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May the 7th 2018 we'll call the May 7 2018 public utility

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board meeting to

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order and right away we have a work session so we have a

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few items to go

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over we'll start with item A which is to receive a report

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from staff regarding

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the 2017 reliability indices for the electric distribution

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system and DME's

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actions taken to improve reliability.

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George Morrow DME general manager it's my honor to come

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before you this morning

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to introduce this reliability information about the

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electric system

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and also introduce Jerry Fielder who's our distribution

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system manager who has

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sliced and diced and parsed all this reliability

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information to kind of give

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you and us an idea of how reliable are we reliability being

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extremely important

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these days we're all used to having electricity and when it

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's out you know

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how critical that is and I think we what I've seen my time

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in Denton that we have

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an outstanding reliability here in the city we have very

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few outages and though

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when we do have outages we respond extremely quickly it's

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to me it's been

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amazing our reliability here is 99.99% so so with that I'll

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introduce Jerry and

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let him take it away.

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A little shorter good morning. I appreciate the time this

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morning to kind of visit

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with you guys about the reliability of the distribution

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system before I get

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into it I want to introduce a couple of other members of

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the reliability team

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and that's Brad Watts who is the superintendent of

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operation and

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maintenance and Rowdy Patterson who is the superintendent

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of construction and

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missing today is Sam Bridges who is the superintendent's of

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the substation group.

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All right we're gonna start off with the test questions

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begin with just kind of

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let you know what we look at these are indices that are

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established by IEEE 1366

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which is a standard for electric reliability this was

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established by the

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Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers there are

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several different

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factors that we look at these are the common ones we look

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at SATI. SATI is the

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system average interruption duration and that's the total

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duration of an

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interruption for the average customer during a given time

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period and it's

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measured in minutes. KD is the customer average inter

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ruption duration index and

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that's the average amount of time taken to restore service

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and again that is in

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minutes. SAFE is the system average interruption

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frequency index and that's the average number of times that

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a system customer

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experiences an outage during a time period being studied

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and that's just a

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number. A SAY which is the average system availability

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index that's the total

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necessary number of customer hours that service was

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available during the time

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period being studied to the total customer hours demanded

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and is

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calculated using the formula that they've got right there

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this one is

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actually given to us in hours. TMED is a method that if you

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are in area that has

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large and extended interruptions TMED lets you figure out

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what that number is

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and those you can actually take out of your calculations DM

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E has no TMED

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we don't take any of them out and then performance this is

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not IEEE 1366

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this is Jerry Fielder basically what I do is take the SATE

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times the SAFE so I

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take the duration times the frequency multiply them

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together the higher the

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number the worst performer that asset is. Okay to go over

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the baseline for 2017

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the time period that was studied was January 1st 2017 to

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December 31st 2017

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during that time frame we had 950 events the indices were

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calculated on IEEE 1366

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standards for reliability industries and classified based

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on IEEE 1782

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which is another specification that lets us know how the I

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EEE wants these

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things to kind of be classified we go above and beyond on

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classification you

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guys should have a cheat sheet in front of you of all the

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classifications that

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we actually use reliability indices we calculate on the

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system level the

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substation level and on the feeder service levels and

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during that time

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frame we've identified the top five cause and equipment

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codes that were on

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these three different service levels. So for us last year

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as it was in 2016

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squirrels were our nemesis of the 213 animal small animal

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reported incidences

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199 were contributed to squirrels. So just kind of give you

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an idea we're not

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unusual with this thing the APPA had an article squirrels

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other wildlife are the

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most common cause of allergies the survey finds and just

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the quote from this

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thing is saying wildlife near power equipment is the most

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common cause of

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allergies at public power utilities and the failure of

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overhead equipment is the

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second most common cause according to the APPA's latest

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survey you know

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basically what they're saying is since a utility pole is

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similar to a tree

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squirrels frequently climb the poles the heat emitted by

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electric lines can

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attract the squirrel because they like to get that warmth

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from the electric

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line so that's why squirrels love us so much. Now once we

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did the study we

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identify the top five cause codes we identify the top five

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equipment codes

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for 2017 the top five cause codes or number one was animals

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the small animals

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and birds this is your squirrels planned outages

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maintenance and we'll talk a

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little bit more about this why that's so high this time

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maintenance or decay age

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of material that's basically materials just aging out there

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weather associated

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with lightning lightning associated with weather and

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equipment or design

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installation it's a material or equipment failure the

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equipment that we

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identified was no damaged equipment and that kind of goes

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in with the maintenance

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part of it overhead line conductor and devices the line

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transformers the fuses

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associated with the line transformers secondary and

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services and line

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transformers becoming bad we're going to focus mainly on

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the equipment I mean the

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cause codes during this thing because that's what

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everything is really kind of

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tuned to it is eliminating the causes but the equipment

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codes help us

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understand if there's a pattern going on out there that we

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have equipment that's

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failing and it's in the same area or it's the same

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manufacturer helps us

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understand what that's going on right there so what this

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next graph is showing

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you is on the top of it is the combination of all the

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events the

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combination of all the outage time for those 950 events and

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the number of

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customers affected as you can see right there there's when

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you take the top five

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out on the top part of it which for the number of events 65

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4 of the 950 events

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were top five events those are separated out into the

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maintenance material

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equipment failure decay age of equipment lighting and small

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animal or bird the

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same thing can be seen at the amount of cottage time that's

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contributed

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contributed to the top five as well as the customers

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affected that's attributed

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to the top five this is just another way of looking at it

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you can see on a

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monthly basis what the top five spread was based upon how

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much of a

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contributor they were now what I want to point out here in

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October November in

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December you're going to see the maintenance part of it go

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up this is

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when we did a lot of feeder sweeps in a in an area that we

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're going to talk

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about these feeder sweeps were pretty intense they went out

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there and took a

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lot of custody and to do this they had to take the

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customers out of power for a

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short time so that's why when you look at the amount of

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time for maintenance

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that's why it's gone up is because they have to do that

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this is not something

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that we really believe is going to be a continual issue for

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us we just wanted to

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get a lot of things done within that first three months to

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try to eliminate

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as many as possible of the issues or errors that we have in

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a specific area

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I've got on the side over here a lot of the items that were

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put on during the

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sweep if you guys are interested in looking at those or

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asking more about

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those thank you very much we can certainly go about them

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and talk to you

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a little bit more about what each of these items are and

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what their

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contribution is to helping us get more reliable power okay

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so comparison start

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now system growth from the distribution standpoint we only

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grew about 1.25

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percent during the 16 17 time frame again our underground

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miles grew which

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led us to be over 57.91 percent of an underground

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distribution system the

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reliability indices as you can see our safety or frequency

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went down however

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you look at Sadie the durations and Katie customer dur

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ations they went up

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there's a reason for this and the reason is this is the

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first year that we've had

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full implementation of the AMI system into the OMS outage

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management system so

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what that means is in the past the time starts on an outage

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whenever you first

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know about it so if people are at home and they don't know

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that their power is

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out and they get home and they call us then that's when the

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clock starts for

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the amount of time that we're attributing this thing with

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the AMI

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system we know within seconds that a person's out and so

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the AMI system

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reports it in and so that's when our clock starts so that

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means your

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durations are going to be just a little bit longer because

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of that so in other

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words we basically established a new baseline for this year

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so we did a heat

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map analysis of the system using the top five cause codes

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and as you can see the

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north east area is the area that has the most has the it

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seems like it has the

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highest number of cause codes it has the highest number of

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heat equipment codes

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events happening this area we know is an area this is area

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that we concentrated a

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lot of our maintenance activities on this is where those

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proactive going out

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there change putting in the animal protection putting in

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the automatic

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fuses etc etc occurred on that thing to reduce them down we

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haven't had a full

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year of data yet for that but we pretty much believe that

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this has been a very

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positive because the number of phone calls coming in from

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that area has

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reduced drastically so we think we've done some good things

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out there this

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will be one of the things that we look at at the end of the

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year once I have a

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full year of data to say did we actually affect that as

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with most utilities we

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like to compare ourselves to everybody so we won't go over

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every one of these

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unless you want me to but just didn't municipal electric

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from a public power

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power standpoint in national and state of Texas level we

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are better there are

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some utilities out there that have got some numbers that

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are better than ours

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there's some that have got some numbers that are worse than

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ours our sister TNPA

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cities Garland Bryan and Greenville they don't they don't

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claim to go to I triple

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e 1366 glass so I can't tell you that they're being lower

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than us by so much

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is an actual apples to apples type comparison because they

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don't go by I

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triple e 1366 okay so we look as I said we do a performance

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calculation we look

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at the substations Denton North last year was the worst

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performing substation

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its availability was 99.95 percent with the highest rank of

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performance last

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year it was seven Kings Road which last year was our worst

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performing substation

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did get some improvement it's now the 15th and we take

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these are all the

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substations that's on our system so we know from the worst

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performing substation

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down to the least worst performing substation and we focus

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a lot of

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attention on what the worst performers are to see if there

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's any thing common

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in that area that we need to attack or pursue same thing

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happens with feeders

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so Denton North 212 is our worst performing feeder for 2017

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followed by

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McKinney 221 Kings Road 222 Locust 221 and Cooper Creek 222

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kind of goes down

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the top five or ten worst performing feeders is a standard

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that the Public

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Utility Commission of Texas asks people to look at of

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course we're not come

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we're not dependent on the PUC of Texas to tell us what we

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need to do but we

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still make those comparisons for ourselves to see how we're

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doing and use

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their standards a feeder a feeder you have substation you

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have a system level

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which is everything that we have out there you have a subst

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ation which is the

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big assets that you see that are placed around the city

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that have the big

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transformers in them and everything else and those subst

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ations feed feeders

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feeders are they the assets that go out and serve the

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customer so they're the

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big wire the big underground wire that goes out and serves

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customers is what a

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feeder is so that's the end game for us is to look at that

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point and where is

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this feeder located is it up in that northwest

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several several of them are up there in that area is Denton

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North as well as

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Kings Row and if you look at that Kings Row has two feeders

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that are on the

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worst performer and Denton North has two feeders on the

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worst performing so yes

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those four feeders are up and usually serving that one area

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that you see as

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worst performing so we do some other looking at this thing

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another heat map

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that we prepare is using the ten on the ten worst

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performing feeders we we

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identify the cost codes the top five cost codes and we plot

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those out there

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on the system as you can see that same area that's

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northeast is still pretty

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much red but there are other areas within the city that

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there is some you

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know events that we need to look at and see what the cause

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is and then equipment

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codes as I said those are all focusing pretty much in the

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same area we don't

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pay a whole lot of attention for study parts of the

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equipment codes that's more

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or less for the engineer geek of us to try to figure out so

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you know is there

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equipment that is failing constantly and if it is is there

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a commonality with

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that equipment do we need to go replace it all etc etc okay

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so 2017 findings the

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top five cause and equipment codes were identified as

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factors in over 60% of all

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the recorded events at the every service level from the

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system the substation the

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feeder level North Lake substation is the worst performing

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substation and

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King Joe substation has moved from being the worst

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performance but it still has

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two of the worst performing feeders in it so what are we

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going to do about this

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what is DME going to do about this for animal protection

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there you're going to

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see on this slide these are the actions that were taken if

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they're standardized

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it means they're now in our construction standards or

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design standards if it's

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says continuous that means that we do this normally anyway

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and then in progress

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is something other that is kind of a study thing for us so

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for animal

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protection we are using rely guard products that's a lot

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what you see out

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here these are the new products that we're using and Brad

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will be able to talk a little bit more about the

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advantages of the rely guard products and then later on in

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the presentation we

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now install animal protection on all of our designs

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everything goes out whenever

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an engineer or technician does a design he puts animal

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protection into the

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estimate on that part of it we have used duct plugs instead

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of air seal on

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polarizers that plugs which are these items air seal is

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basically foam that

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they would put down on the top of the polarizer and

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squirrels didn't have any

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issue with chewing down in the bottom of it and then

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chewing on the cable and

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causing outages they can't chew through metal so we are now

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using these in our polarizers

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our tree trimming program has been very successful we

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continued the tree trimming

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program and if we find areas where hot spots are we go

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ahead and trim that out

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if areas have and we need taller pose we'll certainly put

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in taller pose in

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those areas and we've even tried different things such as

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Fox urine to

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try to eliminate squirrels I wasn't very popular with Brad

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's crews at the time

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when they had to go put it out there it really wasn't that

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effective but we tried

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it from a maintenance standpoint we've replaced damaged and

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missing lightning

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arrestors as well as the missing grounds and down guys this

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was done pretty

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heavily during the feeder sweeps that were performed we are

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going to prepare

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an RFP for infrared testing and strategic placement of

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fault indicators

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this is something other for both operations as well as

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engineering to

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kind of help focus in and narrow in on what causes and what

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the area of what

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the area that the fault has occurred is where that area is

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so it fault current

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indicator basically has a light or some sort of signal that

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lets the crews know

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that down from it it saw the fault and so they know okay

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from this point down

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we got a look okay decay age of material we are doing

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another RFP for a system

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wide pole inspection and inventory from the engineering

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standpoint we're mostly

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wanting to do the pole inspection the pole inspection is

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they hammer the pole

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the test the pole for rot and make sure that the pole is

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good if the pole is not

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good they send it back to us and we replace the pole the

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sweeps are to

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replace if they see any deteriorated insulators or other

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equipment that

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replace those and we are also going to do an RFP for

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infrared testing to

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identify hot connections on the distribution system

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lightning you know

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the sweeps are looking into that replacing damage or

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missing lightning

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arresters and replace damage or missing ground rods and

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guys that's the best

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thing we can do against lightning and material and

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equipment failures we use

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contingency analysis to minimize the number of customers

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effective and now

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it's time what this means is we have several ways that we

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we try to design it

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into the system several ways to serve different areas of

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the city so that if

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we have a failure of a substation or not something subst

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ation or feeder or

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substation bank we have other ways to get that power back

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up fairly quickly so

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that we can then spend the time restoring the power and

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still have

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customers up and when we're working in areas that have

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dated facilities that we

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go ahead and try to be proactive and replace those

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facilities when we can okay

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I've got a quick video here that's going to kind of talk a

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little bit about the

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advantages of the new rely guard products that we got and

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Brad is going to

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kind of talk to you a little bit about that

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when we started looking at this I've been here for 27 years

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to try and figure

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out you know what why the squirrels are getting in there

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what they're doing and

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the main thing that a squirrel does that gives us the

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problem besides you know on

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the transformer for warmth they will they will climb up and

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they will they

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collect all kinds of nuts berries food and they store it

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and so what they do is

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they climb up on the transformer and they try and stuff

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these berries and

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nuts and stuff up inside these squirrel protection and then

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once they get full

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they start tracking over and then that's when you're going

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to have the outage or

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they're going to get their hands in there and they're going

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to make contact

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well they're standing on a transformer and the transformers

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grounded and so

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they're going to make contact with the wire and then that's

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when you know the

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explosion that you hear the fuses blow and that's what's

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causing it and I've

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got one one example I want to show you this is another one

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I can help you pass around if you want to

00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:20.319
but that's one of the old squirrel protection and after a

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while we found out that they start tracking over and they

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start burning a path and once they start tracking then the

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squirrel protection itself kind of becomes a conductor and

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then when the squirrel just

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touches it that's when we have a fault and I learned of a

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new product and it was

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actually designed by a lineman so he had the experience as

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far as you know knowing what the squirrels are doing

00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:48.240
knowing how they're doing it and so he got with another

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company and they designed squirrel protection called Reli-G

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uard and they also impregnate these with a product called

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Reli-Tanium and it's non-flammable.

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It has a flammability rating of VO and I'm sorry and they

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it's a new product it's supposed to be a 15 year product

00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:14.200
and so far we've had really good good luck with them and

00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:16.200
one thing that the squirrels can't do is they can't get

00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:19.720
them off once you lock them on it has a keeper key on it

00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:22.400
and once we set it I mean it's on there the squirrel can't

00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:26.619
raise it up and also the inside of it has a fitting where

00:22:26.619 --> 00:22:28.990
it will grab the skirt of the transformer they cannot pick

00:22:28.990 --> 00:22:29.200
it up and they can't get it off.

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They cannot pick it up and they can't move it they can't

00:22:31.660 --> 00:22:34.910
twist it it's pretty tough to put on but once it's on it's

00:22:34.910 --> 00:22:43.200
on and we're having really good luck with it.

00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:46.569
So the video is playing now and Brad will kind of talk

00:22:46.569 --> 00:22:49.380
about what what they're doing now is they're just going to

00:22:49.380 --> 00:22:52.200
test the circuit this is a controlled circuit that we built

00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:56.269
and we can do arching demos we do it a lot for schools and

00:22:56.269 --> 00:22:57.200
you know different events.

