1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,800 Okay, it is 903 and we have a quorum, so it's called to order the Public Utilities Board 2 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:17,040 meeting for the City of Denton on Monday, September 13th. 3 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:22,400 Before we go into public comment period, I'd like to welcome Mr. Larry Beck to the Public 4 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:23,400 Utilities Board. 5 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,720 He'll be a good addition. 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,300 Does anybody in the audience wish to speak? 7 00:00:29,300 --> 00:00:31,960 Do we have anyone on the phone wishing to speak? 8 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,960 No, ma'am, no callers for today. 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,020 Thank you. 10 00:00:36,020 --> 00:00:39,320 We have a closed session scheduled. 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,760 If there are any board members who want to go into closed session to ask questions about 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:49,760 item A that's on the consent agenda, does any board member wish to go into closed session? 13 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:55,520 Okay, seeing none, we don't need a closed session. 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:00,440 Do we have any board member who wishes to pull an item off of the consent agenda from 15 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,040 items A through J? 16 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,680 I see none. 17 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,640 Do we have a motion to approve items A through J? 18 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,280 I'll move approval. 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,280 Second. 20 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:13,800 All in favor say aye. 21 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:14,800 Aye. 22 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:15,800 Opposed? 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,080 That carries. 24 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,440 Item 3A, consider approval of the minutes from August 23rd, 2021. 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,880 Do we have any corrections or changes? 26 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,240 Do we have a motion to approve? 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,880 So moved. 28 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:32,880 Barbara moves. 29 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:33,880 Do we have a second? 30 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:34,880 Second. 31 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,760 All in favor say aye. 32 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:37,760 Aye. 33 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:38,760 Opposed? 34 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,640 That carries. 35 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,280 Item B, consider recommending the adoption of an ordinance for the city of Denton, a 36 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:49,760 Texas Home Rule Municipal Corporation, to execute a contract with Classic Chevrolet for light 37 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,800 duty trucks. 38 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:58,600 Good morning, board. 39 00:01:58,600 --> 00:01:59,600 Morning. 40 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,920 My name is Terry Kader. 41 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:12,720 I'm figuring out how to share the screen here. 42 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:20,480 My name is Terry Kader. 43 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,200 I'm the fleet superintendent for the city of Denton. 44 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:28,280 This contract is a five-year contract for the purchase of light duty vehicles. 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:38,880 Light duty vehicles would include sedans up through one-ton trucks. 46 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:46,200 Just a little background on the current contract we have or the previous contract with a local 47 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:57,080 vendor here, James Wood, and we purchased approximately 35 units annually off the contract. 48 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,640 Over the life of that contract, we purchased approximately 100 vehicles and we anticipate 49 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:05,000 pretty similar on this new contract as well. 50 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:11,840 This contract, the previous contract did not include police pursuit vehicles, TAHOs, and 51 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:17,560 we began purchasing General Motors products in about the year 2010, so we've been standardized 52 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:23,660 to GM for the last 11 years. 53 00:03:23,660 --> 00:03:28,200 Just some examples of light duty vehicles that would be your pickup trucks. 54 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,680 They could be with a regular pickup or they could have utility beds. 55 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,320 Some of the lighter platforms of one-ton can carry utility beds as well. 56 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:44,520 Sedans, electric vehicles, hybrids, the police TAHO on this particular contract has included 57 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,360 support vehicles for the fire department, and then any other sedans or trucks that the 58 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,360 city uses. 59 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:56,280 There's a picture there of a new Equinox that was just purchased for the police department. 60 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:06,240 I wanted to go over a couple of advantages for having a contract like this, and I think 61 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,560 one of the biggest advantages is that it reduces the time for procurement. 62 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:11,560 Yes, sir. 63 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:12,560 Yes, sir. 64 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:13,560 I have a quick question. 65 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:19,640 What's the current make-up of the fleet in terms of cars, sedans, trucks, SUVs, or do 66 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,180 you have that information? 67 00:04:21,180 --> 00:04:24,720 I don't have the exact numbers in front of me. 68 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:32,840 It's a variety, probably a lot more trucks and SUVs currently than there are sedans. 69 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:37,960 We'll see in the future, a lot of automakers are ceasing production of sedans. 70 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,720 We're going to see a lot more pickup trucks and a lot more utility vehicles as well as 71 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,920 a lot more electric EV platforms become available. 