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 Good morning, and welcome to this meeting of the Mobility Committee of the City of Denton.

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 We have a quorum present.

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 We don't have decisions to take today, but we have a lot of interesting sounding reports

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 and information.

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 So we'll start with item A, Receive a Report and Hold a Discussion Regarding City of Denton

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 Transportation/Mobility Project Status Report.

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 Mr. Polstoo.

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 Good morning.

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 My name is John Polstoo with Innovative Transportation Solutions, and you have your report before

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 I will adjust it a little bit for those watching to see if they can see as much of it as possible

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 per page.

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 So the first sheet as we go through is this the project summary sheet that shows the projects

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 we're working on and dollar amounts associated with it.

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 It's roughly about $2.5 billion worth of projects we're working on in the city of Denton and

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 the surrounding areas.

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 First project we want to talk to you about is 2181 North/South Construction Project.

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 It is under construction.

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 We are working with Mrs. Zachary project.

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 It has a July 22 project.

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 The major issue on this project right now is we continue to do, and we have Travis Kimball,

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 the area engineer for a text out here today with us.

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 Pretty question you may have with him, but we are working on getting the critical path

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 item on this project is to have the traffic switch done in October.

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 If we can get that traffic switch done in October and we meet that date, then the timeline

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 for hitting the July 22 completion date, I'm going to have to make that larger, my glasses

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 are fogging up, if we can hit the time frame, then the July 22 completion date is much more

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 realistic to hit.

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 We have a wall, a sound wall, that is going to have to be tweaked on this project once

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 the traffic switch is completed due to the fact that the sound wall was added after some

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 of the utilities were relocated into an area where the sound wall has to go.

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 So we're going to work on that after we get the traffic switch in October, but it looks

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 like things are coming together.

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 We have various utility conflicts on a regular basis, but there's nothing that we can't

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 deal with on a daily basis.

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 So we are working daily on that and the city is, we're meeting with the staff and text

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 out regularly on this project and everybody seems to be working good together.

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 Any questions on 2181?

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 We're good.

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 Do I need to be recognized by the chair?

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 I didn't see your sign there, Council Member McGuire.

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 Yes, thank you.

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 I have several questions.

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 This is right through the heart of my district, right in my backyard, and I've gotten lots

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 and lots of questions from constituents about this.

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 Can you speak to sidewalks?

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 I can see, because I'm watching the progress very closely, that there are cutouts, sidewalks

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 are coming.

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 Can you speak to what the size of the sidewalks is going to be and when we can anticipate

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 those going down?

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 So what the contractor is supposed to be doing in the interim is continuing to make sure

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 that there are improved services for the pedestrians in that corridor continuously, so that might

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 just be gravel to connect where the sidewalks are.

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 But ultimately, when the project's completed, there'll be five foot sidewalks on both sides

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 of the road, continuously throughout the corridor.

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 And can we anticipate those happening after?

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 They are part of the project, so at July 22, when the project's complete, the sidewalks

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 Okay, excellent, excellent, as far as, sorry to get into this level of detail, but people

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 are like, "When can my kids walk to school?"

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 Can we anticipate, for example, the concretes going down at some of the cross streets on

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 the west side currently, can we anticipate that west side sidewalk going down as part

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 of that, or should we anticipate that happening after the traffic switch?

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 So again, what we tried to do with the school district was provide some type of surface

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 continuously through the construction of the project, so that if those that are walking

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 aren't walking in mud.

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 So they can do it now, it's just not on sidewalk.

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 It may be in gravel, it may be in crushed asphalt or whatnot, but they're able to do

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 that outside of the construction area now.

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 So I don't think there's a phasing where the sidewalks will be done before the road is.

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 I think it's going to all be done at the same time.

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 Okay, all right, thank you, that answers that question.

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 Can you elaborate a little bit on the sound walls?

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 I see these like 178R and 180R, I don't know what that means, are those locations?

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 Yes, and I've always asked for better descriptions on locations and tech center refuses to give

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 it to me, so I'm going to throw them under the bus.

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 But it's where it was shown in the schematics, do you know roughly where that is?

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 We'll get a better description in the report.

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 Okay, yeah, if you could tell me where those sound walls are going up, because I've had

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 several people ask me about that sound wall.

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 I will get back to my computer, and before the hours out after I leave here, you'll know

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 Great, thank you so much.

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 They're on the schematic and the schematics on my computer and on Keep It Moving Dallas

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 and they'll show the locations.

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 Then the 35E Mayhill Project, again, the critical path item on this project is the utility relocations.

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 You'll see the very long list of utilities here.

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 We've been meeting with city staff and utility DME and your city utility folks to talk about

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 expediting the time frame on this.

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 You see that we have a ready to let date of September 23, and we have some overlap on

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 that with the city's utilities.

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 We started a two-week meeting every two weeks, meeting last week with city staff, and we'll

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 have another meeting this Friday on some, is that this Friday, on some issues related

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 to that, but the reality is that the $87 million job, we did add some scope because we wanted

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 to do those bypasses at Brinker, so there were some things that we added about a year

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 ago that expanded the work for the city's utilities, but we have to hit our let date,

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 and we have to find a way to make sure everybody hits that date, so that's the critical path

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 item, just the utilities.

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 The Big Kahuna 35E merge project, again, the right of way is completed on this.

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 We're working on the utilities.

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 We think we have a path forward on this, and again, this is one of those projects that

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 we are meeting with staff on a bi-weekly time frame to make sure that any issues that come

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 up, both from the water, wastewater side and DME side, that we quickly address it, and

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 what TechSite has communicated to the city is, is if there's anything on the design

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 that TechSite's doing that impedes or impacts the utilities in a negative way, that if they'll

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 let us, the state, know, then the state will change the design to minimize the impact to

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 the utilities to the extent possible.

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 So we are shooting for that August 23, ready to let date.

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 Significant number of utilities, yes, sir.

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 Question about those utilities and the DME lines that I know are being moved as part

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 Have we reached any kind of consensus regarding how we're going to relocate those transmission

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 So, yeah, what am I doing answering?

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 Yeah, I think this is more a question for my colleagues here.

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 That project is actually being delivered by our utility department and also municipal

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 electric, but there are corridors, they've hired consultants along with internal staff

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 The project will require additional easements along the entire corridor for those utilities

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 Some of those easements will be located along the actual corridor of 35, others will be

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 offset and offsite, so for example, they're looking at easements to be moved, and I'll

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 give James Wood as an example, to be behind James Wood versus in front of James Wood.

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 So there's some creative measures that are being looked at to try to find out the best

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 way to reroute the utilities, but the Denton Municipal Electric and Water Wastewater Utility

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 Departments are working together to see if easements can be acquired for the city versus

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 individual utilities also.

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 And that's part of the area where we're going to be working with the city to see if there's

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 a manner in which we can help expedite the schedule on these projects is the easement

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 Karen?

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 Okay, so the 380 interim project says that we're going to be starting on September 20th.

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 Travis just told me that the good news is we're starting.

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 The bad news is Friday night we're shutting down the on-ramp, which should immediately

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 improve the traffic on 35, but if you want to get on, you'll have to find someplace else

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 to do it between now and when the project gets completed.

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 But we are starting and we are still anticipating having substantial completion sometime around

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 the end/first of the year of this coming year.

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 So it begins.

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 At least you're fudging sooner, rather than fudging later, yeah, that's right.

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 Substantial completion means that you're doing what you can where you're supposed to legally,

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 but we may be still doing some farming and landscaping and close-out punch list items,

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 but you're essentially driving where you're supposed to without getting a ticket.

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 And then the big project to the north, we continue to acquire the right-of-way.

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 There are 115 parcels.

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 We're a little bit further behind on this project just simply because when we got load

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 slowed down, we didn't stop.

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 We just went from 55 miles an hour to 30 miles an hour on acquisition.

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 We had more parcels to acquire.

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 It still has a 2023 let date, but we have a significant number of parcels still to acquire.

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 There are utilities out there, as you can see, that we still need to work with.

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 The good news is that there's not a whole lot of impact to the city north of 77, so

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 we shouldn't be beating up on y'all for that one too bad.

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 And we have a meeting set to discuss how to work with the TxDOT PIO office because what

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 we're going to do is all of these 35 projects, the Mayhill, the Merge, and the big project

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 to the north, that we're going to treat that as a corridor project.

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 And so all of that communication to your residents will be done in a unified manner.

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 So we're going to get with the district's PIO.

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 They've got some new pilot programs, and I'm not on social media, so I don't know exactly

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 what they are, but it's where they can communicate through neighborhood or just talk or some

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 other third thing that I don't know about, where it's interactive and they keep you informed.

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 And so we're going to put a more proactive, more like what we did with AGL on 35E project,

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 but AGL was responsible for that public outreach.

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 This will be TxDOT doing it through these new pilot programs, and once we have a better

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 idea of what that looks like, we'll bring that to y'all and your public information

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 folks to meld it into your system.

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 Okay, we always skip main lanes.

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 We are fixing to be environmentally cleared though.

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 What that means is, is that from right-of-way line to right-of-way line, from now on, anything

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 in the city of Denton, both the city and the county can protect that corridor as development

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 comes along that corridor, which is all we really wanted to do for the main lane segment.

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 The real project is the frontage road segment.

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 We are still working to get HNTB on contract.

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 the PS&E, the plan specifications and estimate work to start doing the plans for the frontage

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 Right now we have it split 407 North is phase one, 407 South is phase two, but we have submitted

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 this and we are partnering with the Dallas district to get this project on a list to

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 be ready for a list of projects that may be asked by the commission if they have to reallocate

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 some of the funds out of Houston and Austin, because those projects are not going to make

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 their let dates.

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 So, this is a candidate project.

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 It's clear lanes, even though it's frontage roads are classified as clear lanes, it's

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 environmentally cleared, requiring right of way, and we're into the design of the project.

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 So it meets all the criteria for submitting money for those projects.