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And now we've installed the old squirrel guard which also

00:23:11.230 --> 00:23:15.230
is passing around and we're using a sausage to simulate you

00:23:15.230 --> 00:23:19.809
know something getting up there touching it and you'll see

00:23:19.809 --> 00:23:23.349
how it will arc up and this is supposed to be our

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protection this was the old style protection.

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But over a period of time it's not protecting anything.

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But the hot dog is cooked.

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Now we're going to install this.

00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:17.500
And now the guys are going to go ahead and you'll see them

00:24:17.500 --> 00:24:20.200
they'll install that new rely guard product on the jumper.

00:24:45.200 --> 00:25:12.099
And now they're going to simulate the same thing again a

00:25:12.099 --> 00:25:14.200
squirrel climbing up there and touching the.

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Touching the cover up.

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And actually rub it all up and down the wire and everything

00:25:35.289 --> 00:25:38.259
and it's it's really a good cover up and only till he gets

00:25:38.259 --> 00:25:41.220
up to the bear conductor does it draw an arc but we're not

00:25:41.220 --> 00:25:44.250
going to get a squirrel up there because if they do happen

00:25:44.250 --> 00:25:47.200
to get up there and they will climb up and get on the line.

00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:50.160
It's kind of like a bird on the wire. I mean they're the

00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:52.200
same potential as the wire itself.

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But this seems I mean this is really creating a good you

00:25:58.250 --> 00:26:02.200
know protection for our system.

00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:04.250
And then here Michael's going to go ahead and just show you

00:26:04.250 --> 00:26:08.380
what a tree limb does. Once it's been on the line you'll

00:26:08.380 --> 00:26:14.059
see it I mean they'll smoke but eventually they're going to

00:26:14.059 --> 00:26:17.200
burn a path.

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That's about the questions about the product.

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When did we start using this product.

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We actually started about almost a year ago. We were just

00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:48.410
but we didn't just jump right into it because we wanted to

00:26:48.410 --> 00:26:49.200
make sure it was going to work for us.

00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:51.970
So we were trying it on different things and we had one of

00:26:51.970 --> 00:26:54.869
their engineers come visit with us and they actually went

00:26:54.869 --> 00:26:57.519
out and we showed them some air switches we're having

00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:00.309
trouble and actually designed a guard to go over the air

00:27:00.309 --> 00:27:02.200
switch steel bracket.

00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:05.319
And we did we did some tests and stuff we've done we've

00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:08.750
done things like this. Now we're using it full force and

00:27:08.750 --> 00:27:11.200
the feeder sweeps. That's what these are doing.

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We actually have to go into the backyards and or on the

00:27:14.130 --> 00:27:17.380
streets wherever the transformers located at rest or the

00:27:17.380 --> 00:27:20.200
underground termination points on the poles.

00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:23.140
And we have to kill it out and then we install this we

00:27:23.140 --> 00:27:26.779
install the ill guard over the wire takes about about 15 to

00:27:26.779 --> 00:27:30.200
20 minutes sometimes a little sooner than that.

00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:34.200
But we're going to get the benefit from it.

00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:37.380
So we'll be able to monitor this in the next few years. Yes

00:27:37.380 --> 00:27:39.200
. See how many we should get good data.

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Didn't try.

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It's used all over our entire system.

00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:54.490
So I mean anytime we come on line they was something it has

00:27:54.490 --> 00:27:57.630
a live guard cover up the old guard and we're we have you

00:27:57.630 --> 00:28:01.009
know so many features in the town that we're just trying to

00:28:01.009 --> 00:28:04.119
start with the ones that are impacted the most and then we

00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:06.200
're just branching out in the service trucks.

00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:08.490
They're doing that constantly when they get on calls when

00:28:08.490 --> 00:28:11.599
they see one. I mean they're they're trying to install

00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:14.200
these as fast as they can as many as they can.

00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:21.200
The North has been yes ma'am.

00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:25.470
And we were at a there's three fingers in the north where

00:28:25.470 --> 00:28:26.200
100% on that.

00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:31.200
And it's the guys worked really hard.

00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:35.759
Is the safety device that we cook the hot dog with is that

00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:36.200
still available.

00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:39.200
Do people still buy and use those.

00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:40.200
These right here.

00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:44.200
They're still available. We don't use them.

00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:49.400
So in that situation that we just saw that products

00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:52.200
installed correctly but not working.

00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:55.160
It's installed correctly but over a period of time that it

00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:58.150
's not dielectrically sound for it and then the ozone I mean

00:28:58.150 --> 00:29:01.019
the sunlight just eats it up and it starts tracking and it

00:29:01.019 --> 00:29:04.200
'll start creating little little lines of track lines.

00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.170
And then once it gets to a certain point then it'll

00:29:07.170 --> 00:29:10.609
actually can mail and just cover the bushing. We found them

00:29:10.609 --> 00:29:12.200
where they just melt and go down on the bushing.

00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:15.250
I mean it's just not a good product. They thought it was

00:29:15.250 --> 00:29:16.200
but it wasn't.

00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:18.200
But it's still available on the market.

00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:19.200
Yes sir.

00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:22.200
What's the price point between the two.

00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:27.200
That I don't have the light guard is very expensive.

00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:40.200
I can get that.

00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:43.200
Okay for the light guard products.

00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:49.250
They go anywhere from two hundred and forty seven dollars

00:29:49.250 --> 00:29:55.200
to it looks like three hundred and six dollars each.

00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:58.220
The pole wrap which we've got one over here you haven't

00:29:58.220 --> 00:30:01.200
seen it is is about eight dollars and sixty cents.

00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:04.700
I mean is one hundred and sixty seven dollars and fifty

00:30:04.700 --> 00:30:05.200
cents.

00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:08.200
And that price is for a box of them. It's not individual.

00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:11.200
I think there's twenty five in a box.

00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:13.230
And I would say these other ones are probably going to be

00:30:13.230 --> 00:30:14.200
comparable in price.

00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:17.029
The one the old ones because they all kind of come in the

00:30:17.029 --> 00:30:18.200
same price point.

00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.700
So that's about what you're looking at from a price

00:30:22.700 --> 00:30:24.200
standpoint.

00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:26.200
So the cost.

00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.200
So the cost is roughly comparable.

00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:34.920
But and and it would end it saves us cost in the time and

00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:37.200
spend in repairs.

00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:38.200
Yes ma'am.

00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:39.200
Yeah.

00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:40.200
Thank you.

00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:41.200
OK.

00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:42.200
Very good.

00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:44.200
Any other questions.

00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:49.200
Somebody want to see the video again.

00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:50.200
Thank you guys.

00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:51.200
Thank you.

00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:54.200
And Brad showed you one of the products.

00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:56.009
Again if you want to see him I can actually leave this if

00:30:56.009 --> 00:30:57.200
you want to see it afterwards.

00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.750
But there are different types of products for different

00:30:59.750 --> 00:31:00.200
uses.

00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:03.200
The one he showed you was for transformer bushing.

00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:06.700
They have them for an insulator cover as well as other type

00:31:06.700 --> 00:31:10.200
of things that we use them all that we have out there.

00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:11.200
OK.

00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:14.349
So in closing this I want to kind of tell you a little bit

00:31:14.349 --> 00:31:16.200
about some good news for us.

00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:20.609
APP R P 3 is a destination that that signifies leadership

00:31:20.609 --> 00:31:24.450
in reliability safety workforce development system

00:31:24.450 --> 00:31:25.200
improvement.

00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:28.990
For the past few years we have been at the gold level but I

00:31:28.990 --> 00:31:32.269
'm very happy to tell you that this year at the APP

00:31:32.269 --> 00:31:37.200
conference DME has been moved up to the platinum level for

00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:38.200
reliability.

00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:39.200
Congratulations.

00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:44.200
Very happy with this.

00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:46.200
So that's the end of the formal presentation.

00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:50.200
Any questions.

00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:52.200
Yes sir.

00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:57.200
You mentioned that we were at four nines of uptime right.

00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:01.039
If all you were doing were scheduled maintenance let's just

00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:04.549
say we live in a world where we don't have unexpected out

00:32:04.549 --> 00:32:05.200
ages.

00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:12.200
What would you say your uptime would be percentage wise.

00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:16.460
What we're at four times if we spent all the time on it it

00:32:16.460 --> 00:32:18.200
may go to five nines.

00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:21.200
We're actually at point nine nine eight.

00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:24.200
So we're pretty darn close on the fifth digit.

00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:28.470
But you know it's kind of a typical thing to go to four

00:32:28.470 --> 00:32:29.200
digits.

00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:31.700
So that's why we stop at four digits and the bulk of the

00:32:31.700 --> 00:32:34.000
changes that you're going to make are really the

00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:36.200
installation of this new equipment.

00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:38.750
But basically we're still just going to approach it the way

00:32:38.750 --> 00:32:40.200
been approaching it before.

00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:42.730
Yes sir unless we can think of anything different in the

00:32:42.730 --> 00:32:43.200
area.

00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:46.660
I mean again the feeder sweeps have done a really good job

00:32:46.660 --> 00:32:50.000
of eliminating a lot of the issues that we've had in the

00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:54.200
northeastern quadrant and we're watching that.

00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:57.130
This is a standard installation product that we put

00:32:57.130 --> 00:32:59.200
everywhere now within the city.

00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:02.089
So you know we should be able to see some improvement from

00:33:02.089 --> 00:33:03.200
that standpoint.

00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:05.460
Again some of the duration the reason why the duration went

00:33:05.460 --> 00:33:07.630
up because we now have the meters telling us when they're

00:33:07.630 --> 00:33:09.200
out which is a very positive thing.

00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:12.299
I mean that's something that from an engineering standpoint

00:33:12.299 --> 00:33:15.029
we've always known is that once you get a my hooked into

00:33:15.029 --> 00:33:17.829
your own system your numbers are going to get worse for a

00:33:17.829 --> 00:33:21.200
bit because it's now reporting immediately versus waiting

00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:23.200
maybe eight hours for a person to come home.

00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:25.200
Yeah I don't know anymore.

00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:26.200
I know you know.

00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:28.200
So we did.

00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:30.490
I thought that was an insightful question because a lot of

00:33:30.490 --> 00:33:32.829
the utilities I'm familiar with they actually don't count

00:33:32.829 --> 00:33:35.069
the schedule maintenance as an outage when they do their

00:33:35.069 --> 00:33:37.200
out of these calculations that Jerry does.

00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.200
And here I think we go strictly by the book.

00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:42.200
We're not trying to shade anything any different direction.

00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:43.200
So we give it all to you.

00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:46.200
But a lot of places will ignore that in their calculations.

00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:49.200
So I just know for nine is pretty solid.

00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:50.200
Pretty good.

00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:53.630
That fifth nine is you know that's very difficult to you

00:33:53.630 --> 00:33:56.200
know to make that kind of transition.

00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:58.200
So you guys are doing a great job.

00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:00.200
Thank you.

00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:01.200
Thanks everyone.

00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:02.200
Thank you.

00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:09.199
Okay.

00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:14.130
The next next time we have in work session is to receive a

00:34:14.130 --> 00:34:15.199
report.

00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:18.699
Holder discussion and give staff direction regarding the

00:34:18.699 --> 00:34:23.199
customer service fiscal year 2018 19 operating budget.

00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:24.199
Mr. Chairman.

00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:25.199
P.B. members.

00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:27.199
My name is Tony point them the director of finance.

00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:29.199
So I went to very quickly just introduce this item.

00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:31.199
Tiffany Thompson will come up here.

00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:33.699
She's our customer service manager and I've asked her to go

00:34:33.699 --> 00:34:36.130
ahead and walk you through this budget presentation for

00:34:36.130 --> 00:34:37.199
customer service.

00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:39.199
So I have to cover a couple of things.

00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:41.860
The first one is that making this a separate fund does not

00:34:41.860 --> 00:34:43.199
make it a new operation.

00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:46.909
It's an existing operation that has been in the water fund

00:34:46.909 --> 00:34:48.199
for many years.

00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:52.199
We have other internal service funds in the city.

00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:54.730
Those that come to mind are technology services for our

00:34:54.730 --> 00:34:57.199
computers risk management our fleet operation.

00:34:57.199 --> 00:35:00.079
And so this isn't anything different than what we've done

00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.199
with other operations within the city.

00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:05.250
And then finally by separating the side of its own

00:35:05.250 --> 00:35:08.840
segregated fund it will still continue to come back to the

00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:12.739
P.B. on an annual basis for review and approval and to seek

00:35:12.739 --> 00:35:15.199
your recommendation back to the city council.

00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:19.059
And so none of those things will change by making this a

00:35:19.059 --> 00:35:20.199
separate fund.

00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.139
So I'll have Tiffany come up here walk you through the

00:35:23.139 --> 00:35:24.199
presentation.

00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:35.139
And if you have any questions we'll certainly be happy to

00:35:35.139 --> 00:35:39.199
answer those for you.

00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:41.199
Good morning everyone.

00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:44.199
I'm sorry that I don't have props like hot dogs and.

00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.199
So I really feel like I'm going to be disappointed.

00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:47.199
Thanks.

00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:48.199
Yeah.

00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:49.199
Give me that with that.

00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:51.199
So I'll bring s'mores next time we meet.

00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:54.139
I'm Tiffany Thompson customer service manager happy to be

00:35:54.139 --> 00:35:56.780
here this morning to go over our budget presentation

00:35:56.780 --> 00:35:59.199
customer service assist all five utilities.

00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:02.559
We operate the main switch calls coming into this city and

00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:06.079
we also take care of billing and customer service functions

00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.199
for 20 other departments.

00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:10.679
So last year we calculated and build over six hundred and

00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:12.199
twenty seven thousand bills.

00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.199
We accepted six hundred and sixteen thousand payments.

00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:17.699
We filled it over one hundred and eighty five thousand

00:36:17.699 --> 00:36:18.199
calls.

00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:21.210
We took care of over seventy two thousand customers in our

00:36:21.210 --> 00:36:24.250
lobby operation and we collected and reconciled over two

00:36:24.250 --> 00:36:27.530
hundred sixty eight million dollars worth of revenue in our

00:36:27.530 --> 00:36:28.199
department.

00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:31.599
And our mission and customer service is to help serve and

00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:35.199
educate both our internal and our external customers.

00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:38.659
So the objectives of this presentation is as Tony mentioned

00:36:38.659 --> 00:36:42.199
to discuss the internal creating the internal service fund

00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:46.199
review fund assumptions the financial forecast and review

00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:47.199
our revenues and expenditures and then go over the budget.

00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:51.199
And then go over some additional departmental information.

00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:53.690
So with the proposal for the internal service funds

00:36:53.690 --> 00:36:56.300
currently customer service is housed under the water

00:36:56.300 --> 00:36:57.199
utility fund.

00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:00.699
And it's been that way since 1999 and creating that

00:37:00.699 --> 00:37:04.139
internal service fund helps separate the accounting fund

00:37:04.139 --> 00:37:07.500
that's used to account for the services provided to those

00:37:07.500 --> 00:37:09.199
other services at cost.

00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:12.460
And so we do want to do this because we don't only service

00:37:12.460 --> 00:37:15.619
just water we do all five utilities and a general fund

00:37:15.619 --> 00:37:17.199
functions with that.

00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:20.650
And with this internal service fund creation it's going to

00:37:20.650 --> 00:37:24.119
reduce the required reserve level for the water fund and it

00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:27.199
will help reduce our overall budget expenses.

00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:29.889
So the fund assumptions include that we will not have any

00:37:29.889 --> 00:37:32.199
operating reserve required for this fund.

00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:36.409
Our revenues and expenditures will continue to be based off

00:37:36.409 --> 00:37:39.690
of our percentage of service utilized. So that means if the

00:37:39.690 --> 00:37:41.519
utility or the general fund is represented on a bill if we

00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:44.639
take a phone call for them or revenue that they'll get a

00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:47.199
certain allocation of that for service back to them.

00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:50.199
So nothing changes with how we do that now.

00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:53.690
So our financial forecast we do propose to have a 3 percent

00:37:53.690 --> 00:37:57.130
increase across the board for our personal services going

00:37:57.130 --> 00:38:00.199
forward and then a 2 percent everywhere else.

00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:04.190
The major budget changes that we are anticipating for 2020

00:38:04.190 --> 00:38:06.199
is the addition of 1.5 FTEs.

00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:09.199
That's a full time person and then a part time staff.

