WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.000 I need a few minutes to go over those. 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:08.500 So I'm like to give a motion. I move to approve the minutes 00:00:08.500 --> 00:00:11.000 . I second. All in favor. 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:17.809 Hi. Okay. Next item will be we're receiving a report and 00:00:17.809 --> 00:00:19.000 having a discussion on. 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:22.239 You want to skip the season's we have people. Can you 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:25.000 announce that we have a quorum and then. Oh, I'm sorry. 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:30.870 We do have a quorum here this evening. Okay. I'm going to 00:00:30.870 --> 00:00:32.000 be. 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:34.759 Receive a report and hold a discussion on no parking any 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:38.000 time restriction on the south side of Congress Street from 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:40.000 Bolivar to Carol. 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:47.000 Thank you, Chair. My name is free time. 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:51.869 I'm the traffic engineer for the city and the item, the 00:00:51.869 --> 00:00:56.590 first item I'm talking about is has been on the matrix for 00:00:56.590 --> 00:00:59.000 a while and it's been talked. 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:04.010 It has not been an open item discussed and I think we got 00:01:04.010 --> 00:01:09.140 into some deep discussion last time and I think we got 00:01:09.140 --> 00:01:12.290 pulled out by tracing that something has to be in the 00:01:12.290 --> 00:01:13.000 agenda. 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:17.219 So right now this item is just for discussion purposes. We 00:01:17.219 --> 00:01:22.299 need to get some feedback as to how we can proceed and how 00:01:22.299 --> 00:01:28.000 do we want to proceed in the future regarding such issues. 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:33.590 This is parking along Congress Street. Congress Street 00:01:33.590 --> 00:01:40.000 between Carol Boulevard and Bolivar is real is narrow as 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:42.000 compared to the rest of the one up until. 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:49.750 But between Carol and Bolivar, it's width is approximately 00:01:49.750 --> 00:01:53.000 29, 29 feet. 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:58.530 And I think what's happening there is if you look at both 00:01:58.530 --> 00:02:03.140 the corners, there are some commercial parking lots and 00:02:03.140 --> 00:02:10.000 especially 7 Mile Cafe has a lot of parked cars and patrons 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:11.000 that visit this. 00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:15.310 These businesses have on street parking is used by those 00:02:15.310 --> 00:02:19.800 patrons as well as there are some residential houses on the 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:21.000 north side. 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:25.449 So this stretch of Congress between Bolivar and Carol gets 00:02:25.449 --> 00:02:27.000 pretty crowded. 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:29.000 You can't see that on the aerial right now. 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:33.250 But if you get down to the street level, you can see there 00:02:33.250 --> 00:02:37.629 's barely any space to move around when two cars are really 00:02:37.629 --> 00:02:40.000 parked next to each other. 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:49.379 So typically what is required by a fire code is we need 26 00:02:49.379 --> 00:02:55.689 feet of street width minimum if we are allowing parking on 00:02:55.689 --> 00:02:59.840 one side of the street and 32 feet if we allow parking on 00:02:59.840 --> 00:03:01.000 both sides. 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:04.680 Currently, parking is allowed on both sides of the street 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:06.000 for this segment. 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:09.219 And this is where the issue is, it's 29 feet wide but the 00:03:09.219 --> 00:03:11.000 minimum required is 32. 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:14.289 What the fire code takes into account is 6 feet parking on 00:03:14.289 --> 00:03:18.039 either side, which is 12 feet and then 20 foot fire lane in 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:19.000 the middle. 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:22.000 So that's why it's 32 is required. 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:23.000 We only have 29. 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:28.189 And in order for this street to function properly or 00:03:28.189 --> 00:03:34.000 provide access to emergency vehicles, we need to either 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:40.159 restrict parking on one side or, you know, think of other 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:45.139 solutions as far as how we can have certain sections 00:03:45.139 --> 00:03:48.379 restricted so that people can actually get enough passing 00:03:48.379 --> 00:03:49.000 distance. 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:51.650 Not the whole entire stretch but enough passing distance 00:03:51.650 --> 00:03:53.000 for emergency vehicles. 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:56.000 So it is a discussion item. 00:03:56.000 --> 00:04:01.689 We don't expect any decision on your behalf but we would 00:04:01.689 --> 00:04:04.000 like to talk about. 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:08.000 There are a lot of these requests to us. 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:12.270 And as part of the small area plan near UNT that's 00:04:12.270 --> 00:04:17.540 currently under study, they will look at issues like this 00:04:17.540 --> 00:04:22.720 around the UNT area but there are certain pockets outside 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:26.730 of UNT area and this is a good example, Congress between 00:04:26.730 --> 00:04:32.000 Carol and Bolivar, that we're experiencing such issues. 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:35.959 And part of the reason is the type of land use that's at 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:38.000 the corner right there. 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:42.910 But if we get direction from commission tonight, we can 00:04:42.910 --> 00:04:48.420 move forward, notify all the business owners, residents to 00:04:48.420 --> 00:04:53.160 come in the next meeting, hear what they have to see and 00:04:53.160 --> 00:04:56.000 then move this item forward. 00:04:56.000 --> 00:05:01.180 And so I can, that's the end of my presentation but I think 00:05:01.180 --> 00:05:05.000 if you have any questions I'll answer. 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:08.000 >> So next course of action we run a meeting. 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:11.899 >> Next course of action we will notify the residents as 00:05:11.899 --> 00:05:16.009 well as the businesses about where the commission will be 00:05:16.009 --> 00:05:20.370 considering parking restrictions either on one side or some 00:05:20.370 --> 00:05:24.000 options or some type and have feedback from them. 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:26.870 At which point we'll recommend, we'll recommend staff will 00:05:26.870 --> 00:05:29.709 recommend restricting parking on one side based on the fire 00:05:29.709 --> 00:05:30.000 . 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:32.259 >> Is there a particular side that's going to be more 00:05:32.259 --> 00:05:33.000 favorable? 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:35.000 >> That's a very good question. 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:38.899 That's something that we need to get feedback from the 00:05:38.899 --> 00:05:40.000 residents. 