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 Good morning, and welcome to this meeting of the Mobility Committee of the City of Denton.

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 We have a quorum present.

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 We don't have decisions to take today, but we have a lot of interesting sounding reports

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 and information.

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 So we'll start with item A, Receive a Report and Hold a Discussion Regarding City of Denton

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 Transportation/Mobility Project Status Report.

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 Mr. Polstoo.

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 Good morning.

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 My name is John Polstoo with Innovative Transportation Solutions, and you have your report before

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 you.

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 I will adjust it a little bit for those watching to see if they can see as much of it as possible

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 per page.

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 So the first sheet as we go through is this the project summary sheet that shows the projects

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 we're working on and dollar amounts associated with it.

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 It's roughly about $2.5 billion worth of projects we're working on in the city of Denton and

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 the surrounding areas.

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 First project we want to talk to you about is 2181 North/South Construction Project.

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 It is under construction.

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 We are working with Mrs. Zachary project.

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 It has a July 22 project.

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 The major issue on this project right now is we continue to do, and we have Travis Kimball,

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 the area engineer for a text out here today with us.

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 Pretty question you may have with him, but we are working on getting the critical path

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 item on this project is to have the traffic switch done in October.

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 If we can get that traffic switch done in October and we meet that date, then the timeline

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 for hitting the July 22 completion date, I'm going to have to make that larger, my glasses

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 are fogging up, if we can hit the time frame, then the July 22 completion date is much more

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 realistic to hit.

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 We have a wall, a sound wall, that is going to have to be tweaked on this project once

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 the traffic switch is completed due to the fact that the sound wall was added after some

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 of the utilities were relocated into an area where the sound wall has to go.

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 So we're going to work on that after we get the traffic switch in October, but it looks

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 like things are coming together.

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 We have various utility conflicts on a regular basis, but there's nothing that we can't

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 deal with on a daily basis.

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 So we are working daily on that and the city is, we're meeting with the staff and text

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 out regularly on this project and everybody seems to be working good together.

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 Any questions on 2181?

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 We're good.

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 Do I need to be recognized by the chair?

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 I didn't see your sign there, Council Member McGuire.

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 Yes, thank you.

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 I have several questions.

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 This is right through the heart of my district, right in my backyard, and I've gotten lots

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 and lots of questions from constituents about this.

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 Can you speak to sidewalks?

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 I can see, because I'm watching the progress very closely, that there are cutouts, sidewalks

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 are coming.

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 Can you speak to what the size of the sidewalks is going to be and when we can anticipate

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 those going down?

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 So what the contractor is supposed to be doing in the interim is continuing to make sure

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 that there are improved services for the pedestrians in that corridor continuously, so that might

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 just be gravel to connect where the sidewalks are.

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 But ultimately, when the project's completed, there'll be five foot sidewalks on both sides

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 of the road, continuously throughout the corridor.

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 And can we anticipate those happening after?

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 They are part of the project, so at July 22, when the project's complete, the sidewalks

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 will be installed.

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 Okay, excellent, excellent, as far as, sorry to get into this level of detail, but people

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 are like, "When can my kids walk to school?"

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 Can we anticipate, for example, the concretes going down at some of the cross streets on

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 the west side currently, can we anticipate that west side sidewalk going down as part

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 of that, or should we anticipate that happening after the traffic switch?

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 So again, what we tried to do with the school district was provide some type of surface

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 continuously through the construction of the project, so that if those that are walking

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 aren't walking in mud.

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 So they can do it now, it's just not on sidewalk.

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 It may be in gravel, it may be in crushed asphalt or whatnot, but they're able to do

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 that outside of the construction area now.

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 So I don't think there's a phasing where the sidewalks will be done before the road is.

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 I think it's going to all be done at the same time.

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 Okay, all right, thank you, that answers that question.

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 Can you elaborate a little bit on the sound walls?

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 I see these like 178R and 180R, I don't know what that means, are those locations?

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 Yes, and I've always asked for better descriptions on locations and tech center refuses to give

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 it to me, so I'm going to throw them under the bus.

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 But it's where it was shown in the schematics, do you know roughly where that is?

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 We'll get a better description in the report.

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 Okay, yeah, if you could tell me where those sound walls are going up, because I've had

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 several people ask me about that sound wall.

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 I will get back to my computer, and before the hours out after I leave here, you'll know

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 the locations.

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 Great, thank you so much.

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 They're on the schematic and the schematics on my computer and on Keep It Moving Dallas

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 and they'll show the locations.

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 Oh, okay, so I can look at Keep It Moving Dallas?

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 Yes, ma'am.

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 Okay, all right, then I'll go ahead and do that as well.

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 I need to get more facility with that.

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 It takes practice to learn that site.

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 Yeah, yeah.

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 Okay, I think that was all my questions, yes, thank you.

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 Okay.

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 Then the 35E Mayhill Project, again, the critical path item on this project is the utility relocations.

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 You'll see the very long list of utilities here.

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 We've been meeting with city staff and utility DME and your city utility folks to talk about

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 expediting the time frame on this.

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 You see that we have a ready to let date of September 23, and we have some overlap on

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 that with the city's utilities.

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 We started a two-week meeting every two weeks, meeting last week with city staff, and we'll

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 have another meeting this Friday on some, is that this Friday, on some issues related

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 to that, but the reality is that the $87 million job, we did add some scope because we wanted

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 to do those bypasses at Brinker, so there were some things that we added about a year

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 ago that expanded the work for the city's utilities, but we have to hit our let date,

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 and we have to find a way to make sure everybody hits that date, so that's the critical path

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 item, just the utilities.

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 The Big Kahuna 35E merge project, again, the right of way is completed on this.

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 We're working on the utilities.

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 We think we have a path forward on this, and again, this is one of those projects that

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 we are meeting with staff on a bi-weekly time frame to make sure that any issues that come

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 up, both from the water, wastewater side and DME side, that we quickly address it, and

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 what TechSite has communicated to the city is, is if there's anything on the design

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 that TechSite's doing that impedes or impacts the utilities in a negative way, that if they'll

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 let us, the state, know, then the state will change the design to minimize the impact to

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 the utilities to the extent possible.

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 So we are shooting for that August 23, ready to let date.

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 Significant number of utilities, yes, sir.

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 Councilmember McCoy.

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 Oh, thank you.

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 Yeah.

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 Question about those utilities and the DME lines that I know are being moved as part

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 of that.

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 Have we reached any kind of consensus regarding how we're going to relocate those transmission

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 lines?

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 So, yeah, what am I doing answering?

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 Yeah, I think this is more a question for my colleagues here.

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 That project is actually being delivered by our utility department and also municipal

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 electric, but there are corridors, they've hired consultants along with internal staff

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 are working through that.

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 The project will require additional easements along the entire corridor for those utilities

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 to be relocated.

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 Some of those easements will be located along the actual corridor of 35, others will be

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 offset and offsite, so for example, they're looking at easements to be moved, and I'll

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 give James Wood as an example, to be behind James Wood versus in front of James Wood.

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 So there's some creative measures that are being looked at to try to find out the best

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 way to reroute the utilities, but the Denton Municipal Electric and Water Wastewater Utility

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 Departments are working together to see if easements can be acquired for the city versus

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 individual utilities also.

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 And that's part of the area where we're going to be working with the city to see if there's

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 a manner in which we can help expedite the schedule on these projects is the easement

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 acquisition process.

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 Good.

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 Okay.

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 Karen?

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 Okay, so the 380 interim project says that we're going to be starting on September 20th.

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 Travis just told me that the good news is we're starting.

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 The bad news is Friday night we're shutting down the on-ramp, which should immediately

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 improve the traffic on 35, but if you want to get on, you'll have to find someplace else

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 to do it between now and when the project gets completed.

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 But we are starting and we are still anticipating having substantial completion sometime around

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 the end/first of the year of this coming year.

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 So it begins.

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 At least you're fudging sooner, rather than fudging later, yeah, that's right.

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 Substantial completion means that you're doing what you can where you're supposed to legally,

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 but we may be still doing some farming and landscaping and close-out punch list items,

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 but you're essentially driving where you're supposed to without getting a ticket.

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 And then the big project to the north, we continue to acquire the right-of-way.

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 There are 115 parcels.

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 We're a little bit further behind on this project just simply because when we got load

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 slowed down, we didn't stop.

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 We just went from 55 miles an hour to 30 miles an hour on acquisition.

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 We had more parcels to acquire.

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 It still has a 2023 let date, but we have a significant number of parcels still to acquire.

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 There are utilities out there, as you can see, that we still need to work with.

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 The good news is that there's not a whole lot of impact to the city north of 77, so

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 we shouldn't be beating up on y'all for that one too bad.

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 And we have a meeting set to discuss how to work with the TxDOT PIO office because what

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 we're going to do is all of these 35 projects, the Mayhill, the Merge, and the big project

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 to the north, that we're going to treat that as a corridor project.

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 And so all of that communication to your residents will be done in a unified manner.

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 So we're going to get with the district's PIO.

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 They've got some new pilot programs, and I'm not on social media, so I don't know exactly

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 what they are, but it's where they can communicate through neighborhood or just talk or some

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 other third thing that I don't know about, where it's interactive and they keep you informed.

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 And so we're going to put a more proactive, more like what we did with AGL on 35E project,

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 but AGL was responsible for that public outreach.

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 This will be TxDOT doing it through these new pilot programs, and once we have a better

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 idea of what that looks like, we'll bring that to y'all and your public information

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 folks to meld it into your system.

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 Okay, we always skip main lanes.

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 We are fixing to be environmentally cleared though.

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 What that means is, is that from right-of-way line to right-of-way line, from now on, anything

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 in the city of Denton, both the city and the county can protect that corridor as development

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 comes along that corridor, which is all we really wanted to do for the main lane segment.

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 The real project is the frontage road segment.

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 We are still working to get HNTB on contract.

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 We think that within another month or so we'll have HNTB on contract and then they'll begin

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 the PS&E, the plan specifications and estimate work to start doing the plans for the frontage

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 roads.

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 Right now we have it split 407 North is phase one, 407 South is phase two, but we have submitted

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 this and we are partnering with the Dallas district to get this project on a list to

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 be ready for a list of projects that may be asked by the commission if they have to reallocate

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 some of the funds out of Houston and Austin, because those projects are not going to make

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 their let dates.

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 So, this is a candidate project.

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 It's clear lanes, even though it's frontage roads are classified as clear lanes, it's

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 environmentally cleared, requiring right of way, and we're into the design of the project.

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 So it meets all the criteria for submitting money for those projects.

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 So if all goes well and they say yes, we can expedite the schedule to move up the ready

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 to let date, but if we just follow the normal procedures of normal timeframes, we're looking

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 at June of 2024 for a ready to let date for the frontage roads.

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 Okay, your 380-377 project, this is the segment from 288 out to the 377 cut north.

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 It's got a November 2023 completion date, the construction report, basically.

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 What we're doing is shoring up the bridge, so I'm going to go back up to the map here.

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 So this area, where you see where it crosses the lake, that's the bridge structure that

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 they're doing the underpinning to make sure that it can hold up to the additional weight

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 of the additional capacity we're putting on.

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 Once we get that done, what we've asked TxDOT to do is to do some temporary, you know, they

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 got to look at it from a phasing standpoint, but to do some temporary center barrier protection

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 now because those accidents that have been occurring are crossover accidents.

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 We're still asking the city to do the ordinance to reduce the speed temporarily to the 50-mile-an-hour

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 speed just because it helps us make everybody aware that that is a construction zone.

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 Once the project is done, it'll go back to its normal posted speed of 60 miles an hour

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 or whatever the 85th percentile shows it needs to be after the project is completed.

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 But we still believe that the best solution for the safety out there is in the interim

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 to put that barrier up in the median.

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 Ultimately, when the project's done, it has a raised median, and that will be the safety

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 issue that protects the crossover traffic accidents.

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 - Council Member McGuire?