00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:12.909
And that's just to be able to continue to have capacity for

00:38:12.909 --> 00:38:16.469
us to handle our increased scope of services that we're

00:38:16.469 --> 00:38:20.130
offering and then also with the increase of our customer

00:38:20.130 --> 00:38:21.199
service base.

00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:26.070
Our highlights. This is how we allocate out our our total

00:38:26.070 --> 00:38:27.199
budget.

00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:30.869
Again that's based off of if the utility is represented on

00:38:30.869 --> 00:38:34.079
a bill if we take a phone call for them and accept the

00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:37.690
revenue is proportionate to what services we provide to

00:38:37.690 --> 00:38:38.199
them.

00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:41.300
And our budgeting highlights this year we do have a slight

00:38:41.300 --> 00:38:44.139
increase in our personal services for materials and

00:38:44.139 --> 00:38:47.440
supplies that's directly related to our bill production and

00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:48.199
postage.

00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:51.199
We have a decrease in that line item budget this year.

00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:52.789
I'm going to talk a little bit more about that in just a

00:38:52.789 --> 00:38:53.199
moment.

00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:56.699
We did have a large increase in our electronic billing

00:38:56.699 --> 00:39:00.440
adoption which is giving us a decrease in this need for for

00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:04.199
funds in this line item and then for our operations.

00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:07.170
This is where we increase the twenty five thousand dollars

00:39:07.170 --> 00:39:08.199
for the plus one.

00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:11.179
But we also have some additional savings in other area and

00:39:11.179 --> 00:39:14.199
overall we have an overall decrease in that line item.

00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:17.929
And so we're maintaining about a five point four million

00:39:17.929 --> 00:39:20.199
dollar budget again this year.

00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:22.860
So our position summary we have fifty one souls and

00:39:22.860 --> 00:39:26.199
customer service which makes up forty two point five FTEs.

00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:29.179
We have a cross section of full time employees part time

00:39:29.179 --> 00:39:32.380
permanent employees and then seasonal staff that we bring

00:39:32.380 --> 00:39:35.199
into assistance with our heavier volume times.

00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:38.840
Thirty of those souls help us with our frontline operations

00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:41.199
to be there for our citizens needs.

00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:44.469
So our accomplishments for 17 18 we did launch a new

00:39:44.469 --> 00:39:47.679
payment portal in August called payment is since that time

00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:49.199
over twenty one thousand of our customers have been paid.

00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:51.909
So we have a total of twenty five thousand of our customers

00:39:51.909 --> 00:39:54.889
have registered through that payment portal that represents

00:39:54.889 --> 00:39:57.199
about 35 percent of our customer base.

00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:00.280
We have an increased electronic billing adoption which went

00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:03.099
up fifty five percent since last year and that's a direct

00:40:03.099 --> 00:40:06.199
reflection on how easy it is to sign up for e-billing now.

00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:08.610
And because of that we were able to have that budget

00:40:08.610 --> 00:40:10.199
reduction in that line item.

00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:13.550
We've also deployed an after call customer satisfaction

00:40:13.550 --> 00:40:14.199
survey.

00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:16.889
We're utilizing that right now so our customers have the

00:40:16.889 --> 00:40:19.480
opportunity to answer three short questions on their

00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:21.199
customer service experience.

00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:23.460
Right now we're seeing about a ninety seven point one

00:40:23.460 --> 00:40:26.199
percent satisfaction rating from our customers on that.

00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:29.260
And one of the last questions that we do ask customers if

00:40:29.260 --> 00:40:32.329
they want to receive a call back on their experience and

00:40:32.329 --> 00:40:35.360
our assumption when we first implemented that is when

00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:36.199
people want to call back.

00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.679
Maybe they didn't get everything they needed to get taken

00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:39.199
care of.

00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:42.440
We actually have seen the exact opposite. Customers are

00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:45.530
wanting a call back to accolade the customer service rep

00:40:45.530 --> 00:40:48.559
that assisted them and to really kind of shout their pra

00:40:48.559 --> 00:40:49.199
ises.

00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:51.590
So I think that's a testament to the staff that we have in

00:40:51.590 --> 00:40:52.199
our shop.

00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:54.079
So we're going to continue to deploy that out to customer

00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:55.199
service reps over the summer.

00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:57.659
We're just kind of tweaking some of the questions with that

00:40:57.659 --> 00:41:00.199
but we're pretty excited with those results thus far.

00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:03.329
We've also reduced the AMI disconnect meter reconnection

00:41:03.329 --> 00:41:05.199
time by almost 50 percent.

00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.719
So previously if we were doing a reconnection for a

00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:10.530
customer we would send out a service order to DME and then

00:41:10.530 --> 00:41:12.639
they would take care of the rest of the steps in order to

00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:13.199
do that.

00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:16.420
In January we took over the rest of those that process so

00:41:16.420 --> 00:41:20.199
we could holistically do it in-house with customer service.

00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:23.489
And by doing that again we've reduced that reconnection

00:41:23.489 --> 00:41:26.199
time by 50 percent for our customers.

00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:28.579
We're piloting the prepaid program right metering program

00:41:28.579 --> 00:41:29.199
right now.

00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:31.230
We have a couple of our internal staff that are on the

00:41:31.230 --> 00:41:32.199
program right now.

00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:35.380
We're working on training and just mapping out some of the

00:41:35.380 --> 00:41:38.199
additional processes throughout the summer.

00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:40.619
We are going to be educating our customers about the

00:41:40.619 --> 00:41:43.409
availability of that and signing customers up throughout

00:41:43.409 --> 00:41:44.199
the summer.

00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:46.969
And in September and October we're really going to do that

00:41:46.969 --> 00:41:49.579
hard push marketing push to get people to sign up on that

00:41:49.579 --> 00:41:50.199
adoption.

00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:53.400
But we do want to do it gradual so we can kind of grow into

00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:56.039
the program make sure that we know what the lessons learned

00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:58.750
are before we really do that full blown deployment with

00:41:58.750 --> 00:41:59.199
that.

00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:01.909
But as the word gets out if customers want to get on that

00:42:01.909 --> 00:42:04.199
we're going to get them signed up for it.

00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:06.650
We also implemented the new credit collection guidelines

00:42:06.650 --> 00:42:09.199
with your direction in city council which included

00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:12.429
executing a homelessness deposit waiver and we enhanced our

00:42:12.429 --> 00:42:15.199
plus one program criteria and funding.

00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:17.719
So for next year we want to report and proactively respond

00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:20.280
to those assistance needs with the data that we're going to

00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:21.199
be collecting.

00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:24.489
We also are working with DME right now on how we can reduce

00:42:24.489 --> 00:42:26.199
the reconnection charge.

00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:29.260
And so right now they're doing their cost of study survey

00:42:29.260 --> 00:42:32.119
and so we want to bring back what that would be and then

00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:35.179
also what the financial impact of that reduction of that

00:42:35.179 --> 00:42:36.199
rate will be.

00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:38.550
So that's something else that we're going to be bringing

00:42:38.550 --> 00:42:40.199
forth to you and a goal for next year.

00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:42.170
And we also want to continue to increase our adoption of

00:42:42.170 --> 00:42:43.199
self service options.

00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:46.199
So looking at the availability of adding a payment

00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:49.639
arrangement option online and then being able to connect

00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:52.199
and transfer services as well online.

00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:56.059
And so our budget emphasis is to maximize value while

00:42:56.059 --> 00:42:57.199
containing cost.

00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:59.840
And so we accomplish this by focusing on our performance

00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:02.449
metrics and some of the ones that we do is the self service

00:43:02.449 --> 00:43:03.199
adoption.

00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:05.579
So we want to make sure to provide multiple channels for

00:43:05.579 --> 00:43:08.199
customers to be able to pay and do their business online.

00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:10.539
We want to make sure that we're accomplishing first contact

00:43:10.539 --> 00:43:11.199
resolution.

00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:13.650
They call us that one time we want to make sure to take

00:43:13.650 --> 00:43:15.199
care of it that first time.

00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:17.780
So we're not creating duplication of effort for our

00:43:17.780 --> 00:43:20.599
customer and also for our staff and then average speed of

00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:21.199
answer.

00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:23.130
We want to get our citizens where they need to go as

00:43:23.130 --> 00:43:25.579
quickly as possible and answer that phone call within 60

00:43:25.579 --> 00:43:26.199
seconds.

00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:29.980
Right now we're averaging about 36 seconds for us to answer

00:43:29.980 --> 00:43:31.199
that phone call.

00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:34.230
And so the key drivers of our budget is the volumes of our

00:43:34.230 --> 00:43:37.530
customer base, the behaviors of our customers, how we

00:43:37.530 --> 00:43:40.539
respond to that volume and then how do we minimize that

00:43:40.539 --> 00:43:41.199
volume.

00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:43.780
And so we do that by reducing volume and improving

00:43:43.780 --> 00:43:47.199
efficiency while also increasing customer satisfaction.

00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:49.699
So we want to continue to invest in those self service

00:43:49.699 --> 00:43:52.550
options like the new payment portal, being able to sign for

00:43:52.550 --> 00:43:54.199
electronic billing online.

00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:57.199
And a critical measure for us is first contact resolution.

00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:00.099
Again, that's providing that holistic solution the first

00:44:00.099 --> 00:44:01.199
time they call in.

00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:04.090
And we measure this through a robust quality assurance

00:44:04.090 --> 00:44:07.139
program in our department where we actually grade eight to

00:44:07.139 --> 00:44:09.860
ten observations from our frontline staff to make sure that

00:44:09.860 --> 00:44:12.869
they're meeting our key performance indicators and offering

00:44:12.869 --> 00:44:15.199
coaching and development and that continuity of service.

00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:18.199
And so we want to continue to improve efficiency.

00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:21.440
We use a workforce management tool that takes historical

00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:24.250
data and tells us how what the forecast is and how we

00:44:24.250 --> 00:44:26.199
should deploy our resources.

00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:28.789
So that tells us where we should let staff go on break

00:44:28.789 --> 00:44:31.559
lunch, how many staff we should let off for the day so we

00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:34.199
can make sure that we meet our service levels.

00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:36.599
And then we want to continue to increase our process

00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:38.199
improvement and automation.

00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:41.440
And then with the new feedback that we're getting from the

00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:44.909
customer service survey, use what our customers are saying

00:44:44.909 --> 00:44:48.010
and then deploy different action items to assist them

00:44:48.010 --> 00:44:49.199
better as well.

00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:51.539
And so these are the results of our cost containment

00:44:51.539 --> 00:44:54.199
strategies and the changes in our customer behavior.

00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:58.469
So since 08 and 09, our customer base has increased by 18.3

00:44:58.469 --> 00:44:59.199
percent.

00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:01.199
Our lobby volume has decreased by 60 percent.

00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:05.059
We used to see over 108,000 more customers in our lobby

00:45:05.059 --> 00:45:06.199
than we do today.

00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:08.730
And that's a direct reflection in that investment in those

00:45:08.730 --> 00:45:11.320
self-service tools that we've been deploying over the last

00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:12.199
several years.

00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:15.579
Our call center volume has increased by 34.7 percent and

00:45:15.579 --> 00:45:19.199
our average handle time has increased by almost 25 percent.

00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:21.280
And that isn't necessarily a bad thing because we are

00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:23.199
providing that first contact resolution.

00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:25.199
So we're not creating an additional callback.

00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:27.900
And we're also working with those customers that have more

00:45:27.900 --> 00:45:30.429
complex issues that we do need to spend a little bit more

00:45:30.429 --> 00:45:31.199
time with.

00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:34.119
And even though our customer base has increased by that 18.

00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.260
3 percent, our average speed of answer, how quickly we're

00:45:37.260 --> 00:45:41.199
answering that phone call, has decreased by 33 percent.

00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:44.510
And with that, a couple of months ago, we had a customer

00:45:44.510 --> 00:45:47.199
bring in her receipt from 1955.

00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:49.409
So 63 years later, she had her original receipt and she

00:45:49.409 --> 00:45:51.199
thought, well, you might want to have it.

00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:54.199
So I thought you would. I guess that's my prop.

00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:55.789
I should have brought it to be cool like you guys, but I

00:45:55.789 --> 00:45:56.199
didn't.

00:45:56.199 --> 00:46:00.809
So it's on the slideshow with that and with that, I'd be

00:46:00.809 --> 00:46:06.010
happy to answer any questions or comments that you may have

00:46:06.010 --> 00:46:06.199
.

00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:13.199
Questions.

00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:17.199
So what was the methodology in 1955 on light and power?

00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:18.199
Because it seems like it's the same thing.

00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:20.199
I'm not sure anybody here was here.

00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:26.199
Questions. I'm sure.

00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:28.199
Do you track first call resolution?

00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:29.199
We sure do.

00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:31.199
How we do you want to know how we track that?

00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:34.300
Well, I mean, I'd like to know what your first call

00:46:34.300 --> 00:46:36.199
resolution percentages.

00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:37.199
Oh, great. It is.

00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:39.199
I don't think you didn't list it there.

00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:42.199
So yeah, it's ninety four point nine percent.

00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:43.199
I just missed it.

00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:45.199
OK. Thank you.

00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:53.199
I had a question on the budget piece, the plus one.

00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:57.199
Which category was that in? Plus one.

00:46:57.199 --> 00:46:59.199
Let's see here.

00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:01.199
It's what line item it is.

00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:03.199
It's under operations.

00:47:03.199 --> 00:47:07.199
Under operations. Yes, sir.

00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:11.869
And that in the eight in the eighteen nineteen budget that

00:47:11.869 --> 00:47:15.199
shows an increase to one twenty five.

00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:17.199
Is that correct? Yes, sir. Correct.

00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:20.199
And did we increase that in seventeen eighteen?

00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:27.079
We actually increase this year, but we have savings that

00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:31.199
will be able to accommodate it.

00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:34.199
Any other? I'm sure there's questions.

00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:37.630
One question, the three percent increase over the five

00:47:37.630 --> 00:47:41.199
years, is that based on historical or how does that drive?

00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:45.190
That is based on my story on that, because that's just what

00:47:45.190 --> 00:47:46.199
we've done in the past.

00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:50.199
But if there is additional methodology.

00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:51.199
That's just a planning number.

00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:53.699
I mean, it approximates the population growth, customer

00:47:53.699 --> 00:47:54.199
growth.

00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:55.199
So it's a plan number.

00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:58.440
We reevaluate that on an annual basis, true it up if we

00:47:58.440 --> 00:47:59.199
need to.

00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:02.300
But for planning purposes, that's just a customary

00:48:02.300 --> 00:48:04.199
percentage that we utilize.

00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:09.199
So how does that compare to actual from previous years?

00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:14.199
Yeah, we know.

00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.199
Yeah, we don't have that right now.

00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:18.199
We can get that back to you.

00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:21.250
And just just to let the people know, we do plan to come

00:48:21.250 --> 00:48:24.599
back to you around the twenty fifth of June to finalize

00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:25.199
that.

00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:28.349
We'll bring back any answers to any questions that we don't

00:48:28.349 --> 00:48:29.199
have today.

00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:32.079
But today we are seeking direction from you that if this is

00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:34.559
something that you'd like for us to pursue and breaking

00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:37.829
this out as an internal service fund, then we'll come back

00:48:37.829 --> 00:48:39.199
to you as such around the twenty fifth.

00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:44.199
But we'll get a response to you on that question.

00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:47.289
Yeah, I just wanted to say as far as I'm concerned, I

00:48:47.289 --> 00:48:52.079
really like this idea of separating the having a separate

00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:54.199
internal service fund.

00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:56.199
I actually was had not been aware.

00:48:56.199 --> 00:49:00.469
I don't know about the rest of you that it was lumped

00:49:00.469 --> 00:49:02.199
together with water.

00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:06.199
So that seems to me arbitrary.

00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:08.199
That was a kind of arbitrary.

00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:10.119
I'm sure there was some reason behind it, but it looks

00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:12.000
arbitrary and it doesn't look like it was good for the

00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:13.199
water department either.

00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:15.199
So it's better for water.

00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:16.199
It's better for customer service.

00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:18.199
It's better for the public for transparency.

00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:22.469
And now when questions arise about the about what's being

00:49:22.469 --> 00:49:28.010
spent in the internal service fund, it'll also be easier to

00:49:28.010 --> 00:49:33.199
separate those numbers and and calculate them.

00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:36.099
So anyway, this is an excellent resolution to a problem I

00:49:36.099 --> 00:49:39.199
didn't I didn't even know existed until reading about it.

00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:46.199
But I myself approve very much.

00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:48.199
Yeah, I mean, go ahead.