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:43.639 I'm pretty sure the residents that live on the north side 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:50.569 want their side but again, that's why we need some feedback 00:05:50.569 --> 00:05:51.000 . 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:54.449 >> Sorry, did you just? >> Well, I just, it maybe makes 00:05:54.449 --> 00:05:56.139 sense for people to be closing, parking on the side where 00:05:56.139 --> 00:05:59.000 the businesses are because that's where they're going to. 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:00.000 I think that maybe would be clear. 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:01.000 I don't know. 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:03.000 But I agree, it's really, it gets really crowded. 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:08.000 >> It does get crowded. 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:14.019 The options you were describing, I think you said something 00:06:14.019 --> 00:06:19.660 about being able to either prohibit parking on one side or 00:06:19.660 --> 00:06:22.019 the other, but you also said maybe there are some other 00:06:22.019 --> 00:06:26.339 types of ways that could be addressed that would allow the 00:06:26.339 --> 00:06:29.000 passage of larger vehicles such as a fire vehicle. 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:32.000 What are those other ways you're thinking of? 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:33.000 >> Correct. 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:37.230 One of the things that we worked with the fire department 00:06:37.230 --> 00:06:41.829 on Texas Street is anything that's 150 feet from these 00:06:41.829 --> 00:06:46.000 cross streets where they really have enough access. 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:50.339 So 150 feet from here as well as here, it's okay not to 00:06:50.339 --> 00:06:54.610 restrict any parking but restrict parking in the middle of 00:06:54.610 --> 00:06:59.329 the street between the 250 feet because they can actually 00:06:59.329 --> 00:07:03.000 serve 150 feet from the side streets. 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:05.189 So there would be a smaller area that would require 00:07:05.189 --> 00:07:06.000 restriction. 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:09.750 That way if they have to deploy a vehicle, if they have to, 00:07:09.750 --> 00:07:12.819 if you look at fire trucks, I think it's more of a 00:07:12.819 --> 00:07:16.519 deployment space that they need 20 feet when they are 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:20.600 addressing, you know, any fires or emergencies in this 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:24.629 particular area or neighborhood for businesses or even 00:07:24.629 --> 00:07:27.000 residents and businesses north and south of Congress. 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:31.800 So in order for them to deploy is more important as opposed 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:36.000 to getting the vehicle through into this area. 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:40.240 So we can look at options as, you know, we can not restrict 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:44.240 parking towards the end closer to the business but then 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:48.000 allow restriction in the middle of the street. 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:52.959 >> Then if we did that, we would, because how far back is 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:56.000 it 20 feet from a stop sign? 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:57.000 >> 30 feet. 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:58.000 >> 30 feet from a stop sign. 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:02.480 And you said that that way you could allow 150 feet of 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:07.170 parking but then that would mean you've got 120 feet of 00:08:07.170 --> 00:08:10.000 parking just kind of at each end. 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:13.000 >> That is right. 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:21.000 So we're talking about 10 cars, I mean 20, yeah. 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:24.000 >> And then no parking in the middle of the street. 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:26.000 >> No parking in the middle of the street. 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:28.000 We haven't looked at all the options. 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:32.000 It's just an open discussion at this point. 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:35.000 But we will look at options when we come back. 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:37.049 >> When I think the question is if we, you know, remove 00:08:37.049 --> 00:08:39.000 parking there, where does it push parking to? 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:42.809 And I would think Boulevard Street, right, and probably 00:08:42.809 --> 00:08:46.860 towards, you know, heading south towards Boulevard Street 00:08:46.860 --> 00:08:49.000 is probably where we'll see it. 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:51.220 And usually there's space there, but is that, there's 00:08:51.220 --> 00:08:53.309 parking on both sides all the way along that street, 00:08:53.309 --> 00:08:54.000 correct? 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:54.000 >> Correct. 00:08:54.000 --> 00:09:00.000 Boulevard is, yeah, parking on both sides. 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:01.000 >> I mean, and people may now. 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:03.000 >> I think it's no parking on the west side. 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:04.000 >> It is on one side. 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:05.000 >> Oh, okay. 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:09.000 >> Yeah, west side's no parking. 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.120 >> Yeah, and cars, even with the situation now, cars will 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:12.000 back up all the way. 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:15.549 Actually, if you go back to that street view, cars will 00:09:15.549 --> 00:09:19.019 back up fairly close to, I don't know, what's the next 00:09:19.019 --> 00:09:21.000 street on the south there? 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:22.000 Is that? 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:23.000 >> It's Parkway, I think. 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:24.000 >> Parkway. 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:27.500 Yeah, they'll get kind of close to it, so, but it's not too 00:09:27.500 --> 00:09:28.000 far. 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:33.529 I've never seen it go all the way back to Parkway, but it 00:09:33.529 --> 00:09:36.000 gets somewhat close. 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:38.509 >> So yeah, that's, those are the pros and cons we need to 00:09:38.509 --> 00:09:39.000 look at. 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:43.480 Also, if you remove on-street parking, that will reduce the 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:46.000 friction of driving vehicles. 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:49.700 That means the speeds might go up a little bit, and there's 00:09:49.700 --> 00:09:54.200 always a give and take if you do one thing, there are going 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:56.000 to be consequences. 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:57.000 >> Yeah. 00:09:57.000 --> 00:10:02.000 >> Casca, there was a little, the curb, I think, cut there, 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:05.000 and there was a little drive that seemed to go to nowhere. 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:09.460 Could like the, is that something that that property owns, 00:10:09.460 --> 00:10:13.000 or it seems like up to the business, if yeah. 