WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.919 5.02 and we have a quorum and our meeting has been duly 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:08.820 posted and we're 00:00:08.820 --> 00:00:15.519 going to go ahead and open our work session. Our first item 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:17.519 is going to be a 00:00:17.519 --> 00:00:21.640 clarification of agenda items. We will receive a work 00:00:21.640 --> 00:00:24.399 session report on I 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:28.629 legislate. If I may interject Chairperson, we'll go ahead 00:00:28.629 --> 00:00:29.920 and start with the 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:32.560 clarification of agenda items for the regular meeting. If 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:34.039 anybody has any 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:36.570 questions on the plots if not we can skip that and go 00:00:36.570 --> 00:00:37.840 straight into the site 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:41.670 plan for Razor Ranch. I have one question. Sure and we can 00:00:41.670 --> 00:00:42.759 go ahead and present the 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:46.759 plot for you if you like. Sure. Okay. Which plot is it? It 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:50.000 's the villages of Carmel. I'll ask Mike to come 00:00:50.000 --> 00:01:01.090 forward and present villages of Carmel. Hi. You can answer 00:01:01.090 --> 00:01:03.079 your question while I bring it up here. 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:07.810 Okay well I was curious about the drainage easement. There 00:01:07.810 --> 00:01:08.719 's one on the 00:01:08.719 --> 00:01:10.769 north side and one on the south side. I'm just kind of 00:01:10.769 --> 00:01:11.840 curious is it going to go 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:17.040 underneath is that Cabrillo Drive? Is there drainage going 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:17.879 right through the 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:22.829 center of the neighborhood? And also I just want to point 00:01:22.829 --> 00:01:24.400 out there was a typo 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:30.239 too on the north. It says drainage easement by separate and 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:31.079 it's missing an A. I 00:01:31.079 --> 00:01:33.219 don't know if that matters but I know. Yeah we can change 00:01:33.219 --> 00:01:34.560 that before it gets 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:42.680 filed. I'm going to ask her to come up and assist me with 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:43.040 the drainage 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:48.239 question here. 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:14.900 Okay the drainage easement was? So there's the drainage eas 00:02:14.900 --> 00:02:16.639 ement on the north side and 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:19.340 the south side and on the south side it looks like it's 00:02:19.340 --> 00:02:20.520 just kind of draining 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:24.750 right into those two locks. So I was just I assumed that 00:02:24.750 --> 00:02:26.360 there's something that's 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:29.189 maybe going to go underneath the property or underneath the 00:02:29.189 --> 00:02:29.719 street or 00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:31.379 something or I was just kind of wondering if you could 00:02:31.379 --> 00:02:33.960 explain that to me. 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:40.949 The proposed subdivision will be, the drainage for the 00:02:40.949 --> 00:02:42.240 entire subdivision will 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:44.830 be collected by inlets and underground storm pipe and there 00:02:44.830 --> 00:02:45.639 are two outfall 00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:51.689 locations. One is located off site to the north of Edwards 00:02:51.689 --> 00:02:53.680 Road and they're just 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:57.610 they are discharged into an adjacent property owner and 00:02:57.610 --> 00:02:58.479 they will be 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:02.030 acquiring off-site drainage easement from this property 00:03:02.030 --> 00:03:03.240 owner to allow them to do 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:07.000 that and then also on the south side there's going to be an 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:07.960 underground 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:11.250 storm pipe between these two lots here and outfalling 00:03:11.250 --> 00:03:12.400 around approximately at 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:15.900 this point and and sheet flow and they currently own this 00:03:15.900 --> 00:03:17.639 property as well and 00:03:17.639 --> 00:03:23.360 eventually I believe this is phase four and I believe that 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:24.400 this this phase has 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:27.939 already been approved and accounted for this drainage to 00:03:27.939 --> 00:03:28.719 come through them and 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:33.840 they will they will convey it to an existing storm system 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:34.639 over at Pocras 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:44.759 Page Road. Okay thank you. Any other questions on the spot? 00:03:48.759 --> 00:03:57.080 Any other items to be clarified? Commissioner Beck. 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:09.080 [inaudible] 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:13.340 Plats? Yes. Sure if you have a question about any plot this 00:04:13.340 --> 00:04:17.120 is the time to... Yes sir. 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:21.870 For the ease of the Commission we can go ahead and pull the 00:04:21.870 --> 00:04:23.600 plot up. Mike if you 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:26.360 would please go to the final replot pull that up and just 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:28.300 go over it for the new 00:04:28.300 --> 00:04:32.639 members especially to walk them through that replot please. 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:46.959 Yes so what we're going to do is we are going to go through 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:51.439 each item that is 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:54.009 referenced in the regular agenda so we'll go through the 00:04:54.009 --> 00:04:54.920 plots then we'll go 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:58.319 through each item we have an individual consideration item 00:04:58.319 --> 00:04:58.600 for site 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:01.790 plan approval we also have a zoning change request we will 00:05:01.790 --> 00:05:02.800 go through those 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:05.750 and present those to the Commission and so the reason why 00:05:05.750 --> 00:05:06.800 we're pulling up the 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:09.410 plot should you have any questions related we thought you 00:05:09.410 --> 00:05:09.720 might have a 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:15.459 plot related question. Okay super. That being said I will 00:05:15.459 --> 00:05:16.519 ask Sophie Humer to 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:20.480 come up and present the site plan for raise around South 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:21.319 Campus for 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:30.029 multi-tenant retail building. All right good evening 00:05:30.029 --> 00:05:34.079 Commissioner Sophie Humer 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:37.360 associate planner with the City of Denton I'm presenting to 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:38.839 you SP 15-5 the 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:43.129 Razor Ranch Town Center phase 2B. So the request before you 00:05:43.129 --> 00:05:43.839 is to consider 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:47.560 approval of a site plan within the Razor Ranch South Campus 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:48.000 for six thousand 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:50.810 eight hundred and ten square foot multi-tenant retail 00:05:50.810 --> 00:05:52.160 building on a portion 00:05:52.160 --> 00:05:57.040 of lot 10 block A of the Razor Ranch Town Center phase 1. 00:05:57.040 --> 00:05:59.199 This is a location 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:02.829 map the site area that we'll be looking at tonight is 00:06:02.829 --> 00:06:04.959 outlined in red here this 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:11.589 is 35 and this is University running east-west and just to 00:06:11.589 --> 00:06:12.839 give you an 00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:15.139 overview of what I'll be doing is I'm going to go through 00:06:15.139 --> 00:06:15.920 the request first 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:18.360 and then give you an overview of the sub districts of the 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:20.360 Razor Ranch overlay for 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:22.639 some of the new commissioners. I'm also going to go through 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:23.360 what we require for 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:26.610 a site plan approval give you an overview and then get into 00:06:26.610 --> 00:06:29.160 the site plan. 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:32.699 So this is a document you'll be seeing it's the concept in 00:06:32.699 --> 00:06:33.879 the schematic plan 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:37.279 for the Razor Ranch overlay district. The building that we 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:38.560 're looking at is in the 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:42.120 RR 1 sub district these sub districts control things such 00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:42.600 as general 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:46.240 development standards and kind of set the overall land use 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:47.279 pattern for the 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:50.230 Razor Ranch overlay district. So the building in question 00:06:50.230 --> 00:06:51.600 is located here and 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:56.250 the retail sales and services are permitted in that sub 00:06:56.250 --> 00:06:57.480 district. Just to 00:06:57.480 --> 00:07:00.040 give you an overview of what we've approved so far and kind 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:01.079 of the way that 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:04.480 this south side is starting to build out we've approved a 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:05.680 multi-tenant retail 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:09.199 building located here this again this is highway 380 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:12.000 University Drive this is 35. 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:16.470 The first project was multi-tenant retail building located 00:07:16.470 --> 00:07:18.199 here second was 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:22.139 a Chili's located on lot 2 here. Raising Canes was 00:07:22.139 --> 00:07:23.839 immediately adjacent to the 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:27.509 retail building and then the Wynco is here. The site that 00:07:27.509 --> 00:07:28.439 we're looking at 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:33.089 tonight is this one outline outlined in yellow and red. 00:07:33.089 --> 00:07:34.519 Something else I wanted 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:36.910 to point out about the site is some of the east-west 00:07:36.910 --> 00:07:38.839 traffic in the major entry 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:42.850 points of the site. The first one is located here off of 00:07:42.850 --> 00:07:44.759 highway 380 as we 00:07:44.759 --> 00:07:51.110 travel east along highway 380 we're gonna collect traffic 00:07:51.110 --> 00:07:53.079 in here here and 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:57.779 then eventually we'll collect some traffic here but the 00:07:57.779 --> 00:07:59.120 majority of it will 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:02.519 be coming in on these first two entry points. This is also 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:03.800 a major entry point 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:08.449 heritage trail it's gonna be a it's a future secondary 00:08:08.449 --> 00:08:12.639 arterial street. So to 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:14.980 approve a site plan within the Razor Ranch overlay district 00:08:14.980 --> 00:08:15.519 we have four 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:19.040 criteria for approval. The first is that the site plan 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:20.300 substantially complies with 00:08:20.300 --> 00:08:23.160 the concept and schematic plan approved by City Council. 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:24.560 This is where we use look 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:27.540 at your basic land use and your permitted uses. Number two 00:08:27.540 --> 00:08:28.399 that the site 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:32.000 plan provides for a compatible arrangement of buildings and 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:32.559 land uses 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:35.340 that would not adversely affect adjoining neighborhoods or 00:08:35.340 --> 00:08:35.919 properties 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:38.759 outside of the plan. This is where we look at things like 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:40.080 site and building 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:43.320 design as they relate to not only the uses around it but 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:44.519 also to any adjoining 00:08:44.519 --> 00:08:48.179 neighborhood. The third criteria for approval is that the 00:08:48.179 --> 00:08:48.919 site plan provides 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:52.159 for the adequate and safe circulation of vehicular traffic. 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:53.279 Obviously we look at 00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:56.169 the traffic and mobility and the fourth is that the plan 00:08:56.169 --> 00:08:57.440 fully complies with all 00:08:57.440 --> 00:09:00.940 other sections of this overlay district. Two of the major 00:09:00.940 --> 00:09:02.399 ones are the plaza area 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:06.710 requirement. They're required to provide 10 square feet of 00:09:06.710 --> 00:09:07.840 plaza area for every 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.289 thousand square foot of building space and that's just the 00:09:11.289 --> 00:09:12.639 building envelope. 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:17.519 Also we have architectural compatibility criteria. So to 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:19.480 make sure that this site 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:22.120 plan meets all of these criteria we asked for an 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:23.460 architectural and civil 00:09:23.460 --> 00:09:27.399 site plan, landscape plan, and then also building elev 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:29.600 ations. So this is the 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:35.440 request before you today. The site plan is this is North. 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:37.720 University is over here 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:43.279 to the north. This is the building envelope. This is the 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:44.320 parking field and 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:49.210 this right here is the approved Wynko building. So as you 00:09:49.210 --> 00:09:51.059 can see their lot 00:09:51.059 --> 00:09:55.960 coverage they are compatible with the lot coverage and the 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:57.159 landscape area 00:09:57.159 --> 00:10:01.840 requirement. They're over their landscaped area requirement 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:04.519 . Sophie, before you go on. Sure. 00:10:04.519 --> 00:10:08.750 Is this the side of the Wynko that there was a discussion 00:10:08.750 --> 00:10:09.679 about if there was 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:11.740 going to be a future building that would screen that 00:10:11.740 --> 00:10:12.720 somewhat assist that 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:15.360 building? Yes sir I also have that elevation for us. It's 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:18.440 hard to get ahead. No problem. 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:21.629 This is the landscape plan. Again it's in the same 00:10:21.629 --> 00:10:23.559 orientation. Here's the building. 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:28.559 This is the Wynko back here. Again they're providing they 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:29.480 're complying with 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:34.129 our parking lot landscaping and our parking lot tree canopy 00:10:34.129 --> 00:10:35.159 regulations. 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:39.750 Question. Commissioner Detowitz. If I'm looking at that 00:10:39.750 --> 00:10:41.159 correctly and I'm seeing it here 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:45.809 it doesn't butt up against the Wynko. There is a walkway 00:10:45.809 --> 00:10:47.799 behind them? Yes sir. 00:10:47.799 --> 00:10:51.580 Yeah there's a six foot separation and the Razor Range Over 00:10:51.580 --> 00:10:52.840 lay District has an 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:55.190 open mall ordinance that allows for that separation and the 00:10:55.190 --> 00:10:56.120 building official has 00:10:56.120 --> 00:11:00.360 looked at it and said that it complies with that ordinance. 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:03.600 So this time we're 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:06.580 flipping the elevation a little bit so north is off to this 00:11:06.580 --> 00:11:07.360 side. This is a 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:11.139 hardscape and plaza area requirement. As part of their pl 00:11:11.139 --> 00:11:12.440 aza requirement they're 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:16.080 required to provide at least three elements of seven 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:17.039 outlined in the Razor 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:20.279 Ranch Overlay District. They're providing some covered area 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:21.279 using their awnings, 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:26.269 an outdoor dining area on the side of the retail building 00:11:26.269 --> 00:11:27.519 and they're also 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:31.399 doing a lot of hardscape with some integrated landscape 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:33.600 plannings. All of 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:36.090 these pedestrian crossings as well I'll go back to the site 00:11:36.090 --> 00:11:37.519 plan. These will be 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:41.799 done with enhanced pavers they're not just striped. There's 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:43.440 also a bike rack on 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:54.610 the side of the building. So these are the elevations. This 00:11:54.610 --> 00:11:55.960 is the side that 00:11:55.960 --> 00:12:00.240 will be next to Wynko. This is the breezeway back here. 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:02.039 This elevation is 00:12:02.039 --> 00:12:06.269 the north elevation looking south. This is the south 00:12:06.269 --> 00:12:08.440 elevation looking north and 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:13.960 this is the front elevation. Now I'm going to talk about 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:15.039 the architectural 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:20.200 compatibility with the leading project. This was a pad 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:20.840 commonly 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:23.419 referred to as pad 12 when we approved it but it's the 00:12:23.419 --> 00:12:24.639 leading multi-tenant 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:27.539 retail and as you can see it's got some of the same 00:12:27.539 --> 00:12:29.320 geometry building materials 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:33.639 and character as the one coming in. And this is the 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:35.840 approved Wynko elevation to 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:40.070 show you the shaded area of approximately where it will but 00:12:40.070 --> 00:12:42.480 the Wynko. 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:45.769 So just to go through the criteria for approval one more 00:12:45.769 --> 00:12:46.799 time the site plan 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:50.200 does comply with the overall concept and schematic plan. 