1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,440 May the 7th 2018 we'll call the May 7 2018 public utility 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:07,080 board meeting to 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:12,390 order and right away we have a work session so we have a 4 00:00:12,390 --> 00:00:13,720 few items to go 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,059 over we'll start with item A which is to receive a report 6 00:00:18,059 --> 00:00:19,440 from staff regarding 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,839 the 2017 reliability indices for the electric distribution 8 00:00:23,839 --> 00:00:24,800 system and DME's 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,359 actions taken to improve reliability. 10 00:00:30,039 --> 00:00:33,380 George Morrow DME general manager it's my honor to come 11 00:00:33,380 --> 00:00:35,280 before you this morning 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,140 to introduce this reliability information about the 13 00:00:39,140 --> 00:00:40,039 electric system 14 00:00:40,039 --> 00:00:43,710 and also introduce Jerry Fielder who's our distribution 15 00:00:43,710 --> 00:00:45,280 system manager who has 16 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,789 sliced and diced and parsed all this reliability 17 00:00:47,789 --> 00:00:49,280 information to kind of give 18 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,140 you and us an idea of how reliable are we reliability being 19 00:00:53,140 --> 00:00:54,359 extremely important 20 00:00:54,359 --> 00:00:57,789 these days we're all used to having electricity and when it 21 00:00:57,789 --> 00:00:58,719 's out you know 22 00:00:58,719 --> 00:01:02,500 how critical that is and I think we what I've seen my time 23 00:01:02,500 --> 00:01:04,040 in Denton that we have 24 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,819 an outstanding reliability here in the city we have very 25 00:01:07,819 --> 00:01:09,099 few outages and though 26 00:01:09,099 --> 00:01:12,090 when we do have outages we respond extremely quickly it's 27 00:01:12,090 --> 00:01:12,920 to me it's been 28 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:20,920 amazing our reliability here is 99.99% so so with that I'll 29 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,120 introduce Jerry and 30 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,799 let him take it away. 31 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,549 A little shorter good morning. I appreciate the time this 32 00:01:32,549 --> 00:01:35,760 morning to kind of visit 33 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,969 with you guys about the reliability of the distribution 34 00:01:38,969 --> 00:01:40,159 system before I get 35 00:01:40,159 --> 00:01:43,359 into it I want to introduce a couple of other members of 36 00:01:43,359 --> 00:01:44,719 the reliability team 37 00:01:44,719 --> 00:01:47,489 and that's Brad Watts who is the superintendent of 38 00:01:47,489 --> 00:01:48,319 operation and 39 00:01:48,319 --> 00:01:52,640 maintenance and Rowdy Patterson who is the superintendent 40 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,159 of construction and 41 00:01:54,159 --> 00:01:57,909 missing today is Sam Bridges who is the superintendent's of 42 00:01:57,909 --> 00:02:00,959 the substation group. 43 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,560 All right we're gonna start off with the test questions 44 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,800 begin with just kind of 45 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,939 let you know what we look at these are indices that are 46 00:02:15,939 --> 00:02:18,360 established by IEEE 1366 47 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,370 which is a standard for electric reliability this was 48 00:02:21,370 --> 00:02:22,319 established by the 49 00:02:22,319 --> 00:02:26,590 Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers there are 50 00:02:26,590 --> 00:02:28,000 several different 51 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,780 factors that we look at these are the common ones we look 52 00:02:31,780 --> 00:02:33,599 at SATI. SATI is the 53 00:02:33,599 --> 00:02:37,870 system average interruption duration and that's the total 54 00:02:37,870 --> 00:02:38,759 duration of an 55 00:02:38,759 --> 00:02:42,360 interruption for the average customer during a given time 56 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:43,400 period and it's 57 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,259 measured in minutes. KD is the customer average inter 58 00:02:47,259 --> 00:02:48,840 ruption duration index and 59 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,259 that's the average amount of time taken to restore service 60 00:02:52,259 --> 00:02:54,039 and again that is in 61 00:02:54,039 --> 00:02:57,560 minutes. SAFE is the system average interruption 62 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,169 frequency index and that's the average number of times that 63 00:03:01,169 --> 00:03:02,360 a system customer 64 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,719 experiences an outage during a time period being studied 65 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:06,719 and that's just a 66 00:03:06,719 --> 00:03:11,110 number. A SAY which is the average system availability 67 00:03:11,110 --> 00:03:12,439 index that's the total 68 00:03:12,439 --> 00:03:15,439 necessary number of customer hours that service was 69 00:03:15,439 --> 00:03:16,919 available during the time 70 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,189 period being studied to the total customer hours demanded 71 00:03:21,189 --> 00:03:21,960 and is 72 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,590 calculated using the formula that they've got right there 73 00:03:24,590 --> 00:03:25,120 this one is 74 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:30,750 actually given to us in hours. TMED is a method that if you 75 00:03:30,750 --> 00:03:32,360 are in area that has 76 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,639 large and extended interruptions TMED lets you figure out 77 00:03:36,639 --> 00:03:37,960 what that number is 78 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,680 and those you can actually take out of your calculations DM 79 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,360 E has no TMED 80 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,979 we don't take any of them out and then performance this is 81 00:03:46,979 --> 00:03:48,599 not IEEE 1366 82 00:03:48,599 --> 00:03:51,719 this is Jerry Fielder basically what I do is take the SATE 83 00:03:51,719 --> 00:03:53,199 times the SAFE so I 84 00:03:53,199 --> 00:03:56,000 take the duration times the frequency multiply them 85 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,319 together the higher the 86 00:03:57,319 --> 00:04:03,500 number the worst performer that asset is. Okay to go over 87 00:04:03,500 --> 00:04:05,159 the baseline for 2017 88 00:04:05,159 --> 00:04:09,430 the time period that was studied was January 1st 2017 to 89 00:04:09,430 --> 00:04:11,199 December 31st 2017 90 00:04:11,199 --> 00:04:15,969 during that time frame we had 950 events the indices were 91 00:04:15,969 --> 00:04:18,519 calculated on IEEE 1366 92 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:22,790 standards for reliability industries and classified based 93 00:04:22,790 --> 00:04:24,680 on IEEE 1782 94 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,560 which is another specification that lets us know how the I 95 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,560 EEE wants these 96 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,759 things to kind of be classified we go above and beyond on 97 00:04:32,759 --> 00:04:34,040 classification you 98 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,029 guys should have a cheat sheet in front of you of all the 99 00:04:36,029 --> 00:04:36,920 classifications that 100 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,300 we actually use reliability indices we calculate on the 101 00:04:41,300 --> 00:04:42,639 system level the 102 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:45,680 substation level and on the feeder service levels and 103 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,000 during that time 104 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,920 frame we've identified the top five cause and equipment 105 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,240 codes that were on 106 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:58,290 these three different service levels. So for us last year 107 00:04:58,290 --> 00:05:00,000 as it was in 2016 108 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:07,319 squirrels were our nemesis of the 213 animal small animal 109 00:05:07,319 --> 00:05:08,759 reported incidences 110 00:05:08,759 --> 00:05:15,120 199 were contributed to squirrels. So just kind of give you 111 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:15,959 an idea we're not 112 00:05:15,959 --> 00:05:19,199 unusual with this thing the APPA had an article squirrels 113 00:05:19,199 --> 00:05:20,439 other wildlife are the 114 00:05:20,439 --> 00:05:23,930 most common cause of allergies the survey finds and just 115 00:05:23,930 --> 00:05:25,040 the quote from this 116 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,560 thing is saying wildlife near power equipment is the most 117 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:28,439 common cause of 118 00:05:28,439 --> 00:05:31,040 allergies at public power utilities and the failure of 119 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,519 overhead equipment is the 120 00:05:32,519 --> 00:05:36,019 second most common cause according to the APPA's latest 121 00:05:36,019 --> 00:05:37,240 survey you know 122 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,899 basically what they're saying is since a utility pole is 123 00:05:39,899 --> 00:05:40,759 similar to a tree 124 00:05:40,759 --> 00:05:43,670 squirrels frequently climb the poles the heat emitted by 125 00:05:43,670 --> 00:05:45,000 electric lines can 126 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,779 attract the squirrel because they like to get that warmth 127 00:05:47,779 --> 00:05:48,720 from the electric 128 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:53,709 line so that's why squirrels love us so much. Now once we 129 00:05:53,709 --> 00:05:54,560 did the study we 130 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,810 identify the top five cause codes we identify the top five 131 00:05:57,810 --> 00:05:58,879 equipment codes 132 00:05:58,879 --> 00:06:03,720 for 2017 the top five cause codes or number one was animals 133 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:04,819 the small animals 134 00:06:04,819 --> 00:06:07,279 and birds this is your squirrels planned outages 135 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,680 maintenance and we'll talk a 136 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,639 little bit more about this why that's so high this time 137 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:13,480 maintenance or decay age 138 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,740 of material that's basically materials just aging out there 139 00:06:17,740 --> 00:06:18,879 weather associated 140 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:21,199 with lightning lightning associated with weather and 141 00:06:21,199 --> 00:06:22,720 equipment or design 142 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,470 installation it's a material or equipment failure the 143 00:06:25,470 --> 00:06:26,879 equipment that we 144 00:06:26,879 --> 00:06:30,259 identified was no damaged equipment and that kind of goes 145 00:06:30,259 --> 00:06:31,319 in with the maintenance 146 00:06:31,319 --> 00:06:35,180 part of it overhead line conductor and devices the line 147 00:06:35,180 --> 00:06:36,839 transformers the fuses 148 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,569 associated with the line transformers secondary and 149 00:06:39,569 --> 00:06:40,519 services and line 150 00:06:40,519 --> 00:06:43,930 transformers becoming bad we're going to focus mainly on 151 00:06:43,930 --> 00:06:45,399 the equipment I mean the 152 00:06:45,399 --> 00:06:47,180 cause codes during this thing because that's what 153 00:06:47,180 --> 00:06:48,279 everything is really kind of 154 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,779 tuned to it is eliminating the causes but the equipment 155 00:06:51,779 --> 00:06:52,680 codes help us 156 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,910 understand if there's a pattern going on out there that we 157 00:06:55,910 --> 00:06:57,199 have equipment that's 158 00:06:57,199 --> 00:06:59,790 failing and it's in the same area or it's the same 159 00:06:59,790 --> 00:07:01,120 manufacturer helps us 160 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,550 understand what that's going on right there so what this 161 00:07:04,550 --> 00:07:06,000 next graph is showing 162 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,500 you is on the top of it is the combination of all the 163 00:07:09,500 --> 00:07:10,360 events the 164 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,339 combination of all the outage time for those 950 events and 165 00:07:13,339 --> 00:07:14,000 the number of 166 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:19,649 customers affected as you can see right there there's when 167 00:07:19,649 --> 00:07:21,279 you take the top five 168 00:07:21,279 --> 00:07:25,680 out on the top part of it which for the number of events 65 169 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,480 4 of the 950 events 170 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,040 were top five events those are separated out into the 171 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,600 maintenance material 172 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,459 equipment failure decay age of equipment lighting and small 173 00:07:36,459 --> 00:07:38,079 animal or bird the 174 00:07:38,079 --> 00:07:41,959 same thing can be seen at the amount of cottage time that's 175 00:07:41,959 --> 00:07:42,759 contributed 176 00:07:42,759 --> 00:07:45,889 contributed to the top five as well as the customers 177 00:07:45,889 --> 00:07:47,600 affected that's attributed 178 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:52,519 to the top five this is just another way of looking at it 179 00:07:52,519 --> 00:07:54,000 you can see on a 180 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:59,589 monthly basis what the top five spread was based upon how 181 00:07:59,589 --> 00:08:00,240 much of a 182 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,420 contributor they were now what I want to point out here in 183 00:08:03,420 --> 00:08:04,600 October November in 184 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,250 December you're going to see the maintenance part of it go 185 00:08:07,250 --> 00:08:07,800 up this is 186 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,189 when we did a lot of feeder sweeps in a in an area that we 187 00:08:10,189 --> 00:08:11,040 're going to talk 188 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,300 about these feeder sweeps were pretty intense they went out 189 00:08:15,300 --> 00:08:15,959 there and took a 190 00:08:15,959 --> 00:08:18,360 lot of custody and to do this they had to take the 191 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,000 customers out of power for a 192 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,069 short time so that's why when you look at the amount of 193 00:08:23,069 --> 00:08:24,120 time for maintenance 194 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,319 that's why it's gone up is because they have to do that 195 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:27,360 this is not something 196 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,250 that we really believe is going to be a continual issue for 197 00:08:30,250 --> 00:08:31,279 us we just wanted to 198 00:08:31,279 --> 00:08:34,620 get a lot of things done within that first three months to 199 00:08:34,620 --> 00:08:35,840 try to eliminate 200 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:40,950 as many as possible of the issues or errors that we have in 201 00:08:40,950 --> 00:08:42,440 a specific area 202 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,690 I've got on the side over here a lot of the items that were 203 00:08:46,690 --> 00:08:47,799 put on during the 204 00:08:47,799 --> 00:08:51,460 sweep if you guys are interested in looking at those or 205 00:08:51,460 --> 00:08:52,759 asking more about 206 00:08:52,759 --> 00:08:57,360 those thank you very much we can certainly go about them 207 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,000 and talk to you 208 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,259 a little bit more about what each of these items are and 209 00:09:01,259 --> 00:09:01,799 what their 210 00:09:01,799 --> 00:09:10,200 contribution is to helping us get more reliable power okay 211 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:11,360 so comparison start 212 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,990 now system growth from the distribution standpoint we only 213 00:09:15,990 --> 00:09:17,240 grew about 1.25 214 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:22,399 percent during the 16 17 time frame again our underground 215 00:09:22,399 --> 00:09:23,840 miles grew which 216 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,070 led us to be over 57.91 percent of an underground 217 00:09:27,070 --> 00:09:29,000 distribution system the 218 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,759 reliability indices as you can see our safety or frequency 219 00:09:32,759 --> 00:09:34,399 went down however 220 00:09:34,399 --> 00:09:38,039 you look at Sadie the durations and Katie customer dur 221 00:09:38,039 --> 00:09:39,080 ations they went up 222 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,190 there's a reason for this and the reason is this is the 223 00:09:42,190 --> 00:09:43,639 first year that we've had 224 00:09:43,639 --> 00:09:48,240 full implementation of the AMI system into the OMS outage 225 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,080 management system so 226 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,690 what that means is in the past the time starts on an outage 227 00:09:53,690 --> 00:09:54,519 whenever you first 228 00:09:54,519 --> 00:09:57,789 know about it so if people are at home and they don't know 229 00:09:57,789 --> 00:09:58,559 that their power is 230 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,500 out and they get home and they call us then that's when the 231 00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:02,480 clock starts for 232 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,580 the amount of time that we're attributing this thing with 233 00:10:05,580 --> 00:10:06,000 the AMI 234 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,220 system we know within seconds that a person's out and so 235 00:10:09,220 --> 00:10:10,100 the AMI system 236 00:10:10,100 --> 00:10:12,789 reports it in and so that's when our clock starts so that 237 00:10:12,789 --> 00:10:13,200 means your 238 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,889 durations are going to be just a little bit longer because 239 00:10:15,889 --> 00:10:17,639 of that so in other 240 00:10:17,639 --> 00:10:22,639 words we basically established a new baseline for this year 241 00:10:22,639 --> 00:10:26,399 so we did a heat 242 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:29,580 map analysis of the system using the top five cause codes 243 00:10:29,580 --> 00:10:30,960 and as you can see the 244 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:37,299 north east area is the area that has the most has the it 245 00:10:37,299 --> 00:10:38,840 seems like it has the 246 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,090 highest number of cause codes it has the highest number of 247 00:10:42,090 --> 00:10:43,440 heat equipment codes 248 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:48,279 events happening this area we know is an area this is area 249 00:10:48,279 --> 00:10:49,360 that we concentrated a 250 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:54,639 lot of our maintenance activities on this is where those 251 00:10:54,639 --> 00:10:56,639 proactive going out 252 00:10:56,639 --> 00:10:59,370 there change putting in the animal protection putting in 253 00:10:59,370 --> 00:11:00,120 the automatic 254 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,519 fuses etc etc occurred on that thing to reduce them down we 255 00:11:04,519 --> 00:11:05,159 haven't had a full 256 00:11:05,159 --> 00:11:10,000 year of data yet for that but we pretty much believe that 257 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,240 this has been a very 258 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,720 positive because the number of phone calls coming in from 259 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:14,360 that area has 260 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,159 reduced drastically so we think we've done some good things 261 00:11:17,159 --> 00:11:17,919 out there this 262 00:11:17,919 --> 00:11:19,919 will be one of the things that we look at at the end of the 263 00:11:19,919 --> 00:11:20,600 year once I have a 264 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:26,399 full year of data to say did we actually affect that as 265 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:29,720 with most utilities we 266 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,629 like to compare ourselves to everybody so we won't go over 267 00:11:32,629 --> 00:11:33,600 every one of these 268 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,889 unless you want me to but just didn't municipal electric 269 00:11:36,889 --> 00:11:38,159 from a public power 270 00:11:38,159 --> 00:11:41,940 power standpoint in national and state of Texas level we 271 00:11:41,940 --> 00:11:43,919 are better there are 272 00:11:43,919 --> 00:11:46,620 some utilities out there that have got some numbers that 273 00:11:46,620 --> 00:11:47,679 are better than ours 274 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,129 there's some that have got some numbers that are worse than 275 00:11:50,129 --> 00:11:52,360 ours our sister TNPA 276 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,159 cities Garland Bryan and Greenville they don't they don't 277 00:11:56,159 --> 00:11:57,360 claim to go to I triple 