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I need a few minutes to go over those.

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So I'm like to give a motion. I move to approve the minutes

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. I second. All in favor.

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Hi. Okay. Next item will be we're receiving a report and

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having a discussion on.

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You want to skip the season's we have people. Can you

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announce that we have a quorum and then. Oh, I'm sorry.

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We do have a quorum here this evening. Okay. I'm going to

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be.

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Receive a report and hold a discussion on no parking any

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time restriction on the south side of Congress Street from

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Bolivar to Carol.

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Thank you, Chair. My name is free time.

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I'm the traffic engineer for the city and the item, the

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first item I'm talking about is has been on the matrix for

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a while and it's been talked.

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It has not been an open item discussed and I think we got

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into some deep discussion last time and I think we got

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pulled out by tracing that something has to be in the

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agenda.

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So right now this item is just for discussion purposes. We

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need to get some feedback as to how we can proceed and how

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do we want to proceed in the future regarding such issues.

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This is parking along Congress Street. Congress Street

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between Carol Boulevard and Bolivar is real is narrow as

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compared to the rest of the one up until.

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But between Carol and Bolivar, it's width is approximately

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29, 29 feet.

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And I think what's happening there is if you look at both

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the corners, there are some commercial parking lots and

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especially 7 Mile Cafe has a lot of parked cars and patrons

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that visit this.

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These businesses have on street parking is used by those

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patrons as well as there are some residential houses on the

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north side.

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So this stretch of Congress between Bolivar and Carol gets

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pretty crowded.

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You can't see that on the aerial right now.

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's barely any space to move around when two cars are really

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parked next to each other.

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So typically what is required by a fire code is we need 26

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feet of street width minimum if we are allowing parking on

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one side of the street and 32 feet if we allow parking on

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both sides.

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Currently, parking is allowed on both sides of the street

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for this segment.

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And this is where the issue is, it's 29 feet wide but the

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minimum required is 32.

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What the fire code takes into account is 6 feet parking on

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either side, which is 12 feet and then 20 foot fire lane in

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the middle.

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So that's why it's 32 is required.

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We only have 29.

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And in order for this street to function properly or

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provide access to emergency vehicles, we need to either

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restrict parking on one side or, you know, think of other

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solutions as far as how we can have certain sections

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restricted so that people can actually get enough passing

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distance.

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Not the whole entire stretch but enough passing distance

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for emergency vehicles.

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So it is a discussion item.

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We don't expect any decision on your behalf but we would

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like to talk about.

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There are a lot of these requests to us.

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And as part of the small area plan near UNT that's

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currently under study, they will look at issues like this

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around the UNT area but there are certain pockets outside

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of UNT area and this is a good example, Congress between

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Carol and Bolivar, that we're experiencing such issues.

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And part of the reason is the type of land use that's at

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the corner right there.

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But if we get direction from commission tonight, we can

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move forward, notify all the business owners, residents to

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come in the next meeting, hear what they have to see and

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then move this item forward.

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And so I can, that's the end of my presentation but I think

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if you have any questions I'll answer.

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>> So next course of action we run a meeting.

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>> Next course of action we will notify the residents as

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well as the businesses about where the commission will be

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considering parking restrictions either on one side or some

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options or some type and have feedback from them.

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At which point we'll recommend, we'll recommend staff will

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recommend restricting parking on one side based on the fire

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>> Is there a particular side that's going to be more

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favorable?

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That's something that we need to get feedback from the

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residents.

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I'm pretty sure the residents that live on the north side

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want their side but again, that's why we need some feedback

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>> Sorry, did you just? >> Well, I just, it maybe makes

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sense for people to be closing, parking on the side where

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the businesses are because that's where they're going to.

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I think that maybe would be clear.

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>> It does get crowded.

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The options you were describing, I think you said something

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about being able to either prohibit parking on one side or

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the other, but you also said maybe there are some other

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types of ways that could be addressed that would allow the

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passage of larger vehicles such as a fire vehicle.

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What are those other ways you're thinking of?

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One of the things that we worked with the fire department

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on Texas Street is anything that's 150 feet from these

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cross streets where they really have enough access.

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So 150 feet from here as well as here, it's okay not to

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restrict any parking but restrict parking in the middle of

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the street between the 250 feet because they can actually

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serve 150 feet from the side streets.

