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mission meeting for April 11th 2018. This meeting has been

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duly posted and we do

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have a quorum present and I will open our work session at

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five o'clock. We'll go

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into clarification of agenda items. So does anybody have

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any comments or changes

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on the minutes?

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Okay, as is. How about on the consent agenda?

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Commissioner Ellis. Thank you, Chair. It had to do with the

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Texas oncology. That's

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Haley's. Thanks Haley. You know it's really just my brain.

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I could not wrap myself

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around this vehicle generation table that was up there. Can

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you walk me

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through that at all as how those numbers were? Those are

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just standard numbers

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based on trip generation for a medical facility of this

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type. Okay, so not specific to this.

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No, it's very general just to determine what their

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estimated trip

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generation would be. It's standard data that's requested

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with a preliminary

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plat. In this case they just put it on the plat rather than

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submitting it as a

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separate document. Understood. Thank you because I haven't

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seen it on top there

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before. Thank you. Clarification, this would be specific to

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this site though,

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correct? In that it's you know for that size of a medical

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facility, yeah, but

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they're just estimates based on the ITE manuals. But

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nothing that was done

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specifically in this area for this site? It's not like a

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full TIA. No, this is

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just looking at a facility of this type. Some kind of

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general data? Yeah, general data from the ITE manuals.

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Okay. Just to help, trying to help. It's based on the site

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though.

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Specifically it's using the traffic criteria manual for a

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site this size to

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estimate what the traffic generation will be off of this in

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lieu of doing,

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because of the size of it, in lieu of doing an actual TIA.

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So it's kind of a

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staff level engineering type calculation that's done

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because of the size it's not

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so large and it doesn't have the trips to justify TIA like

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we've talked about.

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But they are having to do an actual traffic calculation for

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this particular

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site by using the criteria manual because it's not big

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enough to trigger

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TIA. So your question, I was just trying to be helpful.

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Yeah. I thought what you

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were asking is are those numbers in regards to the site?

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Right. Yes, they are.

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They're just the way it's calculated is not a true TIA.

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Understood. That does help.

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Thank you very much. Any other questions on this item or on

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the consent

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agenda? Okay. Thank you, Hayden.

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Then we'll move us to items for individual consideration. I

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'll call on

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Haley for presentation of 4A.

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All right. This item is an alternative development plan

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request for a tractor

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dealership and repair facility. So the request is for

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approval of an ADP that

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would deviate from these two specific sections of the code,

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perimeter fencing

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and screening requirements and then the parking lot

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screening requirements

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within subchapter 13. So the site itself is the northern

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roughly 5.4 acres of

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this tract outlined in yellow. We've seen a preliminary

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plat for this site

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previously. It's being split into two lots and the northern

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lot will be

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developed as a tractor dealership. As you can see here it's

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located on the west

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side of I-35. We have Windsor here across and then it's

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just north of Schuyler

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Drive. And this is located within a regional center

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commercial downtown

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zoning district. To walk you through specifically what's

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involved in this

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request I want to first look at the overall site plan. So

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you can see here

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they have about a 20,000 square foot building proposed in

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the middle of the

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site. The area here and here would be display. So this

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would be kind of public

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display like you'd see at a car lot and then this would be

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behind a fence. Just

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other display area for them. The blue areas are where

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customer and employee

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parking would be and the green is a detention pond that

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they're proposing at

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this time. So what we have on the site is 71% lot coverage

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and 29% landscaping

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total and a total of 63 parking spaces. And I did mention

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briefly in your backup

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but I wanted to bring it up here today. There is some

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discussion with the city

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of Windsor Drive possibly extending so I wanted to point

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out that this detention

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pond and some of the parking spaces may be relocated before

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the building permit

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for this site but it wouldn't alter any of the items that

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they've requested this

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alternative plan for. Commissioner Becker. Thank you Chair.

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Okay can you illustrate

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where Windsor might come no go back to the other one you

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had there. Where would

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Windsor come through? It would be on lot two of the okay if

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you remember the

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preliminary plat. Right. So lot two being roughly across

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here. Right. The intent

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would be for someday for Windsor to cross. So it wouldn't

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come straight

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across then? It would probably angle across and hopefully

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come somewhere in

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lot two but just in them dedicating that right-of-way if

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they if they do so it

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could shift their boundary line for lot two a little

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further north and relocate

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some of the parking on this side. Okay mentioned that

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should the Windsor come

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through it'd be located on the south end of the Soate

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property. He said if this

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occurs the parking and detention fill is shown on the site

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plan may change as

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you pointed out but none of the proposed deviations really

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requested with this ADP

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would be affected so the eight foot chain length fence

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wouldn't be the

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material and the landscaping all that would remain the same

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the location may

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change may change okay just to follow the boundaries of

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wherever the parking lot.

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Gotcha. Thanks. So again that they do have three specific

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standards they're

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requesting to deviate from. Our code does not allow chain

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link as a permitted

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fence material and they are as I mentioned requesting an

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eight foot tall

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chain link fence. It would be vinyl coated to tinted black

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so it would be

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non-reflective and that would be along the rear and side

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yards of the property.

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The code also specifies that fences forward of the front

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building line

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shouldn't be over three and a half feet tall. For security

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purposes they're

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requesting a total of a six foot tall wrought iron fence

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along the front of

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the property and then the code requires and if you have

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parking in front of a

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building a 15 foot wide landscaped area that includes a

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berm a large tree for

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every 40 linear feet and then either a hedgerow continuous

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wall or zero

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escaping also in that area to screen the parking because

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they want that display

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area right on I-35 for visibility purposes they were

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requesting to not

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provide that screening and instead they've proposed some

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alternative

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locations that we'll look at. So to look at the fencing the

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area in yellow or

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orange on the map is where the chain link fence is proposed

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right now so that

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would be again eight feet tall black vinyl coated chain

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link they are

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proposing to plant some trees along it to help further

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screen that side yard

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fencing. The red area would be the wrought iron fence

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location so that's

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six foot tall wrought iron fence and there would be gates

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here and here across

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the access drives to allow circulation through the site and

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they've proposed some alternatives for the landscaping so

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the darker green here

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and here on the site are trees that they're proposing to

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plant along that

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chain link fence so that the chain link isn't as visible

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from the right-of-way

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if you're driving down the frontage road and then in the

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lighter green these are

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the alternative locations so they've proposed all of the

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required number of

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trees and shrubs just in alternative sites rather than

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putting it directly

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here in front of their display yard as the code would

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require they're proposing

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clustering it around the entrances to the site and then

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four other trees that

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they couldn't fit in they've proposed to move to the back

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of the site. So just

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some of the considerations that staff looked at with this

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request the intent

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for our fencing requirements is to ensure you know visually

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attractive high

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quality materials also to ensure the visibility of

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buildings from the right

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of way being the intent for lower fencing in the front yard

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and then with

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our parking requirements the intent there being to kind of

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mute those visual

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effects of driving by and seeing just rows of parking in

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front of a building

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you know to ensure that there's not glare onto the roadways

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and that it's a

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visually attractive look along the street. So the code

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provides us very

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specific criteria for an ADP the first being preservation

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of existing

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neighborhoods it's not anticipated that this would have any

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negative effect on

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the surrounding area if you're familiar with the area there

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's RV dealerships

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directly north of there and then various other commercial

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uses along the frontage

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road as is typical. So this is consistent with the existing

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development pattern in

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the area. In terms of assuring quality development the

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request doesn't

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necessarily lower the design standards they're just

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proposing alternatives that

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aren't allowed in our code that would help them enhance the

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security and the

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visibility of the products on site. One of the other

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criteria is focusing new

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development to activity centers this is compatible with

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that goal in terms of

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if this is typical highway development it is a regional

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scale customer base

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that they have so it fits with the zoning requirements for

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the area.

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Infrastructure is in place for this development there's no

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concerns there

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that staff identified and then in terms of resulting in a

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high quality

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development that meets the intent of those standards we

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discussed what

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they're proposing is higher quality the fencing along the

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frontage is non-opaque

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so it won't necessarily reduce the visibility of the site

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from the right of

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way and they are proposing to screen the chain link fence

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by vinyl coating it and

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providing landscaping in front of it. And then in terms of

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the parking lot

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screening as I mentioned they have all of the required

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plantings they actually

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are providing eight additional street trees beyond what is

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required to greatly

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enhance those main entry points to the site but not you

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know visually detract

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from the display area for their equipment. So with all that

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being said

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staff is recommending approval of their request we found

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that it meet these

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established standards in the DDC and I can try to answer

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any questions about

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the site. Commissioner Smith. Thank You Chair. The further

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down along 35 Haley

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like James Wood and then across on the east side with

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Classic and one other used

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car lot is it still is it RCCD over there as well?

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35 East? Yeah 35 East but further south of Mayhill. I

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believe most of that is RCCD

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there is some PD zoning in that area but most of those are

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RCCD. So what makes

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I mean the what makes it to where if we approve this we

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wouldn't see like James

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Wood or some other because it seems like they're requesting

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the six foot

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wrought iron fence in the front purely for security

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purposes. They're a tractor

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and repair shop and get it I mean how but how much

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difference are they in

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comparison to James Wood or to Classic or some of those

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other car dealerships

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who would have the same amount of security concerns what

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would what would

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preclude them from coming along and asking for the exact

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same type of change

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within the change and be able to build a new fence as well

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be able for security

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purposes and we didn't have a just six six foot wrought

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iron fences all up and down

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35. Certainly and in discussing it with the applicant the

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concern was with the

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type of equipment that the typical low fencing you see at

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car lots in the front

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wouldn't necessarily be sufficient and they they found that

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some of the

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neighbors in this area have taller fences that predate our

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current code so

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they just wanted to be consistent with what the neighbors

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have and ensure that

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extra level of security based on the large equipment that

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they're dealing

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with and why why is the current zoning only three and a

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half is just for a

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visibility issues or what was the that is not based on

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zoning the fence

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requirement is that applies citywide unless you are an

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industrial or an

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agricultural use so if this were an industrial site they

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would be allowed to

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have a six or eight foot fence in the front yard but got it

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for commercial

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uses it's not allowed and then the the screening the the it

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's like a fabric

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correct like what you'd see on construction sites as well

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the screen

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the screening within the chain link no I believe it's

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actual vinyl coating on

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the metal chain link itself okay all right so it's not it's

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not the screen

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like you see on construction sites where it's got it my I

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was gonna ask about

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maintenance on that stuff gets raggedy after a while but

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yeah now I understand

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thank you that's all I have commissioner Rizzo thank you

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chair the ADP would apply

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to both lots correct the the ADP is specific to the site

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plan for this

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Kubota dealership so just the five point eight acres they

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have no plans at this

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point for what would go on lot two but if lot two one of

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the same conditions

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they would have to come back and get an ADP yes it is

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specific to the the Kubota

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sites that we're looking at tonight and maybe we can talk

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about this in the

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other room but I'm with the Commissioner Smith on this I

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don't I'm trying to

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understand why they need a six foot fence maybe it's my

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ignorant ignorance

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and the tractor business but I think those equipments are

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enclosed just like

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a car would be so I don't I'm not understanding why they

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need a six foot

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fence but no car dealership has ever asked for that and I

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don't I don't know

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I'd be interested if the applicants here to understand

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their rationale because

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it doesn't seem like a six foot rod iron fence is necessary

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and the

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applicant will be here this evening at the regular session

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to discuss this

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further my understanding from them as I said it's because

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they they're going to

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have this large display area in the front with large tract

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ors rather than

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smaller cars that couldn't necessarily cross a lower fence

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I guess the concern

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would be tractors and heavy equipment may be able to do

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that so they were they

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felt that the six foot height and the wrought iron material

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was necessary for

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security but I believe they could speak more to the

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specifics on that okay I

368
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have a more general question rather than specific in the D

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DC update that we have

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coming which and maybe I have a different opinion these

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seem to be

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fairly minor to me are these things that possibly with the

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DDC update be handled

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administratively rather than these are still going to be

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required as ADPs

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because of this some of the small changes trying to think

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back to some of

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the specifics I think some of the fencing requirements we

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're trying to

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address to allow a little more flexibility there for

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certain uses and

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then in terms of landscaping I don't think we quite have

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that nailed down yet

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but the intent is for it to be more administrative approval

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for you know

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that were actually the way that the current the current

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draft is written

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there would not be an ADP process anymore there would be

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some flexibility

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with with staff having some some some minor the ability to

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do some minor

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adjustments like 10% I think it is on certain standards

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fence I just don't

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recall off the top my head regarding this the height in the

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front

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anybody else thank you having that will move us to 4b and I

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have a conflict of

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interest on 4b I was in the partnership that sold this

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property to this current

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owner and so even though it's been a number of years ago I

401
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'm going to recuse

402
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myself just to make sure there's no appearance of conflict

403
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of interest a

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moment turn the meeting over to Commissioner Roselle at

405
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this time thank

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you chair and I believe Haley is presenting this item as

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well item 4b

408
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yes so this item is a site plan for a medical office

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building within the razor

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ranch overlay district so the request is from prime Denton

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properties for

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approval of a site plan to allow a medical office building

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on lot one block

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four which is part of the razor ranch south edition to look

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at the site more

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specifically it's outlined here in red on this this aerial

417
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to give you a

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reference as to where this is in relation to the convention

419
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center the

420
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hospital next door so it's on the I-35 frontage road

421
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between Scripture and Pan

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handle it's just over four acres total in terms of the

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razor ranch overlay it's

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on the very southern portion within the south mixed use

425
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district so in 2011 they

426
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adopted very specific standards for this lot you've heard

427
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me mention before that

428
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the south mixed use district we don't have a lot of those

429
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standards adopted in

430
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the overlay yet this lot specifically had those developed

431
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in 2011 with the

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intent of developing it with a similar medical use that we

433
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're seeing tonight as

434
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with other razor site plans what was required of them was

435
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to provide a site

436
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plan a landscape plan and building elevations at this time

437
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so the criteria

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for approval for a site plan for razor is that it

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substantially complies with

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the concept and schematic plan that it provides for a

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compatible arrangement of

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buildings and land uses that wouldn't adversely affect

443
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neighboring properties

444
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that it provides for safe vehicular circulation and that it

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complies with the

446
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requirements of the overlay district so looking at their

447
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site plan you can tell

448
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they at this point they're developing phase one of what

449
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would be a larger

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development so at this time we're only looking at the

451
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southern half of the slot

452
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so the northern portion will be developed at some future

453
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time but what

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they're proposing tonight is a 22,000 square foot medical

455
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office building it

456
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would include 110 parking spaces which is what's required

457
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based on the square

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footage and the site would have direct access from

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scripture Street so no no

460
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direct tie-in to the frontage road all traffic would be

461
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routed to the site

462
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through scripture it does have a tie-in to the adjoining

463
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medical facility and

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then you can see where they've stubbed out to someday

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provide connectivity to

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the northern half of the lot and ultimately to panhandle

467
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looking at the

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site they have a total of 22% landscaping 20% was is what's

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required by

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the overlay there isn't a specific tree canopy requirement

471
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for the overall lot

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within the standards the parking lot did have a 22% tree

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canopy and 10%

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landscaping requirements so they have exceeded those as we

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can see here on the

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plan and I wanted to point out just some features you'll

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notice there there are

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no street trees directly provided along I-35 due to the

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amount of utility

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easements in that area they've relocated those in between

481
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the buildings which the

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flexibility for that is allowed for within the overlay and

483
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then they do have

484
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all of the required street trees here along scripture

485
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looking at the building

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elevations this top area is what would face internal to the

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parking lot this

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would be the side along I-35 and then we have here the two

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side elevations which

490
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you can see are kind of mirrors of each other so scripture

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and then facing north

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which would ultimately about the other building and the

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building is proposed to

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be built primarily of Texas limestone and ephis materials

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so fairly typical

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and staff is recommending approval of the site plan request

497
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we found it to be

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compatible with all the requirements of the razor range

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overlay district and I

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can stand for any questions Christian back thank you by

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chair signage

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would they be able to put signs on the back of their

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building that faces 35 and

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if so what would they look like they haven't provided sign

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plans at this time

506
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all signs are handled as separate permits at the time of

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building permit

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but they would be allowed to have wall signs the exact

509
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square footage I'm not

510
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sure off the top of my head but illuminated I'm sorry

511
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illuminated signs

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are they pliable I believe illumination is permitted okay

513
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the other thing

514
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noticing that the only entrance into this is all scripture

515
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going back to your

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traffic analysis for the Texas oncology which is just right

517
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down the road did

518
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was that taking consideration that we were also building

519
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this unit that was

520
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going to bring in the I don't believe this site was

521
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accounted for in the Texas

522
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oncology numbers that plat started long before this came

523
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along but there has

524
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been traffic studies for the overall razor ranch area that

525
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included all of

526
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razor ranch so you know all of the necessary improvements

527
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to the perimeter

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streets and accounted for okay Trish or Sullivan I think is

529
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it thanks sir chair

530
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as an add-on to a commissioner back I guess I was a similar

531
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question is that

532
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we've got a thousand thirty four vehicle trips on oncology

533
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coming on to

534
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scripture and then we have only one plate one entrance and

535
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exit from this

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location on the scripture and driving on scripture quite

537
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often for one of a

538
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reason there's two lanes on the eastbound side and one lane

539
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coming on to

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the service road which means those two sides are going to

541
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generate a thousand

542
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two thousand three thousand cars a day and they're going to

543
00:21:55,420 --> 00:21:56,279
be going on to a

544
00:21:56,279 --> 00:22:01,559
one lane street to then get onto the service road to go

545
00:22:01,559 --> 00:22:03,440
wherever they're

546
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:09,359
going to go from there has I mean is there no other I mean

547
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:09,839
what's what's

548
00:22:09,839 --> 00:22:14,650
their other plan to get all those cars out of that area for

549
00:22:14,650 --> 00:22:15,960
the time being the

550
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,930
traffic would be on scripture the ultimate goal is that

551
00:22:18,930 --> 00:22:19,920
they would have a

552
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,299
you know what like we saw on their site plan they are stub

553
00:22:22,299 --> 00:22:23,240
bing out to the north

554
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,819
so eventually this lot will have access via panhandle and

555
00:22:26,819 --> 00:22:27,920
scripture when the

556
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,420
northern portion develops at this time this site would have

557
00:22:31,420 --> 00:22:32,480
the one driveway

558
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,809
you know somewhere in this area and then they're also

