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 Good morning and welcome to this meeting

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 of the mobility committee of the city of

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 We have a quorum so we'll go ahead and get

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 Items for individual consideration A,

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 first is considering approval of the

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 minutes of December 15.

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 I'll entertain a motion.

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 Why don't you go ahead and speak

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 >> I move approval.

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 >> Motion and seconded.

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 All in favor say aye.

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 Item B, receive a report and hold a

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 discussion regarding the city of Denton

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 transportation/mobility project status

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 report.

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 >> Mayor Perotem, sir, Mr.

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 Poulter is going to be removed via Zoom

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 this morning so Logan is going to run the

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 slides for him.

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 My apologies.

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 I was in transit.

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 So I pulled over to make sure I was

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 No, I'm good.

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 I'm safe.

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 So the first project we're going to

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 talk about is the plan for the city of

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 If you can make it smaller for everybody to

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 see everything, that would be good.

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 So right now, if you will roll down to the

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 next page, it's the text art report.

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 This project is anticipated to be -- we

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 roll down to the next page, we're thinking

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 that it's probably -- what we're hearing now is

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 And it's just because they're moving on the

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 concrete and asphalt paving for the

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 northbound lanes at a faster pace than they

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 this project is substantially complete.

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 So the 35E mayo project, the 35E

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 layout, we're going to talk about that in a

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 >> Okay, so the mayo project on 35, we're in

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 The merge, we will have the right of way

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 I'll get closer but it will make my head look like a pumpkin.

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 now for 380, no, no, I apologize, it's the next page.

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 an economic impact study be done to the impact to those

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 marching orders, and like I tell Becky from time to time

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 when we talk, the county's driving the boat on this,

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 but the number one stakeholder out there obviously is the city

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 because all of it's city and you've got a lot going on there,

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 court, and we're working with them to get a scope and fee,

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 and as soon as we get them on contract, again,

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 this is primarily a city of Denton and Crum stakeholders,

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 and so we'll include, the county will include both entities in

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 the kickoff meetings to make sure that what we're doing is

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 what everybody wants us to do.

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 Next.

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 All right, so this one, unless you got questions,

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 you know, Becky, I think, is working with Travis,

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 and we've got some calculations done,

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 and we're just working through the best path forward on that,

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 and I don't know if Becky wants to add anything to that or not.

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 John, I believe you covered it.

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 City staff has met in the field with TxDOT to review the

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 construction that needs to happen on the roadway.

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 We're working through that collaboration.

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 Daniel Kramer is leading that charge from our Deputy Director

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 of Operations for Streets, Drainage, and Traffic,

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 so we're coordinating, really working through that process,

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 so we hope to have that resolved in the next few weeks,

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 but for sure, the on-the-ground visit has already taken place

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 based on the cores that were collected for that area.

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 Sorry, so what's the completion timing?

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 There's currently not a completion schedule.

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 What the process happened was TxDOT had to go out

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 and complete cores along this area and actually do pavement

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 cores to find out, you know, what was the actual surface

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 below the asphalt top, so they've done that.

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 They have presented that information to city staff,

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 and a walk-through was held week before last,

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 really to walk through that area,

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 look at the pavement markings on the ground.

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 Now city staff is evaluating that to make sure that we're

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 in alignment with the proposed construction that TxDOT is

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 proposing, being that it's not exactly a complete rebuild.

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 It's a different process that they're working through.

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 Once the agreement has been made between TxDOT and the city,

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 then TxDOT will move forward with the design of those plans

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 and then work through that construction timeframe.

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 So until those decisions are made,

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 city staff has not had that opportunity to set the timeframe.

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 It's going to be based on TxDOT's schedule.

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 Just to add to that a little bit, the path we're taking is a

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 maintenance path because Travis is going to be able to get out

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 there sooner and with the lesser degree of design work and if he

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 goes through his maintenance, and TxDOT has agreed to use

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 maintenance dollars to get this done.

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 So we were talking, you know, 18 months or so to get it to where

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 we can go to construction.

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 We're talking about several months now instead of,

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 you know, a year and a half.

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 >> To go, to get to the start of construction.

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 >> Correct, because the one thing that's happened since we

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 started this opportunity is that TxDOT's kind of shut the door

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 on any kind of turn back programs that reduce capacity.

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 We're not reducing capacity, but TxDOT knows that they have,

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 they're going to have to make these improvements whether or

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 not the city then takes these projects off system.

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 So they're less worried about the agreement between the city

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 and the state now and they just know they've got to get the

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 project done quick.

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 >> And Mayor Perot, just for context, we're only talking

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 about the portion that is south of Hickory where the recent

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 pack four phases one and two project was completed with the

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 water sewer and drainage in that area that's the specific area

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 that I'm referring to with the comments I just made.

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 >> Yeah, I appreciate that.

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 You know, and I totally hear that we don't have timing

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 because we haven't gotten to an agreement, you know, on exactly

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 the plan objectives and so on.

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 But can you know, can you just help us because we have to

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 respond to constituents?

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 Is it likely to be multiple years?

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 >> No, sir, I think that, I think with this type of work and

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 the fact that TxDOT is going to use their maintenance to do it,

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 that we could probably, because they're going to know what,

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 we're going to know what they think they want to do and we're

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 going to press them to do, you know, 30, 40% more than that

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 anyway, just our contingency.

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 And then we think by spring we can have these guys rolling

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 because the design for a rehab is far less difficult than the

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 design for a reconstruction.

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 >> Yeah, no, I get that as far as when to get started.

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 And then is that, from that point on, what's the sort of,

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 I'm sorry to, you know, be a bit of a problem.

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 What's the sort of range of plausible outcomes for,

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 you know, the end date?

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 >> This type of work would be like months, I think.

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 Not like a year, I think it would be done in a paving season.

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 >> Okay, that's helpful to understand, thank you.

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 >> And Mayor Pritz, we are going to be continuing to work with

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 TxDOT to make sure that we're all in alignment.

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 So part of the walkthrough process was to evaluate the

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 areas of which TxDOT anticipated needed to be repaired versus

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 the areas of which the city believed there were opportunities

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 to also make repairs on.

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 So that's a collaboration, making sure everyone's in

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 alignment and we're in agreement with the construction

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 that needs to happen, not only EGLE itself, but also Elm and

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 Locust, like I mentioned, to just south of Hickory.

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 And those agreements, once those are in alignment,

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 then we'll work forward with making sure that they have that

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 plan to actually execute that through their maintenance

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 program like John is referring to.

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 So we're still in the phase of making sure that we're all in

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 alignment based on the data that's been collected because

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 obviously, you know, there may be things that TxDOT didn't

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 necessarily think needed to be repaired, but the city does

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 think needs to be repaired, or vice versa.

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 So it's not a whole, you know, from beginning to end that every

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 single portion of those roadways are in agreement that need to be

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 completely repaired when I say that I mean completely rebuild.

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 So we're walking through that process with them.

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 >> Yeah, I understand.

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 You know, you get the gist of where I'm coming from, but it's

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 just really hard answering the people operating those

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 businesses along there.

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 Anybody else?

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 Okay.

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 >> I think the next- >> Councilmember Byrd, I believe,

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 is going to speak.

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 >> Okay, I have it, I have it.

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 I need for you all to go back to the slide that talks about the

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 380 corridor and the work being done up and around where the

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 frontage road is, where the 288 going north, and I do understand

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 that the work is proceeding on 380 and moving west, and I don't

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 understand, I don't have in my mindset about how long will that

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 particular portion take, is that the lit date that we see?

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 >> Are you talking about the blue section across the lake that

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 has ended the loop?

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 >> The 380 project and going up to 288 and looping around.

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 >> So you're talking about the feasibility, that slide right

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 there, yes.

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 >> That's it, yeah, 380 feasibility study, and I don't

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 see any dates or anything on there, but I am wanting to just

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 kind of get a ball figure idea of when will it finish up at the

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 288, 380 section, I mean, how long is this going to take?

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 >> Okay, so I think there is a project that's under construction

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 right now, if you'll move up the report to the, move up to the

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 2, 380s that are under construction, go for one more,

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 keep one more, yeah, so this right here ties in, this right

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 there ties into the loop with the interim improvements, and it

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 has a December 23 completion date, so all the work that we're

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 doing to add six lanes to 380 from the loop to 377, that work

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 will be done December of next year.

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 Now if you're talking about the eastern section, if you'll

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 scroll down, we have a completion date on that as

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 well, because we have the let date, so we're talking about

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 January 22, they said it would be 36 months, so you're talking

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 about January 25, 22, 23, 24, 25 for it to be complete, and

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 that's adding the six lanes and the raised median and all the

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 interchanges at Nabotel, Legacy, 423, and 720.

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 >> Okay, okay, and then on that 288 portion of that project--

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 >> Okay, the one that goes around the, that we just hired--

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 >> Yeah, the loop, yeah, the north loop, yeah.

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 >> Yeah, so if you'll go to the feasibility page--

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 >> Right there, that's it.

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 >> Okay, so Denton County hired Pacheco Cope to do the

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 environmental study to put frontage roads and turn that part

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 of the loop into a freeway so that the businesses can attach

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 to the frontage road and not directly to the main lanes, and

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 we will have those people on contract in the next 30 days,

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 and we are making, obviously, y'all are, from the county

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 standpoint, that's where a lot of pressure from the city is

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 getting, and so we'll make sure that we have PK very closely

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 aligned with Becky and your development services as we move

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 forward.

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 >> Are frontage roads built first before the main part of

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 the highway?

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 >> So right now you've got the main lanes out there on this

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 section of Loop 288.

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 There's places in the other parts of the county and other

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 parts of the region where frontage roads are first and then

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 the main lanes come in, like on the Dallas North Toll Road, or

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 it's like 35W where it's got main lanes and no frontage roads

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 or we're coming back putting frontage roads on them or the

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 loop, so it just depends on what people did back in the day.

