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all the March 26 2018 public utility board meeting to order

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we have work

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session three items and work session to begin with so let's

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go ahead and get

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started on those

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just item a is going to be to receive a report and hold a

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discussion and give

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staff direction regarding the use of unbudgeted capital

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project funds for

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stormwater drainage projects so mr. chairman and pb members

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my name is Tony

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point I'm the director finance for the city thank you for

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having me tonight

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first of all let me just say that over the last several

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months really beginning

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back in August we had a lot of staff internal meetings to

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go over all the

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city's CIP programs including those that are geo funded and

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as a result of many

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of those discussions we were able to identify shortfalls as

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well as some

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savings and a number of other issues throughout the city's

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financial system

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that allowed us to aggregate dollars from projects they

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hadn't been so it

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hadn't been completed so there's just been a whole team

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effort over the last

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several months on that front and so so this particular item

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was one of those

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items that we were able to identify back in January of this

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year late January

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30th this year we did meet with the 2014 bond oversight

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committee to go over the

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specific projects that were included in the 2014 bond

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program we also included

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projects from the 2012 and even for the 2005 to make some

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recommendations to

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them regarding the funding for those projects and so what

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we're gonna I'm

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gonna go over to with you today will be specific to those

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drainage projects so

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what I want to cover real quick with you is the 2014 geo

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bond programs that are

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pertaining to drainage projects the shortfall and that we

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've identified in

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those projects so what it would take to get those projects

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fully completed and

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fully funded I'm gonna go through also as well through the

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history of the

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drainage division division and the associated drainage fee

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which is really

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where some of these proposed the proposal we're gonna make

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to you today

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where where the money is coming from to get these parts

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completed and then

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finally just go ahead and discuss with you just the status

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of where the money's

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coming from which is the channel rehab funds so the 2014

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bond program included

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a number of projects that are listed here I think many of

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those you're

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familiar with I will say that the pecan Creek drainage

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project is a project that

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we feel is fully funded and so there is no shortfall in

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that project there is

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so an associated project that not listed here for phase

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three and four of that

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project and we've identified funds previously with the

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council to fully

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fund that particular project thing the design work on that

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is an in in process

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this particular project is specific to pecan Creek phase

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phase two and that is

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located west of Locust to Prairie so again in identifying

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these projects with

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the bond oversight committee we found that these projects

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were there was a

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shortfall for mingo and a hinkle drainage as you know that

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was a major

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project that both the bond oversight committee and also the

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associated blue

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ribbon committee had identified we and we estimate that the

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shortfall for that

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project is approximately 1.9 million dollars the following

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three projects

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you'll see that Oak Street was not a project listed

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previously but we've

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aggregate we've put together we've combined these three

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projects and we've

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called them now the drainage downtown drainage projects

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felt that that was a

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an aspect of that of those projects that need to be

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completed as well and that's

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to some degree contributed to some of the shortfall but the

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shortfall for

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those three projects we've estimated at four hundred

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seventy thousand dollars the

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total shortfall that we want to discuss with you today is

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two point three

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almost two point four million dollars really quickly the

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drainage fee the

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drainage fee was adopted actually back in 2002 prior to

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that in 2001 the city

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had to recognize and adopt the municipal drainage utility

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system act in order to

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be able to to set that particular fee so that fee was

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established by ordinance

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2002 019 back in 2002 I will tell you that that fee and the

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associated

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schedule has not changed since 2002 that has remained and I

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've provided in your

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backup the establishing ordinance and that has continued

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through the 2017 rate

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ordinance that was adopted last year in conjunction with

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the city's budget and

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also with the with the wastewater fund in particular the

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intended use of those

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drainage dollars was to cover the O&M component of not just

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the drainage but

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also the watershed protection that was in existence at that

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time also associated

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general obligation debt that had been issued and was

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outstanding and also some

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additional debt that was subsequently issued after that

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time out of the

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wastewater fund as revenue bonds and so I'll be able to

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kind of walk you through

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any questions you have on that but I will tell you that

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this is the final

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year of debt service on the geo bond debt we anticipate

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that the remaining

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wastewater bonds are scheduled they're scheduled to be paid

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off in 2022 so what

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you've seen and the backup that I provided you you've seen

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a decrease in

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that annual debt service that has contributed to some of

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the money that's

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been transferred over to both capital projects and

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specifically to the channel

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rehab funds the other component as well is that over the

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years there's been some

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additional work that has that the watershed protection

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group has

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undertaken one of those is mosquito abatement those are

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those costs are

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allocated to the general fund so the general fund has

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actually increased his

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contribution to to that particular operation and that's

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also resulted in

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some of the additional revenue that has gone into our

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capital project program

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just really quickly approximately 5.5 million over the last

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10 years has been

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transferred to to this drainage channel rehab account 1.7

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million has been

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utilized in various drainage projects and as of February of

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this year we had

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approximately 4.1 million dollars that 4.1 million dollars

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in the 1718 CIP have

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not been budgeted there are a number of projects that staff

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is anticipating

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bringing forward to the PUB and also the City Council for

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consideration to be

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funded out of that 4.1 million but again we anticipate that

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that will continue to

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grow even beyond potentially those specific projects and so

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what we're

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proposing today for you is to to allocate 2.2 million or to

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authorize 2.2

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million from this drainage channel account that is unbudget

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ed to be utilized

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to fund the gap of those projects that were included 2014

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bond program again

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those are drainage projects we feel that they are very

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appropriate to be to be

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funded from this particular source and again we don't

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anticipate that using

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these funds in this particular manner will have any

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negative impact on any

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anticipated projects to be brought forward to you for the

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2019 and 2020 CIP

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program so just in just in wrapping up we're requesting the

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use of 2.2 million

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dollars from the drainage rehab fund to be used on these

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particular projects

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that will be included in a wider budget amendment that we

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're anticipating to

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bring forward to the council tomorrow that we identify a

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number of other

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funding sources for a number of other projects beyond these

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drainage projects

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for council's consideration and so we did want to let you

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know we did not bring

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that budget amendment to you as an individual item because

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it'll be

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included in a much wider budget amendment so that really

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kind of wraps up my my

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presentation to you be happy to answer any questions I know

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we have some folks

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here from from drainage as well so if you have specific

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questions about those

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projects be happy to go through that with you.

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What accounts for the shortfall in the Magnolia Hinkle

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drainage project that's

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a significant shortfall? Chad let me ask Chad he's our

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drainage engineer.

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I'm I'm Chad Allen I'm the deputy city engineer I think it

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's it was listed in

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the AIS there's increased construction costs over the years

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we're seeing very

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high construction costs more than 10% a year inflation on

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construction costs and

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when that budget was originally put together they did not

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foresee that also

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I think previously when establishing those budgets we might

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not have been

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conservative enough as we should have been so we might not

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have used higher

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contingency numbers as high as we should we might we may

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not have included that

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all aspects of the project like design or inspection so we

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're much better

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nowadays about trying to predict when we're going to go to

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construction and

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then escalating our costs up to that date and that might

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not have been done so

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well in the past. Okay thank you. Well I want to follow up

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on that is a lot of

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concrete in here is that because is that the main material

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that you're using for

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these drainage projects because I know that's just yes

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there's a shortage well

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it's not really street concrete that's not really shown on

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the AIS and the

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numbers you're looking at but there's big concrete box cul

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verts that are putting

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into Hinkle and all of that storm drain cost has increased

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like it's like we

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said we've been seeing 10 to 12 percent a year over the

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last three to five years

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so and the original estimate was put together what year?

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Approximately? Not so sure about that. Between 2010 and

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2012. Okay all right all right thank you.

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Was it a completion time problem? I mean so if it was

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budgeted or bid or

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estimated in 2012 and approved in a 2014 bond and here it

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is 2018 it's not done

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so is that that's definitely a part of it. I think that's

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fair and one of the

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things that we've done over the last six or eight months is

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go back all the way

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to the 2005 bond package cleaned out all those projects as

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well as everything in

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2012-14 lifted them up on the spreadsheets in trying to

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balance the

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remaining bond programs I think we're there on 99% of the

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programs now but

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you're absolutely correct the time value of money is

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definitely been a

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major obstacle for us and so a couple of things that we're

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doing at this point is

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making sure that we're trying to get up to a point where we

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've got plans on the

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shelf before we meet with the bond committees in the future

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and we've also

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just recently gone through a pretty exhaustive RFQ process

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where we've

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pre-qualified a number of engineering firms within seven

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different areas so

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we're able to get these projects designed and on the street

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quickly and

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not lose that 1% cost that we're seeing every month in the

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escalation of these

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projects. Okay and so you feel like those changes will help

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us complete the

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project with these additional budgeted funds in a time

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where we won't have to

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come back and ask for more? I mean it's your question is

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right on in terms of

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having these projects you know estimated and then waiting

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four or five six years

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to get them constructed you know they've got to go back to

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re-engineer

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everything make sure the designs are up to speed and with

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the construction

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estimate the cost that we're seeing escalating right now

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many of our

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projects have been you know several hundred thousand

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dollars short plus so I

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do think that the improvements that Chad and Todd Estes our

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city engineer

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working on are gonna have a major impact moving forward.

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Thank you. Other questions?

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This is for Tony I guess. So the drainage fees that we see

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on our utility

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bill have been funding this account that this money is

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going coming out of is that

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correct? That's correct. And I notice you said there's no

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impact on 2019-2020

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capital improvement programs for drainage what about

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because we normally

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look five years out on that is that do we anticipate other

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debt are we gonna

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have enough money to fund these out of fees going forward

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do you think? Well I

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think that you know there's certainly some opportunities

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here now with with

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this capacity to potentially fund some additional bond

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issues if we wanted to

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do that and maybe get some of these additional projects out

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the door

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certainly I think over the next couple of months we'll be

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having those

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discussions coming back to you with a recommendation in

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that area in

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conjunction with the wastewater budget.

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Okay I guess at some point in time we'll determine if we've

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done all the all the

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drainage projects and wastewater projects we need that day

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ever comes I

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don't know. Pretty staggering numbers. Yeah you know at

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some point in time I

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know this was when this was in act put in place in 2002 I

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know it was kind of

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first time it ever been done so it's not first of all it's

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nice to see that it's

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actually going towards projects as opposed to debt service

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that's that's

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good to see so hopefully these things can be we can manage

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it where there's a

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lot of revenue funded projects in the future for these

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things. Any other

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questions comments? So Mr. Chairman we are asking for for

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direction from the PUB to

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move forward again we are planning to have this same

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discussion with the City

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Council tomorrow night not just specific to these drainage

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projects but all the

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projects that are included in the in the bond program. Okay

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so everybody

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understand the request? Do we need a motion? It's not

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actually an action item.

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It's not an action motion you just need direction. I'm

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comfortable in using those funds to finish these projects.

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Me too. All right I think you've you've got our all the

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head nods. Thank you.

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Okay item B is to receive a report, hold a discussion and

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give staff direction

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regarding a proposed rate reduction for residential solid

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waste customers. So Mr.

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Chairman and members of the PUB a lot of good news tonight

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for you. First of all

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before I begin I do want to acknowledge you know all the

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hard work that our

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staff at the solid waste department have done over the last

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several months in

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particular you know Mr. Ethan Cox is our director over that

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area and also you know

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Dr. Kenny Banks both as well as a number of financial staff

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members that have been

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involved throughout that process have been doing a lot of

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work. You've seen

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over the last several months a number of items that have

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come through you to you.