559
00:22:35,809 --> 00:22:37,519
connecting to this existing

560
00:22:37,519 --> 00:22:40,039
facility here so there there would be cross connectivity

561
00:22:40,039 --> 00:22:41,880
between the sites that

562
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,759
would offer another means in and out of the parking lot if

563
00:22:44,759 --> 00:22:46,559
that were a concern

564
00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:50,369
but scripture for the time being would be the only access

565
00:22:50,369 --> 00:22:51,720
to the site until that

566
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:57,180
northern half develops thank you pressure Sanchez you

567
00:22:57,180 --> 00:22:58,519
mentioned that the

568
00:22:58,519 --> 00:23:01,630
parking parking is based on the number of the square

569
00:23:01,630 --> 00:23:03,240
footage is that for a

570
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,680
medical facility yes okay specific for mad yeah leave a

571
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,720
parking ratio I believe

572
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,279
it's a one to two hundred square feet for medical offices

573
00:23:11,279 --> 00:23:11,960
oh it's what's

574
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,599
required so they're right at that number

575
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:25,759
any other questions for Haley thank you very much

576
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:59,599
would be possible to call chair back in item 5a that public

577
00:23:59,599 --> 00:24:00,400
height that's being

578
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,420
withdrawn from staff so we won't that'll come back at a

579
00:24:03,420 --> 00:24:04,039
later time it'll be

580
00:24:04,039 --> 00:24:16,950
re-advertised the access bank project is withdrawn so that

581
00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:19,119
we reposted it'll be

582
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:24,329
completely reposted renoticed react re-advertised okay

583
00:24:24,329 --> 00:24:26,759
perfect and just to

584
00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:29,769
give you there was an issue with I think most most are

585
00:24:29,769 --> 00:24:31,000
probably aware there was

586
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,329
an issue with the signposting so as a result that item is

587
00:24:34,329 --> 00:24:35,559
being withdrawn from

588
00:24:35,559 --> 00:24:39,559
staff and we'll be requiring them to just re-notice repost

589
00:24:39,559 --> 00:24:41,279
properly in the

590
00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:44,490
interim were adjusted some administrative policies with

591
00:24:44,490 --> 00:24:44,880
respect to

592
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,089
signposting technically it's not a code requirement but it

593
00:24:48,089 --> 00:24:49,480
has been a directive

594
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:54,640
from City Council so we'll clarify a few items moving

595
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:54,640
forward

596
00:24:55,319 --> 00:24:59,509
Commissioner Ellis thank you vice-chair we don't have to do

597
00:24:59,509 --> 00:25:00,319
anything though this

598
00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:05,069
is just going to be pulled from our meeting today but we're

599
00:25:05,069 --> 00:25:05,519
pulling with

600
00:25:05,519 --> 00:25:10,230
that we can move on to agenda item 5b chair I give it back

601
00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:11,519
to you thank you

602
00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:20,920
that we will move on to 5b and ask for Cindy Jackson for

603
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,279
presentation thank you

604
00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:30,279
chairman commissioners c17 - 0 0 3 3 is a request to rezone

605
00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:33,000
0.3 acres well it's

606
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,119
not really a rezoning is to assign an initial zoning to 0.3

607
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,720
acres on to see em

608
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:45,460
see mg you can see the site is located here along old Alton

609
00:25:45,460 --> 00:25:46,680
Road just south of

610
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:54,390
Teasley current zoning is already 5x the site was recently

611
00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:55,640
annexed into the city

612
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,220
and it's currently got a holding zoning designation of

613
00:25:59,220 --> 00:26:01,480
already 5x and the

614
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:07,359
proposed zoning is CMG which is concurrent with the

615
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,519
property to the

616
00:26:09,519 --> 00:26:14,299
north I'd like to mention that this lot the subject lot and

617
00:26:14,299 --> 00:26:15,279
the property to the

618
00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:18,289
north are all one lot for some reason they were plotted

619
00:26:18,289 --> 00:26:19,480
with part in the city

620
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,759
and part in the county once the app if this is rezoned the

621
00:26:24,759 --> 00:26:25,759
applicant plans to

622
00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:29,940
get the site plan approved and construct a vehicle repair

623
00:26:29,940 --> 00:26:33,119
facility on the site

624
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,490
the site has a future land use designation of community

625
00:26:38,490 --> 00:26:40,519
mixed use the

626
00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:45,500
types and uses the types and scale of uses permitted within

627
00:26:45,500 --> 00:26:46,599
the CMG district

628
00:26:46,599 --> 00:26:49,500
conforms to the goals of the community mixed use

629
00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:52,519
designation the zoning also

630
00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:56,369
conforms to the industrial commerce area and rural areas

631
00:26:56,369 --> 00:26:57,960
that is surrounding it

632
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,490
we've got some moderate residential further up the street

633
00:27:01,490 --> 00:27:04,279
however this along

634
00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:12,000
old Alton Road is our site right here the requested CMDG

635
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,440
district would be a

636
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,559
continuation of the existing CMG district the use is

637
00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:18,119
permitted in the CMG

638
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,130
district would be consistent with the uses that are exist

639
00:27:21,130 --> 00:27:22,079
in the area today

640
00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:27,519
which I include vehicle repair which is across the street

641
00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:29,839
come over here in the

642
00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:36,279
ETJ offices to the south self storage to the east and some

643
00:27:36,279 --> 00:27:37,440
institutional uses

644
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:43,240
Geier high school as well as a there over here is a

645
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,039
electrical transformer

646
00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:53,930
site substation the site will take access from old Alton

647
00:27:53,930 --> 00:27:55,279
Road currently old

648
00:27:55,279 --> 00:28:01,690
Alton Road is designated as a future secondary arterial

649
00:28:01,690 --> 00:28:04,240
roadway Teasley is a

650
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,509
primary arterial roadway the subject site also has water

651
00:28:08,509 --> 00:28:09,839
and sewer available

652
00:28:09,839 --> 00:28:13,450
which you can see from these very thin blue and red lines

653
00:28:13,450 --> 00:28:14,960
the blue is water and

654
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:23,309
the red is sewer staff sent out notifications on March 25th

655
00:28:23,309 --> 00:28:24,839
we sent out

656
00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:30,519
five via certified mail and 11 courtesy notices so far we

657
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:32,240
have not received any

658
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,759
response to those notices a sign was posted on the site I

659
00:28:36,759 --> 00:28:37,759
did verify that

660
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:43,549
earlier today staff recommends approval of this request as

661
00:28:43,549 --> 00:28:45,680
the requested zoning

662
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,299
is consistent with the goals and objectives of the Denton

663
00:28:48,299 --> 00:28:49,559
plan 2030 and

664
00:28:49,559 --> 00:28:53,619
the CMG is compatible with the surrounded property in terms

665
00:28:53,619 --> 00:28:55,519
of permitted uses that

666
00:28:55,519 --> 00:29:00,599
concludes my presentation I'll answer any questions

667
00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:04,180
Commissioner Smith thank you chair whenever we did this we

668
00:29:04,180 --> 00:29:04,880
proved the

669
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,859
northern part of this of this plot we proved it back in

670
00:29:08,859 --> 00:29:10,400
October why wasn't it

671
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,740
included in the rezoning at that point in time is because

672
00:29:13,740 --> 00:29:14,319
they only do in the

673
00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:20,000
city okay we the annexation happened in yesterday it final

674
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:29,079
ized yesterday if I

675
00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:32,130
could just add the annexation we went through altogether I

676
00:29:32,130 --> 00:29:34,039
think five between

677
00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:37,680
public hearings public meetings five different meetings for

678
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,640
a small piece of

679
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,980
property but exactly those are the rules thank you for your

680
00:29:42,980 --> 00:29:44,559
hard work it started

681
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:51,269
in February cool anything else Commissioner Sanchez on the

682
00:29:51,269 --> 00:29:51,680
north side

683
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,490
that's gonna be a garage right there that's what they're

684
00:29:55,490 --> 00:29:56,640
working on and then

685
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,700
it's just gonna be an extension yes this is all gonna be

686
00:30:00,700 --> 00:30:01,200
one side and it's all

687
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:06,400
gonna be a garage that's correct which will have access off

688
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,240
of old Alton right

689
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:15,359
about here okay Commissioner Ellis thank you chair so when

690
00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:16,200
they combine the two

691
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,619
still only access off old Alton there that's for the whole

692
00:30:19,619 --> 00:30:21,000
development okay

693
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,740
thanks this this looks like a lot here but what it actually

694
00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:26,799
is it's right of

695
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:37,599
wife or Teasley Commissioner Beck I just like a publicly

696
00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:38,920
apologize to the staff

697
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,019
for sending up a false red flag about the sign on that my

698
00:30:42,019 --> 00:30:42,940
bad I was looking on

699
00:30:42,940 --> 00:30:48,150
the wrong side of the road so I sincerely apologize for

700
00:30:48,150 --> 00:30:49,319
that thank you

701
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:58,140
just as a note looks like the current zoning map hasn't

702
00:30:58,140 --> 00:31:00,000
been updated for the

703
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,329
site to the north that we've rezoned I think that's on LCMG

704
00:31:04,329 --> 00:31:05,440
also correct yeah I

705
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,920
don't think I don't think it has been updated quite yet

706
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,400
okay any other

707
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:17,759
questions for staff on this okay thank you Cindy thank you

708
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:28,519
that will move us to Adam see Haley

709
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:51,609
so this is a proposed amendment to the DVC to remove

710
00:31:51,609 --> 00:31:58,680
limitation 34 so the

711
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,240
request before you as I mentioned is to remove limitation

712
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,400
34 from sub chapter

713
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,789
5 our zoning districts and limitations this limitation only

714
00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:07,839
applies to the

715
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:10,680
distribution center warehouse and warehouse retail uses

716
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:11,240
within our

717
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:11,240
employment center districts so a little bit of background

718
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:17,400
this was taken to City

719
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:17,400
Council as a work session item and they recommended that we

720
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,519
bring it forward

721
00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:25,180
prior to the overall code update so what we're proposing is

722
00:32:25,180 --> 00:32:26,559
to remove limitation

723
00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:31,240
34 entirely from the code what limitation 34 states is that

724
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:31,440
the

725
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,400
warehouse and distribution center uses are permitted with

726
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,279
no more than 150,000

727
00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:39,089
gross square feet and eight truck docks it further stip

728
00:32:39,089 --> 00:32:40,259
ulates that all of the

729
00:32:40,259 --> 00:32:42,289
docks and bays shall be to the rear or side of the

730
00:32:42,289 --> 00:32:43,519
structure not visible from

731
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:46,519
the street and that buffering standards apply to any

732
00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:47,920
outdoor storage as well as

733
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,559
the loading docks just to give you a point of reference for

734
00:32:51,559 --> 00:32:52,880
150,000 square

735
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,690
feet equates to this is the Walmart at razor ranch it's

736
00:32:56,690 --> 00:32:58,240
just over that size and

737
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,680
has six truck docks on it so we're talking about this

738
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,640
applying to something

739
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,200
roughly the size of a Walmart or larger just a little bit

740
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,440
of background so

741
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,559
limitation 34 has been in the code since it was adopted in

742
00:33:11,559 --> 00:33:13,920
2002 in 2012 we

743
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,940
changed some of the warehouse and distribution center type

744
00:33:17,940 --> 00:33:18,880
uses so prior

745
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,599
to this we had wholesale storage and distribution and

746
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:23,000
distribution centers as

747
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,000
separate uses and l34 only applied to the wholesale storage

748
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,160
use within the ECI

749
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,279
district both of those uses were completely removed in 2012

750
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:33,779
and we got

751
00:33:33,779 --> 00:33:36,589
our current uses which is distribution center slash

752
00:33:36,589 --> 00:33:37,920
warehouse general and

753
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,440
warehouse retail and then we extended the applicability of

754
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,599
limitation 34

755
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:46,750
to apply to both of those uses within ECI and then to

756
00:33:46,750 --> 00:33:48,240
retail warehouses within

757
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:54,660
ECC so we did a little bit of internal analysis just to see

758
00:33:54,660 --> 00:33:55,839
how much property

759
00:33:55,839 --> 00:34:00,819
this would affect within the ECI zoning district if you run

760
00:34:00,819 --> 00:34:02,640
just some basic math

761
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,740
on a site to see what would it take to fit a hundred and

762
00:34:04,740 --> 00:34:05,680
fifty thousand square

763
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,949
foot building allowing for parking at a rate of one to one

764
00:34:08,949 --> 00:34:10,079
thousand and then

765
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:12,739
accounting for the lot coverage with an ECI which is a

766
00:34:12,739 --> 00:34:14,699
maximum of 85% what we

767
00:34:14,699 --> 00:34:18,630
find is that you need a site that's a minimum of 5.2 acres

768
00:34:18,630 --> 00:34:19,920
to fit a structure

769
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,559
that size and adequately provide for parking of it so just

770
00:34:23,559 --> 00:34:24,480
looking at our map

771
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,300
all it's a little hard to see but all of the sites that are

772
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:27,960
in the black

773
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,170
outlining with the hatch marks on them are the sites that

774
00:34:30,170 --> 00:34:31,000
that would actually

775
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,829
fit so we're not talking about all that much property that

776
00:34:34,829 --> 00:34:35,679
this would change

777
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,869
anything for within the ECI district I believe the total

778
00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:40,400
was just over 400

779
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:46,309
acres and it was 23 properties across the city and they're

780
00:34:46,309 --> 00:34:47,500
running along that

781
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:51,139
same thought process within the ECC district to see what

782
00:34:51,139 --> 00:34:52,239
size of property

783
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,639
you would have to have to actually be able to fit 150,000

784
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:56,920
square feet we found

785
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,730
your minimum lot size would be 5.5 acres so that applied to

786
00:35:00,730 --> 00:35:02,199
about 150 acres total

787
00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:08,309
in the city that was limited to these six properties some

788
00:35:08,309 --> 00:35:10,079
further considerations

789
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:13,010
we did do a comparison of several neighboring cities you

790
00:35:13,010 --> 00:35:13,880
can see the list

791
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,460
here we found none of them had anything even remotely

792
00:35:17,460 --> 00:35:19,519
similar to this that in

793
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:22,619
terms of limitations on warehouses or distribution centers

794
00:35:22,619 --> 00:35:23,519
within McKinney

795
00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:26,920
within their town center they limit warehouses to 20,000

796
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:27,599
square feet other

797
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:31,150
than that there are no limitations and then within Carroll

798
00:35:31,150 --> 00:35:32,360
ton warehouses are

799
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,909
limited to being an accessory used within their corporate

800
00:35:34,909 --> 00:35:35,480
commercial

801
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,630
district which is intended to be more for office office

802
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:39,579
campuses but you could

803
00:35:39,579 --> 00:35:44,079
have an accessory warehouse at those facilities further

804
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:45,440
looking at what we're

805
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,659
permit currently without limitation in our ECC and ECI

806
00:35:48,659 --> 00:35:49,639
districts light

807
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:52,980
manufacturing is permitted by right no limitations on size

808
00:35:52,980 --> 00:35:53,920
or the number of

809
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,150
base that you can have at a facility if you're

810
00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:57,760
manufacturing craft alcohol

811
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,880
production also permitted by right so if you had a site

812
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,960
that was actually

813
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,900
producing alcohol or another product they could have as

814
00:36:04,900 --> 00:36:06,119
many bays and as much

815
00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:08,150
square footage as they wanted but if it's solely a

816
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:09,039
distribution center

817
00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:12,409
that's where our limitations would currently apply and just

818
00:36:12,409 --> 00:36:13,239
in speaking with

819
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,820
our economic development team they do see a lot of requests

820
00:36:16,820 --> 00:36:17,679
for property where

821
00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:20,570
you could put a large warehouse and the average minimum

822
00:36:20,570 --> 00:36:21,440
size that these

823
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,320
corporations are looking for is 200 to 300 thousand square

824
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,639
feet of building so

825
00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:29,730
currently we limit greatly where those facilities could go

826
00:36:29,730 --> 00:36:31,639
in the city with all

827
00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:35,449
that being said staff is recommending removing l34 from all

828
00:36:35,449 --> 00:36:36,239
of the employment

829
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,280
center districts as we've discussed here and I'd be happy

830
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,039
to answer any other

831
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:43,619
questions Commissioner Beck thank you chair just to satisfy

832
00:36:43,619 --> 00:36:44,880
my own curiosity I

833
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,530
assume Walmart got an exception to the ruling when they

834
00:36:48,530 --> 00:36:49,400
built that as what a

835
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,880
part of the razor-range overlay Walmart is actually just

836
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:53,960
considered retail so

837
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,150
this limitation didn't apply I was just using that for a

838
00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:57,119
size comparison to let

839
00:36:57,119 --> 00:36:59,500
you know what type of or size of facility that we were

840
00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:02,679
looking at thanks

841
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:13,650
any other questions for Haley okay thank you that will run

842
00:37:13,650 --> 00:37:16,199
us through our agenda

843
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:21,539
for this evening and it will take us to back in our work

844
00:37:21,539 --> 00:37:23,920
session to receive our

845
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:30,980
work session report and I don't know which withers okay

846
00:37:30,980 --> 00:37:33,840
good evening chair

847
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,880
commissioners Scott McDonald director of development

848
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,000
services just want to give

849
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:43,760
you a brief update on the development code review committee

850
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,159
took some action

851
00:37:45,159 --> 00:37:47,889
at City Council last night there's been a little bit of

852
00:37:47,889 --> 00:37:48,960
confusion as to the

853
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,449
makeup and how it is that the the group is going to

854
00:37:53,449 --> 00:37:56,599
function so through a

855
00:37:56,599 --> 00:38:00,559
resolution with council the committee is comprised of a

856
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:02,039
total of six members

857
00:38:02,039 --> 00:38:05,619
three members which are council or considered the voting

858
00:38:05,619 --> 00:38:06,800
members two of

859
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,090
those council members make a quorum the council members

860
00:38:11,090 --> 00:38:13,199
will serve as chair vice

861
00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:17,519
chair three P&Z members are ex officios and part of that

862
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:19,440
committee ultimately

863
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,489
some of that conversation and just as a heads up on this

864
00:38:23,489 --> 00:38:25,280
that there won't be a

865
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,969
great deal of voting that will take place this is going to

