WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.320 August 13th 2018 public utility board meeting to order 00:00:07.740 --> 00:00:09.789 We we're gonna take things a little bit out of order this 00:00:09.789 --> 00:00:12.259 morning to start with we have 00:00:13.300 --> 00:00:15.300 Before we go into our work session 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.480 We have quite a few 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:19.960 gentlemen outside that 00:00:20.059 --> 00:00:23.519 We'd like to recognize and I'm gonna let Mario introduce if 00:00:23.519 --> 00:00:24.519 you would 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:28.140 Thank You. Mr. Chairman. Good morning members of the board 00:00:28.699 --> 00:00:31.559 I'm gonna turn it over to George more or our general 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:32.240 manager for 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:35.439 municipal electric to make some introductory comments and 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:38.710 and then allow the the folks out in the hallway to come in 00:00:38.710 --> 00:00:39.340 to be 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:41.759 recognized 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:44.100 Good morning, George Morrow DME general manager 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:47.810 Chair Robinson and the pub. Thank you for the opportunity 00:00:47.810 --> 00:00:47.960 to 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:51.759 recognize our our lineman rodeo teams 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:54.799 they had a great time and 00:00:56.240 --> 00:00:58.920 We're very competitive down in sagin, Texas 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:02.179 Had the opportunity to stop by there myself very hot and 00:01:02.179 --> 00:01:05.819 humid but it was a super event a week of weekend of the 00:01:05.819 --> 00:01:06.079 July 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:09.980 21st we had two journeyman teams and four apprentice teams 00:01:09.980 --> 00:01:12.890 So we had a good group of folks and as part of that we 00:01:12.890 --> 00:01:15.519 provide also some judges for the other folks to 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:19.000 To to see the competition. So I want to introduce 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:22.900 Gonna pass the baton here to Brad Watts Brad's our 00:01:22.900 --> 00:01:24.200 operations line 00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:27.599 superintendent Brad led the team to 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:32.670 very close to super victory and I think he has a little a 00:01:32.670 --> 00:01:33.840 few a 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:37.879 few photos he you might want to show you and he'll 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:38.780 introduce 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:41.519 introduce the folks so 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:49.439 Good morning George that I'm Brad Watts operation line 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:50.400 superintendent and 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:55.189 We did a real good job down there. This is the 22nd annual 00:01:55.189 --> 00:01:56.079 lineman rodeo 00:01:56.599 --> 00:01:59.719 It usually has 20 to 30 utilities that represent 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:03.840 different divisions investor owned municipal contractor 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:06.810 Cooperative and as George said the guys just did an 00:02:06.810 --> 00:02:09.520 outstanding job. It's very competitive down there 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:13.389 This year it was one of the hottest that I've ever seen. It 00:02:13.389 --> 00:02:14.919 was 112 degrees and 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:17.560 These guys were just I mean 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:20.180 Drenched in sweat, but they were working hard and they 00:02:20.180 --> 00:02:21.800 practiced real hard leading up to this 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:24.039 I mean they put in a lot of hours on their own time 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:27.469 During the weekend coming in trying to sharpen their lin 00:02:27.469 --> 00:02:28.960 eman skills up and that's you know 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:31.199 that's a chance you get to show them off down there and 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:34.120 I'll go ahead and introduce the guys 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:49.879 I 00:03:08.319 --> 00:03:10.319 Hear the second we'll get you the face to the left 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:17.699 And as George said it's like this is the 22nd annual we've 00:03:17.699 --> 00:03:20.039 only missed one competition down there 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:23.300 And that was due to note the island was underwater. They 00:03:23.300 --> 00:03:24.460 had a bunch of rain down there 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:27.430 I'm gonna go ahead and introduce I'll start with the rodeo 00:03:27.430 --> 00:03:28.199 coordinator 00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:30.969 This is the guy that just I mean he gets everything set up 00:03:30.969 --> 00:03:33.159 for the team when they need things 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:37.560 Listen events. I mean he's the go-to guy and this Lanny Am 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:38.719 ix and 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:41.479 Then I'll start with the journeyman team 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:44.360 Clinton peak 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:46.000 Cody Schneider 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:49.599 Blake Smith and then our other journeyman team is Tyler 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:49.919 rank 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:52.520 Garrett Dillard 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:54.520 Curtis Espadaugh and 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:58.099 Then we also had our apprentices that went down there 00:03:58.099 --> 00:03:59.240 Jordan Padrone 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:04.599 Gustavo Soto Mitch Hassel and Jack Gray and 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:08.159 Along with competition teams down there 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:11.340 we also it's a big tradition down there that utilities will 00:04:11.340 --> 00:04:15.539 provide a cooking team and they'll cook barbecue ribs bris 00:04:15.539 --> 00:04:16.160 ket and 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:21.589 We took our team down there and that team was Lane Freeman, 00:04:21.589 --> 00:04:24.560 which is lanes out. He just had a baby girl and 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:27.079 then Jason Wilkins and 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:30.470 Then also make the road the rodeo possible because there's 00:04:30.470 --> 00:04:32.600 so many things that factor into the rodeo 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:35.980 They asked the teams to provide judges to go down there 00:04:35.980 --> 00:04:37.240 because I mean these guys are on the pole 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:39.769 But there's also judges that are judging them which we can 00:04:39.769 --> 00:04:41.839 't judge our own people wish we could but we 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:44.279 And those judges were Cliff Knight 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:47.199 Van Emman 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:48.879 Michael Pennington 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:50.800 Dave Dwanell 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:52.399 Ethan Horton 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:54.399 and Ryan Clearman and 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:58.300 Then we got one other guy that we big thanks goes to and he 00:04:58.300 --> 00:05:01.279 's the one that makes sure that our tent get our awning 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:03.399 Get set up so we have somewhere to get out of the out of 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:03.720 the Sun 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:06.240 You know water and Gatorade for the guys 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:10.000 And we call him our logistics man. That's Tim Kudis 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:16.329 And we did very well down there we it's a very stiff 00:05:16.329 --> 00:05:17.519 competition 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:19.750 I mean these guys are great journeyman and they're going 00:05:19.750 --> 00:05:22.160 against great journeyman, but we had 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:25.810 The first team I called out Clinton peak Cody Snyder Blake 00:05:25.810 --> 00:05:29.230 Smith Smith took second place in the journeyman mystery 00:05:29.230 --> 00:05:29.639 event 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:33.079 And one of you guys want to explain what that event was? 