1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,320 August 27th 2018 public utility board meeting to order. We 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:08,960 actually have a 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:15,910 scheduled a closed meeting in the beginning of this meeting 4 00:00:15,910 --> 00:00:17,679 so at this 5 00:00:17,679 --> 00:00:21,910 time we have two items in closed meeting to discuss. Item A 6 00:00:21,910 --> 00:00:23,359 is deliberations 7 00:00:23,359 --> 00:00:26,030 regarding certain public power utilities competitive 8 00:00:26,030 --> 00:00:27,399 matters under Texas 9 00:00:27,399 --> 00:00:34,520 government code section 551.08. Okay we will come back into 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,880 out of closed 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:42,200 session in the regular meeting at 645. Our first item on 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,880 the agenda or first 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:53,039 section is our consent agenda. We have let's see one two 14 00:00:53,039 --> 00:00:55,899 three four four items 15 00:00:55,899 --> 00:00:58,880 on the consent agenda. Is there any member of the board who 16 00:00:58,880 --> 00:00:59,479 would like to 17 00:00:59,479 --> 00:01:04,939 have one any of these items pulled for individual 18 00:01:04,939 --> 00:01:10,879 consideration? No? Hearing none. 19 00:01:10,879 --> 00:01:18,359 Is there a motion then for the consent agenda items A B C 20 00:01:18,359 --> 00:01:18,840 and D? 21 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:24,810 I'll move approval. I'll second. I have a motion to approve 22 00:01:24,810 --> 00:01:27,439 in a second. Any discussion? 23 00:01:27,439 --> 00:01:34,950 Do I need to abstain from B? Yes. Probably what we need to 24 00:01:34,950 --> 00:01:36,560 do. So then we need to pull it. We need to pull item B. 25 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:45,040 Okay. We have maybe probably just abstain from the vote. 26 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,319 Because there's no discussion on it. You were out while the 27 00:01:48,319 --> 00:01:49,680 discussion was. We already 28 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:55,189 have a motion second on the floor. Any other discussion? 29 00:01:55,189 --> 00:01:57,480 All in favor say aye. 30 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:06,200 Any opposed? Any abstentions? Abstain. Thank you. Okay for 31 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,719 items and for individual 32 00:02:07,719 --> 00:02:11,310 consideration item A which is consider approval of the 33 00:02:11,310 --> 00:02:12,639 public utilities board 34 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:18,960 meeting minutes of August 13th 2018. These have been 35 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,360 distributed and for your 36 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:30,080 review any changes questions clarifications anyone would 37 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:30,479 like to see 38 00:02:30,479 --> 00:02:35,680 on those? If not then is there a motion to approve or not 39 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:36,599 approve I guess? 40 00:02:36,599 --> 00:02:42,389 Recommend approval. I have a motion to recommend approval 41 00:02:42,389 --> 00:02:44,159 and a second. Any 42 00:02:44,159 --> 00:02:49,949 discussion? All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Same sign. 43 00:02:49,949 --> 00:02:52,639 All right. Item B is 44 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,780 to consider recommending an ordinance establishing the 45 00:02:55,780 --> 00:02:57,000 schedule of rates for 46 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,580 solid waste service services providing for repealer 47 00:03:00,580 --> 00:03:02,319 providing for a severability 48 00:03:02,319 --> 00:03:07,740 clause and providing for an effective date. Good afternoon 49 00:03:07,740 --> 00:03:08,840 PUB members. Mr. 50 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,219 Chairman my name is Nick Vincent. I'm the business utility 51 00:03:11,219 --> 00:03:12,000 manager here at the 52 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,229 City of Denton. I'll be presenting to you today the FY 18- 53 00:03:15,229 --> 00:03:16,680 19 solid waste rates. 54 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,150 Feel free to stop me throughout the presentation if you 55 00:03:19,150 --> 00:03:20,319 have any questions. A 56 00:03:20,319 --> 00:03:23,710 little bit of history on July 23rd the PUB did approve the 57 00:03:23,710 --> 00:03:25,199 18-19 operating 58 00:03:25,199 --> 00:03:28,270 budget for the solid waste department and then August 2nd 59 00:03:28,270 --> 00:03:29,560 the City Council also 60 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,259 reviewed it. Council was scheduled to adopt the budget on 61 00:03:32,259 --> 00:03:33,439 September 18th with 62 00:03:33,439 --> 00:03:38,379 the rest of the budgets and rates for the city. Like I said 63 00:03:38,379 --> 00:03:39,439 if you have any 64 00:03:39,439 --> 00:03:41,909 questions feel free to stop me if I can't answer it staff 65 00:03:41,909 --> 00:03:42,520 will come up and 66 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,189 help me answer the question. This is an overview of the 67 00:03:45,189 --> 00:03:46,240 rates I'll be discussing 68 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,060 with you today. Residential rates the City Council and PUB 69 00:03:50,060 --> 00:03:51,080 both did approve a 70 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,789 12% rate decrease for residential customers in March of 71 00:03:55,789 --> 00:03:56,979 2018. I will show 72 00:03:56,979 --> 00:03:59,469 that rate decrease to you here on the next slide. 