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 We're just trying to fix what's not there, which in this case

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 is the frontage roads.

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 >> Okay, thank you so much, I appreciate that.

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 That gives me a better perspective of some

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 conversations that are being had with some developers and you

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 know, and just the growth more towards that way.

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 I have a question here that a constituent asked.

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 Is it okay if I ask this question?

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 I don't know where it belongs in the conversation, but while I

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 have the floor.

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 She said, "I did have a question for Raymond, though," you know,

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 I'm a teacher, I've got to throw my little commas and

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 everything in there, I'm sorry.

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 I did have a question for Raymond, though, if it could be

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 asked, and the question is, "Due to a portion of Bonnie Bray

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 being closed and number seven, I guess it's the bus route, is

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 rerouted, are the bus stops from Panhandle to University and

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 University going towards 35 being bypassed again, like they

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 were a few years ago," so this sounds like this is apparently a

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 DCTA question or city question.

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 I didn't know where to put that in the grand scheme of things

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 here.

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 >> Sure, Councilmember Bird, we will take that question and work

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 with Raymond to find out the exact locations that this

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 constituent is referring to and get that question clarified, so

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 that's not a problem.

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 >> Okay, thank you very much.

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 All right, my time is done.

468
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 That's one from McGuire, anything else?

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 You're ready to keep going?

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 >> I'd like to jump in, Logan, you read my mind with this slide

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 there, just to talk a little bit about Phase 2 on Elm and Locust

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 and just make you all aware of the conversations we're having.

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 We know there's a lot of complicated issues going on

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 here, obviously we have the water/wastewater project that

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 we're all hearing about, that part has been delayed for a

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 number of years, we have the funding, we're ready to roll,

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 we're just waiting on drainage issues and the road

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 construction there.

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 The drainage issues are significant, so we had a

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 conversation with John just on Friday about how can we work

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 with TechStock to look at funding for the drainage, where

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 are we going to find other funding for drainage, because the

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 drainage is kind of the linchpin to do a lot of the roadway and

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 the water/wastewater project, so I think this is something,

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 obviously when we have the turn back conversations and

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 everything else, that we're going to be talking about

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 frequently over the next few months, I'm sure, and just want

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 to let you all know that we are actively working on trying to

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 coincide all these things because they all fit together,

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 and the drainage piece really is kind of that first thing we

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 need to figure out as we move forward on those projects.

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 >> Thank you.

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 >> And the glossary of terms is the last page, so unless you

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 have questions, that's pretty much it for my side of the

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 story.

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 >> You're not going to read the glossary?

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 >> Only to put you to sleep.

498
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 >> Don't say that, we were up late last night.

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 That'd be a little too easy.

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 >> Sorry.

501
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 >> All right, well, thank you very much.

502
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 Any other questions?

503
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 Great, thanks, John.

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 We'll move on to item C, receive a report and hold a discussion

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 regarding the consideration of removing DCTA's wayside horn on

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 Shady Oaks Drive.

507
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,480
 >> Okay, and I'll just stay up here because I'm giving the

508
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,820
 presentation.

509
00:29:15,820 --> 00:29:18,660
 Good morning, hope everybody's doing well.

510
00:29:18,660 --> 00:29:20,680
 Let me share my screen.

511
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:31,800
 All righty, so this is for the removal of the DCTA wayside horn

512
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,240
 on Shady Oaks Drive.

513
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,400
 A little background, in March of 2021, staff was contacted by a

514
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,680
 resident concerned about the volume of the wayside horn at

515
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,980
 the Shady Oaks Crossing.

516
00:29:43,980 --> 00:29:48,340
 This intersection is currently a quiet zone implemented by DCTA.

517
00:29:48,340 --> 00:29:54,820
 It is a quiet zone approved by the FRA.

518
00:29:54,820 --> 00:29:59,620
 This railroad line is maintained by DCTA for the A train, and

519
00:29:59,660 --> 00:30:03,200
 there are currently three DCTA wayside horns within city limits

520
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,800
 at Sycamore, Shady Oaks, and Mayhill.

521
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:14,380
 So we've been working with DCTA's consultant who also works

522
00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:19,440
 with the FRA on the feasibility of removing the wayside horn.

523
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,380
 They confirmed that the wayside horn could be removed, but other

524
00:30:22,380 --> 00:30:25,380
 requirements would have to be met to maintain the FRA quiet

525
00:30:25,380 --> 00:30:27,860
 zone requirements.

526
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,520
 So there's a few ways that you can maintain a quiet zone, and

527
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,900
 you can implement putting in medians across so people can't

528
00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:42,800
 cross the intersection, but due to Curly Street and the Longhorn

529
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:48,000
 business over here on the bottom part of the map, that is not

530
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,240
 going to be a feasible solution.

531
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,620
 So their recommendation is installing a four-quadrant gate.

532
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,620
 Four-quadrant gate systems are gate at the crossing that

533
00:30:58,620 --> 00:31:02,920
 sufficiently blocks, fully block traffic, highway traffic,

534
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,800
 goodness, from entering the crossing when the gates are

535
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,220
 lowered, including at least one gate for each direction of

536
00:31:09,220 --> 00:31:11,500
 traffic on each approach.

537
00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:14,540
 So there are currently three intersections that have four

538
00:31:14,540 --> 00:31:17,940
 quadrant gates in the city limits, Morse Street, Duncan,

539
00:31:17,940 --> 00:31:20,340
 and Parker's Page Road.

540
00:31:20,340 --> 00:31:23,040
 And then you can see over here what the four-quadrant gate

541
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:28,020
 looks like.

542
00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:31,480
 So the cost estimate for installing the two exits and

543
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:36,260
 removing the existing horn is about $126,000.

544
00:31:36,260 --> 00:31:39,220
 This is an estimate and depends on material costs, including

545
00:31:39,220 --> 00:31:41,900
 design and project management costs.

546
00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:45,560
 If the mobility committee chooses to move forward, funding

547
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,960
 considerations will be put during the budget

548
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,100
 consideration process.

549
00:31:51,140 --> 00:31:55,680
 The timeline, so this will be once the wayside horn, or once

550
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,180
 we start construction, you'll get a 60-day notice, construction

551
00:31:59,180 --> 00:32:03,580
 time, and then 20-day notice to establish that does not begin

552
00:32:03,580 --> 00:32:07,060
 until construction has completed.

553
00:32:07,060 --> 00:32:10,380
 So the next step is receive and address direction provided by

554
00:32:10,380 --> 00:32:11,820
 mobility committee.

555
00:32:11,820 --> 00:32:16,400
 So we're just looking for a recommendation from you guys on

556
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,040
 how to proceed forward.

557
00:32:19,060 --> 00:32:21,460
 Just to clarify, this is just one resident who's

558
00:32:21,460 --> 00:32:25,200
 reached out to us.

559
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,680
 >> I'm sorry, what did the resident say?

560
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,680
 >> They're concerned, so they live close to the Shady Oaks

561
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,840
 Drive Crossing, and they can hear the wayside horn, and it's

562
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,460
 very loud, and they're wondering if we can remove it.

563
00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:43,480
 >> Oh, yeah, okay.

564
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,020
 I'm sure you've heard from more than one resident over the years

565
00:32:46,020 --> 00:32:48,500
 on that.

566
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,520
 >> We have not.

567
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,760
 We have only heard from one, yes.

568
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,200
 That has contacted us directly and has been in contact with CMO.

569
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:02,580
 >> I can tell you that's like an applause line to talk about

570
00:33:02,580 --> 00:33:03,900
 getting rid of that.

571
00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:06,540
 I'll take questions and comments from other members,

572
00:33:06,540 --> 00:33:07,720
 and I've got it.

573
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,620
 >> Vicki Burritt here.

574
00:33:09,620 --> 00:33:13,260
 You all have actually received two, for sure, because I'm also

575
00:33:13,260 --> 00:33:17,820
 one of those other people that have been affected by that horn,

576
00:33:17,860 --> 00:33:21,400
 and I don't live near that area, but I know that I can hear that

577
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:26,500
 horn because it's a different sound, it's a different sound

578
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:31,260
 from when the, you know, the regular train comes through.

579
00:33:31,260 --> 00:33:32,300
 >> Yes, ma'am.

580
00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:35,040
 >> And so if I'm standing in my backyard, and this has happened

581
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:40,320
 to me several times, but because I don't live right there, but I

582
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,180
 know if I can hear that horn from where I live, others are

583
00:33:45,220 --> 00:33:50,960
 just not, I don't think that they're just, or, you know, as

584
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,900
 annoyed about it as this gentleman is apparently, but I

585
00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:57,800
 know that they're probably affected by it.

586
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,440
 I've heard that horn before several times, so I also added

587
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:08,280
 my name to the list of, you know, as a complainant.

588
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,300
 >> Yes, ma'am.

589
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:13,840
 >> So I would definitely like to, did you have any additional?

590
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,720
 >> Oh, I mean, I just want to lend my support to what I think

591
00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:20,020
 you were about to say, which is you live pretty far from that.

592
00:34:20,020 --> 00:34:21,260
 >> I do, I live pretty far from there.

593
00:34:21,260 --> 00:34:22,960
 >> From that crossing, and if you can hear it, that's loud.

594
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,980
 >> I can hear it.

595
00:34:23,980 --> 00:34:27,600
 1230 at night, I'm sitting on my back porch, and I said I can

596
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,600
 hear that horn.

597
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:29,960
 >> Yes, and if you're hearing the wayside horn at that hour,

598
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,560
 it's because DCTA is doing maintenance on the railroad

599
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,760
 track, and they're required to sound the horn for safety

600
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,760
 reasons.

601
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,000
 >> Right, I understand.

602
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,440
 So I'd like to give direction for the city to move forward

603
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,080
 with that project.

604
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,420
 >> And I concur, I would also like to move forward with that.

