WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.120 I'll go ahead and call the Monday, June 11, 2018, 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:08.160 public utility board meeting to order. 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:12.960 And we do have some guests here related 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:16.320 to one item that's under individual consideration. 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:19.839 So rather than going into closed and doing that first, 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:22.079 we'll go ahead and take-- 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:28.440 as our first item will be item B under the-- 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:32.439 individual consideration part of the agenda. 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:35.000 And that's to consider recommending adoption 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:37.479 of an ordinance of the city of Denton, Texas, the Texas 00:00:37.479 --> 00:00:37.719 Home 00:00:37.719 --> 00:00:41.000 Real Municipal Corporation, authorizing the city manager 00:00:41.000 --> 00:00:42.960 to execute a professional services agreement 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:45.439 with Nelson and Morgan Architects 00:00:45.439 --> 00:00:48.399 for the architectural design services 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:52.399 for renovation of service center and 651 Mayhill 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:56.079 as set forth in contract that's included in our backup. 00:00:56.079 --> 00:01:01.200 So I think Mario is going to do the presentation on this. 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:02.679 Mr. Chairman, members of the PUB, 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:03.880 thank you for having me here. 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:06.840 Mario Kanazaro, assistant city manager. 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:08.719 I wanted to present a number of slides 00:01:08.719 --> 00:01:13.599 to you to talk about our service center project 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:18.439 along with the renovations to 651 Mayhill. 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:21.959 Back in February, we made this very similar presentation 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:22.840 to the city council. 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:25.079 And then we followed up with a presentation 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:27.799 to the public utilities board in March. 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:31.680 And the issues that we covered that day or that morning 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:33.840 were the history of the service center, 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:36.200 just to kind of give you some background on that, 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:39.870 the fact that the facility was built in 1980 or opened in 00:01:39.870 --> 00:01:40.560 1980 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:43.879 and it's been expanded a few times. 00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:47.120 But we're out of space for city operations. 00:01:47.120 --> 00:01:49.359 And it's very difficult, nearly impossible, 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:54.680 to expand unless you add additional square footage to it. 00:01:54.680 --> 00:01:57.599 Also talked about how we came up with some alternatives. 00:01:57.599 --> 00:01:59.120 Staff came through some alternatives 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:02.560 looking at some other facilities that the city owned 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:05.560 and the opportunity to move some existing operations out 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:08.919 of the service center into another nearly vacant facility 00:02:08.919 --> 00:02:13.000 to allow us to expand within the service center. 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:15.199 And we also talked about the financial implications. 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:17.539 So I'm going to cover some of those slides here shortly. 00:02:17.539 --> 00:02:23.960 And then at the end, go through the proposal, not at length 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:23.960 , 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:27.960 but just briefly cover the proposal that was presented. 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:30.000 Because at the conclusion of those two meetings 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:33.639 back in February and March, both boards, both groups 00:02:33.639 --> 00:02:35.120 provide a recommendation to staff 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:38.159 to go and seek some design options 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:40.080 to bring forward as a contract. 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:43.439 And so what we're doing here is just presenting to you 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:46.159 a proposal from Nelson Morgan Architects 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:50.120 that if the PUB gives us direction to move forward, 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:53.740 we'll make the same presentation to the city council. 00:02:53.740 --> 00:02:56.159 So just to kind of give you a quick overview of the service 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:58.840 center campus, it's 46 acres in size. 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:00.240 It includes a number of facilities 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:02.960 located off of Mingo Road and industrial area. 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:04.800 It includes all of our field operations, 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:05.960 with the exception of DME. 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:08.080 DME actually did originate there, 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:12.000 but over time has moved out of the service center. 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:13.960 And so while there is a support function there 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:16.680 at the service center through the radio operations, 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:19.960 DME does not have a physical presence there at the moment 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:21.719 as far as staffing and equipment. 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:24.120 They do have some of their supplies 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:26.280 that's administered through materials management, 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:27.639 our purchasing function. 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:30.479 But as far as having a physical presence there on site, 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:32.319 they do not have that. 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:36.400 Also our fleet services division is housed there 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:38.960 at the service center in a separate facility 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:42.000 where they operate and manage and maintain 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:43.360 all of our fleet vehicles. 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:46.120 And we also have some areas where we have dirt, 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:49.419 fill materials that's used, various construction projects, 00:03:49.419 --> 00:03:51.719 maintenance projects throughout the city for city 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:52.479 operations. 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:56.780 The two facilities that we're talking about this morning 00:03:56.780 --> 00:03:58.960 and that we've been focusing on is the service center 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:01.080 and the traffic operations building. 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:03.240 These are the slides that you saw back in March. 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:06.159 And to give you a few statistics here, 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:07.719 the service center, as I mentioned earlier, 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:09.219 was built in 1980. 00:04:09.219 --> 00:04:11.240 The traffic operations building actually was built 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:14.120 in the 1960s with a different use, 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:16.899 was actually our original animal shelter. 