1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,359 - 5th, 2018. 2 00:00:02,359 --> 00:00:04,400 This meeting has been duly posted 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,440 and we do have a quorum present. 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,900 We'll call our work session to order at five o'clock. 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,839 Our first order of business will be 6 00:00:12,839 --> 00:00:15,880 to receive clarification of agenda items. 7 00:00:17,679 --> 00:00:19,920 So, and moving through, 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,000 looks like we do not have any minutes. 9 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,000 So we will go to our consent agenda. 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,039 Does anyone have questions on the consent agenda? 11 00:00:29,199 --> 00:00:30,719 Which item? 12 00:00:30,719 --> 00:00:31,559 - Item C. 13 00:00:31,559 --> 00:00:33,280 - Item C, okay. 14 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,520 I can't hear item A, 15 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,399 so as long as we're not talking about item A, we're good. 16 00:00:38,259 --> 00:00:42,520 So, that will be Hayley. 17 00:00:45,719 --> 00:00:47,960 And if someone does have a question on A, 18 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,359 no problem, just let me know and I'll step out. 19 00:00:50,359 --> 00:00:53,500 (man speaking off mic) 20 00:00:53,500 --> 00:00:56,140 Well, let's hear C and then we'll come back. 21 00:00:57,439 --> 00:00:58,280 - All right. 22 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,439 - Did you want me to just go over the whole flat 23 00:00:59,439 --> 00:01:00,280 or did you have a specific question? 24 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,560 - I just have a specific question 25 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,119 and it's really just to clarify. 26 00:01:03,119 --> 00:01:04,920 What, it says on there, 27 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,280 the Walmart expansion detention pond, there's an agreement. 28 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,079 Just my question was between whom is the agreement? 29 00:01:12,079 --> 00:01:14,519 - My understanding is there's a historical agreement 30 00:01:14,519 --> 00:01:16,920 between Walmart and the owners of these properties 31 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,480 to the south that they could drain their water 32 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,079 into that pond, that it would be appropriately sized 33 00:01:22,079 --> 00:01:22,920 for that. 34 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,799 - Okay, so the agreement's between. 35 00:01:24,799 --> 00:01:26,079 That's what I wanted to clarify. 36 00:01:26,079 --> 00:01:27,640 Okay, thank you. 37 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,040 Commissioner Sanchez. 38 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,439 - Yeah, I have a question on the ESA. 39 00:01:32,439 --> 00:01:35,540 On that, that was established, I guess. 40 00:01:36,879 --> 00:01:39,280 When was that established, ESA? 41 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,560 Does anybody have an idea? 42 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,280 - I'm not sure the date of establishment. 43 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,400 I know it dates back to prior to the development 44 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,079 of lot one here to the south. 45 00:01:47,079 --> 00:01:48,000 - Okay. 46 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,500 - So at least several years. 47 00:01:50,500 --> 00:01:52,799 But you see here, the outline area 48 00:01:52,799 --> 00:01:54,920 is the entire tree conservation area. 49 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,810 That's where they'll be retaining their two and a half 50 00:01:57,810 --> 00:01:58,439 acres 51 00:01:58,439 --> 00:02:01,760 of the five acres of upland habitat that's on the site. 52 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,780 - And that's going to be a, it's looking at, 53 00:02:04,780 --> 00:02:05,920 when they talk about ESA, 54 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,939 they're talking about the cross timbers, right? 55 00:02:07,939 --> 00:02:09,120 - Yes, it's upland habitat. 56 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,719 So they're remnant to the cross timbers. 57 00:02:10,719 --> 00:02:15,240 - Okay, now the quality, how is that defined? 58 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,719 Because when I walked through there, 59 00:02:16,719 --> 00:02:19,759 I mean, when we talk about upland habitat, 60 00:02:19,759 --> 00:02:23,199 we're talking about your upland species, 61 00:02:23,199 --> 00:02:25,560 which I mean, your wooden species, 62 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,759 which is primarily your oaks 63 00:02:28,759 --> 00:02:30,919 that you have in the Black Jacket Post Oak. 64 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,800 But then when you look at the ground species, 65 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,379 you really don't have a grassland species there. 66 00:02:37,379 --> 00:02:41,879 So my question is, how is this quantified, I guess? 67 00:02:41,879 --> 00:02:46,560 Because I would say it's in very bad condition. 68 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,060 It's not a really good condition of example 69 00:02:50,060 --> 00:02:53,199 of a cross timbers ecosystem, 70 00:02:53,199 --> 00:02:56,819 because there's nothing there on the ground. 71 00:02:58,159 --> 00:02:59,819 - My understanding is it was confirmed 72 00:02:59,819 --> 00:03:01,520 to meet the minimum requirements 73 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,039 to be considered upland habitat. 74 00:03:04,039 --> 00:03:07,240 And then to speak to it, the area they're preserving 75 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,080 is on this portion of the site, 76 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,439 because that makes it contiguous 77 00:03:10,439 --> 00:03:12,599 with the other remnants of that area. 78 00:03:12,599 --> 00:03:14,680 So overall, there will be more than just 79 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:15,939 their two and a half acres left, 80 00:03:15,939 --> 00:03:16,840 which is the goal of that, 81 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,439 to maintain as much contiguous tree canopy 82 00:03:19,439 --> 00:03:22,319 and upland habitat area as we can. 83 00:03:22,319 --> 00:03:25,360 But as to how, if they rank the quality of that somehow, 84 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,879 I'm not aware of that. 85 00:03:26,879 --> 00:03:31,080 - Okay, I mean, I was just concerned 86 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,689 that pretty much there's no grassland species on that thing 87 00:03:34,689 --> 00:03:34,800 . 88 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,159 It's actually a pretty thicket underneath. 89 00:03:38,159 --> 00:03:40,520 So I was just curious how it was, 90 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,759 you know, if there was like a good, medium or poor, 91 00:03:44,759 --> 00:03:46,719 and then given some kind of rating 92 00:03:46,719 --> 00:03:49,960 so that people could be able to say, 93 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,360 okay, we're gonna give you this. 94 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:56,360 If they had a good example of a cross timbers, 95 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,580 they would get more points or whatever, 96 00:04:01,580 --> 00:04:04,639 as opposed to one that is a very poor example. 97 00:04:04,639 --> 00:04:06,960 So I was just curious about something like that. 98 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,080 - I'm not aware of what ranking system they use. 99 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,439 I know for their field assessment, 100 00:04:10,439 --> 00:04:13,599 they do have the standard forms that they use for those. 101 00:04:13,599 --> 00:04:16,079 But I'm not aware of any ranking system 102 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:17,480 for the quality of habitat. 103 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:20,819 - Any other question? 104 00:04:20,819 --> 00:04:22,120 Commissioner Beck. 105 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:22,959 - Thank you, Chair. 106 00:04:22,959 --> 00:04:24,800 Yeah, on that, I was just asking Scott. 107 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,899 Deborah Vieira, who is his assistant 108 00:04:26,899 --> 00:04:28,639 for environmental services, 109 00:04:28,639 --> 00:04:31,639 could probably, if anybody's rated it, she has. 110 00:04:31,639 --> 00:04:33,639 So if you know how to get ahold of her, 111 00:04:33,639 --> 00:04:35,480 she'd probably be a good one to ask on that. 112 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,519 And that'd probably, I'd like to know myself 113 00:04:38,519 --> 00:04:40,160 for what it's worth. 114 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,000 That's all I got. 115 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,079 - Okay, and the other, I mean, the other question I had 116 00:04:43,079 --> 00:04:44,639 is how do you manage it? 117 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:48,680 Being that it's, what I could see is a poor quality 118 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,160 and we're retaining it. 119 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,120 How are we gonna manage it for the future 120 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:57,120 so that we keep a good quality cross timbers there? 121 00:04:58,199 --> 00:05:01,199 Because over time, if you look at what's in there, 122 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:02,439 there's a lot of cedars 123 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:05,800 and some other underground species 124 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:06,959 that are more shade tolerant. 125 00:05:06,959 --> 00:05:09,079 They're gonna take over that area. 126 00:05:09,079 --> 00:05:10,480 So how do you manage it? 127 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,579 We just identify it. 128 00:05:14,579 --> 00:05:17,399 But there's nothing there that tells people, 129 00:05:17,399 --> 00:05:19,720 okay, you're gonna have to do this, this, this, and this 130 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:20,759 in order to maintain it. 131 00:05:20,759 --> 00:05:23,759 'Cause these habitats or these ecosystems 132 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:25,199 were maintained by fire. 133 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:30,279 So just to put it out to the side and say, okay, 134 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,240 this is what we're gonna do. 135 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,319 We're gonna protect it, but don't manage it. 136 00:05:34,319 --> 00:05:36,279 We're gonna lose it over time anyway. 137 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:38,120 - Call on Richard. 138 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,839 - If I could just make a suggestion. 139 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,560 Since Debra handles it, what I'd like to do is, 140 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,019 if you can, I'm gonna have to make you bring it up again, 141 00:05:45,019 --> 00:05:47,199 but mention it when we get to the matrix, 142 00:05:47,199 --> 00:05:50,959 I'll add it to the matrix and I'll forward that to Debra 143 00:05:50,959 --> 00:05:54,040 so that she can prepare a response specific to it. 144 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:54,879 - Okay, okay. 145 00:05:58,079 --> 00:06:00,600 - Well, I'll piggyback on Commissioner Sanchez. 146 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,000 Just for clarification, that's gonna be privately owned. 147 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,240 Is that correct? 148 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:05,079 - That's correct. 149 00:06:05,079 --> 00:06:07,860 And just to speak briefly to it, to my knowledge, 150 00:06:07,860 --> 00:06:10,240 the only requirement in the code is that they maintain it 151 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,519 in its current state. 152 00:06:12,519 --> 00:06:14,199 I don't know about the management of it, 153 00:06:14,199 --> 00:06:17,720 but they are required to not encroach on any of that 154 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,959 two and a half acres in any means whatsoever. 155 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,600 - Yeah, well, I knew that it's privately owned, 156 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,879 but it's almost, you're forcing somebody to maintain 157 00:06:27,879 --> 00:06:28,120 something 158 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,879 that over time you're gonna lose 159 00:06:29,879 --> 00:06:32,399 because it's not really the quality that, 160 00:06:32,399 --> 00:06:34,839 it's not really that high quality. 161 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,120 - Yeah. 162 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,040 - I agree, I've spoken out quite a bit about those. 163 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,509 So that's the concern I've had about it for quite some time 164 00:06:45,509 --> 00:06:45,800 . 165 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,720 So anyway, any other questions on item C? 166 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,439 Okay, thanks, Haley. 167 00:06:52,439 --> 00:06:54,000 You have another one on this? 168 00:06:56,199 --> 00:06:59,560 - Yeah, I'm actually gonna recommend that the chair 169 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,319 of scene probably step out for this one. 170 00:07:02,319 --> 00:07:07,040 And since because this, we no longer have a vice chair 171 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:12,040 or a chair, if you guys wanna nominate the chair pro tem 172 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,560 just for this one item. 173 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,240 - We're gonna do that now or in there? 174 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,879 - Well, in both. 175 00:07:17,879 --> 00:07:20,079 - Okay, so do I stay and vote on that? 176 00:07:20,079 --> 00:07:20,920 - No, no. 177 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,290 - So neither you or Richard could just fill in this one 178 00:07:25,290 --> 00:07:25,519 time? 179 00:07:25,519 --> 00:07:28,319 - Well, just to conduct, continue conducting the meeting. 180 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:30,680 We got to do it here and at the regular meeting as well. 181 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,319 - Okay, I nominate Margie. 182 00:07:33,439 --> 00:07:36,000 (laughing) 183 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,120 - I just said something. 184 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:37,959 - Anybody else? 185 00:07:37,959 --> 00:07:39,040 - I say that nomination. 186 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,639 (laughing) 187 00:07:41,639 --> 00:07:42,480 - All in favor? 188 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:43,319 - All in favor. 189 00:07:43,319 --> 00:07:44,319 - All right. 190 00:07:44,319 --> 00:07:48,319 - Okay, so you can continue the discussion on this item. 191 00:07:48,319 --> 00:07:49,519 (singing) 192 00:07:49,519 --> 00:07:51,600 (laughing) 193 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,879 - Okay, if I may, do I get recognized first? 194 00:07:57,759 --> 00:07:58,800 - Commissioner Beck. 195 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,680 - Thank you, temporary vice chair. 196 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,560 (laughing) 197 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,319 - On the lot, this is something we dealt with 198 00:08:07,319 --> 00:08:09,680 either at the last PNZ or the one before that. 199 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,540 Now, so what are we doing a little differently here? 200 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,079 Because where I'm going with this is 201 00:08:17,079 --> 00:08:19,319 the one we're dealing with is right up against 202 00:08:19,319 --> 00:08:20,680 the service road, right? 203 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:21,519 There we're dealing with? 204 00:08:21,519 --> 00:08:22,360 - That's correct. 205 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:27,360 - Okay, where this is a part of a couple lots, 206 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,560 there's another one, right? 207 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,560 Just do each of it and that's gonna be a part 208 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,759 of this development too, correct? 209 00:08:32,759 --> 00:08:35,759 - No, so what we have here, we've seen a preliminary 210 00:08:35,759 --> 00:08:38,799 plot and a site plan for this lot previously. 211 00:08:38,799 --> 00:08:42,000 So this is the medical office building at Rager. 212 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,120 So the development will actually be on the southern half 213 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,620 of this lot and I believe at a later date 214 00:08:46,620 --> 00:08:48,720 they'll probably do develop something similar 215 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:49,600 on the northern half. 216 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,960 - Okay, so this is the same thing we dealt with. 217 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,159 Didn't we have a means of egress off of scripture there, 218 00:08:55,159 --> 00:08:57,200 which I don't see on this? 219 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,440 - There will be a driveway there. 