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Good evening and welcome to the Plan and Zoning Commission

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work session for Wednesday August 8th, 2018.

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We will open the work session at 5.04. The first item on

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our agenda is clarification of agenda items, if any.

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Who is going to be running that? Should I call upon someone

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?

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Yeah, I'll go ahead and do that. I don't know if there's

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any...we'll go through, I guess, the clarifications.

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Okay.

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And if there's any questions on any of the consent items?

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Commissioner Beck.

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Thank you, Chair. This is for the PP18-007. I just...who's

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doing this? Haley?

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Sean.

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Sean, okay. Can you just refresh us on the status of Mills

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Road there? It's a collector's street now, I believe, and

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is going to remain one? Or if there's going to be any

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improvements?

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I can't speak absolutely to that, but I have not heard any

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mention of widening that at this time. They are widening

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Mayhill.

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Right.

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But I have heard no mention of doing anything of that sort

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to Mills Road.

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Okay, so no information as to we'd get maybe a right turn

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lane on Mills Road going on to the new Mayhill?

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I can't speak to that.

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Okay. All right. I thought I'd try. Thanks.

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Commissioner Ellis.

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You have questions on this item?

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I do. Oh, not this item. Sorry, Sean. No. But I do on the

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next consent agenda.

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Is there any more questions on this item? Perfect.

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Commissioner Ellis.

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Thank you. Haley?

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Yes. Haley, my question is the way number, the note number

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seven is written. So it states the drainage easement is

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maintained by the lots that traverse and are adjacent to?

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Correct.

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Okay, so does that include the lot that's adjacent below

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that's not part of this plot?

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And if it does, do they know that?

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And if it doesn't, then my suggestion would we need to

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clarify the line.

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Let me pull that up here so we can all see.

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Yes, so this is a standard note required in our criteria

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manual to be on plats and what it is referring to is

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whichever lot the drainage easement is on is the lot that

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would be responsible for its maintenance.

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That's the intent of the note.

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Right, but okay, so there's not like misleading the way it

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's written when it says traversed by or adjacent to.

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In other words, so you see there's a lot, so lot two has a

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drainage easement right on the south side, correct?

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That's correct.

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So there's an adjacent lot below it, not part of this plot.

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I can see your confusion in the language. I don't know that

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we've ever encountered an issue with that. This note is

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standard language from the criteria manual for drainage.

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It would only be for the lots within the within the

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boundary.

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Well, and that's what I thought.

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Right, so I mean my suggestion would be to clarify that.

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Maintained by the owners of the lots within.

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Subject plat.

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Yeah.

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Certainly, yeah, and I will say with the updates for the

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criteria manuals coming forward, hopefully at the end of

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the year, what that's something we could could hopefully

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try to tighten up the language on.

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I'd suggest it. I mean, it may not be an issue now or that

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we've never had it, but it certainly could be, especially

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if someone's not maintaining it and it's like it says right

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there an adjacent lot and you're adjacent.

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So I don't know.

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Okay, thanks.

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Any other questions on agenda consent.

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Haley, if you'd stay up there, can we go to item for be of

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individual consideration.

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All right, so this is a site plan for an I hop at razor

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ranch.

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So the request before you, as I mentioned, is to consider

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approval for a site plan for an I hop restaurant to be

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constructed within the South RR to district of the razor

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ranch overlay.

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So the subject side is outlined on the map in yellow. It's

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approximately one acre. It's currently comprised of all of

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one lot and a portion of another lot. There is an amending

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plat that's been approved but not yet filed to combine this

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all into one lot.

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The site, as you can see here is located along the frontage

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road of I 35 fairly adjacent to the new convention center

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for reference.

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So the base zoning for this area is the regional center

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commercial downtown district. However, as we've seen many

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times before the razor ranch overlay district shown here on

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the map encompasses this area and provides additional

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criteria on top of that base zoning.

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So what we see here, the subject property outlined in red

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is part of that South RR to district that's intended to be

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kind of the perimeter street commercial development within

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razor.

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Within the razor ranch overlay all site plans are required

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to be considered by the planning and zoning commission for

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approval. There are standards outlined in the overlay

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district itself for architecture landscaping and signage.

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The following things that we'll look at here the site plan

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the landscape plan and the building elevations are all

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specifically required to be considered by the planning and

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zoning commission.

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The overlay district provides criteria for approval. Those

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being that the site plan complies with that concept and

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schematic plan that we just saw this being in that are to

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district and being a permitted commercial use that it

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provides for compatible arrangement of buildings that

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wouldn't adversely affect properties outside of the overlay

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district.

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That there is adequate and safe circulation for vehicular

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traffic and that it complies with all the other criteria of

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the overlay. So we'll run through some of these highlights

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of the criteria that are outlined in more detail in your

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backup.

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Looking at the site plan, you can see in blue, the

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approximate building square footage of 4621 square feet.

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Within the razor ranch overlay, they are precluded from the

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maximum parking requirements of the city. So their minimum

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is 47 based on the square footage of the building. They are

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providing 66 parking spaces for the restaurant.

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And as you can see here, access to the site would be from

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one drive aisle onto an internal street within razor ranch.

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So no direct access to the frontage road.

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Looking at their landscaping plan, the site is required a

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minimum of 10% landscaping. Overall they have 26% provided.

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They're required to have a 25% tree canopy and what they

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provided is 46%.

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Apologize the highlights that are on the map there got a

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little bit off but you can see the general areas. Christian

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back. Thank you, Vice Chair.

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Quick question while we've got this up. So the entrance is

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going to be from the back of the building. Correct. Okay,

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and the green we're seeing there then is going to be

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covered.

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I'm assuming those are trash bins in the back there. Well,

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as I mentioned, the highlights are a bit off on the screen

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here. They shifted apparently on this computer versus mine.

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That's intended to highlight the landscape areas on the map

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. These are the dumpster locations in the back. So they'll

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be concealed though as you're pulling them? Correct. Yeah,

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they will have a screening wall around these, but the

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access will be from this one driveway.

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Great. Thank you. And one of the other main criteria for

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the razor ranch is the plaza area. So based on the square

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footage of the use, one square foot of plaza areas required

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per 10 square feet of building.

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So they were required a minimum of 462 square feet of plaza

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. They've provided 604 that would be roughly here in front

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of the building in what was intended to be outlined in

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yellow. And the elements they've provided within that are

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benches, shade trees and additional landscape plantings.

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Here we can see the building elevations. They've met the

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base criteria for razor in terms of color being the neutral

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earth tones. They do have some accent colors as you can see

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here and they are providing the kind of standard limestone

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that's featured throughout all the buildings at razor.

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So with that staff is recommending approval of the site

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plan request. We found it to be compliant with all of the

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criteria within the overlay district as well as the

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criteria for approval that were discussed here.

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I could stand for any questions. Christian back. Thank you.

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Just curious, are they closing down the other high hop,

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because you're going to have to I have something less than

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a mile from each other.

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Huh, it's too much I have for anybody. No, just curious. It

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is my understanding that this would replace the I hope that

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's currently by you and T, because they were asking for that

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extra parking place I just assumed that they would take it

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below from them.

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Okay.

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Thank you, Haley and I think you have the next one as well.

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All right, this request is for an alternative development

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plan for a parking lot expansion at the faith tabernacle

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church.

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So, this ADP is kind of twofold it's intended to amend a

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previously approved ADP from 2010, as well as to provide

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for some other deviations from the landscape requirements

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of the development code.

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So the site is outlined here in yellow it's just under

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eight acres total located at the southwest corner of Audre

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Lane and Latimer.

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The site has a base zoning of NR for districts that's

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neighborhood residential for in 2010 as I mentioned an ADP

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was approved for this site.

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When the church came in it inhabited an existing school

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building, and with some of the upgrades they found that

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they needed to deviate from some of the code requirements

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that being the 50% tree canopy coverage that was required.

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In lieu of that what the planning and zoning Commission

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approved at the time was that they preserve all existing

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trees on the site I believe there were approximately 54

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trees at that time.

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And then they added to the canopy by providing the required

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street trees and internal parking lot trees.

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They also requested to deviate from the type C buffer

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requirement, there are single family residences on the west

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and south adjoining properties.

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And so that requires a type C 15 foot wide buffer. In lieu

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of that they increase the total landscape area for the site

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40% minimum was required, they provided 65% landscaping

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overall to provide a greater separation between the church

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and the surrounding residences.

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Some of the requirements for that ADP were that in addition

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to the approved deviations.

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The applicant maintain the landscape and tree canopy areas

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provided as well as not increase the number of parking

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spaces on site.

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So to deviate from this requirement, the method would then

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be to amend the ADP, as we're doing here tonight.

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So this tables intended to summarize all the elements of

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this ADP. So as I spoke to, they were required 50% tree

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canopy for the NR for district.

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What they was previously approved was the preservation of

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those trees as well as the new parking lot and street trees

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.

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What they're proposing with this amendment is to maintain

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all of the existing trees. So the original trees on the

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site as well as their plantings in 2010, as well as to

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provide the additional required parking lot trees and

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screening trees to screen the parking lot from the right of

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way.

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That would increase the total tree canopy for the site to

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30%.

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The type C buffer that was required by the code, as I

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mentioned, they were allowed to not provide those buffer

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plantings in lieu of providing additional landscape area in

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2010.

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What they've requested now is to add an additional 83

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parking spaces to the site that would decrease the total

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landscape area to 58%.

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So they would still be well above the 40% required, but it

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would deviate from what was originally approved.

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And the other element that is new with this request that

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wasn't addressed in 2010 is the screening requirement for

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parking that's located between a building and the street.

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So the code outlines a number of elements that have to be

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included in that screening. It has to be a 15 foot wide

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area, contain a berm with a maximum one to four side slope,

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and then have either one large tree per 40 feet or three

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small trees clustered every 30 feet.

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And then in addition, it has to have either zero escaping a

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continuous shrub row or some sort of wall with a minimum

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height of three feet.

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Christian Smith.

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Thank you, Mr. Currently right now what parkings on the

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site as of right now, I'm asking for an additional 83 how

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many parking spaces are now, they have 103 spaces.

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Okay, I didn't hear that earlier. If this was in a

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traditional spot rather than an NR4, this is like an NRMU

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or somewhere else, you know, some other commercial use.

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What, what parking requirements would be needed for this

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square footage size of building.

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The required parking is just based on building square

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footage so it's the same regardless.

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Regardless, okay.

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My understanding and the applicant will be here to speak to

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this more tonight I believe was that they've always planned

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to have this number of spaces that they needed.

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The funds just weren't there at the time to provide that

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when they first took over the existing school building.

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Okay, they fall into any of our current code requirements

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for that to use some sort of per per unit material have to

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do anything like that.

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No, based on what they provided to us on their site plan,

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the number of classrooms in the building the number of

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seats within the chapel, all of the spaces that they're

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requesting our marriage just straight concrete and they'll

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be fine.

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Yes, that's correct.