00:04:16.899 --> 00:04:19.560 Back in 1980, the population of Denton 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:22.439 was just under 50,000. 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:26.079 And currently, 2016, 2017, 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:30.839 certainly we've exceeded 135,000 people by now 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:33.079 with the amount of growth that we've had in our community. 00:04:33.079 --> 00:04:37.079 And also too, just some other quick hits as far as facts, 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:40.800 back in 1980, the city was about just under 33 square miles 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:43.720 and we're just now under 100 square miles in size. 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:46.480 And so, and then lastly, the staffing when it was opened 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:48.720 back in 1980 was 110. 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:50.800 And the service center now houses, 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:54.399 at least as of 2017, 250 plus employees. 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:57.040 And so, and I would imagine it's been more 00:04:57.040 --> 00:04:59.000 because we've been able, we've added staff 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:01.500 over the last number of months 00:05:01.500 --> 00:05:03.040 through a variety of operations 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:05.000 and streets and engineering. 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:12.839 Again, another visual of the service center houses, 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:17.120 as I mentioned, just under just over 250 employees. 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:19.759 It is cramped for space, there is no room for growth 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:22.139 unless you build out from the building itself. 00:05:22.139 --> 00:05:24.120 But again, as I mentioned before, 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:28.600 we came up with some options that the PUB and the council 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:32.399 felt were favorable based on utilizing existing space. 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:34.319 One of the key complaints that I hear 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:36.360 from a facilities management perspective 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:39.399 is a lack of restrooms at the service center, 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:42.680 plus just a configuration of those restroom facilities. 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:46.199 As I mentioned to the PUB and the council, 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:49.639 as you walk into, and you'll see some pictures 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:52.920 here in a minute, as you walk into the service center lobby 00:05:52.920 --> 00:05:52.920 , 00:05:52.920 --> 00:05:55.819 the restroom facilities, both male and female, 00:05:55.819 --> 00:05:58.680 are just behind a wall. 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:01.160 But when you walk into those restroom facilities, 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:06.160 it's your typical toilet and laboratory fixtures, 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:10.399 but you also have shower facilities there too. 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:13.519 So it's not the most inviting thing when you have 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:17.199 the public or consultants or contractors come in 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:20.319 doing business there, and we do have a lot of, 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:22.079 quite a bit of visitors that come in and out 00:06:22.079 --> 00:06:24.019 for various meetings, bid openings, 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:27.560 pre-construction meetings, et cetera. 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:32.220 And when you join those functions with a, 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:35.120 I would call it more of a private facility 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:37.139 when it comes to restroom, with public facilities, 00:06:37.139 --> 00:06:38.639 it just doesn't intermix well. 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:42.079 So it's not very user-friendly for the public 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:42.920 nor the staff. 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:46.959 To give you some pictures here, this was shown back, 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:49.319 again, back in the spring. 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:50.959 And again, I'm not gonna go through every picture, 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:54.800 but as you can see, these are crammed spaces. 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:56.560 The staff actually has been very creative 00:06:56.560 --> 00:06:59.759 in utilizing bay space for some areas 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:02.639 where employees could eat lunch or take breaks 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:04.399 or have staff meetings. 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:07.720 And some of the areas here where my cursor is, 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:11.680 if you can see this, this is the parks area. 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:13.720 And this is actually a break room. 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:15.839 It's kind of the far corner, but back here 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:20.839 where my cursor is is a stove and a sink 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:23.480 with refrigerators in the corner. 00:07:23.480 --> 00:07:26.839 But as you can see, these are basically permanent fixtures 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:29.079 for the most part, these tables. 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:33.120 And this is where our crew leaders and supervisors 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:34.100 have their offices. 00:07:34.100 --> 00:07:35.639 So it's pretty crammed. 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:39.639 And so if you're trying to have a meeting with staff, 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:42.160 you're dealing with food and other things. 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:44.600 And so again, they're just trying to be creative 00:07:44.600 --> 00:07:47.399 utilizing the maximizing the amount of space they have. 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:49.839 Here below is a locker room area, 00:07:49.839 --> 00:07:52.560 which has also been converted into meeting space, 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:55.350 because again, there just isn't any meeting space to be had 00:07:55.350 --> 00:07:55.720 . 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:57.439 And in the front here, right in the front center 00:07:57.439 --> 00:07:59.000 is that lobby area that I mentioned to you. 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:01.339 There's this wall next to the stairs. 00:08:01.339 --> 00:08:02.540 There's no one there to greet you. 00:08:02.540 --> 00:08:05.839 So if you're looking to go upstairs to visit 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:07.759 with someone from purchasing, 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:09.240 unless you know that it's upstairs, 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:10.360 there's no one really to greet you 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:13.480 and direct the incoming public or contractor 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.920 to let them know where to go and help them facilitate 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:19.279 and navigate through the facility. 00:08:19.279 --> 00:08:20.879 And then the bottom is that restroom facility 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:21.720 that I mentioned. 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:24.579 Again, the back there is the shower curtain 00:08:24.579 --> 00:08:28.399 along with the restroom stalls and the laboratory fixtures. 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:30.720 So again, just kind of give you a perspective 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:34.179 of the conditions that our service center employees are in. 