220 00:08:58,440 --> 00:08:59,399 - Okay, okay. 221 00:08:59,399 --> 00:09:02,039 I saw the other one on the other one, I thought, 222 00:09:02,039 --> 00:09:04,320 well, that was part of the bigger thing we're dealing with. 223 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,960 - Yeah, their driveway will tie into this easement 224 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,059 on the adjoining property and also to the south on 225 00:09:10,059 --> 00:09:10,720 scripture. 226 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:11,559 - Thank you. 227 00:09:13,879 --> 00:09:15,960 - Any other questions on A? 228 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:16,799 Commissioner? 229 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,240 - Whatever your name is. 230 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,000 This is Texas Oncology, right? 231 00:09:23,519 --> 00:09:26,159 - No, Texas Oncology is further to the east. 232 00:09:26,159 --> 00:09:29,419 Yes, yeah, this is a select medical here, I believe, 233 00:09:29,419 --> 00:09:32,720 and then on the opposite side of Heritage Trail is-- 234 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,519 - To the east of it, and this is on the west side 235 00:09:35,519 --> 00:09:37,679 of the rehab hospital. 236 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,000 - Yes, yes, Texas Oncology will be east 237 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:40,840 of the rehab facility. 238 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,519 - I was confused as to where we were talking. 239 00:09:42,519 --> 00:09:43,360 Thank you. 240 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:46,039 - Anybody else? 241 00:09:46,039 --> 00:09:47,320 Questions on A? 242 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,960 Okay, we'll call the chair back in. 243 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:59,279 - Yes, sir. 244 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,440 - Okay, any other questions on the consent agenda 245 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:09,700 on any items? 246 00:10:09,700 --> 00:10:12,440 Okay, now we'll move us to our items 247 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,100 for individual consideration. 248 00:10:15,159 --> 00:10:18,360 Call on Haley for presentation. 249 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,960 Yep, Commissioner Ellis. 250 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,019 - Thank you, Chair, can we back up just a second? 251 00:10:24,019 --> 00:10:27,120 If you're recusing on A, then are we doing 252 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,740 consent agenda items individually then? 253 00:10:30,799 --> 00:10:31,799 Or are we gonna-- 254 00:10:33,159 --> 00:10:35,440 - I assume that I was just gonna step out. 255 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,360 Y'all would do your temporary vote on the consent agenda, 256 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:40,919 and when the consent agenda's approved, 257 00:10:40,919 --> 00:10:42,120 then I would come back. 258 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,519 - Understood, thank you. 259 00:10:43,519 --> 00:10:44,360 - Thank you. 260 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,480 - All right, this is an alternative development plan 261 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:51,799 request 262 00:10:51,799 --> 00:10:53,340 for Iglesia Laramosa. 263 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,120 So the request is for approval of an ADP to deviate 264 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,879 from the non-residential and mixed use buildings 265 00:11:00,879 --> 00:11:03,559 in a pedestrian-oriented district standards 266 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,360 within sub-chapter 13 of our code. 267 00:11:06,879 --> 00:11:10,159 The site is approximately nine and a half acres 268 00:11:10,159 --> 00:11:12,500 located on the north side of Windsor, 269 00:11:12,500 --> 00:11:14,200 just to the west of Bonnie Bray. 270 00:11:16,879 --> 00:11:19,360 Looking at the zoning, you'll see this property 271 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,840 and the other vacant properties to the east of it 272 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,639 are zoned neighborhood residential two, 273 00:11:23,639 --> 00:11:25,600 so our low-density residential district. 274 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,879 The request is for the development of a church on this site 275 00:11:30,879 --> 00:11:33,799 to walk through quickly what they're proposing. 276 00:11:33,799 --> 00:11:36,679 They have approximately 12,000 square feet of buildings. 277 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,779 It would be three separate buildings, the main church, 278 00:11:39,779 --> 00:11:41,960 kind of a Bible school or classroom building, 279 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,179 and then a space for events. 280 00:11:44,179 --> 00:11:46,720 So the buildings you see here are outlined in orange. 281 00:11:47,639 --> 00:11:49,139 Other key features of the site, 282 00:11:49,139 --> 00:11:51,559 they are proposing a pedestrian plaza 283 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,080 in between the street and the main church building 284 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,759 that would contain a fountain, flag poles, 285 00:11:56,759 --> 00:12:00,399 and general walking and pedestrian space. 286 00:12:00,399 --> 00:12:05,399 Overall, their lot coverage would only total 13.5%. 287 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:07,039 You see out of the total site, 288 00:12:07,039 --> 00:12:09,500 they're really only impacting about the southern third of 289 00:12:09,500 --> 00:12:09,879 it. 290 00:12:10,919 --> 00:12:13,480 They're proposing 75 parking spaces 291 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,639 that would all be located here to the east of the buildings 292 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:16,919 . 293 00:12:16,919 --> 00:12:19,860 Other key features, there is a floodplain, 294 00:12:19,860 --> 00:12:23,279 and both floodplain ESA and stream buffer ESA 295 00:12:23,279 --> 00:12:25,019 here on the north end that will be unaffected 296 00:12:25,019 --> 00:12:26,059 by the development. 297 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,039 There is a gas well on an adjoining property, 298 00:12:29,039 --> 00:12:31,559 with this being a church, it is considered a protected use, 299 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,759 so it has to maintain that 250-foot reverse setback. 300 00:12:34,759 --> 00:12:36,320 So you can see the radius here, 301 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:37,860 only the parking and the detention pond 302 00:12:37,860 --> 00:12:39,559 would encroach into that setback. 303 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,720 So with that site plan in mind, 304 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,090 there's two standards that they're requesting to deviate 305 00:12:48,090 --> 00:12:48,700 from. 306 00:12:48,700 --> 00:12:51,720 When you have a pedestrian-oriented district, 307 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,960 there's a requirement for non-residential buildings 308 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,559 to have at least 60% of the street frontage 309 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,480 have buildings within 10 feet of the property line. 310 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,159 What they're proposing on that site plan, 311 00:13:02,159 --> 00:13:05,460 the closest building would be 42 feet back from the street. 312 00:13:05,460 --> 00:13:07,960 In lieu of pulling the buildings up to the street, 313 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,559 they are proposing that pedestrian area 314 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,120 with the fountain and the flag poles that I mentioned. 315 00:13:13,159 --> 00:13:16,659 The other standard they're requesting to deviate from 316 00:13:16,659 --> 00:13:21,659 is a requirement that the minimum floor area ratio be 4/10. 317 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,039 Just to run the math with a lot of approximately 318 00:13:25,039 --> 00:13:26,600 nine and a half acres, that would require 319 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,519 164,000 square feet of building on this lot 320 00:13:29,519 --> 00:13:30,779 to meet that requirement. 321 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,080 What they're proposing with the three small buildings 322 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,000 at 12,000 square feet is an FAR of approximately 3/100, 323 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,200 or .03. 324 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,080 Just real quickly, 'cause floor area ratio 325 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,159 isn't something we talk about very often. 326 00:13:47,159 --> 00:13:50,179 It's simply the ratio that you get when you divide 327 00:13:50,179 --> 00:13:53,639 the floor area of structures by the floor area of the lot. 328 00:13:53,639 --> 00:13:55,840 So for example here, if we had a 10 acre lot 329 00:13:57,039 --> 00:14:00,639 to meet that requirement of .4 for the FAR, 330 00:14:00,639 --> 00:14:04,080 like I said, you need 160 to 170,000 square feet of 331 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,179 building. 332 00:14:05,179 --> 00:14:07,039 So it's just that simple division 333 00:14:07,039 --> 00:14:08,480 is how we get that number. 334 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,000 So to look at some of the more specifics on the site, 335 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,639 with this smaller footprint of building 336 00:14:14,639 --> 00:14:16,559 that they're requesting, it's allowing them to maintain 337 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,240 a lot of the environmental features of this site. 338 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,720 So all of the area that I outlined in dark green up here 339 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,879 is area that would be completely undisturbed 340 00:14:24,879 --> 00:14:25,759 by this development. 341 00:14:25,759 --> 00:14:29,139 So they're maintaining a large number of trees 342 00:14:29,139 --> 00:14:30,279 that are on the back of the site 343 00:14:30,279 --> 00:14:32,840 that are within the floodplain and the ESA area. 344 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,419 So, and the ESA totals about 2.7 acres of the site. 345 00:14:39,679 --> 00:14:41,759 They are also installing compatibility buffers 346 00:14:41,759 --> 00:14:42,960 as required by the code. 347 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,320 So they have a type B buffer here between the church 348 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,720 and the single family homes adjoining to the west. 349 00:14:50,279 --> 00:14:54,159 And then, my apologies, I think I got, I'm sorry. 350 00:14:54,159 --> 00:14:55,799 No, the west is the type C buffer. 351 00:14:55,799 --> 00:14:57,639 I've got my directions backwards there. 352 00:14:57,639 --> 00:14:59,679 So type C buffer between them and residential, 353 00:14:59,679 --> 00:15:01,440 and then a type B buffer is required 354 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,879 between the non-residential use and the gas well. 355 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,399 So that would be here along the eastern 356 00:15:08,399 --> 00:15:09,519 and western property boundaries. 357 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:11,440 They're also meeting all of the street tree requirements 358 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,279 in the front as well as the parking lot screening 359 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:15,000 requirements. 360 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,460 So overall, they've met and exceeded 361 00:15:17,460 --> 00:15:20,360 all of the landscaping requirements with this development. 362 00:15:21,799 --> 00:15:23,240 Some of our considerations. 363 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,940 The intent of these pedestrian-oriented district standards 364 00:15:25,940 --> 00:15:29,039 is to encourage walkable urban-style development 365 00:15:29,039 --> 00:15:30,559 in areas that we would expect 366 00:15:30,559 --> 00:15:32,720 to have high pedestrian activity. 367 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,720 The code does define a pedestrian-oriented district 368 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,360 as every neighborhood residential district 369 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,320 as well as our central business district. 370 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,279 So it's actually a large part of the city 371 00:15:42,279 --> 00:15:44,279 that's considered pedestrian-oriented. 372 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,399 But when looking at this a little deeper 373 00:15:48,399 --> 00:15:51,399 with the criteria for approval allowed for an ADP, 374 00:15:51,399 --> 00:15:54,159 one of those being preservation of existing neighborhoods, 375 00:15:54,159 --> 00:15:56,200 we found that this wouldn't be expected 376 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,480 to have any negative impact on the surrounding homes. 377 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,480 They're providing the required buffer. 378 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,320 It's a very small-scale development. 379 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,200 And in fact, by lowering the FAR 380 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,740 and only developing those 12,000 square feet of buildings 381 00:16:06,740 --> 00:16:08,919 in lieu of 160,000, 382 00:16:08,919 --> 00:16:10,360 they're making it more neighborhood-scale 383 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,919 and more compatible with the surrounding neighborhood. 384 00:16:14,159 --> 00:16:15,440 They're not necessarily requesting 385 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,879 to lower design standards with this development. 386 00:16:18,879 --> 00:16:20,320 They're choosing to develop the site 387 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,639 in a way that allows them to preserve 388 00:16:21,639 --> 00:16:22,799 all the environmental features 389 00:16:22,799 --> 00:16:24,019 and maintain a smaller scale 390 00:16:24,019 --> 00:16:26,799 that's more consistent with the neighborhood. 391 00:16:26,799 --> 00:16:28,480 This is a property that's remained undeveloped 392 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,879 for several years, so it would be contributing 393 00:16:30,879 --> 00:16:33,559 to this neighborhood in terms of the amenities there 394 00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:34,480 for the residents. 395 00:16:36,039 --> 00:16:38,200 All of the necessary infrastructure is in place 396 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,159 with Windsor Drive and water and sewer lines 397 00:16:40,159 --> 00:16:41,559 being available along there. 398 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,440 And then in terms of it resulting 399 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,480 in a high-quality development, 400 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,039 we found that the plaza area that they're proposing 401 00:16:49,039 --> 00:16:51,080 in front of the building does help meet the intent 402 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,659 of being pedestrian-oriented, 403 00:16:52,659 --> 00:16:54,779 provides direct connectivity between the sidewalks 404 00:16:54,779 --> 00:16:56,600 on the street and the building. 405 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,240 And then, as I mentioned, by not meeting the FAR 406 00:16:59,240 --> 00:16:59,759 requirements, 407 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:01,919 they're actually making it more compatible and scale 408 00:17:01,919 --> 00:17:03,559 with the surrounding neighborhood. 409 00:17:04,539 --> 00:17:06,960 So staff is recommending approval of the request, 410 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,440 and I'd be happy to answer any questions. 411 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:10,599 - Commissioner Bec. 412 00:17:10,599 --> 00:17:11,420 - Thank you, Chair. 413 00:17:11,420 --> 00:17:12,759 Thanks, Haley, for that presentation. 414 00:17:12,759 --> 00:17:15,180 I just realized something I was looking at. 415 00:17:15,180 --> 00:17:20,180 The land north of this tract is on planned development. 416 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,579 Now, this development, they're not gonna touch 417 00:17:24,579 --> 00:17:28,000 that ESA area at all, so it's gonna remain pristine, 418 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:28,839 so to speak. 419 00:17:29,759 --> 00:17:31,200 And you may not be able to answer this. 420 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,900 This may be a debravere question, 421 00:17:32,900 --> 00:17:34,559 so if you don't feel comfortable doing that, 422 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:35,500 that's fine, I understand. 423 00:17:35,500 --> 00:17:37,420 Let me see if I can put this correctly. 424 00:17:37,420 --> 00:17:39,099 When they go in and do their development, 425 00:17:39,099 --> 00:17:41,960 they'll be able to alter that some, 426 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,079 provided it meets certain criteria. 427 00:17:45,039 --> 00:17:50,039 In that move, when they do that, 428 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,279 if that negatively impacts this more pristine area 429 00:17:53,279 --> 00:17:55,359 that's not being impacted, 430 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,400 we got provisions for that 431 00:18:00,740 --> 00:18:03,680 to ensure that they'll be able to develop on this land, 432 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,119 they have to preserve so many trees 433 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,920 and protect the ESA and all that, 434 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,559 but they're gonna impact it somewhere. 