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:17.000 No, not there, further, yeah, further south over here. 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:19.590 I think right up here, there's a spot, yeah, where you can 00:10:19.590 --> 00:10:20.000 see. 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:22.000 >> Yeah, this is a curb way that goes into this. 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:23.000 >> Can you turn it a little more? 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:27.000 I think it's even further, yeah, go back to the left. 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:30.000 Yeah, keep going to the left. 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:31.000 >> This way? 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.000 >> No, no, no, other way, other way. 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:35.309 I think down there, if you look by that car, see right 00:10:35.309 --> 00:10:37.000 there, past the sign right there? 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:39.000 Okay, that does go into the lot, okay. 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:41.000 >> Yeah, I think it is the gate that opens up. 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:48.000 >> Okay, I couldn't tell from the angle. 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:50.000 >> I'm not sure, I mean, I do want to see this come back, 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:53.490 and I do think we need to restrict parking, but I've 00:10:53.490 --> 00:10:57.000 noticed that the Chamber of Commerce parking lot, 00:10:57.000 --> 00:11:01.179 particularly on Sunday mornings when Seven Mile is packed, 00:11:01.179 --> 00:11:05.000 the Chamber of Commerce parking lot is underutilized. 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:10.059 And so when we move, since I think we should move to some 00:11:10.059 --> 00:11:13.000 type of parking restriction, 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:18.000 then I think that we should do a better job of advertising 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:23.000 the Chamber of Commerce lot so that people are aware. 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:26.570 I know that the cupboard already has signs that that's 00:11:26.570 --> 00:11:31.000 cupboard parking only over there, which is absolutely fair. 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:33.700 But I've also noticed people driving around trying to find 00:11:33.700 --> 00:11:36.269 a place but completely forgetting about the Chamber of 00:11:36.269 --> 00:11:37.000 Commerce. 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.000 >> Which lot is that? 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:42.000 >> The one that's on Carroll Boulevard. 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:43.000 >> This one? 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:45.000 >> Mm-hm. 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:47.590 >> Is that something the city's done before, has done 00:11:47.590 --> 00:11:51.000 little signs that are directions both from the parking lot 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:52.000 and two other places? 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:54.929 Because we had a, I know a group of citizens were just 00:11:54.929 --> 00:11:59.000 together talking about local traffic safety issues. 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:02.220 And one of the things people brought up is how underutil 00:12:02.220 --> 00:12:06.250 ized that the lot at Carroll, just south on Carroll and Hick 00:12:06.250 --> 00:12:07.000 ory is. 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:10.000 There's that huge lot where the- >> County lot? 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:12.000 >> Yeah, is that a county lot? 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:15.000 >> Yeah. >> Where, and that's where the Saturday morning 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:15.000 stuff is. 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:17.529 But the rest of the time that lot is like 90% almost all 00:12:17.529 --> 00:12:18.000 empty. 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:20.509 And we talked about how that's a five minute walk to the 00:12:20.509 --> 00:12:23.000 center of the square, but very few people know. 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:26.000 And just another example, maybe how some signs that say, 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.610 you know, even just saying on that lot, five minutes to 00:12:28.610 --> 00:12:29.000 square, 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:31.340 and encouraging people to start using it who always tell me 00:12:31.340 --> 00:12:33.000 there's no parking near the square. 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:36.000 There's that huge lot that's almost always empty. 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:38.000 >> I think we have to be careful. 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:42.389 We advertise it because I'm not sure if we can say if it's 00:12:42.389 --> 00:12:44.000 city parking lot, we can say that. 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:48.000 But if it's not public property, if it's privately owned, 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:52.000 then it becomes an issue as to where we're directing people 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:53.000 to go park. 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:56.289 For example, this chamber's, chamber of commerce lot, I don 00:12:56.289 --> 00:12:58.000 't know if we can actually, 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:01.559 that might be a legal thing that we look at is can we 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:04.000 direct public parking there? 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:07.129 >> The chamber is supported by the city of Denton as we 00:13:07.129 --> 00:13:08.000 know it is. 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:09.000 >> Okay. >> Okay. 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:11.000 >> So that might be an option. 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:15.000 >> There is a map that economic development put together. 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:18.220 It's just for the downtown area though that has parking and 00:13:18.220 --> 00:13:20.000 like how long it will take you to walk there. 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:21.000 >> Oh, that's great. 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:22.000 >> Five minutes, ten minutes. 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:24.549 I think the chamber of commerce has it on their website as 00:13:24.549 --> 00:13:25.000 well. 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:27.000 I don't know if their parking lot is included. 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:30.259 I haven't checked it that closely, but there is a map 00:13:30.259 --> 00:13:32.000 available that tells you what parking lots are available 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:34.000 and how long it will take you to walk them to the square. 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:36.000 >> That should be an app. 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:37.000 >> Yeah. 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:39.639 >> Is that something we could take up is discussing 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:42.000 something like signage and the possibilities? 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:43.659 Because I have seen that, you see that in a lot of downtown 00:13:43.659 --> 00:13:47.000 areas, signage to different areas that tell you this 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:47.000 direction 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:49.000 and even tell you walk on the street. 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:50.000 >> There are parking signs. 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:51.000 >> Yeah. 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:52.000 >> We have parking signs. 