WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:12.800 Okay, it is 903 and we have a quorum, so it's called to order the Public Utilities Board 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:17.040 meeting for the City of Denton on Monday, September 13th. 00:00:17.040 --> 00:00:22.400 Before we go into public comment period, I'd like to welcome Mr. Larry Beck to the Public 00:00:22.400 --> 00:00:23.400 Utilities Board. 00:00:23.400 --> 00:00:25.720 He'll be a good addition. 00:00:25.720 --> 00:00:29.300 Does anybody in the audience wish to speak? 00:00:29.300 --> 00:00:31.960 Do we have anyone on the phone wishing to speak? 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:34.960 No, ma'am, no callers for today. 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:36.020 Thank you. 00:00:36.020 --> 00:00:39.320 We have a closed session scheduled. 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:43.760 If there are any board members who want to go into closed session to ask questions about 00:00:43.760 --> 00:00:49.760 item A that's on the consent agenda, does any board member wish to go into closed session? 00:00:49.760 --> 00:00:55.520 Okay, seeing none, we don't need a closed session. 00:00:55.520 --> 00:01:00.440 Do we have any board member who wishes to pull an item off of the consent agenda from 00:01:00.440 --> 00:01:03.040 items A through J? 00:01:03.040 --> 00:01:05.680 I see none. 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:08.640 Do we have a motion to approve items A through J? 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:11.280 I'll move approval. 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:12.280 Second. 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:13.800 All in favor say aye. 00:01:13.800 --> 00:01:14.800 Aye. 00:01:14.800 --> 00:01:15.800 Opposed? 00:01:15.800 --> 00:01:18.080 That carries. 00:01:18.080 --> 00:01:22.440 Item 3A, consider approval of the minutes from August 23rd, 2021. 00:01:22.440 --> 00:01:26.880 Do we have any corrections or changes? 00:01:26.880 --> 00:01:29.240 Do we have a motion to approve? 00:01:29.240 --> 00:01:31.880 So moved. 00:01:31.880 --> 00:01:32.880 Barbara moves. 00:01:32.880 --> 00:01:33.880 Do we have a second? 00:01:33.880 --> 00:01:34.880 Second. 00:01:34.880 --> 00:01:36.760 All in favor say aye. 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:37.760 Aye. 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:38.760 Opposed? 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:40.640 That carries. 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:44.280 Item B, consider recommending the adoption of an ordinance for the city of Denton, a 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:49.760 Texas Home Rule Municipal Corporation, to execute a contract with Classic Chevrolet for light 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:52.800 duty trucks. 00:01:52.800 --> 00:01:58.600 Good morning, board. 00:01:58.600 --> 00:01:59.600 Morning. 00:01:59.600 --> 00:02:01.920 My name is Terry Kader. 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:12.720 I'm figuring out how to share the screen here. 00:02:12.720 --> 00:02:20.480 My name is Terry Kader. 00:02:20.480 --> 00:02:23.200 I'm the fleet superintendent for the city of Denton. 00:02:23.200 --> 00:02:28.280 This contract is a five-year contract for the purchase of light duty vehicles. 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:38.880 Light duty vehicles would include sedans up through one-ton trucks. 00:02:38.880 --> 00:02:46.200 Just a little background on the current contract we have or the previous contract with a local 00:02:46.200 --> 00:02:57.080 vendor here, James Wood, and we purchased approximately 35 units annually off the contract. 00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:01.640 Over the life of that contract, we purchased approximately 100 vehicles and we anticipate 00:03:01.640 --> 00:03:05.000 pretty similar on this new contract as well. 00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:11.840 This contract, the previous contract did not include police pursuit vehicles, TAHOs, and 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:17.560 we began purchasing General Motors products in about the year 2010, so we've been standardized 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:23.660 to GM for the last 11 years. 00:03:23.660 --> 00:03:28.200 Just some examples of light duty vehicles that would be your pickup trucks. 00:03:28.200 --> 00:03:31.680 They could be with a regular pickup or they could have utility beds. 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:36.320 Some of the lighter platforms of one-ton can carry utility beds as well. 00:03:36.320 --> 00:03:44.520 Sedans, electric vehicles, hybrids, the police TAHO on this particular contract has included 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:49.360 support vehicles for the fire department, and then any other sedans or trucks that the 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:50.360 city uses. 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:56.280 There's a picture there of a new Equinox that was just purchased for the police department. 00:03:56.280 --> 00:04:06.240 I wanted to go over a couple of advantages for having a contract like this, and I think 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:10.560 one of the biggest advantages is that it reduces the time for procurement. 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:11.560 Yes, sir. 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:12.560 Yes, sir. 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:13.560 I have a quick question. 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:19.640 What's the current make-up of the fleet in terms of cars, sedans, trucks, SUVs, or do 00:04:19.640 --> 00:04:21.180 you have that information? 00:04:21.180 --> 00:04:24.720 I don't have the exact numbers in front of me. 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:32.840 It's a variety, probably a lot more trucks and SUVs currently than there are sedans. 00:04:32.840 --> 00:04:37.960 We'll see in the future, a lot of automakers are ceasing production of sedans. 00:04:37.960 --> 00:04:41.720 We're going to see a lot more pickup trucks and a lot more utility vehicles as well as 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:45.920 a lot more electric EV platforms become available. 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:49.240 Thank you. 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:55.520 For procurement time, a lot of our departments are in high need of having their vehicles 00:04:55.520 --> 00:05:00.320 replaced and over the last two years since COVID had, it's been a struggle. 00:05:00.320 --> 00:05:06.200 It's not business as usual and this next purchasing cycle won't be any different. 