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Changes that we've made to specifically the capital

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improvement program but also

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some operating changes as well. I think all of that has

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been a culmination in

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getting us to where we are today and and the recommendation

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that we want to

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discuss with you this evening. So just really quickly you

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know our

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recommendation to you will be to decrease the residential

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rates an amount

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of 12%. They're listed there for you you can see that both

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the standard and large

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carts will be reduced by that amount and just request that

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come in. We anticipate

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that that if approved tomorrow by the City Council tonight

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by you and tomorrow

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by the City Council that that will go into effect for those

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for those meters

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that are actually rare actually for the billings that go

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out on the 28th of

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March so those will be kind of the first cycle we call

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cycle 19. So the bills that

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are due April 1st will be the bills that will actually have

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that reduced rate. Just

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really quickly for a standard cart if you know if this is

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approved and goes

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into effect we anticipate about a $20 savings in total for

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that six six month

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period. That's about $40 per year on a standard cart. If

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you're on a large cart

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service that's going to be about 23 almost $24 over that

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six month period or

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about $47 almost $48 that our residential customers will

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see. And again

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that will be an immediate impact. So I do want to cover

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with you some of the

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staff efforts that have gone on that resulted in this

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recommendation today as

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well as changes to our capital plan and debt service. What

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that means for the

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particular funds reserves and working capital and what the

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budget impact will

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be for this for the rest this year for 17-18. Finally we'll

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cover just cover

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quickly some next steps and also just what the general

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impact is of this of

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this rate decrease in the context of our of our projections

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. So speaking about

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staff efforts over the last several months so we've done a

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business unit

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realignment in preparation for a new management study and

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also cost of

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service. We'll talk a little bit more about that with you

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to just better align

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what those service streams and revenues are as well as the

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expenditure

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expenditures. We've revised a capital program and and also

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the budget process

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and so there's a multi-step review through the department

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that was a

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recommendation if you remember from one of the consultants

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we're trying to make

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sure that our staff out there are involved and engaged in

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the review of

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programs and costs that are happening out in the solid

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waste department so that

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so that we can appropriately vet those programs and efforts

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that may be going

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on. I want to make sure that we strengthen our business

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case and

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financial analysis that goes on with this particular

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programs one of the

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changes that was made recently this was before mr. Springer

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left all the

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finance all the finance individuals staff members that are

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in the utilities

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now report to the city's director finance and so there is

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that additional

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layer and oversight that really hadn't been there

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previously. Again we continue

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to work very closely with with our staff members in the

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operating department but

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many of those discussions happen in tandem with our finance

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group as well.

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So for the CIP over the next five years that's CIP and you

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'll see that coming to

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you as well as part of the proposed budget for you when we

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come back to you

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we've been able to reduce that over the five years by 12.2

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million dollars.

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There's a number of projects one of those projects that

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comes to mind is the

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mining project if you remember that project was discontin

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ued and so that

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contributes to this 2.2 million dollars. In addition these

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changes

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have resulted in no debt issuances for 17-18 for the

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current year or 18-19 and

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so there's associated annual debt service savings from that

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that are now

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being stripped out of the financial forecast for that

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particular fund. So the

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reduced debt service expense over the next six years we

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anticipate that that

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would be 13.4 million dollars based on what we know today

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and what's being

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planned and what will come forward to you and you can see

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that over that that

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time horizon that I've listed up here where those savings

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are and what those

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in those years and so those are associated reduced debt

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services that's

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the annual debt service. So again this is an immediate rate

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decrease you see right

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here on the right hand side my left your right that we

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think that this reduction

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this total percent reduction still keeps this fund very

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very healthy. We have

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minimum fund balance requirements of 14 percent of budget

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expenses and a

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maximum of 18 and we're well above those those reserves

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even even today. Again

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we'll be coming back to you with some additional

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recommendations in the near

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future. So the growth in reserves is due to decrease debt

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service again you go

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had already echoed that for you. There'll be some

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additional savings from some

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operating changes that we're making certainly as we get

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back our cost of

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service and our management study there may be some

00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:01.799
additional changes as well

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that they have O&M impacts for that particular fund. So

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just here just side

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by side we've provided to you what the adopted budget was

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when it was adopted

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at the end of last year and then what the what we currently

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project would be

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that particular budget or what we anticipate spending at

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the year of eight

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fiscal year 17-18. You'll see that we do as a result of

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some of the changes that

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we've made in the capital program in particular the mining

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we didn't just

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strip out those related expenses but there were also some

00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:37.640
assumptions on

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revenues that we've also had to pull out and so that so

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there's been changes on

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both sides of this equation and then the total expenses

00:22:46.319 --> 00:22:47.759
have been reduced by about

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four point three million dollars again we anticipate some

00:22:52.450 --> 00:22:53.759
drawdown in in that

00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:57.509
fund balance but again staying well above the even the 18

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percent maximum

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that set for that particular fund. This 12 percent

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translates to approximately a

00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:09.559
six hundred thousand dollar revenue so about 1.2 million

00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:11.160
full years that's six

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hundred thousand for if it was implemented now mid-year.

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Some financial

00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:20.700
considerations that we just wanted to pose to you that we

00:23:20.700 --> 00:23:21.400
've discussed

00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:24.440
internally and just let me just quickly say to you that

00:23:24.440 --> 00:23:25.720
this we believe that

00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:29.519
this is a first step in in in the recommendation that we're

00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:30.359
bringing to

00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:33.390
you we anticipate over the next three to four months when

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we come back to you the

00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:38.279
possibility of some additional rate reductions potentially

00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:38.720
both in

00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:43.269
residential but also in some of our other classes. So in

00:23:43.269 --> 00:23:44.839
doing this 12 percent

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reduction again major consideration is to make sure that we

00:23:47.619 --> 00:23:48.559
're staying within

00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:52.359
those reserve targets of 14 to 18 percent. We also wanted

00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:53.359
to make sure that

00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:57.450
we safeguarded that fund we do have our wholesale revenue

00:23:57.450 --> 00:23:58.559
that makes about two

00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:02.420
million dollars we want to make sure that we that that we

00:24:02.420 --> 00:24:03.279
have a better

00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:07.250
understanding through our cost of service of what potential

00:24:07.250 --> 00:24:08.480
impacts could

00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:11.750
come to that particular source again two point two million

00:24:11.750 --> 00:24:12.559
dollars is a

00:24:12.559 --> 00:24:17.500
significant amount for that fund and then finally we've not

00:24:17.500 --> 00:24:18.319
made any

00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:21.339
recommendations to you today regarding commercial rates we

00:24:21.339 --> 00:24:22.599
do anticipate that

00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:25.359
there may be some changes there as well it's the largest

00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:26.559
revenue stream for that

00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:29.349
particular fund and so we want to be cognizant of the fact

00:24:29.349 --> 00:24:30.160
that that we're

00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:33.529
providing to you a conservative reduction today and and

00:24:33.529 --> 00:24:34.440
come back to you

00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:37.589
with a much more in-depth discussion about rates in total

00:24:37.589 --> 00:24:38.599
once we have more

00:24:38.599 --> 00:24:41.970
information from our cost of service and also our

00:24:41.970 --> 00:24:45.240
management study. So next steps

00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:49.480
is again we'll staff will be reviewing this management

00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:51.799
study in addition to

00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:54.819
that we'll be conducting a market study for all our rates

00:24:54.819 --> 00:24:55.599
to make sure we

00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:58.619
understand what we're able to do with those rates in

00:24:58.619 --> 00:25:00.279
particular wholesale and

00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:04.240
some of these large commercial rates that we have and then

00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:05.440
finally we'll be

00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:07.859
bringing back to you as part of the proposed budget

00:25:07.859 --> 00:25:09.039
potential additional

00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:12.789
rate decreases associated with with all these efforts we

00:25:12.789 --> 00:25:14.079
anticipate that first

00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:17.369
presentation to be for the PAB and the council be in early

00:25:17.369 --> 00:25:18.880
summer so you know

00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:24.640
we're just around the corner. You know council members of

00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:26.160
the PAB that's that

00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:28.930
wraps up my presentation I've covered a lot I'd be happy to

00:25:28.930 --> 00:25:30.000
stand for any

00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:33.019
questions again we have Ethan Cox here and if there's any

00:25:33.019 --> 00:25:34.079
specific questions on

00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:37.099
that operation we'll be able to provide those responses to

00:25:37.099 --> 00:25:39.119
you. I don't have a

00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:42.369
question but I have a comment I applaud you for going

00:25:42.369 --> 00:25:43.640
through and doing cost

00:25:43.640 --> 00:25:47.759
reductions and saying to have a rate decrease now not

00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:49.440
waiting until next year

00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:52.809
because it's our citizens money and it's not our money so I

00:25:52.809 --> 00:25:54.039
applaud you for doing

00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:56.160
that.

00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:05.000
Questions? I mean I'll second that. That's pretty

00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:06.640
incredible I mean 12%

00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:12.720
decrease in rates is pretty incredible to find that kind of

00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:13.720
operating

00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:17.710
efficiency and that's that you're gonna be applauded for

00:26:17.710 --> 00:26:20.920
that so and I'm gonna

00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:24.450
I'm gonna hold you to it that there's more reductions to

00:26:24.450 --> 00:26:26.279
come right? I guess I

00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:29.319
do have a question you didn't reduce it even more because

00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:31.240
the reserves are like

00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:35.539
you said significantly above the 18% but I think that's pr

00:26:35.539 --> 00:26:36.640
udent because you're

00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:39.390
you're going through this whole commercial review too and

00:26:39.390 --> 00:26:39.880
then once

00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:42.630
you're done with that I think we'll have a more

00:26:42.630 --> 00:26:45.400
comprehensive picture to then

00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:48.519
tighten that up even a little bit better too. Yes ma'am

00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:50.359
that is the plan. Thank you.

00:26:50.359 --> 00:26:57.200
Any other questions? So you're I guess you're basing some

00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:57.960
of the future

00:26:57.960 --> 00:27:00.650
reductions on that the cost of service study for the

00:27:00.650 --> 00:27:02.160
commercial rates will come

00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:05.799
in and we will be able to reduce those as well I mean you

00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:06.960
're not foreseeing

00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:10.500
that we're undercharging them and somehow we won't be able

00:27:10.500 --> 00:27:11.400
to offer that

00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:16.759
reduction to our residential. Yeah our preliminary review

00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:18.519
of those rates is

00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:23.660
that there is opportunities to potentially lower those as

00:27:23.660 --> 00:27:24.119
well.

00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:31.440
Very good. I don't think anybody's gonna be against

00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:34.799
reducing rates. Well and just

00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:37.819
let me say to you Mr. Chairman that we do have you know

00:27:37.819 --> 00:27:38.759
this particular

00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:42.579
discussion as well with the City Council tomorrow there is

00:27:42.579 --> 00:27:44.000
a an agenda item for

00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:49.799
you tonight in individual consideration to amend the

00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:50.759
current rate ordinance

00:27:50.759 --> 00:27:57.079
and reflect these particular reductions now. Good very good

00:27:57.079 --> 00:27:58.559
. Thank you Tony.

00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:05.839
Appreciate it. Okay item C is to receive a report, hold a

00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:06.599
discussion and give

00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:10.809
staff direction regarding current city facilities and how

00:28:10.809 --> 00:28:12.079
to proceed with

00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:15.099
planning for future space needs regarding the Denton

00:28:15.099 --> 00:28:15.960
Service Center

00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:20.579
traffic operations building and storage facility located at

00:28:20.579 --> 00:28:22.839
651 Mayhill Road.

00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.289
Thank you Mr. Chairman, members of the PUB Mario Kanazaris,

00:28:26.289 --> 00:28:27.480
assistant city manager.