278 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,110 e 1366 glass so I can't tell you that they're being lower 279 00:12:01,110 --> 00:12:02,360 than us by so much 280 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,620 is an actual apples to apples type comparison because they 281 00:12:06,620 --> 00:12:07,080 don't go by I 282 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:14,970 triple e 1366 okay so we look as I said we do a performance 283 00:12:14,970 --> 00:12:16,240 calculation we look 284 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,120 at the substations Denton North last year was the worst 285 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,679 performing substation 286 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:28,759 its availability was 99.95 percent with the highest rank of 287 00:12:28,759 --> 00:12:29,480 performance last 288 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,110 year it was seven Kings Road which last year was our worst 289 00:12:33,110 --> 00:12:34,240 performing substation 290 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,129 did get some improvement it's now the 15th and we take 291 00:12:37,129 --> 00:12:38,039 these are all the 292 00:12:38,039 --> 00:12:40,960 substations that's on our system so we know from the worst 293 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,279 performing substation 294 00:12:42,279 --> 00:12:45,710 down to the least worst performing substation and we focus 295 00:12:45,710 --> 00:12:46,240 a lot of 296 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,240 attention on what the worst performers are to see if there 297 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,320 's any thing common 298 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:55,269 in that area that we need to attack or pursue same thing 299 00:12:55,269 --> 00:12:56,960 happens with feeders 300 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:04,240 so Denton North 212 is our worst performing feeder for 2017 301 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,159 followed by 302 00:13:05,159 --> 00:13:11,289 McKinney 221 Kings Road 222 Locust 221 and Cooper Creek 222 303 00:13:11,289 --> 00:13:12,000 kind of goes down 304 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,639 the top five or ten worst performing feeders is a standard 305 00:13:15,639 --> 00:13:16,720 that the Public 306 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,980 Utility Commission of Texas asks people to look at of 307 00:13:19,980 --> 00:13:21,720 course we're not come 308 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,149 we're not dependent on the PUC of Texas to tell us what we 309 00:13:25,149 --> 00:13:26,240 need to do but we 310 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,009 still make those comparisons for ourselves to see how we're 311 00:13:29,009 --> 00:13:30,080 doing and use 312 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:35,980 their standards a feeder a feeder you have substation you 313 00:13:35,980 --> 00:13:36,799 have a system level 314 00:13:36,799 --> 00:13:39,970 which is everything that we have out there you have a subst 315 00:13:39,970 --> 00:13:40,879 ation which is the 316 00:13:40,879 --> 00:13:43,779 big assets that you see that are placed around the city 317 00:13:43,779 --> 00:13:44,759 that have the big 318 00:13:44,759 --> 00:13:47,460 transformers in them and everything else and those subst 319 00:13:47,460 --> 00:13:48,639 ations feed feeders 320 00:13:48,639 --> 00:13:51,840 feeders are they the assets that go out and serve the 321 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,399 customer so they're the 322 00:13:53,399 --> 00:13:56,500 big wire the big underground wire that goes out and serves 323 00:13:56,500 --> 00:13:57,620 customers is what a 324 00:13:57,620 --> 00:14:01,509 feeder is so that's the end game for us is to look at that 325 00:14:01,509 --> 00:14:02,559 point and where is 326 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:07,080 this feeder located is it up in that northwest 327 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,350 several several of them are up there in that area is Denton 328 00:14:12,350 --> 00:14:13,279 North as well as 329 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:16,100 Kings Row and if you look at that Kings Row has two feeders 330 00:14:16,100 --> 00:14:16,860 that are on the 331 00:14:16,860 --> 00:14:20,539 worst performer and Denton North has two feeders on the 332 00:14:20,539 --> 00:14:22,399 worst performing so yes 333 00:14:22,399 --> 00:14:25,470 those four feeders are up and usually serving that one area 334 00:14:25,470 --> 00:14:26,519 that you see as 335 00:14:26,519 --> 00:14:31,679 worst performing so we do some other looking at this thing 336 00:14:31,679 --> 00:14:32,480 another heat map 337 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,389 that we prepare is using the ten on the ten worst 338 00:14:36,389 --> 00:14:38,360 performing feeders we we 339 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,559 identify the cost codes the top five cost codes and we plot 340 00:14:41,559 --> 00:14:42,480 those out there 341 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,360 on the system as you can see that same area that's 342 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,440 northeast is still pretty 343 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,480 much red but there are other areas within the city that 344 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:52,559 there is some you 345 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:56,820 know events that we need to look at and see what the cause 346 00:14:56,820 --> 00:14:58,080 is and then equipment 347 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,779 codes as I said those are all focusing pretty much in the 348 00:15:00,779 --> 00:15:01,759 same area we don't 349 00:15:01,759 --> 00:15:04,379 pay a whole lot of attention for study parts of the 350 00:15:04,379 --> 00:15:05,960 equipment codes that's more 351 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,279 or less for the engineer geek of us to try to figure out so 352 00:15:08,279 --> 00:15:09,080 you know is there 353 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,539 equipment that is failing constantly and if it is is there 354 00:15:12,539 --> 00:15:13,799 a commonality with 355 00:15:13,799 --> 00:15:19,480 that equipment do we need to go replace it all etc etc okay 356 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,340 so 2017 findings the 357 00:15:21,340 --> 00:15:24,049 top five cause and equipment codes were identified as 358 00:15:24,049 --> 00:15:26,480 factors in over 60% of all 359 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,269 the recorded events at the every service level from the 360 00:15:29,269 --> 00:15:30,679 system the substation the 361 00:15:30,679 --> 00:15:34,559 feeder level North Lake substation is the worst performing 362 00:15:34,559 --> 00:15:35,360 substation and 363 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,730 King Joe substation has moved from being the worst 364 00:15:37,730 --> 00:15:39,159 performance but it still has 365 00:15:39,159 --> 00:15:43,070 two of the worst performing feeders in it so what are we 366 00:15:43,070 --> 00:15:44,360 going to do about this 367 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,240 what is DME going to do about this for animal protection 368 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,440 there you're going to 369 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,429 see on this slide these are the actions that were taken if 370 00:15:51,429 --> 00:15:52,320 they're standardized 371 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,919 it means they're now in our construction standards or 372 00:15:54,919 --> 00:15:56,799 design standards if it's 373 00:15:56,799 --> 00:16:01,059 says continuous that means that we do this normally anyway 374 00:16:01,059 --> 00:16:02,200 and then in progress 375 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,490 is something other that is kind of a study thing for us so 376 00:16:05,490 --> 00:16:06,200 for animal 377 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,759 protection we are using rely guard products that's a lot 378 00:16:10,759 --> 00:16:11,399 what you see out 379 00:16:11,399 --> 00:16:14,090 here these are the new products that we're using and Brad 380 00:16:14,090 --> 00:16:15,879 will be able to talk a little bit more about the 381 00:16:15,879 --> 00:16:20,139 advantages of the rely guard products and then later on in 382 00:16:20,139 --> 00:16:22,360 the presentation we 383 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,990 now install animal protection on all of our designs 384 00:16:24,990 --> 00:16:26,279 everything goes out whenever 385 00:16:26,279 --> 00:16:29,100 an engineer or technician does a design he puts animal 386 00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:30,360 protection into the 387 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,299 estimate on that part of it we have used duct plugs instead 388 00:16:34,299 --> 00:16:35,440 of air seal on 389 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:41,919 polarizers that plugs which are these items air seal is 390 00:16:41,919 --> 00:16:43,000 basically foam that 391 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,320 they would put down on the top of the polarizer and 392 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:46,639 squirrels didn't have any 393 00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:48,980 issue with chewing down in the bottom of it and then 394 00:16:48,980 --> 00:16:50,159 chewing on the cable and 395 00:16:50,159 --> 00:16:56,340 causing outages they can't chew through metal so we are now 396 00:16:56,340 --> 00:16:59,879 using these in our polarizers 397 00:16:59,879 --> 00:17:02,470 our tree trimming program has been very successful we 398 00:17:02,470 --> 00:17:03,639 continued the tree trimming 399 00:17:03,639 --> 00:17:06,650 program and if we find areas where hot spots are we go 400 00:17:06,650 --> 00:17:08,039 ahead and trim that out 401 00:17:08,039 --> 00:17:11,539 if areas have and we need taller pose we'll certainly put 402 00:17:11,539 --> 00:17:12,680 in taller pose in 403 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,190 those areas and we've even tried different things such as 404 00:17:16,190 --> 00:17:17,000 Fox urine to 405 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,869 try to eliminate squirrels I wasn't very popular with Brad 406 00:17:20,869 --> 00:17:21,960 's crews at the time 407 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,819 when they had to go put it out there it really wasn't that 408 00:17:24,819 --> 00:17:26,880 effective but we tried 409 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:32,000 it from a maintenance standpoint we've replaced damaged and 410 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:32,880 missing lightning 411 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,150 arrestors as well as the missing grounds and down guys this 412 00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:37,000 was done pretty 413 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,240 heavily during the feeder sweeps that were performed we are 414 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,039 going to prepare 415 00:17:41,039 --> 00:17:45,299 an RFP for infrared testing and strategic placement of 416 00:17:45,299 --> 00:17:46,359 fault indicators 417 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,559 this is something other for both operations as well as 418 00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:49,200 engineering to 419 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,980 kind of help focus in and narrow in on what causes and what 420 00:17:52,980 --> 00:17:54,799 the area of what 421 00:17:54,799 --> 00:17:59,049 the area that the fault has occurred is where that area is 422 00:17:59,049 --> 00:18:00,000 so it fault current 423 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,660 indicator basically has a light or some sort of signal that 424 00:18:02,660 --> 00:18:03,599 lets the crews know 425 00:18:03,599 --> 00:18:07,200 that down from it it saw the fault and so they know okay 426 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,119 from this point down 427 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:14,200 we got a look okay decay age of material we are doing 428 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,680 another RFP for a system 429 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,900 wide pole inspection and inventory from the engineering 430 00:18:18,900 --> 00:18:20,240 standpoint we're mostly 431 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,950 wanting to do the pole inspection the pole inspection is 432 00:18:22,950 --> 00:18:24,039 they hammer the pole 433 00:18:24,039 --> 00:18:26,809 the test the pole for rot and make sure that the pole is 434 00:18:26,809 --> 00:18:28,000 good if the pole is not 435 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,259 good they send it back to us and we replace the pole the 436 00:18:32,259 --> 00:18:33,519 sweeps are to 437 00:18:33,519 --> 00:18:35,950 replace if they see any deteriorated insulators or other 438 00:18:35,950 --> 00:18:36,680 equipment that 439 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,549 replace those and we are also going to do an RFP for 440 00:18:39,549 --> 00:18:40,799 infrared testing to 441 00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:45,680 identify hot connections on the distribution system 442 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,559 lightning you know 443 00:18:47,559 --> 00:18:50,000 the sweeps are looking into that replacing damage or 444 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:50,960 missing lightning 445 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,359 arresters and replace damage or missing ground rods and 446 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:54,279 guys that's the best 447 00:18:54,279 --> 00:18:59,859 thing we can do against lightning and material and 448 00:18:59,859 --> 00:19:02,920 equipment failures we use 449 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,630 contingency analysis to minimize the number of customers 450 00:19:05,630 --> 00:19:06,480 effective and now 451 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,250 it's time what this means is we have several ways that we 452 00:19:10,250 --> 00:19:11,599 we try to design it 453 00:19:11,599 --> 00:19:14,309 into the system several ways to serve different areas of 454 00:19:14,309 --> 00:19:15,279 the city so that if 455 00:19:15,279 --> 00:19:20,759 we have a failure of a substation or not something subst 456 00:19:20,759 --> 00:19:23,599 ation or feeder or 457 00:19:23,599 --> 00:19:26,630 substation bank we have other ways to get that power back 458 00:19:26,630 --> 00:19:27,799 up fairly quickly so 459 00:19:27,799 --> 00:19:30,390 that we can then spend the time restoring the power and 460 00:19:30,390 --> 00:19:31,000 still have 461 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,549 customers up and when we're working in areas that have 462 00:19:35,549 --> 00:19:37,880 dated facilities that we 463 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,740 go ahead and try to be proactive and replace those 464 00:19:41,740 --> 00:19:44,359 facilities when we can okay 465 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,890 I've got a quick video here that's going to kind of talk a 466 00:19:46,890 --> 00:19:47,920 little bit about the 467 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:52,650 advantages of the new rely guard products that we got and 468 00:19:52,650 --> 00:19:54,079 Brad is going to 469 00:19:54,079 --> 00:19:58,559 kind of talk to you a little bit about that 470 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:18,910 when we started looking at this I've been here for 27 years 471 00:20:18,910 --> 00:20:20,039 to try and figure 472 00:20:20,039 --> 00:20:22,670 out you know what why the squirrels are getting in there 473 00:20:22,670 --> 00:20:23,880 what they're doing and 474 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,990 the main thing that a squirrel does that gives us the 475 00:20:26,990 --> 00:20:29,160 problem besides you know on 476 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:34,039 the transformer for warmth they will they will climb up and 477 00:20:34,039 --> 00:20:36,079 they will they 478 00:20:36,079 --> 00:20:40,339 collect all kinds of nuts berries food and they store it 479 00:20:40,339 --> 00:20:41,799 and so what they do is 480 00:20:41,799 --> 00:20:45,059 they climb up on the transformer and they try and stuff 481 00:20:45,059 --> 00:20:46,200 these berries and 482 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,460 nuts and stuff up inside these squirrel protection and then 483 00:20:50,460 --> 00:20:51,319 once they get full 484 00:20:51,319 --> 00:20:54,410 they start tracking over and then that's when you're going 485 00:20:54,410 --> 00:20:55,640 to have the outage or 486 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,890 they're going to get their hands in there and they're going 487 00:20:57,890 --> 00:20:58,559 to make contact 488 00:20:58,559 --> 00:21:00,920 well they're standing on a transformer and the transformers 489 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,279 grounded and so 490 00:21:02,279 --> 00:21:05,460 they're going to make contact with the wire and then that's 491 00:21:05,460 --> 00:21:06,440 when you know the 492 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,599 explosion that you hear the fuses blow and that's what's 493 00:21:09,599 --> 00:21:12,200 causing it and I've 494 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,869 got one one example I want to show you this is another one 495 00:21:16,869 --> 00:21:17,200 I can help you pass around if you want to 496 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,319 but that's one of the old squirrel protection and after a 497 00:21:20,319 --> 00:21:24,000 while we found out that they start tracking over and they 498 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,759 start burning a path and once they start tracking then the 499 00:21:27,759 --> 00:21:31,319 squirrel protection itself kind of becomes a conductor and 500 00:21:31,319 --> 00:21:32,200 then when the squirrel just 501 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:37,150 touches it that's when we have a fault and I learned of a 502 00:21:37,150 --> 00:21:38,799 new product and it was 503 00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:42,750 actually designed by a lineman so he had the experience as 504 00:21:42,750 --> 00:21:45,079 far as you know knowing what the squirrels are doing 505 00:21:45,079 --> 00:21:48,240 knowing how they're doing it and so he got with another 506 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,750 company and they designed squirrel protection called Reli-G 507 00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:56,200 uard and they also impregnate these with a product called 508 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,200 Reli-Tanium and it's non-flammable. 509 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:08,279 It has a flammability rating of VO and I'm sorry and they 510 00:22:08,279 --> 00:22:11,599 it's a new product it's supposed to be a 15 year product 511 00:22:11,599 --> 00:22:14,200 and so far we've had really good good luck with them and 512 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,200 one thing that the squirrels can't do is they can't get 513 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,720 them off once you lock them on it has a keeper key on it 514 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,400 and once we set it I mean it's on there the squirrel can't 515 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,619 raise it up and also the inside of it has a fitting where 516 00:22:26,619 --> 00:22:28,990 it will grab the skirt of the transformer they cannot pick 517 00:22:28,990 --> 00:22:29,200 it up and they can't get it off. 518 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,660 They cannot pick it up and they can't move it they can't 519 00:22:31,660 --> 00:22:34,910 twist it it's pretty tough to put on but once it's on it's 520 00:22:34,910 --> 00:22:43,200 on and we're having really good luck with it. 521 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,569 So the video is playing now and Brad will kind of talk 522 00:22:46,569 --> 00:22:49,380 about what what they're doing now is they're just going to 523 00:22:49,380 --> 00:22:52,200 test the circuit this is a controlled circuit that we built 524 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,269 and we can do arching demos we do it a lot for schools and 525 00:22:56,269 --> 00:22:57,200 you know different events. 526 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:11,230 And now we've installed the old squirrel guard which also 527 00:23:11,230 --> 00:23:15,230 is passing around and we're using a sausage to simulate you 528 00:23:15,230 --> 00:23:19,809 know something getting up there touching it and you'll see 529 00:23:19,809 --> 00:23:23,349 how it will arc up and this is supposed to be our 530 00:23:23,349 --> 00:23:25,200 protection this was the old style protection. 531 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:44,200 But over a period of time it's not protecting anything. 532 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:49,200 But the hot dog is cooked. 533 00:23:49,200 --> 00:24:15,200 Now we're going to install this. 534 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,500 And now the guys are going to go ahead and you'll see them 535 00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:20,200 they'll install that new rely guard product on the jumper. 536 00:24:45,200 --> 00:25:12,099 And now they're going to simulate the same thing again a 537 00:25:12,099 --> 00:25:14,200 squirrel climbing up there and touching the. 538 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:32,200 Touching the cover up. 539 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,289 And actually rub it all up and down the wire and everything 540 00:25:35,289 --> 00:25:38,259 and it's it's really a good cover up and only till he gets 541 00:25:38,259 --> 00:25:41,220 up to the bear conductor does it draw an arc but we're not 542 00:25:41,220 --> 00:25:44,250 going to get a squirrel up there because if they do happen 543 00:25:44,250 --> 00:25:47,200 to get up there and they will climb up and get on the line. 544 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,160 It's kind of like a bird on the wire. I mean they're the 545 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,200 same potential as the wire itself. 