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:53.159 Retail uses are permitted. 00:12:53.159 --> 00:12:56.779 The site plan also provides a compatible arrangement of 00:12:56.779 --> 00:12:58.360 buildings and land uses. 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:02.159 It's interior to the overall development and it's 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:02.519 surrounded by 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:08.200 other commercial uses. The site plan also provides for the 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:08.919 adequate and safe 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:12.500 circulation of vehicular traffic. It's got shared access 00:13:12.500 --> 00:13:13.519 and internal drive 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:16.960 aisles and there's safe movement for pedestrians and veh 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:17.960 icular traffic. 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:21.399 And the site plan also fully complies with all other 00:13:21.399 --> 00:13:22.960 sections of the overlay 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:27.190 district including architectural compatibility and the pl 00:13:27.190 --> 00:13:28.379 aza area. Staff 00:13:28.379 --> 00:13:31.320 is going to recommend approval of the proposed site plan as 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:32.120 it is consistent 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:36.350 with the Razor Ranch overlay district. Any questions? 00:13:36.350 --> 00:13:37.559 Questions? We just want 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:42.840 questions. Commissioner Dudowitz. Does RED have any tenants 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:43.720 yet signed for that 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:48.110 property? They will be here tonight to answer that. I do 00:13:48.110 --> 00:13:50.240 not know. 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:55.250 Commissioner Tyver. Thank you chair. Could you go back to 00:13:55.250 --> 00:13:56.779 probably I think the 00:13:56.779 --> 00:14:01.429 second map in your presentation the overall what's been 00:14:01.429 --> 00:14:02.519 approved? That one. 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:08.570 And just to remind everybody here and looking forward the 00:14:08.570 --> 00:14:09.600 landscape plan in 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:14.080 this lot looks really good. It has a lot of hardscape, a 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:14.159 lot of hardscape and 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:18.110 landscape brought together. Makes a nice pavilion open 00:14:18.110 --> 00:14:20.120 square area. We had 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:23.620 approved a lot 10 site plan I believe and I know that they 00:14:23.620 --> 00:14:24.679 're planning on 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:30.750 coming back with changes but that also that's the main 00:14:30.750 --> 00:14:32.120 central central pavilion 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:38.210 center to the entire development and I just wanted to 00:14:38.210 --> 00:14:40.519 express my my expectation 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:44.919 that by adding these other pavilions elsewhere we don't 00:14:44.919 --> 00:14:46.240 diminish or reduce 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:52.049 the requirement for that real core central landscape and p 00:14:52.049 --> 00:14:54.120 avilion space. So 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:56.730 I do think that's that's one of the key features that that 00:14:56.730 --> 00:14:57.360 allows some 00:14:57.360 --> 00:15:00.210 flexibility on things like the Winko or the larger lots 00:15:00.210 --> 00:15:01.559 where they might not be 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:06.419 as as paviliony or pedestrian oriented but to know that the 00:15:06.419 --> 00:15:07.559 center of the 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:13.379 development still will be even as it gets redesigned. And I 00:15:13.379 --> 00:15:15.840 had a question for 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:19.559 legal. I just wanted to clarify are there any I think I 00:15:19.559 --> 00:15:20.600 might have missed a meeting 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:25.440 on this so I might have missed content. Is there any 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:27.679 expected changes on the 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:33.879 razor overlay ordinance? Well currently we're negotiating 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:36.559 changes with staff to 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:40.269 see if we can improve the overlay in some way but we have 00:15:40.269 --> 00:15:41.399 not had that in a 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:45.629 finalized form where we could bring it to you yet. Okay but 00:15:45.629 --> 00:15:46.519 that would not affect 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:53.590 the zoning of this parcel. The design will remain the same. 00:15:53.590 --> 00:15:54.039 Thank you. 00:15:54.039 --> 00:16:01.279 Commissioner Back. Yes probably owe this to Mr. Taylor but 00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:04.679 looking at this 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:10.299 picture here this is a large area razor ranch and if it's I 00:16:10.299 --> 00:16:12.799 'm just curious 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:17.860 last meeting you raised the issue of impervious and per 00:16:17.860 --> 00:16:19.360 vious ground 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:22.759 conditions. I just see a lot of concrete going in here and 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:23.960 removing a lot of the 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:27.509 absorbability that we're going to be taking away from this 00:16:27.509 --> 00:16:28.399 area so is any 00:16:28.399 --> 00:16:31.879 consideration been given to this as we move forward not 00:16:31.879 --> 00:16:33.320 just particularly this 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:39.049 one but we're starting obviously and as this expands what's 00:16:39.049 --> 00:16:39.879 going to be the 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:45.840 requirement there for parking space? Sure let me go back to 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:47.519 this diagram this 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:51.360 will help us. Each of these sub areas has their own lot 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:53.240 coverage the impervious 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:58.039 surface area and then also a landscape requirement the 00:16:58.039 --> 00:17:01.870 impervious surface area. As each of these parcels builds 00:17:01.870 --> 00:17:03.240 out we look at not only 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:06.380 lot coverage and landscaped area but we also look at it in 00:17:06.380 --> 00:17:07.279 context of the 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:10.059 overall development and what we know informally from RED 00:17:10.059 --> 00:17:10.839 that is coming 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:15.599 forward. A couple months ago and forgive me I don't know 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:16.319 the month I believe it 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:19.799 was February RED presented to City Council and to the 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:20.440 Planning and Zoning 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:23.490 Commission an overall vision for the razor ranch town 00:17:23.490 --> 00:17:24.720 center core area and 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:28.589 that's the majority of this area here and it not only 00:17:28.589 --> 00:17:30.640 incorporates landscaped 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:33.039 area which is really which is important for your 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:34.640 relationship kind of as you 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:37.259 walk through providing shade your relationship to the 00:17:37.259 --> 00:17:38.160 buildings and how 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:41.680 you move throughout the site so those very minute details 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:42.599 are being considered 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:46.640 at every site plan. So there's something in the works that 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:50.960 's not just going in it? Yes correct yeah we're not this 00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:54.480 this site was designed to kind of mute that 00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:58.329 elevation of Wynko but as we built out and I believe RED 00:17:58.329 --> 00:17:59.559 the applicant can 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:02.660 speak to this a little bit more as this builds out. We also 00:18:02.660 --> 00:18:04.460 do have a vision 00:18:04.460 --> 00:18:07.170 book that was presented to City Council and I can provide 00:18:07.170 --> 00:18:08.240 that to the Planning 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:13.769 and Zoning Commission as well. Thank you. Commissioner 00:18:13.769 --> 00:18:15.519 Hutchibos. Thank you Chair. 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:20.160 Could you bring anyone could you bring us up to speed on so 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:20.759 the other so 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:24.240 Chili's I saw Raising Cane there so understanding it's a ph 00:18:24.240 --> 00:18:24.980 ased approach 00:18:24.980 --> 00:18:29.029 can you give me the the the history of or kind of bring us 00:18:29.029 --> 00:18:30.079 up to speed on I 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:33.680 guess when that phase starts just so I can have an 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:35.759 understanding of the history 00:18:35.759 --> 00:18:39.640 of the project understand it's been ongoing. Okay. Sophie 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:40.480 can you pull up a 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:43.579 map that shows the marketplace campus too so we can show 00:18:43.579 --> 00:18:44.680 what our extent of 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:51.819 the Resarange-Irvillier district? Oh you didn't have it on 00:18:51.819 --> 00:18:57.920 your... No. I think that we can use that. 00:18:58.640 --> 00:19:02.250 This schematic plan or concept plan reflects development to 00:19:02.250 --> 00:19:03.240 the north and to 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:06.240 the south of 380. The north component is the marketplace 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:07.319 where you've already 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:09.779 seen build out with some of your big boxes and some of your 00:19:09.779 --> 00:19:10.599 restaurants and 00:19:10.599 --> 00:19:14.460 smaller retail spaces as well. To the south is what we've 00:19:14.460 --> 00:19:16.119 started seeing more 00:19:16.119 --> 00:19:20.059 recently. The Resarange-Irvillier district was adopted to 00:19:20.059 --> 00:19:21.200 enable the 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:26.559 development of mixed use mixed juices and primarily compr 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:28.519 ising of retail uses 00:19:28.519 --> 00:19:31.210 if you look at that shaded drawing that's before you I don 00:19:31.210 --> 00:19:31.940 't know if you 00:19:31.940 --> 00:19:34.750 can read it but their components in that that reflect RR1 00:19:34.750 --> 00:19:36.400 and RR2. Within that 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:39.849 overlay district we did a deeper dive and we evaluated what 00:19:39.849 --> 00:19:40.400 uses are 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:44.029 appropriate within that color coded map. Based on that 00:19:44.029 --> 00:19:45.559 color coding each 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:48.240 development that comes in for site plan approval has to be 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:49.160 has to come before 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:52.789 the P&Z for approval to the south. That being said along 00:19:52.789 --> 00:19:54.039 the frontages of the 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:56.349 right-of-ways you potentially have retail you have 00:19:56.349 --> 00:19:57.400 restaurants which you're 00:19:57.400 --> 00:20:00.019 seeing already such as the Chili's and what have you. We 00:20:00.019 --> 00:20:01.160 also have which Sophie 00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:03.430 mentioned the vision book which is the town center in 00:20:03.430 --> 00:20:04.839 itself which would be 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:11.000 located in the RR1 component. If we go to the pseudo-plat 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:12.279 drawing 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:16.210 Sophie is going to use her cursor and kind of draw the 00:20:16.210 --> 00:20:17.720 football shape as 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:22.809 everybody calls it here of the town center. That would 00:20:22.809 --> 00:20:23.559 comprise... correct 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:29.519 Sophie go ahead. This is the main drive as you enter the 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:29.920 main 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:35.319 town center then these are all retail around the outside. 00:20:35.319 --> 00:20:38.380 With a plaza within 00:20:38.380 --> 00:20:41.549 that component and then we have potential larger 00:20:41.549 --> 00:20:43.400 developments within the 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:46.250 future lot 10 that you can see and then smaller pad sites 00:20:46.250 --> 00:20:47.519 along 35 your typical 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:51.759 development pattern. The uses that come before you are v 00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:53.319 etted the site plans are 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:55.690 vetted they go through an extensive development review 00:20:55.690 --> 00:20:56.559 process and then they 00:20:56.559 --> 00:20:59.960 come before you want you know showing compliance with the 00:20:59.960 --> 00:21:01.039 overlay district 00:21:01.039 --> 00:21:06.390 conditions and requirements. All right. Can I just follow 00:21:06.390 --> 00:21:07.240 up? Commissioner Dadaway. 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:13.339 To help as we looked at this site plan for this retail that 00:21:13.339 --> 00:21:14.279 we saw tonight we 00:21:14.279 --> 00:21:18.039 did the same thing early on that one red square called 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:19.160 retail and we looked at 00:21:19.160 --> 00:21:21.920 elevations and we looked at the parking lot we looked at 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:22.839 the trees we looked at 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:25.960 the sidewalks bicycle racks and we did the same thing with 00:21:25.960 --> 00:21:27.440 chilies and raising 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:31.460 cane so for your information and we're doing the same thing 00:21:31.460 --> 00:21:32.200 today as we have 00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:34.960 done for each of those and I have to tell you some of those 00:21:34.960 --> 00:21:35.599 were really 00:21:35.599 --> 00:21:38.109 questioned if we had enough trees in there if the sidewalks 00:21:38.109 --> 00:21:38.799 were properly 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:43.160 placed and the pedestrian crosswalks were correct so this 00:21:43.160 --> 00:21:44.000 Commission has gone 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:47.839 through that fairly extensively but if you have anything 00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:48.759 else I'm going to go 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:51.329 back to notes and bring you up to speed on that but I think 00:21:51.329 --> 00:21:52.200 that'll give you a 00:21:52.200 --> 00:21:56.519 feel that yeah we're looking at everything. Sure. Thank you 00:21:56.519 --> 00:21:59.079 . Sure. 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:08.960 Any other questions on this item? Thank you. I move on to 00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:12.039 public hearing items. 00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:18.759 We will discuss the final report then we have questions of 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:26.200 regarding to Judy's request. We'll have the Z15-0022 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:28.880 presentation. 00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:39.009 Good evening I'm Julie Wyatt and this is Z15-22 Hall 00:22:39.009 --> 00:22:42.160 Edition. So this request is to 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:45.309 rezone the subject property from Regional Center Commercial 00:22:45.309 --> 00:22:46.720 Downtown to 00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:50.680 Employment Center Industrial and it's approximately one and 00:22:50.680 --> 00:22:52.480 a half acres. The 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:58.359 subject property is north of Shuler Street and it is west 00:22:58.359 --> 00:23:00.720 of I-35. I'm just 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.420 to give you a little bit of background the property was rez 00:23:03.420 --> 00:23:04.839 oned from Regional 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:10.089 Center Commercial Neighborhood RCCN to its current RCCD in 00:23:10.089 --> 00:23:12.839 2011. That was under 00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:17.359 the previous comprehensive plan the Denton plan and that 00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:18.680 that made sense at 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:24.289 the time because the Denton plan had this as regional mixed 00:23:24.289 --> 00:23:26.279 -use center so so 00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:29.000 that rezoning made sense the intent of regional mixed-use 00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:29.680 center if you 00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:33.950 remember was to include shopping entertainment and 00:23:33.950 --> 00:23:35.680 employment uses for a 00:23:35.680 --> 00:23:39.960 regional scale and so when you think of that you should 00:23:39.960 --> 00:23:41.559 think mall or razor 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:46.190 ranch but as the property and as the area has developed it 00:23:46.190 --> 00:23:47.119 's developed with 00:23:47.119 --> 00:23:52.000 with commercial uses along I-35 but also in more industrial 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:54.119 uses as you move to 00:23:54.119 --> 00:23:57.900 the west there is a railroad track right here so so as as 00:23:57.900 --> 00:23:58.960 you move to the west 00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:02.029 the uses have kind of changed so a little more industrial 00:24:02.029 --> 00:24:03.920 uses so with that 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:09.279 information when the Denton plan 2030 was was being 00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:11.599 developed and they looked 00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:14.299 at this area and determined maybe that future land use 00:24:14.299 --> 00:24:15.519 designation wasn't the 00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.519 most most appropriate future land use designation for this 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:19.359 area and in fact 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:21.900 business innovation would be more appropriate business 00:24:21.900 --> 00:24:22.799 innovation is 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:27.180 intended to have large office parks employment centers and 00:24:27.180 --> 00:24:28.759 also to have a 00:24:28.759 --> 00:24:35.250 associated in a complementary retail and services so so the 00:24:35.250 --> 00:24:36.079 the future land use 00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:40.299 designation is that business innovation now so the the 00:24:40.299 --> 00:24:42.000 current zoning as I said 00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:47.079 is RCCD the proposed zoning is is ECI and and as you can 00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:47.960 see that's a that's a 00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:53.480 logical extension of the ECI that was rezoned earlier in 00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:55.759 this year and the 00:24:55.759 --> 00:25:00.799 applicant has come come back to to extend that that that EC 00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:02.079 I when you look 00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:04.690 at the two zoning districts they have a lot of similarities 00:25:04.690 --> 00:25:07.920 RCCD and ECI RCCD 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:14.559 has a broad amount of commercial uses as does ECI RCCD does 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:16.200 however have a 00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:20.869 residential component it