435 00:18:09,559 --> 00:18:11,940 The one on this tract of land isn't being impacted at all, 436 00:18:11,940 --> 00:18:14,400 so there could be negative consequences 437 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,880 as a result of future development 438 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,119 on the planned development area. 439 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,559 So is that gonna be taken into consideration on the formula 440 00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:22,559 , 441 00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:24,319 or do you feel uncomfortable trying that? 442 00:18:24,319 --> 00:18:27,359 - No, I can speak to some generalities there. 443 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,500 So in terms of the site to the north, 444 00:18:30,500 --> 00:18:33,519 it'll really depend on what their flood plan designation is 445 00:18:33,519 --> 00:18:33,519 . 446 00:18:33,519 --> 00:18:35,079 If it is within the 100-year flood plan, 447 00:18:35,079 --> 00:18:38,319 I believe the ESA flood plan regulations would also kick in 448 00:18:38,319 --> 00:18:38,599 . 449 00:18:38,599 --> 00:18:41,279 So what they would be allowed to do would depend on 450 00:18:41,279 --> 00:18:43,319 both the FEMA designation for the property 451 00:18:43,319 --> 00:18:44,960 and the ESA designation. 452 00:18:45,819 --> 00:18:47,680 So it's possible that they would have to go through 453 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,079 something like an alternative ESA 454 00:18:49,079 --> 00:18:51,400 or a letter of map revision. 455 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,319 So I'm not sure if they're proposing anything 456 00:18:53,319 --> 00:18:54,359 in that specific area, 457 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,480 but they would have to meet those same requirements. 458 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,059 And then just in terms of general requirements, 459 00:19:00,059 --> 00:19:01,880 they're not allowed to have a negative drainage impact 460 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:02,839 on the site to the south. 461 00:19:02,839 --> 00:19:05,480 So there would be at least that control in place. 462 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:06,680 - Okay, okay. 463 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,160 We'll probably deal with that down the road. 464 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,440 Just wanna get some help with that. 465 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,880 I do have a couple other concerns. 466 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,799 That buffer on the west side there, 467 00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:17,319 that doesn't include a fence, does it? 468 00:19:17,319 --> 00:19:18,880 Just trees and bushes? 469 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,480 - Yeah, our landscape buffer requirements 470 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,720 are strictly trees and shrubs. 471 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:22,599 - Okay. 472 00:19:22,599 --> 00:19:26,440 And wasn't there a concern, we dealt with this earlier, 473 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,119 this property, and it seemed like we had some residents 474 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,579 come in and they were concerned about development here, 475 00:19:31,579 --> 00:19:33,799 how it would flood Windsor. 476 00:19:33,799 --> 00:19:35,200 Wasn't that a legitimate concern 477 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,039 that we didn't have the drainage there? 478 00:19:38,039 --> 00:19:39,799 Am I thinking of something else? 479 00:19:39,799 --> 00:19:42,140 Does that ring a bell? 480 00:19:42,140 --> 00:19:44,759 - I'm not aware of a specific concern there. 481 00:19:44,759 --> 00:19:48,460 I know for this site, based on the data we've seen so far, 482 00:19:48,460 --> 00:19:50,339 the drainage and detention pond that they're providing 483 00:19:50,339 --> 00:19:52,359 would be sufficient to address the development here. 484 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,359 - I did notice that we're gonna grade it back 485 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,839 towards the north there. 486 00:19:57,839 --> 00:19:59,920 - Yeah, I believe that, yeah. 487 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:02,680 - Okay, okay, but that's not an issue 488 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,359 we need to worry about now as far as-- 489 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:05,200 - Not that I'm aware of. 490 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,920 - Okay, great, thank you. 491 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,319 - Any other questions for Hailey? 492 00:20:13,319 --> 00:20:14,680 Commissioner Ellis. 493 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:15,880 - Thank you, Chair. 494 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,000 Hailey, back to that buffer 495 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,880 where the single-family homes are. 496 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,559 So is there's no fence between this development 497 00:20:21,559 --> 00:20:24,200 and those property owners? 498 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,640 - I believe the existing homes have fences 499 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,480 along that property line. 500 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,079 - So that would be the line, 501 00:20:29,079 --> 00:20:30,880 and then there would just be these trees? 502 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:31,799 - That's correct, yeah. 503 00:20:31,799 --> 00:20:34,359 Our buffer requirements don't require a fence. 504 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,559 They can install one if they choose to, 505 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:38,359 but we don't require a fence at this time. 506 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,200 - And how is it determined? 507 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,960 I see you have six trees, 25. 508 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,200 Is that what they're proposing, 509 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,519 or is that what's required? 510 00:20:46,519 --> 00:20:48,019 - That's both. 511 00:20:48,019 --> 00:20:48,960 That's the code requirement, 512 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:49,880 and they're meeting that number. 513 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:50,920 - How's that figured? 514 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:54,279 - I'm honestly not sure how we came up with that 515 00:20:54,279 --> 00:20:54,720 requirement, 516 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,559 but it is a standard for each of our buffers. 517 00:20:56,559 --> 00:21:00,039 There's a set number of trees and shrubs per 100 linear 518 00:21:00,039 --> 00:21:00,559 feet. 519 00:21:00,559 --> 00:21:03,200 And typically the more intense the buffer, 520 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,799 type C or D, requires more trees and less shrubs. 521 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:10,119 The ratio kind of trades off as the buffer intensifies. 522 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:12,480 - Okay. 523 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:15,759 Another question I had. 524 00:21:15,759 --> 00:21:18,720 This is just feeding out into Windsor, correct? 525 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:19,559 - In terms of access? 526 00:21:19,559 --> 00:21:20,400 - Yes. 527 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,039 - Yes, their only driveway would be here on Windsor. 528 00:21:22,039 --> 00:21:26,559 Do you know what the services are planned there? 529 00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:29,039 I was just curious at what is the traffic flow 530 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:30,759 in this development? 531 00:21:30,759 --> 00:21:33,440 - I haven't seen the traffic generation for this. 532 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,720 I don't believe they triggered the requirements for a TIA 533 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,720 with the small size of the development. 534 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,480 But that is something that we'll look into 535 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,700 with their site plan. 536 00:21:42,700 --> 00:21:44,319 The property's already plotted at this point, 537 00:21:44,319 --> 00:21:47,160 so when they get to a full site plan, 538 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,440 engineering would review the traffic data. 539 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,240 - Yeah, I know something was mentioned in there, 540 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,720 a left turn lane that was required. 541 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,559 So somebody must have done some kind of study. 542 00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:56,119 I think I read that on there. 543 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,079 It might have been in the narrative that they provided. 544 00:21:59,079 --> 00:22:00,900 - I believe it was, yeah, you're correct. 545 00:22:00,900 --> 00:22:03,799 I think they were proposing a left turn lane on Windsor. 546 00:22:03,799 --> 00:22:04,640 - Okay. 547 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,480 Okay, I think that's all I have at the moment, thanks. 548 00:22:12,539 --> 00:22:14,279 - Any other questions on this item? 549 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:19,720 Okay, thank you, Hayden. 550 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,039 - Sure, legal? 551 00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:26,400 - Yeah, so I'm gonna have to say that I misspoke 552 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,400 when Council Member Ellis, you asked whether on item 2A 553 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,400 on the consent agenda, whether we would have to take 554 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,440 one individual because of the abstention. 555 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:41,440 And I was confirmed with the 229 of our code ordinances, 556 00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:45,240 a member can't abstain from a vote 557 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,759 if they don't have a conflict or for other reasons. 558 00:22:47,759 --> 00:22:51,200 And so that would require us to take a separate vote for A, 559 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,799 then when the chair came back, the council could, 560 00:22:54,799 --> 00:22:57,180 the commission could vote on B and C. 561 00:22:57,180 --> 00:23:00,720 So those present, not including the abstention, 562 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,559 would vote on A, then we have a separate vote for B and C. 563 00:23:07,559 --> 00:23:08,640 - Okay, we got it. 564 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,839 All right, that will move us from our items 565 00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:20,880 for individual consideration. 566 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,519 To our public hearing section for later this evening. 567 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:30,359 And item A, we'll call on Hayley for a presentation 568 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,319 and then Cindy Jackson for the next item. 569 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,640 - So this is a replant for the 510 villas. 570 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,460 The property is approximately 10 and a half acres 571 00:23:53,460 --> 00:23:56,279 located on the west side of Fort Worth Drive. 572 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,900 It is just south of Collins Street, 573 00:23:58,900 --> 00:24:03,059 which is here to the north around these apartments. 574 00:24:03,059 --> 00:24:06,000 What they're proposing is two lots, 575 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,799 the northern lot is intended for a mixed use development, 576 00:24:08,799 --> 00:24:11,299 multifamily and commercial along Fort Worth Drive. 577 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,720 Not aware of any specific plans for lot two at the moment, 578 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,880 but this is a replant. 579 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,220 It was actually two lots at one point. 580 00:24:20,220 --> 00:24:25,220 The former lot line for lot one was this general area here. 581 00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:27,980 And then lot two was the back portion of the property, 582 00:24:27,980 --> 00:24:29,480 this southern piece here. 583 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:34,140 And this northern portion was just over two acres 584 00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:36,259 that was previously unplatted property. 585 00:24:36,259 --> 00:24:39,680 So we're combining or reconfiguring two platted lots 586 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,519 and a portion of unplatted property. 587 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,440 - Commissioner Beck. 588 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,380 - Thank you, Chair, sorry. 589 00:24:47,380 --> 00:24:50,680 - Okay, could you, with your cursor, 590 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,279 could you draw that line and show us what we're looking at? 591 00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:54,220 - Certainly. 592 00:24:54,220 --> 00:24:56,720 So what we have, the proposal, 593 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,640 this line down the middle would subdivide 594 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,759 a lot one on the north, lot two on the south. 595 00:25:01,759 --> 00:25:03,279 The original configuration, 596 00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:07,099 we had unplatted property just over two acres up here. 597 00:25:08,279 --> 00:25:12,960 Lot one of the original plat was this area here. 598 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,960 And then lot two was all of this back area 599 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,279 and the southern piece. 600 00:25:16,279 --> 00:25:20,839 - Okay, so we're going to one lot? 601 00:25:20,839 --> 00:25:21,680 - Two lots. 602 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:22,500 - Two lots, okay. 603 00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:25,119 Now is lot one still that line? 604 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,400 - Lot one is this entire northern. 605 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,119 - Okay, so that line going through the middle there, 606 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,920 that was, I guess, the previous one. 607 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,720 - This is the existing plot line. 608 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,160 - No, above that, yes, that. 609 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,279 That's not a boundary line for lot one? 610 00:25:38,279 --> 00:25:40,680 - That is the existing boundary of lot one 611 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,079 of the original plat that's being removed by this plot. 612 00:25:43,079 --> 00:25:44,440 - Okay, thank you. 613 00:25:46,279 --> 00:25:47,279 - Thank you. 614 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,480 - Any other questions for Haley on this item? 615 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,380 Okay, thank you, Haley. 616 00:26:16,279 --> 00:26:21,279 Okay, Z17-0034 is a request for approval 617 00:26:31,039 --> 00:26:36,039 to rezone a 0.81 acre property from the RCCN district 618 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,799 to the RCCD district. 619 00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:42,799 You can see the site right here, bordered by yellow. 620 00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:47,799 The site is located generally on the northeast side of I-35 621 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:53,400 and about approximately 627 feet southeast of Mayhill. 622 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,880 The quick trip is here and then Dickies 623 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,940 and then the care facility is here. 624 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,299 This shows the current zoning map 625 00:27:03,299 --> 00:27:06,440 and the site zoning as RCCN. 626 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,259 And if the site, if this is request approved, 627 00:27:10,259 --> 00:27:11,759 this shows how the map will look 628 00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:14,079 with the site rezoned to RCCD. 629 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,400 The subject area has a land use designation 630 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,339 of regional mixed use. 631 00:27:24,339 --> 00:27:27,000 This designation is typically located 632 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,319 along the I-35 interchanges. 633 00:27:29,319 --> 00:27:32,619 It's also located along primary arterials 634 00:27:32,619 --> 00:27:37,619 and it's intended for regional uses 635 00:27:37,660 --> 00:27:42,660 such as shopping centers, large multifamily uses, 636 00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:47,980 car dealerships. 637 00:27:47,980 --> 00:27:49,759 The applicant is proposing actually 638 00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:52,279 to use the site for a car dealership 639 00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:55,480 and the types of uses and scale of development 640 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,319 that are permitted in the requested RCC district, 641 00:27:58,319 --> 00:27:59,880 they do conform to the goals 642 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,980 of the regional mixed use designation. 