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going to go ahead and open our work session. Our first item

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clarification of agenda items. We will receive a work

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session report on I

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legislate. If I may interject Chairperson, we'll go ahead

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and start with the

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clarification of agenda items for the regular meeting. If

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anybody has any

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questions on the plots if not we can skip that and go

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straight into the site

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plan for Razor Ranch. I have one question. Sure and we can

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go ahead and present the

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plot for you if you like. Sure. Okay. Which plot is it? It

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's the villages of Carmel. I'll ask Mike to come

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forward and present villages of Carmel. Hi. You can answer

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your question while I bring it up here.

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Okay well I was curious about the drainage easement. There

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north side and one on the south side. I'm just kind of

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curious is it going to go

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underneath is that Cabrillo Drive? Is there drainage going

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right through the

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center of the neighborhood? And also I just want to point

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out there was a typo

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too on the north. It says drainage easement by separate and

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it's missing an A. I

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don't know if that matters but I know. Yeah we can change

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that before it gets

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filed. I'm going to ask her to come up and assist me with

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the drainage

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question here.

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Okay the drainage easement was? So there's the drainage eas

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ement on the north side and

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the south side and on the south side it looks like it's

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just kind of draining

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right into those two locks. So I was just I assumed that

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there's something that's

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maybe going to go underneath the property or underneath the

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street or

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something or I was just kind of wondering if you could

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explain that to me.

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The proposed subdivision will be, the drainage for the

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entire subdivision will

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be collected by inlets and underground storm pipe and there

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are two outfall

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locations. One is located off site to the north of Edwards

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Road and they're just

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they are discharged into an adjacent property owner and

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they will be

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acquiring off-site drainage easement from this property

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owner to allow them to do

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that and then also on the south side there's going to be an

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underground

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storm pipe between these two lots here and outfalling

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around approximately at

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this point and and sheet flow and they currently own this

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property as well and

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eventually I believe this is phase four and I believe that

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this this phase has

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already been approved and accounted for this drainage to

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come through them and

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they will they will convey it to an existing storm system

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over at Pocras

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Page Road. Okay thank you. Any other questions on the spot?

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Any other items to be clarified? Commissioner Beck.

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Plats? Yes. Sure if you have a question about any plot this

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is the time to... Yes sir.

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For the ease of the Commission we can go ahead and pull the

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plot up. Mike if you

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would please go to the final replot pull that up and just

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go over it for the new

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members especially to walk them through that replot please.

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Yes so what we're going to do is we are going to go through

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each item that is

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referenced in the regular agenda so we'll go through the

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plots then we'll go

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through each item we have an individual consideration item

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for site

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plan approval we also have a zoning change request we will

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go through those

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and present those to the Commission and so the reason why

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we're pulling up the

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plot should you have any questions related we thought you

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plot related question. Okay super. That being said I will

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ask Sophie Humer to

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come up and present the site plan for raise around South

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Campus for

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multi-tenant retail building. All right good evening

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Commissioner Sophie Humer

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associate planner with the City of Denton I'm presenting to

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you SP 15-5 the

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Razor Ranch Town Center phase 2B. So the request before you

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is to consider

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approval of a site plan within the Razor Ranch South Campus

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for six thousand

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eight hundred and ten square foot multi-tenant retail

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building on a portion

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of lot 10 block A of the Razor Ranch Town Center phase 1.

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map the site area that we'll be looking at tonight is

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outlined in red here this

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is 35 and this is University running east-west and just to

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overview of what I'll be doing is I'm going to go through

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the request first

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and then give you an overview of the sub districts of the

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Razor Ranch overlay for

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some of the new commissioners. I'm also going to go through

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what we require for

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a site plan approval give you an overview and then get into

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the site plan.

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So this is a document you'll be seeing it's the concept in

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the schematic plan

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for the Razor Ranch overlay district. The building that we

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RR 1 sub district these sub districts control things such

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development standards and kind of set the overall land use

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pattern for the

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Razor Ranch overlay district. So the building in question

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is located here and

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the retail sales and services are permitted in that sub

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district. Just to

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give you an overview of what we've approved so far and kind

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of the way that

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this south side is starting to build out we've approved a

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multi-tenant retail

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building located here this again this is highway 380

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The first project was multi-tenant retail building located

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here second was

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a Chili's located on lot 2 here. Raising Canes was

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immediately adjacent to the

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retail building and then the Wynco is here. The site that

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we're looking at

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tonight is this one outline outlined in yellow and red.

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to point out about the site is some of the east-west

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traffic in the major entry

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points of the site. The first one is located here off of

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highway 380 as we

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travel east along highway 380 we're gonna collect traffic

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in here here and

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then eventually we'll collect some traffic here but the

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majority of it will

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be coming in on these first two entry points. This is also

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a major entry point

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heritage trail it's gonna be a it's a future secondary

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arterial street. So to

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approve a site plan within the Razor Ranch overlay district

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we have four

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criteria for approval. The first is that the site plan

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substantially complies with

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the concept and schematic plan approved by City Council.

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This is where we use look

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at your basic land use and your permitted uses. Number two

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that the site

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plan provides for a compatible arrangement of buildings and

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land uses

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that would not adversely affect adjoining neighborhoods or

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properties

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outside of the plan. This is where we look at things like

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site and building

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design as they relate to not only the uses around it but

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also to any adjoining

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neighborhood. The third criteria for approval is that the

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site plan provides

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for the adequate and safe circulation of vehicular traffic.

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the traffic and mobility and the fourth is that the plan

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fully complies with all

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other sections of this overlay district. Two of the major

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ones are the plaza area

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requirement. They're required to provide 10 square feet of

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plaza area for every

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thousand square foot of building space and that's just the

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make sure that this site

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plan meets all of these criteria we asked for an

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architectural and civil

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site plan, landscape plan, and then also building elev

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ations. So this is the

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request before you today. The site plan is this is North.

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University is over here

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to the north. This is the building envelope. This is the

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parking field and

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this right here is the approved Wynko building. So as you

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can see their lot

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coverage they are compatible with the lot coverage and the

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landscape area

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requirement. They're over their landscaped area requirement

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. Sophie, before you go on. Sure.

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about if there was

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going to be a future building that would screen that

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somewhat assist that

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building? Yes sir I also have that elevation for us. It's

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hard to get ahead. No problem.

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This is the landscape plan. Again it's in the same

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orientation. Here's the building.

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This is the Wynko back here. Again they're providing they

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're complying with

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our parking lot landscaping and our parking lot tree canopy

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regulations.

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Question. Commissioner Detowitz. If I'm looking at that

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correctly and I'm seeing it here

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it doesn't butt up against the Wynko. There is a walkway

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behind them? Yes sir.

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lay District has an

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open mall ordinance that allows for that separation and the

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building official has

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looked at it and said that it complies with that ordinance.

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flipping the elevation a little bit so north is off to this

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side. This is a

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hardscape and plaza area requirement. As part of their pl

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aza requirement they're

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required to provide at least three elements of seven

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outlined in the Razor

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Ranch Overlay District. They're providing some covered area

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using their awnings,

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an outdoor dining area on the side of the retail building

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doing a lot of hardscape with some integrated landscape

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plannings. All of

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these pedestrian crossings as well I'll go back to the site

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plan. These will be

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done with enhanced pavers they're not just striped. There's

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also a bike rack on

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the side of the building. So these are the elevations. This

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will be next to Wynko. This is the breezeway back here.

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the north elevation looking south. This is the south

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elevation looking north and

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this is the front elevation. Now I'm going to talk about

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the architectural

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compatibility with the leading project. This was a pad

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commonly

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referred to as pad 12 when we approved it but it's the

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leading multi-tenant

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retail and as you can see it's got some of the same

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geometry building materials

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and character as the one coming in. And this is the

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approved Wynko elevation to

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show you the shaded area of approximately where it will but

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the Wynko.

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So just to go through the criteria for approval one more

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time the site plan

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does comply with the overall concept and schematic plan.

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Retail uses are permitted.

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The site plan also provides a compatible arrangement of

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buildings and land uses.

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It's interior to the overall development and it's

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surrounded by

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other commercial uses. The site plan also provides for the

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adequate and safe

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circulation of vehicular traffic. It's got shared access

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and internal drive

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aisles and there's safe movement for pedestrians and veh

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sections of the overlay

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district including architectural compatibility and the pl

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aza area. Staff

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is going to recommend approval of the proposed site plan as

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it is consistent

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with the Razor Ranch overlay district. Any questions?

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Questions? We just want

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questions. Commissioner Dudowitz. Does RED have any tenants

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yet signed for that

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property? They will be here tonight to answer that. I do

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not know.

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Commissioner Tyver. Thank you chair. Could you go back to

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probably I think the

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second map in your presentation the overall what's been

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approved? That one.

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And just to remind everybody here and looking forward the

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landscape plan in

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this lot looks really good. It has a lot of hardscape, a

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lot of hardscape and

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landscape brought together. Makes a nice pavilion open

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square area. We had

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approved a lot 10 site plan I believe and I know that they

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're planning on

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coming back with changes but that also that's the main

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central central pavilion

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center to the entire development and I just wanted to

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express my my expectation

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that by adding these other pavilions elsewhere we don't

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diminish or reduce

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the requirement for that real core central landscape and p

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avilion space. So

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I do think that's that's one of the key features that that

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allows some

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flexibility on things like the Winko or the larger lots

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where they might not be

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as as paviliony or pedestrian oriented but to know that the

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center of the

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development still will be even as it gets redesigned. And I

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had a question for

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legal. I just wanted to clarify are there any I think I

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might have missed a meeting

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on this so I might have missed content. Is there any

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expected changes on the

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razor overlay ordinance? Well currently we're negotiating

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changes with staff to

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see if we can improve the overlay in some way but we have

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not had that in a

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finalized form where we could bring it to you yet. Okay but

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that would not affect

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the zoning of this parcel. The design will remain the same.

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Thank you.

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Commissioner Back. Yes probably owe this to Mr. Taylor but

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looking at this

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picture here this is a large area razor ranch and if it's I

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'm just curious

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last meeting you raised the issue of impervious and per

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vious ground

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conditions. I just see a lot of concrete going in here and

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removing a lot of the

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absorbability that we're going to be taking away from this

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area so is any

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consideration been given to this as we move forward not

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just particularly this

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one but we're starting obviously and as this expands what's

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going to be the

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requirement there for parking space? Sure let me go back to

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this diagram this

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will help us. Each of these sub areas has their own lot

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coverage the impervious

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surface area and then also a landscape requirement the

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impervious surface area. As each of these parcels builds

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out we look at not only

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lot coverage and landscaped area but we also look at it in

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context of the

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overall development and what we know informally from RED

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that is coming

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forward. A couple months ago and forgive me I don't know

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the month I believe it

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was February RED presented to City Council and to the

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Planning and Zoning

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Commission an overall vision for the razor ranch town

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center core area and

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that's the majority of this area here and it not only

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incorporates landscaped

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area which is really which is important for your

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relationship kind of as you

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walk through providing shade your relationship to the

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buildings and how

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you move throughout the site so those very minute details

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are being considered

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at every site plan. So there's something in the works that

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's not just going in it? Yes correct yeah we're not this

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this site was designed to kind of mute that

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elevation of Wynko but as we built out and I believe RED

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the applicant can

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speak to this a little bit more as this builds out. We also

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do have a vision

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book that was presented to City Council and I can provide

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that to the Planning

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and Zoning Commission as well. Thank you. Commissioner

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Hutchibos. Thank you Chair.

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Could you bring anyone could you bring us up to speed on so

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the other so

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Chili's I saw Raising Cane there so understanding it's a ph

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ased approach

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can you give me the the the history of or kind of bring us

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up to speed on I

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guess when that phase starts just so I can have an

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understanding of the history

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of the project understand it's been ongoing. Okay. Sophie

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can you pull up a

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map that shows the marketplace campus too so we can show

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what our extent of

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the Resarange-Irvillier district? Oh you didn't have it on

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your... No. I think that we can use that.

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This schematic plan or concept plan reflects development to

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the north and to

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the south of 380. The north component is the marketplace

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where you've already

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seen build out with some of your big boxes and some of your

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restaurants and

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smaller retail spaces as well. To the south is what we've

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started seeing more

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recently. The Resarange-Irvillier district was adopted to

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enable the

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development of mixed use mixed juices and primarily compr

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ising of retail uses

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if you look at that shaded drawing that's before you I don

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't know if you

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can read it but their components in that that reflect RR1

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and RR2. Within that

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overlay district we did a deeper dive and we evaluated what

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uses are

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appropriate within that color coded map. Based on that

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color coding each

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development that comes in for site plan approval has to be

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has to come before

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the P&Z for approval to the south. That being said along

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the frontages of the

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right-of-ways you potentially have retail you have

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restaurants which you're

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seeing already such as the Chili's and what have you. We

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also have which Sophie

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mentioned the vision book which is the town center in

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itself which would be

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located in the RR1 component. If we go to the pseudo-plat

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drawing

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Sophie is going to use her cursor and kind of draw the

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football shape as

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everybody calls it here of the town center. That would

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comprise... correct

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Sophie go ahead. This is the main drive as you enter the

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main

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town center then these are all retail around the outside.

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With a plaza within

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that component and then we have potential larger

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developments within the

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future lot 10 that you can see and then smaller pad sites

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along 35 your typical

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development pattern. The uses that come before you are v

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etted the site plans are

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vetted they go through an extensive development review

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process and then they

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come before you want you know showing compliance with the

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overlay district

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conditions and requirements. All right. Can I just follow

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up? Commissioner Dadaway.

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To help as we looked at this site plan for this retail that

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we saw tonight we

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did the same thing early on that one red square called

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retail and we looked at

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elevations and we looked at the parking lot we looked at

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the trees we looked at

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the sidewalks bicycle racks and we did the same thing with

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chilies and raising

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cane so for your information and we're doing the same thing

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today as we have

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done for each of those and I have to tell you some of those

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were really

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questioned if we had enough trees in there if the sidewalks

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were properly

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placed and the pedestrian crosswalks were correct so this

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Commission has gone

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through that fairly extensively but if you have anything

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else I'm going to go

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back to notes and bring you up to speed on that but I think

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that'll give you a

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feel that yeah we're looking at everything. Sure. Thank you

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. Sure.

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Any other questions on this item? Thank you. I move on to

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public hearing items.

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We will discuss the final report then we have questions of

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regarding to Judy's request. We'll have the Z15-0022

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presentation.

