:04:23,420
 sensitive areas a little bit of background the City of Denton has has

722
01:04:23,420 --> 01:04:29,740
 had a particular set of code to protect and preserve environmentally sensitive

723
01:04:29,740 --> 01:04:35,460
 areas on the books since 2002 and 2018 there were some revisions that were

724
01:04:35,460 --> 01:04:42,940
 proposed to update that code and both the older version of the code and in the

725
01:04:42,940 --> 01:04:51,460
 updates the the trail construction remained the same where there is

726
01:04:51,460 --> 01:04:55,740
 allowances for trail construction in undeveloped flood plains but is

727
01:04:55,740 --> 01:05:00,740
 currently not permitted in repairing buffers and water related habitats nor

728
01:05:00,740 --> 01:05:04,140
 in Crest Timbers upland habitats

729
01:05:04,140 --> 01:05:18,300
 the parks and recreation trails and system master plan was recently updated

730
01:05:18,300 --> 01:05:24,460
 and that update was adopted and with that new plan there's a promotion of the

731
01:05:24,460 --> 01:05:29,620
 use of spaces and corridors to that are created by those environmentally sensitive

732
01:05:29,620 --> 01:05:38,500
 areas so with that concept of using those green spaces for for the trails we

733
01:05:38,500 --> 01:05:46,340
 identify that the current development code is and semi conflicting with with

734
01:05:46,340 --> 01:05:52,180
 that that overarching goal of using those green spaces so the city has

735
01:05:52,180 --> 01:05:57,380
 initiated a code amendment to allow for the trail construction we are trying to

736
01:05:57,380 --> 01:06:02,100
 limit that that trail construction under certain certain circumstances to kind of

737
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:09,620
 create some guidelines on the continue and by creating those guidelines

738
01:06:09,620 --> 01:06:14,940
 continuing to promote the protection and preservation and maximizing on that

739
01:06:14,940 --> 01:06:18,740
 protection and preservation of those environmentally sensitive areas and that

740
01:06:18,740 --> 01:06:25,220
 would be to restrict the construction of the trails that are within that will be

741
01:06:25,220 --> 01:06:31,760
 either owned and or operate owned and operated by the city or an agreement

742
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:39,940
 that the city will be operating those trails within that property the second

743
01:06:39,940 --> 01:06:44,700
 circumstance would be that those trails be constructed under standards that

744
01:06:44,700 --> 01:06:48,340
 promote the protection of those environmentally sensitive areas as they're

745
01:06:48,340 --> 01:06:56,700
 being constructed and this information was in your backup material and this is

746
01:06:56,700 --> 01:07:02,780
 the specific language that we would be asking to amend through sections to add

747
01:07:02,780 --> 01:07:08,540
 the language to permit the trail construction and staff recommends the

748
01:07:08,540 --> 01:07:14,180
 proposal of those code amendments and with that I will conclude my

749
01:07:14,180 --> 01:07:20,540
 presentation and answer any questions you may have thanks Christy for the

750
01:07:20,540 --> 01:07:30,700
 screen to come up questions for Christy mr. Perot thank you chair I guess when

751
01:07:30,700 --> 01:07:36,820
 when we talk about developing the trails in a way that preserves the ESA's is

752
01:07:36,820 --> 01:07:43,740
 there any what what standards do we look to to ensure that that's that there are

753
01:07:43,740 --> 01:07:47,420
 some some rigor behind that as opposed to an intention that may or may not be

754
01:07:47,420 --> 01:07:52,780
 followed depending on the the particular desires at the time sure and staff has

755
01:07:52,780 --> 01:07:58,900
 been thinking about this a lot and we will be the parks department parks and

756
01:07:58,900 --> 01:08:03,220
 Recreation Department has put together the parks and Recreation design and

757
01:08:03,220 --> 01:08:10,380
 construction manual and we are proposing to add some elements to that

758
01:08:10,380 --> 01:08:18,860
 construction manual that would identify you know some of those points you know of

759
01:08:18,860 --> 01:08:24,660
 concern that could cause for you know greater damage of the environmentally

