1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,899 Planning and Zoning Commission Work Session Meeting for 2 00:00:03,899 --> 00:00:06,160 Wednesday, May 23rd, 2018. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,800 This meeting has been duly posted and we do have a quorum 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,119 present and will call us to order at 504. 5 00:00:15,599 --> 00:00:17,460 Our first order of business will be to receive 6 00:00:17,460 --> 00:00:20,480 clarification of agenda items. 7 00:00:23,519 --> 00:00:26,399 Looks like we don't have any minutes so we'll go straight 8 00:00:26,399 --> 00:00:28,000 to the consent agenda. 9 00:00:28,719 --> 00:00:30,960 Are there any questions on the consent agenda? 10 00:00:36,719 --> 00:00:42,380 None. All right well that's easy. We'll move us to items 11 00:00:42,380 --> 00:00:45,119 for individual consideration. 12 00:00:45,119 --> 00:00:49,359 I will call on Haley for presentation of item 3a. 13 00:00:58,719 --> 00:01:09,989 All right this is a final plat for the lot one of the 14 00:01:09,989 --> 00:01:11,200 retreat at Denton edition. 15 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,079 We saw the preliminary plat just a couple of weeks ago for 16 00:01:14,079 --> 00:01:14,400 this. 17 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,079 The intended use of lot one as you may remember from a 18 00:01:18,079 --> 00:01:21,040 recent rezoning and sup is a multifamily. 19 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,329 It would be oriented for students. As a part of this plat 20 00:01:24,329 --> 00:01:26,480 the right of way for precision drive is 21 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,939 being dedicated to extend precision from its current termin 22 00:01:29,939 --> 00:01:32,079 us by Peterbilt further to the north all the 23 00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:34,879 way up to Oak Street. This is an item for individual 24 00:01:34,879 --> 00:01:37,359 consideration because there is a condition on the 25 00:01:37,359 --> 00:01:40,840 plat approval. That condition being that civil engineering 26 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,959 plans for all public infrastructure 27 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,569 necessary to serve the proposed development must be 28 00:01:45,569 --> 00:01:48,079 approved before the plat is filed. If any utility 29 00:01:48,079 --> 00:01:51,140 easement locations need to be modified as a result of that 30 00:01:51,140 --> 00:01:53,359 final civil engineering construction plan 31 00:01:53,359 --> 00:01:55,989 review that staff would be able to approve those rather 32 00:01:55,989 --> 00:01:57,439 than bringing the plans back 33 00:01:58,079 --> 00:02:00,510 before the planning and zoning commission. I'd be happy to 34 00:02:00,510 --> 00:02:01,840 answer any questions. 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,359 Commissioner Rozelle. Thank you. This is outside probably 36 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:07,920 the bounds of this discussion but is there 37 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:13,090 any plans to have a pedestrian walkway from that connecting 38 00:02:13,090 --> 00:02:16,400 to the other side of I-35. There's not 39 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,789 any sidewalks obviously precision's not there but there's 40 00:02:20,789 --> 00:02:23,919 not any sidewalks under the underpass from 41 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,330 that property. There's sidewalks on the other side where 42 00:02:26,330 --> 00:02:28,080 the old bus station used to be. Is there any 43 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,620 plans to create a sidewalk there? None that I'm aware for 44 00:02:31,620 --> 00:02:34,080 connecting under that overpass. I believe 45 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,199 they have been in touch with DCTA. The developer has to try 46 00:02:37,199 --> 00:02:39,280 to coordinate having some sort of bus 47 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:44,650 connectivity out to here and I believe UNT also may have 48 00:02:44,650 --> 00:02:48,560 plans for buses. Commissioner Ellis. 49 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,389 Thank you chair. Actually Haley this is probably for Victor 50 00:02:51,389 --> 00:02:54,479 . So when we go to make a motion here 51 00:02:54,479 --> 00:02:57,360 can we just say per staff's recommendation or do we need to 52 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,919 repeat what is written here? 53 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:04,090 You have proposals for it to be varied off of staff's 54 00:03:04,090 --> 00:03:06,319 recommendation right? 55 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,759 No it would just be with that one condition about the civil 56 00:03:09,759 --> 00:03:10,879 plan. So we can just say with 57 00:03:11,439 --> 00:03:13,840 with that we don't have to restate at all. Okay thanks. 58 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,159 Any other questions on this item? 59 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:30,699 Okay we'll move us to our public hearings. Item A has been 60 00:03:30,699 --> 00:03:33,280 postponed. It's going to be 61 00:03:34,319 --> 00:03:37,919 there's a request for no continuance. It'll just be re-not 62 00:03:37,919 --> 00:03:39,360 iced at a date in the future. 63 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,159 Same thing on item B. It will be re-noticed in the future. 64 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,530 So that will move us to item C and Haley will make that 65 00:03:48,530 --> 00:03:50,319 presentation for us. 66 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,280 All right this is a rezoning for fire station three. 67 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,159 So the request is to hold this public hearing and consider 68 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:03,840 a rezoning from downtown 69 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,949 residential one district which is shown on the top map to 70 00:04:07,949 --> 00:04:09,919 downtown commercial general as you can see 71 00:04:09,919 --> 00:04:13,020 on the southern or the lower map here. The property is 72 00:04:13,020 --> 00:04:16,560 approximately 1.33 acres. It's located on the 73 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,319 south side of Underwood along Avenue A and what is 74 00:04:19,319 --> 00:04:21,839 currently McCormick Street. It's currently 75 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,500 developed with fire station three. So fire stations under 76 00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:29,040 our code are a community service use 77 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,579 classification. The DR1 district doesn't permit this use 78 00:04:32,579 --> 00:04:34,959 currently. The fire station's been there 79 00:04:35,519 --> 00:04:37,759 for longer than that zoning has been in place and it's 80 00:04:37,759 --> 00:04:39,759 currently considered a special exception. 81 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,050 The intent as you can see in the concept plan that we'll go 82 00:04:43,050 --> 00:04:44,399 over a little bit later 83 00:04:44,959 --> 00:04:48,860 is to enlarge the fire station and expand this development. 