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Good evening I'm Julie Wyatt and this is Z15-22 Hall

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Edition. So this request is to

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rezone the subject property from Regional Center Commercial

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Downtown to

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Employment Center Industrial and it's approximately one and

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a half acres. The

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subject property is north of Shuler Street and it is west

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of I-35. I'm just

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to give you a little bit of background the property was rez

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oned from Regional

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Center Commercial Neighborhood RCCN to its current RCCD in

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2011. That was under

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the previous comprehensive plan the Denton plan and that

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that made sense at

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the time because the Denton plan had this as regional mixed

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-use center so so

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that rezoning made sense the intent of regional mixed-use

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center if you

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remember was to include shopping entertainment and

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employment uses for a

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regional scale and so when you think of that you should

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think mall or razor

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ranch but as the property and as the area has developed it

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's developed with

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with commercial uses along I-35 but also in more industrial

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uses as you move to

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the west there is a railroad track right here so so as as

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you move to the west

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the uses have kind of changed so a little more industrial

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uses so with that

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information when the Denton plan 2030 was was being

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developed and they looked

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at this area and determined maybe that future land use

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designation wasn't the

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most most appropriate future land use designation for this

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area and in fact

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business innovation would be more appropriate business

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innovation is

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intended to have large office parks employment centers and

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also to have a

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associated in a complementary retail and services so so the

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the future land use

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designation is that business innovation now so the the

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current zoning as I said

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is RCCD the proposed zoning is is ECI and and as you can

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see that's a that's a

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logical extension of the ECI that was rezoned earlier in

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this year and the

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applicant has come come back to to extend that that that EC

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I when you look

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at the two zoning districts they have a lot of similarities

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RCCD and ECI RCCD

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has a broad amount of commercial uses as does ECI RCCD does

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however have a

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residential component it does have a mixed use or I'm sorry

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a multifamily use

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that is permitted with a limitation ECI doesn't have a

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residential component but

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it does add some more industrial uses some light industrial

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and some

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warehouse uses that RCCD doesn't have so when we looked at

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so when staff

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analyzed the request we looked at some considerations first

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ECI really is more

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appropriate for the development pattern that has evolved in

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this area it really

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does speak to the the existing uses and it sort of

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continues that existing

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development pattern the permitted uses in ECI offer more

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flexibility for future

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development when it was rezoned in in 2011 that was to

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permit a vehicle repair

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use that that tenant is still there they're still operating

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the vehicle

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repair use on the site but they wanted to have that

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flexibility in case the

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00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,569
technology in their industry changed and evolved or if the

540
00:26:20,569 --> 00:26:21,960
property owner if they

541
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,210
left and the property owner wanted to redevelop the

542
00:26:24,210 --> 00:26:25,880
property and ECI gives a

543
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,539
little more flexibility in and offering a few more of those

544
00:26:29,539 --> 00:26:31,079
light industrial uses

545
00:26:31,079 --> 00:26:34,519
so that they could respond to any more market conditions

546
00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:35,640
and also to

547
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,230
continue that land use pattern that's already begun in the

548
00:26:39,230 --> 00:26:41,039
area ECI does meet

549
00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:43,519
the intent of business and of the business innovation

550
00:26:43,519 --> 00:26:44,079
future land use

551
00:26:44,079 --> 00:26:47,559
designation once again because it it allows the employment

552
00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:48,480
center uses but it

553
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:53,599
also permits those commercial uses that are that are also

554
00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:55,640
embedded in the current

555
00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,000
RCCD which are complementary to those employment centers

556
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,599
the criteria for

557
00:27:01,599 --> 00:27:05,240
approval for rezoning is in sub chapter 3 of the debt and

558
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,640
development code first

559
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,369
that it conforms to the future land use element and and

560
00:27:09,369 --> 00:27:10,559
this request does and

561
00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:14,009
then also that the proposed rezoning does facilitate the

562
00:27:14,009 --> 00:27:15,160
adequate provision of

563
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,440
public infrastructure which it does public notification was

564
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,680
sent out and we

565
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:26,180
received no notices in favor or in opposition other than

566
00:27:26,180 --> 00:27:28,480
the property owner

567
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:33,130
so based upon the considerations that I've discussed as

568
00:27:33,130 --> 00:27:34,359
well as the criteria

569
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,430
for approval in sub chapter 3 staff does recommend approval

570
00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:39,759
of this request

571
00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:44,259
questions questions Commissioner Dudowitz yes refresh my

572
00:27:44,259 --> 00:27:46,319
memory RCC - in

573
00:27:46,319 --> 00:27:50,549
yes which is the zoning that's up in there what's what's

574
00:27:50,549 --> 00:27:52,000
printed in that area

575
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,049
what's the difference between that and D RCC in is a little

576
00:27:56,049 --> 00:27:57,400
less intense than

577
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,720
RCCD so it's it's still a regional commercial zoning

578
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,400
district but it has

579
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:10,960
just a few less intense uses than RCCD so if we approve ECI

580
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,720
up there then that's

581
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,680
going to encroach into RCC and so future rezoning issues

582
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,160
make a rise because of

583
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,039
that designation well if there was a redevelopment of the R

584
00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:22,440
CC and they would

585
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,869
be required to meet any buffer buffers that are required in

586
00:28:25,869 --> 00:28:27,119
sub chapter 13 of

587
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,559
the Denton development code so it is something that staff

588
00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:30,359
is aware of and we

589
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,759
did discuss internally but but with the buff the landscape

590
00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:34,519
buffers that are

591
00:28:34,519 --> 00:28:38,279
acquired with with the Denton development code and also

592
00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:39,400
just the

593
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,799
commercial uses that are permitted in both we felt like it

594
00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:43,000
was an appropriate

595
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:50,000
appropriate rezoning Commissioner Beck thank you mr. chair

596
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,420
isn't there a housing a small housing development in that

597
00:28:53,420 --> 00:28:54,279
area there is

598
00:28:54,279 --> 00:29:01,480
housing off Shiler or Skyler there there isn't a housing

599
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,720
development here there

600
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,240
is this is a charter school any redevelopment of this site

601
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:06,920
once again

602
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,039
would require any buffers in accordance with the Denton

603
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:11,200
development code there

604
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,849
is some some low density residential on the other side of

605
00:29:14,849 --> 00:29:16,319
this of these railroad

606
00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:19,880
tracks here but you don't access those except about 380

607
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,039
that is a barrier the

608
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:24,440
the railroad tracks and so there's no there's no access

609
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,640
okay is there room you

610
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,599
mentioned the possibility of residential here multi-family

611
00:29:31,599 --> 00:29:32,720
and single-family but

612
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,099
is that a realistic single-family is not permitted in those

613
00:29:37,099 --> 00:29:37,799
zoning districts

614
00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:41,730
multi-family is permitted in RCC D it does require it does

615
00:29:41,730 --> 00:29:42,359
have a limitation

616
00:29:42,359 --> 00:29:47,099
and what that the project must be either mixed use and meet

617
00:29:47,099 --> 00:29:47,960
the definition of

618
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,920
mixed use or or obtain a specific use permit so there are

619
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,440
additional hurdles

620
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,960
that they would have to a property owner within that zoning

621
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,799
district would have to

622
00:29:57,799 --> 00:30:01,339
overcome to develop a property with multi-family but it is

623
00:30:01,339 --> 00:30:02,359
a permitted use

624
00:30:02,359 --> 00:30:06,240
and and could be compatible within that zoning district

625
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,279
okay and one last

626
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:12,089
question traffic flow if this area takes all means of e

627
00:30:12,089 --> 00:30:13,920
gress and ingress are

628
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,849
purely the service road on 35 and Mesa any plans to open

629
00:30:18,849 --> 00:30:21,000
something else up or

630
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,230
I'm gonna ask Earl Escobar up to the podium to see if he if

631
00:30:25,230 --> 00:30:26,480
the mobility plan

632
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,920
if there are any additional connections that are proposed

633
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,240
for the area okay so

634
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,200
do we see any problems with that I mean again this area

635
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,559
would have to take off

636
00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:40,990
but if it really gets busy and it brings in a lot of

637
00:30:40,990 --> 00:30:43,119
traffic that's gonna burden

638
00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:46,230
those I go over I've got my pets over there on Mesa Road I

639
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:49,079
'm familiar with it a little bit are there any

640
00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:53,130
future considerations about how to deal with it if we do

641
00:30:53,130 --> 00:30:53,880
well and they may have

642
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,119
to revise the mobility plan based upon any additional

643
00:30:57,119 --> 00:30:58,519
development that that

644
00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:02,640
goes out there if I can interject as development occurs

645
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,880
this is a large tract

646
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,130
I understand but as development does occur or rezonings

647
00:31:07,130 --> 00:31:08,140
occur we will

648
00:31:08,140 --> 00:31:10,799
obviously have to take that into consideration as property

649
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:11,359
is plotted

650
00:31:11,359 --> 00:31:14,240
understanding the access depending on the size of the

651
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,079
property will be

652
00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:17,609
required internal access easements that step out to other

653
00:31:17,609 --> 00:31:18,680
properties that would

654
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,460
alleviate the flow in different sections of the right of

655
00:31:21,460 --> 00:31:23,359
way for example so those

656
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:26,309
items the infrastructure the load or the level of service

657
00:31:26,309 --> 00:31:27,279
on the right of ways

658
00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:30,119
would be addressed at the planning stage regardless or if a

659
00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:31,200
zoning case came up

660
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,769
where we understood that there could be a negative impact

661
00:31:33,769 --> 00:31:34,640
what would be the

662
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,509
measures that would be taken to mitigate that would also be

663
00:31:38,509 --> 00:31:39,279
addressed

664
00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:48,029
Thank you. Commissioner Taylor. Thank you Chair. So every

665
00:31:48,029 --> 00:31:51,440
time we do a rezoning over

666
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,670
here I bring this up this area and especially as you go

667
00:31:55,670 --> 00:31:56,680
down Mesa this

668
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,130
area here there's a lot of open space so that could be

669
00:31:59,130 --> 00:32:00,240
built as anything in

670
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,680
theory but if you go down Mesa you have a lot of kind of

671
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,960
light industrial

672
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,190
employment center type uses you have a welding supply shop

673
00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:10,119
some business

674
00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:13,890
supply shops some kind of construction company all of these

675
00:32:13,890 --> 00:32:14,680
things that that

676
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,079
really probably don't lean very much toward business

677
00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:19,400
innovation but lean more

678
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,910
toward traditional light industrial employment center and

679
00:32:21,910 --> 00:32:23,000
we're leaving

680
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:29,559
everything in Mesa still zoned what is this RCCD which is

681
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:30,839
kind of mixed-use

682
00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:37,160
retail apartments and office buildings which which is kind

683
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:37,880
of a stretch for

684
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,200
these low you know kind of spread out industrial buildings

685
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,640
and and we are just

686
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,880
and the worst part is we're so we're kind of piecing this

687
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,000
together into

688
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,980
eventually probably a light industrial area but we're doing

689
00:32:52,980 --> 00:32:54,240
it at the edges

690
00:32:54,240 --> 00:33:01,789
against RCCN which is apartments duplexes and retail and

691
00:33:01,789 --> 00:33:03,799
small offices so

692
00:33:03,799 --> 00:33:08,640
we're pushing the conflicting uses together but we're not

693
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:09,640
fixing the zoning

694
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,039
to the south and we are ending up with this little strip

695
00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:15,359
200 feet wide 150 feet

696
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:18,880
wide or whatever it is zoned to a more intensive use

697
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,240
surrounded by what in

698
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,079
theory could be residential I don't think anybody's gonna

699
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:22,759
build an apartment

700
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:26,730
complex over there but that's kind of its intended use so I

701
00:33:26,730 --> 00:33:28,880
think that we need

702
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,339
to and we could draw a line basically just at the edge of

703
00:33:32,339 --> 00:33:33,519
this property or

704
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:38,240
those properties yeah right there kind of just to the north

705
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,880
end and say maybe

706
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,279
that's where we think the light industrial should end and

707
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:43,839
then make

708
00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:47,440
everything north of their business innovation and then take

709
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:48,359
this triangle

710
00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:53,000
down here and move it to what it already is and and the way

711
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,279
it's being developed

712
00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:58,369
now which is more of like a light industrial I think there

713
00:33:58,369 --> 00:33:59,319
's room for light

714
00:33:59,319 --> 00:34:02,289
industrial within business innovation the comp plan does

715
00:34:02,289 --> 00:34:03,079
mention light

716
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:06,569
industrial and we talked about that actually this morning

717
00:34:06,569 --> 00:34:07,339
in terms of a

718
00:34:07,339 --> 00:34:10,369
micro level and then a macro level for this entire business

719
00:34:10,369 --> 00:34:12,360
innovation area so

720
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:17,010
when we're looking at it approximately this area and you're

721
00:34:17,010 --> 00:34:18,239
right this area

722
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,429
has sort of developed with a light industrial character so

723
00:34:21,429 --> 00:34:23,079
when we look at

724
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:26,500
the micro level that might be the more light industrial

725
00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:27,599
portion of the business

726
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:32,309
in it business innovation but we we felt like there was

727
00:34:32,309 --> 00:34:34,079
room for all the the

728
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:38,889
corporate campus that the employment office park may then

729
00:34:38,889 --> 00:34:40,260
be going more to

730
00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:44,550
the north and then along 35 more commercial uses so and

731
00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:45,719
then all may want

732
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,650
to add to that as well but that's kind of what we talked

733
00:34:48,650 --> 00:34:49,840
about internally so

734
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,469
absolutely Julie one of the things one of the items that

735
00:34:54,469 --> 00:34:55,440
you brought forward as

736
00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,079
a discussion topic is absolutely valid the question is when

737
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:01,199
we look at just

738
00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:04,599
this subject site is it appropriate and beyond that what

739
00:35:04,599 --> 00:35:05,880
should we do to ensure

740
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,719
we meet the intent and the vision that is proposed that

741
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,079
would require for

742
00:35:11,079 --> 00:35:15,869
example a city initiated zoning to bring all that in and we

743
00:35:15,869 --> 00:35:17,960
are now as we you

744
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,670
know embark on the implementation of the comp plan there's

745
00:35:20,670 --> 00:35:22,039
one of the items that

746
00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:24,630
we're going to start addressing eminently so we do

747
00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:26,079
anticipate that we've

748
00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:31,039
got within the city areas that need to be brought together

749
00:35:31,039 --> 00:35:32,519
under one consistent

750
00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:36,840
zoning to meet and accommodate what is proposed in the

751
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,920
future so I'm hearing

752
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:44,510
that eminently we are looking to rezone all of the areas

753
00:35:44,510 --> 00:35:47,360
west of Mesa and

754
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:52,010
whatever that street is right there to be more consistent

755
00:35:52,010 --> 00:35:53,360
with the current

756
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:58,559
development pattern in conjunction with implementing and

757
00:35:58,559 --> 00:36:01,599
when we realize the

758
00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:04,300
comp plan and the elements associated with it does it

759
00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:07,679
actually fit together so

760
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:10,190
we're tasked with two things one is to look at a property

761
00:36:10,190 --> 00:36:11,239
owner who brings in a

762
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:16,349
request to rezone a property for a square and I'm saying

763
00:36:16,349 --> 00:36:18,000
that for a reason

764
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,280
that zoned RCCD that was pulled out of RCCN and rezone to R

765
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,639
CCD yet we know

766
00:36:23,639 --> 00:36:27,469
that the more light industrial type business innovation in

767
00:36:27,469 --> 00:36:28,199
the future is

768
00:36:28,199 --> 00:36:31,639
more viable given the location of these properties as well

769
00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:33,000
so we're tasked with

770
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,650
now evaluating with the implementation of the comp plan how

771
00:36:35,650 --> 00:36:36,400
do we meet these

772
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,019
goals and objectives one of the ways to do it is to move

773
00:36:40,019 --> 00:36:41,480
forward with the city

774
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,920
initiative zoning but again that needs to be flushed and

775
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,559
discussed very openly

776
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:51,500
and transparently with yourselves and ultimately the City

777
00:36:51,500 --> 00:36:52,079
Council

778
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,050
no I said eminently now because I can't give you a date