73 00:03:59,469 --> 00:04:01,199 Commercial rates solid waste 74 00:04:01,199 --> 00:04:04,360 staff and the finance staff is not recommending any rate 75 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:05,319 adjustments to the 76 00:04:05,319 --> 00:04:07,789 commercial rates currently. We have been working over the 77 00:04:07,789 --> 00:04:08,840 last several months to 78 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,509 increase the transparency of these rates for side load and 79 00:04:11,509 --> 00:04:12,580 front load customers 80 00:04:12,580 --> 00:04:15,930 and I'll show that to you here shortly. Landfill rates also 81 00:04:15,930 --> 00:04:16,759 over the last 82 00:04:16,759 --> 00:04:19,660 several months staff has been working to address the subsid 83 00:04:19,660 --> 00:04:20,600 ization and align 84 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,110 these rates with a market. We are recommending increases to 85 00:04:24,110 --> 00:04:25,000 three disposal 86 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,860 rates for landfill customers and also to remove a few of 87 00:04:27,860 --> 00:04:28,879 the rates from the rate 88 00:04:28,879 --> 00:04:35,290 ordinance. These are the residential rates there are two 89 00:04:35,290 --> 00:04:36,920 size containers that 90 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,160 customers can choose from. First you see here the standard 91 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,519 cart and the large cart. 92 00:04:41,519 --> 00:04:45,259 Both of these rates are for a pair of residential carts so 93 00:04:45,259 --> 00:04:46,399 one refuse and one 94 00:04:46,399 --> 00:04:49,930 recycling. You can see here before the rate decrease the 95 00:04:49,930 --> 00:04:52,600 rate was 27.85 after 96 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:57,370 the 12% decrease it's 24.51. For the large cart pair it's 97 00:04:57,370 --> 00:04:58,959 33.25 before the 98 00:04:58,959 --> 00:05:03,730 rate decrease after the rate decrease it went to 29.26. 99 00:05:03,730 --> 00:05:04,839 There also is an option 100 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,029 down here if customers want to call in for an additional 101 00:05:07,029 --> 00:05:07,860 large cart they can do 102 00:05:07,860 --> 00:05:13,800 so. The rate was 19.75 and it was decreased to 17.38 after 103 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:14,060 the rate 104 00:05:14,060 --> 00:05:17,180 decrease. Staff is not recommending additional changes to 105 00:05:17,180 --> 00:05:17,879 residential rates 106 00:05:17,879 --> 00:05:22,649 right now this is previously approved in March of this year 107 00:05:22,649 --> 00:05:25,920 . These are the 108 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,779 commercial refuse and recycling rates as I had stated. 109 00:05:28,779 --> 00:05:29,879 Staff had been working over 110 00:05:29,879 --> 00:05:32,230 the last several months to improve the transparency of 111 00:05:32,230 --> 00:05:33,740 these rates. These matrix 112 00:05:33,740 --> 00:05:36,209 tables were developed that shows the various rates the 113 00:05:36,209 --> 00:05:36,800 various size 114 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,220 containers. I'll be happy to walk you through it here. The 115 00:05:40,220 --> 00:05:41,360 top table that you 116 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,220 see is for the commercial side load rates in the community. 117 00:05:44,220 --> 00:05:44,800 There's currently 118 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,250 two size containers offered a three cubic yard and a four 119 00:05:48,250 --> 00:05:50,319 cubic yard. You can 120 00:05:50,319 --> 00:05:53,620 very plainly see the frequencies of collection per week up 121 00:05:53,620 --> 00:05:54,560 here at the top. 122 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,769 So for instance if you're a side load customer and you have 123 00:05:57,769 --> 00:05:58,800 a three cubic yard 124 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,660 container being collected five times per week your rate 125 00:06:01,660 --> 00:06:03,879 would be 576.90 a month. 126 00:06:03,879 --> 00:06:06,350 Here on the bottom table these are the front load 127 00:06:06,350 --> 00:06:08,319 commercial rates. Same thing 128 00:06:08,319 --> 00:06:11,509 here their container sizes vary from three, a four, a six, 129 00:06:11,509 --> 00:06:12,800 and an eight at a 130 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:17,509 frequency of one to six times per week. Yes sir. Does that 131 00:06:17,509 --> 00:06:19,399 include a rental fee for the car? 132 00:06:19,399 --> 00:06:24,170 For the bin or whatever? So let me answer your question. 133 00:06:24,170 --> 00:06:26,160 These rates the cost of 134 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,050 service rate would include that as a component. So in this 135 00:06:29,050 --> 00:06:29,899 rate there's 136 00:06:29,899 --> 00:06:32,600 different components built into it. The collection 137 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:33,879 component, the disposal 138 00:06:33,879 --> 00:06:36,579 component, the container recovery component, and 139 00:06:36,579 --> 00:06:37,920 maintenance component of 140 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,060 the container that would be built in here. The next thing I 141 00:06:41,060 --> 00:06:41,839 was going to cover 142 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,310 with you too is we're not recommending any adjustments at 143 00:06:44,310 --> 00:06:45,079 this time to these 144 00:06:45,079 --> 00:06:47,939 rates. What we are doing is we're continuing to work with N 145 00:06:47,939 --> 00:06:48,199 ugent 146 00:06:48,199 --> 00:06:50,740 Strategies that just completed our rate correction strategy 147 00:06:50,740 --> 00:06:51,920 , or I'm sorry our 148 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,279 cost of service study. So they did identify rates in here 149 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:55,519 that are 150 00:06:55,519 --> 00:06:58,379 over recovering and under recovering. What we're gonna do 151 00:06:58,379 --> 00:06:59,160 is return to you in 152 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,439 the coming months with a plan to address those rates. So 153 00:07:01,439 --> 00:07:02,319 some of these rates could 154 00:07:02,319 --> 00:07:04,509 possibly come down in the future and some possibly could 155 00:07:04,509 --> 00:07:05,360 recommend increase. 