1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,259 April 24th 2017, Public Utilities Board meeting to order. 2 00:00:07,259 --> 00:00:10,080 Our first item on our 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:15,669 agenda is to hold a public hearing regarding and consider 4 00:00:15,669 --> 00:00:16,280 making a 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,920 recommendation to adopt a resolution for proposed 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,199 construction expansion and use 7 00:00:22,199 --> 00:00:27,199 of a transmission power line located in Bernard and Eagle 8 00:00:27,199 --> 00:00:28,899 Drive. So I thank 9 00:00:28,899 --> 00:00:36,560 Brian is going to lead us in this the presentation. 10 00:00:40,799 --> 00:00:43,719 All right good morning board members. I'd like to take just 11 00:00:43,719 --> 00:00:45,719 a minute to give a 12 00:00:45,719 --> 00:00:49,950 quick overview of this Eagle Locust transmission line 13 00:00:49,950 --> 00:00:51,560 project to remind you 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,770 this is generally on the south side of town, south of 15 00:00:54,770 --> 00:00:56,840 downtown and then southeast 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,109 of the University of North Texas campus. Those who were at 17 00:01:01,109 --> 00:01:02,039 the public hearing 18 00:01:02,039 --> 00:01:05,090 will be familiar with this graph that shows the load growth 19 00:01:05,090 --> 00:01:05,959 in Denton over the 20 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,620 last 50 or 60 years. This is no surprise to anyone who's 21 00:01:09,620 --> 00:01:10,560 been here any amount of 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,540 time as we've had new residents come in and new businesses 23 00:01:13,540 --> 00:01:14,920 come into town. It's 24 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,629 certainly there's been a corresponding growth in the amount 25 00:01:17,629 --> 00:01:18,760 of electricity we've 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,140 used. It's our responsibility as the electric provider in 27 00:01:23,140 --> 00:01:24,000 town to anticipate 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,299 that growth and to plan for it to make sure that we have 29 00:01:26,299 --> 00:01:27,439 good reliability and of 30 00:01:27,439 --> 00:01:30,250 course this is nowhere as true as it is in this downtown 31 00:01:30,250 --> 00:01:31,480 area where you've had 32 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,250 infill development and the University continues to grow. We 33 00:01:34,250 --> 00:01:35,480 had an open house 34 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,359 on this project about a month ago and based on the 35 00:01:39,359 --> 00:01:41,359 information and discussions 36 00:01:41,359 --> 00:01:43,659 that we had in that meeting and also just looking at the 37 00:01:43,659 --> 00:01:44,280 the facts of the 38 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,560 project DME recommends rebuilding this line in its existing 39 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:48,319 route and its 40 00:01:48,319 --> 00:01:52,030 existing alignment. With that said we did propose an 41 00:01:52,030 --> 00:01:53,920 alternative route and that's 42 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,269 certainly still a viable route so while we recommend one 43 00:01:56,269 --> 00:01:57,079 and I'll give some 44 00:01:57,079 --> 00:02:00,260 specific reasons for that recommendation none of that's to 45 00:02:00,260 --> 00:02:00,879 say that the other 46 00:02:00,879 --> 00:02:05,459 route isn't viable indeed it is. So here's the two routes 47 00:02:05,459 --> 00:02:06,400 that we're 48 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,129 discussing and this connects the Locust substation which is 49 00:02:09,129 --> 00:02:10,039 currently under 50 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:13,560 construction just just off this map to the to the right 51 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:14,919 there with the Eagle 52 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,349 substation which is soon to be constructed. You can see 53 00:02:17,349 --> 00:02:18,039 that these two 54 00:02:18,039 --> 00:02:21,189 routes share an alignment as they cross Carroll Boulevard 55 00:02:21,189 --> 00:02:22,120 but then as they get to 56 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,330 Cleveland Street the yellow route goes up to the north and 57 00:02:24,330 --> 00:02:25,599 along Eagle whereas 58 00:02:25,599 --> 00:02:29,490 the blue route stays in its existing alignment going up 59 00:02:29,490 --> 00:02:32,080 Bernard Street. There 60 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,379 are a few advantages to leaving it in its existing 61 00:02:34,379 --> 00:02:35,560 alignment one of those is 62 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,860 certainly the landowners who are currently affected are 63 00:02:37,860 --> 00:02:38,639 already affected 64 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,960 by it. They already see this in their in their area and 65 