779
00:37:06,050 --> 00:37:07,880
right now but I can tell

780
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,420
you this that they are projected dates that are in draft

781
00:37:11,420 --> 00:37:13,360
form right now that

782
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,650
will be formalized within the next couple of months thank

783
00:37:17,650 --> 00:37:20,599
you any other

784
00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:29,739
questions on this item or this topic thank you and I move

785
00:37:29,739 --> 00:37:31,199
back I think I may

786
00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:37,039
have skipped we got kicked off the before I get to those I

787
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:38,960
skipped over the two

788
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,780
minutes were there any questions or corrections that we

789
00:37:43,780 --> 00:37:44,280
need to talk about

790
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,579
on that before we get into public I commissioner Dudowitz I

791
00:37:48,579 --> 00:37:50,960
would like to

792
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:57,099
ask that we get the minutes at appropriate time because

793
00:37:57,099 --> 00:37:58,119
going back now

794
00:37:58,119 --> 00:38:01,599
month to recall what was said and done it's very difficult

795
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:02,679
when we see these

796
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:06,639
minutes a month later I know it's staff issues but it

797
00:38:06,639 --> 00:38:07,840
really you know for us to

798
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,860
look at these minutes and say hey was that what was said

799
00:38:10,860 --> 00:38:12,039
and attended it's a

800
00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:14,539
little bit difficult when it's a month out I'm sorry but I

801
00:38:14,539 --> 00:38:15,400
would like to get

802
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:20,050
them on a timely basis so we can review them and you know

803
00:38:20,050 --> 00:38:21,360
do our Bentley job on

804
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:28,039
them and just kind of from up yes I'm sorry

805
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:33,440
it's mr. headless thank you sure I did have one one point

806
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,559
and so it would be

807
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:49,679
page 11 line 41 the the content I think is a little off I

808
00:38:49,679 --> 00:38:50,719
was specifically

809
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:57,329
speaking to that property that if that particular mr. Kelso

810
00:38:57,329 --> 00:38:59,199
's plan is to move

811
00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:04,030
towards retail specifically city should city or mr. Kelso

812
00:39:04,030 --> 00:39:06,079
should arrange to meet

813
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:10,440
specifically with respect to that property because that's

814
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,199
something he's

815
00:39:11,199 --> 00:39:15,000
indicated he's going to do it seems almost imminent that he

816
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:15,679
's going to

817
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:23,289
request that at some point so it seems what's the word pr

818
00:39:23,289 --> 00:39:24,719
udent I guess if you

819
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,730
will to go ahead and initiate that comes I don't know how

820
00:39:28,730 --> 00:39:30,559
that process works if

821
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:36,739
we if we as a board have to wait for mr. Kelso to approach

822
00:39:36,739 --> 00:39:38,239
us then that's one

823
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,840
thing but I would like it just in the minutes to kind of

824
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,400
more point towards

825
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,719
then that I would I requested they reach out to us whatever

826
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:49,800
that I don't know

827
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:55,909
what the the proper process is but I just don't think it's

828
00:39:55,909 --> 00:39:57,679
efficient to if

829
00:39:57,679 --> 00:39:59,980
it's going to be a long conversation we should probably

830
00:39:59,980 --> 00:40:00,800
have it sooner than

831
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,119
later point of clarification are you is the statement on

832
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:06,400
line 41 incorrect

833
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,059
because what we can do is go back and listen to the minutes

834
00:40:09,059 --> 00:40:09,920
one more time and

835
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,920
revise that to reply I understand what you were saying yes

836
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:13,760
so Athene and I will

837
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,159
sit down and modify that line yes that I think this is a

838
00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:18,079
little more broad

839
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:21,250
general it's a more general statement then we'll then

840
00:40:21,250 --> 00:40:22,000
specific say we'll

841
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,679
rectify that okay thank you so on this particular point of

842
00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:26,519
minister we go ahead

843
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:28,960
and approve it or we're going to need to push this back it

844
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,159
's the Commission's

845
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:34,159
decision to either note it with that correction the

846
00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:35,239
vacation exaction okay

847
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,469
all right and kind of the point of order for me since we

848
00:40:39,469 --> 00:40:40,280
have these as two

849
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,719
separate items I assume the reason that we do is because

850
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:43,719
some commissioners

851
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,849
weren't here for the 19th and so they'll probably want to

852
00:40:46,849 --> 00:40:48,079
recuse themselves on

853
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:51,559
that vote but then on the second when we call for that

854
00:40:51,559 --> 00:40:52,480
since you all were in

855
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,820
attendance and part of the Commission we would vote at that

856
00:40:54,820 --> 00:40:56,760
time okay all right

857
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,909
is there anything else that we missed that we need to cover

858
00:40:59,909 --> 00:41:00,920
before we go back

859
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,320
and start with I legislate and also then on the travel

860
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,280
demand model anything else

861
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:15,059
just as any in the clarification of time I see we have food

862
00:41:15,059 --> 00:41:17,760
this evening how long

863
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,539
will it take to do the I legislate update we want to do

864
00:41:20,539 --> 00:41:21,559
that and then break

865
00:41:21,559 --> 00:41:27,050
for food and then come back and do the travel while we eat

866
00:41:27,050 --> 00:41:29,119
okay let's let's

867
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:36,079
move on to the I legislate presentation

868
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,280
, okay.

869
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:23,519
Good afternoon Commissioners. I just have a brief brief

870
00:42:23,519 --> 00:42:25,960
training for you to get

871
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,389
familiar with the new software that we will be using for

872
00:42:29,389 --> 00:42:30,719
you to download to see

873
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,949
packets in front of you if you can pull up your iPads and I

874
00:42:34,949 --> 00:42:35,960
'll walk you through

875
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,050
the steps of it and you also will have a tiny little cutout

876
00:42:39,050 --> 00:42:40,079
on your desk that's

877
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:44,730
going to give you your login and password that you will

878
00:42:44,730 --> 00:42:48,039
need so on your

879
00:42:48,039 --> 00:42:51,719
desktop for your iPad you should see an app that is I

880
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,480
legislate if you can

881
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,599
select that one for me

882
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:02,119
do you each have one?

883
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,679
The next steps are going to be for you to download it it

884
00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:08,639
should give you the

885
00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:11,639
option to log in

886
00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:17,440
and that's where you will for the site you'll do the ditten

887
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,400
- texas tx dot

888
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,400
granicus dot com

889
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,360
, okay.

890
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:06,800
Will the dropbox be gone then? We will still use the drop

891
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:14,000
box but you're

892
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,760
primarily going to use the I legislate. Dropbox will pretty

893
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:17,519
much be a backup

894
00:44:17,519 --> 00:44:17,519
source for you. The DCC document will be in this format

895
00:44:17,519 --> 00:44:22,840
also? They'll be in the

896
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:22,840
dropbox. It won't go in my I legislate. I legislate as for

897
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:29,880
upcoming agendas. So

898
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,170
going back and forth they'll be having to bring them both

899
00:44:33,170 --> 00:44:34,239
up at the same time

900
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:41,409
and try to. Okay are you all in? Do you have a screen that

901
00:44:41,409 --> 00:44:42,199
is similar to this?

902
00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:47,320
So your most recent ones are going to be towards the top

903
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,760
you will see other

904
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,289
boards and commissions in here but like you see you should

905
00:44:51,289 --> 00:44:52,199
see the Planning and

906
00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:55,369
Zoning Commission for this meeting if you just double click

907
00:44:55,369 --> 00:44:56,800
on it it's going

908
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:02,849
to take you to the agenda and what you see it's going to be

909
00:45:02,849 --> 00:45:04,880
similar to the PDF

910
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,349
documents that you receive in Dropbox. You can scroll up

911
00:45:09,349 --> 00:45:10,760
and down through the

912
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,880
agenda through the items that are listed and you can

913
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,320
utilize the paper clips

914
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,880
that are listed next to the caption to pull up the actual

915
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,440
backup materials. It

916
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,760
will give you access to pull up the AIS and each exhibit.

917
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,119
Now you will see these

918
00:45:28,119 --> 00:45:31,079
are going to be separate than before you will be able to

919
00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:32,599
pull up the AIS and each

920
00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:38,840
exhibit in a completely separate PDF document.

921
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:53,940
There should be the agendas. Yes. So is there a way to when

922
00:45:53,940 --> 00:45:55,719
you go into if I'm

923
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,260
looking at it like a PDF like the minutes can I search the

924
00:45:59,260 --> 00:46:00,679
text? I can't

925
00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:03,920
I can't seem to find the link and I don't know if I'm not

926
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,320
searching a PDF.

927
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,550
You should be able to go to and it says find and then you

928
00:46:09,550 --> 00:46:10,519
can type in there.

929
00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:17,050
Yeah so that's kind of what I'm looking for. Like inside

930
00:46:17,050 --> 00:46:21,809
the minutes. I can't find the find but I don't know where I

931
00:46:21,809 --> 00:46:23,320
'm supposed to look.

932
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,440
Let's research that. Yeah I can send you some pointers and

933
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,320
things just like

934
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,239
Commissioner Dutta what's brought up some things that we

935
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:29,719
haven't really

936
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,329
thought about with the different software. The other thing

937
00:46:32,329 --> 00:46:33,960
that I what's very nice

938
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,730
in the Dropbox format we can see all the tiles and then we

939
00:46:37,730 --> 00:46:38,719
can go to one real

940
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,989
quick. Will we be able to do that here? You can do that

941
00:46:41,989 --> 00:46:42,719
from this one as well.

942
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,670
You can select whichever one you want to go to and it's

943
00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:47,039
going to take you to that

944
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:50,239
item and you can instantly open up the AIS and that's the

945
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,920
paper clips. Yes. Okay

946
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,889
but there's nothing. It's the entire line the entire

947
00:46:55,889 --> 00:46:59,840
paragraph. So like

948
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,289
Commissioner Bruegel brought up you can bring you can type

949
00:47:02,289 --> 00:47:03,519
notes in here nobody

950
00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:06,090
else will see your notes or comments that you want to put

951
00:47:06,090 --> 00:47:06,880
in here besides

952
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:12,070
yourself. You can save the notes. You can bookmark the

953
00:47:12,070 --> 00:47:13,880
items kind of like setting

954
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:18,179
it as a favorite and go back to it. You can toggle back and

955
00:47:18,179 --> 00:47:19,280
forth easier to

956
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,679
those items. And Athenia those the notes that we're typing

957
00:47:22,679 --> 00:47:24,159
will those then be

958
00:47:24,159 --> 00:47:31,250
accessible for public records requests? Yes. Yeah okay good

959
00:47:31,250 --> 00:47:31,760
.

960
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:42,639
Good or bad? At the bottom middle of the screen. The lower

961
00:47:42,639 --> 00:47:43,480
middle portion of the

962
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,980
screen it says notes so you could click on that and refer

963
00:47:45,980 --> 00:47:46,840
to any of the notes

964
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,530
that you've made and it'll pull all those up easily. The

965
00:47:50,530 --> 00:47:51,480
same thing with

966
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:56,639
there's a bookmarks tab down there and that is pretty much

967
00:47:56,639 --> 00:47:58,199
it. Other than

968
00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:01,769
figuring out which process works best for Dropbox and

969
00:48:01,769 --> 00:48:04,360
backup materials. Any

970
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,869
questions? Yeah how do I get back from that screen? And

971
00:48:06,869 --> 00:48:07,760
once you've logged in

972
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,159
you should not need to log in again. Okay. You can hold on

973
00:48:11,159 --> 00:48:12,119
to that if you want or I

974
00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:14,389
can email you each year to log in information but you

975
00:48:14,389 --> 00:48:15,360
shouldn't need to do

976
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:20,050
it each time. So one time and we're done okay? One time I

977
00:48:20,050 --> 00:48:21,280
mean if you get out of

978
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,559
this and once you close the iLegislate app you won't have

979
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:25,280
to you shouldn't have

980
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:30,650
to log back in when you go back in there. Commissioner H

981
00:48:30,650 --> 00:48:34,119
atchbett. Thank you.

982
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:40,170
Mr. Chair is this iLegislate app proprietary? Do I have to

983
00:48:40,170 --> 00:48:40,920
keep it only

984
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:47,849
on this iPad? Is it available? I will. For example if I'm

985
00:48:47,849 --> 00:48:51,519
on my PC can I get to it or?

986
00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:57,079
That's a licensing issue. In addition please keep in mind

987
00:48:57,079 --> 00:48:57,800
whatever you

988
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,599
receive as a packet and if there's an open records request

989
00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:02,519
you have to be aware

990
00:49:02,519 --> 00:49:04,920
of that too so you may want to keep it on. So we can double

991
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:05,760
check the licensing

992
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:18,400
issue for you. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I think before

993
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,440
we receive our update

994
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:26,280
on our travel demand model we have food so I think at this

995
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,280
time it'll be 550.

996
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,829
We'll take a break a five minute break at our work session

997
00:49:31,829 --> 00:49:33,079
to get food and

998
00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:37,079
prepare for the travel demand model.

999
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,780
Mr. Arora to go ahead and make the presentation. Thank you.

1000
00:49:53,780 --> 00:49:57,159
Good evening

1001
00:49:57,159 --> 00:50:03,210
commissioners. Now I had done this presentation previously

1002
00:50:03,210 --> 00:50:04,159
about two

1003
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:04,159
times. First time we brought you a little more detail on

1004
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:10,400
the computer model,

1005
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:10,400
different modeling runs we had done and the LOS levels in

1006
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:18,039
the streets. Last time

1007
00:50:18,039 --> 00:50:22,269
we brought information on the complete streets process,

1008
00:50:22,269 --> 00:50:23,400
context sensitive

1009
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,119
solutions which is really not a part of the mobility plan

1010
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:28,480
but at the request of

1011
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,989
the Commission I had brought that information. Today for

1012
00:50:30,989 --> 00:50:32,119
the benefit of the

1013
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:37,179
new members what I'm going to try and do is give you a good

1014
00:50:37,179 --> 00:50:39,239
overview of where we

1015
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,610
are going and why we need to have this project which is the

1016
00:50:43,610 --> 00:50:44,719
update with the

1017
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,119
mobility plan and as to why we are doing it at this time.

1018
00:50:48,119 --> 00:50:49,880
So with that we'll

1019
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:54,559
proceed on it. Why the update the mobility plan? You know

1020
00:50:54,559 --> 00:50:55,440
mobility plan is

1021
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,889
really the road network that we have in the city. All these

1022
00:50:58,889 --> 00:51:00,320
streets that we have

1023
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,559
is the primary arterials which are six lane highways,

1024
00:51:03,559 --> 00:51:05,239
secondary arterials which

1025
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,650
are four lane highways, then we have collector streets

1026
00:51:08,650 --> 00:51:09,960
which are in the city

1027
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,829
in the commercial areas. So those that's a network of

1028
00:51:14,829 --> 00:51:16,400
streets and that

1029
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:21,530
collectively is called a mobility plan. We do have one

1030
00:51:21,530 --> 00:51:22,639
right now there's a

1031
00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:26,539
distinct mobility plan which has been there. Currently it

1032
00:51:26,539 --> 00:51:27,280
is a little bit

1033
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,570
outdated, it's not been updated for some time and I'll show

1034
00:51:30,570 --> 00:51:32,440
you what is it that

1035
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,000
we already have approved that is not part of it right now

1036
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,400
and why we need to

1037
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:44,239
update it at this time. What we are in the process of right

1038
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,039
now is to implement

1039
00:51:46,039 --> 00:51:49,909
road impact fees in the city. We have impact fees for water

1040
00:51:49,909 --> 00:51:51,679
and wastewater and

1041
00:51:51,679 --> 00:51:56,210
we are moving towards road impact fees. We had a project

1042
00:51:56,210 --> 00:51:57,880
that was approved by

1043
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,920
the council last year for implementation of the road impact

1044
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,599
fees and for that

1045
00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:07,440
what I'm going to do is I'll acknowledge Jeff Whitaker. He

1046
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:08,639
is our project manager

1047
00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:13,079
with Kimley Horn. Kimley Horn is the company we selected to

1048
00:52:13,079 --> 00:52:14,800
do the study, do

1049
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:20,340
the calculations, to do the road impact fee implementation.