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:38.840 When we visited back in the spring, 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:41.580 this is the layout of the first and second floor 00:08:41.580 --> 00:08:42.759 of the service center. 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:46.259 And as you can see, there's a number of different functions 00:08:46.259 --> 00:08:48.080 and operations here at the service center. 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:51.080 And one of the largest areas that encompasses 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:52.799 a lot of the square footage of the space 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:55.759 is materials management, just under 30,000 square feet. 00:08:55.759 --> 00:08:59.159 And actual in purchasing on the second floor, 00:08:59.159 --> 00:09:02.000 purchasing administration, Karen and her team, 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:05.480 the buyers and some of the admin staff 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:07.679 operate here on the second floor. 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:09.960 And this actually, the thought is that these folks 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:13.759 would stay, but the thought is if we had the opportunity 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:16.399 to move 30,000 square feet of space 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:18.399 into another existing facility, 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:22.279 that would allow us to have the space to move into. 00:09:23.139 --> 00:09:27.840 It's level, it's tall, and so there's plenty 00:09:27.840 --> 00:09:29.080 of room for growth. 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:33.200 And so again, that's one of the options that we considered. 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:35.720 And so the thought would be is to move 00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:40.740 that 30,000 square feet, 30,000 square foot space 00:09:40.740 --> 00:09:42.480 over to 651 Mayhill. 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:48.399 Again, to talk about the traffic operations building, 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:50.519 as I mentioned, it was built in the 1960s. 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:53.559 It's approximately 4,000 square feet size 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:57.120 square foot facility. 00:09:57.120 --> 00:09:59.580 It's a former animal shelter two times over. 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:04.279 And we are in a newer animal shelter facility 00:10:04.279 --> 00:10:06.759 and the former animal shelter facilities 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:09.320 have been repurposed now a couple of times. 00:10:10.220 --> 00:10:13.440 It's been utilized by traffic since the mid 80s. 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:16.039 We house approximately nine full-time equivalents, 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:17.240 nine employees there. 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:20.399 While it does have a garage area, 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:22.960 it really has no vehicle bays because basically 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:25.320 that's where they store some of their trailers. 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:27.840 So they really can't keep any of their equipment indoors 00:10:27.840 --> 00:10:29.000 out of the elements. 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:33.840 So it's, for the most part, it's either under an awning 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:34.840 or out in the elements. 00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:38.120 So that's critical for some of our equipment that we have 00:10:38.120 --> 00:10:40.919 is to keep it indoors or at least in a bay area 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:43.559 to keep it protected from the elements. 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:47.159 Again, it's crammed, there's really no room to grow. 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:49.360 And it's not designed for new technology 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:51.559 just based on where the facility is 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:55.340 and the type of equipment that's in there now. 00:10:57.159 --> 00:10:58.840 Some visuals to give you an idea 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:01.200 of what's inside Traffic Ops. 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:03.759 This is here where my cursor is, is that bay area. 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:05.480 You can see that garage door, 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:07.360 but that's where they keep one of their trailers 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:09.080 and they keep their signs and markings 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:11.120 and other inventory in there. 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:15.840 So again, not enough room to pull in a pickup truck 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:18.639 or some of their other equipment that they need 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:22.159 to operate to do their jobs. 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:24.000 And so again, very cramped for space 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:28.279 and the technology just isn't functioning there. 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:31.500 It's not really suitable for new technology in that 00:11:31.500 --> 00:11:32.080 building. 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:37.519 So in that slide earlier that I showed 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:40.360 with the materials management at 30,000 square feet, 00:11:40.360 --> 00:11:42.600 the thought was if we could move materials management 00:11:42.600 --> 00:11:46.960 out of the service center into a facility 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:48.519 that's currently owned by the city, 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:52.480 Solid Waste, it was purchased a number of years ago. 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:54.519 It was a former Department of Defense warehouse. 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:56.080 I believe that my understanding 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:58.240 of that history of that facility 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:01.559 is when soldiers would be deployed overseas, 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:03.360 they would keep their belongings there, 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:06.279 vehicles, other personal belongings that could be created. 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:07.200 They were housed here. 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:09.639 So again, it's basically a warehouse space. 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.019 And so the thought is, it's 81,000 square feet of space. 00:12:13.019 --> 00:12:14.960 The thought is if we could move materials management 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:17.919 into this space, retrofit it as necessary 00:12:17.919 --> 00:12:21.080 with the racks and offices and other restroom facilities 00:12:21.080 --> 00:12:25.679 that are required to maintain a functioning operation, 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:28.480 why not utilize an underutilized space? 00:12:29.580 --> 00:12:32.919 And again, allow us to use valuable space 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:36.879 to move some of our operations into the service center. 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:39.679 And secondarily, if we could also, 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:44.000 knowing that traffic operations needed space 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:47.360 and they were actually part of the 2014 bond package 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:49.840 to build them a new operation center, 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:53.460 why not utilize 10,000 square feet of the space here 00:12:53.460 --> 00:12:57.559 at 651 Mayhill and move that operation over there as well? 00:12:57.559 --> 00:13:02.320 So that way you have materials management in this 651 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:04.559 along with traffic operations. 00:13:06.159 --> 00:13:10.759 So that was, again, just kind of give you a perspective 00:13:10.759 --> 00:13:14.700 of just a visual of this square footage. 