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 - Can you give us a timeline on the temporary barrier?

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 - I knew you were going to ask me that.

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 Brandon told us at the other meeting that it might be the first quarter next year.

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 Yeah, it's, we're talking probably spring before we can, because they're out there having

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 to shore up all of those columns and bridge vents to make sure that it can carry the weight

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 of the additional capacity for the additional lanes.

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 Even when you put those plastic barriers, those are filled with water, and so they add

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 weight to the structure.

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 - That answers my very next question, which is why can't we just go stick them out there?

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 You mentioned an ordinance to lower the speed limit.

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 Is that something that's going to come before council?

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 - Did I jump the bean?

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 - I don't know.

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 - No, Council Member McGuire, we are actually working through that ordinance right now.

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 We have a preliminary draft that Legal is going to be reviewing in the very near future.

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 It's in their inbox, so they just received it as of yesterday.

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 And so we are working through that, and then it will come before council as an item for

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 approval to lower the speed limit, not only within the area across this project that John

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 just mentioned, also into town for Ruedell, just because we have some areas in there that

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 we need to lower the speed limit, and this will all be temporarily during the construction.

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 And so we're working through that process.

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 It may go to council before it comes to Mobility Committee, just due to timing, but we will

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 absolutely put it as a part of the agenda for Mobility Committee also.

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 - Great.

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 Yeah.

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 And I definitely, you know, time is of the essence.

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 There have been quite a lot of those head-on collisions.

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 So I'm totally okay with that, going straight to council to get it done as quickly as possible.

00:19:36.840 --> 00:19:37.840
 - Okay.

00:19:37.840 --> 00:19:38.840
 Thank you very much.

00:19:38.840 --> 00:19:45.000
 - Yeah, it's in the report, so I didn't spill the beans.

00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:49.520
 All right, then the next project, 380 East.

00:19:49.520 --> 00:19:57.560
 It has been let to Regal, was that who I got it?

00:19:57.560 --> 00:20:05.000
 Zachary, that's even better, came in a little, about five and a half percent under, and it's

00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:09.680
 got 36 months in barricades, 936 working days.

00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:14.920
 That's how we're able to say that anticipated construction, oh, we don't have a start date.

00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:20.760
 So we awarded it to Zachary, but they have a delayed start of sometime in December because

00:20:20.760 --> 00:20:24.160
 there are still some utilities that had to be relocated, but we wanted to go ahead and

00:20:24.160 --> 00:20:26.660
 get the project let.

00:20:26.660 --> 00:20:35.240
 So we will continue to monitor this, and come December, we'll have a pre-construction meeting,

00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:40.200
 and then we'll be able to know what start date is and what the completion date is.

00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:48.840
 But it has been awarded, and the utilities are being completed, and we'll continue that

00:20:48.840 --> 00:20:53.840
 project all the way out to the county line, and that also we're asking the communities

00:20:53.840 --> 00:20:59.720
 in that section of 380 to do the ordinances to do the speed, work zone speed to 50 miles

00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:05.400
 an hour, because we're just anticipating we're going to have that same problem there.

00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:09.820
 John, real quick, I would like to just say that we actually are looking at lowering the

00:21:09.820 --> 00:21:14.300
 speed limit to 45 miles per hour, and then 40 in some of the other areas.

00:21:14.300 --> 00:21:17.880
 So it will be a little bit different based on our results and research that we've done.

00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:23.360
 So we're confirming and reviewing that, and then we'll provide that as soon as possible

00:21:23.360 --> 00:21:24.360
 to counsel.

00:21:24.360 --> 00:21:25.360
 Great.

00:21:25.360 --> 00:21:26.360
 I'm glad to hear that.

00:21:26.360 --> 00:21:27.360
 Okay.

00:21:27.360 --> 00:21:33.600
 So the US 380 feasibility study, we've got a meeting scheduled with the district off

00:21:33.600 --> 00:21:34.600
 cycle.

00:21:34.600 --> 00:21:39.080
 I think we got it set sooner than later, and part of what we're going to do from the county

00:21:39.080 --> 00:21:42.820
 standpoint is we're going to divide the baby.

00:21:42.820 --> 00:21:50.880
 So the county and the state, we work together on who does what on the development of these

00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:51.880
 projects.

00:21:51.880 --> 00:21:57.000
 We are probably fixing to, Denton County is fixing to go out for an RFQ for the outer

00:21:57.000 --> 00:22:03.720
 loop, the EIS on the outer loop, which is just to the northern part of this box.

00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:08.240
 We anticipate that EIS will cost the county about $10 million to bring somebody on to

00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:14.400
 clear that corridor from the county line all the way out to 35, and it's consistent with

00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:18.760
 Collin County's thoroughfare plan, Aubrey's thoroughfare plan.

00:22:18.760 --> 00:22:22.000
 I realize I was nodding without actually understanding.

00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:23.000
 EIS?

00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:24.000
 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:25.000
 Hopefully that's in your glossary.

00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:26.880
 Yeah, I'm sure it is.

00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:27.880
 Environmental impact statement.

00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:28.880
 Thank you.

00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:29.880
 Gotcha.

00:22:29.880 --> 00:22:33.840
 So you've got a categorical exclusion for environmental clearance, which is one of the

00:22:33.840 --> 00:22:34.840
 easiest.

00:22:34.840 --> 00:22:38.920
 Then you've got an environmental assessment, which is what normally we end up doing, but

00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:46.520
 on a very large project, they push you up to what's called an environmental impact statement,

00:22:46.520 --> 00:22:49.800
 which is what we've been told we have to do.

00:22:49.800 --> 00:22:55.440
 County line all the way to 35, consistent with where we pick it up at Collin County's

00:22:55.440 --> 00:23:00.960
 thoroughfare plan, consistent with Aubrey's and consistent with the City of Denton's thoroughfare

00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:05.640
 plan, where you all show the outer loop in your community, consistent with where the

00:23:05.640 --> 00:23:08.800
 Corps of Engineers tells us we have to cross the green belt.

00:23:08.800 --> 00:23:12.040
 There's only one place to let us cross, and it's at 428.

00:23:12.040 --> 00:23:14.640
 So we're going to start that.

00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:19.040
 We're going to meet with TechStat, and we're going to request them to do two things, start

00:23:19.040 --> 00:23:23.620
 on the 380, clear out the feasibility, because they're saying they're going to have this

00:23:23.620 --> 00:23:24.620
 meeting in the fall.

00:23:24.620 --> 00:23:30.440
 We'd want them to have this closeout meeting sooner than that, because to me, today's fall,

00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:33.920
 so they can do it tomorrow.

00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:38.720
 Close out this feasibility, and then start on the environmental clearance for 380 as

00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:46.080
 a freeway, and separately, because of the issues we're having with development on the

00:23:46.080 --> 00:23:51.000
 loop, start the environmental clearance for adding frontage roads on the loop, which is

00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:54.960
 needed because the development is being pushed on the loop.

00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:59.520
 So all that's on that little map right there that we're going to be pushing in the next

00:23:59.520 --> 00:24:00.520
 two weeks.

00:24:00.520 --> 00:24:01.520
 Questions?

00:24:01.520 --> 00:24:02.520
 Comments?

00:24:02.520 --> 00:24:03.520
 Concerns?

00:24:03.520 --> 00:24:04.520
 Cajoling?

00:24:04.520 --> 00:24:05.520
 Okay.

00:24:05.520 --> 00:24:09.800
 I will respond to hand signs.

00:24:09.800 --> 00:24:15.160
 I was just making a general face at my displeasure at the development of the loop, but that's

00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:16.160
 not your problem.

00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:17.160
 We've got some kind of radiation there.

00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:18.160
 Yeah.

00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:19.160
 All right.

00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:20.160
 Carry on.

00:24:20.160 --> 00:24:23.120
 So am I allowed to proceed?

00:24:23.120 --> 00:24:26.960
 Yeah, please, despite the council member's displeasure.

00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:27.960
 All right.

00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:36.200
 Loop 288 West, Chank Patel has been executed the contract, we are scheduling a kickoff

00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:37.200
 meeting.

00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:44.560
 We'll include city staff, because it is very important to your community as far as development

00:24:44.560 --> 00:24:45.880
 and setting that corridor.

00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:52.920
 We're doing the inside frontage road for sure, and depending on if we can get additional

00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:59.760
 money for this project with this Houston-Austin clawback, we may end up trying to shoot for

00:24:59.760 --> 00:25:07.360
 the whole enchilada, but we'll get you a schedule on what we think the timing is on the PS&A

00:25:07.360 --> 00:25:12.280
 and the actual completion of everything once we get them actual working.

00:25:12.280 --> 00:25:16.360
 And then we'll have regular updates on that that will be able to provide the city staff

00:25:16.360 --> 00:25:21.840
 that will show into your report where we are on the project.

00:25:21.840 --> 00:25:32.720
 Same same on 1515, we have LTRA under contract now, and we will, we had to do a little tweaking

00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:38.600
 because we changed the footprint after it was environmentally cleared at the western,

00:25:38.600 --> 00:25:46.640
 where it says FM 1515 here, we removed a traffic circle and we tweaked the alignment that Peter

00:25:46.640 --> 00:25:52.520
 built to accommodate some of their concerns, which required us to do a minor reevaluation

00:25:52.520 --> 00:25:54.880
 on the environmental assessment.

00:25:54.880 --> 00:26:00.160
 We're done with that pretty much, I mean, we've still got some of the procedural work

00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:07.280
 to do, but we're going to bring LTRA in with the city and the county and tech stock to

00:26:07.280 --> 00:26:10.920
 do a kickoff meeting, make sure we're all doing the right thing for the right reasons.

00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:14.880
 And once we know that, we'll have a better schedule for you.

00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:16.880
 Lins?

00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:22.340
 Of course.

00:26:22.340 --> 00:26:25.880
 So you know, I know that this is not a residential area that we're talking about.

00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:28.280
 But is there any?

00:26:28.280 --> 00:26:32.880
 Are there any, you know, maybe four foot sidewalks in the plan for this project?

00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:36.000
 Every road that the state builds now includes sidewalks.

00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:37.800
 Okay, so yes, all right.

00:26:37.800 --> 00:26:40.120
 The federal government required them.

00:26:40.120 --> 00:26:45.960
 And they used to require a 14 foot outside lane, and we finally explained to them, because

00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:51.840
 you got bike experts that show, explain that if you've got a 12 foot lane, the people who

00:26:51.840 --> 00:26:55.800
 know what they're doing on the bicycle ride in the middle of the lane, because it's safer.

00:26:55.800 --> 00:26:59.200
 So if you got a 14 foot lane, they're just going to ride in the middle of a 14 foot lane,

00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:00.200
 right?

00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:01.760
 So it doesn't do you anything.

00:27:01.760 --> 00:27:08.200
 So we finally, over 12 years and millions and millions of dollars, convinced them that

00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:09.200
 we were right.

00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:13.520
 So now we don't have to do the 14 foot outside lanes, but we still do the sidewalks.

00:27:13.520 --> 00:27:14.520
 Excellent.

00:27:14.520 --> 00:27:15.520
 All right.

00:27:15.520 --> 00:27:16.520
 I'm glad to hear that.

00:27:16.520 --> 00:27:17.520
 Thank you.

00:27:17.520 --> 00:27:18.520
 Okay.

00:27:18.520 --> 00:27:25.680
 1173 is one of those projects that we're also going out when we did the outer loop in September,

00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:30.400
 hopefully into September, for the outer loop, we're also going out the county is to do the

00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:32.600
 RFQ for 1173.

00:27:32.600 --> 00:27:37.840
 So the county will be hiring somebody to begin the design on this project.

00:27:37.840 --> 00:27:43.760
 The intent is if we can get it done in time, hopefully some of the money on 35 will just

00:27:43.760 --> 00:27:52.160
 dribble off and fall off on 1173, and we can get it constructed out to crumb.

00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:59.280
 And it's environmentally clear now as of August 26, so now we can protect the corridor.