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All right. So with the front parking screening that I was

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referencing that because of the existing site conditions,

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there's a large detention pond in between the parking lot

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in the street on Audra, as well as a drainage easement that

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runs along the frontage there they they weren't able to

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provide all these required elements

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when their engineer assessed the site he found that they

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couldn't provide the required barb without greatly

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affecting the site's drainage pattern.

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So what they've proposed is to widen the landscaping

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screening where they can so to widen that 15 feet to 20

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feet in the areas that aren't affected, or that wouldn't

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affect the drainage easement.

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And within that to provide a continuous double row of shr

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ubs in lieu of the single row. And then they provided one

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tree for every 25 linear feet instead of one tree for 40

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feet.

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So we'll look at those elements. Now, you can see here the

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existing church building, all of these parking spaces

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outlined in yellow are the new spaces you can see they

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already had a large number of spaces on the site.

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This would take them from 28% lot coverage currently to 34

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%.

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Looking at the landscaping in blue I tried to outline as

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best I could the drainage easement that's on the site. Like

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I said there's a large detention pond within that that they

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were, we're trying to work around.

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So in the areas highlighted in green, they have widened the

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required landscape area to 20 feet as I mentioned, and then

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increase the amount of plantings within that area.

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The landscaping would decrease 7% from what's currently on

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the site with the addition of this impervious paving, and

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then the tree canopy would increase by 7% with the

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additional screening and parking lot trees.

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So the code outlines these criteria for approval of an

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alternative development plan, the preservation of existing

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neighborhoods, this being an expansion of an existing use

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that's been there for many years.

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Staff didn't find any concerns or any anticipated negative

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effects from allowing it to continue there. Assuring

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quality development, what they've requested we found isn't

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necessarily to lower design standards, it's to work within

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existing site conditions and provide as much as they can to

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meet the code.

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And then focusing new development to activity centers. This

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wouldn't be in any way contributing to scroll as I

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mentioned because they're just expanding their existing use

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on the site.

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The other two criteria being ensuring infrastructure can be

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adequately provided. The site has already served with

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access as well as utilities, so we didn't find any concerns

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with that.

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And then resulting in an overall high quality development

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that meets the intent of the code.

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What we found is the proposed screening elements go above

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and beyond what would be required in terms of the number of

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plantings.

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They are continuing to preserve all of the existing trees

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on site as well as increase the canopy. Really it's due to

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the large acreage of the site that it's quite hard to

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provide 50% coverage with tree canopy on an eight acre lot.

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And then the overall landscaping is still well in excess of

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the 40% minimum that's required.

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So staff is recommending approval of this request as we

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found it met all of the required criteria. I'd be happy to

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answer any questions.

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See no questions. Thank you.

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The next item would be public hearing 5A and I'll invite

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Sean Jacobson to present.

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All right.

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When you are.

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It's all yours. All right.

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Good evening vice chair and members of the planning and

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zoning Commission.

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This evening I'm bringing a request for rezoning from john

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Featherston on behalf of victory and 288.

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The proposed site is a point 744 acre site on the southwest

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corner of loop 288 and East University Drive. The request

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is to rezone from the current neighborhood residential

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mixed use to a commercial mixed use zoning.

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The site in question is currently a commercial vacant site.

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If you see there we have one vacant building and some out

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buildings. That's the view from the road you can see our

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sign for tonight properly posted.

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The request currently it's a neighborhood residential mixed

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use zoning as you can see there to facilitate their rede

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velopment they'd like to go to a community mixed use general

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zoning.

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So the two criteria we consider when looking at a rezoning

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are in DTC section 35.3.4 B does it match the future land

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use plan and does it allow for if we permit it will we be

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able to provide the appropriate public services public

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facilities.

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So going to the first criteria we want to look at the

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future land use map.

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As you can see there the subject property is well within

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the community mixed use future land use area that's

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intended primarily for mix of uses that has a commercial

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focus and the community mixed use general zoning that's

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proposed would fit with that because it does in fact allow

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for mix of uses that are commercially focused in nature.

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The CMG zoning is appropriate in terms of the permitted

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uses and scale development there and by contrast the

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current zoning neighborhood residential mixed use is more

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of a residential focus it's not a great fit it's a as you

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can see we expect that more to the south there.

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The CMG zoning would fit better with the future land use.

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However, future land use map isn't it's not infallible so

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we want to look at what's on the ground right now.

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Currently the adjacent uses are primarily commercial or

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vacant. So again, CMG being commercially focused would fit

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with that.

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And the site itself is at the intersection of two primary

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arterials loop 288 and university drive CMG is designed for

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allow for uses that need good access and obviously it with

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two primary arterials, you have great access.

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So it does actually fit both of those categories, the

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adjacent uses and the actual site location.

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The second element would we be able to provide the public

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facilities public services if we accept this rezoning, as

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already noted it has good access to primary arterials.

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Water is provided on site as a sewer, and it's a previously

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developed location.

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We did send out courtesy notices 200 500 feet receive no

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responses.

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Taking all that into consideration staff recommends

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approval it meets the criteria we look at it meets the

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location to primary arterials, and it's compatible with the

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adjacent uses.

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And with that said, happy to answer any questions. Mr Smith

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, they must share Sean are they similar to both is planning

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on doing some expansion or remodels what are they doing are

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they planning to sell do you have anything from the

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applicant to know what why their request for the zoning is

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coming in.

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Now, Zimmer a Kubota is the property to the south there.

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The south of that location.

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The one this is the undeveloped. So what is, what is that

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right there is that the is that the, that, that, that don't

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shop and stuff then or is that the old gas station, it's

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the old gas station. Yes, sir.

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Understood. Yes, sir. Okay.

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Zapping going to be here tonight. Yes, sir. Okay.

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Another question I have is, is there any protocol from a

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city's perspective to talk to the neighbors of this

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property if it seems so clear that that strip should be in

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alignment with CMG.

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Was there any reaching out to Kimoto or the donut shop that

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subway right there to see if they would want to pull

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together the reason is that happen or.

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That's not a practice I'm familiar with I believe we

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generally leave that to owners to come forward with the rez

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oning request at the time that they find that to be most

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convenient.

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I don't see any other questions. Thank you very much.

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Absolutely.

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So this time we'll go skip ahead to work session report B,

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which is a project matrix update. Hold the discussion on

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rezoning RD RD five X and rural residential areas to

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residential district.

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It's all yours Ron.

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Thank you, Vice Chair.

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My presentation real quickly.

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So this presentation is part of a response to requests

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regarding rural areas specifically and don't rezoning them

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to future residential development.

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I think he came from Commissioner Beck on this particular

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item.

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So as part of that request, we're presenting this this item

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.

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Just to kind of give the commission a little bit more of an

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overview higher altitude wanted to go over really quickly

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on the comprehensive plan I know we've got a new planning

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zoning Commissioner here as well and just want to be able

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to offer that inside as well.

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As you all know, then plan 2030 was approved back in 2015

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it's our comprehensive plan for the city. As you can see

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this is what it's intended for primarily a guide for the

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city to use in considering decisions related to to lane use

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infrastructure, and the like and I think that relates back

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to what we're going to be discussing a few minutes.

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It is really a 20 year plan out seeing what what the city

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should be wants to be in the future. Moving forward.

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The plan itself has 10 elements from lane use to community

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character to mobility. There's themes that were used to to

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draft the comprehensive plan, all for a mobility community

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character, sustainability and community health were

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important themes that was used at the end of the

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comprehensive plan

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there is an implementation chapter that contains actions

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that relate back to the goals that were established in the

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comprehensive plan.

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And as any plan review and updates are necessary and

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comprehensive plans tend to be looked at between five to

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seven years out so 2015 we're in 2018 so in a couple years

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probably revisiting the comprehensive plan.

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Within the comprehensive plan there is a community vision

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statement, and I pulled this up, because obviously this is

00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:58.000
the meat of the plan. This is the community's vision.

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And as it relates to a rural areas, there is a particular

00:25:01.700 --> 00:25:06.000
section the community vision statement. I know it's hard to

00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:09.440
see so I've kind of recreated that section of community

00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:13.200
vision statement. And in that section, it's the rural

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fringe areas with the rural areas that we have here in the

00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:19.000
city.

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So the community vision statement states is that those

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areas contiguous in the future should be staged in growth,

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be physically and environmentally sound, reduce frag

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mentation of those areas and reduce sprawl discourage

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premature development and conserve as much future

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development as possible conservation development is

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encouraged, which retains rural character of the area

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protects our open spaces and our greenways and views.

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Also value our development values are greater, and it's an

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offer, it's a way to offer more choices to our residents.

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Lastly, there's a there's a bullet there that talks about

00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:09.569
safety and compatibility, as it relates to activities in

00:26:09.569 --> 00:26:13.259
these areas, primarily, as we look at the air to the west

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gas wall and drilling production, specifically.

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So, again, within the damn plan 2030 there is a section

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that talks about rural areas, rural area is a future land

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use designation in rural areas as described as an as areas,

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primarily for farms and ran chats, very low density, low in

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height, no more than two stories tall,

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primarily single family on large lots, which are suitable

00:26:45.109 --> 00:26:49.000
for the periphery of the city promotes conservation

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development.

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When we have the opportunity to cluster homes we should and

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conserve areas that are more suitable for open space.

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Again, materials, consistent with the natural surrounding

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of the area, rural in nature.

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So how does that translate to zoning, going a step further

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down a rural areas are transferred as you see in this chart

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, the area that is in green, our current zoning districts is

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the RD five, I'm sorry, yes RD five, and the RC.

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I don't see RD five x there because that is not a zoning

00:27:32.930 --> 00:27:38.420
district is just a designation so when it, when you look at

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rural areas were referring to the RD five and the RC zoning

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districts.

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What an RD five is, is as zoning district is defined as the

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areas that are very low in density in as used for

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agricultural uses RC is those areas that are allowed to

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have some rural.

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I'm sorry commercial uses, such as a general store, an area

00:28:12.130 --> 00:28:19.250
where goods can be sold and purchased. And then we have the

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rural residential which RD five x, and that again is not a

00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:20.650
zoning district is a designation in the x is just to

00:28:20.650 --> 00:28:22.000
distinguish the difference

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between the two. And these areas that are shown as RD five

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x are properties that were recently annexed into the city

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and not yet zoned.

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And the one and the reason why we have that designation is

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the section in our development code, which is stated here

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35 16 AG, and that any application that comes in again now

00:28:48.509 --> 00:28:52.210
it's in the city so it's annex into the city, and any

00:28:52.210 --> 00:28:53.000
application

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again, we have to review again something and if there's no

00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.460
zoning, what do we fall back to, and we fall back to the RD

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five as explained here, specifically in the areas or the,

00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:08.359
the language that is in green, and I'll just really, I'll

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read it real briefly

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or quickly that is for newly annexed land that has not yet

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been zoned.

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Specifically it's identified in the DDC, but also it's our

00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:35.000
lowest intense use or zoning district. So it makes sense.

00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:38.569
So that's why you have already five x's in certain areas of

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the city that were again recently annexed.