72 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,240 Thank you. 73 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:55,520 For procurement time, a lot of our departments are in high need of having their vehicles 74 00:04:55,520 --> 00:05:00,320 replaced and over the last two years since COVID had, it's been a struggle. 75 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:06,200 It's not business as usual and this next purchasing cycle won't be any different. 76 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:12,680 Automakers are still struggling to get the chips needed to build the vehicles and just 77 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:19,020 having a contract is going to help that in the fact that the vendors have already reached 78 00:05:19,020 --> 00:05:22,840 out to us to get an idea of how many vehicles and what type of vehicles we're going to 79 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:24,540 purchase this year. 80 00:05:24,540 --> 00:05:29,440 So they have an allocation and our vehicles are already included in that allocation so 81 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:35,080 we don't have to wait until, we don't have to wonder if there's going to be build spots 82 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,680 left for the vehicles that we want so that's a big plus. 83 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:44,240 This contract also includes discounts for parts and repair services, body shop services, 84 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:49,400 these are things that we would normally send out anyway to the local vendors and of course 85 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:54,200 the standardization of the fleet is important because it just creates efficiencies through 86 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:59,320 training, through having parts on the shelf for the vehicles and the need for specialized 87 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:05,600 tools and equipment to include diagnostics and that type thing. 88 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:10,380 This contract includes all available GM models and future models will be added to the contract 89 00:06:10,380 --> 00:06:15,720 as they become available right now so that trucks, vans, SUVs and electric vehicles are 90 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,200 all part of the contract. 91 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:27,920 It is a three-year contract with two one-year renewal periods and the discount for body shop 92 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:33,400 work is 15% for parts and labor on body repairs and we send a significant amount of those 93 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:38,520 out for repairs since we don't have the capability to perform those services in-house. 94 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:44,640 We think we're going to purchase probably 40 vehicles annually and spend just an average 95 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:52,320 of 1.2 million, of course that all depends on the five-year replacement schedule which 96 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:58,820 vehicles become eligible for replacement and then as the departments determine their needs 97 00:06:58,820 --> 00:07:05,980 what vehicles will be added to the fleet so we've included a slide here showing the planned 98 00:07:05,980 --> 00:07:11,040 replacements for this next coming year and if you do the math you'll see it doesn't 99 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,800 add up to 1.2 million because some of this contract is maintenance or repair, some of 100 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:21,520 the contract is additions that I don't have, those will have to be approved before we can 101 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:29,840 add them to the list and it also includes lower amounts in the initial terms of the 102 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,040 contract because we all know prices will increase over the next five years so initially we won't 103 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,760 be spending that 1.2 but at the end of the contract we're probably overall six million 104 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:45,000 dollars and that's only if we need to spend that, that we're not obligated to spend it's 105 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:52,200 only as departments need so I included a slide on the replacement criteria because that's 106 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:59,160 always a point of interest and in our replacement most of our sedans and light trucks in this 107 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:05,800 category are ten-year life cycles, our police patrol vehicles are in seven-year life cycle. 108 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,040 I'm not so concerned about the age of the vehicle, I'm more concerned about the maintenance 109 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:17,800 cost of the vehicle so age isn't a very high weight factor for us in fleet but mileage 110 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,540 and maintenance costs are so these are trigger points that tell us it's time to take a look 111 00:08:22,540 --> 00:08:28,800 at replacing that particular vehicle and we try to get 100,000 miles out of a typical 112 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,000 truck and 130 out of a police vehicle. 113 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,320 We will typically do that on patrol units because they run a lot. 114 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,960 We may not reach the life cycle in pickups and sedans necessarily or when we do it's 115 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,680 going to be over the ten-year life span which is okay as long as we can still procure parts 116 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:52,020 for that unit and as long as the maintenance points aren't over five so in our fleet system 117 00:08:52,020 --> 00:08:59,280 it tracks cost of vehicles and the life cycle cost for maintenance is zero to ten points 118 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:04,720 and at five that's the place on the curve where it's advantageous to start looking 119 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,400 at replacing that vehicle once it gets up towards eight or ten points you're really 120 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,640 putting more money into maintenance than you should be and you should look at replacing 121 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:18,600 that or you should have already replaced it so that's kind of our criteria. 122 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,600 Five points represents half of the initial cost of the vehicle in case you're wondering 123 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:24,600 about that. 124 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:25,600 Question? 125 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:26,600 Yes. 126 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:38,960 How do you decide, let's see, how do you decide what you get, what goes electric, what stays? 127 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:39,960 That's a great question. 