546 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:58,250 But this seems I mean this is really creating a good you 547 00:25:58,250 --> 00:26:02,200 know protection for our system. 548 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,250 And then here Michael's going to go ahead and just show you 549 00:26:04,250 --> 00:26:08,380 what a tree limb does. Once it's been on the line you'll 550 00:26:08,380 --> 00:26:14,059 see it I mean they'll smoke but eventually they're going to 551 00:26:14,059 --> 00:26:17,200 burn a path. 552 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:38,200 That's about the questions about the product. 553 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,200 When did we start using this product. 554 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:47,400 We actually started about almost a year ago. We were just 555 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,410 but we didn't just jump right into it because we wanted to 556 00:26:48,410 --> 00:26:49,200 make sure it was going to work for us. 557 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,970 So we were trying it on different things and we had one of 558 00:26:51,970 --> 00:26:54,869 their engineers come visit with us and they actually went 559 00:26:54,869 --> 00:26:57,519 out and we showed them some air switches we're having 560 00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:00,309 trouble and actually designed a guard to go over the air 561 00:27:00,309 --> 00:27:02,200 switch steel bracket. 562 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,319 And we did we did some tests and stuff we've done we've 563 00:27:05,319 --> 00:27:08,750 done things like this. Now we're using it full force and 564 00:27:08,750 --> 00:27:11,200 the feeder sweeps. That's what these are doing. 565 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,130 We actually have to go into the backyards and or on the 566 00:27:14,130 --> 00:27:17,380 streets wherever the transformers located at rest or the 567 00:27:17,380 --> 00:27:20,200 underground termination points on the poles. 568 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,140 And we have to kill it out and then we install this we 569 00:27:23,140 --> 00:27:26,779 install the ill guard over the wire takes about about 15 to 570 00:27:26,779 --> 00:27:30,200 20 minutes sometimes a little sooner than that. 571 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,200 But we're going to get the benefit from it. 572 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,380 So we'll be able to monitor this in the next few years. Yes 573 00:27:37,380 --> 00:27:39,200 . See how many we should get good data. 574 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:48,200 Didn't try. 575 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,200 It's used all over our entire system. 576 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,490 So I mean anytime we come on line they was something it has 577 00:27:54,490 --> 00:27:57,630 a live guard cover up the old guard and we're we have you 578 00:27:57,630 --> 00:28:01,009 know so many features in the town that we're just trying to 579 00:28:01,009 --> 00:28:04,119 start with the ones that are impacted the most and then we 580 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,200 're just branching out in the service trucks. 581 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,490 They're doing that constantly when they get on calls when 582 00:28:08,490 --> 00:28:11,599 they see one. I mean they're they're trying to install 583 00:28:11,599 --> 00:28:14,200 these as fast as they can as many as they can. 584 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:21,200 The North has been yes ma'am. 585 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,470 And we were at a there's three fingers in the north where 586 00:28:25,470 --> 00:28:26,200 100% on that. 587 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:31,200 And it's the guys worked really hard. 588 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,759 Is the safety device that we cook the hot dog with is that 589 00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:36,200 still available. 590 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,200 Do people still buy and use those. 591 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,200 These right here. 592 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,200 They're still available. We don't use them. 593 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:49,400 So in that situation that we just saw that products 594 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,200 installed correctly but not working. 595 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,160 It's installed correctly but over a period of time that it 596 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,150 's not dielectrically sound for it and then the ozone I mean 597 00:28:58,150 --> 00:29:01,019 the sunlight just eats it up and it starts tracking and it 598 00:29:01,019 --> 00:29:04,200 'll start creating little little lines of track lines. 599 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,170 And then once it gets to a certain point then it'll 600 00:29:07,170 --> 00:29:10,609 actually can mail and just cover the bushing. We found them 601 00:29:10,609 --> 00:29:12,200 where they just melt and go down on the bushing. 602 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,250 I mean it's just not a good product. They thought it was 603 00:29:15,250 --> 00:29:16,200 but it wasn't. 604 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,200 But it's still available on the market. 605 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,200 Yes sir. 606 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,200 What's the price point between the two. 607 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:27,200 That I don't have the light guard is very expensive. 608 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:40,200 I can get that. 609 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,200 Okay for the light guard products. 610 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:49,250 They go anywhere from two hundred and forty seven dollars 611 00:29:49,250 --> 00:29:55,200 to it looks like three hundred and six dollars each. 612 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,220 The pole wrap which we've got one over here you haven't 613 00:29:58,220 --> 00:30:01,200 seen it is is about eight dollars and sixty cents. 614 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,700 I mean is one hundred and sixty seven dollars and fifty 615 00:30:04,700 --> 00:30:05,200 cents. 616 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,200 And that price is for a box of them. It's not individual. 617 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,200 I think there's twenty five in a box. 618 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,230 And I would say these other ones are probably going to be 619 00:30:13,230 --> 00:30:14,200 comparable in price. 620 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,029 The one the old ones because they all kind of come in the 621 00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:18,200 same price point. 622 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,700 So that's about what you're looking at from a price 623 00:30:22,700 --> 00:30:24,200 standpoint. 624 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,200 So the cost. 625 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,200 So the cost is roughly comparable. 626 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:34,920 But and and it would end it saves us cost in the time and 627 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,200 spend in repairs. 628 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,200 Yes ma'am. 629 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,200 Yeah. 630 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,200 Thank you. 631 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,200 OK. 632 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,200 Very good. 633 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,200 Any other questions. 634 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:49,200 Somebody want to see the video again. 635 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,200 Thank you guys. 636 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,200 Thank you. 637 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,200 And Brad showed you one of the products. 638 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,009 Again if you want to see him I can actually leave this if 639 00:30:56,009 --> 00:30:57,200 you want to see it afterwards. 640 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,750 But there are different types of products for different 641 00:30:59,750 --> 00:31:00,200 uses. 642 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,200 The one he showed you was for transformer bushing. 643 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,700 They have them for an insulator cover as well as other type 644 00:31:06,700 --> 00:31:10,200 of things that we use them all that we have out there. 645 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,200 OK. 646 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,349 So in closing this I want to kind of tell you a little bit 647 00:31:14,349 --> 00:31:16,200 about some good news for us. 648 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,609 APP R P 3 is a destination that that signifies leadership 649 00:31:20,609 --> 00:31:24,450 in reliability safety workforce development system 650 00:31:24,450 --> 00:31:25,200 improvement. 651 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,990 For the past few years we have been at the gold level but I 652 00:31:28,990 --> 00:31:32,269 'm very happy to tell you that this year at the APP 653 00:31:32,269 --> 00:31:37,200 conference DME has been moved up to the platinum level for 654 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,200 reliability. 655 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,200 Congratulations. 656 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:44,200 Very happy with this. 657 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,200 So that's the end of the formal presentation. 658 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,200 Any questions. 659 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,200 Yes sir. 660 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:57,200 You mentioned that we were at four nines of uptime right. 661 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,039 If all you were doing were scheduled maintenance let's just 662 00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:04,549 say we live in a world where we don't have unexpected out 663 00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:05,200 ages. 664 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:12,200 What would you say your uptime would be percentage wise. 665 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,460 What we're at four times if we spent all the time on it it 666 00:32:16,460 --> 00:32:18,200 may go to five nines. 667 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,200 We're actually at point nine nine eight. 668 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,200 So we're pretty darn close on the fifth digit. 669 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,470 But you know it's kind of a typical thing to go to four 670 00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:29,200 digits. 671 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,700 So that's why we stop at four digits and the bulk of the 672 00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:34,000 changes that you're going to make are really the 673 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,200 installation of this new equipment. 674 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,750 But basically we're still just going to approach it the way 675 00:32:38,750 --> 00:32:40,200 been approaching it before. 676 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,730 Yes sir unless we can think of anything different in the 677 00:32:42,730 --> 00:32:43,200 area. 678 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,660 I mean again the feeder sweeps have done a really good job 679 00:32:46,660 --> 00:32:50,000 of eliminating a lot of the issues that we've had in the 680 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,200 northeastern quadrant and we're watching that. 681 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,130 This is a standard installation product that we put 682 00:32:57,130 --> 00:32:59,200 everywhere now within the city. 683 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,089 So you know we should be able to see some improvement from 684 00:33:02,089 --> 00:33:03,200 that standpoint. 685 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,460 Again some of the duration the reason why the duration went 686 00:33:05,460 --> 00:33:07,630 up because we now have the meters telling us when they're 687 00:33:07,630 --> 00:33:09,200 out which is a very positive thing. 688 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,299 I mean that's something that from an engineering standpoint 689 00:33:12,299 --> 00:33:15,029 we've always known is that once you get a my hooked into 690 00:33:15,029 --> 00:33:17,829 your own system your numbers are going to get worse for a 691 00:33:17,829 --> 00:33:21,200 bit because it's now reporting immediately versus waiting 692 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,200 maybe eight hours for a person to come home. 693 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,200 Yeah I don't know anymore. 694 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,200 I know you know. 695 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,200 So we did. 696 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,490 I thought that was an insightful question because a lot of 697 00:33:30,490 --> 00:33:32,829 the utilities I'm familiar with they actually don't count 698 00:33:32,829 --> 00:33:35,069 the schedule maintenance as an outage when they do their 699 00:33:35,069 --> 00:33:37,200 out of these calculations that Jerry does. 700 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,200 And here I think we go strictly by the book. 701 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,200 We're not trying to shade anything any different direction. 702 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,200 So we give it all to you. 703 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,200 But a lot of places will ignore that in their calculations. 704 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,200 So I just know for nine is pretty solid. 705 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,200 Pretty good. 706 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,630 That fifth nine is you know that's very difficult to you 707 00:33:53,630 --> 00:33:56,200 know to make that kind of transition. 708 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,200 So you guys are doing a great job. 709 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,200 Thank you. 710 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,200 Thanks everyone. 711 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,200 Thank you. 712 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:09,199 Okay. 713 00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:14,130 The next next time we have in work session is to receive a 714 00:34:14,130 --> 00:34:15,199 report. 715 00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:18,699 Holder discussion and give staff direction regarding the 716 00:34:18,699 --> 00:34:23,199 customer service fiscal year 2018 19 operating budget. 717 00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:24,199 Mr. Chairman. 718 00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:25,199 P.B. members. 719 00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:27,199 My name is Tony point them the director of finance. 720 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:29,199 So I went to very quickly just introduce this item. 721 00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:31,199 Tiffany Thompson will come up here. 722 00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:33,699 She's our customer service manager and I've asked her to go 723 00:34:33,699 --> 00:34:36,130 ahead and walk you through this budget presentation for 724 00:34:36,130 --> 00:34:37,199 customer service. 725 00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:39,199 So I have to cover a couple of things. 726 00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:41,860 The first one is that making this a separate fund does not 727 00:34:41,860 --> 00:34:43,199 make it a new operation. 728 00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:46,909 It's an existing operation that has been in the water fund 729 00:34:46,909 --> 00:34:48,199 for many years. 730 00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:52,199 We have other internal service funds in the city. 731 00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,730 Those that come to mind are technology services for our 732 00:34:54,730 --> 00:34:57,199 computers risk management our fleet operation. 733 00:34:57,199 --> 00:35:00,079 And so this isn't anything different than what we've done 734 00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:02,199 with other operations within the city. 735 00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:05,250 And then finally by separating the side of its own 736 00:35:05,250 --> 00:35:08,840 segregated fund it will still continue to come back to the 737 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,739 P.B. on an annual basis for review and approval and to seek 738 00:35:12,739 --> 00:35:15,199 your recommendation back to the city council. 739 00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:19,059 And so none of those things will change by making this a 740 00:35:19,059 --> 00:35:20,199 separate fund. 741 00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:23,139 So I'll have Tiffany come up here walk you through the 742 00:35:23,139 --> 00:35:24,199 presentation. 743 00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:35,139 And if you have any questions we'll certainly be happy to 744 00:35:35,139 --> 00:35:39,199 answer those for you. 745 00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:41,199 Good morning everyone. 746 00:35:41,199 --> 00:35:44,199 I'm sorry that I don't have props like hot dogs and. 747 00:35:44,199 --> 00:35:46,199 So I really feel like I'm going to be disappointed. 748 00:35:46,199 --> 00:35:47,199 Thanks. 749 00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:48,199 Yeah. 750 00:35:48,199 --> 00:35:49,199 Give me that with that. 751 00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:51,199 So I'll bring s'mores next time we meet. 752 00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:54,139 I'm Tiffany Thompson customer service manager happy to be 753 00:35:54,139 --> 00:35:56,780 here this morning to go over our budget presentation 754 00:35:56,780 --> 00:35:59,199 customer service assist all five utilities. 755 00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:02,559 We operate the main switch calls coming into this city and 756 00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:06,079 we also take care of billing and customer service functions 757 00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:08,199 for 20 other departments. 758 00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:10,679 So last year we calculated and build over six hundred and 759 00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:12,199 twenty seven thousand bills. 760 00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:15,199 We accepted six hundred and sixteen thousand payments. 761 00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:17,699 We filled it over one hundred and eighty five thousand 762 00:36:17,699 --> 00:36:18,199 calls. 763 00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:21,210 We took care of over seventy two thousand customers in our 764 00:36:21,210 --> 00:36:24,250 lobby operation and we collected and reconciled over two 765 00:36:24,250 --> 00:36:27,530 hundred sixty eight million dollars worth of revenue in our 766 00:36:27,530 --> 00:36:28,199 department. 767 00:36:28,199 --> 00:36:31,599 And our mission and customer service is to help serve and 768 00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:35,199 educate both our internal and our external customers. 769 00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:38,659 So the objectives of this presentation is as Tony mentioned 770 00:36:38,659 --> 00:36:42,199 to discuss the internal creating the internal service fund 771 00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:46,199 review fund assumptions the financial forecast and review 772 00:36:46,199 --> 00:36:47,199 our revenues and expenditures and then go over the budget. 773 00:36:47,199 --> 00:36:51,199 And then go over some additional departmental information. 774 00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:53,690 So with the proposal for the internal service funds 775 00:36:53,690 --> 00:36:56,300 currently customer service is housed under the water 776 00:36:56,300 --> 00:36:57,199 utility fund. 777 00:36:57,199 --> 00:37:00,699 And it's been that way since 1999 and creating that 778 00:37:00,699 --> 00:37:04,139 internal service fund helps separate the accounting fund 779 00:37:04,139 --> 00:37:07,500 that's used to account for the services provided to those 780 00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:09,199 other services at cost. 781 00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:12,460 And so we do want to do this because we don't only service 782 00:37:12,460 --> 00:37:15,619 just water we do all five utilities and a general fund 783 00:37:15,619 --> 00:37:17,199 functions with that. 784 00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:20,650 And with this internal service fund creation it's going to 785 00:37:20,650 --> 00:37:24,119 reduce the required reserve level for the water fund and it 786 00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:27,199 will help reduce our overall budget expenses. 