866
00:38:27,969 --> 00:38:29,519
be more gathering

867
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:35,349
input seeking input from both P&Z and council this

868
00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:37,639
committee also will have a

869
00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:43,809
sunset date of December of 2018 and council has the option

870
00:38:43,809 --> 00:38:45,559
of of course

871
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:50,769
changing that but that's that's the way that the resolution

872
00:38:50,769 --> 00:38:52,280
is set it is also

873
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:57,489
the intent that staff will come back before this group and

874
00:38:57,489 --> 00:38:59,480
report what status

875
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,639
were the were the committee the work group is steps that

876
00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:04,519
have been achieved

877
00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:09,519
and and kind of address what the committee's concerns are

878
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:10,440
it is our intent

879
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:17,360
to walk through our we have the as you know three modules

880
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,880
and we'll be

881
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,050
presenting before this group next week with module three

882
00:39:22,050 --> 00:39:23,320
which are their final

883
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,199
sub chapters but the subcommittee is going to be walking

884
00:39:26,199 --> 00:39:27,199
through it as if it

885
00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:31,469
is the development code beginning with sub chapter one and

886
00:39:31,469 --> 00:39:32,519
then we'll just work

887
00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:36,480
through at a pace that's comfortable for the subcommittee

888
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,079
and if you have any

889
00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:40,630
questions as far as organizational Ron is going to bring

890
00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:41,599
you just a little bit

891
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:44,309
of an update of it and kind of where we're at and where we

892
00:39:44,309 --> 00:39:46,000
're going the next

893
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,550
meeting is on next Wednesday for the subcommittee and that

894
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:51,400
will be an

895
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,630
organizational meeting where it is that will set the chair

896
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:57,239
vice chair capture

897
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,119
the minutes from previous meetings and ultimately work on

898
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:02,440
really those goals

899
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,699
and it'll be an overview while clearing is here of the

900
00:40:05,699 --> 00:40:07,199
contents of module three

901
00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:10,639
and answer any questions that they have

902
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,929
Commissioner Roselle thank you with with some of the

903
00:40:15,929 --> 00:40:17,280
committee members rolling

904
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,360
off council do you have an update of what three council

905
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,159
members are on that

906
00:40:20,159 --> 00:40:23,869
committee thank you yes I intended to to bring that as well

907
00:40:23,869 --> 00:40:26,360
so councilperson

908
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,849
Sarah Baguier ultimately is coming off and council

909
00:40:30,849 --> 00:40:34,039
appointed mayor Watts to to

910
00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:39,239
be that third member so the members then in turn will be Ke

911
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,039
ely Briggs John

912
00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:49,800
Ryan thank you and Chris Watts thank you

913
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:56,599
Commissioner Ellis thank you chair Scott I know this the

914
00:40:56,599 --> 00:40:57,400
draft resolution

915
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,769
changed because I read it and then it was different this

916
00:41:00,769 --> 00:41:01,960
morning so can you

917
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,170
walk me through that discussion I'm just trying to figure

918
00:41:04,170 --> 00:41:05,039
out exactly what our

919
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:08,920
role is now just because at one point it was going to be a

920
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:09,920
six-person committee

921
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,159
and it kind of still is sort of not really because you got

922
00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:15,039
a quorum really

923
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:17,880
with two of three council people so will you just walk me

924
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,079
through that a little

925
00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:24,289
bit yes and ultimately discuss this in work session and

926
00:41:24,289 --> 00:41:26,480
there was some some

927
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,360
dialogue that went back and forth with council and it was

928
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,920
councils intent that

929
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:37,119
because the original committee that was created and I don't

930
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:38,199
recall what year was

931
00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:41,440
three council persons and they wanted to keep it in that in

932
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:42,960
that context but they

933
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:48,170
also did value the input of P&Z so it was important to keep

934
00:41:48,170 --> 00:41:48,880
the three members

935
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,300
the resolution then just makes that committee a committee

936
00:41:53,300 --> 00:41:54,440
of six which is

937
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,250
three of the council three of the P&Z P&Z acting in an ex

938
00:41:58,250 --> 00:41:59,639
officio capacity I

939
00:41:59,639 --> 00:42:03,460
can tell you for me personally that it is my intent that

940
00:42:03,460 --> 00:42:05,079
really it's the voices

941
00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:08,150
that I hear in the differing opinions as to how it is that

942
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:09,360
we move forward and

943
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,469
what we do with that ultimately council has the final

944
00:42:12,469 --> 00:42:14,159
decision on how it is that

945
00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:17,969
we adopt and what we adopt and I and I really don't think

946
00:42:17,969 --> 00:42:19,159
that there will be

947
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:22,630
too many opportunities that we're really gonna have to vote

948
00:42:22,630 --> 00:42:23,440
really it's gonna be

949
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,829
a recommendation of the committee to move what we're

950
00:42:26,829 --> 00:42:28,519
proposing forward if that

951
00:42:28,519 --> 00:42:33,369
helps what does but what we're proposing for will be voted

952
00:42:33,369 --> 00:42:34,539
on by the three

953
00:42:34,539 --> 00:42:38,679
council people correct if if a vote is necessary that would

954
00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:39,920
be how the voting

955
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,309
would take place would ultimately be the three council

956
00:42:43,309 --> 00:42:46,719
people correct right okay

957
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,730
only question I would have on the the meetings that you're

958
00:42:51,730 --> 00:42:53,320
talking about are

959
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,659
those televised or live stream where we can watch those or

960
00:42:57,659 --> 00:42:58,719
do you have to

961
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,300
actually come and attend them you'd have to come and attend

962
00:43:01,300 --> 00:43:02,679
them they're they're

963
00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:06,250
open to the public of course they're posted and I think we

964
00:43:06,250 --> 00:43:07,760
'll have a regular a

965
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,760
regularly scheduled time that that we're gonna work to do

966
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,559
day and time okay

967
00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:19,900
and you know then Ron will give you a brief update of where

968
00:43:19,900 --> 00:43:21,000
we're at and where

969
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,239
we're going okay thank you Scott thank you

970
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,309
thank you chair members of the Commission I'll try to make

971
00:43:30,309 --> 00:43:31,320
it brief our

972
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:36,719
meeting last Friday was two hours so I don't plan on taking

973
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,719
two hours but we'll

974
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:44,679
go through this really quickly my presentation real quick

975
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,880
so as Scott said we met with the Advisory Committee there's

976
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:57,400
really high

977
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,699
level went over the purpose of the DEN development code

978
00:44:00,699 --> 00:44:02,000
update of course our

979
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,360
DEN plan 2030 to be consistent with that but also

980
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,719
consistent with the vision of

981
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,079
the DEN plan 2030 we are looking at updating our code not

982
00:44:11,079 --> 00:44:12,800
only in the the

983
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:18,010
zoning districts but also the development standards as well

984
00:44:18,010 --> 00:44:18,920
the

985
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,730
chapters that we will get into a little more into detail

986
00:44:22,730 --> 00:44:24,679
later are here shown

987
00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:29,230
here they are eight total sub chapters we're going from 24

988
00:44:29,230 --> 00:44:31,320
to 8 again we we

989
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,590
went through with Clary on last the 28 that is with

990
00:44:35,590 --> 00:44:38,079
chapters 1 & 2 we will go

991
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:45,519
through 6 7 & 8 next Wednesday I won't go through each one

992
00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:46,519
of this but again

993
00:44:46,519 --> 00:44:49,730
sub chapter 1 is general provisions sub chapter 2 is

994
00:44:49,730 --> 00:44:50,760
administration and

995
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,090
procedures and again you heard that again from Clary on a

996
00:44:55,090 --> 00:44:56,480
couple weeks ago

997
00:44:56,559 --> 00:45:01,139
sub chapter 3 our zoning district and sub chapter 4 overlay

998
00:45:01,139 --> 00:45:02,440
districts is

999
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,780
important these are important sub chapters this is where we

1000
00:45:05,780 --> 00:45:06,639
see a lot of

1001
00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:11,130
our zoning cases come through and this is where everything

1002
00:45:11,130 --> 00:45:12,480
is put in for

1003
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:18,239
example the sub chapter 3 we are going from 28 I'm sorry

1004
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,920
yes 28 zoning

1005
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,730
districts currently down to 14 so there's going to be a lot

1006
00:45:23,730 --> 00:45:24,679
of consolidation

1007
00:45:24,679 --> 00:45:31,050
elimination revised and also new zoning districts as well

1008
00:45:31,050 --> 00:45:32,480
included in that sub

1009
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,480
chapters are dimensional standards the maximum height

1010
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,039
maximum lot coverage the

1011
00:45:39,039 --> 00:45:44,250
minimum setbacks and minimum lot area sub chapter 4 will

1012
00:45:44,250 --> 00:45:45,800
contain our overlay

1013
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,900
and historic districts none of those will change they will

1014
00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:50,320
carry forward and move

1015
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:56,800
over to this sub chapter sub chapter 5 is our use

1016
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,760
regulations this is where we

1017
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,949
look at what uses are permitted in each zoning district it

1018
00:46:01,949 --> 00:46:03,880
will advise us as to

1019
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:09,090
if it's permitted by right by SUP or permitted by a use

1020
00:46:09,090 --> 00:46:11,440
specific standard now

1021
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,940
you specific standard is it's basically our limitations so

1022
00:46:14,940 --> 00:46:15,800
what you see is

1023
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,199
limitations they're just renaming it as you specific

1024
00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:21,880
standards one big thing

1025
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:27,090
that is not included in this sub chapter moving forward the

1026
00:46:27,090 --> 00:46:28,719
mixed use residential

1027
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,900
overlay protection will no longer be included in that and

1028
00:46:31,900 --> 00:46:32,920
the hope is that

1029
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,650
the development standards as proposed will address

1030
00:46:35,650 --> 00:46:38,440
compatibility moving forward

1031
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,449
included in this sub chapter are our accessory uses and

1032
00:46:42,449 --> 00:46:44,159
structures temporary

1033
00:46:44,159 --> 00:46:50,059
uses our wireless telecommunication and gas well standards

1034
00:46:50,059 --> 00:46:53,599
as well some of those

1035
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:57,860
are ready sub chapter 6 is our development standards this

1036
00:46:57,860 --> 00:46:58,599
is the the

1037
00:46:58,599 --> 00:47:02,179
largest sub chapter it contains a number of sections that

1038
00:47:02,179 --> 00:47:02,960
are currently

1039
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,309
different sub chapters in our current code as you can see

1040
00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:08,079
here this is what it

1041
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:11,269
will include from land disturbing activities only through

1042
00:47:11,269 --> 00:47:11,760
parking

1043
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,579
buildings and site design down to water and wastewater

1044
00:47:15,579 --> 00:47:21,039
standards sub chapter 7

1045
00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:23,880
is our subdivision regulations and that includes our plat

1046
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:24,880
ting requirements

1047
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:30,079
public improvements requirements more on how subdivisions

1048
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:32,559
are handled and yes

1049
00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:37,199
that's true definitions we know a definition this is

1050
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:37,719
important right

1051
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,349
because a lot of times we want to make sure we understand

1052
00:47:40,349 --> 00:47:41,239
what the use is or

1053
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,139
what the term is and that's where the sub chapter 8 will

1054
00:47:45,139 --> 00:47:46,360
contain all of our

1055
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:52,039
definitions so that being said we've got a lot to bring

1056
00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:54,400
forward all of the public

1057
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,659
drafts are online as we speak that's all of those sub

1058
00:47:58,659 --> 00:48:00,460
chapters 1 through 8 so

1059
00:48:00,460 --> 00:48:05,019
anybody that's watching please go to den code 2030 comm you

1060
00:48:05,019 --> 00:48:05,800
can view those

1061
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,869
sub chapters and you can make comments online you can also

1062
00:48:09,869 --> 00:48:11,239
call or provide us

1063
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,429
an email or send us an email that is with any comments

1064
00:48:14,429 --> 00:48:16,440
moving forward we've

1065
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:21,650
already gone through the module 1 we've done module 2 last

1066
00:48:21,650 --> 00:48:23,039
month we are going to

1067
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:26,429
be doing module 3 next week we see here this is the

1068
00:48:26,429 --> 00:48:28,679
schedule as clarion will be

1069
00:48:28,679 --> 00:48:32,199
visiting us next week we will start with a work session

1070
00:48:32,199 --> 00:48:33,480
with council and go

1071
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,599
through these meetings and end it with a public open house

1072
00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:39,119
which will be held on

1073
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:44,699
Wednesday from 6 to 8 at the den that should say Civic

1074
00:48:44,699 --> 00:48:45,840
Center I should change

1075
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,820
that that's Civic Center on April 10th which was yesterday

1076
00:48:50,820 --> 00:48:52,400
our zoning map went

1077
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:58,440
online as well so our proposed only map was that is drafted

1078
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,559
was put online so

1079
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:03,429
those folks that are able to can also view that zoning map

1080
00:49:03,429 --> 00:49:05,159
on our website den

1081
00:49:05,159 --> 00:49:11,679
code 2030 comm to help answer questions and address any

1082
00:49:11,679 --> 00:49:13,659
concerns or issues we

1083
00:49:13,659 --> 00:49:17,889
have put together a series of public open houses that you

1084
00:49:17,889 --> 00:49:20,039
see here the first

1085
00:49:20,039 --> 00:49:23,909
one will start on April 23rd at the Fred Moore High School

1086
00:49:23,909 --> 00:49:25,260
from 6 to 8 we will

1087
00:49:25,260 --> 00:49:29,670
have staff available to answer questions we've got we had a

1088
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:31,679
total of seven the

1089
00:49:31,679 --> 00:49:36,000
committee suggested that we add more at any public

1090
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,199
libraries to assist or to

1091
00:49:38,199 --> 00:49:41,530
provide those that are able to go to a library through

1092
00:49:41,530 --> 00:49:43,199
public transit it's a

1093
00:49:43,199 --> 00:49:47,090
more of a central or public place that they can make it to

1094
00:49:47,090 --> 00:49:48,480
so we are proposing

1095
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,059
three additional workshops or a public open space open

1096
00:49:52,059 --> 00:49:54,199
houses that is at the

1097
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:57,690
three libraries that we have again those dates have not yet

1098
00:49:57,690 --> 00:49:58,920
been determined but

1099
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,519
we will schedule those as soon as possible and post it

1100
00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:04,119
online as well

1101
00:50:04,119 --> 00:50:09,889
these dates also were included in a postcard that was sent

1102
00:50:09,889 --> 00:50:11,000
out I believe it

1103
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,949
was last week so every property owner should have received

1104
00:50:14,949 --> 00:50:16,079
a postcard with

1105
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:20,179
these public open house dates and times so if they didn't

1106
00:50:20,179 --> 00:50:21,199
catch it here

1107
00:50:21,199 --> 00:50:24,780
hopefully they will catch it when they get their postcard

1108
00:50:24,780 --> 00:50:25,880
in their mail they

1109
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:31,690
should have received it by either today or tomorrow there's

1110
00:50:31,690 --> 00:50:33,119
a postcard I failed

1111
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:35,489
to notice that that was the next slide so this is the post

1112
00:50:35,489 --> 00:50:36,360
card that went out

1113
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,550
and as you can see hard to see maybe on my screen but the

1114
00:50:39,550 --> 00:50:41,000
the dates that I just

1115
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:46,210
went over the seven are included with the the postcard

1116
00:50:46,210 --> 00:50:47,440
again we are trying to

1117
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,840
direct post folks to the website again a lot of information

1118
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:51,920
is on the website

1119
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:58,349
including the zoning map so again denco 2030 comm so we we

1120
00:50:58,349 --> 00:50:59,400
send those to

1121
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,699
property owners but we also know that citizens residents

1122
00:51:02,699 --> 00:51:03,679
that don't own

1123
00:51:03,679 --> 00:51:07,110
property are also interested so we are trying to make sure

1124
00:51:07,110 --> 00:51:08,119
that we get them

1125
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:12,090
involved and engaged with this process these are the list

1126
00:51:12,090 --> 00:51:13,360
that you see up here

1127
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,750
our our communication plan to get the word out we we also

1128
00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:18,920
rely on the planning

1129
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,250
zoning Commission to help spread that word so any

1130
00:51:21,250 --> 00:51:22,599
information that you can or

1131
00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:26,940
any feedback or any ways that we can do better please let

1132
00:51:26,940 --> 00:51:28,480
us know but we also

1133
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,659
encourage you to help spread that word about what's going

1134
00:51:31,659 --> 00:51:32,880
on with the den code

1135
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:38,280
update we have a dedicated website I probably said it three

1136
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:39,440
times already but

1137
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:45,579
den code 2030 comm is where everything is being put in we

1138
00:51:45,579 --> 00:51:47,320
've got links to all

1139
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,420
of the sub chapters as well as the zoning map and any other

1140
00:51:51,420 --> 00:51:52,280
information

1141
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:59,329
that is relevant to this process when we're at the public

1142
00:51:59,329 --> 00:52:01,000
open houses we hope

1143
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,030
that there are a lot of people there that have questions we

1144
00:52:04,030 --> 00:52:04,880
hopefully can

1145
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:09,239
answer them but if we cannot we will take their comments

1146
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,639
write it down and

1147
00:52:10,639 --> 00:52:15,849
document it and so when we start to revise our draft we we

1148
00:52:15,849 --> 00:52:17,159
can refer back

1149
00:52:17,159 --> 00:52:20,969
to these common cards so at those public open houses we'll

1150
00:52:20,969 --> 00:52:22,119
have a fair number of

1151
00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:25,059
these comic cards available so that people can fill out and

1152
00:52:25,059 --> 00:52:25,840
make sure that

1153
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:35,320
they provide it back to us so this next few slides is

1154
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,639
regarding the zoning map

1155
00:52:37,639 --> 00:52:42,500
update I can go through it it's a fairly lengthy discussion

1156
00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:43,760
I don't know chair if

1157
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,159
you want to take a break there's food available and then we

1158
00:52:48,159 --> 00:52:48,760
can go through this

1159
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,260
so we don't have to break the presentation that's up to y'

1160
00:52:52,260 --> 00:52:52,960
all it'd be

1161
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:58,050
a great suggestion so why don't we call a recess at 553 and

1162
00:52:58,050 --> 00:52:59,159
we'll try to get back by 6.