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:55.169 >> But also direction signs that are really service like 00:13:55.169 --> 00:13:57.000 advertisements for busy areas. 00:13:57.000 --> 00:13:59.000 I haven't seen any of those. 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:03.000 >> I think we're done engineering the way finding program. 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:06.840 So we're done with what signage, with branding we want to 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:10.000 do and they are implementing now as we speak. 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:14.000 So you'll soon start seeing that program being implemented. 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:18.000 But we did go through the whole design and branding effort 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:20.000 for way finding signage. 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:24.000 >> Anything else on Congress, on this street here? 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:28.000 Any more questions? 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:32.000 Move on to the next item. 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:35.139 >> I have a question in my direction regarding installation 00:14:35.139 --> 00:14:38.169 of additional pavement markings to address speeding 00:14:38.169 --> 00:14:41.000 concerns along Mack Drive between McKinney and Paisley. 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:42.000 >> All right. 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:43.000 >> McKinney and Paisley. 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:51.000 >> Let me zoom out and get to this location. 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:57.799 So we're talking about this segment of Mack Drive between 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:00.000 McKinney and Paisley. 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:03.690 If you look at this particular segment, which is Audreau 00:15:03.690 --> 00:15:08.389 Lane in this area, this is our main arterial in the area, 00:15:08.389 --> 00:15:14.000 but Mack Drive currently functions as a collector street. 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:18.779 And we received a couple of concerns from a resident 00:15:18.779 --> 00:15:23.909 talking about speed and how Mack Drive is being used as a 00:15:23.909 --> 00:15:29.570 cut through, especially during peak hours to get to Paisley 00:15:29.570 --> 00:15:32.000 and north of Paisley. 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:35.639 And one of the things is this Lee Elementary is right at 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:38.000 the corner of Paisley and Mack. 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:42.590 So once we received complaints, we conducted a speed survey 00:15:42.590 --> 00:15:47.629 and the 85th percentile speed is not about 30 miles an hour 00:15:47.629 --> 00:15:48.000 . 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:52.000 So we looked at two days worth of data. 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:55.549 I know it's not a whole lot and we'll do something more 00:15:55.549 --> 00:16:00.000 when the school starts, but it was under 30 miles an hour. 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:05.379 And what we thought, since this is a school zone area, it 00:16:05.379 --> 00:16:10.759 might be a better idea to do some sort of pavement markings 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:14.000 to define and identify lanes. 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:18.710 If you currently look at how wide the street is, it's 00:16:18.710 --> 00:16:22.000 between 38 and 40 feet. 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:26.120 And when you're actually driving on it without any parked 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:29.970 cars, it feels like an open area that you can just be in 00:16:29.970 --> 00:16:34.000 the middle of the street and drive at a higher speed. 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:41.000 So what we're looking at or staff is recommending is start, 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:44.740 it would be a phase process and we'll look at different 00:16:44.740 --> 00:16:45.000 options. 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:48.889 The first thing is start with double yellow line in the 00:16:48.889 --> 00:16:52.000 center and stripe a center yellow line. 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:55.690 And then if needed, if we still continue to see later in 00:16:55.690 --> 00:16:59.629 the year that there are still speeding concerns and if we 00:16:59.629 --> 00:17:04.420 think that the speed is getting closer to 30 miles an hour 00:17:04.420 --> 00:17:05.000 or higher, 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:09.000 then we might end up striping the parking lanes. 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:13.690 And something similar was done on Nottingham, which was a 00:17:13.690 --> 00:17:15.000 wide street. 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:17.000 I think Nottingham was 44 feet wide. 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:20.000 This is close to 40 feet. 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:31.000 And on Nottingham, let me just zoom in if it allows me to. 00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:34.829 So if you see, this is the parking lane where cars are 00:17:34.829 --> 00:17:39.029 parked on either side and then there was a little space for 00:17:39.029 --> 00:17:40.000 buffer. 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:42.000 I think those were two foot buffers on either side. 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:44.000 And then there was a center yellow line. 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:48.519 So something similar type of marking eventually will happen 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:51.000 if we don't see any reduction. 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:54.500 But this has helped a lot in this area and people actually 00:17:54.500 --> 00:17:56.000 stick to their lane. 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:59.339 They don't -- before it was an open pavement, everyone was 00:17:59.339 --> 00:18:01.000 traveling at high speed. 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:04.000 Now they tend to remain in their lane and not go into it. 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:07.710 So we have seen reductions and research has shown that 00:18:07.710 --> 00:18:09.000 speed reduces. 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:13.660 So that's why staff has recommended that we move forward 00:18:13.660 --> 00:18:18.039 with striping the double yellow for now and then parking 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:20.000 lanes if required striping. 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:23.769 The reason this was also included here is I wanted to give 00:18:23.769 --> 00:18:27.750 an opportunity if there are any residents that want to come 00:18:27.750 --> 00:18:29.000 in and talk about anything. 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:31.000 >> Yeah, like two people signed up. 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:32.000 >> Okay. 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:37.450 So that way we get to hear from them and we can go for that 00:18:37.450 --> 00:18:39.000 from there. 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:41.000 >> Okay. 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:46.640 >> Back up toward Lee School, is it a flashing light or is 00:18:46.640 --> 00:18:52.400 it just a sign that says 20 miles an hour during school 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:54.000 hours there? 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:57.000 Do they have a flashing light there or is it just a sign? 00:18:57.000 --> 00:18:58.000 >> You mean a school zone? 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:00.000 >> Right. 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:04.000 >> Good question. 