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:38.839 I 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:43.160 Think we had to do is work with three pop bang. We had two 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:44.600 jumpers change out on each side 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:50.959 The event time was 15 minutes. We did it in 10 and we were 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:55.040 Two seconds away from third place and not second place 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:55.399 first 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:57.959 So it was a tight race 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:00.279 and then our second team 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:03.639 Which I mean no no special order one or two 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:07.439 But our other team took second place overall overall 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:09.600 journeyman municipal division 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:12.180 So they were the second second best journeyman team down 00:06:12.180 --> 00:06:13.560 there in the municipal division 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:16.920 And that was Tyler rank Garrett Dillard and Curtis Espada 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:19.480 ugh, and that's all their events combined 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:24.709 We were don't think the data. I don't have our our teams 00:06:24.709 --> 00:06:25.680 overall 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:28.360 overall the utilities down there 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:33.389 Ended up. I think fifth overall and sixth overall so I mean 00:06:33.389 --> 00:06:33.519 we 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:37.100 represented it well these guys they worked hard to did a 00:06:37.100 --> 00:06:39.740 lot of a lot of hard work on their own and 00:06:40.259 --> 00:06:41.759 You know when they got down there 00:06:41.759 --> 00:06:44.180 And that you know that work shows when they get back home 00:06:44.180 --> 00:06:46.519 because they learn a lot of safety rules down there 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:49.220 How different utilities are doing things and it just you 00:06:49.220 --> 00:06:52.009 know it helps didn't helps the service that we do provide, 00:06:52.009 --> 00:06:53.240 but they did a great job 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:03.750 On the cooking team we took first place brisket and when 00:07:03.750 --> 00:07:04.079 you 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:10.610 In the cooking world if you win brisket you're that you're 00:07:10.610 --> 00:07:11.600 the king 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:16.040 Right now Denton's the king until we get dethroned 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:24.490 Well all the different teams that provide cooking teams, 00:07:24.490 --> 00:07:27.540 which there's quite a few Jason how many teams were there 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:32.540 60 cooking teams down there well all the food that they 00:07:32.540 --> 00:07:35.800 they cook all that goes towards the brisket dinner 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:39.230 The event the awards dinner that night so everybody's fed 00:07:39.230 --> 00:07:39.759 real well 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:43.639 And I mean it's just a big you know family atmosphere where 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:45.480 all these all the different utilities come together 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:48.389 I mean and they get to they get to be brothers because Ly 00:07:48.389 --> 00:07:49.759 man our brotherhood and 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:53.490 You know one another thing that I really take pride in that 00:07:53.490 --> 00:07:56.160 when when you go compete in these events 00:07:56.720 --> 00:07:59.800 If the chips ever got down here in Denton we know who to 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:01.319 call we got brothers out there 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:04.899 And they'd be here to help us and vice versa will help them 00:08:04.899 --> 00:08:05.639 if they need to help 00:08:06.639 --> 00:08:08.899 I'd I'll let the guys go out, and then I'll show you some 00:08:08.899 --> 00:08:10.379 of the pictures from it 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:13.959 What you're one of the most important 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:27.720 And then this is the journeyman municipal division second 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:34.240 place overall team them getting their trophies and 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:37.940 Then there's our brisket Kings right there 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:41.960 And they do cook a good brisket 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:45.320 Here's one of the events that this is I 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:46.519 Can't see this is Tyler and Garrett on the pole doing one 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:51.840 of their events notice that you know all the cover-up 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:51.840 I mean when they're working up there, they're they're doing 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:55.759 just like they do here 00:08:55.759 --> 00:08:59.110 I mean, they don't change anything. It's you know it's very 00:08:59.110 --> 00:09:00.759 safety oriented and it has to be 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:05.039 And then this is the Curtis on the ground the groundman is 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:07.240 a big vital role in that team because he's the one that 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:07.519 sends 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:10.179 Everything up to the guys on the pole and gets them already 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:14.419 And then here's the other team. This is they were changing 00:09:14.419 --> 00:09:15.679 out disconnects 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:19.720 And 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:23.429 When they that second team when they on that that event 00:09:23.429 --> 00:09:25.519 they they they smoked it 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:28.279 I mean that's very fast the time that they had 00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:31.399 And if y'all got any questions 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:34.370 I'll answer them if not I pre we appreciate the time and 00:09:34.370 --> 00:09:36.259 you know the sport letting us go down there 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:40.690 The most important thing you said was you learn how to do 00:09:40.690 --> 00:09:44.080 it safely and quickly to get the power back on and that's 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:44.840 the biggest 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:46.840 Part of the whole yes ma'am it is 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:48.919 Although the brisk it's probably 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:54.240 Thanks Brad appreciate it thank you 00:09:56.519 --> 00:09:58.519 Okay 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:02.519 Before we go into work session 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:06.899 Want to welcome first of all Karen's Davini our newest 00:10:06.899 --> 00:10:09.340 public utility board member 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:14.019 Welcome to the to the public utility board and hopefully 00:10:14.019 --> 00:10:14.639 you'll 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:22.519 It's 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:26.600 It's it's a it's a good good good board to be on so welcome 00:10:29.279 --> 00:10:31.279 Okay our work session 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:34.720 We're gonna receive a report hold a discussion and give 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:37.799 staff direction regarding proposed updates to the green 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:39.879 sense and incentive program 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:43.490 The green sense incentive program manual and distributed 00:10:43.490 --> 00:10:46.879 generation manual for fiscal year 2018-19 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:54.639 All 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:03.389 Right George Morrow general manager of DMA and I also want 00:11:03.389 --> 00:11:09.720 to thank the new pub board member welcome 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:11.720 Oh, thank you and 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:16.720 also recognize Liz Ruiz over here Liz is the mastermind and 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:20.629 Author and promoter of our green sense program and that was 00:11:20.629 --> 00:11:23.960 one of the first things I looked at when I came to Denton 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:27.629 Work for the utility is hey, what kind of customer programs 00:11:27.629 --> 00:11:30.070 do we have and I was very impressed with the green sense 00:11:30.070 --> 00:11:30.480 program 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:32.480 there's a lot of meat there and 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:37.159 We made a few little tweaks to it. We're here to I guess 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:40.559 Reapprove it for the following fiscal year and here's a 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:43.230 little bit of history. It had been called some different 00:11:43.230 --> 00:11:44.440 things over different time 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:48.309 Today, it's the green sense program. You can see some of 00:11:48.309 --> 00:11:51.860 the changes that were made as it moved through time 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:55.620 Here's the history for this year so far 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:57.840 We've given 00:11:57.840 --> 00:12:01.190 353 rebates for all the different types of things that we 00:12:01.190 --> 00:12:02.440 do help our customers 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:08.029 Accomplish about a hundred thousand dollars so far and the 00:12:08.029 --> 00:12:10.879 PV photovoltaics or solar rebates is at the very bottom 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:13.480 So far this year, there's been 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:18.460 Let's see here 66 actually installed. We have 81 00:12:18.460 --> 00:12:20.720 applications. So there's some to be finished 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:25.830 408 KW which is not bad and there's the rebates that we've 00:12:25.830 --> 00:12:26.039 provided 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:30.200 And basically paid out all of our money, you know committed 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:32.480 all of our funds pretty early in the fiscal year 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:35.639 And that's something we wanted to address during the the 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:37.559 redo of the program 00:12:38.679 --> 00:12:40.710 Here's a little bit of history of some of the different 00:12:40.710 --> 00:12:41.440 things that 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:45.360 Comprised the program you can see we started in F 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:50.120 200,000 for solar rebates last two years. It's been about 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:52.840 300,000, but the rebates as I indicated go pretty quickly 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:58.120 So we're proposing to up that to 500,000 this year. That's 00:12:58.120 --> 00:12:59.240 you know as we 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:03.519 You know stand in the shoes of trying to make 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:06.600 Dent in a green city a renewable city 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:09.539 