00:13:14.700 --> 00:13:18.200 Again, not drawn to scale, but 61,000 square feet 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:22.120 of materials management would be at the 651 facility 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.720 and then traffic would operate 10,000 square feet. 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:27.480 Still leave about 10,000 for future expansion, 00:13:27.480 --> 00:13:29.320 whether for materials management or for traffic 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:30.539 or for some other operation 00:13:30.539 --> 00:13:33.179 that might be needed here at the city. 00:13:33.179 --> 00:13:35.480 But that was the thought and that was basically 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:38.159 the presentation that was made to PUB and the council 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:41.720 and along with the project cost. 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:45.360 And so just to kind of give you an opportunity 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:47.559 to read through all the numbers. 00:13:47.559 --> 00:13:50.919 All in, if we were to do all of these projects, 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:55.639 it's just over, just under $14,500,000. 00:13:55.639 --> 00:13:59.559 That includes construction, design, furniture and fixtures, 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:02.200 any development fees, any type of flat work 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:05.080 that would be required at the service center 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:08.700 or at 651 Mayhill 'cause there would be the need 00:14:08.700 --> 00:14:11.399 to build some parking, also a lay down yard, 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:14.000 which would allow some equipment to be placed 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:16.879 on concrete outdoors. 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:22.480 So all in, it's 14,500,000. 00:14:23.320 --> 00:14:28.320 3,300,000 would be for the traffic operations function. 00:14:29.960 --> 00:14:34.879 I'm sorry, 3,300,000 would be for materials management. 00:14:34.879 --> 00:14:38.279 2 million, just under 200,000 for traffic 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:41.080 and then just under $9 million for the service center. 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:45.360 So these were the slides and again, 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:48.240 these have been condensed some to not go 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:51.080 through every single slide that was presented 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:55.279 to PUB and council but was presented back a few months ago. 00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:58.080 And then overall, based on this information, 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:00.820 both the PUB and the council directed staff 00:15:00.820 --> 00:15:04.679 to go and seek a request for qualifications 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:09.679 to select a design firm to do the architecture 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:14.320 and design of both 651 and at the service center. 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:17.919 So since then, this is what we've done. 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:19.960 Working with purchasing, they did issue 00:15:19.960 --> 00:15:23.200 a request for qualifications for architectural services. 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:25.600 We did receive seven proposals. 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:28.320 Staff did receive seven proposals 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:33.320 from a variety of firms, design firms, architectural firms. 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:37.000 A selection committee was convened. 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:40.399 They reviewed the qualifications of all seven firms 00:15:40.399 --> 00:15:44.159 and based on the recommendations of that committee, 00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:47.240 they selected Nelson Morgan Architects of Denton 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:49.700 to be the architecture record for these projects. 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:54.559 Based on negotiations with Nelson Morgan 00:15:55.960 --> 00:16:00.960 to do all three facilities, design all three facilities, 00:16:01.659 --> 00:16:06.659 it came out to $918,402.53. 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:11.960 As you can see, this is the top graph here. 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:16.960 This top chart is their design proposal 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:21.279 for the three different facilities. 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:24.080 And then below these two, on the bottom, 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:26.200 I've broken out the cost so you can see them 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:28.799 by respective facility, by respective building. 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:32.360 And I know there's been discussions, 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:34.480 certainly with council, about design fees 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:36.299 and the cost of design fees. 00:16:36.299 --> 00:16:38.919 So I wanted to make sure that the PUB 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:40.840 and then the council will see this as well. 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:43.519 You can see the breakdown of the cost 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:48.519 of what the consultant is proposing for this project. 00:16:48.519 --> 00:16:51.679 The majority of the fees are for Nelson Morgan, 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:54.960 but there are also some fees that need to go to, 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:58.639 whether it's mechanical engineers, structural engineers, 00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:00.720 civil, things of that nature. 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:02.860 And so I wanted to break those down as well 00:17:02.860 --> 00:17:06.339 so you can see what's being proposed for this project. 00:17:08.380 --> 00:17:11.960 Based on that, this is basically my presentation. 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:15.359 I just wanted to present this to you all as promised 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:20.200 that we believe that this is the best way 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:22.240 to move forward and move ahead 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:23.680 and get started on these projects. 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:28.680 Again, the staff and the space is, we need to expand, 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:33.480 we need to add some additional space for operations. 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:35.960 We think this is the most expeditious manner 00:17:35.960 --> 00:17:38.240 in which we can get this done 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:42.119 and not require major expenditures 00:17:42.119 --> 00:17:45.420 because of additional facilities that might need to be 00:17:45.420 --> 00:17:45.720 built. 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:48.160 It allows us to utilize existing space. 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:51.119 It allows us to move pretty quickly 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:53.039 and not have to know the interior facilities 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:54.079 that are already there. 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:58.599 And allows us to move ahead and get going on this. 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:02.640 And then hopefully get into these facilities 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:04.059 within the next year. 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:07.759 Any questions? 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:08.599 - Questions. 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:13.000 - I was looking at the breakdown of the funding services. 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:18.000 So is the traffic operations is coming from the bond fund 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:21.440 because that bond, when that was voted on, 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:25.279 that was about roads and traffic? 