84 00:04:48,860 --> 00:04:50,720 So when they voluntarily demolish 85 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,079 the existing station it would lose that special exception 86 00:04:53,079 --> 00:04:54,639 status. So the rezoning is needed 87 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,230 to permit the future development of a new fire station as 88 00:04:58,230 --> 00:05:00,000 well as just to consolidate and clean 89 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,290 up the zoning so that the entire fire station property 90 00:05:02,290 --> 00:05:04,319 would have one zoning district moving forward. 91 00:05:06,639 --> 00:05:08,379 So here's a little bit closer look at the property. You can 92 00:05:08,379 --> 00:05:10,720 see the current fire station there as well 93 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,769 as the vacant property to the west. Their concept plan 94 00:05:14,769 --> 00:05:17,680 would be the existing fire station would be 95 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,670 demolished. That current property that it's on would be 96 00:05:20,670 --> 00:05:23,279 developed with parking and a drive aisle. 97 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,240 The fire station itself would be relocated to that property 98 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,360 to the west. McCormick street is 99 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,170 intended to be formally abandoned in this area. The 100 00:05:32,170 --> 00:05:34,319 utilities that are in place under there would 101 00:05:34,319 --> 00:05:37,129 remain in place within an easement and the only development 102 00:05:37,129 --> 00:05:38,879 on top of that would be this driveway. 103 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,769 Let's see. So the future land use for this property is 104 00:05:45,769 --> 00:05:47,680 actually commercial designation. You can see it's 105 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,379 kind of a hybrid zone as we transition from commercial into 106 00:05:50,379 --> 00:05:52,240 this university compatibility area. 107 00:05:53,519 --> 00:05:55,829 Commercial is applicable along most of our highways. It's 108 00:05:55,829 --> 00:05:58,079 intended for auto-oriented uses. 109 00:05:59,519 --> 00:06:01,500 Typically the properties designated as commercial are not 110 00:06:01,500 --> 00:06:03,839 suitable for residential or even mixed 111 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,089 use development because of that proximity to our major road 112 00:06:07,089 --> 00:06:09,279 ways. We found DCG to be consistent with 113 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,050 this future land use designation. It permits a wide variety 114 00:06:12,050 --> 00:06:13,519 of commercial and service uses 115 00:06:14,079 --> 00:06:15,920 such as this at a more intensive scale than we would 116 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,160 typically see in our neighborhood areas. 117 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:18,879 So it felt that that was appropriate along the freeway in 118 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:22,639 this location. 119 00:06:23,759 --> 00:06:27,300 To look at the compatibility of the rezoning, DCG would be 120 00:06:27,300 --> 00:06:30,639 an extension of existing DCG that exists 121 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:34,540 surrounding this property to the north and the west. The 122 00:06:34,540 --> 00:06:36,720 uses permitted within DCG would be 123 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,329 generally consistent with what's in this area already. 124 00:06:39,329 --> 00:06:41,199 Aside from the existing fire station, 125 00:06:41,199 --> 00:06:43,790 we had a hotel that was recently demolished with the text 126 00:06:43,790 --> 00:06:46,000 outwidening. There's multifamily in this 127 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,100 area as well as a couple of fuel stations along the freeway 128 00:06:49,100 --> 00:06:49,360 . 129 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,759 As I had mentioned, there are some existing utilities in 130 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:54,959 the McCormick Street right of way. 131 00:06:54,959 --> 00:06:57,629 Those would remain in place. There's also utilities to 132 00:06:57,629 --> 00:07:00,800 serve the property along Avenue A and Underwood. 133 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,399 Notification was sent about the request. We received one in 134 00:07:07,399 --> 00:07:08,800 opposition. That's the property 135 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,279 outlined here in red that was included in your backup. And 136 00:07:11,279 --> 00:07:12,959 before the meeting, I handed out 137 00:07:12,959 --> 00:07:15,060 an additional response in favor of the request that I 138 00:07:15,060 --> 00:07:15,920 received today. 139 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,180 The staff is recommending approval. Based on our criteria 140 00:07:23,180 --> 00:07:23,519 for approval in the code, 141 00:07:23,519 --> 00:07:25,589 we found this to be consistent with the future land use 142 00:07:25,589 --> 00:07:27,920 designation under the Denton Plan 2030. 143 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,040 And we also found it to be compatible with the existing 144 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,480 uses and zoning in this area. 145 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,240 I'd be happy to answer any questions. 146 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,120 Commissioner Smith. 147 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,040 Thank you, Chair. Give me one second as I look up. The 148 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,199 current height and the current zoning is 40 149 00:07:41,199 --> 00:07:43,079 feet for the building height. I know whenever they did 150 00:07:43,079 --> 00:07:46,079 station two, the new station went upwards in 151 00:07:46,079 --> 00:07:50,410 elevation. Is there a plan for station three in the remodel 152 00:07:50,410 --> 00:07:53,120 , the rebuild? Is it to go larger that 153 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,569 way, go upwards? It might go a little bit taller. I haven't 154 00:07:56,569 --> 00:07:58,879 seen elevations for it recently to know 155 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:01,120 exactly what height they're proposing. But I believe it 156 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,240 will be a little bit taller than 157 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,699 the current station. Just because the 40 feet in the 158 00:08:04,699 --> 00:08:07,920 current zoning and then 100 feet in the 159 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,819 proposed zoning, I don't think it affects neighborhoods. 