1163
00:52:59,159 --> 00:53:15,880
Going to reopen our work session at 6.01 and let Ron go

1164
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:16,840
ahead and continue

1165
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,480
this presentation. Great thank you chair members of the

1166
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,280
commission I felt you

1167
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,809
emphasize this one important change that's being proposed

1168
00:53:26,809 --> 00:53:28,079
with the den code

1169
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:32,340
update and that with the new 14 zoning districts I

1170
00:53:32,340 --> 00:53:33,480
mentioned that we have

1171
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:41,440
minimum lot areas minimum setbacks we also have maximum

1172
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:42,800
maximum heights and

1173
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:47,159
maximum lock coverage that being said the proposal is we

1174
00:53:47,159 --> 00:53:48,440
will no longer as

1175
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,360
proposed have any density requirements so there will be no

1176
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,119
density so you're for

1177
00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:58,409
example in our four four units per acre none of that it

1178
00:53:58,409 --> 00:53:59,599
will be based on the

1179
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:03,519
development regulations parking lot coverage landscaping

1180
00:54:03,519 --> 00:54:06,519
that will set the

1181
00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:10,329
development for that property so I hope that I know that

1182
00:54:10,329 --> 00:54:11,420
was a big one for me

1183
00:54:11,420 --> 00:54:16,630
too so I wanted to make sure that I got that through.

1184
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:17,559
Commissioner back. Thank you

1185
00:54:17,559 --> 00:54:20,469
chair. I appreciate you mentioned it Ron I'd encourage Ron

1186
00:54:20,469 --> 00:54:21,119
to bring that out

1187
00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:24,719
because that was kind of a scary thing for us I think the

1188
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:25,719
concern was by

1189
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,949
removing that limitation there we've got to rely on lot

1190
00:54:29,949 --> 00:54:31,840
coverage and and building

1191
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,260
height stuff like that so the concern was you know could

1192
00:54:34,260 --> 00:54:35,239
they build them higher

1193
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,260
and put more in there because it could build them higher so

1194
00:54:38,260 --> 00:54:38,960
that's just

1195
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:43,789
something you know we need to as a commission need to kind

1196
00:54:43,789 --> 00:54:44,559
of watch as we

1197
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:47,380
move along there that one that one I think bothered a

1198
00:54:47,380 --> 00:54:48,880
couple people. That was

1199
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,079
a big one so I apologize I went through that I didn't mean

1200
00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:54,280
to but I want to

1201
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,760
make sure that that was clear that we are proposing as it

1202
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,239
is no density

1203
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:08,690
maximums or requirements. Ron if I could just add one one

1204
00:55:08,690 --> 00:55:11,199
notion within the each

1205
00:55:11,199 --> 00:55:14,780
zoning new zoning district there are you know there are the

1206
00:55:14,780 --> 00:55:15,639
standards the setback

1207
00:55:15,639 --> 00:55:19,280
requirements we are looking at adjusting some some of those

1208
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,440
where some might be a

1209
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:26,199
six foot side setback they may be reduced to five given the

1210
00:55:26,199 --> 00:55:27,440
majority of

1211
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,360
the NR4 lots that we have now and so I just wanted to point

1212
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:32,039
that out because we

1213
00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:35,829
haven't we haven't adjusted that yet from from module one

1214
00:55:35,829 --> 00:55:36,960
so that'll be taken

1215
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,460
care of after module three when we do the complete draft so

1216
00:55:39,460 --> 00:55:40,199
just wanted to

1217
00:55:40,199 --> 00:55:42,820
point that out in case somebody sees that and thinks that

1218
00:55:42,820 --> 00:55:43,760
their property now

1219
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,250
will be non-conforming we we're still looking at adjusting

1220
00:55:47,250 --> 00:55:48,840
that. When will that

1221
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,320
adjustment come out you say? With the public draft of the

1222
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,880
entire code. That's set for

1223
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:58,280
June, July so as soon as we get comments from these sets of

1224
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:59,800
public drafts the

1225
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,760
consultants will go back and make necessary revisions and

1226
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:03,599
then bring back

1227
00:56:03,599 --> 00:56:06,840
a draft that we can present back to the Commission and to

1228
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:07,800
the rest of the

1229
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:13,239
public. Thank you. Again yeah just to add to what Richard

1230
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:14,599
said in addition to those

1231
00:56:14,599 --> 00:56:19,809
zoning dimensional standards also the use standards or use

1232
00:56:19,809 --> 00:56:20,639
table we're also

1233
00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:22,969
looking at updating as well so there there will be some

1234
00:56:22,969 --> 00:56:23,639
changes and we

1235
00:56:23,639 --> 00:56:27,659
anticipate additional input as we get through this process

1236
00:56:27,659 --> 00:56:28,679
so a lot of a lot

1237
00:56:28,679 --> 00:56:32,480
of input a lot of revisions but hopefully we can get to

1238
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:33,880
approve of a

1239
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:39,159
development code update. Okay so next important topic is

1240
00:56:39,159 --> 00:56:41,639
zoning. Zoning map.

1241
00:56:41,639 --> 00:56:46,920
The zoning map as you know we has to be updated because we

1242
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,599
have new zoning

1243
00:56:48,599 --> 00:56:53,309
districts we're going from 28 to 14 and those 14 don't

1244
00:56:53,309 --> 00:56:54,880
share the same name or

1245
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,840
the same you know some of them don't share the same

1246
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,519
intensity or density so

1247
00:57:00,519 --> 00:57:03,079
there are going to be some properties that are going to be

1248
00:57:03,079 --> 00:57:04,000
changed our hope is

1249
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,800
that we can just convert convert that is those zoning

1250
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,199
districts that we have now

1251
00:57:09,199 --> 00:57:14,389
to a zoning district that is being proposed and I've got a

1252
00:57:14,389 --> 00:57:15,280
table or a chart

1253
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,260
that shows how that's going to be done but we've went

1254
00:57:19,260 --> 00:57:21,039
through the a process

1255
00:57:21,039 --> 00:57:23,489
it's it's not it wasn't a simple process but I want to make

1256
00:57:23,489 --> 00:57:24,800
sure that you all

1257
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,320
understand it it is still a draft in that we're going to

1258
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:29,440
need to update it but

1259
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:34,230
this is our first brush of trying to make a zoning map out

1260
00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:35,760
of the new zoning

1261
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,340
district so I won't go through this list because I've got a

1262
00:57:39,340 --> 00:57:40,440
slide for each of

1263
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:45,389
these criteria a total of 16 so I'll go ahead and start

1264
00:57:45,389 --> 00:57:46,480
with the first one of

1265
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,780
course we started off with the DIM plan 2030 looked at the

1266
00:57:49,780 --> 00:57:50,639
goals and object

1267
00:57:50,639 --> 00:57:55,159
objectives as it relates to a lane use and zoning the big

1268
00:57:55,159 --> 00:57:55,960
one there is our

1269
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,960
community vision statement we we want to make sure that

1270
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,079
that's the focus that's

1271
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:03,480
what the citizens approved back in 2015 and we want to make

1272
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:04,599
sure it's consistent

1273
00:58:04,599 --> 00:58:12,139
with the vision of the city after the the the vision and

1274
00:58:12,139 --> 00:58:13,639
the the goals and

1275
00:58:13,639 --> 00:58:16,760
objectives we looked at the future land use map that you

1276
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,440
see here and you often

1277
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:22,440
hear from us from staff these future land use designations

1278
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:23,519
from rural areas

1279
00:58:23,519 --> 00:58:27,099
down to business innovation all the way through you know

1280
00:58:27,099 --> 00:58:28,039
neighborhood

1281
00:58:28,039 --> 00:58:32,619
compatibility areas these are the future land use design

1282
00:58:32,619 --> 00:58:34,599
ations as shown on our

1283
00:58:34,599 --> 00:58:38,480
future land use map so here's the chart that I was

1284
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,360
referring to earlier on the

1285
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:45,730
left is the future land use designation in our DIM plan

1286
00:58:45,730 --> 00:58:49,719
2030 to the right is

1287
00:58:49,719 --> 00:58:53,619
the the middle column is the current zoning districts and

1288
00:58:53,619 --> 00:58:54,840
this is how we see

1289
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,840
these zoning districts where they fall under that specific

1290
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,159
future land use

1291
00:59:00,159 --> 00:59:05,369
designation so for example in our one would be considered

1292
00:59:05,369 --> 00:59:07,440
low residential the

1293
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:15,320
NR 2346 is moderate residential and so on and so forth the

1294
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,039
farthest right column

1295
00:59:17,039 --> 00:59:20,429
is our proposed zoning district that is the 14 zoning

1296
00:59:20,429 --> 00:59:21,639
districts that I was

1297
00:59:21,639 --> 00:59:26,889
referring to this is how we see them being converted from

1298
00:59:26,889 --> 00:59:28,440
not only the

1299
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,539
current zoning district but from the future land use

1300
00:59:31,539 --> 00:59:32,880
designation so I'm gonna

1301
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,900
keep this up here for a little bit and ask if anybody has

1302
00:59:35,900 --> 00:59:37,800
any questions with

1303
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,610
this chart and I apologize none of this was provided in

1304
00:59:41,610 --> 00:59:43,239
advance but wanted just

1305
00:59:43,239 --> 00:59:47,050
to give y'all some time since we have time to go over the

1306
00:59:47,050 --> 00:59:48,079
process of our

1307
00:59:48,079 --> 00:59:57,280
update of our zoning map so the next step was we had this

1308
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,599
methodology of not

1309
01:00:00,599 --> 01:00:06,599
not splitting parcel we purposely left parcels the way they

1310
01:00:06,599 --> 01:00:07,679
are we didn't want

1311
01:00:07,679 --> 01:00:13,260
to zone a property half one zoning and half the other so if

1312
01:00:13,260 --> 01:00:14,880
you see a parcel

1313
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:20,199
that extends long from from here to here this probably

1314
01:00:20,199 --> 01:00:23,039
should be zone geo general

1315
01:00:23,039 --> 01:00:26,519
office but because we didn't want to split parcels we left

1316
01:00:26,519 --> 01:00:27,320
it alone because

1317
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,960
we felt that that would cause even more confusion or more

1318
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,320
issues in the future

1319
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:37,880
so we left it based on parcels moving forward Ron question

1320
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,519
for on that yes sir

1321
01:00:39,519 --> 01:00:44,730
if you have on a on a current parcel split zoning did you

1322
01:00:44,730 --> 01:00:47,400
go with the more

1323
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,090
dense or the higher zoning rather than down zoning them for

1324
01:00:51,090 --> 01:00:52,000
a lot of those

1325
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,809
chair there the ones I recall are primarily around the

1326
01:00:55,809 --> 01:00:56,920
downtown or around

1327
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,920
the the University because we're limited we're limiting the

1328
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:01,559
amount of zoning

1329
01:01:01,559 --> 01:01:05,539
districts that automatically was zone whatever the zoning

1330
01:01:05,539 --> 01:01:07,119
that was closest to

1331
01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:10,510
the area so so to the to your answer to answer your

1332
01:01:10,510 --> 01:01:12,880
question that is yes but the

1333
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,260
majority of it we didn't deal with that specifically well I

1334
01:01:17,260 --> 01:01:18,400
'm just going through

1335
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,800
my memory of how many cases have come here over the years

1336
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:22,719
and split zonings

1337
01:01:22,719 --> 01:01:26,380
right and so obviously there's probably still some of those

1338
01:01:26,380 --> 01:01:27,760
out there so on

1339
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:33,929
split zoning cases you had to take that parcel now it's

1340
01:01:33,929 --> 01:01:35,440
owned right with one

1341
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,789
running rather than two in the one I recall it was the one

1342
01:01:38,789 --> 01:01:39,800
off of Scripture

1343
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,099
normal that one comes to mind that's the one I can I mean

1344
01:01:43,099 --> 01:01:44,639
in the example I gave

1345
01:01:44,639 --> 01:01:49,849
you the response I gave you we gave that a zoning that was

1346
01:01:49,849 --> 01:01:51,880
suitable for both for

1347
01:01:51,880 --> 01:02:02,199
example that was I believe dr2 and DCG right and so in that

1348
01:02:02,199 --> 01:02:04,079
area we we don't

1349
01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:10,000
amend because our current I'm sorry our proposed MD would

1350
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,599
not apply there so in

1351
01:02:11,599 --> 01:02:16,920
essence we took care of that split zoning by the proposed

1352
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,519
zoning proposed

1353
01:02:18,519 --> 01:02:22,099
again because we were dealing with less zoning districts so

1354
01:02:22,099 --> 01:02:23,119
there there wasn't a

1355
01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:26,969
lot of where we had split zoning to begin with or as a

1356
01:02:26,969 --> 01:02:29,360
result so I guess to

1357
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,960
carry the conversation one step further mm-hmm in that

1358
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:33,960
example since you brought

1359
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:38,139
it up that parcel had DCG and dr2 right and so instead of

1360
01:02:38,139 --> 01:02:39,079
that parcel becoming

1361
01:02:39,079 --> 01:02:44,289
an MD that parcels become an MN correct so back to my

1362
01:02:44,289 --> 01:02:46,039
question that property

1363
01:02:46,039 --> 01:02:51,239
really it's probably down zone rather than up zoned correct

1364
01:02:51,239 --> 01:02:52,320
okay and we will

1365
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,820
get to that that is there's something that's part of this

1366
01:02:54,820 --> 01:02:56,320
presentation and how

1367
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:00,719
we deal with down zoning and some up zoning as well okay

1368
01:03:00,719 --> 01:03:03,460
but good question so

1369
01:03:03,460 --> 01:03:08,659
the next step in the methodology was we applied the HC

1370
01:03:08,659 --> 01:03:10,039
which is a highway

1371
01:03:10,039 --> 01:03:13,690
corridor zoning district and what we did is we apply that

1372
01:03:13,690 --> 01:03:14,699
to properties or

1373
01:03:14,699 --> 01:03:20,639
parcels that is a long I 35 and we use a thousand foot

1374
01:03:20,639 --> 01:03:22,320
extension from the center

1375
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:27,760
line of the highway so as you can see this is I 35 where

1376
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,639
there are the car

1377
01:03:29,639 --> 01:03:34,849
dealerships some regional or commercial retail establish

1378
01:03:34,849 --> 01:03:36,679
ments in as you can see

1379
01:03:36,679 --> 01:03:40,280
based on what you see here majority of it roughly is about

1380
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:41,559
a thousand foot deep

1381
01:03:41,559 --> 01:03:46,769
now that may be a bit longer or deeper than normal but we

1382
01:03:46,769 --> 01:03:48,159
wanted to capture as

1383
01:03:48,159 --> 01:03:51,969
much as we can and we went back and made sure that if there

1384
01:03:51,969 --> 01:03:52,880
are existing

1385
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:58,090
neighborhoods or existing uses that would not fit the HC

1386
01:03:58,090 --> 01:03:59,639
zoning district we

1387
01:03:59,639 --> 01:04:03,219
went in and modified it and you can see some of it over

1388
01:04:03,219 --> 01:04:05,239
here as well the other

1389
01:04:05,239 --> 01:04:09,599
important thing is where there is a PD or a zoning overlay

1390
01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:11,079
and we'll get into

1391
01:04:11,079 --> 01:04:14,610
that a little bit more we left those alone as well those

1392
01:04:14,610 --> 01:04:16,440
existing PDs and

1393
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:23,500
existing zoning overlays will carry forward as PDs the

1394
01:04:23,500 --> 01:04:25,239
other zoning district

1395
01:04:25,239 --> 01:04:30,570
that we use along major corridor was the suburban quarter

1396
01:04:30,570 --> 01:04:32,440
zoning district and

1397
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,630
again we use the a thousand a thousand foot central from

1398
01:04:35,630 --> 01:04:37,039
the center line this

1399
01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:44,840
is loop 288 it also applied on University on Teasley and

1400
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:45,320
Fort Worth

1401
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:51,000
Drive as well so the idea here again is we want to capture

1402
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,920
any highway or I'm

1403
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,500
sorry suburban corridor and we use a thousand foot again as

1404
01:04:56,500 --> 01:04:57,800
the start but as

1405
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,329
I explained earlier we went back and made sure that we

1406
01:05:00,329 --> 01:05:01,519
weren't impacting any

1407
01:05:01,519 --> 01:05:07,929
existing development or residential development here's a

1408
01:05:07,929 --> 01:05:09,440
here's an example

1409
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:14,420
of how that was done so the one to your left is University

1410
01:05:14,420 --> 01:05:15,840
Drive and again this

1411
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:21,050
area here is looked at or is being being proposed as

1412
01:05:21,050 --> 01:05:22,719
suburban corridor and if

1413
01:05:22,719 --> 01:05:25,849
there was a neighborhood adjacent to it and it is an

1414
01:05:25,849 --> 01:05:27,800
established neighborhood we

1415
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,610
made sure that we went back and made it right and cleaned

1416
01:05:31,610 --> 01:05:32,880
it up and it's more

1417
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,679
obviously better it's not better but it is existing

1418
01:05:36,679 --> 01:05:37,800
established neighborhoods

1419
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:41,820
and they should be zoned the way they are and so that is we

1420
01:05:41,820 --> 01:05:42,079
're going to be

1421
01:05:42,079 --> 01:05:46,829
receiving an R2 because of the conversion that we talked

1422
01:05:46,829 --> 01:05:47,840
about prior

1423
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,840
yes sir commissioner back thank you chair so I'm

1424
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,690
assuming that black line we've seen and we'll actually take

1425
01:05:54,690 --> 01:05:55,599
a dip and go around

1426
01:05:55,599 --> 01:05:58,880
that neighborhood right yeah it will not know that that's

1427
01:05:58,880 --> 01:05:59,360
just to illustrate

1428
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:04,619
where that thousand foot extension was taken to the same

1429
01:06:04,619 --> 01:06:07,039
thing for I-35 we we

1430
01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:11,679
did the the HC and you can see here this is the Southridge

1431
01:06:11,679 --> 01:06:13,000
neighborhood we know

1432
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,190
that that's not going to be to see that's established an

1433
01:06:15,190 --> 01:06:15,639
established

1434
01:06:15,639 --> 01:06:18,309
neighborhood and it's residential so we went and we made

1435
01:06:18,309 --> 01:06:19,360
sure that we zoned it

1436
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:25,219
the way it should be zoned I talked about this somewhat

1437
01:06:25,219 --> 01:06:27,840
earlier PDs the big

1438
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:32,789
one that we know of or as well known as the ropes and range