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So there would be a smaller area that would require

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restriction.

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That way if they have to deploy a vehicle, if they have to,

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if you look at fire trucks, I think it's more of a

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deployment space that they need 20 feet when they are

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addressing, you know, any fires or emergencies in this

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particular area or neighborhood for businesses or even

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residents and businesses north and south of Congress.

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So in order for them to deploy is more important as opposed

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to getting the vehicle through into this area.

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So we can look at options as, you know, we can not restrict

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parking towards the end closer to the business but then

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allow restriction in the middle of the street.

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>> Then if we did that, we would, because how far back is

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it 20 feet from a stop sign?

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>> 30 feet.

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>> 30 feet from a stop sign.

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And you said that that way you could allow 150 feet of

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parking but then that would mean you've got 120 feet of

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parking just kind of at each end.

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So we're talking about 10 cars, I mean 20, yeah.

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>> And then no parking in the middle of the street.

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>> No parking in the middle of the street.

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We haven't looked at all the options.

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It's just an open discussion at this point.

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But we will look at options when we come back.

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>> When I think the question is if we, you know, remove

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parking there, where does it push parking to?

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And I would think Boulevard Street, right, and probably

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towards, you know, heading south towards Boulevard Street

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is probably where we'll see it.

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And usually there's space there, but is that, there's

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parking on both sides all the way along that street,

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correct?

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Boulevard is, yeah, parking on both sides.

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>> I mean, and people may now.

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>> I think it's no parking on the west side.

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>> It is on one side.

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>> Oh, okay.

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>> Yeah, west side's no parking.

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>> Yeah, and cars, even with the situation now, cars will

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back up all the way.

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Actually, if you go back to that street view, cars will

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back up fairly close to, I don't know, what's the next

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street on the south there?

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>> It's Parkway, I think.

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>> Parkway.

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Yeah, they'll get kind of close to it, so, but it's not too

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I've never seen it go all the way back to Parkway, but it

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gets somewhat close.

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>> So yeah, that's, those are the pros and cons we need to

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look at.

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Also, if you remove on-street parking, that will reduce the

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friction of driving vehicles.

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That means the speeds might go up a little bit, and there's

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always a give and take if you do one thing, there are going

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to be consequences.

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>> Casca, there was a little, the curb, I think, cut there,

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and there was a little drive that seemed to go to nowhere.

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Could like the, is that something that that property owns,

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or it seems like up to the business, if yeah.

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I think right up here, there's a spot, yeah, where you can

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>> Yeah, this is a curb way that goes into this.

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>> Can you turn it a little more?

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I think it's even further, yeah, go back to the left.

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>> This way?

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>> No, no, no, other way, other way.

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I think down there, if you look by that car, see right

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there, past the sign right there?

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Okay, that does go into the lot, okay.

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>> Yeah, I think it is the gate that opens up.

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>> Okay, I couldn't tell from the angle.

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>> I'm not sure, I mean, I do want to see this come back,

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and I do think we need to restrict parking, but I've

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noticed that the Chamber of Commerce parking lot,

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particularly on Sunday mornings when Seven Mile is packed,

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the Chamber of Commerce parking lot is underutilized.

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And so when we move, since I think we should move to some

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type of parking restriction,

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then I think that we should do a better job of advertising

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the Chamber of Commerce lot so that people are aware.

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I know that the cupboard already has signs that that's

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cupboard parking only over there, which is absolutely fair.

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But I've also noticed people driving around trying to find

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a place but completely forgetting about the Chamber of

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Commerce.

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>> Which lot is that?

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>> The one that's on Carroll Boulevard.

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>> This one?

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>> Mm-hm.

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>> Is that something the city's done before, has done

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little signs that are directions both from the parking lot

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and two other places?

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Because we had a, I know a group of citizens were just

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together talking about local traffic safety issues.

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And one of the things people brought up is how underutil

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ized that the lot at Carroll, just south on Carroll and Hick

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There's that huge lot where the- >> County lot?

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>> Yeah, is that a county lot?

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>> Yeah. >> Where, and that's where the Saturday morning

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stuff is.

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But the rest of the time that lot is like 90% almost all

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empty.

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And we talked about how that's a five minute walk to the

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center of the square, but very few people know.