does have a mixed use or I'm sorry 00:25:20.869 --> 00:25:21.880 a multifamily use 00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:25.279 that is permitted with a limitation ECI doesn't have a 00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:26.920 residential component but 00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:31.940 it does add some more industrial uses some light industrial 00:25:31.940 --> 00:25:32.880 and some 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:38.670 warehouse uses that RCCD doesn't have so when we looked at 00:25:38.670 --> 00:25:39.720 so when staff 00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:44.359 analyzed the request we looked at some considerations first 00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:45.559 ECI really is more 00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:49.200 appropriate for the development pattern that has evolved in 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:50.880 this area it really 00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:54.470 does speak to the the existing uses and it sort of 00:25:54.470 --> 00:25:55.680 continues that existing 00:25:55.680 --> 00:26:00.119 development pattern the permitted uses in ECI offer more 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:01.319 flexibility for future 00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:06.210 development when it was rezoned in in 2011 that was to 00:26:06.210 --> 00:26:08.039 permit a vehicle repair 00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:12.380 use that that tenant is still there they're still operating 00:26:12.380 --> 00:26:12.980 the vehicle 00:26:12.980 --> 00:26:15.549 repair use on the site but they wanted to have that 00:26:15.549 --> 00:26:16.880 flexibility in case the 00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:20.569 technology in their industry changed and evolved or if the 00:26:20.569 --> 00:26:21.960 property owner if they 00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:24.210 left and the property owner wanted to redevelop the 00:26:24.210 --> 00:26:25.880 property and ECI gives a 00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:29.539 little more flexibility in and offering a few more of those 00:26:29.539 --> 00:26:31.079 light industrial uses 00:26:31.079 --> 00:26:34.519 so that they could respond to any more market conditions 00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:35.640 and also to 00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:39.230 continue that land use pattern that's already begun in the 00:26:39.230 --> 00:26:41.039 area ECI does meet 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:43.519 the intent of business and of the business innovation 00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:44.079 future land use 00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:47.559 designation once again because it it allows the employment 00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:48.480 center uses but it 00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:53.599 also permits those commercial uses that are that are also 00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:55.640 embedded in the current 00:26:55.640 --> 00:27:00.000 RCCD which are complementary to those employment centers 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:01.599 the criteria for 00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:05.240 approval for rezoning is in sub chapter 3 of the debt and 00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:06.640 development code first 00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:09.369 that it conforms to the future land use element and and 00:27:09.369 --> 00:27:10.559 this request does and 00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:14.009 then also that the proposed rezoning does facilitate the 00:27:14.009 --> 00:27:15.160 adequate provision of 00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:19.440 public infrastructure which it does public notification was 00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:20.680 sent out and we 00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:26.180 received no notices in favor or in opposition other than 00:27:26.180 --> 00:27:28.480 the property owner 00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:33.130 so based upon the considerations that I've discussed as 00:27:33.130 --> 00:27:34.359 well as the criteria 00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:37.430 for approval in sub chapter 3 staff does recommend approval 00:27:37.430 --> 00:27:39.759 of this request 00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:44.259 questions questions Commissioner Dudowitz yes refresh my 00:27:44.259 --> 00:27:46.319 memory RCC - in 00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:50.549 yes which is the zoning that's up in there what's what's 00:27:50.549 --> 00:27:52.000 printed in that area 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:56.049 what's the difference between that and D RCC in is a little 00:27:56.049 --> 00:27:57.400 less intense than 00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:01.720 RCCD so it's it's still a regional commercial zoning 00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:03.400 district but it has 00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:10.960 just a few less intense uses than RCCD so if we approve ECI 00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:12.720 up there then that's 00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:16.680 going to encroach into RCC and so future rezoning issues 00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:18.160 make a rise because of 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:21.039 that designation well if there was a redevelopment of the R 00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:22.440 CC and they would 00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:25.869 be required to meet any buffer buffers that are required in 00:28:25.869 --> 00:28:27.119 sub chapter 13 of 00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:29.559 the Denton development code so it is something that staff 00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:30.359 is aware of and we 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.759 did discuss internally but but with the buff the landscape 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:34.519 buffers that are 00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:38.279 acquired with with the Denton development code and also 00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:39.400 just the 00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:41.799 commercial uses that are permitted in both we felt like it 00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:43.000 was an appropriate 00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:50.000 appropriate rezoning Commissioner Beck thank you mr. chair 00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:53.420 isn't there a housing a small housing development in that 00:28:53.420 --> 00:28:54.279 area there is 00:28:54.279 --> 00:29:01.480 housing off Shiler or Skyler there there isn't a housing 00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:02.720 development here there 00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:06.240 is this is a charter school any redevelopment of this site 00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:06.920 once again 00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:10.039 would require any buffers in accordance with the Denton 00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:11.200 development code there 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:14.849 is some some low density residential on the other side of 00:29:14.849 --> 00:29:16.319 this of these railroad 00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:19.880 tracks here but you don't access those except about 380 00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:21.039 that is a barrier the 00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:24.440 the railroad tracks and so there's no there's no access 00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:27.640 okay is there room you 00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:31.599 mentioned the possibility of residential here multi-family 00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:32.720 and single-family but 00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:37.099 is that a realistic single-family is not permitted in those 00:29:37.099 --> 00:29:37.799 zoning districts 00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:41.730 multi-family is permitted in RCC D it does require it does 00:29:41.730 --> 00:29:42.359 have a limitation 00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:47.099 and what that the project must be either mixed use and meet 00:29:47.099 --> 00:29:47.960 the definition of 00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:51.920 mixed use or or obtain a specific use permit so there are 00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:53.440 additional hurdles 00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:56.960 that they would have to a property owner within that zoning 00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:57.799 district would have to 00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:01.339 overcome to develop a property with multi-family but it is 00:30:01.339 --> 00:30:02.359 a permitted use 00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:06.240 and and could be compatible within that zoning district 00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:07.279 okay and one last 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:12.089 question traffic flow if this area takes all means of e 00:30:12.089 --> 00:30:13.920 gress and ingress are 00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:18.849 purely the service road on 35 and Mesa any plans to open 00:30:18.849 --> 00:30:21.000 something else up or 00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:25.230 I'm gonna ask Earl Escobar up to the podium to see if he if 00:30:25.230 --> 00:30:26.480 the mobility plan 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:30.920 if there are any additional connections that are proposed 00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:33.240 for the area okay so 00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:36.200 do we see any problems with that I mean again this area 00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:37.559 would have to take off 00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:40.990 but if it really gets busy and it brings in a lot of 00:30:40.990 --> 00:30:43.119 traffic that's gonna burden 00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:46.230 those I go over I've got my pets over there on Mesa Road I 00:30:46.230 --> 00:30:49.079 'm familiar with it a little bit are there any 00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:53.130 future considerations about how to deal with it if we do 00:30:53.130 --> 00:30:53.880 well and they may have 00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:57.119 to revise the mobility plan based upon any additional 00:30:57.119 --> 00:30:58.519 development that that 00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:02.640 goes out there if I can interject as development occurs 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:03.880 this is a large tract 00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.130 I understand but as development does occur or rezonings 00:31:07.130 --> 00:31:08.140 occur we will 00:31:08.140 --> 00:31:10.799 obviously have to take that into consideration as property 00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:11.359 is plotted 00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:14.240 understanding the access depending on the size of the 00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:15.079 property will be 00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:17.609 required internal access easements that step out to other 00:31:17.609 --> 00:31:18.680 properties that would 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:21.460 alleviate the flow in different sections of the right of 00:31:21.460 --> 00:31:23.359 way for example so those 00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:26.309 items the infrastructure the load or the level of service 00:31:26.309 --> 00:31:27.279 on the right of ways 00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:30.119 would be addressed at the planning stage regardless or if a 00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:31.200 zoning case came up 00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:33.769 where we understood that there could be a negative impact 00:31:33.769 --> 00:31:34.640 what would be the 00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:38.509 measures that would be taken to mitigate that would also be 00:31:38.509 --> 00:31:39.279 addressed 00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:48.029 Thank you. Commissioner Taylor. Thank you Chair. So every 00:31:48.029 --> 00:31:51.440 time we do a rezoning over 00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:55.670 here I bring this up this area and especially as you go 00:31:55.670 --> 00:31:56.680 down Mesa this 00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:59.130 area here there's a lot of open space so that could be 00:31:59.130 --> 00:32:00.240 built as anything in 00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:03.680 theory but if you go down Mesa you have a lot of kind of 00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:04.960 light industrial 00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:09.190 employment center type uses you have a welding supply shop 00:32:09.190 --> 00:32:10.119 some business 00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:13.890 supply shops some kind of construction company all of these 00:32:13.890 --> 00:32:14.680 things that that 00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:18.079 really probably don't lean very much toward business 00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:19.400 innovation but lean more 00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:21.910 toward traditional light industrial employment center and 00:32:21.910 --> 00:32:23.000 we're leaving 00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:29.559 everything in Mesa still zoned what is this RCCD which is 00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:30.839 kind of mixed-use 00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:37.160 retail apartments and office buildings which which is kind 00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:37.880 of a stretch for 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:42.200 these low you know kind of spread out industrial buildings 00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:44.640 and and we are just 00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:47.880 and the worst part is we're so we're kind of piecing this 00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:49.000 together into 00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.980 eventually probably a light industrial area but we're doing 00:32:52.980 --> 00:32:54.240 it at the edges 00:32:54.240 --> 00:33:01.789 against RCCN which is apartments duplexes and retail and 00:33:01.789 --> 00:33:03.799 small offices so 00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:08.640 we're pushing the conflicting uses together but we're not 00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:09.640 fixing the zoning 00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:13.039 to the south and we are ending up with this little strip 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.359 200 feet wide 150 feet 00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:18.880 wide or whatever it is zoned to a more intensive use 00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:20.240 surrounded by what in 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.079 theory could be residential I don't think anybody's gonna 00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:22.759 build an apartment 00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:26.730 complex over there but that's kind of its intended use so I 00:33:26.730 --> 00:33:28.880 think that we need 00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:32.339 to and we could draw a line basically just at the edge of 00:33:32.339 --> 00:33:33.519 this property or 00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:38.240 those properties yeah right there kind of just to the north 00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:39.880 end and say maybe 00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:43.279 that's where we think the light industrial should end and 00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:43.839 then make 00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:47.440 everything north of their business innovation and then take 00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:48.359 this triangle 00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:53.000 down here and move it to what it already is and and the way 00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:54.279 it's being developed 00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:58.369 now which is more of like a light industrial I think there 00:33:58.369 --> 00:33:59.319 's room for light 00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:02.289 industrial within business innovation the comp plan does 00:34:02.289 --> 00:34:03.079 mention light 00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:06.569 industrial and we talked about that actually this morning 00:34:06.569 --> 00:34:07.339 in terms of a 00:34:07.339 --> 00:34:10.369 micro level and then a macro level for this entire business 00:34:10.369 --> 00:34:12.360 innovation area so 00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:17.010 when we're looking at it approximately this area and you're 00:34:17.010 --> 00:34:18.239 right this area 00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:21.429 has sort of developed with a light industrial character so 00:34:21.429 --> 00:34:23.079 when we look at 00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:26.500 the micro level that might be the more light industrial 00:34:26.500 --> 00:34:27.599 portion of the business 00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:32.309 in it business innovation but we we felt like there was 00:34:32.309 --> 00:34:34.079 room for all the the 00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:38.889 corporate campus that the employment office park may then 00:34:38.889 --> 00:34:40.260 be going more to 00:34:40.260 --> 00:34:44.550 the north and then along 35 more commercial uses so and 00:34:44.550 --> 00:34:45.719 then all may want 00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:48.650 to add to that as well but that's kind of what we talked 00:34:48.650 --> 00:34:49.840 about internally so 00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:54.469 absolutely Julie one of the things one of the items that 00:34:54.469 --> 00:34:55.440 you brought forward as 00:34:55.440 --> 00:35:00.079 a discussion topic is absolutely valid the question is when 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:01.199 we look at just 00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:04.599 this subject site is it appropriate and beyond that what 00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:05.880 should we do to ensure 00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:09.719 we meet the intent and the vision that is proposed that 00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:11.079 would require for 00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:15.869 example a city initiated zoning to bring all that in and we 00:35:15.869 --> 00:35:17.960 are now as we you 00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:20.670 know embark on the implementation of the comp plan there's 00:35:20.670 --> 00:35:22.039 one of the items that 00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.630 we're going to start addressing eminently so we do 00:35:24.630 --> 00:35:26.079 anticipate that we've 00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:31.039 got within the city areas that need to be brought together 00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:32.519 under one consistent 00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:36.840 zoning to meet and accommodate what is proposed in the 00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:38.920 future so I'm hearing 00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:44.510 that eminently we are looking to rezone all of the areas 00:35:44.510 --> 00:35:47.360 west of Mesa and 00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:52.010 whatever that street is right there to be more consistent 00:35:52.010 --> 00:35:53.360 with the current 00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:58.559 development pattern in conjunction with implementing and 00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:01.599 when we realize the 00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:04.300 comp plan and the elements associated with it does it 00:36:04.300 --> 00:36:07.679 actually fit together so 00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:10.190 we're tasked with two things one is to look at a property 00:36:10.190 --> 00:36:11.239 owner who brings in a 00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:16.349 request to rezone a property for a square and I'm saying 00:36:16.349 --> 00:36:18.000 that for a reason 00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:22.280 that zoned RCCD that was pulled out of RCCN and rezone to R 