160 00:08:11,819 --> 00:08:13,600 And it's obviously a good use. 161 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,850 It's really hard to fight against fire services. The 162 00:08:16,850 --> 00:08:18,319 building itself would be on the lot that's 163 00:08:18,319 --> 00:08:21,399 already... Sure, of course. Just the increase in the height 164 00:08:21,399 --> 00:08:23,199 , anything that might affect the way of 165 00:08:23,199 --> 00:08:25,470 neighborhoods and everything else. We got some of the 166 00:08:25,470 --> 00:08:27,680 assistance to bring up. So I just wanted 167 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,620 to know, see if there's anything planned in the cities. But 168 00:08:29,620 --> 00:08:30,480 okay, that's fine. 169 00:08:34,879 --> 00:08:38,000 Commissioner Ellis. Thank you, Chair. Haley, just curious, 170 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,440 did the opposition give as to why? I 171 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,179 didn't see that in the backup just that they were opposed. 172 00:08:43,179 --> 00:08:44,480 Did you speak to them at all? I don't know 173 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,230 if there's any rationale provided on that. Okay, I'm just 174 00:08:47,230 --> 00:08:51,440 curious. Thanks. Commissioner Rozelle. 175 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,899 Thank you, Chair. You said you haven't seen the elevations 176 00:08:53,899 --> 00:08:55,440 recently. Do you have access to the 177 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,990 elevations? I believe they may have provided them at a pre- 178 00:08:57,990 --> 00:08:59,360 development meeting last year. 179 00:09:00,159 --> 00:09:03,600 With this rezoning, we just had those concept plans. But I 180 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:04,720 suspect they'll be submitting for 181 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,370 that site plan and replanting the property soon. Perfect. 182 00:09:07,370 --> 00:09:08,000 Thank you. 183 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,490 Commissioner Bet. Thank you, Chair. I just want to thank 184 00:09:12,490 --> 00:09:15,360 the staff for providing these affidavits 185 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,639 for the site. The pictures and everything. Boy, it saved me 186 00:09:18,639 --> 00:09:22,080 in a trip out there. So I do appreciate 187 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:28,600 that. It's good to see. Thank you. Okay, any other 188 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:33,679 questions on this item? 189 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:41,179 Okay, that's going to move us to our public hearing item 4D 190 00:09:41,179 --> 00:09:44,480 . And I have a conflict of interest on this 191 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,509 item. I'm a partner in the partnership that's developing 192 00:09:47,509 --> 00:09:50,080 this. And so I'm going to recuse myself 193 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,960 both during the work session and in our public session. And 194 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,519 I'll turn it over to Commissioner 195 00:09:55,519 --> 00:10:08,399 Rosell. Thank you, Chair. Haley, this one's yours as well. 196 00:10:08,399 --> 00:10:11,279 Now while that's loading, this is a replant that we saw 197 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:13,440 last week. There were some concerns about 198 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,149 the drainage note that was on the plant that has since been 199 00:10:17,149 --> 00:10:19,679 revised to clarify that the HOA will 200 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,580 be responsible, own and maintain the drainage areas with 201 00:10:23,580 --> 00:10:26,559 the exception of this lot 38, if you noticed 202 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,620 on the southern part of the property abutting Hercules, 203 00:10:30,620 --> 00:10:35,600 that lot 38 is intended to be sold to 204 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,279 DME for their power station that exists there currently. So 205 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:41,279 that lot would of course be 206 00:10:41,279 --> 00:10:45,379 maintained by them once it is owned by them. And as with 207 00:10:45,379 --> 00:10:47,759 the other plat, there is a condition on our 208 00:10:47,759 --> 00:10:50,000 recommendation for this one as well relating to the civil 209 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,639 engineering plans. So I'll read that just 210 00:10:52,639 --> 00:10:55,629 for clarification. Civil engineering construction plans for 211 00:10:55,629 --> 00:10:57,519 all public infrastructure necessary to 212 00:10:57,519 --> 00:11:00,110 serve the proposed development must be approved before the 213 00:11:00,110 --> 00:11:01,840 plat is filed. If any utility easement 214 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,340 locations need to be modified as a result of the final 215 00:11:04,340 --> 00:11:06,320 civil engineering construction plans, 216 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,360 the development review committee approval should be 217 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,519 required prior to filing. 218 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,379 Be happy to answer any other questions you all may have on 219 00:11:12,379 --> 00:11:12,879 this. 220 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,159 Commissioner Ellis. Thank you, Vice Chair. Just to say 221 00:11:18,159 --> 00:11:19,200 thank you for clarifying it. 222 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,320 That's well done on the notes and you can clearly 223 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,159 understand who is to maintain it. So thank you. 224 00:11:29,759 --> 00:11:34,309 Thank you, Haley. Clarification, can I just close out work 225 00:11:34,309 --> 00:11:35,440 session since that's the last item? 226 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,509 At 5 16, we will close our work session and reconvene in 227 00:11:40,509 --> 00:11:44,080 council chambers at 6 30. 228 00:11:45,919 --> 00:11:54,870 Good evening and welcome to the city didn't planning and 229 00:11:54,870 --> 00:12:00,879 zoning commission meeting for 230 00:12:00,879 --> 00:12:05,110 May the 23rd, 2018. This meeting has been duly posted and 231 00:12:05,110 --> 00:12:06,960 we do have a quorum present. 232 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,600 Now we'll call us to order at 6 33. Our first order of 233 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,960 business will be to stand and give the 234 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,960 pledge the US and Texas flag. 235 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,960 Okay. 236 00:12:52,799 --> 00:12:56,080 The next item on our agenda will be our consent agenda and 237 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,200 the chair would entertain a motion. 238 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,480 Commissioner Smith. Okay. 239 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,360 Commissioner Roselle. Second. Okay. Have a first and a 240 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,240 second for approval. Any further discussion? 241 00:13:13,919 --> 00:13:16,960 Nope. Okay. We'll call for a vote on the board. 242 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:32,159 Motion carries six to zero. That will move us to our items 243 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:38,720 for individual consideration 244 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,960 and I will call on Haley for presentation. 