760
01:08:24,660 --> 01:08:29,140
 sensitive areas obviously this is what we're trying to avoid right so

761
01:08:29,140 --> 01:08:33,980
 maximizing that preservation and protection so the parks department and

762
01:08:33,980 --> 01:08:37,980
 the environmental services and engineering services will all be

763
01:08:37,980 --> 01:08:45,940
 working together to come up with those standards to put in that plan okay thank

764
01:08:45,940 --> 01:08:52,380
 you and one more if I may I understand these two amendments govern the

765
01:08:52,380 --> 01:09:01,300
 allowable activities in ESA's under the the normal requirements of the DDC can

766
01:09:01,300 --> 01:09:06,420
 you explain a little bit about what the what the process and limitations would

767
01:09:06,420 --> 01:09:15,260
 be about trails in similar ESA's if an applicant applied for an alternative ESA

768
01:09:15,260 --> 01:09:21,780
 so by putting this code amendment into the code let me give you a scenario

769
01:09:21,780 --> 01:09:31,100
 there's a development who is proposing to dedicate parkland on a portion of the

770
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:36,820
 development and the part of that parkland dedication will include some

771
01:09:36,820 --> 01:09:41,700
 environmental sensitive areas and in order to maximize the use of that parkland

772
01:09:41,700 --> 01:09:49,480
 some trails will be constructed so in that that scenario the developer will

773
01:09:49,480 --> 01:09:56,180
 construct the trails then dedicate the parkland to the city so that that trail

774
01:09:56,180 --> 01:10:01,300
 will be constructed right in the case of an environmentally and alternative

775
01:10:01,300 --> 01:10:06,900
 environmentally sensitive area plan under the current code they would have had the

776
01:10:06,900 --> 01:10:12,940
 developer would have to come in and seek for an alternative plan in order to

777
01:10:12,940 --> 01:10:16,700
 construct that trail so what we're trying to do is we're trying to create

778
01:10:16,700 --> 01:10:23,500
 the path of to allow for these trail construction without having to seek that

779
01:10:23,500 --> 01:10:31,500
 specialized permission from the city and I think I think that addresses your

780
01:10:31,500 --> 01:10:35,420
 question are there other components to that question no I think that that helps

781
01:10:35,420 --> 01:10:42,220
 thank you I I think this is a very good move you know of trying to balance the

782
01:10:42,220 --> 01:10:51,540
 community's desires of preservation but to some extent the more that you can

783
01:10:51,540 --> 01:10:57,700
 make assets community assets available to the community and give them that

784
01:10:57,700 --> 01:11:03,780
 experience of enjoying it the more benefit we get from that and the more

785
01:11:03,780 --> 01:11:09,980
 you know cyclical building upon itself sort of appreciation of that

786
01:11:09,980 --> 01:11:16,140
 preservation that we're trying to do so I appreciate the the effort here and I

787
01:11:16,140 --> 01:11:21,660
 would just say you know as as this goes forward let's let's make sure that we

788
01:11:21,660 --> 01:11:28,500
 clearly communicate what you know how how this amendment is actually going to

789
01:11:28,500 --> 01:11:33,620
 put perhaps more focus on sort of the engineering design of these riparian

790
01:11:33,620 --> 01:11:38,300
 Issa's so that maybe they get even extra eyes on them then they just naturally

791
01:11:38,300 --> 01:11:42,700
 would if we weren't taking these steps to really be careful about those areas

792
01:11:42,700 --> 01:11:47,700
 and I think that's a good good move so thank you thanks Commissioner for it

793
01:11:47,700 --> 01:11:53,100
 well so any other questions discussion

794
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:59,500
 thanks Christine thank you this is a public hearing I don't have any cards is

795
01:11:59,500 --> 01:12:06,700
 there anyone wishing to speak on this item do we have anyone on the phone for

796
01:12:06,700 --> 01:12:15,260
 this item no we don't have anyone on phone thank you okay with that I will go

797
01:12:15,260 --> 01:12:19,340
 ahead and close the public hearing and open the floor for discussion or a

