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Planning and Zoning Commission Work Session Meeting for

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Wednesday, May 23rd, 2018.

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This meeting has been duly posted and we do have a quorum

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present and will call us to order at 504.

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Our first order of business will be to receive

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clarification of agenda items.

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Looks like we don't have any minutes so we'll go straight

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to the consent agenda.

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Are there any questions on the consent agenda?

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None. All right well that's easy. We'll move us to items

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for individual consideration.

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I will call on Haley for presentation of item 3a.

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All right this is a final plat for the lot one of the

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retreat at Denton edition.

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We saw the preliminary plat just a couple of weeks ago for

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this.

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The intended use of lot one as you may remember from a

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recent rezoning and sup is a multifamily.

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It would be oriented for students. As a part of this plat

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the right of way for precision drive is

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being dedicated to extend precision from its current termin

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us by Peterbilt further to the north all the

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way up to Oak Street. This is an item for individual

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consideration because there is a condition on the

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plat approval. That condition being that civil engineering

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plans for all public infrastructure

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necessary to serve the proposed development must be

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approved before the plat is filed. If any utility

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easement locations need to be modified as a result of that

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final civil engineering construction plan

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review that staff would be able to approve those rather

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than bringing the plans back

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before the planning and zoning commission. I'd be happy to

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answer any questions.

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Commissioner Rozelle. Thank you. This is outside probably

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the bounds of this discussion but is there

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any plans to have a pedestrian walkway from that connecting

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to the other side of I-35. There's not

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any sidewalks obviously precision's not there but there's

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not any sidewalks under the underpass from

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that property. There's sidewalks on the other side where

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the old bus station used to be. Is there any

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plans to create a sidewalk there? None that I'm aware for

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connecting under that overpass. I believe

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they have been in touch with DCTA. The developer has to try

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to coordinate having some sort of bus

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connectivity out to here and I believe UNT also may have

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plans for buses. Commissioner Ellis.

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Thank you chair. Actually Haley this is probably for Victor

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. So when we go to make a motion here

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can we just say per staff's recommendation or do we need to

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repeat what is written here?

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You have proposals for it to be varied off of staff's

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recommendation right?

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No it would just be with that one condition about the civil

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plan. So we can just say with

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with that we don't have to restate at all. Okay thanks.

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Any other questions on this item?

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Okay we'll move us to our public hearings. Item A has been

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postponed. It's going to be

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there's a request for no continuance. It'll just be re-not

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iced at a date in the future.

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Same thing on item B. It will be re-noticed in the future.

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So that will move us to item C and Haley will make that

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presentation for us.

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All right this is a rezoning for fire station three.

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So the request is to hold this public hearing and consider

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a rezoning from downtown

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residential one district which is shown on the top map to

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downtown commercial general as you can see

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on the southern or the lower map here. The property is

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approximately 1.33 acres. It's located on the

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south side of Underwood along Avenue A and what is

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currently McCormick Street. It's currently

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developed with fire station three. So fire stations under

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our code are a community service use

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classification. The DR1 district doesn't permit this use

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currently. The fire station's been there

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for longer than that zoning has been in place and it's

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currently considered a special exception.

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The intent as you can see in the concept plan that we'll go

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over a little bit later

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is to enlarge the fire station and expand this development.

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So when they voluntarily demolish

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the existing station it would lose that special exception

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status. So the rezoning is needed

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to permit the future development of a new fire station as

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well as just to consolidate and clean

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up the zoning so that the entire fire station property

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would have one zoning district moving forward.

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So here's a little bit closer look at the property. You can

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see the current fire station there as well

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as the vacant property to the west. Their concept plan

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would be the existing fire station would be

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demolished. That current property that it's on would be

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developed with parking and a drive aisle.

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The fire station itself would be relocated to that property

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to the west. McCormick street is

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intended to be formally abandoned in this area. The

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utilities that are in place under there would

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remain in place within an easement and the only development

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on top of that would be this driveway.

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Let's see. So the future land use for this property is

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actually commercial designation. You can see it's

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kind of a hybrid zone as we transition from commercial into

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this university compatibility area.

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Commercial is applicable along most of our highways. It's

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intended for auto-oriented uses.