245 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:57,850 Good evening. This is a final plot for lot one of the 246 00:13:57,850 --> 00:14:00,879 retreated denton edition. This 247 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,909 plot is for property that's intended to be developed with a 248 00:14:03,909 --> 00:14:05,679 multifamily use as part of 249 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,750 the plot. The right of way for the northern extension of 250 00:14:08,750 --> 00:14:10,559 precision drive is being dedicated 251 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,850 and staff is recommending approval of this plot with the 252 00:14:13,850 --> 00:14:15,600 condition that civil engineering 253 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,850 construction plans for all public infrastructure necessary 254 00:14:18,850 --> 00:14:20,799 to serve the proposed development be 255 00:14:20,799 --> 00:14:23,740 approved before the plot is filed. If any utility easement 256 00:14:23,740 --> 00:14:25,679 locations need to be moved as a result of 257 00:14:25,679 --> 00:14:28,409 final civil engineering construction plans, the development 258 00:14:28,409 --> 00:14:30,799 review committee approval shall be 259 00:14:30,799 --> 00:14:33,929 required on those easement locations prior to filing. I'd 260 00:14:33,929 --> 00:14:35,600 be happy to answer any specific 261 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:40,879 questions you may have about this. Any questions for Haley? 262 00:14:40,879 --> 00:14:44,320 No? Okay. Thank you. 263 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,250 This is an item for individual consideration. If there's 264 00:14:49,250 --> 00:14:50,960 anyone who would like to speak on this 265 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:59,120 item, you're welcome to. Seeing none. I don't know if the 266 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,480 applicants here would like to speak 267 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:05,419 on this item or not. No? Okay. Well, then we will open for 268 00:15:05,419 --> 00:15:07,360 discussion or motion. 269 00:15:11,039 --> 00:15:13,279 Commissioner Ellis. Thank you, chair. I will move to 270 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:14,960 approve with staff's recommendation. 271 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,440 Okay. Commissioner Sanchez. Okay. We have a first and a 272 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,360 second for approval. Any further? 273 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,200 Commissioner Beck. Sorry. Thank you, chair. I just wanted 274 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,840 to share with my fellow commissioners. I'm 275 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,850 going to vote no on this. Technically, it meets all the 276 00:15:28,850 --> 00:15:31,360 criteria, but as you know, I oppose the 277 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,009 zone change for this. I thought it was a bad idea then. I 278 00:15:34,009 --> 00:15:35,919 still think it's a bad idea. So, as a 279 00:15:35,919 --> 00:15:41,220 protest, I'm going to be voting no on this. Okay. Any other 280 00:15:41,220 --> 00:15:46,320 discussion? Okay. We have a 281 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:53,399 motion on the floor. First and a second. We'll call for a 282 00:15:53,399 --> 00:15:57,039 vote on the board for approval. 283 00:16:01,279 --> 00:16:05,179 Motion is going to carry five to one. That will move us to 284 00:16:05,179 --> 00:16:07,279 our public hearing section. 285 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,110 Our item A, this item has been postponed. There will be no 286 00:16:12,110 --> 00:16:14,080 continuance. It will be 287 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,659 renoticed at some point in the future. Our item B, same 288 00:16:18,659 --> 00:16:21,679 thing. It has been postponed. 289 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:25,759 There is no continuance on it, and it will be renoticed at 290 00:16:25,759 --> 00:16:26,799 some point in the future. 291 00:16:28,159 --> 00:16:32,519 That will move us to our item C. At this time, I'm going to 292 00:16:32,519 --> 00:16:36,879 open the public hearing for Z18-0006B, 293 00:16:36,879 --> 00:16:44,799 and I will call on Haley for a presentation. 294 00:16:50,559 --> 00:16:52,549 Good evening. This is rezoning for fire station number 295 00:16:52,549 --> 00:16:53,919 three. 296 00:16:55,519 --> 00:16:58,000 The request before you is to hold a public hearing and 297 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,679 consider making a recommendation 298 00:16:59,679 --> 00:17:02,970 to a council regarding a request for rezoning from downtown 299 00:17:02,970 --> 00:17:04,960 residential one, which is the district 300 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,019 reflected on the top map, to downtown commercial general, 301 00:17:08,019 --> 00:17:10,000 which is reflected on the lower map. 302 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,539 The subject property is approximately 1.3 acres, located on 303 00:17:14,539 --> 00:17:15,920 the south side of Underwood Street 304 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:20,599 along Avenue A and McCormick. This site is currently 305 00:17:20,599 --> 00:17:22,880 developed with fire station three. 306 00:17:23,519 --> 00:17:25,460 In our zoning code, fire stations are considered a 307 00:17:25,460 --> 00:17:28,319 community service use. The downtown residential 308 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:31,430 one district does not permit this use. The fire station 309 00:17:31,430 --> 00:17:33,759 predates our current zoning code and is 310 00:17:33,759 --> 00:17:38,109 currently considered a special exception. The intent is to 311 00:17:38,109 --> 00:17:40,400 demolish the existing fire station 312 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,650 and redevelop this site along with the property directly to 313 00:17:43,650 --> 00:17:45,440 the west of it. Once that fire station 314 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,529 is voluntarily demolished, it will lose that special 315 00:17:47,529 --> 00:17:50,319 exception status. For them to redevelop 316 00:17:50,319 --> 00:17:52,880 and include anything related to the fire station on this 317 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,880 property, the rezoning is necessary. 318 00:17:55,759 --> 00:17:59,019 Rezoning to DCG will also consolidate the zoning across the 319 00:17:59,019 --> 00:18:00,799 entire property where the fire station 320 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:03,410 will be located in the future, which would just facilitate 321 00:18:03,410 --> 00:18:04,960 their development, having one set of 322 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,599 standards to follow. Just a closer look at what's on the 323 00:18:08,599 --> 00:18:11,839 site currently, we have fire station one, 324 00:18:11,839 --> 00:18:14,900 McCormick Street, and then to the west is a vacant property 325 00:18:14,900 --> 00:18:16,480 that was formerly a hotel. 