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:42,360 when I say 66 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,840 affected let me be clear we're not anticipating removing 67 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:45,680 any structures or 68 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,280 relocating any individuals as part of this project so the 69 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:50,240 the effect is more 70 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,240 aesthetic than anything. There are also fewer landowners 71 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:54,520 that will be affected by 72 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,919 that existing blue route it'll be 3 versus 11 on the on the 73 00:02:58,919 --> 00:02:59,680 yellow route. Now 74 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,370 the one of the issues there is the more landowners we deal 75 00:03:02,370 --> 00:03:03,360 with the longer it 76 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,669 would tend to take and the longer before the project was 77 00:03:05,669 --> 00:03:07,439 completed. Fewer trees 78 00:03:07,439 --> 00:03:10,210 would be removed on that blue route versus the yellow route 79 00:03:10,210 --> 00:03:11,599 . Seven trees we 80 00:03:11,599 --> 00:03:14,530 anticipate having to remove on the blue route and 25 on the 81 00:03:14,530 --> 00:03:15,319 yellow route so 82 00:03:15,319 --> 00:03:17,710 there's an advantage there and finally these two routes are 83 00:03:17,710 --> 00:03:18,360 about the same 84 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,300 distance or right around 3,000 feet but nevertheless that 85 00:03:22,300 --> 00:03:23,560 yellow route has a 86 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,069 couple of extra corner poles and there's a premium that 87 00:03:26,069 --> 00:03:27,199 comes with those so we 88 00:03:27,199 --> 00:03:31,729 expect a higher expense. Well unless otherwise directed we 89 00:03:31,729 --> 00:03:32,560 'll plan to have a 90 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,340 public hearing in about a month from today with the City 91 00:03:35,340 --> 00:03:37,000 Council and I'll put 92 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,800 that map back up in case you have any questions for me. 93 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,560 Okay any members have 94 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,000 questions Brian? 95 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,610 The just one question on the on the blue route the is there 96 00:03:53,610 --> 00:03:56,159 an expanded easement 97 00:03:56,159 --> 00:03:59,259 required? Yes sir that's that's a great question so this is 98 00:03:59,259 --> 00:04:00,520 changing from a 69 99 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,069 to 138 KB and with that comes an expanded easement. Okay so 100 00:04:04,069 --> 00:04:04,800 there'll be 101 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,840 some right-of-way acquisition there? Yes sir that's right. 102 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:07,680 For those property. 103 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:19,089 Either route we take will have to require easements. Okay 104 00:04:19,089 --> 00:04:19,519 and the just to 105 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:25,480 click just to make sure the decision has been made to do 106 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,959 gas insulation at this 107 00:04:27,959 --> 00:04:30,879 point. Yes sir. At the corner. That's correct the Eagle 108 00:04:30,879 --> 00:04:31,879 substation we're 109 00:04:31,879 --> 00:04:34,720 moving forward with the gas insulated substation. Okay. 110 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,800 That's right. Okay any 111 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:44,060 other questions? Thank you Brian appreciate it. We do have 112 00:04:44,060 --> 00:04:45,480 one request to 113 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:56,040 speak Steve Stone is here Steve. Just state your name and 114 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:56,920 address into the 115 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:05,160 microphone please. Steve Stone I'm 6827 Freeman Road in Cr 116 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,600 um. Essentially I 117 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:12,180 represent the owner of this of the track at the substation 118 00:05:12,180 --> 00:05:13,920 location. Have for the 119 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,959 entire time went through the previous hearings and so forth 120 00:05:17,959 --> 00:05:20,680 that that actually 121 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:26,269 caused that that station to be selected. So I only signed 122 00:05:26,269 --> 00:05:28,360 up to try to decide if 123 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,850 if I really wanted to say anything. I went to the meeting 124 00:05:31,850 --> 00:05:32,879 and I thought that 125 00:05:32,879 --> 00:05:38,480 the yellow route was the better