156 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,220 Some of the components that make up this total? That's 157 00:07:07,220 --> 00:07:08,120 correct. Yeah some of the 158 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,759 different container sizes and frequencies. Yep. At the 159 00:07:11,759 --> 00:07:13,120 bottom here the front load 160 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,050 commercial rates as of a stadium three, four, and six, and 161 00:07:16,050 --> 00:07:17,480 eight cubic yard sizes 162 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,339 is what's currently offered. You can see here the frequency 163 00:07:20,339 --> 00:07:21,160 is one time a week to 164 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,019 six time a week. And the same container here in a front 165 00:07:24,019 --> 00:07:24,720 load is a little bit 166 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,189 less. If you had a three cubic yard container going five 167 00:07:27,189 --> 00:07:28,160 times a week it would 168 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,360 be 408.75. 169 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,939 Most of our fleet replacement front load now is that why 170 00:07:37,939 --> 00:07:39,879 that is? Yes sir. 171 00:07:39,879 --> 00:07:44,120 The majority of the routes are front load routes and Ethan 172 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:44,600 can speak to this 173 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,560 if he wants to or I'll be happy to answer it. There is one 174 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:48,720 side load route 175 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,360 currently in the city and the rest are front load. But let 176 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:53,160 me ask Ethan to come 177 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:59,480 up and confirm that number. I'd need to take a look at the 178 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:00,160 routes but we do have 179 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,350 a mix of both. In some cases it's just a front load 180 00:08:02,350 --> 00:08:03,399 container is not possible 181 00:08:03,399 --> 00:08:07,139 because of kind of the dimensions and accessibility. And so 182 00:08:07,139 --> 00:08:07,639 we do have some 183 00:08:07,639 --> 00:08:10,220 some automated or some side load commercial containers that 184 00:08:10,220 --> 00:08:10,680 we need to 185 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:16,120 continue with. Okay. This is just a curiosity. If this is 186 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:16,680 refuse and 187 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,069 recycling rates so if you have a three cubic yard it's all 188 00:08:20,069 --> 00:08:21,160 garbage and then you 189 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,980 have recycling at a four cubic yard you're paying the same 190 00:08:24,980 --> 00:08:25,720 amount whether 191 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:30,680 boy that doesn't incentive size recycling. That's correct. 192 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:31,600 And from a 193 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,100 cost of service standpoint that's one of the corrections 194 00:08:34,100 --> 00:08:35,679 that we need to make is 195 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:40,279 that is a big component of whatever goes into this cost. 196 00:08:40,279 --> 00:08:40,759 You do have your 197 00:08:40,759 --> 00:08:43,320 overhead you do have your you know container cost your 198 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,320 transportation cost 199 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,679 but disposal needs to be factored in that and there should 200 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:48,559 be some type of 201 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,659 reduction for recycling. It's a very good observation. That 202 00:08:52,659 --> 00:08:53,759 's what we'll be coming 203 00:08:53,759 --> 00:08:57,639 back to you all with in the coming months. Good. We don't 204 00:08:57,639 --> 00:08:58,360 want that stuff in 205 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:03,279 the landfill. Is there any more questions on the commercial 206 00:09:03,279 --> 00:09:04,039 front load side load 207 00:09:04,039 --> 00:09:08,809 rates? Okay. We move forward here. As I had stated we are 208 00:09:08,809 --> 00:09:09,740 recommending the three 209 00:09:09,740 --> 00:09:12,210 disposal rates in front of you be increased. These 210 00:09:12,210 --> 00:09:13,360 increases are based on 211 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,730 the recently completed cost of service study. We are 212 00:09:15,730 --> 00:09:17,000 recommending that the 213 