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Typically the properties designated as commercial are not

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suitable for residential or even mixed

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use development because of that proximity to our major road

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ways. We found DCG to be consistent with

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this future land use designation. It permits a wide variety

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of commercial and service uses

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such as this at a more intensive scale than we would

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typically see in our neighborhood areas.

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So it felt that that was appropriate along the freeway in

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this location.

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To look at the compatibility of the rezoning, DCG would be

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an extension of existing DCG that exists

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surrounding this property to the north and the west. The

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uses permitted within DCG would be

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generally consistent with what's in this area already.

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Aside from the existing fire station,

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we had a hotel that was recently demolished with the text

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outwidening. There's multifamily in this

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area as well as a couple of fuel stations along the freeway

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.

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As I had mentioned, there are some existing utilities in

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the McCormick Street right of way.

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Those would remain in place. There's also utilities to

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serve the property along Avenue A and Underwood.

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Notification was sent about the request. We received one in

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opposition. That's the property

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outlined here in red that was included in your backup. And

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before the meeting, I handed out

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an additional response in favor of the request that I

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received today.

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The staff is recommending approval. Based on our criteria

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for approval in the code,

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we found this to be consistent with the future land use

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designation under the Denton Plan 2030.

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And we also found it to be compatible with the existing

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uses and zoning in this area.

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I'd be happy to answer any questions.

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Commissioner Smith.

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Thank you, Chair. Give me one second as I look up. The

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current height and the current zoning is 40

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feet for the building height. I know whenever they did

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station two, the new station went upwards in

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elevation. Is there a plan for station three in the remodel

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, the rebuild? Is it to go larger that

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way, go upwards? It might go a little bit taller. I haven't

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seen elevations for it recently to know

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exactly what height they're proposing. But I believe it

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will be a little bit taller than

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the current station. Just because the 40 feet in the

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current zoning and then 100 feet in the

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proposed zoning, I don't think it affects neighborhoods.

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And it's obviously a good use.

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It's really hard to fight against fire services. The

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building itself would be on the lot that's

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already... Sure, of course. Just the increase in the height

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, anything that might affect the way of

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neighborhoods and everything else. We got some of the

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assistance to bring up. So I just wanted

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to know, see if there's anything planned in the cities. But

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okay, that's fine.

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Commissioner Ellis. Thank you, Chair. Haley, just curious,

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did the opposition give as to why? I

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didn't see that in the backup just that they were opposed.

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Did you speak to them at all? I don't know

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if there's any rationale provided on that. Okay, I'm just

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curious. Thanks. Commissioner Rozelle.

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Thank you, Chair. You said you haven't seen the elevations

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recently. Do you have access to the

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elevations? I believe they may have provided them at a pre-

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development meeting last year.

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With this rezoning, we just had those concept plans. But I

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suspect they'll be submitting for

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that site plan and replanting the property soon. Perfect.

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Thank you.

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Commissioner Bet. Thank you, Chair. I just want to thank

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the staff for providing these affidavits

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for the site. The pictures and everything. Boy, it saved me

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in a trip out there. So I do appreciate

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that. It's good to see. Thank you. Okay, any other

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questions on this item?

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Okay, that's going to move us to our public hearing item 4D

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. And I have a conflict of interest on this

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item. I'm a partner in the partnership that's developing

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this. And so I'm going to recuse myself

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both during the work session and in our public session. And

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I'll turn it over to Commissioner

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Rosell. Thank you, Chair. Haley, this one's yours as well.

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Now while that's loading, this is a replant that we saw

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last week. There were some concerns about

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the drainage note that was on the plant that has since been

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revised to clarify that the HOA will

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be responsible, own and maintain the drainage areas with

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the exception of this lot 38, if you noticed

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on the southern part of the property abutting Hercules,

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that lot 38 is intended to be sold to

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DME for their power station that exists there currently. So

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that lot would of course be

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maintained by them once it is owned by them. And as with

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the other plat, there is a condition on our

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recommendation for this one as well relating to the civil

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engineering plans. So I'll read that just

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for clarification. Civil engineering construction plans for

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all public infrastructure necessary to

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serve the proposed development must be approved before the

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plat is filed. If any utility easement

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locations need to be modified as a result of the final

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civil engineering construction plans,

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the development review committee approval should be

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required prior to filing.