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:06.000 I think it's just a sign, but let me confirm. 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:07.000 >> That's what I remember. 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:15.000 >> Yeah, there is no school zone. 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:19.000 It must be before this. 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:24.000 Yeah, this is the sign. 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:25.000 Speed limit 20. 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:28.359 So there is no flashing light, it's just a sign, but this 00:19:28.359 --> 00:19:31.930 defines, actually defines that in that area the speed limit 00:19:31.930 --> 00:19:34.000 is down to 20 miles an hour. 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:37.880 So right when the school property begins, that's when that 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:39.000 zone starts. 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:44.720 So yeah, we haven't necessarily received any complaints 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:47.000 from the school yet. 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:53.799 So we'll talk to them and see if there are any issues that 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:56.000 they've noticed. 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:57.000 >> Okay. 00:19:57.000 --> 00:20:01.140 Yeah, but a couple of people that are going to speak, first 00:20:01.140 --> 00:20:04.000 we'll call up Patricia St. Helene. 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:05.000 Yes, ma'am. 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:08.339 You need to be close to the microphone since this is a 00:20:08.339 --> 00:20:12.119 recorded meeting and state your name and address and we'll 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:14.000 give you three minutes. 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:20.000 >> Hi, I'm Patricia St. Helene on the 305 Mack Drive. 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:22.519 I don't know who you were turning when they went, but they 00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:24.000 speed through there so fast. 00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:25.000 There's children. 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:30.000 I've gotten hit by just the car turning the corner. 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:34.170 I live 150 feet from a stop sign and got hit to pull toward 00:20:34.170 --> 00:20:37.000 and pull and park by the side of my curb. 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:41.000 My son's car parked on the curb there. 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:45.250 People flying down that hill and ran right into him and he 00:20:45.250 --> 00:20:47.000 was a drunk driver. 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:50.460 Plus the person in the house in front of me has gotten 00:20:50.460 --> 00:20:52.000 their vehicle hit. 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:55.029 Even the one single car garages have three cars sitting in 00:20:55.029 --> 00:20:59.000 their driveways because we're so in fear of our cars 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:00.000 getting hit out there. 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:02.940 And I mean they turn the corner and it's just like he 00:21:02.940 --> 00:21:04.000 demonstrated. 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:05.000 It's fair game. 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:08.000 They just step on the gas and when they're coming down, 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:12.000 they're going as fast as they can so nobody can get in on 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:14.720 these intermittent streets and there's children that play 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:16.000 out there too. 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:19.289 And the one that hit my son's car almost hit the gentleman 00:21:19.289 --> 00:21:21.000 up the street's children. 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:23.759 So and we caught the guy by everybody being out and 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:27.250 witnessing this and I've talked to all of my neighbors and 00:21:27.250 --> 00:21:31.420 they want something pleased to be done before somebody gets 00:21:31.420 --> 00:21:32.000 hurt. 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:33.000 Thank you. 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:35.000 Thank you. 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:43.000 The next Michael Montgomery. 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:44.000 Good evening. 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:46.000 Michael Montgomery 2013 Summer Wind Court. 00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:49.049 I live right at the corner of the first cul-de-sac off of 00:21:49.049 --> 00:21:50.000 Mack Drive. 00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:52.619 Just really to echo what she said really the topography 00:21:52.619 --> 00:21:55.000 from the elementary school down to McKinney. 00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:57.000 It's a pretty steep grade along with two. 00:21:57.000 --> 00:21:59.000 It's almost a little bit of an S curve. 00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:01.559 So I do think that double yellow line would really help 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:04.000 especially with the right of way being so wide. 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:05.000 So appreciate it. 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:05.000 All right. 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:07.000 Thank you. 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:12.000 So we're just. 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:14.000 Are we just recommend that you go ahead. 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:15.000 Yes. 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:16.000 Forward with your paint. 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:17.000 Great. 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:23.000 Does anyone have any other discussion. 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:25.000 I don't think we need a motion for that one. 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:26.000 No. 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:32.809 Then finally we have a report in the discussion and make a 00:22:32.809 --> 00:22:36.500 recommendation to city council to authorize traffic 00:22:36.500 --> 00:22:40.480 engineers to restrict parking in front of the bus stops 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:42.000 within city limits. 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:44.000 We actually get a recommendation on the last one. 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:48.000 Well it didn't ask. 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:50.000 But let's back up. 00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:52.000 It's OK. 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:54.109 Just provide your recommended approval of installing 00:22:54.109 --> 00:22:55.000 payment markings. 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:56.000 So yes. 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:58.000 Does the committee. 00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:01.000 I would motion for approval. 00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:04.000 Moving forward striping the lanes. 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:05.000 Second. 00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:06.000 Second. 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:07.000 All in favor. 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:12.000 Aye. 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:15.000 Thank you. 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:17.000 All right. 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:18.000 Item D. 