00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:23.639 CCD yet we know 00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.469 that the more light industrial type business innovation in 00:36:27.469 --> 00:36:28.199 the future is 00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:31.639 more viable given the location of these properties as well 00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:33.000 so we're tasked with 00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:35.650 now evaluating with the implementation of the comp plan how 00:36:35.650 --> 00:36:36.400 do we meet these 00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:40.019 goals and objectives one of the ways to do it is to move 00:36:40.019 --> 00:36:41.480 forward with the city 00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:45.920 initiative zoning but again that needs to be flushed and 00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:47.559 discussed very openly 00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:51.500 and transparently with yourselves and ultimately the City 00:36:51.500 --> 00:36:52.079 Council 00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:06.050 no I said eminently now because I can't give you a date 00:37:06.050 --> 00:37:07.880 right now but I can tell 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:11.420 you this that they are projected dates that are in draft 00:37:11.420 --> 00:37:13.360 form right now that 00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:17.650 will be formalized within the next couple of months thank 00:37:17.650 --> 00:37:20.599 you any other 00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:29.739 questions on this item or this topic thank you and I move 00:37:29.739 --> 00:37:31.199 back I think I may 00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:37.039 have skipped we got kicked off the before I get to those I 00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:38.960 skipped over the two 00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:43.780 minutes were there any questions or corrections that we 00:37:43.780 --> 00:37:44.280 need to talk about 00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:48.579 on that before we get into public I commissioner Dudowitz I 00:37:48.579 --> 00:37:50.960 would like to 00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:57.099 ask that we get the minutes at appropriate time because 00:37:57.099 --> 00:37:58.119 going back now 00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:01.599 month to recall what was said and done it's very difficult 00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:02.679 when we see these 00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:06.639 minutes a month later I know it's staff issues but it 00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:07.840 really you know for us to 00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.860 look at these minutes and say hey was that what was said 00:38:10.860 --> 00:38:12.039 and attended it's a 00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:14.539 little bit difficult when it's a month out I'm sorry but I 00:38:14.539 --> 00:38:15.400 would like to get 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:20.050 them on a timely basis so we can review them and you know 00:38:20.050 --> 00:38:21.360 do our Bentley job on 00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:28.039 them and just kind of from up yes I'm sorry 00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:33.440 it's mr. headless thank you sure I did have one one point 00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:34.559 and so it would be 00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:49.679 page 11 line 41 the the content I think is a little off I 00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:50.719 was specifically 00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:57.329 speaking to that property that if that particular mr. Kelso 00:38:57.329 --> 00:38:59.199 's plan is to move 00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:04.030 towards retail specifically city should city or mr. Kelso 00:39:04.030 --> 00:39:06.079 should arrange to meet 00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:10.440 specifically with respect to that property because that's 00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:11.199 something he's 00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:15.000 indicated he's going to do it seems almost imminent that he 00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:15.679 's going to 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:23.289 request that at some point so it seems what's the word pr 00:39:23.289 --> 00:39:24.719 udent I guess if you 00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:28.730 will to go ahead and initiate that comes I don't know how 00:39:28.730 --> 00:39:30.559 that process works if 00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:36.739 we if we as a board have to wait for mr. Kelso to approach 00:39:36.739 --> 00:39:38.239 us then that's one 00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:41.840 thing but I would like it just in the minutes to kind of 00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:44.400 more point towards 00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:48.719 then that I would I requested they reach out to us whatever 00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:49.800 that I don't know 00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:55.909 what the the proper process is but I just don't think it's 00:39:55.909 --> 00:39:57.679 efficient to if 00:39:57.679 --> 00:39:59.980 it's going to be a long conversation we should probably 00:39:59.980 --> 00:40:00.800 have it sooner than 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:05.119 later point of clarification are you is the statement on 00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:06.400 line 41 incorrect 00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:09.059 because what we can do is go back and listen to the minutes 00:40:09.059 --> 00:40:09.920 one more time and 00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:12.920 revise that to reply I understand what you were saying yes 00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:13.760 so Athene and I will 00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:17.159 sit down and modify that line yes that I think this is a 00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:18.079 little more broad 00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:21.250 general it's a more general statement then we'll then 00:40:21.250 --> 00:40:22.000 specific say we'll 00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:25.679 rectify that okay thank you so on this particular point of 00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:26.519 minister we go ahead 00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:28.960 and approve it or we're going to need to push this back it 00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:30.159 's the Commission's 00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:34.159 decision to either note it with that correction the 00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:35.239 vacation exaction okay 00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:39.469 all right and kind of the point of order for me since we 00:40:39.469 --> 00:40:40.280 have these as two 00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:42.719 separate items I assume the reason that we do is because 00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:43.719 some commissioners 00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:46.849 weren't here for the 19th and so they'll probably want to 00:40:46.849 --> 00:40:48.079 recuse themselves on 00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:51.559 that vote but then on the second when we call for that 00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:52.480 since you all were in 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:54.820 attendance and part of the Commission we would vote at that 00:40:54.820 --> 00:40:56.760 time okay all right 00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:59.909 is there anything else that we missed that we need to cover 00:40:59.909 --> 00:41:00.920 before we go back 00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:05.320 and start with I legislate and also then on the travel 00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:09.280 demand model anything else 00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:15.059 just as any in the clarification of time I see we have food 00:41:15.059 --> 00:41:17.760 this evening how long 00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:20.539 will it take to do the I legislate update we want to do 00:41:20.539 --> 00:41:21.559 that and then break 00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:27.050 for food and then come back and do the travel while we eat 00:41:27.050 --> 00:41:29.119 okay let's let's 00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:36.079 move on to the I legislate presentation 00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:42.280 , okay. 00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:23.519 Good afternoon Commissioners. I just have a brief brief 00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:25.960 training for you to get 00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:29.389 familiar with the new software that we will be using for 00:42:29.389 --> 00:42:30.719 you to download to see 00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:34.949 packets in front of you if you can pull up your iPads and I 00:42:34.949 --> 00:42:35.960 'll walk you through 00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:39.050 the steps of it and you also will have a tiny little cutout 00:42:39.050 --> 00:42:40.079 on your desk that's 00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:44.730 going to give you your login and password that you will 00:42:44.730 --> 00:42:48.039 need so on your 00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:51.719 desktop for your iPad you should see an app that is I 00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:53.480 legislate if you can 00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:56.599 select that one for me 00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:02.119 do you each have one? 00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:07.679 The next steps are going to be for you to download it it 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:08.639 should give you the 00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:11.639 option to log in 00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:17.440 and that's where you will for the site you'll do the ditten 00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:18.400 - texas tx dot 00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:21.400 granicus dot com 00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:38.360 , okay. 00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:06.800 Will the dropbox be gone then? We will still use the drop 00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:14.000 box but you're 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.760 primarily going to use the I legislate. Dropbox will pretty 00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:17.519 much be a backup 00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:17.519 source for you. The DCC document will be in this format 00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:22.840 also? They'll be in the 00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:22.840 dropbox. It won't go in my I legislate. I legislate as for 00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:29.880 upcoming agendas. So 00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:33.170 going back and forth they'll be having to bring them both 00:44:33.170 --> 00:44:34.239 up at the same time 00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:41.409 and try to. Okay are you all in? Do you have a screen that 00:44:41.409 --> 00:44:42.199 is similar to this? 00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:47.320 So your most recent ones are going to be towards the top 00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:48.760 you will see other 00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:51.289 boards and commissions in here but like you see you should 00:44:51.289 --> 00:44:52.199 see the Planning and 00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:55.369 Zoning Commission for this meeting if you just double click 00:44:55.369 --> 00:44:56.800 on it it's going 00:44:56.800 --> 00:45:02.849 to take you to the agenda and what you see it's going to be 00:45:02.849 --> 00:45:04.880 similar to the PDF 00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:09.349 documents that you receive in Dropbox. You can scroll up 00:45:09.349 --> 00:45:10.760 and down through the 00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:14.880 agenda through the items that are listed and you can 00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:17.320 utilize the paper clips 00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:20.880 that are listed next to the caption to pull up the actual 00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:22.440 backup materials. It 00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:26.760 will give you access to pull up the AIS and each exhibit. 00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:28.119 Now you will see these 00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:31.079 are going to be separate than before you will be able to 00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:32.599 pull up the AIS and each 00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:38.840 exhibit in a completely separate PDF document. 00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:53.940 There should be the agendas. Yes. So is there a way to when 00:45:53.940 --> 00:45:55.719 you go into if I'm 00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:59.260 looking at it like a PDF like the minutes can I search the 00:45:59.260 --> 00:46:00.679 text? I can't 00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:03.920 I can't seem to find the link and I don't know if I'm not 00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:05.320 searching a PDF. 00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:09.550 You should be able to go to and it says find and then you 00:46:09.550 --> 00:46:10.519 can type in there. 00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:17.050 Yeah so that's kind of what I'm looking for. Like inside 00:46:17.050 --> 00:46:21.809 the minutes. I can't find the find but I don't know where I 00:46:21.809 --> 00:46:23.320 'm supposed to look. 00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:26.440 Let's research that. Yeah I can send you some pointers and 00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:27.320 things just like 00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:29.239 Commissioner Dutta what's brought up some things that we 00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:29.719 haven't really 00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:32.329 thought about with the different software. The other thing 00:46:32.329 --> 00:46:33.960 that I what's very nice 00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:37.730 in the Dropbox format we can see all the tiles and then we 00:46:37.730 --> 00:46:38.719 can go to one real 00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:41.989 quick. Will we be able to do that here? You can do that 00:46:41.989 --> 00:46:42.719 from this one as well. 00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:45.670 You can select whichever one you want to go to and it's 00:46:45.670 --> 00:46:47.039 going to take you to that 00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:50.239 item and you can instantly open up the AIS and that's the 00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:51.920 paper clips. Yes. Okay 00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:55.889 but there's nothing. It's the entire line the entire 00:46:55.889 --> 00:46:59.840 paragraph. So like 00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:02.289 Commissioner Bruegel brought up you can bring you can type 00:47:02.289 --> 00:47:03.519 notes in here nobody 00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:06.090 else will see your notes or comments that you want to put 00:47:06.090 --> 00:47:06.880 in here besides 00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:12.070 yourself. You can save the notes. You can bookmark the 00:47:12.070 --> 00:47:13.880 items kind of like setting 00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:18.179 it as a favorite and go back to it. You can toggle back and 00:47:18.179 --> 00:47:19.280 forth easier to 00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:22.679 those items. And Athenia those the notes that we're typing 00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:24.159 will those then be 00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:31.250 accessible for public records requests? Yes. Yeah okay good 00:47:31.250 --> 00:47:31.760 . 00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:42.639 Good or bad? At the bottom middle of the screen. The lower 00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:43.480 middle portion of the 00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:45.980 screen it says notes so you could click on that and refer 00:47:45.980 --> 00:47:46.840 to any of the notes 00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:50.530 that you've made and it'll pull all those up easily. The 00:47:50.530 --> 00:47:51.480 same thing with 00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:56.639 there's a bookmarks tab down there and that is pretty much 00:47:56.639 --> 00:47:58.199 it. Other than 00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:01.769 figuring out which process works best for Dropbox and 00:48:01.769 --> 00:48:04.360 backup materials. Any 00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:06.869 questions? Yeah how do I get back from that screen? And 00:48:06.869 --> 00:48:07.760 once you've logged in 00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:11.159 you should not need to log in again. Okay. You can hold on 00:48:11.159 --> 00:48:12.119 to that if you want or I 00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:14.389 can email you each year to log in information but you 00:48:14.389 --> 00:48:15.360 shouldn't need to do 00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:20.050 it each time. So one time and we're done okay? One time I 00:48:20.050 --> 00:48:21.280 mean if you get out of 00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:24.559 this and once you close the iLegislate app you won't have 00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:25.280 to you shouldn't have 00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:30.650 to log back in when you go back in there. Commissioner H 00:48:30.650 --> 00:48:34.119 atchbett. Thank you. 00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:40.170 Mr. Chair is this iLegislate app proprietary? Do I have to 00:48:40.170 --> 00:48:40.920 keep it only 00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:47.849 on this iPad? Is it available? I will. For example if I'm 00:48:47.849 --> 00:48:51.519 on my PC can I get to it or? 00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:57.079 That's a licensing issue. In addition please keep in mind 00:48:57.079 --> 00:48:57.800 whatever you 00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:01.599 receive as a packet and if there's an open records request 00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:02.519 you have to be aware 00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:04.920 of that too so you may want to keep it on. So we can double 00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:05.760 check the licensing 00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:18.400 issue for you. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I think before 00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:21.440 we receive our update 00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:26.280 on our travel demand model we have food so I think at this 00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:28.280 time it'll be 550. 00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:31.829 We'll take a break a five minute break at our work session 00:49:31.829 --> 00:49:33.079 to get food and 00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:37.079 prepare for the travel demand model. 