1439
01:06:32,789 --> 01:06:34,000
plan development

1440
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:39,570
those PDs that we have a total of 15 legal conforming PDs

1441
01:06:39,570 --> 01:06:41,440
will carry forward

1442
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:47,960
as PDs so they will be moved over and will not be altered

1443
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:49,480
or of any way

1444
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:55,610
master plan communities we've got three four technically

1445
01:06:55,610 --> 01:06:57,159
but three coal ranch

1446
01:06:57,159 --> 01:07:02,559
hills of den and hunter ranch those MPCs will be carried

1447
01:07:02,559 --> 01:07:04,719
over as PDs so moving

1448
01:07:04,719 --> 01:07:11,429
forward they will be PDs as part of the draft zoning map

1449
01:07:11,429 --> 01:07:14,039
zoning overlays these

1450
01:07:14,039 --> 01:07:19,019
are different from your special purpose overlay districts

1451
01:07:19,019 --> 01:07:20,440
such as the fry Street

1452
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,630
special purpose overlay district these are zoning overlays

1453
01:07:23,630 --> 01:07:25,119
these are the zoning

1454
01:07:25,119 --> 01:07:28,019
cases that was brought forward to the planning zoning

1455
01:07:28,019 --> 01:07:29,840
Commission and to and

1456
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:34,030
then into to council that is and if there was a restriction

1457
01:07:34,030 --> 01:07:35,159
or a condition

1458
01:07:35,159 --> 01:07:43,329
placed on this zoning case they technically are not the

1459
01:07:43,329 --> 01:07:44,719
true zoning so

1460
01:07:44,719 --> 01:07:48,139
they're referred to as zoning overlays and we have

1461
01:07:48,139 --> 01:07:50,360
approximately 32 of these

1462
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:56,360
currently since 2002 and they will be carried forward as PD

1463
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:57,440
s as part of the

1464
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:01,519
draft zoning map any questions on this one because this

1465
01:08:01,519 --> 01:08:03,280
this provided or had

1466
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,880
some discussion with the advisory committee so I didn't

1467
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:06,559
know I want to

1468
01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:10,730
offer an opportunity for the playing zoning Commission to

1469
01:08:10,730 --> 01:08:14,280
ask questions okay

1470
01:08:16,279 --> 01:08:18,819
I think everybody remembers this one this one I try to find

1471
01:08:18,819 --> 01:08:19,840
one that was

1472
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:24,329
somewhat recent this is the one of Audra where they were

1473
01:08:24,329 --> 01:08:27,420
proposing an NR six

1474
01:08:27,420 --> 01:08:33,000
but truly they needed four point five and so that's that's

1475
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:34,119
the reduction

1476
01:08:34,119 --> 01:08:37,310
Commissioner Smith nature who's gonna keep track of these

1477
01:08:37,310 --> 01:08:37,960
overlays because

1478
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,359
they're all gonna be so different everything else that I

1479
01:08:40,359 --> 01:08:40,920
mean it's it's

1480
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,279
not just even taking like we've got it we got a variation

1481
01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:44,840
or an overlay on an

1482
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,840
R2 or something like that now and then we go in and it's

1483
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:49,840
everything becomes PD

1484
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,659
we don't even see in the signifier of it was it in our two

1485
01:08:52,659 --> 01:08:53,720
or in our four in our

1486
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,779
six with extra little overlays or emissions everything else

1487
01:08:56,779 --> 01:08:57,560
who's keeping

1488
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:01,449
track of it is it written it's it's it's gonna be by

1489
01:09:01,449 --> 01:09:03,039
ordinance so we will have

1490
01:09:03,039 --> 01:09:06,489
that go back through and be able to currently currently

1491
01:09:06,489 --> 01:09:07,880
with the current PDs

1492
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,689
we've got a folder system with each PD sure that identifies

1493
01:09:11,689 --> 01:09:12,920
you know what it is

1494
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,310
their development standards their zoning regulations so the

1495
01:09:16,310 --> 01:09:17,119
ordinance part I get

1496
01:09:17,119 --> 01:09:19,449
I think I think the part I'm more looking at is that if

1497
01:09:19,449 --> 01:09:20,399
there is ever any

1498
01:09:20,399 --> 01:09:23,470
extra development in any of these areas that have an

1499
01:09:23,470 --> 01:09:25,520
overlay on it the current

1500
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,649
system we have now at least gives you just from the outset

1501
01:09:28,649 --> 01:09:29,720
of just being able

1502
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:34,930
to see it's in our two at least gives you some idea of

1503
01:09:34,930 --> 01:09:35,939
knowing at least how

1504
01:09:35,939 --> 01:09:38,569
many how many dwellings per acre and then you can kind of

1505
01:09:38,569 --> 01:09:39,279
figure out the

1506
01:09:39,279 --> 01:09:42,159
overlays from there once you do PD you know in our six with

1507
01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:43,640
overlays and two

1508
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,489
with overlays well no I mean it actually I guess just log

1509
01:09:47,489 --> 01:09:48,319
istically I don't want

1510
01:09:48,319 --> 01:09:51,140
over overburdened city with having to ask right answer a

1511
01:09:51,140 --> 01:09:52,119
bunch of questions

1512
01:09:52,119 --> 01:09:55,729
maybe I'm I think it might be even easier if we put them as

1513
01:09:55,729 --> 01:09:56,439
PDs because if

1514
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,840
you left them as zoning you don't know there's a PD and you

1515
01:09:58,840 --> 01:09:59,680
can assume it's

1516
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,090
this with the PD you can see okay it's not it's gonna have

1517
01:10:02,090 --> 01:10:03,119
an overlay yes you

1518
01:10:03,119 --> 01:10:06,390
know to go to if you click on it in our interactive map you

1519
01:10:06,390 --> 01:10:07,079
can click on an

1520
01:10:07,079 --> 01:10:10,100
existing PD sure it tells you what number it is what name

1521
01:10:10,100 --> 01:10:10,800
it is and then

1522
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,680
you can reference that there's an ordinance number so it

1523
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:14,880
almost helps that

1524
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,069
there is a PD it's a PD versus just a underlying zone

1525
01:10:18,069 --> 01:10:18,899
industry so smart Ron

1526
01:10:18,899 --> 01:10:26,779
thank you okay so the other after we did all that we also

1527
01:10:26,779 --> 01:10:27,760
looked at the preferred

1528
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:32,210
growth concept which is in our didn't plan 2030 our again

1529
01:10:32,210 --> 01:10:33,520
our our vision our

1530
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:37,699
hope is that we try to develop sustainability a sustainable

1531
01:10:37,699 --> 01:10:38,359
with with

1532
01:10:38,359 --> 01:10:41,079
the intent of you know sustaining our resources so we want

1533
01:10:41,079 --> 01:10:42,000
to develop within

1534
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:46,229
the core and then work our way out eventually so any areas

1535
01:10:46,229 --> 01:10:47,560
that were in the

1536
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:52,750
periphery of the city we left or try to leave as rural

1537
01:10:52,750 --> 01:10:54,199
residential our our that's

1538
01:10:54,199 --> 01:10:59,409
the least intense zoning district so similar to what we

1539
01:10:59,409 --> 01:11:01,439
have now is RD 5 they

1540
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,020
will just be our art and again we those are going to be

1541
01:11:04,020 --> 01:11:05,119
those areas that are

1542
01:11:05,119 --> 01:11:11,100
along the periphery of the city we also looked at you know

1543
01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:12,920
areas that we weren't

1544
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:16,500
really familiar with we use aerial photography Google

1545
01:11:16,500 --> 01:11:17,680
Street View and

1546
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:22,180
visited each site so I asked the committee I asked you all

1547
01:11:22,180 --> 01:11:22,800
know where this

1548
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,819
is this is actually University Drive and this is mingo

1549
01:11:25,819 --> 01:11:27,479
right next to the railroad

1550
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,470
does anybody know that this well I guess we weren't as

1551
01:11:31,470 --> 01:11:33,199
familiar with it than as

1552
01:11:33,199 --> 01:11:37,979
you all were so I I didn't know that building was there or

1553
01:11:37,979 --> 01:11:39,399
you know what it

1554
01:11:39,399 --> 01:11:42,590
was and so we had to research it and so we we had to make

1555
01:11:42,590 --> 01:11:43,960
sure that we knew each

1556
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,689
parcel before we put a zoning on it so that's that's to

1557
01:11:46,689 --> 01:11:48,000
show you that there was

1558
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:54,300
there was some time spent doing that city properties city

1559
01:11:54,300 --> 01:11:56,039
properties where

1560
01:11:56,039 --> 01:12:00,210
they made sense that they were the use that's currently on

1561
01:12:00,210 --> 01:12:01,560
that property was

1562
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,199
permitted on in that proposed zoning district we left it as

1563
01:12:05,199 --> 01:12:06,399
is so this is in

1564
01:12:06,399 --> 01:12:10,630
the downtown area the blue here that you see is the square

1565
01:12:10,630 --> 01:12:11,920
and so all this

1566
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,359
property and this is where we are right now this is where

1567
01:12:14,359 --> 01:12:16,399
we're currently at MD

1568
01:12:16,399 --> 01:12:23,550
mixed use downtown is primarily high intensity I can't say

1569
01:12:23,550 --> 01:12:24,760
high density I say

1570
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,800
high intensity because it allows a lot of different uses

1571
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:29,880
and allows for a

1572
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:35,090
certain height maximum and lot coverage as well but the

1573
01:12:35,090 --> 01:12:36,800
uses looking at the

1574
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:41,289
allowed uses it also allowed for the those those type of

1575
01:12:41,289 --> 01:12:42,600
uses in the MD when

1576
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:46,279
we left it empty we didn't change it at all

1577
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:51,630
for larger areas that we feel needs a little bit more

1578
01:12:51,630 --> 01:12:53,000
attention such as the

1579
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:58,680
airport the landfill large DME facilities and so on we have

1580
01:12:58,680 --> 01:12:59,520
the option

1581
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:04,729
or the zoning district called PF plant public facilities

1582
01:13:04,729 --> 01:13:06,000
and again that is

1583
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:10,199
defined as lands that are meant for public and quasi public

1584
01:13:10,199 --> 01:13:11,159
community uses

1585
01:13:11,159 --> 01:13:15,489
and this zoning would apply to and should apply to these

1586
01:13:15,489 --> 01:13:16,600
type or these

1587
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:20,180
areas in the city that the city owns so we have it for

1588
01:13:20,180 --> 01:13:21,840
large areas such as the

1589
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:27,789
airport we also have them for UNT and TW now we're also

1590
01:13:27,789 --> 01:13:29,640
considering an

1591
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:33,840
institutional zoning district for these two universities

1592
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:34,880
that's that's something

1593
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,689
that will most likely come as part of the amendment but for

1594
01:13:38,689 --> 01:13:39,960
now they're zone

1595
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:45,170
SPF Commissioner Roseau thank you chair can you help me

1596
01:13:45,170 --> 01:13:45,680
understand the

1597
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:49,550
rationale of making of their own zoning district when they

1598
01:13:49,550 --> 01:13:50,760
de facto do what they

1599
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:54,590
want anyways we have to give them some zoning district so I

1600
01:13:54,590 --> 01:13:55,880
think institutional

1601
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,909
zoning district that's what that's a good question because

1602
01:13:57,909 --> 01:13:58,399
we thought the

1603
01:13:58,399 --> 01:14:02,970
same thing if they didn't receive any zoning is like we we

1604
01:14:02,970 --> 01:14:04,300
wouldn't have you

1605
01:14:04,300 --> 01:14:06,640
know a designation for them but you're right there is there

1606
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:07,319
they don't have to

1607
01:14:07,319 --> 01:14:12,840
comply with our regs as far as the zoning regulations so

1608
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,000
what would be the

1609
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,640
benefit of having a separate zoning that's used twice in

1610
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:18,800
our city just for

1611
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,800
them I think there may be I don't know if Richard can help

1612
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,560
me with this one part

1613
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:29,680
of it is just to avoid any confusion with the p.l. I have

1614
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,439
seen in in past

1615
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:36,649
cities where where it had a residential designation and

1616
01:14:36,649 --> 01:14:38,039
this particular

1617
01:14:38,039 --> 01:14:40,430
University had a campus plan but they felt as though they

1618
01:14:40,430 --> 01:14:41,079
had they were

1619
01:14:41,079 --> 01:14:44,500
entitled as a result of the zoning for a certain amount of

1620
01:14:44,500 --> 01:14:46,239
density not the case

1621
01:14:46,239 --> 01:14:48,869
here since we don't have density but all in all it's I

1622
01:14:48,869 --> 01:14:50,020
think it's it's just

1623
01:14:50,020 --> 01:14:53,310
better to capture them as their own ideally it would be to

1624
01:14:53,310 --> 01:14:54,159
have a master

1625
01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:57,260
plan but I think at that point it would just defer to that

1626
01:14:57,260 --> 01:14:58,359
for whatever whatever

1627
01:14:58,359 --> 01:15:01,430
they do yeah that makes sense thank you I'd have a follow-

1628
01:15:01,430 --> 01:15:02,880
up question on that

1629
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,689
you say if I should are they're gonna become a separate

1630
01:15:06,689 --> 01:15:08,800
zoning category yes

1631
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:12,680
we're thinking of adding a zoning district called just

1632
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:13,319
institutional

1633
01:15:13,319 --> 01:15:17,590
zoning district for the universities and all these other

1634
01:15:17,590 --> 01:15:18,960
properties those are the

1635
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,770
properties that the University of North Texas currently

1636
01:15:22,770 --> 01:15:24,560
owns yes so with the

1637
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:28,800
with the rules that all the other zoning categories have to

1638
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:30,039
meet then if I heard

1639
01:15:30,039 --> 01:15:33,270
you right these don't have to meet those same categories or

1640
01:15:33,270 --> 01:15:34,560
requirements the

1641
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:42,060
University the institutional one here didn't I see doesn't

1642
01:15:42,060 --> 01:15:43,439
fall under

1643
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,939
institutional just DST would be under public facilities

1644
01:15:46,939 --> 01:15:47,800
just the first two

1645
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:52,399
yeah just these two okay I misunderstood I just thought all

1646
01:15:52,399 --> 01:15:53,239
of those were going

1647
01:15:53,239 --> 01:15:57,079
into oh no no no no those those my mistake misunderstanding

1648
01:15:57,079 --> 01:15:57,279
yeah

1649
01:15:57,279 --> 01:16:02,260
apologies Commissioner Smith nature if they acquire new

1650
01:16:02,260 --> 01:16:04,000
land after we go

1651
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:07,810
through to a reason rezone that's technically go through a

1652
01:16:07,810 --> 01:16:08,479
zoning change

1653
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,159
then if they let's say they go buy something that's just

1654
01:16:11,159 --> 01:16:11,960
they think they

1655
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,789
sorry they would they would have that would that come in

1656
01:16:14,789 --> 01:16:15,479
front of us we would

1657
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,250
just vote on that because zoning change technically or what

1658
01:16:18,250 --> 01:16:18,279
would that go be

1659
01:16:18,279 --> 01:16:20,539
automatic when they purchase it it will be up to them to

1660
01:16:20,539 --> 01:16:21,479
decide if they want to

1661
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:25,430
rezone it or just keep it as this so it's it's it's it

1662
01:16:25,430 --> 01:16:27,119
makes it simple for us

1663
01:16:27,119 --> 01:16:32,000
right now right but if they grow and they acquire any type

1664
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:33,399
of the property it

1665
01:16:33,399 --> 01:16:37,520
we did be complicated again at some point if I can just say

1666
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:38,159
you know another

1667
01:16:38,159 --> 01:16:40,189
and I was thinking about this actually earlier it's kind of

1668
01:16:40,189 --> 01:16:41,800
funny one way we we

1669
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,619
might want to consider and just sort of talk it out more

1670
01:16:44,619 --> 01:16:45,720
with legal is there's

1671
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,899
kind of the concept of a floating zone so whether this

1672
01:16:48,899 --> 01:16:50,020
becomes sort of a

1673
01:16:50,020 --> 01:16:52,920
floating zone and as they acquire property just become sort

1674
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:53,319
of self

1675
01:16:53,319 --> 01:16:56,760
executing again I want to talk that over with with legal

1676
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:57,960
whether that's even a

1677
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,310
possibility but I think it's just sort of looking at at

1678
01:17:00,310 --> 01:17:01,439
those options or sort of

1679
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:06,760
every quarter do we do a true up of properties of David

1680
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,319
Clark yeah I think

1681
01:17:08,319 --> 01:17:10,819
it's also to understand where they're they obviously have a

1682
01:17:10,819 --> 01:17:11,479
plan of how they

1683
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:14,630
want to sure I guess I guess for me it was more to not have

1684
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:15,840
to bog us down as

1685
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,649
a as a as a commission to not to come to the see it's a

1686
01:17:19,649 --> 01:17:21,119
here have Haley get

1687
01:17:21,119 --> 01:17:23,149
there and talk for ten minutes about why we're gonna reason

1688
01:17:23,149 --> 01:17:23,560
on it and it just

1689
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:29,279
like I was just going on it sorry for picking on you Haley

1690
01:17:29,279 --> 01:17:31,680
one follow-up on that on the

1691
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:35,800
on the reverse is true though - these entities do sell

1692
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:37,680
properties they do come

1693
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,699
so what would be the zoning or how would you handle going

1694
01:17:41,699 --> 01:17:43,760
from institutional that

1695
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,689
there there is no zoning on that parcel so for example like

1696
01:17:46,689 --> 01:17:47,560
the city of debt

1697
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,409
parcel that's for sale here on Locust Street I bought

1698
01:17:50,409 --> 01:17:51,920
property from DISD

1699
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:58,680
before if it's institutional so TISD would would not be the

1700
01:17:58,680 --> 01:17:59,319
institutional it

1701
01:17:59,319 --> 01:18:02,039
would be there's just the universities I guess I'm still

1702
01:18:02,039 --> 01:18:03,399
yeah sorry I'm having a

1703
01:18:03,399 --> 01:18:08,270
hard time with it got wrote written in stone and it doesn't

1704
01:18:08,270 --> 01:18:10,439
come out right actually

1705
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,170
if I can just give another another example because this is

1706
01:18:13,170 --> 01:18:14,239
a real example

1707
01:18:14,239 --> 01:18:19,479
TWU in this case probably wouldn't want to rezone to