643 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,920 The RCCD district would actually be a continuation 644 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,960 of the existing RCCD district that surrounds the area. 645 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,920 Directly next door to the east is the RCR1 district 646 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,920 and then on the south on the other side of I-35 is RCCN. 647 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,000 And then somewhat back off of the freeway 648 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,680 we've got NR4 and NR2 right here 649 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,960 which is part of Unicorn Lake. 650 00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:39,519 The uses permitted in the RCCD district 651 00:28:39,519 --> 00:28:42,720 are consistent with the uses that exist in the area today 652 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,960 which include automobile sales and service, offices, 653 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,119 hospitality and restaurant and commercial uses. 654 00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:57,839 Access to the site will be taken from I-35 service road. 655 00:28:59,559 --> 00:29:02,200 Water and sewer is available from the site. 656 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,640 I-35 is designated freeway 657 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:09,119 and Mayhill Road is a primary arterial roadway. 658 00:29:09,119 --> 00:29:12,880 So the site has plenty of access available. 659 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,160 Six certified notices were sent out 660 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,680 to areas within 200 feet of the property 661 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,039 with property owners within 200 feet of the property 662 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:30,039 on April 8th and 14 courtesy notices were sent out 663 00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:34,000 to properties within 500 feet of the notice 664 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,759 of the subject site. 665 00:29:35,759 --> 00:29:40,759 And as of today we've not received any responses to them. 666 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,440 The DDC has two criteria for approval of a zoning request. 667 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,759 One is that the request, 668 00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:56,279 the proposal conforms to the future land use designation 669 00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:59,319 and this request does indeed conform 670 00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:02,200 to the future land use designation. 671 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,680 And one is that it facilitates the provision 672 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,920 of infrastructure. 673 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,880 The infrastructure is already in place. 674 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,960 The site was originally developed as a gas station. 675 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,119 It has since been closed and the tanks have been removed. 676 00:30:16,119 --> 00:30:19,119 However, it does still have water and sewer available. 677 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,160 That concludes my presentation. 678 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,160 - Questions? 679 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,970 I have one question, how are we treating all these rezon 680 00:30:32,970 --> 00:30:33,160 ings 681 00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:37,319 in tying them into the future zoning map 682 00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:39,920 with the DDC update that's coming? 683 00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:44,680 - With the rezonings, these people will be vested 684 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,680 in the use standards and development standards 685 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,000 that we are currently under. 686 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:52,839 - Okay. 687 00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:57,559 - So the site will be rezoned to whatever 688 00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:01,400 the designation will match the future land use. 689 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,599 However, they are vested in our rules today. 690 00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:05,440 - Okay. 691 00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:10,720 And I think maybe staff might have some further input 692 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,359 or clarification on that with the DDC update. 693 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,039 I don't know if you wanna take that up now 694 00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:18,039 or with the DDC update. 695 00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:19,160 - Do you wanna do that when I'm finished 696 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,000 with my presentation? 697 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,079 - Yeah, I mean, it's my mission. 698 00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:23,720 I have to try and fix it. 699 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,559 - Okay. 700 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,319 Commissioner Beck. 701 00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:29,440 - Thanks, I'm glad you asked that question, Chair, 702 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,119 'cause that was going through my mind too. 703 00:31:31,119 --> 00:31:33,519 But it seems to, even though it's gonna go 704 00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:36,240 by the existing rules, it seems like it would fit 705 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,480 that corridor along that line. 706 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,079 That's the only reason I wasn't too concerned about 707 00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:42,400 but I'm glad you asked that. 708 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,039 And I guess there'll be some more clarification 709 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:46,880 from Ron when he comes up, so. 710 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,019 - It will, and it conforms with our new Denton plan, 711 00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:53,680 future land use designation, 712 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,720 which is what our zoning is modeled after. 713 00:31:57,279 --> 00:31:59,519 Just for clarification, where I was going with that 714 00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:02,640 is that I know we've developed what's gonna be 715 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,279 the rezone of the whole city based on 716 00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:06,359 what current zonings are. 717 00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:08,640 And if they're changing their zoning, 718 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,720 I wanted to just bring it to light 719 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,599 that we go back and look at whatever they're zoning to 720 00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:17,819 is in either comparable or better than 721 00:32:17,819 --> 00:32:22,279 what they may currently be shown as in the rezoning map. 722 00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:25,640 That the update in zoning they get now is the same, 723 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,200 but it's not one of those blocks, well, 724 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,440 it was this and our future zoning kept it in that category 725 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,079 and it kind of-- - Exactly. 726 00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:38,400 So the applicant, whatever they choose to do with this, 727 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,359 if they decide to redevelop it, 728 00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:44,859 they can stay with our current regulations 729 00:32:44,859 --> 00:32:47,119 or they have a choice of going with the new regulations 730 00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:48,359 when the time comes. 731 00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:49,200 - Okay, great. 732 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,279 - Thank you. 733 00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:53,319 - Just to clear, this will, it's anticipated now 734 00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:55,559 to be highway commercial, which is, okay. 735 00:32:56,559 --> 00:32:59,400 But honestly, the most intense that we wouldn't have 736 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,200 throughout the city. 737 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,920 - Okay, great. 738 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,079 Any other questions for Cindy on this item? 739 00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:09,599 - Okay. 740 00:33:11,559 --> 00:33:14,400 - I think that will take us through our agenda items. 741 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:19,400 So we will go back now to our work session reports. 742 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,420 I assume Ron's gonna make that presentation 743 00:33:23,420 --> 00:33:27,200 before you get started, how long is your presentation? 744 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,720 Do we need to stop and break? 745 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,920 - Be really short. - Okay. 746 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,279 - Really short. - Well, go ahead. 747 00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:33,799 - So just really quickly, this is an opportunity 748 00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:37,599 to brief the PNZ of the subcommittee, 749 00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:41,480 the DCRC Development Code Review Committee's actions 750 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,700 or discussions. 751 00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:48,839 Last week, we met on the 18th 752 00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:55,759 and really, we just covered the subchapters, 753 00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:58,160 subchapters six, seven, and eight, 754 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,279 similar to what you all discussed with Clarion 755 00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:01,480 when they were here. 756 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,119 And just high level, we talked about fencing, 757 00:34:06,119 --> 00:34:11,119 the use of chain link, landscaping, and even solid waste. 758 00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:14,599 But we didn't really get into details. 759 00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:17,320 The hope is that when we have our meeting, 760 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,599 actually our next meeting is tomorrow with the committee 761 00:34:20,599 --> 00:34:22,920 and we'll be focusing on subchapter one, 762 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,760 starting with that. 763 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,519 And at that point, we'll go a little bit more 764 00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:30,000 into details page by page and answering 765 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,360 and presenting that subchapter. 766 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,920 So really not an update other than we discussed, 767 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,239 again, six, seven, eight, very high level 768 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,880 with Clarion when they were here. 769 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,059 And our next meeting, again, is tomorrow. 770 00:34:44,059 --> 00:34:46,719 After that, we should have a little bit more information 771 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,559 as far as presenting back to the Planning, 772 00:34:48,559 --> 00:34:49,539 Zoning Commission. 773 00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:54,000 As it relates to the question earlier with the zoning, 774 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,079 we, when I say we, staff collectively understand 775 00:34:57,079 --> 00:34:59,760 that any rezoning that's going forward, 776 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,960 we have to pay really strict attention to it 777 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,119 because we don't wanna be approving something 778 00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:07,840 and I'll find out later with the proposed rezoning, 779 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,280 it's changed dramatically. 780 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,159 What we're doing also is making sure 781 00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:15,360 that we keep track of these approvals, 782 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,519 go back and verify our proposed or draft zoning map 783 00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:21,360 so that, again, if there's something that's changed 784 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,960 or is proposed to change, we address it 785 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,280 before the code gets updated or before the map gets updated 786 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,360 and considered by City Council. 787 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,179 Yeah. 788 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,119 - Any questions? 789 00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:37,820 I've got a couple. 790 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,920 Can you share with us what the process is gonna be 791 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,820 as we continue going through these code updates? 792 00:35:48,599 --> 00:35:53,599 As far as what sort of public input city staff 793 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,280 or commissions are getting, these subcommittees 794 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,039 from citizens, property owners, say, okay, we reviewed it, 795 00:36:02,039 --> 00:36:04,239 we have some questions or concerns 796 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,599 and is there gonna be some type of comments, 797 00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:13,320 red lines type draft that at some point comes back, 798 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,260 we have the information come before the commission 799 00:36:16,260 --> 00:36:19,639 and say, we've sent it out, we've gotten 100 comments, 800 00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:21,000 here's what we've done to address them 801 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,380 and here's how we've changed it. 802 00:36:22,380 --> 00:36:23,760 Can you-- - Sure, no, 803 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,480 that's a great question, it's the last comment. 804 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,800 We also had the same request from the committee. 805 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,880 We are currently in a series of public open houses 806 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,840 where people can come in and ask questions. 807 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,519 We are tracking every comment through comment cards. 808 00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:40,800 Those comment cards are available 809 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,159 at the public open houses. 810 00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:45,519 They can come to our offices and we fill out 811 00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:46,960 the same comment cards. 812 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,280 Ultimately, what we want is to have these comments 813 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,840 in a spreadsheet and that spreadsheet 814 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,920 is what we will produce to the subcommittee 815 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,039 and also the PNZ if as requested. 816 00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:03,670 At that spreadsheet, we will identify those common comments 817 00:37:03,670 --> 00:37:04,039 . 818 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,559 We will then forward those comments to our consultants 819 00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:11,800 and use it with staff to redraft or revise 820 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,119 the next official draft and that next official draft 821 00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:17,480 is what we're calling a consolidated draft. 822 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,920 So currently we have a public draft which is online 823 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,920 which people have the opportunity to review 824 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,440 and provide comments. 825 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,980 Again, through the comment cards, through email, 826 00:37:26,980 --> 00:37:29,960 through phone call, any information that are, 827 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,860 request questions they may have, 828 00:37:31,860 --> 00:37:33,800 they can present it to the staff. 