00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:58.000
So, where are those areas. I had our GIS folks prepare an

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exhibit I apologize if it's hard to see here. The areas

00:29:58.000 --> 00:29:58.000
that are in green the lighter green our zone already five x

00:29:58.000 --> 00:29:58.000
, I'm sorry not zone but rather designated already five x.

00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:03.119
The areas that are of a darker green, and even a lighter

00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:09.039
green, are your RD. I'm sorry already five in our see. So

00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:15.000
you see that almost 111 parcels have not yet been zoned.

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There are about 19 that are RD five, and then 12 that are

00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:25.099
RC. So the majority of these areas are RD five x, and we

00:30:25.099 --> 00:30:28.000
need to zone these properties.

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Soon, or they'll remain already five. The intent of when

00:30:32.549 --> 00:30:37.500
the property was annex was that the property would be zoned

00:30:37.500 --> 00:30:39.000
immediately.

00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:41.880
We haven't done that as a city, the applicant or the

00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.269
property owners that that want to develop haven't done that

00:30:45.269 --> 00:30:48.549
they haven't, they haven't needed a need to come in for rez

00:30:48.549 --> 00:30:53.000
oning because they haven't developed or if they do develop

00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:54.000
there within the parameters

00:30:54.000 --> 00:31:00.220
of already five. So, no activity yet on these areas and you

00:31:00.220 --> 00:31:05.759
can see the majority of what we see along the periphery of

00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:11.000
the city is already five designated as already five.

00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.220
Next, again telling us that there's not a lot of

00:31:14.220 --> 00:31:18.150
development activity there if if there were you'd see them

00:31:18.150 --> 00:31:22.039
in in, I think it was last planning zoning Commission

00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:25.890
meeting, we had an application, just north of long road,

00:31:25.890 --> 00:31:29.000
and that's probably one of the more

00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:34.319
recent areas that was rezoned from our zone that is from

00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:40.000
whatever RD five x to in our four or six with a condition.

00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:43.000
So,

00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:47.210
so the reason or the why why do we have already five x is

00:31:47.210 --> 00:31:51.599
there were why haven't we done it yet, and I blew this up

00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:55.000
here to show you that in 2008.

00:31:55.000 --> 00:32:00.390
We annex all this area here has shown primarily as we

00:32:00.390 --> 00:32:06.039
receive development activity, north of town and this is the

00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:09.000
the Craver Ranch development.

00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:12.849
The city initiated a rezoning, I'm sorry, an annexation of

00:32:12.849 --> 00:32:16.210
this area, but the Craver Ranch never developed, and

00:32:16.210 --> 00:32:20.460
therefore the zoning never took place. So it's been

00:32:20.460 --> 00:32:26.000
designated RD five x since 2008.

00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:30.849
Another explanation of why we have so many already five x

00:32:30.849 --> 00:32:37.039
is, is that in 2010, we the city initiated a involuntary

00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:42.079
annexation process of these planning area annexation areas,

00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:47.000
you see that we have four planning areas to the north, and

00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:47.000
the remaining

00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:51.779
RD h, which is referred to as donut holes in the city

00:32:51.779 --> 00:32:56.000
started this back again in 2010.

00:32:56.000 --> 00:33:01.000
In 2010, the areas in blue or annex into the city.

00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:05.630
And again they were never zoned, they were just annex and

00:33:05.630 --> 00:33:09.000
so therefore receive that already five x.

00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:15.220
In 2010, the, the city council allowed for non annexation

00:33:15.220 --> 00:33:21.000
agreements to be issued or to be granted to expire in 2015.

00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:25.309
And so, those properties that were not annex were subject

00:33:25.309 --> 00:33:28.000
to annexation in 2015.

00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:33.759
In 2015, the council approved on some annexation you see

00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:39.039
there in green, but also extended those non annexation

00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:41.000
agreements for others.

00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:46.000
And for another year to expire in 2016.

00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:50.109
2016 came around and we annex these parcels that are shown

00:33:50.109 --> 00:33:51.000
in purple.

00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:55.200
Not all of the properties were annex, the remaining parcels

00:33:55.200 --> 00:34:00.000
were again given another extension. And that year is 2020.

00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:01.000
So August 2020.

00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:05.599
These non annexation agreements of those areas that were

00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:09.719
not annex will be subject to again see see council's

00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:14.400
determination either to extend it or to proceed with annex

00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:15.000
ation.

00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:23.250
Commissioner back. Thanks. First year let me ask a question

00:34:23.250 --> 00:34:23.659
here because going up there in the northeast quadrant there

00:34:23.659 --> 00:34:24.000
, we've still got this.

00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:28.000
I guess it's et et j area.

00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.000
What prevented.

00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.750
I mean leaving that big hole there what prevented the city

00:34:32.750 --> 00:34:35.329
from going ahead and annex and that no come down to your

00:34:35.329 --> 00:34:38.000
this way. Yes.

00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:40.940
And then you're golfing that rather than leave it open like

00:34:40.940 --> 00:34:43.699
that it's like a big old hole in the year that we've been X

00:34:43.699 --> 00:34:46.010
what prevented that from being my understanding when they

00:34:46.010 --> 00:34:49.000
when they started this process back in 2009.

00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:54.159
There was actually PA five here. And then this was another

00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:58.309
PA six. However, they decided again council decided to go

00:34:58.309 --> 00:35:02.480
forward with this area, anticipating growth happening here,

00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:07.000
more likely in the immediate future than these areas so

00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:07.000
that was I believe the

00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:10.000
reason why they left these out but you're right.

00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:14.309
That would make sense but unfortunately they were. They

00:35:14.309 --> 00:35:18.110
decided to move forward with this area versus the area to

00:35:18.110 --> 00:35:19.000
the east.

00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:22.510
Okay, moving forward what kind of prohibitions or

00:35:22.510 --> 00:35:26.429
limitations with the city have in in annexing that area is

00:35:26.429 --> 00:35:30.000
there going to be some right concern.

00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:35.420
I think it's a little higher than that we have the state

00:35:35.420 --> 00:35:41.460
just approved the legislation that basically limits or not

00:35:41.460 --> 00:35:46.780
limits but rather gives direction on how involuntary annex

00:35:46.780 --> 00:35:51.280
ations are to occur, and it is a much more involved process,

00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:55.000
which requires

00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:59.309
the owners to vote to basically agree. If they don't agree

00:35:59.309 --> 00:36:03.260
then elections are scared are required to even to annex

00:36:03.260 --> 00:36:07.210
those properties so very unlikely and a little bit more

00:36:07.210 --> 00:36:09.000
difficult process.

00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:11.949
If the city does decide to go forward with future involunt

00:36:11.949 --> 00:36:16.000
ary annexation. Okay, great. Thank you.

00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.000
Commissioner Smith.

00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:21.440
In regards to Larry so continue on because it's in the ETJ.

00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:24.489
As I understand the ETJ it's a little bit like the Wild

00:36:24.489 --> 00:36:27.690
West out there anybody can pretty much do whatever they

00:36:27.690 --> 00:36:31.000
want to out there. Is that correct with no not not not very

00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:33.000
many restrictions no code code.

00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:36.369
Yeah, they would have to follow county requirements. There

00:36:36.369 --> 00:36:39.639
's no city is what I should say is no no city enforcement on

00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:41.000
anything code wise.

00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:43.329
So, with having those types of holes and granted it's a

00:36:43.329 --> 00:36:45.699
harder process but having those types of holes hilarious

00:36:45.699 --> 00:36:48.300
point now in that northeast quadrant, essentially, pretty

00:36:48.300 --> 00:36:50.599
much anybody can go in there and do what they wanted to as

00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:55.000
long as it met county land use and design standards

00:36:55.000 --> 00:37:06.039
yes, what we, the city does have is subdivision regulations

00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:15.090
through an area local agreement with the county. We review

00:37:15.090 --> 00:37:15.579
and I think you've seen plats that have come through the

00:37:15.579 --> 00:37:16.159
planning zoning Commission for those properties but you're

00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:16.670
right, nothing that we can say as far as land use or design

00:37:16.670 --> 00:37:17.000
standards.

00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:20.000
Thank you.

00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:23.679
Okay, so here's here's the, the map that shows all the

00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:25.000
areas filled in.

00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:29.610
Again, again, based on her, whatever the City Council

00:37:29.610 --> 00:37:32.000
decides in 2020.

00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:36.679
They'll either move forward with annexation or extend those

00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:41.000
non annexation agreements that is yet to be determined.

00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:45.059
I threw a couple slides here, just to help illustrate some

00:37:45.059 --> 00:37:49.000
of what I'm going to be discussing in the next few slides.

00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:54.429
I looked into this back in 1974 the city annex this segment

00:37:54.429 --> 00:37:58.000
of university drive this is east of town.

00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:01.849
This is mingo and the railroad tracks, and this is again

00:38:01.849 --> 00:38:03.000
university.

00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:05.000
When they annex this.

00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:08.000
They were trying to get out as far.

00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:12.610
My understanding is really to extend our ETJ boundary

00:38:12.610 --> 00:38:14.000
further out.

00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:18.550
They gave it an art to zoning, primarily because at that

00:38:18.550 --> 00:38:23.659
time before the 2002 code is probably the lowest intense

00:38:23.659 --> 00:38:27.809
use similar to what we have now is already five so they

00:38:27.809 --> 00:38:29.000
gave an art to.

00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:33.000
Now is that the right zoning for that area.

00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:37.019
Probably not. I mean if it's a commercial I'm sorry if it's

00:38:37.019 --> 00:38:41.000
a highway a quarter commercial probably a little bit more

00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:44.760
appropriate but now that's that's what we have we have our

00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:47.000
to along university drive.

00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:51.360
Another area is north of town. Again, as you can see, they

00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:55.650
extended all the way up as far, you know, pass my lim road,

00:38:55.650 --> 00:39:00.030
and again, received an art to zoning back in 2000 or

00:39:00.030 --> 00:39:04.000
whenever it was zoned, received the lowest intense use.

00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:08.739
And then in 2002 and we zone the entire city and received

00:39:08.739 --> 00:39:11.000
an art to zoning district.

00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:14.000
Locust is right here. And this is a high.

00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:16.000
I 35.

00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:22.000
So I show all this to kind of going back to the question.

00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:26.000
I appreciate the, the patients here.

00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:31.670
The future land use or the, the den plan 2030 has goals in

00:39:31.670 --> 00:39:37.039
the land use goals that are in their den plan 2030 is to

00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:42.280
grow compactly with purpose, grow with our, our assets and

00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:47.000
be resourceful grow with character and balance.

00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:51.900
Is a preferred growth concept again in our plan 2030 that

00:39:51.900 --> 00:39:56.000
shows the area that we want to see growth happening.

00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:59.219
You know, first, and I know that this is just a guy so this

00:39:59.219 --> 00:40:02.219
is just take it for you know what it is it's a guiding

00:40:02.219 --> 00:40:05.960
document. We see that we want to see areas around the

00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:07.000
downtown.