00:27:59.280 --> 00:28:06.820
 We'll just skip it on the locusts, no, I'm kidding.

00:28:06.820 --> 00:28:15.760
 So we are working with TxDOT and your staff to figure out a way to solve at least from

00:28:15.760 --> 00:28:20.000
 the courthouse south now, because that's the part that's been, the utilities and drainage

00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:21.640
 has been done.

00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:27.720
 Travis is doing coring right now to determine what the heck is out there underground.

00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:29.920
 We kind of know what the pavement condition looks like.

00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:40.000
 We just need to know what the base looks like, and so we're going to get those cores, identify

00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:47.120
 the amount of the substructure that needs to be redone, and then we're going to come

00:28:47.120 --> 00:28:52.520
 back to city staff and we're going to talk it through from then.

00:28:52.520 --> 00:28:58.920
 And hopefully that's a quicker process than just doing a mill and overlay and then coming

00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:04.640
 back two years later when we have some other third way of getting it funded.

00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:12.480
 I have become accustomed to the kind of methodical pace of these large projects, but this is

00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:18.560
 so in the heart of the city and the businesses are bleeding.

00:29:18.560 --> 00:29:25.720
 Is there anything different that can be done in the way of concentrating resources to get

00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:26.720
 this done faster?

00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:29.920
 Well, Travis is your new area engineer.

00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:34.200
 He's been on the job I think less than a year now, right?

00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:35.200
 Three months.

00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:36.200
 Three months.

00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:37.200
 And he's breathed the fresh air.

00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:38.200
 Why aren't you done yet?

00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:39.200
 Huh?

00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:40.200
 You've had three months.

00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:42.400
 Why aren't we done yet?

00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:49.400
 And so what he's going to try to do is try to do that, where we combine.

00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:56.280
 So he's going to try to do, to do the bigger job, you really actually have to go to a different

00:29:56.280 --> 00:29:58.800
 pot of money, which requires a whole lot more effort.

00:29:58.800 --> 00:30:03.600
 What he's going to try to do is justify out of his maintenance budget.

00:30:03.600 --> 00:30:08.900
 And then what I've offered, because I know that the county is also interested in their

00:30:08.900 --> 00:30:16.000
 front door, is that once we find out if there's a delta on what he's able to do versus what

00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:22.160
 he needs to do to make everybody happy, that I just need to know a number and let us find

00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:24.960
 out what the art of the possible is.

00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:27.400
 That what you're asking us to do is what we're going to do.

00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:28.400
 Well, yeah.

00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:29.400
 I'll be encouraged to hear.

00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:34.600
 I'm encouraged that you're going after it, and I'm looking forward to hearing the breakthroughs

00:30:34.600 --> 00:30:35.600
 you came up with.

00:30:35.600 --> 00:30:42.440
 And I'm going to sit here and acknowledge that you heard a similar kind of urgency out

00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:48.280
 of Mobility Committee on the 35-380 situation, and you're very creative and came up with

00:30:48.280 --> 00:30:51.280
 a solve and had to find money to do it.

00:30:51.280 --> 00:30:56.040
 But January's looking almost like it's real.

00:30:56.040 --> 00:31:05.480
 So I'm hoping you can hit it out of the park again, Council Member Byrd.

00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:08.720
 I have a simple question.

00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:13.800
 You say that you're going to ... Those are the ones that hurt the most.

00:31:13.800 --> 00:31:15.960
 Just educational stuff.

00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:21.560
 You say that you're going to go and drill a core and see what's under there?

00:31:21.560 --> 00:31:23.800
 What does that look like to a lay person?

00:31:23.800 --> 00:31:26.360
 It looks like all those other holes that are out there.

00:31:26.360 --> 00:31:27.360
 Oh, okay.

00:31:27.360 --> 00:31:31.880
 So you're going to take a big ... I don't know if it's big, but it might be like that

00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:32.880
 big.

00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:33.880
 Oh, it's a little big.

00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:34.880
 We're going to core to see what's down there.

00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:39.520
 We're going to do it in random spots to see what's underneath the pavement.

00:31:39.520 --> 00:31:41.760
 So why do you need to know what's underneath the pavement?

00:31:41.760 --> 00:31:48.480
 Well, because we need to know if it's crappy, and if it is, then we've got to figure out

00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:50.520
 if it needs to be repaired or replaced.

00:31:50.520 --> 00:31:54.800
 Don't use that technical jargon on us.

00:31:54.800 --> 00:32:01.240
 So if the substructure is not up to standard, then we have to come in and do base repair

00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:08.000
 so that the base of the roadway will hold up to the traffic once you put the asphalt

00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:09.000
 on it.

00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:17.320
 So the asphalt just sets on the earth, and what it sets on determines how long the asphalt

00:32:17.320 --> 00:32:18.320
 lives.

00:32:18.320 --> 00:32:19.320
 Okay.

00:32:19.320 --> 00:32:20.320
 How's that?

00:32:20.320 --> 00:32:21.320
 Did I screw that up really bad?

00:32:21.320 --> 00:32:22.320
 You did a good job.

00:32:22.320 --> 00:32:30.480
 Because I was thinking that four is like taking a big back hole and going in.

00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:35.080
 No, that's called utilities and drainage.

00:32:35.080 --> 00:32:39.240
 Travis, if you want to understand the impact of not knowing what's under there, take a

00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:48.120
 drive on West Oak, west of Bradley, we'll talk about that one later.

00:32:48.120 --> 00:32:55.080
 So I think Travis and Becky, because this thing, like I said, this thing has been languishing

00:32:55.080 --> 00:33:01.920
 forever, and when Travis came on and Becky really grabbed it by the horns, that's when

00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:03.040
 things really started moving.

00:33:03.040 --> 00:33:10.440
 So you got two people that are really adamant to solve the problem, and I get the easy part

00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:11.440
 at the end.

00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:12.440
 So.

00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:13.440
 Okay.

00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:14.440
 We're really counting on you.

00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:15.440
 Thank you.

00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:18.440
 Money's always the easy part.

00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:19.440
 Okay.

00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:20.440
 Council Member McQuarrie.

00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:21.440
 Thanks.

00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.680
 I apologize because I think that you might have answered this in our last meeting, but

00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:29.400
 I just want to clarify, so TechStat is responsible for the section of Eagle Drive that's between

00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.440
 Elm and Locust.

00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:39.360
 Is there any other section of Eagle that TechStat is responsible for, or is the city responsible

00:33:39.360 --> 00:33:40.360
 for everything?

00:33:40.360 --> 00:33:41.360
 Yeah, that's it.

00:33:41.360 --> 00:33:42.360
 That's it.

00:33:42.360 --> 00:33:43.360
 Just that little section.

00:33:43.360 --> 00:33:44.360
 Okay.

00:33:44.360 --> 00:33:49.920
 So what we're trying to do in phases is once we get this to a certain standard that is

00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:55.960
 to your liking, it'll come off system so that you guys can do with it what you want in a

00:33:55.960 --> 00:34:03.160
 more of a community, comprehensive, complete street, context sensitive manner as opposed

00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:05.560
 to what the state will allow you to do.

00:34:05.560 --> 00:34:06.560
 Yeah, great.

00:34:06.560 --> 00:34:10.320
 And I'm very much looking forward to that, no offense.

00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:15.400
 I have a question that I think is probably best answered by Becky.

00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:22.600
 So I know that a lot of residents and business owners in this area, particularly on Elm have

00:34:22.600 --> 00:34:26.440
 reached out and I believe you've had some conversations.

00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:30.440
 Could you give us an update, or maybe your staff has had conversations, can you give

00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:39.400
 us an update on what your department intends to do in the future as far as communication

00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:40.400
 with...

00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:45.720
 Pardon me, Council Member, actually it's on the next item, Elm and Locust traffic public

00:34:45.720 --> 00:34:46.720
 outreach.

00:34:46.720 --> 00:34:47.720
 Okay, nevermind.

00:34:47.720 --> 00:34:48.720
 Sorry.

00:34:48.720 --> 00:34:49.720
 I'll wait.

00:34:49.720 --> 00:34:50.720
 Yes.

00:34:50.720 --> 00:34:51.720
 On agenda order.

00:34:51.720 --> 00:34:52.720
 Okay.

00:34:52.720 --> 00:34:53.720
 All right.

00:34:53.720 --> 00:34:54.720
 Now we're primed for it.

00:34:54.720 --> 00:34:55.720
 Okay.

00:34:55.720 --> 00:34:56.720
 Sorry.

00:34:56.720 --> 00:34:57.720
 I'll hold my horses.

00:34:57.720 --> 00:35:04.240
 So I'm gonna check to see if the IAS is on here, and it's not, so I'll add that.

00:35:04.240 --> 00:35:09.080
 It should be right after environmental assessment, so we'll add that.

00:35:09.080 --> 00:35:12.000
 Learn something new every day.

00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:17.000
 It's a growing, it's a living document.

00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:18.000
 That's all I have.

00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:22.560
 Again, I'd like y'all, if you haven't met Travis Kimball, and I don't know if you're

00:35:22.560 --> 00:35:23.840
 gonna do that, Becky, but...

00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:24.840
 We're about to meet him.

00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:25.840
 He's the best man.

00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:27.840
 We can't meet him until we call the item or we meet him.

00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:28.840
 All right.

00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:29.840
 I'm done.

00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:30.840
 Thanks, John.

00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:31.840
 Great report.

00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:32.840
 Do I leave this here, or...

00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:33.840
 I don't even know what this is.

00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:34.840
 It's your report.

00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:35.840
 You can probably take it down.

00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:38.840
 You know, I'll put it back on the Denton logo.

00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:50.280
 This looks better.

00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:57.720
 Okay.

00:35:57.720 --> 00:36:01.080
 I'm calling item B. Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding the City of Denton

00:36:01.080 --> 00:36:03.960
 staff update regarding a number of items.

00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:08.000
 That begins with introducing Travis Kimball.

00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:09.000
 Thank you very much.

00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:14.440
 Yes, Travis, we would like to take an opportunity to have him introduce himself.

00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:19.720
 As Travis mentioned, he's been with the Textot Area Office as the area engineer for about

00:36:19.720 --> 00:36:23.280
 three months, but has worked for Textot for a number of years.

00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:26.360
 And so just wanted you to get familiar with him.

00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:31.880
 We've had a really great time over the last three months working on a lot of things together

00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:38.320
 and appreciate the partnership and collaboration that Textot is willing to have, and really

00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:39.800
 look forward to a lot of the projects.

00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:42.960
 As you see, they have a lot of projects that are going on within the city.

00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:46.560
 And we know it's very important that our teams work together.

00:36:46.560 --> 00:36:49.960
 So with that, I'll turn it over to Travis and let him introduce himself.

00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:50.960
 Thank you, Becky.

00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:51.960
 I appreciate it.

00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:54.520
 I appreciate the invite from Becky to come this morning.

00:36:54.520 --> 00:36:55.520
 I'll just quickly...

00:36:55.520 --> 00:36:56.520
 My name is Travis Kimball.

00:36:56.520 --> 00:36:59.680
 I work for Textot, Denton County Area Engineer.

00:36:59.680 --> 00:37:01.480
 Started June 1st up here.

00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:05.400
 I've been with the department a little over 12 years.

00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:08.960
 I've worked in design down in Mesquite in our roadway design section.

00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:12.440
 I've worked in construction in Collin County for several years.

00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:17.880
 My most recent hire to that was working in our project delivery office down in Mesquite,

00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:19.400
 managing our large mobility.

00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.560
 A lot of the projects on the list was my group.

00:37:22.560 --> 00:37:26.120
 We were managing the development and the planning of those things.

00:37:26.120 --> 00:37:32.640
 Our hydraulics group were in my section, and we also had schematics and local LED.

00:37:32.640 --> 00:37:35.560
 So a large assortment of type of projects.

00:37:35.560 --> 00:37:39.480
 I've had the pleasure of working with John for several years on a lot of these projects.