route. But having to 126 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,279 establish new right away 127 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,180 the loss of new trees may mitigate that thought a little 128 00:05:45,180 --> 00:05:47,360 bit. So you know I might 129 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:55,750 really be amenable in my mind. It doesn't matter to us who 130 00:05:55,750 --> 00:05:56,959 have the the corner 131 00:05:56,959 --> 00:06:03,199 substation it doesn't matter. It seems like to me it's more 132 00:06:03,199 --> 00:06:04,480 I want to say 133 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:11,040 commercially applicable because you're going from what what 134 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,279 what is the the 135 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:20,879 size of a line going for up to 137. Okay I guess my only 136 00:06:20,879 --> 00:06:23,000 thought and since none of 137 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,889 the residents are here no one else is here to speak for 138 00:06:25,889 --> 00:06:27,000 them is that you're 139 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:34,480 going to increase that that electrical I guess radiation if 140 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:35,639 we should use that 141 00:06:35,639 --> 00:06:39,600 word in this meeting. You're going to be even closer to 142 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,000 those those town homes 143 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,050 that are going to be right there along Collins. The ones on 144 00:06:45,050 --> 00:06:46,519 Cleveland Street 145 00:06:46,519 --> 00:06:50,120 sit back off of the road. I did understand there was an 146 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,319 additional 147 00:06:51,319 --> 00:06:55,310 mitigated expense for probably an anchor corner post or 148 00:06:55,310 --> 00:06:57,639 something to that effect. 149 00:06:57,639 --> 00:07:02,079 So I guess I'm speaking on behalf of the general public at 150 00:07:02,079 --> 00:07:03,920 this point but only to 151 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:10,240 say I think the yellow line is a if new acquisition has to 152 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,439 be acquired for the 153 00:07:13,439 --> 00:07:19,019 blue line then I would think the yellow line would be more 154 00:07:19,019 --> 00:07:20,720 applicable. It's at 155 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,790 least to live with if I live there you know hopefully there 156 00:07:25,790 --> 00:07:26,759 'll be no puppies 157 00:07:26,759 --> 00:07:30,319 being born with five legs or anything there. So being so 158 00:07:30,319 --> 00:07:32,480 close to that line and 159 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:38,680 it's going to increase the radio effect if there is such a 160 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,240 thing. I know that I 161 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,810 was blessed to get with the sub to get blessed with a subst 162 00:07:46,810 --> 00:07:48,560 ation almost in my 163 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:53,720 front yard out in Crum which I don't know what you guys 164 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:54,839 call that station out 165 00:07:54,839 --> 00:07:58,939 there. What do you call that station out there? Not that 166 00:07:58,939 --> 00:08:00,600 one the one way west. 167 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,350 Oh that's an encore substation. My apologies. Your 168 00:08:04,350 --> 00:08:06,879 competitors slipped in 169 00:08:06,879 --> 00:08:10,500 across the street from a piece of land that I like a lot. 170 00:08:10,500 --> 00:08:12,160 Part of my my rural 171 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:17,810 homestead but anyway we hear the hum at night you know and 172 00:08:17,810 --> 00:08:19,480 I know there's going 173 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,620 to be some effect that this is going to have on this 174 00:08:21,620 --> 00:08:23,839 neighborhood. So I think the 175 00:08:23,839 --> 00:08:26,720 only thing I can really say without saying really anything 176 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:27,720 this is going to 177 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:35,240 affect a neighborhood. So do anything possible to possibly 178 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:36,879 mitigate and 179 00:08:36,879 --> 00:08:40,090 reduce the effect that it would have on personal lives. 180 00:08:40,090 --> 00:08:41,399 That's pretty much it. 181 00:08:41,399 --> 00:08:47,320 Okay. Thank you. Any questions? Yeah. That's what I was 182 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,919 gonna say. Any questions? 