787 00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:29,889 So the fund assumptions include that we will not have any 788 00:37:29,889 --> 00:37:32,199 operating reserve required for this fund. 789 00:37:32,199 --> 00:37:36,409 Our revenues and expenditures will continue to be based off 790 00:37:36,409 --> 00:37:39,690 of our percentage of service utilized. So that means if the 791 00:37:39,690 --> 00:37:41,519 utility or the general fund is represented on a bill if we 792 00:37:41,519 --> 00:37:44,639 take a phone call for them or revenue that they'll get a 793 00:37:44,639 --> 00:37:47,199 certain allocation of that for service back to them. 794 00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:50,199 So nothing changes with how we do that now. 795 00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:53,690 So our financial forecast we do propose to have a 3 percent 796 00:37:53,690 --> 00:37:57,130 increase across the board for our personal services going 797 00:37:57,130 --> 00:38:00,199 forward and then a 2 percent everywhere else. 798 00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:04,190 The major budget changes that we are anticipating for 2020 799 00:38:04,190 --> 00:38:06,199 is the addition of 1.5 FTEs. 800 00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:09,199 That's a full time person and then a part time staff. 801 00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:12,909 And that's just to be able to continue to have capacity for 802 00:38:12,909 --> 00:38:16,469 us to handle our increased scope of services that we're 803 00:38:16,469 --> 00:38:20,130 offering and then also with the increase of our customer 804 00:38:20,130 --> 00:38:21,199 service base. 805 00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:26,070 Our highlights. This is how we allocate out our our total 806 00:38:26,070 --> 00:38:27,199 budget. 807 00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:30,869 Again that's based off of if the utility is represented on 808 00:38:30,869 --> 00:38:34,079 a bill if we take a phone call for them and accept the 809 00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:37,690 revenue is proportionate to what services we provide to 810 00:38:37,690 --> 00:38:38,199 them. 811 00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:41,300 And our budgeting highlights this year we do have a slight 812 00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:44,139 increase in our personal services for materials and 813 00:38:44,139 --> 00:38:47,440 supplies that's directly related to our bill production and 814 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,199 postage. 815 00:38:48,199 --> 00:38:51,199 We have a decrease in that line item budget this year. 816 00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:52,789 I'm going to talk a little bit more about that in just a 817 00:38:52,789 --> 00:38:53,199 moment. 818 00:38:53,199 --> 00:38:56,699 We did have a large increase in our electronic billing 819 00:38:56,699 --> 00:39:00,440 adoption which is giving us a decrease in this need for for 820 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,199 funds in this line item and then for our operations. 821 00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:07,170 This is where we increase the twenty five thousand dollars 822 00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:08,199 for the plus one. 823 00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:11,179 But we also have some additional savings in other area and 824 00:39:11,179 --> 00:39:14,199 overall we have an overall decrease in that line item. 825 00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:17,929 And so we're maintaining about a five point four million 826 00:39:17,929 --> 00:39:20,199 dollar budget again this year. 827 00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:22,860 So our position summary we have fifty one souls and 828 00:39:22,860 --> 00:39:26,199 customer service which makes up forty two point five FTEs. 829 00:39:26,199 --> 00:39:29,179 We have a cross section of full time employees part time 830 00:39:29,179 --> 00:39:32,380 permanent employees and then seasonal staff that we bring 831 00:39:32,380 --> 00:39:35,199 into assistance with our heavier volume times. 832 00:39:35,199 --> 00:39:38,840 Thirty of those souls help us with our frontline operations 833 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,199 to be there for our citizens needs. 834 00:39:41,199 --> 00:39:44,469 So our accomplishments for 17 18 we did launch a new 835 00:39:44,469 --> 00:39:47,679 payment portal in August called payment is since that time 836 00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:49,199 over twenty one thousand of our customers have been paid. 837 00:39:49,199 --> 00:39:51,909 So we have a total of twenty five thousand of our customers 838 00:39:51,909 --> 00:39:54,889 have registered through that payment portal that represents 839 00:39:54,889 --> 00:39:57,199 about 35 percent of our customer base. 840 00:39:57,199 --> 00:40:00,280 We have an increased electronic billing adoption which went 841 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,099 up fifty five percent since last year and that's a direct 842 00:40:03,099 --> 00:40:06,199 reflection on how easy it is to sign up for e-billing now. 843 00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:08,610 And because of that we were able to have that budget 844 00:40:08,610 --> 00:40:10,199 reduction in that line item. 845 00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:13,550 We've also deployed an after call customer satisfaction 846 00:40:13,550 --> 00:40:14,199 survey. 847 00:40:14,199 --> 00:40:16,889 We're utilizing that right now so our customers have the 848 00:40:16,889 --> 00:40:19,480 opportunity to answer three short questions on their 849 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,199 customer service experience. 850 00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:23,460 Right now we're seeing about a ninety seven point one 851 00:40:23,460 --> 00:40:26,199 percent satisfaction rating from our customers on that. 852 00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:29,260 And one of the last questions that we do ask customers if 853 00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:32,329 they want to receive a call back on their experience and 854 00:40:32,329 --> 00:40:35,360 our assumption when we first implemented that is when 855 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,199 people want to call back. 856 00:40:36,199 --> 00:40:38,679 Maybe they didn't get everything they needed to get taken 857 00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:39,199 care of. 858 00:40:39,199 --> 00:40:42,440 We actually have seen the exact opposite. Customers are 859 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,530 wanting a call back to accolade the customer service rep 860 00:40:45,530 --> 00:40:48,559 that assisted them and to really kind of shout their pra 861 00:40:48,559 --> 00:40:49,199 ises. 862 00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:51,590 So I think that's a testament to the staff that we have in 863 00:40:51,590 --> 00:40:52,199 our shop. 864 00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:54,079 So we're going to continue to deploy that out to customer 865 00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:55,199 service reps over the summer. 866 00:40:55,199 --> 00:40:57,659 We're just kind of tweaking some of the questions with that 867 00:40:57,659 --> 00:41:00,199 but we're pretty excited with those results thus far. 868 00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:03,329 We've also reduced the AMI disconnect meter reconnection 869 00:41:03,329 --> 00:41:05,199 time by almost 50 percent. 870 00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:07,719 So previously if we were doing a reconnection for a 871 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,530 customer we would send out a service order to DME and then 872 00:41:10,530 --> 00:41:12,639 they would take care of the rest of the steps in order to 873 00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:13,199 do that. 874 00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:16,420 In January we took over the rest of those that process so 875 00:41:16,420 --> 00:41:20,199 we could holistically do it in-house with customer service. 876 00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:23,489 And by doing that again we've reduced that reconnection 877 00:41:23,489 --> 00:41:26,199 time by 50 percent for our customers. 878 00:41:26,199 --> 00:41:28,579 We're piloting the prepaid program right metering program 879 00:41:28,579 --> 00:41:29,199 right now. 880 00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:31,230 We have a couple of our internal staff that are on the 881 00:41:31,230 --> 00:41:32,199 program right now. 882 00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:35,380 We're working on training and just mapping out some of the 883 00:41:35,380 --> 00:41:38,199 additional processes throughout the summer. 884 00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:40,619 We are going to be educating our customers about the 885 00:41:40,619 --> 00:41:43,409 availability of that and signing customers up throughout 886 00:41:43,409 --> 00:41:44,199 the summer. 887 00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:46,969 And in September and October we're really going to do that 888 00:41:46,969 --> 00:41:49,579 hard push marketing push to get people to sign up on that 889 00:41:49,579 --> 00:41:50,199 adoption. 890 00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:53,400 But we do want to do it gradual so we can kind of grow into 891 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,039 the program make sure that we know what the lessons learned 892 00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:58,750 are before we really do that full blown deployment with 893 00:41:58,750 --> 00:41:59,199 that. 894 00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:01,909 But as the word gets out if customers want to get on that 895 00:42:01,909 --> 00:42:04,199 we're going to get them signed up for it. 896 00:42:04,199 --> 00:42:06,650 We also implemented the new credit collection guidelines 897 00:42:06,650 --> 00:42:09,199 with your direction in city council which included 898 00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:12,429 executing a homelessness deposit waiver and we enhanced our 899 00:42:12,429 --> 00:42:15,199 plus one program criteria and funding. 900 00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:17,719 So for next year we want to report and proactively respond 901 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,280 to those assistance needs with the data that we're going to 902 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:21,199 be collecting. 903 00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:24,489 We also are working with DME right now on how we can reduce 904 00:42:24,489 --> 00:42:26,199 the reconnection charge. 905 00:42:26,199 --> 00:42:29,260 And so right now they're doing their cost of study survey 906 00:42:29,260 --> 00:42:32,119 and so we want to bring back what that would be and then 907 00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:35,179 also what the financial impact of that reduction of that 908 00:42:35,179 --> 00:42:36,199 rate will be. 909 00:42:36,199 --> 00:42:38,550 So that's something else that we're going to be bringing 910 00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:40,199 forth to you and a goal for next year. 911 00:42:40,199 --> 00:42:42,170 And we also want to continue to increase our adoption of 912 00:42:42,170 --> 00:42:43,199 self service options. 913 00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:46,199 So looking at the availability of adding a payment 914 00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:49,639 arrangement option online and then being able to connect 915 00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:52,199 and transfer services as well online. 916 00:42:52,199 --> 00:42:56,059 And so our budget emphasis is to maximize value while 917 00:42:56,059 --> 00:42:57,199 containing cost. 918 00:42:57,199 --> 00:42:59,840 And so we accomplish this by focusing on our performance 919 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,449 metrics and some of the ones that we do is the self service 920 00:43:02,449 --> 00:43:03,199 adoption. 921 00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:05,579 So we want to make sure to provide multiple channels for 922 00:43:05,579 --> 00:43:08,199 customers to be able to pay and do their business online. 923 00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:10,539 We want to make sure that we're accomplishing first contact 924 00:43:10,539 --> 00:43:11,199 resolution. 925 00:43:11,199 --> 00:43:13,650 They call us that one time we want to make sure to take 926 00:43:13,650 --> 00:43:15,199 care of it that first time. 927 00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:17,780 So we're not creating duplication of effort for our 928 00:43:17,780 --> 00:43:20,599 customer and also for our staff and then average speed of 929 00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:21,199 answer. 930 00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:23,130 We want to get our citizens where they need to go as 931 00:43:23,130 --> 00:43:25,579 quickly as possible and answer that phone call within 60 932 00:43:25,579 --> 00:43:26,199 seconds. 933 00:43:26,199 --> 00:43:29,980 Right now we're averaging about 36 seconds for us to answer 934 00:43:29,980 --> 00:43:31,199 that phone call. 935 00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:34,230 And so the key drivers of our budget is the volumes of our 936 00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:37,530 customer base, the behaviors of our customers, how we 937 00:43:37,530 --> 00:43:40,539 respond to that volume and then how do we minimize that 938 00:43:40,539 --> 00:43:41,199 volume. 939 00:43:41,199 --> 00:43:43,780 And so we do that by reducing volume and improving 940 00:43:43,780 --> 00:43:47,199 efficiency while also increasing customer satisfaction. 941 00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:49,699 So we want to continue to invest in those self service 942 00:43:49,699 --> 00:43:52,550 options like the new payment portal, being able to sign for 943 00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:54,199 electronic billing online. 944 00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:57,199 And a critical measure for us is first contact resolution. 945 00:43:57,199 --> 00:44:00,099 Again, that's providing that holistic solution the first 946 00:44:00,099 --> 00:44:01,199 time they call in. 947 00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:04,090 And we measure this through a robust quality assurance 948 00:44:04,090 --> 00:44:07,139 program in our department where we actually grade eight to 949 00:44:07,139 --> 00:44:09,860 ten observations from our frontline staff to make sure that 950 00:44:09,860 --> 00:44:12,869 they're meeting our key performance indicators and offering 951 00:44:12,869 --> 00:44:15,199 coaching and development and that continuity of service. 952 00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:18,199 And so we want to continue to improve efficiency. 953 00:44:18,199 --> 00:44:21,440 We use a workforce management tool that takes historical 954 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,250 data and tells us how what the forecast is and how we 955 00:44:24,250 --> 00:44:26,199 should deploy our resources. 956 00:44:26,199 --> 00:44:28,789 So that tells us where we should let staff go on break 957 00:44:28,789 --> 00:44:31,559 lunch, how many staff we should let off for the day so we 958 00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:34,199 can make sure that we meet our service levels. 959 00:44:34,199 --> 00:44:36,599 And then we want to continue to increase our process 960 00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:38,199 improvement and automation. 961 00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:41,440 And then with the new feedback that we're getting from the 962 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,909 customer service survey, use what our customers are saying 963 00:44:44,909 --> 00:44:48,010 and then deploy different action items to assist them 964 00:44:48,010 --> 00:44:49,199 better as well. 965 00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:51,539 And so these are the results of our cost containment 966 00:44:51,539 --> 00:44:54,199 strategies and the changes in our customer behavior. 967 00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:58,469 So since 08 and 09, our customer base has increased by 18.3 968 00:44:58,469 --> 00:44:59,199 percent. 969 00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:01,199 Our lobby volume has decreased by 60 percent. 970 00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:05,059 We used to see over 108,000 more customers in our lobby 971 00:45:05,059 --> 00:45:06,199 than we do today. 972 00:45:06,199 --> 00:45:08,730 And that's a direct reflection in that investment in those 973 00:45:08,730 --> 00:45:11,320 self-service tools that we've been deploying over the last 974 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,199 several years. 975 00:45:12,199 --> 00:45:15,579 Our call center volume has increased by 34.7 percent and 976 00:45:15,579 --> 00:45:19,199 our average handle time has increased by almost 25 percent. 977 00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:21,280 And that isn't necessarily a bad thing because we are 978 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,199 providing that first contact resolution. 979 00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:25,199 So we're not creating an additional callback. 980 00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:27,900 And we're also working with those customers that have more 981 00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:30,429 complex issues that we do need to spend a little bit more 982 00:45:30,429 --> 00:45:31,199 time with. 983 00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:34,119 And even though our customer base has increased by that 18. 984 00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:37,260 3 percent, our average speed of answer, how quickly we're 985 00:45:37,260 --> 00:45:41,199 answering that phone call, has decreased by 33 percent. 986 00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:44,510 And with that, a couple of months ago, we had a customer 987 00:45:44,510 --> 00:45:47,199 bring in her receipt from 1955. 988 00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:49,409 So 63 years later, she had her original receipt and she 989 00:45:49,409 --> 00:45:51,199 thought, well, you might want to have it. 990 00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:54,199 So I thought you would. I guess that's my prop. 991 00:45:54,199 --> 00:45:55,789 I should have brought it to be cool like you guys, but I 992 00:45:55,789 --> 00:45:56,199 didn't. 993 00:45:56,199 --> 00:46:00,809 So it's on the slideshow with that and with that, I'd be 994 00:46:00,809 --> 00:46:06,010 happy to answer any questions or comments that you may have 995 00:46:06,010 --> 00:46:06,199 . 996 00:46:06,199 --> 00:46:13,199 Questions. 997 00:46:13,199 --> 00:46:17,199 So what was the methodology in 1955 on light and power? 998 00:46:17,199 --> 00:46:18,199 Because it seems like it's the same thing. 999 00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:20,199 I'm not sure anybody here was here. 1000 00:46:20,199 --> 00:46:26,199 Questions. I'm sure. 1001 00:46:26,199 --> 00:46:28,199 Do you track first call resolution? 1002 00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:29,199 We sure do. 1003 00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:31,199 How we do you want to know how we track that? 1004 00:46:31,199 --> 00:46:34,300 Well, I mean, I'd like to know what your first call 1005 00:46:34,300 --> 00:46:36,199 resolution percentages. 1006 00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:37,199 Oh, great. It is. 1007 00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:39,199 I don't think you didn't list it there. 1008 00:46:39,199 --> 00:46:42,199 So yeah, it's ninety four point nine percent. 1009 00:46:42,199 --> 00:46:43,199 I just missed it. 1010 00:46:43,199 --> 00:46:45,199 OK. Thank you. 1011 00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:53,199 I had a question on the budget piece, the plus one. 1012 00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:57,199 Which category was that in? Plus one. 1013 00:46:57,199 --> 00:46:59,199 Let's see here. 1014 00:46:59,199 --> 00:47:01,199 It's what line item it is. 1015 00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:03,199 It's under operations. 1016 00:47:03,199 --> 00:47:07,199 Under operations. Yes, sir. 1017 00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:11,869 And that in the eight in the eighteen nineteen budget that 1018 00:47:11,869 --> 00:47:15,199 shows an increase to one twenty five. 1019 00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:17,199 Is that correct? Yes, sir. Correct. 1020 00:47:17,199 --> 00:47:20,199 And did we increase that in seventeen eighteen? 1021 00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:27,079 We actually increase this year, but we have savings that 1022 00:47:27,079 --> 00:47:31,199 will be able to accommodate it. 1023 00:47:31,199 --> 00:47:34,199 Any other? I'm sure there's questions. 1024 00:47:34,199 --> 00:47:37,630 One question, the three percent increase over the five 1025 00:47:37,630 --> 00:47:41,199 years, is that based on historical or how does that drive? 1026 00:47:41,199 --> 00:47:45,190 That is based on my story on that, because that's just what 1027 00:47:45,190 --> 00:47:46,199 we've done in the past. 1028 00:47:46,199 --> 00:47:50,199 But if there is additional methodology. 1029 00:47:50,199 --> 00:47:51,199 That's just a planning number. 1030 00:47:51,199 --> 00:47:53,699 I mean, it approximates the population growth, customer 1031 00:47:53,699 --> 00:47:54,199 growth. 1032 00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:55,199 So it's a plan number. 1033 00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:58,440 We reevaluate that on an annual basis, true it up if we 1034 00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,199 need to. 1035 00:47:59,199 --> 00:48:02,300 But for planning purposes, that's just a customary 1036 00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:04,199 percentage that we utilize. 1037 00:48:04,199 --> 00:48:09,199 So how does that compare to actual from previous years? 