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:19.000 Item D. 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:20.000 Is. 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:23.000 Let me move out of here. 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:26.859 There's no specific location but I do want to show one that 00:23:26.859 --> 00:23:28.000 was in there. 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:30.000 We're here. 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:33.000 This item deals with bus stops. 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:35.000 DCTA. 00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:39.420 Last late last year they commissioned the study to look at 00:23:39.420 --> 00:23:44.000 their operation of all their buses and trains and find out 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:46.890 you know operationally are there any efficiencies that can 00:23:46.890 --> 00:23:48.000 be improved. 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:50.210 Are there any changes that can be made and how they are 00:23:50.210 --> 00:23:51.000 functioning. 00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:56.769 Based on that study they they decided to come up with new 00:23:56.769 --> 00:24:01.940 bus routes as well as change some of the old routes 00:24:01.940 --> 00:24:07.630 slightly to capture more passengers as well as cover all 00:24:07.630 --> 00:24:09.000 the routes that they have. 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:11.000 They see a demand and growth. 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:15.500 And so based on that they came back and early this year 00:24:15.500 --> 00:24:20.440 they applied for permits and new bus stops within the city 00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:23.000 and all these were issued. 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:28.000 What happened at certain locations primarily on residential 00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:32.890 streets and smaller streets and collectors that parking was 00:24:32.890 --> 00:24:37.599 already available and curbside parking on street parking 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:40.000 was allowed and then a bus stop was installed there. 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:46.140 What happens is you have people that don't really want to 00:24:46.140 --> 00:24:52.160 change how they function on a day to day basis and people 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:58.000 still continue parking in front of the bus stops. 00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:01.900 As a result of that DCTA buses were not able to get closer 00:25:01.900 --> 00:25:03.000 to the curb. 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:06.000 They had to stop in the traffic lanes. 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:11.119 And worst effect impact was the ADA ramps that the buses 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:16.359 put out or even the kneeling down of the buses or lowering 00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:18.000 of the buses. 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:22.000 That was not possible because there was no curb to get on. 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:27.000 So that all these things are impacting the bus stops. 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:31.910 And what we're requesting here is we did talk to the city 00:25:31.910 --> 00:25:37.140 attorney's office about what's the best way of addressing 00:25:37.140 --> 00:25:38.000 this. 00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:39.000 Do we need a new ordinance? 00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:42.000 Do we need minor modifications? 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:46.269 And I think what was suggested is the best option at this 00:25:46.269 --> 00:25:50.250 time is to modify the municipal code as it exists and 00:25:50.250 --> 00:25:55.160 change the authority of the traffic engineer to include a 00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:56.000 receipt of the bus stop. 00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:59.640 To include restricting parking or creating parking zones in 00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:01.000 front of bus stops. 00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:06.000 So it's a minor change as it looks. 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:12.849 >> I would call it item number four under 18-3B where it 00:26:12.849 --> 00:26:19.559 says establish parking zones of such kind and character and 00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:25.599 at such places as he may deem advisable for solid waste 00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:29.000 containers and a bus stop. 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:37.400 So what a bus would require anywhere between 40 to 60 feet 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:44.000 to come in and have that area cleared of parking. 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:47.779 And it won't be implemented on all the bus stops only at 00:26:47.779 --> 00:26:52.000 locations where we start getting complaints from DCTA. 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:57.190 So it won't be a whitewash or an application throughout the 00:26:57.190 --> 00:26:58.000 city. 00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:01.250 We won't go out on oak and start doing this in front of and 00:27:01.250 --> 00:27:03.000 start removing parking. 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:06.589 But if DCTA feels that some of these bus stops really need 00:27:06.589 --> 00:27:10.140 access and we need access to those, then those are the ones 00:27:10.140 --> 00:27:12.000 that will be based on their needs. 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:19.000 So we -- it's not something that would be applied citywide. 00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:23.200 So what I'm requesting is clarify the municipal code so the 00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:27.329 committee would recommend this for moving forward and we 00:27:27.329 --> 00:27:31.289 will take this as an ordinance to the city council in the 00:27:31.289 --> 00:27:35.000 next meeting and change the municipal code. 00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:38.000 So that's what is recommended. 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:42.000 If you have any questions. 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:46.569 >> Will you recommend -- so sometimes -- I'm sure that the 00:27:46.569 --> 00:27:50.960 DCTA drivers are very alert to difficulties for their 00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:52.000 riders. 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:56.650 But if a citizen notices a stop that needs to have the 00:27:56.650 --> 00:28:01.990 parking removed and the DCTA has not recommended it yet, 00:28:01.990 --> 00:28:06.019 can the citizen come to the city to ask or should the 00:28:06.019 --> 00:28:10.000 citizen go through the DCTA to have them make the ask? 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:12.359 >> I think we're open to having an open dialogue with 00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:13.000 everyone. 00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:16.000 So once the resident approaches us, that's fine. 00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:19.680 We can just contact DCTA and get a response and feedback 00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:23.750 from them as to, you know, what do the drivers normally see 00:28:23.750 --> 00:28:24.000 ? 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:26.890 Is it completely blocked all the time or is it certain 00:28:26.890 --> 00:28:28.000 times of the day? 00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:31.279 So that way we can work with them to reduce the parking 00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:32.000 impact. 00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:38.000 So that's how we normally work on it. 