00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:49.199
No, I approve, too.

00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:51.199
I think it's a great idea to do it this way.

00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:53.199
And I'm sure it started that way.

00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:57.940
Maybe water was the biggest person or department or

00:49:57.940 --> 00:49:59.199
whatever.

00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:03.199
Sometimes you just do things and keep doing them.

00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:07.469
You know, I guess the the obviously other than the than

00:50:07.469 --> 00:50:11.199
having it all in one place where you can see it.

00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:15.059
We've all known that there's been, you know, cost of

00:50:15.059 --> 00:50:17.199
service to all the utilities.

00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:18.199
There's really not any change there.

00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:22.469
I guess a major financial change is going to be the reserve

00:50:22.469 --> 00:50:25.199
requirements for the water fund.

00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:29.460
I mean, that's if we were reserving based upon what we were

00:50:29.460 --> 00:50:33.280
collecting cost of service from all the other utilities,

00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:38.199
that's a that's a huge, huge part of the waterfront.

00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:40.860
That's a big number, as you can see, one and a half to two

00:50:40.860 --> 00:50:42.199
point three million.

00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:44.199
That's that's to me.

00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:51.199
That's a major financial impact for this is doing that.

00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:57.070
So now we go from having more more days and reserves for

00:50:57.070 --> 00:50:58.199
water.

00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:00.199
Yes, it definitely right.

00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:02.199
It's an opportunity.

00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:04.760
It increased the reserve a little bit more than it needed

00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:05.199
to be.

00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:07.670
And we also get questions on occasion for exactly how

00:51:07.670 --> 00:51:09.199
customer service is funded.

00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:11.210
So the way that we've laid that out, I'm hoping that

00:51:11.210 --> 00:51:13.199
explains to the public a little bit better.

00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:16.199
Transparent.

00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:17.199
Yep. Very good.

00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:20.199
Any other questions?

00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:21.199
No. Thank you.

00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:25.199
Thank you. Appreciate it.

00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:28.880
Okay, next, next time we have in the work session is to is

00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:32.659
item C, which is to receive a report, hold a discussion and

00:51:32.659 --> 00:51:37.070
give staff direction regarding the water fiscal year 2018

00:51:37.070 --> 00:51:48.199
19 operating and capital budget.

00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:52.880
So, Mr. Chairman, again, Tony pointed director finance, a

00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:56.199
PB members, thank you for having me today.

00:51:56.199 --> 00:52:00.460
Over the last several months, we've had a lot of internal

00:52:00.460 --> 00:52:04.280
staff discussions, certainly as as you've just seen,

00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:07.869
breaking out the customer service operation from the water

00:52:07.869 --> 00:52:11.199
front was was a result of some of those internal discussions

00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:13.199
feedback that we've gotten in the past.

00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:15.969
And so you'll see the impact of that today and very similar

00:52:15.969 --> 00:52:18.199
to what we've done on the solid waste side.

00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:20.199
We really looked at this operation.

00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:24.599
We've also looked at the CIP program to make sure that that

00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:28.199
those were in line and easily justifiable.

00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:30.199
So I'm happy to present to you today.

00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:33.199
Our proposed budget.

00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:35.429
As you saw in your backup, we do have two options that we

00:52:35.429 --> 00:52:37.699
want to discuss with you today and certainly get your

00:52:37.699 --> 00:52:41.000
feedback and your direction on which option you you would

00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:42.199
you would like for us to do.

00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:47.199
You would like for us to continue to proceed with.

00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:51.469
So, just briefly want to talk with you a little bit about

00:52:51.469 --> 00:52:53.199
our customer base.

00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:57.519
So as you can see, we've had a, you know, roughly a 2%

00:52:57.519 --> 00:53:00.199
increase in our customer base.

00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:04.460
And that goes to something very similar to what we see on

00:53:04.460 --> 00:53:08.750
the population side. We've broken it out for you between

00:53:08.750 --> 00:53:12.860
residential, commercial, wholesale. And so you can see that

00:53:12.860 --> 00:53:14.199
the total growth has been around 2%.

00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:18.570
2015 and 2016 we saw a little bit higher increase that we

00:53:18.570 --> 00:53:21.590
had in the prior two years and certainly last year we

00:53:21.590 --> 00:53:24.199
dropped back down to about 1.5%.

00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:28.909
So, on average, it's been about a 2% growth in our in our

00:53:28.909 --> 00:53:30.199
customers.

00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:37.250
So, I wanted to kind of show you this this this chart here

00:53:37.250 --> 00:53:44.610
and let me say that in the past, the department has brought

00:53:44.610 --> 00:53:51.239
forward to the PB a separate presentation regarding

00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:55.900
customer class and volume. What we've done this time just

00:53:55.900 --> 00:53:57.150
for expediency purposes of we've kind of combined this

00:53:57.150 --> 00:53:58.199
along with the financial trends.

00:53:58.199 --> 00:54:00.699
We have both the loose field treatment plant and also the

00:54:00.699 --> 00:54:04.469
Ray Roberts treatment plant. We have the green shaded area

00:54:04.469 --> 00:54:09.570
represents the loose field treatment plant that's about 25

00:54:09.570 --> 00:54:11.199
29.

00:54:11.199 --> 00:54:16.389
And then we currently have the Ray Roberts, which is the

00:54:16.389 --> 00:54:22.139
first shaded area that adds, I believe about 20 mgd based

00:54:22.139 --> 00:54:27.469
on where our customer demand has been and where our

00:54:27.469 --> 00:54:29.199
production has been.

00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:33.570
This expansion about a 30 mgd expansion to the Ray Roberts

00:54:33.570 --> 00:54:37.969
plant will come somewhere in 2027 when we talk to you a

00:54:37.969 --> 00:54:42.199
little bit about our CIP program will talk to you about.

00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:45.769
We've already started to make plans within the five year C

00:54:45.769 --> 00:54:49.769
IP plan for a $9 million design of that expansion. Again,

00:54:49.769 --> 00:54:53.869
with all these programs will continue to evaluate those as

00:54:53.869 --> 00:54:55.199
we move forward.

00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:58.369
Our production levels have been what our demand is from our

00:54:58.369 --> 00:55:02.650
customers. As you can see, we have a couple of outliers

00:55:02.650 --> 00:55:07.130
here over the last two years where we've actually seen a

00:55:07.130 --> 00:55:10.199
decrease in our peak water usage.

00:55:10.199 --> 00:55:14.469
But again, we continue to budget basically what's

00:55:14.469 --> 00:55:19.579
considered a normal year. That's the blue trend line. The

00:55:19.579 --> 00:55:24.329
red trend line is a dry year. The green trend line is a wet

00:55:24.329 --> 00:55:28.840
year. And so we budget based on a normal year for

00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:31.199
production purposes.

00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:34.250
One of the water assumptions, some of the assumptions that

00:55:34.250 --> 00:55:37.159
have gone into this forecast is that all rates are based on

00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:40.010
cost of service. We do have a cost of service rate model

00:55:40.010 --> 00:55:41.199
that we utilize.

00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:46.230
We maintain a debt service coverage ratio of 1.25% or

00:55:46.230 --> 00:55:49.829
higher. That's a standard that's utilized by most bond

00:55:49.829 --> 00:55:53.130
rating agencies, but it's also part of our debt policy for

00:55:53.130 --> 00:55:56.590
our utilities is to maintain that, maintain that not just

00:55:56.590 --> 00:56:00.199
as a utility system, but for each individual utility.

00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:03.659
We have standard targets that we've had historically here

00:56:03.659 --> 00:56:07.309
at the City of Denton. 100% revenue funding of our

00:56:07.309 --> 00:56:11.539
distribution system replacements, 25% revenue funding, and

00:56:11.539 --> 00:56:15.269
75% debt funding of any treatment plant infrastructure

00:56:15.269 --> 00:56:19.199
expansion primarily or just infrastructure.

00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:23.059
And then our target has been on the reserve side on the

00:56:23.059 --> 00:56:27.550
operating reserve, 33% to 50%. This is a customary tool

00:56:27.550 --> 00:56:31.329
that's used when you have a range of targets to allow you

00:56:31.329 --> 00:56:36.199
flexibility and that way, you know, there's a floor of 33%,

00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:41.179
but it can be as high as 50% and we manage to those targets

00:56:41.179 --> 00:56:45.199
, about 120 to 180 day range.

00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:48.570
Also, the last two pieces here, multi-year financial

00:56:48.570 --> 00:56:52.480
planning to minimize rate increases. If you recall for last

00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:56.139
year's presentation, there was an assumed 2% increase in

00:56:56.139 --> 00:56:59.869
rates for the five-year plan. In both scenarios that we

00:56:59.869 --> 00:57:03.199
have for you today, those have been eliminated.

00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:07.039
And, you know, some of that has to do with the fact that we

00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:10.880
've pulled out this customer service operation that was

00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:14.869
building on top of that reserve that it won't do that now.

00:57:14.869 --> 00:57:19.460
And then finally, rate revenue forecast is based on 145

00:57:19.460 --> 00:57:21.199
gallons per customer per day.

00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:24.469
So some cost containment strategies that we've utilized,

00:57:24.469 --> 00:57:27.719
not just this year, but really, really starting last year

00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:31.010
was to improve our debt service efficiency by balancing CIP

00:57:31.010 --> 00:57:34.269
s and our cash flows, making sure that we're issuing debt,

00:57:34.269 --> 00:57:37.690
that we're transferring money over to our capital program

00:57:37.690 --> 00:57:41.389
as those projects are coming forward and we begin to enc

00:57:41.389 --> 00:57:43.199
umber those funds.

00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:47.469
We also include a assumed salary savings for just normal

00:57:47.469 --> 00:57:51.800
attrition and turnover within our operation. We reduced

00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:55.329
revenue funded capital in 19 by 2 million to level out the

00:57:55.329 --> 00:57:58.159
five-year. And so we've tried to smooth that out on what we

00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:00.199
're contributing to our capital program.

00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:03.199
And then we removed customer service, as we've talked to

00:58:03.199 --> 00:58:05.960
you already, from this budget to better reflect the

00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:09.289
operating days and the reserves. The only piece that's now,

00:58:09.289 --> 00:58:12.349
that's kept in the water fund is water's contributions and

00:58:12.349 --> 00:58:16.469
expenditure to that internal service fund and that's

00:58:16.469 --> 00:58:24.199
utilized to, as part of the calculation for the reserve.

00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:27.340
Like every business and public enterprise that we have,

00:58:27.340 --> 00:58:30.280
there are certain risks associated and so we wanted to

00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:33.190
point those out for you just so that you know that we're

00:58:33.190 --> 00:58:36.369
cognizant of these things and might be coming in the future

00:58:36.369 --> 00:58:39.199
that might impact this financial forecast.

00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:42.730
Raw water transmission lines costs, the Lewisville Dam

00:58:42.730 --> 00:58:46.170
repair, that's an issue that you've heard in the paper

00:58:46.170 --> 00:58:50.070
recently. Obviously I've already talked a little bit about

00:58:50.070 --> 00:58:54.090
this 30MGD expansion for Ray Roberts that we'll continue to

00:58:54.090 --> 00:58:55.199
evaluate.

00:58:55.199 --> 00:59:00.039
It's currently outside of our planning window, other than

00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:04.199
we have a $9 million plan design in 2022.

00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:08.659
And another transmission line replacements funding is also

00:59:08.659 --> 00:59:11.780
an issue that we need to be aware of. And then age and

00:59:11.780 --> 00:59:14.679
condition of Lewisville pump station. And then finally we

00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:19.199
do have a declining per capita water usage.

00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:22.960
We've seen that over the last couple of years. We believe

00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:26.409
that some of it, or a large part of it has to do with just

00:59:26.409 --> 00:59:30.289
the fact that our customers have more efficient appliances

00:59:30.289 --> 00:59:34.130
within their home, maybe a little bit more cognizant of the

00:59:34.130 --> 00:59:36.199
water issues in the area.

00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:39.949
So the two options that we wanted to talk to you about

00:59:39.949 --> 00:59:44.260
today, and let me say that our recommendation to you today

00:59:44.260 --> 00:59:48.079
is option one, but certainly if the PUB would like to

00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:53.199
entertain option two, certainly that's your prerogative.

00:59:53.199 --> 00:59:57.469
So option two does include a 2% rate decrease across the

00:59:57.469 --> 01:00:01.449
entire system. We'll be coming back to you in a future

01:00:01.449 --> 01:00:05.650
meeting to talk to you about what that means specifically

01:00:05.650 --> 01:00:09.769
to each individual rate class as we model that within our

01:00:09.769 --> 01:00:11.199
rate model.

01:00:11.199 --> 01:00:15.820
And then option two, and so option one is an option two

01:00:15.820 --> 01:00:20.550
that eliminates any future rate increases as well that

01:00:20.550 --> 01:00:25.800
previously been included. Option two, basically this is a

01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:28.989
no rate increase next year or any of the other four years

01:00:28.989 --> 01:00:30.199
of the five year plan.

01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:33.690
But what we've done is because there is additional reserves

01:00:33.690 --> 01:00:37.269
or above the minimum reserve, we've increased the amount of

01:00:37.269 --> 01:00:40.630
revenue funding capital and decreased the amount of debt

01:00:40.630 --> 01:00:43.199
that we'll plan to issue in the future.

01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:47.199
So those are option one, option two.

01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:51.789
So just quickly, I wanted to walk you through our option

01:00:51.789 --> 01:00:56.989
one forecast. As you can see here, we in this forecast, the

01:00:56.989 --> 01:01:02.199
2% decrease in rate revenue, no increases in the future.

01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:08.059
Our reserve target or our reserve ends at about 20.746

01:01:08.059 --> 01:01:13.079
million, but yet that's still a little bit above where our

01:01:13.079 --> 01:01:19.420
minimum range is about 15.5 million, maximum is 23. So

01:01:19.420 --> 01:01:23.199
again, we're managing to that range.

01:01:23.199 --> 01:01:27.630
If you look out in the out years, we stay pretty well above

01:01:27.630 --> 01:01:32.139
each one of those, the minimums. And so we think this is a

01:01:32.139 --> 01:01:35.199
good solid plan for the community.

01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:42.199
Our debt service remains above 1.25 each year of the plan.

01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:46.869
And so again, just wanted to just reiterate this plan is a

01:01:46.869 --> 01:01:52.199
2% decrease for next year, no rate increases in the future.

01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:57.239
Option two is the no rate changes. And again, as I

01:01:57.239 --> 01:02:01.159
mentioned, what this plan does, it reduces the amount of

01:02:01.159 --> 01:02:05.139
debt service that is planned to be issued going forward in

01:02:05.139 --> 01:02:07.199
each of those last four years.

01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:10.840
Now we evaluate, just so the board knows, we evaluate every

01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:14.050
year where our CIP program is, and before we issue any

01:02:14.050 --> 01:02:17.760
bonds, we make those decisions. The last two years, we've

01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:20.760
not had to issue any debt for this utility and we'll

01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:23.199
continue to do that as we go forward.

01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:27.099
And so we'll only issue the debt when those projects are

01:02:27.099 --> 01:02:28.199
ready to go.

01:02:28.199 --> 01:02:32.530
And so within this plan, as I mentioned, it's a little bit

01:02:32.530 --> 01:02:37.320
better as far as our operating reserves for fiscal year 19,

01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:42.980
we're at about 18.4 million out to the final year of 2023,

01:02:42.980 --> 01:02:45.199
18.8 million.

01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:48.960
Again, each one of those years is well above the minimum

01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:52.880
range for the financial forecast or for the targets that we

01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:55.199
've established for this fund.

01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:59.059
Some of the highlights for you, as you can see, this is a

01:02:59.059 --> 01:03:02.539
breakdown and we've given you a three year history of where

01:03:02.539 --> 01:03:06.199
those revenues have been by each individual class.

01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:09.989
I will mention that the cost of service that you see here

01:03:09.989 --> 01:03:14.449
for General Fund, electric, wastewater, and solid waste are

01:03:14.449 --> 01:03:18.389
attributable to some of the management oversight that's

01:03:18.389 --> 01:03:22.679
included in the water fund, our utility administration that

01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:25.909
oversees some of these functions that are outside of this

01:03:25.909 --> 01:03:26.199
fund.

01:03:26.199 --> 01:03:30.449
And so there'll still be some revenues that are coming into

01:03:30.449 --> 01:03:33.199
this fund to recover some of those costs.

01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:38.099
Our budget highlights on the expenditure side, as you can

01:03:38.099 --> 01:03:43.010
see, we do break these out by classification, you know,

01:03:43.010 --> 01:03:47.199
heavy concentration here in our debt service.