183 00:08:49,919 --> 00:08:56,080 No. Thank you. No thank you. Thanks for coming down. Okay 184 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,559 is there anyone else I don't 185 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,360 see anyone else from the public for comments but I'll go 186 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,519 ahead and make the 187 00:09:02,519 --> 00:09:11,320 ask and I'll ask again if there are any other comments from 188 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,000 the public that so 189 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:20,269 seeing none and we have no other cards for request to speak 190 00:09:20,269 --> 00:09:21,840 or indication of 191 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:30,120 for against or so we will close the public hearing portion 192 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,480 of this agenda 193 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:43,350 item and comments from the utilities board members. Still 194 00:09:43,350 --> 00:09:47,159 no comment. All right 195 00:09:47,159 --> 00:09:53,889 then is there is there a recommendation to make an action 196 00:09:53,889 --> 00:09:55,440 to make recommendation 197 00:09:55,440 --> 00:10:01,039 to the council on which of these which of these routes 198 00:10:01,039 --> 00:10:03,919 would be we feel be best. 199 00:10:03,919 --> 00:10:07,679 I'd recommend to go with the blue. It's impacting the few 200 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,480 est people. It's the 201 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,360 lowest cost and it doesn't cut down as many trees so that I 202 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:14,559 would move to go 203 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,080 with that recommendation. Second. Okay so we have a motion 204 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,200 and a second that we 205 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,759 make a recommendation that the blue route be chosen as a 206 00:10:22,759 --> 00:10:23,639 route of the 207 00:10:23,639 --> 00:10:32,200 transmission line. Any discussion on that? Comments? Nope. 208 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,440 Hearing none all in favor 209 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:41,720 say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Same sign. Okay thank you. 210 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:51,549 Okay next item we have is our consent agenda. We have looks 211 00:10:51,549 --> 00:10:54,519 like five items on 212 00:10:54,519 --> 00:10:58,480 the consent agenda. Items ABC D&E. Is there any member who 213 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,039 'd like to pull any 214 00:11:02,039 --> 00:11:06,159 of these items for individual consideration? 215 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:18,570 No. Hearing none then is there a motion to approve the 216 00:11:18,570 --> 00:11:19,960 consent agenda as 217 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:24,519 presented? Move approval. We have a motion from Barbara. 218 00:11:24,519 --> 00:11:27,600 Second. Second from Susan. Any 219 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:33,200 discussion? Hearing none all in favor say aye. Aye. Any 220 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:39,720 opposed? Same sign. Okay at 221 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:48,279 this time we have an item for a closed meeting so we will 222 00:11:48,279 --> 00:11:49,960 go into closed 223 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:58,490 meeting at looks like it's about 12 minutes after 9 and ask 224 00:11:58,490 --> 00:11:58,519 everybody 225 00:11:58,519 --> 00:12:04,909 anybody who is does anything to do with the items being 226 00:12:04,909 --> 00:12:05,879 presented 227 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:17,340 at 936 and under items for individual individual 228 00:12:17,340 --> 00:12:19,759 consideration item a is to 229 00:12:19,759 --> 00:12:22,740 consider approval of the public utilities board meeting 230 00:12:22,740 --> 00:12:23,799 minutes of April 231 00:12:23,799 --> 00:12:29,919 10th 2017. These have been distributed in advance and would 232 00:12:29,919 --> 00:12:30,679 ask if there's 233 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:38,750 any comments questions changes to those minutes. Move 234 00:12:38,750 --> 00:12:44,320 approval. That's okay but I 235 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,919 appreciate the thought. Hearing none those will be approved 236 00:12:48,919 --> 00:12:51,720 as submitted then. Item 237 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,559 item B is to consider recommending to the City Council the 238 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:56,539 adoption of an 239 00:12:56,539 --> 00:13:00,509 ordinance authorizing the City Manager or his designee to 240 00:13:00,509 --> 00:13:01,759 execute an amendment 241 00:13:01,759 --> 00:13:07,360 to the energy trading risk management contract with ABB V 242 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:12,120 intex. Yes Dr. Lance 243 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,799 Cunningham will present that. 244 00:13:21,879 --> 00:13:28,509 So we're here to discuss the ABB Vintex energy trading risk 245 00:13:28,509 --> 00:13:29,559 management contract 246 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:37,820 amendment approval. The current system that we have for 247 00:13:37,820 --> 00:13:39,320 energy trading risk 248 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:44,919 management software we purchased in June of 2014 and it was 249 00:13:44,919 --> 00:13:46,600 procured through a 250 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,539 competitive bidding process. In January the council 251 00:13:50,539 --> 00:13:52,519 provided direction for the 252 00:13:52,519 --> 00:13:57,269 renewable dentin plan to move to 70% so it's you know 253 00:13:57,269 --> 00:13:58,480 considerable time later. 