1050
00:52:20,340 --> 00:52:21,760
Road impact fees

1051
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,159
are essentially if a new development comes in, a new

1052
00:52:25,159 --> 00:52:26,719
project is proposed,

1053
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:31,969
we look at what is the impact of that on the street system.

1054
00:52:31,969 --> 00:52:33,800
So the impact that is

1055
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,670
caused by that new project, new development, there is

1056
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:38,920
assessment of some

1057
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,849
fees for the road improvement. That is what this would do.

1058
00:52:42,849 --> 00:52:43,519
So there's a

1059
00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:46,579
calculation, there's a methodology which we will come back

1060
00:52:46,579 --> 00:52:47,760
at you later on and

1061
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:52,409
since you are the capital improvement advisory committee as

1062
00:52:52,409 --> 00:52:52,920
part of the

1063
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,039
ordinance, so I'll be coming back at you later on for the

1064
00:52:56,039 --> 00:52:57,000
road impact fee

1065
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,949
calculations and we'll be showing that to you. Today we are

1066
00:52:59,949 --> 00:53:00,800
going to talk about

1067
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:06,360
the mobility plan. Mobility plan is a component because all

1068
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:06,719
of the

1069
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:11,369
calculations we do for the road impact fee, they are based

1070
00:53:11,369 --> 00:53:12,480
on the mobility plan.

1071
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:17,719
What streets we have to do capacity enhancement on. So any

1072
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:18,440
capacity

1073
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:23,440
enhancement we do, which is whether we put a new street, we

1074
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,340
add lanes to it, we

1075
00:53:25,340 --> 00:53:30,329
do intersection improvements, we add a signal, all those

1076
00:53:30,329 --> 00:53:31,599
are an addition of

1077
00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:37,239
capacity. So that mobility plan is the basis for all that.

1078
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,440
That is what we do to

1079
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:44,199
go in and then we do all the calculations of what would it

1080
00:53:44,199 --> 00:53:44,719
cost to

1081
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,119
build that street. So then when you determine that cost,

1082
00:53:48,119 --> 00:53:49,360
then you determine

1083
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,480
based on the impact what share a particular development has

1084
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:53,920
to pay

1085
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,480
towards that street. Okay and we'll come back at you on

1086
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,400
that later on. So as part

1087
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,829
of the mobility plan we needed to determine the current

1088
00:54:02,829 --> 00:54:03,579
capacity of the

1089
00:54:03,579 --> 00:54:07,480
existing streets. That's already used up. So if there's any

1090
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,139
excess capacity we

1091
00:54:09,139 --> 00:54:11,949
could then charge for that as part of the impact fee. A lot

1092
00:54:11,949 --> 00:54:13,000
of streets are

1093
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:17,230
actually under level of service E where you know we have

1094
00:54:17,230 --> 00:54:18,820
deficiency. So we

1095
00:54:18,820 --> 00:54:24,199
recognize that also as part of the calculation process.

1096
00:54:24,199 --> 00:54:27,280
Then also as part of

1097
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,099
the mobility plan to add approved streets which are already

1098
00:54:31,099 --> 00:54:32,000
approved for

1099
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:37,489
the MPCs, which is the master plan communities, which is

1100
00:54:37,489 --> 00:54:38,199
Hills of

1101
00:54:38,199 --> 00:54:41,389
Denton, which is north of loop 288, then Cole Ranch and

1102
00:54:41,389 --> 00:54:42,639
Hunter Ranch, which is the

1103
00:54:42,639 --> 00:54:47,289
southwest part of the city. Those are very large projects

1104
00:54:47,289 --> 00:54:48,440
generally in the

1105
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,889
range of 3,000 acres each that have already been approved

1106
00:54:51,889 --> 00:54:53,320
by the PNG and

1107
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,550
the council. Those roads that are already approved they are

1108
00:54:57,550 --> 00:54:58,360
currently not in the

1109
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,440
in this mobility plan that I had shown you earlier. So we

1110
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:02,719
needed to add those in

1111
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:08,019
there. And then what we wanted to do was do a built-out

1112
00:55:08,019 --> 00:55:10,159
condition model which is

1113
00:55:10,159 --> 00:55:13,679
okay we add all these streets then we have annex as you

1114
00:55:13,679 --> 00:55:15,880
know almost 10,000

1115
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:20,000
acres in the city. So we had to go in there and add streets

1116
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:20,800
for those areas

1117
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:27,139
and then run a model for fully developed city built out

1118
00:55:27,139 --> 00:55:29,280
condition what the

1119
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:34,440
traffic is and then determine what roads needed to be what.

1120
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,039
If a primary arterial,

1121
00:55:36,039 --> 00:55:40,320
secondary arterial also look at if a road did not have

1122
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:41,800
enough traffic based on

1123
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,690
the computer model that was done and I'll go into that then

1124
00:55:44,690 --> 00:55:45,840
we downgrade

1125
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,670
that road from a primary to a secondary arterial or from a

1126
00:55:48,670 --> 00:55:49,760
secondary down to a

1127
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,989
collector street and or vice versa we went from a collector

1128
00:55:53,989 --> 00:55:54,960
to a secondary or

1129
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,360
secondary to a primary but very few of those changes were

1130
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,559
there. And then there

1131
00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:04,340
was some realignment of some streets where those streets as

1132
00:56:04,340 --> 00:56:05,480
currently shown

1133
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,460
in the mobility plan we have would not work because we have

1134
00:56:09,460 --> 00:56:10,800
development that

1135
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,920
would be impacted so we had to realign some streets in

1136
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,800
there. So we use a

1137
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:23,559
computer model Transcat to the project we had approved for

1138
00:56:23,559 --> 00:56:24,679
Kimley Horn which

1139
00:56:24,679 --> 00:56:27,559
was impact free then we went back to the council because we

1140
00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:28,519
saw that there was

1141
00:56:28,519 --> 00:56:31,329
deficiency in the mobility plan because we could not really

1142
00:56:31,329 --> 00:56:32,119
use it the way it

1143
00:56:32,119 --> 00:56:36,860
was. So to get this mobility plan really to the state of

1144
00:56:36,860 --> 00:56:38,360
the art pretty much

1145
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:43,400
everybody in any any city of some size is going towards a

1146
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:44,960
computer model which

1147
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:51,300
is basically a comprehensive look see and determine the

1148
00:56:51,300 --> 00:56:53,840
traffic generation on

1149
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,820
the streets calibrate the model for the existing condition

1150
00:56:57,820 --> 00:56:59,079
and then project it

1151
00:56:59,079 --> 00:57:05,719
for the future condition for the built out condition. So we

1152
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,519
determined the

1153
00:57:08,519 --> 00:57:11,110
carrying capacity of the existing road matter I'll show you

1154
00:57:11,110 --> 00:57:11,760
how we went about

1155
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:16,250
it real real quick and then this model was then used to for

1156
00:57:16,250 --> 00:57:16,920
the built out

1157
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:22,820
condition traffic volumes. As you will see right here we

1158
00:57:22,820 --> 00:57:24,800
actually went out and

1159
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:29,449
identified 111 different locations in the city all these

1160
00:57:29,449 --> 00:57:31,480
dots represent where

1161
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:36,409
traffic data was collected. So this became the basis to

1162
00:57:36,409 --> 00:57:38,159
determine what is

1163
00:57:38,159 --> 00:57:42,010
happening under the existing or current conditions in the

1164
00:57:42,010 --> 00:57:44,239
city entire city. So

1165
00:57:44,239 --> 00:57:48,610
the model was then developed for the existing condition and

1166
00:57:48,610 --> 00:57:49,920
it was calibrated

1167
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,150
to match the traffic volume shown through this collected

1168
00:57:54,150 --> 00:57:55,320
data. So once we

1169
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:59,969
calibrated that model then that model wasn't ready to do

1170
00:57:59,969 --> 00:58:01,000
the projections for

1171
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,789
the future conditions and how did we do the future

1172
00:58:04,789 --> 00:58:08,360
condition projection? We use

1173
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:13,920
the comp plan amendment approved future land use plan. This

1174
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,320
land use plan using

1175
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,349
this land use plan and more detail the consultant actually

1176
00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:20,320
fleshed this out a

1177
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,150
lot more to look at what development is going to happen in

1178
00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:25,519
the city based on all

1179
00:58:25,519 --> 00:58:29,349
of this land use that we are showing here came out with the

1180
00:58:29,349 --> 00:58:31,199
traffic that will

1181
00:58:31,199 --> 00:58:34,900
be generated from all these land users and we will come

1182
00:58:34,900 --> 00:58:36,119
back and show you a

1183
00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:39,000
little more detail when we do the road impact fee

1184
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,639
information. So using that

1185
00:58:41,639 --> 00:58:44,940
data they came out with traffic generation from all of

1186
00:58:44,940 --> 00:58:46,280
these areas and then

1187
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,449
looked at the streets where this traffic will go what

1188
00:58:49,449 --> 00:58:50,920
direction it will go and

1189
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:55,570
then came out with the classification of the streets. So if

1190
00:58:55,570 --> 00:58:57,800
the road showed that

1191
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:03,289
it had more traffic than a secondary arterial then that

1192
00:59:03,289 --> 00:59:04,559
road was classified as

1193
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:07,820
a primary. If it showed that it was not justified as a

1194
00:59:07,820 --> 00:59:09,519
primary arterial it was

1195
00:59:09,519 --> 00:59:12,110
classified as a secondary arterial but majority of the

1196
00:59:12,110 --> 00:59:13,199
roads stayed the same

1197
00:59:13,199 --> 00:59:16,730
there were just a few changes a couple of changes only on

1198
00:59:16,730 --> 00:59:22,480
the classification. So

1199
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,210
this shows the master plan communities and here's the hills

1200
00:59:26,210 --> 00:59:27,559
of Den and you can

1201
00:59:27,559 --> 00:59:31,829
see these are the roads which are already approved as part

1202
00:59:31,829 --> 00:59:32,599
of the MPC

1203
00:59:32,599 --> 00:59:37,599
process by the PNG and the council. They are currently not

1204
00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:39,159
in the mobility plan

1205
00:59:39,159 --> 00:59:42,579
as we have at this time. Same thing for coal ranch right

1206
00:59:42,579 --> 00:59:44,320
here and hunter ranch.

1207
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:50,719
So all of these then we added into the mobility plan. Then

1208
00:59:50,719 --> 00:59:52,880
we added the new

1209
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,719
areas as you can see all of these areas got added annexed

1210
00:59:55,719 --> 00:59:57,519
into the city. So we

1211
00:59:57,519 --> 01:00:01,840
went in and we added street network in all these areas here

1212
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,159
as you can see in

1213
01:00:03,159 --> 01:00:05,690
this purple color right here and then this is another

1214
01:00:05,690 --> 01:00:07,760
connectivity we put in.

1215
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:12,239
So these are the new streets that we have added to the

1216
01:00:12,239 --> 01:00:14,400
existing mobility plan.

1217
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:21,230
So this is what we will call the built-out condition. One

1218
01:00:21,230 --> 01:00:24,079
of the benefits

1219
01:00:24,079 --> 01:00:28,320
that we have of the road impact fee process is that this is

1220
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,000
not set in stone.

1221
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,119
Every five years once we adopt the road impact fees the

1222
01:00:34,119 --> 01:00:36,000
state law requires that

1223
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,400
at the most every five years we have to come back and we

1224
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,079
have to redo the model.

1225
01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:45,630
We have to look at all these streets again and then we can

1226
01:00:45,630 --> 01:00:46,559
look at change

1227
01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:49,719
make some changes at that time every five years or less we

1228
01:00:49,719 --> 01:00:50,599
can do it in three

1229
01:00:50,599 --> 01:00:54,860
years or two years but no more than five years. So what you

1230
01:00:54,860 --> 01:00:57,400
see here is a plan at

1231
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:02,199
this time. Every five years when we come back there may be

1232
01:01:02,199 --> 01:01:03,280
some changes based on

1233
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,059
they will we will go back we will collect the traffic data

1234
01:01:07,059 --> 01:01:07,840
again through

1235
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,480
the entire city. We will calibrate the model again and then

1236
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:12,039
we will run it

1237
01:01:12,039 --> 01:01:14,480
based on the land use. If there's a change in the land use

1238
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:15,719
that will have

1239
01:01:15,719 --> 01:01:18,960
been adopted they will be updated and then we will redo the

1240
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:19,880
model again.

1241
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:29,280
Alright. So this is the proposed mobility plan. We do have

1242
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:30,519
form boards and if you

1243
01:01:30,519 --> 01:01:34,309
would like to come back later or now even so we want to see

1244
01:01:34,309 --> 01:01:35,320
it on a piece of

1245
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:39,269
paper we have the same thing. This shows all the all of the

1246
01:01:39,269 --> 01:01:40,280
new streets that I

1247
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,920
just showed you. So it adds the hills of Dunn, the coal

1248
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,199
ranch and the hunter ranch

1249
01:01:45,199 --> 01:01:48,610
and then some of these streets that we added in these areas

1250
01:01:48,610 --> 01:01:49,599
and some in this

1251
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:54,639
area right here. And then we ran the model on this because

1252
01:01:54,639 --> 01:01:55,519
we had a calibrated

1253
01:01:55,519 --> 01:01:59,519
model we ran the model on this proposed mobility plan and

1254
01:01:59,519 --> 01:02:00,800
as you can see the

1255
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:05,239
green all the green streets this in green color it is a

1256
01:02:05,239 --> 01:02:06,599
acceptable level of

1257
01:02:06,599 --> 01:02:11,239
service A or B and pretty much most of the city based on

1258
01:02:11,239 --> 01:02:12,440
the computer model

1259
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,329
based on the traffic generation based on the built out

1260
01:02:15,329 --> 01:02:16,639
condition with the land

1261
01:02:16,639 --> 01:02:21,010
use plan that we have accepted it shows that if we go with

1262
01:02:21,010 --> 01:02:22,679
this plan we are

1263
01:02:22,679 --> 01:02:25,320
going to have a very good traffic movement in the entire

1264
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:26,400
city. There are

1265
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:31,340
some areas where because of the difficulty of getting right

1266
01:02:31,340 --> 01:02:31,800
away

1267
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,199
additional right away there is no way to expand the road

1268
01:02:35,199 --> 01:02:36,760
then those other areas

1269
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,639
you can see Bell in some way a little bit of mingo in this

1270
01:02:40,639 --> 01:02:42,639
area 380 part of

1271
01:02:42,639 --> 01:02:47,659
that some of that will be text dot 35 same thing when text

1272
01:02:47,659 --> 01:02:48,960
art improves it it

1273
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:53,190
will turn into green over time as they as they work on it.