00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:12.780
The core primarily basically the core is loop 288 in I 35,

00:40:12.780 --> 00:40:17.300
you see that we have major nodes or commercial centers

00:40:17.300 --> 00:40:20.000
identified as growth areas.

00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:23.550
We see that there are some development here in yellow

00:40:23.550 --> 00:40:27.000
towards Teasley and South of town ropes and ranch,

00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:30.000
anticipating more development there.

00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:33.710
Now that there are also, you know, development, you know,

00:40:33.710 --> 00:40:37.090
seen here on coal range the future coal ranch, when that

00:40:37.090 --> 00:40:41.280
develops. We also have hills of den so those are the areas,

00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:45.510
again, along major corridors and along commercial centers

00:40:45.510 --> 00:40:47.000
where prefer growth,

00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:51.000
again is preferred, it's a guiding document should go.

00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:54.900
Where does that leave all the areas north of town or, you

00:40:54.900 --> 00:40:59.000
know, west of town where those non, I'm sorry those are D

00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:03.000
five zoning districts or RD five x destinations, go.

00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:07.829
It didn't anticipate it so for our purposes are for the

00:41:07.829 --> 00:41:10.000
plan 2030.

00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:13.849
Development is not going to occur in any time soon, and

00:41:13.849 --> 00:41:18.000
that we should focus our growth here, not only that it fits

00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:22.039
within the goals but it's it's compact, our infrastructure

00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:26.349
is within the core, and we're not extending our, our, you

00:41:26.349 --> 00:41:28.000
know, our infrastructure.

00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:32.369
Further out where there's, there's not much activities

00:41:32.369 --> 00:41:36.659
there, and physically we we can we can withstand some of

00:41:36.659 --> 00:41:39.000
that type of development.

00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:45.219
That being said, we as you all know we're working on a

00:41:45.219 --> 00:41:51.000
draft code update with that is a draft zoning map.

00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:55.550
And we wanted to share this with you because following our

00:41:55.550 --> 00:42:00.159
land use goals in our development activity that we've seen,

00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:04.480
we, we see that the areas to the north to the west, north

00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:09.000
and around to the east, you can see that these areas are

00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:11.000
still shown in green

00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:17.000
and that green is what we refer to as rural residential.

00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:21.079
That's what we're proposing, and again, ultimately that

00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:25.150
will be brought forward to y'all for your consideration and

00:42:25.150 --> 00:42:28.000
City Council for ultimate decision.

00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:32.699
But the idea there is that, as, as you look north of town

00:42:32.699 --> 00:42:38.000
and West, it's, it's meant it's it's supposed to be rural.

00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:46.000
But again, this is the, the, the, the, the plan 2030 is a

00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:47.860
guide. The zoning map is a little bit more than that it's

00:42:47.860 --> 00:42:49.000
actually in you, you have to comply with the zoning map.

00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:53.349
So that's why it's important that we visit this and take

00:42:53.349 --> 00:42:56.000
very careful consideration.

00:42:56.000 --> 00:43:00.139
And maybe this area here are closer to the loop. Maybe

00:43:00.139 --> 00:43:04.000
these areas are not rural areas, and rather rural

00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:08.500
residential but should be zone for residential. So, I think

00:43:08.500 --> 00:43:10.889
that's where we were asking and maybe that was the question

00:43:10.889 --> 00:43:12.000
maybe I went off completely

00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:16.900
the rails but if we are thinking of residential along the

00:43:16.900 --> 00:43:22.230
periphery of town. This is the time to start thinking about

00:43:22.230 --> 00:43:26.619
how we want to zone is as we move forward. If, if not, then

00:43:26.619 --> 00:43:29.739
we are going to zone these properties or the draft zoning

00:43:29.739 --> 00:43:30.000
of these properties

00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:34.309
are going to be our, our which is rural residential, and we

00:43:34.309 --> 00:43:39.000
will no longer have RD five x, it will be all zoned.

00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:42.000
So that's what we are.

00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:45.000
Let's go with Commissioner Smith real fast. Thank you. That

00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:45.000
's true.

00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:48.119
On the on the our our there where we said the Craven

00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:51.949
development was if we'll say there was a suggestion before

00:43:51.949 --> 00:43:55.179
we get through the rest of the DC update and do the new

00:43:55.179 --> 00:43:56.000
zoning.

00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:58.610
There's nothing we can do to maybe even suggest something

00:43:58.610 --> 00:44:01.289
that make that zoning more favorable to bring development

00:44:01.289 --> 00:44:04.000
towards that way is that something you said we can't can do

00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:06.000
is that is that is the.

00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:09.329
Is that a commission to you can see if a developer came in

00:44:09.329 --> 00:44:11.000
and saw that was our arm.

00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:14.750
It basically if there was an hour versus whatever they have

00:44:14.750 --> 00:44:18.400
there are are three or four when I knew the new DC says, if

00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:21.000
it was an hour for an hour for already.

00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:23.710
And would that attract possibly more developers to it

00:44:23.710 --> 00:44:26.500
because they would have to go the extra step of having to

00:44:26.500 --> 00:44:29.000
rezone from the RR to the R for a message is asking

00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:30.000
question to see.

00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:33.389
Commission possibly make that area if we feel like that as

00:44:33.389 --> 00:44:36.639
a commission that should be developed. Could we do

00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:38.960
something now to maybe at least make that area more

00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:41.590
attractive for development by getting I think that's a fair

00:44:41.590 --> 00:44:46.000
suggestion of recommendation to city council.

00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:49.000
The risk is that you need to be right.

00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:53.750
Of course, if you hit wrong if you hit the wrong area with

00:44:53.750 --> 00:44:58.610
with the intense zoning, then you're not going to be able

00:44:58.610 --> 00:45:02.000
to dial that back later. If you find out that it was wrong.

00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:06.309
What I think what staff is proposing is a more conservative

00:45:06.309 --> 00:45:10.449
approach that would avoid potential liability for down

00:45:10.449 --> 00:45:13.000
zoning if we hit the wrong area.

00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.000
Question. Thank you.

00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:19.000
Thank you. I share a couple things.

00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:25.219
Once we lose the RD five X RD X and go to our right. Does

00:45:25.219 --> 00:45:27.630
that become more complicated than we want to make some zone

00:45:27.630 --> 00:45:30.000
changes down the road, then make any more different.

00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:33.000
Okay, they would, similarly to what we've seen today with

00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:35.639
any zoning change request they would just come in and

00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:37.000
submit an application.

00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:40.679
Okay, and I agree with your concept that there are just

00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:44.920
certain areas that, you know, way off down the road that,

00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:48.599
you know, we shouldn't even consider developed but if you

00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:52.550
look at this map, you kind of see a pregnancy there where

00:45:52.550 --> 00:45:56.000
it's kind of pushing out towards the northeast.

00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:59.610
No, within the loop there. Okay, yeah, see how it's pushing

00:45:59.610 --> 00:46:03.179
out. And we did bring up that area along long road and how

00:46:03.179 --> 00:46:05.000
that area is developing.

00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:08.489
You've got residential that's on the, I guess it would be

00:46:08.489 --> 00:46:12.050
the south side of the loop, kind of pushing its way towards

00:46:12.050 --> 00:46:16.000
that area. And I want to control.

00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:19.739
And I think we all should want to control expansion of

00:46:19.739 --> 00:46:21.000
residential.

00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:25.809
That's why I'm reluctant to expand our three or two or four

00:46:25.809 --> 00:46:30.500
out that way but that at least part of that Sherman drive

00:46:30.500 --> 00:46:35.340
is what it is, is going to be eventually a primary arterial

00:46:35.340 --> 00:46:40.000
because it's going to be widen later down the road.

00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:43.420
And I'm hoping we can and I guess the DC rewrite sub

00:46:43.420 --> 00:46:47.219
committee to look at it too. That should be to me like

00:46:47.219 --> 00:46:51.320
suburban corridor, a mixed use thing where we can get some

00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:55.349
commercial development in there first, and then let the

00:46:55.349 --> 00:46:58.769
residential follow that, if need be because that's prime

00:46:58.769 --> 00:47:00.000
for.

00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:03.000
Right. Does that make sense. Yeah, yeah, no, definitely.

00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:06.480
And that that again that's the, the, you know, this was a

00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:09.000
recent case that the Plains on the Commission heard and,

00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:09.000
you know, obviously,

00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:13.000
we had this as our, was it the right.

00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:16.559
I'm sorry, the future land use designation I don't I don't

00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:20.150
want to say that this was already determined but because it

00:47:20.150 --> 00:47:23.530
's still draft, but the future land use had this as rural

00:47:23.530 --> 00:47:27.000
areas was was that the appropriate designation.

00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:29.869
Maybe not but that was just one time I think it was I think

00:47:29.869 --> 00:47:31.000
that's changing.

00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:39.900
Yeah. And we saw again, the other way you're proven 2015 so

00:47:39.900 --> 00:47:40.860
you know there's certain things that have changed. Right.

00:47:40.860 --> 00:47:41.630
The other area is concerned about but it's going to be in

00:47:41.630 --> 00:47:42.429
that area where there is a lot of growth was that stretch

00:47:42.429 --> 00:47:47.000
of University 380 out there, where it's in our to now.

00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:50.840
But again we were looking at least on the stretch of

00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:55.730
University within maybe 500 feet each side mate, making

00:47:55.730 --> 00:48:00.400
that more amenable to commercial development to and getting

00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:03.630
rid of that in our to right and then again that's why yeah

00:48:03.630 --> 00:48:07.000
that's a good point and I think that goes back to what

00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.989
Commissioner Smith was referring to, you know, what's more

00:48:10.989 --> 00:48:14.519
attractive you know what would what would you know if we

00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:18.210
can help you know track businesses. That's part of this

00:48:18.210 --> 00:48:21.809
effort as well and you can see that those areas that had an

00:48:21.809 --> 00:48:23.000
hour to propose.

00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:26.730
It would be more commercial. And so that's what we're

00:48:26.730 --> 00:48:28.000
proposing.

00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:40.150
Are you good. Commissioner Smith. Yeah, thank you. Chair,

00:48:40.150 --> 00:48:40.289
Vice Chair, I think I was saying is that with being our are

00:48:40.289 --> 00:48:40.440
we're just kind of letting it possibly just letting

00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:40.559
development come as it comes and if it comes and it you

00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:42.000
know hey it's sitting our now and you want to build a

00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:42.000
commercial here

00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:44.500
and then a residential there because patchwork but

00:48:44.500 --> 00:48:47.230
essentially as a commission have a little bit of power of

00:48:47.230 --> 00:48:50.039
saying, of course, you know to legal advice not making it

00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:52.730
too restrictive because they can come in but, but being

00:48:52.730 --> 00:48:56.570
able to come in and say something along the lines of hey

00:48:56.570 --> 00:48:58.000
let's make it, you know, our one or two,

00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:01.119
and we start almost like, you know, flies with honey we

00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:04.250
start putting out Hey, this is what we want to see here we

00:49:04.250 --> 00:49:07.599
want to see suburban development up this corridor. And so

00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:10.260
we want to make this are two and so that would tell

00:49:10.260 --> 00:49:13.000
developers that this is not just open for interpretation.