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Be happy to answer any other questions you all may have on

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this.

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Commissioner Ellis. Thank you, Vice Chair. Just to say

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thank you for clarifying it.

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That's well done on the notes and you can clearly

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understand who is to maintain it. So thank you.

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Thank you, Haley. Clarification, can I just close out work

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session since that's the last item?

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At 5 16, we will close our work session and reconvene in

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council chambers at 6 30.

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Good evening and welcome to the city didn't planning and

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zoning commission meeting for

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May the 23rd, 2018. This meeting has been duly posted and

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we do have a quorum present.

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Now we'll call us to order at 6 33. Our first order of

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business will be to stand and give the

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pledge the US and Texas flag.

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Okay.

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The next item on our agenda will be our consent agenda and

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the chair would entertain a motion.

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Commissioner Smith. Okay.

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Commissioner Roselle. Second. Okay. Have a first and a

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second for approval. Any further discussion?

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Nope. Okay. We'll call for a vote on the board.

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Motion carries six to zero. That will move us to our items

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for individual consideration

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and I will call on Haley for presentation.

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Good evening. This is a final plot for lot one of the

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retreated denton edition. This

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plot is for property that's intended to be developed with a

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multifamily use as part of

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the plot. The right of way for the northern extension of

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precision drive is being dedicated

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and staff is recommending approval of this plot with the

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condition that civil engineering

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construction plans for all public infrastructure necessary

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to serve the proposed development be

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approved before the plot is filed. If any utility easement

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locations need to be moved as a result of

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final civil engineering construction plans, the development

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review committee approval shall be

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required on those easement locations prior to filing. I'd

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be happy to answer any specific

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questions you may have about this. Any questions for Haley?

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No? Okay. Thank you.

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This is an item for individual consideration. If there's

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anyone who would like to speak on this

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item, you're welcome to. Seeing none. I don't know if the

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applicants here would like to speak

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on this item or not. No? Okay. Well, then we will open for

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discussion or motion.

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Commissioner Ellis. Thank you, chair. I will move to

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approve with staff's recommendation.

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Okay. Commissioner Sanchez. Okay. We have a first and a

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second for approval. Any further?

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Commissioner Beck. Sorry. Thank you, chair. I just wanted

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to share with my fellow commissioners. I'm

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going to vote no on this. Technically, it meets all the

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criteria, but as you know, I oppose the

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zone change for this. I thought it was a bad idea then. I

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still think it's a bad idea. So, as a

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protest, I'm going to be voting no on this. Okay. Any other

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discussion? Okay. We have a

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motion on the floor. First and a second. We'll call for a

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vote on the board for approval.

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Motion is going to carry five to one. That will move us to

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our public hearing section.

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Our item A, this item has been postponed. There will be no

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continuance. It will be

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renoticed at some point in the future. Our item B, same

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thing. It has been postponed.

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There is no continuance on it, and it will be renoticed at

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some point in the future.

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That will move us to our item C. At this time, I'm going to

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open the public hearing for Z18-0006B,

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and I will call on Haley for a presentation.

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Good evening. This is rezoning for fire station number

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three.

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The request before you is to hold a public hearing and

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consider making a recommendation

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to a council regarding a request for rezoning from downtown

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residential one, which is the district

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reflected on the top map, to downtown commercial general,

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which is reflected on the lower map.

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The subject property is approximately 1.3 acres, located on

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the south side of Underwood Street

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along Avenue A and McCormick. This site is currently

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developed with fire station three.

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In our zoning code, fire stations are considered a

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community service use. The downtown residential

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one district does not permit this use. The fire station

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predates our current zoning code and is

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currently considered a special exception. The intent is to

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demolish the existing fire station

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and redevelop this site along with the property directly to

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the west of it. Once that fire station

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is voluntarily demolished, it will lose that special

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exception status. For them to redevelop

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and include anything related to the fire station on this

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property, the rezoning is necessary.

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Rezoning to DCG will also consolidate the zoning across the

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entire property where the fire station

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will be located in the future, which would just facilitate

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their development, having one set of

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standards to follow. Just a closer look at what's on the

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site currently, we have fire station one,

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McCormick Street, and then to the west is a vacant property

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that was formerly a hotel.