00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:42.720
 We've delivered some tough ones in Denton County.

00:37:42.720 --> 00:37:46.680
 So new as the area engineer, but definitely not new to Denton County.

00:37:46.680 --> 00:37:50.000
 Very familiar with the big projects we've got coming up here.

00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:55.320
 Very familiar with the growth in Denton County, especially the city of Denton, and know what

00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:57.200
 we need and how we can deliver it.

00:37:57.200 --> 00:38:02.720
 So I'm really looking forward to working with you members of the council, continue working

00:38:02.720 --> 00:38:03.720
 with Becky.

00:38:03.720 --> 00:38:07.920
 Becky's got my cell phone number any time she needs anything and vice versa.

00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.400
 We've got a very open line of communication.

00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:11.400
 Same thing with ITS.

00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:16.240
 I've worked with them for many years, and so looking forward to continuing that relationship

00:38:16.240 --> 00:38:17.240
 as well.

00:38:17.240 --> 00:38:19.440
 So we've got a lot to do.

00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:23.800
 We've got a lot of projects to clear, and we want to get on the ground running.

00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:28.880
 We've got that project starting Friday, which was a huge win, I think, for TxDOT in the

00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:31.080
 city and all the residents in the area.

00:38:31.080 --> 00:38:35.080
 It's a much needed interim fix while we wait on that larger project to come.

00:38:35.080 --> 00:38:40.640
 So I think that's basically all I've got, unless I'm happy to take any questions while

00:38:40.640 --> 00:38:41.640
 I'm here.

00:38:41.640 --> 00:38:45.400
 But just, again, looking forward to working with everybody and continuing the partnerships

00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:46.400
 that we've already got going.

00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:54.360
 So the one thing I would add to that is I would tell you we would meet quarterly with

00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:57.800
 TxDOT on all these projects to make sure they kept moving.

00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:01.800
 When we would meet quarterly back in the day, we were meeting with him.

00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:02.800
 Yes.

00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:03.800
 That was me.

00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:09.880
 Well, I really want to welcome you, and I've got to tell you, Travis, until now TxDOT

00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:16.360
 has seemed to me to be this big faceless entity, so at least now I know what the eyes of TxDOT

00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:17.360
 look like.

00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:18.360
 That's us.

00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:22.600
 If it's Denton County, it's me, so feel free to call any time.

00:39:22.600 --> 00:39:23.600
 All right.

00:39:23.600 --> 00:39:26.480
 Thank you so much for visiting.

00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:29.760
 Thank you all very much for inviting me today.

00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:30.760
 Thank you, Travis.

00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:31.760
 All righty.

00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:36.840
 So as we move along on the staff memo, the next item that we were going to talk about

00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:38.360
 is the speeding concerns.

00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:43.680
 So as you can see in your memorandum, there were questions about speeding concerns along

00:39:43.680 --> 00:39:48.640
 Pennsylvania Drive from Ridgecrest Circle to Woodbrook Street.

00:39:48.640 --> 00:39:53.160
 Staff did collect data in September of 2020, and the results showed that the roadway did

00:39:53.160 --> 00:39:57.360
 not warrant any traffic calming measures at the time.

00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:02.520
 Since the previous analysis was conducted during COVID, staff is going to be reevaluating

00:40:02.520 --> 00:40:07.640
 the location the week of September 21st, so that's next week, and then staff will develop

00:40:07.640 --> 00:40:14.840
 a plan once the results are available and provide those details in a future Friday report.

00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:22.040
 The next item on speeding concerns was Moore Street, and from June 6th to June 14th of

00:40:22.040 --> 00:40:28.520
 2021, staff conducted a speed study on Moore Street and found that 12.9 percent of drivers

00:40:28.520 --> 00:40:35.520
 going eastbound and 18.7 percent of drivers going westbound were speeding.

00:40:35.520 --> 00:40:41.440
 Based on these results, there were measures speeding on Moore Street.

00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:46.000
 So staff has been working with the police department to increase enforcement based on

00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:47.840
 the results received.

00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:53.600
 In this area, we've also worked with the PD to deploy what we call driver feedback signs.

00:40:53.600 --> 00:40:59.480
 So what that is is when you're driving, you actually will see a detection that shows if

00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:03.920
 the speed limit is 30 miles per hour, it will show you're going 37 miles per hour, and it's

00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:10.400
 a recollection, so individuals understand the speed they're actually going in this area,

00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:14.480
 and we're going to be working on that to notify residents of their actual speed, and we'll

00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:19.580
 be reevaluating this segment in six months, and we're currently evaluating the use of

00:41:19.580 --> 00:41:21.920
 additional signage in the area.

00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:24.920
 One of the things that staff has actually looked at is how many speed limit signs are

00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:26.840
 actually along Moore Street.

00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:33.760
 It's a wider cross-section, it also includes a hill, and so individuals are actually, based

00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:37.600
 on the data you can see, they're actually speeding in this area, so it's very much an

00:41:37.600 --> 00:41:42.160
 area that we're looking at what are some additional things that can be done, and evaluating the

00:41:42.160 --> 00:41:46.840
 number of signs on this street, so we're looking at the use of additional signage in this area

00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:49.320
 for speed limit signs.

00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:53.800
 And then the third street that we actually looked at was Lakey Street, and staff conducted

00:41:53.800 --> 00:42:00.460
 speed studies along Lakey, south of Wilson Street, from June 8th to June 14th.

00:42:00.460 --> 00:42:07.040
 Based on those results, about 1.4% of drivers were speeding, and staff noted and shared

00:42:07.040 --> 00:42:12.120
 the data with PD to increase enforcement based on the results received in this area.

00:42:12.120 --> 00:42:17.080
 So I'm going to, are there any questions specifically about the speeding concerns before I go to

00:42:17.080 --> 00:42:18.080
 the next item?

00:42:18.080 --> 00:42:23.680
 - Council Member Byrd?

00:42:23.680 --> 00:42:35.040
 - My particular concern is for Moore Street, and then I'll add Curly Street onto this conversation.

00:42:35.040 --> 00:42:44.840
 I know that we're doing, you're saying something about police enforcement, and it just seems

00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:49.520
 like it could be something else done more than police enforcement.

00:42:49.520 --> 00:42:57.240
 I know that I've driven that street, and there is not very much signage on Moore Street as

00:42:57.240 --> 00:43:01.960
 well as Curly Street.

00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:13.360
 The tool that you're using to notify drivers of their speed is so close to the stop sign,

00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:18.240
 a driver would be practically slowing down to stop.

00:43:18.240 --> 00:43:22.400
 It's gotta be less than 50 yards.

00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:30.440
 So I purposely went, made a right turn to go west, I'm sorry, yeah, to go west on Moore

00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:38.200
 Street, and immediately came upon the sign, and then just another 50 yards there, you're

00:43:38.200 --> 00:43:40.440
 stopping at a stop sign.

00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:46.960
 So I would certainly move that to maybe the center of that roadway, since it's such a

00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:50.640
 long, wide road.

00:43:50.640 --> 00:43:58.520
 I don't think that it will just give enough information to the drivers that are smoothly

00:43:58.520 --> 00:44:01.400
 going down the road.

00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:07.600
 I do know that there's not, it just looked like there was only a couple of speed signs,

00:44:07.600 --> 00:44:11.960
 one at the beginning of the road and one towards the end of the road, and not one in the middle

00:44:11.960 --> 00:44:13.560
 of the road.

00:44:13.560 --> 00:44:21.040
 There's a bushy street that intersects that roadway, I thought that that might be a great

00:44:21.040 --> 00:44:27.240
 opportunity to put a slow down sign there, or a stop sign, I don't know how it will work,

00:44:27.240 --> 00:44:30.720
 but it sits in the center of that road there.

00:44:30.720 --> 00:44:35.680
 So we've been having a lot of complaints for a number of years about that roadway from

00:44:35.680 --> 00:44:39.960
 that community, and I'm just really glad to see that there's some attention being paid

00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:42.160
 to it now.

00:44:42.160 --> 00:44:48.880
 The other thing is that I just happen to be on Woodrow, is that Woodrow, yeah that's Woodrow,

00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:57.040
 that's in front of North Lakes Park, that is Woodrow, it's a long road that goes, Windsor,

00:44:57.040 --> 00:45:06.080
 Windsor, where did I go, Windsor, and I think that that's a great opportunity for us to

00:45:06.080 --> 00:45:11.680
 possibly look at the way that that road is striped, it does have room, because it's such

00:45:11.680 --> 00:45:20.140
 a wide road, it has room for maybe an area for parking, and then it had the bike lanes

00:45:20.140 --> 00:45:29.200
 on the inside, and then it had pretty much a one lane to drive, but it also had a turn

00:45:29.200 --> 00:45:37.880
 lane in the middle, and would you all connect that Woodrow, sorry say it again, what was

00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:47.600
 that road I was trying to think of, Windsor, to see maybe if that style of play could work

00:45:47.600 --> 00:45:54.280
 on Moore Street, where there's, it's just, we need to narrow, I think we just need to

00:45:54.280 --> 00:46:00.600
 calm that road down quite a bit, and if we're talking about some parking, and then some

00:46:00.600 --> 00:46:05.080
 bike lanes, because we have, it shows we have bike lanes, but of course they're worn out,

00:46:05.080 --> 00:46:10.760
 you can't see the bike lanes, it just says share the road, and then have the middle lane

00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:17.280
 as turn lanes that might be helpful, just offering some, you know, just some thoughts

00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:23.880
 on that, as well as Curly Street, that road, Moore Street doesn't even have sidewalks,

00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:30.160
 and I know the kids from Tomas Rivera, they're having to walk down that road to get to their

00:46:30.160 --> 00:46:35.320
 little neighborhood, so that's also part of the concern, I do know that we're going to

00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:43.360
 be doing some utility work on that road, so I'm just trying to connect the timeline for,

00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:51.480
 is it worth the effort to do all of the striping and, you know, possible suggestions before

00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:58.760
 we get to the utility work under that road, is all of that, does that sound feasible to

00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:05.000
 put all of that energy into it now, and then we're going to pull that road up, and do the

00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:06.440
 utility work?

00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:07.440
 Talk to me about that.

00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:13.120
 Sure, no, I appreciate the feedback, definitely we'll work with the police department to look

00:47:13.120 --> 00:47:18.960
 at where the driver feedback sign is deployed, to see if there's a better location for that,

00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:24.220
 we don't mind looking into that at all, I appreciate the feedback on Windsor as an example

00:47:24.220 --> 00:47:29.840
 of the type of roadway that you're envisioning for Moore Street, I will tell you that we

00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:34.560
 will want to coordinate with the 2019 bond program projects, just because we don't want

00:47:34.560 --> 00:47:38.600
 to put something down that's going to be torn up, but if there's a gap of time that's going

00:47:38.600 --> 00:47:44.640
 to be more substantial than what's anticipated, or work that's not going to be done on one

00:47:44.640 --> 00:47:48.160
 of those particular streets, then that's something we can evaluate.

00:47:48.160 --> 00:47:54.520
 In your last Friday report that we also produced, we've already worked with the police department

00:47:54.520 --> 00:47:58.920
 and then our traffic operations department, Chandra, our senior traffic engineer, has

00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:03.680
 worked to look at locations, and we're going to be installing some additional speed limit

00:48:03.680 --> 00:48:08.000
 signs along Moore Street to help with some of that also, I believe there were only a

00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:12.480
 couple of signs, and we felt like that there could be some increased number of signs in

00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:16.300
 that area also, just to notify drivers, like you mentioned, it's a wide street and a rather

00:48:16.300 --> 00:48:21.240
 long street, just to notify them so that they're not going a long period of time without actually

00:48:21.240 --> 00:48:25.920
 having a sign for their knowledge and for their use.