128 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:45,320 So the first thing we look at is the needs of the department and what platforms or vehicle 129 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:50,480 that will are available that will suit their particular needs and then the next thing we 130 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:59,000 look at is the engine driveline and the actual platform hybrid or electric so if the department 131 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,920 has a need for a certain type of vehicle and it is available as an electric or a hybrid 132 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,720 we will definitely take a look at that and we'll have a committee that's put together 133 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:15,480 to look at each purchase and see and then the committee will be made up of various department 134 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:21,440 personnel as well so we'll be taking a look at the purchase and see what suits the needs 135 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:27,880 of the department, what's available and then can we go electric with it because electric 136 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:34,400 vehicles are going to be the future and a lot of that depends too on our charging capability. 137 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:40,840 What is, would you know, what is the policy about the employee taking home? 138 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:46,200 I understand the wisdom of having a police and take his police car home because I think 139 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:51,640 that is a deterrence but how do you decide within the department who takes their vehicle 140 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:56,040 home and who just drives to work and gets in the city vehicle? 141 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,760 The fleet department doesn't necessarily make that decision that's left up to the departments 142 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:05,240 but primarily it's police and fire right now, there are some departments that have to respond 143 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:10,720 when they're called out, water and electric has some take home vehicles but it's limited, 144 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:15,800 it's limited to those people that are on call for a particular incident so the majority 145 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,800 of take home vehicles in the city are emergency type vehicles. 146 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,200 Thank you. 147 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,200 Billy? 148 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,200 Yes sir. 149 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:28,440 I guess my question is about moving to classic from James Woods, how did that happen? 150 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,520 Well when we put the bid out we submitted it to four different dealerships within the 151 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:40,040 city of Denton and I think a lot of it had to do with timing and the fact that the auto 152 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,680 manufacturers are still up and near about what they're going to manufacture and how 153 00:11:44,680 --> 00:11:51,640 many they're going to manufacture so my understanding was that when we put the bid out the pricing 154 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:56,800 for next year 2022 models hadn't even been given to the manufacturers yet, it wasn't 155 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:02,720 right to the very end before the bid could be submitted but our local dealer chose not 156 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,400 to submit a bid this time. 157 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,400 Okay. 158 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:06,800 Well that makes that easy. 159 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:07,800 Yeah. 160 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:08,800 Yes sir. 161 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,720 Where is classic based? 162 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:19,760 Classic is in Grapevine I think, Richardson I believe, Grapevine, yes sir. 163 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:26,080 We, that's it for the presentation, I'll be happy to answer any other questions, yes 164 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,080 sir. 165 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:36,240 This purchase is based on the needs for what you currently, can you hear me okay, I better, 166 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:41,840 I've always been guilty of that, based on what you currently have in stock or does this 167 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,960 look at future needs as we grow, is that. 168 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:51,200 This does have vehicles added in for future needs but it also primarily looked at our 169 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,440 five-year replacement plan that we currently have so we looked at the next five years what's 170 00:12:55,440 --> 00:13:01,040 becoming eligible and then we know about what the fleet growth has been in the past and 171 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,400 that's what I used to predict, how many units we might add to the fleet in the future and 172 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,520 we put that in there as well. 173 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:07,520 Thank you. 174 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:08,520 More questions. 175 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:13,640 Madam Chair, before we move on I just wanted to recognize Terry and his staff, you know 176 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:19,000 they recently recognized, they received a gold level award for the Clean Cities Coalition, 177 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,160 this is the second year in a row so I think the City of Denton does a really good job 178 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:28,560 of making sure we're aware of the environmental impacts that our fleet has on the local region, 179 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:29,560 so. 180 00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:31,000 That's wonderful, congratulations. 181 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,800 Thank you very much. 182 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:40,800 All right, do we have a motion to approve item B? 183 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:41,800 So moved. 184 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:42,800 Okay, we move. 185 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:43,800 Second. 186 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:44,800 Devin seconds. 187 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,560 All in favor say aye. 188 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:49,560 Aye. 189 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:50,560 Opposed? 190 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:51,840 That carries. 