00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:16.219
This is what we want out here have let's attract the type

00:49:16.219 --> 00:49:19.289
of people that we want to come and develop that to zone

00:49:19.289 --> 00:49:22.900
that's already there. So, rather than letting it come as it

00:49:22.900 --> 00:49:26.170
may and commissions change over and maybe by the whims of

00:49:26.170 --> 00:49:28.510
it, they become as piecework together we can kind of go and

00:49:28.510 --> 00:49:29.000
paint the picture of what we want that

00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:31.820
there that's, that's true that's true future planning

00:49:31.820 --> 00:49:35.000
rather than just being a voting commission.

00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:38.570
But in a commissioners but just I just illustrate a little

00:49:38.570 --> 00:49:42.380
bit about what you just mentioned. See this area right over

00:49:42.380 --> 00:49:44.000
here. You can see my mouse.

00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:48.550
That's currently doesn't is RD five x, you know, we see

00:49:48.550 --> 00:49:53.210
growth happening on the east side of town as well. And so

00:49:53.210 --> 00:49:57.579
we, again, propose our to in that area. Hopefully see more

00:49:57.579 --> 00:50:00.530
development correct in that area so but yeah you I mean do

00:50:00.530 --> 00:50:04.000
I mean, where and how, in, in which area is

00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:08.349
something that I believe the commission can make

00:50:08.349 --> 00:50:13.000
recommendations towards.

00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:16.980
One thing that particular on that west side I think as we

00:50:16.980 --> 00:50:18.000
look at it.

00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:21.900
Just given the number of gas wells in that area whether or

00:50:21.900 --> 00:50:24.000
not it really makes sense.

00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:27.340
So maybe it's maybe it's sort of a lower intensity mixed

00:50:27.340 --> 00:50:30.969
use. Again, could be it could be a lot of things but, but I

00:50:30.969 --> 00:50:34.179
think if we go straight residential and some of those

00:50:34.179 --> 00:50:36.000
particularly out west.

00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:39.449
I think we'd be back again for a rezoning change. I'm not

00:50:39.449 --> 00:50:42.000
prepared to make recommendations.

00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:44.820
I think it's enlightening to know that we could possibly

00:50:44.820 --> 00:50:47.639
take a harder look at it and say, here's some here's some

00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:50.340
pretty good uses for what's out there is really a way we

00:50:50.340 --> 00:50:53.280
get a continuation of this presentation where we do see gas

00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:54.000
wells are out here here's

00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:57.460
what could be pretty good uses, other than the RR would be

00:50:57.460 --> 00:51:00.949
quick we could see an R one or two out here, or there's not

00:51:00.949 --> 00:51:04.250
too many gas wells in this area we could possibly see some

00:51:04.250 --> 00:51:07.809
suburban development here here there are gas wells here so

00:51:07.809 --> 00:51:09.000
maybe lighter mixed use

00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:11.280
or commercial use be better there. I think that'd be

00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:13.550
beneficial for us to be able to at least give you guys a

00:51:13.550 --> 00:51:15.000
direction and recommendation.

00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:20.000
Certainly, certainly appreciate it.

00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:23.219
That was my presentation unless you all have any other

00:51:23.219 --> 00:51:24.000
questions.

00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:27.289
Thank you, Vice Chair. So Ron, I think what I hear you

00:51:27.289 --> 00:51:30.639
saying is losing the already five x really means nothing

00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:33.949
because the city's probably not going to be voluntarily

00:51:33.949 --> 00:51:37.469
taking property and we're right with what you're less again

00:51:37.469 --> 00:51:39.000
again unless there's a special circumstance,

00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:42.570
then, you know, then, then, I'm sure the city would would

00:51:42.570 --> 00:51:46.369
consider an involuntary annexation but from what I hear, or

00:51:46.369 --> 00:51:50.000
experience I don't think that will be anytime soon.

00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:54.309
Does the state law now affect the non annexation agreements

00:51:54.309 --> 00:51:58.000
at all. You know that is a question that you know the city

00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:01.309
attorney, I have discussed you know the non annexation

00:52:01.309 --> 00:52:04.989
agreements were adopted or approved prior to the deadline

00:52:04.989 --> 00:52:08.000
or what the, the time that it went effective.

00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:10.000
December 1 of last year.

00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:13.909
That's still to be determined I can certainly find out and

00:52:13.909 --> 00:52:18.000
get a little bit more information and share that with the

00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:21.000
commission but I don't have a quick answer.

00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:24.750
Yeah, because I guess that my question would be is, if

00:52:24.750 --> 00:52:29.000
suddenly we've now taken that property, then what is it.

00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:43.889
2020, you know we get in 2020 what that zoning would be.

00:52:43.889 --> 00:52:44.239
That's a good question. We probably have to at that point

00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:44.489
zone that property. In my opinion, as we, if we do decide

00:52:44.489 --> 00:52:44.760
to go forward with annexation, we would zone those with the

00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:47.000
appropriate zoning at that time,

00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:52.489
and not leave it to any default zoning or default

00:52:52.489 --> 00:52:54.000
designation.

00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:57.539
Just just to add, if, if there is a use there they can

00:52:57.539 --> 00:53:02.000
still continue, I believe under the annexation.

00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:25.000
Opportunity. Yeah, well, yes, and at the end of the non

00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:25.000
annexation agreement, if it is not extended, then we can

00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:25.000
annex at that time. There's nothing that says we couldn't

00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:25.000
hold it in a holding pattern similar to an already five x

00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:25.000
what we call it now or the idea that it's just

00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:30.159
unzoned at that time and subject to zoning at, at some

00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:36.039
point but I think that what we're hearing is that staff is

00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:40.659
wanting to try to get more out in front of that and try to

00:53:40.659 --> 00:53:43.800
anticipate the needs when properties are brought in if at

00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:52.000
all possible.

00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:56.000
Mr Sanchez. Okay. Yeah, I kind of like that.

00:53:56.000 --> 00:54:03.099
Five dx because it kind of leaves that open to, to it well,

00:54:03.099 --> 00:54:10.239
the development is we don't. It seems like we want to what

00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:16.550
we're hearing is, you want to put in zoning, when in

00:54:16.550 --> 00:54:24.000
reality we really don't know how the city is going to grow.

00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:26.000
And then we zone it at that point.

00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:31.099
It kind of limits what you're going to do and to me it kind

00:54:31.099 --> 00:54:35.880
of puts a break on on what he just mentioned is is puts a

00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:39.000
break on it scares developers.

00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:42.519
I think the idea of you work with it, you work with the

00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:45.949
area and see what's happening there and then start

00:54:45.949 --> 00:54:49.539
developing it I mean zoning it not come in and annex it and

00:54:49.539 --> 00:54:52.670
then say okay we're going to give it this egg is

00:54:52.670 --> 00:54:54.000
designation.

00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:57.570
I think that's time or time or hands quite a bit. I think,

00:54:57.570 --> 00:55:00.949
I think development is something that flows growing of

00:55:00.949 --> 00:55:03.000
cities is constantly flowing.

00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:09.280
Once we start putting designations, we kind of tie it. And

00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:13.539
then we tie our own hands rather than let let the city grow

00:55:13.539 --> 00:55:18.360
. I mean, when I say grow I'm saying is we're constantly

00:55:18.360 --> 00:55:23.329
overseeing it here in the, what do you call it planning and

00:55:23.329 --> 00:55:27.000
zoning, we're constantly going back every five six years

00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:31.099
to see what's going on. And then at that point, but just

00:55:31.099 --> 00:55:35.130
annex an area and then given the designation I think that

00:55:35.130 --> 00:55:39.670
that's limiting our growth and, and then brings, it's going

00:55:39.670 --> 00:55:42.000
to bring a lot of more issues.

00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:46.000
Point taken. Yes.

00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:49.000
See any other questions.

00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:51.000
You said your presentation.

00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:54.000
Perfect. Thank you very much. Thank you.

00:55:54.000 --> 00:56:00.219
So before we close out the work session we want to take a

00:56:00.219 --> 00:56:05.829
minute, the commission and city staff wanted to honor

00:56:05.829 --> 00:56:12.460
outgoing chairman strange for a service to the commission,

00:56:12.460 --> 00:56:18.000
and so I'll turn it over to Richard for for more.

00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:22.320
We wanted to just thank Jim for the six years of service,

00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:26.570
and I haven't been here that that that amount of time but

00:56:26.570 --> 00:56:31.090
but I do appreciate having him having him sit as the chair,

00:56:31.090 --> 00:56:36.000
particularly coming coming into this position recently.

00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:39.219
He's asked him some challenging questions, and obviously

00:56:39.219 --> 00:56:42.289
has a different perspective being being from development

00:56:42.289 --> 00:56:45.500
community which which makes it, you know, it's good to have

00:56:45.500 --> 00:56:48.000
have all those different perspectives.

00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:52.159
So I'm sure we will will see you probably in a different

00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:53.000
light.

00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:59.639
But we did want to offer your or recognize you, but also

00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:03.000
offer you a lifetime membership.

00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:06.000
Time.

00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:08.000
I may sit out in the audience.

00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:10.809
A few times and hopefully we'll have the opportunity to

00:57:10.809 --> 00:57:13.789
continue to bring projects before this commission as I did

00:57:13.789 --> 00:57:16.659
before I got to sit on the commission and hopefully we'll

00:57:16.659 --> 00:57:20.000
continue to do so after and

00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:34.210
we'll reflect on earlier this morning. First and foremost I

00:57:34.210 --> 00:57:34.800
want to just take a few minutes and think peak camp. It's

00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:35.349
been six years ago when she called and asked if I would

00:57:35.349 --> 00:57:36.000
serve, and she gave me a very good warning.

00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:40.599
She said gas wells is coming up so before you consider

00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:45.510
taking this you need to know what you're signing up for,

00:57:45.510 --> 00:57:50.239
and I agreed to do that and that was a very fair warning

00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:51.000
from her.

00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:55.789
And then I was honored when Dalton Gregory appointed me two

00:57:55.789 --> 00:58:00.500
more times, and again to to serve for six years and so it's

00:58:00.500 --> 00:58:05.010
been an honor to serve serve six years prior to being on PN

00:58:05.010 --> 00:58:10.000
C with building and standards, or haps go board before

00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:12.920
getting the opportunity to serve here at PNC and we'll see

00:58:12.920 --> 00:58:16.139
what the future holds. It's didn't the community obviously

00:58:16.139 --> 00:58:18.860
I was born in and raised in and work in, and have enjoyed

00:58:18.860 --> 00:58:22.000
getting opportunity to serve and maybe there'll be some

00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:23.000
other opportunities

00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:26.000
that I can continue to give back.

00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:32.800
I have a lot of fellow commissioners there's been a lot of

00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:39.610
folks that I've had the opportunity to serve with before

00:58:39.610 --> 00:58:44.000
you all were here and they'll be. I'm sure a group of very

00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:44.000
talented people that will continue to come before this

00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:44.000
commission and serve on this commission.