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 So if all goes well and they say yes, we can expedite the schedule to move up the ready

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 to let date, but if we just follow the normal procedures of normal timeframes, we're looking

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 at June of 2024 for a ready to let date for the frontage roads.

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 Okay, your 380-377 project, this is the segment from 288 out to the 377 cut north.

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 It's got a November 2023 completion date, the construction report, basically.

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 What we're doing is shoring up the bridge, so I'm going to go back up to the map here.

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 So this area, where you see where it crosses the lake, that's the bridge structure that

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 they're doing the underpinning to make sure that it can hold up to the additional weight

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 of the additional capacity we're putting on.

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 Once we get that done, what we've asked TxDOT to do is to do some temporary, you know, they

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 got to look at it from a phasing standpoint, but to do some temporary center barrier protection

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 now because those accidents that have been occurring are crossover accidents.

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 We're still asking the city to do the ordinance to reduce the speed temporarily to the 50-mile-an-hour

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 speed just because it helps us make everybody aware that that is a construction zone.

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 Once the project is done, it'll go back to its normal posted speed of 60 miles an hour

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 or whatever the 85th percentile shows it needs to be after the project is completed.

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 But we still believe that the best solution for the safety out there is in the interim

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 to put that barrier up in the median.

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 Ultimately, when the project's done, it has a raised median, and that will be the safety

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 issue that protects the crossover traffic accidents.

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 - Council Member McGuire?

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 - Can you give us a timeline on the temporary barrier?

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 - I knew you were going to ask me that.

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 Brandon told us at the other meeting that it might be the first quarter next year.

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 Yeah, it's, we're talking probably spring before we can, because they're out there having

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 to shore up all of those columns and bridge vents to make sure that it can carry the weight

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 of the additional capacity for the additional lanes.

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 Even when you put those plastic barriers, those are filled with water, and so they add

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 weight to the structure.

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 - That answers my very next question, which is why can't we just go stick them out there?

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 You mentioned an ordinance to lower the speed limit.

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 Is that something that's going to come before council?

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 - Did I jump the bean?

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 - I don't know.

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 - No, Council Member McGuire, we are actually working through that ordinance right now.

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 We have a preliminary draft that Legal is going to be reviewing in the very near future.

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 It's in their inbox, so they just received it as of yesterday.

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 And so we are working through that, and then it will come before council as an item for

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 approval to lower the speed limit, not only within the area across this project that John

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 just mentioned, also into town for Ruedell, just because we have some areas in there that

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 we need to lower the speed limit, and this will all be temporarily during the construction.

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 And so we're working through that process.

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 It may go to council before it comes to Mobility Committee, just due to timing, but we will

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 absolutely put it as a part of the agenda for Mobility Committee also.

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 - Great.

244
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 Yeah.

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 And I definitely, you know, time is of the essence.

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 There have been quite a lot of those head-on collisions.

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 So I'm totally okay with that, going straight to council to get it done as quickly as possible.

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 - Okay.

249
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 Thank you very much.

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 - Yeah, it's in the report, so I didn't spill the beans.

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 All right, then the next project, 380 East.

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 It has been let to Regal, was that who I got it?

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 Zachary, that's even better, came in a little, about five and a half percent under, and it's

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 got 36 months in barricades, 936 working days.

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 That's how we're able to say that anticipated construction, oh, we don't have a start date.

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 So we awarded it to Zachary, but they have a delayed start of sometime in December because

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 there are still some utilities that had to be relocated, but we wanted to go ahead and

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 get the project let.

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 So we will continue to monitor this, and come December, we'll have a pre-construction meeting,

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 and then we'll be able to know what start date is and what the completion date is.

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 But it has been awarded, and the utilities are being completed, and we'll continue that

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 project all the way out to the county line, and that also we're asking the communities

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 in that section of 380 to do the ordinances to do the speed, work zone speed to 50 miles

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 an hour, because we're just anticipating we're going to have that same problem there.

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 John, real quick, I would like to just say that we actually are looking at lowering the

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 speed limit to 45 miles per hour, and then 40 in some of the other areas.

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 So it will be a little bit different based on our results and research that we've done.

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 So we're confirming and reviewing that, and then we'll provide that as soon as possible

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 to counsel.

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 Great.

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 I'm glad to hear that.

272
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 Okay.

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 So the US 380 feasibility study, we've got a meeting scheduled with the district off

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 cycle.

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 I think we got it set sooner than later, and part of what we're going to do from the county

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 standpoint is we're going to divide the baby.

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 So the county and the state, we work together on who does what on the development of these

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 projects.

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 We are probably fixing to, Denton County is fixing to go out for an RFQ for the outer

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 loop, the EIS on the outer loop, which is just to the northern part of this box.

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 We anticipate that EIS will cost the county about $10 million to bring somebody on to

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 clear that corridor from the county line all the way out to 35, and it's consistent with

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 Collin County's thoroughfare plan, Aubrey's thoroughfare plan.

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 I realize I was nodding without actually understanding.

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 EIS?

286
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 Oh, I'm sorry.

287
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 Hopefully that's in your glossary.

288
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 Yeah, I'm sure it is.

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 Environmental impact statement.

290
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 Thank you.

291
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 Gotcha.

292
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 So you've got a categorical exclusion for environmental clearance, which is one of the

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 easiest.

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 Then you've got an environmental assessment, which is what normally we end up doing, but

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 on a very large project, they push you up to what's called an environmental impact statement,

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 which is what we've been told we have to do.

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 County line all the way to 35, consistent with where we pick it up at Collin County's

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 thoroughfare plan, consistent with Aubrey's and consistent with the City of Denton's thoroughfare

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 plan, where you all show the outer loop in your community, consistent with where the

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 Corps of Engineers tells us we have to cross the green belt.

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 There's only one place to let us cross, and it's at 428.

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 So we're going to start that.

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 We're going to meet with TechStat, and we're going to request them to do two things, start

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 on the 380, clear out the feasibility, because they're saying they're going to have this

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 meeting in the fall.

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 We'd want them to have this closeout meeting sooner than that, because to me, today's fall,

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 so they can do it tomorrow.

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 Close out this feasibility, and then start on the environmental clearance for 380 as

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 a freeway, and separately, because of the issues we're having with development on the

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 loop, start the environmental clearance for adding frontage roads on the loop, which is

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 needed because the development is being pushed on the loop.

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 So all that's on that little map right there that we're going to be pushing in the next

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 two weeks.

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 Questions?

315
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 Comments?

316
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 Concerns?

317
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 Cajoling?

318
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 Okay.

319
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 I will respond to hand signs.

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 I was just making a general face at my displeasure at the development of the loop, but that's

321
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 not your problem.

322
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,160
 We've got some kind of radiation there.

323
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,160
 Yeah.

324
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 All right.

325
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 Carry on.

326
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,120
 So am I allowed to proceed?

327
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 Yeah, please, despite the council member's displeasure.

328
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 All right.

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 Loop 288 West, Chank Patel has been executed the contract, we are scheduling a kickoff

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 meeting.

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 We'll include city staff, because it is very important to your community as far as development

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 and setting that corridor.

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 We're doing the inside frontage road for sure, and depending on if we can get additional

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 money for this project with this Houston-Austin clawback, we may end up trying to shoot for

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 the whole enchilada, but we'll get you a schedule on what we think the timing is on the PS&A

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 and the actual completion of everything once we get them actual working.

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 And then we'll have regular updates on that that will be able to provide the city staff

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 that will show into your report where we are on the project.

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 Same same on 1515, we have LTRA under contract now, and we will, we had to do a little tweaking

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 because we changed the footprint after it was environmentally cleared at the western,

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 where it says FM 1515 here, we removed a traffic circle and we tweaked the alignment that Peter

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 built to accommodate some of their concerns, which required us to do a minor reevaluation

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 on the environmental assessment.

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 We're done with that pretty much, I mean, we've still got some of the procedural work

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 to do, but we're going to bring LTRA in with the city and the county and tech stock to

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 do a kickoff meeting, make sure we're all doing the right thing for the right reasons.

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 And once we know that, we'll have a better schedule for you.

348
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 Lins?

349
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 Of course.

350
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 So you know, I know that this is not a residential area that we're talking about.

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 But is there any?

352
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 Are there any, you know, maybe four foot sidewalks in the plan for this project?

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 Every road that the state builds now includes sidewalks.

354
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 Okay, so yes, all right.

355
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 The federal government required them.

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 And they used to require a 14 foot outside lane, and we finally explained to them, because

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 you got bike experts that show, explain that if you've got a 12 foot lane, the people who

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 know what they're doing on the bicycle ride in the middle of the lane, because it's safer.

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 So if you got a 14 foot lane, they're just going to ride in the middle of a 14 foot lane,

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 right?

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 So it doesn't do you anything.

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 So we finally, over 12 years and millions and millions of dollars, convinced them that

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 we were right.

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 So now we don't have to do the 14 foot outside lanes, but we still do the sidewalks.

365
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 Excellent.

366
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 All right.

367
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 I'm glad to hear that.

368
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 Thank you.

369
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,520
 Okay.

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 1173 is one of those projects that we're also going out when we did the outer loop in September,

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 hopefully into September, for the outer loop, we're also going out the county is to do the

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 RFQ for 1173.

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 So the county will be hiring somebody to begin the design on this project.

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 The intent is if we can get it done in time, hopefully some of the money on 35 will just

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 dribble off and fall off on 1173, and we can get it constructed out to crumb.

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 And it's environmentally clear now as of August 26, so now we can protect the corridor.

377
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 We'll just skip it on the locusts, no, I'm kidding.

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 So we are working with TxDOT and your staff to figure out a way to solve at least from

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 the courthouse south now, because that's the part that's been, the utilities and drainage

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 has been done.

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 Travis is doing coring right now to determine what the heck is out there underground.

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 We kind of know what the pavement condition looks like.

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 We just need to know what the base looks like, and so we're going to get those cores, identify

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 the amount of the substructure that needs to be redone, and then we're going to come

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 back to city staff and we're going to talk it through from then.