00:05:06.200 --> 00:05:12.680 Automakers are still struggling to get the chips needed to build the vehicles and just 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:19.020 having a contract is going to help that in the fact that the vendors have already reached 00:05:19.020 --> 00:05:22.840 out to us to get an idea of how many vehicles and what type of vehicles we're going to 00:05:22.840 --> 00:05:24.540 purchase this year. 00:05:24.540 --> 00:05:29.440 So they have an allocation and our vehicles are already included in that allocation so 00:05:29.440 --> 00:05:35.080 we don't have to wait until, we don't have to wonder if there's going to be build spots 00:05:35.080 --> 00:05:38.680 left for the vehicles that we want so that's a big plus. 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:44.240 This contract also includes discounts for parts and repair services, body shop services, 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:49.400 these are things that we would normally send out anyway to the local vendors and of course 00:05:49.400 --> 00:05:54.200 the standardization of the fleet is important because it just creates efficiencies through 00:05:54.200 --> 00:05:59.320 training, through having parts on the shelf for the vehicles and the need for specialized 00:05:59.320 --> 00:06:05.600 tools and equipment to include diagnostics and that type thing. 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:10.380 This contract includes all available GM models and future models will be added to the contract 00:06:10.380 --> 00:06:15.720 as they become available right now so that trucks, vans, SUVs and electric vehicles are 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:17.200 all part of the contract. 00:06:17.200 --> 00:06:27.920 It is a three-year contract with two one-year renewal periods and the discount for body shop 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:33.400 work is 15% for parts and labor on body repairs and we send a significant amount of those 00:06:33.400 --> 00:06:38.520 out for repairs since we don't have the capability to perform those services in-house. 00:06:38.520 --> 00:06:44.640 We think we're going to purchase probably 40 vehicles annually and spend just an average 00:06:44.640 --> 00:06:52.320 of 1.2 million, of course that all depends on the five-year replacement schedule which 00:06:52.320 --> 00:06:58.820 vehicles become eligible for replacement and then as the departments determine their needs 00:06:58.820 --> 00:07:05.980 what vehicles will be added to the fleet so we've included a slide here showing the planned 00:07:05.980 --> 00:07:11.040 replacements for this next coming year and if you do the math you'll see it doesn't 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:15.800 add up to 1.2 million because some of this contract is maintenance or repair, some of 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:21.520 the contract is additions that I don't have, those will have to be approved before we can 00:07:21.520 --> 00:07:29.840 add them to the list and it also includes lower amounts in the initial terms of the 00:07:29.840 --> 00:07:34.040 contract because we all know prices will increase over the next five years so initially we won't 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:38.760 be spending that 1.2 but at the end of the contract we're probably overall six million 00:07:38.760 --> 00:07:45.000 dollars and that's only if we need to spend that, that we're not obligated to spend it's 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:52.200 only as departments need so I included a slide on the replacement criteria because that's 00:07:52.200 --> 00:07:59.160 always a point of interest and in our replacement most of our sedans and light trucks in this 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:05.800 category are ten-year life cycles, our police patrol vehicles are in seven-year life cycle. 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:10.040 I'm not so concerned about the age of the vehicle, I'm more concerned about the maintenance 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:17.800 cost of the vehicle so age isn't a very high weight factor for us in fleet but mileage 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:22.540 and maintenance costs are so these are trigger points that tell us it's time to take a look 00:08:22.540 --> 00:08:28.800 at replacing that particular vehicle and we try to get 100,000 miles out of a typical 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:32.000 truck and 130 out of a police vehicle. 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:36.320 We will typically do that on patrol units because they run a lot. 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:40.960 We may not reach the life cycle in pickups and sedans necessarily or when we do it's 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:45.680 going to be over the ten-year life span which is okay as long as we can still procure parts 00:08:45.680 --> 00:08:52.020 for that unit and as long as the maintenance points aren't over five so in our fleet system 00:08:52.020 --> 00:08:59.280 it tracks cost of vehicles and the life cycle cost for maintenance is zero to ten points 00:08:59.280 --> 00:09:04.720 and at five that's the place on the curve where it's advantageous to start looking 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:08.400 at replacing that vehicle once it gets up towards eight or ten points you're really 00:09:08.400 --> 00:09:12.640 putting more money into maintenance than you should be and you should look at replacing 00:09:12.640 --> 00:09:18.600 that or you should have already replaced it so that's kind of our criteria. 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:23.600 Five points represents half of the initial cost of the vehicle in case you're wondering 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:24.600 about that. 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:25.600 Question? 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:26.600 Yes. 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:38.960 How do you decide, let's see, how do you decide what you get, what goes electric, what stays? 00:09:38.960 --> 00:09:39.960 That's a great question. 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:45.320 So the first thing we look at is the needs of the department and what platforms or vehicle 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:50.480 that will are available that will suit their particular needs and then the next thing we 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:59.000 look at is the engine driveline and the actual platform hybrid or electric so if the department 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:03.920 has a need for a certain type of vehicle and it is available as an electric or a hybrid 00:10:03.920 --> 00:10:07.720 we will definitely take a look at that and we'll have a committee that's put together 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:15.480 to look at each purchase and see and then the committee will be made up of various department 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:21.440 personnel as well so we'll be taking a look at the purchase and see what suits the needs 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:27.880 of the department, what's available and then can we go electric with it because electric 00:10:27.880 --> 00:10:34.400 vehicles are going to be the future and a lot of that depends too on our charging capability. 