1708
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,319
institutional they've

1709
01:18:21,319 --> 01:18:24,359
acquired it was a piece of property they acquired to to

1710
01:18:24,359 --> 01:18:25,880
build apartments for the

1711
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:29,460
students so in that case they kept it but they were

1712
01:18:29,460 --> 01:18:30,199
contracting out with a

1713
01:18:30,199 --> 01:18:32,680
different party to sort of build and manage that so in that

1714
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:33,359
case they kept

1715
01:18:33,359 --> 01:18:36,039
the the zoning and went and are going through through our

1716
01:18:36,039 --> 01:18:37,600
site plan process so

1717
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:41,729
in that regard we may want to have them rezone or again I

1718
01:18:41,729 --> 01:18:43,720
think there's other we

1719
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,739
can look at it as as we move forward but part of it is to

1720
01:18:46,739 --> 01:18:47,600
sort of try to

1721
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,869
understand also what what their long-term plans are

1722
01:18:51,869 --> 01:18:53,199
Commissioner Osello

1723
01:18:53,199 --> 01:18:57,119
I'm gonna restate chairs question a little bit differently

1724
01:18:57,119 --> 01:18:58,399
the public

1725
01:18:58,399 --> 01:19:01,699
facilities can sell and what would that zoning would just

1726
01:19:01,699 --> 01:19:02,800
be public facilities

1727
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,949
until the new property owner came back through the rezone

1728
01:19:05,949 --> 01:19:09,600
yes okay and a lot of

1729
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:14,039
I did speak with DISD the county text I mean text on and DC

1730
01:19:14,039 --> 01:19:15,039
T a you know

1731
01:19:15,039 --> 01:19:18,300
individually and I told them this is what is happening and

1732
01:19:18,300 --> 01:19:18,720
they were

1733
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:22,239
comfortable with what we were proposing for example DISD

1734
01:19:22,239 --> 01:19:23,359
the schools are

1735
01:19:23,359 --> 01:19:26,180
permitted in all zoning district from majority except for

1736
01:19:26,180 --> 01:19:28,399
like the HI the L I

1737
01:19:28,399 --> 01:19:31,829
so you don't want schools in those areas so we did we did

1738
01:19:31,829 --> 01:19:33,279
talk to these agencies

1739
01:19:33,279 --> 01:19:38,060
before we made this public I know we have a couple minutes

1740
01:19:38,060 --> 01:19:39,439
left this is

1741
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,630
probably the more important slide but I just wanted to

1742
01:19:41,630 --> 01:19:43,000
share this with you really

1743
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:48,399
quickly we have approximately 38,496 parcels in the city

1744
01:19:48,399 --> 01:19:49,800
and we did an

1745
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:55,039
analysis where we took a parcel and if it went from an R4

1746
01:19:55,039 --> 01:19:56,479
with the conversion

1747
01:19:56,479 --> 01:20:02,039
and we zoned it on R2 for because of maybe consistency or

1748
01:20:02,039 --> 01:20:03,680
compatibility that

1749
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:08,890
is considered a zoning down and vice versa if we saw an LI

1750
01:20:08,890 --> 01:20:10,439
and probably more

1751
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:15,069
suitable for an HI that would be a zoning up so we did that

1752
01:20:15,069 --> 01:20:15,479
we did that

1753
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,909
conversion we did that analysis and we came up with

1754
01:20:18,909 --> 01:20:21,680
approximately 2800 parcels

1755
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,800
that are being zoning up being zoned up in about 1800 are

1756
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:25,720
gonna be zoned down

1757
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:30,930
now out of 38,000 that's pretty good that tells us that the

1758
01:20:30,930 --> 01:20:31,680
majority of these

1759
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:36,680
parcels are being converted to the zoning district that

1760
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:37,880
they either are or

1761
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:42,020
roughly are so and not not a big change so just give you

1762
01:20:42,020 --> 01:20:44,199
guys an insight of what

1763
01:20:44,199 --> 01:20:48,329
that number is or how we're how we've done our our zoning

1764
01:20:48,329 --> 01:20:50,159
map update so that

1765
01:20:50,159 --> 01:20:53,159
concludes my presentation unless there's anything else I

1766
01:20:53,159 --> 01:20:55,359
appreciate the time

1767
01:20:55,359 --> 01:21:00,760
thank you Ron and just one quick note we'll have a standing

1768
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:02,520
work session item

1769
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:06,109
so that we can update the Commission on the actions of the

1770
01:21:06,109 --> 01:21:07,279
committee and what's

1771
01:21:07,279 --> 01:21:12,260
being presented and where we're going great thank you with

1772
01:21:12,260 --> 01:21:13,600
that I'll close our

1773
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:17,479
work session at 629 and we'll reconvene as quickly as

1774
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:18,439
possible in council

1775
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:25,399
chambers good evening and welcome to the city of Denton

1776
01:21:25,399 --> 01:21:26,359
planning and zoning

1777
01:21:26,359 --> 01:21:31,340
Commission meeting for April the 11th 2018 this meeting's

1778
01:21:31,340 --> 01:21:32,520
been duly posted and

1779
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:36,470
we do have a quorum present and we'll call us to order at 6

1780
01:21:36,470 --> 01:21:38,199
37 our first order

1781
01:21:38,199 --> 01:21:40,760
of business will be to stand and give the pledge the US and

1782
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,560
the Texas flags

1783
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,069
honor the Texas flag I pledge allegiance to the Texas one

1784
01:22:04,069 --> 01:22:11,159
state under God one

1785
01:22:11,159 --> 01:22:14,159
and indivisible

1786
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,479
our next order of business will be to consider a motion for

1787
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:28,640
our minutes for

1788
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:33,319
March the 21st 2018 Commissioner Smith I'm most to approve

1789
01:22:33,319 --> 01:22:34,680
okay Mr. Beck

1790
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:38,720
second okay we have a first and a second for approval any

1791
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,439
comments or questions

1792
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:45,760
seeing none to call for a vote on the board

1793
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:12,970
oh most is going to carry five zero with two abstain and we

1794
01:23:12,970 --> 01:23:15,880
'll move us to our

1795
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:22,699
consent agenda Commissioner Beck I move we approve consent

1796
01:23:22,699 --> 01:23:23,520
agenda okay

1797
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:27,109
Commissioner Smith second that motion okay we have a first

1798
01:23:27,109 --> 01:23:28,840
and a second for approval any

1799
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:35,600
discussion seeing none call for a vote on board

1800
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:49,149
most is going to carry seven zero I will move us to item

1801
01:23:49,149 --> 01:23:51,800
for a individual

1802
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:56,520
consideration call on Haley for presentation

1803
01:24:04,239 --> 01:24:08,050
good evening this request is for an alternative development

1804
01:24:08,050 --> 01:24:08,359
plan for a

1805
01:24:08,359 --> 01:24:12,159
tractor dealership and repair facility the request for this

1806
01:24:12,159 --> 01:24:12,960
alternative

1807
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,529
development plan is to specifically deviate from the

1808
01:24:15,529 --> 01:24:16,680
perimeter fencing and

1809
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,380
screening requirements and then the parking screening

1810
01:24:19,380 --> 01:24:20,520
requirements found in

1811
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:24,789
subchapter 13 of the Ditten Development Code the site is

1812
01:24:24,789 --> 01:24:26,239
part of a larger

1813
01:24:26,239 --> 01:24:29,210
tract of land located on I-35 the property has been

1814
01:24:29,210 --> 01:24:30,359
preliminary platted

1815
01:24:30,359 --> 01:24:33,460
not yet final platted to separate this into two lots this

1816
01:24:33,460 --> 01:24:34,920
ADP specifically

1817
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,840
applies to the northern 5.4 acres of the site and the

1818
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:40,279
property is currently zoned

1819
01:24:40,279 --> 01:24:46,000
regional center commercial commercial downtown looking at

1820
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,680
the site you can see

1821
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:51,260
they have approximately a 20,000 square foot building in

1822
01:24:51,260 --> 01:24:52,560
the roughly the middle

1823
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,750
of the site that's outland here in yellow in blue you see

1824
01:24:55,750 --> 01:24:56,760
the designated

1825
01:24:56,760 --> 01:25:00,569
parking areas and the area in green is a large detention

1826
01:25:00,569 --> 01:25:02,119
pond overall the site

1827
01:25:02,119 --> 01:25:08,159
has 71% lot coverage 29% landscaping and 63 parking spaces

1828
01:25:08,159 --> 01:25:09,560
as I mentioned

1829
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,000
briefly at work session the city is in some discussions

1830
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:13,039
regarding the future

1831
01:25:13,039 --> 01:25:16,140
alignment of Windsor the general location of parking and

1832
01:25:16,140 --> 01:25:16,920
this detention

1833
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:20,479
pond could shift but the requested items tonight in terms

1834
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:21,680
of the fencing and

1835
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:25,279
screening would not be affected by that

1836
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:29,409
specifically the request the first item is to permit a

1837
01:25:29,409 --> 01:25:30,960
chain link fencing

1838
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,409
material currently this isn't a permitted fence material in

1839
01:25:33,409 --> 01:25:33,800
the code

1840
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:37,100
what the applicants requesting on the side and rear yards

1841
01:25:37,100 --> 01:25:38,359
is an eight foot tall

1842
01:25:38,359 --> 01:25:42,460
black vinyl coated chain link fence they're also proposing

1843
01:25:42,460 --> 01:25:43,380
to plant trees

1844
01:25:43,380 --> 01:25:47,189
along that fence on the side yards to further screen it the

1845
01:25:47,189 --> 01:25:48,319
second request is

1846
01:25:48,319 --> 01:25:51,199
for a front fence that will exceed the three and a half

1847
01:25:51,199 --> 01:25:52,319
foot maximum in the

1848
01:25:52,319 --> 01:25:55,359
code what they've proposed is a six foot tall ornamental wr

1849
01:25:55,359 --> 01:25:56,079
ought iron fence

1850
01:25:56,079 --> 01:26:00,470
along the front property line and then the third item when

1851
01:26:00,470 --> 01:26:01,800
you have parking in

1852
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:05,609
front of a building the code requires a 15 foot wide area

1853
01:26:05,609 --> 01:26:06,920
that is to include a

1854
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,970
berm one large tree per every 40 linear feet and then

1855
01:26:09,970 --> 01:26:11,640
either zero scaping hedges

1856
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:16,850
or a continuous wall to enhance their display visibility

1857
01:26:16,850 --> 01:26:17,560
from the street the

1858
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:20,479
applicant is proposing to not provide the screening yard

1859
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:21,680
there are they are

1860
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,090
proposing to include all of those required landscaping

1861
01:26:24,090 --> 01:26:24,920
elements for that

1862
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,539
area and have them in alternative locations on the site

1863
01:26:27,539 --> 01:26:28,260
that we'll see

1864
01:26:28,260 --> 01:26:32,840
here in a moment so looking at the fencing requirements the

1865
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:33,600
yellowish

1866
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:37,520
orange color is the location for the black eight foot chain

1867
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:38,520
link fence you

1868
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,399
can see here they do have trees proposed along the sides of

1869
01:26:41,399 --> 01:26:42,000
that to further

1870
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,819
screen the parts that would be visible from the road and

1871
01:26:44,819 --> 01:26:45,760
then the area in red

1872
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:49,399
is the location for that six foot tall wrought iron fence

1873
01:26:49,399 --> 01:26:50,359
they're requested

1874
01:26:50,359 --> 01:26:53,720
along the frontage and to further elaborate on that the wr

1875
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:54,399
ought iron

1876
01:26:54,399 --> 01:26:57,880
fencing is like I said proposed for security because this

1877
01:26:57,880 --> 01:26:58,960
is a display yard

1878
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:02,329
here in the front it would have gates here on the access

1879
01:27:02,329 --> 01:27:03,439
drives to allow

1880
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:06,250
traffic in and out of the site but its primary purpose

1881
01:27:06,250 --> 01:27:07,439
would be for security

1882
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:10,189
and to still allow visibility of the site and it is

1883
01:27:10,189 --> 01:27:11,640
generally consistent with

1884
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,449
other fences that you would see along this part of the

1885
01:27:14,449 --> 01:27:15,800
service road on I-35

1886
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,949
from our research those other fences in this area predate

1887
01:27:18,949 --> 01:27:20,119
the code requirements

1888
01:27:20,119 --> 01:27:23,930
so that's how they were permitted at a taller height

1889
01:27:23,930 --> 01:27:25,359
looking at this in a little

1890
01:27:25,359 --> 01:27:28,180
more detail the dark green areas are the areas where they

1891
01:27:28,180 --> 01:27:29,359
're providing trees to

1892
01:27:29,359 --> 01:27:32,409
help screen the fencing as we discussed and then the

1893
01:27:32,409 --> 01:27:34,119
lighter green areas you see

1894
01:27:34,119 --> 01:27:36,489
here all of the required street trees and parking lot

1895
01:27:36,489 --> 01:27:37,640
screening trees as well

1896
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,470
as the shrubs that would have made up that continuous hed

1897
01:27:40,470 --> 01:27:41,680
gerow are all

1898
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,560
provided in these areas you see them clustered around the

1899
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:45,319
two main drive

1900
01:27:45,319 --> 01:27:47,779
entries to the site and then a few of the trees have been

1901
01:27:47,779 --> 01:27:48,760
provided along the

1902
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,720
back part of the property and in addition to the required

1903
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:52,600
plantings they

1904
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,939
are proposing eight additional street trees as well to

1905
01:27:54,939 --> 01:27:55,960
further enhance these

1906
01:27:55,960 --> 01:28:01,720
entries to the site so with an ADP we always like to look

1907
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:02,239
back at what the

1908
01:28:02,239 --> 01:28:04,920
intent of the code requirements are the DDCs fencing

1909
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:06,359
requirements are meant to

1910
01:28:06,359 --> 01:28:10,159
ensure high quality you know long durability fencing

1911
01:28:10,159 --> 01:28:12,159
materials and then

1912
01:28:12,159 --> 01:28:15,460
specifically within our residential and mixed-use districts

1913
01:28:15,460 --> 01:28:16,760
we have that limited

1914
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:19,149
height requirement to ensure that the buildings and you

1915
01:28:19,149 --> 01:28:20,079
know the entire site

1916
01:28:20,079 --> 01:28:23,270
is still visible from the right-of-way with our parking lot

1917
01:28:23,270 --> 01:28:24,119
screening the intent

1918
01:28:24,119 --> 01:28:27,039
there is muting the visual effects of parking from the

1919
01:28:27,039 --> 01:28:28,359
right-of-way so that as

1920
01:28:28,359 --> 01:28:30,699
you drive down the street you have you know a visually

1921
01:28:30,699 --> 01:28:32,079
appealing street front

1922
01:28:32,079 --> 01:28:34,180
edge and there's no light or glare from the parking lots

1923
01:28:34,180 --> 01:28:35,079
interfering with the

1924
01:28:35,079 --> 01:28:40,289
roadway so to go briefly through the criteria for approval

1925
01:28:40,289 --> 01:28:41,159
for an ADP the

1926
01:28:41,159 --> 01:28:43,699
first is preservation of existing neighborhoods it's not

1927
01:28:43,699 --> 01:28:44,560
anticipated that

1928
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:46,920
this would negatively affect the surrounding area it is

1929
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:47,760
consistent with

1930
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,109
the other development specifically to the north there are

1931
01:28:50,109 --> 01:28:50,960
several other large

1932
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,359
RV sales facilities and then south there's a mixture of

1933
01:28:54,359 --> 01:28:55,079
institutional and

1934
01:28:55,079 --> 01:28:59,409
commercial uses this request would not necessarily lower

1935
01:28:59,409 --> 01:29:00,479
the site design

1936
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,380
standards in the Denton Development Code they're intended

1937
01:29:03,380 --> 01:29:04,479
to provide enhanced

1938
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:08,319
security and visibility for the site in terms of focusing

1939
01:29:08,319 --> 01:29:09,840
new development and

1940
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:13,300
activity centers what we see here is typical highway scale

1941
01:29:13,300 --> 01:29:14,199
development this is

1942
01:29:14,199 --> 01:29:17,500
a regional zoning a regional commercial center by zoning

1943
01:29:17,500 --> 01:29:19,399
and future land use and

1944
01:29:19,399 --> 01:29:21,890
this use would be something that we would expect to have a

1945
01:29:21,890 --> 01:29:22,840
regional customer

1946
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:27,359
base that fits with that infrastructure is not a concern

1947
01:29:27,359 --> 01:29:28,359
here there is existing

1948
01:29:28,359 --> 01:29:30,829
infrastructure in terms of roadways water and sewer

1949
01:29:30,829 --> 01:29:31,920
available to the site

1950
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,970
and the end result here would still be a high quality

1951
01:29:35,970 --> 01:29:37,920
development that would

1952
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,250
generally meet the intent of the code by providing the

1953
01:29:41,250 --> 01:29:42,640
screening for that chain

1954
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,289
link fencing and vinyl coating it they would reduce you

1955
01:29:45,289 --> 01:29:46,239
know the the reflective

1956
01:29:46,239 --> 01:29:50,550
typical material see with chain link and they are providing

1957
01:29:50,550 --> 01:29:51,880
a non-opaque high

1958
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:54,689
quality fence along the frontage as well the height is

1959
01:29:54,689 --> 01:29:55,840
higher for security

1960
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:59,039
purposes but the material itself is a permitted high

1961
01:29:59,039 --> 01:30:00,760
quality material and then

1962
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:02,859
in terms of parking lot screening as I mentioned they are

1963
01:30:02,859 --> 01:30:03,680
providing all of the

1964
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,750
required elements just in alternate locations on the site

1965
01:30:06,750 --> 01:30:07,680
and they are also

1966
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:11,479
providing those additional eight trees so with that staff

1967
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:12,479
is recommending

1968
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:14,510
approval of the request because we found it to meet all of

1969
01:30:14,510 --> 01:30:15,939
these criteria and I

1970
01:30:15,939 --> 01:30:18,359
could stand for any questions do you have a question

1971
01:30:18,359 --> 01:30:19,479
Commissioner Beck thank

1972
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:23,289
you chair Haley just for clarification again can you go

1973
01:30:23,289 --> 01:30:24,319
back to the diagram the

1974
01:30:24,319 --> 01:30:32,960
site location show us that the Google yeah okay so when you

1975
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:33,800
're talking about