829 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,199 We will then again add it to our spreadsheet. 830 00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:39,639 Spreadsheet gets consolidated or compiled, 831 00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:42,679 forwarded to our consultants and they will use that 832 00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:45,320 with staff to draft the next version 833 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,280 which is the consolidated draft. 834 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,960 And at that point, hopefully you will see 835 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,920 where the changes have occurred 836 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,019 based on the comments we've received 837 00:37:54,019 --> 00:37:56,519 and we'll have a red line. 838 00:37:56,519 --> 00:38:00,199 The consultants are prepared to do that. 839 00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:01,719 - Okay, there's a follow-up to that. 840 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,039 That's great to hear and I think that's 841 00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:05,780 like a great approach. 842 00:38:05,780 --> 00:38:08,400 Can you give us an idea approximately how many comment 843 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:08,920 cards 844 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,719 or emails that you've gotten from the general public so far 845 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:12,019 ? 846 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,480 - Sean, if he can let me, he's the one 847 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,800 he's actually compiling it. 848 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,000 I forward it to him. 849 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,880 Every email I get, Sean, here you go. 850 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,039 If you can come up here. 851 00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:24,000 And by the way, this is Sean Jacobson. 852 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,440 He is our new assistant planner, 853 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,820 prior intern for the planning division, so Sean Jacobson. 854 00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:33,719 - Good evening. 855 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,880 So I'm giving you an estimate but what we have 856 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,380 in this spreadsheet as of now, I would say 857 00:38:39,380 --> 00:38:42,800 we're approaching 50 to 60 comments 858 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,199 and we've been gathering those actually 859 00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:46,159 since the very beginning of this process. 860 00:38:46,159 --> 00:38:49,000 So that includes every email, phone call 861 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,280 and comment card we've received. 862 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,199 Actually added one today, someone called in 863 00:38:53,199 --> 00:38:55,079 and then he had his brother call in to say the same thing 864 00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:58,039 'cause they really wanted to get that message across. 865 00:38:58,039 --> 00:39:00,239 We record all of that as well as our responses 866 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,480 to those individuals should that be of interest to them. 867 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,880 - Great, thank you. 868 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,119 - Just to add to that too, and we're also gonna be adding 869 00:39:08,119 --> 00:39:12,159 this to the spreadsheet, we've met that is 870 00:39:12,159 --> 00:39:16,840 with the developers, DCDA committee or alliance 871 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,039 and they've forwarded us their comments as well. 872 00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:23,239 So we have copies of that so we'll be folding that in 873 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,800 as part of the spreadsheet. 874 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,519 So again, everything's gonna be in this spreadsheet again 875 00:39:28,519 --> 00:39:31,360 so that everyone can see what those comments are 876 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,679 and then we'll be using that to monitor 877 00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:36,679 what we do with those comments. 878 00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:37,519 - Great. 879 00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:38,800 Commissioner Sullivan. 880 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,800 - So we're not gonna have another kind of a snafu, 881 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,400 I think that we had once before 882 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,559 when there were all these comments 883 00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:50,800 and the developer or whoever it was said, 884 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,960 oh yeah, we took all that into consideration 885 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,639 and yet they hadn't. 886 00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:58,280 And so every comment's gonna be considered 887 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,519 and looked at and talked about, addressed. 888 00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:04,619 - Yes, yes, so the idea there is if there's common comments 889 00:40:04,619 --> 00:40:04,619 , 890 00:40:04,619 --> 00:40:07,320 we will compile those and those will obviously 891 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,840 be something we will address individually. 892 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:10,800 - Okay, thank you. 893 00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:16,480 - Is there something? 894 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,320 No? 895 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,960 You look like you're pondering whether you're gonna 896 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,199 ask a question or not. 897 00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:21,039 (laughing) 898 00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:23,000 - I mean, was there something that I missed 899 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,239 with the DCRC that we discussed? 900 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,079 - Commissioner Ellis. 901 00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:28,320 - Thank you, Chair. 902 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,719 No, Ron, as a matter of fact, 903 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,880 I asked the same question you asked, Chair, 904 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,039 which was how are we compiling these comments? 905 00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:36,440 So, and I can add this, 906 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,599 I am on another committee where Sean has been present 907 00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:42,039 and he is an excellent data compiler. 908 00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:44,880 I have seen him in action multiple times. 909 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,079 So I believe that spreadsheet's in good hands. 910 00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:48,360 I look forward to seeing it. 911 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,920 - Twice, permanent staff. 912 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:50,760 - Yep. 913 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,639 (laughing) 914 00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:54,519 - Great. - All right. 915 00:40:54,519 --> 00:40:56,039 - Any other questions for Ron? 916 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:57,800 - Thank you all. 917 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,679 - I like how you're doing a great job, thank you. 918 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:01,719 Okay. 919 00:41:02,780 --> 00:41:05,840 With that, I'm gonna close our work session 920 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,840 at 5.42 and we will reconvene in council chambers at 6.30. 921 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,159 Thank you. 922 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,960 - Good evening and welcome to the City of Denton 923 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,440 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting 924 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,239 for April 25th, 2018. 925 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,800 This meeting's been duly posted 926 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,360 and we do have a quorum present 927 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,360 and I will call us to order at this time at 6.33. 928 00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:44,360 Our first order of business will be to stand 929 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,920 and give the pledge to the US and the Texas flags. 930 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,480 - I pledge allegiance to the flag 931 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,719 of the United States of America 932 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,519 and to the Republic for which it stands, 933 00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:01,840 one nation under God, indivisible, 934 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,440 with liberty and justice for all. 935 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,800 - Honor the Texas flag. 936 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,760 I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, 937 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,480 one state under God, one and indivisible. 938 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,960 I will take us to our consent agenda 939 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,920 and we're gonna split our consent agenda 940 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,920 into item two A and then follow with item two B and C. 941 00:42:36,039 --> 00:42:39,960 I as chair have a conflict of interest on item A 942 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,760 and so at this time I'm gonna step out 943 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,639 and I'm gonna turn it over to Commissioner Alice. 944 00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:55,679 - Okay, thank you chair. 945 00:42:55,679 --> 00:42:57,079 With the chair's recusal, 946 00:42:57,079 --> 00:43:01,000 we will consider consent agenda item A, 947 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,960 consider request by Prime Denton Properties LLC 948 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,840 for approval of a final plaque. 949 00:43:08,679 --> 00:43:11,320 - And I will entertain discussion or motion. 950 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,239 Commissioner Beck. 951 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,360 - Motion that we approve FP 170032. 952 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,599 - Commissioner Sullivan. 953 00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:26,719 - I second that. 954 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,320 - Okay, we have a motion to approve and a second. 955 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,320 Any discussion? 956 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,199 Okay, let's call for a vote. 957 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,559 Motion will carry four to zero. 958 00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:49,119 We can call the chair back in. 959 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,139 - Thank you chair. 960 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,679 - Okay, thank you everyone. 961 00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:12,440 Sorry to have to split that and take a little more time. 962 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:17,440 That will pick up now on our consent agenda items B and C. 963 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:20,960 The chair will entertain a motion. 964 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,559 Commissioner Ellis. 965 00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:23,400 - Thank you chair. 966 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:28,039 And I will move to approve consent agenda item B and C. 967 00:44:28,039 --> 00:44:28,880 - Okay, thank you. 968 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:29,699 Commissioner Beck. 969 00:44:29,699 --> 00:44:30,539 - Second. 970 00:44:30,539 --> 00:44:32,599 - Okay, we have a first and a second for approval. 971 00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:33,960 Any further discussion? 972 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,639 Seeing none, I'll call for a vote on the board. 973 00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:48,760 Motion's gonna carry five to zero. 974 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,719 That will take us to our agenda this evening, 975 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,039 our individual items for consideration. 976 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,760 This time I'll call on Haley Zagorski 977 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,519 for item A ADP 18-0001. 978 00:45:13,420 --> 00:45:17,460 - Good evening, this is item ADP 01 for Iglesia Lahermosa. 979 00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:21,119 The request before you is for approval of an ADP 980 00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:23,159 to deviate from two of the requirements 981 00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:26,000 within our non-residential and mixed use standards 982 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,960 for pedestrian oriented districts. 983 00:45:29,639 --> 00:45:33,159 The site is a 9.43 acres located on the north side 984 00:45:33,159 --> 00:45:35,980 of Windsor Road to the west of Bonnie Bray. 985 00:45:35,980 --> 00:45:37,480 The current zoning for the property 986 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,559 is neighborhood residential two districts, 987 00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:41,019 so low density residential. 988 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,800 Looking at what is proposed, 989 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,260 we have approximately 12,000 square feet of buildings. 990 00:45:48,260 --> 00:45:51,360 The building would be subdivided into the three areas 991 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,960 you see outlined in orange on the map. 992 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,239 It would consist of a church, a Bible school building, 993 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,800 and a room for events. 994 00:45:57,639 --> 00:46:00,380 Overall, the proposal is equivalent 995 00:46:00,380 --> 00:46:02,639 to 13 and a half percent lot coverage, 996 00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:07,110 so 86.5% of the site will remain natural or landscaped area 997 00:46:07,110 --> 00:46:07,440 . 998 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,300 They require a total of 75 parking spaces for the use 999 00:46:10,300 --> 00:46:14,159 that are proposed to the east of the buildings. 1000 00:46:14,159 --> 00:46:16,840 Some other key features, on the north end of the property, 1001 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,719 there is a significant area of a flood plain 1002 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,039 and environmentally sensitive area 1003 00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:24,199 that's all being left intact with no disturbance. 1004 00:46:24,199 --> 00:46:26,280 And just to the east of the property 1005 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,880 on the adjoining parcel is a gas well site. 1006 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,760 So due to this being a church, 1007 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,360 that is considered a protected use. 1008 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,719 And they do have a 250 foot reverse setback. 1009 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,360 So you can see the red arrow is the measurement 1010 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,679 from the pad site boundary into the property. 1011 00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:43,400 And then that arc represents the 250 foot radius 1012 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,400 that the buildings had to stay outside of. 1013 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,719 So the specific requests associated with this site plan, 1014 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,760 the first is a requirement that at least 60% 1015 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,199 of the street frontage have buildings 1016 00:46:55,199 --> 00:46:57,519 within 10 feet of the property line. 1017 00:46:57,519 --> 00:46:59,320 The closest building shown on that site plan 1018 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,199 is about 42 feet from the property line. 1019 00:47:02,199 --> 00:47:03,159 In front of the building, 1020 00:47:03,159 --> 00:47:05,039 to make it a pedestrian friendly space, 1021 00:47:05,039 --> 00:47:07,079 they've proposed a plaza that would include sidewalks, 1022 00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:08,780 a fountain, and flag poles. 1023 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,400 Just to give you a comparison, 1024 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,280 if they were to meet that 60% requirement, 1025 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,480 that would be 271 feet of building, 1026 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,639 which exceeds the frontage of all of the buildings 1027 00:47:17,639 --> 00:47:18,960 they're proposing combined. 