326 00:18:18,559 --> 00:18:21,599 This is the concept plan for the fire station. As you can 327 00:18:21,599 --> 00:18:23,680 see, the right side of the screen is 328 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,960 where the existing fire station is. That will be a parking 329 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,640 lot and a drive aisle. McCormick Street 330 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,539 will be formally abandoned. The utilities will remain in 331 00:18:31,539 --> 00:18:33,519 place with an easement to allow access 332 00:18:33,519 --> 00:18:37,160 to those. Then the new fire station will be reconstructed 333 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:38,880 on that lot to the west that I 334 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:45,509 discussed earlier. In looking at our criteria for approval 335 00:18:45,509 --> 00:18:47,279 for this, the main criteria being 336 00:18:47,279 --> 00:18:49,549 that it conforms to the future land use map within the Dent 337 00:18:49,549 --> 00:18:52,079 on Plan 2030. The future land 338 00:18:52,079 --> 00:18:54,630 use designation for the property is commercial. This is a 339 00:18:54,630 --> 00:18:57,519 designation intended for those commercial 340 00:18:57,519 --> 00:19:00,250 auto-oriented uses that are typical along highways like we 341 00:19:00,250 --> 00:19:01,440 have in this location. 342 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,559 DCG we found to be consistent with this designation because 343 00:19:05,559 --> 00:19:06,960 it permits a very wide 344 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,319 variety of commercial and service uses at a more intense 345 00:19:10,319 --> 00:19:12,480 scale, such as taller height, 346 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,069 more lot coverage that is typical along freeways. In 347 00:19:15,069 --> 00:19:19,200 looking at the compatibility of this request 348 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,230 with the surrounding area, DCG would be a continuation and 349 00:19:22,230 --> 00:19:24,000 an extension of the DCG that 350 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,470 exists in the area currently. It's shown in the darker 351 00:19:26,470 --> 00:19:28,559 green on the map, so we have DCG to the 352 00:19:28,559 --> 00:19:32,220 north and west of this property. The uses permitted within 353 00:19:32,220 --> 00:19:34,319 DCG are generally consistent with the 354 00:19:34,319 --> 00:19:37,609 mixture that we have in this area currently. Not just the 355 00:19:37,609 --> 00:19:39,680 fire station, there's also multi-family 356 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,119 in this area as well as fuel stations along the freeway. 357 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,920 Looking at the infrastructure that's in 358 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,170 place, you can see utilities available surrounding the 359 00:19:51,170 --> 00:19:53,599 property, so no concerns there were identified. 360 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,480 As I mentioned McCormick Street, it is actually a 361 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,200 resolution has been passed by council to close 362 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,650 that street when necessary and it will be abandoned as this 363 00:20:02,650 --> 00:20:05,119 development proceeds if the rezoning is 364 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:09,279 approved. A notification was sent about the request. We 365 00:20:09,279 --> 00:20:11,599 received one opposition and one 366 00:20:11,599 --> 00:20:15,740 favorable response. Those are highlighted on the map. Staff 367 00:20:15,740 --> 00:20:18,640 is recommending approval of the request. 368 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,059 We found this to meet our criteria for approval being that 369 00:20:21,059 --> 00:20:22,720 it's consistent with the future land 370 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,079 use map and generally compatible with the zoning and uses 371 00:20:26,079 --> 00:20:28,400 in the surrounding area. I'd be happy to 372 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,990 answer any questions. Do you have a question? Commissioner 373 00:20:30,990 --> 00:20:32,720 Beck. Thank you, Chair. Hey, just 374 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,660 curious, is the city going to put out on their means of ing 375 00:20:36,660 --> 00:20:39,599 ress and egress on Underwood and Avenue 376 00:20:39,599 --> 00:20:43,690 any flashing lights warning when they have a... Not aware 377 00:20:43,690 --> 00:20:46,640 of that at this point. Wasn't any plans to do that? 378 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,680 Right now we just have that concept plan. I believe they're 379 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,160 finalizing the site plan, so they would 380 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,470 have those things planned in a little further detail a 381 00:20:52,470 --> 00:20:54,640 little more down the road. Just curious. Thank you. 382 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,400 Hey, there's a follow-up to Commissioner Becks. Will that I 383 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,839 assume at some point this will be 384 00:20:59,839 --> 00:21:02,880 replatted into one lot probably? That is the intent. And so 385 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,440 when it comes back for probably replat 386 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,490 some of those questions? Yeah, we may know a little bit 387 00:21:07,490 --> 00:21:09,599 more detail about the site plan at that point. 388 00:21:09,599 --> 00:21:15,609 Great. Commissioner Sanchez. The exits for the fire engines 389 00:21:15,609 --> 00:21:18,240 will be off onto Underwood, is that 390 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:23,509 correct? And onto Avenue A? Is that where they'll be... If 391 00:21:23,509 --> 00:21:27,200 they have to go out in an emergency, 392 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,140 they'll come out... Which will be the main road they'll be 393 00:21:30,140 --> 00:21:32,400 using? Because this morning when I drove 394 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,990 up by Underwood, they're building the apartment complex 395 00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:37,599 right there, and there was a whole bunch 396 00:21:37,599 --> 00:21:40,460 of cars parked on the side of the road. I was just curious, 397 00:21:40,460 --> 00:21:42,079 is there going to be any kind of 398 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:48,460 designation where people can't park on Underwood is being 399 00:21:48,460 --> 00:21:51,440 the fact that that would 400 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,069 may block some of those fire engines going in and out? I'm 401 00:21:54,069 --> 00:21:57,200 not aware at this point of any intent to 402 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,500 establish no parking zones on Underwood. I believe the flow 403 00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:02,559 of traffic would be coming in off of 404 00:22:02,559 --> 00:22:05,130 Underwood, because they do have their public parking in the 405 00:22:05,130 --> 00:22:06,880 dumpster located on this side of the site, 406 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,289 and then the trucks would primarily exit onto Avenue A. 407 00:22:09,289 --> 00:22:11,359 Okay. Is my understanding of how the 408 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:18,769 flow would work as it's proposed here? Any other questions 409 00:22:18,769 --> 00:22:20,480 for Haley? 