00:10:34.400 --> 00:10:40.840 What is, would you know, what is the policy about the employee taking home? 00:10:40.840 --> 00:10:46.200 I understand the wisdom of having a police and take his police car home because I think 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:51.640 that is a deterrence but how do you decide within the department who takes their vehicle 00:10:51.640 --> 00:10:56.040 home and who just drives to work and gets in the city vehicle? 00:10:56.040 --> 00:10:59.760 The fleet department doesn't necessarily make that decision that's left up to the departments 00:10:59.760 --> 00:11:05.240 but primarily it's police and fire right now, there are some departments that have to respond 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:10.720 when they're called out, water and electric has some take home vehicles but it's limited, 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:15.800 it's limited to those people that are on call for a particular incident so the majority 00:11:15.800 --> 00:11:19.800 of take home vehicles in the city are emergency type vehicles. 00:11:19.800 --> 00:11:21.200 Thank you. 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:22.200 Billy? 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:23.200 Yes sir. 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:28.440 I guess my question is about moving to classic from James Woods, how did that happen? 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:32.520 Well when we put the bid out we submitted it to four different dealerships within the 00:11:32.520 --> 00:11:40.040 city of Denton and I think a lot of it had to do with timing and the fact that the auto 00:11:40.040 --> 00:11:44.680 manufacturers are still up and near about what they're going to manufacture and how 00:11:44.680 --> 00:11:51.640 many they're going to manufacture so my understanding was that when we put the bid out the pricing 00:11:51.640 --> 00:11:56.800 for next year 2022 models hadn't even been given to the manufacturers yet, it wasn't 00:11:56.800 --> 00:12:02.720 right to the very end before the bid could be submitted but our local dealer chose not 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:04.400 to submit a bid this time. 00:12:04.400 --> 00:12:05.400 Okay. 00:12:05.400 --> 00:12:06.800 Well that makes that easy. 00:12:06.800 --> 00:12:07.800 Yeah. 00:12:07.800 --> 00:12:08.800 Yes sir. 00:12:08.800 --> 00:12:11.720 Where is classic based? 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:19.760 Classic is in Grapevine I think, Richardson I believe, Grapevine, yes sir. 00:12:19.760 --> 00:12:26.080 We, that's it for the presentation, I'll be happy to answer any other questions, yes 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:27.080 sir. 00:12:27.080 --> 00:12:36.240 This purchase is based on the needs for what you currently, can you hear me okay, I better, 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:41.840 I've always been guilty of that, based on what you currently have in stock or does this 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:45.960 look at future needs as we grow, is that. 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:51.200 This does have vehicles added in for future needs but it also primarily looked at our 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:55.440 five-year replacement plan that we currently have so we looked at the next five years what's 00:12:55.440 --> 00:13:01.040 becoming eligible and then we know about what the fleet growth has been in the past and 00:13:01.040 --> 00:13:04.400 that's what I used to predict, how many units we might add to the fleet in the future and 00:13:04.400 --> 00:13:06.520 we put that in there as well. 00:13:06.520 --> 00:13:07.520 Thank you. 00:13:07.520 --> 00:13:08.520 More questions. 00:13:08.520 --> 00:13:13.640 Madam Chair, before we move on I just wanted to recognize Terry and his staff, you know 00:13:13.640 --> 00:13:19.000 they recently recognized, they received a gold level award for the Clean Cities Coalition, 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:23.160 this is the second year in a row so I think the City of Denton does a really good job 00:13:23.160 --> 00:13:28.560 of making sure we're aware of the environmental impacts that our fleet has on the local region, 00:13:28.560 --> 00:13:29.560 so. 00:13:29.560 --> 00:13:31.000 That's wonderful, congratulations. 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:32.800 Thank you very much. 00:13:32.800 --> 00:13:40.800 All right, do we have a motion to approve item B? 00:13:40.800 --> 00:13:41.800 So moved. 00:13:41.800 --> 00:13:42.800 Okay, we move. 00:13:42.800 --> 00:13:43.800 Second. 00:13:43.800 --> 00:13:44.800 Devin seconds. 00:13:44.800 --> 00:13:48.560 All in favor say aye. 00:13:48.560 --> 00:13:49.560 Aye. 00:13:49.560 --> 00:13:50.560 Opposed? 00:13:50.560 --> 00:13:51.840 That carries. 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:56.000 BMC, consider recommending the adoption of an ordinance with the City of Denton, a Texas 00:13:56.000 --> 00:14:01.400 Home Rule Corporation, authorizing the City Manager to execute a contract with Primors 00:14:01.400 --> 00:14:04.480 T&D Services LLC. 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:07.920 Good morning. 00:14:07.920 --> 00:14:11.040 Good morning. 00:14:11.040 --> 00:14:22.680 Good morning. 00:14:22.680 --> 00:14:52.440 Well, I'm trying to get it to go bigger. 00:14:52.440 --> 00:15:08.120 Good morning, I'm Brad Watts, Operations and Maintenance Line Division Manager and this 00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:14.480 morning I wanted to talk to you, give a presentation about our overhead maintenance construction 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:19.760 contract and my glasses are going to fog up so I might have to step back or pull them 00:15:19.760 --> 00:15:26.600 down, but I'll give it my best shot. 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:30.440 First I'm going to give you a little bit of background, you know, about our overhead contract. 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:36.280 We currently are just, you know, came out of a contract that was our overhead construction 00:15:36.280 --> 00:15:41.280 and maintenance contract and now we're, you know, trying to renew a new one and that's 00:15:41.280 --> 00:15:47.360 going to supplement our in-house staff force with qualified personnel and some things that 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:53.640 kind of drive, you know, having a contract with a contractor would be emergency response, 00:15:53.640 --> 00:16:00.120 large projects and unfortunately now staff shortages with COVID, you know, employees 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:06.400 being sick or having to be quarantined and then, you know, back on the emergency response, 00:16:06.400 --> 00:16:12.240 you know, a prime example is, you know, Louisiana, Mississippi and the coast with the hurricanes. 