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you know, even just saying on that lot, five minutes to

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square,

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and encouraging people to start using it who always tell me

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there's no parking near the square.

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There's that huge lot that's almost always empty.

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>> I think we have to be careful.

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We advertise it because I'm not sure if we can say if it's

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city parking lot, we can say that.

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But if it's not public property, if it's privately owned,

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then it becomes an issue as to where we're directing people

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to go park.

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For example, this chamber's, chamber of commerce lot, I don

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't know if we can actually,

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that might be a legal thing that we look at is can we

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direct public parking there?

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>> The chamber is supported by the city of Denton as we

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know it is.

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>> So that might be an option.

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>> There is a map that economic development put together.

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It's just for the downtown area though that has parking and

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like how long it will take you to walk there.

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>> Oh, that's great.

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>> Five minutes, ten minutes.

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I think the chamber of commerce has it on their website as

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well.

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I don't know if their parking lot is included.

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I haven't checked it that closely, but there is a map

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available that tells you what parking lots are available

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and how long it will take you to walk them to the square.

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>> That should be an app.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Is that something we could take up is discussing

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something like signage and the possibilities?

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Because I have seen that, you see that in a lot of downtown

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areas, signage to different areas that tell you this

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direction

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and even tell you walk on the street.

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>> There are parking signs.

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>> Yeah.

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>> We have parking signs.

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>> But also direction signs that are really service like

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advertisements for busy areas.

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I haven't seen any of those.

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>> I think we're done engineering the way finding program.

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So we're done with what signage, with branding we want to

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do and they are implementing now as we speak.

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So you'll soon start seeing that program being implemented.

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But we did go through the whole design and branding effort

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for way finding signage.

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>> Anything else on Congress, on this street here?

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Any more questions?

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Move on to the next item.

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>> I have a question in my direction regarding installation

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of additional pavement markings to address speeding

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concerns along Mack Drive between McKinney and Paisley.

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>> All right.

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>> McKinney and Paisley.

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>> Let me zoom out and get to this location.

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So we're talking about this segment of Mack Drive between

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McKinney and Paisley.

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If you look at this particular segment, which is Audreau

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Lane in this area, this is our main arterial in the area,

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but Mack Drive currently functions as a collector street.

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And we received a couple of concerns from a resident

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talking about speed and how Mack Drive is being used as a

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cut through, especially during peak hours to get to Paisley

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and north of Paisley.

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And one of the things is this Lee Elementary is right at

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the corner of Paisley and Mack.

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So once we received complaints, we conducted a speed survey

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and the 85th percentile speed is not about 30 miles an hour

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.

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So we looked at two days worth of data.

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I know it's not a whole lot and we'll do something more

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when the school starts, but it was under 30 miles an hour.

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And what we thought, since this is a school zone area, it

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might be a better idea to do some sort of pavement markings

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to define and identify lanes.

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If you currently look at how wide the street is, it's

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between 38 and 40 feet.

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And when you're actually driving on it without any parked

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cars, it feels like an open area that you can just be in

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the middle of the street and drive at a higher speed.

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So what we're looking at or staff is recommending is start,

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it would be a phase process and we'll look at different

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options.

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The first thing is start with double yellow line in the

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center and stripe a center yellow line.

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And then if needed, if we still continue to see later in

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the year that there are still speeding concerns and if we

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think that the speed is getting closer to 30 miles an hour

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or higher,

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then we might end up striping the parking lanes.

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And something similar was done on Nottingham, which was a

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wide street.

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I think Nottingham was 44 feet wide.

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This is close to 40 feet.

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And on Nottingham, let me just zoom in if it allows me to.

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So if you see, this is the parking lane where cars are

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parked on either side and then there was a little space for

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buffer.

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I think those were two foot buffers on either side.

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And then there was a center yellow line.

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So something similar type of marking eventually will happen

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if we don't see any reduction.

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But this has helped a lot in this area and people actually

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stick to their lane.

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They don't -- before it was an open pavement, everyone was

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traveling at high speed.

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Now they tend to remain in their lane and not go into it.

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So we have seen reductions and research has shown that

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speed reduces.

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So that's why staff has recommended that we move forward

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with striping the double yellow for now and then parking

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lanes if required striping.

