WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.240 Planning and Zoning Commission City of Denton work session. 00:00:03.240 --> 00:00:05.559 It is 530 and this 00:00:05.559 --> 00:00:08.699 meeting has been duly posted and a quorum is present and I 00:00:08.699 --> 00:00:10.599 call our meeting to 00:00:10.599 --> 00:00:14.019 order at this time. Our first item of business in our work 00:00:14.019 --> 00:00:14.839 session is to 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:18.969 receive a report of clarification of agenda items and at 00:00:18.969 --> 00:00:20.160 this time I'm going 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:23.140 to turn that over to Manal for presentation. Thank you 00:00:23.140 --> 00:00:24.199 Chairperson Strange, 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:27.699 members of the Commission. First item we have three plots 00:00:27.699 --> 00:00:29.079 on the agenda. The first 00:00:29.079 --> 00:00:31.570 one is for a preliminary plot of Cavender investment 00:00:31.570 --> 00:00:32.759 properties. Cindy if 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:36.109 you want to come forward please and explain the minor rev 00:00:36.109 --> 00:00:37.079 isions that we've 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:40.359 just received for the P&Z. 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:53.799 Cindy Jackson, senior planner with the Planning Department. 00:00:53.799 --> 00:00:54.799 The revisions that 00:00:54.799 --> 00:00:57.600 you received are just hard copies that were in your packet. 00:00:57.600 --> 00:00:58.439 It's just they 00:00:58.439 --> 00:01:01.829 might be a little easier for you to look at. Basically what 00:01:01.829 --> 00:01:03.479 this is is their 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:10.120 preliminary plotting two lots and the smaller of the lots 00:01:10.120 --> 00:01:10.680 will be 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:16.909 developed with the Cavenders Boots City that the rezoning 00:01:16.909 --> 00:01:18.200 went through a few 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:22.959 months ago for. The next step in this after the preliminary 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:24.120 plot is approved 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:30.120 will be the final plot of the Cavenders site. Thank you. 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:35.700 Commissioner Beck. Thank you. Lot one is where is what we 00:01:35.700 --> 00:01:37.560 're talking about. Lot one is where 00:01:37.560 --> 00:01:41.400 Cavenders is going to go. The entire site is the 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:47.319 preliminary plot. Thank you. 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:54.519 Thank you Cindy. We have a final plan for Buc-E's number 39 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:55.719 subdivision. Julie if 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:59.469 you would please walk everybody through this plan I'd 00:01:59.469 --> 00:02:05.459 appreciate it. Good evening 00:02:05.459 --> 00:02:10.639 Julie Wyatt. All right so here is the final plot. I have a 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:12.840 couple things I want 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:18.189 you to take a look. We had a question earlier today about 00:02:18.189 --> 00:02:22.039 right here. So let me 00:02:22.039 --> 00:02:28.219 back up. This is a final plat for Buc-E's subdivision. Buc- 00:02:28.219 --> 00:02:29.599 E's is intended to be 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:34.560 the anchor on lot one. It will be accessed with Buc-E's 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:35.840 Boulevard which is 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:38.840 going to be a public right-of-way and that that is going to 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:40.120 connect to Nuggetway. 00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:45.770 There are out parcels, seven of them that will be developed 00:02:45.770 --> 00:02:47.879 . As you recall there 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:50.199 was an invite there's an environmentally sensitive area in 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:52.360 this area. There was 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:56.009 an alternative ESA that came to y'all to have this road 00:02:56.009 --> 00:02:58.000 cross. That was withdrawn 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:03.360 by the applicant. So if you notice when you when you zoom 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:05.159 in the access 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:08.000 easement ends at the environmentally sensitive area. 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:09.360 However the 50-foot 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:12.840 water, wastewater, and storm sewer easement does go across 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:14.000 that that 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:17.219 environmentally sensitive area. That is in order to loop 00:03:17.219 --> 00:03:18.879 the water line and sewer 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:24.539 line. That is something that can be done as long as the ESA 00:03:24.539 --> 00:03:26.360 is not disturbed. So 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:29.169 the applicant, this is from the construction plans, the 00:03:29.169 --> 00:03:29.879 applicant is 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:33.280 actually going to bore under that environmentally sensitive 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:33.840 area to go 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:36.879 across it so they do not disturb it. So that is for all of 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:37.919 the utilities that 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:42.210 would be going in that easement. Commissioner Beck. Thank 00:03:42.210 --> 00:03:43.599 you. So no 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:48.919 storm scepters? No sir. Okay. Okay and just to be clear 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:50.680 that go back to the 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:56.319 first slide you put up there. The plat? Yes. Okay. Where 00:03:56.319 --> 00:03:58.520 the road was going to be. It's a 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:05.020 shaded area now. So is that design where sometime down the 00:04:05.020 --> 00:04:06.719 road they may come 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:10.280 back and try and put a road in there? Is that option being 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:11.639 left open? I don't know 00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:14.250 what their future plans are. It is something they could 00:04:14.250 --> 00:04:15.280 always come back 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:18.339 forward with. It would go through the same process that 00:04:18.339 --> 00:04:19.560 they did before where 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:21.610 it would have to come back. Staff would analyze it. It 00:04:21.610 --> 00:04:22.720 would have to come back to 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:26.240 this Commission and then on to City Council for approval. 