1038 00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:14,199 Yeah, we know. 1039 00:48:14,199 --> 00:48:16,199 Yeah, we don't have that right now. 1040 00:48:16,199 --> 00:48:18,199 We can get that back to you. 1041 00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:21,250 And just just to let the people know, we do plan to come 1042 00:48:21,250 --> 00:48:24,599 back to you around the twenty fifth of June to finalize 1043 00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:25,199 that. 1044 00:48:25,199 --> 00:48:28,349 We'll bring back any answers to any questions that we don't 1045 00:48:28,349 --> 00:48:29,199 have today. 1046 00:48:29,199 --> 00:48:32,079 But today we are seeking direction from you that if this is 1047 00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:34,559 something that you'd like for us to pursue and breaking 1048 00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:37,829 this out as an internal service fund, then we'll come back 1049 00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:39,199 to you as such around the twenty fifth. 1050 00:48:39,199 --> 00:48:44,199 But we'll get a response to you on that question. 1051 00:48:44,199 --> 00:48:47,289 Yeah, I just wanted to say as far as I'm concerned, I 1052 00:48:47,289 --> 00:48:52,079 really like this idea of separating the having a separate 1053 00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:54,199 internal service fund. 1054 00:48:54,199 --> 00:48:56,199 I actually was had not been aware. 1055 00:48:56,199 --> 00:49:00,469 I don't know about the rest of you that it was lumped 1056 00:49:00,469 --> 00:49:02,199 together with water. 1057 00:49:02,199 --> 00:49:06,199 So that seems to me arbitrary. 1058 00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:08,199 That was a kind of arbitrary. 1059 00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:10,119 I'm sure there was some reason behind it, but it looks 1060 00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:12,000 arbitrary and it doesn't look like it was good for the 1061 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,199 water department either. 1062 00:49:13,199 --> 00:49:15,199 So it's better for water. 1063 00:49:15,199 --> 00:49:16,199 It's better for customer service. 1064 00:49:16,199 --> 00:49:18,199 It's better for the public for transparency. 1065 00:49:18,199 --> 00:49:22,469 And now when questions arise about the about what's being 1066 00:49:22,469 --> 00:49:28,010 spent in the internal service fund, it'll also be easier to 1067 00:49:28,010 --> 00:49:33,199 separate those numbers and and calculate them. 1068 00:49:33,199 --> 00:49:36,099 So anyway, this is an excellent resolution to a problem I 1069 00:49:36,099 --> 00:49:39,199 didn't I didn't even know existed until reading about it. 1070 00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:46,199 But I myself approve very much. 1071 00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:48,199 Yeah, I mean, go ahead. 1072 00:49:48,199 --> 00:49:49,199 No, I approve, too. 1073 00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:51,199 I think it's a great idea to do it this way. 1074 00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:53,199 And I'm sure it started that way. 1075 00:49:53,199 --> 00:49:57,940 Maybe water was the biggest person or department or 1076 00:49:57,940 --> 00:49:59,199 whatever. 1077 00:49:59,199 --> 00:50:03,199 Sometimes you just do things and keep doing them. 1078 00:50:03,199 --> 00:50:07,469 You know, I guess the the obviously other than the than 1079 00:50:07,469 --> 00:50:11,199 having it all in one place where you can see it. 1080 00:50:11,199 --> 00:50:15,059 We've all known that there's been, you know, cost of 1081 00:50:15,059 --> 00:50:17,199 service to all the utilities. 1082 00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:18,199 There's really not any change there. 1083 00:50:18,199 --> 00:50:22,469 I guess a major financial change is going to be the reserve 1084 00:50:22,469 --> 00:50:25,199 requirements for the water fund. 1085 00:50:25,199 --> 00:50:29,460 I mean, that's if we were reserving based upon what we were 1086 00:50:29,460 --> 00:50:33,280 collecting cost of service from all the other utilities, 1087 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:38,199 that's a that's a huge, huge part of the waterfront. 1088 00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:40,860 That's a big number, as you can see, one and a half to two 1089 00:50:40,860 --> 00:50:42,199 point three million. 1090 00:50:42,199 --> 00:50:44,199 That's that's to me. 1091 00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:51,199 That's a major financial impact for this is doing that. 1092 00:50:51,199 --> 00:50:57,070 So now we go from having more more days and reserves for 1093 00:50:57,070 --> 00:50:58,199 water. 1094 00:50:58,199 --> 00:51:00,199 Yes, it definitely right. 1095 00:51:00,199 --> 00:51:02,199 It's an opportunity. 1096 00:51:02,199 --> 00:51:04,760 It increased the reserve a little bit more than it needed 1097 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:05,199 to be. 1098 00:51:05,199 --> 00:51:07,670 And we also get questions on occasion for exactly how 1099 00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:09,199 customer service is funded. 1100 00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:11,210 So the way that we've laid that out, I'm hoping that 1101 00:51:11,210 --> 00:51:13,199 explains to the public a little bit better. 1102 00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:16,199 Transparent. 1103 00:51:16,199 --> 00:51:17,199 Yep. Very good. 1104 00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:20,199 Any other questions? 1105 00:51:20,199 --> 00:51:21,199 No. Thank you. 1106 00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:25,199 Thank you. Appreciate it. 1107 00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:28,880 Okay, next, next time we have in the work session is to is 1108 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,659 item C, which is to receive a report, hold a discussion and 1109 00:51:32,659 --> 00:51:37,070 give staff direction regarding the water fiscal year 2018 1110 00:51:37,070 --> 00:51:48,199 19 operating and capital budget. 1111 00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:52,880 So, Mr. Chairman, again, Tony pointed director finance, a 1112 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,199 PB members, thank you for having me today. 1113 00:51:56,199 --> 00:52:00,460 Over the last several months, we've had a lot of internal 1114 00:52:00,460 --> 00:52:04,280 staff discussions, certainly as as you've just seen, 1115 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,869 breaking out the customer service operation from the water 1116 00:52:07,869 --> 00:52:11,199 front was was a result of some of those internal discussions 1117 00:52:11,199 --> 00:52:13,199 feedback that we've gotten in the past. 1118 00:52:13,199 --> 00:52:15,969 And so you'll see the impact of that today and very similar 1119 00:52:15,969 --> 00:52:18,199 to what we've done on the solid waste side. 1120 00:52:18,199 --> 00:52:20,199 We really looked at this operation. 1121 00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:24,599 We've also looked at the CIP program to make sure that that 1122 00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:28,199 those were in line and easily justifiable. 1123 00:52:28,199 --> 00:52:30,199 So I'm happy to present to you today. 1124 00:52:30,199 --> 00:52:33,199 Our proposed budget. 1125 00:52:33,199 --> 00:52:35,429 As you saw in your backup, we do have two options that we 1126 00:52:35,429 --> 00:52:37,699 want to discuss with you today and certainly get your 1127 00:52:37,699 --> 00:52:41,000 feedback and your direction on which option you you would 1128 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,199 you would like for us to do. 1129 00:52:42,199 --> 00:52:47,199 You would like for us to continue to proceed with. 1130 00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:51,469 So, just briefly want to talk with you a little bit about 1131 00:52:51,469 --> 00:52:53,199 our customer base. 1132 00:52:53,199 --> 00:52:57,519 So as you can see, we've had a, you know, roughly a 2% 1133 00:52:57,519 --> 00:53:00,199 increase in our customer base. 1134 00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:04,460 And that goes to something very similar to what we see on 1135 00:53:04,460 --> 00:53:08,750 the population side. We've broken it out for you between 1136 00:53:08,750 --> 00:53:12,860 residential, commercial, wholesale. And so you can see that 1137 00:53:12,860 --> 00:53:14,199 the total growth has been around 2%. 1138 00:53:14,199 --> 00:53:18,570 2015 and 2016 we saw a little bit higher increase that we 1139 00:53:18,570 --> 00:53:21,590 had in the prior two years and certainly last year we 1140 00:53:21,590 --> 00:53:24,199 dropped back down to about 1.5%. 1141 00:53:24,199 --> 00:53:28,909 So, on average, it's been about a 2% growth in our in our 1142 00:53:28,909 --> 00:53:30,199 customers. 1143 00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:37,250 So, I wanted to kind of show you this this this chart here 1144 00:53:37,250 --> 00:53:44,610 and let me say that in the past, the department has brought 1145 00:53:44,610 --> 00:53:51,239 forward to the PB a separate presentation regarding 1146 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,900 customer class and volume. What we've done this time just 1147 00:53:55,900 --> 00:53:57,150 for expediency purposes of we've kind of combined this 1148 00:53:57,150 --> 00:53:58,199 along with the financial trends. 1149 00:53:58,199 --> 00:54:00,699 We have both the loose field treatment plant and also the 1150 00:54:00,699 --> 00:54:04,469 Ray Roberts treatment plant. We have the green shaded area 1151 00:54:04,469 --> 00:54:09,570 represents the loose field treatment plant that's about 25 1152 00:54:09,570 --> 00:54:11,199 29. 1153 00:54:11,199 --> 00:54:16,389 And then we currently have the Ray Roberts, which is the 1154 00:54:16,389 --> 00:54:22,139 first shaded area that adds, I believe about 20 mgd based 1155 00:54:22,139 --> 00:54:27,469 on where our customer demand has been and where our 1156 00:54:27,469 --> 00:54:29,199 production has been. 1157 00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:33,570 This expansion about a 30 mgd expansion to the Ray Roberts 1158 00:54:33,570 --> 00:54:37,969 plant will come somewhere in 2027 when we talk to you a 1159 00:54:37,969 --> 00:54:42,199 little bit about our CIP program will talk to you about. 1160 00:54:42,199 --> 00:54:45,769 We've already started to make plans within the five year C 1161 00:54:45,769 --> 00:54:49,769 IP plan for a $9 million design of that expansion. Again, 1162 00:54:49,769 --> 00:54:53,869 with all these programs will continue to evaluate those as 1163 00:54:53,869 --> 00:54:55,199 we move forward. 1164 00:54:55,199 --> 00:54:58,369 Our production levels have been what our demand is from our 1165 00:54:58,369 --> 00:55:02,650 customers. As you can see, we have a couple of outliers 1166 00:55:02,650 --> 00:55:07,130 here over the last two years where we've actually seen a 1167 00:55:07,130 --> 00:55:10,199 decrease in our peak water usage. 1168 00:55:10,199 --> 00:55:14,469 But again, we continue to budget basically what's 1169 00:55:14,469 --> 00:55:19,579 considered a normal year. That's the blue trend line. The 1170 00:55:19,579 --> 00:55:24,329 red trend line is a dry year. The green trend line is a wet 1171 00:55:24,329 --> 00:55:28,840 year. And so we budget based on a normal year for 1172 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,199 production purposes. 1173 00:55:31,199 --> 00:55:34,250 One of the water assumptions, some of the assumptions that 1174 00:55:34,250 --> 00:55:37,159 have gone into this forecast is that all rates are based on 1175 00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:40,010 cost of service. We do have a cost of service rate model 1176 00:55:40,010 --> 00:55:41,199 that we utilize. 1177 00:55:41,199 --> 00:55:46,230 We maintain a debt service coverage ratio of 1.25% or 1178 00:55:46,230 --> 00:55:49,829 higher. That's a standard that's utilized by most bond 1179 00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:53,130 rating agencies, but it's also part of our debt policy for 1180 00:55:53,130 --> 00:55:56,590 our utilities is to maintain that, maintain that not just 1181 00:55:56,590 --> 00:56:00,199 as a utility system, but for each individual utility. 1182 00:56:00,199 --> 00:56:03,659 We have standard targets that we've had historically here 1183 00:56:03,659 --> 00:56:07,309 at the City of Denton. 100% revenue funding of our 1184 00:56:07,309 --> 00:56:11,539 distribution system replacements, 25% revenue funding, and 1185 00:56:11,539 --> 00:56:15,269 75% debt funding of any treatment plant infrastructure 1186 00:56:15,269 --> 00:56:19,199 expansion primarily or just infrastructure. 1187 00:56:19,199 --> 00:56:23,059 And then our target has been on the reserve side on the 1188 00:56:23,059 --> 00:56:27,550 operating reserve, 33% to 50%. This is a customary tool 1189 00:56:27,550 --> 00:56:31,329 that's used when you have a range of targets to allow you 1190 00:56:31,329 --> 00:56:36,199 flexibility and that way, you know, there's a floor of 33%, 1191 00:56:36,199 --> 00:56:41,179 but it can be as high as 50% and we manage to those targets 1192 00:56:41,179 --> 00:56:45,199 , about 120 to 180 day range. 1193 00:56:45,199 --> 00:56:48,570 Also, the last two pieces here, multi-year financial 1194 00:56:48,570 --> 00:56:52,480 planning to minimize rate increases. If you recall for last 1195 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,139 year's presentation, there was an assumed 2% increase in 1196 00:56:56,139 --> 00:56:59,869 rates for the five-year plan. In both scenarios that we 1197 00:56:59,869 --> 00:57:03,199 have for you today, those have been eliminated. 1198 00:57:03,199 --> 00:57:07,039 And, you know, some of that has to do with the fact that we 1199 00:57:07,039 --> 00:57:10,880 've pulled out this customer service operation that was 1200 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,869 building on top of that reserve that it won't do that now. 1201 00:57:14,869 --> 00:57:19,460 And then finally, rate revenue forecast is based on 145 1202 00:57:19,460 --> 00:57:21,199 gallons per customer per day. 1203 00:57:21,199 --> 00:57:24,469 So some cost containment strategies that we've utilized, 1204 00:57:24,469 --> 00:57:27,719 not just this year, but really, really starting last year 1205 00:57:27,719 --> 00:57:31,010 was to improve our debt service efficiency by balancing CIP 1206 00:57:31,010 --> 00:57:34,269 s and our cash flows, making sure that we're issuing debt, 1207 00:57:34,269 --> 00:57:37,690 that we're transferring money over to our capital program 1208 00:57:37,690 --> 00:57:41,389 as those projects are coming forward and we begin to enc 1209 00:57:41,389 --> 00:57:43,199 umber those funds. 1210 00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:47,469 We also include a assumed salary savings for just normal 1211 00:57:47,469 --> 00:57:51,800 attrition and turnover within our operation. We reduced 1212 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,329 revenue funded capital in 19 by 2 million to level out the 1213 00:57:55,329 --> 00:57:58,159 five-year. And so we've tried to smooth that out on what we 1214 00:57:58,159 --> 00:58:00,199 're contributing to our capital program. 1215 00:58:00,199 --> 00:58:03,199 And then we removed customer service, as we've talked to 1216 00:58:03,199 --> 00:58:05,960 you already, from this budget to better reflect the 1217 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,289 operating days and the reserves. The only piece that's now, 1218 00:58:09,289 --> 00:58:12,349 that's kept in the water fund is water's contributions and 1219 00:58:12,349 --> 00:58:16,469 expenditure to that internal service fund and that's 1220 00:58:16,469 --> 00:58:24,199 utilized to, as part of the calculation for the reserve. 1221 00:58:24,199 --> 00:58:27,340 Like every business and public enterprise that we have, 1222 00:58:27,340 --> 00:58:30,280 there are certain risks associated and so we wanted to 1223 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,190 point those out for you just so that you know that we're 1224 00:58:33,190 --> 00:58:36,369 cognizant of these things and might be coming in the future 1225 00:58:36,369 --> 00:58:39,199 that might impact this financial forecast. 1226 00:58:39,199 --> 00:58:42,730 Raw water transmission lines costs, the Lewisville Dam 1227 00:58:42,730 --> 00:58:46,170 repair, that's an issue that you've heard in the paper 1228 00:58:46,170 --> 00:58:50,070 recently. Obviously I've already talked a little bit about 1229 00:58:50,070 --> 00:58:54,090 this 30MGD expansion for Ray Roberts that we'll continue to 1230 00:58:54,090 --> 00:58:55,199 evaluate. 1231 00:58:55,199 --> 00:59:00,039 It's currently outside of our planning window, other than 1232 00:59:00,039 --> 00:59:04,199 we have a $9 million plan design in 2022. 1233 00:59:04,199 --> 00:59:08,659 And another transmission line replacements funding is also 1234 00:59:08,659 --> 00:59:11,780 an issue that we need to be aware of. And then age and 1235 00:59:11,780 --> 00:59:14,679 condition of Lewisville pump station. And then finally we 1236 00:59:14,679 --> 00:59:19,199 do have a declining per capita water usage. 1237 00:59:19,199 --> 00:59:22,960 We've seen that over the last couple of years. We believe 1238 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,409 that some of it, or a large part of it has to do with just 1239 00:59:26,409 --> 00:59:30,289 the fact that our customers have more efficient appliances 1240 00:59:30,289 --> 00:59:34,130 within their home, maybe a little bit more cognizant of the 1241 00:59:34,130 --> 00:59:36,199 water issues in the area. 1242 00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:39,949 So the two options that we wanted to talk to you about 1243 00:59:39,949 --> 00:59:44,260 today, and let me say that our recommendation to you today 1244 00:59:44,260 --> 00:59:48,079 is option one, but certainly if the PUB would like to 1245 00:59:48,079 --> 00:59:53,199 entertain option two, certainly that's your prerogative. 1246 00:59:53,199 --> 00:59:57,469 So option two does include a 2% rate decrease across the 1247 00:59:57,469 --> 01:00:01,449 entire system. We'll be coming back to you in a future 1248 01:00:01,449 --> 01:00:05,650 meeting to talk to you about what that means specifically 1249 01:00:05,650 --> 01:00:09,769 to each individual rate class as we model that within our 1250 01:00:09,769 --> 01:00:11,199 rate model. 1251 01:00:11,199 --> 01:00:15,820 And then option two, and so option one is an option two 1252 01:00:15,820 --> 01:00:20,550 that eliminates any future rate increases as well that 1253 01:00:20,550 --> 01:00:25,800 previously been included. Option two, basically this is a 1254 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,989 no rate increase next year or any of the other four years 1255 01:00:28,989 --> 01:00:30,199 of the five year plan. 1256 01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:33,690 But what we've done is because there is additional reserves 1257 01:00:33,690 --> 01:00:37,269 or above the minimum reserve, we've increased the amount of 1258 01:00:37,269 --> 01:00:40,630 revenue funding capital and decreased the amount of debt 1259 01:00:40,630 --> 01:00:43,199 that we'll plan to issue in the future. 1260 01:00:43,199 --> 01:00:47,199 So those are option one, option two. 1261 01:00:47,199 --> 01:00:51,789 So just quickly, I wanted to walk you through our option 1262 01:00:51,789 --> 01:00:56,989 one forecast. As you can see here, we in this forecast, the 1263 01:00:56,989 --> 01:01:02,199 2% decrease in rate revenue, no increases in the future. 1264 01:01:02,199 --> 01:01:08,059 Our reserve target or our reserve ends at about 20.746 1265 01:01:08,059 --> 01:01:13,079 million, but yet that's still a little bit above where our 1266 01:01:13,079 --> 01:01:19,420 minimum range is about 15.5 million, maximum is 23. So 1267 01:01:19,420 --> 01:01:23,199 again, we're managing to that range. 1268 01:01:23,199 --> 01:01:27,630 If you look out in the out years, we stay pretty well above 1269 01:01:27,630 --> 01:01:32,139 each one of those, the minimums. And so we think this is a 1270 01:01:32,139 --> 01:01:35,199 good solid plan for the community. 1271 01:01:35,199 --> 01:01:42,199 Our debt service remains above 1.25 each year of the plan. 1272 01:01:42,199 --> 01:01:46,869 And so again, just wanted to just reiterate this plan is a 1273 01:01:46,869 --> 01:01:52,199 2% decrease for next year, no rate increases in the future. 1274 01:01:52,199 --> 01:01:57,239 Option two is the no rate changes. And again, as I 1275 01:01:57,239 --> 01:02:01,159 mentioned, what this plan does, it reduces the amount of 1276 01:02:01,159 --> 01:02:05,139 debt service that is planned to be issued going forward in 1277 01:02:05,139 --> 01:02:07,199 each of those last four years. 1278 01:02:07,199 --> 01:02:10,840 Now we evaluate, just so the board knows, we evaluate every 1279 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,050 year where our CIP program is, and before we issue any 1280 01:02:14,050 --> 01:02:17,760 bonds, we make those decisions. The last two years, we've 1281 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,760 not had to issue any debt for this utility and we'll 1282 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,199 continue to do that as we go forward. 1283 01:02:23,199 --> 01:02:27,099 And so we'll only issue the debt when those projects are 1284 01:02:27,099 --> 01:02:28,199 ready to go. 1285 01:02:28,199 --> 01:02:32,530 And so within this plan, as I mentioned, it's a little bit 1286 01:02:32,530 --> 01:02:37,320 better as far as our operating reserves for fiscal year 19, 1287 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:42,980 we're at about 18.4 million out to the final year of 2023, 1288 01:02:42,980 --> 01:02:45,199 18.8 million. 1289 01:02:45,199 --> 01:02:48,960 Again, each one of those years is well above the minimum 1290 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,880 range for the financial forecast or for the targets that we 1291 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,199 've established for this fund. 1292 01:02:55,199 --> 01:02:59,059 Some of the highlights for you, as you can see, this is a 1293 01:02:59,059 --> 01:03:02,539 breakdown and we've given you a three year history of where 1294 01:03:02,539 --> 01:03:06,199 those revenues have been by each individual class. 1295 01:03:06,199 --> 01:03:09,989 I will mention that the cost of service that you see here 1296 01:03:09,989 --> 01:03:14,449 for General Fund, electric, wastewater, and solid waste are 1297 01:03:14,449 --> 01:03:18,389 attributable to some of the management oversight that's 1298 01:03:18,389 --> 01:03:22,679 included in the water fund, our utility administration that 1299 01:03:22,679 --> 01:03:25,909 oversees some of these functions that are outside of this 1300 01:03:25,909 --> 01:03:26,199 fund. 1301 01:03:26,199 --> 01:03:30,449 And so there'll still be some revenues that are coming into 1302 01:03:30,449 --> 01:03:33,199 this fund to recover some of those costs. 