01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:51.469
And so we'll continue, like I mentioned, we'll continue to

01:03:51.469 --> 01:03:55.429
evaluate that going forward, only issue the debt that we

01:03:55.429 --> 01:03:59.199
actually need for the projects that are ready to go.

01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:02.369
So currently, where our rates are for just wanted to give

01:04:02.369 --> 01:04:05.469
you kind of a brief picture again, this is all subject to

01:04:05.469 --> 01:04:06.199
change.

01:04:06.199 --> 01:04:10.059
But our current rates is this yellow bar that's where we

01:04:10.059 --> 01:04:14.699
currently are for a customer that's utilizing about 920,000

01:04:14.699 --> 01:04:18.159
gallons per year on the residential side, with a 2%

01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:22.199
decrease that slightly moves us to the left of that.

01:04:22.199 --> 01:04:26.460
We anticipate that some of these comparable utilities will

01:04:26.460 --> 01:04:30.199
likely be seeing increases in water rates this next year.

01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:32.630
We've still not been able to confirm that they're still

01:04:32.630 --> 01:04:34.199
also working on their budgets.

01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:37.079
But as we get that information, we'll bring that back to

01:04:37.079 --> 01:04:39.199
the PAB to let you know where they are.

01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:40.199
Yes, ma'am.

01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:44.199
Increases, did you mean decreases?

01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:47.300
These comparable utilities will likely see increases in

01:04:47.300 --> 01:04:48.199
their rates.

01:04:48.199 --> 01:04:49.199
Increases, okay.

01:04:49.199 --> 01:04:50.199
Yes, correct.

01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:53.980
So with this proposed decrease, we'll actually be further

01:04:53.980 --> 01:04:56.199
to the left of this comparison.

01:04:56.199 --> 01:04:57.199
Good, thanks.

01:04:57.199 --> 01:04:59.199
Yes, ma'am.

01:04:59.199 --> 01:05:01.670
For a commercial customer, again, this is, again, the

01:05:01.670 --> 01:05:02.199
impact.

01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:05.110
Again, we'll need to put all this into our model and bring

01:05:05.110 --> 01:05:07.769
that back to you to get you a better idea of where we're

01:05:07.769 --> 01:05:09.199
actually going to be.

01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:11.199
This assumes a 2% decrease.

01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:15.769
Again, as this information becomes available for what these

01:05:15.769 --> 01:05:20.199
utilities are going to be doing, we'll bring that back.

01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:22.530
But likely this will continue to push us further to the

01:05:22.530 --> 01:05:25.199
left where we are, even with our commercial customers.

01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:30.860
And then finally, we show you a commercial customer with

01:05:30.860 --> 01:05:36.199
200,000 gallons of usage per year.

01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:40.199
So that wraps up my piece of the presentation.

01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:41.829
We can either, if you have questions, we can go through

01:05:41.829 --> 01:05:44.469
that now, or the department is going to come up and go

01:05:44.469 --> 01:05:46.199
through their presentation.

01:05:46.199 --> 01:05:49.199
But whatever you would like, yes, ma'am.

01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:54.329
On personal services, I always look at actuals from prior

01:05:54.329 --> 01:05:55.199
years.

01:05:55.199 --> 01:06:01.800
Why are we going from roughly $6.8 million in actuals for

01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:06.199
personal services to $8.85?

01:06:06.199 --> 01:06:11.199
We don't have any FD counties in that.

01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:14.199
We don't have any pre-staff in there, right?

01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:16.199
Two?

01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:18.199
No, some customer service.

01:06:18.199 --> 01:06:41.199
We have a lot of salary savings in the previous years.

01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:44.559
Each year in the past, we have a lot of turnover in salary

01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:47.199
savings, so that's why they're lower.

01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:50.699
We budget each year based on all the employees that we have

01:06:50.699 --> 01:06:53.199
fully being there for the full year.

01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:55.199
So there is a difference in that.

01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:58.699
And we can get you how many positions were empty in the

01:06:58.699 --> 01:07:01.199
previous years, if you'd like.

01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:02.199
You answered the question.

01:07:02.199 --> 01:07:03.199
Thank you.

01:07:03.199 --> 01:07:04.199
Excellent.

01:07:04.199 --> 01:07:06.900
That would be interesting to see, because I know we have

01:07:06.900 --> 01:07:08.199
unfilled positions.

01:07:08.199 --> 01:07:12.199
We budget for them, but they go unfilled.

01:07:12.199 --> 01:07:16.469
So if we're actually getting to what the actual filled

01:07:16.469 --> 01:07:19.199
positions would be, is that what we're saying?

01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:20.199
Correct.

01:07:20.199 --> 01:07:22.750
And what we can do is, with the other question that was

01:07:22.750 --> 01:07:26.039
asked on customer service, we can bring that back to the P

01:07:26.039 --> 01:07:28.199
AB and show you what that trend has been.

01:07:28.199 --> 01:07:29.199
Okay.

01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:31.199
Okay.

01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:33.199
Other questions?

01:07:33.199 --> 01:07:34.199
I had a question.

01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:38.920
To me, it seems, just looking at the two options, it seems

01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:45.869
counterintuitive that you'd have a rate decrease and have

01:07:45.869 --> 01:07:50.199
less net loss than you would.

01:07:50.199 --> 01:07:53.230
But I just want to point out that it looks like it's coming

01:07:53.230 --> 01:07:55.199
out of revenue-funded capital.

01:07:55.199 --> 01:07:59.000
The no rate increase, there's more revenue-funded capital

01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:00.199
in that number.

01:08:00.199 --> 01:08:01.199
That's correct.

01:08:01.199 --> 01:08:02.199
Is that correct?

01:08:02.199 --> 01:08:04.199
Correct.

01:08:04.199 --> 01:08:06.760
Again, the plan would be to issue less debt and revenue

01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:08.199
fund more of that capital.

01:08:08.199 --> 01:08:09.199
Right.

01:08:09.199 --> 01:08:14.239
And also, on the 145-gallon per customer per day, I know it

01:08:14.239 --> 01:08:16.199
's been trending down.

01:08:16.199 --> 01:08:18.199
You said it was a two-year trend.

01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:21.199
I don't know if two years is a trend.

01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:25.199
It could be just a phenomenon.

01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:35.789
But looking at the wet years versus dry years, it's hard to

01:08:35.789 --> 01:08:42.390
look at it 12 months because you may get rain in certain

01:08:42.390 --> 01:08:45.659
times of the year when you expect your water usage to be up

01:08:45.659 --> 01:08:47.199
and you didn't use it.

01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:55.569
And so I think that's what we saw. We had an extremely wet

01:08:55.569 --> 01:08:56.199
year before last, and it was down.

01:08:56.199 --> 01:09:01.229
But then not as quite a wet year, almost a normal year, and

01:09:01.229 --> 01:09:03.199
it was down as well.

01:09:03.199 --> 01:09:07.460
And it's not so much the amount of rain, it's the timing of

01:09:07.460 --> 01:09:09.199
when the rain happens.

01:09:09.199 --> 01:09:13.060
I will tell you, and I do have that here for you, the

01:09:13.060 --> 01:09:18.199
gallons per customer per day in 2013 was about 158.

01:09:18.199 --> 01:09:21.199
In 2014, it went down to 138.

01:09:21.199 --> 01:09:23.199
2015, 140.

01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:25.199
2016, 140.

01:09:25.199 --> 01:09:28.199
2017, 134.

01:09:28.199 --> 01:09:33.199
We're estimating 142 for this year.

01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:36.199
And so that is something that we're cognizant of.

01:09:36.199 --> 01:09:39.180
Again, Mr. Chairman, I'm not sure that three years, four

01:09:39.180 --> 01:09:42.390
years is a trend, but it's certainly something we're aware

01:09:42.390 --> 01:09:45.069
of and it's something that we may need to take action

01:09:45.069 --> 01:09:46.199
before too long.

01:09:46.199 --> 01:09:49.140
So it is something we're aware of. It's something that we

01:09:49.140 --> 01:09:50.199
do track.

01:09:50.199 --> 01:09:53.380
>> I would just add, Mr. Chairman, on page six, the water,

01:09:53.380 --> 01:09:56.390
the future risks and mitigation, this is something I

01:09:56.390 --> 01:09:58.199
promised him I'd bring up.

01:09:58.199 --> 01:10:03.520
But these are all huge costs. It's something that we manage

01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:07.420
the reserves very closely. We're trying to be as customer

01:10:07.420 --> 01:10:09.199
friendly as we can in terms of our needs.

01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:11.199
We're asking for what we need at this point.

01:10:11.199 --> 01:10:14.119
But there's a lot of large projects out there that are

01:10:14.119 --> 01:10:17.319
requiring several years of advanced planning in terms of

01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:19.199
when we're issuing the debt.

01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:21.399
So I think it's just always something you're pointing out

01:10:21.399 --> 01:10:23.199
the volatility of funding, you're right.

01:10:23.199 --> 01:10:25.970
And there's also some definite risks out there that are

01:10:25.970 --> 01:10:28.779
high dollar ones that we just want to make sure everybody

01:10:28.779 --> 01:10:30.199
is completely aware of.

01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:32.199
>> Okay.

01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:34.199
>> Any questions?

01:10:34.199 --> 01:10:38.199
>> I have a question. Maybe I'm looking at this wrong.

01:10:38.199 --> 01:10:44.800
But under option one on the budget, 2% rate decrease and we

01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:51.399
're showing plan, am I looking at this right, the revenue of

01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:54.199
43.128?

01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:57.199
>> The 2% is actually for fiscal year '19.

01:10:57.199 --> 01:10:58.199
>> Okay.

01:10:58.199 --> 01:11:04.199
>> Yeah. So the total revenue there is 44.9 million.

01:11:04.199 --> 01:11:10.199
>> Okay. Versus the 45 if you had no rate change.

01:11:10.199 --> 01:11:13.199
>> Yes, versus 45 and option two.

01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:14.199
>> Okay. Thank you.

01:11:14.199 --> 01:11:15.199
>> Yes, sir.

01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:18.380
>> And I would just add to the questions that have been

01:11:18.380 --> 01:11:20.199
asked about the decrease.

01:11:20.199 --> 01:11:23.279
The other thing we're really trying to do is not add to the

01:11:23.279 --> 01:11:24.199
debt burden.

01:11:24.199 --> 01:11:29.039
It's very obvious in 2023, 2024, when that next expansion

01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:32.739
becomes necessary to plan for it, you know, we're trying to

01:11:32.739 --> 01:11:34.199
create some room.

01:11:34.199 --> 01:11:36.399
So to the extent that we've got additional reserves right

01:11:36.399 --> 01:11:38.199
now, we can pay for revenue funded capital.

01:11:38.199 --> 01:11:39.199
We're doing that.

01:11:39.199 --> 01:11:41.829
But we're very concerned about how can we retire as much

01:11:41.829 --> 01:11:44.479
debt before we're going to have to, you know, bring on

01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:46.199
additional debt for that next plan expansion.

01:11:46.199 --> 01:11:52.199
So that really is driving most of our mindset right now.

01:11:52.199 --> 01:11:54.649
>> I'll go ahead and ask Dr. Banks will come up here and he

01:11:54.649 --> 01:11:57.060
'll walk you through kind of the departmental section of

01:11:57.060 --> 01:11:58.199
this presentation.

01:11:58.199 --> 01:11:59.199
Yes, ma'am.

01:11:59.199 --> 01:12:04.409
>> I just wanted to say just to point out first that I

01:12:04.409 --> 01:12:10.529
applaud the proposed rate decrease and it's good news to

01:12:10.529 --> 01:12:15.199
hear about the reduction in per capita water usage.

01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:19.470
And as you mentioned, you know, that part of the cause or

01:12:19.470 --> 01:12:23.560
maybe most of it is due to just improvements in technology

01:12:23.560 --> 01:12:26.199
that don't waste as much water.

01:12:26.199 --> 01:12:31.119
But it's also the case that water has a rate structure that

01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:36.010
encourages conservation by just by default, by having a

01:12:36.010 --> 01:12:39.920
higher rate for commercial and a lower rate for residential

01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:40.199
.

01:12:40.199 --> 01:12:44.750
And I have always liked that and I have always thought that

01:12:44.750 --> 01:12:49.560
, you know, wanted to see that policy at least explored with

01:12:49.560 --> 01:12:52.199
our electric company as well.

01:12:52.199 --> 01:12:56.460
I was wondering one question I had regarding that is, you

01:12:56.460 --> 01:13:01.430
know, to your knowledge, have there ever been complaints

01:13:01.430 --> 01:13:06.409
from commercial customers that, you know, what about why do

01:13:06.409 --> 01:13:09.199
residents pay less than we do?

01:13:09.199 --> 01:13:12.560
Not to my knowledge. I'm looking at Dr. Banks. No, not to

01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:13.199
our knowledge.

01:13:13.199 --> 01:13:17.460
Okay. Well, and that's that's wonderful to hear. So anyway,

01:13:17.460 --> 01:13:18.199
thank you.

01:13:18.199 --> 01:13:23.310
Morning board members, Kenny Banks, general manager of

01:13:23.310 --> 01:13:28.750
utilities. I'm here to give the departmental presentation

01:13:28.750 --> 01:13:34.470
component of the water utilities presentation. I appreciate

01:13:34.470 --> 01:13:39.199
the opportunity to bring this information to you.

01:13:39.199 --> 01:13:42.829
We'll talk a little bit about our accomplishments to start

01:13:42.829 --> 01:13:47.029
out with for 1718. We started our five year update of the

01:13:47.029 --> 01:13:49.199
water wastewater impact fees.

01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:52.229
We're currently working with the capital improvements

01:13:52.229 --> 01:13:55.390
advisory committee, which is a group that is put together

01:13:55.390 --> 01:13:57.199
to review those impact fees.

01:13:57.199 --> 01:14:00.689
Initially, we will be bringing those back to you later this

01:14:00.689 --> 01:14:01.199
year.

01:14:01.199 --> 01:14:04.729
We started the 25 year water distribution master plan. We

01:14:04.729 --> 01:14:08.020
completed a preliminary design for solids handling for the

01:14:08.020 --> 01:14:11.100
Louisville water treatment plant and we're moving into

01:14:11.100 --> 01:14:12.199
final design.

01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:16.010
Very important project for us. The solids handling there

01:14:16.010 --> 01:14:19.770
has become a bit of a challenge and and this will allow us

01:14:19.770 --> 01:14:23.869
to more effectively dewater the solids and will also help

01:14:23.869 --> 01:14:26.199
out on the wastewater side as well.

01:14:26.199 --> 01:14:31.199
We completed the Lake Louisville buoy installation project.

01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:35.260
This is the buoy line that goes in on the what is known as

01:14:35.260 --> 01:14:38.199
the party cove on Lake Louisville.

01:14:38.199 --> 01:14:42.470
Basically where the intake structure is on right there by

01:14:42.470 --> 01:14:44.199
the I 35 bridge.

01:14:44.199 --> 01:14:48.199
We, I'm sorry.

01:14:48.199 --> 01:14:53.130
We completed a chlorine boosting facility at the South

01:14:53.130 --> 01:14:58.329
waste elevated storage tower. This is the storage tower

01:14:58.329 --> 01:15:03.199
that is on the lively road that is supplying the Rose Ranch

01:15:03.199 --> 01:15:04.199
community.

01:15:04.199 --> 01:15:07.289
It's far out in the system and and bit of a challenge to

01:15:07.289 --> 01:15:10.659
deal with with regards to turnover in the water at the tank

01:15:10.659 --> 01:15:14.100
during certain times of the year or so an important project

01:15:14.100 --> 01:15:17.319
to get get in there and and make sure the water quality is

01:15:17.319 --> 01:15:21.199
as high as it could possibly be in that facility.

01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:24.829
We did also complete our water distribution projects in

01:15:24.829 --> 01:15:28.920
advance of the plan bond funded street reconstruction work.

01:15:28.920 --> 01:15:32.010
This is a very important issue for both water and

01:15:32.010 --> 01:15:36.020
wastewater to get in there, evaluate those lines, make sure

01:15:36.020 --> 01:15:39.199
that if a street project is going in.

01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:41.890
Those lines need to be replaced based on our asset

01:15:41.890 --> 01:15:45.069
management or condition assessments. We want to get in

01:15:45.069 --> 01:15:48.029
there and get those done as a part of that construction

01:15:48.029 --> 01:15:51.199
process so that we are as cost effective as we can be.

01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:55.960
And also, so we only disturb the neighborhood or inconven

01:15:55.960 --> 01:15:58.199
ience to citizens one time.