00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:47.650
Thank you each of you all for making it a pleasure and an

00:58:47.650 --> 00:58:51.480
honor to to be your chairman for these last two years it's

00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:55.469
a it's a responsibility and an honor that I've cherished it

00:58:55.469 --> 00:58:59.000
sometimes I'm sure I've stepped on some toes.

00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:03.550
I'm sorry for anybody that that I may have stepped on too

00:59:03.550 --> 00:59:08.179
hard sometime but I hope also that by sharing my opinion it

00:59:08.179 --> 00:59:13.010
's helped not only our commission but mostly of all our, our

00:59:13.010 --> 00:59:14.000
city.

00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:25.039
And your faith in me to be your chairperson and, and thank

00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:29.000
you for this honor.

00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:42.460
Your presence will be missed for sure. So, best of luck

00:59:42.460 --> 00:59:51.000
enjoying your Wednesday nights.

00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:54.280
Welcome to the planning and zoning Commission meeting for

00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:58.369
August 8 2018. I'll call this meeting to order at 640

00:59:58.369 --> 01:00:00.000
apologize for the delay.

01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:16.179
The first order of business is to stand give allegiance to

01:00:16.179 --> 01:00:22.000
the US and Texas flag.

01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:31.309
I pledge allegiance to the Texas one state under God one

01:00:31.309 --> 01:00:34.000
individual.

01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:37.219
The next item on the agenda is to consider the approval of

01:00:37.219 --> 01:00:40.690
the planning and zoning Commission meetings for July 25,

01:00:40.690 --> 01:00:43.000
chair will open the floor to a motion.

01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:47.000
Commissioner back. I move we approve the minutes.

01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:50.000
Commissioner Ellis. Second.

01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:54.000
We have first and second will call for a vote on the board.

01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:59.650
We vote on the board vote by hands by show of hands those

01:00:59.650 --> 01:01:07.000
in favor for approval against abstention.

01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:14.000
The vote minutes carry for zero with one abstaining.

01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:18.980
Next we have a change in the agenda. We're going to go

01:01:18.980 --> 01:01:23.000
ahead and move item for a and cover that now.

01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:25.409
Item for is to consider and appoint a member for the

01:01:25.409 --> 01:01:28.250
planning and zoning Commission chair and vice chair we had

01:01:28.250 --> 01:01:30.000
a chair roll off this evening.

01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:34.000
And so that position is being vacated.

01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:38.000
The vice chair will entertain a nomination for the chair

01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:39.000
position.

01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:44.099
Commissioner Smith a motion to point Andrews L is our chair

01:01:44.099 --> 01:01:46.000
for our commission.

01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:50.000
I appreciate that. Commissioner back. Second.

01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:52.000
First and second.

01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:55.960
Is there any discussion or do we vote and take another

01:01:55.960 --> 01:01:58.000
nomination if it fails.

01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:02.679
See no discussion will call this to a vote will do by show

01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:05.000
of hands those in favor.

01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:11.000
Raise your hand against abstaining passes six zero.

01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:13.000
Thank you all very much. I appreciate that.

01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:16.000
Hopefully I can serve in a good capacity.

01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:19.719
Next we will entertain a motion for the vice chair position

01:02:19.719 --> 01:02:20.000
.

01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:24.880
Commissioner back. I move we approve commissioner Margie

01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:28.000
Ellis for vice chair and commissioner Smith.

01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:35.000
Second. Commissioner Ellis do you accept the nomination. I

01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:35.000
do. Thank you very much.

01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:43.000
With that we will call vote by show of hands those in favor

01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:43.000
.

01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:49.639
Against abstaining vote carries six zero. Congratulations

01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:52.000
vice chair Ellis.

01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:56.550
With that we can progress to the consent agenda chair will

01:02:56.550 --> 01:03:00.000
entertain a motion for the consent agenda.

01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:04.309
Commissioner Smith motion for approval and commissioner

01:03:04.309 --> 01:03:05.000
Ellis.

01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:09.059
Second we have a first and second is there any discussion

01:03:09.059 --> 01:03:10.000
on the items.

01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:16.000
With that we will vote by show of hands those in favor.

01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:21.000
Against abstaining passes six zero.

01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:35.329
Next we have item 4B SP eighteen zero zero one eight and I

01:03:35.329 --> 01:03:44.000
will invite Haley for presentation.

01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:49.760
Good evening this is case SP eighteen eighteen for I hop at

01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:51.000
razor ranch.

01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:53.449
The request is for approval of a site plan for an I hop

01:03:53.449 --> 01:03:57.480
restaurant to be constructed within the razor ranch south R

01:03:57.480 --> 01:03:59.000
R two district.

01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:01.219
The site is outlined in yellow on the map. It's

01:04:01.219 --> 01:04:03.000
approximately one acre in total.

01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:05.960
The site is currently comprised of one lot plus a portion

01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:07.000
of a second lot.

01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:11.000
The property is going through the planning process to reloc

01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:14.000
ate that lot line and make this all one lot.

01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:17.340
As you can see it's located along the frontage road north

01:04:17.340 --> 01:04:20.480
of scripture street and in close proximity to the new

01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:22.000
convention center.

01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:24.579
The base zoning for this area is a regional center

01:04:24.579 --> 01:04:26.000
commercial downtown.

01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:29.079
However as you can see here this entire area is part of the

01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:31.000
razor ranch overlay district.

01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:33.809
In particular this property is part of what's known as the

01:04:33.809 --> 01:04:36.250
south RR two district which is kind of a commercial

01:04:36.250 --> 01:04:40.670
commercial perimeter district for the southern part that

01:04:40.670 --> 01:04:43.000
would surround the town center.

01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:45.210
All site plans for properties within the razor ranch

01:04:45.210 --> 01:04:47.360
overlay district are required to be approved by the

01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:49.000
planning and zoning commission.

01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:52.000
In particular there are architectural and landscape

01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:55.219
standards outlined in the overlay district that are

01:04:55.219 --> 01:04:58.000
required to be considered as part of this approval.

01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:00.170
The criteria for approval of a site plan are that it

01:05:00.170 --> 01:05:03.000
substantially complies with that concept plan we just saw.

01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:06.030
So this meets that criteria being a commercial use that's

01:05:06.030 --> 01:05:08.000
permitted within that district.

01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:10.590
The site plan is to provide for a compatible arrangement of

01:05:10.590 --> 01:05:13.239
buildings and uses so as not to adversely affect properties

01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:15.000
outside of the overlay district.

01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:18.070
It's to provide for adequate and safe vehicular circulation

01:05:18.070 --> 01:05:21.219
and to comply with all of the architectural and landscape

01:05:21.219 --> 01:05:23.000
standards outlined in the overlay.

01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:25.000
So we'll look at these in a little more detail now.

01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:28.000
Outlined in blue is the apartment building footprint.

01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:31.000
It would be just over 4600 square feet.

01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:34.000
The minimum of 47 parking spaces are required.

01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:37.289
They are providing 66 on site within the razor ranch

01:05:37.289 --> 01:05:38.000
overlay.

01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:41.280
They are exempted from the maximum parking standard that we

01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:43.000
have elsewhere in the city.

01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:45.690
And as you can see here there would be a one driveway shown

01:05:45.690 --> 01:05:48.230
in gray that would connect to an internal drive aisle

01:05:48.230 --> 01:05:50.000
within the overlay district.

01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:55.000
So no direct connectivity to the service road.

01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:57.170
In terms of landscaping the site is required to have a

01:05:57.170 --> 01:05:59.000
minimum of 10 percent landscaping.

01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:02.329
They're providing 26 percent generally in the areas shown

01:06:02.329 --> 01:06:03.000
in green.

01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:06.000
They're required 25 percent tree canopy at maturity.

01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:08.820
The trees they're planting would provide 46 percent canopy

01:06:08.820 --> 01:06:10.000
coverage for the site.

01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:13.590
Another criteria of razor ranch is to provide plaza areas

01:06:13.590 --> 01:06:16.000
for pedestrians on each property.

01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:18.980
They're providing a 604 square feet of plaza that would

01:06:18.980 --> 01:06:22.360
include benches, shade trees in close proximity and then

01:06:22.360 --> 01:06:25.000
some additional planters outside the front of the building.

01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:30.000
And that area is generally shown in yellow.

01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:32.000
Here you can see the building elevations.

01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:34.559
So they are meeting the building material and color palette

01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:36.000
requirements for razor ranch.

01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:38.210
As I'm sure you're familiar with there's a general neutral

01:06:38.210 --> 01:06:40.309
earth tone theme that's carried throughout all of the

01:06:40.309 --> 01:06:41.000
buildings there.

01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:44.440
As well as a requirement for some native Texas limestone on

01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:46.000
each of the buildings.

01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:50.000
So this is providing for those elements.

01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:52.340
With that staff is recommending approval of the request as

01:06:52.340 --> 01:06:54.619
we found it to be compliant with all the regulations of the

01:06:54.619 --> 01:06:57.369
razor ranch overlay district as well as the criteria for

01:06:57.369 --> 01:06:58.000
approval.

01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:01.000
And I'd be happy to stand for any questions.

01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:03.000
Thank you Haley.

01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:05.000
There are no questions at this time.

01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:06.000
Thank you very much.

01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:07.000
Oh never mind.

01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:09.000
Commissioner Ellis.

01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:10.000
Thank you Chair.

01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:14.230
Haley you mentioned in work session that there's part of

01:07:14.230 --> 01:07:17.000
another lot and the plant has not been filed yet.

01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:19.000
Is that on them to file it.

01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:21.000
So the plot has been through the approval process.

01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:22.000
It was an amending plot.

01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:24.760
So it's a approval by staff under the local government code

01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:25.000
.

01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:26.000
So it's been approved.

01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:29.019
They just haven't brought in the execution package to have

01:07:29.019 --> 01:07:30.000
that filed yet.

01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:32.000
But obviously they will and they would need to.

01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:33.000
Yes.

01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:34.000
Yes.

01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:37.000
That will be done.

01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:41.000
I think that's it.

01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:44.000
This item is an individual individual consideration item.

01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:50.000
If there's anyone to speak they can speak on this item.

01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:52.460
If you want to speak and come up we just need to fill out a

01:07:52.460 --> 01:07:54.000
card after before you leave.

01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:56.000
But you're more welcome to step forward.

01:07:56.000 --> 01:08:00.000
We just need your name and address.

01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:01.000
Good evening ladies and gentlemen of the commission.

01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:03.000
I appreciate you having me here today.

01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:04.000
My name is Michael Walden.

01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:07.000
I'm the director of construction facility services for IHOP

01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:07.000
.

01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:10.099
We just want to let you know that we're very excited to

01:08:10.099 --> 01:08:12.000
have the opportunity to move and be part of Razor Ranch.

01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:14.329
As you know we'll be closing down our own location as the

01:08:14.329 --> 01:08:17.000
university continues to expand and grow.