00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:32.240
 But happy to look into Windsor, I will tell you there are more things happening on Windsor

00:48:32.240 --> 00:48:37.960
 due west of that location, with the 35 project, and then also some of the plans for that future

00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:43.960
 Westgate and Windsor area, but I think you brought up some valid concerns and some ideas,

00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:49.880
 and so happy to look into those things, what I will do is work to add that to a future

00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:55.080
 agenda item and bring that back for you, and we'll also bring back an update on the signs

00:48:55.080 --> 00:48:59.680
 that are deployed on Moore Street, evaluate curly to see if there's anything additional,

00:48:59.680 --> 00:49:03.760
 and I know we've provided some of that information previously, see if there's anything additional

00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:09.400
 that needs to be done, and then look at what could happen to Morris, maybe one of the things

00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:14.720
 that has been talked about before, and this may be kind of where your thoughts are, is

00:49:14.720 --> 00:49:19.920
 a more of a roadway diet type project, and so definitely something that we're willing

00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:22.200
 to look into, just want to make sure we're coordinating.

00:49:22.200 --> 00:49:26.240
 As you mentioned, we don't want to put something down that could be torn back up, so I appreciate

00:49:26.240 --> 00:49:30.640
 you bringing those forward, and definitely we'll add that to our future agenda item to

00:49:30.640 --> 00:49:31.640
 the next meeting.

00:49:31.640 --> 00:49:42.940
 Sir, I have one more question, do we have children at play signs, or watch for kids,

00:49:42.940 --> 00:49:50.560
 or I see some of those somewhere, are the communities putting those out, or do the cities

00:49:50.560 --> 00:49:56.080
 coordinate reminding drivers that children are in the area?

00:49:56.080 --> 00:50:01.120
 Sure, so we have several different types of signs, and actually the traffic operations

00:50:01.120 --> 00:50:06.880
 department notified me that starting October 1, they're going to be doing a 5-year program

00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:12.980
 to do those regulatory signs, and that's really all over the city as a replacement and installation

00:50:12.980 --> 00:50:18.240
 of those regulatory signs, and then the next 5 years, they're going to be looking at doing

00:50:18.240 --> 00:50:25.680
 some of those more warning type signs, but due to the fact that the MLK Recreation Center

00:50:25.680 --> 00:50:31.520
 is located very close to that at Thomas Riviera, I'm happy to work with the traffic operations

00:50:31.520 --> 00:50:35.400
 department and our traffic engineering to see if there's additional signs that could

00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:39.360
 be added, such as what you're speaking about, just due to the fact that there are a lot

00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:44.560
 of children in that area that are working to make their way either to school or to the

00:50:44.560 --> 00:50:50.400
 recreation center, so we're happy to look into those, and those are signs that we do

00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:59.880
 capture and deploy.

00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:02.320
 We can skip the next item.

00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:03.620
 The next item we're going to skip?

00:51:03.620 --> 00:51:04.620
 No, I'm just kidding.

00:51:04.620 --> 00:51:08.280
 I was going to say, you're going to give me a free pass on that?

00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:09.280
 No, I'm kidding.

00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:13.920
 Okay, so the next item is the latest OCI number for West Oak between Bradley and Thomas Street.

00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:20.960
 So the new overall condition score for Bradley between Thomas Street, but Oak Street between

00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.260
 Bradley and Thomas is 49.

00:51:23.260 --> 00:51:27.880
 This compares to 77, which was the score for the same segment in 2015.

00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:30.560
 So obviously, the score has decreased.

00:51:30.560 --> 00:51:35.600
 I know it's very much something that you're interested in, as I know that there were concerns

00:51:35.600 --> 00:51:38.360
 with the actual construction of that area.

00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:44.240
 Was this like a stunning bit of news?

00:51:44.240 --> 00:51:49.140
 Did this give you new information to find out that it scored well?

00:51:49.140 --> 00:51:51.360
 I don't believe it's stunning information.

00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:54.520
 I mean, I understand and drive the roadway myself.

00:51:54.520 --> 00:51:55.520
 I understand the concern.

00:51:55.520 --> 00:51:56.520
 Yeah, it's okay.

00:51:56.520 --> 00:51:57.520
 All right.

00:51:57.520 --> 00:51:58.520
 Just checking, making sure we're...

00:51:58.520 --> 00:51:59.520
 No, sir.

00:51:59.520 --> 00:52:00.520
 We're on the same wavelength.

00:52:00.520 --> 00:52:01.520
 Yes, sir.

00:52:01.520 --> 00:52:02.520
 Okay.

00:52:02.520 --> 00:52:03.520
 Sorry, carry on.

00:52:03.520 --> 00:52:04.520
 No, you're fine.

00:52:04.520 --> 00:52:07.720
 But I think really what the next steps are to look at what could happen in this area,

00:52:07.720 --> 00:52:12.000
 as I mentioned before, some of the testing methods, and John was just talking about one

00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:14.120
 of them with the coring that's being done.

00:52:14.120 --> 00:52:20.160
 That's a testing method to look at the actual geotechnical determination below the roadway

00:52:20.160 --> 00:52:21.160
 surface.

00:52:21.160 --> 00:52:25.520
 And so this is definitely a street that due to the fact that the OCI has decreased, it'll

00:52:25.520 --> 00:52:30.440
 be something that's going to be evaluated as part of a replacement program.

00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:32.120
 What I have known to date is it's not...

00:52:32.120 --> 00:52:36.440
 I'm not aware of a program that it's currently on, but something that we will continue to

00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:39.580
 work with the streets department to see if it's something that can be added.

00:52:39.580 --> 00:52:42.680
 And I do realize that it was just recently replaced in that area.

00:52:42.680 --> 00:52:43.680
 Yeah.

00:52:43.680 --> 00:52:44.680
 I mean, we know all the facts.

00:52:44.680 --> 00:52:51.920
 It's just, you know, for all the resurfacing and reconstruction going on in the city, for

00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:57.240
 something that egregious, you know, not to be able to make it on a list is just baffling

00:52:57.240 --> 00:52:58.240
 to me.

00:52:58.240 --> 00:53:03.040
 So I'm very hopeful that you'll crack that nut.

00:53:03.040 --> 00:53:04.040
 Sure.

00:53:04.040 --> 00:53:05.940
 No, I appreciate that.

00:53:05.940 --> 00:53:09.640
 And we will definitely work with the streets department and see if there's anything additional

00:53:09.640 --> 00:53:11.240
 that can happen in that area.

00:53:11.240 --> 00:53:14.800
 So appreciate you bringing that to our attention.

00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:19.880
 The next item we're going to talk about is really their proactive traffic safety measures.

00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:24.880
 So in the July 30th Friday report, we talked about the, and this was a request that came

00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:30.620
 up from the last meeting, the citywide speed reduction and some of the questions resulting

00:53:30.620 --> 00:53:31.620
 in that.

00:53:31.620 --> 00:53:37.600
 So on June 28th, council member Beck inquired about the speed reduction strategies and the

00:53:37.600 --> 00:53:43.600
 way, you know, that staff could be more proactive in identifying areas where speeding is a concern.

00:53:43.600 --> 00:53:47.160
 And we just talked about a couple that council member McGuire brought up.

00:53:47.160 --> 00:53:49.560
 I'm sorry, council member Bird brought up.

00:53:49.560 --> 00:53:53.840
 So currently speed studies are being conducted on an as requested basis.

00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:59.660
 With school starting, you know, and this is when it was put in the July 30th report.

00:53:59.660 --> 00:54:04.680
 So with school about to start and the traffic patterns normalizing, then staff will reinitiate

00:54:04.680 --> 00:54:08.120
 efforts for that citywide speed study in the fall.

00:54:08.120 --> 00:54:11.480
 And then we've already began that and we see two of the individuals in the audience today

00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:12.800
 that are working on that.

00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:18.760
 One is our senior planner, bicycle ADA, pedestrian coordinator, and then also our senior traffic

00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:19.760
 engineer.

00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:27.840
 And when we begin working on moving forward with a citywide speed study, we will be bringing

00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:34.120
 back to you on September 28th during the council presentation, the mobility plan, and it will

00:54:34.120 --> 00:54:37.560
 touch the surface of some of the different measures that we're doing, whether they're

00:54:37.560 --> 00:54:43.040
 traffic safety measures, whether they're measures specifically related to bicycle and pedestrian,

00:54:43.040 --> 00:54:45.320
 or whether they're project-related measures.

00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:48.840
 And so you'll see some of that within the mobility plan, but really this is just to

00:54:48.840 --> 00:54:55.320
 let you know that we are moving forward with that citywide speed study.

00:54:55.320 --> 00:54:59.600
 We feel like we have all of the individuals in the right seats on the bus so that we can

00:54:59.600 --> 00:55:00.600
 move forward.

00:55:00.600 --> 00:55:01.600
 - Council Member McQuarrie.

00:55:01.600 --> 00:55:02.600
 Sorry, go ahead.

00:55:02.600 --> 00:55:03.600
 - Sorry, first.

00:55:03.600 --> 00:55:04.600
 - Come on now.

00:55:04.600 --> 00:55:05.600
 There we go.

00:55:05.600 --> 00:55:14.920
 So I'm just curious to know a little bit more about the speed study and what that's gonna

00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:15.920
 look like.

00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:21.240
 Is this primarily like a paper and pencil exercise, or are there gonna be staff like

00:55:21.240 --> 00:55:26.160
 out on the streets with radars and taking speed measurements?

00:55:26.160 --> 00:55:27.160
 How does this work?

00:55:27.160 --> 00:55:28.160
 - Sure.

00:55:28.160 --> 00:55:35.480
 I'm gonna ask Chandra to come down and describe to you the actual study and let him describe

00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:37.680
 to you some of the next efforts.

00:55:37.680 --> 00:55:41.800
 We know it's gonna take some time to collect data, and so he can describe those things

00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:42.800
 to you.

00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:43.800
 - Good morning.

00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:47.880
 This is Chandra with Traffic Engineering.

00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:53.240
 Citywide speed study, how we do is we select the corridors that are throughout the city,

00:55:53.240 --> 00:56:00.280
 and we have contracted with CJ Henge, and they use video cameras, and wherever it cannot

00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:06.560
 be done, they use those tubes laid out on the street, and they get speeds in different

00:56:06.560 --> 00:56:10.120
 sections so we can see the pattern.

00:56:10.120 --> 00:56:16.960
 And from there on, we get the data back, either like video or Excel spreadsheets, so we can

00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:21.600
 interpret it and make appropriate changes in the field.

00:56:21.600 --> 00:56:22.600
 - Thank you.

00:56:22.600 --> 00:56:24.000
 And a follow-up question.

00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:31.320
 Is it sort of gonna be like random streets being studied, or can you speak to which streets

00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:32.320
 are gonna be studied?

00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:39.120
 - We will be selecting based on the speed requests or issues that we got in the past,

00:56:39.120 --> 00:56:43.440
 and also proactively we select a lot of corridors.

00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:48.320
 Pretty much the citywide arterial collectors, not much on the residential streets, except

00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:51.440
 if there is any past issues that we had.

00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:52.440
 - Okay.

00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:53.440
 Thank you.

00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:54.440
 - You're welcome.

00:56:54.440 --> 00:56:56.040
 - Did you have a question?

00:56:56.040 --> 00:56:58.440
 - Yeah, Council Member Rupert.

00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:07.040
 - How is it determined what speed a street would be?

00:57:07.040 --> 00:57:14.120
 - The collector streets get more priorities, arterials, and residential streets that make

00:57:14.120 --> 00:57:21.000
 more like a longer length, like where it has the possibility for driving faster and things

00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:22.000
 like that.

00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:24.600
 We have those metrics, we go by.

00:57:24.600 --> 00:57:35.400
 - So if a neighborhood says that their street at 30 miles per hour is too high, can they

00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:44.040
 petition the city to bring the street speed down five miles per hour, if they like to,

00:57:44.040 --> 00:57:45.400
 collectively?

00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:50.720
 - In the state of Texas, the premature speed limit, which is the default speed limit, is

00:57:50.720 --> 00:57:52.640
 30 miles per hour.