00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.220
I wanted to present some information to you that was given

00:28:30.220 --> 00:28:31.200
to City Council back

00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:34.650
in mid February about some existing space needs that we had

00:28:34.650 --> 00:28:35.440
our service

00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:39.250
center along with our transportation operations building

00:28:39.250 --> 00:28:40.359
and some solutions

00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:44.390
that we were proposing to utilize to help offset some of

00:28:44.390 --> 00:28:45.640
those space needs

00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:49.069
and the reason we're bringing it to to the PUB is because

00:28:49.069 --> 00:28:50.039
it does affect

00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:52.559
utility operations along with solid waste and so I'm going

00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:53.240
to go through a

00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:55.799
number of slides and let you see what we're proposing and

00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:56.680
the assumptions

00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:00.740
behind those proposals. So to give you a brief overview

00:29:00.740 --> 00:29:02.240
with the presentation just

00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:05.279
to give you some history of why we're here some of the

00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:06.559
issues that were being

00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:09.039
addressed again the space needs that we have in our

00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:10.400
operations at the service

00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:13.730
center and also at traffic operations. The assumptions that

00:29:13.730 --> 00:29:14.279
were used

00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:19.039
originally through our previous analysis, some of the

00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:19.799
options that we're

00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:22.490
utilizing to solve some of the issues that are being

00:29:22.490 --> 00:29:24.079
presented, the financial

00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:27.539
implications and Mr. Puente is here to to be able to answer

00:29:27.539 --> 00:29:28.079
some of the

00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:31.799
specifics if the PUB has those questions and then what we

00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:32.599
believe will help

00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:36.319
improve our overall overall operations along with customer

00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:37.559
service that it

00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.740
affects our community and our constituents and then some

00:29:41.740 --> 00:29:42.559
next steps.

00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:46.119
To give you an overview of the service center campus I've

00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:47.000
outlined here in

00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:51.559
yellow the campus itself is approximately 46 acres in size

00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:52.599
it's an

00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:56.210
industrial area off at Mingo Road I believe the PUB before

00:29:56.210 --> 00:29:56.640
before I started

00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.890
with the organization I had its meetings over there so you

00:29:59.890 --> 00:30:00.920
should be relatively

00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:06.700
familiar with with this building and and then the overall

00:30:06.700 --> 00:30:07.480
campus.

00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:11.289
Procurement materials management is housed there our fleet

00:30:11.289 --> 00:30:11.960
services

00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:15.950
operations are housed there we also have a number of areas

00:30:15.950 --> 00:30:17.279
where we continue we

00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:20.720
where we house our our fill and dirt materials so that can

00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:21.759
be utilized for

00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:24.880
our drainage and our street operations so again just to

00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:26.119
keep kind of give you

00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:29.930
an overview of the location which we're talking about the

00:30:29.930 --> 00:30:31.079
two areas the two

00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:33.029
buildings that we're covering this evening and it was

00:30:33.029 --> 00:30:33.759
covered with City

00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:36.779
Council was the the the first one we're going to be

00:30:36.779 --> 00:30:38.799
covering is a service center

00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:43.900
here in the on the I guess your top top left my right here

00:30:43.900 --> 00:30:45.559
on the screen on the

00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:48.069
on the left side and then the traffic operations here on

00:30:48.069 --> 00:30:49.039
the opposite side of

00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:53.000
of the screen there and again to give you some history the

00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:54.240
service center was

00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:58.880
built back in 1980 the traffic operations was the building

00:30:58.880 --> 00:30:59.400
itself was

00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:03.950
built in the 60s over time the the service center has been

00:31:03.950 --> 00:31:04.559
renovated or

00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:08.009
expanded slightly over the last number of years to give you

00:31:08.009 --> 00:31:09.079
some statistics

00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:11.809
about the city of Denton it was much smaller back then back

00:31:11.809 --> 00:31:13.000
in 1980 when it

00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:16.019
was constructed and as you can see the sizes of our

00:31:16.019 --> 00:31:17.240
community now and it's

00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:21.210
certainly much larger these numbers were from 2016 and as

00:31:21.210 --> 00:31:22.240
you can also see just

00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:24.440
the amount of square mileage that the city has expanded

00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:25.720
over the years we we've

00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:29.569
expanded three three times the size of our community since

00:31:29.569 --> 00:31:30.440
this facility was

00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.819
opened and then the most glaring issue is a fact that back

00:31:33.819 --> 00:31:35.319
in 1980 we house a

00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:38.130
little over a hundred employees and now we're certainly

00:31:38.130 --> 00:31:39.599
double that 250 somewhat

00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:43.700
employees now are our house there and and I would imagine

00:31:43.700 --> 00:31:44.839
that as during

00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:47.200
seasonal activity or during the summer months there's

00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:48.039
probably additional

00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:50.710
employees there especially at the parks department because

00:31:50.710 --> 00:31:51.440
of the amount of

00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:54.690
activities happening in and around the summer months of the

00:31:54.690 --> 00:31:58.359
calendar year the

00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:00.859
first facility wanted to cover was a service center as

00:32:00.859 --> 00:32:02.039
again I was mentioned

00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:05.410
it was built in 1980 it's been updated over the last number

00:32:05.410 --> 00:32:07.440
of years 250

00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:12.039
employees operate from that location it's very cramped

00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:13.160
there's no room for

00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:17.190
growth in existing configuration it's somewhat poorly

00:32:17.190 --> 00:32:18.759
configured you all

00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:21.589
familiar with it when you walk into the lobby it's not the

00:32:21.589 --> 00:32:22.720
most user-friendly

00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:27.039
location there's no one to greet you if you look behind the

00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:28.160
the first wall

00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:32.400
behind the stairs there's restroom facilities there it's

00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:33.799
also it also has

00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:36.569
shower facilities so if you can imagine the public walks in

00:32:36.569 --> 00:32:37.480
and we don't have a

00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.210
lot of public that utilize that facility but we do have

00:32:40.210 --> 00:32:40.960
contractors

00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:44.809
consultants that come in to do business there to have

00:32:44.809 --> 00:32:46.559
meetings etc and so when

00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:50.119
you walk in if you use restroom facilities you're greeted

00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:50.920
with you know

00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.730
your traditional restroom facilities also shower facilities

00:32:53.730 --> 00:32:54.359
and so it does

00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:58.529
create some awkwardness if field employees are utilizing

00:32:58.529 --> 00:32:59.000
those

00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:02.019
facilities if been out in the field working in a very muddy

00:33:02.019 --> 00:33:02.400
dirty

00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:05.420
environment and they're needing to clean off rinse off and

00:33:05.420 --> 00:33:06.400
you're also

00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:09.920
intermingling with folks from the public utilizing restroom

00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:11.240
so not the ideal

00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:17.130
situation so if so again just the current configurations of

00:33:17.130 --> 00:33:18.519
spaces it's

00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:23.640
not the most configured appropriately some previous

00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:24.680
assumptions that we use

00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:30.119
that to do some space needs back in 2015 2016 the city had

00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:30.599
hired a

00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:33.910
consultant to do a series of space needs analysis for the

00:33:33.910 --> 00:33:35.200
entire organization

00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:39.779
from City Hall to City Hall East to City Hall West our fire

00:33:39.779 --> 00:33:41.079
stations etc

00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:44.099
and one of these was for a service center and one of the

00:33:44.099 --> 00:33:45.079
considerations

00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:49.269
that was discussed was potentially having an annexed a

00:33:49.269 --> 00:33:51.000
service center annex

00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:56.980
on the southwest side of town close to fire station 7 near

00:33:56.980 --> 00:33:58.519
Bonnie Bray and in

00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:02.809
vintage and the idea behind it was to help move some of the

00:34:02.809 --> 00:34:03.920
operations to that

00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:08.090
location again as a city continued to grow but the cost of

00:34:08.090 --> 00:34:09.079
those of that

00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:13.110
facility was in a neighborhood of 21 to 22 million dollars

00:34:13.110 --> 00:34:14.480
for 40,000 square feet

00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:19.030
and so that would require bond issuance it would be years

00:34:19.030 --> 00:34:20.500
in the making and so

00:34:20.500 --> 00:34:24.500
at that time through a change of administration with the

00:34:24.500 --> 00:34:25.480
new city manager

00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:28.889
coming on board late in January the conversation was

00:34:28.889 --> 00:34:30.679
resurrected as to what

00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:36.079
options could we utilize to allow for better utilization of

00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:36.960
our existing

00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:41.079
space but also try to meet the needs of our staff as it

00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:42.960
continues to grow and

00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:47.309
again so here the last number of months we viewed a lot we

00:34:47.309 --> 00:34:49.000
've analyzed all the

00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:52.289
spaces that we have in the city knowing that trying to

00:34:52.289 --> 00:34:54.719
build a 21 to 22 million

00:34:54.719 --> 00:35:00.500
dollar facility or potentially more depending on as as mr.

00:35:00.500 --> 00:35:01.360
Allen mentioned

00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:04.139
about the cost of inflation would be higher in current

00:35:04.139 --> 00:35:05.920
dollars what could we

00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:09.239
do to better utilize existing spaces and some of that space

00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:10.239
may be hiding in

00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:12.730
plain sight so what we decided to do is look at the

00:35:12.730 --> 00:35:15.199
existing service center and

00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:19.010
I'll show you a slide here of what we decided to do and is

00:35:19.010 --> 00:35:20.159
look utilizing the

00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:23.179
existing service center and looking at materials management

00:35:23.179 --> 00:35:24.079
as an opportunity

00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:27.360
where if we have the option of moving materials management

00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:28.280
out of the service

00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:32.000
center could we utilize that vacant space and reconfigure

00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:33.039
it into office

00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:38.860
space and so what you have here before you basically are a

00:35:38.860 --> 00:35:41.039
snapshot of the the

00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:44.320
site layout the interior site layout of the service center

00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:45.440
the first and second

00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:47.960
floor and the bottom floor where it says materials

00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:49.280
management is just under

00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:53.000
30,000 square feet and again that is a warehouse operations

00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:54.360
that is where where

00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:59.880
departments are issued supplies from just from poles and

00:35:59.880 --> 00:36:01.800
equipment for P for

00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:10.219
DME and other types of cable to pipe fittings pipes blue

00:36:10.219 --> 00:36:11.840
jeans it depends I

00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:14.550
mean it's a it's a variety of things that are issued and

00:36:14.550 --> 00:36:15.599
distributed at our

00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:19.320
materials management warehouse but it does occupy about 40%

00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:19.920
of our square

00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:23.199
footage of the first floor of the service center and so

00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:25.280
knowing that we

00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:29.829
have some operations or some facilities and DME or excuse

00:36:29.829 --> 00:36:31.039
me a DME at solid

00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:33.769
waste we felt like we could potentially move that

00:36:33.769 --> 00:36:36.280
operations over and just

00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:39.070
wanted to show you here some photos of the existing service

00:36:39.070 --> 00:36:39.960
center and just to

00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:44.190
cramp nature in which our operations are being housed in

00:36:44.190 --> 00:36:45.760
and and I don't need to

00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:48.780
go through every single one of these pictures but but so

00:36:48.780 --> 00:36:49.760
some of you that are

00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:53.050
familiar with with the facility we have some of our parks

00:36:53.050 --> 00:36:54.360
facilities and all the

00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:57.730
other operations facility where they've been very been very

00:36:57.730 --> 00:36:58.639
creative and

00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:01.960
incorporating every single nook and cranny so they can

00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:03.639
whether it's having

00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:09.000
staff meetings or break room areas that also is

00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:10.840
incorporated locker room area

00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:13.610
locker room areas our restroom facilities that I'd

00:37:13.610 --> 00:37:14.920
mentioned earlier on

00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:17.579
the on the bottom right hand corner of the screen we

00:37:17.579 --> 00:37:18.719
utilize some of our

00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:22.679
equipment bays for staff meetings or areas for our staff to

00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:23.699
to have lunch or

00:37:23.699 --> 00:37:29.429
have breaks in our parks area which is in the top middle is

00:37:29.429 --> 00:37:31.079
is is has equipment

00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:34.650
and other supplies where they utilize to to maintain our

00:37:34.650 --> 00:37:36.480
park system and so every

00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:39.880
single bit of the space is utilized and so really it doesn

00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:41.199
't create the necessary

00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:45.559
work environment for our staff to have the space they need

00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:46.920
to to meet during

00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:50.570
the morning when they when they get when they begin their

00:37:50.570 --> 00:37:52.380
shift to have a variety

00:37:52.380 --> 00:37:54.869
of private conversations when it requires supervisor to