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:41.829 >> Could you give a little more explanation about why the 00:28:41.829 --> 00:28:46.000 city would not wish to have consistency throughout the city 00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:51.220 with standardization of the parking areas around bus stops 00:28:51.220 --> 00:28:54.000 instead of just hit and miss? 00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:56.000 >> It's not a hit and miss. 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.000 This is something that we're starting new. 00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:02.670 So what we want to do is actually target something that is 00:29:02.670 --> 00:29:07.630 more impactful or is more detrimental for the service first 00:29:07.630 --> 00:29:08.000 . 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:11.420 And then eventually if need be, we will go out there and do 00:29:11.420 --> 00:29:12.000 that. 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:14.990 But if you look at most of these areas where the bus 00:29:14.990 --> 00:29:18.819 services provide services, there are long streets that have 00:29:18.819 --> 00:29:21.000 serious parking requirement. 00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:24.859 I mean, the demand is huge, especially Oak, Hickory, all 00:29:24.859 --> 00:29:26.000 these places. 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:30.230 The bus can pull near the intersection within the 30, 40 00:29:30.230 --> 00:29:33.000 feet that it has and that's the bus stop. 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:35.000 We'll leave it alone. 00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:38.720 We don't want to extend that parking space all the way 60 00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:42.529 or 80 feet longer if the bus can actually pull in closer to 00:29:42.529 --> 00:29:44.000 the intersection. 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:47.000 Typically there are near-side and far-side bus stops. 00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:50.000 So if that's the case, we require less space. 00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:54.349 So it's not that we're changing, intermittently changing 00:29:54.349 --> 00:29:56.000 our rules for this. 00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:00.599 It's more working to save on street parking as much as we 00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.000 can in places that's needed. 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:06.809 And work with DCTA to give them the space that they need 00:30:06.809 --> 00:30:09.000 for loading and unloading. 00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:13.000 So it's more of a balance as opposed to all the bus stops. 00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:17.309 We have no parking for 80 feet and most likely the bus only 00:30:17.309 --> 00:30:21.000 services that route probably once or twice a day. 00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:25.500 So that becomes a -- if the bus route is really not serv 00:30:25.500 --> 00:30:30.000 iced that much, then that becomes not a good balance 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.869 because you're losing space for most of the day when the 00:30:33.869 --> 00:30:36.000 bus is not going to show up. 00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:39.240 >> So has the DCTA provided a list of locations then that 00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:41.000 they would like to see that -- 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:44.579 >> They actually have just one at this point that I'm aware 00:30:44.579 --> 00:30:45.000 of. 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.000 They might have more that you might know. 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:52.170 But I'm aware of one which is on Riddell and it has been an 00:30:52.170 --> 00:30:53.000 issue. 00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:56.000 That's what I was trying to show. 00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:05.720 Okay. So brand new bus stop in front of this apartment 00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:07.000 complex. 00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:13.000 So this is a bus stop right here. 00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:15.000 I don't think I can zoom in. 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:16.000 Oh, there you go. 00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:19.000 This is a brand new shelter bus stop. 00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:21.000 And these parked vehicles extend all the way. 00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:25.000 So they don't really care if it's a bus stop. 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:28.430 And given the apartment, there is a huge parking demand in 00:31:28.430 --> 00:31:30.000 front of the apartment. 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.859 So this is the one that I'm aware of that they have 00:31:32.859 --> 00:31:34.000 complained about. 00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:39.259 And DCTA buses are on the street in the through lane while 00:31:39.259 --> 00:31:41.000 they're picking up and dropping off passengers. 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:47.000 And this is one of the locations that they have passengers. 00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:49.000 So that's the only complaint we've received. 00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:53.150 And this is where it started that we need to look at this 00:31:53.150 --> 00:31:54.000 issue. 00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:57.279 >> As I understand it, in its recent redesign of some of 00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:01.000 the routes and reallocation of buses, 00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:04.000 you mentioned Oak Street as an example. 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:07.000 That's a fairly high volume bus route. 00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:08.000 >> Correct. 00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:09.849 >> And as I understand it, we're not doing any kind of 00:32:09.849 --> 00:32:11.000 marking on those bus stops. 00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:12.000 Is that right? 00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.000 >> Those bus stops are mostly at intersections. 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:18.420 So if you look at that intersection at Frye and Oak, that 00:32:18.420 --> 00:32:20.000 is fairly open. 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.000 There is no parking allowed on that side of the street. 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:26.000 So if parking is not allowed, it doesn't become an issue. 00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:28.000 And buses can stop there. 00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:32.700 So I think for Oak, it's a one way and bus stops are on the 00:32:32.700 --> 00:32:34.000 right side. 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:36.000 Parking is mostly in the south side. 00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:40.000 So. 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:47.000 >> Any further discussion? 00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:50.509 >> I'd like to move forward with the recommendation that 00:32:50.509 --> 00:32:51.000 they -- 00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.000 >> Yes, I would. 00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:56.000 I'd like to motion that we recommend moving forward with -- 00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:57.000 and you said it was an ordinance? 00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:59.000 >> It would be an ordinance. 00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:00.000 >> Okay. 