00:57:52.640 --> 00:58:00.040
 If there is any safety issues that's been already there, like crashes or severe injuries

00:58:00.040 --> 00:58:08.000
 or fatalities, we can take a look at it, and we have room to adjust lower to speed limits

00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:16.560
 to 25, but not everywhere, except if it poses an unsafety issue out there.

00:58:16.560 --> 00:58:21.320
 And schools are generally, in those school zones, it's 20 miles per hour.

00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:24.120
 And hospital areas are 25.

00:58:24.120 --> 00:58:30.840
 Those are already being taken into account, and the Texas Transportation Court provides

00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:34.040
 those provisions for those special conditions.

00:58:34.040 --> 00:58:35.280
 - Okay.

00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:39.560
 So just a general complaint that, oh, they're going too fast down my street, can you lower

00:58:39.560 --> 00:58:41.000
 the speed limit?

00:58:41.000 --> 00:58:46.120
 Doesn't necessarily, it has to have provisions to be done, because that question has been

00:58:46.120 --> 00:58:47.120
 asked to me.

00:58:47.120 --> 00:58:56.120
 - 30 is the, if there is a sign, or there is no sign, 30 is the state's residential

00:58:56.120 --> 00:58:57.120
 speed limits.

00:58:57.120 --> 00:58:58.120
 - Okay.

00:58:58.120 --> 00:59:02.520
 - And if there is any safety issues, we can address those with the countermeasures that's

00:59:02.520 --> 00:59:03.520
 appropriate.

00:59:03.520 --> 00:59:04.520
 - Thank you.

00:59:04.520 --> 00:59:05.520
 - Sure, welcome.

00:59:05.520 --> 00:59:08.400
 - And Council Member Burt, I would just add to that, that's where we can deploy measures

00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:13.800
 such as our speed studies to actually evaluate the individual street to see if there are

00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:14.800
 concerns.

00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:21.960
 But we do our best to follow the codes, and the criteria, and the traffic manual documents

00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:24.000
 that are state-forward, state-wide.

00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:27.920
 So we're very much interested in getting this speed study completed.

00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:31.720
 And there are some individual streets that, you know, whether we've received the speed

00:59:31.720 --> 00:59:35.960
 study complaints, we'll also be hand-selecting, as Chandra mentioned, some of the other areas

00:59:35.960 --> 00:59:40.920
 that are arteriolus collectors that we know, you know, there are concerns, or areas where

00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:44.960
 we just want to have that as a part of the evaluation due to the amount of traffic that's

00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:45.960
 on that area.

00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:46.960
 So.

00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:55.120
 - What is the percentage that you have to get to bring a level of concern?

00:59:55.120 --> 00:59:57.520
 - I would say that that's really on a case-by-case basis.

00:59:57.520 --> 00:59:59.440
 Chandra, I don't know if you want to speak to that.

00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:00.440
 - Sure.

01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:04.880
 Usually in the state of Texas, it's the 85th percentile.

01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:11.700
 At least, say, 85 percent of the drivers, what they drive the speed would be the natural

01:00:11.700 --> 01:00:16.080
 speed on those streets, and there could be the rest 15 percent which could be driving

01:00:16.080 --> 01:00:21.840
 either slower, or they could be driving faster, but we target for those 85 percentile.

01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:29.920
 And we have, but the codes, we have plus or minus five miles from those 85 percentile.

01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:35.160
 We have the leverage to adjust it.

01:00:35.160 --> 01:00:39.040
 - Thank you, Chandra.

01:00:39.040 --> 01:00:43.240
 So I'm going to move on to item number seven because Mr. Polster and Mr. Campbell need

01:00:43.240 --> 01:00:44.840
 to leave for another meeting.

01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:50.140
 So I'm going to skip the next couple, and then I'm going to work towards talking real

01:00:50.140 --> 01:00:52.020
 quickly about Elm and Locust.

01:00:52.020 --> 01:00:55.560
 So I know there was a question earlier from Council Member McGuire specifically related

01:00:55.560 --> 01:00:59.240
 to Elm and Locust and the public outreach.

01:00:59.240 --> 01:01:04.880
 And I think Travis mentioned this, John has mentioned this, I also will echo that we've

01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:09.680
 been coordinating with TXDOT on a very regular basis to address the roadway condition of

01:01:09.680 --> 01:01:15.520
 Elm and Locust, and that would all be due south of the courthouse where the Pecan Creek

01:01:15.520 --> 01:01:20.800
 Phase Four project was that was a utility relocation reconstruction project for both

01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:24.160
 water sewer and a drainage installation.

01:01:24.160 --> 01:01:29.140
 And over the past month, staff has conducted weekly meetings with TXDOT area to discuss

01:01:29.140 --> 01:01:30.600
 that path forward.

01:01:30.600 --> 01:01:35.440
 There's been a lot of public outreach by the project manager who is now a program manager,

01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:38.360
 but he has had lots of conversations.

01:01:38.360 --> 01:01:41.800
 I know TXDOT also has had conversations.

01:01:41.800 --> 01:01:47.640
 We anticipate having those next steps identified as Travis mentioned and John mentioned they're

01:01:47.640 --> 01:01:52.600
 doing the coring right now to really look at what is the replacement measures that can

01:01:52.600 --> 01:01:56.120
 be made in that area and what needs to happen with that roadway.

01:01:56.120 --> 01:02:01.840
 Obviously, we all know it needs to be reconstructed, but as was mentioned, they need the data to

01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:06.440
 actually be able to see what type of surface that needs to be replaced and what those improvement

01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:08.120
 measures are.

01:02:08.120 --> 01:02:12.240
 We actually have work to schedule and Travis will be on that call with us.

01:02:12.240 --> 01:02:14.240
 There's going to be a meeting.

01:02:14.240 --> 01:02:19.600
 It's going to be a virtual downtown community meeting on October 14th.

01:02:19.600 --> 01:02:22.280
 And that's where the improvement measures will be discussed.

01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:28.080
 It's hopeful that we'll have the data back by that time and we may not, and if we don't,

01:02:28.080 --> 01:02:33.920
 we will find that opportunity to inform the public at a later date, but really just wanted

01:02:33.920 --> 01:02:39.600
 to have that opportunity to bring forward anyone in that area who has questions or concerns

01:02:39.600 --> 01:02:43.880
 and have representatives from the city and also TXDOT on the same call so that we could

01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:47.760
 talk about Elm and Locust and the concerns that have been raised.

01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:51.560
 I will tell you that our staff is committed to answering and being a part of any of the

01:02:51.560 --> 01:02:54.320
 questions or concerns that come up.

01:02:54.320 --> 01:03:00.240
 We have had questions and concerns that have arisen, and I know that our staff has been

01:03:00.240 --> 01:03:04.480
 very much active in meeting with those individuals, even meeting on site with those individuals

01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:06.320
 and talking through those concerns.

01:03:06.320 --> 01:03:08.080
 So I look forward to that meeting.

01:03:08.080 --> 01:03:12.240
 It's about a month away where we're going to have that opportunity to really discuss

01:03:12.240 --> 01:03:14.160
 that entire downtown area.

01:03:14.160 --> 01:03:23.240
 Councilmember McGuire. Great, I just want to thank you for being

01:03:23.240 --> 01:03:26.040
 proactive about that and scheduling that meeting.

01:03:26.040 --> 01:03:29.160
 I know that this is a challenging situation.

01:03:29.160 --> 01:03:34.000
 I know that there are a lot of stakeholders who are very concerned, and it's possible

01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:38.240
 that in the past some balls may have been dropped that have made this more of a challenge

01:03:38.240 --> 01:03:44.000
 that it needs to be, but I just want to commend all the staff that's working on it currently

01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:50.520
 for doing your very best with a very challenging situation, so thank you.

01:03:50.520 --> 01:03:51.520
 No problem.

01:03:51.520 --> 01:03:52.520
 I appreciate it.

01:03:52.520 --> 01:03:53.920
 We're just doing our job.

01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:56.440
 We just want to make sure that we can coordinate the best we can.

01:03:56.440 --> 01:04:01.840
 So we look forward to that, and I know John and Travis both, and John may even be on that

01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:03.760
 meeting with us also.

01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:07.720
 So I know we look forward to that conversation, and if there's questions that we can't ask

01:04:07.720 --> 01:04:12.480
 during that, obviously we'll get back to the residents or citizens that have questions.

01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:14.560
 So I appreciate that.

01:04:14.560 --> 01:04:15.560
 All righty.

01:04:15.560 --> 01:04:19.240
 So, Mr. Polster, Mr. Campbell are going to need to leave, so I appreciate you all letting

01:04:19.240 --> 01:04:20.840
 me go to item number seven.

01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:22.080
 Thanks, Jones.

01:04:22.080 --> 01:04:28.400
 So I'm going to move back to, I guess it's item number five, and that's the Southeast

01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:29.940
 Denton construction.

01:04:29.940 --> 01:04:35.760
 So we provided in the Friday report on July 23rd, you know, some updates to the Southeast

01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:43.000
 Denton reconstruction project, and during the July 21st mobility committee meeting,

01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:47.480
 Councilmember Byrd had requested information on when roadway construction would begin in

01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:49.160
 that neighborhood.

01:04:49.160 --> 01:04:54.280
 So there are 73 street segments that are planned to be constructed as a part of the 2019 bond

01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:55.400
 program.

01:04:55.400 --> 01:05:00.800
 You will also find in your backup and attachment the first phase of the 22 segments, and then

01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:05.520
 a complete list of all of the planned segments in that entire area.

01:05:05.520 --> 01:05:10.400
 We anticipate the construction contract for phase one to be advertised for the selection

01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:15.720
 of the contractor by December of 2021, and I will tell you, we have meetings actually

01:05:15.720 --> 01:05:19.720
 today to be talking through some of those items.

01:05:19.720 --> 01:05:25.080
 So we're very much excited to get that project started, and the information for the specific

01:05:25.080 --> 01:05:28.240
 roadway segments is provided in the backup.

01:05:28.240 --> 01:05:36.320
 All righty, so also with that, I will mention that there were some traffic calming measures

01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:39.960
 that were developed and a flyer that actually was developed that I know that we gave to

01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:45.240
 Councilmember Byrd, and that flyer is also attached in your backup.

01:05:45.240 --> 01:05:50.120
 I know there was a Southeast Denton neighborhood meeting a few weeks back where we provided

01:05:50.120 --> 01:05:57.760
 not only the actual flyer of the Sedna neighborhood, the entire bond project, and we also provided

01:05:57.760 --> 01:06:03.720
 that traffic calming measures flyer, so I'm happy to do that and send that along to anyone

01:06:03.720 --> 01:06:07.720
 else who has any questions, but just wanted to make sure everyone knows that that's included

01:06:07.720 --> 01:06:10.120
 in your backup.

01:06:10.120 --> 01:06:16.920
 All righty, so the next concern that was brought forward was the Hodge traffic safety, and

01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:20.960
 this is in regards to the Hodge Elementary, and the traffic concerns.

01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:27.400
 I know Councilmember Beck brought this up at the August 19th, in August 19th, and really

01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:33.560
 talking about could we evaluate that situation, and really the concerns for the queuing of

01:06:33.560 --> 01:06:39.300
 the drop-off and pick up in this area, and Staffel-Wazurb and the measures and traffic

01:06:39.300 --> 01:06:45.960
 cues from the school, really what we're working towards is wanting to do this and working

01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:51.480
 towards getting this in our queue, actually to do a study of looking at this area.

01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:56.400
 I wanted to take the opportunity for school to get back in the routine.

01:06:56.400 --> 01:07:00.400
 I know the first few weeks of schools, you know, family members like to take their children

01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:05.720
 to school, and then as the time passes, that may not be the same pattern that happens once

01:07:05.720 --> 01:07:11.840
 people get used to the routine, so we actually are looking at evaluating and observing some

01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:13.560
 of those things in that area.