605
00:34:50,420 --> 00:34:54,320
 >> So I have just a couple of questions.

606
00:34:54,320 --> 00:35:02,460
 How much would it cost to make the lane-changing, I forget the

607
00:35:02,460 --> 00:35:05,360
 exact terms in the backup, but, you know, one of the options was

608
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,760
 doing this, another is, you know, there's a comment in the

609
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,000
 presentation about the medians aren't adequate, but what would

610
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,800
 it cost to do that, to make it so that you can't change lanes?

611
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,780
 My understanding of the basic idea of the four gates so you

612
00:35:18,780 --> 00:35:23,220
 can't go in the wrong lane and get around the gate, but the

613
00:35:23,220 --> 00:35:27,020
 other way to accomplish that is with like a deep curb, is that

614
00:35:27,020 --> 00:35:28,120
 the general idea?

615
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,160
 >> Yes, so you extend the median on both sides, but because of

616
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:39,100
 the placement of, I believe it's curly, you're not able to do

617
00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:40,600
 that.

618
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:41,460
 >> Oh, okay.

619
00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:45,160
 Yes, so curly street is too close to the intersection and you

620
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,700
 have to maintain, I can't remember off the top of my head

621
00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:53,040
 what the length of the curb is, or of the median, and you have

622
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,380
 to maintain that length to be FRA compliant, and because of

623
00:35:57,380 --> 00:35:59,880
 where curly street is, we can't meet that.

624
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:00,980
 >> So it's a fiscal obstacle.

625
00:36:00,980 --> 00:36:07,720
 Okay, $126,000 is a lot of money, but it sounds like that's

626
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:09,200
 the only option you have.

627
00:36:09,220 --> 00:36:12,000
 >> Yeah, I join the majority.

628
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,120
 >> Okay.

629
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,500
 >> All right, I think anything else?

630
00:36:14,500 --> 00:36:16,360
 We're good on, we're done with that item?

631
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,500
 >> I would just point out this was Logan's first presentation,

632
00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:20,800
 so great job, Logan.

633
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,800
 >> Oh, hey, congratulations.

634
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,140
 >> Yay.

635
00:36:25,140 --> 00:36:32,280
 >> So just to clarify, so the gate on the north side of the

636
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,020
 railroad tracks would be in between curly and the railroad

637
00:36:36,020 --> 00:36:39,020
 tracks, right?

638
00:36:39,060 --> 00:36:41,520
 >> I believe so.

639
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,860
 >> Oh, yeah, one other question.

640
00:36:43,860 --> 00:36:48,360
 There's some discussion in the backup about the impact of

641
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,360
 presence sensors.

642
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,160
 Is it our plan to have presence sensors, or not, and it sounds

643
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,840
 like it must serve some purpose, but it sounds like they actually

644
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:03,540
 diminish safety, so that's what I'm asking.

645
00:37:03,540 --> 00:37:07,520
 >> Are you talking about the FRA quiet zone requirements page?

646
00:37:07,540 --> 00:37:10,820
 >> Yeah, yep.

647
00:37:10,820 --> 00:37:14,660
 >> I'm not sure that wasn't DCTA's consultant's

648
00:37:14,660 --> 00:37:21,120
 recommendation, so I will have to get back to you on that.

649
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,260
 >> Okay, sounds like, you know, most of the actions would be the

650
00:37:25,260 --> 00:37:30,000
 same anyway to get the gates, but yeah, I'd like to understand.

651
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,980
 >> Yeah, I believe they gave us the most feasible option, both

652
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:39,280
 cost-wise and do-ability.

653
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,880
 >> Great, thank you.

654
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:47,580
 All right, I'll close that item and open item D, receive a report

655
00:37:47,580 --> 00:37:50,520
 and hold a discussion regarding the project schedules and

656
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,960
 sequencing of construction associated with the different

657
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,360
 phases of the I-35 widening and Bonnie Bray reconstruction

658
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,400
 projects.

659
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,540
 >> Good morning, my name is Kyle Pettigrew, I'm a program manager

660
00:38:03,580 --> 00:38:08,480
 with Capital Improvements and here to discuss the phasing

661
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:13,580
 between I-35 and Bonnie Bray and adjacent projects.

662
00:38:13,620 --> 00:38:33,740
 Let me see, where's the share screen?

663
00:38:33,740 --> 00:38:35,800
 First we'll go through an overview of the adjacent

664
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,260
 projects surrounding Bonnie Bray.

665
00:38:38,260 --> 00:38:41,200
 So this map is a little bit zoomed out just to capture all

666
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:46,620
 of the projects, we do have it in an additional exhibit.

667
00:38:46,620 --> 00:38:51,620
 So we have the I-35 city utility relocations, these are the

668
00:38:51,620 --> 00:38:57,620
 relocations associated with TechStats expansion of I-35 from

669
00:38:57,620 --> 00:39:00,760
 Mayhill to Loop 288 and then from the east-west split up to

670
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,400
 Milam Road.

671
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,260
 The timeframe of these improvements is quarter three of

672
00:39:06,260 --> 00:39:09,940
 this year to quarter four of 2023.

673
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,480
 We have the Denton Municipal electric construction of the

674
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,500
 Hickory substation.

675
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:17,240
 This is a new electrical substation, it's on the east

676
00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:21,120
 side of Bonnie Bray between West Oak and West Hickory.

677
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,920
 So the substation construction is from quarter four this year

678
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,920
 to quarter two of 2024 and they also have a small amount of

679
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,320
 duck bank construction in that area, underground duck bank,

680
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,100
 from quarter two to quarter four of 2024.

681
00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:39,560
 We have the TechStat widening of I-35, so that's the widening

682
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:45,140
 and reconstruction that Mr. Polster reviewed earlier on I-35,

683
00:39:45,140 --> 00:39:48,840
 again Mayhill to Loop 288 and from the east-west split to

684
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,340
 Milam Road.

685
00:39:50,340 --> 00:39:53,820
 So their projects are slated for quarter four of next year to

686
00:39:53,820 --> 00:39:57,760
 quarter four of 2027.

687
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,420
 In looking at this phasing, we discussed it with TechStat

688
00:40:00,420 --> 00:40:04,700
 several times and we verified that traffic will not be

689
00:40:04,700 --> 00:40:08,340
 rerouted along city streets during this time period.

690
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,340
 And TechStat is committed to maintaining their lane counts in

691
00:40:12,340 --> 00:40:14,700
 the construction area during construction.

692
00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:19,180
 So we have the quote of what they committed to below.

693
00:40:19,180 --> 00:40:25,320
 Here's the Bonnie Bray reconstruction.

694
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:32,820
 So phase three, that's south of 35, that's the purple segment.

695
00:40:32,820 --> 00:40:36,820
 That one is fully funded through RTR and utility funds.

696
00:40:36,860 --> 00:40:43,100
 Phase four is the green segment from 35 to scripture.

697
00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:47,200
 Design and acquisitions on that are funded through 2014 bond

698
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,640
 and RTR.

699
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,040
 We're working with the 2022 county bond program for the

700
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,620
 remainder of the construction funding.

701
00:40:56,620 --> 00:41:02,280
 This project is in the same area as the current north-south

702
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,780
 Watermain phase three project.

703
00:41:05,820 --> 00:41:08,660
 That's the project on Bonnie Bray installing the water

704
00:41:08,660 --> 00:41:10,160
 transmission line.

705
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,300
 So north-south water phase three includes temporary restoration

706
00:41:13,300 --> 00:41:16,860
 of the road surface for the south bond lanes where the water

707
00:41:16,860 --> 00:41:19,760
 line is being installed.

708
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,900
 That's set to be completed by quarter two of this year and

709
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:25,140
 we're exploring options to expand that temporary

710
00:41:25,140 --> 00:41:28,940
 restoration to the north bond lanes due to the condition that

711
00:41:28,940 --> 00:41:35,680
 they're in until this phase four, the full road reconstruction

712
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:40,780
 is scheduled to begin in 2024.

713
00:41:40,780 --> 00:41:44,220
 Phase five is from scripture to US 380.

714
00:41:44,220 --> 00:41:46,820
 That's the outline in pink.

715
00:41:46,820 --> 00:41:53,500
 That is funded by 2019 bond funding.

716
00:41:53,500 --> 00:41:54,840
 That's utilized by phase six.

717
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,800
 So as phase six is reimbursed by TechStat, that funding will be

718
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,740
 used for phase five construction.

719
00:41:59,740 --> 00:42:03,980
 And then phase six is from US 380 to US 77.

720
00:42:04,020 --> 00:42:09,680
 That's the blue segment on the northern end of Bonnie Bray.

721
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,680
 So that's funded through utilities and 2019 bond and that

722
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,860
 is reimbursable by TechStat.

723
00:42:16,860 --> 00:42:20,820
 So here's an overall program schedule.

724
00:42:20,820 --> 00:42:27,060
 The top part of it includes the adjacent projects and the bottom

725
00:42:27,060 --> 00:42:30,540
 section includes the Bonnie Bray reconstruction.

726
00:42:30,540 --> 00:42:33,580
 So a few notes on this.

727
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,740
 The Bonnie Bray program will overlap with these adjacent

728
00:42:36,740 --> 00:42:41,640
 construction projects until mid 2026 when Bonnie Bray is set

729
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,080
 to be completed.

730
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,960
 TechStat has committed to maintain their traffic pattern

731
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,960
 and a high level traffic study suggests that the I-35

732
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,800
 construction will not have a significant increase of traffic

733
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:01,060
 on Bonnie Bray during that reconstruction.

734
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:06,980
 So Bonnie Bray phase four, we are working with the county bond

735
00:43:06,980 --> 00:43:09,440
 to fund the construction portion.