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This is the concept plan for the fire station. As you can

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see, the right side of the screen is

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where the existing fire station is. That will be a parking

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lot and a drive aisle. McCormick Street

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will be formally abandoned. The utilities will remain in

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place with an easement to allow access

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to those. Then the new fire station will be reconstructed

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on that lot to the west that I

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discussed earlier. In looking at our criteria for approval

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for this, the main criteria being

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that it conforms to the future land use map within the Dent

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on Plan 2030. The future land

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use designation for the property is commercial. This is a

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designation intended for those commercial

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auto-oriented uses that are typical along highways like we

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have in this location.

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DCG we found to be consistent with this designation because

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it permits a very wide

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variety of commercial and service uses at a more intense

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scale, such as taller height,

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more lot coverage that is typical along freeways. In

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looking at the compatibility of this request

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with the surrounding area, DCG would be a continuation and

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an extension of the DCG that

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exists in the area currently. It's shown in the darker

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green on the map, so we have DCG to the

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north and west of this property. The uses permitted within

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DCG are generally consistent with the

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mixture that we have in this area currently. Not just the

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fire station, there's also multi-family

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in this area as well as fuel stations along the freeway.

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Looking at the infrastructure that's in

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place, you can see utilities available surrounding the

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property, so no concerns there were identified.

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As I mentioned McCormick Street, it is actually a

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resolution has been passed by council to close

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that street when necessary and it will be abandoned as this

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development proceeds if the rezoning is

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approved. A notification was sent about the request. We

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received one opposition and one

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favorable response. Those are highlighted on the map. Staff

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is recommending approval of the request.

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We found this to meet our criteria for approval being that

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it's consistent with the future land

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use map and generally compatible with the zoning and uses

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in the surrounding area. I'd be happy to

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answer any questions. Do you have a question? Commissioner

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Beck. Thank you, Chair. Hey, just

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curious, is the city going to put out on their means of ing

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ress and egress on Underwood and Avenue

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any flashing lights warning when they have a... Not aware

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of that at this point. Wasn't any plans to do that?

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Right now we just have that concept plan. I believe they're

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finalizing the site plan, so they would

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have those things planned in a little further detail a

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little more down the road. Just curious. Thank you.

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Hey, there's a follow-up to Commissioner Becks. Will that I

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assume at some point this will be

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replatted into one lot probably? That is the intent. And so

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when it comes back for probably replat

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some of those questions? Yeah, we may know a little bit

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more detail about the site plan at that point.

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Great. Commissioner Sanchez. The exits for the fire engines

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will be off onto Underwood, is that

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correct? And onto Avenue A? Is that where they'll be... If

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they have to go out in an emergency,

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they'll come out... Which will be the main road they'll be

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using? Because this morning when I drove

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up by Underwood, they're building the apartment complex

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right there, and there was a whole bunch

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of cars parked on the side of the road. I was just curious,

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is there going to be any kind of

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designation where people can't park on Underwood is being

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the fact that that would

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may block some of those fire engines going in and out? I'm

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not aware at this point of any intent to

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establish no parking zones on Underwood. I believe the flow

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of traffic would be coming in off of

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Underwood, because they do have their public parking in the

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dumpster located on this side of the site,

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and then the trucks would primarily exit onto Avenue A.

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Okay. Is my understanding of how the

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flow would work as it's proposed here? Any other questions

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for Haley?

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Thank you, Haley. This is a public hearing. Anyone who

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would like to speak on this item,

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please come forward at this time.

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Anyone want to speak on this item? Seeing none, I'll close

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the public hearing.

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Commissioner Smith. I have a question for the applicant, if

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he's present.

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Hello all. I'm Brad Lehman with MJ Thomas Engineering, 3973

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West Vickery Boulevard,

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Fort Worth, 76107, or the Civil. Great, thank you. Site

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plan now, or the conceptual that you

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guys do have, height of the building, the new proposed

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zoning would increase up to 100 feet,

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as where it's currently zoned, it's 40 feet maximum. Do you

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guys have a rough estimate on

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height of the building when you guys re- The height of the

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building will be limited at 30 foot.

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Perfect, thank you. Any other questions for the applicant?

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Well, is it the mic?