254 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:04,379 The existing system is not flexible enough or robust enough 255 00:14:04,379 --> 00:14:05,279 for us to 256 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:08,860 utilize when we move to our renewable dentin plan. The 257 00:14:08,860 --> 00:14:10,759 reason is is because of 258 00:14:10,759 --> 00:14:14,480 the protocol requirements with ERCOT whenever we have our 259 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:15,559 wind assets and our 260 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,120 solar assets we have operationally have to do a lot of 261 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,519 changes, hourly changes 262 00:14:20,519 --> 00:14:24,039 and the existing system is just not flexible enough to be 263 00:14:24,039 --> 00:14:24,720 able to handle 264 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:30,759 that variability. Are there any questions over that? 265 00:14:30,759 --> 00:14:34,399 Because of this the staff is 266 00:14:34,399 --> 00:14:36,779 recommended that the Public Utilities Board consider 267 00:14:36,779 --> 00:14:37,559 recommendation 268 00:14:37,559 --> 00:14:41,360 authorizing the City Manager to amend the contract between 269 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:42,559 the City of Denton 270 00:14:42,559 --> 00:14:53,120 and ABB Vintex. Questions? The was there a second slide in 271 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,200 there? That's all of 272 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:03,629 this. Okay so I thought we had the the one that had the the 273 00:15:03,629 --> 00:15:06,240 savings and the 274 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:15,629 cost and the continued cost. Page three. Oh I'm sorry I 275 00:15:15,629 --> 00:15:17,080 skipped a page. 276 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:23,509 My apologies. Once we move to the renewable dentin plan we 277 00:15:23,509 --> 00:15:24,480 'll have a much 278 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,190 larger volume of transactions because of the way the 279 00:15:28,190 --> 00:15:30,159 variability of the wind and 280 00:15:30,159 --> 00:15:35,730 solar assets will be coming in and in working with with ABB 281 00:15:35,730 --> 00:15:37,080 Vintex there's 282 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,289 the existing software we have now is an older piece of 283 00:15:40,289 --> 00:15:41,919 software. They do not 284 00:15:41,919 --> 00:15:45,220 anticipate spending any more development dollars to bring 285 00:15:45,220 --> 00:15:46,440 that up to kind of more 286 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,990 of a modern standard. They're developing a different 287 00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:51,039 product that they're going 288 00:15:51,039 --> 00:15:57,580 to utilize so in working with them and having conversations 289 00:15:57,580 --> 00:15:58,200 with them over 290 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:03,029 the last three years it's it's become evident it's just not 291 00:16:03,029 --> 00:16:03,480 going to meet our 292 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,919 needs moving forward. This software is our system of record 293 00:16:07,919 --> 00:16:08,440 for all of our 294 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,409 transactions and the best analogy I can come up with is it 295 00:16:12,409 --> 00:16:14,080 's very similar to JD 296 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,580 Edwards that the city uses for its accounting system. That 297 00:16:17,580 --> 00:16:18,840 's the city's 298 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,610 official you know system of record for all of our financial 299 00:16:22,610 --> 00:16:23,840 s and this is the 300 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,009 EMO system of record for transactions and related financial 301 00:16:28,009 --> 00:16:29,679 s. The original 302 00:16:29,679 --> 00:16:36,769 contract price was 1.6 million and what we've paid to date 303 00:16:36,769 --> 00:16:40,159 is 971,000. The cost 304 00:16:40,159 --> 00:16:44,159 to amend the contract or shorten the contract terminate it 305 00:16:44,159 --> 00:16:45,000 whatever the term 306 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:53,059 you'd like to use there is $204,000. The savings so if you 307 00:16:53,059 --> 00:16:56,320 take the the 971 and 308 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:01,070 add the 204 that we would continue to pay then that 