798
01:12:19,340 --> 01:12:25,980
 motion Commissioner Anderson make a motion to approve Commissioner Villarreal

799
01:12:25,980 --> 01:12:35,420
 second we've got a first and a second for approval any discussion seeing none

800
01:12:35,420 --> 01:12:40,460
 let's go ahead and vote Commissioner Pruitt Commissioner Smith Commissioner

801
01:12:40,460 --> 01:12:48,460
 McDade Commissioner Cole Commissioner Villarreal I Commissioner Anderson hi

802
01:12:48,460 --> 01:12:56,860
 chair is also an I that motion carries a 7-0 that will take us to our Planning and

803
01:12:56,860 --> 01:13:05,600
 Zoning Commission matrix and I will turn the floor over to Tina thank you

804
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:11,060
 chairman Ellis Tina Fergens planning director so the matrix just a couple of

805
01:13:11,060 --> 01:13:14,860
 quick items I had to think back to I updated this previously for our meeting

806
01:13:14,860 --> 01:13:18,600
 on the 23rd a couple areas where I made some additional refinements to the

807
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:23,500
 matrix just to add some time associated with it with respect to the fiscal

808
01:13:23,500 --> 01:13:26,460
 analysis tool and I believe Commissioner Pruitt I know you've been interested in

809
01:13:26,460 --> 01:13:30,300
 this particular item so we are anticipating bringing that back to the

810
01:13:30,300 --> 01:13:34,880
 Commission for discussion either in late March or early April as we work with the

811
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,660
 consultant on getting that prepared for for your consideration and then also

812
01:13:38,660 --> 01:13:42,460
 we've already talked earlier this evening about the area plans and so we'll be

813
01:13:42,460 --> 01:13:46,820
 bringing that back at your next meeting for discussion otherwise everything else

814
01:13:46,820 --> 01:13:50,740
 on the matrix pretty much remains the same in terms of projects that council

815
01:13:50,740 --> 01:13:55,980
 took action on in since your last meeting the only zoning case that we've

816
01:13:55,980 --> 01:14:01,180
 had in which council considered was the Kingsway proposed PD amendment council

817
01:14:01,180 --> 01:14:06,580
 in the end ended up not moving forward with that and so the developer will have

818
01:14:06,580 --> 01:14:10,180
 the option to build in accordance with their approved preliminary plat for that

819
01:14:10,180 --> 01:14:14,380
 particular property and then also I know Commissioner Ellis had sent me an email

820
01:14:14,380 --> 01:14:17,500
 and was interested in knowing what happened with the plats that were

821
01:14:17,500 --> 01:14:24,100
 slated for the Commission's agenda on February 23rd and and so we went back

822
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:28,660
 and looked at the list we were able to get one of the plats to actually an

823
01:14:28,660 --> 01:14:34,980
 approval status and that was the DC or the Denton ICC edition so that plot has

824
01:14:34,980 --> 01:14:39,060
 been approved the other plots we were able to get them to successfully withdraw

825
01:14:39,060 --> 01:14:44,080
 and so that way we did not have any plots getting approved that we were not

826
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:47,980
 interested in having approved in my apologies I know there were some

827
01:14:47,980 --> 01:14:51,180
 inquiries as to whether or not we were going to have that February 23rd meeting

828
01:14:51,180 --> 01:14:54,740
 and as the weather was approaching we were actually in the process of working

829
01:14:54,740 --> 01:14:58,460
 with our applicants and in trying to get them to withdraw plats particularly

830
01:14:58,460 --> 01:15:02,140
 those that were of concern and working with them on how we could get them back

831
01:15:02,140 --> 01:15:04,860
 before the planning and zoning Commission and get them in a much more

832
01:15:04,860 --> 01:15:08,980
 desirable status for approval so our apologies for getting the word out on

833
01:15:08,980 --> 01:15:12,060
 canceling the meeting late that afternoon but know that we were

834
01:15:12,060 --> 01:15:15,500
 frantically working on that of course we also wanted to have a recommendation on