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 And hopefully that's a quicker process than just doing a mill and overlay and then coming

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 back two years later when we have some other third way of getting it funded.

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 I have become accustomed to the kind of methodical pace of these large projects, but this is

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 so in the heart of the city and the businesses are bleeding.

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 Is there anything different that can be done in the way of concentrating resources to get

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 this done faster?

392
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,920
 Well, Travis is your new area engineer.

393
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 He's been on the job I think less than a year now, right?

394
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 Three months.

395
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 Three months.

396
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 And he's breathed the fresh air.

397
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 Why aren't you done yet?

398
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,200
 Huh?

399
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 You've had three months.

400
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 Why aren't we done yet?

401
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 And so what he's going to try to do is try to do that, where we combine.

402
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 So he's going to try to do, to do the bigger job, you really actually have to go to a different

403
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 pot of money, which requires a whole lot more effort.

404
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 What he's going to try to do is justify out of his maintenance budget.

405
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 And then what I've offered, because I know that the county is also interested in their

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 front door, is that once we find out if there's a delta on what he's able to do versus what

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 he needs to do to make everybody happy, that I just need to know a number and let us find

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 out what the art of the possible is.

409
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 That what you're asking us to do is what we're going to do.

410
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,400
 Well, yeah.

411
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 I'll be encouraged to hear.

412
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 I'm encouraged that you're going after it, and I'm looking forward to hearing the breakthroughs

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 you came up with.

414
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 And I'm going to sit here and acknowledge that you heard a similar kind of urgency out

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 of Mobility Committee on the 35-380 situation, and you're very creative and came up with

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 a solve and had to find money to do it.

417
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 But January's looking almost like it's real.

418
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 So I'm hoping you can hit it out of the park again, Council Member Byrd.

419
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,720
 I have a simple question.

420
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,800
 You say that you're going to ... Those are the ones that hurt the most.

421
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,960
 Just educational stuff.

422
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:21,560
 You say that you're going to go and drill a core and see what's under there?

423
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,800
 What does that look like to a lay person?

424
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,360
 It looks like all those other holes that are out there.

425
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,360
 Oh, okay.

426
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,880
 So you're going to take a big ... I don't know if it's big, but it might be like that

427
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 big.

428
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,880
 Oh, it's a little big.

429
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:34,880
 We're going to core to see what's down there.

430
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:39,520
 We're going to do it in random spots to see what's underneath the pavement.

431
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,760
 So why do you need to know what's underneath the pavement?

432
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:48,480
 Well, because we need to know if it's crappy, and if it is, then we've got to figure out

433
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 if it needs to be repaired or replaced.

434
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,800
 Don't use that technical jargon on us.

435
00:31:54,800 --> 00:32:01,240
 So if the substructure is not up to standard, then we have to come in and do base repair

436
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 so that the base of the roadway will hold up to the traffic once you put the asphalt

437
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 on it.

438
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:17,320
 So the asphalt just sets on the earth, and what it sets on determines how long the asphalt

439
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,320
 lives.

440
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,320
 Okay.

441
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,320
 How's that?

442
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,320
 Did I screw that up really bad?

443
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,320
 You did a good job.

444
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:30,480
 Because I was thinking that four is like taking a big back hole and going in.

445
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,080
 No, that's called utilities and drainage.

446
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,240
 Travis, if you want to understand the impact of not knowing what's under there, take a

447
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 drive on West Oak, west of Bradley, we'll talk about that one later.

448
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:55,080
 So I think Travis and Becky, because this thing, like I said, this thing has been languishing

449
00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:01,920
 forever, and when Travis came on and Becky really grabbed it by the horns, that's when

450
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,040
 things really started moving.

451
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:10,440
 So you got two people that are really adamant to solve the problem, and I get the easy part

452
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,440
 at the end.

453
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,440
 So.

454
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,440
 Okay.

455
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,440
 We're really counting on you.

456
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,440
 Thank you.

457
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,440
 Money's always the easy part.

458
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,440
 Okay.

459
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,440
 Council Member McQuarrie.

460
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,440
 Thanks.

461
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,680
 I apologize because I think that you might have answered this in our last meeting, but

462
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,400
 I just want to clarify, so TechStat is responsible for the section of Eagle Drive that's between

463
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,440
 Elm and Locust.

464
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:39,360
 Is there any other section of Eagle that TechStat is responsible for, or is the city responsible

465
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,360
 for everything?

466
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,360
 Yeah, that's it.

467
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,360
 That's it.

468
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,360
 Just that little section.

469
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,360
 Okay.

470
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,920
 So what we're trying to do in phases is once we get this to a certain standard that is

471
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:55,960
 to your liking, it'll come off system so that you guys can do with it what you want in a

472
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:03,160
 more of a community, comprehensive, complete street, context sensitive manner as opposed

473
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,560
 to what the state will allow you to do.

474
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,560
 Yeah, great.

475
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,320
 And I'm very much looking forward to that, no offense.

476
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:15,400
 I have a question that I think is probably best answered by Becky.

477
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:22,600
 So I know that a lot of residents and business owners in this area, particularly on Elm have

478
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,440
 reached out and I believe you've had some conversations.

479
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,440
 Could you give us an update, or maybe your staff has had conversations, can you give

480
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:39,400
 us an update on what your department intends to do in the future as far as communication

481
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,400
 with...

482
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:45,720
 Pardon me, Council Member, actually it's on the next item, Elm and Locust traffic public

483
00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:46,720
 outreach.

484
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:47,720
 Okay, nevermind.

485
00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:48,720
 Sorry.

486
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:49,720
 I'll wait.

487
00:34:49,720 --> 00:34:50,720
 Yes.

488
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:51,720
 On agenda order.

489
00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:52,720
 Okay.

490
00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:53,720
 All right.

491
00:34:53,720 --> 00:34:54,720
 Now we're primed for it.

492
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:55,720
 Okay.

493
00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:56,720
 Sorry.

494
00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:57,720
 I'll hold my horses.

495
00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:04,240
 So I'm gonna check to see if the IAS is on here, and it's not, so I'll add that.

496
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:09,080
 It should be right after environmental assessment, so we'll add that.

497
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,000
 Learn something new every day.

498
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,000
 It's a growing, it's a living document.

499
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,000
 That's all I have.

500
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,560
 Again, I'd like y'all, if you haven't met Travis Kimball, and I don't know if you're

501
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,840
 gonna do that, Becky, but...

502
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:24,840
 We're about to meet him.

503
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,840
 He's the best man.

504
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,840
 We can't meet him until we call the item or we meet him.

505
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:28,840
 All right.

506
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:29,840
 I'm done.

507
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,840
 Thanks, John.

508
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:31,840
 Great report.

509
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:32,840
 Do I leave this here, or...

510
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:33,840
 I don't even know what this is.

511
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:34,840
 It's your report.

512
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,840
 You can probably take it down.

513
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,840
 You know, I'll put it back on the Denton logo.

514
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:50,280
 This looks better.

515
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:57,720
 Okay.

516
00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:01,080
 I'm calling item B. Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding the City of Denton

517
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,960
 staff update regarding a number of items.

518
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,000
 That begins with introducing Travis Kimball.

519
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,000
 Thank you very much.

520
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:14,440
 Yes, Travis, we would like to take an opportunity to have him introduce himself.

521
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:19,720
 As Travis mentioned, he's been with the Textot Area Office as the area engineer for about

522
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:23,280
 three months, but has worked for Textot for a number of years.

523
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,360
 And so just wanted you to get familiar with him.

524
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:31,880
 We've had a really great time over the last three months working on a lot of things together

525
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:38,320
 and appreciate the partnership and collaboration that Textot is willing to have, and really

526
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,800
 look forward to a lot of the projects.

527
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,960
 As you see, they have a lot of projects that are going on within the city.

528
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,560
 And we know it's very important that our teams work together.

529
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,960
 So with that, I'll turn it over to Travis and let him introduce himself.

530
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,960
 Thank you, Becky.

531
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,960
 I appreciate it.

532
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,520
 I appreciate the invite from Becky to come this morning.

533
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,520
 I'll just quickly...

534
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,520
 My name is Travis Kimball.

535
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,680
 I work for Textot, Denton County Area Engineer.

536
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,480
 Started June 1st up here.

537
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,400
 I've been with the department a little over 12 years.

538
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,960
 I've worked in design down in Mesquite in our roadway design section.

539
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,440
 I've worked in construction in Collin County for several years.

540
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:17,880
 My most recent hire to that was working in our project delivery office down in Mesquite,

541
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,400
 managing our large mobility.

542
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,560
 A lot of the projects on the list was my group.

543
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,120
 We were managing the development and the planning of those things.

544
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:32,640
 Our hydraulics group were in my section, and we also had schematics and local LED.

545
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,560
 So a large assortment of type of projects.

546
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,480
 I've had the pleasure of working with John for several years on a lot of these projects.

547
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,720
 We've delivered some tough ones in Denton County.

548
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:46,680
 So new as the area engineer, but definitely not new to Denton County.

549
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,000
 Very familiar with the big projects we've got coming up here.

550
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:55,320
 Very familiar with the growth in Denton County, especially the city of Denton, and know what

551
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,200
 we need and how we can deliver it.

552
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:02,720
 So I'm really looking forward to working with you members of the council, continue working

553
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:03,720
 with Becky.

554
00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:07,920
 Becky's got my cell phone number any time she needs anything and vice versa.

555
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,400
 We've got a very open line of communication.

556
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,400
 Same thing with ITS.

557
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:16,240
 I've worked with them for many years, and so looking forward to continuing that relationship

558
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:17,240
 as well.

559
00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:19,440
 So we've got a lot to do.

560
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,800
 We've got a lot of projects to clear, and we want to get on the ground running.

561
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,880
 We've got that project starting Friday, which was a huge win, I think, for TxDOT in the

562
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,080
 city and all the residents in the area.