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,320 sludge rate increase from $23 a ton that you can see here 214 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,220 to the $46. We are 215 00:09:23,220 --> 00:09:25,889 recommending that the wholesale disposal rate increase from 216 00:09:25,889 --> 00:09:28,399 23 to 2450 and then 217 00:09:28,399 --> 00:09:31,259 clean concrete asphalt brick and dirt coming into the 218 00:09:31,259 --> 00:09:32,120 facility we are 219 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:37,629 recommending this increase from 10 to 22 dollars a ton. 220 00:09:37,629 --> 00:09:42,600 Staff is proposing to 221 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,139 eliminate the falling rates and the solvage rate ordinance 222 00:09:45,139 --> 00:09:45,879 and these rates 223 00:09:45,879 --> 00:09:48,419 are either not supportive of the recently completed cost of 224 00:09:48,419 --> 00:09:49,120 service study 225 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,860 they lack usage of the rate or they're not justifiable 226 00:09:52,860 --> 00:09:54,039 within the rate 227 00:09:54,039 --> 00:09:56,759 ordinance. Let me walk you through it here. You can see the 228 00:09:56,759 --> 00:09:57,519 rates highlighted in 229 00:09:57,519 --> 00:09:59,990 blue on your screen kind of a light blue color and the 230 00:09:59,990 --> 00:10:01,639 first one is the commercial 231 00:10:01,639 --> 00:10:05,600 disposal rate of 2850 a ton. This is a reduced disposal 232 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:06,360 rate that has been 233 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,789 given to select companies in the past and there's currently 234 00:10:08,789 --> 00:10:09,639 a few companies on 235 00:10:09,639 --> 00:10:12,309 this rate and this rate is not supported by the cost of 236 00:10:12,309 --> 00:10:13,519 service study so we are 237 00:10:13,519 --> 00:10:15,990 recommending it be removed from the solid waste ordinance. 238 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:17,039 Moving forward 239 00:10:17,039 --> 00:10:19,230 these customers will be billed at the landfill to get 240 00:10:19,230 --> 00:10:20,639 disposal rate of $44 a 241 00:10:20,639 --> 00:10:24,159 ton. Disposal rate for the gate rate is not proposed to be 242 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:24,840 increased this year 243 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:29,549 the 44 is what's currently approved in the rate ordinance. 244 00:10:29,549 --> 00:10:30,840 Clean lumber disposal 245 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,309 rate question yes sir. Is there a certain type of waste 246 00:10:33,309 --> 00:10:37,000 that that was intended for 247 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:43,320 or is it just volume driven or was it? The commercial 248 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:44,200 disposal rate Ethan you 249 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,519 want to speak to that let me ask Ethan to come back over 250 00:10:47,519 --> 00:10:50,919 and speak to it. As far 251 00:10:50,919 --> 00:10:53,110 as we can tell and this is gonna be kind of a cop-out 252 00:10:53,110 --> 00:10:54,159 answer we really couldn't 253 00:10:54,159 --> 00:10:57,440 understand the logic behind who received that rate and who 254 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:58,399 did. There's a very 255 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:01,720 small number of individual or very small number of 256 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,080 businesses some local some 257 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,940 not local and so we really didn't have anything on the 258 00:11:05,940 --> 00:11:07,279 books in terms of policy 259 00:11:07,279 --> 00:11:10,320 guidance or decision-making criteria that would allow 260 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,759 someone to get that rate. 261 00:11:12,759 --> 00:11:16,009 So will they be notified ahead of time that their rates are 262 00:11:16,009 --> 00:11:19,080 going to go up? We are we are I mean some of the financial 263 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,940 impact is very low both to us and to the potential customer 264 00:11:22,940 --> 00:11:26,429 but we do have an account manager on our staff that once we 265 00:11:26,429 --> 00:11:27,080 get through with this 266 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,019 meeting tomorrow's meeting with council we're gonna be 267 00:11:29,019 --> 00:11:29,799 contacting them and 268 00:11:29,799 --> 00:11:32,049 providing them kind of the information as well as some 269 00:11:32,049 --> 00:11:33,080 options that they might 270 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,559 consider. 271 00:11:38,159 --> 00:11:42,429 All right clean lumber disposal rate this rate has in the 272 00:11:42,429 --> 00:11:43,639 past been charged 273 00:11:43,639 --> 00:11:46,340 occasionally to customers bringing in clean fence panels or 274 00:11:46,340 --> 00:11:47,240 construction debris 275 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,210 if it doesn't have paint or stain on it and it could have 276 00:11:50,210 --> 00:11:51,320 been built at this 277 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,779 reduced rate in the past with a temporary suspension of the 278 00:11:54,779 --> 00:11:56,240 BMR operation this 279 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,580 material is being landfilled so we are recommending 280 00:11:58,580 --> 00:11:59,759 removing this rate from the 281 00:11:59,759 --> 00:12:03,240 ordinance and building it at the gate rate of $44 a ton. 282 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,360 Contaminated yard 283 