01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:21.560
And it's just been an exciting opportunity to work with H

01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:23.000
aley and the team.

01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:25.840
And we appreciate the hard work of the entire city staff

01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:27.000
and city of Denver.

01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:28.000
It's been a great experience.

01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:29.000
We thank you.

01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:31.000
Great.

01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:37.000
I don't see any questions but thank you for being here.

01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:42.000
With that the chair will entertain a motion.

01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:45.000
Commissioner Smith.

01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:46.000
And Commissioner Ellis.

01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:47.000
Second.

01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:48.000
We have a first and second.

01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:51.000
Any discussion?

01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:53.000
Seeing none we will vote by show of hands.

01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:57.000
Those in favor?

01:08:57.000 --> 01:09:02.000
Opposed?

01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:05.000
Six against abstain.

01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:08.000
The item is approved 6-0.

01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:12.000
Congratulations.

01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:24.000
Next I'll invite Haley back up for item 4C ADP 18-5.

01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:28.939
This is a parking lot expansion at the faith tabernacle

01:09:28.939 --> 01:09:30.000
church.

01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:33.000
The purpose of this ADP is kind of dual fold.

01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:35.649
There was an original ADP approved for the site in 2010

01:09:35.649 --> 01:09:38.000
that would be amended with this approval.

01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:41.300
As well as some new deviations being requested from the

01:09:41.300 --> 01:09:44.739
landscaping requirements contained in subchapter 13 of the

01:09:44.739 --> 01:09:46.000
development code.

01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:49.000
The property is outlined here in yellow on the map.

01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:51.000
It is just under eight acres in total.

01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:54.020
Located at the southwest corner of Audreau lane and Lat

01:09:54.020 --> 01:09:55.000
imore street.

01:09:55.000 --> 01:10:00.000
The property is zoned neighborhood residential 4.

01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:01.000
A little bit of history.

01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:04.529
In 2010 as I mentioned an ADP was approved that granted a

01:10:04.529 --> 01:10:08.000
few deviations from the codes landscaping requirements.

01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:11.289
The first of those being a reduction in the minimum tree

01:10:11.289 --> 01:10:12.000
canopy.

01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:16.000
50% canopy coverage is required for the NR4 district.

01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:18.420
Given the large size of the site that was difficult to

01:10:18.420 --> 01:10:19.000
attain.

01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:22.000
So the planning and zoning commission at that time approved

01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:24.970
a lower percentage that was comprised of all existing trees

01:10:24.970 --> 01:10:26.000
on the site being preserved.

01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:30.039
And the new trees being planted as street trees and parking

01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:31.000
lot trees.

01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:34.229
Additionally they had requested to deviate from the buffer

01:10:34.229 --> 01:10:37.449
requirement because of the close proximity of residential

01:10:37.449 --> 01:10:38.000
uses.

01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:41.000
A 15 foot type C buffer was required on the south and west

01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:42.000
property lines.

01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:44.890
In lieu of providing the buffer plantings they provided

01:10:44.890 --> 01:10:48.210
additional landscape area on the site to help create more

01:10:48.210 --> 01:10:51.500
separation between the church and the residential uses

01:10:51.500 --> 01:10:52.000
nearby.

01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:55.050
And as kind of the conditions of approval of that plat was

01:10:55.050 --> 01:10:58.369
that the applicant maintained the landscape and tree canopy

01:10:58.369 --> 01:11:00.000
area approved under the ADP.

01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:02.560
As well as not increase the number of parking spaces on

01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:03.000
site.

01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:06.729
So to add additional parking and deviate from what was

01:11:06.729 --> 01:11:10.000
approved that brings us back here tonight.

01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:13.619
Kind of a brief summary of what was approved then and what

01:11:13.619 --> 01:11:15.000
's requested now.

01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:17.640
As I mentioned in terms of the tree canopy they were unable

01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:19.000
to provide that 50%.

01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:21.840
What was approved was the preservation of 54 existing trees

01:11:21.840 --> 01:11:22.000
.

01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:25.850
As well as the provision of new trees to bring them to 22.8

01:11:25.850 --> 01:11:27.000
% landscaping.

01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:29.329
What you'll see here on the plans tonight is again to

01:11:29.329 --> 01:11:31.000
maintain all of the existing trees.

01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:34.850
And provide additional trees by way of parking lot trees

01:11:34.850 --> 01:11:39.000
and screening that would increase the canopy to 30%.

01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:42.039
The type C buffer as I mentioned they were approved to not

01:11:42.039 --> 01:11:45.439
provide the buffer plantings by providing greater landscape

01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:46.000
area.

01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:48.000
So that would be affected by this.

01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:51.000
They're adding 83 spaces to 103 that are already on site.

01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:54.220
So that would increase the lot coverage and decrease the

01:11:54.220 --> 01:11:56.000
landscape area to 58%.

01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:58.600
And then as I mentioned front parking screening is the

01:11:58.600 --> 01:12:02.000
other component here was not addressed in the 2010 ADP.

01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:04.640
But the code does require when parking is between the

01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:07.520
building and the street that a 15 foot wide landscape

01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:09.000
screening area be provided.

01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:12.460
That contains a berm, a certain number of tree plantings

01:12:12.460 --> 01:12:15.000
and either shrubs or some sort of wall.

01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:18.359
What the applicant has proposed is in areas where they're

01:12:18.359 --> 01:12:21.649
able to to not interfere with the drainage and tension on

01:12:21.649 --> 01:12:22.000
site.

01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:26.079
To provide a 20 foot wide landscape area with a double row

01:12:26.079 --> 01:12:29.000
of shrubs and increased number of trees.

01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:31.449
So just looking at the proposed site plan you can see

01:12:31.449 --> 01:12:34.100
outlined in yellow the general areas where new parking

01:12:34.100 --> 01:12:35.000
would be provided.

01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:37.890
As I mentioned there's 83 more spaces in addition to the

01:12:37.890 --> 01:12:40.000
103 that are already approved.

01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:45.489
They would decrease the lot coverage from 34% to 28% with

01:12:45.489 --> 01:12:47.000
this addition.

01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:50.300
In terms of landscaping outlined in the grayish blue color

01:12:50.300 --> 01:12:53.260
is that drainage facility or tension facility that I

01:12:53.260 --> 01:12:54.000
mentioned.

01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:56.829
That created some complications because as you can see the

01:12:56.829 --> 01:12:59.000
parking already butts up against that.

01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:01.590
So it's hard for them to provide for the required landsca

01:13:01.590 --> 01:13:03.000
ping and berm in that area.

01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:06.220
So what they have proposed in the areas outlined in green

01:13:06.220 --> 01:13:09.409
are the new plantings on site in front of the parking would

01:13:09.409 --> 01:13:12.909
be that 20 foot wide area that I referenced that contained

01:13:12.909 --> 01:13:16.340
one tree per 25 feet as well as a double row of evergreen

01:13:16.340 --> 01:13:17.000
shrubs.

01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:21.310
The total site landscaping would be decreased by 7% but the

01:13:21.310 --> 01:13:25.069
canopy coverage for the site would increase by 7% as a

01:13:25.069 --> 01:13:27.000
result of this change.

01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:29.560
There are several criteria for approval of an ADP so I'll

01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:31.000
run through those briefly.

01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:34.220
The preservation of existing neighborhoods we did not

01:13:34.220 --> 01:13:37.260
identify any concerns there as this is the expansion of

01:13:37.260 --> 01:13:39.000
parking for an existing use.

01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:41.630
In terms of assuring a quality development we found that

01:13:41.630 --> 01:13:44.489
what they're requesting isn't necessarily lowering design

01:13:44.489 --> 01:13:47.189
standards it's just providing an alternative that works

01:13:47.189 --> 01:13:50.000
with the existing drainage and engineering of the site.

01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:53.359
And then this would not be in any way contributing to spraw

01:13:53.359 --> 01:13:56.720
l because it's just a continuation and expansion of their

01:13:56.720 --> 01:13:57.000
use.

01:13:57.000 --> 01:13:59.779
Infrastructure is already provided to the site served by

01:13:59.779 --> 01:14:02.000
utilities as well as access to roadways.

01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:04.739
And then in terms of this being a high quality development

01:14:04.739 --> 01:14:07.380
they are providing above and beyond the plantings that

01:14:07.380 --> 01:14:10.000
would be required for that screening area just an

01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:11.000
alternative locations.

01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:13.899
They're continuing to preserve all the trees as was

01:14:13.899 --> 01:14:17.279
required by the previous ADP and they are still maintaining

01:14:17.279 --> 01:14:21.000
landscaping area that's well in excess of the 40% minimum.

01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:23.609
With that staff is recommending approval of the request as

01:14:23.609 --> 01:14:26.000
we found it to meet all the criteria for approval.

01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:29.000
I'd be happy to stand for any questions.

01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:34.359
Thank you Haley. I do not see any questions. Appreciate the

01:14:34.359 --> 01:14:35.000
presentation.

01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:38.720
This item is for individual consideration. You are open to

01:14:38.720 --> 01:14:41.359
speak on the item if you'd like to speak if anyone here

01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:44.180
would like to speak I don't have any cards but you're more

01:14:44.180 --> 01:14:47.000
than welcome to speak.

01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:52.100
Seeing none we'll move to a discussion or motion.

01:14:52.100 --> 01:14:53.000
Commissioner Smith.

01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:55.000
Motion to approve.

01:14:55.000 --> 01:14:58.000
Commissioner Sanchez.

01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:01.000
I'll second is there any discussion.

01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:04.529
Seeing no Commissioner Ellis. Thank you Chair. Just wanted

01:15:04.529 --> 01:15:07.000
to thank Haley for putting this together so nicely.

01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:10.729
It was great to see you know the requirement the background

01:15:10.729 --> 01:15:11.000
.

01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:15.369
So well and how it relates to the current request. So thank

01:15:15.369 --> 01:15:16.000
you.

01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:18.000
Good point.

01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:22.220
Seeing no further discussion will call for a vote by show

01:15:22.220 --> 01:15:24.000
of hands those in favor.

01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:31.000
Against abstaining. Item carries six zero.

01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:40.739
Next on the agenda is public hearing Z 18 dash 12 I'll

01:15:40.739 --> 01:15:50.090
invite Sean Jacobson presentation and with that I'll also

01:15:50.090 --> 01:15:56.000
open the public hearing for the item.

01:15:56.000 --> 01:15:57.659
Good evening. Good evening chair and members of the

01:15:57.659 --> 01:15:58.000
commission.

01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:02.039
Tonight I'm presenting a rezoning request on behalf of John

01:16:02.039 --> 01:16:06.569
Featherston who's here for victory in 288 LLC is here if

01:16:06.569 --> 01:16:09.000
you have questions afterwards.

01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:12.770
The property in question is at the southwest corner of the

01:16:12.770 --> 01:16:17.529
intersection of loop 288 and East University Drive say 0.7

01:16:17.529 --> 01:16:21.189
44 acre site and they're requesting a rezoning from

01:16:21.189 --> 01:16:25.119
neighborhood residential mixed use to community mixed use

01:16:25.119 --> 01:16:26.000
general.