563
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,080
 It's a much needed interim fix while we wait on that larger project to come.

564
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:40,640
 So I think that's basically all I've got, unless I'm happy to take any questions while

565
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:41,640
 I'm here.

566
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,400
 But just, again, looking forward to working with everybody and continuing the partnerships

567
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,400
 that we've already got going.

568
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:54,360
 So the one thing I would add to that is I would tell you we would meet quarterly with

569
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,800
 TxDOT on all these projects to make sure they kept moving.

570
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,800
 When we would meet quarterly back in the day, we were meeting with him.

571
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:02,800
 Yes.

572
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:03,800
 That was me.

573
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:09,880
 Well, I really want to welcome you, and I've got to tell you, Travis, until now TxDOT

574
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:16,360
 has seemed to me to be this big faceless entity, so at least now I know what the eyes of TxDOT

575
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:17,360
 look like.

576
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,360
 That's us.

577
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,600
 If it's Denton County, it's me, so feel free to call any time.

578
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,600
 All right.

579
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,480
 Thank you so much for visiting.

580
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,760
 Thank you all very much for inviting me today.

581
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:30,760
 Thank you, Travis.

582
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:31,760
 All righty.

583
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,840
 So as we move along on the staff memo, the next item that we were going to talk about

584
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,360
 is the speeding concerns.

585
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:43,680
 So as you can see in your memorandum, there were questions about speeding concerns along

586
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,640
 Pennsylvania Drive from Ridgecrest Circle to Woodbrook Street.

587
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,160
 Staff did collect data in September of 2020, and the results showed that the roadway did

588
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,360
 not warrant any traffic calming measures at the time.

589
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:02,520
 Since the previous analysis was conducted during COVID, staff is going to be reevaluating

590
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:07,640
 the location the week of September 21st, so that's next week, and then staff will develop

591
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:14,840
 a plan once the results are available and provide those details in a future Friday report.

592
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:22,040
 The next item on speeding concerns was Moore Street, and from June 6th to June 14th of

593
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:28,520
 2021, staff conducted a speed study on Moore Street and found that 12.9 percent of drivers

594
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:35,520
 going eastbound and 18.7 percent of drivers going westbound were speeding.

595
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:41,440
 Based on these results, there were measures speeding on Moore Street.

596
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:46,000
 So staff has been working with the police department to increase enforcement based on

597
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,840
 the results received.

598
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:53,600
 In this area, we've also worked with the PD to deploy what we call driver feedback signs.

599
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:59,480
 So what that is is when you're driving, you actually will see a detection that shows if

600
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,920
 the speed limit is 30 miles per hour, it will show you're going 37 miles per hour, and it's

601
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:10,400
 a recollection, so individuals understand the speed they're actually going in this area,

602
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,480
 and we're going to be working on that to notify residents of their actual speed, and we'll

603
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,580
 be reevaluating this segment in six months, and we're currently evaluating the use of

604
00:41:19,580 --> 00:41:21,920
 additional signage in the area.

605
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,920
 One of the things that staff has actually looked at is how many speed limit signs are

606
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,840
 actually along Moore Street.

607
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:33,760
 It's a wider cross-section, it also includes a hill, and so individuals are actually, based

608
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,600
 on the data you can see, they're actually speeding in this area, so it's very much an

609
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,160
 area that we're looking at what are some additional things that can be done, and evaluating the

610
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,840
 number of signs on this street, so we're looking at the use of additional signage in this area

611
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,320
 for speed limit signs.

612
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,800
 And then the third street that we actually looked at was Lakey Street, and staff conducted

613
00:41:53,800 --> 00:42:00,460
 speed studies along Lakey, south of Wilson Street, from June 8th to June 14th.

614
00:42:00,460 --> 00:42:07,040
 Based on those results, about 1.4% of drivers were speeding, and staff noted and shared

615
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:12,120
 the data with PD to increase enforcement based on the results received in this area.

616
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:17,080
 So I'm going to, are there any questions specifically about the speeding concerns before I go to

617
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,080
 the next item?

618
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:23,680
 - Council Member Byrd?

619
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:35,040
 - My particular concern is for Moore Street, and then I'll add Curly Street onto this conversation.

620
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:44,840
 I know that we're doing, you're saying something about police enforcement, and it just seems

621
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:49,520
 like it could be something else done more than police enforcement.

622
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:57,240
 I know that I've driven that street, and there is not very much signage on Moore Street as

623
00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:01,960
 well as Curly Street.

624
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:13,360
 The tool that you're using to notify drivers of their speed is so close to the stop sign,

625
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:18,240
 a driver would be practically slowing down to stop.

626
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:22,400
 It's gotta be less than 50 yards.

627
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:30,440
 So I purposely went, made a right turn to go west, I'm sorry, yeah, to go west on Moore

628
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:38,200
 Street, and immediately came upon the sign, and then just another 50 yards there, you're

629
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,440
 stopping at a stop sign.

630
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:46,960
 So I would certainly move that to maybe the center of that roadway, since it's such a

631
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,640
 long, wide road.

632
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:58,520
 I don't think that it will just give enough information to the drivers that are smoothly

633
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,400
 going down the road.

634
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:07,600
 I do know that there's not, it just looked like there was only a couple of speed signs,

635
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,960
 one at the beginning of the road and one towards the end of the road, and not one in the middle

636
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,560
 of the road.

637
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:21,040
 There's a bushy street that intersects that roadway, I thought that that might be a great

638
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:27,240
 opportunity to put a slow down sign there, or a stop sign, I don't know how it will work,

639
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:30,720
 but it sits in the center of that road there.

640
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:35,680
 So we've been having a lot of complaints for a number of years about that roadway from

641
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,960
 that community, and I'm just really glad to see that there's some attention being paid

642
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,160
 to it now.

643
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:48,880
 The other thing is that I just happen to be on Woodrow, is that Woodrow, yeah that's Woodrow,

644
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:57,040
 that's in front of North Lakes Park, that is Woodrow, it's a long road that goes, Windsor,

645
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:06,080
 Windsor, where did I go, Windsor, and I think that that's a great opportunity for us to

646
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:11,680
 possibly look at the way that that road is striped, it does have room, because it's such

647
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:20,140
 a wide road, it has room for maybe an area for parking, and then it had the bike lanes

648
00:45:20,140 --> 00:45:29,200
 on the inside, and then it had pretty much a one lane to drive, but it also had a turn

649
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:37,880
 lane in the middle, and would you all connect that Woodrow, sorry say it again, what was

650
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:47,600
 that road I was trying to think of, Windsor, to see maybe if that style of play could work

651
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:54,280
 on Moore Street, where there's, it's just, we need to narrow, I think we just need to

652
00:45:54,280 --> 00:46:00,600
 calm that road down quite a bit, and if we're talking about some parking, and then some

653
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:05,080
 bike lanes, because we have, it shows we have bike lanes, but of course they're worn out,

654
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:10,760
 you can't see the bike lanes, it just says share the road, and then have the middle lane

655
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:17,280
 as turn lanes that might be helpful, just offering some, you know, just some thoughts

656
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:23,880
 on that, as well as Curly Street, that road, Moore Street doesn't even have sidewalks,

657
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:30,160
 and I know the kids from Tomas Rivera, they're having to walk down that road to get to their

658
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:35,320
 little neighborhood, so that's also part of the concern, I do know that we're going to

659
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:43,360
 be doing some utility work on that road, so I'm just trying to connect the timeline for,

660
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:51,480
 is it worth the effort to do all of the striping and, you know, possible suggestions before

661
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:58,760
 we get to the utility work under that road, is all of that, does that sound feasible to

662
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:05,000
 put all of that energy into it now, and then we're going to pull that road up, and do the

663
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,440
 utility work?

664
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:07,440
 Talk to me about that.

665
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:13,120
 Sure, no, I appreciate the feedback, definitely we'll work with the police department to look

666
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:18,960
 at where the driver feedback sign is deployed, to see if there's a better location for that,

667
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:24,220
 we don't mind looking into that at all, I appreciate the feedback on Windsor as an example

668
00:47:24,220 --> 00:47:29,840
 of the type of roadway that you're envisioning for Moore Street, I will tell you that we

669
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,560
 will want to coordinate with the 2019 bond program projects, just because we don't want

670
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,600
 to put something down that's going to be torn up, but if there's a gap of time that's going

671
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:44,640
 to be more substantial than what's anticipated, or work that's not going to be done on one

672
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,160
 of those particular streets, then that's something we can evaluate.

673
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:54,520
 In your last Friday report that we also produced, we've already worked with the police department

674
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,920
 and then our traffic operations department, Chandra, our senior traffic engineer, has

675
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:03,680
 worked to look at locations, and we're going to be installing some additional speed limit

676
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:08,000
 signs along Moore Street to help with some of that also, I believe there were only a

677
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,480
 couple of signs, and we felt like that there could be some increased number of signs in

678
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,300
 that area also, just to notify drivers, like you mentioned, it's a wide street and a rather

679
00:48:16,300 --> 00:48:21,240
 long street, just to notify them so that they're not going a long period of time without actually

680
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:25,920
 having a sign for their knowledge and for their use.

681
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:32,240
 But happy to look into Windsor, I will tell you there are more things happening on Windsor

682
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:37,960
 due west of that location, with the 35 project, and then also some of the plans for that future

683
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:43,960
 Westgate and Windsor area, but I think you brought up some valid concerns and some ideas,

684
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:49,880
 and so happy to look into those things, what I will do is work to add that to a future

685
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:55,080
 agenda item and bring that back for you, and we'll also bring back an update on the signs

686
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,680
 that are deployed on Moore Street, evaluate curly to see if there's anything additional,

687
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,760
 and I know we've provided some of that information previously, see if there's anything additional

688
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:09,400
 that needs to be done, and then look at what could happen to Morris, maybe one of the things

689
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:14,720
 that has been talked about before, and this may be kind of where your thoughts are, is

690
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:19,920
 a more of a roadway diet type project, and so definitely something that we're willing

691
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,200
 to look into, just want to make sure we're coordinating.