It just seemed like the right thing to do is to at least 00:13:09.539 --> 00:13:12.200 have enough money for most if not all of the fiscal year 00:13:12.200 --> 00:13:14.200 For everybody that's interested in putting 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:16.360 solar panels on their on their home 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:20.720 So those those are kind of the numbers 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:26.490 The things we're proposing to do the tweaks I'll call them 00:13:26.490 --> 00:13:28.519 for the next fiscal year is one we've added 00:13:29.120 --> 00:13:31.639 Weatherization as a category to get a rebate for so it's 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:33.240 kind of like do-it-yourself 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:37.409 Solarization so you can go buy some different products 00:13:37.409 --> 00:13:38.639 bring us the receipt and 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:42.360 It's fairly modest. I guess in the first year. We're 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:44.120 looking at $50 as a as a rebate 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:48.039 weatherstripping caulk spray foam, etc, but 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:51.789 So that's one of our changes second is that we've been 00:13:51.789 --> 00:13:54.559 providing $300 rebates for electric vehicles 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:57.480 But it wasn't really clear and it's something that Liz and 00:13:57.480 --> 00:14:00.009 I talked about early about whether plug-in electric 00:14:00.009 --> 00:14:01.059 vehicles qualify 00:14:01.059 --> 00:14:04.570 So that would be like the Chevy Volt or Ford Focus that 00:14:04.570 --> 00:14:05.960 have a small engine 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:09.059 But you know the batteries do provide a lot of the of the 00:14:09.059 --> 00:14:11.600 propulsion and we said, you know what? 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:15.639 Let's do it. Let's let's clarify that to 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:19.289 Going forward that plug-in electric vehicles also qualify 00:14:19.289 --> 00:14:22.559 for that rebate because they have the same benefit to the 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:22.919 utility 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:25.750 You know, they've become a customer. They use a lot of off- 00:14:25.750 --> 00:14:26.159 peak energy 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:30.539 Off-peak energy consumption is good for us as a rate rate 00:14:30.539 --> 00:14:30.940 item 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:35.200 standard offer incentive changes for commercial accounts 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:38.570 Seemed like it was very restrictive as as I reviewed it 00:14:38.570 --> 00:14:39.519 this past year 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:42.720 There was a 200 KW minimum peak so you had to be a fairly 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:45.000 large customer to take advantage of this 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:47.519 incentive and 00:14:47.519 --> 00:14:51.100 We just went ahead and removed that limitation though. 00:14:51.100 --> 00:14:54.919 There is still embedded in the program a 50 KW 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:58.440 Project, you know if you do a project and we provide 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:01.039 incentives for that it needs to be at least 50 KW 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:04.240 So so it has some bulk but it didn't seem like it was 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:06.320 necessary to have the 200 KW 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:09.450 And also we had some tiered rebates in one category. We did 00:15:09.450 --> 00:15:09.840 a hundred 00:15:10.600 --> 00:15:13.340 Dollars per KW and another hundred twenty five. We just 00:15:13.340 --> 00:15:15.399 kind of made it flat hundred and twenty five dollars 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:19.399 So for anything and so it's very flexible. I actually like 00:15:19.399 --> 00:15:19.960 that a lot 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:23.639 Commercial customers can propose almost anything that gives 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:24.039 us a KW 00:15:24.779 --> 00:15:28.720 reduction and peak load and we verify that analyze it and 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:32.950 Then we can provide the rebate to them. So I mentioned 00:15:32.950 --> 00:15:33.879 already the 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:37.879 I guess that's a typo down there that should say 500 K for 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:39.159 solar systems and 00:15:40.120 --> 00:15:42.720 type that hot off the press this morning and 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:46.460 And then we modified the solar rebates because in fact that 00:15:46.460 --> 00:15:50.360 they were going so quickly we thought okay, let's have more 00:15:51.659 --> 00:15:53.659 opportunity and 00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:56.360 Instead of 75 cents per watt 00:15:56.840 --> 00:15:59.759 We looked at a tiered system where we pay a little bit more 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:03.659 for the smaller system and then a little bit less for the 00:16:03.659 --> 00:16:04.039 larger 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:05.919 systems and 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:09.470 You'll see probably very few systems over 10 KW unless they 00:16:09.470 --> 00:16:12.460 're commercial take a W would be a very large home 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:15.159 program so I think for 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:17.779 Residential customers most are going to probably fall in 00:16:17.779 --> 00:16:19.399 the three to five KW range 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:22.350 I'll actually get a little more incentive with that and you 00:16:22.350 --> 00:16:24.960 can see we did the same thing with if you install solar 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:25.840 with a battery 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:29.490 There's not actually too many of them Liz. What about two 00:16:29.490 --> 00:16:30.600 so far this year 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:33.419 So that hasn't really taken off yet battery is still 00:16:33.419 --> 00:16:36.450 extremely expensive and the business case for battery is 00:16:36.450 --> 00:16:38.259 still a little bit questionable 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:41.019 We don't have off-peak rates yet 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:43.940 So there you know, what do you charge it with and we do 00:16:43.940 --> 00:16:47.019 give you credit for surplus solar no matter what time it is 00:16:47.019 --> 00:16:49.809 So you don't have to put it in a battery to get credit for 00:16:49.809 --> 00:16:50.000 it 00:16:50.039 --> 00:16:54.389 We keep track of that and we'll we'll move that around and 00:16:54.389 --> 00:16:57.399 let you offset some other usage at a different time frame 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:01.080 So that's actually a good a good program, but there are 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:03.620 some that want to put batteries in I think one 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:06.460 advantage of a battery is if you had a power outage which 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:09.819 does happen once in a while with some of the crazy weather 00:17:09.819 --> 00:17:11.019 we have out here and 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:13.420 You can you know 00:17:13.420 --> 00:17:15.640 You can draw the power out of that battery to keep your 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:18.200 lights on while we're out there getting getting the repairs 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:18.539 done 00:17:18.539 --> 00:17:20.539 so so that's a 00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:22.960 pretty much the 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:26.910 Nuts of it. Okay. Yes. Oh, I'm sorry. I just had a question 00:17:26.910 --> 00:17:27.319 about 00:17:28.279 --> 00:17:32.160 the 57 participants we had have had 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:35.240 Where would they fall in the? 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:39.079 Size of the system. It would be the three to five 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:44.160 Cool. I mean as Liz if she's got any any details 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:47.759 Come on up. Yeah 00:17:57.680 --> 00:17:59.680 This year we had 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:01.440 varied between 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:04.680 four KW and 10 KW with with the 00:18:05.359 --> 00:18:08.369 Price of solar coming down. You'll see a little bit more 00:18:08.369 --> 00:18:10.920 larger systems coming on the residential side 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:14.279 Their size a little bit larger also for the homes 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:19.069 But it it does vary between four and ten KW five and six is 00:18:19.069 --> 00:18:20.200 the average 00:18:20.680 --> 00:18:22.680 Okay 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:25.920 Thank you. You know another reason for ramping down maybe 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:29.599 the solar rebate as you get to a larger size is that solar 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:29.799 is 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:33.130 basically economic today the costs have dropped 00:18:33.130 --> 00:18:34.480 dramatically, so 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:37.750 Incentives for a lot of electric utilities are not as 00:18:37.750 --> 00:18:38.480 necessary 00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:41.779 We had a 10-year incentive program in California which 00:18:41.779 --> 00:18:44.759 started at a high level and then it we were forced to lower 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:45.599 it every year 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:46.960 And it finally went away last year 00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:49.880 so you can't get a solar rebate in California anymore 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:52.000 because basically the industry is is 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:56.220 Mature and commercial and it's not really necessary. So but 00:18:56.220 --> 00:18:58.839 we still do it. We want to give