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:27.279 So if they did do 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:29.769 that you you would know about it. Okay and then one last 00:04:29.769 --> 00:04:31.079 question. Do we know what 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:35.189 kind of commercial buildings to expect on lots two through 00:04:35.189 --> 00:04:36.959 eight? We don't. We don't 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:38.500 know how they're going to define it. Probably going to be a 00:04:38.500 --> 00:04:42.160 chicken joint in there somewhere with nugget what? Well the 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:47.959 Beaver Nuggets I think is there. Okay thank you. Sure. 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:52.509 Commissioner Dedowitz. Thank you. Just another point that 00:04:52.509 --> 00:04:53.480 we had discussed and 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:57.319 that was access to lot two. How was what's the plan? Have 00:04:57.319 --> 00:04:58.560 they discussed that? 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:01.490 Thank you for bringing that up. I actually failed to 00:05:01.490 --> 00:05:03.600 discuss that. There is a 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:08.639 right-of-way that runs adjacent to the property so the lot 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:09.360 two will be 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:11.920 accessed from this right-of-way that's adjacent to the 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:14.360 property. Who owns that? I believe the City of Denton. 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:18.839 It's the City of Denton right-of-way. Does that belong to 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:21.560 the Shopping Center? No sir. 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:26.670 It's a public right-of-way and right now it's just dirt. It 00:05:26.670 --> 00:05:29.319 's not improved right now. I'm assuming it will become 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:35.199 improved at some point. Question then if it is public right 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:35.839 -of-way I 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:40.800 guess for them to develop lot two they'll have to put that 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:42.199 in develop and do 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:45.819 the improvements and then deed those to the city? Yes sir. 00:05:45.819 --> 00:05:46.680 Yes sir. It's a city 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:57.839 standards correct? Anybody else? Thank you Julie. We have 00:05:57.839 --> 00:05:58.879 another preliminary plan 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:03.579 which is Country Club Village phase 2A. Chandrin is going 00:06:03.579 --> 00:06:04.959 to give a synopsis of 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:12.199 that for us tonight as well. Thank you Chandrin. Chandrin 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:14.160 Jarvis with Planey. 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:20.040 This is the preliminary plan for section 2A of the Country 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:21.759 Club Village. If you 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:25.800 remember we you guys approved a general development plan in 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:27.519 the last meeting so 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:31.269 this is just the next step in that process and following 00:06:31.269 --> 00:06:32.079 this will probably 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:39.120 be probably be a final flat. They are platting 25 lots zone 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:41.959 in our in our two 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:49.490 at the corner of well just just east of Fort Worth Drive 00:06:49.490 --> 00:06:51.519 and south of Brush 00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:58.680 Crutcher. Commissioner Beck. Thank you Chair. I think last 00:06:58.680 --> 00:06:59.319 time when we were 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:01.519 looking at the general development I raised the concern 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:02.680 about there being no 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:06.529 parks or anything like that and again I know they don't 00:07:06.529 --> 00:07:08.079 have to do that but we've 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:10.899 got these developments going on way out there people moving 00:07:10.899 --> 00:07:11.800 in yet there's no 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:15.819 recreational areas so can we can I bring this up can we 00:07:15.819 --> 00:07:17.000 raise this as an issue 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:23.199 or is this beyond our scope? It's beyond the scope for this 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:24.759 . I know that there is 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:27.879 a park dedication fee that goes on every lot that's 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:29.480 developed and if you want to 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:32.029 go into that more maybe you can bring that up at the 00:07:32.029 --> 00:07:33.399 conclusion for a future 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:35.899 agenda item if you want to talk some more about parks. Okay 00:07:35.899 --> 00:07:36.480 which would 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:41.439 indicate that maybe they would put a park in there? I said 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:42.000 no. I'll let Manal 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:47.879 address that. Jennifer who ever wants to? Who wants it? 00:07:47.879 --> 00:07:49.439 Generally they can either 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:53.189 dedicate the open space or they can pay a fee so if they 00:07:53.189 --> 00:07:54.899 did a fee in lieu of an 00:07:54.899 --> 00:07:59.459 open space then it would not be depicted on here as an open 00:07:59.459 --> 00:08:00.899 space but they have 00:08:00.899 --> 00:08:02.899 to do one or the other so long as they meet the 00:08:02.899 --> 00:08:05.040 requirements that that kick it 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:10.100 in but as far as the preliminary plan is concerned we can't 00:08:10.100 --> 00:08:10.920 as long as they meet 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:15.149 the technical requirements we can't make them go back. But 00:08:15.149 --> 00:08:15.839 that fee in lieu of 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:19.810 would not necessarily affect that development then it would 00:08:19.810 --> 00:08:21.000 affect parks 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:26.730 somewhere else within the city would benefit the park? That 00:08:26.730 --> 00:08:29.519 's right. Just to piggyback on that just a little bit I know 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:29.720 it's a 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:32.350 little off topic but we do have on the matrix where we're 00:08:32.350 --> 00:08:33.220 trying to get the 00:08:33.220 --> 00:08:35.490 Parks Department and come into a presentation as it relates 00:08:35.490 --> 00:08:36.000 to parkland 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:38.779 dedication and the mechanisms that they have in place so we 00:08:38.779 --> 00:08:41.320 're working on that. 