1274
01:02:53,190 --> 01:02:54,760
Same thing for 35W

1275
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,880
but majority of the street in the city have a level of

1276
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,360
service A or B or C or D

1277
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:05,239
based on the computer model that has been put together. I

1278
01:03:05,239 --> 01:03:06,000
do want to mention

1279
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:10,039
that Kimley-Horn currently in the Metroplex they are the

1280
01:03:10,039 --> 01:03:11,000
premier company

1281
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,590
they are doing majority of the road impact fees in the

1282
01:03:14,590 --> 01:03:16,679
Metroplex cities as

1283
01:03:16,679 --> 01:03:20,800
well as the mobility plants and also in Texas. So we were

1284
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,000
able to hire them so I

1285
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,940
was pretty happy with that. It was a good good effort good

1286
01:03:26,940 --> 01:03:28,800
service from them and

1287
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,780
we had a team from the city which where we had the

1288
01:03:31,780 --> 01:03:33,800
engineering traffic engineer

1289
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,769
our traffic operations, street department, planning

1290
01:03:37,769 --> 01:03:40,199
department. We all were part of

1291
01:03:40,199 --> 01:03:43,599
the team that reviewed the work as we have been doing it

1292
01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:44,840
since last year and

1293
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:49,059
we gave them actually we worked with them on quadrant by

1294
01:03:49,059 --> 01:03:50,360
quadrant all the

1295
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,440
streets we looked at all the connectivity the staff looked

1296
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:53,800
at all the

1297
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:58,449
connectivity they drove in the entire city our staff has

1298
01:03:58,449 --> 01:03:59,000
driven the city

1299
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,639
looked at these roads and this is where we are right now

1300
01:04:02,639 --> 01:04:03,519
based on all of that

1301
01:04:03,519 --> 01:04:09,559
information. What I'm gonna do is there were a couple of

1302
01:04:09,559 --> 01:04:10,760
questions last

1303
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:14,550
presentation I'll have Jeff come over and go over the Clear

1304
01:04:14,550 --> 01:04:16,679
Creek area and the

1305
01:04:16,679 --> 01:04:23,539
connection that went on the on the dam so Jeff come on over

1306
01:04:23,539 --> 01:04:25,199
. We received a

1307
01:04:25,199 --> 01:04:28,050
couple comments and we try to address most of them and one

1308
01:04:28,050 --> 01:04:28,920
of the comments

1309
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,610
that we received was on the Clear Creek Nature Preserve and

1310
01:04:31,610 --> 01:04:32,719
it was honestly that

1311
01:04:32,719 --> 01:04:35,989
we hadn't overlaid exactly the plan we went back and overla

1312
01:04:35,989 --> 01:04:36,679
id it and we

1313
01:04:36,679 --> 01:04:39,380
adjusted all the alignments to match so that it wouldn't

1314
01:04:39,380 --> 01:04:40,519
interfere with any of

1315
01:04:40,519 --> 01:04:43,920
the trails etc so we went back and coordinated that on that

1316
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:44,239
one of the

1317
01:04:44,239 --> 01:04:47,250
things that PS mentioned is there's a required update every

1318
01:04:47,250 --> 01:04:48,039
five years but

1319
01:04:48,039 --> 01:04:51,000
also this is a plan so as development happens they may put

1320
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:51,920
their building

1321
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,190
someplace and it may require to move slightly so these

1322
01:04:54,190 --> 01:04:55,559
lines they're not a

1323
01:04:55,559 --> 01:04:58,010
hundred percent alignment typical rule of thumb is you can

1324
01:04:58,010 --> 01:04:58,719
move one of these

1325
01:04:58,719 --> 01:05:00,920
roads within I don't know what Jordan says but within a

1326
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:01,719
thousand feet is a

1327
01:05:01,719 --> 01:05:04,360
typical rule of thumb so but we got this one pretty

1328
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:05,679
accurate another question was

1329
01:05:05,679 --> 01:05:08,590
about post-oak going through the the reserve right here and

1330
01:05:08,590 --> 01:05:09,800
so we missed the

1331
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,800
floodplain already but the reserve we didn't have the quite

1332
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:12,739
boundaries right so

1333
01:05:12,739 --> 01:05:15,800
we realigned post oak coming up through to make sure that

1334
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:16,679
we were out of the

1335
01:05:16,679 --> 01:05:20,940
floodplain and out of the reserve another question was a we

1336
01:05:20,940 --> 01:05:22,360
had a road that kind

1337
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,760
of went up the dam and so we just removed that we looked at

1338
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:25,599
the feasibility on

1339
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:28,630
that and we removed that it was going to be an expensive

1340
01:05:28,630 --> 01:05:29,880
project that likely

1341
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,570
never get done anyway so we just went ahead and removed

1342
01:05:32,570 --> 01:05:35,480
that so those are the

1343
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,940
three major alignment comments that we received and we

1344
01:05:37,940 --> 01:05:39,079
received a couple other

1345
01:05:39,079 --> 01:05:40,920
comments I think we responded to but those are the ones

1346
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:41,519
that we updated on

1347
01:05:41,519 --> 01:05:48,250
the previous plan that you all seen so far your

1348
01:05:48,250 --> 01:05:51,079
identification on this we've

1349
01:05:51,079 --> 01:05:55,440
been working on it for some time mobility plan is one of

1350
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:56,760
the foundations

1351
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,880
of the road impact fees so I had taken it to the mobility

1352
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,599
committee in December

1353
01:06:02,599 --> 01:06:07,250
and January the second meeting in January they gave a

1354
01:06:07,250 --> 01:06:08,000
recommendation for

1355
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:12,119
approval by the council I had taken to the council in March

1356
01:06:12,119 --> 01:06:13,599
and council

1357
01:06:13,599 --> 01:06:16,690
recommended that we should go ahead and move towards

1358
01:06:16,690 --> 01:06:18,239
approval of the mobility

1359
01:06:18,239 --> 01:06:21,860
plan as presented there have been some refinements thanks

1360
01:06:21,860 --> 01:06:23,440
to your diligence

1361
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:28,199
that we have you know added to to the mobility plan here

1362
01:06:28,199 --> 01:06:29,239
the process that it

1363
01:06:29,239 --> 01:06:35,119
has to go through is and we have vetted that with our legal

1364
01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:36,599
department that it

1365
01:06:36,599 --> 01:06:40,389
has to go through a public hearing process one at the PNG

1366
01:06:40,389 --> 01:06:41,280
and then the

1367
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,909
second will be at the council so in the public hearing

1368
01:06:44,909 --> 01:06:46,239
process we will have a

1369
01:06:46,239 --> 01:06:49,199
recommendation from the planning and zoning Commission to

1370
01:06:49,199 --> 01:06:50,079
move forward and

1371
01:06:50,079 --> 01:06:56,949
take it to the council so today my intent is to get a kind

1372
01:06:56,949 --> 01:06:58,599
of a nod from

1373
01:06:58,599 --> 01:07:01,679
you that yes you have we are ready to move forward and do a

1374
01:07:01,679 --> 01:07:02,599
public hearing at

1375
01:07:02,599 --> 01:07:06,300
the planning and zoning Commission on this I do want to

1376
01:07:06,300 --> 01:07:07,679
point out there are

1377
01:07:07,679 --> 01:07:11,619
some question this mobility plan is really a much higher

1378
01:07:11,619 --> 01:07:13,119
level it does not

1379
01:07:13,119 --> 01:07:19,159
get into the minutiae of details of driveways median

1380
01:07:19,159 --> 01:07:20,840
openings that is not

1381
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:24,280
the intent of the mobility plan

1382
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:37,159
we have any questions who's first Commissioner Briggle yes

1383
01:07:37,159 --> 01:07:37,559
can you please

1384
01:07:37,559 --> 01:07:41,949
go back to the slide where you did the traffic counts I

1385
01:07:41,949 --> 01:07:42,440
just had a question

1386
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,880
about how that data was collected

1387
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:52,289
I think you passed it that one thank you I'm curious what

1388
01:07:52,289 --> 01:07:53,159
time of year did you do

1389
01:07:53,159 --> 01:07:55,730
this did you do this did you do those traffic counts when

1390
01:07:55,730 --> 01:07:56,840
the students were

1391
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,039
here you did okay good yes we made sure that the school was

1392
01:08:00,039 --> 01:08:00,519
in session

1393
01:08:00,519 --> 01:08:02,360
excellent yeah because I was gonna say the traffic counts

1394
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:03,000
might be higher in

1395
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,639
the core of the city yes the other thing too is is last

1396
01:08:06,639 --> 01:08:09,559
year yes and my other

1397
01:08:09,559 --> 01:08:12,969
question too is did you did you only count cars or did you

1398
01:08:12,969 --> 01:08:13,719
also count

1399
01:08:13,719 --> 01:08:16,560
pedestrians and bicyclists and other modes of

1400
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,359
transportation if you want to

1401
01:08:18,359 --> 01:08:22,079
answer them come over here

1402
01:08:24,159 --> 01:08:26,869
so these accounts were done with tubes you probably drove

1403
01:08:26,869 --> 01:08:28,319
an oven before if

1404
01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:31,220
you're familiar with those so they they do sometimes pick

1405
01:08:31,220 --> 01:08:32,319
up bicycles with the

1406
01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:35,720
weight is not lifted it has hit it right so mainly vehicles

1407
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:36,680
the way to count

1408
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,800
pedestrians there's not a good way to count pedestrians and

1409
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:39,560
bicycles actually

1410
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,090
having a human person out there sitting and counting so

1411
01:08:42,090 --> 01:08:43,039
these were focused

1412
01:08:43,039 --> 01:08:46,270
primarily on vehicles but they classified them so some we

1413
01:08:46,270 --> 01:08:46,720
do have

1414
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:46,720
information on some motorcycles or heavy bikes okay and I

1415
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:52,920
believe the bicycle

1416
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:56,609
coordinator for the city is currently working on getting

1417
01:08:56,609 --> 01:08:58,199
bike counts but I the

1418
01:08:58,199 --> 01:09:02,239
next time we revisit this in the next three to five years I

1419
01:09:02,239 --> 01:09:03,439
'd like for there to

1420
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:07,560
be some more data since there's not it's not only cars that

1421
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:08,760
use our roads so I'd

1422
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,050
like the next time this comes around to include data of

1423
01:09:12,050 --> 01:09:13,439
other road users so that

1424
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,380
when we're looking at you know if it's a primary arterially

1425
01:09:16,380 --> 01:09:17,560
yes we're gonna want

1426
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,970
to move cars through that quickly but if there's a lot of

1427
01:09:20,970 --> 01:09:22,319
humans like walking

1428
01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:25,069
around I want to make sure that we're building out the

1429
01:09:25,069 --> 01:09:26,199
roads for more as you

1430
01:09:26,199 --> 01:09:28,890
said at the beginning more of a complete streetscape right

1431
01:09:28,890 --> 01:09:29,960
if you recall it on

1432
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,069
the last presentation last time I did the presentation so

1433
01:09:33,069 --> 01:09:34,399
the cross-sections

1434
01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:39,210
we shared with you it did show that the real estate that

1435
01:09:39,210 --> 01:09:40,800
will be there which is

1436
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:45,640
the right away from end to end is available to accommodate

1437
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,319
whatever the

1438
01:09:47,319 --> 01:09:53,069
surgeons want so that that will be there the the cost that

1439
01:09:53,069 --> 01:09:54,720
we will calculate for

1440
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,960
the road impact fee will allow for the construction for

1441
01:09:57,960 --> 01:09:59,800
bike lanes or wider

1442
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:07,350
sidewalks which could be a bike lane cum pedestrian pathway

1443
01:10:07,350 --> 01:10:08,600
so the cost will

1444
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,600
allow for that. Commissioner Tyler do you have a question?

1445
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,399
Commissioner Tyler. Thank you

1446
01:10:13,399 --> 01:10:20,279
Chair. A couple of questions first I think this might fall

1447
01:10:20,279 --> 01:10:20,960
outside of the

1448
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,489
purview of planning and zoning but just for a general

1449
01:10:23,489 --> 01:10:25,399
overview so we aren't

1450
01:10:25,399 --> 01:10:28,079
going to approve how streets get funded because City

1451
01:10:28,079 --> 01:10:29,359
Council does that not us

1452
01:10:29,359 --> 01:10:33,590
but I wanted to just validate my assumptions that a

1453
01:10:33,590 --> 01:10:35,159
developer for example

1454
01:10:35,159 --> 01:10:38,399
going in up by the lake there would still do their normal

1455
01:10:38,399 --> 01:10:40,279
exaction perhaps

1456
01:10:40,279 --> 01:10:44,289
for the street that runs nearby them but then they would

1457
01:10:44,289 --> 01:10:45,680
also pay you know they

1458
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:50,630
they're determined to put 5,000 trips a day on some road

1459
01:10:50,630 --> 01:10:51,920
and they would pay some

1460
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,960
percentage then like that's that's going to be a road fee

1461
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:56,279
of 10% of the build out

1462
01:10:56,279 --> 01:10:59,960
of that road. We have a very good question you know if you

1463
01:10:59,960 --> 01:11:02,039
would have and

1464
01:11:02,039 --> 01:11:05,050
if you stay with me on this when we come back for the road

1465
01:11:05,050 --> 01:11:06,760
impact fees we will

1466
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,319
you know go through the little more detailed discussion on

1467
01:11:09,319 --> 01:11:10,319
it with you as to how

1468
01:11:10,319 --> 01:11:14,550
you know we perceive somebody going out in the green space

1469
01:11:14,550 --> 01:11:16,119
way out there how

1470
01:11:16,119 --> 01:11:20,600
they will be impacted with this road impact fee process

1471
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,039
compared to somebody

1472
01:11:22,039 --> 01:11:25,329
who is more in within the town area so there'll be a little

1473
01:11:25,329 --> 01:11:25,680
different

1474
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:30,909
differentiation in that. And I can hold my second question.

1475
01:11:30,909 --> 01:11:35,279
Did you have a question? Commissioner Duttewicz.

1476
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:41,020
Does mobility plan take into consideration state or county

1477
01:11:41,020 --> 01:11:41,760
roads?

1478
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:45,989
Repeat that. Does mobility plan does not take into

1479
01:11:45,989 --> 01:11:50,279
consideration county or state owned roads correct?

1480
01:11:50,279 --> 01:11:52,850
It does you know it looks at the traffic because all those

1481
01:11:52,850 --> 01:11:54,039
roads are part of the

1482
01:11:54,039 --> 01:11:56,859
primary or secondary arterial. We have a lot of textile

1483
01:11:56,859 --> 01:11:58,479
roads in the city they are

1484
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,319
part of the mobility plan so they are either a primary

1485
01:12:01,319 --> 01:12:02,479
arterial or a secondary

1486
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:08,060
arterial. So we do account for the traffic on that as part

1487
01:12:08,060 --> 01:12:09,560
of the computer model.

1488
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:13,680
Yes sir. But majority of the work or the expenditure on

1489
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,640
those is by the state. We

1490
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:20,130
have made allowance of in our calculations of the road

1491
01:12:20,130 --> 01:12:22,279
impact fee 10%

1492
01:12:22,279 --> 01:12:31,039
20% sorry 20% allowance for city wanted improvements if you

1493
01:12:31,039 --> 01:12:32,159
will.