01:07:13.560 --> 01:07:17.120
 We've reached out to the principal of Hodge Elementary and are working on coordinating

01:07:17.120 --> 01:07:22.800
 with the principal also, any feedback that they're receiving, and once the study is completed,

01:07:22.800 --> 01:07:27.360
 we will report back with our mitigation measures in that area, but I want you to know that

01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:31.560
 we definitely understand there's some concerns for the pick up and drop-off times.

01:07:31.560 --> 01:07:35.680
 Just wanted to get a good data set that really represents exactly what's happening in that

01:07:35.680 --> 01:07:36.680
 area.

01:07:36.680 --> 01:07:51.040
 Yeah, I was thinking about this situation, and what came to mind was the way that that

01:07:51.040 --> 01:07:57.720
 neighborhood is, where that neighborhood is going to be situated, I can't imagine those

01:07:57.720 --> 01:08:00.840
 folks coming out of that neighborhood and always making a left turn.

01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:06.760
 It would be a right turn out to the street, I mean out to 288.

01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:13.040
 So on that, at that time when we were looking at all of the discourse and the concerns from

01:08:13.040 --> 01:08:18.960
 the neighborhood, it appeared as though that they were concerned more about getting to

01:08:18.960 --> 01:08:24.320
 the school, more so than leaving out of the neighborhood.

01:08:24.320 --> 01:08:31.360
 So if you would put that in your hat to consider that those kids that would be moving into

01:08:31.360 --> 01:08:37.880
 that brand new neighborhood, they would not be bussed, they would have to walk to school.

01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:45.880
 I would be more concerned about sidewalk safety and that kind of thing, more so than the street

01:08:45.880 --> 01:08:55.120
 because what we saw on the video, it was very congested, it was very, it was just unhealthy

01:08:55.120 --> 01:08:58.040
 for us to consider.

01:08:58.040 --> 01:09:03.100
 So just put in the back of your mind, just write a little note to the side that a majority

01:09:03.100 --> 01:09:08.160
 of the time that those new neighbors would be coming in, they most likely won't be going

01:09:08.160 --> 01:09:13.120
 in further into the neighborhood, but they would be going out to 288.

01:09:13.120 --> 01:09:19.400
 - No, that's a valid comment and I appreciate that very much.

01:09:19.400 --> 01:09:26.200
 Alrighty so then the last thing that is really on the specific staff report today is asking

01:09:26.200 --> 01:09:30.720
 to look at traffic calming considerations for older neighborhoods that would include

01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:31.720
 roadway diets.

01:09:31.720 --> 01:09:36.320
 We just talked about this a little bit on Moore Street with wider streets and as we

01:09:36.320 --> 01:09:40.960
 previously talked about, the Citywide Speed Study will incorporate some of these older

01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:46.000
 neighborhoods and evaluate the need for traffic calming measures and we've also included a

01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:50.380
 flyer that shows some of the traffic calming measures that the city may be looking at implementing

01:09:50.380 --> 01:09:54.560
 in certain areas where we do have concerns for speeding.

01:09:54.560 --> 01:10:01.200
 And so just wanted to make sure that you all had a copy of that and also kind of talks

01:10:01.200 --> 01:10:07.320
 about the process of which we follow, where we receive the request, verify the request,

01:10:07.320 --> 01:10:12.320
 do an on-site visit and then also work through that traffic study.

01:10:12.320 --> 01:10:15.800
 Just to kind of go over some of those examples of traffic calming measures, obviously there's

01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:17.320
 the police department enforcement.

01:10:17.320 --> 01:10:21.840
 We work very heavily and closely with the traffic division of the police department.

01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:25.160
 There are opportunities to install speed limit or supplemental signage.

01:10:25.160 --> 01:10:30.460
 I know Council Member Byrd, you just asked specifically about supplemental signage.

01:10:30.460 --> 01:10:33.540
 Speed humps are always a consideration.

01:10:33.540 --> 01:10:37.200
 One of the things that comes up for speed humps is we have to coordinate specifically

01:10:37.200 --> 01:10:40.760
 with our fire department and our police department.

01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:44.960
 As speed humps do slow down individuals driving down the road, it also slows down the emergency

01:10:44.960 --> 01:10:49.800
 response and that's something that we take very seriously, obviously.

01:10:49.800 --> 01:10:54.240
 Roadway narrowing or road diets as they're called, really making that roadway if it's

01:10:54.240 --> 01:11:02.500
 wide, really making that roadway more narrow to allow for one way of travel each direction.

01:11:02.500 --> 01:11:08.080
 One-way streets, you know, that's something else that can be put into play.

01:11:08.080 --> 01:11:11.960
 And then of course there's additional different measures and we gave you a website here where

01:11:11.960 --> 01:11:16.320
 you can look at other measures and this is obviously not a comprehensive list, but just

01:11:16.320 --> 01:11:20.880
 some of the ideas that we use when these concerns come forward is what is the best tool in our

01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:26.720
 toolkit that we can use to help make a difference and make a proactive measure for these areas.

01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:30.440
 So I just wanted to mention that.

01:11:30.440 --> 01:11:35.600
 And then the last item, unless anybody has any questions, I'm sorry, I'll look back down.

01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:38.600
 Councilmember McQuarrie.

01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:46.880
 So I'm, thank you for using the phrase road diets because I think I was searching for

01:11:46.880 --> 01:11:51.020
 that phrase at our last meeting and was struggling to come up with it and I can't remember.

01:11:51.020 --> 01:11:53.200
 I apologize if I'm repeating myself.

01:11:53.200 --> 01:11:57.800
 I can't remember if I just thought this in my head or if I said it out loud to you.

01:11:57.800 --> 01:12:06.840
 But is Bell on your radar as a possible candidate for a road diet?

01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:12.040
 Bell Avenue currently is not really a project that we're looking at as a road diet and a

01:12:12.040 --> 01:12:17.960
 road diet, it doesn't really meet the criteria because it's not as a wide of a street as

01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:19.600
 some of the other streets.

01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:27.040
 There are areas maybe from I would say Mingo North as you get into campus, whether it's

01:12:27.040 --> 01:12:33.960
 wider and some of those areas are left turn lanes or I guess there is a left turn lane

01:12:33.960 --> 01:12:35.200
 in one of those areas.

01:12:35.200 --> 01:12:41.840
 But Bell per se, mostly going through the college campus is a roadway that is narrow

01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:45.000
 and already has a lot of the medians in those areas.

01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:48.120
 So not a particular street that we're looking at.

01:12:48.120 --> 01:12:53.760
 One of the ones that is in the process of looking at and we've just talked about is,

01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:56.800
 you know, is there options for roadway diets along Moore Street?

01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:59.280
 Would that make sense or would that not?

01:12:59.280 --> 01:13:03.680
 I know one that's been talked about in the past is Carroll Boulevard, but currently Carroll

01:13:03.680 --> 01:13:07.120
 Boulevard is in a little bit different scenario.

01:13:07.120 --> 01:13:11.640
 I do realize it's six lanes, but it's something that we would coordinate with TxDOT.

01:13:11.640 --> 01:13:17.560
 And I will tell you that in some of these roadway diet areas and TxDOT coordination,

01:13:17.560 --> 01:13:22.380
 we're looking at trying to really work on getting Elman Locust to where it needs to

01:13:22.380 --> 01:13:24.120
 be before we focus on.

01:13:24.120 --> 01:13:29.400
 A lot of other projects that we'll be coordinating with TxDOT, I know at one time there was the

01:13:29.400 --> 01:13:35.600
 idea of coordinating with TxDOT on all of the projects that the city could take over

01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:40.600
 the responsibility of, but we, with the new leadership, have worked on focusing specifically

01:13:40.600 --> 01:13:41.600
 on Elman Locust.

01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:45.580
 And then, of course, if there's other areas of concern, talking about those too.

01:13:45.580 --> 01:13:51.440
 But instead of trying to take over all of the roadways that TxDOT's currently managing,

01:13:51.440 --> 01:13:54.840
 we're really wanting to focus our efforts on making sure we get Elman Locust taken care

01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:55.840
 of first.

01:13:55.840 --> 01:13:56.840
 Yeah, absolutely.

01:13:56.840 --> 01:13:57.840
 And that makes sense.

01:13:57.840 --> 01:14:03.200
 I mean, there's obviously an enormous amount on your plate right now.

01:14:03.200 --> 01:14:10.160
 I should clarify that what I meant was more like Bell from Eagle to McKinney, taking it

01:14:10.160 --> 01:14:18.480
 from four lanes to two single direction lanes with a turn lane, that type of road diet.

01:14:18.480 --> 01:14:25.640
 But again, I recognize that there's quite a few things in line ahead of something like

01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:26.640
 that.

01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:27.640
 Sure.

01:14:27.640 --> 01:14:32.720
 And I'm sorry I immediately went north, and that was where my head was.

01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:39.440
 But at this time, I'm not aware of us looking at a roadway diet on Bell from Eagle to McKinney.

01:14:39.440 --> 01:14:44.280
 I think it's something that we could possibly look at in the future, but currently not any

01:14:44.280 --> 01:14:49.380
 plans to do that in that area that I've been aware of.

01:14:49.380 --> 01:14:51.340
 But happy to evaluate.

01:14:51.340 --> 01:14:52.340
 Yeah.

01:14:52.340 --> 01:14:58.480
 I'd like to gently suggest that at some point, not that you don't have enough to do, but

01:14:58.480 --> 01:15:05.440
 at some point that that may be on the department's radar as a candidate for a road diet.

01:15:05.440 --> 01:15:14.920
 And I'm particularly thinking about, so that we can add bike lanes, because it's a really

01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:16.840
 dense area of town.

01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:23.600
 It's kind of an artery that leads to downtown, and the sidewalks are very narrow.

01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:26.560
 There aren't connected sidewalks all the way along.

01:15:26.560 --> 01:15:34.760
 On the east side of Bell, just north of Eagle, there are no sidewalks, and so we really,

01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:39.160
 I think, need greater pedestrian and bicycle connectivity in that area.

01:15:39.160 --> 01:15:40.160
 Sure.

01:15:40.160 --> 01:15:44.440
 No, I appreciate that feedback, and I know Nathan is listening intently.

01:15:44.440 --> 01:15:49.400
 He has some of the same ideas that you have in some of those areas, and actually, we have

01:15:49.400 --> 01:15:55.440
 been taking the mobility plan, the different maps with the sidewalk, the bicycle, and also

01:15:55.440 --> 01:15:59.720
 the thoroughfare plan, and looking at what are the best use of those roadways, and really

01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:04.200
 wanting to be able to get people to the center hub, which we consider the downtown area,

01:16:04.200 --> 01:16:07.320
 but then also being able to move throughout the city.

01:16:07.320 --> 01:16:13.080
 And so he is evaluating some corridors that could be specific routes, such as Bell, to

01:16:13.080 --> 01:16:18.320
 be able to have people have the ability to actually use multimodes of transportation.

01:16:18.320 --> 01:16:23.800
 I mean, obviously, there's the DCTA rail that stops there.

01:16:23.800 --> 01:16:31.080
 You can take your bicycle on the rail, and then be able to use it from that rail center

01:16:31.080 --> 01:16:36.120
 at Hickory and Railroad, and then get on your bicycle and ride into town, et cetera.

01:16:36.120 --> 01:16:41.080
 So definitely some of those corridors, and I think you'll see we've been diligently marking

01:16:41.080 --> 01:16:45.680
 up the mobility plan maps and moving forward, and some of that will actually be shown at

01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:50.840
 the meeting that is Thursday night for the comp plan as the mobility plan is a part of

01:16:50.840 --> 01:16:51.840
 that presentation.

01:16:51.840 --> 01:16:52.840
 Great.

01:16:52.840 --> 01:16:53.840
 All right.

01:16:53.840 --> 01:16:54.840
 Thank you so much.

01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:55.840
 Oh, no problem.