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:45.440 These are fairly large larger lots anyway. I'm familiar 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:47.000 with the development to the 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:52.370 north and most of those people put in their own swing sets 00:08:52.370 --> 00:08:53.120 and and stuff 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:56.200 there too but they're gonna find a lot of my golf balls in 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:57.200 that one they start 00:08:57.200 --> 00:09:02.259 digging up over there. That's right to the side of the 00:09:02.259 --> 00:09:04.600 third hole and if the 00:09:04.600 --> 00:09:09.039 wind's blowing all those golf balls are going in there. But 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:12.240 usually goes the other way into the 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:16.919 lake. Thank you Shandrin. 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:24.299 Next item Judy Wyatt will be discussing it's a request for 00:09:24.299 --> 00:09:25.320 a change in zoning 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:31.159 and I'm gonna yield the floor to Judy to go over the case. 00:09:38.679 --> 00:09:41.679 All right. 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:50.669 All right so this is Z-16-6 McCormick Apartments. The 00:09:50.669 --> 00:09:52.279 request before you is to 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:55.100 consider making a recommendation to City Council regarding 00:09:55.100 --> 00:09:56.440 a rezoning from DR 1 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:02.320 to DR 2 on approximately a third of an acre. The location 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:04.039 of the property it is 00:10:04.039 --> 00:10:08.480 on the corner of McCormick and Eagle. It is just south of 00:10:08.480 --> 00:10:11.919 the UNT campus and just 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:16.360 to bring in Google again just to give you that their their 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:17.480 aerials are a little 00:10:17.480 --> 00:10:21.460 more up to date than ours and it gives you a little bigger 00:10:21.460 --> 00:10:22.559 clarity on what's 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:26.840 going on in the area. So we have the University of North 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:27.799 Texas to the north 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:31.110 and this really is a mixed-use kind of University District 00:10:31.110 --> 00:10:32.200 area and this is a 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:36.679 residence hall and I think it has a thousand students. We 00:10:36.679 --> 00:10:38.399 have apartments 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:42.840 interspersed in the area. We also have single-family homes 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:44.639 and here's some 00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:47.470 religious institutions. So there's quite a mix. There's 00:10:47.470 --> 00:10:48.480 also some commercial 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:53.740 development over here on Eagle and on Avenue C. Just south 00:10:53.740 --> 00:10:54.720 of the property 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:57.960 there were once single-family dwellings that have since 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:00.679 been demolished so the 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:07.759 area is changing and it is evolving. The zoning corresponds 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:08.960 to the mixed-use 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:15.379 of the area. We have DCG which is the University area. DR2 00:11:15.379 --> 00:11:16.279 is across the 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:20.029 street from the property so a rezoning to DR2 for this 00:11:20.029 --> 00:11:21.200 property would really be a 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:26.799 logical extension of that existing DR2. We have some DR1, 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:28.000 the subject property 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:31.559 as well as the adjacent properties, some DCN and then some 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:32.919 DR2. So it really is a 00:11:32.919 --> 00:11:39.200 mix of zoning uses or zoning districts and the uses on the 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:39.759 ground 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:47.679 reflect that mix of zoning. Let me go back one. The 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:48.440 applicant is 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:52.490 proposing the DR2 in order to develop the property with 00:11:52.490 --> 00:11:54.360 multi-family. Now 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:57.840 multi-family is permitted in DR2 as well as some small- 00:11:57.840 --> 00:12:00.720 scale commercial uses. So 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:06.649 DR1 is primarily more of a single-family residential or du 00:12:06.649 --> 00:12:07.480 plex, the 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:11.460 lower density residential uses. So that's why the applicant 00:12:11.460 --> 00:12:12.480 is coming forward the 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:16.399 DR2 in order to develop the property with multi-family. 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:17.879 When we look at the 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:21.360 Denton Plan 2030 we see that this is a neighborhood 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:22.879 university compatibility 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:27.840 area and we can see that by what's on the ground. If you 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:29.419 just look at the 00:12:29.419 --> 00:12:32.759 map you'll see that we have the government institutional 00:12:32.759 --> 00:12:33.399 future land 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:35.970 use category here and that's where the University of North 00:12:35.970 --> 00:12:37.919 Texas is. We have the 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:42.179 neighborhood university compatibility area that rings 00:12:42.179 --> 00:12:44.840 around UNT and that 00:12:44.840 --> 00:12:47.809 includes the subject property. When you get in this area 00:12:47.809 --> 00:12:48.799 you get more of the 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:51.250 downtown and downtown compatibility area and then you get 00:12:51.250 --> 00:12:52.159 some more commercial 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:56.919 uses on 35 and then toward Dallas Drive. The neighborhood 00:12:56.919 --> 00:12:57.679 university 00:12:57.679 --> 00:13:00.580 compatibility area is really those areas that are affected 00:13:00.580 --> 00:13:00.919 by the 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:05.129 universities in our city and in this case it's UNT. The CO 00:13:05.129 --> 00:13:06.360 MP plan calls for a 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:09.840 gradual transition from the real intense development of the 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:11.480 universities to more 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:16.759 of the neighborhoods and then they want a mix of uses. They 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:17.159 really want 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:24.000 to activate the public realm and encourage walkable and 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:25.200 bicycling 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:29.240 areas. So that's really what the COMP plan is calling for. 