1494
01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:36,399
For those roads. So we are actually keeping 20% of the cost

1495
01:12:36,399 --> 01:12:37,680
share that we

1496
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:42,050
calculate if this road will cost this much per mile to do

1497
01:12:42,050 --> 01:12:43,319
so whatever that

1498
01:12:43,319 --> 01:12:46,399
cost is 20% of the cost we're allocating in the road impact

1499
01:12:46,399 --> 01:12:47,600
fee process.

1500
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:51,220
Okay so in the mobility plan we're going to be looking at

1501
01:12:51,220 --> 01:12:53,439
new roads and existing roads

1502
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:57,670
that need either expansion or some rework. Yes sir. How do

1503
01:12:57,670 --> 01:12:58,840
you identify those

1504
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:07,430
in here in the plan? Well we have actually you know

1505
01:13:07,430 --> 01:13:10,359
detailed sheets that

1506
01:13:10,359 --> 01:13:15,800
show each street and a cost calculation for that. And when

1507
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:16,359
we bring the road

1508
01:13:16,359 --> 01:13:19,020
impact fee process for you you will be able to see it in

1509
01:13:19,020 --> 01:13:20,640
the study that there

1510
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,680
is a cost calculation for each and every street that is in

1511
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:24,920
the mobility plan. But

1512
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,939
is it color-coded somehow some way? Well you will see that

1513
01:13:28,939 --> 01:13:29,680
will be by the by the

1514
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,920
each service area. We have five service areas defined in

1515
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:34,840
the mobility in the

1516
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:38,239
road impact fee process and by service area we will show

1517
01:13:38,239 --> 01:13:39,279
you all the roads

1518
01:13:39,279 --> 01:13:42,680
which are part of that service area and then there is a

1519
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,239
detailed calculation

1520
01:13:44,239 --> 01:13:49,739
sheet by sheet one sheet for every road that we have actual

1521
01:13:49,739 --> 01:13:50,600
cost calculation.

1522
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:55,569
What is the total cost for that improvement? Following up

1523
01:13:55,569 --> 01:13:56,880
again so when

1524
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:02,039
we vote on something what are we voting on? The impact fee

1525
01:14:02,039 --> 01:14:02,880
issue or a

1526
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,069
relationship for the impact fees or is it on where they're

1527
01:14:06,069 --> 01:14:07,239
gonna put a road or

1528
01:14:07,239 --> 01:14:11,069
where they're going to do some remodeling or redoing

1529
01:14:11,069 --> 01:14:13,199
something? This is

1530
01:14:13,199 --> 01:14:16,789
only a network. This is mobility planning a road network.

1531
01:14:16,789 --> 01:14:17,840
That is what we'll be

1532
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:21,239
voting on. This is not the road impact fees. Okay it's the

1533
01:14:21,239 --> 01:14:22,520
network. Yes sir.

1534
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,550
It's the road network. That's your general projects for

1535
01:14:25,550 --> 01:14:26,680
mobility purposes

1536
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,970
those go in front of P&Z and I just want to clarify that

1537
01:14:29,970 --> 01:14:32,500
the impact fees when he

1538
01:14:32,500 --> 01:14:36,369
says you he means the P&Z sitting in the the official

1539
01:14:36,369 --> 01:14:37,539
capacity of the Capital

1540
01:14:37,539 --> 01:14:42,649
Improvements Advisory Committee not as the P&Z body and as

1541
01:14:42,649 --> 01:14:45,159
that committee the

1542
01:14:45,159 --> 01:14:51,760
CIE AC I think is the right acronym will actually have the

1543
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:52,760
responsibility of

1544
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,899
looking at the land use assumptions and the capital

1545
01:14:55,899 --> 01:14:57,359
improvements plan and

1546
01:14:57,359 --> 01:15:00,079
looking at the fees in particular as it relates to those

1547
01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:01,319
things and there will be

1548
01:15:01,319 --> 01:15:04,640
two required public hearings for that so those will that's

1549
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,039
a completely separate

1550
01:15:06,039 --> 01:15:09,439
issue from the mobility plan that's coming before P&Z. That

1551
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:10,079
's more of a

1552
01:15:10,079 --> 01:15:14,109
general network of roadways. So again I'm questioning what

1553
01:15:14,109 --> 01:15:16,119
's back what are we approving?

1554
01:15:16,119 --> 01:15:19,680
Amendments to the actual mobility plan which could include

1555
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:20,960
additional streets

1556
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:24,390
it could include additional expansions depending on what he

1557
01:15:24,390 --> 01:15:26,279
brings forward.

1558
01:15:26,279 --> 01:15:31,159
A street map okay. Has anyone seen a street map? Just just

1559
01:15:31,159 --> 01:15:32,359
here okay can I get

1560
01:15:32,359 --> 01:15:37,189
or can we get one of those? Sure absolutely. Because I

1561
01:15:37,189 --> 01:15:38,039
think what happened

1562
01:15:38,039 --> 01:15:41,670
with when Commissioner Bentley was here he was able to

1563
01:15:41,670 --> 01:15:43,199
drill down and see that

1564
01:15:43,199 --> 01:15:46,869
that road went into a dam and I think what we need to do is

1565
01:15:46,869 --> 01:15:48,159
all look at again

1566
01:15:48,159 --> 01:15:52,180
those in more detail he was very anal about getting into

1567
01:15:52,180 --> 01:15:54,159
details and and I

1568
01:15:54,159 --> 01:15:57,189
haven't seen the plan and been able to get to it and trying

1569
01:15:57,189 --> 01:15:58,239
to do it on.

1570
01:15:58,239 --> 01:16:01,329
We did provide you in the last two presentations in the

1571
01:16:01,329 --> 01:16:03,680
PowerPoint that

1572
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:07,989
information was available. Right. Anything else we're

1573
01:16:07,989 --> 01:16:09,600
needing to get down to

1574
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,529
the point of seeing something so we can get into it. I'll

1575
01:16:12,529 --> 01:16:13,439
be happy to provide

1576
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,159
you a hard copy. Thank you. Maybe you might want to just

1577
01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:17,479
get with PS and he can go

1578
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,199
through that. We're gonna any other very quick questions we

1579
01:16:20,199 --> 01:16:21,039
're gonna wrap up and

1580
01:16:21,039 --> 01:16:26,369
get ready for our 630. You had a follow-up? Commissioner B

1581
01:16:26,369 --> 01:16:29,640
ribble. I just want to be clear so are you seeking direction

1582
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:31,520
from us tonight to just continue to move forward with this?

1583
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:35,479
To move forward to you know get a public hearing

1584
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:36,800
established and then have a

1585
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:41,039
public hearing. Okay. So you looking for an action for us

1586
01:16:41,039 --> 01:16:42,720
tonight or just a nod to go

1587
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,859
ahead and move that you're not looking for something from

1588
01:16:45,859 --> 01:16:47,439
us here at this point?

1589
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:51,369
Basically I'm looking for a nod that yes you are you know

1590
01:16:51,369 --> 01:16:53,039
ready to move forward

1591
01:16:53,039 --> 01:16:55,750
towards a public hearing. That's what I'm looking for. We

1592
01:16:55,750 --> 01:16:57,159
have a consensus that we're ready to

1593
01:16:57,159 --> 01:17:02,909
to move forward. I'm sorry. Commissioner Beck. Thank you.

1594
01:17:02,909 --> 01:17:03,880
So this is not something

1595
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,039
we're actually using now we're considering using is that

1596
01:17:06,039 --> 01:17:07,000
correct? Sir.

1597
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:10,100
This is not something we're actually using now it's we're

1598
01:17:10,100 --> 01:17:11,199
considering using

1599
01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:15,869
this mobility plan right? Yes sir. Okay. To clarify there

1600
01:17:15,869 --> 01:17:17,319
currently is a mobility

1601
01:17:17,319 --> 01:17:22,270
plan it would just be amended and he's looking for your

1602
01:17:22,270 --> 01:17:23,680
sort of confirmation

1603
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:27,909
that you're okay with the amendments proposed. Okay. Is

1604
01:17:27,909 --> 01:17:28,720
that fair? Yeah you will have a

1605
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,039
public hearing you know at that time you know we will go

1606
01:17:31,039 --> 01:17:32,359
through there so it'll

1607
01:17:32,359 --> 01:17:36,770
be noticed anybody from the city can come in and look at

1608
01:17:36,770 --> 01:17:37,920
what we are proposing

1609
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,899
it'll be posted out we'll have copies available people can

1610
01:17:40,899 --> 01:17:41,760
come and see all

1611
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,840
that so anybody in the city who is impacted they can come

1612
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:45,600
in and I'll

1613
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,869
discuss it in the public hearing process. Just one real

1614
01:17:47,869 --> 01:17:48,880
quick question it's going

1615
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:54,609
to be a lengthy response we can get to it later but how

1616
01:17:54,609 --> 01:17:55,920
reliable are these

1617
01:17:55,920 --> 01:18:01,680
models? Sir. How reliable are these models? It's a fairly

1618
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,359
robust model. Transcat is a

1619
01:18:03,359 --> 01:18:09,119
very widely used model. Okay. 80% 90% effective. You want

1620
01:18:09,119 --> 01:18:11,840
to talk about it a little more?

1621
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,880
The Federal Highway has come out with a way to calibrate

1622
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,159
the model and so we

1623
01:18:18,159 --> 01:18:20,659
base everything on that existing calibration the existing

1624
01:18:20,659 --> 01:18:21,239
counts and we

1625
01:18:21,239 --> 01:18:23,680
met all the Federal Highway requirements and so we're

1626
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:24,960
projecting and they end up

1627
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,960
being pretty accurate but you can't whether or not it's

1628
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:29,119
made to be flexible

1629
01:18:29,119 --> 01:18:31,189
so we divide up the city in a whole bunch of zones and we

1630
01:18:31,189 --> 01:18:32,000
're based on your

1631
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,170
future land use plan so what makes it not as reliable I'm

1632
01:18:35,170 --> 01:18:36,239
not it's reliable

1633
01:18:36,239 --> 01:18:38,720
it's a new developer proposes something different than we

1634
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:39,680
assumed in the model

1635
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,189
so that's what the changes are. If everything happened the

1636
01:18:42,189 --> 01:18:42,399
way our

1637
01:18:42,399 --> 01:18:45,039
crystal ball said or the way your comp plan said the maps

1638
01:18:45,039 --> 01:18:45,880
very reliable the

1639
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:47,779
models are very reliable so based on the current

1640
01:18:47,779 --> 01:18:50,760
information there within it you

1641
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,439
know it's within a 10% on your big roads it gets down about

1642
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:54,680
25% on your smaller

1643
01:18:54,680 --> 01:19:00,609
roads because it's a little bit less falling. Thank you.

1644
01:19:00,609 --> 01:19:04,880
That's a good question. Okay.

1645
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:09,880
It is 629 and we're going to close our work session and

1646
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:11,800
reconvene in council

1647
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,199
chambers.

1648
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:18,920
you

1649
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,939
you

1650
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,960
, you

1651
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:46,640
good evening and welcome to the planning and zoning meeting

1652
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:53,079
on September the 16th

1653
01:20:53,079 --> 01:20:56,810
we have a what this meeting has been duly posted and we

1654
01:20:56,810 --> 01:20:58,359
have a forum present

1655
01:20:58,359 --> 01:21:01,050
and we would like to go ahead and open our meeting with the

1656
01:21:01,050 --> 01:21:02,039
pledge to the flag

1657
01:21:02,039 --> 01:21:05,039
and the Texas flag.

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01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,880
[Pledge of Allegiance]

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01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:44,350
The first item I want to address this evening is due to a

1660
01:21:44,350 --> 01:21:46,000
technicality on a

1661
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,130
switch of some software from a previous format that we've

1662
01:21:49,130 --> 01:21:50,359
had we're going to

1663
01:21:50,359 --> 01:21:54,590
push our actual chair and vice chair elections that we had

1664
01:21:54,590 --> 01:21:55,920
our next meeting

1665
01:21:55,920 --> 01:22:00,380
to our next P&Z meeting for those to be ratified and that

1666
01:22:00,380 --> 01:22:02,319
will move us then to

1667
01:22:02,319 --> 01:22:08,390
our minutes and the first minutes that we're going to take

1668
01:22:08,390 --> 01:22:10,119
a look at will be

1669
01:22:10,119 --> 01:22:15,159
the August 19th minutes.

1670
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,199
Commissioner Taylor. Move approval of the August 19th

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01:22:22,199 --> 01:22:24,180
minutes. Commissioner

1672
01:22:24,180 --> 01:22:47,760
Bruegel. I second. Please hold on the board. That motion

1673
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,479
passes 4-0 with 2

1674
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:55,979
abstaining. Our next item tonight is our minutes from our

1675
01:22:55,979 --> 01:22:57,399
meeting on September

1676
01:22:57,399 --> 01:23:01,270
the 2nd. I'm gonna call on Commissioner Hussbeth I think

1677
01:23:01,270 --> 01:23:02,680
had a correction on

1678
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:10,399
that. Yes sir thank you. I would just request that staff go

1679
01:23:10,399 --> 01:23:11,920
back and look or

1680
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:21,479
pardon me re-listen to it's it's noted on page 11 line 41 I

1681
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:23,159
think there's some

1682
01:23:23,159 --> 01:23:28,800
context that could be added. Thank you. Yes I move that the

1683
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,199
minutes be approved

1684
01:23:31,199 --> 01:23:35,850
with that one stipulation. All right. I have a second.

1685
01:23:35,850 --> 01:23:39,699
Second. Thank You Mr. Commissioner

1686
01:23:39,699 --> 01:23:44,039
Taylor. Vote on the board please.

1687
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:12,000
That motion passes 6-0. Moves us to our consent agenda. Do

1688
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:12,239
you have a

1689
01:24:12,239 --> 01:24:17,039
motion or have any discussion for that?

1690
01:24:20,079 --> 01:24:24,039
Chair would entertain a motion.

1691
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:33,010
Second. Thank You Commissioner Taylor. I call for a vote on

1692
01:24:33,010 --> 01:24:34,720
the board.

1693
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:59,460
That motion carries 6-0. We'll move us to item number 4A,

1694
01:24:59,460 --> 01:25:00,680
items for individual

1695
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:02,859
consideration and I will call on staff for that

1696
01:25:02,859 --> 01:25:05,239
presentation. Thank You Chairperson.