736
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,820
 And then the further note that that pork pavement quality due

737
00:43:12,820 --> 00:43:14,720
 to construction on the north-south water main phase

738
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:20,860
 three, we're looking to remedy that through temporary surface

739
00:43:20,860 --> 00:43:24,420
 restoration that would be designed to last until phase

740
00:43:24,420 --> 00:43:29,460
 four of Bonnie Bray begins in 2024.

741
00:43:29,500 --> 00:43:33,300
 So then here's just a overall construction heat maps.

742
00:43:33,300 --> 00:43:37,040
 So on the left we have 2022.

743
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,440
 Any line in blue is a City of Denton project.

744
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,300
 Any line in red is a TechStat project.

745
00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:46,480
 So if you notice the blue lines, we have construction,

746
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,540
 the utility relocations over at May Hill and right by the

747
00:43:50,540 --> 00:43:53,780
 east-west split of 35 beginning.

748
00:43:53,820 --> 00:43:59,820
 We have the north-south water finishing up their temporary

749
00:43:59,820 --> 00:44:03,600
 surface restoration and then phase six and phase three,

750
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,100
 the far southern end and the far northern end of Bonnie Bray

751
00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:08,340
 beginning.

752
00:44:08,340 --> 00:44:14,840
 Next year we would have all of the utility relocations for

753
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,980
 TechStat underway while phase six and phase three are fully

754
00:44:17,980 --> 00:44:21,320
 underway for Bonnie Bray.

755
00:44:21,340 --> 00:44:25,520
 2024 we would be done with the TechStat utility relocations,

756
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,820
 but they would begin their work in red while we're finishing up

757
00:44:28,820 --> 00:44:34,020
 phase three and six and in the middle of phase four.

758
00:44:34,020 --> 00:44:39,660
 And then 2025 to '26 on the far right we have TechStats work

759
00:44:39,660 --> 00:44:42,700
 completing while Bonnie Bray is just finishing up phase five

760
00:44:42,700 --> 00:44:44,740
 in the middle.

761
00:44:44,740 --> 00:44:49,140
 Any questions on the coordination between the

762
00:44:49,140 --> 00:44:50,740
 projects?

763
00:44:50,780 --> 00:44:53,420
 >> Kyle, if I could just jump in real quick, just a little

764
00:44:53,420 --> 00:44:56,080
 context, I think, you know, we really looked at a number of

765
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,480
 different options when we came up with this proposal.

766
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,620
 We know that, I mean, and I think we tried to make it clear

767
00:45:00,620 --> 00:45:04,920
 on the map, 2024 is going to be kind of a nightmare, right?

768
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,060
 I mean, we're going to hear a lot of comments.

769
00:45:07,060 --> 00:45:09,760
 We're going to have a significant public outreach push

770
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,060
 to make sure everyone's aware of what's going on.

771
00:45:12,060 --> 00:45:16,100
 But we're going to be fully prepared for questions and

772
00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:17,940
 complaints and everything along with it.

773
00:45:17,980 --> 00:45:20,780
 We looked at maybe phasing out Bonnie Bray and kind of

774
00:45:20,780 --> 00:45:24,540
 extending the project, but really this was the best option

775
00:45:24,540 --> 00:45:27,880
 to kind of rip the bandaid off and just do everything we can.

776
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,580
 So just a little context and all the work that went into this.

777
00:45:31,580 --> 00:45:34,560
 >> Yeah, I definitely appreciate that and, you know,

778
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,720
 I think that this can be filed under growing pains.

779
00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:44,260
 It sounds like staff has done the best they can to design a

780
00:45:44,300 --> 00:45:48,140
 plan that will minimize those growing pains, but these are

781
00:45:48,140 --> 00:45:51,600
 just the types of situations that we run into when a city is

782
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,180
 growing as fast as we are.

783
00:45:54,180 --> 00:45:57,280
 >> I would mention too that one of the big decision points when

784
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:02,140
 staff, Kyle, myself, et cetera, worked with TxDOT and really

785
00:46:02,140 --> 00:46:05,160
 understood how they're going to construct.

786
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,260
 Dallas District of TxDOT has a protocol that they follow.

787
00:46:08,260 --> 00:46:12,260
 Kyle mentioned it, where they do not lower the level of service.

788
00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:15,220
 So if there's three lanes out there today along 35,

789
00:46:15,220 --> 00:46:17,900
 there's going to be three lanes out there during construction.

790
00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:20,540
 And that really changes the way you think about that overall

791
00:46:20,540 --> 00:46:23,040
 construction in both of those areas with those roadways

792
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,040
 and alignments.

793
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,500
 So that was a very helpful tool when we had that conversation

794
00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:29,680
 with TxDOT really to bring that forward.

795
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,940
 Not every district of TxDOT does that, but that is the

796
00:46:32,940 --> 00:46:34,980
 Dallas District's protocol.

797
00:46:34,980 --> 00:46:40,380
 >> Councilmember Byrd, any comments or questions?

798
00:46:40,420 --> 00:46:45,960
 I have a number of ma'am, but go ahead if you've got some.

799
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,260
 >> So the Bonnie Bray phases, I don't know, I mean, it's

800
00:46:50,260 --> 00:46:52,960
 probably too late in the game to kind of bring this up, but,

801
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,840
 you know, obviously they're numbered from south to north,

802
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,800
 but they don't go in chronological order.

803
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,540
 Is there perhaps some way we can more clearly communicate that to

804
00:47:04,540 --> 00:47:06,780
 the public, because that's going to be a little confusing, I

805
00:47:06,780 --> 00:47:10,280
 think, to the public that phase four is going to be the last one

806
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,320
 to get done, not phase six.

807
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,960
 >> You have a problem with phase six being before phase five,

808
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,400
 basically being concurrent with phase three?

809
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,320
 I don't understand why it's confusing about that.

810
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,760
 >> I think that's a good point.

811
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,160
 We can think about that, especially on the public

812
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,160
 outreach.

813
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,660
 I think the numbers really were derived from the bond program,

814
00:47:26,660 --> 00:47:28,640
 right, because we had the 2014 and we were looking at these

815
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,680
 phases, the opportunity to have six go first with the external

816
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,800
 funding really drove some of that, but I think that's a good

817
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,180
 point, especially as we are outward focused on how we

818
00:47:37,180 --> 00:47:38,220
 message that.

819
00:47:41,220 --> 00:47:48,920
 >> I was talking with a constituent one day, and every

820
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,920
 time I talk to someone, they're always talking about the roads,

821
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,000
 and so I thought maybe we would design a program and call it

822
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:00,760
 get mad, get mad again, then be happy.

823
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,600
 So maybe that might be something that will help put all of this

824
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:04,840
 in perspective.

825
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,840
 We're already mad, we're going to get mad again, and then we'll

826
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,840
 be happy someday.

827
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,780
 My question does go to the Bonnie Bray.

828
00:48:15,780 --> 00:48:18,380
 It looks like it was coming along quite fine to me.

829
00:48:18,380 --> 00:48:23,120
 I drive down Bonnie Bray here and there, and it looks like,

830
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,320
 you know, you can see the progress on it.

831
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,360
 And from a layperson's perspective, it appears as though

832
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,300
 it's starting to kind of wrap up.

833
00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:34,240
 But as we look here, it seems like there's quite a bit more to

834
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:36,700
 go through with that project if we're looking at it.

835
00:48:36,740 --> 00:48:39,080
 Of course, from top to bottom.

836
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:43,680
 So it appears to be okay, especially on the northern side

837
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,040
 where we're wrapping it up and then closer to 35.

838
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,720
 It looks like it's okay.

839
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:53,460
 So it looks like we'll have to do some media work on teaching

840
00:48:53,460 --> 00:48:56,760
 and educating the public as to how it's going to go through.

841
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:57,920
 >> Thank you.

842
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,020
 >> Yep.

843
00:49:00,020 --> 00:49:05,560
 >> So I have, you know, some questions that, I don't know,

844
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:10,240
 they may be stupid questions, but the premise, as it was

845
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:14,980
 explained to me, I think by pre-TAM, who's on here now,

846
00:49:14,980 --> 00:49:19,980
 by somebody, was behind the whole effort to do Bonnie Bray

847
00:49:19,980 --> 00:49:24,020
 and why it's been so heavily funded by the state was precisely

848
00:49:24,020 --> 00:49:27,820
 because they wanted it to be an alternate route while so much

849
00:49:27,820 --> 00:49:29,580
 work was being done on 35.

850
00:49:29,580 --> 00:49:32,620
 Now, if, as, you know, to me, this is like the big headline,

851
00:49:32,620 --> 00:49:35,320
 but it's in the footnote, if they're going to keep the same

852
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:40,660
 number of lanes going on 35 throughout construction,

853
00:49:40,660 --> 00:49:46,500
 so there really isn't a need for that, why are we doing it?

854
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:51,000
 And before you answer, you know, and, or get over being

855
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:57,380
 thunderstruck by the bluntness of that question, some of it

856
00:49:57,380 --> 00:50:01,760
 clearly has to do with the high school under construction.

857
00:50:01,780 --> 00:50:06,660
 How does the timing that we've been shown sync up with key

858
00:50:06,660 --> 00:50:07,860
 dates for that?

859
00:50:07,860 --> 00:50:10,800
 So those are my two questions to start with.

860
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:15,660
 Why are we doing it if it's not, if the original purpose is not,

861
00:50:15,660 --> 00:50:17,100
 no longer needed?

862
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:22,340
 And is the answer in part the high school and development

863
00:50:22,340 --> 00:50:24,840
 around that and how are we doing on that timing?

864
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:32,440
 So as far as why we're doing it, the work that's planned is an

865
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:37,880
 overall street reconstruction, which includes not just surface

866
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:42,020
 restoration, it's total removal of the pavement, it's repair of

867
00:50:42,020 --> 00:50:45,920
 the subgrade and placing back brand new pavement.