01:15:58.199 --> 01:16:02.090
Some goals that we have coming up for the upcoming year is

01:16:02.090 --> 01:16:06.069
to complete our five year update of our wastewater impact

01:16:06.069 --> 01:16:10.430
fee study complete the 25 year water distribution master

01:16:10.430 --> 01:16:11.199
plan.

01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:14.140
We are currently in process of working on our 10 year

01:16:14.140 --> 01:16:17.159
utility management study item was brought to you as a work

01:16:17.159 --> 01:16:18.199
session item.

01:16:18.199 --> 01:16:20.199
A few meetings back on that.

01:16:20.199 --> 01:16:23.470
This is a charter requirement and we're actively working on

01:16:23.470 --> 01:16:24.199
that now.

01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:27.430
We're beginning construction of the Lake Louisville water

01:16:27.430 --> 01:16:30.539
treatment plant phase two rehabilitation and the solids

01:16:30.539 --> 01:16:34.010
handling projects so design was done last year we're moving

01:16:34.010 --> 01:16:38.029
into the actual treatment, our actual implementation of

01:16:38.029 --> 01:16:41.199
that treatment plant project.

01:16:41.199 --> 01:16:44.729
This is a big project. It has a lot of moving parts. A lot

01:16:44.729 --> 01:16:48.100
of it is related to our our switch gear and our pump motor

01:16:48.100 --> 01:16:51.579
system that's out there that needs to be rehabilitated is

01:16:51.579 --> 01:16:55.199
going to involve the construction of a of a new building

01:16:55.199 --> 01:17:00.529
out there that will house our skater system and some of the

01:17:00.529 --> 01:17:02.199
technology necessary to run the plant.

01:17:02.199 --> 01:17:06.859
And then also it will involve some rehabilitation of some

01:17:06.859 --> 01:17:11.500
of the treatment technologies there at the plant. We are

01:17:11.500 --> 01:17:14.199
going to complete the Ray Roberts treatment plan and

01:17:14.199 --> 01:17:17.050
equipment assessment move into final design for plant

01:17:17.050 --> 01:17:18.199
rehabilitation.

01:17:18.199 --> 01:17:23.920
As Tony mentioned earlier that that plant right now is a 20

01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:29.510
million gallon per day plant. It's designed in four phases

01:17:29.510 --> 01:17:34.119
it can go up to 100 M.G.D. and basically it's designed to

01:17:34.119 --> 01:17:37.590
go 20 30 for the first phase and then 20 30 for the second

01:17:37.590 --> 01:17:38.199
phase.

01:17:38.199 --> 01:17:41.369
So as we move into the project of doing the 30 M.G.D.

01:17:41.369 --> 01:17:44.329
expansion that's right on the outside of our five year CIP

01:17:44.329 --> 01:17:47.270
right now we want to be sure that we have rehabilitated and

01:17:47.270 --> 01:17:51.470
assess the 20 M.G.D. so it's in good shape prior to moving

01:17:51.470 --> 01:17:53.199
into that 30 M.G.D. expansion.

01:17:53.199 --> 01:17:56.770
So this is part of that project. We are implementing a

01:17:56.770 --> 01:18:00.539
water info master program basically a computer assisted

01:18:00.539 --> 01:18:04.460
decision making program for our water line infrastructure

01:18:04.460 --> 01:18:08.029
replacements just to help us be even more efficient and

01:18:08.029 --> 01:18:11.800
have a better understanding of our assets so that we can do

01:18:11.800 --> 01:18:14.420
a better job coordinating with the streets department and

01:18:14.420 --> 01:18:18.199
wastewater department on those service replacements.

01:18:18.199 --> 01:18:22.060
So our budget emphasis is really about water system

01:18:22.060 --> 01:18:25.460
reliability and sustainability. We want to be sure that our

01:18:25.460 --> 01:18:28.039
we plan and implement for replacements of our aging

01:18:28.039 --> 01:18:31.149
infrastructure around the city and then certainly plan and

01:18:31.149 --> 01:18:34.470
implement our capital improvement programs to support the

01:18:34.470 --> 01:18:37.199
community growth that we anticipate.

01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:40.000
A couple of process improvements that we're we've

01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:43.380
implemented and some that we're looking at we've converted

01:18:43.380 --> 01:18:46.109
from paper map books to digital systems for water

01:18:46.109 --> 01:18:49.199
distribution which has made the infield work a lot more

01:18:49.199 --> 01:18:50.199
effective.

01:18:50.199 --> 01:18:55.039
We're more effectively integrating and using our geographic

01:18:55.039 --> 01:18:59.340
information systems and our computer maintenance and

01:18:59.340 --> 01:19:04.000
programs for software to basically plan and prioritize our

01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:08.770
water distribution line replacements and coordinate again

01:19:08.770 --> 01:19:11.199
with the streets department.

01:19:11.199 --> 01:19:14.510
It's all about trying to make that as quick as we possibly

01:19:14.510 --> 01:19:17.789
can and as coordinated as possibly as we possibly can so

01:19:17.789 --> 01:19:21.279
that we don't implement any delays throughout that entire

01:19:21.279 --> 01:19:22.199
process.

01:19:22.199 --> 01:19:24.819
So future process improvements are to improve our

01:19:24.819 --> 01:19:27.829
efficiency and cost effectiveness on our water main line

01:19:27.829 --> 01:19:30.890
replacements develop a permanent system for handling and

01:19:30.890 --> 01:19:33.869
disposing of solids as I've said solids have become a bit

01:19:33.869 --> 01:19:36.199
of a challenge at the Louisville plant.

01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:39.010
We are currently using a temporary fix which is a large

01:19:39.010 --> 01:19:42.029
pond system out there that allows the solids to settle and

01:19:42.029 --> 01:19:44.199
then we decant the water off the top.

01:19:44.199 --> 01:19:48.609
We need to move to a permanent solution of dewatering those

01:19:48.609 --> 01:19:52.569
solids and then just continuing to improve our asset

01:19:52.569 --> 01:19:54.199
management program.

01:19:54.199 --> 01:19:56.199
Position summary real quick.

01:19:56.199 --> 01:20:08.500
A couple of things about this. We have added two positions

01:20:08.500 --> 01:20:11.340
basically a deputy director position for water wastewater

01:20:11.340 --> 01:20:14.010
that's currently unfilled and we have consolidated the

01:20:14.010 --> 01:20:16.430
water and wastewater crews under a single water and

01:20:16.430 --> 01:20:19.199
wastewater superintendents so the water and wastewater

01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:22.199
superintendent position is a new position.

01:20:22.199 --> 01:20:26.460
So we've added those two and then we had a halftime admin

01:20:26.460 --> 01:20:30.579
position that we actually removed from the budget so that's

01:20:30.579 --> 01:20:36.420
the difference between the 102 and the 103.5 that you see

01:20:36.420 --> 01:20:39.199
in the in this position summary.

01:20:39.199 --> 01:20:48.029
A couple of other things that we've done kind of a small

01:20:48.029 --> 01:20:56.340
version of what you saw with customer service. We have a

01:20:56.340 --> 01:20:57.000
group called the field service technical group that had

01:20:57.000 --> 01:20:59.199
employees that were co that were funded from both the water

01:20:59.199 --> 01:21:02.199
fun and the wastewater fun.

01:21:02.199 --> 01:21:05.840
The majority of that group resides in the wastewater funds

01:21:05.840 --> 01:21:09.590
and what we've done is we've actually moved those positions

01:21:09.590 --> 01:21:13.090
to be completely under the wastewater fun and then we're

01:21:13.090 --> 01:21:16.670
going to handle the work that those positions do for water

01:21:16.670 --> 01:21:18.199
simply by a transfer.

01:21:18.199 --> 01:21:22.449
We are adding electronic tech to provide maintenance of the

01:21:22.449 --> 01:21:26.069
new equipment that is related to the ozone system at Lake

01:21:26.069 --> 01:21:27.199
Louisville.

01:21:27.199 --> 01:21:31.470
We have a lot of instrumentation there chemical control

01:21:31.470 --> 01:21:35.810
turbidity analyzers chlorine analyzers etc. So that

01:21:35.810 --> 01:21:38.199
position is being added.

01:21:38.199 --> 01:21:43.140
Five year capital improvement plan just to kind of hit the

01:21:43.140 --> 01:21:45.199
highlights on this.

01:21:45.199 --> 01:21:48.430
You will have a lot more detail when you get the full

01:21:48.430 --> 01:21:52.029
budget books on this and one of the things that I wanted to

01:21:52.029 --> 01:21:55.409
to point out on this is kind of how you work through the

01:21:55.409 --> 01:21:58.199
five year CIP plan in the budget book.

01:21:58.199 --> 01:22:02.750
So you'll notice over on the left hand side there are group

01:22:02.750 --> 01:22:07.619
assignment numbers and then those assignments numbers have

01:22:07.619 --> 01:22:12.100
a particular category associated with them. So those

01:22:12.100 --> 01:22:16.319
categories are some in this five year CIP plan. But as you

01:22:16.319 --> 01:22:18.770
go into the individual groups you can actually see detailed

01:22:18.770 --> 01:22:21.199
sheets for each one of those in the full budget.

01:22:21.199 --> 01:22:24.649
So when the full budget group book gets to you you'll be

01:22:24.649 --> 01:22:28.340
able to go through the capital improvement section on a on

01:22:28.340 --> 01:22:31.720
a home business unit basis and actually see each one of

01:22:31.720 --> 01:22:35.199
these five year CIP plans by their group assignment number.

01:22:35.199 --> 01:22:38.270
So it kind of helps you see what we're doing in each one of

01:22:38.270 --> 01:22:42.170
the individual departments. We've got a very aggressive

01:22:42.170 --> 01:22:46.199
plan as you can you can see a lot of moving parts there.

01:22:46.199 --> 01:22:49.449
We've broken it out here in terms of the grand total and

01:22:49.449 --> 01:22:52.489
the amount that we anticipate right now in terms of

01:22:52.489 --> 01:22:56.199
required bond sales for each of the years going forward.

01:22:56.199 --> 01:23:00.069
As Tony mentioned earlier we're going to continue to look

01:23:00.069 --> 01:23:03.970
at our existing funding and of course always try to reduce

01:23:03.970 --> 01:23:06.199
those bond sales when we can.

01:23:06.199 --> 01:23:11.260
I asked Lori to include the group assignment numbers on

01:23:11.260 --> 01:23:16.420
these major CIP projects that I've listed for you. So you

01:23:16.420 --> 01:23:19.199
'll see the numbers over here to the to the side.

01:23:19.199 --> 01:23:23.890
And basically these are some of our major projects that we

01:23:23.890 --> 01:23:29.010
've got coming up with the associated timeline with each one

01:23:29.010 --> 01:23:29.199
.

01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:32.689
Just real quick the North South Phase 3 big project that we

01:23:32.689 --> 01:23:35.989
've got going on about thirty nine hundred linear feet of

01:23:35.989 --> 01:23:39.609
forty two inch transmission main along Bonnie Bray that

01:23:39.609 --> 01:23:44.199
runs all the way from I-35 to scripture.

01:23:44.199 --> 01:23:47.460
The all red system is one that we've had on the books for

01:23:47.460 --> 01:23:51.319
quite for quite a while. It's a twenty four and thirty inch

01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:53.199
water transmission line.

01:23:53.199 --> 01:23:57.470
Design is anticipated to be completed by the middle of June

01:23:57.470 --> 01:24:01.109
and right away acquisition completed by the end of

01:24:01.109 --> 01:24:02.199
September.

01:24:02.199 --> 01:24:05.199
We hope to move into construction by January of next year.

01:24:05.199 --> 01:24:08.609
The solids handling we've we've talked about Ray Roberts

01:24:08.609 --> 01:24:10.199
performance upgrade.

01:24:10.199 --> 01:24:14.079
We've talked about basically getting that system in line in

01:24:14.079 --> 01:24:16.199
anticipation of the expansion.

01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:20.100
Basically the Riney Road Booster pump station is a pump

01:24:20.100 --> 01:24:24.279
station that is needed for capacity to serve the North Dent

01:24:24.279 --> 01:24:25.199
on area.

01:24:25.199 --> 01:24:29.470
The raw transmission line to is part of our line assessment

01:24:29.470 --> 01:24:33.470
for our big transmission assets that are moving from the

01:24:33.470 --> 01:24:38.149
Lake Louisville pump station to the Spencer plant treatment

01:24:38.149 --> 01:24:39.199
facility.

01:24:39.199 --> 01:24:42.829
And so we're in process right now. We've completed the

01:24:42.829 --> 01:24:46.199
first phase of repairs on the 30 inch line.

01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:49.420
This is a dual line system a 30 inch and a twenty seven. We

01:24:49.420 --> 01:24:54.850
will complete the 30 inch next year and then we will start

01:24:54.850 --> 01:24:58.739
moving into the second phase of the project which is to

01:24:58.739 --> 01:25:00.199
look at the twenty seven inch.

01:25:00.199 --> 01:25:02.970
We're timing this because we have to be water those systems

01:25:02.970 --> 01:25:05.689
. We've got to bring it back online during the summertime to

01:25:05.689 --> 01:25:07.199
handle the irrigation needs.

01:25:07.199 --> 01:25:16.479
Disinfection conversion for the raw water are the Ray

01:25:16.479 --> 01:25:20.659
Roberts water treatment plant is basically to take a

01:25:20.659 --> 01:25:25.010
convert a gas based system for your chlorine to a liquid

01:25:25.010 --> 01:25:29.199
base much safer much easier to control.

01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:33.060
And then we've got the design of Ray Roberts coming up get

01:25:33.060 --> 01:25:36.659
the design out of the out of the way first for that nine

01:25:36.659 --> 01:25:40.399
million dollars and then make our plans for when we're

01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:44.189
going to actually implement the construction phase

01:25:44.189 --> 01:25:47.670
condition assessment of the southwest and east side

01:25:47.670 --> 01:25:49.199
transmission lines.

01:25:49.199 --> 01:25:52.039
A lot of our transmission assets are are getting relatively

01:25:52.039 --> 01:25:54.680
old and start with. So we're starting to take a look at

01:25:54.680 --> 01:25:57.430
some of the larger ones and doing condition assessments to

01:25:57.430 --> 01:26:00.199
see what shape they're in and then plan accordingly.

01:26:00.199 --> 01:26:03.539
And then the Louisville Dam safety modifications are

01:26:03.539 --> 01:26:07.170
basically just our payment to the Corps of Engineer for the

01:26:07.170 --> 01:26:10.819
repair work that's going on for Louisville Dam big project

01:26:10.819 --> 01:26:14.319
that's estimated at a 15 million dollar total we're

01:26:14.319 --> 01:26:18.000
programming and three point seven five million on a yearly

01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:20.199
basis for the next four years.

01:26:20.199 --> 01:26:24.060
I have provided a map in your presentation that goes

01:26:24.060 --> 01:26:27.880
through each one of these major projects and got them

01:26:27.880 --> 01:26:32.010
listed by the individual year color coded so you can kind

01:26:32.010 --> 01:26:35.199
of match those up with the with the sheet.

01:26:35.199 --> 01:26:39.960
And basically that's all I've got. So I'd be glad to answer

01:26:39.960 --> 01:26:42.199
any questions.

01:26:42.199 --> 01:26:45.199
I do have one more question.

01:26:45.199 --> 01:26:49.460
I want to make sure if we do the 2 percent rate decrease

01:26:49.460 --> 01:26:53.609
after 2023 we're not going to have to have a huge rate

01:26:53.609 --> 01:26:58.199
increase because of these other projects that are at risk.

01:26:58.199 --> 01:27:02.060
That is definitely something that we're looking at the

01:27:02.060 --> 01:27:06.199
declining GPCD we're watching every year stepping forward.

01:27:06.199 --> 01:27:12.000
And so the exact year in which that project is going to be

01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:16.529
implemented is uncertain. We'll get more certain as we move

01:27:16.529 --> 01:27:18.829
towards it. But yes there will be a large amount of debt

01:27:18.829 --> 01:27:20.199
incurred to do that project.

01:27:20.199 --> 01:27:23.619
It's going to be one of the biggest capital projects that

01:27:23.619 --> 01:27:27.199
we've had since the actual construction of the plant.

01:27:27.199 --> 01:27:35.699
And I guess the strategy is to hit debt or well we're

01:27:35.699 --> 01:27:41.199
hitting revenue revenue funded capital.

01:27:41.199 --> 01:27:45.199
This looks pretty heavy the next three or four years.