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:26.480 - Well, there was an actual, 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:29.039 I believe there was an actual proposition 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:31.480 for a traffic operations building 00:18:31.480 --> 00:18:34.240 in the 2014 bond program. 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:38.039 It was part of an overall transportation. 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:39.880 - Okay, okay, thanks. 00:18:39.880 --> 00:18:41.559 I hadn't remembered that specifically there. 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:43.880 And then if you could just explain kind of why 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:48.880 the decision to have the service center come from revenue 00:18:50.920 --> 00:18:53.599 and then from materials to come from CO. 00:18:55.019 --> 00:18:58.160 - Well, my understanding on materials management 00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:02.980 with the certificates of obligation, 00:19:02.980 --> 00:19:06.759 there are some COs that are available in solid waste 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:09.319 because it is gonna be a solid waste facility. 00:19:09.319 --> 00:19:11.440 Then materials management through, 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:15.480 it would be basically paying solid waste back 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:17.880 through lease payments on an annual basis or monthly basis, 00:19:17.880 --> 00:19:19.079 however it is calculated. 00:19:20.119 --> 00:19:23.599 So the thought would be to be able to provide that funding 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:27.259 and then pay back the solid waste fund for the asset. 00:19:28.460 --> 00:19:30.799 As far as revenue funded capital, 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:32.720 those are some available funds that are available 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:34.799 in a variety of different departments, 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:39.359 whether it's water, wastewater, streets, and drainage. 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:42.359 And so the revenues are available in those respective funds 00:19:42.359 --> 00:19:46.240 to be able to at least fund the design 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:47.680 of the service center. 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:50.160 And then once we bring forward the construction documents 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:52.920 and do some cost estimation with our consultant, 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:55.000 we'll bring forward that to the board 00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:57.039 along with the council to get further direction 00:19:57.039 --> 00:19:59.079 on how to proceed before we go to bed 00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:02.640 and make sure that we're good on our numbers 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:04.359 and they're comfortable with the numbers. 00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:08.740 - Yeah, that was my, the point I wanted to raise was, 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:13.519 I know the traffic operations building 00:20:13.519 --> 00:20:18.519 was part of the 2014 GEO bond proposal. 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:26.160 But I guess once we see what the cost really is, 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:28.279 we'll come back and look at, okay, 00:20:28.279 --> 00:20:32.359 how's this gonna be funded going forward. 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:34.119 Also, the other thing I wanted to point out 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:37.480 is it looks like when we did the project, the estimate, 00:20:39.400 --> 00:20:40.839 I'm not sure when this was done, 00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:42.920 but it looked like the design fees 00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:48.440 in the estimate was about a million, 149. 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:54.559 And so this actual contract is less than that. 00:20:54.559 --> 00:20:56.000 So it's under budget. 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:56.839 - Yes, sir. - I wanna point that out 00:20:56.839 --> 00:20:57.880 as well. - Under the budget estimate. 00:20:57.880 --> 00:20:59.099 Yes, sir. - Yeah, okay. 00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:04.440 Any other questions, comments? 00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:07.339 - I have one, remind me why this is the pub issue. 00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:12.480 - Why it's being brought before the Public Utilities Board? 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:16.559 Because it houses water, wastewater, drainage, 00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:18.440 and we wanted to make sure that we brought it forward 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:22.160 just to present it to you and get your recommendation 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:23.700 if you believe it's important 00:21:23.700 --> 00:21:25.940 because of those funds that are being used. 00:21:25.940 --> 00:21:27.079 And you will receive those, 00:21:27.079 --> 00:21:29.880 and you provide guidance and direction on those budgets. 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:33.599 And because also it's a solid waste facility as well. 00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:39.039 - I have a question on the evaluation. 00:21:39.039 --> 00:21:42.640 They're very close, a 99 and a 95. 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:47.640 What was the past experience that gave one person a 40? 00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:51.599 - Well, the past experience, and I was not on the panel. 00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:53.720 So I was not on the evaluation panel. 00:21:53.720 --> 00:21:56.839 But Nelson Morgan has assisted the city 00:21:56.839 --> 00:21:58.079 over the last number of years 00:21:58.079 --> 00:22:02.000 with our facilities master plan. 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:05.359 So they're very familiar with the city facilities. 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:11.240 They understood the need of getting these facilities 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:11.240 designed 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:13.599 and constructed as soon as possible. 00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:15.920 They had already done some of the legwork 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:20.160 when it came to understanding the number of staff 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:23.079 that would be added over the next number of years. 00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:24.480 So they had done some legwork. 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:29.480 So not to have to start from scratch helped. 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:33.640 And so that's what gave this firm the leg up. 00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:35.880 - All right, thank you. 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:40.160 - Okay, any other questions? 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:42.279 Do we have a motion then on item B? 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:45.839 - I'll move. 00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:47.720 - Second. 00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:48.559 - I have a motion and a second. 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:50.519 I'm assuming for approval. 00:22:50.519 --> 00:22:51.680 - Yes, move approval. 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:53.119 Thank you, Randy. 00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:54.079 - Thank you. 00:22:54.079 --> 00:22:55.160 Any discussion? 00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:57.839 All in favor say aye. 00:22:57.839 --> 00:22:58.680 - Aye. 00:22:58.680 --> 00:22:59.500 - Any opposed? 00:22:59.500 --> 00:23:00.339 Same sign. 00:23:00.339 --> 00:23:03.339 Okay, thank you, Mario. - Thank you. 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:09.240 - Okay. 00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:17.029 So at this time, there are some things on the consent 00:23:17.029 --> 00:23:17.519 agenda 00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:21.759 that we do have related to some closed meeting items. 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:26.759 So at this time, we will convene into a closed session 00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:30.519 to discuss three items. 