01:16:55.840 --> 01:17:08.200
 That's my preferred I travel on 288 quite often, and I've often noticed that there's

01:17:08.200 --> 01:17:11.640
 you can tell what people are walking and there's no sidewalks.

01:17:11.640 --> 01:17:17.880
 How do you how do you how does the city evaluate something like that I'm talking about from

01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:21.600
 McKinney all the way into Spencer Road.

01:17:21.600 --> 01:17:27.320
 I often I do see just worn down paths.

01:17:27.320 --> 01:17:32.240
 How does something like that come about in to be able to put a sidewalk there.

01:17:32.240 --> 01:17:33.240
 Sure.

01:17:33.240 --> 01:17:38.720
 So, like I mentioned, the sidewalk plan is something that is a part of the mobility plan.

01:17:38.720 --> 01:17:44.520
 So that's one thing that not always does everyone understand is the actual mobility plan is kind

01:17:44.520 --> 01:17:45.960
 of a three legged plan, right.

01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:50.240
 So it has the, the bicycle component, the pedestrian component, and then of course the

01:17:50.240 --> 01:17:52.200
 thoroughfare component.

01:17:52.200 --> 01:17:55.640
 And most people are thinking in the terms of the thoroughfare component, just because

01:17:55.640 --> 01:18:00.400
 obviously a lot of people drive cars, but we do have the sidewalk component.

01:18:00.400 --> 01:18:05.200
 So a couple of things I'll tell you is Nathan's working on a sidewalk work plan that evaluates

01:18:05.200 --> 01:18:11.440
 areas or gaps where we do see some of that foot traffic that you're speaking to.

01:18:11.440 --> 01:18:16.680
 We also have other areas that we have a GIS system that's basically showing any of the

01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:21.620
 gaps that we have, or any of the improvement measures that need to be made.

01:18:21.620 --> 01:18:26.120
 Evaluating that along with the ADA transition plan and then of course the parks trails plan.

01:18:26.120 --> 01:18:31.080
 So Nathan has been tackling that and working through evaluating all of those different

01:18:31.080 --> 01:18:32.080
 plans.

01:18:32.080 --> 01:18:36.440
 I will tell you that there are some developments that are going on along loop 288 that will

01:18:36.440 --> 01:18:40.660
 be required to build sidewalk and so then it's, or there are certain sections that need

01:18:40.660 --> 01:18:46.220
 to be filled in and one of the things we're evaluating on the loop itself is with the

01:18:46.220 --> 01:18:50.940
 new structure, the junction for the people experiencing homelessness, we want to make

01:18:50.940 --> 01:18:56.600
 sure that they have the ability to go from the junction all the way down to Serve Denton.

01:18:56.600 --> 01:19:01.860
 And so we want to make sure they have that ability and have that ability to do that safely.

01:19:01.860 --> 01:19:05.600
 And so at this point they would have to walk all the way down to McKinney across McKinney

01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:08.180
 where the crosswalk is and then back north.

01:19:08.180 --> 01:19:11.720
 But there are evaluations that also we're looking at are there additional traffic signals

01:19:11.720 --> 01:19:16.240
 that are needed along the loop or then we could provide for cross access or would it

01:19:16.240 --> 01:19:20.720
 make more sense for them to go north across prominent square and then down in front of

01:19:20.720 --> 01:19:21.800
 the female location.

01:19:21.800 --> 01:19:26.760
 So you know I would see if there's any particular area where it looks like there would be the

01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:29.080
 intention or the need for sidewalk.

01:19:29.080 --> 01:19:32.120
 That's always something we'd like for you to bring to our attention but we do have a

01:19:32.120 --> 01:19:35.540
 work plan that Nathan is currently working through.

01:19:35.540 --> 01:19:39.240
 We have a couple of years of projects that are already underway.

01:19:39.240 --> 01:19:43.720
 Some are under construction some are under design but we're going to be evaluating individual

01:19:43.720 --> 01:19:49.560
 areas and I would also mention that during the 2019 bond program part of what we're doing

01:19:49.560 --> 01:19:54.440
 is evaluating sidewalk gaps in some of those residential streets where we want to be able

01:19:54.440 --> 01:20:03.520
 to fill in so that we have that continuity.

01:20:03.520 --> 01:20:06.800
 I was wondering about McKinney Street now I'm kind of being a little nosy right now.

01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:11.120
 You know just curious about McKinney Street.

01:20:11.120 --> 01:20:21.640
 Any plans for between McKinney I mean I'm sorry between Woodrow and 288.

01:20:21.640 --> 01:20:27.320
 So between Woodrow and loop 288 so the city currently is constructing from loop 288 to

01:20:27.320 --> 01:20:28.520
 the east.

01:20:28.520 --> 01:20:34.280
 The section between Woodrow and McKinney is not a current capital project but the city

01:20:34.280 --> 01:20:40.520
 has submitted it to the county as a possible project for their bond package because it's

01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:45.480
 not something that's currently included or funded but obviously know that there's improvement

01:20:45.480 --> 01:20:49.000
 measures that could be made not only from a sidewalk perspective a draining drainage

01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:54.160
 perspective and then also an ultimate roadway configuration to make that road wider than

01:20:54.160 --> 01:20:55.160
 it currently is.

01:20:55.160 --> 01:21:01.280
 So currently the city's plan and Rachel and myself have worked on this together is submitting

01:21:01.280 --> 01:21:05.380
 that to the county of which we've already turned in that project as a possible project

01:21:05.380 --> 01:21:10.920
 to be a part of that county bond election that they're anticipating and the time frame

01:21:10.920 --> 01:21:15.520
 on that has been changing a little bit but definitely something on our radar that we

01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:20.680
 want to evaluate because we just want to continue to move that roadway in and make those improvements

01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:26.800
 the closer we get to town no problem.

01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:33.000
 Okay so then the last item well two things I have one is you don't have any minutes in

01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:38.200
 your packet today we will have a double set of minutes in your packet the next meeting

01:21:38.200 --> 01:21:42.240
 unfortunately we made an error and did not include that in the agenda so not something

01:21:42.240 --> 01:21:48.200
 that we can have done today so I was all prepared to advise council members to try to restrict

01:21:48.200 --> 01:21:56.320
 the speeches and the invective when reviewing the minutes but so next next meeting you'll

01:21:56.320 --> 01:22:00.440
 have two sets of minutes so that'll be easy peasy.

01:22:00.440 --> 01:22:04.400
 And then the other thing I just wanted to mention was going through I think according

01:22:04.400 --> 01:22:09.800
 to the future staff report and updates and agenda items we have covered all of the different

01:22:09.800 --> 01:22:15.160
 items I'd like to request to remove all of the items except for the ones that you have

01:22:15.160 --> 01:22:21.760
 asked us to follow up on which I would say specifically is in relation to the speeding

01:22:21.760 --> 01:22:28.640
 concerns one that was on Morris and then also councilmember Berge brought up Curly and then

01:22:28.640 --> 01:22:34.680
 I know councilmember I'm sorry Mayor Pro Tem Malter you're interested in seeing if and

01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:39.400
 when Oak Street is going to be a part of an improvement measure so there are a few of

01:22:39.400 --> 01:22:43.920
 them that we have follow up on but any of the ones that we feel like we have addressed

01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:48.040
 we'd like to request to remove those and just want to make sure that that's okay with the

01:22:48.040 --> 01:22:51.440
 committee to request any of the ones that we feel like we have taken the opportunity

01:22:51.440 --> 01:23:00.760
 to answer any objections.

01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:04.400
 I'm looking right now at the identified items of interest for future staff reports is that

01:23:04.400 --> 01:23:08.960
 what you're talking about yes ma'am exhibit number five so those are items and all of

01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:14.280
 the items that were listed from the July 21st meeting we've brought back feedback for you

01:23:14.280 --> 01:23:19.980
 on those any of the items that we have had discussion on or we have follow a future follow

01:23:19.980 --> 01:23:25.340
 up on will continue to keep those on the agenda and bring those back at the next meeting unless

01:23:25.340 --> 01:23:29.320
 it takes additional research will bring it out the meeting prior to you know following

01:23:29.320 --> 01:23:33.960
 that but if there's a particular item that we have addressed we'd like to remove that

01:23:33.960 --> 01:23:39.680
 from the overall agenda and just put it in the items completed okay yes yeah that's that's

01:23:39.680 --> 01:23:44.700
 fine sorry I don't know what I thought I was hearing but that's obviously fine yes that's

01:23:44.700 --> 01:23:49.000
 no problem and the so the last item with that is we'd like to see if there's any additional

01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:54.800
 items that you would like to add for any updates or any additional agenda items that we can

01:23:54.800 --> 01:24:01.880
 add to bring back to you at the next meeting on your mark get set

01:24:01.880 --> 01:24:07.680
 I mean you know just just those ongoing things the speed study the I mean you know a lot

01:24:07.680 --> 01:24:13.040
 was already raised yeah during the meeting yeah I would like to ask for an update on

01:24:13.040 --> 01:24:20.280
 the hinkle roundabout of what was planned what's already been done and as have we seen

01:24:20.280 --> 01:24:24.360
 a measurable benefit

01:24:24.360 --> 01:24:29.920
 no problem and definitely something we can work with the operations department and they

01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:35.040
 are currently working on that project so happy to bring back an update on the hinkle roundabout

01:24:35.040 --> 01:24:57.800
 no problem at all my primary concern at this point would be the college view neighborhood

01:24:57.800 --> 01:25:04.000
 there are some streets that still don't have curbs and I'm very concerned about that area

01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:08.880
 I know they're very quiet area and they be maybe missing out because they don't speak

01:25:08.880 --> 01:25:19.960
 very loudly paisley and Campbell's streets I think that's Campbell they just don't have

01:25:19.960 --> 01:25:27.200
 curves I don't know why we have streets in our center areas that are that don't have

01:25:27.200 --> 01:25:36.080
 curves and they have bike lanes perceived bike lanes they have mailboxes sitting in

01:25:36.080 --> 01:25:46.320
 the middle of sidewalks so just that little quiet neighborhood the college view neighborhood

01:25:46.320 --> 01:25:57.520
 north of McKinney Campbell street wood street you know those areas there would you all give

01:25:57.520 --> 01:26:03.840
 that some attention there they're not going to they're not going to let me know so I want

01:26:03.840 --> 01:26:10.960
 to be there for them and let them know that I do want to keep Roodale Roodale and paisley

01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:17.600
 that's my biggest contention right there I know that there's probably some we talked

01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:23.520
 about Roodale at one point that where they're going to go north you know from mingo that

01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:28.280
 Roodale is supposed to connect some kind of way there but I'm down here on paisley and

01:26:28.280 --> 01:26:37.080
 going north south to McKinney Street sure so you all take a look at that and I want

01:26:37.080 --> 01:26:43.400
 to give that area some attention I don't know anybody that lives over there but maybe one

01:26:43.400 --> 01:26:48.920
 person but I know that there and I don't have anybody to connect to sure you don't have

01:26:48.920 --> 01:26:53.760
 an association or anything like that so we want to be mindful and take care of those

01:26:53.760 --> 01:26:59.680
 folks in that area no I appreciate that we will go back and look at if there were plans

01:26:59.680 --> 01:27:04.060
 and what was approved in that area and then also look at if there's anything that's planned

01:27:04.060 --> 01:27:07.920
 in the future for a capital project any of that area which would bring it up to a current

01:27:07.920 --> 01:27:14.460
 standard but happy to look into that to see if there's any improvement measures that are

01:27:14.460 --> 01:27:18.720
 currently planned and maybe the reasons why some of the things you're bringing forward

01:27:18.720 --> 01:27:23.240
 I can't answer why they don't have curves or why there's mailboxes in the middle of

01:27:23.240 --> 01:27:31.400
 sidewalks but I'm happy to evaluate no problem all righty well that's all I have for today

01:27:31.400 --> 01:27:40.640
 sir okay thought to ponder but a road diet be paleo I think I think it would be we'll

01:27:40.640 --> 01:27:42.680
 adjourn our meeting at 1029.