1697
01:25:05,239 --> 01:25:07,340
I would ask Sophie Humer to come and make the presentation

1698
01:25:07,340 --> 01:25:08,119
to discuss the site

1699
01:25:08,119 --> 01:25:14,170
plan for the Razor Ranch South Complex. Good evening

1700
01:25:14,170 --> 01:25:15,359
Commissioner. Sophie Humer

1701
01:25:15,359 --> 01:25:17,890
associate planner with the City of Denton. I will be

1702
01:25:17,890 --> 01:25:20,800
presenting to you SP 15-5, the

1703
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:25,439
Razor Ranch Town Center phase 2B. The request before you is

1704
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:26,399
to consider

1705
01:25:26,399 --> 01:25:29,909
approval of a site plan within the Razor Ranch South Campus

1706
01:25:29,909 --> 01:25:31,279
for a 6,810

1707
01:25:31,279 --> 01:25:34,159
square foot multi-tenant retail building on a portion of

1708
01:25:34,159 --> 01:25:35,619
lot 10 block A of the

1709
01:25:35,619 --> 01:25:41,739
Razor Ranch Town Center phase 1. The request before you the

1710
01:25:41,739 --> 01:25:43,000
site here is

1711
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:46,880
located in red. It's on the south side of US Highway 380

1712
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,279
and is about 1700 feet

1713
01:25:49,279 --> 01:25:56,739
east of I-35. It's outlined in red. This is the concept and

1714
01:25:56,739 --> 01:25:57,880
schematic plan for

1715
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:01,359
the Razor Ranch Overlay District. The building in question

1716
01:26:01,359 --> 01:26:02,520
is located in the

1717
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:06,319
RR 1 sub district. Retail sales and services are permitted

1718
01:26:06,319 --> 01:26:06,560
in that

1719
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:12,739
sub district and the building is located approximately here

1720
01:26:12,739 --> 01:26:16,199
. This is a kind of a

1721
01:26:16,199 --> 01:26:19,350
where we've been schematic of the Razor Ranch Overlay on

1722
01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:20,960
the south campus. Here

1723
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:26,630
we have Highway 380 along the north running east-west and I

1724
01:26:26,630 --> 01:26:27,600
-35 running

1725
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,000
north-south on the west side of the development. We've

1726
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:32,600
previously, sorry the

1727
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,000
Planning and Doning Commission has previously approved lot

1728
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:35,720
2, it's at

1729
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:39,319
Chili's, a restaurant building, a multi-tenant retail

1730
01:26:39,319 --> 01:26:40,880
center on lot 4,

1731
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:45,659
Raising Canes here on lot 5, the Wynko building on lot 8,

1732
01:26:45,659 --> 01:26:47,000
and then the request

1733
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:51,239
before you is this property highlighted in yellow. Just one

1734
01:26:51,239 --> 01:26:53,279
note kind of about

1735
01:26:53,279 --> 01:26:56,909
the overall development of the south side. We have some

1736
01:26:56,909 --> 01:26:59,119
primary access points

1737
01:26:59,119 --> 01:27:02,640
coming off of Highway 380. This is Heritage Trail. It's a

1738
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,279
future secondary

1739
01:27:04,279 --> 01:27:10,609
arterial drive. This is the Razor Ranch Site Plan approval

1740
01:27:10,609 --> 01:27:13,279
criteria. I'll read

1741
01:27:13,279 --> 01:27:16,079
them out. Number one is that the site plan substantially

1742
01:27:16,079 --> 01:27:16,840
complies with the

1743
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:20,130
concept and schematic plan approved by City Council. This

1744
01:27:20,130 --> 01:27:21,159
is where we look at

1745
01:27:21,159 --> 01:27:24,100
our land use and our permitted uses. Number two that the

1746
01:27:24,100 --> 01:27:25,159
site plan provides

1747
01:27:25,159 --> 01:27:27,750
for a compatible arrangement of buildings and land uses

1748
01:27:27,750 --> 01:27:28,479
that would not

1749
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:32,010
adversely affect any adjoining neighborhoods or properties

1750
01:27:32,010 --> 01:27:32,640
outside of

1751
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,779
the plan. This is where we look at our site and building

1752
01:27:35,779 --> 01:27:36,680
design as it relates

1753
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,420
to the buildings around it and to the adjoining

1754
01:27:39,420 --> 01:27:42,039
neighborhoods. Number three is

1755
01:27:42,039 --> 01:27:44,119
that the site plan provides for the adequate and safe

1756
01:27:44,119 --> 01:27:44,800
circulation of

1757
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,300
vehicular traffic. Obviously we look at traffic and

1758
01:27:47,300 --> 01:27:48,960
mobility. And number four

1759
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,619
that the plan fully complies with all other sections of the

1760
01:27:51,619 --> 01:27:52,399
overly district,

1761
01:27:52,399 --> 01:27:59,590
mainly architectural compatibility as well as plaza area.

1762
01:27:59,590 --> 01:28:01,800
So to make

1763
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:05,789
sure that the site plans meet those criteria we accept a

1764
01:28:05,789 --> 01:28:07,000
site plan, a

1765
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:12,020
landscape plan, and a building elevation. This is the site

1766
01:28:12,020 --> 01:28:14,000
plan that we will be

1767
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:17,659
approving or considering approval for tonight. The Wynko

1768
01:28:17,659 --> 01:28:19,119
building is located

1769
01:28:19,119 --> 01:28:26,720
here in this space. North is located this way. 380 runs

1770
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:31,479
east-west here. The site of

1771
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:35,710
fully complies with the lot coverage and landscaped area

1772
01:28:35,710 --> 01:28:38,279
requirements. This is the

1773
01:28:38,279 --> 01:28:40,930
landscape plan. There's a good balance of landscape and

1774
01:28:40,930 --> 01:28:42,399
hardscape. Again we have

1775
01:28:42,399 --> 01:28:47,159
the building here and a parking field here. And again the

1776
01:28:47,159 --> 01:28:48,239
site plan complies

1777
01:28:48,239 --> 01:28:51,789
with the parking lot landscaping and the parking lot tree

1778
01:28:51,789 --> 01:28:53,720
canopy. This is a

1779
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:58,439
hardscape plan to show compliance with the plaza area

1780
01:28:58,439 --> 01:28:59,479
requirement. They're using

1781
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:03,100
covered area with some awnings. This is an outdoor dining

1782
01:29:03,100 --> 01:29:05,079
area. They're using

1783
01:29:05,079 --> 01:29:09,100
additional shade canopy coverage along here as well as hard

1784
01:29:09,100 --> 01:29:10,439
scape with

1785
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:15,109
integrated planters. There's a bike rack here. And once

1786
01:29:15,109 --> 01:29:15,960
again this is the

1787
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:20,310
Wynko building and there's six feet of separation between

1788
01:29:20,310 --> 01:29:23,159
the buildings. These

1789
01:29:23,159 --> 01:29:26,840
are the elevations for the site plan before you tonight.

1790
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:29,159
This elevation is the

1791
01:29:29,159 --> 01:29:33,560
side that backs up to Wynko. This is the north side of the

1792
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:34,920
building looking south.

1793
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:39,819
This is the south elevation looking north and this is the

1794
01:29:39,819 --> 01:29:41,279
front elevation

1795
01:29:41,279 --> 01:29:45,399
looking towards the parking field. Just for comparison this

1796
01:29:45,399 --> 01:29:46,920
is the approved lot

1797
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,949
four. Again you can see that there's consistency in

1798
01:29:49,949 --> 01:29:51,239
geometry, building

1799
01:29:51,239 --> 01:29:56,569
materials as well as character. This is the approved Wynko

1800
01:29:56,569 --> 01:29:58,600
elevation. The shaded

1801
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:05,960
box here is approximately where the building will be. So to

1802
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:07,560
run through the

1803
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,500
criteria for approval the site plan does fully comply with

1804
01:30:10,500 --> 01:30:11,359
the concept and

1805
01:30:11,359 --> 01:30:16,119
schematic plan. The site also provides for compatible

1806
01:30:16,119 --> 01:30:16,960
arrangement of buildings

1807
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,760
and land uses, its interior to the overall development and

1808
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:20,520
is surrounded by

1809
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:25,609
other commercial uses. The site plan also provides for

1810
01:30:25,609 --> 01:30:26,760
adequate and safe

1811
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:29,470
circulation of vehicular traffic. The site plan shares

1812
01:30:29,470 --> 01:30:30,439
access to internal

1813
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:32,800
drive aisles and also allows for safe movement of

1814
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:34,239
pedestrians and vehicular

1815
01:30:34,239 --> 01:30:39,020
traffic. And the site plan fully complies with all of the

1816
01:30:39,020 --> 01:30:40,039
development regulations

1817
01:30:40,039 --> 01:30:43,520
of the Razor Ranch overlay district including architectural

1818
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:44,199
compatibility

1819
01:30:44,199 --> 01:30:49,409
and the plaza area requirement. Staff is recommending

1820
01:30:49,409 --> 01:30:50,760
approval of the proposed

1821
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,550
site plan. It is consistent with the Razor Ranch overlay

1822
01:30:53,550 --> 01:30:54,680
district. I will stand

1823
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:58,609
for any questions and the applicant is here for any

1824
01:30:58,609 --> 01:30:59,760
questions.

1825
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:03,720
Any questions for staff?

1826
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,350
I believe the applicant is here. Are there any questions

1827
01:31:13,350 --> 01:31:16,920
for the applicant?

1828
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:28,119
Commissioner Beck. Thank you Mr. Chair. For the applicant,

1829
01:31:28,119 --> 01:31:32,119
who's the applicant?

1830
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:37,010
Do we know who, have the space has been rented out in this

1831
01:31:37,010 --> 01:31:38,840
building yet? The

1832
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:43,100
restaurant on one end and you've got some retail. Good

1833
01:31:43,100 --> 01:31:45,119
evening Scott Wagner for

1834
01:31:45,119 --> 01:31:45,119
Red Development the applicant. Thank you for having me. We

1835
01:31:45,119 --> 01:31:49,439
do not have any

1836
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:52,680
tenants named yet under contract. We were working with a

1837
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:53,800
handful of tenants

1838
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:56,600
as the plans are just getting developed. So when the plans

1839
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:57,560
get prepared we take

1840
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:59,770
them out to market and we start putting together the tenant

1841
01:31:59,770 --> 01:32:02,159
list. Okay thank you.

1842
01:32:02,159 --> 01:32:08,039
Commissioner Taylor. Thank you Chair. Thank you Mr. Wagner.

1843
01:32:08,039 --> 01:32:09,479
In the work session

1844
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:13,340
we had some questions regarding just kind of project status

1845
01:32:13,340 --> 01:32:14,319
and I know that

1846
01:32:14,319 --> 01:32:16,590
there's been some earth moving over there and now that you

1847
01:32:16,590 --> 01:32:17,479
have I guess four

1848
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:21,880
or so lots approved. I was wondering if you could give us

1849
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:23,239
just a brief update on

1850
01:32:23,239 --> 01:32:27,109
how things are progressing? Sure. Progressing on schedule

1851
01:32:27,109 --> 01:32:27,880
which is always

1852
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:30,460
the most important for us and on budget which is second

1853
01:32:30,460 --> 01:32:31,960
most important. Our

1854
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:34,880
tenants are happy to see the progress out there both for

1855
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:35,920
the stores that are

1856
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,380
under contract and ready to go start construction. I

1857
01:32:38,380 --> 01:32:40,199
believe Chili's and

1858
01:32:40,199 --> 01:32:43,140
Raising Cane should be out in construction in the next few

1859
01:32:43,140 --> 01:32:43,520
weeks.

1860
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:49,090
Wynco should be out in the next month or so. And our retail

1861
01:32:49,090 --> 01:32:50,359
building if you

1862
01:32:50,359 --> 01:32:52,680
drove by today you would see the wall standing up. So we're

1863
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:53,439
hoping to have that

1864
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:56,060
retail building dried in by the holidays by the turn of the

1865
01:32:56,060 --> 01:32:56,680
year and start

1866
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:59,539
delivering over to the tenants that would occupy that

1867
01:32:59,539 --> 01:33:02,359
building sometime in

1868
01:33:02,359 --> 01:33:04,899
towards the beginning of the year and they could start

1869
01:33:04,899 --> 01:33:06,000
occupying that and be

1870
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:09,399
open by springtime. So the phase one if you will the

1871
01:33:09,399 --> 01:33:10,119
infrastructure and the

1872
01:33:10,119 --> 01:33:13,649
utilities and the off-site roadways that's all on schedule

1873
01:33:13,649 --> 01:33:14,319
and being

1874
01:33:14,319 --> 01:33:16,680
constructed now the building starting to go up and our

1875
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:17,680
tenants will start to

1876
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:21,079
occupy their property in the next few weeks. And as that

1877
01:33:21,079 --> 01:33:21,640
construction

1878
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:28,590
progresses are you going to build the heritage trail out

1879
01:33:28,590 --> 01:33:29,520
basically at

1880
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:31,979
the same time as this construction progresses? A portion of

1881
01:33:31,979 --> 01:33:32,640
it. The portion

1882
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:34,760
necessary to open and operate this phase is under

1883
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:36,119
construction. It was

1884
01:33:36,119 --> 01:33:39,199
blue-topped last week and they should start they're forming

1885
01:33:39,199 --> 01:33:40,000
right now and they

1886
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:45,600
should start paving in the next few weeks. Thank you.

1887
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:54,239
Any other questions for the applicant? The chair would

1888
01:33:54,239 --> 01:33:57,760
entertain a motion.

1889
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:05,529
The first from Commissioner Detowitz and the second from

1890
01:34:05,529 --> 01:34:08,479
Gerald Husquith for a

1891
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:13,520
vote on the board. I'm sorry I apologize. I got ahead of

1892
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:14,520
myself.

1893
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:20,710
Commissioner Detowitz? I move to approve as submitted. I

1894
01:34:20,710 --> 01:34:24,880
second. Thank you

1895
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:28,319
Commissioner Husquith. I have a first and a second for

1896
01:34:28,319 --> 01:34:30,840
approval. Call for a vote on

1897
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:33,119
the board.

1898
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:55,760
Motion carries 6-0. I will move us to item 5 our public

1899
01:34:55,760 --> 01:35:06,319
hearings. Item A. At

1900
01:35:06,319 --> 01:35:09,850
this time I will open the public hearing for item A which

1901
01:35:09,850 --> 01:35:11,880
is going to be FR 15-0018.

1902
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:23,970
That is to hold a public hearing and consider a final repl

1903
01:35:23,970 --> 01:35:25,199
at of lot 7R

1904
01:35:25,199 --> 01:35:31,729
block 21 of the Villages of Carmel phase 2B. Thank you

1905
01:35:31,729 --> 01:35:32,399
Chair members of the

1906
01:35:32,399 --> 01:35:36,720
Commission. As was stated this is FR 15-18. It is a final

1907
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:37,199
replat in the

1908
01:35:37,199 --> 01:35:41,079
Villages of Carmel. The lot that's being replatted is shown

1909
01:35:41,079 --> 01:35:41,600
roughly here in

1910
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:44,550
yellow. You can see how the grading work has been as this

1911
01:35:44,550 --> 01:35:45,439
area has been under

1912
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:49,159
construction with single-family homes. The purpose of this

1913
01:35:49,159 --> 01:35:49,960
plat is you can

1914
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:54,220
blow it up to the lot here. There's a temporary waterline

1915
01:35:54,220 --> 01:35:55,239
easement that was

1916
01:35:55,239 --> 01:35:57,600
used for construction of the Villages of Carmel and that

1917
01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:58,640
waterline is served its

1918
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:01,520
purpose. It's been removed so the purpose of this replat is

1919
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:02,159
to take that easement

1920
01:36:02,159 --> 01:36:06,680
off and then they can build a single-family home. The plat

1921
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:07,600
meets all the

1922
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:13,039
technical requirements and staff recommends approval. I

1923
01:36:13,039 --> 01:36:13,119
stand for any questions.

1924
01:36:19,399 --> 01:36:22,720
Any questions for staff?