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:03.549 We move forward with an ordinance that will allow DCTA to 00:33:03.549 --> 00:33:05.000 restrict parking. 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:06.000 >> Second. 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:07.000 >> Second. 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:08.000 >> Second. 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:09.000 All in favor say aye. 00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:10.000 >> City of -- 00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:11.000 >> It's not DCTA. 00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:12.000 >> I'm sorry. 00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:13.000 The city -- 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:14.000 >> City traffic engineer. 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:16.000 >> Upon the recommendation of DCTA. 00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:17.000 >> Second. 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:19.000 And then all in favor? 00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:20.000 The amended. 00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:21.000 >> Aye. 00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:22.000 >> Aye. 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:23.000 >> Okay. 00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:27.000 And now we're on to the new business matrix. 00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:31.000 >> All right. 00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:32.000 Okay. 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:38.819 I tried -- I've left the first item the way it was where I 00:33:38.819 --> 00:33:42.000 think economic development 00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:45.009 department is working on -- still working on getting a 00:33:45.009 --> 00:33:47.000 downtown comprehensive plan. 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:49.000 Part of it, that's how I know. 00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:51.700 They're still looking at valet zones and loading zones and 00:33:51.700 --> 00:33:54.000 looking at the big picture of what 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:58.000 to do with all of that and how to deal with parking. 00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:02.490 I don't have an update on this one, but they're still 00:34:02.490 --> 00:34:04.000 looking at it. 00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:06.000 It's been on the matrix for a while. 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:09.480 I'm trying to address each of these items as I go, but item 00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:11.000 number two and three we already 00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:14.000 discussed were on today's agenda. 00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:18.840 Item four, I will be collecting -- I've asked police 00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:22.000 department to collect speed data once 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:25.610 UNT is in session, especially that would be the most 00:34:25.610 --> 00:34:27.000 impactful time. 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:31.000 So we'll collect some data most likely in September. 00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:33.579 We'll see most likely first or second week of September 00:34:33.579 --> 00:34:35.000 depending on when the school 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:36.000 starts. 00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:37.000 >> And you're referring to that? 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:45.000 >> The speed limit on Hickory between Frye and Welch. 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:46.000 >> Thank you. 00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:47.000 >> Correct. 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:51.000 Yeah, that portion that doesn't really front the UNT. 00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:56.159 We'll see because I suspect that area may be already 00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:58.000 lowered speed. 00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.000 It might be under 20. 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.110 And if it is, it doesn't make sense to go through the 00:35:03.110 --> 00:35:05.000 process and lower it more. 00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:09.900 There were two new things, new items that were added to the 00:35:09.900 --> 00:35:12.000 list and I think they're 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:14.769 both -- we'll wait for data collection and I'll bring it 00:35:14.769 --> 00:35:17.000 back to traffic safety commission. 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:21.809 One was there were letters from residents for traffic 00:35:21.809 --> 00:35:24.000 signal at -- I'm sorry, that was 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:25.000 not the one. 00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:29.070 Number six is where they wanted a pedestrian crossing on Ho 00:35:29.070 --> 00:35:32.000 bson at Santa Monica Drive across 00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:37.000 from the South Lake Park. 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:38.000 We received two letters. 00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:41.000 We will collect data once the school starts. 00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:44.469 We want to know how many pedestrians are actually using or 00:35:44.469 --> 00:35:47.000 are interested in using and what 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:49.000 kind of traffic are we looking at while they are crossing. 00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:51.000 There was a crosswalk today. 00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:55.559 So once we have that information, we can actually see if 00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:59.000 that needs to be enhanced and what 00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:03.000 are the options that we have to improve that. 00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:07.900 The other request was a traffic signal at Hobson and Forest 00:36:07.900 --> 00:36:10.000 Ridge Drive and once the 00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.929 school starts, we'll get data for that too as well and see 00:36:14.929 --> 00:36:17.000 if it fits the law and go 00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:18.000 from there. 00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.000 So those two are on the list. 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:24.199 Are there any other items that -- any other things that you 00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:28.000 want to bring up at this point? 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:31.880 Absolutely addressing everything on the matrix and getting 00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:33.000 more stuff on the matrix. 00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:34.000 Do you have anything? 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:35.000 No, I don't. 00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:36.000 Not today. 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:40.000 No one has anything to add to the matrix. 00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:43.000 I'm going to move that we adjourn. 00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:44.000 I'll second. 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:45.000 Okay. 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:46.000 All in favor? 00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:47.000 Aye. 00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:48.000 Thank you. 00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:49.000 Thank you. 00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:50.000 Mr. Chairman? 00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:51.000 Yes. 00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:51.000 [PAUSE]