1303 01:03:33,199 --> 01:03:38,099 Our budget highlights on the expenditure side, as you can 1304 01:03:38,099 --> 01:03:43,010 see, we do break these out by classification, you know, 1305 01:03:43,010 --> 01:03:47,199 heavy concentration here in our debt service. 1306 01:03:47,199 --> 01:03:51,469 And so we'll continue, like I mentioned, we'll continue to 1307 01:03:51,469 --> 01:03:55,429 evaluate that going forward, only issue the debt that we 1308 01:03:55,429 --> 01:03:59,199 actually need for the projects that are ready to go. 1309 01:03:59,199 --> 01:04:02,369 So currently, where our rates are for just wanted to give 1310 01:04:02,369 --> 01:04:05,469 you kind of a brief picture again, this is all subject to 1311 01:04:05,469 --> 01:04:06,199 change. 1312 01:04:06,199 --> 01:04:10,059 But our current rates is this yellow bar that's where we 1313 01:04:10,059 --> 01:04:14,699 currently are for a customer that's utilizing about 920,000 1314 01:04:14,699 --> 01:04:18,159 gallons per year on the residential side, with a 2% 1315 01:04:18,159 --> 01:04:22,199 decrease that slightly moves us to the left of that. 1316 01:04:22,199 --> 01:04:26,460 We anticipate that some of these comparable utilities will 1317 01:04:26,460 --> 01:04:30,199 likely be seeing increases in water rates this next year. 1318 01:04:30,199 --> 01:04:32,630 We've still not been able to confirm that they're still 1319 01:04:32,630 --> 01:04:34,199 also working on their budgets. 1320 01:04:34,199 --> 01:04:37,079 But as we get that information, we'll bring that back to 1321 01:04:37,079 --> 01:04:39,199 the PAB to let you know where they are. 1322 01:04:39,199 --> 01:04:40,199 Yes, ma'am. 1323 01:04:40,199 --> 01:04:44,199 Increases, did you mean decreases? 1324 01:04:44,199 --> 01:04:47,300 These comparable utilities will likely see increases in 1325 01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:48,199 their rates. 1326 01:04:48,199 --> 01:04:49,199 Increases, okay. 1327 01:04:49,199 --> 01:04:50,199 Yes, correct. 1328 01:04:50,199 --> 01:04:53,980 So with this proposed decrease, we'll actually be further 1329 01:04:53,980 --> 01:04:56,199 to the left of this comparison. 1330 01:04:56,199 --> 01:04:57,199 Good, thanks. 1331 01:04:57,199 --> 01:04:59,199 Yes, ma'am. 1332 01:04:59,199 --> 01:05:01,670 For a commercial customer, again, this is, again, the 1333 01:05:01,670 --> 01:05:02,199 impact. 1334 01:05:02,199 --> 01:05:05,110 Again, we'll need to put all this into our model and bring 1335 01:05:05,110 --> 01:05:07,769 that back to you to get you a better idea of where we're 1336 01:05:07,769 --> 01:05:09,199 actually going to be. 1337 01:05:09,199 --> 01:05:11,199 This assumes a 2% decrease. 1338 01:05:11,199 --> 01:05:15,769 Again, as this information becomes available for what these 1339 01:05:15,769 --> 01:05:20,199 utilities are going to be doing, we'll bring that back. 1340 01:05:20,199 --> 01:05:22,530 But likely this will continue to push us further to the 1341 01:05:22,530 --> 01:05:25,199 left where we are, even with our commercial customers. 1342 01:05:25,199 --> 01:05:30,860 And then finally, we show you a commercial customer with 1343 01:05:30,860 --> 01:05:36,199 200,000 gallons of usage per year. 1344 01:05:36,199 --> 01:05:40,199 So that wraps up my piece of the presentation. 1345 01:05:40,199 --> 01:05:41,829 We can either, if you have questions, we can go through 1346 01:05:41,829 --> 01:05:44,469 that now, or the department is going to come up and go 1347 01:05:44,469 --> 01:05:46,199 through their presentation. 1348 01:05:46,199 --> 01:05:49,199 But whatever you would like, yes, ma'am. 1349 01:05:49,199 --> 01:05:54,329 On personal services, I always look at actuals from prior 1350 01:05:54,329 --> 01:05:55,199 years. 1351 01:05:55,199 --> 01:06:01,800 Why are we going from roughly $6.8 million in actuals for 1352 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:06,199 personal services to $8.85? 1353 01:06:06,199 --> 01:06:11,199 We don't have any FD counties in that. 1354 01:06:11,199 --> 01:06:14,199 We don't have any pre-staff in there, right? 1355 01:06:14,199 --> 01:06:16,199 Two? 1356 01:06:16,199 --> 01:06:18,199 No, some customer service. 1357 01:06:18,199 --> 01:06:41,199 We have a lot of salary savings in the previous years. 1358 01:06:41,199 --> 01:06:44,559 Each year in the past, we have a lot of turnover in salary 1359 01:06:44,559 --> 01:06:47,199 savings, so that's why they're lower. 1360 01:06:47,199 --> 01:06:50,699 We budget each year based on all the employees that we have 1361 01:06:50,699 --> 01:06:53,199 fully being there for the full year. 1362 01:06:53,199 --> 01:06:55,199 So there is a difference in that. 1363 01:06:55,199 --> 01:06:58,699 And we can get you how many positions were empty in the 1364 01:06:58,699 --> 01:07:01,199 previous years, if you'd like. 1365 01:07:01,199 --> 01:07:02,199 You answered the question. 1366 01:07:02,199 --> 01:07:03,199 Thank you. 1367 01:07:03,199 --> 01:07:04,199 Excellent. 1368 01:07:04,199 --> 01:07:06,900 That would be interesting to see, because I know we have 1369 01:07:06,900 --> 01:07:08,199 unfilled positions. 1370 01:07:08,199 --> 01:07:12,199 We budget for them, but they go unfilled. 1371 01:07:12,199 --> 01:07:16,469 So if we're actually getting to what the actual filled 1372 01:07:16,469 --> 01:07:19,199 positions would be, is that what we're saying? 1373 01:07:19,199 --> 01:07:20,199 Correct. 1374 01:07:20,199 --> 01:07:22,750 And what we can do is, with the other question that was 1375 01:07:22,750 --> 01:07:26,039 asked on customer service, we can bring that back to the P 1376 01:07:26,039 --> 01:07:28,199 AB and show you what that trend has been. 1377 01:07:28,199 --> 01:07:29,199 Okay. 1378 01:07:29,199 --> 01:07:31,199 Okay. 1379 01:07:31,199 --> 01:07:33,199 Other questions? 1380 01:07:33,199 --> 01:07:34,199 I had a question. 1381 01:07:34,199 --> 01:07:38,920 To me, it seems, just looking at the two options, it seems 1382 01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:45,869 counterintuitive that you'd have a rate decrease and have 1383 01:07:45,869 --> 01:07:50,199 less net loss than you would. 1384 01:07:50,199 --> 01:07:53,230 But I just want to point out that it looks like it's coming 1385 01:07:53,230 --> 01:07:55,199 out of revenue-funded capital. 1386 01:07:55,199 --> 01:07:59,000 The no rate increase, there's more revenue-funded capital 1387 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,199 in that number. 1388 01:08:00,199 --> 01:08:01,199 That's correct. 1389 01:08:01,199 --> 01:08:02,199 Is that correct? 1390 01:08:02,199 --> 01:08:04,199 Correct. 1391 01:08:04,199 --> 01:08:06,760 Again, the plan would be to issue less debt and revenue 1392 01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,199 fund more of that capital. 1393 01:08:08,199 --> 01:08:09,199 Right. 1394 01:08:09,199 --> 01:08:14,239 And also, on the 145-gallon per customer per day, I know it 1395 01:08:14,239 --> 01:08:16,199 's been trending down. 1396 01:08:16,199 --> 01:08:18,199 You said it was a two-year trend. 1397 01:08:18,199 --> 01:08:21,199 I don't know if two years is a trend. 1398 01:08:21,199 --> 01:08:25,199 It could be just a phenomenon. 1399 01:08:25,199 --> 01:08:35,789 But looking at the wet years versus dry years, it's hard to 1400 01:08:35,789 --> 01:08:42,390 look at it 12 months because you may get rain in certain 1401 01:08:42,390 --> 01:08:45,659 times of the year when you expect your water usage to be up 1402 01:08:45,659 --> 01:08:47,199 and you didn't use it. 1403 01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:55,569 And so I think that's what we saw. We had an extremely wet 1404 01:08:55,569 --> 01:08:56,199 year before last, and it was down. 1405 01:08:56,199 --> 01:09:01,229 But then not as quite a wet year, almost a normal year, and 1406 01:09:01,229 --> 01:09:03,199 it was down as well. 1407 01:09:03,199 --> 01:09:07,460 And it's not so much the amount of rain, it's the timing of 1408 01:09:07,460 --> 01:09:09,199 when the rain happens. 1409 01:09:09,199 --> 01:09:13,060 I will tell you, and I do have that here for you, the 1410 01:09:13,060 --> 01:09:18,199 gallons per customer per day in 2013 was about 158. 1411 01:09:18,199 --> 01:09:21,199 In 2014, it went down to 138. 1412 01:09:21,199 --> 01:09:23,199 2015, 140. 1413 01:09:23,199 --> 01:09:25,199 2016, 140. 1414 01:09:25,199 --> 01:09:28,199 2017, 134. 1415 01:09:28,199 --> 01:09:33,199 We're estimating 142 for this year. 1416 01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:36,199 And so that is something that we're cognizant of. 1417 01:09:36,199 --> 01:09:39,180 Again, Mr. Chairman, I'm not sure that three years, four 1418 01:09:39,180 --> 01:09:42,390 years is a trend, but it's certainly something we're aware 1419 01:09:42,390 --> 01:09:45,069 of and it's something that we may need to take action 1420 01:09:45,069 --> 01:09:46,199 before too long. 1421 01:09:46,199 --> 01:09:49,140 So it is something we're aware of. It's something that we 1422 01:09:49,140 --> 01:09:50,199 do track. 1423 01:09:50,199 --> 01:09:53,380 >> I would just add, Mr. Chairman, on page six, the water, 1424 01:09:53,380 --> 01:09:56,390 the future risks and mitigation, this is something I 1425 01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:58,199 promised him I'd bring up. 1426 01:09:58,199 --> 01:10:03,520 But these are all huge costs. It's something that we manage 1427 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:07,420 the reserves very closely. We're trying to be as customer 1428 01:10:07,420 --> 01:10:09,199 friendly as we can in terms of our needs. 1429 01:10:09,199 --> 01:10:11,199 We're asking for what we need at this point. 1430 01:10:11,199 --> 01:10:14,119 But there's a lot of large projects out there that are 1431 01:10:14,119 --> 01:10:17,319 requiring several years of advanced planning in terms of 1432 01:10:17,319 --> 01:10:19,199 when we're issuing the debt. 1433 01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:21,399 So I think it's just always something you're pointing out 1434 01:10:21,399 --> 01:10:23,199 the volatility of funding, you're right. 1435 01:10:23,199 --> 01:10:25,970 And there's also some definite risks out there that are 1436 01:10:25,970 --> 01:10:28,779 high dollar ones that we just want to make sure everybody 1437 01:10:28,779 --> 01:10:30,199 is completely aware of. 1438 01:10:30,199 --> 01:10:32,199 >> Okay. 1439 01:10:32,199 --> 01:10:34,199 >> Any questions? 1440 01:10:34,199 --> 01:10:38,199 >> I have a question. Maybe I'm looking at this wrong. 1441 01:10:38,199 --> 01:10:44,800 But under option one on the budget, 2% rate decrease and we 1442 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:51,399 're showing plan, am I looking at this right, the revenue of 1443 01:10:51,399 --> 01:10:54,199 43.128? 1444 01:10:54,199 --> 01:10:57,199 >> The 2% is actually for fiscal year '19. 1445 01:10:57,199 --> 01:10:58,199 >> Okay. 1446 01:10:58,199 --> 01:11:04,199 >> Yeah. So the total revenue there is 44.9 million. 1447 01:11:04,199 --> 01:11:10,199 >> Okay. Versus the 45 if you had no rate change. 1448 01:11:10,199 --> 01:11:13,199 >> Yes, versus 45 and option two. 1449 01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:14,199 >> Okay. Thank you. 1450 01:11:14,199 --> 01:11:15,199 >> Yes, sir. 1451 01:11:15,199 --> 01:11:18,380 >> And I would just add to the questions that have been 1452 01:11:18,380 --> 01:11:20,199 asked about the decrease. 1453 01:11:20,199 --> 01:11:23,279 The other thing we're really trying to do is not add to the 1454 01:11:23,279 --> 01:11:24,199 debt burden. 1455 01:11:24,199 --> 01:11:29,039 It's very obvious in 2023, 2024, when that next expansion 1456 01:11:29,039 --> 01:11:32,739 becomes necessary to plan for it, you know, we're trying to 1457 01:11:32,739 --> 01:11:34,199 create some room. 1458 01:11:34,199 --> 01:11:36,399 So to the extent that we've got additional reserves right 1459 01:11:36,399 --> 01:11:38,199 now, we can pay for revenue funded capital. 1460 01:11:38,199 --> 01:11:39,199 We're doing that. 1461 01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:41,829 But we're very concerned about how can we retire as much 1462 01:11:41,829 --> 01:11:44,479 debt before we're going to have to, you know, bring on 1463 01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,199 additional debt for that next plan expansion. 1464 01:11:46,199 --> 01:11:52,199 So that really is driving most of our mindset right now. 1465 01:11:52,199 --> 01:11:54,649 >> I'll go ahead and ask Dr. Banks will come up here and he 1466 01:11:54,649 --> 01:11:57,060 'll walk you through kind of the departmental section of 1467 01:11:57,060 --> 01:11:58,199 this presentation. 1468 01:11:58,199 --> 01:11:59,199 Yes, ma'am. 1469 01:11:59,199 --> 01:12:04,409 >> I just wanted to say just to point out first that I 1470 01:12:04,409 --> 01:12:10,529 applaud the proposed rate decrease and it's good news to 1471 01:12:10,529 --> 01:12:15,199 hear about the reduction in per capita water usage. 1472 01:12:15,199 --> 01:12:19,470 And as you mentioned, you know, that part of the cause or 1473 01:12:19,470 --> 01:12:23,560 maybe most of it is due to just improvements in technology 1474 01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,199 that don't waste as much water. 1475 01:12:26,199 --> 01:12:31,119 But it's also the case that water has a rate structure that 1476 01:12:31,119 --> 01:12:36,010 encourages conservation by just by default, by having a 1477 01:12:36,010 --> 01:12:39,920 higher rate for commercial and a lower rate for residential 1478 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:40,199 . 1479 01:12:40,199 --> 01:12:44,750 And I have always liked that and I have always thought that 1480 01:12:44,750 --> 01:12:49,560 , you know, wanted to see that policy at least explored with 1481 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,199 our electric company as well. 1482 01:12:52,199 --> 01:12:56,460 I was wondering one question I had regarding that is, you 1483 01:12:56,460 --> 01:13:01,430 know, to your knowledge, have there ever been complaints 1484 01:13:01,430 --> 01:13:06,409 from commercial customers that, you know, what about why do 1485 01:13:06,409 --> 01:13:09,199 residents pay less than we do? 1486 01:13:09,199 --> 01:13:12,560 Not to my knowledge. I'm looking at Dr. Banks. No, not to 1487 01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:13,199 our knowledge. 1488 01:13:13,199 --> 01:13:17,460 Okay. Well, and that's that's wonderful to hear. So anyway, 1489 01:13:17,460 --> 01:13:18,199 thank you. 1490 01:13:18,199 --> 01:13:23,310 Morning board members, Kenny Banks, general manager of 1491 01:13:23,310 --> 01:13:28,750 utilities. I'm here to give the departmental presentation 1492 01:13:28,750 --> 01:13:34,470 component of the water utilities presentation. I appreciate 1493 01:13:34,470 --> 01:13:39,199 the opportunity to bring this information to you. 1494 01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:42,829 We'll talk a little bit about our accomplishments to start 1495 01:13:42,829 --> 01:13:47,029 out with for 1718. We started our five year update of the 1496 01:13:47,029 --> 01:13:49,199 water wastewater impact fees. 1497 01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:52,229 We're currently working with the capital improvements 1498 01:13:52,229 --> 01:13:55,390 advisory committee, which is a group that is put together 1499 01:13:55,390 --> 01:13:57,199 to review those impact fees. 1500 01:13:57,199 --> 01:14:00,689 Initially, we will be bringing those back to you later this 1501 01:14:00,689 --> 01:14:01,199 year. 1502 01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:04,729 We started the 25 year water distribution master plan. We 1503 01:14:04,729 --> 01:14:08,020 completed a preliminary design for solids handling for the 1504 01:14:08,020 --> 01:14:11,100 Louisville water treatment plant and we're moving into 1505 01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:12,199 final design. 1506 01:14:12,199 --> 01:14:16,010 Very important project for us. The solids handling there 1507 01:14:16,010 --> 01:14:19,770 has become a bit of a challenge and and this will allow us 1508 01:14:19,770 --> 01:14:23,869 to more effectively dewater the solids and will also help 1509 01:14:23,869 --> 01:14:26,199 out on the wastewater side as well. 1510 01:14:26,199 --> 01:14:31,199 We completed the Lake Louisville buoy installation project. 1511 01:14:31,199 --> 01:14:35,260 This is the buoy line that goes in on the what is known as 1512 01:14:35,260 --> 01:14:38,199 the party cove on Lake Louisville. 1513 01:14:38,199 --> 01:14:42,470 Basically where the intake structure is on right there by 1514 01:14:42,470 --> 01:14:44,199 the I 35 bridge. 1515 01:14:44,199 --> 01:14:48,199 We, I'm sorry. 1516 01:14:48,199 --> 01:14:53,130 We completed a chlorine boosting facility at the South 1517 01:14:53,130 --> 01:14:58,329 waste elevated storage tower. This is the storage tower 1518 01:14:58,329 --> 01:15:03,199 that is on the lively road that is supplying the Rose Ranch 1519 01:15:03,199 --> 01:15:04,199 community. 1520 01:15:04,199 --> 01:15:07,289 It's far out in the system and and bit of a challenge to 1521 01:15:07,289 --> 01:15:10,659 deal with with regards to turnover in the water at the tank 1522 01:15:10,659 --> 01:15:14,100 during certain times of the year or so an important project 1523 01:15:14,100 --> 01:15:17,319 to get get in there and and make sure the water quality is 1524 01:15:17,319 --> 01:15:21,199 as high as it could possibly be in that facility. 1525 01:15:21,199 --> 01:15:24,829 We did also complete our water distribution projects in 1526 01:15:24,829 --> 01:15:28,920 advance of the plan bond funded street reconstruction work. 1527 01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:32,010 This is a very important issue for both water and 1528 01:15:32,010 --> 01:15:36,020 wastewater to get in there, evaluate those lines, make sure 1529 01:15:36,020 --> 01:15:39,199 that if a street project is going in. 1530 01:15:39,199 --> 01:15:41,890 Those lines need to be replaced based on our asset 1531 01:15:41,890 --> 01:15:45,069 management or condition assessments. We want to get in 1532 01:15:45,069 --> 01:15:48,029 there and get those done as a part of that construction 1533 01:15:48,029 --> 01:15:51,199 process so that we are as cost effective as we can be. 1534 01:15:51,199 --> 01:15:55,960 And also, so we only disturb the neighborhood or inconven 1535 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,199 ience to citizens one time. 1536 01:15:58,199 --> 01:16:02,090 Some goals that we have coming up for the upcoming year is 1537 01:16:02,090 --> 01:16:06,069 to complete our five year update of our wastewater impact 1538 01:16:06,069 --> 01:16:10,430 fee study complete the 25 year water distribution master 1539 01:16:10,430 --> 01:16:11,199 plan. 1540 01:16:11,199 --> 01:16:14,140 We are currently in process of working on our 10 year 1541 01:16:14,140 --> 01:16:17,159 utility management study item was brought to you as a work 1542 01:16:17,159 --> 01:16:18,199 session item. 1543 01:16:18,199 --> 01:16:20,199 A few meetings back on that. 1544 01:16:20,199 --> 01:16:23,470 This is a charter requirement and we're actively working on 1545 01:16:23,470 --> 01:16:24,199 that now. 1546 01:16:24,199 --> 01:16:27,430 We're beginning construction of the Lake Louisville water 1547 01:16:27,430 --> 01:16:30,539 treatment plant phase two rehabilitation and the solids 1548 01:16:30,539 --> 01:16:34,010 handling projects so design was done last year we're moving 1549 01:16:34,010 --> 01:16:38,029 into the actual treatment, our actual implementation of 1550 01:16:38,029 --> 01:16:41,199 that treatment plant project. 1551 01:16:41,199 --> 01:16:44,729 This is a big project. It has a lot of moving parts. A lot 1552 01:16:44,729 --> 01:16:48,100 of it is related to our our switch gear and our pump motor 1553 01:16:48,100 --> 01:16:51,579 system that's out there that needs to be rehabilitated is 1554 01:16:51,579 --> 01:16:55,199 going to involve the construction of a of a new building 1555 01:16:55,199 --> 01:17:00,529 out there that will house our skater system and some of the 1556 01:17:00,529 --> 01:17:02,199 technology necessary to run the plant. 1557 01:17:02,199 --> 01:17:06,859 And then also it will involve some rehabilitation of some 1558 01:17:06,859 --> 01:17:11,500 of the treatment technologies there at the plant. We are 1559 01:17:11,500 --> 01:17:14,199 going to complete the Ray Roberts treatment plan and 1560 01:17:14,199 --> 01:17:17,050 equipment assessment move into final design for plant 1561 01:17:17,050 --> 01:17:18,199 rehabilitation. 1562 01:17:18,199 --> 01:17:23,920 As Tony mentioned earlier that that plant right now is a 20 1563 01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:29,510 million gallon per day plant. It's designed in four phases 1564 01:17:29,510 --> 01:17:34,119 it can go up to 100 M.G.D. and basically it's designed to 1565 01:17:34,119 --> 01:17:37,590 go 20 30 for the first phase and then 20 30 for the second 1566 01:17:37,590 --> 01:17:38,199 phase. 1567 01:17:38,199 --> 01:17:41,369 So as we move into the project of doing the 30 M.G.D. 1568 01:17:41,369 --> 01:17:44,329 expansion that's right on the outside of our five year CIP 1569 01:17:44,329 --> 01:17:47,270 right now we want to be sure that we have rehabilitated and 1570 01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:51,470 assess the 20 M.G.D. so it's in good shape prior to moving 1571 01:17:51,470 --> 01:17:53,199 into that 30 M.G.D. expansion. 1572 01:17:53,199 --> 01:17:56,770 So this is part of that project. We are implementing a 1573 01:17:56,770 --> 01:18:00,539 water info master program basically a computer assisted 1574 01:18:00,539 --> 01:18:04,460 decision making program for our water line infrastructure 1575 01:18:04,460 --> 01:18:08,029 replacements just to help us be even more efficient and 1576 01:18:08,029 --> 01:18:11,800 have a better understanding of our assets so that we can do 1577 01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,420 a better job coordinating with the streets department and 1578 01:18:14,420 --> 01:18:18,199 wastewater department on those service replacements. 1579 01:18:18,199 --> 01:18:22,060 So our budget emphasis is really about water system 1580 01:18:22,060 --> 01:18:25,460 reliability and sustainability. We want to be sure that our 1581 01:18:25,460 --> 01:18:28,039 we plan and implement for replacements of our aging 1582 01:18:28,039 --> 01:18:31,149 infrastructure around the city and then certainly plan and 1583 01:18:31,149 --> 01:18:34,470 implement our capital improvement programs to support the 1584 01:18:34,470 --> 01:18:37,199 community growth that we anticipate. 