868
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:51,900
 And the reason for it, especially down towards 35, is

869
00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:55,400
 temporary repairs or surface repairs have a very short

870
00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:01,280
 lifespan, so we can resurface it, but with the traffic that it

871
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,540
 sees, it will, it will need to be resurfaced again, you know,

872
00:51:05,540 --> 00:51:07,080
 within five years.

873
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,660
 So with the overall reconstruction, that's a big

874
00:51:10,660 --> 00:51:11,660
 portion of it.

875
00:51:11,660 --> 00:51:17,060
 And then I believe as far as phase six with the, with the

876
00:51:17,060 --> 00:51:21,500
 connection with the high school, there's a, that with the state

877
00:51:21,540 --> 00:51:25,760
 funding and with the construction of the new high

878
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,900
 school there, that was the decision that pushed phase six

879
00:51:28,900 --> 00:51:33,600
 to be constructed before the rest of the phase out of sequence.

880
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:38,280
 If I could just jump in and try to answer your question, I think

881
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,840
 to answer your question specifically, I don't, you know,

882
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,680
 the push that Bonnie and Bray wasn't for the temporary time

883
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,980
 while they're doing 35 construction, I think it was the

884
00:51:46,980 --> 00:51:51,220
 long term to have that alternate route long term, not just

885
00:51:51,260 --> 00:51:52,260
 during construction.

886
00:51:52,260 --> 00:51:57,040
 So I think that's a difference in framing the conversation.

887
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,200
 >> And, okay, thank you for that.

888
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:05,140
 And then, okay, now I get that the reason six was accelerated

889
00:52:05,140 --> 00:52:08,240
 so that it no longer makes sense to call it six was because of

890
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:09,320
 the school.

891
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,240
 So does that timing still work?

892
00:52:11,240 --> 00:52:14,220
 I mean, I'm saying that because I don't know exactly what the

893
00:52:14,220 --> 00:52:16,660
 timing needs are for the school.

894
00:52:16,660 --> 00:52:21,080
 So are we still meeting that objective?

895
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,120
 >> I believe so.

896
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,360
 There's current capacity up there, you know, with the

897
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,920
 expansion of six starting this year.

898
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,860
 I believe that's going according to the discussed schedule.

899
00:52:31,860 --> 00:52:35,500
 >> Could we, you know, maybe have a follow up note on that,

900
00:52:35,500 --> 00:52:39,340
 just to kind of confirm that that's still on target?

901
00:52:39,340 --> 00:52:40,880
 >> Yep.

902
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,840
 >> Appreciate that.

903
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:48,940
 And my last question is, I notice in the footnotes that it

904
00:52:48,980 --> 00:52:51,980
 says that when they have temporary closures, which may

905
00:52:51,980 --> 00:52:56,360
 occur due to demolition of bridges and a couple of other

906
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,960
 conditions, they say it will not go on city streets.

907
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,160
 It will use the TxDOT network.

908
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:09,660
 That means not Monte Bray, Locust and Elm, right?

909
00:53:09,660 --> 00:53:12,900
 >> They, so whenever they have to do that, they'll submit a

910
00:53:12,900 --> 00:53:16,580
 plan, you know, the TxDOT network that they have to reroute

911
00:53:16,580 --> 00:53:18,440
 through has to be able to handle the capacity that they're

912
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,480
 planning to reroute.

913
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,320
 So they'll have to submit a plan.

914
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,860
 I know Elm and Locust are logical because they're close,

915
00:53:25,860 --> 00:53:29,380
 but they might not be able to handle the capacity of traffic

916
00:53:29,380 --> 00:53:33,560
 that TxDOT is needing to move, so it may, you know,

917
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,020
 be over towards Luke 288.

918
00:53:36,020 --> 00:53:38,460
 >> Okay, because that, yeah, my reaction was that that would be

919
00:53:38,460 --> 00:53:40,540
 sort of potentially disastrous.

920
00:53:40,540 --> 00:53:44,900
 So there are alternatives that would be considered.

921
00:53:44,900 --> 00:53:46,240
 Okay, good to know.

922
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,940
 >> Mayor Pritam, to that question, we will confirm with

923
00:53:49,940 --> 00:53:52,040
 TxDOT that that's not their anticipation.

924
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,540
 I haven't been aware or had any conversations that an alternate

925
00:53:55,540 --> 00:53:58,980
 route or an alternate location would be moving folks from 35

926
00:53:58,980 --> 00:54:01,020
 to Elm and Locust, nor has Kyle.

927
00:54:01,020 --> 00:54:05,160
 So we will confirm that, but that's not what we understood

928
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,420
 from the information that we received or the conversations

929
00:54:07,420 --> 00:54:08,960
 that we've had with TxDOT.

930
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,860
 They will look to have other locations that are TxDOT

931
00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:16,460
 structures to move folks to and from.

932
00:54:16,460 --> 00:54:19,200
 >> Yeah, it'd be great to hear what, you know, they think they

933
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:23,780
 might be leaning toward.

934
00:54:23,780 --> 00:54:25,020
 That's all I have on this item.

935
00:54:25,020 --> 00:54:28,640
 Anyone else have anything else?

936
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:29,780
 Okay, thank you.

937
00:54:29,780 --> 00:54:30,920
 >> Thank you.

938
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,860
 >> So we'll move on to item E, staff report.

939
00:54:41,900 --> 00:54:44,400
 All righty, so the first thing we're going to start off with

940
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,700
 today on the staff report is I'm going to ask Brett to come down

941
00:54:48,700 --> 00:54:50,200
 and introduce himself.

942
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,140
 I'm happy to announce that we now have a new deputy city

943
00:54:53,140 --> 00:54:55,420
 engineer who started on Monday.

944
00:54:55,420 --> 00:54:58,020
 So I know you're all very excited, as you know, that our

945
00:54:58,020 --> 00:55:01,180
 department was much needing this position for a period of time.

946
00:55:01,180 --> 00:55:05,620
 And so we have a new deputy city engineer who started on Monday.

947
00:55:05,620 --> 00:55:08,120
 So I know you're all very excited, as you know, that our

948
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,460
 department was much needing this position for a period of time.

949
00:55:11,500 --> 00:55:14,400
 And so we are going to have Brett come down and talk to us a

950
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,240
 little bit about his background and give him an opportunity to

951
00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:21,440
 introduce himself.

952
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,540
 >> Welcome, Brett.

953
00:55:24,540 --> 00:55:25,580
 >> Thank you.

954
00:55:25,580 --> 00:55:27,240
 My name is Brett Bourgeois.

955
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:28,840
 I'm the new deputy city engineer.

956
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:33,480
 And I come from California by way of Minnesota, have eight

957
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,020
 years of experience of design experience in California, then

958
00:55:37,020 --> 00:55:40,120
 have about seven years of project manage experience.

959
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,220
 Just recently five of it up in Minnesota, managing a light rail

960
00:55:43,220 --> 00:55:48,260
 project for Minneapolis and the city's areas and then just

961
00:55:48,260 --> 00:55:52,040
 relocated here about two weeks ago and started on Monday.

962
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,000
 So I decided to be working here and getting to know everybody

963
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,500
 and being part of the city.

964
00:55:57,500 --> 00:56:02,520
 >> We are really glad to have you and I believe you've picked

965
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,040
 a really nice place to live.

966
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,640
 >> Yes, I'm liking it a lot.

967
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:06,640
 It's very nice.

968
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,520
 It's nice to be able to cold, nice to be able to go outside

969
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,860
 year-round and enjoying everything that Fenton and

970
00:56:12,860 --> 00:56:14,820
 Texas has to offer.

971
00:56:14,820 --> 00:56:16,400
 >> Excellent.

972
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,420
 >> There's certainly no shortage of work for you.

973
00:56:19,420 --> 00:56:20,100
 >> I know there is.

974
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:21,660
 Thank you.

975
00:56:21,660 --> 00:56:23,600
 >> Thank you, Brett.

976
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:24,600
 All righty.

977
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,040
 So we'll move on to the staff report.

978
00:56:36,580 --> 00:56:44,120
 Let me play a little bit of -- all righty.

979
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,360
 So first thing that we did, obviously, was introduce Brett.

980
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,900
 The second item that is currently on our report is to

981
00:56:49,900 --> 00:56:53,160
 talk about the speeding concerns along Dallas Drive.

982
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:58,700
 I had some several Friday reports that we have put out,

983
00:56:58,700 --> 00:57:02,200
 obviously, that y'all get a copy of and that backup information.

984
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:06,140
 You can see that there was a Friday report in October and

985
00:57:06,180 --> 00:57:09,620
 then, of course, another one later in October and then

986
00:57:09,620 --> 00:57:11,780
 another one that happened in November.

987
00:57:11,780 --> 00:57:15,180
 And so just wanted to kind of bring up, and I'll go back to

988
00:57:15,180 --> 00:57:17,920
 the very top, just to kind of talk through our action plan and

989
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,400
 our next steps.

990
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,960
 So, you know, during the last meeting that we had in December,

991
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,460
 you know, there was a request to talk about the speeding concerns

992
00:57:27,460 --> 00:57:28,800
 along Dallas Drive.

993
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,900
 Reminder, Dallas Drive is a TxDOT roadway, but the following

994
00:57:32,900 --> 00:57:35,840
 Friday report items really were the steps that staff has taken

995
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,180
 forward to prepare that information for all of you to

996
00:57:39,180 --> 00:57:41,080
 address those speeding concerns.

997
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,980
 We've been in contact with the police department and we have

998
00:57:43,980 --> 00:57:46,880
 regular meetings with them to really talk about what the speed

999
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,560
 studies show, what the information is that's collected

1000
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,700
 and discuss what additional measures could happen or occur

1001
00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:57,120
 to help with those speeding concerns.

1002
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,660
 I will tell you that Nathan, I know I've mentioned this before,

1003
00:58:00,660 --> 00:58:03,740
 is leading the citywide speed study effort and this roadway

1004
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,800
 has been added as a part of that and we think that will give us a

1005
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,340
 good idea based on the data collected and he has a number of

1006
00:58:10,340 --> 00:58:12,540
 collection points along this roadway.