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Okay, thank you, sir. We've closed the public hearing. So,

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Commissioner Beck.

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I move we approve Z180006B. Okay, Commissioner Rozelle.

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Second. Okay, we have a first and a second for approval.

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Any further discussion?

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Seeing none, I'll call for a vote on the board.

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Motion carries six to zero. I will move us to our item D on

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our agenda. I have a conflict of

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interest on this item. I am a partner in this partnership

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that owns this piece of property,

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and so at this time I'm going to recuse myself and I will

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turn the meeting over to the vice

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chair, Commissioner Rozelle. Thank you, chair. I will open

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the public hearing for FR17-0024A

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and ask Haley for presentation. Good evening. This is a

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final replat for the Beale Way addition.

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The property is generally located on the west side of Loc

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ust. Beale Way will be extended along

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the north perimeter of the property. Hercules runs along

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the southern boundary of the property.

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This is a replat of what was formerly La Hacienda Heights

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subdivision. The eastern part of this

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property was once plotted for residential development that

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just never occurred. So,

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when those plans fell through, this subdivision was

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proposed so it would be a replat of that

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existing subdivision and also take in unplatted land on the

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western side of the property.

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Just a little bit of a description about the property. It's

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intended for single-family

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development. The lots are generally 50 by 120 feet on

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average, about 6,000 square feet in size.

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The applicant did hold a neighborhood meeting. They

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reported that they had 12 to 16 residents

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from the surrounding area in attendance at that meeting.

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Staff is recommending approval of this

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plant with a condition similar to the one we had earlier.

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Civil engineering construction plans for

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all public infrastructure necessary to serve the

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development must be approved before the plot is

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filed. If any easement locations need to be modified as a

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result of those finalized engineering plans,

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the development review committee would approve those prior

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to filing so the plot wouldn't have

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to return to this board for consideration for minor

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adjustments. I'd be happy to answer any

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other questions you have about this and I believe the

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applicant is also here. I do not see any

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questions. Thank you, Haley. This is a public hearing. If

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anyone wishes to speak, you may do

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so by filling out a card. I do have one card. It's the

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applicant, Lee Allison. Mr. Allison,

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your complete group has up to 20 minutes to present if

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needed. Hopefully I can do it in less than two.

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Good evening. I'm Lee Allison with Allison Engineering

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Group representing the applicant. David

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Marks, one of the owners, is here with me this evening. H

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aley mentioned a couple of things and

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I'd like to add some clarifications. This is a single-

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family residential development with homes

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generally in the 6 or lots generally in the 6,000 square

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feet and up. It might be a few a little

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larger. I'd say our average is easily 6,000 square feet.

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The price range of these homes will be in

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the 225,000 to 325,000. Typically entry-level homes are

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running $140 a square foot. I won't rule out

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the possibility of some homes in the 190,000 to 200,000

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range, but you're going to be looking

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at 1,400 square foot homes, something of that nature. I

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think some of the confusion came because

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the seller of this property was also a client of mine. At

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that time, we were working on some

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townhome concepts for him. Never really got in front of the

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city other than pre-design meetings,

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but I think the all-seeing, all-knowing Google discovered

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some of those documents and rumors got

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out around the neighbors that we were looking at townhomes

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or apartments over there, which we had

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with the previous client. That is absolutely not the case

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at this time. Another question came up in

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the neighborhood meeting had to do with the construction of

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Hercules Street, and we pointed

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out that Evers Way had been sitting there for years, and

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this client picked it up. They're moving

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forward. Hercules, well, actually the city had started

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planning and preparing for the construction

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of Hercules. The developments came along, so the developers

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ended up taking over the lead on

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Hercules. Since this is a perimeter street for both Evers

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Way and Beale Way, this is getting

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constructed, but instead of doing the second house half

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later with Beale's, we're constructing the

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entire length, entire width of Hercules Street with the E

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vers Way process, which is in advance of Beale

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Way, of which Beale Way is dedicating some of the right-of-

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way for. It's kind of a joint venture

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effort between the city and one developer on two different

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development projects. Hercules Road is

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getting constructed up front. We do not know of any plans

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at this time to have a light at the

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corner of Hercules and Locus. That is a tech stock

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controlled road, so that is subject to a warrant