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,840 waste this does come in the facility a lot of times it's 284 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:07,919 mixed with municipal 285 00:12:07,919 --> 00:12:11,179 solid waste trash or construction debris and it's not 286 00:12:11,179 --> 00:12:12,799 eligible to be sent to the 287 00:12:12,799 --> 00:12:15,470 city's composting operation because it would contaminate 288 00:12:15,470 --> 00:12:16,639 their piles and this is 289 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:19,399 being landfilled there's no rate adjustment here we're just 290 00:12:19,399 --> 00:12:19,620 trying to 291 00:12:19,620 --> 00:12:21,860 clean up the rate ordinance with a language so this would 292 00:12:21,860 --> 00:12:22,519 be built at the 293 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:24,990 gate disposal rate so we are recommending this be removed 294 00:12:24,990 --> 00:12:26,759 from the ordinance. The 295 00:12:26,759 --> 00:12:29,679 pull-off fee currently and in the past solid waste staff 296 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:30,879 has helped customers 297 00:12:30,879 --> 00:12:33,990 unload their vehicles and trailers we do feel like this is 298 00:12:33,990 --> 00:12:34,799 liability to the 299 00:12:34,799 --> 00:12:37,120 solid waste department the city as a whole with the 300 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,360 possibility of damaging 301 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,049 their vehicles and trailers so we are recommending this 302 00:12:41,049 --> 00:12:41,879 rate come out of the 303 00:12:41,879 --> 00:12:44,409 ordinance and moving forward we would ask customers to 304 00:12:44,409 --> 00:12:45,559 unload those things 305 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,000 themselves. 306 00:12:52,039 --> 00:12:54,799 Sand select fill and rock sales and these are aggregate 307 00:12:54,799 --> 00:12:57,200 materials around the 308 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,779 landfill site that have been sold to residents or people 309 00:13:00,779 --> 00:13:02,159 visiting the site in 310 00:13:02,159 --> 00:13:06,120 the past. Sales are currently suspended into an adequate 311 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,039 business plan and 312 00:13:07,039 --> 00:13:10,070 inventory management system we've put in place or basically 313 00:13:10,070 --> 00:13:11,000 we can monitor how 314 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,700 much is on site and how much is leaving the site so we can 315 00:13:13,700 --> 00:13:14,679 revisit with PEB in 316 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,529 the future this is something we want to offer but currently 317 00:13:16,529 --> 00:13:17,279 we recommend it come 318 00:13:17,279 --> 00:13:20,789 out the rate ordinance. Material delivery fee of the 319 00:13:20,789 --> 00:13:22,480 aggregate materials above in 320 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,840 the past solid waste staff has occasionally delivered 321 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:25,279 things to 322 00:13:25,279 --> 00:13:27,950 residents or businesses around the city limits for a 323 00:13:27,950 --> 00:13:30,159 hundred dollar flat fee we 324 00:13:30,159 --> 00:13:32,629 are recommending this be removed from the solid waste rate 325 00:13:32,629 --> 00:13:33,639 ordinance we do not feel 326 00:13:33,639 --> 00:13:37,120 this is an adequate use of personnel's time or equipment 327 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,399 utilization so we are 328 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:40,590 recommending to come out of the rate ordinance. Citizens 329 00:13:40,590 --> 00:13:41,600 can still purchase or 330 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,370 get this material delivered by businesses around the 331 00:13:43,370 --> 00:13:43,960 community there's 332 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,389 plenty of those companies around. The community garden 333 00:13:47,389 --> 00:13:48,639 plots currently the 334 00:13:48,639 --> 00:13:52,200 solid waste community garden is located just south of 651 335 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,360 the recent approval 336 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,320 the renovations of 651 will utilize this area as an 337 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:58,679 equipment lay down yard for 338 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,870 materials management so we are recommending this rate come 339 00:14:01,870 --> 00:14:02,440 out of the 340 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,399 rate ordinance moving forward citizens can still utilize 341 00:14:05,399 --> 00:14:06,360 the community garden 342 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,940 at the bowling ring park and bowling ring park is just off 343 00:14:08,940 --> 00:14:09,720 Windsor and South 344 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:15,090 and North Lakes if you're not familiar with it. These are 345 00:14:15,090 --> 00:14:16,720 the next steps some 346 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,299 staff is seeking a PEB's recommendation for the 18-19 rates 347 00:14:20,299 --> 00:14:22,480 today this will be 348 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,740 presented as Ethan had mentioned to City Council tomorrow 349 00:14:24,740 --> 00:14:25,840 on the 28th the meeting 350 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,659 starts at 12 a formal adoption is scheduled for September 351 00:14:29,659 --> 00:14:31,679 18th staff does 352 00:14:31,679 --> 00:14:34,360 scheduled to come back with a series of discussions to the 353 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,360 