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The reason this was also included here is I wanted to give

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an opportunity if there are any residents that want to come

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in and talk about anything.

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>> Yeah, like two people signed up.

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>> Okay.

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So that way we get to hear from them and we can go for that

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from there.

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>> Okay.

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>> Back up toward Lee School, is it a flashing light or is

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it just a sign that says 20 miles an hour during school

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hours there?

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Do they have a flashing light there or is it just a sign?

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>> You mean a school zone?

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>> Right.

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>> Good question.

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I think it's just a sign, but let me confirm.

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>> That's what I remember.

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>> Yeah, there is no school zone.

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It must be before this.

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Yeah, this is the sign.

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Speed limit 20.

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So there is no flashing light, it's just a sign, but this

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defines, actually defines that in that area the speed limit

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is down to 20 miles an hour.

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So right when the school property begins, that's when that

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zone starts.

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So yeah, we haven't necessarily received any complaints

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from the school yet.

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So we'll talk to them and see if there are any issues that

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they've noticed.

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>> Okay.

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Yeah, but a couple of people that are going to speak, first

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we'll call up Patricia St. Helene.

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Yes, ma'am.

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You need to be close to the microphone since this is a

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recorded meeting and state your name and address and we'll

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give you three minutes.

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>> Hi, I'm Patricia St. Helene on the 305 Mack Drive.

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I don't know who you were turning when they went, but they

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speed through there so fast.

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There's children.

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I've gotten hit by just the car turning the corner.

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I live 150 feet from a stop sign and got hit to pull toward

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and pull and park by the side of my curb.

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My son's car parked on the curb there.

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People flying down that hill and ran right into him and he

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was a drunk driver.

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Plus the person in the house in front of me has gotten

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their vehicle hit.

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Even the one single car garages have three cars sitting in

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their driveways because we're so in fear of our cars

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getting hit out there.

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And I mean they turn the corner and it's just like he

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demonstrated.

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It's fair game.

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They just step on the gas and when they're coming down,

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they're going as fast as they can so nobody can get in on

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these intermittent streets and there's children that play

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out there too.

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And the one that hit my son's car almost hit the gentleman

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up the street's children.

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So and we caught the guy by everybody being out and

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witnessing this and I've talked to all of my neighbors and

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they want something pleased to be done before somebody gets

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hurt.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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The next Michael Montgomery.

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Good evening.

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Michael Montgomery 2013 Summer Wind Court.

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I live right at the corner of the first cul-de-sac off of

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Mack Drive.

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Just really to echo what she said really the topography

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from the elementary school down to McKinney.

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It's a pretty steep grade along with two.

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It's almost a little bit of an S curve.

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So I do think that double yellow line would really help

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especially with the right of way being so wide.

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So appreciate it.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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So we're just.

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Are we just recommend that you go ahead.

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Yes.

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Forward with your paint.

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Great.

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Does anyone have any other discussion.

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I don't think we need a motion for that one.

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No.

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Then finally we have a report in the discussion and make a

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recommendation to city council to authorize traffic

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engineers to restrict parking in front of the bus stops

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within city limits.

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We actually get a recommendation on the last one.

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Well it didn't ask.

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But let's back up.

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It's OK.

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Just provide your recommended approval of installing

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payment markings.

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So yes.

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Does the committee.

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I would motion for approval.

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Moving forward striping the lanes.

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Second.

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Second.

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All in favor.

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Aye.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Item D.

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Item D.

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Is.

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Let me move out of here.

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There's no specific location but I do want to show one that

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was in there.

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We're here.

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This item deals with bus stops.

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DCTA.

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Last late last year they commissioned the study to look at

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their operation of all their buses and trains and find out

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you know operationally are there any efficiencies that can

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be improved.

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Are there any changes that can be made and how they are

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functioning.

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Based on that study they they decided to come up with new

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bus routes as well as change some of the old routes

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slightly to capture more passengers as well as cover all

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the routes that they have.

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They see a demand and growth.

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And so based on that they came back and early this year

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they applied for permits and new bus stops within the city

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and all these were issued.

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What happened at certain locations primarily on residential

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streets and smaller streets and collectors that parking was

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already available and curbside parking on street parking

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was allowed and then a bus stop was installed there.

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What happens is you have people that don't really want to

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change how they function on a day to day basis and people

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still continue parking in front of the bus stops.