835
01:15:15,500 --> 01:15:19,060
 the on the comprehensive plan and mobility plan but of most concern for us

836
01:15:19,060 --> 01:15:23,500
 was any plats and what their status was related to that but that's all I have as

837
01:15:23,500 --> 01:15:26,420
 it relates to the matrix I know Commissioner Smith you alluded to earlier

838
01:15:26,420 --> 01:15:29,220
 and might be interested in adding something related to that but happy

839
01:15:29,220 --> 01:15:32,200
 answer any other questions as well yeah the only thing I just wanted to have on

840
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:35,820
 there with those those action items having something on the matrix that would

841
01:15:35,820 --> 01:15:39,260
 address where we are towards those action items as we go through and if it

842
01:15:39,260 --> 01:15:42,700
 goes to council and gets approved for the 2040 plan that give us an update

843
01:15:42,700 --> 01:15:47,260
 nothing nothing super in-depth more than just we've knocked out this item this

844
01:15:47,260 --> 01:15:49,860
 item this item something along those lines just so we know they're getting

845
01:15:49,860 --> 01:15:54,300
 done and then whenever just in the event that you know we don't want Tina or

846
01:15:54,300 --> 01:15:58,420
 anybody else to go anywhere anytime soon but people change jobs and if it takes a

847
01:15:58,420 --> 01:16:01,220
 long time to get those action items implemented in the works we want to make

848
01:16:01,220 --> 01:16:04,980
 sure that there's some homogeneity between those as we get this done okay

849
01:16:04,980 --> 01:16:09,420
 absolutely we can do that thanks anything else for the matrix Commissioner

850
01:16:09,420 --> 01:16:15,580
 Prudt thank you chair I think on tonight's agenda we had one sort of

851
01:16:15,580 --> 01:16:22,740
 postponement due to a problem with noticing and we've had several similar

852
01:16:22,740 --> 01:16:27,540
 cases within the last call it six to nine months I don't really have context

853
01:16:27,540 --> 01:16:33,180
 for whether the occurrence of those has been about normal or excessive I also

854
01:16:33,180 --> 01:16:37,660
 don't even know which ones of those are our city noticed versus developer

855
01:16:37,660 --> 01:16:43,020
 noticed so we don't have to have anything big but just kind of how we're

856
01:16:43,020 --> 01:16:47,580
 doing how we're tracking are there any things that we need to implement to make

857
01:16:47,580 --> 01:16:53,140
 sure that we don't confuse the community before these public hearings absolutely

858
01:16:53,140 --> 01:17:00,540
 we can bring that back and have a conversation on that anything else for

859
01:17:00,540 --> 01:17:06,940
 the matrix okay any concluding items

860
01:17:07,580 --> 01:17:13,460
 Commissioner Cole I just want to say thank you to all your hard work I know

861
01:17:13,460 --> 01:17:19,260
 y'all just been really burning the midnight oil and all this and just we're

862
01:17:19,260 --> 01:17:23,620
 we're just lucky to have you guys the city didn't is lucky to have y'all thank

863
01:17:23,620 --> 01:17:28,860
 y'all for everything you are doing and all the hard work put in thank you I'm

864
01:17:28,860 --> 01:17:32,300
 I'm just the one standing up here but really it's my team working diligently

865
01:17:32,300 --> 01:17:36,700
 behind the scenes so it's all in due credit to them because they're the ones

866
01:17:36,700 --> 01:17:40,980
 that are working the hardest so thank you but we appreciate the recognition I

867
01:17:40,980 --> 01:17:45,460
 agree Commissioner Cole I will second all of that that he said thank you for

868
01:17:45,460 --> 01:17:50,700
 all of your hard work anything else concluding items I'll just say

869
01:17:50,700 --> 01:17:57,140
 congratulations to our city manager being taken out of interim status so

870
01:17:57,140 --> 01:18:03,460
 congratulations to city manager Hensley it's nice that she's on board working

871
01:18:03,460 --> 01:18:08,380
 hard as she always has okay with that I will conclude our meeting at some 41 p.m.

872
01:18:08,380 --> 01:18:10,980
 thank you