410 00:22:24,079 --> 00:22:27,119 Thank you, Haley. This is a public hearing. Anyone who 411 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,319 would like to speak on this item, 412 00:22:28,319 --> 00:22:29,519 please come forward at this time. 413 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,869 Anyone want to speak on this item? Seeing none, I'll close 414 00:22:38,869 --> 00:22:39,599 the public hearing. 415 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,880 Commissioner Smith. I have a question for the applicant, if 416 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:43,359 he's present. 417 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:56,799 Hello all. I'm Brad Lehman with MJ Thomas Engineering, 3973 418 00:22:56,799 --> 00:22:58,160 West Vickery Boulevard, 419 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,890 Fort Worth, 76107, or the Civil. Great, thank you. Site 420 00:23:02,890 --> 00:23:05,839 plan now, or the conceptual that you 421 00:23:05,839 --> 00:23:09,089 guys do have, height of the building, the new proposed 422 00:23:09,089 --> 00:23:11,839 zoning would increase up to 100 feet, 423 00:23:11,839 --> 00:23:14,779 as where it's currently zoned, it's 40 feet maximum. Do you 424 00:23:14,779 --> 00:23:16,799 guys have a rough estimate on 425 00:23:16,799 --> 00:23:19,569 height of the building when you guys re- The height of the 426 00:23:19,569 --> 00:23:21,920 building will be limited at 30 foot. 427 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,859 Perfect, thank you. Any other questions for the applicant? 428 00:23:26,859 --> 00:23:27,680 Well, is it the mic? 429 00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:37,839 Okay, thank you, sir. We've closed the public hearing. So, 430 00:23:37,839 --> 00:23:39,039 Commissioner Beck. 431 00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:46,559 I move we approve Z180006B. Okay, Commissioner Rozelle. 432 00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:50,160 Second. Okay, we have a first and a second for approval. 433 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,279 Any further discussion? 434 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,000 Seeing none, I'll call for a vote on the board. 435 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:08,500 Motion carries six to zero. I will move us to our item D on 436 00:24:08,500 --> 00:24:15,920 our agenda. I have a conflict of 437 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,170 interest on this item. I am a partner in this partnership 438 00:24:19,170 --> 00:24:21,039 that owns this piece of property, 439 00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:23,930 and so at this time I'm going to recuse myself and I will 440 00:24:23,930 --> 00:24:25,759 turn the meeting over to the vice 441 00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:30,869 chair, Commissioner Rozelle. Thank you, chair. I will open 442 00:24:30,869 --> 00:24:34,880 the public hearing for FR17-0024A 443 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:47,440 and ask Haley for presentation. Good evening. This is a 444 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,680 final replat for the Beale Way addition. 445 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,740 The property is generally located on the west side of Loc 446 00:24:52,740 --> 00:24:55,119 ust. Beale Way will be extended along 447 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,430 the north perimeter of the property. Hercules runs along 448 00:24:57,430 --> 00:24:59,119 the southern boundary of the property. 449 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,700 This is a replat of what was formerly La Hacienda Heights 450 00:25:03,700 --> 00:25:06,160 subdivision. The eastern part of this 451 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,259 property was once plotted for residential development that 452 00:25:10,259 --> 00:25:12,720 just never occurred. So, 453 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,420 when those plans fell through, this subdivision was 454 00:25:15,420 --> 00:25:17,279 proposed so it would be a replat of that 455 00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:20,529 existing subdivision and also take in unplatted land on the 456 00:25:20,529 --> 00:25:22,240 western side of the property. 457 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,490 Just a little bit of a description about the property. It's 458 00:25:26,490 --> 00:25:27,759 intended for single-family 459 00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:31,660 development. The lots are generally 50 by 120 feet on 460 00:25:31,660 --> 00:25:34,480 average, about 6,000 square feet in size. 461 00:25:35,599 --> 00:25:37,160 The applicant did hold a neighborhood meeting. They 462 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,079 reported that they had 12 to 16 residents 463 00:25:40,079 --> 00:25:43,730 from the surrounding area in attendance at that meeting. 464 00:25:43,730 --> 00:25:45,920 Staff is recommending approval of this 465 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,660 plant with a condition similar to the one we had earlier. 466 00:25:48,660 --> 00:25:50,880 Civil engineering construction plans for 467 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,140 all public infrastructure necessary to serve the 468 00:25:53,140 --> 00:25:55,519 development must be approved before the plot is 469 00:25:55,519 --> 00:25:58,869 filed. If any easement locations need to be modified as a 470 00:25:58,869 --> 00:26:01,279 result of those finalized engineering plans, 471 00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:03,730 the development review committee would approve those prior 472 00:26:03,730 --> 00:26:04,880 to filing so the plot wouldn't have 473 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,680 to return to this board for consideration for minor 474 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,000 adjustments. I'd be happy to answer any 475 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,079 other questions you have about this and I believe the 476 00:26:12,079 --> 00:26:15,519 applicant is also here. I do not see any 477 00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:18,269 questions. Thank you, Haley. This is a public hearing. If 478 00:26:18,269 --> 00:26:19,759 anyone wishes to speak, you may do 479 00:26:19,759 --> 00:26:22,809 so by filling out a card. I do have one card. It's the 480 00:26:22,809 --> 00:26:26,720 applicant, Lee Allison. Mr. Allison, 481 00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:31,720 your complete group has up to 20 minutes to present if 482 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,319 needed. Hopefully I can do it in less than two. 483 00:26:34,319 --> 00:26:37,019 Good evening. I'm Lee Allison with Allison Engineering 484 00:26:37,019 --> 