191 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:56,000 BMC, consider recommending the adoption of an ordinance with the City of Denton, a Texas 192 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:01,400 Home Rule Corporation, authorizing the City Manager to execute a contract with Primors 193 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,480 T&D Services LLC. 194 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,920 Good morning. 195 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,040 Good morning. 196 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:22,680 Good morning. 197 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:52,440 Well, I'm trying to get it to go bigger. 198 00:14:52,440 --> 00:15:08,120 Good morning, I'm Brad Watts, Operations and Maintenance Line Division Manager and this 199 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:14,480 morning I wanted to talk to you, give a presentation about our overhead maintenance construction 200 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:19,760 contract and my glasses are going to fog up so I might have to step back or pull them 201 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:26,600 down, but I'll give it my best shot. 202 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,440 First I'm going to give you a little bit of background, you know, about our overhead contract. 203 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:36,280 We currently are just, you know, came out of a contract that was our overhead construction 204 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:41,280 and maintenance contract and now we're, you know, trying to renew a new one and that's 205 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:47,360 going to supplement our in-house staff force with qualified personnel and some things that 206 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:53,640 kind of drive, you know, having a contract with a contractor would be emergency response, 207 00:15:53,640 --> 00:16:00,120 large projects and unfortunately now staff shortages with COVID, you know, employees 208 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:06,400 being sick or having to be quarantined and then, you know, back on the emergency response, 209 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:12,240 you know, a prime example is, you know, Louisiana, Mississippi and the coast with the hurricanes. 210 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,440 We don't get them up here, knock on wood, but we do have ice storms and, you know, we 211 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:22,000 can get remnants of a hurricane and then the City of Denton, the RFP, requested a full 212 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:27,800 service contractor capable of providing overhead line construction and maintenance services. 213 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:33,320 These services will include, but are not limited to, installation of new or replacement of 214 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:40,600 existing overhead and underground electrical facilities on the system. 215 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:47,520 All electrical construction material will be provided by the City of Denton. 216 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:53,160 And back on the main utilization of this contract will be pole replacements. 217 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:59,600 Currently in, well, in 2019, DME initiated a pole inspections project that inspected 218 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:06,920 the existing 12,000 poles within DME's infrastructure that's supporting the 352 miles of overhead 219 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,080 conductor. 220 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:15,600 These poles that are on our system, they range from installation from the 1960s to current 221 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,520 time. 222 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:24,600 So far, we've inspected around 75% of our overhead infrastructure to date and we have 223 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:34,360 identified 1,199 poles to be replaced, having replaced 170 so far of those poles. 224 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:40,720 The overhead construction lines make up 43% of DME's infrastructure. 225 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:45,280 The other remaining, of course, is the underground. 226 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:51,000 And this is some pictures of our poles that we've replaced and a good, good picture will 227 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,600 be the picture on the right. 228 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,760 When they're inspecting poles, they're not just inspecting from the ground up, they're 229 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:02,880 inspecting from the ground down because the ground down is usually where you're going 230 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:11,800 to have the damage on your poles, where, whether it be rot or insect infestation on it or just, 231 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,480 just a bad pole. 232 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:19,000 And that's a really a good picture of what that'll look like when we find them. 233 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,040 And with this, we're seeking approval of a contract for the supply of overhead electric 234 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:28,600 lines construction and maintenance services for the city of Denton with Primor's T&D services 235 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:34,080 for five years and the not to exceed amount of $15 million. 236 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,880 And of that $15 million, I mean, we've got different types of poles out there. 237 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:44,560 We've got single phase, B phase, three phase, which is one, two, or three phases. 238 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,280 And every pole can be unique as far as changing it out, as far as getting just a price to 239 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,840 change that pole out. 240 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:57,000 It's going to vary based on, is it in a back alley, is it up on the street, or what all's 241 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:02,040 on there, cable, cable TV, telephone, transformer services. 242 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:07,640 I mean, it varies, you know, greatly, but with that, I'll answer any questions y'all 243 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:08,640 might have. 244 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:09,640 Yes, sir. 245 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:10,640 I have a question. 246 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:11,640 Yes, sir. 247 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,520 You said you, in your presentation, you replaced 170 poles so far. 248 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,520 Yes, sir. 249 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:20,600 Out of 1200 out of a 75% inspection rate. 250 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:26,720 So I'm curious what pace you intend to replace the poles at if you have that many to replace. 