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:30.799 The proposed DR2 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:36.149 does fit within this future land use designation. So the 00:13:36.149 --> 00:13:36.879 considerations 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:40.139 that staff looked at when we were analyzing the case is 00:13:40.139 --> 00:13:41.080 first what was 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:46.149 going on at the site and at the block level with the rede 00:13:46.149 --> 00:13:46.720 velopment that's 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:50.149 going on. That's really signaling to us that this area is 00:13:50.149 --> 00:13:51.480 probably in transition 00:13:51.480 --> 00:13:58.000 and maybe single-family uses aren't entirely appropriate 00:13:58.000 --> 00:13:58.320 for this 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:02.379 area especially the adjacency to the university and that 00:14:02.379 --> 00:14:03.799 the DR2 district is 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:06.529 consistent with the future land use designation and it's 00:14:06.529 --> 00:14:07.519 consistent with the 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:12.480 existing zoning pattern. The additional density and uses 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:13.559 that are associated 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:18.080 with DR2 district are desirable next to the university as 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:19.159 it would contribute to 00:14:19.159 --> 00:14:24.320 the walkability of the area and it is consistent with the 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:25.919 eclectic mixed use 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:30.879 character of the neighborhood. However, the code does 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:32.120 require for a 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:35.480 gradual transition and so the redevelopment should be 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:36.440 sensitive in 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:41.200 scale to not only the university but also the established 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:41.720 neighborhoods 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:46.679 nearby. We feel like DR2 district meets this requirement 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:47.539 because the height, you 00:14:47.539 --> 00:14:51.080 know, there's only a maximum height to 45 feet, maximum lot 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:52.600 coverage of 75 feet, so 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:59.240 it keeps the scale consistent with what you could expect in 00:14:59.240 --> 00:14:59.639 an urban 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:04.399 residential neighborhood. And then DR2 district would allow 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:04.679 the 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:07.669 subject property to redevelop to provide the essential 00:15:07.669 --> 00:15:09.360 housing for students and 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:13.230 also if it did develop that way, a neighborhood serving 00:15:13.230 --> 00:15:14.440 commercial uses 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:18.080 while it's still, as I said, maintain that scale that is 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:19.360 consistent or that 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:23.600 transitions to those existing neighborhoods. Here are some 00:15:23.600 --> 00:15:24.120 pictures. 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:27.610 Once again, I'm not good at taking the picture so don't 00:15:27.610 --> 00:15:29.120 expect a lot but here's 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:32.240 the subject property and then you can see the adjacent 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:33.159 properties that 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:36.710 those are no longer there. This is the middle of the street 00:15:36.710 --> 00:15:37.639 and this is looking 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:41.870 south toward the residential area and then this is looking 00:15:41.870 --> 00:15:44.000 north toward UNT. 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:46.940 So you can see it really there's, you know, this really is 00:15:46.940 --> 00:15:48.039 transitioning from 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:53.559 that university to the neighborhoods. We did send out a 00:15:53.559 --> 00:15:53.879 public 00:15:53.879 --> 00:15:57.820 notification. We received one notice that was neutral to 00:15:57.820 --> 00:15:59.840 the request and due to 00:15:59.840 --> 00:16:02.600 the considerations and the criteria for approval, staff 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:03.799 does recommend approval 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:07.840 of the request and I'll answer any questions. Commissioner 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:09.159 Rossell. Thank you. 00:16:09.159 --> 00:16:15.139 The other two lots seem recently demolished based on the 00:16:15.139 --> 00:16:16.480 pictures. It 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:21.120 looks relatively recent. It does. Has that owner or owners 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:22.320 come before PNZ 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:24.940 before my time with any kind of request for rezoning? Has 00:16:24.940 --> 00:16:25.559 there been any 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:28.039 action on that, those two lots? There hasn't been any 00:16:28.039 --> 00:16:29.120 action. They are actually 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:32.610 owned by a religious institution and so if they were to 00:16:32.610 --> 00:16:34.120 develop, religious 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:39.889 institutions are permitted in any zoning district so you 00:16:39.889 --> 00:16:40.679 know if that 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:44.809 actual owner was to develop they could buy right in the 00:16:44.809 --> 00:16:45.639 zoning, any zoning 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:50.080 district they had. That owner owns both lots? Yes, I 00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:53.399 believe several lots within 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:56.539 in this area. And that's a distinct different owner than 00:16:56.539 --> 00:16:57.120 the one the 00:16:57.120 --> 00:17:00.870 applicant who's applying this evening? Yes sir. Okay. Thank 00:17:00.870 --> 00:17:02.759 you. Commissioner Beck. 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:08.599 Thank you chair. That single house that sits there, the 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:09.880 owner does he live in 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:14.839 that? I don't believe so. The applicant is here. I see her. 