1585 01:18:37,199 --> 01:18:40,000 A couple of process improvements that we're we've 1586 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:43,380 implemented and some that we're looking at we've converted 1587 01:18:43,380 --> 01:18:46,109 from paper map books to digital systems for water 1588 01:18:46,109 --> 01:18:49,199 distribution which has made the infield work a lot more 1589 01:18:49,199 --> 01:18:50,199 effective. 1590 01:18:50,199 --> 01:18:55,039 We're more effectively integrating and using our geographic 1591 01:18:55,039 --> 01:18:59,340 information systems and our computer maintenance and 1592 01:18:59,340 --> 01:19:04,000 programs for software to basically plan and prioritize our 1593 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:08,770 water distribution line replacements and coordinate again 1594 01:19:08,770 --> 01:19:11,199 with the streets department. 1595 01:19:11,199 --> 01:19:14,510 It's all about trying to make that as quick as we possibly 1596 01:19:14,510 --> 01:19:17,789 can and as coordinated as possibly as we possibly can so 1597 01:19:17,789 --> 01:19:21,279 that we don't implement any delays throughout that entire 1598 01:19:21,279 --> 01:19:22,199 process. 1599 01:19:22,199 --> 01:19:24,819 So future process improvements are to improve our 1600 01:19:24,819 --> 01:19:27,829 efficiency and cost effectiveness on our water main line 1601 01:19:27,829 --> 01:19:30,890 replacements develop a permanent system for handling and 1602 01:19:30,890 --> 01:19:33,869 disposing of solids as I've said solids have become a bit 1603 01:19:33,869 --> 01:19:36,199 of a challenge at the Louisville plant. 1604 01:19:36,199 --> 01:19:39,010 We are currently using a temporary fix which is a large 1605 01:19:39,010 --> 01:19:42,029 pond system out there that allows the solids to settle and 1606 01:19:42,029 --> 01:19:44,199 then we decant the water off the top. 1607 01:19:44,199 --> 01:19:48,609 We need to move to a permanent solution of dewatering those 1608 01:19:48,609 --> 01:19:52,569 solids and then just continuing to improve our asset 1609 01:19:52,569 --> 01:19:54,199 management program. 1610 01:19:54,199 --> 01:19:56,199 Position summary real quick. 1611 01:19:56,199 --> 01:20:08,500 A couple of things about this. We have added two positions 1612 01:20:08,500 --> 01:20:11,340 basically a deputy director position for water wastewater 1613 01:20:11,340 --> 01:20:14,010 that's currently unfilled and we have consolidated the 1614 01:20:14,010 --> 01:20:16,430 water and wastewater crews under a single water and 1615 01:20:16,430 --> 01:20:19,199 wastewater superintendents so the water and wastewater 1616 01:20:19,199 --> 01:20:22,199 superintendent position is a new position. 1617 01:20:22,199 --> 01:20:26,460 So we've added those two and then we had a halftime admin 1618 01:20:26,460 --> 01:20:30,579 position that we actually removed from the budget so that's 1619 01:20:30,579 --> 01:20:36,420 the difference between the 102 and the 103.5 that you see 1620 01:20:36,420 --> 01:20:39,199 in the in this position summary. 1621 01:20:39,199 --> 01:20:48,029 A couple of other things that we've done kind of a small 1622 01:20:48,029 --> 01:20:56,340 version of what you saw with customer service. We have a 1623 01:20:56,340 --> 01:20:57,000 group called the field service technical group that had 1624 01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,199 employees that were co that were funded from both the water 1625 01:20:59,199 --> 01:21:02,199 fun and the wastewater fun. 1626 01:21:02,199 --> 01:21:05,840 The majority of that group resides in the wastewater funds 1627 01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:09,590 and what we've done is we've actually moved those positions 1628 01:21:09,590 --> 01:21:13,090 to be completely under the wastewater fun and then we're 1629 01:21:13,090 --> 01:21:16,670 going to handle the work that those positions do for water 1630 01:21:16,670 --> 01:21:18,199 simply by a transfer. 1631 01:21:18,199 --> 01:21:22,449 We are adding electronic tech to provide maintenance of the 1632 01:21:22,449 --> 01:21:26,069 new equipment that is related to the ozone system at Lake 1633 01:21:26,069 --> 01:21:27,199 Louisville. 1634 01:21:27,199 --> 01:21:31,470 We have a lot of instrumentation there chemical control 1635 01:21:31,470 --> 01:21:35,810 turbidity analyzers chlorine analyzers etc. So that 1636 01:21:35,810 --> 01:21:38,199 position is being added. 1637 01:21:38,199 --> 01:21:43,140 Five year capital improvement plan just to kind of hit the 1638 01:21:43,140 --> 01:21:45,199 highlights on this. 1639 01:21:45,199 --> 01:21:48,430 You will have a lot more detail when you get the full 1640 01:21:48,430 --> 01:21:52,029 budget books on this and one of the things that I wanted to 1641 01:21:52,029 --> 01:21:55,409 to point out on this is kind of how you work through the 1642 01:21:55,409 --> 01:21:58,199 five year CIP plan in the budget book. 1643 01:21:58,199 --> 01:22:02,750 So you'll notice over on the left hand side there are group 1644 01:22:02,750 --> 01:22:07,619 assignment numbers and then those assignments numbers have 1645 01:22:07,619 --> 01:22:12,100 a particular category associated with them. So those 1646 01:22:12,100 --> 01:22:16,319 categories are some in this five year CIP plan. But as you 1647 01:22:16,319 --> 01:22:18,770 go into the individual groups you can actually see detailed 1648 01:22:18,770 --> 01:22:21,199 sheets for each one of those in the full budget. 1649 01:22:21,199 --> 01:22:24,649 So when the full budget group book gets to you you'll be 1650 01:22:24,649 --> 01:22:28,340 able to go through the capital improvement section on a on 1651 01:22:28,340 --> 01:22:31,720 a home business unit basis and actually see each one of 1652 01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:35,199 these five year CIP plans by their group assignment number. 1653 01:22:35,199 --> 01:22:38,270 So it kind of helps you see what we're doing in each one of 1654 01:22:38,270 --> 01:22:42,170 the individual departments. We've got a very aggressive 1655 01:22:42,170 --> 01:22:46,199 plan as you can you can see a lot of moving parts there. 1656 01:22:46,199 --> 01:22:49,449 We've broken it out here in terms of the grand total and 1657 01:22:49,449 --> 01:22:52,489 the amount that we anticipate right now in terms of 1658 01:22:52,489 --> 01:22:56,199 required bond sales for each of the years going forward. 1659 01:22:56,199 --> 01:23:00,069 As Tony mentioned earlier we're going to continue to look 1660 01:23:00,069 --> 01:23:03,970 at our existing funding and of course always try to reduce 1661 01:23:03,970 --> 01:23:06,199 those bond sales when we can. 1662 01:23:06,199 --> 01:23:11,260 I asked Lori to include the group assignment numbers on 1663 01:23:11,260 --> 01:23:16,420 these major CIP projects that I've listed for you. So you 1664 01:23:16,420 --> 01:23:19,199 'll see the numbers over here to the to the side. 1665 01:23:19,199 --> 01:23:23,890 And basically these are some of our major projects that we 1666 01:23:23,890 --> 01:23:29,010 've got coming up with the associated timeline with each one 1667 01:23:29,010 --> 01:23:29,199 . 1668 01:23:29,199 --> 01:23:32,689 Just real quick the North South Phase 3 big project that we 1669 01:23:32,689 --> 01:23:35,989 've got going on about thirty nine hundred linear feet of 1670 01:23:35,989 --> 01:23:39,609 forty two inch transmission main along Bonnie Bray that 1671 01:23:39,609 --> 01:23:44,199 runs all the way from I-35 to scripture. 1672 01:23:44,199 --> 01:23:47,460 The all red system is one that we've had on the books for 1673 01:23:47,460 --> 01:23:51,319 quite for quite a while. It's a twenty four and thirty inch 1674 01:23:51,319 --> 01:23:53,199 water transmission line. 1675 01:23:53,199 --> 01:23:57,470 Design is anticipated to be completed by the middle of June 1676 01:23:57,470 --> 01:24:01,109 and right away acquisition completed by the end of 1677 01:24:01,109 --> 01:24:02,199 September. 1678 01:24:02,199 --> 01:24:05,199 We hope to move into construction by January of next year. 1679 01:24:05,199 --> 01:24:08,609 The solids handling we've we've talked about Ray Roberts 1680 01:24:08,609 --> 01:24:10,199 performance upgrade. 1681 01:24:10,199 --> 01:24:14,079 We've talked about basically getting that system in line in 1682 01:24:14,079 --> 01:24:16,199 anticipation of the expansion. 1683 01:24:16,199 --> 01:24:20,100 Basically the Riney Road Booster pump station is a pump 1684 01:24:20,100 --> 01:24:24,279 station that is needed for capacity to serve the North Dent 1685 01:24:24,279 --> 01:24:25,199 on area. 1686 01:24:25,199 --> 01:24:29,470 The raw transmission line to is part of our line assessment 1687 01:24:29,470 --> 01:24:33,470 for our big transmission assets that are moving from the 1688 01:24:33,470 --> 01:24:38,149 Lake Louisville pump station to the Spencer plant treatment 1689 01:24:38,149 --> 01:24:39,199 facility. 1690 01:24:39,199 --> 01:24:42,829 And so we're in process right now. We've completed the 1691 01:24:42,829 --> 01:24:46,199 first phase of repairs on the 30 inch line. 1692 01:24:46,199 --> 01:24:49,420 This is a dual line system a 30 inch and a twenty seven. We 1693 01:24:49,420 --> 01:24:54,850 will complete the 30 inch next year and then we will start 1694 01:24:54,850 --> 01:24:58,739 moving into the second phase of the project which is to 1695 01:24:58,739 --> 01:25:00,199 look at the twenty seven inch. 1696 01:25:00,199 --> 01:25:02,970 We're timing this because we have to be water those systems 1697 01:25:02,970 --> 01:25:05,689 . We've got to bring it back online during the summertime to 1698 01:25:05,689 --> 01:25:07,199 handle the irrigation needs. 1699 01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:16,479 Disinfection conversion for the raw water are the Ray 1700 01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:20,659 Roberts water treatment plant is basically to take a 1701 01:25:20,659 --> 01:25:25,010 convert a gas based system for your chlorine to a liquid 1702 01:25:25,010 --> 01:25:29,199 base much safer much easier to control. 1703 01:25:29,199 --> 01:25:33,060 And then we've got the design of Ray Roberts coming up get 1704 01:25:33,060 --> 01:25:36,659 the design out of the out of the way first for that nine 1705 01:25:36,659 --> 01:25:40,399 million dollars and then make our plans for when we're 1706 01:25:40,399 --> 01:25:44,189 going to actually implement the construction phase 1707 01:25:44,189 --> 01:25:47,670 condition assessment of the southwest and east side 1708 01:25:47,670 --> 01:25:49,199 transmission lines. 1709 01:25:49,199 --> 01:25:52,039 A lot of our transmission assets are are getting relatively 1710 01:25:52,039 --> 01:25:54,680 old and start with. So we're starting to take a look at 1711 01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,430 some of the larger ones and doing condition assessments to 1712 01:25:57,430 --> 01:26:00,199 see what shape they're in and then plan accordingly. 1713 01:26:00,199 --> 01:26:03,539 And then the Louisville Dam safety modifications are 1714 01:26:03,539 --> 01:26:07,170 basically just our payment to the Corps of Engineer for the 1715 01:26:07,170 --> 01:26:10,819 repair work that's going on for Louisville Dam big project 1716 01:26:10,819 --> 01:26:14,319 that's estimated at a 15 million dollar total we're 1717 01:26:14,319 --> 01:26:18,000 programming and three point seven five million on a yearly 1718 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,199 basis for the next four years. 1719 01:26:20,199 --> 01:26:24,060 I have provided a map in your presentation that goes 1720 01:26:24,060 --> 01:26:27,880 through each one of these major projects and got them 1721 01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:32,010 listed by the individual year color coded so you can kind 1722 01:26:32,010 --> 01:26:35,199 of match those up with the with the sheet. 1723 01:26:35,199 --> 01:26:39,960 And basically that's all I've got. So I'd be glad to answer 1724 01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,199 any questions. 1725 01:26:42,199 --> 01:26:45,199 I do have one more question. 1726 01:26:45,199 --> 01:26:49,460 I want to make sure if we do the 2 percent rate decrease 1727 01:26:49,460 --> 01:26:53,609 after 2023 we're not going to have to have a huge rate 1728 01:26:53,609 --> 01:26:58,199 increase because of these other projects that are at risk. 1729 01:26:58,199 --> 01:27:02,060 That is definitely something that we're looking at the 1730 01:27:02,060 --> 01:27:06,199 declining GPCD we're watching every year stepping forward. 1731 01:27:06,199 --> 01:27:12,000 And so the exact year in which that project is going to be 1732 01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:16,529 implemented is uncertain. We'll get more certain as we move 1733 01:27:16,529 --> 01:27:18,829 towards it. But yes there will be a large amount of debt 1734 01:27:18,829 --> 01:27:20,199 incurred to do that project. 1735 01:27:20,199 --> 01:27:23,619 It's going to be one of the biggest capital projects that 1736 01:27:23,619 --> 01:27:27,199 we've had since the actual construction of the plant. 1737 01:27:27,199 --> 01:27:35,699 And I guess the strategy is to hit debt or well we're 1738 01:27:35,699 --> 01:27:41,199 hitting revenue revenue funded capital. 1739 01:27:41,199 --> 01:27:45,199 This looks pretty heavy the next three or four years. 1740 01:27:45,199 --> 01:27:47,199 Versus debt. 1741 01:27:47,199 --> 01:27:57,199 And so I guess the strategy is to make room for the debt. 1742 01:27:57,199 --> 01:27:57,199 So there's not a need for it. 1743 01:27:57,199 --> 01:28:03,199 One thing you hate to do is give something. 1744 01:28:03,199 --> 01:28:06,560 Give do a rate decrease and have to come back five years 1745 01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:07,199 later. 1746 01:28:07,199 --> 01:28:11,470 As Susan said that's as long as the strategy is to make 1747 01:28:11,470 --> 01:28:15,899 room for that and looking back at our operating budget I 1748 01:28:15,899 --> 01:28:21,859 mean our debt service ratios seem to be in good shape to 2 1749 01:28:21,859 --> 01:28:24,199 plus over that time. 1750 01:28:24,199 --> 01:28:32,199 So that's seems to be a sound strategy. 1751 01:28:32,199 --> 01:28:34,810 Yeah we're we're definitely paying attention to it and I 1752 01:28:34,810 --> 01:28:37,539 keep going back to the risk mitigation risk and mitigation 1753 01:28:37,539 --> 01:28:40,430 and it's one of those things where this is our best plan 1754 01:28:40,430 --> 01:28:41,199 today. 1755 01:28:41,199 --> 01:28:44,199 And we'll continue watching how our reserves go. 1756 01:28:44,199 --> 01:28:47,930 You know how the revenues are affected and but yeah we're 1757 01:28:47,930 --> 01:28:50,680 trying to create as much room as we possibly can for the 1758 01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:51,199 debt. 1759 01:28:51,199 --> 01:28:54,699 So when we have good years we're investing in revenue 1760 01:28:54,699 --> 01:28:58,479 funded capital but as long as we're staying within those 1761 01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:02,409 bands that the P.B.A. Council sent with regard to reserves 1762 01:29:02,409 --> 01:29:04,199 we feel pretty good right now. 1763 01:29:04,199 --> 01:29:08,199 But there's still more analysis that needs to take place. 1764 01:29:08,199 --> 01:29:12,460 I think like I said with solid waste this isn't our money 1765 01:29:12,460 --> 01:29:15,779 this is the customer's money so we never want to be 1766 01:29:15,779 --> 01:29:19,869 charging more than we have to or keep more of their money 1767 01:29:19,869 --> 01:29:22,199 in reserves than we have to. 1768 01:29:22,199 --> 01:29:24,600 I just want to make sure we're not going to have to do 10 1769 01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:26,199 percent and 24 or something. 1770 01:29:26,199 --> 01:29:30,020 But I think it's sound as best as it can be for what we 1771 01:29:30,020 --> 01:29:31,199 know today. 1772 01:29:31,199 --> 01:29:39,850 I did notice on group 36 replacement of lines that ends in 1773 01:29:39,850 --> 01:29:43,460 2020 so there's no we don't we really don't think there's 1774 01:29:43,460 --> 01:29:46,199 any lines that need to be replaced after that. 1775 01:29:46,199 --> 01:29:50,470 Well yeah there will be but that that that we're loading up 1776 01:29:50,470 --> 01:29:54,489 heavy on the front end on that purpose to try to level that 1777 01:29:54,489 --> 01:29:55,199 out. 1778 01:29:55,199 --> 01:29:58,289 Is that part of the assessment the condition assessment 1779 01:29:58,289 --> 01:29:59,199 will tell us. 1780 01:29:59,199 --> 01:30:02,810 Yes on the on the transmission side we'll be able to have a 1781 01:30:02,810 --> 01:30:06,340 better handle on right now we've got a we've got a I think 1782 01:30:06,340 --> 01:30:10,380 a very healthy amount in for the 27 inch transmission line 1783 01:30:10,380 --> 01:30:14,199 the other transmission line assets. 1784 01:30:14,199 --> 01:30:18,069 I'm not as certain on but we'll have a much better sense of 1785 01:30:18,069 --> 01:30:22,199 where we're at after that condition assessments done. 1786 01:30:22,199 --> 01:30:23,199 Okay. 1787 01:30:23,199 --> 01:30:28,199 Other questions. 1788 01:30:28,199 --> 01:30:32,199 Thanks. Thanks. 1789 01:30:32,199 --> 01:30:33,199 Okay. 1790 01:30:33,199 --> 01:30:37,199 That concludes our work session. 1791 01:30:37,199 --> 01:30:40,199 We have. 1792 01:30:40,199 --> 01:30:43,199 We do have a closed. 1793 01:30:43,199 --> 01:30:47,199 We do need to go into a closed meeting. 1794 01:30:47,199 --> 01:30:50,199 Because we have an action item. 1795 01:30:50,199 --> 01:30:53,199 In open session when we come back so. 1796 01:30:53,199 --> 01:30:59,779 If this time would ask that we can be into a closed meeting 1797 01:30:59,779 --> 01:31:01,199 it's 10. 1798 01:31:01,199 --> 01:31:09,199 Okay we're back into our open open meeting at 1028 AM. 1799 01:31:09,199 --> 01:31:12,199 May the 7th. 1800 01:31:12,199 --> 01:31:15,199 2018. 1801 01:31:15,199 --> 01:31:18,199 First item we have under. 1802 01:31:18,199 --> 01:31:23,199 Individual consideration is to the draft minutes. 1803 01:31:23,199 --> 01:31:27,199 The public utility board meeting of April 23rd. 1804 01:31:27,199 --> 01:31:32,199 2018 or there any questions on these comments. 1805 01:31:32,199 --> 01:31:34,199 Corrections. 1806 01:31:34,199 --> 01:31:35,199 Yes, I. 1807 01:31:35,199 --> 01:31:39,199 There was the one vote that. 1808 01:31:39,199 --> 01:31:41,199 Where there was a. 1809 01:31:41,199 --> 01:31:43,199 Where I was the dissenting vote. 1810 01:31:43,199 --> 01:31:46,199 And I'm trying to bring this up right now. 1811 01:31:46,199 --> 01:31:48,199 I'm trying to bring this up right now. 1812 01:31:48,199 --> 01:31:52,199 And. 1813 01:31:52,199 --> 01:31:55,199 The reason for my dissent wasn't given. 1814 01:31:55,199 --> 01:31:57,199 The dissent wasn't explained. 1815 01:31:57,199 --> 01:31:58,199 And I think that, 1816 01:31:58,199 --> 01:32:00,000 and there may have been some other times where this was the 1817 01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:00,199 case and 1818 01:32:00,199 --> 01:32:01,199 I didn't. 1819 01:32:01,199 --> 01:32:03,199 Catch it. But I think in general. 1820 01:32:03,199 --> 01:32:09,199 When there's a dissenting opinion. 1821 01:32:09,199 --> 01:32:12,199 If the reason is stated by the dissenter that that, 1822 01:32:12,199 --> 01:32:14,199 that reason should be in the minutes. 1823 01:32:14,199 --> 01:32:17,199 And I think that's something that I would prefer to see. 1824 01:32:17,199 --> 01:32:21,199 Just something I prefer to see. So however. 1825 01:32:21,199 --> 01:32:25,199 However you want that to be worded. 1826 01:32:25,199 --> 01:32:28,199 I think. 1827 01:32:28,199 --> 01:32:31,199 I mean, in the item. 1828 01:32:31,199 --> 01:32:36,199 Perhaps under the comments. 1829 01:32:36,199 --> 01:32:38,199 When it's during the discussion of the item. 1830 01:32:38,199 --> 01:32:39,199 Those are recorded. So. 1831 01:32:39,199 --> 01:32:44,199 I think that's something that I would prefer to see. 1832 01:32:44,199 --> 01:32:46,479 And I did, I did state it. So I stated my reasons in the 1833 01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:47,199 recording. 1834 01:32:47,199 --> 01:32:50,199 This was about the. 1835 01:32:50,199 --> 01:32:52,199 This was the, with the redacted contract. 1836 01:32:52,199 --> 01:32:53,199 See the number. 1837 01:32:53,199 --> 01:32:54,199 That would be high to see. 1838 01:32:54,199 --> 01:32:59,199 Yeah. 1839 01:32:59,199 --> 01:33:00,199 Yes. 1840 01:33:00,199 --> 01:33:02,199 So did you just want to send some there? 1841 01:33:02,199 --> 01:33:03,199 Yeah, just. 1842 01:33:03,199 --> 01:33:05,199 Sentence in there for the reason. 1843 01:33:05,199 --> 01:33:08,199 For the reason. 1844 01:33:08,199 --> 01:33:09,199 That's the reason. 1845 01:33:09,199 --> 01:33:10,199 That's the reason. 1846 01:33:10,199 --> 01:33:11,199 That's the reason. 1847 01:33:11,199 --> 01:33:12,199 Yes. Exactly. Exactly. 1848 01:33:12,199 --> 01:33:13,199 Okay. 1849 01:33:13,199 --> 01:33:14,199 Yeah. 1850 01:33:14,199 --> 01:33:16,199 And that was stated on the record, but it. 1851 01:33:16,199 --> 01:33:18,199 And we can put it in the discussion. 1852 01:33:18,199 --> 01:33:19,199 Oh, exactly. Yeah. 1853 01:33:19,199 --> 01:33:20,199 I mean, obviously. 1854 01:33:20,199 --> 01:33:21,199 Okay. 1855 01:33:21,199 --> 01:33:22,199 Yes. 1856 01:33:22,199 --> 01:33:23,199 All right. 1857 01:33:23,199 --> 01:33:25,199 Yes. Yeah. 1858 01:33:25,199 --> 01:33:27,199 I voted, I voted against it because of all the, 1859 01:33:27,199 --> 01:33:28,199 because of all the redactions. 1860 01:33:28,199 --> 01:33:29,199 So yeah, just to. 1861 01:33:29,199 --> 01:33:30,199 And I'm. 1862 01:33:30,199 --> 01:33:31,199 Yeah. 1863 01:33:31,199 --> 01:33:34,199 Okay. 1864 01:33:34,199 --> 01:33:37,199 So with that correction on item C. 1865 01:33:37,199 --> 01:33:42,199 Corrections or that addition to item C. 1866 01:33:42,199 --> 01:33:45,689 If not, is there a motion then to approve the minutes with 1867 01:33:45,689 --> 01:33:48,199 that correction. 1868 01:33:48,199 --> 01:33:50,199 I move. 1869 01:33:50,199 --> 01:33:51,199 Have a motion. 1870 01:33:51,199 --> 01:33:53,199 And a second. 1871 01:33:53,199 --> 01:33:54,199 Any discussion? 1872 01:33:54,199 --> 01:33:55,199 All in favor say aye. 1873 01:33:55,199 --> 01:33:56,199 Aye. 1874 01:33:56,199 --> 01:33:57,199 Any opposed? 1875 01:33:57,199 --> 01:33:58,199 Okay. 1876 01:33:58,199 --> 01:34:00,199 Minutes are approved. 1877 01:34:00,199 --> 01:34:03,970 Next for individual consideration, we have item B, which is 1878 01:34:03,970 --> 01:34:06,199 to consider recommending adoption of an ordinance. 1879 01:34:06,199 --> 01:34:09,199 The city council of the city of Denton. 