251 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,520 Over this three to five-year period? 252 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:30,520 That's a good question. 253 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:36,220 We, when they, when the pole inspector gives us the inspections, it's broken down, it kind 254 00:19:36,220 --> 00:19:42,600 of rates them from really bad, which we call priority, to another type of a priority pole, 255 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,680 which is not as bad, and then it goes down from there. 256 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:50,240 The pole's working, it's not a danger pole, and currently the priority pole, that's number 257 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,200 one on our list, and so we stay on top of those. 258 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,880 I mean, they're changed out immediately. 259 00:19:54,880 --> 00:20:00,120 When we get the inspections report, and we get them weekly, the crews are sent out, whether 260 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:05,760 it was a contractor or an in-house crew, the pole is changed out right then. 261 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:10,880 I mean, we get it off the system, and we'll also rank them down from that. 262 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:17,280 I mean, from priority down to the least, you know, that's not dangerous. 263 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:23,600 And so we'll, we work backwards on that from our really bad poles to not as bad poles. 264 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,280 And to answer your question, as far as how fast, as fast as we can do it, I mean, because 265 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,280 it's... 266 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,840 Well, I'm just curious, because if you've identified roughly 1,200 so far, and you've 267 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:38,360 only replaced 170, I don't know what percentage of that 1,200 you consider priority. 268 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:45,200 I would say, out of the, I probably, well, I mean, it would be really low percentage, 269 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:51,120 because we've only identified, I think the number's 30 priority poles that were just 270 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:55,680 dangerous poles, and then from there out, I don't have those numbers, but I can get 271 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,680 them for you. 272 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:05,120 Just from my own thinking, so you looked at the 1,200 poles and replaced 170, and you've 273 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:12,680 got 30 more to do, so that's 200, so that's about, what, 1,615 percent, thereabouts? 274 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:13,840 Yes, sir. 275 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:14,840 Okay. 276 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:15,840 Thank you. 277 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:21,440 Oh, button. 278 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,080 There you go. 279 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,160 Thank you, Chair. 280 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:33,200 So, we have 12,000 poles, and you said you've inspected 75 percent of the infrastructure? 281 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,200 Yes, sir. 282 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,120 So 8,000, 8,000 have been inspected? 283 00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:42,280 And is, like, expected life, like, 50 years or 30 years? 284 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:47,120 Usually, I mean, that can range, I mean, depending on the soil and things like that, you know, 285 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:51,360 how much moisture is on the pole, but I mean, a good number is 30 to 35 years is what a 286 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:52,360 pole will last. 287 00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:58,080 Okay, and I guess, I mean, in the last 20 years, we've replaced hundreds or 1,000 poles, 288 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:05,120 I guess, over, as needed, this seems like it's an ongoing, you know, a never-ending 289 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:06,120 process. 290 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:07,120 It is. 291 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:12,960 I mean, every year, you want to inspect some 10 percent of your poles or, you know, some 292 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,760 amount of your poles, and then you're going to be replacing, of those 12,000 poles, you 293 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:23,920 can say in 30 or 40 years, you're going to replace all 12,000, so you expect to replace 294 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,120 whatever that is, 500 a year. 295 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:28,120 That's very possible. 296 00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:32,360 Yeah, and part of this is, as the city's grown, that pole was installed 20 years ago 297 00:22:32,360 --> 00:22:38,400 or 30 years ago, they're just now starting to age out as like, as kind of areas of the 298 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,960 city have expanded. 299 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:49,960 If it's going to be a permanent ongoing process, would it be better over time for the city 300 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:55,320 to just expand its staff and take this work on, you know, and this can be in a five or 301 00:22:55,320 --> 00:23:00,800 10-year period, but if we're going to be replacing 100 poles a year, 200 poles a year, 500 poles 302 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:06,280 a year, you know, in five years from now, could we have a plan to have enough staff 303 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,440 to do the inspections and do the replacements in-house? 304 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,440 Good question, Mr. Taylor. 305 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,360 I'm Chris Ludrick, the executive manager of operations. 306 00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:22,400 So one thing that we should state is this pole inspection task that we took on is new. 307 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,920 We have not done that in the past. 308 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,880 There was not a pole inspection program in place, so we were more of a reactive. 309 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,200 So we would have a pole break. 310 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,740 We had the infamous windstorm of Bonnie Bray that took down the entire line, and then we 311 00:23:34,740 --> 00:23:35,920 would go repair it. 312 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:41,180 So to be more proactive, we hired a company that's actually doing the pole inspections 313 00:23:41,180 --> 00:23:43,800 for us, and that will be periodic going forward. 314 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,440 So maybe you only need it every five years. 