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:16.440 We don't get them up here, knock on wood, but we do have ice storms and, you know, we 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:22.000 can get remnants of a hurricane and then the City of Denton, the RFP, requested a full 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:27.800 service contractor capable of providing overhead line construction and maintenance services. 00:16:27.800 --> 00:16:33.320 These services will include, but are not limited to, installation of new or replacement of 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:40.600 existing overhead and underground electrical facilities on the system. 00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:47.520 All electrical construction material will be provided by the City of Denton. 00:16:47.520 --> 00:16:53.160 And back on the main utilization of this contract will be pole replacements. 00:16:53.160 --> 00:16:59.600 Currently in, well, in 2019, DME initiated a pole inspections project that inspected 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:06.920 the existing 12,000 poles within DME's infrastructure that's supporting the 352 miles of overhead 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:09.080 conductor. 00:17:09.080 --> 00:17:15.600 These poles that are on our system, they range from installation from the 1960s to current 00:17:15.600 --> 00:17:17.520 time. 00:17:17.520 --> 00:17:24.600 So far, we've inspected around 75% of our overhead infrastructure to date and we have 00:17:24.600 --> 00:17:34.360 identified 1,199 poles to be replaced, having replaced 170 so far of those poles. 00:17:34.360 --> 00:17:40.720 The overhead construction lines make up 43% of DME's infrastructure. 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:45.280 The other remaining, of course, is the underground. 00:17:45.280 --> 00:17:51.000 And this is some pictures of our poles that we've replaced and a good, good picture will 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:53.600 be the picture on the right. 00:17:53.600 --> 00:17:57.760 When they're inspecting poles, they're not just inspecting from the ground up, they're 00:17:57.760 --> 00:18:02.880 inspecting from the ground down because the ground down is usually where you're going 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:11.800 to have the damage on your poles, where, whether it be rot or insect infestation on it or just, 00:18:11.800 --> 00:18:13.480 just a bad pole. 00:18:13.480 --> 00:18:19.000 And that's a really a good picture of what that'll look like when we find them. 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:23.040 And with this, we're seeking approval of a contract for the supply of overhead electric 00:18:23.040 --> 00:18:28.600 lines construction and maintenance services for the city of Denton with Primor's T&D services 00:18:28.600 --> 00:18:34.080 for five years and the not to exceed amount of $15 million. 00:18:34.080 --> 00:18:38.880 And of that $15 million, I mean, we've got different types of poles out there. 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:44.560 We've got single phase, B phase, three phase, which is one, two, or three phases. 00:18:44.560 --> 00:18:49.280 And every pole can be unique as far as changing it out, as far as getting just a price to 00:18:49.280 --> 00:18:50.840 change that pole out. 00:18:50.840 --> 00:18:57.000 It's going to vary based on, is it in a back alley, is it up on the street, or what all's 00:18:57.000 --> 00:19:02.040 on there, cable, cable TV, telephone, transformer services. 00:19:02.040 --> 00:19:07.640 I mean, it varies, you know, greatly, but with that, I'll answer any questions y'all 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:08.640 might have. 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:09.640 Yes, sir. 00:19:09.640 --> 00:19:10.640 I have a question. 00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:11.640 Yes, sir. 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:14.520 You said you, in your presentation, you replaced 170 poles so far. 00:19:14.520 --> 00:19:15.520 Yes, sir. 00:19:15.520 --> 00:19:20.600 Out of 1200 out of a 75% inspection rate. 00:19:20.600 --> 00:19:26.720 So I'm curious what pace you intend to replace the poles at if you have that many to replace. 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:29.520 Over this three to five-year period? 00:19:29.520 --> 00:19:30.520 That's a good question. 00:19:30.520 --> 00:19:36.220 We, when they, when the pole inspector gives us the inspections, it's broken down, it kind 00:19:36.220 --> 00:19:42.600 of rates them from really bad, which we call priority, to another type of a priority pole, 00:19:42.600 --> 00:19:45.680 which is not as bad, and then it goes down from there. 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:50.240 The pole's working, it's not a danger pole, and currently the priority pole, that's number 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:53.200 one on our list, and so we stay on top of those. 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:54.880 I mean, they're changed out immediately. 00:19:54.880 --> 00:20:00.120 When we get the inspections report, and we get them weekly, the crews are sent out, whether 00:20:00.120 --> 00:20:05.760 it was a contractor or an in-house crew, the pole is changed out right then. 00:20:05.760 --> 00:20:10.880 I mean, we get it off the system, and we'll also rank them down from that. 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:17.280 I mean, from priority down to the least, you know, that's not dangerous. 00:20:17.280 --> 00:20:23.600 And so we'll, we work backwards on that from our really bad poles to not as bad poles. 00:20:23.600 --> 00:20:27.280 And to answer your question, as far as how fast, as fast as we can do it, I mean, because 00:20:27.280 --> 00:20:28.280 it's... 00:20:28.280 --> 00:20:31.840 Well, I'm just curious, because if you've identified roughly 1,200 so far, and you've 00:20:31.840 --> 00:20:38.360 only replaced 170, I don't know what percentage of that 1,200 you consider priority. 00:20:38.360 --> 00:20:45.200 I would say, out of the, I probably, well, I mean, it would be really low percentage, 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:51.120 because we've only identified, I think the number's 30 priority poles that were just 00:20:51.120 --> 00:20:55.680 dangerous poles, and then from there out, I don't have those numbers, but I can get 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:56.680 them for you. 00:20:56.680 --> 00:21:05.120 Just from my own thinking, so you looked at the 1,200 poles and replaced 170, and you've 00:21:05.120 --> 00:21:12.680 got 30 more to do, so that's 200, so that's about, what, 1,615 percent, thereabouts? 