00:23:32.059 --> 00:23:35.519 Item A is deliberations regarding real property 00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:39.119 to discuss, deliberate, and receive information from staff 00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:40.759 and provide staff with direction 00:23:40.759 --> 00:23:43.119 pertaining to the potential purchase 00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:44.599 of certain real property interest 00:23:44.599 --> 00:23:46.279 out of the Alexander Hill server. 00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:54.000 Okay, it's about 16 minutes after 10 on June 11th. 00:23:54.359 --> 00:23:56.599 We're back into open session. 00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:03.160 In our regular meeting, first we have our consent agenda. 00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:07.880 There are four items on the consent agenda. 00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:12.880 I would ask if any member would like to have any of these 00:24:13.400 --> 00:24:15.599 pulled for individual consideration. 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:21.000 - I would like to have item B pulled. 00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:22.000 - Pulled, okay. 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:27.000 - I had just, full disclosure, I plan to vote against it 00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:29.359 for reasons I had stated before. 00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:32.359 So I myself don't need a whole new presentation on it, 00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:33.799 but if others would like that. 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:34.640 - Okay. 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:38.279 Any other item? 00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:48.680 No? - No. 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:50.240 - None, okay. 00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:55.240 Then is there a motion for approval or motion on, 00:24:55.839 --> 00:25:00.839 excuse me, items A, C, and D on the consent agenda? 00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:03.740 - I move for approval. 00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:05.799 - Second. 00:25:05.799 --> 00:25:08.319 - We have a motion and a second for approval 00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:10.480 of items A, C, and D. 00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:11.500 Any discussion? 00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:15.039 All in favor say aye. 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:15.940 - Aye. - Aye. 00:25:15.940 --> 00:25:16.900 - Any opposed? 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:23.140 Very good, motion passes on items A, C, and D. 00:25:23.140 --> 00:25:25.880 Item B, which we'll look at individually, 00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:28.400 is consider recommending adoption of an ordinance 00:25:29.500 --> 00:25:32.200 of the city council, of the city of Denton, 00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:34.079 Texas Home Real Municipal Corporation, 00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:38.539 providing for, authorizing, and approving the execution 00:25:38.539 --> 00:25:40.920 by the city manager or his designee 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:44.039 of a base contract for sale and purchase 00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:46.880 of natural gas between the city of Denton 00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:48.539 and Conoco Phillips Company. 00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:56.720 Okay, you had questions or comments? 00:25:57.799 --> 00:26:01.880 - No, I had stated my reasons before. 00:26:01.880 --> 00:26:02.720 - Sure. 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:05.079 - They still stand. 00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:08.259 - Okay, very good. 00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:13.079 Any other questions or comments about item B? 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:17.759 Do we have a motion on item B? 00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:19.480 - Move approval. 00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:20.440 - I second. 00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:22.680 - Motion and a second for approval. 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:25.200 Any further discussion? 00:26:26.700 --> 00:26:28.200 All in favor say aye. 00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:29.039 - Aye. - Aye. 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:30.079 - Any opposed? 00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:31.079 - Nay. 00:26:31.079 --> 00:26:32.240 - One nay. 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:35.079 Okay. 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:41.720 Next we have under individual consideration 00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:45.599 the consider approval of the public utilities board 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:48.720 meeting minutes of May 21st, 2018. 00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:52.519 Those draft minutes have been distributed 00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:56.410 and would ask if there's any changes, suggestions, 00:26:56.410 --> 00:26:57.519 questions? 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:00.559 Alteration? 00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:04.759 Okay, not as there are motion to approve as submitted. 00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:06.880 - So moved. 00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:09.619 - Motion and-- 00:27:09.619 --> 00:27:10.460 - Second. 00:27:10.460 --> 00:27:12.000 - Second, thank you. 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:13.119 Discussion? 00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:14.400 All in favor say aye. 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:15.240 - Aye. 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:16.079 - Any opposed? 00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:17.200 Same sign. 00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:20.799 Okay, we've already taken care of item B on this section 00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:24.940 so we'll go to item C, which is consider recommending 00:27:24.940 --> 00:27:27.519 approval of an ordinance of the city of Denton, Texas 00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:30.720 the Texas Home Rural Municipal Corporation, 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:32.640 authorizing the city manager to execute 00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:35.400 a professional services agreement with Burgess 00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:40.000 and Niple Inc. for design services of the Morse Street 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.759 Loop 288 to Mayhill Road Street Improvement 00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:46.900 as set forth in the contract and providing 00:27:46.900 --> 00:27:49.079 the expenditure of funds therefore 00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:52.720 and providing an effective date for design services 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:55.480 ordered to Burgess and Niple Inc. 00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:59.160 and the Inoptic Suit amount of $255,000. 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:03.200 - Good morning, I'm Chad Allen, Deputy City Engineer 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:05.200 and I have a brief presentation about the Morse Street 00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:07.000 expansion project. 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:09.599 The limits are between Loop 288 and Mayhill Road. 00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:13.940 So I'm here to ask that you consider approving 00:28:13.940 --> 00:28:17.279 a professional services agreement with the city of Denton 00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:18.680 and Burgess and Niple Inc. 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:22.200 in the not to exceed amount of $255,000. 00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:24.920 We're bringing it to PUB because that not to exceed amount 00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:29.480 includes $24,350 in utility funds for the design 00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:31.880 of water relocation improvements associated with the 00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:32.480 project. 