692
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,240
 As you mentioned, we don't want to put something down that could be torn back up, so I appreciate

693
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:30,640
 you bringing those forward, and definitely we'll add that to our future agenda item to

694
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:31,640
 the next meeting.

695
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:42,940
 Sir, I have one more question, do we have children at play signs, or watch for kids,

696
00:49:42,940 --> 00:49:50,560
 or I see some of those somewhere, are the communities putting those out, or do the cities

697
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:56,080
 coordinate reminding drivers that children are in the area?

698
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:01,120
 Sure, so we have several different types of signs, and actually the traffic operations

699
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:06,880
 department notified me that starting October 1, they're going to be doing a 5-year program

700
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:12,980
 to do those regulatory signs, and that's really all over the city as a replacement and installation

701
00:50:12,980 --> 00:50:18,240
 of those regulatory signs, and then the next 5 years, they're going to be looking at doing

702
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:25,680
 some of those more warning type signs, but due to the fact that the MLK Recreation Center

703
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:31,520
 is located very close to that at Thomas Riviera, I'm happy to work with the traffic operations

704
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,400
 department and our traffic engineering to see if there's additional signs that could

705
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,360
 be added, such as what you're speaking about, just due to the fact that there are a lot

706
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:44,560
 of children in that area that are working to make their way either to school or to the

707
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:50,400
 recreation center, so we're happy to look into those, and those are signs that we do

708
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:59,880
 capture and deploy.

709
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,320
 We can skip the next item.

710
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,620
 The next item we're going to skip?

711
00:51:03,620 --> 00:51:04,620
 No, I'm just kidding.

712
00:51:04,620 --> 00:51:08,280
 I was going to say, you're going to give me a free pass on that?

713
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:09,280
 No, I'm kidding.

714
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,920
 Okay, so the next item is the latest OCI number for West Oak between Bradley and Thomas Street.

715
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:20,960
 So the new overall condition score for Bradley between Thomas Street, but Oak Street between

716
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,260
 Bradley and Thomas is 49.

717
00:51:23,260 --> 00:51:27,880
 This compares to 77, which was the score for the same segment in 2015.

718
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,560
 So obviously, the score has decreased.

719
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:35,600
 I know it's very much something that you're interested in, as I know that there were concerns

720
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,360
 with the actual construction of that area.

721
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:44,240
 Was this like a stunning bit of news?

722
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:49,140
 Did this give you new information to find out that it scored well?

723
00:51:49,140 --> 00:51:51,360
 I don't believe it's stunning information.

724
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,520
 I mean, I understand and drive the roadway myself.

725
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:55,520
 I understand the concern.

726
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:56,520
 Yeah, it's okay.

727
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:57,520
 All right.

728
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:58,520
 Just checking, making sure we're...

729
00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:59,520
 No, sir.

730
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:00,520
 We're on the same wavelength.

731
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:01,520
 Yes, sir.

732
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:02,520
 Okay.

733
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:03,520
 Sorry, carry on.

734
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:04,520
 No, you're fine.

735
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,720
 But I think really what the next steps are to look at what could happen in this area,

736
00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:12,000
 as I mentioned before, some of the testing methods, and John was just talking about one

737
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,120
 of them with the coring that's being done.

738
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:20,160
 That's a testing method to look at the actual geotechnical determination below the roadway

739
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,160
 surface.

740
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,520
 And so this is definitely a street that due to the fact that the OCI has decreased, it'll

741
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:30,440
 be something that's going to be evaluated as part of a replacement program.

742
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,120
 What I have known to date is it's not...

743
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:36,440
 I'm not aware of a program that it's currently on, but something that we will continue to

744
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,580
 work with the streets department to see if it's something that can be added.

745
00:52:39,580 --> 00:52:42,680
 And I do realize that it was just recently replaced in that area.

746
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:43,680
 Yeah.

747
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:44,680
 I mean, we know all the facts.

748
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:51,920
 It's just, you know, for all the resurfacing and reconstruction going on in the city, for

749
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:57,240
 something that egregious, you know, not to be able to make it on a list is just baffling

750
00:52:57,240 --> 00:52:58,240
 to me.

751
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:03,040
 So I'm very hopeful that you'll crack that nut.

752
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,040
 Sure.

753
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:05,940
 No, I appreciate that.

754
00:53:05,940 --> 00:53:09,640
 And we will definitely work with the streets department and see if there's anything additional

755
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,240
 that can happen in that area.

756
00:53:11,240 --> 00:53:14,800
 So appreciate you bringing that to our attention.

757
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:19,880
 The next item we're going to talk about is really their proactive traffic safety measures.

758
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:24,880
 So in the July 30th Friday report, we talked about the, and this was a request that came

759
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:30,620
 up from the last meeting, the citywide speed reduction and some of the questions resulting

760
00:53:30,620 --> 00:53:31,620
 in that.

761
00:53:31,620 --> 00:53:37,600
 So on June 28th, council member Beck inquired about the speed reduction strategies and the

762
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:43,600
 way, you know, that staff could be more proactive in identifying areas where speeding is a concern.

763
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,160
 And we just talked about a couple that council member McGuire brought up.

764
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,560
 I'm sorry, council member Bird brought up.

765
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,840
 So currently speed studies are being conducted on an as requested basis.

766
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:59,660
 With school starting, you know, and this is when it was put in the July 30th report.

767
00:53:59,660 --> 00:54:04,680
 So with school about to start and the traffic patterns normalizing, then staff will reinitiate

768
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,120
 efforts for that citywide speed study in the fall.

769
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,480
 And then we've already began that and we see two of the individuals in the audience today

770
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,800
 that are working on that.

771
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:18,760
 One is our senior planner, bicycle ADA, pedestrian coordinator, and then also our senior traffic

772
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:19,760
 engineer.

773
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:27,840
 And when we begin working on moving forward with a citywide speed study, we will be bringing

774
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:34,120
 back to you on September 28th during the council presentation, the mobility plan, and it will

775
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,560
 touch the surface of some of the different measures that we're doing, whether they're

776
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:43,040
 traffic safety measures, whether they're measures specifically related to bicycle and pedestrian,

777
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,320
 or whether they're project-related measures.

778
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,840
 And so you'll see some of that within the mobility plan, but really this is just to

779
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:55,320
 let you know that we are moving forward with that citywide speed study.

780
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,600
 We feel like we have all of the individuals in the right seats on the bus so that we can

781
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:00,600
 move forward.

782
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:01,600
 - Council Member McQuarrie.

783
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:02,600
 Sorry, go ahead.

784
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:03,600
 - Sorry, first.

785
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:04,600
 - Come on now.

786
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:05,600
 There we go.

787
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:14,920
 So I'm just curious to know a little bit more about the speed study and what that's gonna

788
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:15,920
 look like.

789
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:21,240
 Is this primarily like a paper and pencil exercise, or are there gonna be staff like

790
00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:26,160
 out on the streets with radars and taking speed measurements?

791
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,160
 How does this work?

792
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,160
 - Sure.

793
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:35,480
 I'm gonna ask Chandra to come down and describe to you the actual study and let him describe

794
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,680
 to you some of the next efforts.

795
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,800
 We know it's gonna take some time to collect data, and so he can describe those things

796
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:42,800
 to you.

797
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:43,800
 - Good morning.

798
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,880
 This is Chandra with Traffic Engineering.

799
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:53,240
 Citywide speed study, how we do is we select the corridors that are throughout the city,

800
00:55:53,240 --> 00:56:00,280
 and we have contracted with CJ Henge, and they use video cameras, and wherever it cannot

801
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:06,560
 be done, they use those tubes laid out on the street, and they get speeds in different

802
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,120
 sections so we can see the pattern.

803
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:16,960
 And from there on, we get the data back, either like video or Excel spreadsheets, so we can

804
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:21,600
 interpret it and make appropriate changes in the field.

805
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:22,600
 - Thank you.

806
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,000
 And a follow-up question.

807
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:31,320
 Is it sort of gonna be like random streets being studied, or can you speak to which streets

808
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,320
 are gonna be studied?

809
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:39,120
 - We will be selecting based on the speed requests or issues that we got in the past,

810
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,440
 and also proactively we select a lot of corridors.

811
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:48,320
 Pretty much the citywide arterial collectors, not much on the residential streets, except

812
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,440
 if there is any past issues that we had.

813
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:52,440
 - Okay.

814
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:53,440
 Thank you.

815
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:54,440
 - You're welcome.

816
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,040
 - Did you have a question?

817
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,440
 - Yeah, Council Member Rupert.

818
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:07,040
 - How is it determined what speed a street would be?

819
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:14,120
 - The collector streets get more priorities, arterials, and residential streets that make

820
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:21,000
 more like a longer length, like where it has the possibility for driving faster and things

821
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,000
 like that.

822
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,600
 We have those metrics, we go by.

823
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:35,400
 - So if a neighborhood says that their street at 30 miles per hour is too high, can they

824
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:44,040
 petition the city to bring the street speed down five miles per hour, if they like to,

825
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,400
 collectively?

826
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:50,720
 - In the state of Texas, the premature speed limit, which is the default speed limit, is

827
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,640
 30 miles per hour.

828
00:57:52,640 --> 00:58:00,040
 If there is any safety issues that's been already there, like crashes or severe injuries

829
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:08,000
 or fatalities, we can take a look at it, and we have room to adjust lower to speed limits

830
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:16,560
 to 25, but not everywhere, except if it poses an unsafety issue out there.

831
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:21,320
 And schools are generally, in those school zones, it's 20 miles per hour.

832
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,120
 And hospital areas are 25.

833
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:30,840
 Those are already being taken into account, and the Texas Transportation Court provides

834
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,040
 those provisions for those special conditions.

835
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:35,280
 - Okay.

836
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,560
 So just a general complaint that, oh, they're going too fast down my street, can you lower

837
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,000
 the speed limit?