1028 00:47:20,679 --> 00:47:22,119 The second requirement is that 1029 00:47:22,119 --> 00:47:23,639 in pedestrian oriented districts, 1030 00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:27,079 there'd be a minimum floor area ratio of 0.4. 1031 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,000 In this case, with a property of 9.43 acres, 1032 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,119 that would equate to just over 164,000 square feet 1033 00:47:34,119 --> 00:47:35,440 of building area. 1034 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,159 What they've proposed is an FAR of 0.03, 1035 00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:41,460 which is the equivalent of the 12,000 square feet 1036 00:47:41,460 --> 00:47:42,300 of building. 1037 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,559 Just a quick summary of floor area ratio 1038 00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:49,820 is the result of dividing the total floor area of 1039 00:47:49,820 --> 00:47:50,360 structures 1040 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,320 by the total area of the lot. 1041 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,039 So for a 10 acre lot, 1042 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,920 see here to get to that 0.4 FAR required, 1043 00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,000 it would be around 170,000 square feet 1044 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,400 of building in this example. 1045 00:48:05,699 --> 00:48:08,300 Looking a little more detail on what they've proposed, 1046 00:48:08,300 --> 00:48:10,679 as I mentioned, they're leaving a significant amount 1047 00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:11,659 of the site undisturbed. 1048 00:48:11,659 --> 00:48:14,000 That's the area outlined in dark green on the map 1049 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,760 that contains a wooded area flood plain 1050 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,219 and then riparian buffer and flood plain ESA. 1051 00:48:21,519 --> 00:48:24,880 The ESA itself equates to approximately 2.78 acres 1052 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,500 out of the total. 1053 00:48:26,500 --> 00:48:29,199 They are providing the required compatibility buffers 1054 00:48:29,199 --> 00:48:31,440 on both the East and West property line 1055 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,639 between the church and the single family homes, 1056 00:48:33,639 --> 00:48:35,400 they're required to type C buffer. 1057 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,079 So that buffer is required to 1058 00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:38,840 and is proposed to contain six trees 1059 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,880 and 25 shrubs for each hundred feet. 1060 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,960 And then on the opposite side of the site, 1061 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,800 where they about the gas well, which is an industrial use, 1062 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,800 they have a type B buffer that's required to contain 1063 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,699 five trees and 30 shrubs for every 100 linear feet. 1064 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,579 Some other landscaping features, 1065 00:48:55,579 --> 00:48:57,500 they do meet all of the street tree and parking lot 1066 00:48:57,500 --> 00:48:57,960 screening 1067 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,360 and parking lot landscaping requirements as well. 1068 00:49:02,599 --> 00:49:05,699 So the intent of our pedestrian oriented districts 1069 00:49:05,699 --> 00:49:07,840 is to encourage walkable urban style development 1070 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,199 in areas where we anticipate 1071 00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:11,039 there'd be high pedestrian activity. 1072 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,760 The code goes on to define pedestrian oriented districts 1073 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,480 as all of the central business district, 1074 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:17,679 as well as all of the neighborhood 1075 00:49:17,679 --> 00:49:19,559 residential zoning districts. 1076 00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:21,039 So even in cases like this, 1077 00:49:21,039 --> 00:49:23,179 where we have primarily single family, 1078 00:49:23,179 --> 00:49:25,599 Windsor is not a high pedestrian traffic area, 1079 00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:27,260 that designation still applies. 1080 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,599 Looking at the criteria for approval of an ADP, 1081 00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:34,440 the first being preservation of existing neighborhoods. 1082 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,079 Through our analysis, staff found that this wouldn't 1083 00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:38,639 be likely to have any negative impact 1084 00:49:38,639 --> 00:49:40,559 on the surrounding neighborhood. 1085 00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:44,280 In fact, by deviating from the high FAR requirement, 1086 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,880 they're actually providing a development 1087 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,440 that's more neighborhood scale and consistent 1088 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,280 with the development in this area 1089 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,900 and those single family homes. 1090 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,519 The second criteria is to assure quality development. 1091 00:49:57,519 --> 00:49:59,159 We didn't find that their proposal is seeking 1092 00:49:59,159 --> 00:50:01,119 to lower the design standards in any way, 1093 00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:03,159 they're just proposing a smaller scale development 1094 00:50:03,159 --> 00:50:05,039 that's more consistent with the neighborhood 1095 00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:06,199 and allows for the preservation 1096 00:50:06,199 --> 00:50:08,400 of all the key environmental features on site. 1097 00:50:09,460 --> 00:50:10,800 As far as the next requirement, 1098 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,980 focusing new development to activity centers, 1099 00:50:12,980 --> 00:50:14,320 this is kind of an infill property, 1100 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,960 it's remained undeveloped for a significant amount of time, 1101 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,039 so this wouldn't be contributing 1102 00:50:19,039 --> 00:50:20,940 to the sprawl of the city in any way. 1103 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,000 All of the necessary infrastructure is in place 1104 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,840 along Windsor Drive. 1105 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,260 And to speak to a question that came up in work session 1106 00:50:29,260 --> 00:50:31,079 about the left turn lane, 1107 00:50:31,079 --> 00:50:32,239 I looked into that a little bit further 1108 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,920 and they've given preliminary traffic data 1109 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,360 to the city's traffic engineer 1110 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,800 to determine if that will be a requirement or not. 1111 00:50:39,519 --> 00:50:42,079 And then the final standard is that the result 1112 00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:43,199 is a high quality development 1113 00:50:43,199 --> 00:50:45,159 that meets the intent of the code. 1114 00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:47,320 By providing the plaza area as they proposed, 1115 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,840 they're still providing that direct pedestrian connectivity 1116 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,800 from Windsor to the development. 1117 00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:56,480 And as I mentioned before, by lowering the FAR of the site, 1118 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,880 they're actually making their development more consistent 1119 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,440 and less imposing on the surrounding neighborhood. 1120 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,639 With that, staff is recommending approval of the request 1121 00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:07,920 and I'd be happy to answer any other questions. 1122 00:51:08,860 --> 00:51:10,320 Commissioner Ellis. 1123 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,159 - Thank you, Chair. 1124 00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:12,519 Thank you, Haley. 1125 00:51:12,519 --> 00:51:14,519 One thing I forgot to ask at work session, 1126 00:51:14,519 --> 00:51:16,000 currently in our backup, 1127 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,960 it says the congregation is 150 parishioners, 1128 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:24,079 but the church is being built to seat 300 1129 00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:27,159 to allow room for the congregation to grow. 1130 00:51:27,159 --> 00:51:29,440 There's only 75 parking places now. 1131 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:30,920 I would imagine that's not going to work 1132 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,260 if the congregation does double like that. 1133 00:51:33,260 --> 00:51:38,260 So is there room there to build additional parking? 1134 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,159 - There could be room for additional parking 1135 00:51:40,159 --> 00:51:41,840 with how large the site is. 1136 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,679 The code requirement is one parking stall per four seats. 1137 00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:49,559 So they've allowed for that maximum of 300 seats 1138 00:51:49,559 --> 00:51:51,239 meets the current code requirement. 1139 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:52,679 - Doesn't seem like that would be enough 1140 00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:54,079 for 300 parishioners. 1141 00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:55,780 Okay, thank you. 1142 00:51:57,159 --> 00:51:58,320 - Commissioner Sanchez. 1143 00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:02,400 - Are they gonna be required to put a sidewalk 1144 00:52:03,420 --> 00:52:04,940 along their property? 1145 00:52:04,940 --> 00:52:06,000 - Yes. - Okay. 1146 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,840 - Yes, that will be part of the development. 1147 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,480 - So as that area gets developed, 1148 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,440 they'll run a sidewalk all on that end of the, 1149 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,039 that side of the road? 1150 00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:16,639 - Yeah, generally as each parcel develops, 1151 00:52:16,639 --> 00:52:18,440 it's responsible for providing the sidewalk 1152 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:19,360 along its frontage. 1153 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:20,940 - 'Cause there's a lot of people that walk 1154 00:52:20,940 --> 00:52:23,199 from those neighborhoods down to North Lakes. 1155 00:52:23,199 --> 00:52:25,280 You see them all the time running, jogging. 1156 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,079 So it'd be important that we have good sidewalks on that. 1157 00:52:29,079 --> 00:52:31,460 - Yes, yeah, and they will be providing the sidewalks 1158 00:52:31,460 --> 00:52:33,320 along their frontage and then concurrently 1159 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:34,440 as each piece develops, 1160 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,920 unless the CIP project comes along for that. 1161 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,360 They'll be developed piece by piece. 1162 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:40,199 - Okay. 1163 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,360 - Any other questions for Haley? 1164 00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:50,000 Commissioner Beck. 1165 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:50,840 - Thank you, Chair. 1166 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,440 Are we gonna have a representative for the project? 1167 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,280 - For next, yes sir. 1168 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,320 - Yeah, the applicant is here if there are any questions. 1169 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,280 - Okay, great. 1170 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:01,519 Okay, thank you, Haley. 1171 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,480 This item is for individual consideration. 1172 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,320 So if the applicant's here, 1173 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,960 be happy to have you come and tell us about your project. 1174 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,039 And if you're satisfied with staff presentation, 1175 00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:15,880 that's fine too. 1176 00:53:17,079 --> 00:53:19,280 - My name's Craig Bond, I'm with KJE. 1177 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:20,300 We're the engineer. 1178 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,000 He's a believer, he's gonna be the pastor at the church. 1179 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,239 I don't really have anything to add 1180 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,360 other than what Haley says, he does a great job. 1181 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:29,400 - Great. 1182 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,400 - Let me see. - If you have any questions 1183 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:31,239 that you might-- 1184 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,519 - I have one question so far, Commissioner Beck. 1185 00:53:33,519 --> 00:53:34,519 - Thank you, Chair, thank you. 1186 00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:35,920 Craig, what was your last name? 1187 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:36,880 - Craig Bond. 1188 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,519 - Bond, okay, thank you for coming up. 1189 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:41,480 Couple of things. 1190 00:53:42,599 --> 00:53:45,239 I didn't see anything on this plan 1191 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:50,239 about heading west on Windsor, 1192 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,239 maybe cutting in a little area 1193 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:54,599 before you pull into the drive. 1194 00:53:54,599 --> 00:53:57,320 Is there any plans of doing that so it doesn't impact, 1195 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,000 not that Windsor right now is a high traffic area, 1196 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,719 but maybe-- - We talked to the engineering 1197 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,440 staff and they thought that we could get by 1198 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:05,880 without a right turn lane. 1199 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,119 - Okay. - But they want us 1200 00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:09,039 to put in a left turn lane. 1201 00:54:09,039 --> 00:54:11,519 - Right, got that, that's a good thing. 1202 00:54:11,519 --> 00:54:13,960 But you don't see any future possibility 1203 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,380 of putting in that little extra right turn lane 1204 00:54:16,380 --> 00:54:18,320 going west on Windsor? 1205 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:19,840 Not now? - Probably rather not, 1206 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,320 because of the expense. 1207 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,239 And since folks will only be showing up 1208 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,800 probably on Wednesdays and Sundays, 1209 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,400 we don't anticipate a whole lot of traffic 1210 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,440 outside of those hours. - Okay. 1211 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:32,840 One other thing I would like to address, 1212 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,199 and I'm gonna say a little bit on it 1213 00:54:34,199 --> 00:54:35,119 before we actually go on it, 1214 00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:37,679 but just you're aware of the oil well, 1215 00:54:37,679 --> 00:54:39,360 the gas well that's nearby, right? 1216 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,599 - Correct. 1217 00:54:40,599 --> 00:54:42,800 - Any concerns there about that at all? 1218 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,440 I mean, about being that close to, 1219 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,280 there is a lot of research out lately 1220 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,880 that these things are becoming more of a concern 1221 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,800 than they were previously when we set these setbacks up. 1222 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,840 But I mean, is everybody fully aware of any potential? 1223 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,559 - We've met with the pastor several times. 1224 00:55:01,559 --> 00:55:05,679 He's aware of the-- - Everybody feels comfortable. 