1976
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:37,380
this is one tract of land but it's gonna be in two

1977
01:30:37,380 --> 01:30:39,760
different lots yes there is a

1978
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:42,949
preliminary plan that's been approved it would split the

1979
01:30:42,949 --> 01:30:44,119
lot into two pieces

1980
01:30:44,119 --> 01:30:46,939
this would be the northern roughly five and a half acres

1981
01:30:46,939 --> 01:30:48,000
and then there would be

1982
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:51,189
a second lot okay okay and I don't know why that wasn't

1983
01:30:51,189 --> 01:30:52,159
clear to me before so

1984
01:30:52,159 --> 01:30:55,149
we're basically building in that area where the least

1985
01:30:55,149 --> 01:30:56,279
amount of trees are

1986
01:30:56,279 --> 01:30:59,239
right now correct yes is what you're doing and that is the

1987
01:30:59,239 --> 01:31:00,560
five point three

1988
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:07,039
eight acres yes what is the total acreage for the whole I'm

1989
01:31:07,039 --> 01:31:08,840
guessing 11

1990
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,119
maybe

1991
01:31:13,119 --> 01:31:17,460
I believe the other lot is just over two acres but I want

1992
01:31:17,460 --> 01:31:20,199
to confirm that yes I

1993
01:31:20,199 --> 01:31:23,500
believe the totals about seven point one acres okay so they

1994
01:31:23,500 --> 01:31:24,720
're using about five

1995
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,609
and a half and then be a remainder of about two so when we

1996
01:31:27,609 --> 01:31:28,520
're talking about

1997
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:33,500
putting fencing on that I guess it'd be the south end to

1998
01:31:33,500 --> 01:31:35,119
kind of obscure the

1999
01:31:35,119 --> 01:31:40,579
view in there actually it's gonna be covered up by a couple

2000
01:31:40,579 --> 01:31:42,880
of acres so yes

2001
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:46,930
why is the fencing even an issue as far as a barrier of

2002
01:31:46,930 --> 01:31:48,880
some kind is that where

2003
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:51,779
the roads gonna run through and no the code doesn't permit

2004
01:31:51,779 --> 01:31:52,960
chain-link material

2005
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:58,170
at all it's not a man material yeah but you talk about

2006
01:31:58,170 --> 01:31:59,279
trees and bushes being

2007
01:31:59,279 --> 01:32:04,680
planted to landscaping on that south end to cover the view

2008
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:05,199
of the chain link

2009
01:32:05,199 --> 01:32:09,279
fence but can we even really see it if there's two acres

2010
01:32:09,279 --> 01:32:10,279
roughly two acres

2011
01:32:10,279 --> 01:32:13,239
south of that once that sites developed it probably wouldn

2012
01:32:13,239 --> 01:32:14,279
't be visible no but

2013
01:32:14,279 --> 01:32:17,119
in the meantime it would provide that additional screening

2014
01:32:17,119 --> 01:32:18,560
and okay they're

2015
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:21,039
using that to meet all of their other tree and landscaping

2016
01:32:21,039 --> 01:32:22,520
requirements as well

2017
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:29,479
okay thank you any other questions for Haley

2018
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:33,670
thank you Amy I believe the applicant is here if you had

2019
01:32:33,670 --> 01:32:34,479
any questions for them

2020
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:38,289
as well this is an item for individual consideration and if

2021
01:32:38,289 --> 01:32:38,920
there's anyone who

2022
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:41,579
would like to speak on this item especially the applicant

2023
01:32:41,579 --> 01:32:42,279
you're welcome

2024
01:32:42,279 --> 01:32:45,479
to come forward this time

2025
01:32:49,060 --> 01:32:54,039
my name is Richard Mason I'm with icon consulting group I

2026
01:32:54,039 --> 01:32:56,239
am the project

2027
01:32:56,239 --> 01:33:00,140
architect on it and I appreciate your time to speak this

2028
01:33:00,140 --> 01:33:01,640
evening we have been

2029
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:05,630
through quite a bit of give-and-take with Haley and her

2030
01:33:05,630 --> 01:33:06,960
group to to get to

2031
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:10,539
this point and as most of you know where the current

2032
01:33:10,539 --> 01:33:12,079
location of Zimmer or

2033
01:33:12,079 --> 01:33:16,340
Kubota is they're busting at the seams and ready to get to

2034
01:33:16,340 --> 01:33:18,359
a bigger site you know to

2035
01:33:18,359 --> 01:33:22,560
expand and and get into a nicer building that kind of thing

2036
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:23,239
and so that's

2037
01:33:23,239 --> 01:33:27,689
basically the whole development there and and what we're

2038
01:33:27,689 --> 01:33:29,359
asking for again we're

2039
01:33:29,359 --> 01:33:33,000
trying to meet the intent of what in working with Haley and

2040
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:34,159
the intent of the

2041
01:33:34,159 --> 01:33:37,960
code with the materials and those types of things

2042
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:39,640
recognizing that the front of

2043
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,970
this is going to be a display area for various types of

2044
01:33:42,970 --> 01:33:44,439
equipment that Zimmer

2045
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:49,649
sells and and so and then the security issue of being in a

2046
01:33:49,649 --> 01:33:51,239
transient zone that

2047
01:33:51,239 --> 01:33:53,810
are along the highway those are the main two things that we

2048
01:33:53,810 --> 01:33:54,760
're trying to to

2049
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,989
accomplish keep the site secure but also keep it

2050
01:33:57,989 --> 01:33:59,800
individually pleasing and

2051
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:06,250
architecturally aesthetically pleasing space in short I'll

2052
01:34:06,250 --> 01:34:06,840
keep it short but

2053
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:12,670
that's basically what our agenda is okay any questions for

2054
01:34:12,670 --> 01:34:14,720
the applicant thank

2055
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:17,880
you for coming out thank you for your time you bet sir

2056
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:25,890
anybody else want to speak on this item seeing none chair

2057
01:34:25,890 --> 01:34:27,399
entertaining motion

2058
01:34:27,399 --> 01:34:32,039
discussion Commissioner Ellis thank you chair I'm gonna

2059
01:34:32,039 --> 01:34:34,680
move to approve ADP 17

2060
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:41,680
for Commissioner Beck second first and second any further

2061
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:42,279
discussion or

2062
01:34:42,279 --> 01:34:50,159
comments I'll make a quick comment just say so good to see

2063
01:34:50,159 --> 01:34:51,319
a local company do

2064
01:34:51,319 --> 01:34:55,130
well and glad that you all are going to be able to stay in

2065
01:34:55,130 --> 01:34:56,399
town and expand and

2066
01:34:56,399 --> 01:35:00,380
continue to run your business here congratulations with

2067
01:35:00,380 --> 01:35:01,560
that call for a

2068
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:11,289
vote on the board motion carries seven zero good luck with

2069
01:35:11,289 --> 01:35:15,239
your project that

2070
01:35:15,239 --> 01:35:18,670
will move us to well before I go to 4b I want to make this

2071
01:35:18,670 --> 01:35:19,319
a general

2072
01:35:19,319 --> 01:35:23,739
announcement on our agenda I've got a couple people here in

2073
01:35:23,739 --> 01:35:25,000
the room let

2074
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:28,329
everyone know that in our public hearing sections item 5a

2075
01:35:28,329 --> 01:35:30,840
has been withdrawn so

2076
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:33,409
if you're waiting for that item it has been withdrawn and

2077
01:35:33,409 --> 01:35:34,199
it's going to be

2078
01:35:34,199 --> 01:35:36,800
renoticed so do want to let you all know that if any of you

2079
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:37,920
are waiting for that

2080
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:44,310
item that will move us on to item 4b and I'm going to rec

2081
01:35:44,310 --> 01:35:45,560
use myself on this item

2082
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:49,010
due to the fact that I was in a part of the partnership

2083
01:35:49,010 --> 01:35:50,600
that owned this property

2084
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:53,670
originally and has sold it several years ago to the present

2085
01:35:53,670 --> 01:35:54,479
owner and so I'm

2086
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:57,670
going to recuse myself on this item and I'll yield to the

2087
01:35:57,670 --> 01:35:58,920
vice chair on this

2088
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:03,229
item thank you chair for item 4b I'll call Haley for

2089
01:36:03,229 --> 01:36:08,720
presentation good evening

2090
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:11,729
this item is a site plan request for a medical office

2091
01:36:11,729 --> 01:36:13,079
building in the razor

2092
01:36:13,079 --> 01:36:18,289
branch overlay district so specifically this is for a

2093
01:36:18,289 --> 01:36:19,640
medical office on lot 1

2094
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:23,520
block 4 of the razor ranch south edition you can see the

2095
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:25,039
property here outlined

2096
01:36:25,039 --> 01:36:29,649
in red it's total of just over four acres it's located

2097
01:36:29,649 --> 01:36:30,640
along the I-35

2098
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:34,430
frontage road scripture currently runs on the south side of

2099
01:36:34,430 --> 01:36:35,199
the property on the

2100
01:36:35,199 --> 01:36:38,260
north will be the future extension of panhandle drive that

2101
01:36:38,260 --> 01:36:39,399
's being extended as

2102
01:36:39,399 --> 01:36:43,899
part of the razor ranch development within the overlay

2103
01:36:43,899 --> 01:36:45,760
district this lot

2104
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:49,560
specifically is located within the south mixed-use district

2105
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:50,479
we've discussed

2106
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:53,010
previously that there haven't been design standards

2107
01:36:53,010 --> 01:36:53,920
developed for the

2108
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:57,520
majority of the south mixed-use district but this specific

2109
01:36:57,520 --> 01:36:58,560
lot did have an

2110
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,609
amendment to the overlay passed in 2011 that adopted a site

2111
01:37:01,609 --> 01:37:02,720
design standard just

2112
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:06,359
for this lot and as you're familiar with these site plans

2113
01:37:06,359 --> 01:37:07,439
for razor ranch

2114
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:09,710
require submittal of a site plan landscape plan and

2115
01:37:09,710 --> 01:37:10,760
building elevations

2116
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:15,609
for your consideration the criteria for approval generally

2117
01:37:15,609 --> 01:37:16,439
are that the site

2118
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:19,260
can comply with the concept and schematic plan that we just

2119
01:37:19,260 --> 01:37:19,800
looked at

2120
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:23,189
that the site provide for compatible arrangement of

2121
01:37:23,189 --> 01:37:24,720
buildings and uses to not

2122
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:28,529
net negatively impact adjoining properties that there be

2123
01:37:28,529 --> 01:37:29,359
adequate and

2124
01:37:29,359 --> 01:37:31,859
safe circulation of vehicular traffic and that the site

2125
01:37:31,859 --> 01:37:32,920
comply with all other

2126
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:37,710
aspects of the overlay so we'll look at the site plan here

2127
01:37:37,710 --> 01:37:39,079
the proposed building

2128
01:37:39,079 --> 01:37:44,319
is 22,000 square feet this is intended to be phase one of a

2129
01:37:44,319 --> 01:37:45,199
larger development

2130
01:37:45,199 --> 01:37:47,630
so you can see they're generally developing the southern

2131
01:37:47,630 --> 01:37:48,279
half of the lot

2132
01:37:48,279 --> 01:37:52,289
the intent would be to develop another medical office or

2133
01:37:52,289 --> 01:37:53,640
similar use on the

2134
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:56,189
north part of this property to make one larger development

2135
01:37:56,189 --> 01:37:56,840
that would be

2136
01:37:56,840 --> 01:38:01,109
interconnected for this phase they're providing 110 parking

2137
01:38:01,109 --> 01:38:02,119
spaces which is

2138
01:38:02,119 --> 01:38:05,930
the exact requirement based on the parking ratios in our

2139
01:38:05,930 --> 01:38:06,960
code of one space

2140
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:10,960
for 200 square feet of office and you can see here access

2141
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:12,300
to the site would be

2142
01:38:12,300 --> 01:38:15,880
provided on the south side from a single driveway along

2143
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:17,920
scripture Street based on

2144
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:19,960
the drive aisles and their parking lot they do intend to

2145
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:21,239
interconnect so that

2146
01:38:21,239 --> 01:38:23,710
eventually when the northern half develops there will also

2147
01:38:23,710 --> 01:38:24,239
be access to

2148
01:38:24,239 --> 01:38:27,729
the site from panhandle and they also have cross-connect

2149
01:38:27,729 --> 01:38:29,159
ivity to the existing

2150
01:38:29,159 --> 01:38:33,800
medical facility east of this property looking at the

2151
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:35,640
landscaping they have

2152
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:37,899
exceeded all of the landscape requirements in the razor

2153
01:38:37,899 --> 01:38:38,720
ranch overlay

2154
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:42,529
for this particular lot a total of 22 percent landscape or

2155
01:38:42,529 --> 01:38:43,039
20 percent

2156
01:38:43,039 --> 01:38:46,850
landscaping was required they're providing 22 and then

2157
01:38:46,850 --> 01:38:47,279
specifically

2158
01:38:47,279 --> 01:38:50,119
within the parking lot they were required 22 percent tree

2159
01:38:50,119 --> 01:38:50,880
canopy and 10

2160
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:55,090
percent landscaping so they have exceeded those numbers the

2161
01:38:55,090 --> 01:38:56,039
building

2162
01:38:56,039 --> 01:38:59,210
elevations are in compliance with the requirements of the

2163
01:38:59,210 --> 01:39:00,359
overlay what you see

2164
01:39:00,359 --> 01:39:04,170
here on the top is the side that would face face east into

2165
01:39:04,170 --> 01:39:06,079
the site the middle

2166
01:39:06,079 --> 01:39:09,250
elevation is what would be visible along the right of way

2167
01:39:09,250 --> 01:39:11,039
of I-35 and then on the

2168
01:39:11,039 --> 01:39:13,069
bottom you see the two the north and south end of the

2169
01:39:13,069 --> 01:39:14,039
building and the

2170
01:39:14,039 --> 01:39:17,329
building would be constructed of if his material similar to

2171
01:39:17,329 --> 01:39:19,439
stucco and Texas

2172
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:24,050
limestone staff is recommending approval of the site plan

2173
01:39:24,050 --> 01:39:25,079
request it was found to

2174
01:39:25,079 --> 01:39:27,390
be compliant with all of the applicable regulations within

2175
01:39:27,390 --> 01:39:28,039
the razor ranch

2176
01:39:28,039 --> 01:39:31,069
overlay district and I can stand for any questions thank

2177
01:39:31,069 --> 01:39:32,159
you Haley any questions

2178
01:39:32,159 --> 01:39:38,199
for Haley commissioner Ellis thank you vice-chair Haley

2179
01:39:38,199 --> 01:39:38,920
when they do develop

2180
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:41,470
the other site you did say that they would come back with a

2181
01:39:41,470 --> 01:39:42,119
site plan for

2182
01:39:42,119 --> 01:39:46,789
that as well that would be something separate yes thank you

2183
01:39:46,789 --> 01:39:48,920
I do not see any

2184
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:52,380
other questions thank you Haley as this is an individual

2185
01:39:52,380 --> 01:39:53,640
consideration item

2186
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:56,880
anyone who would like to speak and certainly do so is there

2187
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:57,960
anyone here who

2188
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:03,409
would like to speak about this item great see none the vice

2189
01:40:03,409 --> 01:40:03,760
-chair will

2190
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:07,430
entertain a motion or discussion commissioner Smith motion

2191
01:40:07,430 --> 01:40:08,119
to approve SP

2192
01:40:08,119 --> 01:40:13,329
18 - 0 0 0 1 commissioner Ellis second is there any

2193
01:40:13,329 --> 01:40:15,560
discussion I'll call for a

2194
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:18,079
vote on the board

2195
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:31,239
motion passes passes 6-0 with one recusal with that we'll

2196
01:40:31,239 --> 01:40:32,560
move into our

2197
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:36,159
public agenda item B will be first and before that I'll

2198
01:40:36,159 --> 01:40:37,479
call the chair back in

2199
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:40,479
the meeting

2200
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:23,939
thank you chairman and commissioners z 17 - 0 0 3 3 is a

2201
01:41:23,939 --> 01:41:25,399
request for approval of

2202
01:41:25,399 --> 01:41:30,930
an initial zoning designation of CMG on the subject site

2203
01:41:30,930 --> 01:41:34,000
located on the map here

2204
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:39,409
it's located on the east side of old out and road south of

2205
01:41:39,409 --> 01:41:43,319
Teasley given that the

2206
01:41:43,319 --> 01:41:46,140
site was recently annexed into the city it has a holding

2207
01:41:46,140 --> 01:41:47,119
zone designation of

2208
01:41:47,119 --> 01:41:53,069
RD 5x and here you see the zoning map as it will look if

2209
01:41:53,069 --> 01:41:54,119
this request is

2210
01:41:54,119 --> 01:42:01,079
approved the subject site is designated as community mixed

2211
01:42:01,079 --> 01:42:02,680
use the intent of

2212
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:09,050
community mixed use is to achieve a mix of uses basically

2213
01:42:09,050 --> 01:42:10,520
commercial uses but

2214
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:15,960
also some residential and other service uses the types of

2215
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:17,560
uses and the scale of

2216
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:21,140
the development that is permitted in the CMG district

2217
01:42:21,140 --> 01:42:22,960
conforms to the goals and

2218
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:28,470
of the community mixed use designation the requested CMG

2219
01:42:28,470 --> 01:42:30,279
district would actually

2220
01:42:30,279 --> 01:42:35,180
be a continuation of the existing CMG district that you see

2221
01:42:35,180 --> 01:42:36,399
to the north this

2222
01:42:36,399 --> 01:42:40,239
little site right here this point three acres is actually

2223
01:42:40,239 --> 01:42:41,560
part of the lot that

2224
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:45,630
is located to the north when the site was plotted it was

2225
01:42:45,630 --> 01:42:46,680
plotted with the city

2226
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:52,600
limit line going through the lower third of it the uses

2227
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,039
permitted in the CMG

2228
01:42:55,039 --> 01:42:58,390
district are consistent with the uses that are in the area

2229
01:42:58,390 --> 01:42:59,479
today specifically

2230
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:04,460
vehicle repair offices self storage we have institutional

2231
01:43:04,460 --> 01:43:05,640
uses across the

2232
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:11,789
street as well as commercial the site will take access from

2233
01:43:11,789 --> 01:43:13,359
old Alton Road old

2234
01:43:13,359 --> 01:43:18,340
out and road is designated as a future secondary arterial