838
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:46,120
 Doesn't necessarily, it has to have provisions to be done, because that question has been

839
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:47,120
 asked to me.

840
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:56,120
 - 30 is the, if there is a sign, or there is no sign, 30 is the state's residential

841
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,120
 speed limits.

842
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,120
 - Okay.

843
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:02,520
 - And if there is any safety issues, we can address those with the countermeasures that's

844
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:03,520
 appropriate.

845
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:04,520
 - Thank you.

846
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:05,520
 - Sure, welcome.

847
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,400
 - And Council Member Burt, I would just add to that, that's where we can deploy measures

848
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:13,800
 such as our speed studies to actually evaluate the individual street to see if there are

849
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:14,800
 concerns.

850
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:21,960
 But we do our best to follow the codes, and the criteria, and the traffic manual documents

851
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,000
 that are state-forward, state-wide.

852
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,920
 So we're very much interested in getting this speed study completed.

853
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,720
 And there are some individual streets that, you know, whether we've received the speed

854
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,960
 study complaints, we'll also be hand-selecting, as Chandra mentioned, some of the other areas

855
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:40,920
 that are arteriolus collectors that we know, you know, there are concerns, or areas where

856
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,960
 we just want to have that as a part of the evaluation due to the amount of traffic that's

857
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:45,960
 on that area.

858
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:46,960
 So.

859
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:55,120
 - What is the percentage that you have to get to bring a level of concern?

860
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,520
 - I would say that that's really on a case-by-case basis.

861
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,440
 Chandra, I don't know if you want to speak to that.

862
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:00,440
 - Sure.

863
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:04,880
 Usually in the state of Texas, it's the 85th percentile.

864
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:11,700
 At least, say, 85 percent of the drivers, what they drive the speed would be the natural

865
01:00:11,700 --> 01:00:16,080
 speed on those streets, and there could be the rest 15 percent which could be driving

866
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:21,840
 either slower, or they could be driving faster, but we target for those 85 percentile.

867
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:29,920
 And we have, but the codes, we have plus or minus five miles from those 85 percentile.

868
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:35,160
 We have the leverage to adjust it.

869
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:39,040
 - Thank you, Chandra.

870
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:43,240
 So I'm going to move on to item number seven because Mr. Polster and Mr. Campbell need

871
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,840
 to leave for another meeting.

872
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:50,140
 So I'm going to skip the next couple, and then I'm going to work towards talking real

873
01:00:50,140 --> 01:00:52,020
 quickly about Elm and Locust.

874
01:00:52,020 --> 01:00:55,560
 So I know there was a question earlier from Council Member McGuire specifically related

875
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,240
 to Elm and Locust and the public outreach.

876
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:04,880
 And I think Travis mentioned this, John has mentioned this, I also will echo that we've

877
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:09,680
 been coordinating with TXDOT on a very regular basis to address the roadway condition of

878
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:15,520
 Elm and Locust, and that would all be due south of the courthouse where the Pecan Creek

879
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:20,800
 Phase Four project was that was a utility relocation reconstruction project for both

880
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,160
 water sewer and a drainage installation.

881
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:29,140
 And over the past month, staff has conducted weekly meetings with TXDOT area to discuss

882
01:01:29,140 --> 01:01:30,600
 that path forward.

883
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:35,440
 There's been a lot of public outreach by the project manager who is now a program manager,

884
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,360
 but he has had lots of conversations.

885
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,800
 I know TXDOT also has had conversations.

886
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:47,640
 We anticipate having those next steps identified as Travis mentioned and John mentioned they're

887
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:52,600
 doing the coring right now to really look at what is the replacement measures that can

888
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,120
 be made in that area and what needs to happen with that roadway.

889
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:01,840
 Obviously, we all know it needs to be reconstructed, but as was mentioned, they need the data to

890
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:06,440
 actually be able to see what type of surface that needs to be replaced and what those improvement

891
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,120
 measures are.

892
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:12,240
 We actually have work to schedule and Travis will be on that call with us.

893
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,240
 There's going to be a meeting.

894
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:19,600
 It's going to be a virtual downtown community meeting on October 14th.

895
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,280
 And that's where the improvement measures will be discussed.

896
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:28,080
 It's hopeful that we'll have the data back by that time and we may not, and if we don't,

897
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:33,920
 we will find that opportunity to inform the public at a later date, but really just wanted

898
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:39,600
 to have that opportunity to bring forward anyone in that area who has questions or concerns

899
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:43,880
 and have representatives from the city and also TXDOT on the same call so that we could

900
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,760
 talk about Elm and Locust and the concerns that have been raised.

901
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,560
 I will tell you that our staff is committed to answering and being a part of any of the

902
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,320
 questions or concerns that come up.

903
01:02:54,320 --> 01:03:00,240
 We have had questions and concerns that have arisen, and I know that our staff has been

904
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,480
 very much active in meeting with those individuals, even meeting on site with those individuals

905
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,320
 and talking through those concerns.

906
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,080
 So I look forward to that meeting.

907
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:12,240
 It's about a month away where we're going to have that opportunity to really discuss

908
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,160
 that entire downtown area.

909
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:23,240
 Councilmember McGuire. Great, I just want to thank you for being

910
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,040
 proactive about that and scheduling that meeting.

911
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,160
 I know that this is a challenging situation.

912
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:34,000
 I know that there are a lot of stakeholders who are very concerned, and it's possible

913
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:38,240
 that in the past some balls may have been dropped that have made this more of a challenge

914
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:44,000
 that it needs to be, but I just want to commend all the staff that's working on it currently

915
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:50,520
 for doing your very best with a very challenging situation, so thank you.

916
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:51,520
 No problem.

917
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:52,520
 I appreciate it.

918
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:53,920
 We're just doing our job.

919
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,440
 We just want to make sure that we can coordinate the best we can.

920
01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:01,840
 So we look forward to that, and I know John and Travis both, and John may even be on that

921
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,760
 meeting with us also.

922
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,720
 So I know we look forward to that conversation, and if there's questions that we can't ask

923
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:12,480
 during that, obviously we'll get back to the residents or citizens that have questions.

924
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,560
 So I appreciate that.

925
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:15,560
 All righty.

926
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:19,240
 So, Mr. Polster, Mr. Campbell are going to need to leave, so I appreciate you all letting

927
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:20,840
 me go to item number seven.

928
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,080
 Thanks, Jones.

929
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:28,400
 So I'm going to move back to, I guess it's item number five, and that's the Southeast

930
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:29,940
 Denton construction.

931
01:04:29,940 --> 01:04:35,760
 So we provided in the Friday report on July 23rd, you know, some updates to the Southeast

932
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:43,000
 Denton reconstruction project, and during the July 21st mobility committee meeting,

933
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:47,480
 Councilmember Byrd had requested information on when roadway construction would begin in

934
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,160
 that neighborhood.

935
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:54,280
 So there are 73 street segments that are planned to be constructed as a part of the 2019 bond

936
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:55,400
 program.

937
01:04:55,400 --> 01:05:00,800
 You will also find in your backup and attachment the first phase of the 22 segments, and then

938
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:05,520
 a complete list of all of the planned segments in that entire area.

939
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:10,400
 We anticipate the construction contract for phase one to be advertised for the selection

940
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:15,720
 of the contractor by December of 2021, and I will tell you, we have meetings actually

941
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:19,720
 today to be talking through some of those items.

942
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:25,080
 So we're very much excited to get that project started, and the information for the specific

943
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,240
 roadway segments is provided in the backup.

944
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:36,320
 All righty, so also with that, I will mention that there were some traffic calming measures

945
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,960
 that were developed and a flyer that actually was developed that I know that we gave to

946
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:45,240
 Councilmember Byrd, and that flyer is also attached in your backup.

947
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:50,120
 I know there was a Southeast Denton neighborhood meeting a few weeks back where we provided

948
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:57,760
 not only the actual flyer of the Sedna neighborhood, the entire bond project, and we also provided

949
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:03,720
 that traffic calming measures flyer, so I'm happy to do that and send that along to anyone

950
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,720
 else who has any questions, but just wanted to make sure everyone knows that that's included

951
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,120
 in your backup.

952
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:16,920
 All righty, so the next concern that was brought forward was the Hodge traffic safety, and

953
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,960
 this is in regards to the Hodge Elementary, and the traffic concerns.

954
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:27,400
 I know Councilmember Beck brought this up at the August 19th, in August 19th, and really

955
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:33,560
 talking about could we evaluate that situation, and really the concerns for the queuing of

956
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:39,300
 the drop-off and pick up in this area, and Staffel-Wazurb and the measures and traffic

957
01:06:39,300 --> 01:06:45,960
 cues from the school, really what we're working towards is wanting to do this and working

958
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:51,480
 towards getting this in our queue, actually to do a study of looking at this area.

959
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:56,400
 I wanted to take the opportunity for school to get back in the routine.

960
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,400
 I know the first few weeks of schools, you know, family members like to take their children

961
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:05,720
 to school, and then as the time passes, that may not be the same pattern that happens once

962
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:11,840
 people get used to the routine, so we actually are looking at evaluating and observing some

963
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:13,560
 of those things in that area.

964
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:17,120
 We've reached out to the principal of Hodge Elementary and are working on coordinating

965
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:22,800
 with the principal also, any feedback that they're receiving, and once the study is completed,

966
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:27,360
 we will report back with our mitigation measures in that area, but I want you to know that

967
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:31,560
 we definitely understand there's some concerns for the pick up and drop-off times.

968
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:35,680
 Just wanted to get a good data set that really represents exactly what's happening in that

969
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:36,680
 area.

970
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:51,040
 Yeah, I was thinking about this situation, and what came to mind was the way that that

971
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:57,720
 neighborhood is, where that neighborhood is going to be situated, I can't imagine those

972
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,840
 folks coming out of that neighborhood and always making a left turn.

973
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:06,760
 It would be a right turn out to the street, I mean out to 288.