1925
01:36:26,239 --> 01:36:34,560
This is a public hearing. I have one card to speak. Mr. Rod

1926
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:36,039
Zilke would like to come up

1927
01:36:36,039 --> 01:36:41,960
please. Mr. Chairman and Commissioners my name is Rod Zilke

1928
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:43,279
with ZPS Consulting

1929
01:36:43,279 --> 01:36:47,600
Engineers at 1111 Main Street in Grapevine, Texas. I'm here

1930
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:48,239
representing

1931
01:36:48,239 --> 01:36:51,720
the applicant if you have any questions.

1932
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:08,300
Commissioner Dudowitz. I move to approve. I submit. Thank

1933
01:37:08,300 --> 01:37:14,960
you. I pause. I need to

1934
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:19,189
if there's no one else to speak seeing none I'll close the

1935
01:37:19,189 --> 01:37:20,560
public hearing on

1936
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:20,560
this item and I will call on Commissioner Dudowitz. Yes

1937
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:26,600
thank you

1938
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:33,300
Chairman. I move to approve as submitted. Commissioner Beck

1939
01:37:33,300 --> 01:37:35,840
. I second that motion.

1940
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:40,239
Thank you. First and a second for approval and call for a

1941
01:37:40,239 --> 01:37:40,760
vote on the

1942
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,159
board please.

1943
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:59,760
The motion passes 6 to 0. We'll move us to item 5B. I will

1944
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:00,720
open the public

1945
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:03,409
hearing for 5B which is to hold a public hearing and

1946
01:38:03,409 --> 01:38:04,600
consider making a

1947
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:07,789
recommendation to City Council regarding a rezoning request

1948
01:38:07,789 --> 01:38:08,079
from

1949
01:38:08,079 --> 01:38:14,329
regional Center Commercial downtown to Employment Center

1950
01:38:14,329 --> 01:38:18,640
Industrial staff.

1951
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:23,279
Good evening I'm Julie Wyatt, Associate Planner with the

1952
01:38:23,279 --> 01:38:24,560
City of Denton and I'm

1953
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:29,210
presenting Z1522 to you tonight, Hull edition. The request

1954
01:38:29,210 --> 01:38:29,840
before you is to

1955
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:32,930
consider making a recommendation to City Council regarding

1956
01:38:32,930 --> 01:38:34,000
a rezoning request

1957
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:37,850
from regional Center Commercial downtown to Employment

1958
01:38:37,850 --> 01:38:40,560
Center Industrial.

1959
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,960
Just to orient you here's the subject property. It is about

1960
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:45,600
one and a half

1961
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:49,279
acres and it is located on the north side of Schuyler

1962
01:38:49,279 --> 01:38:53,399
Street west of I-35.

1963
01:38:53,399 --> 01:38:56,489
Just to give you a little bit of background the property

1964
01:38:56,489 --> 01:38:57,520
was rezoned in

1965
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:02,680
2011 to RCCD. It was actually rezoned from RCCN which is

1966
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:03,439
Regional Center

1967
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:07,449
Commercial Neighborhood. This was in order to accommodate a

1968
01:39:07,449 --> 01:39:09,239
vehicle repair use.

1969
01:39:09,239 --> 01:39:14,449
That RCC, the rezoning to RCCD made sense at the time. It

1970
01:39:14,449 --> 01:39:16,479
was based upon the

1971
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:20,989
comprehensive plan that was in place that considered this

1972
01:39:20,989 --> 01:39:21,560
area the

1973
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:25,149
future land use designation to be regional mixed use center

1974
01:39:25,149 --> 01:39:26,039
. The intent of

1975
01:39:26,039 --> 01:39:30,300
that future land use in the previous Denton plan was to

1976
01:39:30,300 --> 01:39:32,279
encourage shopping,

1977
01:39:32,279 --> 01:39:37,770
recreation, entertainment and employment uses to serve the

1978
01:39:37,770 --> 01:39:38,119
entire

1979
01:39:38,119 --> 01:39:43,119
region. So it was a commercial type district. However, as

1980
01:39:43,119 --> 01:39:44,439
the area has

1981
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:47,310
evolved and as the area has developed it's kind of

1982
01:39:47,310 --> 01:39:48,600
developed in a different

1983
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:53,520
way that no longer really meets that definition of the

1984
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:54,960
regional mixed use

1985
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:58,090
center. So let's just look at the adjacent land uses so you

1986
01:39:58,090 --> 01:39:59,000
can see what

1987
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:02,760
I'm talking about. If you'll look along I-35 that has

1988
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:04,079
developed with commercial

1989
01:40:04,079 --> 01:40:08,020
uses. There are hotels and offices with that frontage to I-

1990
01:40:08,020 --> 01:40:10,000
35. However, as you

1991
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:13,579
move away toward the west between the 35 commercial

1992
01:40:13,579 --> 01:40:17,760
corridor and the rail line

1993
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:21,000
to the west this has really developed with a lot of

1994
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:22,600
industrial uses, some

1995
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:26,029
light industrial uses. So it's kind of developed in a way

1996
01:40:26,029 --> 01:40:26,760
that wasn't

1997
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:31,579
appropriate for that future land use. So we come to the

1998
01:40:31,579 --> 01:40:33,039
current comprehensive

1999
01:40:33,039 --> 01:40:36,229
plan, Denton plan 2030 and you can see it is here's the

2000
01:40:36,229 --> 01:40:37,239
subject property right

2001
01:40:37,239 --> 01:40:41,000
here. You see that it has changed to business innovation.

2002
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:42,000
The intent of

2003
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:47,920
business innovation is to accommodate office parks, large

2004
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:49,239
employment centers

2005
01:40:49,239 --> 01:40:53,890
and also complementary uses such as retail, restaurants,

2006
01:40:53,890 --> 01:40:55,199
services to serve

2007
01:40:55,199 --> 01:40:57,960
those employment centers. So that's really the intent of

2008
01:40:57,960 --> 01:40:59,039
business innovation.

2009
01:40:59,039 --> 01:41:04,529
It can include offices, retail and also some light

2010
01:41:04,529 --> 01:41:06,359
industrial and warehouse

2011
01:41:06,359 --> 01:41:10,479
uses. And there was some discussion in the work session I

2012
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:11,159
just want to further

2013
01:41:11,159 --> 01:41:14,560
articulate on because there was some concern about

2014
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:19,720
compatibility with the

2015
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:23,229
existing zoning and then the proposed zoning within the

2016
01:41:23,229 --> 01:41:24,279
future land use

2017
01:41:24,279 --> 01:41:26,550
designation. So I just want to touch on that just a little

2018
01:41:26,550 --> 01:41:28,319
bit. So this business

2019
01:41:28,319 --> 01:41:32,550
innovation future land use, it can accommodate several

2020
01:41:32,550 --> 01:41:34,520
zoning districts. So

2021
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:39,359
one would be the requested zoning district of employment

2022
01:41:39,359 --> 01:41:40,039
center industrial

2023
01:41:40,039 --> 01:41:42,619
but there are other zoning districts that could fit within

2024
01:41:42,619 --> 01:41:43,439
that future land

2025
01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:50,920
use designation. RCCN which is what the property to the

2026
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:52,199
north is currently zoned

2027
01:41:52,199 --> 01:41:55,130
as doesn't really fit within that future land use

2028
01:41:55,130 --> 01:41:56,920
designation because of some of

2029
01:41:56,920 --> 01:42:01,149
the uses. It doesn't meet the intent. And so there will be

2030
01:42:01,149 --> 01:42:02,279
future discussions

2031
01:42:02,279 --> 01:42:05,760
regarding rezoning in order for the area to come into line

2032
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:06,680
more with what the

2033
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:11,640
future land use designation is. So with that I'll back up a

2034
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:12,640
little bit and look

2035
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:16,100
at what's on the ground now, what the zoning is. So

2036
01:42:16,100 --> 01:42:17,479
currently the property is

2037
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:21,729
zoned as regional center commercial downtown. The proposed

2038
01:42:21,729 --> 01:42:23,039
rezoning is to

2039
01:42:23,039 --> 01:42:26,000
employment center industrial ECI. If you look at the two

2040
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:27,319
zoning districts side by

2041
01:42:27,319 --> 01:42:30,250
side they have a lot of similarities in terms of the

2042
01:42:30,250 --> 01:42:31,680
commercial uses that are

2043
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:35,520
permitted. They both have a real broad array of what those

2044
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:36,560
commercial uses are

2045
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:39,960
and those are in your backup that was provided to you.

2046
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:41,119
Where the differences

2047
01:42:41,119 --> 01:42:45,609
come is that RCCD does have a residential component. It

2048
01:42:45,609 --> 01:42:46,399
does permit

2049
01:42:46,399 --> 01:42:51,430
multifamily with a limitation. Whereas ECI does not have

2050
01:42:51,430 --> 01:42:53,760
residential uses. ECI

2051
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:57,630
also adds a little bit more of the industrial uses that are

2052
01:42:57,630 --> 01:42:58,119
on the

2053
01:42:58,119 --> 01:43:01,979
industrial or on the use table that RCC doesn't permit. So

2054
01:43:01,979 --> 01:43:03,119
it adds a little more

2055
01:43:03,119 --> 01:43:06,649
flexibility to have employment centers but also have the

2056
01:43:06,649 --> 01:43:08,119
complementary retail

2057
01:43:08,119 --> 01:43:14,170
uses that are currently existing along the 35 area. So when

2058
01:43:14,170 --> 01:43:15,640
staff looked at this

2059
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:18,760
rezoning application we had some considerations we looked

2060
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:20,800
at. First we

2061
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:23,260
consider the ECI is more appropriate for today's

2062
01:43:23,260 --> 01:43:24,560
development pattern and its

2063
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:29,800
existing uses. First because of how it's how it's developed

2064
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:31,060
the industrial uses

2065
01:43:31,060 --> 01:43:36,359
are mixing with the commercial uses that are along I-35 and

2066
01:43:36,359 --> 01:43:37,359
the the uses that are

2067
01:43:37,359 --> 01:43:41,329
permitted in ECI are more in line with that current

2068
01:43:41,329 --> 01:43:44,079
development pattern. Also

2069
01:43:44,079 --> 01:43:49,760
that the permitted uses in ECI offer more flexibility. The

2070
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:50,840
vehicle repair use

2071
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:55,069
that came in when the rezoning happened in 2011 is still

2072
01:43:55,069 --> 01:43:56,119
there and they don't

2073
01:43:56,119 --> 01:44:01,060
intend to vacate the property but by rezoning to ECI it

2074
01:44:01,060 --> 01:44:02,239
would allow some of

2075
01:44:02,239 --> 01:44:05,640
those industrial uses that if the nature of their industry

2076
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:06,319
changed more

2077
01:44:06,319 --> 01:44:09,029
technologies came it would give them flexibility to expand

2078
01:44:09,029 --> 01:44:09,840
their operation.

2079
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:14,189
Furthermore the property owner if if the current tenant did

2080
01:44:14,189 --> 01:44:15,960
did vacate they could

2081
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:19,359
redevelop the property with more flexible uses depending on

2082
01:44:19,359 --> 01:44:21,000
the trends of the area

2083
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:25,939
whether it would go more industrial or commercial. And last

2084
01:44:25,939 --> 01:44:27,319
that the ECI does

2085
01:44:27,319 --> 01:44:30,390
meet the intent of business innovation as a future land use

2086
01:44:30,390 --> 01:44:31,720
designation. It is

2087
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:35,119
one of several zoning districts that could fall within the

2088
01:44:35,119 --> 01:44:35,880
overarching

2089
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:40,130
business innovation future land use designation but it is

2090
01:44:40,130 --> 01:44:41,239
it is appropriate

2091
01:44:41,239 --> 01:44:44,640
due to the the uses that are permitted and the intent of

2092
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:45,600
providing the

2093
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:49,899
flexibility between employment some industrial uses but

2094
01:44:49,899 --> 01:44:51,039
also the commercial

2095
01:44:51,039 --> 01:44:56,020
uses as well. So when we look at subchapter 3 of the Denton

2096
01:44:56,020 --> 01:44:56,520
development

2097
01:44:56,520 --> 01:45:00,930
code we have two criteria that we look at for rezoning. One

2098
01:45:00,930 --> 01:45:01,960
would be that the

2099
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:05,359
proposed use conforms to the Denton plan and in this case

2100
01:45:05,359 --> 01:45:06,479
it does and then the

2101
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:09,119
second that the proposed rezoning would facilitate the

2102
01:45:09,119 --> 01:45:10,199
adequate provision of

2103
01:45:10,199 --> 01:45:13,680
public infrastructure which this does. A public

2104
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:16,279
notification was sent out we

2105
01:45:16,279 --> 01:45:22,340
received no no letters in opposition or in favor other than

2106
01:45:22,340 --> 01:45:23,800
the applicant he did

2107
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:28,539
send us a letter in favor. So based upon the considerations

2108
01:45:28,539 --> 01:45:29,319
and also the

2109
01:45:29,319 --> 01:45:32,420
criteria for approval staff does recommend approval of this

2110
01:45:32,420 --> 01:45:33,119
request. I

2111
01:45:33,119 --> 01:45:36,010
can stand for questions the applicant couldn't be here this

2112
01:45:36,010 --> 01:45:36,920
evening but I can

2113
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:40,819
answer any questions or some questions that you have. And

2114
01:45:40,819 --> 01:45:41,720
he has provided an

2115
01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:47,399
email which you have stating that he would not be present

2116
01:45:47,399 --> 01:45:47,479
today.

2117
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:59,270
Questions for staff? Thank you. This is a public hearing.

2118
01:45:59,270 --> 01:46:00,640
Seeing no one else in the

2119
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:06,689
audience wishing to speak we'll close the public hearing

2120
01:46:06,689 --> 01:46:08,319
and the chair will

2121
01:46:08,319 --> 01:46:11,079
entertain a motion.

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Commissioner Taylor. Thank you chair. I move approval I

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move recommendation of

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approval of this item to City Council. Thank you.

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Commissioner Dudowitz. Thank you I second the motion. Okay

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have a first and a

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second we will call for a vote on the board.

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The motion carries 6-0. Moves us to our last item on our

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agenda concluding items.

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I assume that's same thing as future items. New term.

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Commissioner Bruegel. Thank you

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chair. I understand we just switched this new technology so

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maybe it got dropped

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but I was hoping we could get a chance to look at the

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matrix again sometime soon

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just kind of check in and see what we're at with that. Yes

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at the last meeting if you

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recall I had to juggle some of those requests and

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prioritize them. I'm still

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working on those to be blunt so as soon as we get to them I

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'll provide them in

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the packet. Thank you. Commissioner Taylor. Thank you chair

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. I would like to request

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a future work session agenda item to discuss forming a sub

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committee to look

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at a city initiated rezoning of the area off Mesa Drive and

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Shuler that we've

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seen tonight and we've seen several cases in the past

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couple of years and I

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think it would be good for us to or some subset of this

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body to have some

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discussions about it maybe reach out to the property owners

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out there and stop

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this one lot at a time rezone and just go ahead and rezone

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the entire area.

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Anything else? We'll prepare an item probably not for the

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next meeting but the following

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meeting to that to present to you with program plan. Any

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other items? With that

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we will close tonight's planning and zoning Commission

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meeting at 7 0 5. Thank

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you.