1225 00:55:05,679 --> 00:55:07,159 - And I don't think he has any issues with it. 1226 00:55:07,159 --> 00:55:08,280 - Okay, okay. 1227 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,880 Well, I didn't wanna, and that's fine. 1228 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,280 I think this is a good project. 1229 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,760 I plan on voting for it. 1230 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:13,940 But I do have a concern, 1231 00:55:13,940 --> 00:55:16,400 so I'll say something on it before we vote. 1232 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,960 But that's all I have for you. 1233 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:20,679 Thank you, sir. 1234 00:55:20,679 --> 00:55:21,679 - I have one other question that's come up. 1235 00:55:21,679 --> 00:55:22,599 Commissioner Sullivan. 1236 00:55:22,599 --> 00:55:24,079 - Thank you, Chair. 1237 00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:25,179 I just wanna let you know, 1238 00:55:25,179 --> 00:55:27,280 I find it somewhat refreshing 1239 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,119 that you're not trying to put every square inch 1240 00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:34,559 under concrete, trying to squeeze everything you can out of 1241 00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:34,659 it 1242 00:55:34,659 --> 00:55:36,599 to build another building or another house 1243 00:55:36,599 --> 00:55:38,440 or another whatever. 1244 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,480 And so I appreciate the fact that y'all wanna have 1245 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,639 a nice big open area for your church. 1246 00:55:44,639 --> 00:55:46,500 I think it's gonna add to the neighborhood. 1247 00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:47,760 So I appreciate that. 1248 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:48,800 - All right, thank you. 1249 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,760 Any other questions for the applicant? 1250 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:55,800 Okay. 1251 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:56,639 - Thank you, sir. 1252 00:55:56,639 --> 00:55:58,159 - Thank you. 1253 00:55:58,159 --> 00:56:00,199 - This is an item for individual consideration. 1254 00:56:00,199 --> 00:56:01,679 I don't have any cards for anyone 1255 00:56:01,679 --> 00:56:03,280 who wishes to speak on this item. 1256 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,960 And so with that, if there's no one else 1257 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,119 that would like to address this item, 1258 00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:10,099 we will move on to discussion or motion. 1259 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:12,480 Okay. 1260 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,840 Commissioner Begg. 1261 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,099 - Thank you, Chair. 1262 00:56:15,099 --> 00:56:16,599 This is a little out of the norm for me, 1263 00:56:16,599 --> 00:56:21,599 so I appreciate your tolerance on this. 1264 00:56:23,079 --> 00:56:26,119 This is an area, I'm probably part of that citizen group 1265 00:56:26,119 --> 00:56:29,880 that is concerned about developments close to gas wells. 1266 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,500 We've got setbacks established and that's fine. 1267 00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:37,639 The city is aware of the problems involved. 1268 00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:38,800 I think we've addressed them okay. 1269 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,719 And your development, it's a good development. 1270 00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,239 I'm glad to see that land filled over there. 1271 00:56:45,099 --> 00:56:47,920 The ADP that's been offered here 1272 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,599 appears to fall within the realm of our development code 1273 00:56:50,599 --> 00:56:53,440 that allows this and this technically, 1274 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:54,920 there's no reason for me to oppose it 1275 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,079 and I don't plan on doing it. 1276 00:56:57,079 --> 00:56:59,699 But I am gonna say a few comments. 1277 00:56:59,699 --> 00:57:02,280 I'm a little concerned about these kind of developments 1278 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,840 because they are close to gas wells. 1279 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,280 So if you'll bear with me on this, 1280 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,679 I'll get through this as quickly as I can. 1281 00:57:07,679 --> 00:57:11,760 The decision to build next to an existing gas well 1282 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,559 to the east of your property runs the risk 1283 00:57:13,559 --> 00:57:15,079 of creating health and safety issues 1284 00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:16,619 for the church's congregation. 1285 00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:20,519 Though this development falls within the setback guidelines 1286 00:57:20,519 --> 00:57:23,760 allowed by the city, it still remains close enough over 1287 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:24,360 time 1288 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:25,940 to generate health issues for everyone 1289 00:57:25,940 --> 00:57:27,599 who frequents this area. 1290 00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:29,679 The setback limits that were established 1291 00:57:29,679 --> 00:57:32,760 just a few short years ago are already being shown 1292 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,840 insufficient to prevent greater lung and cancer diseases. 1293 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,400 This however is an issue that hopefully one day soon 1294 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:39,960 will be addressed by local authorities 1295 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,840 and including our city council. 1296 00:57:43,079 --> 00:57:46,000 A recent cumulative study from the Colorado School 1297 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,199 of Public Health, Boulder County Public Health 1298 00:57:48,199 --> 00:57:50,199 and Colorado University at Boulder 1299 00:57:50,199 --> 00:57:53,320 where they have a lot of gas wells, concluded the following 1300 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:53,400 . 1301 00:57:54,679 --> 00:57:57,599 We found that air pollutant concentrations increased 1302 00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:00,639 with proximity to an oil and gas facility 1303 00:58:00,639 --> 00:58:02,659 as did health risk. 1304 00:58:02,659 --> 00:58:06,920 Acute hazard indices for neurological, hematological 1305 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,840 and developmental health effects indicate 1306 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,320 that populations living within 500 feet 1307 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,639 of oil and gas facilities could experience 1308 00:58:14,639 --> 00:58:17,159 these health effects from inhalation exposure 1309 00:58:17,159 --> 00:58:19,039 to benzene and alkanes. 1310 00:58:19,039 --> 00:58:21,599 The potential for contracting leukemia, 1311 00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:24,440 endocrine disruptions, asthma, preterm birth 1312 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,239 and fetal death is significantly enhanced. 1313 00:58:27,239 --> 00:58:29,679 The study also found that cancer risks were eight times 1314 00:58:29,679 --> 00:58:30,599 higher 1315 00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:33,679 than the EPA's upper level threshold, 1316 00:58:33,679 --> 00:58:37,239 risk threshold at these close proximities. 1317 00:58:37,239 --> 00:58:39,519 Now whether anyone associated with this church 1318 00:58:39,519 --> 00:58:43,159 actually encouraging these ill health conditions over time 1319 00:58:43,159 --> 00:58:44,679 is not absolute. 1320 00:58:44,679 --> 00:58:48,079 But as a public servant, as a part of this commission 1321 00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:51,119 who is concerned about the welfare of all of its citizens, 1322 00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:54,739 I would just feel remiss that if I didn't share this 1323 00:58:54,739 --> 00:58:55,760 for the public record. 1324 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,360 So I just wanted to be out there. 1325 00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,159 In the words of an old adage, 1326 00:58:59,159 --> 00:59:01,000 to be forewarned is to be forewarned. 1327 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,079 So having said that, I feel less guilty 1328 00:59:03,079 --> 00:59:04,400 about voting for now anyway. 1329 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,139 So thank you, Chair. 1330 00:59:06,139 --> 00:59:06,980 - Okay. 1331 00:59:08,519 --> 00:59:09,780 Any other discussion? 1332 00:59:12,719 --> 00:59:14,719 Okay, that chair would entertain a motion. 1333 00:59:17,079 --> 00:59:18,320 Commissioner Sanchez. 1334 00:59:19,559 --> 00:59:23,159 - I make a motion to accept item A, 1335 00:59:23,159 --> 00:59:27,599 which is ADP 18-001. 1336 00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:28,619 - Move for approval. 1337 00:59:28,619 --> 00:59:29,599 - Move for approval, yes. 1338 00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:32,699 - Okay, we have a motion for approval. 1339 00:59:32,699 --> 00:59:33,880 Commissioner Beck. 1340 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,480 - And with my reluctance as stated, 1341 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:36,599 I'll second that motion. 1342 00:59:36,599 --> 00:59:39,159 - Okay, we have a first and a second for approval. 1343 00:59:39,159 --> 00:59:41,039 Any further discussion on this item? 1344 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,639 Seeing none, I'll call for a vote on the board. 1345 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,099 (clears throat) 1346 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,639 Motion carries five to zero. 1347 00:59:56,599 --> 00:59:58,860 That will move us to our public hearing section 1348 00:59:58,860 --> 00:59:59,699 this evening. 1349 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,619 This time I'm gonna open the public hearing 1350 01:00:02,619 --> 01:00:06,760 for FR 17-0007. 1351 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,739 We'll call on Haley for presentation of this item. 1352 01:00:09,739 --> 01:00:11,039 Good luck on your project. 1353 01:00:17,079 --> 01:00:19,739 (clicks tongue) 1354 01:00:31,719 --> 01:00:32,559 All right. 1355 01:00:36,079 --> 01:00:39,960 So this request is for approval of a final replat 1356 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,699 of the 510 Villas project. 1357 01:00:42,699 --> 01:00:45,039 The replat includes two lots, 1358 01:00:45,039 --> 01:00:48,039 total of approximately 10.5 acres. 1359 01:00:48,039 --> 01:00:50,159 The property is located along Fort Worth Drive, 1360 01:00:50,159 --> 01:00:52,920 approximately 1,000 feet south of Collins Street. 1361 01:00:54,199 --> 01:00:55,519 As I mentioned, it's two lots, 1362 01:00:55,519 --> 01:00:58,079 so the lot line dividing lot one and two 1363 01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:00,500 is approximately here in the middle of the property. 1364 01:01:00,500 --> 01:01:03,579 Lot one is intended for a mixed use development, 1365 01:01:03,579 --> 01:01:05,679 including multifamily and commercial development 1366 01:01:05,679 --> 01:01:07,500 along Fort Worth Drive. 1367 01:01:07,500 --> 01:01:09,800 Lot two, there are no immediate plans for development 1368 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,239 at this time, to my knowledge. 1369 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:16,039 The replat is of two lots and some unplatted property, 1370 01:01:16,039 --> 01:01:19,440 so this northern portion of lot one 1371 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,199 was previously unplatted, approximately two acres. 1372 01:01:23,079 --> 01:01:25,440 The original lot one within the paint addition 1373 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,239 was this area that outlined here, 1374 01:01:28,239 --> 01:01:30,159 and then the back portion of the property 1375 01:01:30,159 --> 01:01:32,239 and the southern piece was the original lot two 1376 01:01:32,239 --> 01:01:33,360 of the paint addition. 1377 01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:37,760 The property is zoned Downtown Commercial General. 1378 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,519 I'd be happy to answer any other questions 1379 01:01:39,519 --> 01:01:40,719 you have about the plot. 1380 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,159 - Okay, see no questions. 1381 01:01:46,159 --> 01:01:47,000 Thank you, Havie. 1382 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:47,840 - Thank you. 1383 01:01:49,199 --> 01:01:50,159 - Is the applicant here? 1384 01:01:50,159 --> 01:01:51,880 Would they like to speak on this item? 1385 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:52,719 Okay. 1386 01:01:54,119 --> 01:01:55,719 Please give us your name and address, 1387 01:01:55,719 --> 01:01:56,559 and then before you leave, 1388 01:01:56,559 --> 01:01:58,719 if you'll fill out one of our cards for us. 1389 01:01:58,719 --> 01:01:59,800 Let's see, we'd appreciate it. 1390 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:00,800 - Yes, sir. 1391 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,360 My name is Matt Kane with Kane Click Engineering, 1392 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:08,000 325 North St. Paul, Suite 2850, Dallas, Texas. 1393 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,840 We work with staff on coming together 1394 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,000 with this plot application, 1395 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,800 and we're working on the site plan. 1396 01:02:13,679 --> 01:02:15,000 There's no conditions in this. 1397 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,400 We've been, staff's been very helpful 1398 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,239 in getting us to where we are at this point. 1399 01:02:19,239 --> 01:02:21,199 If you guys have any questions, we're here to answer them. 1400 01:02:21,199 --> 01:02:22,599 Anything you guys might have. 1401 01:02:22,599 --> 01:02:23,880 - Great. 1402 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:25,480 Any questions for the applicant? 1403 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:28,800 Thank you, sir. 1404 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,239 Again, this is a public hearing. 1405 01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:31,880 Anyone who would like to speak on this item, 1406 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,480 please come forward at this time. 1407 01:02:37,199 --> 01:02:38,599 Anyone to speak on this item? 1408 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,400 Seeing none, we'll close the public hearing 1409 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,800 and open the floor for discussion or a motion. 1410 01:02:47,239 --> 01:02:48,159 Commissioner Ellis. 1411 01:02:48,159 --> 01:02:49,000 - Thank you, Chair. 1412 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,920 I move approval of FR 17. 1413 01:02:52,239 --> 01:02:53,480 - Commissioner Sanchez. 1414 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:54,320 - I second it. 1415 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:55,139 - Okay. 1416 01:02:55,139 --> 01:02:56,800 We have a first and a second for approval. 1417 01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,239 Any further discussion? 1418 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,000 Seeing none, we'll call for a vote on board. 1419 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,440 Motion's gonna carry five to zero. 1420 01:03:13,159 --> 01:03:16,159 That will move us to our next item, B. 1421 01:03:16,159 --> 01:03:21,159 I'm gonna open the public hearing for Z 17-0034. 1422 01:03:21,239 --> 01:03:23,559 We'll call on Cindy Jackson for presentation. 1423 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,199 - Thank you, Chairman, Commissioners. 1424 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:45,440 Z 17-0004 is a request for approval 1425 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:50,199 of a rezoning of a 0.81 acre site 1426 01:03:50,199 --> 01:03:54,920 from RCCN to RCCD. 1427 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:59,519 The site is located on the northeast side of I-35E. 1428 01:03:59,519 --> 01:04:01,579 You can see it outlined in yellow here. 1429 01:04:01,579 --> 01:04:06,480 Approximately 627 feet southeast of Mayhill Road, 1430 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:07,639 which is located here. 1431 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,480 This shows the current zoning map 1432 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,079 with the current zoning on the site of RCCN. 1433 01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:19,760 And this shows the proposed zoning map if this is approved 1434 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,880 with the site zoning changed to RCCD. 1435 01:04:27,079 --> 01:04:30,800 The site is designated regional mixed use. 1436 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,800 Regional mixed use is a land use 1437 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:37,239 that is primarily along I-35 frontage and arterials. 1438 01:04:38,159 --> 01:04:42,159 The intent of the regional mixed use 1439 01:04:42,159 --> 01:04:45,440 is to have development that is cohesive 1440 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,159 and it has a regional draw. 1441 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,519 Types of uses that are usually in this type of district 1442 01:04:52,519 --> 01:04:57,519 are auto dealerships, hotels, 1443 01:04:58,159 --> 01:05:00,960 large regional centers like Razor Ranch, 1444 01:05:02,599 --> 01:05:04,480 multifamily, that kind of thing. 