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:13.840 Yes, sir. 00:21:13.840 --> 00:21:14.840 Okay. 00:21:14.840 --> 00:21:15.840 Thank you. 00:21:15.840 --> 00:21:21.440 Oh, button. 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:25.080 There you go. 00:21:25.080 --> 00:21:27.160 Thank you, Chair. 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:33.200 So, we have 12,000 poles, and you said you've inspected 75 percent of the infrastructure? 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:34.200 Yes, sir. 00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:37.120 So 8,000, 8,000 have been inspected? 00:21:37.120 --> 00:21:42.280 And is, like, expected life, like, 50 years or 30 years? 00:21:42.280 --> 00:21:47.120 Usually, I mean, that can range, I mean, depending on the soil and things like that, you know, 00:21:47.120 --> 00:21:51.360 how much moisture is on the pole, but I mean, a good number is 30 to 35 years is what a 00:21:51.360 --> 00:21:52.360 pole will last. 00:21:52.360 --> 00:21:58.080 Okay, and I guess, I mean, in the last 20 years, we've replaced hundreds or 1,000 poles, 00:21:58.080 --> 00:22:05.120 I guess, over, as needed, this seems like it's an ongoing, you know, a never-ending 00:22:05.120 --> 00:22:06.120 process. 00:22:06.120 --> 00:22:07.120 It is. 00:22:07.120 --> 00:22:12.960 I mean, every year, you want to inspect some 10 percent of your poles or, you know, some 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:17.760 amount of your poles, and then you're going to be replacing, of those 12,000 poles, you 00:22:17.760 --> 00:22:23.920 can say in 30 or 40 years, you're going to replace all 12,000, so you expect to replace 00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:27.120 whatever that is, 500 a year. 00:22:27.120 --> 00:22:28.120 That's very possible. 00:22:28.120 --> 00:22:32.360 Yeah, and part of this is, as the city's grown, that pole was installed 20 years ago 00:22:32.360 --> 00:22:38.400 or 30 years ago, they're just now starting to age out as like, as kind of areas of the 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:41.960 city have expanded. 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:49.960 If it's going to be a permanent ongoing process, would it be better over time for the city 00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:55.320 to just expand its staff and take this work on, you know, and this can be in a five or 00:22:55.320 --> 00:23:00.800 10-year period, but if we're going to be replacing 100 poles a year, 200 poles a year, 500 poles 00:23:00.800 --> 00:23:06.280 a year, you know, in five years from now, could we have a plan to have enough staff 00:23:06.280 --> 00:23:10.440 to do the inspections and do the replacements in-house? 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:13.440 Good question, Mr. Taylor. 00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:16.360 I'm Chris Ludrick, the executive manager of operations. 00:23:16.360 --> 00:23:22.400 So one thing that we should state is this pole inspection task that we took on is new. 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:23.920 We have not done that in the past. 00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:28.880 There was not a pole inspection program in place, so we were more of a reactive. 00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:31.200 So we would have a pole break. 00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:34.740 We had the infamous windstorm of Bonnie Bray that took down the entire line, and then we 00:23:34.740 --> 00:23:35.920 would go repair it. 00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:41.180 So to be more proactive, we hired a company that's actually doing the pole inspections 00:23:41.180 --> 00:23:43.800 for us, and that will be periodic going forward. 00:23:43.800 --> 00:23:46.440 So maybe you only need it every five years. 00:23:46.440 --> 00:23:50.520 But this first allotment of this 1,200 poles, that's because we looked at every pole in 00:23:50.520 --> 00:23:53.720 the city, even ones that have been in the ground for a year. 00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:58.320 So to give us a benchmark, so we'll bring in this contractor to get this big, you know, 00:23:58.320 --> 00:24:03.880 this big glut of backlogged bad poles out of the way, then going forward, it would be much 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:05.400 more manageable. 00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:11.280 And Brad's guys, if they do have time, so if there's staff available, we can change out 00:24:11.280 --> 00:24:12.280 the poles ourselves. 00:24:12.280 --> 00:24:16.960 But we'll elect to use the contractor to carry the bulk of this so that our maintenance crews 00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:19.120 aren't tied up all the time working on that. 00:24:19.120 --> 00:24:23.200 But yes, definitely going forward, it should be a much more manageable task that we can 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:26.120 take care of in-house. 00:24:26.120 --> 00:24:27.120 Thank you. 00:24:27.120 --> 00:24:28.120 You're welcome. 00:24:28.120 --> 00:24:29.120 Go ahead. 00:24:29.120 --> 00:24:30.120 Thank you. 00:24:30.120 --> 00:24:36.960 Kind of as a corollary to Mr. Taylor's concern, has your department weighed the merits and 00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:43.160 cost of treated wood posts as opposed to metal posts? 00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:44.920 I couldn't hear all the questions. 00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:53.160 Has your department weighed the merits and cost of treated wood posts versus metal posts? 00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:54.160 Would there be? 00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:59.280 That would be an engineering question that I'm in the industry, I mean, that's an ongoing 00:24:59.280 --> 00:25:05.440 question that's been supported, but that would be an engineering question, and we'll certainly 00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:06.440 get that for you. 00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:12.640 Okay, but there's nothing just at the top of your head that says one's better than the 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:13.640 other? 00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:16.000 Yes, sir, Mr. Beck. 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:21.720 So the costs are significantly more for the metal poles than they are for the wooden poles. 00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:23.360 The initial cost or the overall? 00:25:23.360 --> 00:25:29.000 The initial cost, and you also have to remember that those, unless you put galvanized poles 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:33.680 everywhere, which is not the standard in distribution because it's very unsightly, that those poles 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:34.880 also rust as well. 00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:38.340 So they have a life expectancy just like the wood poles. 