00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:53.780 Mr. Arora to go ahead and make the presentation. Thank you. 00:49:53.780 --> 00:49:57.159 Good evening 00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:03.210 commissioners. Now I had done this presentation previously 00:50:03.210 --> 00:50:04.159 about two 00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:04.159 times. First time we brought you a little more detail on 00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:10.400 the computer model, 00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:10.400 different modeling runs we had done and the LOS levels in 00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:18.039 the streets. Last time 00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:22.269 we brought information on the complete streets process, 00:50:22.269 --> 00:50:23.400 context sensitive 00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:27.119 solutions which is really not a part of the mobility plan 00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:28.480 but at the request of 00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:30.989 the Commission I had brought that information. Today for 00:50:30.989 --> 00:50:32.119 the benefit of the 00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:37.179 new members what I'm going to try and do is give you a good 00:50:37.179 --> 00:50:39.239 overview of where we 00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:43.610 are going and why we need to have this project which is the 00:50:43.610 --> 00:50:44.719 update with the 00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:48.119 mobility plan and as to why we are doing it at this time. 00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:49.880 So with that we'll 00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:54.559 proceed on it. Why the update the mobility plan? You know 00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:55.440 mobility plan is 00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:58.889 really the road network that we have in the city. All these 00:50:58.889 --> 00:51:00.320 streets that we have 00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:03.559 is the primary arterials which are six lane highways, 00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:05.239 secondary arterials which 00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:08.650 are four lane highways, then we have collector streets 00:51:08.650 --> 00:51:09.960 which are in the city 00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:14.829 in the commercial areas. So those that's a network of 00:51:14.829 --> 00:51:16.400 streets and that 00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:21.530 collectively is called a mobility plan. We do have one 00:51:21.530 --> 00:51:22.639 right now there's a 00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:26.539 distinct mobility plan which has been there. Currently it 00:51:26.539 --> 00:51:27.280 is a little bit 00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:30.570 outdated, it's not been updated for some time and I'll show 00:51:30.570 --> 00:51:32.440 you what is it that 00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:36.000 we already have approved that is not part of it right now 00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.400 and why we need to 00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:44.239 update it at this time. What we are in the process of right 00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:46.039 now is to implement 00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:49.909 road impact fees in the city. We have impact fees for water 00:51:49.909 --> 00:51:51.679 and wastewater and 00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:56.210 we are moving towards road impact fees. We had a project 00:51:56.210 --> 00:51:57.880 that was approved by 00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:01.920 the council last year for implementation of the road impact 00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:03.599 fees and for that 00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:07.440 what I'm going to do is I'll acknowledge Jeff Whitaker. He 00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:08.639 is our project manager 00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:13.079 with Kimley Horn. Kimley Horn is the company we selected to 00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:14.800 do the study, do 00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:20.340 the calculations, to do the road impact fee implementation. 00:52:20.340 --> 00:52:21.760 Road impact fees 00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:25.159 are essentially if a new development comes in, a new 00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:26.719 project is proposed, 00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:31.969 we look at what is the impact of that on the street system. 00:52:31.969 --> 00:52:33.800 So the impact that is 00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:37.670 caused by that new project, new development, there is 00:52:37.670 --> 00:52:38.920 assessment of some 00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:42.849 fees for the road improvement. That is what this would do. 00:52:42.849 --> 00:52:43.519 So there's a 00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:46.579 calculation, there's a methodology which we will come back 00:52:46.579 --> 00:52:47.760 at you later on and 00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:52.409 since you are the capital improvement advisory committee as 00:52:52.409 --> 00:52:52.920 part of the 00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:56.039 ordinance, so I'll be coming back at you later on for the 00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:57.000 road impact fee 00:52:57.000 --> 00:52:59.949 calculations and we'll be showing that to you. Today we are 00:52:59.949 --> 00:53:00.800 going to talk about 00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:06.360 the mobility plan. Mobility plan is a component because all 00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:06.719 of the 00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:11.369 calculations we do for the road impact fee, they are based 00:53:11.369 --> 00:53:12.480 on the mobility plan. 00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:17.719 What streets we have to do capacity enhancement on. So any 00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:18.440 capacity 00:53:18.440 --> 00:53:23.440 enhancement we do, which is whether we put a new street, we 00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:25.340 add lanes to it, we 00:53:25.340 --> 00:53:30.329 do intersection improvements, we add a signal, all those 00:53:30.329 --> 00:53:31.599 are an addition of 00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:37.239 capacity. So that mobility plan is the basis for all that. 00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:39.440 That is what we do to 00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:44.199 go in and then we do all the calculations of what would it 00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:44.719 cost to 00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:48.119 build that street. So then when you determine that cost, 00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:49.360 then you determine 00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:53.480 based on the impact what share a particular development has 00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:53.920 to pay 00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:57.480 towards that street. Okay and we'll come back at you on 00:53:57.480 --> 00:54:00.400 that later on. So as part 00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:02.829 of the mobility plan we needed to determine the current 00:54:02.829 --> 00:54:03.579 capacity of the 00:54:03.579 --> 00:54:07.480 existing streets. That's already used up. So if there's any 00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:09.139 excess capacity we 00:54:09.139 --> 00:54:11.949 could then charge for that as part of the impact fee. A lot 00:54:11.949 --> 00:54:13.000 of streets are 00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:17.230 actually under level of service E where you know we have 00:54:17.230 --> 00:54:18.820 deficiency. So we 00:54:18.820 --> 00:54:24.199 recognize that also as part of the calculation process. 00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:27.280 Then also as part of 00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:31.099 the mobility plan to add approved streets which are already 00:54:31.099 --> 00:54:32.000 approved for 00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:37.489 the MPCs, which is the master plan communities, which is 00:54:37.489 --> 00:54:38.199 Hills of 00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:41.389 Denton, which is north of loop 288, then Cole Ranch and 00:54:41.389 --> 00:54:42.639 Hunter Ranch, which is the 00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:47.289 southwest part of the city. Those are very large projects 00:54:47.289 --> 00:54:48.440 generally in the 00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:51.889 range of 3,000 acres each that have already been approved 00:54:51.889 --> 00:54:53.320 by the PNG and 00:54:53.320 --> 00:54:57.550 the council. Those roads that are already approved they are 00:54:57.550 --> 00:54:58.360 currently not in the 00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:01.440 in this mobility plan that I had shown you earlier. So we 00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:02.719 needed to add those in 00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:08.019 there. And then what we wanted to do was do a built-out 00:55:08.019 --> 00:55:10.159 condition model which is 00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:13.679 okay we add all these streets then we have annex as you 00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:15.880 know almost 10,000 00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:20.000 acres in the city. So we had to go in there and add streets 00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:20.800 for those areas 00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:27.139 and then run a model for fully developed city built out 00:55:27.139 --> 00:55:29.280 condition what the 00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:34.440 traffic is and then determine what roads needed to be what. 00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:36.039 If a primary arterial, 00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:40.320 secondary arterial also look at if a road did not have 00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:41.800 enough traffic based on 00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:44.690 the computer model that was done and I'll go into that then 00:55:44.690 --> 00:55:45.840 we downgrade 00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:48.670 that road from a primary to a secondary arterial or from a 00:55:48.670 --> 00:55:49.760 secondary down to a 00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:53.989 collector street and or vice versa we went from a collector 00:55:53.989 --> 00:55:54.960 to a secondary or 00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:58.360 secondary to a primary but very few of those changes were 00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:00.559 there. And then there 00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:04.340 was some realignment of some streets where those streets as 00:56:04.340 --> 00:56:05.480 currently shown 00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:09.460 in the mobility plan we have would not work because we have 00:56:09.460 --> 00:56:10.800 development that 00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:14.920 would be impacted so we had to realign some streets in 00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:18.800 there. So we use a 00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:23.559 computer model Transcat to the project we had approved for 00:56:23.559 --> 00:56:24.679 Kimley Horn which 00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:27.559 was impact free then we went back to the council because we 00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:28.519 saw that there was 00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:31.329 deficiency in the mobility plan because we could not really 00:56:31.329 --> 00:56:32.119 use it the way it 00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:36.860 was. So to get this mobility plan really to the state of 00:56:36.860 --> 00:56:38.360 the art pretty much 00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:43.400 everybody in any any city of some size is going towards a 00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:44.960 computer model which 00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:51.300 is basically a comprehensive look see and determine the 00:56:51.300 --> 00:56:53.840 traffic generation on 00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:57.820 the streets calibrate the model for the existing condition 00:56:57.820 --> 00:56:59.079 and then project it 00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:05.719 for the future condition for the built out condition. So we 00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:08.519 determined the 00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:11.110 carrying capacity of the existing road matter I'll show you 00:57:11.110 --> 00:57:11.760 how we went about 00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:16.250 it real real quick and then this model was then used to for 00:57:16.250 --> 00:57:16.920 the built out 00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:22.820 condition traffic volumes. As you will see right here we 00:57:22.820 --> 00:57:24.800 actually went out and 00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:29.449 identified 111 different locations in the city all these 00:57:29.449 --> 00:57:31.480 dots represent where 00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:36.409 traffic data was collected. So this became the basis to 00:57:36.409 --> 00:57:38.159 determine what is 00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:42.010 happening under the existing or current conditions in the 00:57:42.010 --> 00:57:44.239 city entire city. So 00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:48.610 the model was then developed for the existing condition and 00:57:48.610 --> 00:57:49.920 it was calibrated 00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:54.150 to match the traffic volume shown through this collected 00:57:54.150 --> 00:57:55.320 data. So once we 00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:59.969 calibrated that model then that model wasn't ready to do 00:57:59.969 --> 00:58:01.000 the projections for 00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:04.789 the future conditions and how did we do the future 00:58:04.789 --> 00:58:08.360 condition projection? We use 00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:13.920 the comp plan amendment approved future land use plan. This 00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:16.320 land use plan using 00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:19.349 this land use plan and more detail the consultant actually 00:58:19.349 --> 00:58:20.320 fleshed this out a 00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:24.150 lot more to look at what development is going to happen in 00:58:24.150 --> 00:58:25.519 the city based on all 00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:29.349 of this land use that we are showing here came out with the 00:58:29.349 --> 00:58:31.199 traffic that will 00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:34.900 be generated from all these land users and we will come 00:58:34.900 --> 00:58:36.119 back and show you a 00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:39.000 little more detail when we do the road impact fee 00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:41.639 information. So using that 00:58:41.639 --> 00:58:44.940 data they came out with traffic generation from all of 00:58:44.940 --> 00:58:46.280 these areas and then 00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:49.449 looked at the streets where this traffic will go what 00:58:49.449 --> 00:58:50.920 direction it will go and 00:58:50.920 --> 00:58:55.570 then came out with the classification of the streets. So if 00:58:55.570 --> 00:58:57.800 the road showed that 00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:03.289 it had more traffic than a secondary arterial then that 00:59:03.289 --> 00:59:04.559 road was classified as 00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:07.820 a primary. If it showed that it was not justified as a 00:59:07.820 --> 00:59:09.519 primary arterial it was 00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:12.110 classified as a secondary arterial but majority of the 00:59:12.110 --> 00:59:13.199 roads stayed the same 00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:16.730 there were just a few changes a couple of changes only on 00:59:16.730 --> 00:59:22.480 the classification. So 00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:26.210 this shows the master plan communities and here's the hills 00:59:26.210 --> 00:59:27.559 of Den and you can 00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:31.829 see these are the roads which are already approved as part 00:59:31.829 --> 00:59:32.599 of the MPC 00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:37.599 process by the PNG and the council. They are currently not 00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:39.159 in the mobility plan 00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:42.579 as we have at this time. Same thing for coal ranch right 00:59:42.579 --> 00:59:44.320 here and hunter ranch. 00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:50.719 So all of these then we added into the mobility plan. Then 00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:52.880 we added the new 00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:55.719 areas as you can see all of these areas got added annexed 00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:57.519 into the city. So we 00:59:57.519 --> 01:00:01.840 went in and we added street network in all these areas here 01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:03.159 as you can see in 01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:05.690 this purple color right here and then this is another 01:00:05.690 --> 01:00:07.760 connectivity we put in. 01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:12.239 So these are the new streets that we have added to the 01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:14.400 existing mobility plan. 01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:21.230 So this is what we will call the built-out condition. One 01:00:21.230 --> 01:00:24.079 of the benefits 01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:28.320 that we have of the road impact fee process is that this is 01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:30.000 not set in stone. 01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:34.119 Every five years once we adopt the road impact fees the 01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:36.000 state law requires that 01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:40.400 at the most every five years we have to come back and we 01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:42.079 have to redo the model. 01:00:42.079 --> 01:00:45.630 We have to look at all these streets again and then we can 01:00:45.630 --> 01:00:46.559 look at change 01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:49.719 make some changes at that time every five years or less we 01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:50.599 can do it in three 01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:54.860 years or two years but no more than five years. So what you 01:00:54.860 --> 01:00:57.400 see here is a plan at 01:00:57.400 --> 01:01:02.199 this time. Every five years when we come back there may be 01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:03.280 some changes based on 01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:07.059 they will we will go back we will collect the traffic data 01:01:07.059 --> 01:01:07.840 again through 01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:11.480 the entire city. We will calibrate the model again and then 01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:12.039 we will run it 01:01:12.039 --> 01:01:14.480 based on the land use. If there's a change in the land use 01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:15.719 that will have 01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:18.960 been adopted they will be updated and then we will redo the 01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:19.880 model again. 