1445 01:05:05,519 --> 01:05:09,280 The types and uses of scale development, 1446 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,280 which are permitted in the requested RCC district 1447 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:16,719 do conform to the regional mixed use land use designation. 1448 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,280 The requested RCCD district would be a continuation 1449 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:23,960 of the existing RCCD. 1450 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,639 That is, as you can see on this map, 1451 01:05:25,639 --> 01:05:28,760 is located on the entire north side, 1452 01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:33,119 just about the entire north side of I-35 in this area. 1453 01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:36,880 The property next to it is RCR1 1454 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:40,639 and then the property on the south side of I-35 1455 01:05:40,639 --> 01:05:43,599 is zoned RCCN. 1456 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,039 The use is permitted in the RCC district. 1457 01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:51,039 They are consistent with the uses that exist in the area. 1458 01:05:51,039 --> 01:05:56,039 The applicant plans to use this site for an auto dealership 1459 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:01,159 and there are several auto dealerships in this area. 1460 01:06:04,119 --> 01:06:08,750 The site takes access from the I-35 service road right here 1461 01:06:08,750 --> 01:06:09,119 , 1462 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,360 which is designated freeway. 1463 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:16,400 And then the adjacent Mayhill Road 1464 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,119 is designated as a primary arterial. 1465 01:06:19,119 --> 01:06:21,800 There is water and sewer already available at the site. 1466 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,320 The site is developed with a gas station. 1467 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,960 That gas station has been vacant for several years 1468 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,920 and the tanks have been pulled out. 1469 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,480 So it does have water and sewer out to site. 1470 01:06:35,519 --> 01:06:38,480 Six notices were sent out within 200 feet 1471 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:43,480 via certified mail and 14 notices were sent out 1472 01:06:44,119 --> 01:06:46,739 via regular mail within 500 feet of the property 1473 01:06:46,739 --> 01:06:50,400 and we have received no response to either of those notices 1474 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:50,639 . 1475 01:06:51,519 --> 01:06:53,119 A sign was also posted 1476 01:06:53,119 --> 01:06:55,360 and we did have a legal notice in the paper. 1477 01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,880 Staff recommends approval of this request. 1478 01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:02,719 The RCCD district is consistent with the goals 1479 01:07:02,719 --> 01:07:05,440 and objectives of the Denton Plan 2030 1480 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,679 and it is also compatible with the surrounding property 1481 01:07:08,679 --> 01:07:10,440 in terms of permitted uses. 1482 01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,199 That concludes my presentation 1483 01:07:12,199 --> 01:07:15,639 and the applicant is present if you have any questions. 1484 01:07:15,639 --> 01:07:17,000 - Any questions for Cindy? 1485 01:07:19,239 --> 01:07:20,360 Okay, thank you. 1486 01:07:22,039 --> 01:07:23,320 If the applicant's here, 1487 01:07:24,199 --> 01:07:25,360 you're more than welcome to come down 1488 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,159 and speak on your project if you'd like 1489 01:07:27,159 --> 01:07:29,019 and if not, you're not required to. 1490 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:32,199 - We are here. 1491 01:07:32,199 --> 01:07:34,880 - Okay, you're welcome to address us if you'd like 1492 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,719 and if you don't want to, you're not required to. 1493 01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:43,719 - We got the tenant, I'm the business advisor. 1494 01:07:43,719 --> 01:07:45,320 - Okay, just give us your-- 1495 01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,599 - The tenant, David Zygo. 1496 01:07:47,599 --> 01:07:49,599 - If you'll give us your name and your address, 1497 01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:51,840 we'll have one speaker at a time. 1498 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,280 - Okay, I'm David Zygo. 1499 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:54,639 I help put together the applicant. 1500 01:07:54,639 --> 01:07:56,159 The city's been very helpful, 1501 01:07:56,159 --> 01:07:58,239 the folks have been very, very helpful 1502 01:07:58,239 --> 01:08:02,559 at getting this done and what I look forward to seeing 1503 01:08:02,559 --> 01:08:04,559 due to you is taking a vacant property 1504 01:08:04,559 --> 01:08:05,400 and improving it. 1505 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,119 The building's gonna be improved 1506 01:08:07,119 --> 01:08:10,360 and the whole lot's gonna be improved 1507 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,559 and it's gonna bring business to the area. 1508 01:08:12,559 --> 01:08:14,039 - Great. - Okay. 1509 01:08:14,039 --> 01:08:14,880 - Thank you. 1510 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,000 If you'll fill out a card for us before you go, 1511 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:17,479 we'd appreciate it. 1512 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,079 - Good afternoon, my name is Carlos Sandoval. 1513 01:08:19,079 --> 01:08:22,239 My address is 114, Staline Lane, Hickory Creek, 1514 01:08:22,239 --> 01:08:24,000 Texas 75, 065. 1515 01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,039 And I'm the owner of Lake City Investment. 1516 01:08:27,039 --> 01:08:28,920 I'm trying to help on this lot right here. 1517 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:30,399 You know, you guys allowed me. 1518 01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:33,159 And David Zygo, he'd be helping with the whole development 1519 01:08:33,159 --> 01:08:34,800 and I appreciate the city too. 1520 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,479 - Okay, thank you very much. 1521 01:08:38,199 --> 01:08:40,279 Commissioner Beck, you have a question? 1522 01:08:40,279 --> 01:08:41,680 - Yes, I do. 1523 01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:42,520 Thank you, too. 1524 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,199 - Oh, yes. - Oh, I'm sorry. 1525 01:08:44,199 --> 01:08:46,279 - One question for you, yes. 1526 01:08:46,279 --> 01:08:47,720 Thank you for sharing that with us. 1527 01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,760 I think this is, I'm glad to see this site 1528 01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:51,479 being filled up too. 1529 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,720 Is this a used car lot or new car sales? 1530 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,000 - Used car lot. - Used car lot, okay. 1531 01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,079 - All right, that's all I wanted. 1532 01:08:58,079 --> 01:08:59,560 Thank you. - Thank you. 1533 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:00,399 Thank you. 1534 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,439 - Hello, my name is Andy Fringe. 1535 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:08,279 I'm the owner of the property, Melissa Investments LLC. 1536 01:09:08,279 --> 01:09:12,039 And it needs substantial improvement. 1537 01:09:12,039 --> 01:09:14,079 I'm working with these gentlemen to do it 1538 01:09:14,079 --> 01:09:15,680 and they've done a lot of cleanup. 1539 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:20,680 I did have the gasoline tanks removed several years ago. 1540 01:09:21,399 --> 01:09:24,359 Got a clean bill of help from the state. 1541 01:09:26,239 --> 01:09:30,239 Right next to the property is Hyundai dealer 1542 01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:35,119 and they have used cars there for sale. 1543 01:09:35,119 --> 01:09:37,659 This is used car lot, but they have their used cars for 1544 01:09:37,659 --> 01:09:38,079 sale. 1545 01:09:38,079 --> 01:09:40,760 Actually parking some on my property right now. 1546 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,520 - Okay, do you have one question for you? 1547 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,479 Commissioner Beck, is that still or is that just leftover? 1548 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,159 Leftover, okay, no question. 1549 01:09:47,159 --> 01:09:48,000 Thank you. 1550 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:48,819 If you'd fill out a card for us 1551 01:09:48,819 --> 01:09:49,659 before you leave that seat, we'd appreciate it. 1552 01:09:49,659 --> 01:09:50,840 - I will, thank you. 1553 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,279 - Thank you, sir, for coming out. 1554 01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:54,880 This is a public hearing. 1555 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,199 Anyone who would like to come forward 1556 01:09:56,199 --> 01:09:59,279 and speak on this item at this time, please do so. 1557 01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,680 Anyone else want to speak on this item? 1558 01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,319 Seeing none, we'll close the public hearing 1559 01:10:08,319 --> 01:10:10,779 and open the floor for discussion or a motion. 1560 01:10:13,039 --> 01:10:14,359 Commissioner Beck. 1561 01:10:14,359 --> 01:10:15,199 - Thank you, Chair. 1562 01:10:15,199 --> 01:10:18,159 I move to approve Z170034. 1563 01:10:18,159 --> 01:10:19,720 - Okay, Commissioner Ellis. 1564 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:20,680 - Thank you, Chair, second. 1565 01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,479 - Okay, I have a first and a second for approval. 1566 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:24,840 Any further discussion? 1567 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,359 Seeing none, we'll call for a vote on the board. 1568 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,000 Motion is gonna carry five, zero. 1569 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,399 Congratulations and good luck with your project. 1570 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:41,600 You're welcome. 1571 01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,380 That will move us to our final agenda item tonight, 1572 01:10:46,380 --> 01:10:48,380 which is gonna be our project matrix. 1573 01:10:51,399 --> 01:10:53,159 Commissioner Ellis. 1574 01:10:53,159 --> 01:10:54,079 - Thank you, Chair. 1575 01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,770 I'm gonna go ahead and bring up what I brought up last time 1576 01:10:59,770 --> 01:11:00,039 . 1577 01:11:00,039 --> 01:11:03,600 Do we have an update on the sign enforcement process? 1578 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,279 Or can I request that we get one? 1579 01:11:06,279 --> 01:11:07,680 - I can provide that to you. 1580 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,079 I'll have it for the next meeting. 1581 01:11:10,079 --> 01:11:11,279 - Okay, I'd appreciate that, thanks. 1582 01:11:11,279 --> 01:11:12,119 - Not a problem. 1583 01:11:15,359 --> 01:11:16,199 - Anybody else? 1584 01:11:18,119 --> 01:11:19,319 Commissioner Sanchez. 1585 01:11:19,319 --> 01:11:20,979 - I'd like to have two discussions. 1586 01:11:20,979 --> 01:11:23,479 One of them, as we discussed in our earlier meeting 1587 01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:28,479 about the ESA and have staff kind of talk to us 1588 01:11:29,239 --> 01:11:32,239 a little bit about the issue that I had brought up. 1589 01:11:32,239 --> 01:11:37,039 And also like to discuss a little bit on roundabouts 1590 01:11:37,039 --> 01:11:39,680 on our mobility plan, talk a little bit about that. 1591 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,479 Those are the two issues I think are. 1592 01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,300 - Okay, I'll discuss with Debra to provide 1593 01:11:47,300 --> 01:11:49,479 sort of an outline of the issues that were brought up 1594 01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,119 in the work session with respect to that application. 1595 01:11:52,119 --> 01:11:53,760 And then also give sort of an overall view 1596 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:58,199 of how it's monitored and what happens if it is deterior 1597 01:11:58,199 --> 01:11:58,560 ated. 1598 01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:02,479 With respect to the roundabouts, I'll reach out to Pre-Tim. 1599 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,960 I know he and I have spoke about him coming in 1600 01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,880 and just giving an overall overview 1601 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:08,119 along with the mobility plan 1602 01:12:08,119 --> 01:12:09,520 and kind of how it all fits together 1603 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,239 along with the impact fees. 1604 01:12:11,239 --> 01:12:14,439 And once we do the traffic analysis, 1605 01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,800 what I wanted him also to do is to talk about 1606 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:18,399 the traffic model that we do have 1607 01:12:18,399 --> 01:12:20,079 and the components of that 1608 01:12:20,079 --> 01:12:22,640 and how we're now sort of gathering data. 1609 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,840 With that, I'll have him include roundabouts. 1610 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:30,319 But I will provide a response back as far as a date. 1611 01:12:30,319 --> 01:12:32,020 I know he's been trying to ramp up 1612 01:12:32,020 --> 01:12:33,060 with some additional staff, 1613 01:12:33,060 --> 01:12:35,359 so his time is somewhat limited. 1614 01:12:35,359 --> 01:12:37,680 But I will check with him again 1615 01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,119 and get back to you by the next meeting 1616 01:12:39,119 --> 01:12:43,399 with hopefully a date where he'll be at a work session. 1617 01:12:43,399 --> 01:12:44,220 - Okay. 1618 01:12:49,399 --> 01:12:51,079 Commissioner Beck. 1619 01:12:51,079 --> 01:12:51,920 - Thank you, Chair. 1620 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:53,800 Just, this is more thinking out loud 1621 01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,680 and kind of in conjunction with the request 1622 01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,680 to have Deborah Behr come over 1623 01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:01,199 and give us kind of a rating on that ESA off Brinker Road. 1624 01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:03,680 Would that be something that maybe 1625 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,920 when we're dealing with a project, a development, 1626 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:10,640 that's gonna have Upland Habit had on it or ESA, 1627 01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,439 if we don't have a current rating on it, 1628 01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,640 that maybe Deborah can be at these meetings to, 1629 01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,640 like in this case, we could have kind of posed 1630 01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,840 that question to her right then and pop it to her. 1631 01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,319 I know she's busy and I don't wanna lay extra work on her, 1632 01:13:23,319 --> 01:13:25,880 but would that be a possibility 1633 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,960 that if a similar situation like this arises, 1634 01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,260 that she'd be on hand? 1635 01:13:31,359 --> 01:13:32,399 - I can discuss it with her, 1636 01:13:32,399 --> 01:13:35,239 but I also would wanna talk with Victor a little bit, 1637 01:13:35,239 --> 01:13:38,260 'cause I know we have specific criteria 1638 01:13:38,260 --> 01:13:41,760 in which to sort of approve a project. 1639 01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:42,760 If that's not one of them, 1640 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,880 I would be a little just cautious into 1641 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,560 bringing something else that has a whole separate, 1642 01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,479 the alternate ESA has a whole separate process, 1643 01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,960 but we could certainly look into 1644 01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:58,319 generalities with respect to it. 1645 01:13:58,319 --> 01:14:00,359 I don't know if Victor has anything else to add. 1646 01:14:00,359 --> 01:14:02,479 - Just a thought I thought I'd throw out there. 1647 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:03,319 Thank you. 1648 01:14:03,319 --> 01:14:05,100 - No, it's definitely something we can talk about 1649 01:14:05,100 --> 01:14:09,920 or maybe even have her present for questions maybe, 1650 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,560 but we'll work on it. 1651 01:14:13,119 --> 01:14:13,960 - Okay. 1652 01:14:16,039 --> 01:14:17,479 Anything else for our matrix? 1653 01:14:19,079 --> 01:14:20,199 Okay. 1654 01:14:20,199 --> 01:14:24,279 Seeing none, I will close our meeting this evening at 7.06. 1655 01:14:24,279 --> 01:14:26,039 Thank you everyone for coming out.