00:25:38.340 --> 00:25:43.480 So the wood poles are very easy for our guys to work, and as we try to maintain a 30-minute 00:25:43.480 --> 00:25:48.040 outage on repairing those poles, they're just very easy to work with. 00:25:48.040 --> 00:25:57.080 So they are by far the industry standard electric guys talking in the lights, I believe. 00:25:57.080 --> 00:25:59.080 Another question. 00:25:59.080 --> 00:26:04.160 Another question separate from that, I'm assuming just based on my observation that as new developments 00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:08.360 come in, we don't do the above-ground electrical, it all goes underground, is that correct? 00:26:08.360 --> 00:26:09.360 That is correct. 00:26:09.360 --> 00:26:12.160 All new construction for residential is underground. 00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:19.960 Any thought to replacing what we got above ground to underground as it allows, as conditions 00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:20.960 allow? 00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:21.960 Yes, sir. 00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:22.960 We do. 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:25.600 The cost difference is significant, maybe three times. 00:26:25.600 --> 00:26:28.400 So we would take budgetary constraints in mind. 00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:29.680 We also take reliability. 00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:35.280 So if a circuit in our Kings Row area, that part of town, a lot of those lines are in 00:26:35.280 --> 00:26:36.280 the backyards. 00:26:36.280 --> 00:26:38.120 They're very hard for us to get to. 00:26:38.120 --> 00:26:42.120 So those are things that we do consider as far as, "Hey, when we replace this line, do 00:26:42.120 --> 00:26:43.840 we need to put it underground?" 00:26:43.840 --> 00:26:48.560 Unfortunately, some of the construction techniques where you have fences backing up to fence 00:26:48.560 --> 00:26:53.040 and that line runs in the back, it's not very conducive to put it in an underground circuit 00:26:53.040 --> 00:26:57.600 because all of those houses are fed overhead, you would have to convert every service for 00:26:57.600 --> 00:26:58.600 every house. 00:26:58.600 --> 00:27:04.760 So it is definitely something we look at and we actually do have a budgetary category that 00:27:04.760 --> 00:27:09.640 we put in our budget every year to transition some existing overhead to underground. 00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:12.400 Right now the logistics of it makes it pretty difficult. 00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:13.400 Yes, sir. 00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:14.400 That's correct. 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:15.400 Thank you. 00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:18.280 Well, Mr. Beck also pointed out that the council did ask us to look at potentially undergrounding 00:27:18.280 --> 00:27:20.320 certain areas of the city. 00:27:20.320 --> 00:27:23.880 We are currently working through that and do plan to have a report back to the council. 00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:30.280 We'll also share with the PUB sometime before the end of this month. 00:27:30.280 --> 00:27:34.080 Just understand that it'll be a big ticket item. 00:27:34.080 --> 00:27:38.600 But again, it was a response to one of the council priorities I think from a year ago 00:27:38.600 --> 00:27:41.960 that we're still working on, but we'll get that to you. 00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:48.360 I think it was just a few years ago that you redid Southridge, you replaced all the lines 00:27:48.360 --> 00:27:49.360 out there. 00:27:49.360 --> 00:27:50.360 Yes, ma'am. 00:27:50.360 --> 00:27:52.480 If I'm remembering correctly. 00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:54.520 All right. 00:27:54.520 --> 00:27:57.840 Any other questions? 00:27:57.840 --> 00:28:02.280 Do we have a motion to approve item C? 00:28:02.280 --> 00:28:03.280 So move. 00:28:03.280 --> 00:28:04.280 Thank you, Devin. 00:28:04.280 --> 00:28:05.280 I'll second. 00:28:05.280 --> 00:28:06.280 Okay. 00:28:06.280 --> 00:28:07.280 Larry seconded. 00:28:07.280 --> 00:28:08.280 All in favor say aye. 00:28:08.280 --> 00:28:09.280 Aye. 00:28:09.280 --> 00:28:10.280 Opposed? 00:28:10.280 --> 00:28:11.700 Motion carries. 00:28:11.700 --> 00:28:16.240 Consider recommending the approval of an ordinance amending the city's fund balance policy related 00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:19.440 to the utility fund reserve levels. 00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:22.400 Good morning, Chair, PB members, Nick Vincent, Assistant Director of Finance. 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:26.560 I'll do my best to talk as loud as possible with this mask on. 00:28:26.560 --> 00:28:42.080 Okay, so welcome to Mr. Beck, glad to have you on the Public Utilities Board to continue 00:28:42.080 --> 00:28:45.160 our conversations regarding the fiscal year 2021-2022 budget. 00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:47.280 A little bit of recap. 00:28:47.280 --> 00:28:51.920 So if the PB or members, we did complete a detailed fund balance analysis this spring 00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:55.280 of the city's fund balance policy for the utilities. 00:28:55.280 --> 00:28:59.280 Based on that result of that study, we were looking to increase the reserve requirement 00:28:59.280 --> 00:29:02.680 for the electric utility, and that's what today's conversation is focused on. 00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:05.520 Sir, could you speak up or move the microphone up? 00:29:05.520 --> 00:29:06.520 Let me. 00:29:06.520 --> 00:29:07.520 Thank you. 00:29:07.520 --> 00:29:08.520 Can you hear me better, Mr. Rybak? 00:29:08.520 --> 00:29:09.520 All right. 00:29:09.520 --> 00:29:16.680 Let me speak up a little bit. 00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:19.720 And if you didn't, Mr. Rybak, if you didn't hear me, I can repeat what I said. 00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:24.120 So in the spring of this year, we completed a detailed analysis for the utilities fund 00:29:24.120 --> 00:29:25.560 balance policy. 00:29:25.560 --> 00:29:29.600 And basically what we did is we looked at the city's current policy, compared to other 00:29:29.600 --> 00:29:33.280 cities and other locally owned municipalities in the area. 00:29:33.280 --> 00:29:37.960 Based on that survey, what we recommended through the budgeting process was to increase 00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:43.240 the reserve targets for the electric utility and keep it the same for the other utilities. 00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:53.400 So today's conversation is to formalize that, to adopt a policy that supports that recommendation. 