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:16.200 So she'll be able 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:20.119 to answer questions at the regular meeting for you. Okay so 00:17:20.119 --> 00:17:21.160 I would gather 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:26.240 too by the lack of input you got from notification. I'm 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:27.000 thinking most of that 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:33.440 area is rented out in the first place. Okay so now your 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:35.160 first page had McCormick 00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:40.599 apartments on it. So is that in fact what we're looking at? 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:41.519 Not that it makes any difference? She is. 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:44.240 It's not going to be a fourplex or something? She is 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:45.640 looking well a fourplex would be 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:49.559 considered multifamily within the City of Denton. So she is 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:50.759 looking to develop 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:53.880 the property with multifamily. Of course staff when we look 00:17:53.880 --> 00:17:54.799 at a zoning case we 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:56.720 don't just look at what they're wanting to do. We look at 00:17:56.720 --> 00:17:57.559 all of those uses and 00:17:57.559 --> 00:18:00.630 and how it could develop in accordance with that zoning 00:18:00.630 --> 00:18:01.700 district and make a 00:18:01.700 --> 00:18:05.359 determination based upon that. So that is her according to 00:18:05.359 --> 00:18:06.160 her application that's 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:10.740 her intent right now. Okay is it okay to ask her order? She 00:18:10.740 --> 00:18:12.000 intends to build? Is that 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:18.359 appropriate now? Staff says if you want to do that we could 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:18.839 certainly do that 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:22.640 during the public hearing but not during the work session. 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:22.640 Okay. Thank you. 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:27.670 Commissioner Hussbett. Shocker. I was a little nervous 00:18:27.670 --> 00:18:30.759 about this one about the 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:35.240 neighborhood. So this is an odd position for me but seeing 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:35.680 updated 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:39.119 pictures help and my question is for you though I did 00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:40.680 notice the apartment down 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:45.640 into the other side of the street. No no same street on McC 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:46.839 ormick there about 00:18:46.839 --> 00:18:49.869 midway there's an right there. Yes sir. Yes sir. Any issues 00:18:49.869 --> 00:18:51.079 there that we're 00:18:51.079 --> 00:18:56.759 aware of or any thing that's arisen because that's there? I 00:18:56.759 --> 00:18:58.039 I'm not aware of 00:18:58.039 --> 00:19:05.670 any. Okay. Commissioner Dedowitz. What I find amusing is 00:19:05.670 --> 00:19:06.759 that we could put a 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:13.480 fraternity or a sorority house there by an SUP. You know so 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:15.160 yeah to your point 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:17.170 I'm just saying is that you know there are other 00:19:17.170 --> 00:19:18.759 alternatives here it's a mixed 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:21.529 use area and it's changing it's going to change and it's 00:19:21.529 --> 00:19:22.599 done correctly I think 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:29.200 as by the future use map it would be compatible. 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:32.000 Commissioner Taylor. Thank you 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:37.240 Chair. I had two questions one's more about paperwork. We 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:38.799 used to get permitted 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:43.759 uses comparisons in a tabular format where it would show dr 00:19:43.759 --> 00:19:45.599 1 in one column dr2 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:49.480 in the other column and maybe like red where things get 00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:50.400 denied you know no 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:53.170 longer permitted and green where things are now permitted 00:19:53.170 --> 00:19:54.000 and it's a little more 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:57.650 readable format than going into like a text list and then 00:19:57.650 --> 00:19:59.079 having to leave that 00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:01.920 document go into another text list I don't know if that's 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:03.200 something we can do. 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:07.279 We can go back to doing tabular. Well we just have one disc 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:08.279 repancy with 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:11.359 legislature but that's an adminstural issue let's see what 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:12.240 we can do to mitigate that. 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:15.720 Yeah just in that way it's a lot easier because it's like 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:17.039 so single families 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:19.430 allowed and duplexes are allowed and you know you have to 00:20:19.430 --> 00:20:20.359 back out look you know 00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:22.869 remember that list while you look at the second list where 00:20:22.869 --> 00:20:23.839 you can see all the red 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:26.450 ones are no longer allowed and all the green ones are you 00:20:26.450 --> 00:20:28.160 know now allowed and 00:20:28.160 --> 00:20:33.950 the second question I had is what were the dr1 owners and 00:20:33.950 --> 00:20:35.259 in the area that 00:20:35.259 --> 00:20:39.720 demolished area notified and to see if they want to 00:20:39.720 --> 00:20:40.960 participate in this 00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:46.480 rezoning? We did not do that. So this is one of the areas 00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:48.160 of town that is changing 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:52.670 and we are we aren't reasonably expecting a single lot on a 00:20:52.670 --> 00:20:53.519 block that's 00:20:53.519 --> 00:21:01.869 all dr2 and DCG DCN to probably stay dr1 so I'd like to see 00:21:01.869 --> 00:21:03.599 as much block 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:06.640 rezoning as possible you know consistent rezoning and then 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:07.559 we also solve the 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:10.210 conflict problem because if we do it one at a time we're 00:21:10.210 --> 00:21:11.240 going to have a potential 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:14.990 conflict on all five lots in the block where if we just do 00:21:14.990 --> 00:21:16.960 the block we know 00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:21.150 that there isn't a conflict within the block. That was 00:21:21.150 --> 00:21:21.480 discussed in our subcommittee. 