309 00:17:01,070 --> 00:17:03,279 approximately 1.1 million 310 00:17:03,279 --> 00:17:07,599 compared to that 1.6 it'd be 443. So that's that's where 311 00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:08,759 the saving comes 312 00:17:08,759 --> 00:17:13,799 from and out of the 204 it's probably important to point 313 00:17:13,799 --> 00:17:15,480 out that of that six 314 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,569 months of that would be it's a prorated share of the annual 315 00:17:19,569 --> 00:17:21,720 fee. We currently pay 316 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:27,480 about 280 thousand dollars so 140 of the 204 is just what 317 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,440 we would have spent 318 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:38,480 anyway it's just a six month prorated share. Questions on 319 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,960 that? Comments? Just to 320 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,529 clarify so we're getting value for the 204,000. Yes ma'am. 321 00:17:45,529 --> 00:17:46,200 We're getting value. 322 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,349 Yes ma'am. We will continue to use that software until a 323 00:17:50,349 --> 00:17:51,440 replacement is 324 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,960 implemented. Thank you. Yes ma'am. Okay thank you. That's 325 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,960 good. Thanks for making 326 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:06,789 that. Any other questions? Okay. Is there a recommendation 327 00:18:06,789 --> 00:18:08,519 or motion on this on 328 00:18:08,519 --> 00:18:15,779 this agenda? Adam? I'll move approval. I second. Motion 329 00:18:15,779 --> 00:18:18,640 from Susan and second from 330 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:26,519 Charlie to approve and recommend we do this amendment. Any 331 00:18:26,519 --> 00:18:29,640 discussion? All in 332 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:35,220 favor say aye. Any opposed? Same sign. Okay thank you. 333 00:18:35,220 --> 00:18:35,839 Thank you for your 334 00:18:35,839 --> 00:18:43,220 consideration. Thank you. All right item number item C is 335 00:18:43,220 --> 00:18:47,039 the ACM update and we 336 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:52,880 have the comparisons of employment metrics for water, 337 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:53,720 wastewater and also 338 00:18:53,720 --> 00:19:04,000 DME attached. Questions on that? Comments? I appreciate 339 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,279 seeing that done. It took me 340 00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:08,920 a little bit to follow it because there's a lot of 341 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,279 information there but I 342 00:19:11,279 --> 00:19:15,279 was very pleased and thank you so much. I know staff worked 343 00:19:15,279 --> 00:19:16,480 a lot on that and I 344 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:22,069 appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah it's hard it's hard to 345 00:19:22,069 --> 00:19:23,960 bring apples, bananas 346 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,910 and kiwi and make them look all look like oranges. I 347 00:19:26,910 --> 00:19:29,039 understand that and no 348 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:32,599 utility looks the same and so that that's a difficult part. 349 00:19:32,599 --> 00:19:33,240 You can't just 350 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,170 look at the raw look at the raw numbers and make a draw 351 00:19:37,170 --> 00:19:39,720 really a very well very 352 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:44,430 good conclusion but anyway. I'd like to just make you also 353 00:19:44,430 --> 00:19:44,960 aware that we're 354 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,680 planning a same similar report for solid waste. It wasn't 355 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:48,680 quite ready at the time 356 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,609 we wanted to go ahead and get this information to you so to 357 00:19:51,609 --> 00:19:52,400 the point from 358 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,140 the last meeting we're going to provide that as well. It 359 00:19:55,140 --> 00:19:56,559 should be coming next 360 00:19:56,559 --> 00:20:02,440 meeting. Okay thank you. Okay we also have the new business 361 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:08,039 metrics. Any additions to that? Any member would like to 362 00:20:08,039 --> 00:20:11,880 make? Okay if not 363 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:24,490 then we have concluding items to come before the board. If 364 00:20:24,490 --> 00:20:26,960 not is there a 365 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:35,759 motion to adjourn? Motion by Lillia. Second? By Charlie. 366 00:20:35,759 --> 00:20:36,920 All in favor say aye. 367 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:43,839 Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. Thanks guys.