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study and beyond our control. We have coordinated turn

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lanes, waterline adjustments, etc. Another

00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:07.869
big question was what's going to happen to that big area

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underneath the power lines? Many of the

00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:13.420
neighbors would like to see that be a city park. We had

00:29:13.420 --> 00:29:15.599
presented that to the city for that

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possibility, but the Parks Department had no desire for

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additional land at this point in time,

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even for soccer fields or practice or anything else. It

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will be a common area lot in a homeowner's

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association. I think you discovered last night, or last

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couple of weeks, we cleaned up some

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language regarding the maintenance. That's really about all

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I have, unless you have questions.

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I took a little over three minutes, not quite two. We have

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a question. Commissioner Beck.

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Thank you, Vice Chair. Thanks, Lee. I appreciate the

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information shared there, because I look

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forward to seeing this development go forward. I'm glad to

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see that area that's just been

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bearing so long finally filled up, and I think this is a

00:30:01.180 --> 00:30:03.200
good project for it. But I'm also delighted

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to finally see Hercules making its way all the way across

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there to make an easy access from

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point A to point B, where it was harder before. So I'm

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definitely planning on voting for this one.

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Very good. I don't see any other questions. Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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This is a public hearing. Does anyone else wish to speak?

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You may do so.

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Seeing none, I will close the public hearing and open for a

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motion or discussion.

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Commissioner Smith. A motion for approval with staff

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conditions.

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Commissioner Ellis. Thank you, Vice Chair. Second.

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We have a first and a second. Seeing no discussion items, I

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will call us for a vote on the board.

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The motion passes 5-0 with one recusal. Thank you. Then I

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'll move us on to

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agenda item five, and I'll call the chair back in.

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Welcome.

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That will conclude our public hearing section, and this

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will move us to our project matrix.

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Commissioner Ellis. Thank you, Chair.

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Just a couple things. First of all, thank you, thank you,

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thank you for the information

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with regarding signage and the way it appears in our backup

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. Love it. Thank you. Thank you very much.

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Issue I'd like to put in, it has to do with the sewer

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downtown at like the Hickory Street industrial

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area. I have gotten several complaints from business owners

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, have experienced it myself

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working down there, the horrible smell often throughout the

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evening down there. I guess I

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want to try to understand what is the city's maintenance

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with regard to that? Does it need to

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be looked at? Do these business owners have an avenue with

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which they can make a complaint?

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It's terrible for business down there. Something's not, to

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me, not functioning right. I don't know if

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I can get information or a work session to know how things

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are maintained there. I'd appreciate it.

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I'll get a response. Okay. Thank you. Commissioner Roselle.

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Thank you, Chair. I would just

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ask that at work session upcoming, can we get clarification

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on what's going to happen with

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the situation that happened two weeks ago with the agenda

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item where there's legal confusion on

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what happens when there's a 3-3 tie that will seemingly

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forever be a 3-3 tie? Just because it

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seemed like there was maybe a legal interpretation of the

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intent of the rule. I don't know if

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city ordinances can update that. I know Victor and I had

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sidebarred with that, but

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maybe just an update so the commissioners know what happens

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in those situations.

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So on that, we are working, I think, to propose, along with

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Clarion, maybe drafting something

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or sooner within the DDC or, like Richard was saying, maybe

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earlier to make that clarification

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specific to this board. This board adopts the council's

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rules, and so maybe it appeared that

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in this case, maybe there should have been a special rule

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about these recommendations going

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forward to council. So staff's working on it, and it'll be

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coming up. Thank you.

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Any other items for our project matrix? Go ahead.

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Just wanted to give a quick update because I know we've

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talked about the tree code

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before. We did present, staff presented at the committee on

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the environment this past Monday,

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just some overall policy questions. So we're going to be

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taking a draft back to the committee

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within 30 days, and then after that, it'll be coming back

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to the commission. What I will do,

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though, is as soon as that draft is given to the committee,

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I'll make sure that everyone

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gets a copy, too. I'm just going to email it directly to

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you. I won't wait to include it as

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part of the matrix, and once it's done, you'll have it in

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advance. Great. Perfect. Anybody else?

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Okay. With that, we will close at 6.55. Thank you, everyone

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.

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