01:27:45.199 --> 01:27:47.199
Versus debt.

01:27:47.199 --> 01:27:57.199
And so I guess the strategy is to make room for the debt.

01:27:57.199 --> 01:27:57.199
So there's not a need for it.

01:27:57.199 --> 01:28:03.199
One thing you hate to do is give something.

01:28:03.199 --> 01:28:06.560
Give do a rate decrease and have to come back five years

01:28:06.560 --> 01:28:07.199
later.

01:28:07.199 --> 01:28:11.470
As Susan said that's as long as the strategy is to make

01:28:11.470 --> 01:28:15.899
room for that and looking back at our operating budget I

01:28:15.899 --> 01:28:21.859
mean our debt service ratios seem to be in good shape to 2

01:28:21.859 --> 01:28:24.199
plus over that time.

01:28:24.199 --> 01:28:32.199
So that's seems to be a sound strategy.

01:28:32.199 --> 01:28:34.810
Yeah we're we're definitely paying attention to it and I

01:28:34.810 --> 01:28:37.539
keep going back to the risk mitigation risk and mitigation

01:28:37.539 --> 01:28:40.430
and it's one of those things where this is our best plan

01:28:40.430 --> 01:28:41.199
today.

01:28:41.199 --> 01:28:44.199
And we'll continue watching how our reserves go.

01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:47.930
You know how the revenues are affected and but yeah we're

01:28:47.930 --> 01:28:50.680
trying to create as much room as we possibly can for the

01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:51.199
debt.

01:28:51.199 --> 01:28:54.699
So when we have good years we're investing in revenue

01:28:54.699 --> 01:28:58.479
funded capital but as long as we're staying within those

01:28:58.479 --> 01:29:02.409
bands that the P.B.A. Council sent with regard to reserves

01:29:02.409 --> 01:29:04.199
we feel pretty good right now.

01:29:04.199 --> 01:29:08.199
But there's still more analysis that needs to take place.

01:29:08.199 --> 01:29:12.460
I think like I said with solid waste this isn't our money

01:29:12.460 --> 01:29:15.779
this is the customer's money so we never want to be

01:29:15.779 --> 01:29:19.869
charging more than we have to or keep more of their money

01:29:19.869 --> 01:29:22.199
in reserves than we have to.

01:29:22.199 --> 01:29:24.600
I just want to make sure we're not going to have to do 10

01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:26.199
percent and 24 or something.

01:29:26.199 --> 01:29:30.020
But I think it's sound as best as it can be for what we

01:29:30.020 --> 01:29:31.199
know today.

01:29:31.199 --> 01:29:39.850
I did notice on group 36 replacement of lines that ends in

01:29:39.850 --> 01:29:43.460
2020 so there's no we don't we really don't think there's

01:29:43.460 --> 01:29:46.199
any lines that need to be replaced after that.

01:29:46.199 --> 01:29:50.470
Well yeah there will be but that that that we're loading up

01:29:50.470 --> 01:29:54.489
heavy on the front end on that purpose to try to level that

01:29:54.489 --> 01:29:55.199
out.

01:29:55.199 --> 01:29:58.289
Is that part of the assessment the condition assessment

01:29:58.289 --> 01:29:59.199
will tell us.

01:29:59.199 --> 01:30:02.810
Yes on the on the transmission side we'll be able to have a

01:30:02.810 --> 01:30:06.340
better handle on right now we've got a we've got a I think

01:30:06.340 --> 01:30:10.380
a very healthy amount in for the 27 inch transmission line

01:30:10.380 --> 01:30:14.199
the other transmission line assets.

01:30:14.199 --> 01:30:18.069
I'm not as certain on but we'll have a much better sense of

01:30:18.069 --> 01:30:22.199
where we're at after that condition assessments done.

01:30:22.199 --> 01:30:23.199
Okay.

01:30:23.199 --> 01:30:28.199
Other questions.

01:30:28.199 --> 01:30:32.199
Thanks. Thanks.

01:30:32.199 --> 01:30:33.199
Okay.

01:30:33.199 --> 01:30:37.199
That concludes our work session.

01:30:37.199 --> 01:30:40.199
We have.

01:30:40.199 --> 01:30:43.199
We do have a closed.

01:30:43.199 --> 01:30:47.199
We do need to go into a closed meeting.

01:30:47.199 --> 01:30:50.199
Because we have an action item.

01:30:50.199 --> 01:30:53.199
In open session when we come back so.

01:30:53.199 --> 01:30:59.779
If this time would ask that we can be into a closed meeting

01:30:59.779 --> 01:31:01.199
it's 10.

01:31:01.199 --> 01:31:09.199
Okay we're back into our open open meeting at 1028 AM.

01:31:09.199 --> 01:31:12.199
May the 7th.

01:31:12.199 --> 01:31:15.199
2018.

01:31:15.199 --> 01:31:18.199
First item we have under.

01:31:18.199 --> 01:31:23.199
Individual consideration is to the draft minutes.

01:31:23.199 --> 01:31:27.199
The public utility board meeting of April 23rd.

01:31:27.199 --> 01:31:32.199
2018 or there any questions on these comments.

01:31:32.199 --> 01:31:34.199
Corrections.

01:31:34.199 --> 01:31:35.199
Yes, I.

01:31:35.199 --> 01:31:39.199
There was the one vote that.

01:31:39.199 --> 01:31:41.199
Where there was a.

01:31:41.199 --> 01:31:43.199
Where I was the dissenting vote.

01:31:43.199 --> 01:31:46.199
And I'm trying to bring this up right now.

01:31:46.199 --> 01:31:48.199
I'm trying to bring this up right now.

01:31:48.199 --> 01:31:52.199
And.

01:31:52.199 --> 01:31:55.199
The reason for my dissent wasn't given.

01:31:55.199 --> 01:31:57.199
The dissent wasn't explained.

01:31:57.199 --> 01:31:58.199
And I think that,

01:31:58.199 --> 01:32:00.000
and there may have been some other times where this was the

01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:00.199
case and

01:32:00.199 --> 01:32:01.199
I didn't.

01:32:01.199 --> 01:32:03.199
Catch it. But I think in general.

01:32:03.199 --> 01:32:09.199
When there's a dissenting opinion.

01:32:09.199 --> 01:32:12.199
If the reason is stated by the dissenter that that,

01:32:12.199 --> 01:32:14.199
that reason should be in the minutes.

01:32:14.199 --> 01:32:17.199
And I think that's something that I would prefer to see.

01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:21.199
Just something I prefer to see. So however.

01:32:21.199 --> 01:32:25.199
However you want that to be worded.

01:32:25.199 --> 01:32:28.199
I think.

01:32:28.199 --> 01:32:31.199
I mean, in the item.

01:32:31.199 --> 01:32:36.199
Perhaps under the comments.

01:32:36.199 --> 01:32:38.199
When it's during the discussion of the item.

01:32:38.199 --> 01:32:39.199
Those are recorded. So.

01:32:39.199 --> 01:32:44.199
I think that's something that I would prefer to see.

01:32:44.199 --> 01:32:46.479
And I did, I did state it. So I stated my reasons in the

01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:47.199
recording.

01:32:47.199 --> 01:32:50.199
This was about the.

01:32:50.199 --> 01:32:52.199
This was the, with the redacted contract.

01:32:52.199 --> 01:32:53.199
See the number.

01:32:53.199 --> 01:32:54.199
That would be high to see.

01:32:54.199 --> 01:32:59.199
Yeah.

01:32:59.199 --> 01:33:00.199
Yes.

01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:02.199
So did you just want to send some there?

01:33:02.199 --> 01:33:03.199
Yeah, just.

01:33:03.199 --> 01:33:05.199
Sentence in there for the reason.

01:33:05.199 --> 01:33:08.199
For the reason.

01:33:08.199 --> 01:33:09.199
That's the reason.

01:33:09.199 --> 01:33:10.199
That's the reason.

01:33:10.199 --> 01:33:11.199
That's the reason.

01:33:11.199 --> 01:33:12.199
Yes. Exactly. Exactly.

01:33:12.199 --> 01:33:13.199
Okay.

01:33:13.199 --> 01:33:14.199
Yeah.

01:33:14.199 --> 01:33:16.199
And that was stated on the record, but it.

01:33:16.199 --> 01:33:18.199
And we can put it in the discussion.

01:33:18.199 --> 01:33:19.199
Oh, exactly. Yeah.

01:33:19.199 --> 01:33:20.199
I mean, obviously.

01:33:20.199 --> 01:33:21.199
Okay.

01:33:21.199 --> 01:33:22.199
Yes.

01:33:22.199 --> 01:33:23.199
All right.

01:33:23.199 --> 01:33:25.199
Yes. Yeah.

01:33:25.199 --> 01:33:27.199
I voted, I voted against it because of all the,

01:33:27.199 --> 01:33:28.199
because of all the redactions.

01:33:28.199 --> 01:33:29.199
So yeah, just to.

01:33:29.199 --> 01:33:30.199
And I'm.

01:33:30.199 --> 01:33:31.199
Yeah.

01:33:31.199 --> 01:33:34.199
Okay.

01:33:34.199 --> 01:33:37.199
So with that correction on item C.

01:33:37.199 --> 01:33:42.199
Corrections or that addition to item C.

01:33:42.199 --> 01:33:45.689
If not, is there a motion then to approve the minutes with

01:33:45.689 --> 01:33:48.199
that correction.

01:33:48.199 --> 01:33:50.199
I move.

01:33:50.199 --> 01:33:51.199
Have a motion.

01:33:51.199 --> 01:33:53.199
And a second.

01:33:53.199 --> 01:33:54.199
Any discussion?

01:33:54.199 --> 01:33:55.199
All in favor say aye.

01:33:55.199 --> 01:33:56.199
Aye.

01:33:56.199 --> 01:33:57.199
Any opposed?

01:33:57.199 --> 01:33:58.199
Okay.

01:33:58.199 --> 01:34:00.199
Minutes are approved.

01:34:00.199 --> 01:34:03.970
Next for individual consideration, we have item B, which is

01:34:03.970 --> 01:34:06.199
to consider recommending adoption of an ordinance.

01:34:06.199 --> 01:34:09.199
The city council of the city of Denton.

01:34:09.199 --> 01:34:14.460
Providing for authorizing and approving the execution of by

01:34:14.460 --> 01:34:17.869
the mayor of a power purchase agreement between the city of

01:34:17.869 --> 01:34:21.199
Denton and blue bell solar to LLC.

01:34:21.199 --> 01:34:24.579
Proving and authorizing the acceptance and approval by the

01:34:24.579 --> 01:34:27.199
city manager or his respective designee.

01:34:27.199 --> 01:34:30.689
Of guarantees and letters of credit issued by blue bell

01:34:30.689 --> 01:34:34.199
solar to and next year energy capital holdings Inc.

01:34:34.199 --> 01:34:37.199
Further securing.

01:34:37.199 --> 01:34:43.199
The obligations of blue bell solar to to the city.

01:34:43.199 --> 01:34:46.199
So.

01:34:46.199 --> 01:34:49.199
I believe George.

01:34:49.199 --> 01:34:52.199
Is going to lead us to this.

01:34:52.199 --> 01:34:55.199
Good morning, George Morrill, general manager of DME.

01:34:55.199 --> 01:34:58.770
It's a pleasure to be before you this morning to talk about

01:34:58.770 --> 01:35:02.189
our recommendation for a new renewable power purchase

01:35:02.189 --> 01:35:03.199
agreement.

01:35:03.199 --> 01:35:07.199
The project's called the blue bell solar to project.

01:35:07.199 --> 01:35:09.199
And a little bit of history and background.

01:35:09.199 --> 01:35:12.699
The purchasing department here at the city, the city issued

01:35:12.699 --> 01:35:15.850
an RFP for solar and wind energy back on back in June of

01:35:15.850 --> 01:35:18.199
last year with bids due October 4.

01:35:18.199 --> 01:35:22.199
And we were blessed with a lot of proposals.

01:35:22.199 --> 01:35:26.090
You can see here in the presentation we had 41 separate

01:35:26.090 --> 01:35:28.199
entities submit proposals.

01:35:28.199 --> 01:35:32.060
89 different projects and when you looked at different

01:35:32.060 --> 01:35:35.890
timing and sizes and locations, we came up with 846

01:35:35.890 --> 01:35:38.199
separate little unique offers.

01:35:38.199 --> 01:35:43.199
And we start dates ranging from mid 19 through 2021.

01:35:43.199 --> 01:35:46.510
And so RFP was very clear what what we would look at was

01:35:46.510 --> 01:35:50.189
four components for the evaluation price, of course,

01:35:50.189 --> 01:35:53.449
location, which talks about how easy it is to get it back

01:35:53.449 --> 01:35:54.199
to Denton.

01:35:54.199 --> 01:35:57.409
Hourly production profile, which indicates how much energy

01:35:57.409 --> 01:36:00.250
we're actually going to get from that plant and the past

01:36:00.250 --> 01:36:01.199
performance.

01:36:01.199 --> 01:36:06.199
And so I was also fortunate to be part of a big group of

01:36:06.199 --> 01:36:10.199
with experts looking at this evaluation.

01:36:10.199 --> 01:36:14.069
And we even had some outside council assist us with a fresh

01:36:14.069 --> 01:36:15.199
pair of eyes.

01:36:15.199 --> 01:36:18.630
And the recommendation was the one I'm bringing forward to

01:36:18.630 --> 01:36:22.020
you today is the blue bell solar to project recommended by

01:36:22.020 --> 01:36:23.199
next era proposed by next era.

01:36:23.199 --> 01:36:27.199
Energy and a little bit of background about that project.

01:36:27.199 --> 01:36:31.460
It's located in Sterling County, about 200 miles west of

01:36:31.460 --> 01:36:37.010
the city, using solar photovoltaic technology with his with

01:36:37.010 --> 01:36:39.199
crystalline solar cells.

01:36:39.199 --> 01:36:42.979
The size is 100 megawatts. So pretty substantial project

01:36:42.979 --> 01:36:46.069
for us and a 15 year term in service date by the end of

01:36:46.069 --> 01:36:51.350
2020, which matches up well with city's policy to move

01:36:51.350 --> 01:36:52.199
toward 100 percent renewable energy.

01:36:52.199 --> 01:36:58.199
And that's a very competitive and fixed price for the term.

01:36:58.199 --> 01:37:02.460
And which is standard these days in the in the proposals, I

01:37:02.460 --> 01:37:06.199
think pretty much all our proposals were were that way.

01:37:06.199 --> 01:37:09.050
And that's that's good for the good for the utilities, good

01:37:09.050 --> 01:37:10.199
for our customers.

01:37:10.199 --> 01:37:13.199
So I did mention there's a note on the bottom of the slide.

01:37:13.199 --> 01:37:16.199
There's already a contract we have for blue bell solar one.

01:37:16.199 --> 01:37:18.890
And perhaps that was why we were able to get such an

01:37:18.890 --> 01:37:22.109
attractive offer is there's this would be layered on top of

01:37:22.109 --> 01:37:24.199
that and using the same facility.

01:37:24.199 --> 01:37:27.020
There's some economies of scale benefit for having the two

01:37:27.020 --> 01:37:28.199
projects together.

01:37:28.199 --> 01:37:32.199
And that one is scheduled to begin right now by November.

01:37:32.199 --> 01:37:34.199
This year is the current timetable.

01:37:34.199 --> 01:37:37.909
So we'll have our first 30 megawatts solar on the books

01:37:37.909 --> 01:37:39.199
later this year.

01:37:39.199 --> 01:37:43.470
So bringing forward that arrangement to you, there's a

01:37:43.470 --> 01:37:48.199
staff report and a what I call a lightly redacted contract.

01:37:48.199 --> 01:37:52.449
And why I want to compliment next era for working with us,

01:37:52.449 --> 01:37:56.119
you know, city's policy to be as open and transparent as

01:37:56.119 --> 01:37:57.199
possible.

01:37:57.199 --> 01:38:00.460
I asked them to, you know, let's work on this in that

01:38:00.460 --> 01:38:01.199
regard.

01:38:01.199 --> 01:38:03.199
And they were very helpful and supportive.

01:38:03.199 --> 01:38:10.050
So I did want to compliment them. So we're requesting the P

01:38:10.050 --> 01:38:13.010
.B. consider recommending adoption of this new renewable

01:38:13.010 --> 01:38:15.199
arrangement for 15 years of solar power.

01:38:15.199 --> 01:38:19.199
And I'm here to answer any questions.

01:38:19.199 --> 01:38:21.199
Questions. Yes. Yes.

01:38:21.199 --> 01:38:23.199
I have a couple questions.