315 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,520 But this first allotment of this 1,200 poles, that's because we looked at every pole in 316 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,720 the city, even ones that have been in the ground for a year. 317 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,320 So to give us a benchmark, so we'll bring in this contractor to get this big, you know, 318 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:03,880 this big glut of backlogged bad poles out of the way, then going forward, it would be much 319 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,400 more manageable. 320 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:11,280 And Brad's guys, if they do have time, so if there's staff available, we can change out 321 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,280 the poles ourselves. 322 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,960 But we'll elect to use the contractor to carry the bulk of this so that our maintenance crews 323 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,120 aren't tied up all the time working on that. 324 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:23,200 But yes, definitely going forward, it should be a much more manageable task that we can 325 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,120 take care of in-house. 326 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:27,120 Thank you. 327 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:28,120 You're welcome. 328 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:29,120 Go ahead. 329 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:30,120 Thank you. 330 00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:36,960 Kind of as a corollary to Mr. Taylor's concern, has your department weighed the merits and 331 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:43,160 cost of treated wood posts as opposed to metal posts? 332 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,920 I couldn't hear all the questions. 333 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:53,160 Has your department weighed the merits and cost of treated wood posts versus metal posts? 334 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,160 Would there be? 335 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:59,280 That would be an engineering question that I'm in the industry, I mean, that's an ongoing 336 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:05,440 question that's been supported, but that would be an engineering question, and we'll certainly 337 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,440 get that for you. 338 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:12,640 Okay, but there's nothing just at the top of your head that says one's better than the 339 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:13,640 other? 340 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,000 Yes, sir, Mr. Beck. 341 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:21,720 So the costs are significantly more for the metal poles than they are for the wooden poles. 342 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,360 The initial cost or the overall? 343 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:29,000 The initial cost, and you also have to remember that those, unless you put galvanized poles 344 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,680 everywhere, which is not the standard in distribution because it's very unsightly, that those poles 345 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:34,880 also rust as well. 346 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,340 So they have a life expectancy just like the wood poles. 347 00:25:38,340 --> 00:25:43,480 So the wood poles are very easy for our guys to work, and as we try to maintain a 30-minute 348 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,040 outage on repairing those poles, they're just very easy to work with. 349 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:57,080 So they are by far the industry standard electric guys talking in the lights, I believe. 350 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,080 Another question. 351 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:04,160 Another question separate from that, I'm assuming just based on my observation that as new developments 352 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,360 come in, we don't do the above-ground electrical, it all goes underground, is that correct? 353 00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:09,360 That is correct. 354 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:12,160 All new construction for residential is underground. 355 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:19,960 Any thought to replacing what we got above ground to underground as it allows, as conditions 356 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:20,960 allow? 357 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:21,960 Yes, sir. 358 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,960 We do. 359 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,600 The cost difference is significant, maybe three times. 360 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,400 So we would take budgetary constraints in mind. 361 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,680 We also take reliability. 362 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:35,280 So if a circuit in our Kings Row area, that part of town, a lot of those lines are in 363 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,280 the backyards. 364 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,120 They're very hard for us to get to. 365 00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:42,120 So those are things that we do consider as far as, "Hey, when we replace this line, do 366 00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:43,840 we need to put it underground?" 367 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,560 Unfortunately, some of the construction techniques where you have fences backing up to fence 368 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:53,040 and that line runs in the back, it's not very conducive to put it in an underground circuit 369 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,600 because all of those houses are fed overhead, you would have to convert every service for 370 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,600 every house. 371 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:04,760 So it is definitely something we look at and we actually do have a budgetary category that 372 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,640 we put in our budget every year to transition some existing overhead to underground. 373 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,400 Right now the logistics of it makes it pretty difficult. 374 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,400 Yes, sir. 375 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,400 That's correct. 376 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,400 Thank you. 377 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,280 Well, Mr. Beck also pointed out that the council did ask us to look at potentially undergrounding 378 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,320 certain areas of the city. 379 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,880 We are currently working through that and do plan to have a report back to the council. 