01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:30.000
Currently the site is basically a vacant commercial site.

01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:34.000
You have one large vacant building and then some outbuild

01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:36.000
ings around that site there.

01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:40.739
Current zoning neighborhood residential mixed use proposed

01:16:40.739 --> 01:16:43.000
community mixed use general.

01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:46.550
When we're assessing a rezoning request we look at DDC

01:16:46.550 --> 01:16:51.010
section 35.3.4 B and we consider whether it aligns the

01:16:51.010 --> 01:16:54.640
proposed zoning aligns with the future land use plan as

01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:58.199
well as if the requested zoning was allowed whether we

01:16:58.199 --> 01:17:02.000
would be able to provide adequate public facilities public

01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:03.000
services.

01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:06.239
So taking that first question looking at the future land

01:17:06.239 --> 01:17:09.229
use map we see that the property in question is in the

01:17:09.229 --> 01:17:12.500
community mixed use area and it turns out that community

01:17:12.500 --> 01:17:15.520
mixed use general works very well with that proposed

01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:17.000
potential land use.

01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:20.680
It's a future land use is expected to be a mix of uses but

01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:24.800
with a primarily commercial angle and those are the types

01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:27.000
of uses that CMG would permit.

01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:30.319
By contrast the current zoning neighborhood residential

01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:33.220
mixed use while allowing for a mix of uses is more of a

01:17:33.220 --> 01:17:36.560
residentially focused zoning and so it's less appropriate

01:17:36.560 --> 01:17:39.000
when compared to the future land use map.

01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:42.319
Looking at the adjacent uses right now primarily it's

01:17:42.319 --> 01:17:45.960
either commercial or undeveloped around the property in

01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:49.399
question and so commercially focused CMG zoning would be

01:17:49.399 --> 01:17:53.000
compatible with those current uses around the area.

01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:57.069
Also as you can see in the lower side we have two primary

01:17:57.069 --> 01:18:01.689
arterials there at the intersection and CMG is particularly

01:18:01.689 --> 01:18:05.840
well designed allows uses that are commercial and that fit

01:18:05.840 --> 01:18:09.989
well in places with good access and two primary arterials

01:18:09.989 --> 01:18:11.000
good access.

01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:15.000
It's a good fit for the uses allowed under CMG.

01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:18.670
Looking at the second criteria public facilities and

01:18:18.670 --> 01:18:23.000
provision of public services as we've discussed it has good

01:18:23.000 --> 01:18:26.670
access site also has both water and sewer available and it

01:18:26.670 --> 01:18:29.000
has been previously developed.

01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:33.020
We did send out notifications to the public in the area 200

01:18:33.020 --> 01:18:37.000
and 500 feet we received no responses for or against.

01:18:37.000 --> 01:18:40.829
Taking all this together staff recommends approval the

01:18:40.829 --> 01:18:44.609
request meets with our criteria in the DDC and it fits the

01:18:44.609 --> 01:18:48.000
adjacent uses and the nature of the location.

01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:50.819
With that I'm happy to answer any questions and I know as I

01:18:50.819 --> 01:18:53.000
said the applicant is available as well.

01:18:53.000 --> 01:18:56.000
Perfect great presentation. Thank you very much.

01:18:56.000 --> 01:18:59.000
There's no no questions this time.

01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:00.000
Thank you.

01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:03.220
This is a public hearing and open for individuals to speak

01:19:03.220 --> 01:19:06.329
the applicant if you'd like to speak or anyone else like to

01:19:06.329 --> 01:19:07.000
speak.

01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:11.000
You're more than welcome to do so at this time.

01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:12.000
Commissioner Smith.

01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:13.000
Thank you, sir.

01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:16.000
Can I ask the applicant a question.

01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:20.850
And sir when when you come up you say your full name and

01:19:20.850 --> 01:19:23.000
address for the record.

01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:27.550
John the last name's Featherstone I'm with the dimension

01:19:27.550 --> 01:19:33.000
group 10755 Sandhill Road Dallas Texas 75238.

01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:35.000
Thank you. Great.

01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:39.659
So the question I had was what is the intent for the rezone

01:19:39.659 --> 01:19:40.000
.

01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:43.000
I know that there's the old gas station there.

01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:47.079
The reason is an intent to develop actual property rezone

01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:48.000
and sell.

01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:49.000
What's the intent for the reason.

01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:55.640
Actually the intent is it will be the existing the old

01:19:55.640 --> 01:20:00.460
vacant convenience store gas station all the car wash that

01:20:00.460 --> 01:20:03.000
building that's sitting there.

01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:05.000
All of that will be demoed.

01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:11.300
We already have plans turned in to the city and they're

01:20:11.300 --> 01:20:17.760
under review for a new convenience store with gasoline

01:20:17.760 --> 01:20:19.000
sales.

01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:24.000
They'll be developed per your current standards.

01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:29.279
They can look far better than what's sitting there right

01:20:29.279 --> 01:20:30.000
now.

01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:33.000
Anything look for about what's sitting there.

01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:35.000
So pretty sure.

01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:36.000
Thank you very much.

01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:37.000
Thank you.

01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:40.579
We would I would just respectfully request that you follow

01:20:40.579 --> 01:20:44.170
the staff's recommendation and recommend approval to the

01:20:44.170 --> 01:20:45.000
council.

01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:46.000
Thank you very much.

01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:47.000
Thank you.

01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:51.000
Appreciate it.

01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:53.000
Commissioner Beck.

01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:54.000
Thank you.

01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:59.000
Chair I'm glad to see this development come in.

01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:01.399
I remember when the old Shell station was there and when it

01:21:01.399 --> 01:21:04.000
disappeared I couldn't believe it's set there for so long.

01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:06.000
So I'm glad to see this come back in play.

01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:08.000
It's in an area in close proximity to me.

01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:11.449
It keeps me from having to go under the loop to the gas

01:21:11.449 --> 01:21:13.000
stations up there.

01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:14.000
So it's very convenient.

01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:16.000
I'm glad to see this.

01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:18.000
I hope this change goes through.

01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:22.140
I think CMG is a good change for this area especially along

01:21:22.140 --> 01:21:25.000
loop 288 as far up as Audreau.

01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:28.000
So I think this is a good move all the way around.

01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:32.000
Thank you.

01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:36.000
Seeing no other speakers or questions I'll close the public

01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:39.000
hearing and move to discussion or motion.

01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:40.000
Commissioner Beck.

01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:44.000
I move to approve the 180012.

01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:45.000
Commissioner Smith.

01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:46.000
Second the motion.

01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:47.000
We have a first and a second.

01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:50.000
Any discussion?

01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:52.000
Seeing none we will vote by show of hands.

01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:58.000
Those in favor? Against? Abstaining?

01:21:58.000 --> 01:21:59.000
The item passes 6-0.

01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:03.000
Congratulations.

01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:08.100
That moves us to item 6A our planning and zoning project

01:22:08.100 --> 01:22:09.000
matrix.

01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:10.000
Commissioner Smith.

01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:11.000
Thank you, Chair.

01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:14.239
Just wanted to bring it onto the public record for the item

01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:17.000
that we discussed during work session reports.

01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:19.979
Just if we can make sure that gets on the planning matrix

01:22:19.979 --> 01:22:22.729
to see that RR and what possible uses we could do in those

01:22:22.729 --> 01:22:24.000
areas that were discussed.

01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:25.000
Just wanted to make sure that got on.

01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:27.000
I didn't know if that got on the matrix of work session.

01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:29.000
I want to make sure it got on there now.

01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:30.000
Yes.

01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:33.220
Just to kind of go back over the matrix because I know we

01:22:33.220 --> 01:22:36.220
had set some dates sort of clear because I know some things

01:22:36.220 --> 01:22:38.000
were pending since 2016.

01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:41.840
At the next meeting what we'll try to do is also bring that

01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:45.000
back for the next meeting for discussion.

01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:48.000
We will have another new P&Z member.

01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:51.300
I think at that time it might be good to have legal sort of

01:22:51.300 --> 01:22:54.640
just talk a little bit about what we can and we can't talk

01:22:54.640 --> 01:22:57.000
about as part of the work session.

01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:01.329
So that item will be included as well as I presented to the

01:23:01.329 --> 01:23:06.000
Committee on the Environment earlier in the week on Monday

01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:09.000
with the latest draft of the tree code.

01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:12.840
What I will do on Friday is or prior to Friday I will send

01:23:12.840 --> 01:23:17.649
everybody a copy of the memo, the AIS that I had prepared

01:23:17.649 --> 01:23:22.029
as well as the draft regulations and PowerPoint

01:23:22.029 --> 01:23:23.000
presentation.

01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:28.409
And then I'll go over that whole packet really at the next

01:23:28.409 --> 01:23:30.000
P&Z meeting.

01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:34.810
We're going back to COE in September and then I have coming

01:23:34.810 --> 01:23:38.000
back again to P&Z for work session.

01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:43.000
So we're coming back full force with the tree code.

01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:46.000
So I just wanted to make sure everyone was in the loop.

01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:48.000
So it is coming. I said it was coming back.

01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:50.000
So it's coming back.

01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:53.409
So we're going to really devote probably the next two

01:23:53.409 --> 01:23:55.000
meetings and then some.

01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:58.390
We're going to be getting a memo from Solid Waste on the

01:23:58.390 --> 01:24:00.000
recycling question.

01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:03.000
I'll have that distributed as well.

01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:05.779
If we need further clarification, we'll have them come back

01:24:05.779 --> 01:24:06.000
in.

01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:10.050
But I wanted to I figured most of the time would be spent

01:24:10.050 --> 01:24:12.000
on the on the tree code.

01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:15.000
And so I wanted to reserve enough time for that.

01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:18.979
Otherwise, we have the other dates and we'll continue to

01:24:18.979 --> 01:24:23.000
move through these items and any new ones that come up.

01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:25.000
Great. Thank you.

01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:27.000
You good.

01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:28.000
Kishore Ellis.

01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:29.000
Thank you, Chair.

01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:31.939
You know, I just wanted to take a moment in regular meeting

01:24:31.939 --> 01:24:35.220
to thank our outgoing chair, Jim Strange, for his years of

01:24:35.220 --> 01:24:37.000
service and leadership to the city.

01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:38.649
He's done a great job on planning and zoning these last six

01:24:38.649 --> 01:24:39.000
years.

01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:41.000
So thanks to him.

01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:44.000
Yeah, for sure. I can echo that.

01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:45.000
Kishore Beck.

01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:48.319
I would like to second Commissioner Ellis's comments and I

01:24:48.319 --> 01:24:53.000
'd like to officially welcome new Commissioner Matt Pernita

01:24:53.000 --> 01:24:55.000
to our crew to welcome board.

01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:04.140
Any other items for the matrix discussion with that, we

01:25:04.140 --> 01:25:08.000
will close the PNC meeting for August 8th at seven oh five.