974
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:13,040
 So on that, at that time when we were looking at all of the discourse and the concerns from

975
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:18,960
 the neighborhood, it appeared as though that they were concerned more about getting to

976
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:24,320
 the school, more so than leaving out of the neighborhood.

977
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:31,360
 So if you would put that in your hat to consider that those kids that would be moving into

978
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:37,880
 that brand new neighborhood, they would not be bussed, they would have to walk to school.

979
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:45,880
 I would be more concerned about sidewalk safety and that kind of thing, more so than the street

980
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:55,120
 because what we saw on the video, it was very congested, it was very, it was just unhealthy

981
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:58,040
 for us to consider.

982
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:03,100
 So just put in the back of your mind, just write a little note to the side that a majority

983
01:09:03,100 --> 01:09:08,160
 of the time that those new neighbors would be coming in, they most likely won't be going

984
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:13,120
 in further into the neighborhood, but they would be going out to 288.

985
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:19,400
 - No, that's a valid comment and I appreciate that very much.

986
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:26,200
 Alrighty so then the last thing that is really on the specific staff report today is asking

987
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:30,720
 to look at traffic calming considerations for older neighborhoods that would include

988
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:31,720
 roadway diets.

989
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:36,320
 We just talked about this a little bit on Moore Street with wider streets and as we

990
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:40,960
 previously talked about, the Citywide Speed Study will incorporate some of these older

991
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:46,000
 neighborhoods and evaluate the need for traffic calming measures and we've also included a

992
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:50,380
 flyer that shows some of the traffic calming measures that the city may be looking at implementing

993
01:09:50,380 --> 01:09:54,560
 in certain areas where we do have concerns for speeding.

994
01:09:54,560 --> 01:10:01,200
 And so just wanted to make sure that you all had a copy of that and also kind of talks

995
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:07,320
 about the process of which we follow, where we receive the request, verify the request,

996
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:12,320
 do an on-site visit and then also work through that traffic study.

997
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,800
 Just to kind of go over some of those examples of traffic calming measures, obviously there's

998
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,320
 the police department enforcement.

999
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:21,840
 We work very heavily and closely with the traffic division of the police department.

1000
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,160
 There are opportunities to install speed limit or supplemental signage.

1001
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:30,460
 I know Council Member Byrd, you just asked specifically about supplemental signage.

1002
01:10:30,460 --> 01:10:33,540
 Speed humps are always a consideration.

1003
01:10:33,540 --> 01:10:37,200
 One of the things that comes up for speed humps is we have to coordinate specifically

1004
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,760
 with our fire department and our police department.

1005
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,960
 As speed humps do slow down individuals driving down the road, it also slows down the emergency

1006
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:49,800
 response and that's something that we take very seriously, obviously.

1007
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:54,240
 Roadway narrowing or road diets as they're called, really making that roadway if it's

1008
01:10:54,240 --> 01:11:02,500
 wide, really making that roadway more narrow to allow for one way of travel each direction.

1009
01:11:02,500 --> 01:11:08,080
 One-way streets, you know, that's something else that can be put into play.

1010
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:11,960
 And then of course there's additional different measures and we gave you a website here where

1011
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:16,320
 you can look at other measures and this is obviously not a comprehensive list, but just

1012
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:20,880
 some of the ideas that we use when these concerns come forward is what is the best tool in our

1013
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:26,720
 toolkit that we can use to help make a difference and make a proactive measure for these areas.

1014
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:30,440
 So I just wanted to mention that.

1015
01:11:30,440 --> 01:11:35,600
 And then the last item, unless anybody has any questions, I'm sorry, I'll look back down.

1016
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,600
 Councilmember McQuarrie.

1017
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:46,880
 So I'm, thank you for using the phrase road diets because I think I was searching for

1018
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:51,020
 that phrase at our last meeting and was struggling to come up with it and I can't remember.

1019
01:11:51,020 --> 01:11:53,200
 I apologize if I'm repeating myself.

1020
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:57,800
 I can't remember if I just thought this in my head or if I said it out loud to you.

1021
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:06,840
 But is Bell on your radar as a possible candidate for a road diet?

1022
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:12,040
 Bell Avenue currently is not really a project that we're looking at as a road diet and a

1023
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:17,960
 road diet, it doesn't really meet the criteria because it's not as a wide of a street as

1024
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:19,600
 some of the other streets.

1025
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:27,040
 There are areas maybe from I would say Mingo North as you get into campus, whether it's

1026
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:33,960
 wider and some of those areas are left turn lanes or I guess there is a left turn lane

1027
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,200
 in one of those areas.

1028
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:41,840
 But Bell per se, mostly going through the college campus is a roadway that is narrow

1029
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:45,000
 and already has a lot of the medians in those areas.

1030
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,120
 So not a particular street that we're looking at.

1031
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:53,760
 One of the ones that is in the process of looking at and we've just talked about is,

1032
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,800
 you know, is there options for roadway diets along Moore Street?

1033
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,280
 Would that make sense or would that not?

1034
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:03,680
 I know one that's been talked about in the past is Carroll Boulevard, but currently Carroll

1035
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,120
 Boulevard is in a little bit different scenario.

1036
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:11,640
 I do realize it's six lanes, but it's something that we would coordinate with TxDOT.

1037
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:17,560
 And I will tell you that in some of these roadway diet areas and TxDOT coordination,

1038
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:22,380
 we're looking at trying to really work on getting Elman Locust to where it needs to

1039
01:13:22,380 --> 01:13:24,120
 be before we focus on.

1040
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:29,400
 A lot of other projects that we'll be coordinating with TxDOT, I know at one time there was the

1041
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:35,600
 idea of coordinating with TxDOT on all of the projects that the city could take over

1042
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:40,600
 the responsibility of, but we, with the new leadership, have worked on focusing specifically

1043
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:41,600
 on Elman Locust.

1044
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:45,580
 And then, of course, if there's other areas of concern, talking about those too.

1045
01:13:45,580 --> 01:13:51,440
 But instead of trying to take over all of the roadways that TxDOT's currently managing,

1046
01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:54,840
 we're really wanting to focus our efforts on making sure we get Elman Locust taken care

1047
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:55,840
 of first.

1048
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:56,840
 Yeah, absolutely.

1049
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:57,840
 And that makes sense.

1050
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:03,200
 I mean, there's obviously an enormous amount on your plate right now.

1051
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:10,160
 I should clarify that what I meant was more like Bell from Eagle to McKinney, taking it

1052
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:18,480
 from four lanes to two single direction lanes with a turn lane, that type of road diet.

1053
01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:25,640
 But again, I recognize that there's quite a few things in line ahead of something like

1054
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:26,640
 that.

1055
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:27,640
 Sure.

1056
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:32,720
 And I'm sorry I immediately went north, and that was where my head was.

1057
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:39,440
 But at this time, I'm not aware of us looking at a roadway diet on Bell from Eagle to McKinney.

1058
01:14:39,440 --> 01:14:44,280
 I think it's something that we could possibly look at in the future, but currently not any

1059
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:49,380
 plans to do that in that area that I've been aware of.

1060
01:14:49,380 --> 01:14:51,340
 But happy to evaluate.

1061
01:14:51,340 --> 01:14:52,340
 Yeah.

1062
01:14:52,340 --> 01:14:58,480
 I'd like to gently suggest that at some point, not that you don't have enough to do, but

1063
01:14:58,480 --> 01:15:05,440
 at some point that that may be on the department's radar as a candidate for a road diet.

1064
01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:14,920
 And I'm particularly thinking about, so that we can add bike lanes, because it's a really

1065
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:16,840
 dense area of town.

1066
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:23,600
 It's kind of an artery that leads to downtown, and the sidewalks are very narrow.

1067
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,560
 There aren't connected sidewalks all the way along.

1068
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:34,760
 On the east side of Bell, just north of Eagle, there are no sidewalks, and so we really,

1069
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:39,160
 I think, need greater pedestrian and bicycle connectivity in that area.

1070
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:40,160
 Sure.

1071
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:44,440
 No, I appreciate that feedback, and I know Nathan is listening intently.

1072
01:15:44,440 --> 01:15:49,400
 He has some of the same ideas that you have in some of those areas, and actually, we have

1073
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:55,440
 been taking the mobility plan, the different maps with the sidewalk, the bicycle, and also

1074
01:15:55,440 --> 01:15:59,720
 the thoroughfare plan, and looking at what are the best use of those roadways, and really

1075
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:04,200
 wanting to be able to get people to the center hub, which we consider the downtown area,

1076
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,320
 but then also being able to move throughout the city.

1077
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:13,080
 And so he is evaluating some corridors that could be specific routes, such as Bell, to

1078
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:18,320
 be able to have people have the ability to actually use multimodes of transportation.

1079
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:23,800
 I mean, obviously, there's the DCTA rail that stops there.

1080
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:31,080
 You can take your bicycle on the rail, and then be able to use it from that rail center

1081
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:36,120
 at Hickory and Railroad, and then get on your bicycle and ride into town, et cetera.

1082
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:41,080
 So definitely some of those corridors, and I think you'll see we've been diligently marking

1083
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:45,680
 up the mobility plan maps and moving forward, and some of that will actually be shown at

1084
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:50,840
 the meeting that is Thursday night for the comp plan as the mobility plan is a part of

1085
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:51,840
 that presentation.

1086
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:52,840
 Great.

1087
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:53,840
 All right.

1088
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:54,840
 Thank you so much.

1089
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:55,840
 Oh, no problem.

1090
01:16:55,840 --> 01:17:08,200
 That's my preferred I travel on 288 quite often, and I've often noticed that there's

1091
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,640
 you can tell what people are walking and there's no sidewalks.

1092
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:17,880
 How do you how do you how does the city evaluate something like that I'm talking about from

1093
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,600
 McKinney all the way into Spencer Road.

1094
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:27,320
 I often I do see just worn down paths.

1095
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:32,240
 How does something like that come about in to be able to put a sidewalk there.

1096
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:33,240
 Sure.