00:37:54.869 --> 00:37:55.480
employee top

00:37:55.480 --> 00:38:00.199
issues it just makes it very inconvenient very difficult to

00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:01.519
have those

00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.940
kinds of conversations and operate out of that cramped

00:38:04.940 --> 00:38:06.280
space and so just wanted

00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:11.090
to show you some of those current conditions so the thought

00:38:11.090 --> 00:38:12.039
was with with

00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.599
moving materials management out of that space would free up

00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:16.800
quite a bit of space

00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:19.940
at the service center and and I know we brought this

00:38:19.940 --> 00:38:21.840
information before you to

00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:25.079
the pub before but the thought was if we could utilize an

00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:26.280
existing location

00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:30.360
existing space 651 Mayhill is the one that came to mind

00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:31.679
that's a space that is

00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:36.639
owned by the city it's a solid waste facility over at the

00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:38.320
Mayhill location

00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:43.280
it's 81,000 square feet as a former Department of Defense

00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:44.280
warehouse

00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:48.599
location where as troops were were deployed overseas

00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:49.840
depending on whatever

00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:53.030
the theater of operation they were they would they would

00:38:53.030 --> 00:38:54.000
maintain their

00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:57.159
equipment their vehicles or personal vehicles in this space

00:38:57.159 --> 00:38:58.599
and so as you can

00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:02.039
see by the pictures it's very rectangular in size for the

00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:02.639
most part

00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:06.699
it's it's a very open space it's it's basically a blank

00:39:06.699 --> 00:39:09.400
canvas we do house

00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:14.949
some solid waste carts and I know DME has some of their

00:39:14.949 --> 00:39:17.800
equipment there but

00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:20.469
we'll leave that we can utilize that space and move

00:39:20.469 --> 00:39:22.119
materials management over

00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:27.219
into into this location and so the thought was if we can

00:39:27.219 --> 00:39:28.559
move approximately

00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:31.400
30,000 square feet of materials management out of the

00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:32.159
service center and

00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:35.880
put them into this 81,000 square feet it really would open

00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:36.679
up quite a bit of

00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:40.889
space we're looking at potentially doubling the size of

00:39:40.889 --> 00:39:41.880
materials management

00:39:41.880 --> 00:39:45.760
their footprint because some of this equipment that

00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:46.880
materials management

00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:50.519
houses over at service center is under awnings so it is

00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:51.719
protected by the

00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:55.570
elements but not completely and so the thought is if we can

00:39:55.570 --> 00:39:56.679
move most of not

00:39:56.679 --> 00:40:01.869
all of that material under a roof a would protect it would

00:40:01.869 --> 00:40:03.159
protect the asset

00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:06.409
and really give materials management the space they need to

00:40:06.409 --> 00:40:07.599
to fully function in

00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:11.320
that location it still provides some additional space for

00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:12.199
future expansion

00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:16.369
which I'll show you here in some subsequent slides it would

00:40:16.369 --> 00:40:17.400
provide for

00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:21.159
about just under five acres of a laydown yard as well

00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:22.760
employee spaces parking

00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:28.539
spaces for this location and so we believe that that would

00:40:28.539 --> 00:40:29.940
again free up

00:40:29.940 --> 00:40:34.230
some of the space and so as a result there is an investment

00:40:34.230 --> 00:40:35.480
to be made what

00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:41.150
we were thinking is if we could working with our architects

00:40:41.150 --> 00:40:42.559
we believe we have

00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:45.320
developed some at least high-level planning estimates on

00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:46.239
probable costs on

00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:51.000
this construction project to to allocate about a million

00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:52.239
six for moving

00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:54.710
materials management there is an investment to be made on

00:40:54.710 --> 00:40:55.280
the laydown

00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:59.019
yard and other parking that's required for that location so

00:40:59.019 --> 00:40:59.760
all in with

00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:02.019
construction it'd be right at two point five million

00:41:02.019 --> 00:41:03.760
dollars we would require

00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:06.909
some additional furniture fixtures and equipment to out

00:41:06.909 --> 00:41:08.159
outfit that facility

00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:11.179
some design fees would be incorporated into that and then

00:41:11.179 --> 00:41:11.800
some minor

00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:15.519
development fees cost that we pay for the city for as part

00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:16.519
of its development

00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:19.250
of that of that location and working with the finance

00:41:19.250 --> 00:41:20.639
department we believe

00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:25.000
we could utilize excess certificates of obligation in the

00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:26.400
solid waste fund to

00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:32.130
help offset the cost of that process on that project so I

00:41:32.130 --> 00:41:34.280
'll let that digest for

00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:43.670
the minute so in turn what what does that do for us by

00:41:43.670 --> 00:41:44.639
moving materials

00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:47.670
management out of the service center what we believe it'll

00:41:47.670 --> 00:41:48.559
do is it'll free

00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:52.409
up quite a bit of space and to allow our parks operations

00:41:52.409 --> 00:41:53.519
streets electric

00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:58.070
communications water distribution utility safety training

00:41:58.070 --> 00:41:58.880
it would allow

00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:02.119
us to expand further into that vacant footprint of the

00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:04.559
facility so before this

00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.929
future this the space here where it says future expansion

00:42:07.929 --> 00:42:09.440
again it showed

00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:12.550
twenty nine thousand it allows for a future expansion of

00:42:12.550 --> 00:42:13.760
our facility so what

00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:17.840
I decided what I provided here is a table of the current

00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:19.000
configuration of

00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:22.760
the square footage and again these are how these are high

00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:23.840
level planning

00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:26.860
estimates of the square footage nothing has been designed

00:42:26.860 --> 00:42:27.519
these are just

00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:30.960
conversations that have been had with our architect at a

00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:32.320
planning level from

00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:35.340
a planning level estimate and just what could happen if

00:42:35.340 --> 00:42:36.559
this space were vacated

00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:40.110
so what I wanted to show you here is just the current

00:42:40.110 --> 00:42:41.639
square footage and our

00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:44.389
current operations and the proposed square footage with

00:42:44.389 --> 00:42:45.480
materials management

00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:48.349
moving out of the service center on the first floor so you

00:42:48.349 --> 00:42:48.960
can see the

00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:52.130
difference and this is then what would happen on the second

00:42:52.130 --> 00:42:52.960
floor it would

00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:56.150
allow for engineering to expand water wastewater

00:42:56.150 --> 00:42:58.159
administration to to to be

00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:03.099
reconfigured in a much more holistic fashion purchasing

00:43:03.099 --> 00:43:04.119
administration the

00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:07.639
actual purchasing manager along with her staff would stay

00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:09.000
at the service center

00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:11.510
at this point it was just be the materials management staff

00:43:11.510 --> 00:43:12.159
that would be

00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:17.190
moving over to the service center so as you can see it does

00:43:17.190 --> 00:43:18.559
allow room for

00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:22.409
expansion on the previous slide so as our staff continues

00:43:22.409 --> 00:43:23.380
to grow we have

00:43:23.380 --> 00:43:27.380
about 18,000 square feet to move into that over time and so

00:43:27.380 --> 00:43:28.760
in essence it

00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:32.139
would forego the need having to build a second service

00:43:32.139 --> 00:43:33.400
center or a service

00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:40.340
center annex in the near future for us to make that happen

00:43:40.340 --> 00:43:42.360
it would be just

00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:46.079
under a nine million dollar investment to make that change

00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:48.079
to to renovate the

00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:50.460
service center we're talking about five point eight million

00:43:50.460 --> 00:43:51.039
dollars some

00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:53.320
additional side improvements that would be necessary there

00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:54.159
at the service center

00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:57.469
so all in construction and hard costs would be just under

00:43:57.469 --> 00:43:58.480
six point eight

00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:01.320
million dollars along with furniture fixtures and equipment

00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:02.980
to add into the

00:44:02.980 --> 00:44:05.820
additional footprint that would be moving into that vacant

00:44:05.820 --> 00:44:06.559
space what the

00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:10.039
design fees and the development development fees for that

00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:10.760
project so

00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:13.780
we're talking right under nine million dollars for that

00:44:13.780 --> 00:44:15.119
entire project to be

00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:20.599
completed and on the opposite side our funding sources that

00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:21.519
we've been working

00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:25.239
with the finance department to to at least from a high-

00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:27.119
level perspective from

00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.559
an allocation of if we were to move forward with this

00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:31.840
project what would be

00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:34.610
estimated that those respective funds and those areas of

00:44:34.610 --> 00:44:35.599
funding would come

00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:43.070
from so from a service center perspective we believe that

00:44:43.070 --> 00:44:43.480
moving

00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:47.699
purchasing from the service center to 651 Mayhill makes

00:44:47.699 --> 00:44:49.239
sense we believe that

00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:53.130
it allow us to to allow us to utilize some existing space

00:44:53.130 --> 00:44:54.440
that city already

00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:58.610
owns no need to purchase anything else allowed us allows us

00:44:58.610 --> 00:45:00.000
to expand into the

00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.320
existing space and fully utilize all the space areas that

00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:06.440
we have to date we

00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:09.539
believe it will meet the shortages that we have at the

00:45:09.539 --> 00:45:11.400
service center again it

00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:15.579
would allows us to from a standpoint from a construction to

00:45:15.579 --> 00:45:16.320
be minimal amounts of

00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:18.739
construction because you're not having to build new

00:45:18.739 --> 00:45:20.360
foundations you're utilizing

00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:23.469
existing footprints of existing facility so a lot of it's

00:45:23.469 --> 00:45:24.679
just renovation and

00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:28.400
retrofitting into existing into an existing facility it's

00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:29.320
scalable allows

00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:32.570
for future growth we believe that it does provide some

00:45:32.570 --> 00:45:33.760
efficiencies for city

00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:39.190
staff it would must be a much more inviting environment for

00:45:39.190 --> 00:45:40.039
our for the

00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:43.289
visiting public that comes in to see and visit with city

00:45:43.289 --> 00:45:44.559
staff when it comes to

00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.579
doing business it would be coder it would meet code

00:45:47.579 --> 00:45:48.519
requirements because we

00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:50.650
would have to add additional restroom facilities at the

00:45:50.650 --> 00:45:51.519
service center which

00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:56.070
were highly needed and so overall we believe that it's a

00:45:56.070 --> 00:45:57.360
good option for the

00:45:57.360 --> 00:45:59.889
staff to consider and for the and then the way it was

00:45:59.889 --> 00:46:01.360
presented to City Council

00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:05.469
we're in the process of in fact we just closed your request

00:46:05.469 --> 00:46:06.519
for qualifications

00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:10.369
for architectural services so just to kind of keep in mind

00:46:10.369 --> 00:46:11.480
that we have not

00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:15.389
spent any money on any of these projects these are all high

00:46:15.389 --> 00:46:16.760
level high level

00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:19.420
planning estimates but we have done a request for

00:46:19.420 --> 00:46:20.599
qualifications for

00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:24.849
architectural services that has closed and so what would we

00:46:24.849 --> 00:46:25.760
be doing and as

00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:29.719
this as staff reviews these requests for qualifications

00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:31.280
once an architect is

00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:35.099
selected and we begin contract negotiations we would bring

00:46:35.099 --> 00:46:35.400
that

00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:39.420
contract to the PUB for your consideration and then if

00:46:39.420 --> 00:46:40.400
voted favorably

00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:43.590
would it then be presented to City Council at a subsequent

00:46:43.590 --> 00:46:45.119
meeting any

00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:48.530
questions about about the service center so far because

00:46:48.530 --> 00:46:49.760
there are some more slides

00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:56.570
but it's about the traffic operations. Just a question

00:46:56.570 --> 00:46:56.599
about you were saying

00:46:56.599 --> 00:47:01.940
that these buildings were old 1960 1980 well the service

00:47:01.940 --> 00:47:03.880
centers 1980s but but

00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:06.570
the traffic operations which I'll show you here in just a

00:47:06.570 --> 00:47:07.679
moment that was built

00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:11.760
in the 1960s okay what you've said is so far so it's it's

00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:13.840
stable as far as you

00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:20.340
know as far as you know it's stable to you know redesign

00:47:20.340 --> 00:47:21.519
okay all right so

00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:23.809
we're talking about the difference between eight or nine

00:47:23.809 --> 00:47:24.559
million dollars

00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:28.659
and thank you to 21 million dollars before start from

00:47:28.659 --> 00:47:32.320
scratch. And we're

00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:37.550
using a building that wasn't being used. I just wanted to

00:47:37.550 --> 00:47:38.519
make sure that the

00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:43.960
existing building was stable. Yes ma'am it's safe and sound

00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:44.760
. Okay. I think this is the

00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:53.050
building that was being used. 1960 isn't that old. Yes they

00:47:53.050 --> 00:47:54.800
've been vacated from there.