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:23.109 Commissioner Dudowitz. That was discussed in our sub 00:21:23.109 --> 00:21:24.400 committee meeting of trying to 00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:28.150 make sense of it so not to do a patchwork situation here 00:21:28.150 --> 00:21:28.799 and if we can 00:21:28.799 --> 00:21:30.480 see something like this we know what's going to happen 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:31.960 there and it's already 00:21:31.960 --> 00:21:38.440 dr2 or surrounded it let's do a block. Is this an area that 00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:39.440 I know I think 00:21:39.440 --> 00:21:44.720 you're chair that committee? Devon? You want to add that 00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:46.079 area to your list? Do you have a 00:21:46.079 --> 00:21:49.509 list that you're already looking at? So I was looking for 00:21:49.509 --> 00:21:50.359 Ron over there I 00:21:50.359 --> 00:21:58.119 believe that... Oh so I believe this is on the list to look 00:21:58.119 --> 00:21:59.319 at. 00:21:59.319 --> 00:22:06.640 Yes okay. Commissioner Hussbett. One other question I know 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:07.480 they're currently 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:11.250 reconstructing Eagle I think it's going to two lanes two 00:22:11.250 --> 00:22:12.519 bike lanes is that 00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:18.240 right? Yes sir. So is there a way for us to manage or work 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:19.599 with them one fatal 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:22.650 swoop to kind of make sure we're not duplicating efforts or 00:22:22.650 --> 00:22:23.519 is there any way 00:22:23.519 --> 00:22:26.240 to kind of direct it that way or are we kind of at the 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:28.240 property owners discretion? 00:22:28.240 --> 00:22:31.990 Typically when we're when a property is redeveloped that 00:22:31.990 --> 00:22:33.400 property owner puts in 00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:37.049 the sidewalks and and make sure this I'm answering your 00:22:37.049 --> 00:22:38.440 question so jump in if 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:42.000 I'm not so typically that is the property owner of that 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:42.519 individual 00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:46.680 property would would put in the infrastructure for that 00:22:46.680 --> 00:22:48.000 that of the 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:54.319 streets and and and sidewalks that abut that property. So I 00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:56.599 guess do we give the 00:22:56.599 --> 00:22:59.009 property owner direction because I don't know that the 00:22:59.009 --> 00:23:00.079 property owner would would 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:03.910 have the foresight of know who to contact to try to okay 00:23:03.910 --> 00:23:04.640 that was my 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:07.859 question to make sure we're... Engineering reviews all 00:23:07.859 --> 00:23:09.279 cases and so they give them 00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:12.009 and and they really try to give them direction as early in 00:23:12.009 --> 00:23:12.759 the process as 00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:17.339 possible just just to so people know what's coming so so I 00:23:17.339 --> 00:23:18.119 know that's 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:22.559 something that a DRC engineering really tries to do to set 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:23.160 the set the 00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:26.829 groundwork. That's why I have sidewalks to nowhere in front 00:23:26.829 --> 00:23:27.759 of my building 00:23:27.759 --> 00:23:36.369 because of the future potential. Any other questions on 00:23:36.369 --> 00:23:39.359 this case? 00:23:39.640 --> 00:23:43.119 Thank you. 00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:50.170 Okay that is all the items that we have on our work session 00:23:50.170 --> 00:23:52.640 for this evening so 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:58.109 at 553 I'm going to close our work session and we'll recon 00:23:58.109 --> 00:23:59.079 vene in council 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:03.279 chambers at 630 for our public meeting. 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:13.200 Good evening and welcome to our City of Denton Planning and 00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:16.519 Zoning Commission 00:24:16.519 --> 00:24:21.690 meeting for May the 25th. It is 630 and this meeting has 00:24:21.690 --> 00:24:23.440 been duly posted and a 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:25.890 quorum is present and I'm calling our meeting to order at 00:24:25.890 --> 00:24:27.440 this time. Our first 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:30.059 order of business tonight is going to be to stand and give 00:24:30.059 --> 00:24:31.160 the pledge to the US 00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:33.960 and the Texas flag. 00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:48.640 With liberty and justice for all. 00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:56.369 On the Texas flag, our pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, 00:24:56.369 --> 00:25:02.640 one state, under God, one and indivisible. 00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:17.079 Our next order of business is going to be to consider the 00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:19.359 approval of our P&Z 00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:25.039 Commission meeting minutes for April the 27th. 00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:35.890 Commissioner Hutsbitt. Move approval. Commissioner Dudowitz 00:25:35.890 --> 00:25:37.599 . I second. We have a 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:42.920 first and a second. Any discussion? Seeing none, I'll call 00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:46.119 for a vote on the board. 00:25:55.000 --> 00:26:00.119 Motion passes six to zero. That moves us to our consent 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:07.119 agenda. I do have one card 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:14.259 from Ken Gold for agenda item 3B. This is a consent agenda 00:26:14.259 --> 00:26:15.519 item so it's not a 00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:17.869 public hearing but did want to acknowledge that you brought 00:26:17.869 --> 00:26:18.240 in a card 00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:22.079 but we will not be calling for you to speak on this 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:23.759 particular item. 