2235
01:43:18,340 --> 01:43:20,000
you can see Teasley

2236
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:23,800
Road right here which is a primary arterial the site has

2237
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:25,319
access to water

2238
01:43:25,319 --> 01:43:29,130
and sewer you can see the water and sewer lines water are

2239
01:43:29,130 --> 01:43:30,239
blue and the sewer

2240
01:43:30,239 --> 01:43:37,579
lines are red notices were sent out on March 25th we sent

2241
01:43:37,579 --> 01:43:38,640
out five notices via

2242
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:42,020
certified mail to property owners within 200 feet of the

2243
01:43:42,020 --> 01:43:43,359
site and we sent 11

2244
01:43:43,359 --> 01:43:47,449
notices courtesy notices to property owners with it with

2245
01:43:47,449 --> 01:43:48,359
excuse me to

2246
01:43:48,359 --> 01:43:52,840
properties within 500 feet of the site we have at this time

2247
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:53,779
received no

2248
01:43:53,779 --> 01:43:59,720
response to the mailing staff recommends approval of this

2249
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:01,600
request as it conforms

2250
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:06,079
with the standards for rezoning specifically the CMG

2251
01:44:06,079 --> 01:44:06,600
district is

2252
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:09,600
consistent with the goals and objectives of the Denton plan

2253
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:10,920
2030 and the CMG

2254
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:14,729
district is compatible with the surrounding land uses and

2255
01:44:14,729 --> 01:44:15,600
that concludes

2256
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:18,319
my presentation

2257
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:27,039
so any questions for Cindy

2258
01:44:33,039 --> 01:44:38,250
I think in the transition of me stepping back in and you

2259
01:44:38,250 --> 01:44:39,520
already being here we

2260
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:44,010
didn't open the public hearing so just for clarification I

2261
01:44:44,010 --> 01:44:45,359
didn't know where we

2262
01:44:45,359 --> 01:44:52,489
were my apologies so we're gonna open the public hearing

2263
01:44:52,489 --> 01:44:54,600
for item 5b do you

2264
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:58,119
want me to go through my presentation again

2265
01:45:02,039 --> 01:45:05,220
I'll ask for that is there anyone in the audience that

2266
01:45:05,220 --> 01:45:06,880
would like to hear the

2267
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:13,520
presentation again seeing none public hearings open and we

2268
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:13,920
've had our

2269
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:22,840
presentation any questions for Cindy seeing none this is a

2270
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:23,840
public hearing so

2271
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:26,279
if there's anyone here who would like to speak on this item

2272
01:45:26,279 --> 01:45:27,439
please come forward

2273
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:29,920
at this time

2274
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:36,420
seeing none it'll close the public hearing and open the

2275
01:45:36,420 --> 01:45:38,279
floor for discussion

2276
01:45:38,279 --> 01:45:44,159
or emotion Commissioner Smith motion approves e 17 - 0 0 3

2277
01:45:44,159 --> 01:45:45,520
3 a commissioner

2278
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:49,100
is out I second okay we have a first and a second for

2279
01:45:49,100 --> 01:45:53,680
approval any questions or

2280
01:45:53,680 --> 01:46:01,920
comments so none we will call for a vote on the board

2281
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:13,720
motion is going to carry 7 0 we'll move us to item C this

2282
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:17,520
time I'm going to open

2283
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:23,420
the public hearing for DCA 18 - 0 0 0 2 and call on Haley

2284
01:46:23,420 --> 01:46:25,199
for presentation

2285
01:46:39,279 --> 01:46:39,699
so this is a proposed amendment to the Denton Development

2286
01:46:39,699 --> 01:46:43,399
Code to remove

2287
01:46:43,399 --> 01:46:47,460
limitation 34 so the request before you is to consider

2288
01:46:47,460 --> 01:46:49,279
making a recommendation

2289
01:46:49,279 --> 01:46:52,710
to council regarding removing limitation 34 from subchapter

2290
01:46:52,710 --> 01:46:53,640
5 of the Denton

2291
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:56,449
Development Code this limitation is applicable to

2292
01:46:56,449 --> 01:46:57,680
distribution center

2293
01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:00,800
warehouse general and warehouse retail uses within our

2294
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:01,920
employment center

2295
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:07,199
districts so for a bit of background staff is proposing to

2296
01:47:07,199 --> 01:47:08,680
remove l34

2297
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:10,779
entirely from the code in all places where it applies

2298
01:47:10,779 --> 01:47:11,720
within the employment

2299
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:15,239
center districts this limitation specifically as I

2300
01:47:15,239 --> 01:47:15,960
mentioned applies to

2301
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:19,260
distribution centers and warehouses and permits no more

2302
01:47:19,260 --> 01:47:21,199
than 150,000 gross

2303
01:47:21,199 --> 01:47:24,100
square feet and eight truck docks it further stipulates

2304
01:47:24,100 --> 01:47:25,319
that all the docks and

2305
01:47:25,319 --> 01:47:28,220
bays have to be to the rear or side not viewable from the

2306
01:47:28,220 --> 01:47:29,119
street and that

2307
01:47:29,119 --> 01:47:32,930
buffering standards apply for outdoor storage and the

2308
01:47:32,930 --> 01:47:34,479
loading docks just for

2309
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:38,010
size comparison purposes the Walmart at razor ranch that

2310
01:47:38,010 --> 01:47:39,479
you see here is just

2311
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:42,789
over 150,000 square feet and contains six truck docks so

2312
01:47:42,789 --> 01:47:44,000
that would be a rough

2313
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:46,529
comparison of the type of facility where this limitation

2314
01:47:46,529 --> 01:47:50,000
would start applying a

2315
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:54,159
little bit more background l34 has been in the code since

2316
01:47:54,159 --> 01:47:55,880
it was adopted in 2002

2317
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:58,920
in 2012 we did make some changes that expanded the applic

2318
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:00,079
ability of it though

2319
01:48:00,079 --> 01:48:05,289
we changed uses in 2012 so we previously had wholesale

2320
01:48:05,289 --> 01:48:06,680
storage and distribution

2321
01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:10,260
and distribution centers as separate uses with this with an

2322
01:48:10,260 --> 01:48:11,720
ordinance in 2012 we

2323
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:15,529
removed both of those and adopted instead distribution

2324
01:48:15,529 --> 01:48:16,239
center slash

2325
01:48:16,239 --> 01:48:20,050
warehouse as a use and warehouse retail as another use and

2326
01:48:20,050 --> 01:48:21,680
then we along with

2327
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:25,710
that expanded l34 to not only apply in the ECI district to

2328
01:48:25,710 --> 01:48:26,920
wholesale storage

2329
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:31,560
but to apply to both of these new uses in the employment

2330
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,640
center districts we did

2331
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:36,970
some comparisons just to see what types of properties this

2332
01:48:36,970 --> 01:48:37,800
would affect in the

2333
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:41,720
city so to develop a site that would have these limitations

2334
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:42,920
with 150,000

2335
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:46,289
square foot or larger building to provide for adequate

2336
01:48:46,289 --> 01:48:48,000
parking and allow

2337
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:51,220
for the required landscaping area on the site within the EC

2338
01:48:51,220 --> 01:48:52,199
I district you would

2339
01:48:52,199 --> 01:48:56,560
have to have a minimum size property of 5.2 acres so

2340
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:59,000
looking at where we have

2341
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:01,590
that size of property with this zoning we found that it

2342
01:49:01,590 --> 01:49:02,319
would affect

2343
01:49:02,319 --> 01:49:05,439
approximately 23 different properties in the city that

2344
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:06,840
totaled approximately

2345
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:10,979
429 acres total so in the grand scheme of things not all

2346
01:49:10,979 --> 01:49:12,840
that many properties

2347
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:16,420
would even be eligible for a facility as large as this

2348
01:49:16,420 --> 01:49:17,920
limitation applies to

2349
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:22,600
properties within ECC we did ran the same comparison again

2350
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:23,560
to just see where

2351
01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:26,560
this would start to kick in and we found the minimum size

2352
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:27,920
property where this

2353
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:31,350
would affect would be about five and a half acres a total

2354
01:49:31,350 --> 01:49:32,520
of six properties

2355
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:39,079
were affected by this at just approximately 150 acres total

2356
01:49:39,079 --> 01:49:39,399
so some

2357
01:49:39,399 --> 01:49:42,050
further considerations that staff had we looked at what

2358
01:49:42,050 --> 01:49:42,960
other cities in this

2359
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:45,300
area have in terms of limitations on warehouse or

2360
01:49:45,300 --> 01:49:47,199
distribution facilities we

2361
01:49:47,199 --> 01:49:50,600
found nothing comparable to what we have here none of the

2362
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:51,800
comparison cities had

2363
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:54,239
any limitation on the number of bays only two had

2364
01:49:54,239 --> 01:49:55,760
limitations on warehouses

2365
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:58,720
at all with McKinney limiting the size of a warehouse in

2366
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:00,000
their town center to

2367
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:04,260
20,000 square feet and Carrollton limiting warehouses to be

2368
01:50:04,260 --> 01:50:04,840
an accessory

2369
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:07,920
use only within their corporate commercial district which

2370
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:08,640
is where they

2371
01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:13,489
have zoning in place to allow for large office campuses

2372
01:50:13,489 --> 01:50:14,479
looking at other uses

2373
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:17,060
that can be permitted by right in these districts today

2374
01:50:17,060 --> 01:50:18,239
craft alcohol production

2375
01:50:18,239 --> 01:50:21,060
and light manufacturing are permitted with no limitation

2376
01:50:21,060 --> 01:50:21,800
those facilities

2377
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:24,609
could include warehouses or distribution centers and not be

2378
01:50:24,609 --> 01:50:26,520
limited in size but

2379
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:28,640
if you're strictly wanting to warehouse or distribute

2380
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:30,680
things that's where we for

2381
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:33,939
some reason have this limitation in place and speaking with

2382
01:50:33,939 --> 01:50:34,520
economic

2383
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:36,909
developments they do frequently get requests for this type

2384
01:50:36,909 --> 01:50:37,720
of facilities and

2385
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:40,680
places where they could go within the city and in general

2386
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:41,319
when those

2387
01:50:41,319 --> 01:50:43,649
applicants come to them they're looking for places to put a

2388
01:50:43,649 --> 01:50:45,039
200 to 300,000

2389
01:50:45,039 --> 01:50:48,180
square foot building minimum so this limitation does

2390
01:50:48,180 --> 01:50:49,439
inhibit in that way a

2391
01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:53,250
lot of property that could be eligible for development with

2392
01:50:53,250 --> 01:50:54,279
that being said

2393
01:50:54,279 --> 01:50:58,090
staff is recommending approval of removing L34 from the

2394
01:50:58,090 --> 01:50:59,000
Employment Center

2395
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:04,899
districts and I could answer any questions any questions

2396
01:51:04,899 --> 01:51:07,239
for Haley okay

2397
01:51:07,239 --> 01:51:11,949
thank you Commissioner Ellis thank you Jim Haley was there

2398
01:51:11,949 --> 01:51:12,760
any discussion among

2399
01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:16,000
staff with the other part of the limitation removing the

2400
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:17,159
size and that but

2401
01:51:17,159 --> 01:51:20,000
where it talks about the screening and the loading ducks

2402
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:21,000
being the back did you

2403
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:25,000
have discussion over perhaps certainly entertaining them

2404
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:27,279
and we currently have

2405
01:51:27,279 --> 01:51:31,359
standards that that accomplish those same goals within sub

2406
01:51:31,359 --> 01:51:33,199
chapter 13 we have

2407
01:51:33,199 --> 01:51:36,050
requirements for of course buffering between uses we

2408
01:51:36,050 --> 01:51:37,279
already require that

2409
01:51:37,279 --> 01:51:40,460
docs not be accessible or visible directly from the street

2410
01:51:40,460 --> 01:51:41,479
so all of those

2411
01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:44,430
same things are accomplished just in other places in the

2412
01:51:44,430 --> 01:51:45,680
code okay so

2413
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:49,260
redundant yeah we're not removing any protections there

2414
01:51:49,260 --> 01:51:49,960
necessarily by

2415
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:52,779
eliminating the location okay and then the way I read this

2416
01:51:52,779 --> 01:51:53,720
is this limitation

2417
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:58,539
wasn't just two buildings that were 150,000 square feet it

2418
01:51:58,539 --> 01:51:59,039
's just they

2419
01:51:59,039 --> 01:52:02,439
couldn't be over 150,000 square feet exactly so I don't

2420
01:52:02,439 --> 01:52:03,640
quite follow the map

2421
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:08,840
thing because so really we're removing any this from any

2422
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:10,079
distribution center of

2423
01:52:10,079 --> 01:52:13,720
any size yes the intent with that exercise was just to see

2424
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:14,880
at what point

2425
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:17,430
would you start being limited so if you did have a property

2426
01:52:17,430 --> 01:52:18,640
that was 5.2 acres

2427
01:52:18,640 --> 01:52:20,829
that's when we would start seeing this because any site

2428
01:52:20,829 --> 01:52:21,680
smaller than that

2429
01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:27,079
couldn't even hold a facility that would this would apply

2430
01:52:27,079 --> 01:52:29,199
to okay okay thank you

2431
01:52:30,199 --> 01:52:37,850
any other questions for Haley okay thank you this is a

2432
01:52:37,850 --> 01:52:40,039
public hearing so if

2433
01:52:40,039 --> 01:52:42,069
there's anyone who would like to speak on this item please

2434
01:52:42,069 --> 01:52:42,720
come forward at this

2435
01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:49,989
time seeing none will close the public hearing and open the

2436
01:52:49,989 --> 01:52:50,479
floor for

2437
01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:53,479
discussion or motion

2438
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:58,520
Commissioner Smith thank you chair motion approved DCA 18 -

2439
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:00,319
0 0 0 2 okay

2440
01:53:00,319 --> 01:53:03,920
Commissioner back second okay we have a first and a second

2441
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:05,199
for approval any

2442
01:53:05,199 --> 01:53:12,960
further discussion seeing none of clothes and call for a

2443
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:15,560
vote on the board

2444
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:25,279
most is going to carry seven zero and we'll move us to our

2445
01:53:25,279 --> 01:53:28,760
project matrix for

2446
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:31,279
this evening

2447
01:53:34,039 --> 01:53:37,539
Commissioner Ellis thank you chair well I'm going to bring

2448
01:53:37,539 --> 01:53:39,960
up that notification

2449
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:39,960
practice once again here as some questions came to light

2450
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:46,079
today so I guess

2451
01:53:46,079 --> 01:53:51,289
I want to know who currently enforces it is that something

2452
01:53:51,289 --> 01:53:52,039
that maybe we can have

2453
01:53:52,039 --> 01:53:56,489
a discussion about to know how that is enforced and then I

2454
01:53:56,489 --> 01:53:57,560
know we have an

2455
01:53:57,560 --> 01:54:01,430
affidavit I believe that the applicant is supposed to

2456
01:54:01,430 --> 01:54:03,520
supply to the city can we

2457
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:06,090
maybe get that in our backup materials that that was

2458
01:54:06,090 --> 01:54:07,319
received or get a copy of

2459
01:54:07,319 --> 01:54:10,510
it or something I know I don't want to be the sign police

2460
01:54:10,510 --> 01:54:11,760
even though I do drive

2461
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:16,970
by all of our you know zoning issues but I would like to

2462
01:54:16,970 --> 01:54:18,960
know and you know who

2463
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:22,539
is enforcing that so that things are properly done

2464
01:54:22,539 --> 01:54:24,000
certainly and it's our

2465
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:26,829
responsibility to to to police that in this regard I

2466
01:54:26,829 --> 01:54:28,279
believe in this specific

2467
01:54:28,279 --> 01:54:32,829
case I believe they did submit an affidavit I can't tell

2468
01:54:32,829 --> 01:54:33,840
you I have

2469
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:38,340
already updated the application and criteria as far as what

2470
01:54:38,340 --> 01:54:38,800
needs to be

2471
01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:44,279
posted and how and I sent that to to all of staff tonight

2472
01:54:44,279 --> 01:54:45,760
and we will be

2473
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:48,670
reviewing that Monday morning at our staff meeting and so

2474
01:54:48,670 --> 01:54:49,720
once we finalize

2475
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:52,810
that I will include that in the packet for the next PNC

2476
01:54:52,810 --> 01:54:54,359
meeting to review okay

2477
01:54:54,359 --> 01:54:57,550
thank you can I ask one more question if if an applicant

2478
01:54:57,550 --> 01:54:59,000
submits an affidavit

2479
01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:03,170
which is a notarized document and it is it compliant I mean

2480
01:55:03,170 --> 01:55:04,079
is there a do we

2481
01:55:04,079 --> 01:55:08,550
have a penalty or is there there's a requirement that it

2482
01:55:08,550 --> 01:55:09,399
needs to be

2483
01:55:09,399 --> 01:55:15,960
submitted prior to the to the meeting the way it's written

2484
01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:16,640
unfortunately it's

2485
01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:22,479
not a code requirement and so there's there's not a it's

2486
01:55:22,479 --> 01:55:23,760
not as tight as it

2487
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:25,789
should be I mean there's not there's simply no other way to

2488
01:55:25,789 --> 01:55:27,239
put it so the the

2489
01:55:27,239 --> 01:55:31,409
what I attempted to do this evening is working to sort of

2490
01:55:31,409 --> 01:55:32,960
clarify that where

2491
01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:36,630
staff will be designating exactly where those signs need to

2492
01:55:36,630 --> 01:55:38,000
be located they'll

2493
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:41,029
still be responsible for putting them up but we will be

2494
01:55:41,029 --> 01:55:42,560
able to tell them exactly

2495
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:44,989
where to put them and how they need to be placed thank you

2496
01:55:44,989 --> 01:55:45,840
I look forward to

2497
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:48,220
that update because I know we've made such good progress

2498
01:55:48,220 --> 01:55:49,239
forward I don't want

2499
01:55:49,239 --> 01:55:52,560
to go backwards now especially on something this absolutely

2500
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:53,399
simple thank

2501
01:55:53,399 --> 01:55:55,800
you

2502
01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:05,659
anything else on the matrix this evening okay with that I

2503
01:56:05,659 --> 01:56:08,039
will close this at 7 10

2504
01:56:08,039 --> 01:56:10,920
thank you everyone