1007
00:58:12,540 --> 00:58:15,980
 And so we are anticipating, based on that information coming

1008
00:58:15,980 --> 00:58:19,420
 back, then looking at the speed limit of this particular roadway

1009
00:58:19,420 --> 00:58:22,620
 to see if any modifications need to be made in coordination with

1010
00:58:22,620 --> 00:58:24,920
 TxDOT.

1011
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,760
 Until that, obviously, I know we've talked about the date for

1012
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,400
 that to be completed and then come to share that with council.

1013
00:58:31,420 --> 00:58:33,860
 And of course, mobility committee would be late August,

1014
00:58:33,860 --> 00:58:37,740
 early September and so when we do bring that forward,

1015
00:58:37,740 --> 00:58:40,500
 we'll talk about if there's modifications that need to be

1016
00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:42,540
 made in this area.

1017
00:58:42,540 --> 00:58:47,940
 For now, I guess I should mention of course PD will

1018
00:58:47,940 --> 00:58:51,780
 continue to enforce the concerns and I know a lot of the concerns

1019
00:58:51,780 --> 00:58:54,680
 that have been mentioned, just recently we've had that

1020
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:59,160
 conversation even last week with PD and they put some additional

1021
00:58:59,180 --> 00:59:02,760
 measures out there to look in those areas where folks are

1022
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:09,300
 exiting 35 at a higher rate of speed and then of course it goes

1023
00:59:09,300 --> 00:59:14,100
 down to 45 immediately to 35 and then in some areas all the way

1024
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:16,700
 to 30 as you come through town.

1025
00:59:16,700 --> 00:59:20,240
 I myself have received a speeding violation on that roadway

1026
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:24,140
 about 20 years ago so I understand the concerns and know

1027
00:59:24,140 --> 00:59:27,820
 how hard it is at many times to, you know,

1028
00:59:27,860 --> 00:59:29,920
 obviously take your foot off the gas.

1029
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:34,420
 And you have to stop blaming yourself.

1030
00:59:34,420 --> 00:59:39,060
 That feedback sign on Bell headed northbound like just

1031
00:59:39,060 --> 00:59:41,540
 north of Dallas Drive is that gets me every time,

1032
00:59:41,540 --> 00:59:43,340
 every single time I go past that sign,

1033
00:59:43,340 --> 00:59:45,040
 I go, oh my gosh, I'm speeding.

1034
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,240
 Right, it's definitely hard to realize so just I wanted to

1035
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,440
 mention that just simply because obviously we understand the

1036
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,240
 concerns, we're working to address those.

1037
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,540
 We know that we're going to continue to hear concerns in

1038
00:59:57,580 --> 01:00:00,980
 this area, want to take that time to put this as a part of

1039
01:00:00,980 --> 01:00:03,120
 the speed study to see if there's additional improvements

1040
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:04,180
 that can be made.

1041
01:00:04,180 --> 01:00:08,560
 Also understand that as 35 changes in that area and some of

1042
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:12,100
 those intersection connections change in that area,

1043
01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:15,900
 it'll also change some of those exit and on ramps.

1044
01:00:15,900 --> 01:00:19,000
 Same, you know, same thing happens as you're trying to

1045
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,440
 leave Dallas Drive to enter 35 in that left lane configuration.

1046
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,600
 I know we also get concerns about that too so just wanted to

1047
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,920
 bring that forward.

1048
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,120
 Talk about the next item.

1049
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,420
 The next item we discussed on our last meeting was the

1050
01:00:33,420 --> 01:00:37,320
 intersection of Parkway Street and then Locust and Elm.

1051
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:42,660
 I know we mentioned that of course James in the back.

1052
01:00:42,660 --> 01:00:45,260
 James is up there, yes he is, there he is.

1053
01:00:45,260 --> 01:00:48,100
 So James and his staff, I think I mentioned this to you last

1054
01:00:48,100 --> 01:00:50,460
 time, I mean literally on a Thursday night we're out there

1055
01:00:50,460 --> 01:00:54,100
 working to get speed, I mean sorry, stop signs deployed.

1056
01:00:54,140 --> 01:01:00,140
 Obviously as you're traveling southbound on Elm they now have

1057
01:01:00,140 --> 01:01:02,780
 that red flashing light that notifies you of the stop sign

1058
01:01:02,780 --> 01:01:06,380
 in that area and Nathan along with James,

1059
01:01:06,380 --> 01:01:09,420
 those groups have worked together really to talk about

1060
01:01:09,420 --> 01:01:10,560
 what our next steps are.

1061
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,300
 Staff has determined that a roadway diet in this area would

1062
01:01:13,300 --> 01:01:17,820
 be feasible so we're going to be looking at taking Parkway to one

1063
01:01:17,820 --> 01:01:21,200
 lane in each direction with some bike lane that will really take

1064
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:25,040
 us all the way around to the park to Schmitz I believe is the

1065
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:29,540
 name of that roadway so really helping with that repurposing of

1066
01:01:29,540 --> 01:01:33,580
 that roadway which will also slow down some of the traffic in

1067
01:01:33,580 --> 01:01:36,740
 that area so just wanted to bring that up.

1068
01:01:36,740 --> 01:01:40,180
 These will be intersection enhancements and really pavement

1069
01:01:40,180 --> 01:01:45,520
 markings and signage so no roadway changes per se besides

1070
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,960
 those frivolous extra things like the markings and the signs

1071
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,400
 so I wanted to bring that up to you.

1072
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:54,560
 >> Excuse me Becky.

1073
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:55,640
 >> Yes sir.

1074
01:01:55,640 --> 01:02:01,380
 >> Do you happen to know what is the crash history when it was

1075
01:02:01,380 --> 01:02:06,340
 signalized and then at the various sort of treatments that

1076
01:02:06,340 --> 01:02:10,780
 it's had since at those intersections?

1077
01:02:10,780 --> 01:02:12,680
 >> I do not have that data.

1078
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,480
 I can obviously collect that data.

1079
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,480
 When I became aware of the situation of course the signals

1080
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:24,120
 were already removed and it was non-signalized and it was just

1081
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,360
 that stop obviously at Parkway as Almond Locust had that full

1082
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:32,800
 through traffic pattern but with those additional stop signs

1083
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,680
 you know obviously we're still seeing some crashes but I can

1084
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:42,340
 collect that data based on what recollection and what's in the

1085
01:02:42,340 --> 01:02:46,020
 system from the police department without an issue.

1086
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,980
 >> Yeah, if it's not too difficult I think it would be

1087
01:02:49,980 --> 01:02:53,180
 just good to know what we're aiming for and whether what

1088
01:02:53,180 --> 01:02:56,060
 we're doing is being effective or not.

1089
01:02:56,060 --> 01:02:58,520
 >> Sure and I would just mention and I know I mentioned this

1090
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,300
 again last night you know folks have to get used to the new

1091
01:03:02,300 --> 01:03:05,340
 patterns that's the reason for the flash on the stop sign you

1092
01:03:05,340 --> 01:03:09,900
 know many folks travel that area every single day and it may

1093
01:03:09,900 --> 01:03:13,340
 take them some time to make that muscle memory of that

1094
01:03:13,380 --> 01:03:17,140
 intersection in that area so keep in mind that we have seen

1095
01:03:17,140 --> 01:03:21,880
 some crashes just as we traverse between the transfer of no stop

1096
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,260
 signs as an all-way stop from just a two-way stop so you know

1097
01:03:25,260 --> 01:03:29,360
 we will see some of those types of crashes but we'll work with

1098
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,100
 PD to collect that actual data.

1099
01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:35,840
 I will have to go back and have that data performed just to see

1100
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,940
 when the signal was there and what happened, why it was

1101
01:03:38,940 --> 01:03:42,100
 removed and then work through that process but we can bring

1102
01:03:42,140 --> 01:03:45,080
 that back as an update at next month with that additional

1103
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,600
 information for you.

1104
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,280
 >> I think that'd be great you know and so my expectation would

1105
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:54,020
 be you know shortly after you make any change there are

1106
01:03:54,020 --> 01:03:57,960
 incidents and then they should go away right.

1107
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,320
 >> Yes, sir that would be our hope.

1108
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,360
 >> Yeah okay that'd be interesting to see thank you.

1109
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,500
 >> No problem sir so the next item that was mentioned at the

1110
01:04:06,500 --> 01:04:09,100
 last meeting just to follow up was the read at the Roodell

1111
01:04:09,140 --> 01:04:12,760
 Street widening concerns obviously in the Friday report

1112
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,840
 on January 14 there was really an update of that didn't basic

1113
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,600
 services center proposal.

1114
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,720
 I wanted to just highlight that one of the focus areas was the

1115
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,480
 Fulton property which was located on Roodell Street and

1116
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,180
 that obviously we're still in preliminary plans of Roodell

1117
01:04:29,180 --> 01:04:33,480
 Street extension and we're working through that 30% design

1118
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,900
 which is completed in that area but working through that final

1119
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,660
 funding before we would move forward with that project really

1120
01:04:39,660 --> 01:04:42,440
 just that that's on hold at this time as we work through those

1121
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,200
 next steps I know there were questions about that particular

1122
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,280
 area and how Roodell and Mingo intersection would traverse

1123
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,200
 through that piece of property so just wanted to refer you back

1124
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,380
 to that Friday report.

1125
01:04:54,380 --> 01:05:01,580
 >> Well if any the question you know that I was present for me

1126
01:05:01,580 --> 01:05:05,360
 was to have a reconcile really just to get a shared point of

1127
01:05:05,380 --> 01:05:12,720
 view from staff between your department and development on

1128
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,160
 whether that project is critically needed or not and

1129
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:23,000
 I was hearing from Jane who was referenced here that supposedly

1130
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:28,080
 Ron Mangida has said oh yeah that's not a problem at all so

1131
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,020
 you know a very different point of view so what I'm really

1132
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:36,880
 looking for was the consensus staff you on the on how

1133
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:40,320
 compelling the need is for the widening project.