folks 00:18:59.279 --> 00:19:02.079 You know some additional incentive to do that 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:07.400 Okay questions comments 00:19:08.680 --> 00:19:12.480 so the applications received 81 with the 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:16.480 Small requirements or the tiered 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:21.200 Size would all 81 of those have been I 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:25.680 Guess that combined with increasing the dollar amount to 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:29.000 so all the applications I 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:33.799 Guess the question I'm asking is if there were 00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:38.200 57 participants and we had 81 sorry 00:19:39.559 --> 00:19:41.720 She doesn't let me see the rebate applications 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:47.839 Go ahead oh, I'm just I'm just wanting to 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:50.799 clarify all the 81 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:54.920 Residential and commercial that we received applications 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:57.519 Would all of those have been? 00:19:58.799 --> 00:19:58.799 Applications approved based upon the increase in the five 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:04.319 to five hundred thousand and plus the tiered 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:08.509 The smaller system. Yes had the tiered rebate been in place 00:20:08.509 --> 00:20:09.240 this year 00:20:09.240 --> 00:20:11.769 We would have been able to do the 81 plus the one 00:20:11.769 --> 00:20:14.849 commercial the 82 and we would have ran out of funds at the 00:20:14.849 --> 00:20:15.480 beginning 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:17.480 of July 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:22.900 So the tiered is gonna allow us to help more people do 00:20:22.900 --> 00:20:23.880 solar right 00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:28.230 Very good point. I like that. Yeah, it's making it more 00:20:28.230 --> 00:20:29.400 accessible to 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:33.670 Okay, more people. Yeah, and then so we have that changed 00:20:33.670 --> 00:20:36.200 so as you indicated we would be able to provide a lot more 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:36.839 rebates 00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:39.579 With the tearing system and then we double down with the 00:20:39.579 --> 00:20:42.880 additional money to make sure that we can handle 00:20:43.240 --> 00:20:46.269 The interest that's out there and that was already included 00:20:46.269 --> 00:20:49.640 in the budget in the it is now in the budget 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:52.559 Okay. Yeah, I was confirmed that this morning. It's there 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:52.799 and 00:20:54.400 --> 00:20:56.400 We're gonna pretty good 00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:02.450 Okay in the plugins how many have we had people get rebates 00:21:02.450 --> 00:21:04.259 yet on the on the cars 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:10.230 Well, I had a Prius before having a Prius was sexy back in 00:21:10.230 --> 00:21:12.200 2006 so I'm just curious 00:21:13.440 --> 00:21:16.950 We have not for this fiscal year, but I did receive last 00:21:16.950 --> 00:21:20.549 week two applications for it. So those will fall. Okay this 00:21:20.549 --> 00:21:21.140 year 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:24.359 Thank you. Yeah, I think we had a little harsher 00:21:24.359 --> 00:21:27.079 interpretation of what was in the program 00:21:27.299 --> 00:21:31.650 Which is you had to be all electric so like a leave. Okay, 00:21:31.650 --> 00:21:33.440 Tesla those kinds of things and 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:36.240 Didn't 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:38.339 Seem like now we're gonna have a broader interpretation is 00:21:38.339 --> 00:21:40.599 the clarification that we're making so as 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:43.680 As a basically this point in time 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:47.279 Okay, I might have a hard time giving three hundred dollars 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:49.640 to somebody who can afford to Tesla. So I don't know 00:21:50.279 --> 00:21:52.279 I was trying to think of another all-electric 00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:55.279 Fiat 00:21:56.759 --> 00:21:58.759 Okay 00:21:58.960 --> 00:22:00.960 Any other questions I 00:22:01.400 --> 00:22:03.079 think 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:06.349 You know what I'm hearing is I think everybody likes the 00:22:06.349 --> 00:22:08.000 increased accessibility 00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:11.859 Increased dollar amount. I think that's great. I'd be 00:22:11.859 --> 00:22:13.480 curious at some point 00:22:14.279 --> 00:22:16.279 to know 00:22:18.440 --> 00:22:20.440 How it compares to 00:22:23.480 --> 00:22:28.000 You know how much dollars we allocate to this compared to 00:22:28.920 --> 00:22:33.269 You know say other utilities around the area. I think we'll 00:22:33.269 --> 00:22:34.720 find we spend more per 00:22:35.480 --> 00:22:37.279 per customer 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:40.039 Per meter, I guess if you will everybody want to count it 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:42.829 Liz may have that information, but let us put that together 00:22:42.829 --> 00:22:45.720 for you and yeah to a report and we'll ship that out 00:22:46.240 --> 00:22:48.440 and one of the Friday reports and 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:54.119 You know going forward so we're going to be taking a hard 00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:55.720 look at the program this next year 00:22:56.079 --> 00:22:59.150 See if you know to take it up another notch is sort of what 00:22:59.150 --> 00:23:00.039 I'd like to do 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:04.000 This year we have sort of a depleted staff Liz Liz is the 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:05.319 staff at the moment 00:23:05.559 --> 00:23:08.690 we've promoted a couple of our folks into other jobs in the 00:23:08.690 --> 00:23:12.920 city and we're hiring some some replacement folks that 00:23:13.319 --> 00:23:16.059 At even a higher level to kind of bring some more 00:23:16.059 --> 00:23:18.559 experience and background into the program more excitement 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:19.700 and we'll try to 00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:22.759 We try to take it to the next level next year. So that 00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:24.079 should be a little more exciting 00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:26.720 Than this year 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:29.799 Okay, thank you George. Thank you 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:35.240 Okay 00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:38.890 We're also under our closed meeting this the item that's on 00:23:38.890 --> 00:23:41.279 there does not require any action 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:44.500 So what we'll do is if we can't move that to the end of the 00:23:44.500 --> 00:23:45.000 meeting 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:48.119 So we'll go right into our regular meeting now 00:23:49.079 --> 00:23:52.900 And start with the consent agenda and would ask if there's 00:23:52.900 --> 00:23:53.240 any 00:23:54.119 --> 00:23:56.559 Any board member who would like to have? 00:23:57.319 --> 00:23:59.319 any of these items a B 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:02.240 CVE F 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:07.920 G or H pool for individual consideration. I'd like item F 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:08.539 pulled 00:24:13.880 --> 00:24:16.880 And I don't see Ethan so I hope there's somebody else 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:20.599 Okay, all right 00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:23.440 so item F 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:26.900 Would anybody else like anything else pool for individual 00:24:26.900 --> 00:24:27.880 consideration? 00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:35.309 Okay hearing none then is there a motion on the consent 00:24:35.309 --> 00:24:36.920 agenda I 00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:40.279 Recommend approval 00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:44.339 We have a motion to approve and a second any discussion 00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:49.799 All in favor say aye aye any opposed 00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:55.559 Okay individual consideration we have item F 00:24:57.440 --> 00:25:00.119 And I am sure there's a good explanation 00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:08.700 In looking at all the documentation it looks like we're 00:25:08.700 --> 00:25:12.369 gonna be paying a lot more for 30 days when there was an 00:25:12.369 --> 00:25:12.519 alternative 00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:14.079 to pay 00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:16.079 $9,000 to rent one 00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:17.519 and 00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:20.380 And I get the whole compaction that that we're gonna save 00:25:20.380 --> 00:25:21.440 in the landfill space 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:24.869 But I I just still thought that maybe there's a little bit 00:25:24.869 --> 00:25:26.799 too much money being left on the table 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:31.150 So and just for clarification, did you ask about the 00:25:31.150 --> 00:25:32.200 possibility of renting a unit? 00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:35.490 I saw in the documentation that somebody proposed we could 00:25:35.490 --> 00:25:37.500 rent one for nine thousand dollars a month 00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:42.170 Because we're really just gaining 30 days basically correct 00:25:42.170 --> 00:25:44.680 . Yeah, there's hundreds whatever and 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:48.450 And just to walk through the the presentation really quick 00:25:48.450 --> 00:25:50.599 that the the point that you made is 00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:56.769 Correct. We are in a pretty bad situation right now with 00:25:56.769 --> 00:25:57.079 our 00:25:57.720 --> 00:26:01.009 826 is both of those units are down part of the