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As a result of that DCTA buses were not able to get closer

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to the curb.

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They had to stop in the traffic lanes.

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And worst effect impact was the ADA ramps that the buses

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put out or even the kneeling down of the buses or lowering

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of the buses.

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That was not possible because there was no curb to get on.

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So that all these things are impacting the bus stops.

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And what we're requesting here is we did talk to the city

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attorney's office about what's the best way of addressing

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this.

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Do we need a new ordinance?

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Do we need minor modifications?

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And I think what was suggested is the best option at this

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time is to modify the municipal code as it exists and

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change the authority of the traffic engineer to include a

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receipt of the bus stop.

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To include restricting parking or creating parking zones in

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front of bus stops.

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So it's a minor change as it looks.

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>> I would call it item number four under 18-3B where it

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says establish parking zones of such kind and character and

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at such places as he may deem advisable for solid waste

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containers and a bus stop.

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So what a bus would require anywhere between 40 to 60 feet

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to come in and have that area cleared of parking.

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And it won't be implemented on all the bus stops only at

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locations where we start getting complaints from DCTA.

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So it won't be a whitewash or an application throughout the

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city.

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We won't go out on oak and start doing this in front of and

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start removing parking.

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But if DCTA feels that some of these bus stops really need

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access and we need access to those, then those are the ones

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that will be based on their needs.

522
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:19,000
So we -- it's not something that would be applied citywide.

523
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,200
So what I'm requesting is clarify the municipal code so the

524
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,329
committee would recommend this for moving forward and we

525
00:27:27,329 --> 00:27:31,289
will take this as an ordinance to the city council in the

526
00:27:31,289 --> 00:27:35,000
next meeting and change the municipal code.

527
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,000
So that's what is recommended.

528
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,000
If you have any questions.

529
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,569
>> Will you recommend -- so sometimes -- I'm sure that the

530
00:27:46,569 --> 00:27:50,960
DCTA drivers are very alert to difficulties for their

531
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,000
riders.

532
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,650
But if a citizen notices a stop that needs to have the

533
00:27:56,650 --> 00:28:01,990
parking removed and the DCTA has not recommended it yet,

534
00:28:01,990 --> 00:28:06,019
can the citizen come to the city to ask or should the

535
00:28:06,019 --> 00:28:10,000
citizen go through the DCTA to have them make the ask?

536
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,359
>> I think we're open to having an open dialogue with

537
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:13,000
everyone.

538
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,000
So once the resident approaches us, that's fine.

539
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,680
We can just contact DCTA and get a response and feedback

540
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,750
from them as to, you know, what do the drivers normally see

541
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:24,000
?

542
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,890
Is it completely blocked all the time or is it certain

543
00:28:26,890 --> 00:28:28,000
times of the day?

544
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,279
So that way we can work with them to reduce the parking

545
00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:32,000
impact.

546
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:38,000
So that's how we normally work on it.

547
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,829
>> Could you give a little more explanation about why the

548
00:28:41,829 --> 00:28:46,000
city would not wish to have consistency throughout the city

549
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:51,220
with standardization of the parking areas around bus stops

550
00:28:51,220 --> 00:28:54,000
instead of just hit and miss?

551
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000
>> It's not a hit and miss.

552
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000
This is something that we're starting new.

553
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,670
So what we want to do is actually target something that is

554
00:29:02,670 --> 00:29:07,630
more impactful or is more detrimental for the service first

555
00:29:07,630 --> 00:29:08,000
.

556
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,420
And then eventually if need be, we will go out there and do

557
00:29:11,420 --> 00:29:12,000
that.

558
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,990
But if you look at most of these areas where the bus

559
00:29:14,990 --> 00:29:18,819
services provide services, there are long streets that have

560
00:29:18,819 --> 00:29:21,000
serious parking requirement.

561
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,859
I mean, the demand is huge, especially Oak, Hickory, all

562
00:29:24,859 --> 00:29:26,000
these places.

563
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,230
The bus can pull near the intersection within the 30, 40

564
00:29:30,230 --> 00:29:33,000
feet that it has and that's the bus stop.

565
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,000
We'll leave it alone.