01:38:23.199 --> 01:38:26.550
I wanted to ask if 100 percent of the power that will come

01:38:26.550 --> 01:38:29.199
out of this contract will be provided by city.

01:38:29.199 --> 01:38:33.510
And that there aren't any recs included or anything like

01:38:33.510 --> 01:38:34.199
that.

01:38:34.199 --> 01:38:36.199
No, you're totally correct.

01:38:36.199 --> 01:38:40.199
This will be one of the sun solar contracts.

01:38:40.199 --> 01:38:42.699
So when the sun is out and shining, we'll get solar energy

01:38:42.699 --> 01:38:44.199
when it's not in the evenings.

01:38:44.199 --> 01:38:46.909
Night times we'll get less or we won't get any depending on

01:38:46.909 --> 01:38:48.199
the solar insulation.

01:38:48.199 --> 01:38:52.090
So this one is not managed or in any way similar to other

01:38:52.090 --> 01:38:56.130
arrangements that other people have had in which we've had

01:38:56.130 --> 01:38:57.199
to do this.

01:38:57.199 --> 01:39:02.199
So that's great.

01:39:02.199 --> 01:39:04.199
I'd also like to ask.

01:39:04.199 --> 01:39:08.859
So we're we're we're purchasing this power from Bluebell

01:39:08.859 --> 01:39:12.199
who's setting up the solar facility.

01:39:12.199 --> 01:39:17.199
Have we evaluated like we did with the energy center?

01:39:17.199 --> 01:39:22.199
Have we evaluated building our own solar operation?

01:39:22.199 --> 01:39:26.199
I mean, yes and no.

01:39:26.199 --> 01:39:30.060
My experience over the years looking at these kinds of

01:39:30.060 --> 01:39:35.470
projects requires a tremendous amount of of expertise and

01:39:35.470 --> 01:39:40.319
specific to this type of development and program, you know,

01:39:40.319 --> 01:39:44.199
identifying a site, obtaining and managing that site,

01:39:44.199 --> 01:39:46.199
managing a project.

01:39:46.199 --> 01:39:47.899
You know, there's lots of different components that go in

01:39:47.899 --> 01:39:48.199
there.

01:39:48.199 --> 01:39:50.909
For us, it would be a relatively modest economy of scale,

01:39:50.909 --> 01:39:53.810
whereas a next era, for instance, they've got well, they're

01:39:53.810 --> 01:39:56.640
probably the country's largest wind power producer and they

01:39:56.640 --> 01:39:59.199
're moving higher up the chain in the solar side.

01:39:59.199 --> 01:40:02.199
They're, you know, turning their head toward solar.

01:40:02.199 --> 01:40:04.199
So they've got a lot of background economies.

01:40:04.199 --> 01:40:07.340
They can mobilize bigger, you know, workforces that have

01:40:07.340 --> 01:40:08.199
expertise.

01:40:08.199 --> 01:40:12.069
So it would be difficult, extremely difficult for us to do

01:40:12.069 --> 01:40:14.199
anything even close to this.

01:40:14.199 --> 01:40:18.470
We'll mention if we were to do say a smaller solar project

01:40:18.470 --> 01:40:21.689
locally, which has pros and cons, and there's some pros to

01:40:21.689 --> 01:40:22.199
that.

01:40:22.199 --> 01:40:25.350
You'd be looking probably just rule of thumb two to three

01:40:25.350 --> 01:40:28.500
times as expensive as is what we think you might be able to

01:40:28.500 --> 01:40:30.199
buy from the open market.

01:40:30.199 --> 01:40:31.199
Okay.

01:40:31.199 --> 01:40:32.199
On a utility scale.

01:40:32.199 --> 01:40:33.199
Sure. Thank you.

01:40:33.199 --> 01:40:37.199
Yes.

01:40:37.199 --> 01:40:41.199
Other questions?

01:40:41.199 --> 01:40:44.199
Sorry, sorry.

01:40:44.199 --> 01:40:51.250
I'll just say that I'm really pleased that the company

01:40:51.250 --> 01:40:55.920
agreed to essentially only redact the price and to make

01:40:55.920 --> 01:41:01.199
everything else, or just about everything else transparent.

01:41:01.199 --> 01:41:05.930
So, you know, we can show the ratepayers, we can tell them

01:41:05.930 --> 01:41:10.289
that this is really the best deal, and even if we didn't

01:41:10.289 --> 01:41:17.470
have 100% renewable goal, this is still really the cheapest

01:41:17.470 --> 01:41:22.199
option on the market, and we got a really good deal on it.

01:41:22.199 --> 01:41:25.199
And they can look at all the other terms of the contract.

01:41:25.199 --> 01:41:29.069
So anyway, I thank you for working with them on that, and I

01:41:29.069 --> 01:41:32.659
'm very pleased, and it makes me think very well of this

01:41:32.659 --> 01:41:35.199
company that we're working with.

01:41:35.199 --> 01:41:39.199
I think that's a good business partner.

01:41:39.199 --> 01:41:42.819
So I just want to mention that for the public, and also to

01:41:42.819 --> 01:41:45.199
thank staff for working on that.

01:41:45.199 --> 01:41:47.199
All right. Thank you.

01:41:47.199 --> 01:41:49.199
Okay.

01:41:49.199 --> 01:41:51.199
Anything else? Motion?

01:41:51.199 --> 01:41:54.199
I'd like to motion that we recommend this ordinance.

01:41:54.199 --> 01:41:56.199
Okay, we have a motion.

01:41:56.199 --> 01:41:58.199
Second, and a second.

01:41:58.199 --> 01:42:00.199
Any discussion.

01:42:00.199 --> 01:42:02.199
All in favor say aye.

01:42:02.199 --> 01:42:05.199
Aye. Any opposed.

01:42:05.199 --> 01:42:09.199
Very good. Thank you, George. Thank you very much.

01:42:09.199 --> 01:42:11.199
Okay.

01:42:11.199 --> 01:42:14.199
Next we have the ACM update.

01:42:14.199 --> 01:42:17.100
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, members of the board. In your

01:42:17.100 --> 01:42:19.729
packet, there are a couple of staff items here for your

01:42:19.729 --> 01:42:22.079
review or questions if you have one of those is the

01:42:22.079 --> 01:42:25.199
employee ethics policy that which was adopted by council.

01:42:25.199 --> 01:42:28.350
Middle of last month, Cassie Ogden here is present to

01:42:28.350 --> 01:42:31.699
answer any specific questions you may have. But in the

01:42:31.699 --> 01:42:34.470
packet you have a summary of the policy and the actual

01:42:34.470 --> 01:42:37.600
policy document itself that's been distributed to the city

01:42:37.600 --> 01:42:38.199
staff.

01:42:38.199 --> 01:42:41.989
The second item is a follow up on a water leak adjustment

01:42:41.989 --> 01:42:46.140
memo, and Tiffany Thompson to hear to answer any questions

01:42:46.140 --> 01:42:48.199
you may have about that item.

01:42:48.199 --> 01:42:50.739
We have questions I know we had a lot of discussion last

01:42:50.739 --> 01:42:51.199
time.

01:42:51.199 --> 01:42:55.060
Well, I'd like to say that I act in an ethical manner

01:42:55.060 --> 01:42:59.079
always, I wonder if any of the aspects of this policy

01:42:59.079 --> 01:43:01.199
impact the pubs behavior.

01:43:01.199 --> 01:43:04.699
The, the policy that council adopted last week will apply

01:43:04.699 --> 01:43:08.039
to the PB members, as well as I think all of our boards and

01:43:08.039 --> 01:43:12.869
commissions. So, staff is in the process of developing a

01:43:12.869 --> 01:43:17.470
training program with our outside council, and I would

01:43:17.470 --> 01:43:21.560
anticipate in probably by June, we'll be able to be in to

01:43:21.560 --> 01:43:25.460
provide training to all the various commissions that they

01:43:25.460 --> 01:43:27.199
're impacted by that new policy.

01:43:27.199 --> 01:43:30.430
So, this is strictly the employee ethics policy which is a

01:43:30.430 --> 01:43:33.539
little bit different from the councils but yeah we'll be

01:43:33.539 --> 01:43:37.010
back to you in a month or 45 to 60 days at the latest to

01:43:37.010 --> 01:43:38.199
provide training.

01:43:38.199 --> 01:43:40.199
Okay, thank you.

01:43:40.199 --> 01:43:42.199
Good.

01:43:42.199 --> 01:43:48.920
I just wanted to thank Tiffany and staff for coming up with

01:43:48.920 --> 01:43:55.510
the water adjustment policy and putting all that, that

01:43:55.510 --> 01:43:58.039
together. I'm coming up with that document, and putting all

01:43:58.039 --> 01:43:59.199
that together that that was really informative and helpful.

01:43:59.199 --> 01:44:03.619
I was wondering is that somewhere on the website for the

01:44:03.619 --> 01:44:08.510
for the, I mean, obviously, they can see it in the agenda,

01:44:08.510 --> 01:44:12.720
but I mean, you know if you know people go to our water

01:44:12.720 --> 01:44:17.699
department, and, and if not, is that would that be possible

01:44:17.699 --> 01:44:18.199
.

01:44:18.199 --> 01:44:23.479
I wonder what category, you know, but to put that if says

01:44:23.479 --> 01:44:28.430
that somebody would know that there's a recourse to if

01:44:28.430 --> 01:44:30.539
there's a leak. I will confirm that that it's on the

01:44:30.539 --> 01:44:31.119
website I want to say that it is but I like to go back and

01:44:31.119 --> 01:44:34.479
look where it's at because we've had some relocation of

01:44:34.479 --> 01:44:36.789
items and so I want to make sure that I know where it's

01:44:36.789 --> 01:44:39.199
been located but if it isn't, I'll make sure it's on there

01:44:39.199 --> 01:44:40.199
this week.

01:44:40.199 --> 01:44:55.369
Thank you. I know that in my experience I've actually had

01:44:55.369 --> 01:44:55.609
to use this before, and the customer service representative

01:44:55.609 --> 01:44:55.819
is the one who told me about it I mean instantly, they were

01:44:55.819 --> 01:44:56.199
like, well, you can do this and we can adjust this bill so.

01:44:56.199 --> 01:44:59.159
Yeah, it's usually initiated with the customer calling in,

01:44:59.159 --> 01:45:02.069
because they are aware that they've experienced this excess

01:45:02.069 --> 01:45:04.729
usage and then we go through what was it for because there

01:45:04.729 --> 01:45:07.329
was a little bit of education piece with that but again I

01:45:07.329 --> 01:45:10.279
will confirm that it's on our website that information,

01:45:10.279 --> 01:45:11.199
thank you for the feedback.

01:45:11.199 --> 01:45:13.199
Thanks.

01:45:13.199 --> 01:45:15.199
Thank you.

01:45:15.199 --> 01:45:18.569
And beyond that, there's really nothing further to report

01:45:18.569 --> 01:45:21.750
just as a reminder to the board that the next meeting will

01:45:21.750 --> 01:45:25.039
be on the 21st of May, because the following Monday is

01:45:25.039 --> 01:45:27.590
Memorial Day. So, just as a note of reference and a

01:45:27.590 --> 01:45:28.199
reminder.

01:45:28.199 --> 01:45:30.199
Thank you.

01:45:30.199 --> 01:45:34.199
Okay.

01:45:34.199 --> 01:45:38.199
All right, let's see.

01:45:38.199 --> 01:45:46.279
And we'll go ahead and do concluding items now, which

01:45:46.279 --> 01:45:49.140
basically is to respond to inquiries from the public

01:45:49.140 --> 01:45:52.090
utilities board or the public with specific factual

01:45:52.090 --> 01:45:55.359
information or rest station policy or accept a proposal to

01:45:55.359 --> 01:45:57.199
place the matter on the agenda for an upcoming

01:45:57.199 --> 01:45:59.199
meeting.

01:45:59.199 --> 01:46:03.199
We have anything to add to future agenda.

01:46:03.199 --> 01:46:09.199
Yes, I'd like to repeat a request that I had made.

01:46:09.199 --> 01:46:14.270
Pretty soon after I first got on the public utility board,

01:46:14.270 --> 01:46:19.430
which, you know, now that we have a new general manager for

01:46:19.430 --> 01:46:22.199
DME and new head of finance.

01:46:22.199 --> 01:46:27.840
I think it would be a good time to revisit this, this, this

01:46:27.840 --> 01:46:33.060
question and explore this possibility and that is the

01:46:33.060 --> 01:46:38.470
question of why DME rates aren't structured like water

01:46:38.470 --> 01:46:44.810
rates, whereby the for our water commercial users are

01:46:44.810 --> 01:46:47.199
charged more and residential

01:46:47.199 --> 01:46:52.180
users are charged less and obviously commercial users are

01:46:52.180 --> 01:46:57.010
the big users and any residential user whether you live in

01:46:57.010 --> 01:47:02.229
a mansion or an apartment is smaller user than, than the,

01:47:02.229 --> 01:47:05.199
than the commercial account.

01:47:05.199 --> 01:47:09.899
So, you know, that seems to be working really well with

01:47:09.899 --> 01:47:15.100
with water. Obviously this water and electricity on the one

01:47:15.100 --> 01:47:18.439
hand they're apples and oranges. But you know they're both

01:47:18.439 --> 01:47:19.029
the service provided by utility service provided by by the

01:47:19.029 --> 01:47:19.199
city.

01:47:19.199 --> 01:47:23.649
And it encourages conservation and keeps residential rates

01:47:23.649 --> 01:47:27.720
low at the same time and I was really interested to hear in

01:47:27.720 --> 01:47:31.710
our, you know, just discussion and update on on water

01:47:31.710 --> 01:47:36.199
budgeting that there haven't been commercial complaints

01:47:36.199 --> 01:47:42.199
about the higher, you know, rates, rates for water.

01:47:42.199 --> 01:47:45.369
That is to say you know commercial customers haven't been

01:47:45.369 --> 01:47:48.479
complaining and lobbying to get you know why don't we get

01:47:48.479 --> 01:47:51.199
the, the same rates that that residents do.

01:47:51.199 --> 01:47:55.199
We may have some now, they're watching. So, yeah.

01:47:55.199 --> 01:48:09.699
But, I mean, but, and I think they should know, you know,

01:48:09.699 --> 01:48:13.420
it's there. So anyway, that's something that I mean I think

01:48:13.420 --> 01:48:13.689
it would be helpful to at least explore that possibility

01:48:13.689 --> 01:48:13.960
now that we've got, you know, some, some new brains on

01:48:13.960 --> 01:48:17.199
board, and for us to hear what the pros and cons might be.

01:48:17.199 --> 01:48:21.590
But I just think it's always good to, you know, question

01:48:21.590 --> 01:48:25.890
the, this, this, this status quo on an issue like this

01:48:25.890 --> 01:48:29.829
especially if there's a possibility of of lowering

01:48:29.829 --> 01:48:32.199
residential rates even more.

01:48:32.199 --> 01:48:37.199
How many agenda items was that.

01:48:37.199 --> 01:48:41.619
I'm kidding. I just said, No, I know, I know going through

01:48:41.619 --> 01:48:45.909
the budget, you know, we'll look at it and I think probably

01:48:45.909 --> 01:48:49.760
, I don't know if in the budget or maybe it's a separate

01:48:49.760 --> 01:48:53.779
agenda item where we look at cost of cost of service, and

01:48:53.779 --> 01:48:58.199
what the rates are based on, it's cost of service and

01:48:58.199 --> 01:49:02.739
obviously, you know, water is, there's an incentive and

01:49:02.739 --> 01:49:06.199
water for conservative for conservation.

01:49:06.199 --> 01:49:17.189
And it's, you know, the cost of service for a higher volume

01:49:17.189 --> 01:49:19.199
is a lot more.

01:49:19.199 --> 01:49:24.619
And it's not necessarily so on on electricity. I mean, I'm

01:49:24.619 --> 01:49:29.859
just comparing apples oranges but I think that perhaps you

01:49:29.859 --> 01:49:34.710
know maybe we look at looking at cost of service on both

01:49:34.710 --> 01:49:36.199
utilities.

01:49:36.199 --> 01:49:50.199
But at least we'll have a discussion about it. We'll be

01:49:50.199 --> 01:49:50.199
ready.

01:49:50.199 --> 01:50:08.199
Okay, any, any other comments, agenda items.

01:50:08.199 --> 01:50:11.659
We will not be coming back into open session after that

01:50:11.659 --> 01:50:15.520
will be adjourning out of the closed session since there'll

01:50:15.520 --> 01:50:20.199
be no other action items.