00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:56.680 And then what I'll do, these pro formas were presented to the public utility board during 00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:00.600 the budgeting process, but what I wanted to do just with the new member on the public 00:30:00.600 --> 00:30:04.680 utility board and the rest of the members as a recap, since it's been a couple of weeks, 00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:05.960 is just walk you back through it. 00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:09.560 We won't review it in detail like the budgeting process, the public utility board has already 00:30:09.560 --> 00:30:14.960 approved this, but I definitely want to show you the fund balance targets. 00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:21.240 So you can see we do budget in electric, we show a five-year forecast for the utility. 00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:25.720 You can see the proposed fiscal year 2022 budget, and this budget will go forward to 00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:28.120 city council for adoption next week. 00:30:28.120 --> 00:30:30.080 And this budget starts October 1st. 00:30:30.080 --> 00:30:37.920 So you can see planned revenues for the electric utility total 245.7 million, with total expenses 00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:42.840 totaling 240.7, and you can see that number right here. 00:30:42.840 --> 00:30:48.880 So ending net income of 4.9 million for the electric utility. 00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.120 And what I want to do is draw your attention down here, you can see the engine reserve 00:30:52.120 --> 00:30:57.880 for the electric utility is 123.3 million. 00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:03.120 So currently, when Winter Storm URI had come forward this last year, we looked at these 00:31:03.120 --> 00:31:08.240 reserve targets and it really kick-started that fund balance analysis that we'd started. 00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:12.160 So as I said, based on those results of that study, we are looking to increase it. 00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:16.920 So currently, the reserve target for the electric utility, you can see here at the bottom of 00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:22.240 your slide, the minimum is 16%, with the maximum being 21%. 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:28.800 That equates to about 38.5 million for the minimum and 50.5 million for the maximum. 00:31:28.800 --> 00:31:32.100 We did feel this was too low, and based on the feedback we got from PEB, we're looking 00:31:32.100 --> 00:31:34.160 to increase that. 00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:40.560 So the new minimum that we're proposing is 100 million, which equates to 46%, and the 00:31:40.560 --> 00:31:44.480 maximum being 150 million, which equates to 69%. 00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:53.680 And you can see the value of that is 110.7 and then 166.1. 00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:57.640 Water utility, we're not looking to make any changes to the water fund balance policy, 00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:02.080 it is sufficient based on the research that we did in that analysis, but did really quickly 00:32:02.080 --> 00:32:04.720 want to show you the 2022 column. 00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:09.360 We do show a 10-year forecast of the water utility, you can see it here in this column. 00:32:09.360 --> 00:32:17.400 Revenues of 52.2, expenses of 51.2, so net income about 998,000, yes sir. 00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:23.360 Quick question, it looked like on the electric utility, the revenue stream was declining 00:32:23.360 --> 00:32:31.000 over the period of years going out to 25, 26, whereas on the water, it appears to be 00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:32.000 going up. 00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:36.240 I was just curious if you know what's driving those forecasts up and down. 00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:41.000 That's a great question, Mr. Ryback, so during the budgeting process, you may have heard 00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:46.000 the city is actually in the process of doing a full rate filing for our T-cost rate of 00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:50.120 returns, our transmission assets, so the city gets a rate of return for investing in the 00:32:50.120 --> 00:32:51.520 transmission system. 00:32:51.520 --> 00:32:55.200 So we are taking the conservative approach, assuming that that T-cost rate of return will 00:32:55.200 --> 00:33:00.440 go down, but we're yet to know how much it'll go down to, so that's the reason that revenue 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:01.440 is decreasing. 00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:13.700 Okay, so fiscal year 2022 is 52.2, as Mr. Ryback had said, that revenue does increase 00:33:13.700 --> 00:33:18.720 in fiscal year 2031, we are forecasting about 63.5 million, looking at those different growth 00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:21.460 assumptions in the community. 00:33:21.460 --> 00:33:27.440 Expenses in fiscal year 2022 is 51.2, net income about a million dollars. 00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:31.600 Ending reserve fund balance for the water utility is right here in this blue, you can 00:33:31.600 --> 00:33:35.520 see 20.5 million is ending reserve. 00:33:35.520 --> 00:33:42.840 Current reserve target for the water utility is 120 days, with the maximum being 180 days. 00:33:42.840 --> 00:33:52.400 You can see the value of that, so 16.5 million being the minimum, 24.8 being the maximum. 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:56.120 Wastewater utility, this does include drainage, so when we talk about drainage, it is part 00:33:56.120 --> 00:33:58.080 of the wastewater fund. 00:33:58.080 --> 00:34:04.060 Fiscal year 2022, you can see 38.6 million in revenues, 37.9 in expenses, net income 00:34:04.060 --> 00:34:09.360 about 740,000, with that ending reserve target of 15.8. 00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:13.360 Not looking to make any changes to wastewater, you can see the minimum being 100 days, that 00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:24.800 equates about 11.5 million, and then the maximum being 140 days, which is about 16.2 or 16.1. 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:29.360 Water waste, we show a five-year forecast for this fund, so you can see the preliminary, 00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:34.960 which is actually the proposed budget that the PUB did approve, revenues of 39.8 and 00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:38.320 expenses of 37.2. 