00:47:54.800 --> 00:48:00.809
Yes. How does it work from a location standpoint for

00:48:00.809 --> 00:48:02.360
materials management to

00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:08.929
be on Mayhill for all the I don't know I'm assuming at some

00:48:08.929 --> 00:48:10.000
point in time

00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:14.940
everybody has to go there to get something. Correct. Well

00:48:14.940 --> 00:48:16.360
it is change so

00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:19.989
that is it is I guess a con in the standpoint of the pros

00:48:19.989 --> 00:48:21.000
and cons of that

00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:24.719
facility but it will be an adjustment and we were working

00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:25.320
with materials

00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:28.559
management to make sure that that operations that are

00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:29.679
maintained at the

00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:32.119
service center that they have the adequate supplies they

00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:32.840
need to make sure

00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:36.559
they can leave from their location and work in a very

00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:38.880
efficient manner but but

00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:42.010
certainly it will be a change and it is the service center

00:48:42.010 --> 00:48:43.159
where it's located

00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:46.340
now in the central part of town moving it over to to May

00:48:46.340 --> 00:48:47.559
hill will be a change

00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:50.619
so there'll be an adjustment that will need to be made and

00:48:50.619 --> 00:48:51.599
and we think we can

00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:56.579
work through that. How many issues do you have during the

00:48:56.579 --> 00:48:59.360
day? Sir. How many visitors do you have in and out

00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:02.079
during a day? Of the service center? Material management.

00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:04.360
Oh goodness I would

00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:07.380
imagine just about every single operation probably comes in

00:49:07.380 --> 00:49:07.880
and out of

00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:11.760
materials management they just walk across and so it'll be

00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:12.480
a lot of them

00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:15.909
there'll be a lot more coordination that's needed. We're

00:49:15.909 --> 00:49:17.199
not utilizing the

00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.579
train for shipping right there are we because the train

00:49:20.579 --> 00:49:21.619
goes right by the

00:49:21.619 --> 00:49:32.239
existing location. Mostly it's all dropped by truck. So

00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:33.000
moving on to

00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:36.159
traffic operation this is the building that was built in

00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:38.079
the 60s this is a one

00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:41.260
of the entrances to the service center and that building

00:49:41.260 --> 00:49:42.519
there is our traffic

00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:46.840
operations facility. It was built in the 1960s is

00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:48.519
approximately 4,000 square foot

00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:54.079
it's the former former animal shelter facility. It's been

00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:55.519
utilized by our

00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:59.480
traffic operations folks since the mid 80s and again some

00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:00.119
of the same

00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:03.210
statistics that I showed you earlier about the size of Dent

00:50:03.210 --> 00:50:04.719
on over the years

00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:08.039
and again if you can imagine the amount of signals that we

00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:09.199
've added over the

00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:12.219
years and the amount of rows that are maintained stop signs

00:50:12.219 --> 00:50:13.360
etc it's quite a bit

00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:15.710
that's happened and they've been utilizing that same

00:50:15.710 --> 00:50:17.440
footprint for for

00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:23.130
30 plus years. Currently non full-time full-time equival

00:50:23.130 --> 00:50:25.639
ents FTEs are housed at

00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:28.840
our traffic operations building. While it does show no

00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:30.119
vehicle bays I mean there

00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:33.559
is a garage door but if you'll see a photo here in a minute

00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:34.440
it does not act

00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:38.400
as a base basically just another storage area for our folks

00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:39.000
and so it's

00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:43.550
very cramped there is no room for expansion and again it is

00:50:43.550 --> 00:50:44.079
the former

00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:49.880
animal control facility so it's time it's time to to

00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:51.639
upgrade our facilities

00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:54.389
for this for the staff and quite honestly they're really it

00:50:54.389 --> 00:50:55.079
's not designed

00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:58.610
for new technology as we replace several of our aging

00:50:58.610 --> 00:51:01.679
traffic signals they are in

00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:04.860
essence smart signals they can be worked remotely and

00:51:04.860 --> 00:51:06.199
things that nature you can

00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:08.940
operate those from a centralized location this facility

00:51:08.940 --> 00:51:09.719
doesn't really

00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:12.460
house it doesn't really lends itself for that type of

00:51:12.460 --> 00:51:13.960
operation so it's very

00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:17.480
manually oriented when it comes to working a traffic signal

00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:18.239
for our staff

00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:22.519
so any type of remote locate remote login to to to work

00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:23.760
through these

00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:27.420
signals it just doesn't happen at this location. So again

00:51:27.420 --> 00:51:28.960
some photos so you can

00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.980
see the location this is basically some of the control

00:51:31.980 --> 00:51:33.199
centers that we have for

00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:36.750
our traffic operations here and then here's some of our

00:51:36.750 --> 00:51:37.880
staff areas where we

00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:41.349
work in and and again that's that bay door area where we

00:51:41.349 --> 00:51:42.480
have some of our

00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:45.659
equipment and supplies and signs and that are that are

00:51:45.659 --> 00:51:46.960
housed there so it's

00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:51.659
it's a very cramped space it's very small and again doesn't

00:51:51.659 --> 00:51:53.159
really allow for

00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:58.949
our staff to work in the most in a good area for it for

00:51:58.949 --> 00:52:00.360
what they need to do in

00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:03.929
the amount of work that they have to do. To give you an

00:52:03.929 --> 00:52:05.639
idea there was a bond

00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:10.289
package item back in 2014 where the citizens voted to to

00:52:10.289 --> 00:52:11.639
have the city build

00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:17.889
a traffic operations facility and there had been some some

00:52:17.889 --> 00:52:18.159
some planning

00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:21.449
documents put together some planning level estimates that

00:52:21.449 --> 00:52:22.079
were put together

00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.619
of building a 10,000 square foot facility actually on the

00:52:25.619 --> 00:52:26.239
service center

00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:29.780
campus and so but one of the options that was going to

00:52:29.780 --> 00:52:31.199
happen with that with

00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:35.400
that process was to they were gonna the thought was to real

00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:37.079
ign Roodale Road in

00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:42.019
that location along with some other interior streets to to

00:52:42.019 --> 00:52:42.960
to configure to

00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:47.210
be reconfigured for traffic operations along with just just

00:52:47.210 --> 00:52:48.239
the alignment of

00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:52.579
Roodale Road for the ease of traffic through that location.

00:52:52.579 --> 00:52:53.320
When those

00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:57.880
planning level estimates were conducted back in 2018 the

00:52:57.880 --> 00:52:58.440
construction

00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:01.599
estimates came in at 2.2 million dollars which obviously is

00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:02.760
higher than the 1.5

00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:07.119
million that was approved by the bond by by the community

00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:08.480
however it did not

00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:10.829
include any furniture fixtures and equipment these high-

00:53:10.829 --> 00:53:11.559
level planning

00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:15.210
estimates and there was and the laid-out yard also was not

00:53:15.210 --> 00:53:16.239
factored into that

00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:20.139
cost so right then and there we were already 700,000 over

00:53:20.139 --> 00:53:21.119
budget plus there

00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:25.960
were other components that were still not not not taken

00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:27.360
into account as part

00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:30.139
of the project so it could very easily have been nearly

00:53:30.139 --> 00:53:31.320
three million dollars

00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:34.340
or twice the amount that was approved by the bond committee

00:53:34.340 --> 00:53:35.880
and by the by the

00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:38.570
community so at the time the thought was let's put the

00:53:38.570 --> 00:53:39.760
project on hold let's

00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:43.809
reassess and see what other options are considered could be

00:53:43.809 --> 00:53:45.360
considered so again

00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:51.039
with new city management we revisited the issue and and and

00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:52.239
felt we needed to

00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:56.289
what can we do to advance the conversation and see what

00:53:56.289 --> 00:53:57.300
options were

00:53:57.300 --> 00:54:01.650
made available and so the thought was again looking at the

00:54:01.650 --> 00:54:03.400
existing facilities

00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:05.869
as we talked about for materials management could we

00:54:05.869 --> 00:54:07.280
incorporate 10,000

00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:13.460
square feet into the into the leftover space for 651 May

00:54:13.460 --> 00:54:15.000
hill and so again the

00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:19.550
thought was could we take that the 10,000 square foot

00:54:19.550 --> 00:54:21.960
facility renovate

00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:25.769
651 Mayhill and incorporate traffic operations into that

00:54:25.769 --> 00:54:27.000
location and so

00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:30.630
that's one of the options that we considered so we we

00:54:30.630 --> 00:54:33.280
believe that we can

00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:36.360
incorporate the 1.5 million dollars retrofit the interior

00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:39.199
of 651 Mayhill this

00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:42.449
information was taken to the bond oversight committee in

00:54:42.449 --> 00:54:43.440
late January and

00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:47.699
they unanimously approved it and so I can show you here

00:54:47.699 --> 00:54:49.519
just a kind of a

00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:54.480
rudimentary site plan of here's materials management or

00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:55.039
incorporating

00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:58.519
their 61,000 square foot facility here's traffic control

00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:00.079
incorporating 10,000

00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:03.360
square foot allows for an additional 10,000 square feet of

00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:04.440
future expansion if

00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:08.400
needed over time and incorporate some additional parking

00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:10.039
for that operation of

00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:16.880
traffic here the financials moving that 1.5 million dollars

00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:19.159
into 651 it would

00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:23.800
include the parking stalls there would be some furniture

00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:25.559
and fixtures cost that

00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:29.000
were needed we would need to do some design elements for

00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:30.039
that so in essence

00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:33.179
all-in for that entire project we're estimating it just

00:55:33.179 --> 00:55:34.480
under 2.2 million

00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:37.789
dollars which is very similar to the previous budget we had

00:55:37.789 --> 00:55:38.599
come in at but

00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:41.750
this is all-in with all cost versus the other one there

00:55:41.750 --> 00:55:43.360
were still some elements

00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:47.739
that were missing so we think this is based on what we've

00:55:47.739 --> 00:55:49.239
in conversations

00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:52.610
with the architect we believe that this is a you know a

00:55:52.610 --> 00:55:53.280
really a good project

00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:57.079
and it would be all-in from the standpoint of moving that

00:55:57.079 --> 00:55:57.699
operation

00:55:57.699 --> 00:56:03.039
over and then again from a financials incorporating the 1.5

00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:03.639
million dollars

00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:07.260
general obligation bonds that were approved by by the

00:56:07.260 --> 00:56:08.599
community and then

00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:13.440
some excess CEOs and solid waste to make up the difference

00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:14.840
so for the 2.2

00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:22.239
million and that's just that doesn't include the technology

00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:23.760
correct for the

00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:27.800
traffic correct correct facility correct it'll include some

00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:28.480
but not the whole

00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:35.460
thing and the excess certificates of obligation if that's

00:56:35.460 --> 00:56:36.519
because we're not

00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:40.079
doing something solid waste that we plan to use this for

00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:42.199
yes ma'am we have about

00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:45.960
4.2 million dollars of excess CEOs that were planned we're

00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:47.119
already issued we're