reason is 00:26:01.009 --> 00:26:03.710 that they had some specialized wheels added to them that 00:26:03.710 --> 00:26:04.119 actually 00:26:05.319 --> 00:26:08.809 Were heavier and required some of them screening that would 00:26:08.809 --> 00:26:10.519 normally be in place to actually 00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:13.480 remove the material 00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:17.680 To be they were taken off and so we're pulling a lot of 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:20.470 material into our differentials and causing a lot of 00:26:20.470 --> 00:26:21.240 breakdowns 00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:24.000 so since about June 30, we've been basically 00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:30.069 Using a bulldozer as a means of compaction, which is not a 00:26:30.069 --> 00:26:31.039 good long-term solution 00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:33.400 It's hard on that equipment and it's also not a very 00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:36.960 efficient compactor. The 836 is are the ones that 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:42.190 were put in place by are recommended to be put in place by 00:26:42.190 --> 00:26:43.160 Blue Ridge and 00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:47.170 Can handle a little bit more versus a little bit less as a 00:26:47.170 --> 00:26:50.759 unit of the average waste that we're that we're getting and 00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:54.220 So you're absolutely correct the airspace savings 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:58.039 with regards to the remainder of the fiscal year is 00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:02.720 Substantial between the two units we're getting about 300 a 00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:04.599 little bit less than 300 00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:10.000 pounds per cubic yard out of the 836 so at an average of 00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:13.299 145 tons per day that really adds up and probably the 00:27:13.299 --> 00:27:14.319 biggest issue 00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:18.099 Is the one that's that's here at the bottom at five years 00:27:18.099 --> 00:27:19.880 of operation of an 836 00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:23.190 We'll actually gain about 11 months of additional landfill 00:27:23.190 --> 00:27:23.480 time 00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:28.630 Compared to the use of the 830s or 826s rather with the 00:27:28.630 --> 00:27:29.279 heavier wheels 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:31.920 so 00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:35.759 looking at the net benefit loss as you stated 00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:41.279 By gaining that estimated period of time. We'll be able to 00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:45.799 More than make up the the difference between the units the 00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:47.000 the cat is also 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:52.039 a competitive vid versus a quote like we got for the BOMAG 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:53.799 and and all John because it's on a 00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:58.150 Cooperative buy board and then we've also got a preference 00:27:58.150 --> 00:28:01.559 for the cat units because they're the ones that we have 00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:03.960 used in the past so 00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:07.900 That was our rationale for getting the 00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:10.039 giving the 00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:11.279 staff 00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:13.640 Direction of proceeding with the purchase of the Caterp 00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:17.700 illar model 836 with regards to a rental 00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:19.839 I'm gonna have to rely on 00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:24.710 Randall Morris the landfill manager. I think that the short 00:28:24.710 --> 00:28:26.000 answer to that is that the 00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:28.960 availability of those 00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:32.279 Compactors is is such that we would not be able to likely 00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:35.680 get one in but I'll I'll let Randall go on to the details 00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:38.680 Good morning 00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:41.880 During this a quoting process BOMAG 00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:45.670 Has offered us they are taking in a it's a smaller compact 00:28:45.670 --> 00:28:48.079 or. They're taking in in on trade 00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:50.880 Through their process and they said they could have it 00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:54.720 available for us to rent here in the near future 00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:57.700 It's not available right now as we speak, but it will be 00:28:57.700 --> 00:28:59.000 available in the future 00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:02.029 Hopefully we'll have one of our machines back up and 00:29:02.029 --> 00:29:02.880 operational 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.789 Before that before the need for that one or before it's 00:29:05.789 --> 00:29:08.000 available. I guess I would like to say 00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:19.660 So where where do the numbers for the 00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:22.400 efficiency of the 00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:24.519 836 K and the 00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:28.779 airspace savings who did who did those numbers? 00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:32.299 It was actually Scott Libsack and Lee and we and I helped 00:29:32.299 --> 00:29:33.839 out with it a little bit 00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:35.819 We got a bunch of the numbers out of the Caterpillar 00:29:35.819 --> 00:29:36.880 performance handbook 00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:40.740 And I also got a spreadsheet from Holt Kat on what the 836 00:29:40.740 --> 00:29:44.000 was capable of, you know doing compaction wise 00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:46.519 Okay, so you're comfortable. Yes, sir 00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:50.900 Yes, sir, okay, okay, and the 836 was the recommendation 00:29:50.900 --> 00:29:53.660 out of the solid waste consulting. Yes 00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:57.079 I mean I agree with the 00:29:57.440 --> 00:29:59.970 Model that you're gonna be using and to stay with Caterp 00:29:59.970 --> 00:30:02.720 illar because then you don't have you know 00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:04.960 Two different parts and fleet and all that. Yes 00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:07.880 I just needed to ask the question 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:11.339 Because that was a and the 826 is are actually overworked, 00:30:11.339 --> 00:30:13.279 you know per our tonnage that we take per day 00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:17.630 They're way overworked the one 836 can almost take the 00:30:17.630 --> 00:30:20.519 place of two 826 is that we have basically 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:24.880 Thank you, thank you you're welcome 00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:28.799 You think else I will move approval 00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:33.150 Just had to ask we have a motion to approve item F second 00:30:33.150 --> 00:30:36.200 and a second any further discussion 00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:40.119 All in favor say aye. Aye any opposed 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:45.250 Next we have item a which is consider approval to public 00:30:45.250 --> 00:30:49.640 utility board meeting minutes of July 23rd 00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:52.759 2018 00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:56.599 Sorry, okay, that's all right 00:30:57.039 --> 00:30:59.839 We have a motion to approve the minutes. Is there a second? 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:02.960 second and a second 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:05.599 discussion 00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:11.460 Okay, all in favor say aye. Aye any opposed any abstentions 00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:15.920 Okay, thank you 00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:21.420 Item B is to consider recommending adoption of an ordinance 00:31:21.420 --> 00:31:22.720 of the city of Denton, Texas 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.539 Authorizing the city manager or his designee to execute an 00:31:26.539 --> 00:31:29.960 advanced funding agreement in the amount of six million 00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:34.500 864 thousand nine hundred seventy nine dollars and ninety 00:31:34.500 --> 00:31:35.019 eight cents 00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:37.960 by in between the state of Texas 00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:40.740 Acting through the Texas Department of Transportation and 00:31:40.740 --> 00:31:43.640 the city of Denton regarding water and wastewater 00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:44.599 improvements 00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:47.279 associated with the US 00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:50.240 377-roadway widening project 00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:53.839 That was the short version of that catch. Oh, thank you. I 00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:56.559 appreciate that. Could we not have squeezed two more cents 00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:56.759 out? 00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:01.670 Good morning members of the pub. I'm Chad Allen deputy city 00:32:01.670 --> 00:32:02.200 engineer 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:04.730 And yes, my presentation is about the four-orth drive 00:32:04.730 --> 00:32:07.859 utility relocations project and it's associated with the 00:32:07.859 --> 00:32:08.640 text dot us 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:12.349 377-roadway widening project. Welcome to the BV. Good 00:32:12.349 --> 00:32:12.640 morning 