01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:29.280 Alright. So this is the proposed mobility plan. We do have 01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:30.519 form boards and if you 01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:34.309 would like to come back later or now even so we want to see 01:01:34.309 --> 01:01:35.320 it on a piece of 01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:39.269 paper we have the same thing. This shows all the all of the 01:01:39.269 --> 01:01:40.280 new streets that I 01:01:40.280 --> 01:01:43.920 just showed you. So it adds the hills of Dunn, the coal 01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:45.199 ranch and the hunter ranch 01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:48.610 and then some of these streets that we added in these areas 01:01:48.610 --> 01:01:49.599 and some in this 01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:54.639 area right here. And then we ran the model on this because 01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:55.519 we had a calibrated 01:01:55.519 --> 01:01:59.519 model we ran the model on this proposed mobility plan and 01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:00.800 as you can see the 01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:05.239 green all the green streets this in green color it is a 01:02:05.239 --> 01:02:06.599 acceptable level of 01:02:06.599 --> 01:02:11.239 service A or B and pretty much most of the city based on 01:02:11.239 --> 01:02:12.440 the computer model 01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:15.329 based on the traffic generation based on the built out 01:02:15.329 --> 01:02:16.639 condition with the land 01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:21.010 use plan that we have accepted it shows that if we go with 01:02:21.010 --> 01:02:22.679 this plan we are 01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:25.320 going to have a very good traffic movement in the entire 01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:26.400 city. There are 01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:31.340 some areas where because of the difficulty of getting right 01:02:31.340 --> 01:02:31.800 away 01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:35.199 additional right away there is no way to expand the road 01:02:35.199 --> 01:02:36.760 then those other areas 01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:40.639 you can see Bell in some way a little bit of mingo in this 01:02:40.639 --> 01:02:42.639 area 380 part of 01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:47.659 that some of that will be text dot 35 same thing when text 01:02:47.659 --> 01:02:48.960 art improves it it 01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:53.190 will turn into green over time as they as they work on it. 01:02:53.190 --> 01:02:54.760 Same thing for 35W 01:02:54.760 --> 01:02:58.880 but majority of the street in the city have a level of 01:02:58.880 --> 01:03:01.360 service A or B or C or D 01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:05.239 based on the computer model that has been put together. I 01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:06.000 do want to mention 01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:10.039 that Kimley-Horn currently in the Metroplex they are the 01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:11.000 premier company 01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:14.590 they are doing majority of the road impact fees in the 01:03:14.590 --> 01:03:16.679 Metroplex cities as 01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:20.800 well as the mobility plants and also in Texas. So we were 01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:24.000 able to hire them so I 01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:26.940 was pretty happy with that. It was a good good effort good 01:03:26.940 --> 01:03:28.800 service from them and 01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:31.780 we had a team from the city which where we had the 01:03:31.780 --> 01:03:33.800 engineering traffic engineer 01:03:33.800 --> 01:03:37.769 our traffic operations, street department, planning 01:03:37.769 --> 01:03:40.199 department. We all were part of 01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:43.599 the team that reviewed the work as we have been doing it 01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:44.840 since last year and 01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:49.059 we gave them actually we worked with them on quadrant by 01:03:49.059 --> 01:03:50.360 quadrant all the 01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:53.440 streets we looked at all the connectivity the staff looked 01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:53.800 at all the 01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:58.449 connectivity they drove in the entire city our staff has 01:03:58.449 --> 01:03:59.000 driven the city 01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:02.639 looked at these roads and this is where we are right now 01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:03.519 based on all of that 01:04:03.519 --> 01:04:09.559 information. What I'm gonna do is there were a couple of 01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:10.760 questions last 01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:14.550 presentation I'll have Jeff come over and go over the Clear 01:04:14.550 --> 01:04:16.679 Creek area and the 01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:23.539 connection that went on the on the dam so Jeff come on over 01:04:23.539 --> 01:04:25.199 . We received a 01:04:25.199 --> 01:04:28.050 couple comments and we try to address most of them and one 01:04:28.050 --> 01:04:28.920 of the comments 01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:31.610 that we received was on the Clear Creek Nature Preserve and 01:04:31.610 --> 01:04:32.719 it was honestly that 01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:35.989 we hadn't overlaid exactly the plan we went back and overla 01:04:35.989 --> 01:04:36.679 id it and we 01:04:36.679 --> 01:04:39.380 adjusted all the alignments to match so that it wouldn't 01:04:39.380 --> 01:04:40.519 interfere with any of 01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:43.920 the trails etc so we went back and coordinated that on that 01:04:43.920 --> 01:04:44.239 one of the 01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:47.250 things that PS mentioned is there's a required update every 01:04:47.250 --> 01:04:48.039 five years but 01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:51.000 also this is a plan so as development happens they may put 01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:51.920 their building 01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:54.190 someplace and it may require to move slightly so these 01:04:54.190 --> 01:04:55.559 lines they're not a 01:04:55.559 --> 01:04:58.010 hundred percent alignment typical rule of thumb is you can 01:04:58.010 --> 01:04:58.719 move one of these 01:04:58.719 --> 01:05:00.920 roads within I don't know what Jordan says but within a 01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:01.719 thousand feet is a 01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:04.360 typical rule of thumb so but we got this one pretty 01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:05.679 accurate another question was 01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:08.590 about post-oak going through the the reserve right here and 01:05:08.590 --> 01:05:09.800 so we missed the 01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:11.800 floodplain already but the reserve we didn't have the quite 01:05:11.800 --> 01:05:12.739 boundaries right so 01:05:12.739 --> 01:05:15.800 we realigned post oak coming up through to make sure that 01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:16.679 we were out of the 01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:20.940 floodplain and out of the reserve another question was a we 01:05:20.940 --> 01:05:22.360 had a road that kind 01:05:22.360 --> 01:05:24.760 of went up the dam and so we just removed that we looked at 01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:25.599 the feasibility on 01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:28.630 that and we removed that it was going to be an expensive 01:05:28.630 --> 01:05:29.880 project that likely 01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:32.570 never get done anyway so we just went ahead and removed 01:05:32.570 --> 01:05:35.480 that so those are the 01:05:35.480 --> 01:05:37.940 three major alignment comments that we received and we 01:05:37.940 --> 01:05:39.079 received a couple other 01:05:39.079 --> 01:05:40.920 comments I think we responded to but those are the ones 01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:41.519 that we updated on 01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:48.250 the previous plan that you all seen so far your 01:05:48.250 --> 01:05:51.079 identification on this we've 01:05:51.079 --> 01:05:55.440 been working on it for some time mobility plan is one of 01:05:55.440 --> 01:05:56.760 the foundations 01:05:56.760 --> 01:06:00.880 of the road impact fees so I had taken it to the mobility 01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:02.599 committee in December 01:06:02.599 --> 01:06:07.250 and January the second meeting in January they gave a 01:06:07.250 --> 01:06:08.000 recommendation for 01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:12.119 approval by the council I had taken to the council in March 01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:13.599 and council 01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:16.690 recommended that we should go ahead and move towards 01:06:16.690 --> 01:06:18.239 approval of the mobility 01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:21.860 plan as presented there have been some refinements thanks 01:06:21.860 --> 01:06:23.440 to your diligence 01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:28.199 that we have you know added to to the mobility plan here 01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:29.239 the process that it 01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:35.119 has to go through is and we have vetted that with our legal 01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:36.599 department that it 01:06:36.599 --> 01:06:40.389 has to go through a public hearing process one at the PNG 01:06:40.389 --> 01:06:41.280 and then the 01:06:41.280 --> 01:06:44.909 second will be at the council so in the public hearing 01:06:44.909 --> 01:06:46.239 process we will have a 01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:49.199 recommendation from the planning and zoning Commission to 01:06:49.199 --> 01:06:50.079 move forward and 01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:56.949 take it to the council so today my intent is to get a kind 01:06:56.949 --> 01:06:58.599 of a nod from 01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:01.679 you that yes you have we are ready to move forward and do a 01:07:01.679 --> 01:07:02.599 public hearing at 01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:06.300 the planning and zoning Commission on this I do want to 01:07:06.300 --> 01:07:07.679 point out there are 01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:11.619 some question this mobility plan is really a much higher 01:07:11.619 --> 01:07:13.119 level it does not 01:07:13.119 --> 01:07:19.159 get into the minutiae of details of driveways median 01:07:19.159 --> 01:07:20.840 openings that is not 01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:24.280 the intent of the mobility plan 01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:37.159 we have any questions who's first Commissioner Briggle yes 01:07:37.159 --> 01:07:37.559 can you please 01:07:37.559 --> 01:07:41.949 go back to the slide where you did the traffic counts I 01:07:41.949 --> 01:07:42.440 just had a question 01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:45.880 about how that data was collected 01:07:47.400 --> 01:07:52.289 I think you passed it that one thank you I'm curious what 01:07:52.289 --> 01:07:53.159 time of year did you do 01:07:53.159 --> 01:07:55.730 this did you do this did you do those traffic counts when 01:07:55.730 --> 01:07:56.840 the students were 01:07:56.840 --> 01:08:00.039 here you did okay good yes we made sure that the school was 01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:00.519 in session 01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:02.360 excellent yeah because I was gonna say the traffic counts 01:08:02.360 --> 01:08:03.000 might be higher in 01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:06.639 the core of the city yes the other thing too is is last 01:08:06.639 --> 01:08:09.559 year yes and my other 01:08:09.559 --> 01:08:12.969 question too is did you did you only count cars or did you 01:08:12.969 --> 01:08:13.719 also count 01:08:13.719 --> 01:08:16.560 pedestrians and bicyclists and other modes of 01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:18.359 transportation if you want to 01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:22.079 answer them come over here 01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:26.869 so these accounts were done with tubes you probably drove 01:08:26.869 --> 01:08:28.319 an oven before if 01:08:28.319 --> 01:08:31.220 you're familiar with those so they they do sometimes pick 01:08:31.220 --> 01:08:32.319 up bicycles with the 01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:35.720 weight is not lifted it has hit it right so mainly vehicles 01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:36.680 the way to count 01:08:36.680 --> 01:08:38.800 pedestrians there's not a good way to count pedestrians and 01:08:38.800 --> 01:08:39.560 bicycles actually 01:08:39.560 --> 01:08:42.090 having a human person out there sitting and counting so 01:08:42.090 --> 01:08:43.039 these were focused 01:08:43.039 --> 01:08:46.270 primarily on vehicles but they classified them so some we 01:08:46.270 --> 01:08:46.720 do have 01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:46.720 information on some motorcycles or heavy bikes okay and I 01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:52.920 believe the bicycle 01:08:52.920 --> 01:08:56.609 coordinator for the city is currently working on getting 01:08:56.609 --> 01:08:58.199 bike counts but I the 01:08:58.199 --> 01:09:02.239 next time we revisit this in the next three to five years I 01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:03.439 'd like for there to 01:09:03.439 --> 01:09:07.560 be some more data since there's not it's not only cars that 01:09:07.560 --> 01:09:08.760 use our roads so I'd 01:09:08.760 --> 01:09:12.050 like the next time this comes around to include data of 01:09:12.050 --> 01:09:13.439 other road users so that 01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:16.380 when we're looking at you know if it's a primary arterially 01:09:16.380 --> 01:09:17.560 yes we're gonna want 01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:20.970 to move cars through that quickly but if there's a lot of 01:09:20.970 --> 01:09:22.319 humans like walking 01:09:22.319 --> 01:09:25.069 around I want to make sure that we're building out the 01:09:25.069 --> 01:09:26.199 roads for more as you 01:09:26.199 --> 01:09:28.890 said at the beginning more of a complete streetscape right 01:09:28.890 --> 01:09:29.960 if you recall it on 01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:33.069 the last presentation last time I did the presentation so 01:09:33.069 --> 01:09:34.399 the cross-sections 01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:39.210 we shared with you it did show that the real estate that 01:09:39.210 --> 01:09:40.800 will be there which is 01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:45.640 the right away from end to end is available to accommodate 01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:47.319 whatever the 01:09:47.319 --> 01:09:53.069 surgeons want so that that will be there the the cost that 01:09:53.069 --> 01:09:54.720 we will calculate for 01:09:54.720 --> 01:09:57.960 the road impact fee will allow for the construction for 01:09:57.960 --> 01:09:59.800 bike lanes or wider 01:09:59.800 --> 01:10:07.350 sidewalks which could be a bike lane cum pedestrian pathway 01:10:07.350 --> 01:10:08.600 so the cost will 01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:11.600 allow for that. Commissioner Tyler do you have a question? 01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:13.399 Commissioner Tyler. Thank you 01:10:13.399 --> 01:10:20.279 Chair. A couple of questions first I think this might fall 01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:20.960 outside of the 01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:23.489 purview of planning and zoning but just for a general 01:10:23.489 --> 01:10:25.399 overview so we aren't 01:10:25.399 --> 01:10:28.079 going to approve how streets get funded because City 01:10:28.079 --> 01:10:29.359 Council does that not us 01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:33.590 but I wanted to just validate my assumptions that a 01:10:33.590 --> 01:10:35.159 developer for example 01:10:35.159 --> 01:10:38.399 going in up by the lake there would still do their normal 01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:40.279 exaction perhaps 01:10:40.279 --> 01:10:44.289 for the street that runs nearby them but then they would 01:10:44.289 --> 01:10:45.680 also pay you know they 01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:50.630 they're determined to put 5,000 trips a day on some road 01:10:50.630 --> 01:10:51.920 and they would pay some 01:10:51.920 --> 01:10:54.960 percentage then like that's that's going to be a road fee 01:10:54.960 --> 01:10:56.279 of 10% of the build out 01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:59.960 of that road. We have a very good question you know if you 01:10:59.960 --> 01:11:02.039 would have and 01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:05.050 if you stay with me on this when we come back for the road 01:11:05.050 --> 01:11:06.760 impact fees we will 01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:09.319 you know go through the little more detailed discussion on 01:11:09.319 --> 01:11:10.319 it with you as to how 01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:14.550 you know we perceive somebody going out in the green space 01:11:14.550 --> 01:11:16.119 way out there how 01:11:16.119 --> 01:11:20.600 they will be impacted with this road impact fee process 01:11:20.600 --> 01:11:22.039 compared to somebody 01:11:22.039 --> 01:11:25.329 who is more in within the town area so there'll be a little 01:11:25.329 --> 01:11:25.680 different 01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:30.909 differentiation in that. And I can hold my second question. 01:11:30.909 --> 01:11:35.279 Did you have a question? Commissioner Duttewicz. 01:11:36.760 --> 01:11:41.020 Does mobility plan take into consideration state or county 01:11:41.020 --> 01:11:41.760 roads? 01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:45.989 Repeat that. Does mobility plan does not take into 01:11:45.989 --> 01:11:50.279 consideration county or state owned roads correct? 01:11:50.279 --> 01:11:52.850 It does you know it looks at the traffic because all those 01:11:52.850 --> 01:11:54.039 roads are part of the 01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:56.859 primary or secondary arterial. We have a lot of textile 01:11:56.859 --> 01:11:58.479 roads in the city they are 01:11:58.479 --> 01:12:01.319 part of the mobility plan so they are either a primary 01:12:01.319 --> 01:12:02.479 arterial or a secondary 01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:08.060 arterial. So we do account for the traffic on that as part 01:12:08.060 --> 01:12:09.560 of the computer model. 01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:13.680 Yes sir. But majority of the work or the expenditure on 01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:16.640 those is by the state. We 01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:20.130 have made allowance of in our calculations of the road 01:12:20.130 --> 01:12:22.279 impact fee 10% 01:12:22.279 --> 01:12:31.039 20% sorry 20% allowance for city wanted improvements if you 01:12:31.039 --> 01:12:32.159 will. 01:12:32.159 --> 01:12:36.399 For those roads. So we are actually keeping 20% of the cost 01:12:36.399 --> 01:12:37.680 share that we 01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:42.050 calculate if this road will cost this much per mile to do 01:12:42.050 --> 01:12:43.319 so whatever that 01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:46.399 cost is 20% of the cost we're allocating in the road impact 01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:47.600 fee process. 01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:51.220 Okay so in the mobility plan we're going to be looking at 01:12:51.220 --> 01:12:53.439 new roads and existing roads 01:12:53.439 --> 01:12:57.670 that need either expansion or some rework. Yes sir. How do 01:12:57.670 --> 01:12:58.840 you identify those 01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:07.430 in here in the plan? Well we have actually you know 01:13:07.430 --> 01:13:10.359 detailed sheets that 01:13:10.359 --> 01:13:15.800 show each street and a cost calculation for that. And when 01:13:15.800 --> 01:13:16.359 we bring the road 01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:19.020 impact fee process for you you will be able to see it in 01:13:19.020 --> 01:13:20.640 the study that there 01:13:20.640 --> 01:13:23.680 is a cost calculation for each and every street that is in 01:13:23.680 --> 01:13:24.920 the mobility plan. But 01:13:24.920 --> 01:13:28.939 is it color-coded somehow some way? Well you will see that 01:13:28.939 --> 01:13:29.680 will be by the by the 01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:33.920 each service area. We have five service areas defined in 01:13:33.920 --> 01:13:34.840 the mobility in the 01:13:34.840 --> 01:13:38.239 road impact fee process and by service area we will show 01:13:38.239 --> 01:13:39.279 you all the roads 01:13:39.279 --> 01:13:42.680 which are part of that service area and then there is a 01:13:42.680 --> 01:13:44.239 detailed calculation 01:13:44.239 --> 01:13:49.739 sheet by sheet one sheet for every road that we have actual 01:13:49.739 --> 01:13:50.600 cost calculation. 01:13:50.600 --> 01:13:55.569 What is the total cost for that improvement? Following up 01:13:55.569 --> 01:13:56.880 again so when 01:13:56.880 --> 01:14:02.039 we vote on something what are we voting on? The impact fee 01:14:02.039 --> 01:14:02.880 issue or a 01:14:02.880 --> 01:14:06.069 relationship for the impact fees or is it on where they're 01:14:06.069 --> 01:14:07.239 gonna put a road or 01:14:07.239 --> 01:14:11.069 where they're going to do some remodeling or redoing 01:14:11.069 --> 01:14:13.199 something? This is 01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:16.789 only a network. This is mobility planning a road network. 