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:34.920 So this is a map of the project. 00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:38.680 We're widening Morse between Loop 288 on the West End 00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:40.960 and Mayhill Road on the East End. 00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:43.720 Right now, Morse Street is four lane divided roadway 00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:46.579 between Loop 288 and Kimberly Drive. 00:28:46.579 --> 00:28:48.319 And then between Kimberly and Mayhill, 00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:49.519 it's only a two lane road. 00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:52.039 So we're gonna widen it to a four lane divided road 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:54.279 between Kimberly and Mayhill. 00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:57.039 And then we're also going to do a mill and overlay 00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:00.880 maintenance operation on the north side of Morse Street 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:02.319 between the Loop and Mayhill. 00:29:04.859 --> 00:29:07.039 So a little information about the background of the project 00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:09.920 and the RFQ, the Morse Street expansion project 00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:13.519 was authorized as part of the 2014 bond program. 00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:15.759 Again, we're gonna widen it between Kimberly and Mayhill 00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:17.839 to four lanes with a median. 00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:19.480 We're selecting our engineering consultant 00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:22.440 based on an RF request for qualifications 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:24.400 for professional engineering services 00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:27.200 that was solicited using the city's formal solicitation 00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:28.359 process. 00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:31.119 In March of this year, the city council approved 00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:33.519 a pre-qualified list of engineering firms 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:35.339 to do this type of design. 00:29:35.339 --> 00:29:38.279 So Burgess and Nopple Inc. is one of the qualified firms 00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:40.319 that submitted for the design of roadways, 00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.640 intersections and bridges, and we're selecting them 00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:44.440 to do the Morse Street project. 00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:47.319 The engineering scope of services 00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:49.119 includes street widening improvements, 00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:51.079 storm drain improvements, and then design 00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:52.940 of the water line relocation. 00:29:52.940 --> 00:29:55.220 That uses utility funds and that's why we're talking 00:29:55.220 --> 00:30:00.220 to PUB today, $24,350 is used from utility funds 00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:02.759 to design the water line relocation improvements. 00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:05.059 The scope also includes roadway lighting, 00:30:05.059 --> 00:30:07.000 bid and construction phase support, 00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:09.480 preparation of right of way acquisition documents, 00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:11.619 SUE and geotechnical engineering, 00:30:11.619 --> 00:30:13.319 and public involvement support. 00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:17.160 Here's a map that shows the water line relocation. 00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:20.619 This is Morse Street between Kimberly and the Loop, 00:30:20.619 --> 00:30:22.759 it's four lanes divided, and then in this section 00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:25.519 we're gonna widen it between Kimberly and Mayhill. 00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:28.400 This is the water line that we may have to relocate 00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:30.980 and move depending on whether it conflicts 00:30:30.980 --> 00:30:34.279 with the roadway improvements or if it is in bad condition. 00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:40.440 So our recommendation is that you recommend approval 00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:42.099 of the professional services agreement 00:30:42.099 --> 00:30:44.460 between the city of Denton and Burgess and Nopple Inc. 00:30:44.460 --> 00:30:49.460 for $255,000 which includes the $24,350 in utility funding. 00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:55.720 I'll try to answer any questions if you have them. 00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:58.660 - Any questions on this? 00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:06.200 Just, I was, general comment on the entire project 00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:10.779 that makes perfect sense to extend that little piece 00:31:10.779 --> 00:31:14.519 of Morse Street, especially as Mayhill gets expanded, 00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:19.519 provides a good east to west access to Mayhill 00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:21.059 from the Loop and vice versa. 00:31:21.059 --> 00:31:26.059 So it's not very many linear feet, 00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:29.990 but it'll be a good improvement for us for east to west 00:31:29.990 --> 00:31:30.720 access. 00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:34.880 - And I think, I mean the part that pertaining most to PUB, 00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:38.180 the water lines is just so necessary. 00:31:38.180 --> 00:31:39.019 - Yep. 00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:41.599 - Yep. - Absolutely. 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:42.440 - Okay. 00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:46.960 Other comments or do we have a motion on item C? 00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:50.279 - Move for approval. 00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:53.119 - Motion to approve, is there a second? 00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:55.519 Second? 00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:57.279 Discussion? 00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:00.000 All in favor say aye. 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:01.960 - Aye. - Any opposed? 00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:02.799 Same sign? 00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:07.519 Item D is ACM update, thank you. 00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:10.519 - Mr. Chairman, members of the board, I'll be brief. 00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:13.480 In your packet, you'll have your feature agenda item list 00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:16.079 along with the new business matrix. 00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:17.279 I believe a majority of the items 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:20.680 of the new business matrix have been responded to back, 00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:23.880 to the PUB and believe we'd still have one outstanding item 00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:25.480 regarding solid waste that will be covered 00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:28.200 in the budget process and budget conversations. 00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.839 Also in your packet is a white paper 00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:33.839 that was co-presented by PS Aurora 00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:36.079 and a consultant with Black and Veatch 00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:39.440 at the 2018 conference of the Water Environment Association 00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:41.359 of Texas and it was regarding 00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:43.880 our wastewater asset management plan. 00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:46.119 So if you have any questions regarding that, 00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:48.380 Mr. Aurora is here to answer any specifics to that, 00:32:48.380 --> 00:32:51.319 but is included in your packet for your review. 