1134
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,760
 >> Yes, sir and I have gone back and discuss with development

1135
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,320
 services and planning department.

1136
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,460
 I'm not sure that the information you received is

1137
01:05:47,460 --> 01:05:51,860
 actually the information that was conveyed and it is a planned

1138
01:05:51,860 --> 01:05:56,200
 capital project that's a part of the overall a CIP and it's a

1139
01:05:56,200 --> 01:06:00,340
 bond project that was put through with the bond program

1140
01:06:00,380 --> 01:06:04,980
 in 2014 and it is anticipated that definitely that's an area

1141
01:06:04,980 --> 01:06:07,980
 in an intersection that needs to be improved at Rue Dell and

1142
01:06:07,980 --> 01:06:11,420
 Mingo and then connect back into the existing roadway

1143
01:06:11,420 --> 01:06:14,120
 infrastructure and that is the location that was currently

1144
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:19,220
 selected of course if you know council just makes a decision

1145
01:06:19,220 --> 01:06:22,660
 that they no longer believe that that's the the right approach

1146
01:06:22,660 --> 01:06:25,900
 and of course staff will take that information back and

1147
01:06:25,900 --> 01:06:30,100
 receive that determination but I do not believe that the way

1148
01:06:30,140 --> 01:06:33,400
 that that information was conveyed to you was the actual

1149
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,880
 correct way that it was conveyed and it is shown on our mobility

1150
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:41,180
 plan and it is a approved project to the 29 or 2014 bond

1151
01:06:41,180 --> 01:06:42,520
 program.

1152
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,980
 >> So at some point will there be a discussion of council

1153
01:06:45,980 --> 01:06:50,560
 about the original rationale why it was on the plan and what

1154
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:54,360
 alternatives would be if we didn't do that or you know I

1155
01:06:54,400 --> 01:07:00,900
 just there's always conflicting needs and we have to weigh how

1156
01:07:00,900 --> 01:07:05,600
 compelling each is right so.

1157
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,380
 >> Sure, yes, sir, I would anticipate that that type of

1158
01:07:08,380 --> 01:07:10,840
 conversation would come up during the tiny home village

1159
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,660
 conversation. I believe that scheduled for council and I'm

1160
01:07:14,660 --> 01:07:18,280
 going off memory for late March.

1161
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,320
 >> So we'll hear the transportation aspect of that at

1162
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:22,660
 that time whatever that is.

1163
01:07:22,700 --> 01:07:25,460
 >> Yes, there and there will be representatives, I'm sure from

1164
01:07:25,460 --> 01:07:28,700
 all different departments discussing impacts or concerns

1165
01:07:28,700 --> 01:07:32,240
 questions, etc. As those were all listed as a part of that

1166
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:36,440
 overall RFI you know that was submitted and work through the

1167
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,780
 process so my anticipation is those types of questions would

1168
01:07:39,780 --> 01:07:42,720
 come up during that conversation.

1169
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:47,820
 >> I'm just just a note we're scheduled to discuss the RFI on

1170
01:07:47,820 --> 01:07:52,080
 April 19th April 19th OK, I'm sorry I was going purely on

1171
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,620
 memory so I appreciate that.

1172
01:07:55,620 --> 01:07:58,800
 I know originally it might have been in March and was moved or

1173
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:03,100
 okay, so thank you councilmember McGuire I try to keep those

1174
01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:05,640
 dates in my head, but I can't remember everything so I

1175
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,140
 appreciate that.

1176
01:08:07,140 --> 01:08:12,580
 >> Are we too much to keep in your head and how you do it.

1177
01:08:12,580 --> 01:08:16,220
 >> All righty so let's go back to the last part of the staff

1178
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:22,780
 report which let me see and then I'll share.

1179
01:08:22,780 --> 01:08:26,660
 So that was actually the last item we had on the staff report

1180
01:08:26,660 --> 01:08:34,120
 and so let me go to the second exhibit I'm going to be pulling

1181
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:40,060
 that up for you and let me share that just so we can.

1182
01:08:40,060 --> 01:08:44,700
 All righty minimize that sorry there's a lot of different

1183
01:08:44,740 --> 01:08:47,800
 screens open, so I'm trying my best to share so I apologize

1184
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,720
 Sir, I know it's it's hard when you're remote to to make sure

1185
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:55,580
 you're seeing everything so so good.

1186
01:08:55,580 --> 01:08:58,460
 I wanted to make sure so this is our overall staff report that

1187
01:08:58,460 --> 01:09:01,960
 we've really worked through the process on the first item was

1188
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,520
 the construction sequence for Bonnie Bray and plan that plan

1189
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,460
 timing at 35 widening.

1190
01:09:07,460 --> 01:09:11,900
 I do believe that we have you know produce that information

1191
01:09:11,940 --> 01:09:14,740
 for you call me that presentation today there may be a

1192
01:09:14,740 --> 01:09:17,780
 few follow-up questions and what I would recommend is with

1193
01:09:17,780 --> 01:09:20,140
 those follow-up questions we just have that apart as a staff

1194
01:09:20,140 --> 01:09:24,340
 report next month. If you're in concurrence of that.

1195
01:09:24,340 --> 01:09:29,080
 >> I find that me other members any everybody not OK with that

1196
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:34,180
 they're shaking their heads and giving you a thumbs up so OK.

1197
01:09:34,180 --> 01:09:37,520
 >> As I could not possibly see that yes, Sir, I know I've been

1198
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,660
 on your side presenting and it is definitely difficult to see

1199
01:09:40,700 --> 01:09:45,940
 the Dias or on the paisley Street Roodell intersection

1200
01:09:45,940 --> 01:09:50,240
 questions. You know I think what we would bring back for you is

1201
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,000
 that actual

1202
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,240
 information you requested with the crash data just have that as

1203
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,380
 a part of that staff report.

1204
01:09:59,380 --> 01:10:03,360
 As the I'm sorry that that's specifically related to the item

1205
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,460
 that we just talked about which was Roodell so I'd like to

1206
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:11,620
 remove that simply because I'm.

1207
01:10:11,620 --> 01:10:13,660
 Well, you know.

1208
01:10:13,660 --> 01:10:17,100
 >> It's because we have a different item so councilmember

1209
01:10:17,100 --> 01:10:20,040
 bird that's the I'm sorry I saw Roodell and I immediately went

1210
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,140
 to that project that's listed for that later in the so my

1211
01:10:23,140 --> 01:10:26,740
 apologies that paisley Street Roodell Street intersection that

1212
01:10:26,740 --> 01:10:30,220
 was the curb project you asked us about that we gave that

1213
01:10:30,220 --> 01:10:33,040
 report on in November.

1214
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,020
 As 17th so we would like to request to remove that unless

1215
01:10:36,060 --> 01:10:42,120
 you have additional questions.

1216
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:48,760
 >> Your Mike's not on.

1217
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:58,080
 >> Your Mike's not on councilmember bird.

1218
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,940
 >> They're very difficult today to get.

1219
01:11:01,980 --> 01:11:06,440
 >> They're probably overused from last night.

1220
01:11:06,440 --> 01:11:12,260
 >> I'm sorry paisley Street in Roodell intersection curves.

1221
01:11:12,260 --> 01:11:16,200
 I don't see where they did that could be closed nothing's been

1222
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,060
 done in that area.

1223
01:11:18,060 --> 01:11:21,140
 >> Well, what we were asking is to remove it from the staff

1224
01:11:21,140 --> 01:11:23,660
 agenda because it was something that we discussed with you if

1225
01:11:23,660 --> 01:11:26,740
 you feel like we still need to do some additional information

1226
01:11:26,740 --> 01:11:29,500
 on it and we understood the concerns were working through

1227
01:11:29,540 --> 01:11:32,400
 that with other capital projects that are in that area if

1228
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,440
 there's something that you're asking additional for us to

1229
01:11:34,440 --> 01:11:37,840
 bring back other than what was put in the November a 17th

1230
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,140
 report that we wanted to make sure we brought that back to

1231
01:11:40,140 --> 01:11:42,280
 you if not we'd like to remove it from.

1232
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:46,480
 >> Yeah, I I just needed some clarification should as to you

1233
01:11:46,480 --> 01:11:51,760
 know why it's being moved so yeah sure yes, yes, ma'am.

1234
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,000
 >> All righty we will remove that from the agenda of course

1235
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,300
 that there's additional questions we're happy to answer

1236
01:11:56,340 --> 01:12:00,260
 those all right now moving on to item number 3 which was the

1237
01:12:00,260 --> 01:12:04,980
 Parkway locust intersection. Mayor protein, I understand

1238
01:12:04,980 --> 01:12:07,540
 you'd like to see some crash data when it was signalized when

1239
01:12:07,540 --> 01:12:10,240
 it was not signalized and then that current condition with

1240
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:14,220
 some time frames and we'll have to give us how long it's been

1241
01:12:14,220 --> 01:12:17,420
 with the this the 4 way stop condition always stop condition

1242
01:12:17,420 --> 01:12:20,460
 so we will bring that one back to you with that additional

1243
01:12:20,460 --> 01:12:25,460
 crash data. So the the 4th item the speeding concerns along

1244
01:12:25,500 --> 01:12:30,060
 Dallas dry were requesting also to remove that item as it's a

1245
01:12:30,060 --> 01:12:32,440
 part of the citywide speed study and will be further

1246
01:12:32,440 --> 01:12:36,340
 discussed during that August to September time frame.

1247
01:12:36,340 --> 01:12:41,300
 >> Objections.