00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:19.059 Specifically I'm going to ask that you approve the 00:32:19.059 --> 00:32:21.900 execution of an advanced funding agreement in a fa 00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:24.519 It's between the city of Denton and text dot and it's 00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:27.740 regarding our water and wastewater utilities that have to 00:32:27.740 --> 00:32:28.559 be moved out of the right 00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:29.660 of way 00:32:29.660 --> 00:32:34.009 The amount of the agreement is six point eight six million 00:32:34.009 --> 00:32:34.500 dollars 00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.779 I'm going to talk about that later in the presentation 00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.519 But we're gonna make two payments in the agreement 00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:42.660 The first payment is going to be paid from city of Denton 00:32:42.660 --> 00:32:44.900 funds and the amount of three point eight six million 00:32:44.900 --> 00:32:45.440 dollars 00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:48.680 And then we expect to receive additional RTR funding 00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:51.849 regional total revenue funding from net cog and the amount 00:32:51.849 --> 00:32:53.720 of three million dollars to complete 00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:54.599 the 00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:56.599 agreement 00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:00.089 So this map shows the limits of the text up project it 00:33:00.089 --> 00:33:03.119 starts on the north end at I 35 East and it extends to the 00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:03.359 south 00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:06.019 South of Country Club Road or FM 1830 00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:09.089 Text out is going to widen the two-lane road to a six lane 00:33:09.089 --> 00:33:11.880 concrete roadway with the raised median 00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.660 They're gonna install traffic signal improvements at 00:33:14.660 --> 00:33:15.799 various intersections 00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:18.779 They're going to construct a storm drain system and replace 00:33:18.779 --> 00:33:19.880 the roadside ditches 00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.490 And then they're gonna build sidewalks along both sides of 00:33:22.490 --> 00:33:24.640 the roads road throughout the project limits 00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:28.039 Before any of that happens, we have to move our utilities 00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:30.660 outside of the text out right of way. So 00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:34.160 We're gonna move all of our utilities so that they do not 00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.019 conflict with the text on improvements any of the text out 00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:39.920 Improvements and every now and then we're gonna construct 00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:42.259 new crossings of water and sewer lines across the right of 00:33:42.259 --> 00:33:42.440 way 00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:45.319 We have to do all of that before text. Dot can start the 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:46.119 roadway work 00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:50.000 In order to pay for that we have to enter into an advanced 00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:52.279 funding agreement because we're putting our 00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:55.180 Construction plans in with the text out plans and it's 00:33:55.180 --> 00:33:56.680 going to be one bid package 00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:59.680 We hired a consultant they designed our plans 00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:03.319 We combined them with the text dot plans and then they bid 00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:06.319 it out to a contractor and the text out contractor is going 00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:06.640 to build 00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:08.559 our utility work 00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:10.539 We're gonna pay for that with the advanced funding 00:34:10.539 --> 00:34:10.980 agreement 00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:14.369 We're gonna give money to text out upfront so that they can 00:34:14.369 --> 00:34:17.039 pay their contractor to move our utilities 00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:23.420 So on July 9th, I brought a draft version of the advanced 00:34:23.420 --> 00:34:26.239 funding agreement here to PB for your consideration 00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:30.139 At the time the amount of the aFA was based on our 00:34:30.139 --> 00:34:32.460 consultants construction cost estimate 00:34:32.460 --> 00:34:35.760 And at the time on July 9th, we estimated the cost to be 00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:38.119 three point two million dollars 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:43.690 The very next day the very next day after I told you it was 00:34:43.690 --> 00:34:46.480 gonna be three point two million dollars text dot received 00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:48.599 bids for the project 00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:51.639 There were nine bids for the project the low bidder for the 00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:53.960 overall project was SEMA construction, Inc 00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:57.230 They had a total bid of forty three point six two million 00:34:57.230 --> 00:34:59.900 dollars that includes all of the roadway work and the 00:34:59.900 --> 00:35:00.559 utility work 00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:04.260 So here's a list of the bids SEMA's listed on top. They're 00:35:04.260 --> 00:35:07.000 the low bidder their overall bid was low 00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:10.340 Was the lowest and it's forty three point six two million 00:35:10.340 --> 00:35:10.920 dollars 00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:14.019 Unfortunately when you looked at their bid and you took you 00:35:14.019 --> 00:35:15.960 looked at the public utility items 00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:19.179 They had a very high bid for the public utility work six 00:35:19.179 --> 00:35:21.000 point one million dollars 00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:23.820 Which was almost three million more dollars than what we 00:35:23.820 --> 00:35:25.940 anticipated the public utilities to cost 00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:29.239 So I just wanted to show you that all of the utility bids 00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:30.360 aren't that high 00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:33.079 Bidder number four Austin Bridge and Road had a three point 00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:35.280 five million dollar bid for the public utility work 00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:37.920 We know them more as a utility contractor 00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:41.769 Their numbers were very close to our estimates, but we're 00:35:41.769 --> 00:35:43.480 obligated to pay as part of the F 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:46.760 AFA six point one million dollars for the utility 00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:50.599 improvements because text dot has to select this low bidder 00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:51.760 SEMA construction, Inc 00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:57.599 So right when the bids were opened we realized the utility 00:35:57.599 --> 00:35:58.880 numbers are very high 00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:02.059 Unfortunately, all of our the other stakeholders in the 00:36:02.059 --> 00:36:03.539 project realize the same thing 00:36:03.539 --> 00:36:06.059 we immediately reached out to text out with our concerns 00:36:06.059 --> 00:36:07.980 about the high bids for the utility work and 00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:11.920 Text on and net cog and Denton County and us at the city 00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:14.820 We all agree that the low bidder the overall low bidder for 00:36:14.820 --> 00:36:18.239 the project had unreasonably high bids for the utility work 00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:18.599 . So 00:36:19.179 --> 00:36:21.960 We went to text on and net cog for a solution 00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:23.800 Everyone agreed that yes 00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:27.039 those it's those costs are unreasonable and that we and so 00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.079 what net cog proposed to do was to go to the regional 00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:31.360 transportation council and 00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:34.840 Seek approval of an additional three million dollars in RTR 00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.840 funding to cover the cost of the additional utility work 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.739 So all of our stakeholders are on board with that solution 00:36:40.739 --> 00:36:43.039 at the October 2018 meeting 00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:46.170 We fully expect the additional three million dollars in RTR 00:36:46.170 --> 00:36:48.480 funds to be approved for use on this project 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:54.840 Seema's bid for the utility work is this number right here 00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:57.429 6.1, but that's not all we're obligated to pay as part of 00:36:57.429 --> 00:36:58.000 the aFA 00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:01.059 Text out asked us to add additional costs and basically it 00:37:01.059 --> 00:37:04.239 amounts to 12% additional on top of the utility bid 00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:07.869 It's 2% for barricades 5% for mobilization and 5% for 00:37:07.869 --> 00:37:12.380 contingency. So the total amount of the aFA is the utility 00:37:12.380 --> 00:37:12.440 bid 00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:16.500 Plus an additional 12% which winds up being six point eight 00:37:16.500 --> 00:37:17.679 six million dollars 00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:19.519 again 00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:22.260 