PEB and over the 354 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,549 coming months Ethan will be returning with some rate 355 00:14:37,549 --> 00:14:38,440 setting and policy 356 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,789 strategies and seek direction from PB and council of how to 357 00:14:41,789 --> 00:14:43,159 implement those or 358 00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:46,559 how to proceed once we get that direction we will complete 359 00:14:46,559 --> 00:14:46,840 the rate 360 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,399 correction strategy Mr. Carl it'll limit the rate 361 00:14:50,399 --> 00:14:51,600 correction strategy to address 362 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,830 those rates that are over and under recovering so we will 363 00:14:53,830 --> 00:14:54,559 return to you with 364 00:14:54,559 --> 00:14:57,820 that plan once formal direction is received from PB and 365 00:14:57,820 --> 00:14:59,399 council that 366 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:02,549 concludes the presentation I'll be happy to answer any 367 00:15:02,549 --> 00:15:05,159 questions if you have any 368 00:15:05,159 --> 00:15:10,960 but we are seeking approval today or the race is presented 369 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:11,360 to you. 370 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:17,679 Questions comments? Just the loss of that community garden. 371 00:15:17,679 --> 00:15:20,759 Yes ma'am. I think that might be 372 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:28,659 unpopular. How many people were using it? So today since it 373 00:15:28,659 --> 00:15:29,559 's been constructed the 374 00:15:29,559 --> 00:15:31,789 community gardens been constructed over a little over two 375 00:15:31,789 --> 00:15:32,480 years if I'm not 376 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:37,250 mistaken and two people have utilized it. So about fifty 377 00:15:37,250 --> 00:15:38,200 dollars roughly in 378 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,639 revenue two people has utilized it. So there's enough room 379 00:15:41,639 --> 00:15:42,759 at Bowling Green Park? 380 00:15:42,759 --> 00:15:46,320 I'm not sure on that I'd have to get an answer Mr. Chairman 381 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:46,840 on that. 382 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:51,440 I lived earlier this year and there were some blocks. At 383 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,159 Bowling Green. Yeah because I live over by there and it's 384 00:15:53,159 --> 00:15:55,960 used quite a bit so I'm surprised. 385 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,769 Right. That the other one wasn't used more often. I didn't 386 00:16:00,769 --> 00:16:03,500 know it existed. You didn't know Bowling Green existed? No 387 00:16:03,500 --> 00:16:07,600 I didn't know it existed. I know I didn't either. 388 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,309 And as far as the aggregates go too we should never be in 389 00:16:12,309 --> 00:16:12,639 competition with a 390 00:16:12,639 --> 00:16:16,210 private business. If there's a way for people to get what 391 00:16:16,210 --> 00:16:17,360 they need not through 392 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:22,379 us we should be encouraging that. We still sell down on 393 00:16:22,379 --> 00:16:25,519 dirt. What's that? We still sell down on dirt. 394 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:29,340 Which is in competition with local businesses. It's a good 395 00:16:29,340 --> 00:16:33,519 point. Maybe we should be thinking about that. 396 00:16:34,519 --> 00:16:39,960 Any other questions? Questions. All right is there a 397 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,519 recommendation or motion on item B then? 398 00:16:43,519 --> 00:16:48,289 I'll move approval. Motion to approve is there a second? 399 00:16:48,289 --> 00:16:54,399 Second. Second. Discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Any 400 00:16:54,399 --> 00:17:00,519 opposed? Same sign. Okay motion passes. 401 00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:08,700 All right item C is to consider recommending adoption of an 402 00:17:08,700 --> 00:17:09,119 ordinance 403 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,940 City of Denton Texas authorizing the city manager or his 404 00:17:12,940 --> 00:17:14,920 designee to execute a 405 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,170 decommissioning escrow agreement among and between the 406 00:17:18,170 --> 00:17:19,599 Texas Municipal Power 407 00:17:19,599 --> 00:17:23,940 Agency, the City of Bryan, Texas, the City of Denton, Texas 408 00:17:23,940 --> 00:17:25,359 , the City of Garland, 409 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,000 Texas, and the City of Greenville, Texas regarding the 410 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,680 establishment of escrow 411 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,329 for decommissioning pursuant to the existing joint 412 00:17:34,329 --> 00:17:35,920 operating agreement 413 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:41,430 between the cities and TMPA and providing an effective date 414 00:17:41,430 --> 00:17:42,920 . Good evening 415 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:47,730 Mr. Chairman and PUB members. George Morrow, DME general 416 00:17:47,730 --> 00:17:49,180 manager. So before 417 00:17:49,180 --> 00:17:52,039 you today as was indicated we're bringing you the decomm 418 00:17:52,039 --> 00:17:53,039 issioning escrow 419 00:17:53,039 --> 00:17:56,259 agreement for the Texas Municipal Power Agency which 420 00:17:56,259 --> 00:17:58,000 operates and maintains the 