01:14:16.789 --> 01:14:17.840 That is what we'll be 01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:21.239 voting on. This is not the road impact fees. Okay it's the 01:14:21.239 --> 01:14:22.520 network. Yes sir. 01:14:22.520 --> 01:14:25.550 It's the road network. That's your general projects for 01:14:25.550 --> 01:14:26.680 mobility purposes 01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:29.970 those go in front of P&Z and I just want to clarify that 01:14:29.970 --> 01:14:32.500 the impact fees when he 01:14:32.500 --> 01:14:36.369 says you he means the P&Z sitting in the the official 01:14:36.369 --> 01:14:37.539 capacity of the Capital 01:14:37.539 --> 01:14:42.649 Improvements Advisory Committee not as the P&Z body and as 01:14:42.649 --> 01:14:45.159 that committee the 01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:51.760 CIE AC I think is the right acronym will actually have the 01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:52.760 responsibility of 01:14:52.760 --> 01:14:55.899 looking at the land use assumptions and the capital 01:14:55.899 --> 01:14:57.359 improvements plan and 01:14:57.359 --> 01:15:00.079 looking at the fees in particular as it relates to those 01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:01.319 things and there will be 01:15:01.319 --> 01:15:04.640 two required public hearings for that so those will that's 01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:06.039 a completely separate 01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:09.439 issue from the mobility plan that's coming before P&Z. That 01:15:09.439 --> 01:15:10.079 's more of a 01:15:10.079 --> 01:15:14.109 general network of roadways. So again I'm questioning what 01:15:14.109 --> 01:15:16.119 's back what are we approving? 01:15:16.119 --> 01:15:19.680 Amendments to the actual mobility plan which could include 01:15:19.680 --> 01:15:20.960 additional streets 01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:24.390 it could include additional expansions depending on what he 01:15:24.390 --> 01:15:26.279 brings forward. 01:15:26.279 --> 01:15:31.159 A street map okay. Has anyone seen a street map? Just just 01:15:31.159 --> 01:15:32.359 here okay can I get 01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:37.189 or can we get one of those? Sure absolutely. Because I 01:15:37.189 --> 01:15:38.039 think what happened 01:15:38.039 --> 01:15:41.670 with when Commissioner Bentley was here he was able to 01:15:41.670 --> 01:15:43.199 drill down and see that 01:15:43.199 --> 01:15:46.869 that road went into a dam and I think what we need to do is 01:15:46.869 --> 01:15:48.159 all look at again 01:15:48.159 --> 01:15:52.180 those in more detail he was very anal about getting into 01:15:52.180 --> 01:15:54.159 details and and I 01:15:54.159 --> 01:15:57.189 haven't seen the plan and been able to get to it and trying 01:15:57.189 --> 01:15:58.239 to do it on. 01:15:58.239 --> 01:16:01.329 We did provide you in the last two presentations in the 01:16:01.329 --> 01:16:03.680 PowerPoint that 01:16:03.680 --> 01:16:07.989 information was available. Right. Anything else we're 01:16:07.989 --> 01:16:09.600 needing to get down to 01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:12.529 the point of seeing something so we can get into it. I'll 01:16:12.529 --> 01:16:13.439 be happy to provide 01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:16.159 you a hard copy. Thank you. Maybe you might want to just 01:16:16.159 --> 01:16:17.479 get with PS and he can go 01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:20.199 through that. We're gonna any other very quick questions we 01:16:20.199 --> 01:16:21.039 're gonna wrap up and 01:16:21.039 --> 01:16:26.369 get ready for our 630. You had a follow-up? Commissioner B 01:16:26.369 --> 01:16:29.640 ribble. I just want to be clear so are you seeking direction 01:16:29.640 --> 01:16:31.520 from us tonight to just continue to move forward with this? 01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:35.479 To move forward to you know get a public hearing 01:16:35.479 --> 01:16:36.800 established and then have a 01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:41.039 public hearing. Okay. So you looking for an action for us 01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:42.720 tonight or just a nod to go 01:16:42.720 --> 01:16:45.859 ahead and move that you're not looking for something from 01:16:45.859 --> 01:16:47.439 us here at this point? 01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:51.369 Basically I'm looking for a nod that yes you are you know 01:16:51.369 --> 01:16:53.039 ready to move forward 01:16:53.039 --> 01:16:55.750 towards a public hearing. That's what I'm looking for. We 01:16:55.750 --> 01:16:57.159 have a consensus that we're ready to 01:16:57.159 --> 01:17:02.909 to move forward. I'm sorry. Commissioner Beck. Thank you. 01:17:02.909 --> 01:17:03.880 So this is not something 01:17:03.880 --> 01:17:06.039 we're actually using now we're considering using is that 01:17:06.039 --> 01:17:07.000 correct? Sir. 01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:10.100 This is not something we're actually using now it's we're 01:17:10.100 --> 01:17:11.199 considering using 01:17:11.199 --> 01:17:15.869 this mobility plan right? Yes sir. Okay. To clarify there 01:17:15.869 --> 01:17:17.319 currently is a mobility 01:17:17.319 --> 01:17:22.270 plan it would just be amended and he's looking for your 01:17:22.270 --> 01:17:23.680 sort of confirmation 01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:27.909 that you're okay with the amendments proposed. Okay. Is 01:17:27.909 --> 01:17:28.720 that fair? Yeah you will have a 01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:31.039 public hearing you know at that time you know we will go 01:17:31.039 --> 01:17:32.359 through there so it'll 01:17:32.359 --> 01:17:36.770 be noticed anybody from the city can come in and look at 01:17:36.770 --> 01:17:37.920 what we are proposing 01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:40.899 it'll be posted out we'll have copies available people can 01:17:40.899 --> 01:17:41.760 come and see all 01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:44.840 that so anybody in the city who is impacted they can come 01:17:44.840 --> 01:17:45.600 in and I'll 01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:47.869 discuss it in the public hearing process. Just one real 01:17:47.869 --> 01:17:48.880 quick question it's going 01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:54.609 to be a lengthy response we can get to it later but how 01:17:54.609 --> 01:17:55.920 reliable are these 01:17:55.920 --> 01:18:01.680 models? Sir. How reliable are these models? It's a fairly 01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:03.359 robust model. Transcat is a 01:18:03.359 --> 01:18:09.119 very widely used model. Okay. 80% 90% effective. You want 01:18:09.119 --> 01:18:11.840 to talk about it a little more? 01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:16.880 The Federal Highway has come out with a way to calibrate 01:18:16.880 --> 01:18:18.159 the model and so we 01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:20.659 base everything on that existing calibration the existing 01:18:20.659 --> 01:18:21.239 counts and we 01:18:21.239 --> 01:18:23.680 met all the Federal Highway requirements and so we're 01:18:23.680 --> 01:18:24.960 projecting and they end up 01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:27.960 being pretty accurate but you can't whether or not it's 01:18:27.960 --> 01:18:29.119 made to be flexible 01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:31.189 so we divide up the city in a whole bunch of zones and we 01:18:31.189 --> 01:18:32.000 're based on your 01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:35.170 future land use plan so what makes it not as reliable I'm 01:18:35.170 --> 01:18:36.239 not it's reliable 01:18:36.239 --> 01:18:38.720 it's a new developer proposes something different than we 01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:39.680 assumed in the model 01:18:39.680 --> 01:18:42.189 so that's what the changes are. If everything happened the 01:18:42.189 --> 01:18:42.399 way our 01:18:42.399 --> 01:18:45.039 crystal ball said or the way your comp plan said the maps 01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:45.880 very reliable the 01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:47.779 models are very reliable so based on the current 01:18:47.779 --> 01:18:50.760 information there within it you 01:18:50.760 --> 01:18:53.439 know it's within a 10% on your big roads it gets down about 01:18:53.439 --> 01:18:54.680 25% on your smaller 01:18:54.680 --> 01:19:00.609 roads because it's a little bit less falling. Thank you. 01:19:00.609 --> 01:19:04.880 That's a good question. Okay. 01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:09.880 It is 629 and we're going to close our work session and 01:19:09.880 --> 01:19:11.800 reconvene in council 01:19:11.800 --> 01:19:14.199 chambers. 01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:18.920 you 01:19:46.880 --> 01:19:48.939 you 01:20:16.880 --> 01:20:18.960 , you 01:20:46.640 --> 01:20:46.640 good evening and welcome to the planning and zoning meeting 01:20:46.640 --> 01:20:53.079 on September the 16th 01:20:53.079 --> 01:20:56.810 we have a what this meeting has been duly posted and we 01:20:56.810 --> 01:20:58.359 have a forum present 01:20:58.359 --> 01:21:01.050 and we would like to go ahead and open our meeting with the 01:21:01.050 --> 01:21:02.039 pledge to the flag 01:21:02.039 --> 01:21:05.039 and the Texas flag. 01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:18.880 [Pledge of Allegiance] 01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:44.350 The first item I want to address this evening is due to a 01:21:44.350 --> 01:21:46.000 technicality on a 01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:49.130 switch of some software from a previous format that we've 01:21:49.130 --> 01:21:50.359 had we're going to 01:21:50.359 --> 01:21:54.590 push our actual chair and vice chair elections that we had 01:21:54.590 --> 01:21:55.920 our next meeting 01:21:55.920 --> 01:22:00.380 to our next P&Z meeting for those to be ratified and that 01:22:00.380 --> 01:22:02.319 will move us then to 01:22:02.319 --> 01:22:08.390 our minutes and the first minutes that we're going to take 01:22:08.390 --> 01:22:10.119 a look at will be 01:22:10.119 --> 01:22:15.159 the August 19th minutes. 01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:22.199 Commissioner Taylor. Move approval of the August 19th 01:22:22.199 --> 01:22:24.180 minutes. Commissioner 01:22:24.180 --> 01:22:47.760 Bruegel. I second. Please hold on the board. That motion 01:22:47.760 --> 01:22:50.479 passes 4-0 with 2 01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:55.979 abstaining. Our next item tonight is our minutes from our 01:22:55.979 --> 01:22:57.399 meeting on September 01:22:57.399 --> 01:23:01.270 the 2nd. I'm gonna call on Commissioner Hussbeth I think 01:23:01.270 --> 01:23:02.680 had a correction on 01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:10.399 that. Yes sir thank you. I would just request that staff go 01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:11.920 back and look or 01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:21.479 pardon me re-listen to it's it's noted on page 11 line 41 I 01:23:21.479 --> 01:23:23.159 think there's some 01:23:23.159 --> 01:23:28.800 context that could be added. Thank you. Yes I move that the 01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:31.199 minutes be approved 01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:35.850 with that one stipulation. All right. I have a second. 01:23:35.850 --> 01:23:39.699 Second. Thank You Mr. Commissioner 01:23:39.699 --> 01:23:44.039 Taylor. Vote on the board please. 01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:12.000 That motion passes 6-0. Moves us to our consent agenda. Do 01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:12.239 you have a 01:24:12.239 --> 01:24:17.039 motion or have any discussion for that? 01:24:20.079 --> 01:24:24.039 Chair would entertain a motion. 01:24:25.960 --> 01:24:33.010 Second. Thank You Commissioner Taylor. I call for a vote on 01:24:33.010 --> 01:24:34.720 the board. 01:24:52.600 --> 01:24:59.460 That motion carries 6-0. We'll move us to item number 4A, 01:24:59.460 --> 01:25:00.680 items for individual 01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:02.859 consideration and I will call on staff for that 01:25:02.859 --> 01:25:05.239 presentation. Thank You Chairperson. 01:25:05.239 --> 01:25:07.340 I would ask Sophie Humer to come and make the presentation 01:25:07.340 --> 01:25:08.119 to discuss the site 01:25:08.119 --> 01:25:14.170 plan for the Razor Ranch South Complex. Good evening 01:25:14.170 --> 01:25:15.359 Commissioner. Sophie Humer 01:25:15.359 --> 01:25:17.890 associate planner with the City of Denton. I will be 01:25:17.890 --> 01:25:20.800 presenting to you SP 15-5, the 01:25:20.800 --> 01:25:25.439 Razor Ranch Town Center phase 2B. The request before you is 01:25:25.439 --> 01:25:26.399 to consider 01:25:26.399 --> 01:25:29.909 approval of a site plan within the Razor Ranch South Campus 01:25:29.909 --> 01:25:31.279 for a 6,810 01:25:31.279 --> 01:25:34.159 square foot multi-tenant retail building on a portion of 01:25:34.159 --> 01:25:35.619 lot 10 block A of the 01:25:35.619 --> 01:25:41.739 Razor Ranch Town Center phase 1. The request before you the 01:25:41.739 --> 01:25:43.000 site here is 01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:46.880 located in red. It's on the south side of US Highway 380 01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:49.279 and is about 1700 feet 01:25:49.279 --> 01:25:56.739 east of I-35. It's outlined in red. This is the concept and 01:25:56.739 --> 01:25:57.880 schematic plan for 01:25:57.880 --> 01:26:01.359 the Razor Ranch Overlay District. The building in question 01:26:01.359 --> 01:26:02.520 is located in the 01:26:02.520 --> 01:26:06.319 RR 1 sub district. Retail sales and services are permitted 01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:06.560 in that 01:26:06.560 --> 01:26:12.739 sub district and the building is located approximately here 01:26:12.739 --> 01:26:16.199 . This is a kind of a 01:26:16.199 --> 01:26:19.350 where we've been schematic of the Razor Ranch Overlay on 01:26:19.350 --> 01:26:20.960 the south campus. Here 01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:26.630 we have Highway 380 along the north running east-west and I 01:26:26.630 --> 01:26:27.600 -35 running 01:26:27.600 --> 01:26:31.000 north-south on the west side of the development. We've 01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:32.600 previously, sorry the 01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:35.000 Planning and Doning Commission has previously approved lot 01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:35.720 2, it's at 01:26:35.720 --> 01:26:39.319 Chili's, a restaurant building, a multi-tenant retail 01:26:39.319 --> 01:26:40.880 center on lot 4, 01:26:40.880 --> 01:26:45.659 Raising Canes here on lot 5, the Wynko building on lot 8, 01:26:45.659 --> 01:26:47.000 and then the request 01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:51.239 before you is this property highlighted in yellow. Just one 01:26:51.239 --> 01:26:53.279 note kind of about 01:26:53.279 --> 01:26:56.909 the overall development of the south side. We have some 01:26:56.909 --> 01:26:59.119 primary access points 01:26:59.119 --> 01:27:02.640 coming off of Highway 380. This is Heritage Trail. It's a 01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:04.279 future secondary 01:27:04.279 --> 01:27:10.609 arterial drive. This is the Razor Ranch Site Plan approval 01:27:10.609 --> 01:27:13.279 criteria. I'll read 01:27:13.279 --> 01:27:16.079 them out. Number one is that the site plan substantially 01:27:16.079 --> 01:27:16.840 complies with the 01:27:16.840 --> 01:27:20.130 concept and schematic plan approved by City Council. This 01:27:20.130 --> 01:27:21.159 is where we look at 01:27:21.159 --> 01:27:24.100 our land use and our permitted uses. Number two that the 01:27:24.100 --> 01:27:25.159 site plan provides 01:27:25.159 --> 01:27:27.750 for a compatible arrangement of buildings and land uses 01:27:27.750 --> 01:27:28.479 that would not 01:27:28.479 --> 01:27:32.010 adversely affect any adjoining neighborhoods or properties 01:27:32.010 --> 01:27:32.640 outside of 01:27:32.640 --> 01:27:35.779 the plan. This is where we look at our site and building 01:27:35.779 --> 01:27:36.680 design as it relates 01:27:36.680 --> 01:27:39.420 to the buildings around it and to the adjoining 01:27:39.420 --> 01:27:42.039 neighborhoods. Number three is 01:27:42.039 --> 01:27:44.119 that the site plan provides for the adequate and safe 01:27:44.119 --> 01:27:44.800 circulation of 01:27:44.800 --> 01:27:47.300 vehicular traffic. Obviously we look at traffic and 01:27:47.300 --> 01:27:48.960 mobility. And number four 01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:51.619 that the plan fully complies with all other sections of the 01:27:51.619 --> 01:27:52.399 overly district, 01:27:52.399 --> 01:27:59.590 mainly architectural compatibility as well as plaza area. 01:27:59.590 --> 01:28:01.800 So to make 01:28:01.800 --> 01:28:05.789 sure that the site plans meet those criteria we accept a 01:28:05.789 --> 01:28:07.000 site plan, a 01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:12.020 landscape plan, and a building elevation. This is the site 01:28:12.020 --> 01:28:14.000 plan that we will be 01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:17.659 approving or considering approval for tonight. The Wynko 01:28:17.659 --> 01:28:19.119 building is located 01:28:19.119 --> 01:28:26.720 here in this space. North is located this way. 380 runs 01:28:26.720 --> 01:28:31.479 east-west here. The site of 01:28:31.479 --> 01:28:35.710 fully complies with the lot coverage and landscaped area 01:28:35.710 --> 01:28:38.279 requirements. This is the 01:28:38.279 --> 01:28:40.930 landscape plan. There's a good balance of landscape and 01:28:40.930 --> 01:28:42.399 hardscape. Again we have 01:28:42.399 --> 01:28:47.159 the building here and a parking field here. And again the 01:28:47.159 --> 01:28:48.239 site plan complies 01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:51.789 with the parking lot landscaping and the parking lot tree 01:28:51.789 --> 01:28:53.720 canopy. This is a 01:28:53.720 --> 01:28:58.439 hardscape plan to show compliance with the plaza area 01:28:58.439 --> 01:28:59.479 requirement. They're using 01:28:59.479 --> 01:29:03.100 covered area with some awnings. This is an outdoor dining 01:29:03.100 --> 01:29:05.079 area. They're using 01:29:05.079 --> 01:29:09.100 additional shade canopy coverage along here as well as hard 01:29:09.100 --> 01:29:10.439 scape with 01:29:10.439 --> 01:29:15.109 integrated planters. There's a bike rack here. And once 01:29:15.109 --> 01:29:15.960 again this is the 01:29:15.960 --> 01:29:20.310 Wynko building and there's six feet of separation between 01:29:20.310 --> 01:29:23.159 the buildings. These 01:29:23.159 --> 01:29:26.840 are the elevations for the site plan before you tonight. 01:29:26.840 --> 01:29:29.159 This elevation is the 01:29:29.159 --> 01:29:33.560 side that backs up to Wynko. This is the north side of the 01:29:33.560 --> 01:29:34.920 building looking south. 01:29:34.920 --> 01:29:39.819 This is the south elevation looking north and this is the 01:29:39.819 --> 01:29:41.279 front elevation 01:29:41.279 --> 01:29:45.399 looking towards the parking field. Just for comparison this 01:29:45.399 --> 01:29:46.920 is the approved lot 01:29:46.920 --> 01:29:49.949 four. Again you can see that there's consistency in 01:29:49.949 --> 01:29:51.239 geometry, building 01:29:51.239 --> 01:29:56.569 materials as well as character. This is the approved Wynko 01:29:56.569 --> 01:29:58.600 elevation. The shaded 01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:05.960 box here is approximately where the building will be. So to 01:30:05.960 --> 01:30:07.560 run through the 01:30:07.560 --> 01:30:10.500 criteria for approval the site plan does fully comply with 01:30:10.500 --> 01:30:11.359 the concept and 01:30:11.359 --> 01:30:16.119 schematic plan. The site also provides for compatible 01:30:16.119 --> 01:30:16.960 arrangement of buildings 01:30:16.960 --> 01:30:19.760 and land uses, its interior to the overall development and 01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:20.520 is surrounded by 01:30:20.520 --> 01:30:25.609 other commercial uses. The site plan also provides for 01:30:25.609 --> 01:30:26.760 adequate and safe 01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:29.470 circulation of vehicular traffic. The site plan shares 01:30:29.470 --> 01:30:30.439 access to internal 01:30:30.439 --> 01:30:32.800 drive aisles and also allows for safe movement of 01:30:32.800 --> 01:30:34.239 pedestrians and vehicular 01:30:34.239 --> 01:30:39.020 traffic. And the site plan fully complies with all of the 01:30:39.020 --> 01:30:40.039 development regulations 01:30:40.039 --> 01:30:43.520 of the Razor Ranch overlay district including architectural 01:30:43.520 --> 01:30:44.199 compatibility 01:30:44.199 --> 01:30:49.409 and the plaza area requirement. Staff is recommending 01:30:49.409 --> 01:30:50.760 approval of the proposed 01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:53.550 site plan. It is consistent with the Razor Ranch overlay 01:30:53.550 --> 01:30:54.680 district. I will stand 01:30:54.680 --> 01:30:58.609 for any questions and the applicant is here for any 01:30:58.609 --> 01:30:59.760 questions. 01:30:59.760 --> 01:31:03.720 Any questions for staff? 01:31:11.640 --> 01:31:13.350 I believe the applicant is here. Are there any questions 01:31:13.350 --> 01:31:16.920 for the applicant? 01:31:24.720 --> 01:31:28.119 Commissioner Beck. Thank you Mr. Chair. For the applicant, 01:31:28.119 --> 01:31:32.119 who's the applicant? 01:31:33.520 --> 01:31:37.010 Do we know who, have the space has been rented out in this 01:31:37.010 --> 01:31:38.840 building yet? The 01:31:38.840 --> 01:31:43.100 restaurant on one end and you've got some retail. Good 01:31:43.100 --> 01:31:45.119 evening Scott Wagner for 01:31:45.119 --> 01:31:45.119 Red Development the applicant. Thank you for having me. We 01:31:45.119 --> 01:31:49.439 do not have any 01:31:49.439 --> 01:31:52.680 tenants named yet under contract. We were working with a 01:31:52.680 --> 01:31:53.800 handful of tenants 01:31:53.800 --> 01:31:56.600 as the plans are just getting developed. So when the plans 01:31:56.600 --> 01:31:57.560 get prepared we take 01:31:57.560 --> 01:31:59.770 them out to market and we start putting together the tenant 01:31:59.770 --> 01:32:02.159 list. Okay thank you. 01:32:02.159 --> 01:32:08.039 Commissioner Taylor. Thank you Chair. Thank you Mr. Wagner. 