The city will be obligated to pay three point eight six 00:37:22.260 --> 00:37:24.880 million and then we expect to get additional funding 00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:27.960 RTR funding from net cog that makes up the other three 00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:28.480 million 00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:31.030 So this is how it's proposed to work and this is the 00:37:31.030 --> 00:37:33.400 agreement that text is going to sign with us 00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:36.550 The advanced funding agreement sets out the terms and 00:37:36.550 --> 00:37:39.110 conditions for payment and right now it says that we're 00:37:39.110 --> 00:37:39.800 gonna make two incremental 00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:43.469 Payments to the state the first one we will pay right after 00:37:43.469 --> 00:37:43.840 hopefully 00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:47.099 Pub agrees to the aFA and so does council tomorrow will 00:37:47.099 --> 00:37:50.199 immediately send a check to text out in the amount of three 00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:51.659 point eight six million dollars 00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:54.909 After that we'll receive the additional funding from net 00:37:54.909 --> 00:37:57.119 cog of three million dollars and we'll make the final 00:37:57.119 --> 00:37:58.159 payment to text dot 00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:01.400 honor before February 16th after we receive those 00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:02.519 additional funds 00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:06.550 So we expect this to be the total amount of money that we 00:38:06.550 --> 00:38:07.719 have to pay for the project 00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:10.500 The only reason we would have to pay more than the six 00:38:10.500 --> 00:38:13.369 point eight six million is if we ask the contractor to do 00:38:13.369 --> 00:38:14.199 additional work 00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:17.360 If we asked for a change order and we requested it we would 00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:18.119 have to pay for that 00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:20.519 But right now we think the total amount we're gonna have to 00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:22.480 pay is the six point eight six million dollars 00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:25.239 So 00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:27.769 What I'm asking you to do is to recommend adoption of an 00:38:27.769 --> 00:38:29.880 ordinance that allows the advanced funding agreement to be 00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:32.159 executed between the city and 00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:35.750 text dot in the amount of six million eight hundred and 00:38:35.750 --> 00:38:37.719 sixty four thousand nine hundred and seventy nine dollars 00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.780 And ninety eight cents for the Fort Worth Drive utility 00:38:40.780 --> 00:38:43.570 relocation project and I'll be happy to answer any 00:38:43.570 --> 00:38:45.079 questions if you have any 00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:50.800 Questions I have one what if we don't get the three million 00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:51.679 dollars 00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:55.000 That's a good question 00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:57.400 I can't tell you one hundred percent that we're going to 00:38:57.400 --> 00:38:58.039 get the money 00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.780 But all of our stakeholders including Michael Morris and 00:39:00.780 --> 00:39:02.519 net cog and Denton County and text dot 00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:05.639 They attend the RTC meetings and they vote at the meetings 00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:08.199 and we have all of their support to get this funny 00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:11.059 Everyone realizes that this is such a very important 00:39:11.059 --> 00:39:12.880 project for the overall region 00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:15.869 Everyone's on board to making the project happen and if we 00:39:15.869 --> 00:39:17.480 don't get those additional funds 00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:20.699 It's going it could cause serious delay in the project 00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:24.219 Text dot could probably have to bid the project again or 00:39:24.219 --> 00:39:25.920 some other solution would have to happen 00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:29.579 No one in the region wants that to happen. No one wants 00:39:29.579 --> 00:39:30.800 this project not to happen 00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:33.320 I'm very certain 00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:36.969 For the utility work was so high because that's not what 00:39:36.969 --> 00:39:37.480 they do 00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:41.539 Exactly. That's exactly it. So on that list there was big 00:39:41.539 --> 00:39:42.639 roadway contractors 00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:45.239 And then there was more contractors who do a lot of utility 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:45.519 work 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:48.400 We feel like a big roadway contractor won the project 00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:51.840 They are gonna hire a subcontractor to the utility work 00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.469 that subcontractor came in with high prices and then the 00:39:54.469 --> 00:39:55.639 general marked it up again 00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:58.820 Yeah that or they use the utility work 00:39:58.820 --> 00:40:01.239 Which is done in the very front of the project to just get 00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:03.519 more cash on hand at the beginning of the project 00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:06.000 Sometimes contractors do that. Yeah, I feel like it's a 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:07.480 combination of those two things 00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:14.360 So the advanced funding agreement is not contingent upon 00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:18.920 Or is it contingent upon receiving approval? 00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:25.480 That's that's correct basically all it says is we will make 00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:27.599 two payments the first one immediately 00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:31.599 3.86 million and then the second they delayed the date 00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:34.559 until after we would get the funds approved from the RTC 00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:35.960 and after we would receive 00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:38.300 Those funds and so we don't have to make that second 00:40:38.300 --> 00:40:41.019 payment until February. I'm very confident. We're gonna get 00:40:41.019 --> 00:40:42.260 that additional three million dollars 00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:47.619 Miss Chad mentioned we do expect the funds to come from cog 00:40:47.619 --> 00:40:49.559 , but for some reason that would not occur 00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:52.880 As you know, we're approving the agreement. We are on the 00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:53.639 hook for the project 00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:56.000 We'd come back with a solution of potentially how to rest 00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:58.300 ructure our capital program or how to come up with those 00:40:58.300 --> 00:40:59.239 funds internally 00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:01.400 We don't expect that to be the case 00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:03.400 But if it were we'll come back to you with a solution and 00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:05.559 talk that through give you those options 00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:14.429 It's the entire project is gonna take two to two and a half 00:41:14.429 --> 00:41:15.800 years so 00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:19.579 They're expecting to start in November of 2018. So it'd be 00:41:19.579 --> 00:41:22.360 November 2020 or early 2021 00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:28.199 The utilities will be done first in about 11 months 00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:35.980 Should be green it is green there you go. That's it now. It 00:41:35.980 --> 00:41:38.679 's always been green 00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:50.440 I don't really see we have a whole lot of 00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:53.760 Choices here really 00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:01.710 Dollars that we I mean how badly would it impact all of our 00:42:01.710 --> 00:42:03.699 capital projects? Yeah 00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:08.869 Well, that's certainly a lot of money it would have an 00:42:08.869 --> 00:42:10.760 impact at this point 00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:14.090 We're proceeding thinking that we're going to get the funds 00:42:14.090 --> 00:42:16.920 from the RTR and from cog as we've described to you 00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:20.210 But it would be an impact. Absolutely for some other 00:42:20.210 --> 00:42:22.590 projects, but we'd hopefully be able to restructure 00:42:22.590 --> 00:42:23.480 projects brings 00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:26.250 Maybe delay some other projects that we had and bring funds 00:42:26.250 --> 00:42:29.130 forward to make this happen. This is a priority project for 00:42:29.130 --> 00:42:29.280 us 00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:33.199 It's ready to go and it's long long overdue 00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:38.349 I don't suppose the public utility portion can be extracted 00:42:38.349 --> 00:42:40.880 from the overall bid and bid separately 00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:43.440 so 00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:47.150 It would be possible to take that work out and rebid it 00:42:47.150 --> 00:42:49.920 again and constructed it by some other methods and not use 00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:50.400 the textile 00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:53.170 Contractor, but that would cause about 18 months of delay 00:42:53.170 --> 00:42:54.320 for the textile project 00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:57.030 Then they would have to rebid their project and in 18 00:42:57.030 --> 00:42:59.679 months their prices are gonna be way more higher than this 00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:00.079 additional 00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:03.820 $3 million for the job. Everybody understands that and that 00:43:03.820 --> 00:43:06.750 that delay would really hurt them much more financially 00:43:06.750 --> 00:43:07.500 than this would 00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:13.599 And just to lighten it how will I get to mr. Frosty? 