421 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,769 Gibbon Creek power plant. A couple years ago the parties 422 00:18:02,769 --> 00:18:03,920 all executed a joint 423 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,250 operating agreement which basically provides for the phase 424 00:18:07,250 --> 00:18:07,819 out of the 425 00:18:07,819 --> 00:18:11,220 project and one of the requirements was to establish a dec 426 00:18:11,220 --> 00:18:12,559 ommissioning escrow 427 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:16,559 agreement and the agreement provides for a couple of things 428 00:18:16,559 --> 00:18:17,920 as indicated by the 429 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,880 slide selection and duties of a decommissioning escrow 430 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,680 agent, establishment 431 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:28,450 of an escrow account, and then some procedures for how to 432 00:18:28,450 --> 00:18:29,440 make disbursements 433 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:35,160 and from the escrow account. So the decommissioning plan we 434 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:35,920 had a recent 435 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:41,079 meeting at TMPA. A high-level strategy has been developed 436 00:18:41,079 --> 00:18:42,640 and so there's a 437 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,710 vision of where we're going with the decommissioning when 438 00:18:45,710 --> 00:18:46,200 the when the time 439 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,710 comes. At the moment the project scheduled the run through 440 00:18:49,710 --> 00:18:50,319 September, 441 00:18:50,319 --> 00:18:53,339 most of September if not all of it, and then you know 442 00:18:53,339 --> 00:18:54,839 potentially revisit it 443 00:18:54,839 --> 00:18:59,849 again or or not depending on what happens with other parts 444 00:18:59,849 --> 00:19:00,279 of our 445 00:19:00,279 --> 00:19:05,049 dissolution meant process. So I'm here recommending 446 00:19:05,049 --> 00:19:07,160 adoption of this proposed 447 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:14,319 ordinance to execute this agreement. Open for questions. 448 00:19:14,839 --> 00:19:17,839 Questions. 449 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,960 This is a requirement of our operating agreement. 450 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,960 Right. 451 00:19:29,759 --> 00:19:32,460 And this is normal and prudent in the when you're decomm 452 00:19:32,460 --> 00:19:34,440 issioning a plant to 453 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,720 develop these escrow agreements and get them set up. 454 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:39,720 Correct. We're going to be 455 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,940 putting money aside the projects committed that could take 456 00:19:42,940 --> 00:19:43,640 an extended 457 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,900 period to actually you know complete all the decommission 458 00:19:47,900 --> 00:19:49,079 ing activities. So there's 459 00:19:49,079 --> 00:19:52,200 a might be a long process and it's good to have all the 460 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,200 details out there and 461 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,630 appointment of an escrow agent that we're all comfortable 462 00:19:57,630 --> 00:19:58,279 with and and that 463 00:19:58,279 --> 00:20:01,519 set the rules for how they put money in and take money out. 464 00:20:01,519 --> 00:20:04,519 Thank you. 465 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:11,529 Okay any other questions? Do we have a motion then on item 466 00:20:11,529 --> 00:20:13,200 C? I'll move 467 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:18,950 approval. Motion to approve or second? I'll second. Okay 468 00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:20,640 thank you. Any discussion? 469 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:26,380 All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. ACM 470 00:20:26,380 --> 00:20:28,519 update. Thank you George. 471 00:20:28,519 --> 00:20:31,809 Mr. Chairman, members of the board, a couple of things to 472 00:20:31,809 --> 00:20:32,720 report. In your 473 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,700 packet there's a city sponsorship request. I believe there 474 00:20:35,700 --> 00:20:36,759 's a couple items 475 00:20:36,759 --> 00:20:41,579 that have been made recently and Tony Puente is here to 476 00:20:41,579 --> 00:20:43,680 provide any details if 477 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,500 you have any questions on on those items. The other items 478 00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:48,759 to bring to your 479 00:20:48,759 --> 00:20:52,279 attention is at the next meeting we'll be welcoming a new 480 00:20:52,279 --> 00:20:53,839 board member Billy 481 00:20:53,839 --> 00:20:57,579 Cheek has been appointed by the council to to serve on the 482 00:20:57,579 --> 00:20:58,960 PUB. The other thing 483 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,430 that we'll be bringing forward will be the selection of the 484 00:21:01,430 --> 00:21:01,960 chair and vice 485 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,700 chair at the next meeting. So if you have any other 486 00:21:05,700 --> 00:21:07,240 questions I'd be happy to 487 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,039 answer those but nothing else to report. 