01:32:08.039 --> 01:32:09.479 In the work session 01:32:09.479 --> 01:32:13.340 we had some questions regarding just kind of project status 01:32:13.340 --> 01:32:14.319 and I know that 01:32:14.319 --> 01:32:16.590 there's been some earth moving over there and now that you 01:32:16.590 --> 01:32:17.479 have I guess four 01:32:17.479 --> 01:32:21.880 or so lots approved. I was wondering if you could give us 01:32:21.880 --> 01:32:23.239 just a brief update on 01:32:23.239 --> 01:32:27.109 how things are progressing? Sure. Progressing on schedule 01:32:27.109 --> 01:32:27.880 which is always 01:32:27.880 --> 01:32:30.460 the most important for us and on budget which is second 01:32:30.460 --> 01:32:31.960 most important. Our 01:32:31.960 --> 01:32:34.880 tenants are happy to see the progress out there both for 01:32:34.880 --> 01:32:35.920 the stores that are 01:32:35.920 --> 01:32:38.380 under contract and ready to go start construction. I 01:32:38.380 --> 01:32:40.199 believe Chili's and 01:32:40.199 --> 01:32:43.140 Raising Cane should be out in construction in the next few 01:32:43.140 --> 01:32:43.520 weeks. 01:32:43.520 --> 01:32:49.090 Wynco should be out in the next month or so. And our retail 01:32:49.090 --> 01:32:50.359 building if you 01:32:50.359 --> 01:32:52.680 drove by today you would see the wall standing up. So we're 01:32:52.680 --> 01:32:53.439 hoping to have that 01:32:53.439 --> 01:32:56.060 retail building dried in by the holidays by the turn of the 01:32:56.060 --> 01:32:56.680 year and start 01:32:56.680 --> 01:32:59.539 delivering over to the tenants that would occupy that 01:32:59.539 --> 01:33:02.359 building sometime in 01:33:02.359 --> 01:33:04.899 towards the beginning of the year and they could start 01:33:04.899 --> 01:33:06.000 occupying that and be 01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:09.399 open by springtime. So the phase one if you will the 01:33:09.399 --> 01:33:10.119 infrastructure and the 01:33:10.119 --> 01:33:13.649 utilities and the off-site roadways that's all on schedule 01:33:13.649 --> 01:33:14.319 and being 01:33:14.319 --> 01:33:16.680 constructed now the building starting to go up and our 01:33:16.680 --> 01:33:17.680 tenants will start to 01:33:17.680 --> 01:33:21.079 occupy their property in the next few weeks. And as that 01:33:21.079 --> 01:33:21.640 construction 01:33:21.640 --> 01:33:28.590 progresses are you going to build the heritage trail out 01:33:28.590 --> 01:33:29.520 basically at 01:33:29.520 --> 01:33:31.979 the same time as this construction progresses? A portion of 01:33:31.979 --> 01:33:32.640 it. The portion 01:33:32.640 --> 01:33:34.760 necessary to open and operate this phase is under 01:33:34.760 --> 01:33:36.119 construction. It was 01:33:36.119 --> 01:33:39.199 blue-topped last week and they should start they're forming 01:33:39.199 --> 01:33:40.000 right now and they 01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:45.600 should start paving in the next few weeks. Thank you. 01:33:47.720 --> 01:33:54.239 Any other questions for the applicant? The chair would 01:33:54.239 --> 01:33:57.760 entertain a motion. 01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:05.529 The first from Commissioner Detowitz and the second from 01:34:05.529 --> 01:34:08.479 Gerald Husquith for a 01:34:08.479 --> 01:34:13.520 vote on the board. I'm sorry I apologize. I got ahead of 01:34:13.520 --> 01:34:14.520 myself. 01:34:14.520 --> 01:34:20.710 Commissioner Detowitz? I move to approve as submitted. I 01:34:20.710 --> 01:34:24.880 second. Thank you 01:34:24.880 --> 01:34:28.319 Commissioner Husquith. I have a first and a second for 01:34:28.319 --> 01:34:30.840 approval. Call for a vote on 01:34:30.840 --> 01:34:33.119 the board. 01:34:44.520 --> 01:34:55.760 Motion carries 6-0. I will move us to item 5 our public 01:34:55.760 --> 01:35:06.319 hearings. Item A. At 01:35:06.319 --> 01:35:09.850 this time I will open the public hearing for item A which 01:35:09.850 --> 01:35:11.880 is going to be FR 15-0018. 01:35:11.880 --> 01:35:23.970 That is to hold a public hearing and consider a final repl 01:35:23.970 --> 01:35:25.199 at of lot 7R 01:35:25.199 --> 01:35:31.729 block 21 of the Villages of Carmel phase 2B. Thank you 01:35:31.729 --> 01:35:32.399 Chair members of the 01:35:32.399 --> 01:35:36.720 Commission. As was stated this is FR 15-18. It is a final 01:35:36.720 --> 01:35:37.199 replat in the 01:35:37.199 --> 01:35:41.079 Villages of Carmel. The lot that's being replatted is shown 01:35:41.079 --> 01:35:41.600 roughly here in 01:35:41.600 --> 01:35:44.550 yellow. You can see how the grading work has been as this 01:35:44.550 --> 01:35:45.439 area has been under 01:35:45.439 --> 01:35:49.159 construction with single-family homes. The purpose of this 01:35:49.159 --> 01:35:49.960 plat is you can 01:35:49.960 --> 01:35:54.220 blow it up to the lot here. There's a temporary waterline 01:35:54.220 --> 01:35:55.239 easement that was 01:35:55.239 --> 01:35:57.600 used for construction of the Villages of Carmel and that 01:35:57.600 --> 01:35:58.640 waterline is served its 01:35:58.640 --> 01:36:01.520 purpose. It's been removed so the purpose of this replat is 01:36:01.520 --> 01:36:02.159 to take that easement 01:36:02.159 --> 01:36:06.680 off and then they can build a single-family home. The plat 01:36:06.680 --> 01:36:07.600 meets all the 01:36:07.600 --> 01:36:13.039 technical requirements and staff recommends approval. I 01:36:13.039 --> 01:36:13.119 stand for any questions. 01:36:19.399 --> 01:36:22.720 Any questions for staff? 01:36:26.239 --> 01:36:34.560 This is a public hearing. I have one card to speak. Mr. Rod 01:36:34.560 --> 01:36:36.039 Zilke would like to come up 01:36:36.039 --> 01:36:41.960 please. Mr. Chairman and Commissioners my name is Rod Zilke 01:36:41.960 --> 01:36:43.279 with ZPS Consulting 01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:47.600 Engineers at 1111 Main Street in Grapevine, Texas. I'm here 01:36:47.600 --> 01:36:48.239 representing 01:36:48.239 --> 01:36:51.720 the applicant if you have any questions. 01:37:06.640 --> 01:37:08.300 Commissioner Dudowitz. I move to approve. I submit. Thank 01:37:08.300 --> 01:37:14.960 you. I pause. I need to 01:37:14.960 --> 01:37:19.189 if there's no one else to speak seeing none I'll close the 01:37:19.189 --> 01:37:20.560 public hearing on 01:37:20.560 --> 01:37:20.560 this item and I will call on Commissioner Dudowitz. Yes 01:37:20.560 --> 01:37:26.600 thank you 01:37:26.600 --> 01:37:33.300 Chairman. I move to approve as submitted. Commissioner Beck 01:37:33.300 --> 01:37:35.840 . I second that motion. 01:37:35.840 --> 01:37:40.239 Thank you. First and a second for approval and call for a 01:37:40.239 --> 01:37:40.760 vote on the 01:37:40.760 --> 01:37:43.159 board please. 01:37:51.840 --> 01:37:59.760 The motion passes 6 to 0. We'll move us to item 5B. I will 01:37:59.760 --> 01:38:00.720 open the public 01:38:00.720 --> 01:38:03.409 hearing for 5B which is to hold a public hearing and 01:38:03.409 --> 01:38:04.600 consider making a 01:38:04.600 --> 01:38:07.789 recommendation to City Council regarding a rezoning request 01:38:07.789 --> 01:38:08.079 from 01:38:08.079 --> 01:38:14.329 regional Center Commercial downtown to Employment Center 01:38:14.329 --> 01:38:18.640 Industrial staff. 01:38:18.640 --> 01:38:23.279 Good evening I'm Julie Wyatt, Associate Planner with the 01:38:23.279 --> 01:38:24.560 City of Denton and I'm 01:38:24.560 --> 01:38:29.210 presenting Z1522 to you tonight, Hull edition. The request 01:38:29.210 --> 01:38:29.840 before you is to 01:38:29.840 --> 01:38:32.930 consider making a recommendation to City Council regarding 01:38:32.930 --> 01:38:34.000 a rezoning request 01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:37.850 from regional Center Commercial downtown to Employment 01:38:37.850 --> 01:38:40.560 Center Industrial. 01:38:41.560 --> 01:38:44.960 Just to orient you here's the subject property. It is about 01:38:44.960 --> 01:38:45.600 one and a half 01:38:45.600 --> 01:38:49.279 acres and it is located on the north side of Schuyler 01:38:49.279 --> 01:38:53.399 Street west of I-35. 01:38:53.399 --> 01:38:56.489 Just to give you a little bit of background the property 01:38:56.489 --> 01:38:57.520 was rezoned in 01:38:57.520 --> 01:39:02.680 2011 to RCCD. It was actually rezoned from RCCN which is 01:39:02.680 --> 01:39:03.439 Regional Center 01:39:03.439 --> 01:39:07.449 Commercial Neighborhood. This was in order to accommodate a 01:39:07.449 --> 01:39:09.239 vehicle repair use. 01:39:09.239 --> 01:39:14.449 That RCC, the rezoning to RCCD made sense at the time. It 01:39:14.449 --> 01:39:16.479 was based upon the 01:39:16.479 --> 01:39:20.989 comprehensive plan that was in place that considered this 01:39:20.989 --> 01:39:21.560 area the 01:39:21.560 --> 01:39:25.149 future land use designation to be regional mixed use center 01:39:25.149 --> 01:39:26.039 . The intent of 01:39:26.039 --> 01:39:30.300 that future land use in the previous Denton plan was to 01:39:30.300 --> 01:39:32.279 encourage shopping, 01:39:32.279 --> 01:39:37.770 recreation, entertainment and employment uses to serve the 01:39:37.770 --> 01:39:38.119 entire 01:39:38.119 --> 01:39:43.119 region. So it was a commercial type district. However, as 01:39:43.119 --> 01:39:44.439 the area has 01:39:44.439 --> 01:39:47.310 evolved and as the area has developed it's kind of 01:39:47.310 --> 01:39:48.600 developed in a different 01:39:48.600 --> 01:39:53.520 way that no longer really meets that definition of the 01:39:53.520 --> 01:39:54.960 regional mixed use 01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:58.090 center. So let's just look at the adjacent land uses so you 01:39:58.090 --> 01:39:59.000 can see what 01:39:59.000 --> 01:40:02.760 I'm talking about. If you'll look along I-35 that has 01:40:02.760 --> 01:40:04.079 developed with commercial 01:40:04.079 --> 01:40:08.020 uses. There are hotels and offices with that frontage to I- 01:40:08.020 --> 01:40:10.000 35. However, as you 01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:13.579 move away toward the west between the 35 commercial 01:40:13.579 --> 01:40:17.760 corridor and the rail line 01:40:17.760 --> 01:40:21.000 to the west this has really developed with a lot of 01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:22.600 industrial uses, some 01:40:22.600 --> 01:40:26.029 light industrial uses. So it's kind of developed in a way 01:40:26.029 --> 01:40:26.760 that wasn't 01:40:26.760 --> 01:40:31.579 appropriate for that future land use. So we come to the 01:40:31.579 --> 01:40:33.039 current comprehensive 01:40:33.039 --> 01:40:36.229 plan, Denton plan 2030 and you can see it is here's the 01:40:36.229 --> 01:40:37.239 subject property right 01:40:37.239 --> 01:40:41.000 here. You see that it has changed to business innovation. 01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:42.000 The intent of 01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:47.920 business innovation is to accommodate office parks, large 01:40:47.920 --> 01:40:49.239 employment centers 01:40:49.239 --> 01:40:53.890 and also complementary uses such as retail, restaurants, 01:40:53.890 --> 01:40:55.199 services to serve 01:40:55.199 --> 01:40:57.960 those employment centers. So that's really the intent of 01:40:57.960 --> 01:40:59.039 business innovation. 01:40:59.039 --> 01:41:04.529 It can include offices, retail and also some light 01:41:04.529 --> 01:41:06.359 industrial and warehouse 01:41:06.359 --> 01:41:10.479 uses. And there was some discussion in the work session I 01:41:10.479 --> 01:41:11.159 just want to further 01:41:11.159 --> 01:41:14.560 articulate on because there was some concern about 01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:19.720 compatibility with the 01:41:19.720 --> 01:41:23.229 existing zoning and then the proposed zoning within the 01:41:23.229 --> 01:41:24.279 future land use 01:41:24.279 --> 01:41:26.550 designation. So I just want to touch on that just a little 01:41:26.550 --> 01:41:28.319 bit. So this business 01:41:28.319 --> 01:41:32.550 innovation future land use, it can accommodate several 01:41:32.550 --> 01:41:34.520 zoning districts. So 01:41:34.520 --> 01:41:39.359 one would be the requested zoning district of employment 01:41:39.359 --> 01:41:40.039 center industrial 01:41:40.039 --> 01:41:42.619 but there are other zoning districts that could fit within 01:41:42.619 --> 01:41:43.439 that future land 01:41:43.439 --> 01:41:50.920 use designation. RCCN which is what the property to the 01:41:50.920 --> 01:41:52.199 north is currently zoned 01:41:52.199 --> 01:41:55.130 as doesn't really fit within that future land use 01:41:55.130 --> 01:41:56.920 designation because of some of 01:41:56.920 --> 01:42:01.149 the uses. It doesn't meet the intent. And so there will be 01:42:01.149 --> 01:42:02.279 future discussions 01:42:02.279 --> 01:42:05.760 regarding rezoning in order for the area to come into line 01:42:05.760 --> 01:42:06.680 more with what the 01:42:06.680 --> 01:42:11.640 future land use designation is. So with that I'll back up a 01:42:11.640 --> 01:42:12.640 little bit and look 01:42:12.640 --> 01:42:16.100 at what's on the ground now, what the zoning is. So 01:42:16.100 --> 01:42:17.479 currently the property is 01:42:17.479 --> 01:42:21.729 zoned as regional center commercial downtown. The proposed 01:42:21.729 --> 01:42:23.039 rezoning is to 01:42:23.039 --> 01:42:26.000 employment center industrial ECI. If you look at the two 01:42:26.000 --> 01:42:27.319 zoning districts side by 01:42:27.319 --> 01:42:30.250 side they have a lot of similarities in terms of the 01:42:30.250 --> 01:42:31.680 commercial uses that are 01:42:31.680 --> 01:42:35.520 permitted. They both have a real broad array of what those 01:42:35.520 --> 01:42:36.560 commercial uses are 01:42:36.560 --> 01:42:39.960 and those are in your backup that was provided to you. 01:42:39.960 --> 01:42:41.119 Where the differences 01:42:41.119 --> 01:42:45.609 come is that RCCD does have a residential component. It 01:42:45.609 --> 01:42:46.399 does permit 01:42:46.399 --> 01:42:51.430 multifamily with a limitation. Whereas ECI does not have 01:42:51.430 --> 01:42:53.760 residential uses. ECI 01:42:53.760 --> 01:42:57.630 also adds a little bit more of the industrial uses that are 01:42:57.630 --> 01:42:58.119 on the 01:42:58.119 --> 01:43:01.979 industrial or on the use table that RCC doesn't permit. So 01:43:01.979 --> 01:43:03.119 it adds a little more 01:43:03.119 --> 01:43:06.649 flexibility to have employment centers but also have the 01:43:06.649 --> 01:43:08.119 complementary retail 01:43:08.119 --> 01:43:14.170 uses that are currently existing along the 35 area. So when 01:43:14.170 --> 01:43:15.640 staff looked at this 01:43:15.640 --> 01:43:18.760 rezoning application we had some considerations we looked 01:43:18.760 --> 01:43:20.800 at. First we 01:43:20.800 --> 01:43:23.260 consider the ECI is more appropriate for today's 01:43:23.260 --> 01:43:24.560 development pattern and its 01:43:24.560 --> 01:43:29.800 existing uses. First because of how it's how it's developed 01:43:29.800 --> 01:43:31.060 the industrial uses 01:43:31.060 --> 01:43:36.359 are mixing with the commercial uses that are along I-35 and 01:43:36.359 --> 01:43:37.359 the the uses that are 01:43:37.359 --> 01:43:41.329 permitted in ECI are more in line with that current 01:43:41.329 --> 01:43:44.079 development pattern. Also 01:43:44.079 --> 01:43:49.760 that the permitted uses in ECI offer more flexibility. The 01:43:49.760 --> 01:43:50.840 vehicle repair use 01:43:50.840 --> 01:43:55.069 that came in when the rezoning happened in 2011 is still 01:43:55.069 --> 01:43:56.119 there and they don't 01:43:56.119 --> 01:44:01.060 intend to vacate the property but by rezoning to ECI it 01:44:01.060 --> 01:44:02.239 would allow some of 01:44:02.239 --> 01:44:05.640 those industrial uses that if the nature of their industry 01:44:05.640 --> 01:44:06.319 changed more 01:44:06.319 --> 01:44:09.029 technologies came it would give them flexibility to expand 01:44:09.029 --> 01:44:09.840 their operation. 01:44:09.840 --> 01:44:14.189 Furthermore the property owner if if the current tenant did 01:44:14.189 --> 01:44:15.960 did vacate they could 01:44:15.960 --> 01:44:19.359 redevelop the property with more flexible uses depending on 01:44:19.359 --> 01:44:21.000 the trends of the area 01:44:21.000 --> 01:44:25.939 whether it would go more industrial or commercial. And last 01:44:25.939 --> 01:44:27.319 that the ECI does 01:44:27.319 --> 01:44:30.390 meet the intent of business innovation as a future land use 01:44:30.390 --> 01:44:31.720 designation. It is 01:44:31.720 --> 01:44:35.119 one of several zoning districts that could fall within the 01:44:35.119 --> 01:44:35.880 overarching 01:44:35.880 --> 01:44:40.130 business innovation future land use designation but it is 01:44:40.130 --> 01:44:41.239 it is appropriate 01:44:41.239 --> 01:44:44.640 due to the the uses that are permitted and the intent of 01:44:44.640 --> 01:44:45.600 providing the 01:44:45.600 --> 01:44:49.899 flexibility between employment some industrial uses but 01:44:49.899 --> 01:44:51.039 also the commercial 01:44:51.039 --> 01:44:56.020 uses as well. So when we look at subchapter 3 of the Denton 01:44:56.020 --> 01:44:56.520 development 01:44:56.520 --> 01:45:00.930 code we have two criteria that we look at for rezoning. One 01:45:00.930 --> 01:45:01.960 would be that the 01:45:01.960 --> 01:45:05.359 proposed use conforms to the Denton plan and in this case 01:45:05.359 --> 01:45:06.479 it does and then the 01:45:06.479 --> 01:45:09.119 second that the proposed rezoning would facilitate the 01:45:09.119 --> 01:45:10.199 adequate provision of 01:45:10.199 --> 01:45:13.680 public infrastructure which this does. A public 01:45:13.680 --> 01:45:16.279 notification was sent out we 01:45:16.279 --> 01:45:22.340 received no no letters in opposition or in favor other than 01:45:22.340 --> 01:45:23.800 the applicant he did 01:45:23.800 --> 01:45:28.539 send us a letter in favor. So based upon the considerations 01:45:28.539 --> 01:45:29.319 and also the 01:45:29.319 --> 01:45:32.420 criteria for approval staff does recommend approval of this 01:45:32.420 --> 01:45:33.119 request. I 01:45:33.119 --> 01:45:36.010 can stand for questions the applicant couldn't be here this 01:45:36.010 --> 01:45:36.920 evening but I can 01:45:36.920 --> 01:45:40.819 answer any questions or some questions that you have. And 01:45:40.819 --> 01:45:41.720 he has provided an 01:45:41.720 --> 01:45:47.399 email which you have stating that he would not be present 01:45:47.399 --> 01:45:47.479 today. 01:45:48.000 --> 01:45:59.270 Questions for staff? Thank you. This is a public hearing. 01:45:59.270 --> 01:46:00.640 Seeing no one else in the 01:46:00.640 --> 01:46:06.689 audience wishing to speak we'll close the public hearing 01:46:06.689 --> 01:46:08.319 and the chair will 01:46:08.319 --> 01:46:11.079 entertain a motion. 01:46:16.760 --> 01:46:21.420 Commissioner Taylor. Thank you chair. I move approval I 01:46:21.420 --> 01:46:22.239 move recommendation of 01:46:22.239 --> 01:46:26.000 approval of this item to City Council. Thank you. 01:46:26.000 --> 01:46:29.880 Commissioner Dudowitz. Thank you I second the motion. Okay 01:46:29.880 --> 01:46:31.560 have a first and a 01:46:31.560 --> 01:46:35.479 second we will call for a vote on the board. 01:46:44.560 --> 01:46:51.350 The motion carries 6-0. Moves us to our last item on our 01:46:51.350 --> 01:46:53.520 agenda concluding items. 01:46:53.520 --> 01:47:01.800 I assume that's same thing as future items. New term. 01:47:01.800 --> 01:47:04.720 Commissioner Bruegel. Thank you 01:47:04.720 --> 01:47:08.119 chair. I understand we just switched this new technology so 01:47:08.119 --> 01:47:08.840 maybe it got dropped 01:47:08.840 --> 01:47:11.119 but I was hoping we could get a chance to look at the 01:47:11.119 --> 01:47:12.520 matrix again sometime soon 01:47:12.520 --> 01:47:15.569 just kind of check in and see what we're at with that. Yes 01:47:15.569 --> 01:47:17.439 at the last meeting if you 01:47:17.439 --> 01:47:20.729 recall I had to juggle some of those requests and 01:47:20.729 --> 01:47:22.520 prioritize them. I'm still 01:47:22.520 --> 01:47:25.670 working on those to be blunt so as soon as we get to them I 01:47:25.670 --> 01:47:26.439 'll provide them in 01:47:26.439 --> 01:47:32.119 the packet. Thank you. Commissioner Taylor. Thank you chair 01:47:32.119 --> 01:47:33.520 . I would like to request 01:47:33.520 --> 01:47:38.710 a future work session agenda item to discuss forming a sub 01:47:38.710 --> 01:47:40.420 committee to look 01:47:40.420 --> 01:47:47.439 at a city initiated rezoning of the area off Mesa Drive and 01:47:47.439 --> 01:47:49.119 Shuler that we've 01:47:49.119 --> 01:47:51.319 seen tonight and we've seen several cases in the past 01:47:51.319 --> 01:47:53.159 couple of years and I 01:47:53.159 --> 01:47:56.380 think it would be good for us to or some subset of this 01:47:56.380 --> 01:47:57.439 body to have some 01:47:57.439 --> 01:48:01.939 discussions about it maybe reach out to the property owners 01:48:01.939 --> 01:48:03.340 out there and stop 01:48:03.340 --> 01:48:07.760 this one lot at a time rezone and just go ahead and rezone 01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:10.000 the entire area. 01:48:11.319 --> 01:48:15.000 Anything else? We'll prepare an item probably not for the 01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:17.640 next meeting but the following 01:48:17.640 --> 01:48:27.420 meeting to that to present to you with program plan. Any 01:48:27.420 --> 01:48:31.760 other items? With that 01:48:31.760 --> 01:48:35.789 we will close tonight's planning and zoning Commission 01:48:35.789 --> 01:48:38.079 meeting at 7 0 5. Thank 01:48:38.079 --> 01:48:40.439 you.