00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:50.369
planned for something else and so the proposal here is to

00:56:50.369 --> 00:56:51.239
use it for this

00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:54.889
purpose and so then the city's materials management fund

00:56:54.889 --> 00:56:55.960
and also then the general

00:56:55.960 --> 00:56:58.980
fund traffic is housed in the general fund would pay a

00:56:58.980 --> 00:57:00.519
rental back to solid

00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:04.599
waste offset that debt and so it really you know helps

00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:06.239
solid waste fund as

00:57:06.239 --> 00:57:09.380
well the idea would be that that asset would continue to be

00:57:09.380 --> 00:57:10.400
a solid waste asset

00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:14.650
met with a with the city's bond council and we think it's

00:57:14.650 --> 00:57:15.519
an appropriate use

00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:18.800
there is no private activity issue that arises out of this

00:57:18.800 --> 00:57:20.079
it's the city itself

00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:24.059
and so it's an allowable use you read my mind Tony you knew

00:57:24.059 --> 00:57:25.280
what my next question

00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:29.880
was thank you so that that offset was taken into account

00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:31.239
for the previous

00:57:31.239 --> 00:57:36.179
item we had yes sir it's already built into that into that

00:57:36.179 --> 00:57:38.840
forecast yes sir

00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:44.650
so again some of the issues that it solves it does fulfill

00:57:44.650 --> 00:57:45.559
the bond

00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:48.579
commitment that was made to the community it's utilizing

00:57:48.579 --> 00:57:49.239
with with

00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:53.789
existing bond funds as budgeted utilize existing space that

00:57:53.789 --> 00:57:54.440
the city already

00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:58.289
owns allows for future growth it's scalable allows for the

00:57:58.289 --> 00:57:59.000
state of the art

00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:02.659
components that we need to maintain and and expand our

00:58:02.659 --> 00:58:04.400
operations and expand our

00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:07.090
footprint when it comes to replacing our traffic signals

00:58:07.090 --> 00:58:08.599
and our community we

00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:10.989
believe that it provides some efficiencies by centralizing

00:58:10.989 --> 00:58:11.320
a lot of

00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:14.690
these operations that right now are done manually on site

00:58:14.690 --> 00:58:15.400
there at the

00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:18.650
intersection so allows for safety allows for a lot of

00:58:18.650 --> 00:58:19.599
different things to be done

00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:23.889
from a remote location or centralized location again as I

00:58:23.889 --> 00:58:24.920
mentioned earlier

00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:26.949
this information was presented to the bond oversight

00:58:26.949 --> 00:58:27.880
committee back in late

00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:31.409
January it was approved unanimously and then really the

00:58:31.409 --> 00:58:32.320
next steps is we're in

00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:36.489
the process of reviewing architects so again not a single

00:58:36.489 --> 00:58:38.039
penny has been spent

00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:42.039
on any of these projects so again this information was

00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:42.840
presented to council

00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:46.090
back in February we wanted to present it to you tonight to

00:58:46.090 --> 00:58:47.239
keep you informed of

00:58:47.239 --> 00:58:50.030
what we were what we were wanting to do and like to do and

00:58:50.030 --> 00:58:50.639
seek your

00:58:50.639 --> 00:58:54.119
recommendation for moving this process forward and as and

00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:55.679
as mentioned if as we

00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:58.760
go through the process of selecting an architect we'll

00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:00.159
bring that selection to

00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:05.400
the pub with with the requisite funding to get your

00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:06.440
recommendation and if

00:59:06.440 --> 00:59:09.460
recommended favorably that would then be sent to the City

00:59:09.460 --> 00:59:10.400
Council at one of their

00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:21.579
upcoming meetings okay questions we with the technology

00:59:21.579 --> 00:59:22.920
shortcomings that you say

00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:26.530
that the existing traffic operations building has what can

00:59:26.530 --> 00:59:27.599
you touch on what

00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:32.719
those might be and how they'll be alleviated out on Mayhill

00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:33.400
they're just

00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:37.570
metal buildings so there's really not there's really not

00:59:37.570 --> 00:59:38.280
much difference

00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:42.039
between the building on Mayhill off of Mayhill and the

00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:43.119
building that we

00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:47.679
currently have well it in size right well right they're

00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:48.679
they're both metal

00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:52.170
buildings of the the one on Mayhill can be again with

00:59:52.170 --> 00:59:53.800
working with an architect

00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:58.039
will be insulated will be I mean it'll it'll look like an

00:59:58.039 --> 00:59:59.039
office on the

00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:02.559
interior would allow for some bays it'll allow for

01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:06.679
workspace for our our sign

01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:12.019
sign crews so they can create signs and change create stop

01:00:12.019 --> 01:00:13.760
signs and sign blades

01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:19.409
for street signs etc from a technology perspective and some

01:00:19.409 --> 01:00:19.760
of the traffic

01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:23.010
operation facilities I've been in I mean it literally looks

01:00:23.010 --> 01:00:24.239
like NASA and you've

01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:27.730
got all these flat panels and you're able to meet able to

01:00:27.730 --> 01:00:28.840
see your your city

01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:32.969
out your your intersections via cameras etc so while we do

01:00:32.969 --> 01:00:34.000
have have some of

01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:37.380
that technology there at the existing facility it's not to

01:00:37.380 --> 01:00:38.360
the extent it could

01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:41.380
be as we continue to expand our footprint and replacing

01:00:41.380 --> 01:00:41.760
these older

01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:46.340
older intersections with your traffic signals okay I have

01:00:46.340 --> 01:00:47.159
one more question

01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:50.880
it's just some clarification for me so the bond oversight

01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:53.099
committee so they

01:00:53.099 --> 01:00:57.150
meet and they reviewed the original intent of the bond

01:00:57.150 --> 01:00:58.800
committee before and

01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:03.099
they review the intent of the ordinance that the city voted

01:01:03.099 --> 01:01:03.980
on and then

01:01:03.980 --> 01:01:07.230
determined that the funds can be reallocated to a project

01:01:07.230 --> 01:01:08.159
that the voters

01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:12.710
didn't approve I'm just curious how that works so about

01:01:12.710 --> 01:01:13.599
every five years the

01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:16.860
council appoints a blue ribbon committee it's about 50 you

01:01:16.860 --> 01:01:18.840
know citizens I think

01:01:18.840 --> 01:01:21.920
each council member gets about seven that they can appoint

01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:22.719
from that

01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:25.739
generally speaking that that committee will break up into

01:01:25.739 --> 01:01:27.800
subcommittees and so

01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:29.800
once the committee's work's been done and the

01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:31.239
recommendations been made and

01:01:31.239 --> 01:01:35.579
elections been had generally speaking the chairman as there

01:01:35.579 --> 01:01:36.840
's there's co-chairmans

01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:39.480
of the entire committee and then the chairs of the of the

01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:40.599
subcommittees then

01:01:40.599 --> 01:01:43.840
become the bond oversight committee so it's the same

01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:45.320
individuals that were

01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:47.929
involved from the very beginning on what those projects

01:01:47.929 --> 01:01:49.320
were and what was decided

01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:53.039
they're fully in tune believe me on what what the intent

01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:54.000
was for those

01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:57.519
individual projects we do try to meet with them at least

01:01:57.519 --> 01:01:58.559
annually that we have

01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:01.179
been talking about meeting with them I believe quarterly

01:02:01.179 --> 01:02:02.159
now because of some of

01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:06.119
these changes so we do review this and from time to time

01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:07.679
there are reallocations

01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:12.170
that occur from one project to another but generally

01:02:12.170 --> 01:02:13.079
speaking most of those

01:02:13.079 --> 01:02:17.440
projects stay intact unless there's you know some other

01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:20.889
extenuating circumstances and I will tell you in the 2005

01:02:20.889 --> 01:02:22.280
bond program there was a

01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:26.829
couple of projects where the city had issued bonds US 377

01:02:26.829 --> 01:02:28.800
FM 1830 those

01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:32.760
project was subsequently funded by other sources external

01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:34.079
to the city so that

01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:37.690
resulted in some dollars that we had available so you know

01:02:37.690 --> 01:02:38.159
part of our

01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:40.840
recommendation to the council tomorrow will be to reall

01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:42.079
ocate those dollars for

01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:45.480
some other projects that are in existence and so so again

01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:46.320
yeah we have a

01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:49.139
lot of conversations with that committee but generally

01:02:49.139 --> 01:02:50.280
speaking unless there's

01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:52.750
some exchange circumstance those projects that were

01:02:52.750 --> 01:02:53.639
identified for the

01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:56.659
for the citizens are the ones that we work on okay and so

01:02:56.659 --> 01:02:58.559
the current oversight

01:02:58.559 --> 01:03:02.320
committee is made up of the chairpeople from the 2016 bond

01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:03.239
or you actually have

01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:06.280
multiple bond oversight committees that are made up of the

01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:07.280
chairpeople from

01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:11.239
those years that those bonds were presented the the only

01:03:11.239 --> 01:03:12.159
committee that we

01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:16.500
have currently is from the 2014 bond election and as a

01:03:16.500 --> 01:03:17.599
matter of fact the pub

01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:21.679
chairman is the chairman of that committee we do have a

01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:22.599
2000

01:03:26.599 --> 01:03:30.090
just trying to get some clarification now this work we also

01:03:30.090 --> 01:03:31.599
had a an oversight

01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:36.960
committee from the 2012 bond program we did late last year

01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:38.199
attempted to get

01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:40.880
those two committees together unfortunately some of those

01:03:40.880 --> 01:03:41.440
members have

01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:45.340
now moved on and so we've not officially dissolved it so

01:03:45.340 --> 01:03:46.559
what we've asked the

01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:49.579
2014 bond oversight committee because some of the projects

01:03:49.579 --> 01:03:50.280
are very similar

01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:53.440
street reconstruction was 2012 we've asked them to make a

01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:57.159
recommendation on the 2005 projects 2012 projects and the

01:03:57.159 --> 01:03:58.320
14 projects as well

01:03:58.320 --> 01:04:06.239
okay thank you for sure okay I just have one comment and I

01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:07.679
guess it's a concern

01:04:07.679 --> 01:04:11.400
with some lost efficiency and in splitting your material

01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:12.519
management area

01:04:12.519 --> 01:04:16.329
away from your workforce having had some experience with

01:04:16.329 --> 01:04:18.440
that and losing employees

01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:22.550
on a much smaller campus than you guys are working with in

01:04:22.550 --> 01:04:25.039
making those trips I

01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:28.289
think it's something you need to take a deep look at with

01:04:28.289 --> 01:04:29.400
your supervisors

01:04:29.400 --> 01:04:37.739
absolutely we definitely will other comments questions you

01:04:37.739 --> 01:04:38.639
need an

01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:45.090
indication from us then as far as what what the committee's

01:04:45.090 --> 01:04:46.760
preference is I say

01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:56.150
go ahead thank you thanks yeah well on 22 million well yeah

01:04:56.150 --> 01:05:00.000
plus it's the best

01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:04.730
thing I mean you get you get a lot of room to grow if you

01:05:04.730 --> 01:05:07.440
will yeah that you're

01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:14.880
gonna need eventually anyway okay thank you thank you

01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:29.679
okay see what we have we have a closed meeting is the next

01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:32.599
thing on the agenda

01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:39.440
I know we've got some people here that that really deals

01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:41.679
with one one issue one

01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:46.789
matter on the regular agenda yeah I'm thinking we could do

01:05:46.789 --> 01:05:51.239
that and we yeah and

01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:54.400
then come back and pick up the one that deals with closed

01:05:54.400 --> 01:05:55.440
meeting after yeah

01:05:55.440 --> 01:06:02.559
after okay okay trying to make sure buddy gets home in time

01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:03.320
to watch part of

01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:08.260
the North Texas basketball game tonight or listen to it