488 00:21:12,079 --> 00:21:19,599 Okay anything to add? New items? Completing items under 489 00:21:19,599 --> 00:21:22,240 section 551.042 490 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,000 of the Texas Open Meetings Act to respond in inquiries from 491 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:26,839 the Public 492 00:21:26,839 --> 00:21:29,730 Utilities Board or the public with specific factual 493 00:21:29,730 --> 00:21:30,640 information or 494 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,809 recitation of policy or accept a proposal to place a matter 495 00:21:34,809 --> 00:21:35,440 on the agenda 496 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:41,759 for an upcoming meeting. So if there's an upcoming meeting 497 00:21:41,759 --> 00:21:43,119 agenda item anybody 498 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:52,000 wants to say? Well I do have something though for you Randy 499 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:52,880 being your last 500 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:57,990 meeting. I'm gonna read what the plaque said. This plaque 501 00:21:57,990 --> 00:21:59,039 is awarded to Randy 502 00:21:59,039 --> 00:22:02,470 Robison from recognition appreciation of 12 years of 503 00:22:02,470 --> 00:22:04,160 valuable contributions and 504 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,740 dedication to the City of Denton Public Utilities Board 505 00:22:07,740 --> 00:22:09,880 given this 27th day of 506 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,680 August 2018. And I'd like to say I worked with you I think 507 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,039 for three years now and 508 00:22:16,039 --> 00:22:20,759 it's been a pleasure. You've shown a lot of leadership 509 00:22:20,759 --> 00:22:23,279 during some difficult times for 510 00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:28,049 solid waste, DME and all of those things. Well it's like 511 00:22:28,049 --> 00:22:30,000 the old joke the last 12 years 512 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:36,410 consisted of the best two years of my life. You will be 513 00:22:36,410 --> 00:22:39,119 missed though. Thank you I 514 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,890 appreciate it. I'm gonna miss this. This has been a great I 515 00:22:43,890 --> 00:22:44,599 mean you do 516 00:22:44,599 --> 00:22:47,599 something for 12 years you you probably need to move along 517 00:22:47,599 --> 00:22:49,519 without a doubt but 518 00:22:49,519 --> 00:22:54,289 it is it's been a great pleasure. We did see you have brown 519 00:22:54,289 --> 00:22:55,440 hair when you started. I 520 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,569 did have brown hair when I started. Probably a little more 521 00:22:59,569 --> 00:23:01,240 of it but anyway 522 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:07,670 it's it's I can't blame it all on PUB though. Some of it's 523 00:23:07,670 --> 00:23:09,400 genetic. 524 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:23,240 Thank you. Mr. Chairman you know last time to say that on 525 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,200 behalf of the city staff 526 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,769 I want to congratulate you on your 12 years of service to 527 00:23:27,769 --> 00:23:29,680 the board. During that 12 years 528 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,559 you've been a part of a lot of a lot of decisions not only 529 00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:33,720 with this board but 530 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,440 passports that have certainly impacted the City of Denton 531 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:37,160 so again 532 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,559 congratulations appreciate you being steady being very 533 00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:41,720 thoughtful in your 534 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,430 comments how you how you facilitated discussions with with 535 00:23:46,430 --> 00:23:47,960 the board and even 536 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,180 tough discussions and appreciate just how you handled 537 00:23:50,180 --> 00:23:51,000 yourself through 538 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,559 leadership that you've emulated to to to throwing staff the 539 00:23:55,559 --> 00:23:56,480 other board and 540 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,009 future board members so again congratulations and on behalf 541 00:24:00,009 --> 00:24:00,400 of the 542 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,869 staff thank you very much for your leadership and looking 543 00:24:02,869 --> 00:24:04,000 forward to seeing 544 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,470 you around I know you serve another capacity so I know we 545 00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:07,240 'll see you soon. 546 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:13,119 Thank you I appreciate that. This doesn't mean that my 547 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,039 electric bill goes up. 548 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:21,039 I had noticed it going down in the last 12 years or so. 549 00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:23,039 Somebody's got to pay for the flat. 550 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:27,039 Is there a motion to adjourn? 551 00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:29,039 I thought you were going to make it. 552 00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:31,039 No I'm not. 553 00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:35,039 Thank you I appreciate it and a second. 554 00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:37,039 All in favor say aye. 555 00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:39,039 Thank you.