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:28.000 Commissioner Rozelle. I move to approve the consent agenda 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:29.640 item. Commissioner 00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:34.210 Dudowitz. I second. Motion. We have a first and a second. 00:26:34.210 --> 00:26:35.160 Any discussion on the 00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:42.500 consent agenda? Seeing none, I'll call for a vote on the 00:26:42.500 --> 00:26:43.680 board. 00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:59.359 Motion carries six to zero. Moves us to item number four, 00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:02.039 our public hearing. At 00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:08.559 this time I'm going to open the public hearing for Z16-0006 00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:10.000 . We'll call 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:13.279 on the applicant to present your project. Please come 00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:14.759 forward and state your name 00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:19.279 and address and present your project. Grace Chang. I live 00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:21.119 in 204 Park Haven Drive, 00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:25.799 McKinney, Texas. Thank you. The project is going to be on 00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:29.599 903 McCormick, Denton, Texas. 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.829 Do you have a presentation of your project you'd like to 00:27:33.829 --> 00:27:34.799 present or just 00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:38.599 speak? I don't have any presentations. I have some pictures 00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:40.039 of the streets but it 00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:43.960 seems like you guys been discussing the project in detail 00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:45.000 in the prior meeting 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.480 so you're familiar with the neighborhood. It's already 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:50.000 mostly apartments or 00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:54.039 people wanting to build apartments. So I would like to 00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:55.279 answer any questions 00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:58.059 you have and I'd like to share my building philosophy if 00:27:58.059 --> 00:27:58.920 anyone wants to 00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:04.200 hear about it. Sure. Commissioner Beck. Thank you Chair. 00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:06.359 Thank you for coming and 00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:10.589 I do just have one question because I there's always some 00:28:10.589 --> 00:28:12.759 concern by people 00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:15.710 out there that we're building a lot of apartments and I don 00:28:15.710 --> 00:28:16.240 't have a 00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:19.420 particular problem with apartments there but do you mind if 00:28:19.420 --> 00:28:20.200 I ask what your 00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:23.259 intention is to build? Are you building, it's obviously 00:28:23.259 --> 00:28:24.839 multifamily, but were you 00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:28.190 looking at something along like a four-plex or are you 00:28:28.190 --> 00:28:30.720 gonna do? I think by building code 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:34.680 I can have maximum of 16 bedrooms in any combination. I 00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:36.279 think that's true. That's the 00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:40.599 limitation. I am looking for, I'm looking to build the best 00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:42.279 apartment possible so 00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:46.259 not necessarily maximizing the square footage or the number 00:28:46.259 --> 00:28:47.319 of bedrooms or the 00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:51.269 number of units but the best apartment possible. I own the 00:28:51.269 --> 00:28:53.559 house for over 10 00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:58.079 years now so I'm in a fortunate position of not having any 00:28:58.079 --> 00:28:59.440 debt on the house so I 00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:02.920 have a lot of equity so I can afford to sit on it and think 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:04.680 about this. There's a 00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:07.759 reason I haven't tear down the house the last 10 years 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:08.960 because I want to think 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:12.789 about this and really build the right apartment for the 00:29:12.789 --> 00:29:14.619 site. Whenever I'm 00:29:14.619 --> 00:29:18.369 engaged in a building project I want to minimize the 00:29:18.369 --> 00:29:20.079 ultimate environmental 00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:26.079 impact. So by minimizing environmental impact it's not just 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:27.319 say increasing the 00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:31.190 energy efficiency of a place which I do. I'm waiting to put 00:29:31.190 --> 00:29:32.640 in say solar lights 00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:37.079 which I did in my last project, phone insulation, tankless 00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:39.160 water heater, all of 00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:42.049 all of them actually exceed the building code, the current 00:29:42.049 --> 00:29:43.920 building code. So my goal 00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:47.670 is not just to satisfy the current code but to do the best 00:29:47.670 --> 00:29:49.119 project possible. So 00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:52.640 the best project may allow me only to build say four units 00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:53.960 but four very good 00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:58.200 units. It may allow me to do six units. I don't really know 00:29:58.200 --> 00:29:59.359 but I plan to work 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:03.200 with the local architect Mark Martin and we will work 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:05.680 together to think of 00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:08.750 something in the next one or two years. I don't think I'm 00:30:08.750 --> 00:30:10.680 in the building stage 00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:14.829 yet. I think it's going to be two years of planning this 00:30:14.829 --> 00:30:15.839 out so when I have 00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:20.630 more concrete idea I'll present it to you. Very good. Okay 00:30:20.630 --> 00:30:22.000 thank you so much. 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:26.640 Any other questions for the applicant? 00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:31.519 Seeing none thank you very much for your presentation. 00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:34.640 Thank you. 00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:41.480 I'll call on Julie for staff presentation. 