01:06:08.260 --> 01:06:11.159
anyway okay so we'll

01:06:11.159 --> 01:06:14.769
rather than going to close meeting we'll do the do the

01:06:14.769 --> 01:06:17.199
regular meeting we have a

01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:31.699
consent agenda with let's see five items on the consent

01:06:31.699 --> 01:06:34.039
agenda is there any

01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:39.440
member who would like to have any of those items pulled for

01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:40.639
individual

01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:43.159
consideration

01:06:48.519 --> 01:06:53.489
hearing none then is there a motion to approve the consent

01:06:53.489 --> 01:06:56.559
agenda so moved

01:06:56.559 --> 01:07:01.920
second of a motion second to approve the items item a b c d

01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:03.480
and e on the

01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:09.380
consent agenda is there further discussion all in favor

01:07:09.380 --> 01:07:11.280
then say aye any

01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:18.130
opposed same sign okay consent agenda is approved items for

01:07:18.130 --> 01:07:18.599
individual

01:07:18.599 --> 01:07:24.250
consideration first item a which is to consider approval of

01:07:24.250 --> 01:07:25.199
the public

01:07:25.199 --> 01:07:30.610
utilities board meeting minutes of February 26 2018 are

01:07:30.610 --> 01:07:32.440
there any questions

01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:38.130
additions corrections for to those minutes if not then is

01:07:38.130 --> 01:07:39.639
there a motion to

01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:46.989
approve those as submitted so moved motion second and a

01:07:46.989 --> 01:07:48.679
second discussion

01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:55.320
all in favor say aye any opposed same sign okay item B

01:07:55.320 --> 01:07:57.880
under items for

01:07:57.880 --> 01:08:01.039
individual consideration is to consider recommending

01:08:01.039 --> 01:08:02.280
approval of the watershed

01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:06.320
protection division sponsorship agreement with keep didn't

01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:07.079
beautiful

01:08:07.079 --> 01:08:11.800
incorporated in the amount of $8,000

01:08:18.119 --> 01:08:18.569
good evening pb my name is Deb Rivera I'm with

01:08:18.569 --> 01:08:23.520
environmental services tonight

01:08:23.520 --> 01:08:30.779
staff is requesting the recommendation for expanding $8,000

01:08:30.779 --> 01:08:32.520
for sponsorship

01:08:36.399 --> 01:08:39.500
watershed protection allocate fund annually for this

01:08:39.500 --> 01:08:41.479
purpose and the

01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:44.960
purpose though the reason why we do it is just for

01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:46.619
promoting pollution

01:08:46.619 --> 01:08:50.489
prevention it's on water and water quality awareness and to

01:08:50.489 --> 01:08:51.439
meet the

01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:54.630
requirements of the MS4 permit which is the municipal

01:08:54.630 --> 01:08:56.439
separate sewer site or a

01:08:56.439 --> 01:09:01.779
system I'm sorry separate storm sewer system with the CQ by

01:09:01.779 --> 01:09:04.239
using the KDB

01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:08.720
staff is able to capitalize in the network of contacts that

01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:10.039
KDB already has

01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:15.069
to use the volunteer base over 2,000 people that KDB

01:09:15.069 --> 01:09:16.800
currently has and to

01:09:16.800 --> 01:09:20.649
use establish events that the community would recognize

01:09:20.649 --> 01:09:22.199
already in the last two

01:09:22.199 --> 01:09:24.989
years staff have allocated between nine thousand ninety

01:09:24.989 --> 01:09:27.000
five hundred dollars for

01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:35.300
that purpose we are requesting to spend eight thousand

01:09:35.300 --> 01:09:36.960
dollars for paying into

01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:39.680
the Red One Festival the great American cleanup and the

01:09:39.680 --> 01:09:41.000
environmental grant

01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:45.569
program for a total of 8,000 however due to a rollover

01:09:45.569 --> 01:09:47.720
funds from last year we

01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:51.439
are actually requesting for eighteen I'm sorry fifteen

01:09:51.439 --> 01:09:52.600
hundred dollars to be used

01:09:52.600 --> 01:09:57.329
towards that so we will end up paying sixty five hundreds

01:09:57.329 --> 01:09:58.680
to keep the kid

01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:04.960
that and beautiful at this point the staff is recommending

01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:05.880
on maintaining the

01:10:05.880 --> 01:10:09.920
sponsorship to KDB to approve the requested expenditure of

01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:12.840
sixty five hundred dollars and to adhere the resolution

01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:16.199
passed in 2018 about how to expand

01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:20.750
sponsorship funds that was ordinance I'm sorry resolution

01:10:20.750 --> 01:10:22.479
eighteen zero nine five

01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:31.590
any questions questions yes what is the MS4 MS4 is a permit

01:10:31.590 --> 01:10:32.279
that the city has

01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:38.159
with TCQ and it is for the municipal separate storm sewer

01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:39.920
system and that's

01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:43.640
a permit that the city have to maintain every five years

01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:44.880
with TCQ every

01:10:44.880 --> 01:10:51.340
municipal has to do that across the country and just to be

01:10:51.340 --> 01:10:54.279
clear this is we

01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:57.840
just approve the minutes from last time those were DME

01:10:57.840 --> 01:10:59.840
funds that we looked at

01:10:59.840 --> 01:11:04.390
last time this is a wastewater right watershed watershed

01:11:04.390 --> 01:11:06.520
protection and I'll

01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:10.050
make the same statement I made last time I think it's a

01:11:10.050 --> 01:11:12.520
great way to leverage

01:11:12.520 --> 01:11:16.520
keeping it beautiful is a good good job in leveraging

01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:18.600
public money with private

01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:23.300
donations and private volunteer hours and so they do a good

01:11:23.300 --> 01:11:26.560
job so

01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:33.909
2000 people 2000 people those on the events that we are

01:11:33.909 --> 01:11:34.960
participating in have

01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:38.210
been for 13 years the community already recognized them

01:11:38.210 --> 01:11:39.399
they actually attend

01:11:39.399 --> 01:11:42.770
those on a regular basis so it's definitely a win-win

01:11:42.770 --> 01:11:44.359
situation for both

01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:50.760
KDB and watershed protection okay we have a motion then on

01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:53.880
item B

01:11:53.880 --> 01:12:00.920
much to approve and a second further discussion all in

01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:02.880
favor say aye any

01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:09.960
opposed same sign thank you items passes

01:12:13.920 --> 01:12:22.390
okay we can item C which is to consider recommending

01:12:22.390 --> 01:12:23.399
adoption of an ordinance

01:12:23.399 --> 01:12:29.880
for the city of Denton amending ordinance number 2017 273

01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:31.720
to reduce solid waste

01:12:31.720 --> 01:12:35.529
residential collection service rates and remove certain

01:12:35.529 --> 01:12:36.859
administrative rate

01:12:36.859 --> 01:12:41.199
setting provisions in providing an effective date of course

01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:41.880
this relates

01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:46.640
back to our work session item so Tony

01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:49.920
I'll just want to just react read a right again this is a

01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:52.199
first step stab at

01:12:52.199 --> 01:12:55.350
these rates we will come back to you in the next three or

01:12:55.350 --> 01:12:56.600
four months to have a

01:12:56.600 --> 01:13:00.130
wider discussion about all the rates in solid waste but we

01:13:00.130 --> 01:13:01.560
believe that that we

01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:04.260
can immediately make this change for our residential

01:13:04.260 --> 01:13:06.000
customers so we're here to

01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:09.729
recommend a 12% decrease in those refuge and recycling

01:13:09.729 --> 01:13:11.399
rates standard and large

01:13:11.399 --> 01:13:16.149
carts and be happy to answer any questions that you may

01:13:16.149 --> 01:13:18.439
have this is for

01:13:18.439 --> 01:13:23.539
an effective date of the effective date it will be the 28th

01:13:23.539 --> 01:13:25.760
28 correct you know

01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:33.399
pending councils okay any other questions at Tony is there

01:13:33.399 --> 01:13:34.359
a motion then

01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:40.289
to approve we have a motion to second this time from the

01:13:40.289 --> 01:13:42.079
side of the room

01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:49.039
give them a turn any other discussion all in favor say aye

01:13:49.039 --> 01:13:50.960
any opposed same

01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:57.069
sign thank you item D is to consider recommending adoption

01:13:57.069 --> 01:13:57.640
of an ordinance

01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:01.739
of the city of Denton Texas excuse me authorizing the city

01:14:01.739 --> 01:14:02.840
manager to execute a

01:14:02.840 --> 01:14:07.779
contract for a utility assistance program supporting low-

01:14:07.779 --> 01:14:08.840
income households

01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:12.039
providing for the expenditure of funds therefore and

01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:13.520
providing an effective

01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:19.319
date RFP 6669 awarded to interfaith ministries of Denton

01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:21.359
incorporated in the

01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:24.859
not to exceed amount of three hundred and seventy five

01:14:24.859 --> 01:14:27.159
thousand dollars customer

01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:29.930
service manager I'm happy to report that I did not go to

01:14:29.930 --> 01:14:31.079
the dentist prior to

01:14:31.079 --> 01:14:35.430
this meeting so you should be able to understand me I'm

01:14:35.430 --> 01:14:36.600
here tonight to talk

01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:39.619
about the utility assistance program request for proposal a

01:14:39.619 --> 01:14:40.239
little bit of

01:14:40.239 --> 01:14:43.489
background the prevent loss of utility service also known

01:14:43.489 --> 01:14:44.000
as the plus one

01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:46.520
program helps our customers that are going through a

01:14:46.520 --> 01:14:47.760
financial hardship to be

01:14:47.760 --> 01:14:50.449
able to pay for their utilities and also to be able to

01:14:50.449 --> 01:14:51.880
restore services if they

01:14:51.880 --> 01:14:55.439
encountered an interruption of service I'm also happy to

01:14:55.439 --> 01:14:56.600
let you know that we

01:14:56.600 --> 01:15:00.100
had anticipated not coming back to you until June of this

01:15:00.100 --> 01:15:01.520
year with this RFP so

01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:03.630
we're three months ahead of schedule so we'll be able to

01:15:03.630 --> 01:15:05.079
implement that enhanced

01:15:05.079 --> 01:15:08.319
criteria sooner for our customers pending your approval

01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:09.920
interfaith ministry

01:15:09.920 --> 01:15:13.289
we did send this out to 295 organizations we had one

01:15:13.289 --> 01:15:14.239
response which

01:15:14.239 --> 01:15:17.300
was the incumbent interfaith ministries Inc of Denton the

01:15:17.300 --> 01:15:18.319
contracts going to be

01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:23.260
increasing from 100,000 to 125,000 and the administrative

01:15:23.260 --> 01:15:24.279
costs are going up

01:15:24.279 --> 01:15:29.119
by 26% with this contract proposal the last two contracts

01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:29.920
with interfaith we

01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:32.409
did not see any price increase so this is the first price

01:15:32.409 --> 01:15:33.520
increase with them in

01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:36.640
the last seven years and it's specifically tied to their

01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:37.520
personnel and

01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:41.050
also their technology for their personnel they do spend an

01:15:41.050 --> 01:15:42.159
hour with each of the

01:15:42.159 --> 01:15:44.640
clients that are coming in to offer them a holistic

01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:46.439
solution because usually it

01:15:46.439 --> 01:15:48.920
isn't just a singular issue that that family may be

01:15:48.920 --> 01:15:50.279
experiencing so they spend

01:15:50.279 --> 01:15:53.109
time making sure that the customer knows about additional

01:15:53.109 --> 01:15:54.840
resources and also how

01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:57.310
that they can budget in the future with that so that's one

01:15:57.310 --> 01:15:58.220
of the reasons why

01:15:58.220 --> 01:16:01.939
the personnel expense is going up and then the phone and

01:16:01.939 --> 01:16:03.399
technology they are

01:16:03.399 --> 01:16:07.359
implementing a homeless management information system that