00:26:39,039 Group representing the applicant. David 485 00:26:39,039 --> 00:26:42,380 Marks, one of the owners, is here with me this evening. H 486 00:26:42,380 --> 00:26:44,319 aley mentioned a couple of things and 487 00:26:44,319 --> 00:26:47,930 I'd like to add some clarifications. This is a single- 488 00:26:47,930 --> 00:26:51,359 family residential development with homes 489 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,029 generally in the 6 or lots generally in the 6,000 square 490 00:26:55,029 --> 00:26:56,640 feet and up. It might be a few a little 491 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,539 larger. I'd say our average is easily 6,000 square feet. 492 00:27:00,539 --> 00:27:02,400 The price range of these homes will be in 493 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:08,569 the 225,000 to 325,000. Typically entry-level homes are 494 00:27:08,569 --> 00:27:12,559 running $140 a square foot. I won't rule out 495 00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:16,019 the possibility of some homes in the 190,000 to 200,000 496 00:27:16,019 --> 00:27:17,680 range, but you're going to be looking 497 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,210 at 1,400 square foot homes, something of that nature. I 498 00:27:21,210 --> 00:27:23,359 think some of the confusion came because 499 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,970 the seller of this property was also a client of mine. At 500 00:27:27,970 --> 00:27:30,319 that time, we were working on some 501 00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:33,750 townhome concepts for him. Never really got in front of the 502 00:27:33,750 --> 00:27:35,839 city other than pre-design meetings, 503 00:27:35,839 --> 00:27:39,250 but I think the all-seeing, all-knowing Google discovered 504 00:27:39,250 --> 00:27:41,599 some of those documents and rumors got 505 00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:44,079 out around the neighbors that we were looking at townhomes 506 00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:46,000 or apartments over there, which we had 507 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,900 with the previous client. That is absolutely not the case 508 00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:52,559 at this time. Another question came up in 509 00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:54,970 the neighborhood meeting had to do with the construction of 510 00:27:54,970 --> 00:27:57,279 Hercules Street, and we pointed 511 00:27:57,279 --> 00:28:00,710 out that Evers Way had been sitting there for years, and 512 00:28:00,710 --> 00:28:03,119 this client picked it up. They're moving 513 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,440 forward. Hercules, well, actually the city had started 514 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,799 planning and preparing for the construction 515 00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:12,450 of Hercules. The developments came along, so the developers 516 00:28:12,450 --> 00:28:14,640 ended up taking over the lead on 517 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,000 Hercules. Since this is a perimeter street for both Evers 518 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,200 Way and Beale Way, this is getting 519 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,920 constructed, but instead of doing the second house half 520 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,160 later with Beale's, we're constructing the 521 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,730 entire length, entire width of Hercules Street with the E 522 00:28:29,730 --> 00:28:32,640 vers Way process, which is in advance of Beale 523 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,869 Way, of which Beale Way is dedicating some of the right-of- 524 00:28:36,869 --> 00:28:39,599 way for. It's kind of a joint venture 525 00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:42,579 effort between the city and one developer on two different 526 00:28:42,579 --> 00:28:44,880 development projects. Hercules Road is 527 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,809 getting constructed up front. We do not know of any plans 528 00:28:48,809 --> 00:28:50,880 at this time to have a light at the 529 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,400 corner of Hercules and Locus. That is a tech stock 530 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,680 controlled road, so that is subject to a warrant 531 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,089 study and beyond our control. We have coordinated turn 532 00:29:01,089 --> 00:29:04,799 lanes, waterline adjustments, etc. Another 533 00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:07,869 big question was what's going to happen to that big area 534 00:29:07,869 --> 00:29:10,079 underneath the power lines? Many of the 535 00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:13,420 neighbors would like to see that be a city park. We had 536 00:29:13,420 --> 00:29:15,599 presented that to the city for that 537 00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:19,000 possibility, but the Parks Department had no desire for 538 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,279 additional land at this point in time, 539 00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:24,269 even for soccer fields or practice or anything else. It 540 00:29:24,269 --> 00:29:27,599 will be a common area lot in a homeowner's 541 00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:31,500 association. I think you discovered last night, or last 542 00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:33,359 couple of weeks, we cleaned up some 543 00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:37,400 language regarding the maintenance. That's really about all 544 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,440 I have, unless you have questions. 545 00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:44,289 I took a little over three minutes, not quite two. We have 546 00:29:44,289 --> 00:29:46,640 a question. Commissioner Beck. 547 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,769 Thank you, Vice Chair. Thanks, Lee. I appreciate the 548 00:29:49,769 --> 00:29:54,079 information shared there, because I look 549 00:29:54,079 --> 00:29:57,329 forward to seeing this development go forward. I'm glad to 550 00:29:57,329 --> 00:29:58,880 see that area that's just been 551 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,180 bearing so long finally filled up, and I think this is a 552 00:30:01,180 --> 00:30:03,200 good project for it. But I'm also delighted 553 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,700 to finally see Hercules making its way all the way across 554 00:30:06,700 --> 00:30:08,799 there to make an easy access from 555 00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:11,390 point A to point B, where it was harder before. So I'm 556 00:30:11,390 --> 00:30:13,759 definitely planning on voting for this one. 557 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,519 Very good. I don't see any other questions. Thank you. 558 00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:18,079 Thank you very much. 559 00:30:19,119 --> 00:30:21,359 This is a public hearing. Does anyone else wish to speak? 