1880 01:34:09,199 --> 01:34:14,460 Providing for authorizing and approving the execution of by 1881 01:34:14,460 --> 01:34:17,869 the mayor of a power purchase agreement between the city of 1882 01:34:17,869 --> 01:34:21,199 Denton and blue bell solar to LLC. 1883 01:34:21,199 --> 01:34:24,579 Proving and authorizing the acceptance and approval by the 1884 01:34:24,579 --> 01:34:27,199 city manager or his respective designee. 1885 01:34:27,199 --> 01:34:30,689 Of guarantees and letters of credit issued by blue bell 1886 01:34:30,689 --> 01:34:34,199 solar to and next year energy capital holdings Inc. 1887 01:34:34,199 --> 01:34:37,199 Further securing. 1888 01:34:37,199 --> 01:34:43,199 The obligations of blue bell solar to to the city. 1889 01:34:43,199 --> 01:34:46,199 So. 1890 01:34:46,199 --> 01:34:49,199 I believe George. 1891 01:34:49,199 --> 01:34:52,199 Is going to lead us to this. 1892 01:34:52,199 --> 01:34:55,199 Good morning, George Morrill, general manager of DME. 1893 01:34:55,199 --> 01:34:58,770 It's a pleasure to be before you this morning to talk about 1894 01:34:58,770 --> 01:35:02,189 our recommendation for a new renewable power purchase 1895 01:35:02,189 --> 01:35:03,199 agreement. 1896 01:35:03,199 --> 01:35:07,199 The project's called the blue bell solar to project. 1897 01:35:07,199 --> 01:35:09,199 And a little bit of history and background. 1898 01:35:09,199 --> 01:35:12,699 The purchasing department here at the city, the city issued 1899 01:35:12,699 --> 01:35:15,850 an RFP for solar and wind energy back on back in June of 1900 01:35:15,850 --> 01:35:18,199 last year with bids due October 4. 1901 01:35:18,199 --> 01:35:22,199 And we were blessed with a lot of proposals. 1902 01:35:22,199 --> 01:35:26,090 You can see here in the presentation we had 41 separate 1903 01:35:26,090 --> 01:35:28,199 entities submit proposals. 1904 01:35:28,199 --> 01:35:32,060 89 different projects and when you looked at different 1905 01:35:32,060 --> 01:35:35,890 timing and sizes and locations, we came up with 846 1906 01:35:35,890 --> 01:35:38,199 separate little unique offers. 1907 01:35:38,199 --> 01:35:43,199 And we start dates ranging from mid 19 through 2021. 1908 01:35:43,199 --> 01:35:46,510 And so RFP was very clear what what we would look at was 1909 01:35:46,510 --> 01:35:50,189 four components for the evaluation price, of course, 1910 01:35:50,189 --> 01:35:53,449 location, which talks about how easy it is to get it back 1911 01:35:53,449 --> 01:35:54,199 to Denton. 1912 01:35:54,199 --> 01:35:57,409 Hourly production profile, which indicates how much energy 1913 01:35:57,409 --> 01:36:00,250 we're actually going to get from that plant and the past 1914 01:36:00,250 --> 01:36:01,199 performance. 1915 01:36:01,199 --> 01:36:06,199 And so I was also fortunate to be part of a big group of 1916 01:36:06,199 --> 01:36:10,199 with experts looking at this evaluation. 1917 01:36:10,199 --> 01:36:14,069 And we even had some outside council assist us with a fresh 1918 01:36:14,069 --> 01:36:15,199 pair of eyes. 1919 01:36:15,199 --> 01:36:18,630 And the recommendation was the one I'm bringing forward to 1920 01:36:18,630 --> 01:36:22,020 you today is the blue bell solar to project recommended by 1921 01:36:22,020 --> 01:36:23,199 next era proposed by next era. 1922 01:36:23,199 --> 01:36:27,199 Energy and a little bit of background about that project. 1923 01:36:27,199 --> 01:36:31,460 It's located in Sterling County, about 200 miles west of 1924 01:36:31,460 --> 01:36:37,010 the city, using solar photovoltaic technology with his with 1925 01:36:37,010 --> 01:36:39,199 crystalline solar cells. 1926 01:36:39,199 --> 01:36:42,979 The size is 100 megawatts. So pretty substantial project 1927 01:36:42,979 --> 01:36:46,069 for us and a 15 year term in service date by the end of 1928 01:36:46,069 --> 01:36:51,350 2020, which matches up well with city's policy to move 1929 01:36:51,350 --> 01:36:52,199 toward 100 percent renewable energy. 1930 01:36:52,199 --> 01:36:58,199 And that's a very competitive and fixed price for the term. 1931 01:36:58,199 --> 01:37:02,460 And which is standard these days in the in the proposals, I 1932 01:37:02,460 --> 01:37:06,199 think pretty much all our proposals were were that way. 1933 01:37:06,199 --> 01:37:09,050 And that's that's good for the good for the utilities, good 1934 01:37:09,050 --> 01:37:10,199 for our customers. 1935 01:37:10,199 --> 01:37:13,199 So I did mention there's a note on the bottom of the slide. 1936 01:37:13,199 --> 01:37:16,199 There's already a contract we have for blue bell solar one. 1937 01:37:16,199 --> 01:37:18,890 And perhaps that was why we were able to get such an 1938 01:37:18,890 --> 01:37:22,109 attractive offer is there's this would be layered on top of 1939 01:37:22,109 --> 01:37:24,199 that and using the same facility. 1940 01:37:24,199 --> 01:37:27,020 There's some economies of scale benefit for having the two 1941 01:37:27,020 --> 01:37:28,199 projects together. 1942 01:37:28,199 --> 01:37:32,199 And that one is scheduled to begin right now by November. 1943 01:37:32,199 --> 01:37:34,199 This year is the current timetable. 1944 01:37:34,199 --> 01:37:37,909 So we'll have our first 30 megawatts solar on the books 1945 01:37:37,909 --> 01:37:39,199 later this year. 1946 01:37:39,199 --> 01:37:43,470 So bringing forward that arrangement to you, there's a 1947 01:37:43,470 --> 01:37:48,199 staff report and a what I call a lightly redacted contract. 1948 01:37:48,199 --> 01:37:52,449 And why I want to compliment next era for working with us, 1949 01:37:52,449 --> 01:37:56,119 you know, city's policy to be as open and transparent as 1950 01:37:56,119 --> 01:37:57,199 possible. 1951 01:37:57,199 --> 01:38:00,460 I asked them to, you know, let's work on this in that 1952 01:38:00,460 --> 01:38:01,199 regard. 1953 01:38:01,199 --> 01:38:03,199 And they were very helpful and supportive. 1954 01:38:03,199 --> 01:38:10,050 So I did want to compliment them. So we're requesting the P 1955 01:38:10,050 --> 01:38:13,010 .B. consider recommending adoption of this new renewable 1956 01:38:13,010 --> 01:38:15,199 arrangement for 15 years of solar power. 1957 01:38:15,199 --> 01:38:19,199 And I'm here to answer any questions. 1958 01:38:19,199 --> 01:38:21,199 Questions. Yes. Yes. 1959 01:38:21,199 --> 01:38:23,199 I have a couple questions. 1960 01:38:23,199 --> 01:38:26,550 I wanted to ask if 100 percent of the power that will come 1961 01:38:26,550 --> 01:38:29,199 out of this contract will be provided by city. 1962 01:38:29,199 --> 01:38:33,510 And that there aren't any recs included or anything like 1963 01:38:33,510 --> 01:38:34,199 that. 1964 01:38:34,199 --> 01:38:36,199 No, you're totally correct. 1965 01:38:36,199 --> 01:38:40,199 This will be one of the sun solar contracts. 1966 01:38:40,199 --> 01:38:42,699 So when the sun is out and shining, we'll get solar energy 1967 01:38:42,699 --> 01:38:44,199 when it's not in the evenings. 1968 01:38:44,199 --> 01:38:46,909 Night times we'll get less or we won't get any depending on 1969 01:38:46,909 --> 01:38:48,199 the solar insulation. 1970 01:38:48,199 --> 01:38:52,090 So this one is not managed or in any way similar to other 1971 01:38:52,090 --> 01:38:56,130 arrangements that other people have had in which we've had 1972 01:38:56,130 --> 01:38:57,199 to do this. 1973 01:38:57,199 --> 01:39:02,199 So that's great. 1974 01:39:02,199 --> 01:39:04,199 I'd also like to ask. 1975 01:39:04,199 --> 01:39:08,859 So we're we're we're purchasing this power from Bluebell 1976 01:39:08,859 --> 01:39:12,199 who's setting up the solar facility. 1977 01:39:12,199 --> 01:39:17,199 Have we evaluated like we did with the energy center? 1978 01:39:17,199 --> 01:39:22,199 Have we evaluated building our own solar operation? 1979 01:39:22,199 --> 01:39:26,199 I mean, yes and no. 1980 01:39:26,199 --> 01:39:30,060 My experience over the years looking at these kinds of 1981 01:39:30,060 --> 01:39:35,470 projects requires a tremendous amount of of expertise and 1982 01:39:35,470 --> 01:39:40,319 specific to this type of development and program, you know, 1983 01:39:40,319 --> 01:39:44,199 identifying a site, obtaining and managing that site, 1984 01:39:44,199 --> 01:39:46,199 managing a project. 1985 01:39:46,199 --> 01:39:47,899 You know, there's lots of different components that go in 1986 01:39:47,899 --> 01:39:48,199 there. 1987 01:39:48,199 --> 01:39:50,909 For us, it would be a relatively modest economy of scale, 1988 01:39:50,909 --> 01:39:53,810 whereas a next era, for instance, they've got well, they're 1989 01:39:53,810 --> 01:39:56,640 probably the country's largest wind power producer and they 1990 01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:59,199 're moving higher up the chain in the solar side. 1991 01:39:59,199 --> 01:40:02,199 They're, you know, turning their head toward solar. 1992 01:40:02,199 --> 01:40:04,199 So they've got a lot of background economies. 1993 01:40:04,199 --> 01:40:07,340 They can mobilize bigger, you know, workforces that have 1994 01:40:07,340 --> 01:40:08,199 expertise. 1995 01:40:08,199 --> 01:40:12,069 So it would be difficult, extremely difficult for us to do 1996 01:40:12,069 --> 01:40:14,199 anything even close to this. 1997 01:40:14,199 --> 01:40:18,470 We'll mention if we were to do say a smaller solar project 1998 01:40:18,470 --> 01:40:21,689 locally, which has pros and cons, and there's some pros to 1999 01:40:21,689 --> 01:40:22,199 that. 2000 01:40:22,199 --> 01:40:25,350 You'd be looking probably just rule of thumb two to three 2001 01:40:25,350 --> 01:40:28,500 times as expensive as is what we think you might be able to 2002 01:40:28,500 --> 01:40:30,199 buy from the open market. 2003 01:40:30,199 --> 01:40:31,199 Okay. 2004 01:40:31,199 --> 01:40:32,199 On a utility scale. 2005 01:40:32,199 --> 01:40:33,199 Sure. Thank you. 2006 01:40:33,199 --> 01:40:37,199 Yes. 2007 01:40:37,199 --> 01:40:41,199 Other questions? 2008 01:40:41,199 --> 01:40:44,199 Sorry, sorry. 2009 01:40:44,199 --> 01:40:51,250 I'll just say that I'm really pleased that the company 2010 01:40:51,250 --> 01:40:55,920 agreed to essentially only redact the price and to make 2011 01:40:55,920 --> 01:41:01,199 everything else, or just about everything else transparent. 2012 01:41:01,199 --> 01:41:05,930 So, you know, we can show the ratepayers, we can tell them 2013 01:41:05,930 --> 01:41:10,289 that this is really the best deal, and even if we didn't 2014 01:41:10,289 --> 01:41:17,470 have 100% renewable goal, this is still really the cheapest 2015 01:41:17,470 --> 01:41:22,199 option on the market, and we got a really good deal on it. 2016 01:41:22,199 --> 01:41:25,199 And they can look at all the other terms of the contract. 2017 01:41:25,199 --> 01:41:29,069 So anyway, I thank you for working with them on that, and I 2018 01:41:29,069 --> 01:41:32,659 'm very pleased, and it makes me think very well of this 2019 01:41:32,659 --> 01:41:35,199 company that we're working with. 2020 01:41:35,199 --> 01:41:39,199 I think that's a good business partner. 2021 01:41:39,199 --> 01:41:42,819 So I just want to mention that for the public, and also to 2022 01:41:42,819 --> 01:41:45,199 thank staff for working on that. 2023 01:41:45,199 --> 01:41:47,199 All right. Thank you. 2024 01:41:47,199 --> 01:41:49,199 Okay. 2025 01:41:49,199 --> 01:41:51,199 Anything else? Motion? 2026 01:41:51,199 --> 01:41:54,199 I'd like to motion that we recommend this ordinance. 2027 01:41:54,199 --> 01:41:56,199 Okay, we have a motion. 2028 01:41:56,199 --> 01:41:58,199 Second, and a second. 2029 01:41:58,199 --> 01:42:00,199 Any discussion. 2030 01:42:00,199 --> 01:42:02,199 All in favor say aye. 2031 01:42:02,199 --> 01:42:05,199 Aye. Any opposed. 2032 01:42:05,199 --> 01:42:09,199 Very good. Thank you, George. Thank you very much. 2033 01:42:09,199 --> 01:42:11,199 Okay. 2034 01:42:11,199 --> 01:42:14,199 Next we have the ACM update. 2035 01:42:14,199 --> 01:42:17,100 Thank you, Mr. Chairman, members of the board. In your 2036 01:42:17,100 --> 01:42:19,729 packet, there are a couple of staff items here for your 2037 01:42:19,729 --> 01:42:22,079 review or questions if you have one of those is the 2038 01:42:22,079 --> 01:42:25,199 employee ethics policy that which was adopted by council. 2039 01:42:25,199 --> 01:42:28,350 Middle of last month, Cassie Ogden here is present to 2040 01:42:28,350 --> 01:42:31,699 answer any specific questions you may have. But in the 2041 01:42:31,699 --> 01:42:34,470 packet you have a summary of the policy and the actual 2042 01:42:34,470 --> 01:42:37,600 policy document itself that's been distributed to the city 2043 01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:38,199 staff. 2044 01:42:38,199 --> 01:42:41,989 The second item is a follow up on a water leak adjustment 2045 01:42:41,989 --> 01:42:46,140 memo, and Tiffany Thompson to hear to answer any questions 2046 01:42:46,140 --> 01:42:48,199 you may have about that item. 2047 01:42:48,199 --> 01:42:50,739 We have questions I know we had a lot of discussion last 2048 01:42:50,739 --> 01:42:51,199 time. 2049 01:42:51,199 --> 01:42:55,060 Well, I'd like to say that I act in an ethical manner 2050 01:42:55,060 --> 01:42:59,079 always, I wonder if any of the aspects of this policy 2051 01:42:59,079 --> 01:43:01,199 impact the pubs behavior. 2052 01:43:01,199 --> 01:43:04,699 The, the policy that council adopted last week will apply 2053 01:43:04,699 --> 01:43:08,039 to the PB members, as well as I think all of our boards and 2054 01:43:08,039 --> 01:43:12,869 commissions. So, staff is in the process of developing a 2055 01:43:12,869 --> 01:43:17,470 training program with our outside council, and I would 2056 01:43:17,470 --> 01:43:21,560 anticipate in probably by June, we'll be able to be in to 2057 01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:25,460 provide training to all the various commissions that they 2058 01:43:25,460 --> 01:43:27,199 're impacted by that new policy. 2059 01:43:27,199 --> 01:43:30,430 So, this is strictly the employee ethics policy which is a 2060 01:43:30,430 --> 01:43:33,539 little bit different from the councils but yeah we'll be 2061 01:43:33,539 --> 01:43:37,010 back to you in a month or 45 to 60 days at the latest to 2062 01:43:37,010 --> 01:43:38,199 provide training. 2063 01:43:38,199 --> 01:43:40,199 Okay, thank you. 2064 01:43:40,199 --> 01:43:42,199 Good. 2065 01:43:42,199 --> 01:43:48,920 I just wanted to thank Tiffany and staff for coming up with 2066 01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:55,510 the water adjustment policy and putting all that, that 2067 01:43:55,510 --> 01:43:58,039 together. I'm coming up with that document, and putting all 2068 01:43:58,039 --> 01:43:59,199 that together that that was really informative and helpful. 2069 01:43:59,199 --> 01:44:03,619 I was wondering is that somewhere on the website for the 2070 01:44:03,619 --> 01:44:08,510 for the, I mean, obviously, they can see it in the agenda, 2071 01:44:08,510 --> 01:44:12,720 but I mean, you know if you know people go to our water 2072 01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:17,699 department, and, and if not, is that would that be possible 2073 01:44:17,699 --> 01:44:18,199 . 2074 01:44:18,199 --> 01:44:23,479 I wonder what category, you know, but to put that if says 2075 01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:28,430 that somebody would know that there's a recourse to if 2076 01:44:28,430 --> 01:44:30,539 there's a leak. I will confirm that that it's on the 2077 01:44:30,539 --> 01:44:31,119 website I want to say that it is but I like to go back and 2078 01:44:31,119 --> 01:44:34,479 look where it's at because we've had some relocation of 2079 01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:36,789 items and so I want to make sure that I know where it's 2080 01:44:36,789 --> 01:44:39,199 been located but if it isn't, I'll make sure it's on there 2081 01:44:39,199 --> 01:44:40,199 this week. 2082 01:44:40,199 --> 01:44:55,369 Thank you. I know that in my experience I've actually had 2083 01:44:55,369 --> 01:44:55,609 to use this before, and the customer service representative 2084 01:44:55,609 --> 01:44:55,819 is the one who told me about it I mean instantly, they were 2085 01:44:55,819 --> 01:44:56,199 like, well, you can do this and we can adjust this bill so. 2086 01:44:56,199 --> 01:44:59,159 Yeah, it's usually initiated with the customer calling in, 2087 01:44:59,159 --> 01:45:02,069 because they are aware that they've experienced this excess 2088 01:45:02,069 --> 01:45:04,729 usage and then we go through what was it for because there 2089 01:45:04,729 --> 01:45:07,329 was a little bit of education piece with that but again I 2090 01:45:07,329 --> 01:45:10,279 will confirm that it's on our website that information, 2091 01:45:10,279 --> 01:45:11,199 thank you for the feedback. 2092 01:45:11,199 --> 01:45:13,199 Thanks. 2093 01:45:13,199 --> 01:45:15,199 Thank you. 2094 01:45:15,199 --> 01:45:18,569 And beyond that, there's really nothing further to report 2095 01:45:18,569 --> 01:45:21,750 just as a reminder to the board that the next meeting will 2096 01:45:21,750 --> 01:45:25,039 be on the 21st of May, because the following Monday is 2097 01:45:25,039 --> 01:45:27,590 Memorial Day. So, just as a note of reference and a 2098 01:45:27,590 --> 01:45:28,199 reminder. 2099 01:45:28,199 --> 01:45:30,199 Thank you. 2100 01:45:30,199 --> 01:45:34,199 Okay. 2101 01:45:34,199 --> 01:45:38,199 All right, let's see. 2102 01:45:38,199 --> 01:45:46,279 And we'll go ahead and do concluding items now, which 2103 01:45:46,279 --> 01:45:49,140 basically is to respond to inquiries from the public 2104 01:45:49,140 --> 01:45:52,090 utilities board or the public with specific factual 2105 01:45:52,090 --> 01:45:55,359 information or rest station policy or accept a proposal to 2106 01:45:55,359 --> 01:45:57,199 place the matter on the agenda for an upcoming 2107 01:45:57,199 --> 01:45:59,199 meeting. 2108 01:45:59,199 --> 01:46:03,199 We have anything to add to future agenda. 2109 01:46:03,199 --> 01:46:09,199 Yes, I'd like to repeat a request that I had made. 2110 01:46:09,199 --> 01:46:14,270 Pretty soon after I first got on the public utility board, 2111 01:46:14,270 --> 01:46:19,430 which, you know, now that we have a new general manager for 2112 01:46:19,430 --> 01:46:22,199 DME and new head of finance. 2113 01:46:22,199 --> 01:46:27,840 I think it would be a good time to revisit this, this, this 2114 01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:33,060 question and explore this possibility and that is the 2115 01:46:33,060 --> 01:46:38,470 question of why DME rates aren't structured like water 2116 01:46:38,470 --> 01:46:44,810 rates, whereby the for our water commercial users are 2117 01:46:44,810 --> 01:46:47,199 charged more and residential 2118 01:46:47,199 --> 01:46:52,180 users are charged less and obviously commercial users are 2119 01:46:52,180 --> 01:46:57,010 the big users and any residential user whether you live in 2120 01:46:57,010 --> 01:47:02,229 a mansion or an apartment is smaller user than, than the, 2121 01:47:02,229 --> 01:47:05,199 than the commercial account. 2122 01:47:05,199 --> 01:47:09,899 So, you know, that seems to be working really well with 2123 01:47:09,899 --> 01:47:15,100 with water. Obviously this water and electricity on the one 2124 01:47:15,100 --> 01:47:18,439 hand they're apples and oranges. But you know they're both 2125 01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:19,029 the service provided by utility service provided by by the 2126 01:47:19,029 --> 01:47:19,199 city. 2127 01:47:19,199 --> 01:47:23,649 And it encourages conservation and keeps residential rates 2128 01:47:23,649 --> 01:47:27,720 low at the same time and I was really interested to hear in 2129 01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:31,710 our, you know, just discussion and update on on water 2130 01:47:31,710 --> 01:47:36,199 budgeting that there haven't been commercial complaints 2131 01:47:36,199 --> 01:47:42,199 about the higher, you know, rates, rates for water. 2132 01:47:42,199 --> 01:47:45,369 That is to say you know commercial customers haven't been 2133 01:47:45,369 --> 01:47:48,479 complaining and lobbying to get you know why don't we get 2134 01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:51,199 the, the same rates that that residents do. 2135 01:47:51,199 --> 01:47:55,199 We may have some now, they're watching. So, yeah. 2136 01:47:55,199 --> 01:48:09,699 But, I mean, but, and I think they should know, you know, 2137 01:48:09,699 --> 01:48:13,420 it's there. So anyway, that's something that I mean I think 2138 01:48:13,420 --> 01:48:13,689 it would be helpful to at least explore that possibility 2139 01:48:13,689 --> 01:48:13,960 now that we've got, you know, some, some new brains on 2140 01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:17,199 board, and for us to hear what the pros and cons might be. 2141 01:48:17,199 --> 01:48:21,590 But I just think it's always good to, you know, question 2142 01:48:21,590 --> 01:48:25,890 the, this, this, this status quo on an issue like this 2143 01:48:25,890 --> 01:48:29,829 especially if there's a possibility of of lowering 2144 01:48:29,829 --> 01:48:32,199 residential rates even more. 2145 01:48:32,199 --> 01:48:37,199 How many agenda items was that. 2146 01:48:37,199 --> 01:48:41,619 I'm kidding. I just said, No, I know, I know going through 2147 01:48:41,619 --> 01:48:45,909 the budget, you know, we'll look at it and I think probably 2148 01:48:45,909 --> 01:48:49,760 , I don't know if in the budget or maybe it's a separate 2149 01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:53,779 agenda item where we look at cost of cost of service, and 2150 01:48:53,779 --> 01:48:58,199 what the rates are based on, it's cost of service and 2151 01:48:58,199 --> 01:49:02,739 obviously, you know, water is, there's an incentive and 2152 01:49:02,739 --> 01:49:06,199 water for conservative for conservation. 2153 01:49:06,199 --> 01:49:17,189 And it's, you know, the cost of service for a higher volume 2154 01:49:17,189 --> 01:49:19,199 is a lot more. 2155 01:49:19,199 --> 01:49:24,619 And it's not necessarily so on on electricity. I mean, I'm 2156 01:49:24,619 --> 01:49:29,859 just comparing apples oranges but I think that perhaps you 2157 01:49:29,859 --> 01:49:34,710 know maybe we look at looking at cost of service on both 2158 01:49:34,710 --> 01:49:36,199 utilities. 2159 01:49:36,199 --> 01:49:50,199 But at least we'll have a discussion about it. We'll be 2160 01:49:50,199 --> 01:49:50,199 ready. 2161 01:49:50,199 --> 01:50:08,199 Okay, any, any other comments, agenda items. 2162 01:50:08,199 --> 01:50:11,659 We will not be coming back into open session after that 2163 01:50:11,659 --> 01:50:15,520 will be adjourning out of the closed session since there'll 2164 01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:20,199 be no other action items.