00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:52.160 Nothing further. 00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:58.759 - Okay, any questions? 00:33:01.460 --> 00:33:05.680 Just as a comment, command PS. 00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:06.519 - As always. 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:10.519 - On your presentation, it's good to see 00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:14.640 the city of Denton wastewater program is being used 00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:18.779 as a good example of how to do things right. 00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:22.039 It's always encouraged me, so thank you. 00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:25.759 Okay. 00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:32.440 Concluding items, under section 551.042, 00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:36.160 the Texas Open Meetings Act, responding inquiries 00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:38.480 from the Public Utilities Board or the public 00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:42.039 with specific factual information or recitation of policy 00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:44.839 or accept a proposal to place a matter on the agenda 00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:46.039 for an upcoming meeting. 00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:48.920 Yes. 00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:49.759 (laughing) 00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.319 Two, we got both sides of the room here. 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:56.359 - I was reading recently about the markets 00:33:56.359 --> 00:33:59.200 for recycling materials and that a lot of cities 00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:03.319 are looking at not selling them because it's not 00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:07.160 advantageous and I'd like an update on that for us. 00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:11.000 And then also on commercial, I know that we don't do 00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:14.039 a lot of commercial recycling and do we have any plans 00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.599 to kind of increase that? 00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:20.440 I hate to see plastic and glass going into a landfill. 00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:21.280 - Yeah, I agree. 00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:22.119 - And aluminum, so. 00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:23.679 - And costing us more money than we would have. 00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:25.800 - Yes, yes, so. 00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:28.679 And I think that's where the bulk of those materials 00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.440 would be coming from is commercial businesses. 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:36.639 - And we might include in that also, you know, 00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:40.199 there's some private recycling firms that contract 00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:43.079 with some of the larger users like, 00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:45.800 I don't want to give anybody as an example, 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:46.780 but some of the big, 00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:51.679 larger retail people. - At the end of the Walmart, 00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:52.760 they do their own. 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:56.639 - Yeah, yeah, they bail it and then it's a third party 00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:57.480 that collects it. 00:34:57.480 --> 00:34:58.400 - Right. 00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:02.119 - So that, put that in the mix, I guess. 00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:04.039 - And then Deb had. 00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:06.000 - Yes, you had one, Deb? 00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:08.800 - Yeah, so a future agenda item. 00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:10.400 And this is about the, 00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:16.199 I'd like to see a staff presentation 00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:20.000 at some point, you know, relatively soon 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:24.920 about the different kinds of air testing 00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:28.199 that have been done, you know, the one kind that was done 00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:31.400 and then the one that's going to be done on the deck 00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:33.960 because there is confusion, 00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:40.440 including in myself as to what kind of testing 00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:42.519 had been done and what kind will be done. 00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:46.519 So I did some, you know, self-educating 00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:49.760 and it seems to me that, 00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:52.559 or from what I learned, there are these two kinds 00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:56.559 of testing that we have done and are doing. 00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:58.480 There's the, and I wrote down the acronyms here, 00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:02.400 the new source performance standard, NSPS, 00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:04.760 and then the national ambient air quality standards, 00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.920 NAQS, and as soon as I read about that, 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:11.400 everything that had been confusing to me before made sense. 00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:16.400 So I would, I wonder if that would help the public 00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:20.840 and us and even council to better understand 00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:22.280 what's the difference between this. 00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:23.719 I still have to look back to what I wrote, 00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:26.800 the NSPS and the NAQS. 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.920 I think that that would help to clear up a lot of confusion 00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:34.320 and would be really helpful. 00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:37.079 - We are planning on a presentation 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.519 in the next two or three meetings 00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:42.280 and trying to arrange to have our black and beach team back 00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:42.519 . 00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:47.280 So with their experts in order to explain the results, 00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:50.280 they were our representative to ensure 00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.079 that all the air quality monitoring was done appropriately 00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:55.880 and within the contract parameter limits. 00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:58.460 So we'll get them back here and answer all of your 00:36:58.460 --> 00:36:59.320 questions. 00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:01.480 - Yep. - Good, very good. 00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:05.960 Anything else, anybody, any member would like to see 00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:07.159 on future agendas? 00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:11.880 If not, is there a motion to adjourn then? 00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:16.519 - So moved. - Motion and a second? 00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:18.360 - We didn't know what to do, Brendan wasn't here. 00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:19.760 - All in favor say aye, yeah. 00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:21.119 That's usually Brendan's job. 00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:22.119 (laughing) 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:23.519 We are adjourned, thank you.