00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:54.430 All right just to provide a summary of the request before 00:30:54.430 --> 00:30:54.799 you. The 00:30:54.799 --> 00:31:00.509 request is to rezone about a third of an acre from DR1 to 00:31:00.509 --> 00:31:03.400 DR2. It's on Eagle and 00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.839 McCormick on that corner. The findings are that staff that 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:08.000 the 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:11.480 proposed DR2 district does conform to the future land use 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:12.519 designation and it's 00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:16.960 also compatible with the existing land uses and the zoning. 00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:18.079 So staff does 00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:22.130 recommend approval of the request and I'll answer any 00:31:22.130 --> 00:31:23.000 questions. 00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:32.839 All right thank you. No questions thank you Julie. Again 00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:34.119 this is a public hearing. 00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:36.819 Anyone who would like to speak on this item please come 00:31:36.819 --> 00:31:38.079 forward at this time. I 00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:43.400 do have one card from Grace Chen. I believe spoke already 00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:44.279 obviously in 00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:49.869 support of the project so thank you for that. Again public 00:31:49.869 --> 00:31:50.799 hearing if there's 00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:54.160 anyone who would like to speak on this item please come 00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:55.480 forward at this time. 00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:59.089 Seeing none I will close the public hearing and I will open 00:31:59.089 --> 00:32:00.000 the floor for 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:04.559 discussion or a motion. Commissioner Dudowitz. Having had a 00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:05.960 great presentation 00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:11.609 during our work session and noting that this rezoning is 00:32:11.609 --> 00:32:12.880 compatible with long 00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:17.319 range planning I would move to approve as recommended by 00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:19.240 staff. Commissioner Beck. 00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:25.099 I concur and second the motion. Second. Okay have a first 00:32:25.099 --> 00:32:26.039 and a second for 00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:34.529 approval. Any further discussion? Seeing none we'll call 00:32:34.529 --> 00:32:38.480 for a vote on the board. 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:51.710 The motion to approve carries six to zero. That moves us to 00:32:51.710 --> 00:32:53.680 our final item on 00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:58.640 our agenda tonight our project matrix. So open the floor at 00:32:58.640 --> 00:32:59.319 this time for anyone 00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:03.890 who would like to put an item on our agenda consider in the 00:33:03.890 --> 00:33:04.599 future. 00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:10.630 Commissioner Beck you had a question during our work 00:33:10.630 --> 00:33:13.319 session about parks. 00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:19.759 You were asking about park dedications. We had talked about 00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:20.759 bringing it up at 00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:25.440 this time I don't know if you want to bring. I would like 00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:27.480 to raise an 00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:32.240 external development. Do I direct it at this one 00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:33.759 development or just in general? 00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:38.559 In general. Okay in general yeah about future housing 00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:39.440 development especially 00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:42.910 the further out they are about access to public parks and 00:33:42.910 --> 00:33:44.119 bike paths things like 00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:47.019 that. Okay and I think one of the other questions you'd ask 00:33:47.019 --> 00:33:48.160 about was park fees. 00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:52.619 Whether they make a contribution in dollars or a 00:33:52.619 --> 00:33:54.759 contribution in land and 00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:58.960 then any subsequent park fees that may be paid at building 00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:00.200 permit stage I think 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:03.559 was another item that we discussed briefly to come back to 00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:04.279 this evening. 00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:10.099 Thank you so much for helping me. You did great. Anybody 00:34:10.099 --> 00:34:11.760 else have an item we would like to 00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:18.760 to put on our future agenda items? Just to clarify Chair 00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:20.159 person Strange regarding 00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:24.670 the park dedication park land requirements associated with 00:34:24.670 --> 00:34:25.719 development 00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:29.719 within the city. We do have an item on our agenda as to 00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:30.559 what are the park 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:33.190 dedication plans throughout the city that is a 00:34:33.190 --> 00:34:35.239 comprehensive study and what we can 00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:37.900 do is provide the additional information that you've 00:34:37.900 --> 00:34:39.360 requested through that. We 00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:43.260 are trying to coordinate a date and time if you recall in 00:34:43.260 --> 00:34:44.639 your matrix it states 00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:47.000 that the Parks Department Parks and Rec Department is 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:48.199 currently in the process 00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:53.500 of updating their master plan and we are hopeful to have a 00:34:53.500 --> 00:34:55.559 scope of services or 00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:58.449 study presented to you eminently and we will coordinate 00:34:58.449 --> 00:34:59.760 that activity with them 00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:05.199 shortly to make sure we have something that we can present. 00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:09.119 Anybody else? 00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:14.320 Okay seeing none I'm going to close our P&Z meeting tonight 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:18.679 at 642. Thank you for coming.