01:16:07.359 --> 01:16:08.199
's going to help

01:16:08.199 --> 01:16:11.220
us with the additional criteria that we're requiring and so

01:16:11.220 --> 01:16:11.880
that is one of

01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:16.180
the reasons why that technology is increasing as well so

01:16:16.180 --> 01:16:17.239
the niche

01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:20.079
criteria for the clients is they're going to be able to get

01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:20.840
assistance on

01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:23.640
security deposits now they'll be able to get assistance up

01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:24.720
to three times a year

01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:27.840
where it was only once a year and then also there's no

01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:29.399
required tenure at that

01:16:29.399 --> 01:16:31.939
address that they have to be there to get assistance those

01:16:31.939 --> 01:16:32.760
are the top three

01:16:32.760 --> 01:16:36.000
things that we pinpointed why our customers were being

01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:37.039
declined to be able

01:16:37.039 --> 01:16:39.670
to get assistance and so that criteria is in the new

01:16:39.670 --> 01:16:41.239
contract in addition to

01:16:41.239 --> 01:16:44.119
that we've updated the reporting criteria so we're going to

01:16:44.119 --> 01:16:44.680
be able to

01:16:44.680 --> 01:16:47.520
get richer data in order to understand what the barriers

01:16:47.520 --> 01:16:48.680
are our customers are

01:16:48.680 --> 01:16:52.000
facing so we know if we need to pull additional levers or

01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:53.159
do the additional

01:16:53.159 --> 01:16:57.260
criteria enhancements going forward and so tonight we are

01:16:57.260 --> 01:16:58.399
asking for your

01:16:58.399 --> 01:17:01.939
recommendation or consideration and improving this contract

01:17:01.939 --> 01:17:02.840
and awarding it

01:17:02.840 --> 01:17:05.680
to interfaith ministries we're going to report back to you

01:17:05.680 --> 01:17:07.680
within one year on the

01:17:07.680 --> 01:17:11.189
impact to our customers that this criteria change has had

01:17:11.189 --> 01:17:12.039
what the data

01:17:12.039 --> 01:17:14.850
results are and then if there's any additional adjustments

01:17:14.850 --> 01:17:15.640
that we may need

01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:19.270
to make with your direction and council's direction do you

01:17:19.270 --> 01:17:20.079
have any

01:17:20.079 --> 01:17:24.050
questions for me you're glad that you're doing this sooner

01:17:24.050 --> 01:17:25.439
I imagine summer is

01:17:25.439 --> 01:17:28.760
when most of these people hurt the most yes absolutely so

01:17:28.760 --> 01:17:29.880
and what the deposits

01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:31.850
being able to assist with the deposit you have a lot of

01:17:31.850 --> 01:17:33.260
customers moving in

01:17:33.260 --> 01:17:37.130
and hey and so I would actually anticipate our our May

01:17:37.130 --> 01:17:38.560
assistance going

01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:41.399
up and September and August are usually our big heavy hit

01:17:41.399 --> 01:17:42.239
ter months because the

01:17:42.239 --> 01:17:44.720
bills are starting to start creeping up a little bit

01:17:44.720 --> 01:17:46.640
contingent on weather with

01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:49.789
that so it'll be interesting how the enhancements and

01:17:49.789 --> 01:17:50.920
criteria what it's

01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:55.479
going to influence on those months for the assistant good

01:17:55.479 --> 01:18:01.319
data so we have we

01:18:01.319 --> 01:18:06.020
did we modify the budget to make it 125 this year this

01:18:06.020 --> 01:18:07.880
fiscal year okay and

01:18:07.880 --> 01:18:13.520
we'll revisit that we have the data back yes by the time we

01:18:13.520 --> 01:18:14.960
adopt a budget for

01:18:14.960 --> 01:18:18.000
next year yes yeah we'll come back here to know if we need

01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:18.439
to make any

01:18:18.439 --> 01:18:22.079
modifications to that but we'll be able to increase that

01:18:22.079 --> 01:18:22.960
funding now with

01:18:22.960 --> 01:18:28.800
savings budget so we're going to be able to absorb that I

01:18:28.800 --> 01:18:31.960
guess I'm I am but I'm

01:18:31.960 --> 01:18:38.159
not amazed at 295 organizations only one response

01:18:41.920 --> 01:18:47.720
it's okay they do a good job so any other questions

01:18:47.720 --> 01:18:51.359
comments do we have a

01:18:51.359 --> 01:18:57.880
motion on the item so I have to approve okay second and a

01:18:57.880 --> 01:19:00.640
second discussion is

01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:05.199
just a point of clarification is this a three-year yes sir

01:19:05.199 --> 01:19:06.039
it's one year and then

01:19:06.039 --> 01:19:12.039
with two years any other discussion all in favor say aye

01:19:12.039 --> 01:19:14.079
any opposed same sign

01:19:14.079 --> 01:19:23.470
motion carries thank you okay I think we've gone as far as

01:19:23.470 --> 01:19:25.439
we can with that

01:19:25.439 --> 01:19:36.090
going into closed meeting so at this time we will go into a

01:19:36.090 --> 01:19:39.119
closed meeting

01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:52.380
to consider okay it is 742 so we'll are back in open

01:19:52.380 --> 01:19:56.079
session and we have a

01:19:56.079 --> 01:20:04.000
couple of items remaining one of which is item E which is

01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:07.079
to consider

01:20:09.439 --> 01:20:13.289
recommending adoption of an ordinance authorizing the city

01:20:13.289 --> 01:20:14.199
manager or his

01:20:14.199 --> 01:20:19.539
designee to sign a notice of extension of the TMPA power

01:20:19.539 --> 01:20:21.880
sales contract for

01:20:21.880 --> 01:20:28.720
seasonal operation from some September 1 2018 to September

01:20:28.720 --> 01:20:32.680
3rd 2018 and then

01:20:32.680 --> 01:20:38.310
for seasonal operation from some September 1 2018 to

01:20:38.310 --> 01:20:41.359
September 30 2018

01:20:41.359 --> 01:20:47.560
pursuant to section 5.1.3 of the TMPA amended joint

01:20:47.560 --> 01:20:50.239
operating agreement and I

01:20:50.239 --> 01:20:56.189
believe George has a presentation on this chairman and

01:20:56.189 --> 01:20:57.399
members of the public

01:20:57.399 --> 01:21:02.960
utility board George Morrow DME general manager as I was

01:21:02.960 --> 01:21:03.920
mentioned I before you

01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:07.640
tonight to talk about a possible 30-day extension of the

01:21:07.640 --> 01:21:09.000
power sales contract

01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:14.720
for the Gibbons Creek power plant presently we we have a 21

01:21:14.720 --> 01:21:15.760
.3 percent

01:21:15.760 --> 01:21:19.039
entitlement or about a hundred megawatts in that plant

01:21:19.039 --> 01:21:21.359
based on a termination

01:21:21.359 --> 01:21:23.880
notice given about two years ago by the city of Greenville

01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:25.239
there's a trigger

01:21:25.239 --> 01:21:29.979
date of September 1 for the other participants to extend

01:21:29.979 --> 01:21:31.000
for an additional

01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:36.710
month if they so desire and so far staff of the three

01:21:36.710 --> 01:21:38.920
entities have shown

01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:42.550
interest just wanted to show you that provision it was

01:21:42.550 --> 01:21:44.399
approved by the utility

01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:47.029
board and City Council I believe or came before you back in

01:21:47.029 --> 01:21:47.920
September of last

01:21:47.920 --> 01:21:53.359
year that did allow for this extension for seasonal

01:21:53.359 --> 01:21:54.680
operation that were

01:21:54.680 --> 01:21:59.779
here today to talk about so I have received an extension

01:21:59.779 --> 01:22:01.680
letter for this

01:22:01.680 --> 01:22:06.340
30-day period it will increase our entitlement from that 21

01:22:06.340 --> 01:22:07.399
.3 percent to

01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:12.520
23.7 because Greenville is departing the project after that

01:22:12.520 --> 01:22:13.640
date and we'll

01:22:13.640 --> 01:22:17.520
proportionally share their remaining entitlement that they

01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:18.520
would have would

01:22:18.520 --> 01:22:24.039
have taken so what I can say to you right now is that we've

01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:24.359
done an

01:22:24.359 --> 01:22:28.170
analysis of that plant operation for the month of September

01:22:28.170 --> 01:22:29.239
and that the value

01:22:29.239 --> 01:22:35.720
exceeds the the cost of operation and it's a one-time thing

01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:37.640
it's only really

01:22:37.640 --> 01:22:41.399
just for that month it has no obligation beyond that and if

01:22:41.399 --> 01:22:43.079
there is a desire to

01:22:43.079 --> 01:22:48.189
discuss possible operation for next year's seasonal then we

01:22:48.189 --> 01:22:49.239
would take that

01:22:49.239 --> 01:22:56.079
up at a later date so there is an ordinance that I'd like

01:22:56.079 --> 01:22:58.079
you to consider

01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:02.689
recommending to the City Council that would extend that

01:23:02.689 --> 01:23:04.439
operation for the 30

01:23:04.439 --> 01:23:06.949
day period we've been talking about and that's my

01:23:06.949 --> 01:23:08.399
recommendation to you this

01:23:08.399 --> 01:23:21.159
evening okay questions so this this is again an extension

01:23:21.159 --> 01:23:22.239
30-day extension of

01:23:22.239 --> 01:23:28.680
our existing contract with with no future obligation to

01:23:28.680 --> 01:23:31.119
just if we want

01:23:31.119 --> 01:23:35.859
correct the plan is still for this plant to be shut down at

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some foreseeable point

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in the future right okay okay any other comments questions

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do we have a motion

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on this item recommend okay we have a motion to approve

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second and a second

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further discussion all in favor say aye any opposed nay one

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nay motion passes

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thank you very much okay item F is ACM update yes mr.

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chairman members of the

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board in your packet you will have you have a number of

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reports that were

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provided by staff first of them is first of them is a first

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quarter financial

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review report the impact fee capital improvements advisory

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committee and dr.

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banked here is here to answer any questions you might have

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as mr. Morrow

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just presented the Gibbons Creek plant closure update so

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that is provided as

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well along with a DME transmission and substation update

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that was requested

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from a previous pub meeting mr. Morrow and mr. banks are

01:24:49.609 --> 01:24:50.439
here to answer any

01:24:50.439 --> 01:24:56.680
questions you may have about those items on your future ag

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endas list we have a

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number of items that are coming forward to you in the near

01:25:01.920 --> 01:25:02.920
future I believe

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there was a minor typo typographical error on the energy

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risk policy it was

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believe on the agenda it was scheduled to be presented

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today that'll be

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presented on April the 9th the the energy risk policy

01:25:21.850 --> 01:25:22.960
update that should be for

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April the 9th so at your next pub meeting not today so make

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that correction

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I think that's been changed it has been okay okay okay and

01:25:37.359 --> 01:25:39.520
then and then for a

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new business matrix believe everything has been covered

01:25:43.479 --> 01:25:45.239
that has been requested

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so far there are a couple of items that were requested as

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far as reconnect fees

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for meters and smart meters along with the revenue

01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:55.319
reconnect fees as they're

01:25:55.319 --> 01:25:57.869
lowered that will be information that will be presented at

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a future meeting

01:25:59.199 --> 01:26:01.829
for your during the budget process so that'll be covered

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during that time

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frame and we'll bring all that forward to you then all the

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remaining items I

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believe were covered tonight okay nothing further questions

01:26:12.770 --> 01:26:13.279
on any of the

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ACM items no hearing none okay if we're concluding items

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under section five five

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one point oh four to the Texas Open Meetings Act any inqu

01:26:30.489 --> 01:26:32.960
iries from the

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Public Utilities Board or the public with specific factual

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information or

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recitation of policy or accept a proposal to place a matter

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on the agenda

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for an upcoming meeting

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hearing none is there a motion to adjourn motion second

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Alan second all in

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favor say aye any opposed thank you