00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:19.760 We need to make sure there's a good detail 00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:23.760 Hopefully text on is considered that 00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:27.360 Well, I 00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:29.360 think this this is a 00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:33.119 Big project and it's been it has been on the drawing board 00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:36.480 for a long time. I know we've talked about it in 00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:39.360 bond committees for probably 00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:42.599 20 years and 00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:47.800 You know text dot is bearing the brunt of the cost of 00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:50.840 It's a much more 00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:54.650 much better project than then, you know, if we were of 00:43:54.650 --> 00:43:58.090 course we couldn't really widen the state road anyway, but 00:43:58.090 --> 00:43:58.599 I know 00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:01.809 Some of the history of it is it goes back to the 00:44:01.809 --> 00:44:05.639 replacement of the railroad underpass text dots 00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:08.280 taking all that 00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:11.239 cost on 00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:14.960 So yeah, it's it is what it is 00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:18.639 It's the I'm on now, right? 00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:23.429 Is the 3.8 coming out of the most recent bond or is it what 00:44:23.429 --> 00:44:25.400 where the funds coming for the three? 00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:28.639 So these are utility bonds utility revenue funds 00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:32.829 There's money in the accounts to pay for that 3.8 6 million 00:44:32.829 --> 00:44:34.760 today. We have to send text out a check 00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:37.239 Immediately after the City Council meeting tomorrow 00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:41.099 Well, it sounds like you're confident the other three 00:44:41.099 --> 00:44:42.960 millions gonna come I'm very confident 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:44.960 I don't want y'all to think that that's not gonna happen 00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:47.880 Okay 00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.199 I'm excited about the project. Like you said, yeah 00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:53.280 I was disturbed by this little hiccup, especially after 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:56.590 since it happened right after the last pub meeting that was 00:44:56.590 --> 00:44:56.880 a shame 00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:58.880 But we're about to get it resolved 00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:02.239 And it sounds like a good solution. So 00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:05.960 Okay, well the comments 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.199 Do we have a motion then on item B 00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:13.920 I'll move approval 00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:17.719 Motion and a second to approve item B 00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:23.599 Any discussion I just want to recommend I don't want to 00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:24.079 sound like 00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:27.889 Doomsday here, but I'd like to recommend that we start 00:45:27.889 --> 00:45:31.260 thinking about other options for funding before October 00:45:31.260 --> 00:45:32.000 rolls around 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:34.699 You know just so that we're not caught by it 00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:38.159 That's a good idea. That's a good point 00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:45.460 Okay, any other discussion all in favor say aye aye any 00:45:45.460 --> 00:45:46.559 opposed 00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:50.599 Okay, thank you 00:45:55.760 --> 00:46:00.110 Next we have item C which is ACM update. Good morning. Mr. 00:46:00.110 --> 00:46:01.119 Chairman members of the board 00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:05.920 Not much to report in your packet. There is a memo that 00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:09.800 Indic that provides you a summary of all the utility rate 00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:13.800 decreases and that are being recommended for fiscal year 00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:18.880 1819 the only area that is not being decreased is the 00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:21.639 is the 00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.239 Excuse me is within the water fund. So all the other items 00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:28.940 Utilities electric wastewater solid waste are all being 00:46:28.940 --> 00:46:30.719 decreased for this next fiscal year 00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:33.590 So if you have any questions, we have representatives from 00:46:33.590 --> 00:46:36.000 finance here that can help answer any any detailed 00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:37.199 questions that you may have 00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:41.460 But very good news for didn't repairs this next year 00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:44.280 nothing further 00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:46.920 Very good 00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:54.300 Okay, we will before we go into closed session I guess we 00:46:54.300 --> 00:46:56.099 'll ask through any 00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:01.219 Concluding Adams under section 551 00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:05.159 102 the Texas Open Meetings Act is to respond to inquiries 00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:08.630 from the public utilities board or the public with specific 00:47:08.630 --> 00:47:09.559 factual information 00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:13.099 Arrest station of policy or accepted proposal to place a 00:47:13.099 --> 00:47:16.059 matter on the agenda for an upcoming meeting 00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:19.840 I just have a quick question 00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:27.110 Mine is really a simple question. I don't know if it falls 00:47:27.110 --> 00:47:28.800 under those guidelines there 00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.590 But it does does anybody know if Spencer station came 00:47:31.590 --> 00:47:33.760 online when it got really hot last month 00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:38.360 I'd heard that Spencer station was being mothballed 00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:41.139 But when I rode by there on my scooter the other day it 00:47:41.139 --> 00:47:43.739 felt like the cooling towers were operating 00:47:43.739 --> 00:47:46.150 But I don't know you might have we handle that in closed 00:47:46.150 --> 00:47:47.199 session. I have an answer 00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:51.469 Okay, given that somebody else's power plant and whether it 00:47:51.469 --> 00:47:54.110 runs or doesn't run is kind of competitive in the 00:47:54.110 --> 00:47:54.960 marketplace 00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:59.360 Just over but it was really just an observational question 00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:01.639 I don't really need to know if it was performing well or 00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:04.440 anything like that on or off I guess but that's okay 00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:07.679 I'm just so no we do okay. We'll catch it right away. That 00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:09.119 's not on the agenda for today 00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:11.250 But we can look at trying to give you some information. 00:48:11.250 --> 00:48:13.469 Okay. Well, I guess I just thought maybe it fell under 00:48:13.469 --> 00:48:14.719 factual information 00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:17.119 Yes, it was on no, it wasn't 00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:22.510 Okay, okay then mine is on July 23rd in the Wall Street 00:48:22.510 --> 00:48:25.480 Journal there was an article on 00:48:26.440 --> 00:48:29.690 Russian hackers reach US utility control systems Homeland 00:48:29.690 --> 00:48:31.599 Security officials say so 00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:34.820 Can we have a report on what we're doing to make sure that 00:48:34.820 --> 00:48:35.760 that isn't? 00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:38.619 happening, I don't know that probably has to be closed 00:48:38.619 --> 00:48:40.760 session, but you know check with Larry and 00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:43.820 Obviously, we don't want everybody to know what we're doing 00:48:43.820 --> 00:48:45.840 . But I'd like to know what we're doing 00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:50.559 At least when I was doing something right 00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:57.000 Okay, any other items for future agenda or for future 00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:58.639 agenda items 00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:04.920 Okay, if not we will convene the 00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:09.639 Closed session at 00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:15.159 948 to consider the following items