566
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,720
We don't want to extend that parking space all the way 60

567
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,529
or 80 feet longer if the bus can actually pull in closer to

568
00:29:42,529 --> 00:29:44,000
the intersection.

569
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,000
Typically there are near-side and far-side bus stops.

570
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,000
So if that's the case, we require less space.

571
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,349
So it's not that we're changing, intermittently changing

572
00:29:54,349 --> 00:29:56,000
our rules for this.

573
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,599
It's more working to save on street parking as much as we

574
00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:03,000
can in places that's needed.

575
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,809
And work with DCTA to give them the space that they need

576
00:30:06,809 --> 00:30:09,000
for loading and unloading.

577
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,000
So it's more of a balance as opposed to all the bus stops.

578
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,309
We have no parking for 80 feet and most likely the bus only

579
00:30:17,309 --> 00:30:21,000
services that route probably once or twice a day.

580
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,500
So that becomes a -- if the bus route is really not serv

581
00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:30,000
iced that much, then that becomes not a good balance

582
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,869
because you're losing space for most of the day when the

583
00:30:33,869 --> 00:30:36,000
bus is not going to show up.

584
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,240
>> So has the DCTA provided a list of locations then that

585
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,000
they would like to see that --

586
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,579
>> They actually have just one at this point that I'm aware

587
00:30:44,579 --> 00:30:45,000
of.

588
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,000
They might have more that you might know.

589
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,170
But I'm aware of one which is on Riddell and it has been an

590
00:30:52,170 --> 00:30:53,000
issue.

591
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,000
That's what I was trying to show.

592
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:05,720
Okay. So brand new bus stop in front of this apartment

593
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,000
complex.

594
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:13,000
So this is a bus stop right here.

595
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,000
I don't think I can zoom in.

596
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,000
Oh, there you go.

597
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,000
This is a brand new shelter bus stop.

598
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,000
And these parked vehicles extend all the way.

599
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,000
So they don't really care if it's a bus stop.

600
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,430
And given the apartment, there is a huge parking demand in

601
00:31:28,430 --> 00:31:30,000
front of the apartment.

602
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,859
So this is the one that I'm aware of that they have

603
00:31:32,859 --> 00:31:34,000
complained about.

604
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:39,259
And DCTA buses are on the street in the through lane while

605
00:31:39,259 --> 00:31:41,000
they're picking up and dropping off passengers.

606
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:47,000
And this is one of the locations that they have passengers.

607
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000
So that's the only complaint we've received.

608
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,150
And this is where it started that we need to look at this

609
00:31:53,150 --> 00:31:54,000
issue.

610
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,279
>> As I understand it, in its recent redesign of some of

611
00:31:57,279 --> 00:32:01,000
the routes and reallocation of buses,

612
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,000
you mentioned Oak Street as an example.

613
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,000
That's a fairly high volume bus route.

614
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,000
>> Correct.

615
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,849
>> And as I understand it, we're not doing any kind of

616
00:32:09,849 --> 00:32:11,000
marking on those bus stops.

617
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,000
Is that right?

618
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,000
>> Those bus stops are mostly at intersections.

619
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,420
So if you look at that intersection at Frye and Oak, that

620
00:32:18,420 --> 00:32:20,000
is fairly open.

621
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,000
There is no parking allowed on that side of the street.

622
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,000
So if parking is not allowed, it doesn't become an issue.

623
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,000
And buses can stop there.

624
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,700
So I think for Oak, it's a one way and bus stops are on the

625
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:34,000
right side.

626
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000
Parking is mostly in the south side.

627
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,000
So.

628
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:47,000
>> Any further discussion?

629
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,509
>> I'd like to move forward with the recommendation that

630
00:32:50,509 --> 00:32:51,000
they --

631
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000
>> Yes, I would.

632
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000
I'd like to motion that we recommend moving forward with --

633
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,000
and you said it was an ordinance?

634
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,000
>> It would be an ordinance.

635
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,000
>> Okay.

636
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,549
We move forward with an ordinance that will allow DCTA to

637
00:33:03,549 --> 00:33:05,000
restrict parking.

638
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,000
>> Second.

639
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,000
>> Second.

640
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,000
>> Second.

641
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,000
All in favor say aye.

642
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,000
>> City of --

643
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,000
>> It's not DCTA.

644
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,000
>> I'm sorry.