560 00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:22,160 You may do so. 561 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,950 Seeing none, I will close the public hearing and open for a 562 00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:29,119 motion or discussion. 563 00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:32,519 Commissioner Smith. A motion for approval with staff 564 00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:33,519 conditions. 565 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,799 Commissioner Ellis. Thank you, Vice Chair. Second. 566 00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:40,079 We have a first and a second. Seeing no discussion items, I 567 00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:42,160 will call us for a vote on the board. 568 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,980 The motion passes 5-0 with one recusal. Thank you. Then I 569 00:30:59,980 --> 00:31:04,319 'll move us on to 570 00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:14,160 agenda item five, and I'll call the chair back in. 571 00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:44,160 Welcome. 572 00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:48,470 That will conclude our public hearing section, and this 573 00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:50,640 will move us to our project matrix. 574 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,079 Commissioner Ellis. Thank you, Chair. 575 00:31:57,359 --> 00:31:59,599 Just a couple things. First of all, thank you, thank you, 576 00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:01,119 thank you for the information 577 00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:04,079 with regarding signage and the way it appears in our backup 578 00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:07,119 . Love it. Thank you. Thank you very much. 579 00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:12,339 Issue I'd like to put in, it has to do with the sewer 580 00:32:12,339 --> 00:32:16,720 downtown at like the Hickory Street industrial 581 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,619 area. I have gotten several complaints from business owners 582 00:32:20,619 --> 00:32:22,480 , have experienced it myself 583 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,170 working down there, the horrible smell often throughout the 584 00:32:27,170 --> 00:32:30,079 evening down there. I guess I 585 00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:33,329 want to try to understand what is the city's maintenance 586 00:32:33,329 --> 00:32:35,440 with regard to that? Does it need to 587 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,819 be looked at? Do these business owners have an avenue with 588 00:32:39,819 --> 00:32:42,480 which they can make a complaint? 589 00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:47,700 It's terrible for business down there. Something's not, to 590 00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:50,319 me, not functioning right. I don't know if 591 00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:53,289 I can get information or a work session to know how things 592 00:32:53,289 --> 00:32:56,400 are maintained there. I'd appreciate it. 593 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,720 I'll get a response. Okay. Thank you. Commissioner Roselle. 594 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,319 Thank you, Chair. I would just 595 00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:06,359 ask that at work session upcoming, can we get clarification 596 00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:08,799 on what's going to happen with 597 00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:11,759 the situation that happened two weeks ago with the agenda 598 00:33:11,759 --> 00:33:14,720 item where there's legal confusion on 599 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,980 what happens when there's a 3-3 tie that will seemingly 600 00:33:17,980 --> 00:33:20,400 forever be a 3-3 tie? Just because it 601 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,450 seemed like there was maybe a legal interpretation of the 602 00:33:23,450 --> 00:33:25,440 intent of the rule. I don't know if 603 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,490 city ordinances can update that. I know Victor and I had 604 00:33:27,490 --> 00:33:28,559 sidebarred with that, but 605 00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:31,789 maybe just an update so the commissioners know what happens 606 00:33:31,789 --> 00:33:33,119 in those situations. 607 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,730 So on that, we are working, I think, to propose, along with 608 00:33:40,730 --> 00:33:42,640 Clarion, maybe drafting something 609 00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:48,660 or sooner within the DDC or, like Richard was saying, maybe 610 00:33:48,660 --> 00:33:50,960 earlier to make that clarification 611 00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:54,960 specific to this board. This board adopts the council's 612 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,400 rules, and so maybe it appeared that 613 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,279 in this case, maybe there should have been a special rule 614 00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:04,240 about these recommendations going 615 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,809 forward to council. So staff's working on it, and it'll be 616 00:34:07,809 --> 00:34:09,440 coming up. Thank you. 617 00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:16,880 Any other items for our project matrix? Go ahead. 618 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,800 Just wanted to give a quick update because I know we've 619 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:19,840 talked about the tree code 620 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,050 before. We did present, staff presented at the committee on 621 00:34:24,050 --> 00:34:26,079 the environment this past Monday, 622 00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:29,980 just some overall policy questions. So we're going to be 623 00:34:29,980 --> 00:34:31,760 taking a draft back to the committee 624 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,530 within 30 days, and then after that, it'll be coming back 625 00:34:36,530 --> 00:34:38,880 to the commission. What I will do, 626 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,199 though, is as soon as that draft is given to the committee, 627 00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:43,920 I'll make sure that everyone 628 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,159 gets a copy, too. I'm just going to email it directly to 629 00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:47,519 you. I won't wait to include it as 630 00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:50,409 part of the matrix, and once it's done, you'll have it in 631 00:34:50,409 --> 00:34:56,400 advance. Great. Perfect. Anybody else? 632 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:04,809 Okay. With that, we will close at 6.55. Thank you, everyone 633 00:35:04,809 --> 00:35:04,960 . 634 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,860 [ Silence ]