1097
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:38,720
 So, like I mentioned, the sidewalk plan is something that is a part of the mobility plan.

1098
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:44,520
 So that's one thing that not always does everyone understand is the actual mobility plan is kind

1099
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:45,960
 of a three legged plan, right.

1100
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:50,240
 So it has the, the bicycle component, the pedestrian component, and then of course the

1101
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,200
 thoroughfare component.

1102
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,640
 And most people are thinking in the terms of the thoroughfare component, just because

1103
01:17:55,640 --> 01:18:00,400
 obviously a lot of people drive cars, but we do have the sidewalk component.

1104
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:05,200
 So a couple of things I'll tell you is Nathan's working on a sidewalk work plan that evaluates

1105
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:11,440
 areas or gaps where we do see some of that foot traffic that you're speaking to.

1106
01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:16,680
 We also have other areas that we have a GIS system that's basically showing any of the

1107
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:21,620
 gaps that we have, or any of the improvement measures that need to be made.

1108
01:18:21,620 --> 01:18:26,120
 Evaluating that along with the ADA transition plan and then of course the parks trails plan.

1109
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:31,080
 So Nathan has been tackling that and working through evaluating all of those different

1110
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:32,080
 plans.

1111
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:36,440
 I will tell you that there are some developments that are going on along loop 288 that will

1112
01:18:36,440 --> 01:18:40,660
 be required to build sidewalk and so then it's, or there are certain sections that need

1113
01:18:40,660 --> 01:18:46,220
 to be filled in and one of the things we're evaluating on the loop itself is with the

1114
01:18:46,220 --> 01:18:50,940
 new structure, the junction for the people experiencing homelessness, we want to make

1115
01:18:50,940 --> 01:18:56,600
 sure that they have the ability to go from the junction all the way down to Serve Denton.

1116
01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:01,860
 And so we want to make sure they have that ability and have that ability to do that safely.

1117
01:19:01,860 --> 01:19:05,600
 And so at this point they would have to walk all the way down to McKinney across McKinney

1118
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,180
 where the crosswalk is and then back north.

1119
01:19:08,180 --> 01:19:11,720
 But there are evaluations that also we're looking at are there additional traffic signals

1120
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:16,240
 that are needed along the loop or then we could provide for cross access or would it

1121
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:20,720
 make more sense for them to go north across prominent square and then down in front of

1122
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:21,800
 the female location.

1123
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:26,760
 So you know I would see if there's any particular area where it looks like there would be the

1124
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,080
 intention or the need for sidewalk.

1125
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:32,120
 That's always something we'd like for you to bring to our attention but we do have a

1126
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:35,540
 work plan that Nathan is currently working through.

1127
01:19:35,540 --> 01:19:39,240
 We have a couple of years of projects that are already underway.

1128
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:43,720
 Some are under construction some are under design but we're going to be evaluating individual

1129
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:49,560
 areas and I would also mention that during the 2019 bond program part of what we're doing

1130
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:54,440
 is evaluating sidewalk gaps in some of those residential streets where we want to be able

1131
01:19:54,440 --> 01:20:03,520
 to fill in so that we have that continuity.

1132
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,800
 I was wondering about McKinney Street now I'm kind of being a little nosy right now.

1133
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:11,120
 You know just curious about McKinney Street.

1134
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:21,640
 Any plans for between McKinney I mean I'm sorry between Woodrow and 288.

1135
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:27,320
 So between Woodrow and loop 288 so the city currently is constructing from loop 288 to

1136
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:28,520
 the east.

1137
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:34,280
 The section between Woodrow and McKinney is not a current capital project but the city

1138
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:40,520
 has submitted it to the county as a possible project for their bond package because it's

1139
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:45,480
 not something that's currently included or funded but obviously know that there's improvement

1140
01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:49,000
 measures that could be made not only from a sidewalk perspective a draining drainage

1141
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:54,160
 perspective and then also an ultimate roadway configuration to make that road wider than

1142
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:55,160
 it currently is.

1143
01:20:55,160 --> 01:21:01,280
 So currently the city's plan and Rachel and myself have worked on this together is submitting

1144
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:05,380
 that to the county of which we've already turned in that project as a possible project

1145
01:21:05,380 --> 01:21:10,920
 to be a part of that county bond election that they're anticipating and the time frame

1146
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:15,520
 on that has been changing a little bit but definitely something on our radar that we

1147
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:20,680
 want to evaluate because we just want to continue to move that roadway in and make those improvements

1148
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:26,800
 the closer we get to town no problem.

1149
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:33,000
 Okay so then the last item well two things I have one is you don't have any minutes in

1150
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:38,200
 your packet today we will have a double set of minutes in your packet the next meeting

1151
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:42,240
 unfortunately we made an error and did not include that in the agenda so not something

1152
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:48,200
 that we can have done today so I was all prepared to advise council members to try to restrict

1153
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:56,320
 the speeches and the invective when reviewing the minutes but so next next meeting you'll

1154
01:21:56,320 --> 01:22:00,440
 have two sets of minutes so that'll be easy peasy.

1155
01:22:00,440 --> 01:22:04,400
 And then the other thing I just wanted to mention was going through I think according

1156
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:09,800
 to the future staff report and updates and agenda items we have covered all of the different

1157
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:15,160
 items I'd like to request to remove all of the items except for the ones that you have

1158
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:21,760
 asked us to follow up on which I would say specifically is in relation to the speeding

1159
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:28,640
 concerns one that was on Morris and then also councilmember Berge brought up Curly and then

1160
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:34,680
 I know councilmember I'm sorry Mayor Pro Tem Malter you're interested in seeing if and

1161
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:39,400
 when Oak Street is going to be a part of an improvement measure so there are a few of

1162
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:43,920
 them that we have follow up on but any of the ones that we feel like we have addressed

1163
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:48,040
 we'd like to request to remove those and just want to make sure that that's okay with the

1164
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:51,440
 committee to request any of the ones that we feel like we have taken the opportunity

1165
01:22:51,440 --> 01:23:00,760
 to answer any objections.

1166
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:04,400
 I'm looking right now at the identified items of interest for future staff reports is that

1167
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:08,960
 what you're talking about yes ma'am exhibit number five so those are items and all of

1168
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:14,280
 the items that were listed from the July 21st meeting we've brought back feedback for you

1169
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:19,980
 on those any of the items that we have had discussion on or we have follow a future follow

1170
01:23:19,980 --> 01:23:25,340
 up on will continue to keep those on the agenda and bring those back at the next meeting unless

1171
01:23:25,340 --> 01:23:29,320
 it takes additional research will bring it out the meeting prior to you know following

1172
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:33,960
 that but if there's a particular item that we have addressed we'd like to remove that

1173
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:39,680
 from the overall agenda and just put it in the items completed okay yes yeah that's that's

1174
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:44,700
 fine sorry I don't know what I thought I was hearing but that's obviously fine yes that's

1175
01:23:44,700 --> 01:23:49,000
 no problem and the so the last item with that is we'd like to see if there's any additional

1176
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:54,800
 items that you would like to add for any updates or any additional agenda items that we can

1177
01:23:54,800 --> 01:24:01,880
 add to bring back to you at the next meeting on your mark get set

1178
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:07,680
 I mean you know just just those ongoing things the speed study the I mean you know a lot

1179
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:13,040
 was already raised yeah during the meeting yeah I would like to ask for an update on

1180
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:20,280
 the hinkle roundabout of what was planned what's already been done and as have we seen

1181
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:24,360
 a measurable benefit

1182
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:29,920
 no problem and definitely something we can work with the operations department and they

1183
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:35,040
 are currently working on that project so happy to bring back an update on the hinkle roundabout

1184
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:57,800
 no problem at all my primary concern at this point would be the college view neighborhood

1185
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:04,000
 there are some streets that still don't have curbs and I'm very concerned about that area

1186
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:08,880
 I know they're very quiet area and they be maybe missing out because they don't speak

1187
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:19,960
 very loudly paisley and Campbell's streets I think that's Campbell they just don't have

1188
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:27,200
 curves I don't know why we have streets in our center areas that are that don't have

1189
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:36,080
 curves and they have bike lanes perceived bike lanes they have mailboxes sitting in

1190
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:46,320
 the middle of sidewalks so just that little quiet neighborhood the college view neighborhood

1191
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:57,520
 north of McKinney Campbell street wood street you know those areas there would you all give

1192
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:03,840
 that some attention there they're not going to they're not going to let me know so I want

1193
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:10,960
 to be there for them and let them know that I do want to keep Roodale Roodale and paisley

1194
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:17,600
 that's my biggest contention right there I know that there's probably some we talked

1195
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:23,520
 about Roodale at one point that where they're going to go north you know from mingo that

1196
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:28,280
 Roodale is supposed to connect some kind of way there but I'm down here on paisley and

1197
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:37,080
 going north south to McKinney Street sure so you all take a look at that and I want

1198
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:43,400
 to give that area some attention I don't know anybody that lives over there but maybe one

1199
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:48,920
 person but I know that there and I don't have anybody to connect to sure you don't have

1200
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:53,760
 an association or anything like that so we want to be mindful and take care of those

1201
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:59,680
 folks in that area no I appreciate that we will go back and look at if there were plans

1202
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:04,060
 and what was approved in that area and then also look at if there's anything that's planned

1203
01:27:04,060 --> 01:27:07,920
 in the future for a capital project any of that area which would bring it up to a current

1204
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:14,460
 standard but happy to look into that to see if there's any improvement measures that are

1205
01:27:14,460 --> 01:27:18,720
 currently planned and maybe the reasons why some of the things you're bringing forward

1206
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:23,240
 I can't answer why they don't have curves or why there's mailboxes in the middle of

1207
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:31,400
 sidewalks but I'm happy to evaluate no problem all righty well that's all I have for today

1208
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:40,640
 sir okay thought to ponder but a road diet be paleo I think I think it would be we'll

1209
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:42,680
 adjourn our meeting at 1029.