645
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,000
The city --

646
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,000
>> City traffic engineer.

647
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,000
>> Upon the recommendation of DCTA.

648
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,000
>> Second.

649
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,000
And then all in favor?

650
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,000
The amended.

651
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,000
>> Aye.

652
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,000
>> Aye.

653
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,000
>> Okay.

654
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,000
And now we're on to the new business matrix.

655
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,000
>> All right.

656
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,000
Okay.

657
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:38,819
I tried -- I've left the first item the way it was where I

658
00:33:38,819 --> 00:33:42,000
think economic development

659
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,009
department is working on -- still working on getting a

660
00:33:45,009 --> 00:33:47,000
downtown comprehensive plan.

661
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000
Part of it, that's how I know.

662
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,700
They're still looking at valet zones and loading zones and

663
00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:54,000
looking at the big picture of what

664
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,000
to do with all of that and how to deal with parking.

665
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,490
I don't have an update on this one, but they're still

666
00:34:02,490 --> 00:34:04,000
looking at it.

667
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,000
It's been on the matrix for a while.

668
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,480
I'm trying to address each of these items as I go, but item

669
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,000
number two and three we already

670
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,000
discussed were on today's agenda.

671
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,840
Item four, I will be collecting -- I've asked police

672
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,000
department to collect speed data once

673
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,610
UNT is in session, especially that would be the most

674
00:34:25,610 --> 00:34:27,000
impactful time.

675
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,000
So we'll collect some data most likely in September.

676
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,579
We'll see most likely first or second week of September

677
00:34:33,579 --> 00:34:35,000
depending on when the school

678
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,000
starts.

679
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,000
>> And you're referring to that?

680
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:45,000
>> The speed limit on Hickory between Frye and Welch.

681
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,000
>> Thank you.

682
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,000
>> Correct.

683
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,000
Yeah, that portion that doesn't really front the UNT.

684
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:56,159
We'll see because I suspect that area may be already

685
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:58,000
lowered speed.

686
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,000
It might be under 20.

687
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,110
And if it is, it doesn't make sense to go through the

688
00:35:03,110 --> 00:35:05,000
process and lower it more.

689
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,900
There were two new things, new items that were added to the

690
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:12,000
list and I think they're

691
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,769
both -- we'll wait for data collection and I'll bring it

692
00:35:14,769 --> 00:35:17,000
back to traffic safety commission.

693
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,809
One was there were letters from residents for traffic

694
00:35:21,809 --> 00:35:24,000
signal at -- I'm sorry, that was

695
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,000
not the one.

696
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,070
Number six is where they wanted a pedestrian crossing on Ho

697
00:35:29,070 --> 00:35:32,000
bson at Santa Monica Drive across

698
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,000
from the South Lake Park.

699
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,000
We received two letters.

700
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,000
We will collect data once the school starts.

701
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,469
We want to know how many pedestrians are actually using or

702
00:35:44,469 --> 00:35:47,000
are interested in using and what

703
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000
kind of traffic are we looking at while they are crossing.

704
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,000
There was a crosswalk today.

705
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,559
So once we have that information, we can actually see if

706
00:35:55,559 --> 00:35:59,000
that needs to be enhanced and what

707
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,000
are the options that we have to improve that.

708
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,900
The other request was a traffic signal at Hobson and Forest

709
00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:10,000
Ridge Drive and once the

710
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,929
school starts, we'll get data for that too as well and see

711
00:36:14,929 --> 00:36:17,000
if it fits the law and go

712
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,000
from there.

713
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,000
So those two are on the list.

714
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,199
Are there any other items that -- any other things that you

715
00:36:24,199 --> 00:36:28,000
want to bring up at this point?

716
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,880
Absolutely addressing everything on the matrix and getting

717
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,000
more stuff on the matrix.

718
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,000
Do you have anything?

719
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,000
No, I don't.

720
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,000
Not today.

721
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,000
No one has anything to add to the matrix.

722
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,000
I'm going to move that we adjourn.

723
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,000
I'll second.

724
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,000
Okay.

725
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,000
All in favor?

726
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,000
Aye.

727
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,000
Thank you.

728
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,000
Thank you.

729
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,000
Mr. Chairman?

730
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,000
Yes.

731
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:51,000
[PAUSE]