00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:43.360 Ending reserve, you can see the reserve target here, which is 8.9 million. 00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:48.160 We do show a separate reserve for the vehicle replacement fund, since they are heavily reliant 00:34:48.160 --> 00:34:53.160 on vehicles, so we do show that separate, but you can see the current reserve targets 00:34:53.160 --> 00:34:59.600 at the very bottom in the pink, the minimum being 51 days or 14%, the maximum being 65 00:34:59.600 --> 00:35:06.240 days or 18%, so 6.9 million, or 6.7. 00:35:06.240 --> 00:35:09.360 So we do have a public hearing on the budget tomorrow. 00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:14.480 City Council is scheduled to adopt the budget, the tax rate, and the utility rates next Tuesday, 00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.680 so we encourage you to listen to that meeting as we go forward to the City Council to get 00:35:17.680 --> 00:35:21.400 them to adopt it or seek their approval. 00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:23.400 And that is the presentation. 00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:26.160 - Other questions? 00:35:26.160 --> 00:35:31.000 Okay, seeing none, do we have a motion to approve item D? 00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:33.480 - I move approval of item D. 00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:34.480 - Thank you, Billy. 00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:35.480 Second? 00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:36.480 - Second. 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:37.480 - Thank you, Lee. 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:38.480 All in favor say aye. 00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:39.480 - Aye. 00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:40.480 - Opposed? 00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:41.480 That carries. 00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:42.480 Management reports. 00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:48.000 - Madam Chair, Board, just a quick update here for the agenda items. 00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:55.240 Obviously, we don't have this populated, but we did send to you a draft of the comprehensive 00:35:55.240 --> 00:35:57.000 solid waste management strategy. 00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:59.880 Brian Borner is on the line if you have any questions. 00:35:59.880 --> 00:36:05.760 We do plan to come back to the Board in November to actually do the work session, so you've 00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.720 received that document now quite a bit in advance, so you have an opportunity to review 00:36:09.720 --> 00:36:16.480 it and be prepared, but again, Brian is on the line if you do have a question about that. 00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:24.000 And then for the future or new business action items, obviously, that was one item that's 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:29.280 been included in the comprehensive solid waste management strategy is on recycling, residential 00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:38.000 composting, and then DME is still working on this update on the 4CP impact of solar installations. 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:43.720 We do plan to have that to you here in the next couple of meetings, and then finally, 00:36:43.720 --> 00:36:47.120 we are still working on a legislative update to provide to you. 00:36:47.120 --> 00:36:52.320 As you know, there's now a third special session that's been called, but again, as soon as 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:57.320 we have that information, we'll forward it to you just in the status report. 00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:01.120 So with that, I'm happy to answer any questions or if there's anything else you'd like to 00:37:01.120 --> 00:37:02.120 discuss on that. 00:37:02.120 --> 00:37:03.120 - Questions? 00:37:03.120 --> 00:37:04.120 All right. 00:37:04.120 --> 00:37:08.400 That brings us to concluding items. 00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:09.760 Does any Board member wish... 00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:10.760 Oh, yes. 00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:11.760 I'm sorry. 00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:12.760 Did you have a question? 00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:20.480 - I was wondering if I could add a future agenda item for consideration by the Den Energy 00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:21.480 Center. 00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:25.920 I was wondering if we could have a look at their emergency preparedness planning in the 00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:31.200 wake of our delightful winter storm, if they've made any changes that we would like to be 00:37:31.200 --> 00:37:32.200 aware of. 00:37:32.200 --> 00:37:33.200 - Okay. 00:37:33.200 --> 00:37:36.200 Concluding items is a perfect place to do that. 00:37:36.200 --> 00:37:38.080 - Absolutely. 00:37:38.080 --> 00:37:41.360 - Anything else? 00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:44.040 Any Board member wish to put any agenda? 00:37:44.040 --> 00:37:45.040 Okay. 00:37:45.040 --> 00:37:47.480 Maybe Larry, you can tell us a little bit about yourself. 00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:51.960 I think some of us know you a little bit. 00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:56.480 - Well, this is not my first time in this Chamber, as some of you all most should know. 00:37:56.480 --> 00:38:01.160 Along with Devon Taylor, I served in the Planning and Zoning Commission, which opened my eyes 00:38:01.160 --> 00:38:02.160 quite a bit. 00:38:02.160 --> 00:38:10.360 So I've been in Denton since I came up here to go to school in '74, met my wife. 00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:16.000 She was going to T.W. while I was going to North Texas State, and we've had two kids. 00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:22.200 I lost my daughter last year as a result of COVID-related complications, but my son gave 00:38:22.200 --> 00:38:27.840 me two grand babies, so I've got that to look forward to, and I'm looking forward to working 00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:30.840 on this board. 00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:32.520 - We look forward to having you here. 00:38:32.520 --> 00:38:33.520 - Thank you. 00:38:33.520 --> 00:38:34.520 - All right. 00:38:34.520 --> 00:38:37.400 I guess it's 941. 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:38.400 Do we have a motion to adjourn? 00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:39.400 - That's me. 00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:41.480 - That's your job, Billy. 00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:42.160 We are adjourned.