1248
01:12:41,300 --> 01:12:44,520
 >> And then the final item is the redel Street widening

1249
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,240
 concerns we also are requesting to remove that one from the

1250
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:51,220
 agenda being that it will be a part of the April 19th tiny home

1251
01:12:51,260 --> 01:12:55,860
 discussion at that time as that's one of the the possible

1252
01:12:55,860 --> 01:12:58,020
 locations and we'll discuss that roadway project at that

1253
01:12:58,020 --> 01:13:00,300
 time.

1254
01:13:00,300 --> 01:13:04,700
 >> Objections I actually kind of do have an objection, I think

1255
01:13:04,700 --> 01:13:10,500
 that we need to have some information.

1256
01:13:10,500 --> 01:13:14,700
 Some more information about that before the April 19th, okay,

1257
01:13:14,700 --> 01:13:18,440
 sure what time information are you requesting I just you know,

1258
01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:23,180
 maybe not not for this committee necessarily, but if you can

1259
01:13:23,180 --> 01:13:26,280
 include in a Friday report prior to April 19th something

1260
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:32,220
 about you know what what the history of of that project is as

1261
01:13:32,220 --> 01:13:36,900
 far as the bond funding and the design phase that move forward

1262
01:13:36,900 --> 01:13:41,100
 and and where we're at now and you know visuals of what what

1263
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:44,540
 the proposed alignment is sure just so we can have that

1264
01:13:44,580 --> 01:13:49,520
 information going into the April 19th conversation because

1265
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,420
 you know full disclosure, I I suspect we may need to find a

1266
01:13:52,420 --> 01:13:55,620
 different location for that project but and and so we need

1267
01:13:55,620 --> 01:13:58,680
 to be prepared to have that conversation on April 19th.

1268
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,120
 >> Sure that absolutely we can do that so we'll remove it from

1269
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,460
 this agenda and then we'll include it in a future Friday

1270
01:14:03,460 --> 01:14:06,520
 report and we already have the majority of that information

1271
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,700
 prepared so that's that'll be very simple.

1272
01:14:09,700 --> 01:14:11,640
 >> And I don't know if it's a you know sort of asking too

1273
01:14:11,660 --> 01:14:14,800
 much around the scope or you know, it's just chill till the

1274
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:21,420
 19th, but the the part I'm most curious about curious about is

1275
01:14:21,420 --> 01:14:28,260
 not so as much the status of the funding planning, but the

1276
01:14:28,260 --> 01:14:33,120
 rationale for the project what what was compelling about it

1277
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:36,560
 and and what the alternatives.

1278
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:41,840
 >> Are yet if if any are needed, but like I said that may be

1279
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:47,500
 coming April 19th, but if you want to you know share any of

1280
01:14:47,500 --> 01:14:51,840
 that least the historical aspect why I was compelling.

1281
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:55,080
 You know that would be interesting to me.

1282
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,340
 >> But you know I I we certainly will and there's there really

1283
01:14:58,340 --> 01:15:00,380
 is a lot of history to it right because it was part of the

1284
01:15:00,380 --> 01:15:03,580
 2014 bond program we've had funding issues it's been it

1285
01:15:03,620 --> 01:15:07,560
 hasn't been a priority obviously in previous iterations so we

1286
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,760
 have a lot of history so I think we can walk it all the way

1287
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,600
 forward even in more detail of here's here's a rationale when

1288
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,200
 it was approved in 2014 here's been the considerations up to

1289
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,740
 this point and where we stand today, so I think that's a

1290
01:15:18,740 --> 01:15:21,180
 perfectly good exercise for us.

1291
01:15:21,180 --> 01:15:22,880
 >> Okay great.

1292
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,380
 >> I think I'll explain that why behind what you're asking

1293
01:15:25,380 --> 01:15:27,280
 mayor pritam so.

1294
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,540
 >> Super yes, sir. So you're about to ask if people have

1295
01:15:30,580 --> 01:15:34,120
 other items would like to introduce I am good guess,

1296
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:39,020
 yes, sir, yes, yes, sir, so are there any other items that

1297
01:15:39,020 --> 01:15:41,260
 mobility committee has that they'd like to bring forward for

1298
01:15:41,260 --> 01:15:44,900
 us to discuss at the future meeting.

1299
01:15:44,900 --> 01:15:50,900
 >> It would be there would you would dear would yeah, sure if

1300
01:15:50,900 --> 01:15:54,100
 we could have a conversation about that in the future there

1301
01:15:54,140 --> 01:16:01,140
 would kings row. You know in light of the complications

1302
01:16:01,140 --> 01:16:04,480
 that we're going to be encountering soon.

1303
01:16:04,480 --> 01:16:06,380
 >> That's not a problem.

1304
01:16:06,380 --> 01:16:08,680
 >> And I you know, I think having that discussion prior to

1305
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,220
 that small area plan prioritization will be good too

1306
01:16:11,220 --> 01:16:13,020
 in advance of them.

1307
01:16:13,020 --> 01:16:15,860
 >> Yeah, great.

1308
01:16:15,860 --> 01:16:18,060
 >> Anything else anyone else.

1309
01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:26,300
 >> I just want to make sure that I'm on the right track.

1310
01:16:26,300 --> 01:16:32,040
 >> And also the through through lanes are through

1311
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,620
 neighborhood, the Southeast neighborhood.

1312
01:16:35,620 --> 01:16:39,420
 They were having issues in regards to trucks coming

1313
01:16:39,420 --> 01:16:43,720
 through to get over to business that are over on Duncan Street.

1314
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:47,360
 Yes, ma'am and they're missing that turn and they're going

1315
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,960
 to have to go back and look for that turn to get over there.

1316
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,940
 So I guess we'll need some kind of update on that.

1317
01:16:53,940 --> 01:16:56,600
 >> Sure we can do that and we have made some modifications in

1318
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,600
 that area, but if we're still receiving the same complaints.

1319
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:03,420
 We will work with Daniel Kramer screw. So yes, ma'am okay.

1320
01:17:03,420 --> 01:17:08,480
 >> Also I know for sure that a sign needs to be replaced or

1321
01:17:08,480 --> 01:17:12,520
 cleansed. When you make when you're coming up on Dallas

1322
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,720
 Drive and you're going north on Dallas Drive. You make that

1323
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:21,360
 left turn into Duncan Street and then there's a sign on the

1324
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:26,240
 side of the road that says Duncan Street and then it says

1325
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:33,200
 Shady Oaks, Shady Oaks. No way down. And then there's a sign

1326
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,640
 that says Duncan Street right there for you know visitors to

1327
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,040
 make that left turn into Duncan Street. It's just corroded.

1328
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,180
 I don't know. You can't see it. And so maybe that might be

1329
01:17:43,220 --> 01:17:47,080
 when appears to be fairly small where maybe our drivers could

1330
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,420
 actually look to see where Duncan Street is. It might be

1331
01:17:50,420 --> 01:17:51,500
 very helpful.

1332
01:17:51,500 --> 01:17:54,860
 >> Sure, James is here today. I know he's listening. So

1333
01:17:54,860 --> 01:17:57,560
 definitely will will look into that item. That's not a problem.

1334
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,360
 >> All right. Thank you. That's the only thing I have.

1335
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:05,640
 >> Mayor, kind of a follow on you know, Councilmember Byrd has

1336
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:09,080
 asked over the months, you know, but different specific

1337
01:18:09,100 --> 01:18:13,240
 streets in Southeast Deton. But then we have this 2 minute

1338
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:18,760
 pitch from the mayor about how do we look at Southeast Deton

1339
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:25,000
 speed. And I just that got approved and I'm just curious

1340
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,460
 to know what does that entail then? Is that something

1341
01:18:28,460 --> 01:18:33,060
 different? I mean, is that different from the citywide

1342
01:18:33,060 --> 01:18:37,840
 speed study? What would the next steps be on that?

1343
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:39,900
 >> Sure, we're currently working through that process

1344
01:18:39,900 --> 01:18:43,980
 with the public works team streets operations, Daniel

1345
01:18:43,980 --> 01:18:47,880
 Kramer and Ethan Cox, general manager, really coordinating

1346
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:51,060
 that effort. We also want to make mention of those roadways

1347
01:18:51,060 --> 01:18:54,520
 that are going to be a part of the citywide speed study. So

1348
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,220
 that we have that recollection and knowledge to share with

1349
01:18:57,220 --> 01:19:00,120
 y'all of the information that we're going to be collecting in

1350
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:04,140
 that area. But that is something that's being worked on

1351
01:19:04,140 --> 01:19:06,700
 through that process. So it's something we will have to bring

1352
01:19:06,740 --> 01:19:10,400
 back to you when we're ready. We're not quite ready yet with

1353
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,140
 that level of detail and level of information. We could

1354
01:19:13,140 --> 01:19:15,680
 possibly be ready for the next mobility committee meeting. And

1355
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:19,880
 if so, we'll bring that forward as an individual item. If not,

1356
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,680
 it would be at one of the following meetings after that

1357
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,060
 timeframe.

1358
01:19:24,060 --> 01:19:26,780
 >> Okay, great. Just so we get, you know, whatever degree of

1359
01:19:26,780 --> 01:19:30,960
 update you're prepared to give, you know, when we get together.

1360
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,300
 >> Yes, sir.

1361
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:37,340
 >> That's all I've got. So unless there's anything else,

1362
01:19:37,340 --> 01:19:41,000
 last call. We'll go to concluding items. You could

1363
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,240
 make whatever your last thing is that you just thought of a

1364
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,780
 concluding item. Anyone?

1365
01:19:46,780 --> 01:19:49,880
 >> Nothing.

1366
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,880
 >> All right. Thank you, everyone. And Billy, thank you

1367
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,580
 very much for accommodating me being remote.

1368
01:19:56,580 --> 01:19:58,880
 >> Absolutely, sir. Have a nice day.

1369
01:19:58,880 --> 01:19:59,720
 >> Have a good week.

1370
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:01,160
 >> Bye-bye.