380 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:30,280 We'll also share with the PUB sometime before the end of this month. 381 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,080 Just understand that it'll be a big ticket item. 382 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,600 But again, it was a response to one of the council priorities I think from a year ago 383 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,960 that we're still working on, but we'll get that to you. 384 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:48,360 I think it was just a few years ago that you redid Southridge, you replaced all the lines 385 00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:49,360 out there. 386 00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:50,360 Yes, ma'am. 387 00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:52,480 If I'm remembering correctly. 388 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,520 All right. 389 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,840 Any other questions? 390 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,280 Do we have a motion to approve item C? 391 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,280 So move. 392 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,280 Thank you, Devin. 393 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,280 I'll second. 394 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,280 Okay. 395 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,280 Larry seconded. 396 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,280 All in favor say aye. 397 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,280 Aye. 398 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,280 Opposed? 399 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,700 Motion carries. 400 00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:16,240 Consider recommending the approval of an ordinance amending the city's fund balance policy related 401 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,440 to the utility fund reserve levels. 402 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,400 Good morning, Chair, PB members, Nick Vincent, Assistant Director of Finance. 403 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,560 I'll do my best to talk as loud as possible with this mask on. 404 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:42,080 Okay, so welcome to Mr. Beck, glad to have you on the Public Utilities Board to continue 405 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,160 our conversations regarding the fiscal year 2021-2022 budget. 406 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,280 A little bit of recap. 407 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,920 So if the PB or members, we did complete a detailed fund balance analysis this spring 408 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,280 of the city's fund balance policy for the utilities. 409 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,280 Based on that result of that study, we were looking to increase the reserve requirement 410 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,680 for the electric utility, and that's what today's conversation is focused on. 411 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,520 Sir, could you speak up or move the microphone up? 412 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,520 Let me. 413 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,520 Thank you. 414 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,520 Can you hear me better, Mr. Rybak? 415 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,520 All right. 416 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:16,680 Let me speak up a little bit. 417 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,720 And if you didn't, Mr. Rybak, if you didn't hear me, I can repeat what I said. 418 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,120 So in the spring of this year, we completed a detailed analysis for the utilities fund 419 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,560 balance policy. 420 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,600 And basically what we did is we looked at the city's current policy, compared to other 421 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,280 cities and other locally owned municipalities in the area. 422 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,960 Based on that survey, what we recommended through the budgeting process was to increase 423 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:43,240 the reserve targets for the electric utility and keep it the same for the other utilities. 424 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:53,400 So today's conversation is to formalize that, to adopt a policy that supports that recommendation. 425 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,680 And then what I'll do, these pro formas were presented to the public utility board during 426 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,600 the budgeting process, but what I wanted to do just with the new member on the public 427 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,680 utility board and the rest of the members as a recap, since it's been a couple of weeks, 428 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,960 is just walk you back through it. 429 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,560 We won't review it in detail like the budgeting process, the public utility board has already 430 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:14,960 approved this, but I definitely want to show you the fund balance targets. 431 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:21,240 So you can see we do budget in electric, we show a five-year forecast for the utility. 432 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,720 You can see the proposed fiscal year 2022 budget, and this budget will go forward to 433 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,120 city council for adoption next week. 434 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,080 And this budget starts October 1st. 435 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:37,920 So you can see planned revenues for the electric utility total 245.7 million, with total expenses 436 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,840 totaling 240.7, and you can see that number right here. 437 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:48,880 So ending net income of 4.9 million for the electric utility. 438 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,120 And what I want to do is draw your attention down here, you can see the engine reserve 439 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:57,880 for the electric utility is 123.3 million. 440 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:03,120 So currently, when Winter Storm URI had come forward this last year, we looked at these 441 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:08,240 reserve targets and it really kick-started that fund balance analysis that we'd started. 442 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,160 So as I said, based on those results of that study, we are looking to increase it. 443 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,920 So currently, the reserve target for the electric utility, you can see here at the bottom of 444 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:22,240 your slide, the minimum is 16%, with the maximum being 21%. 445 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:28,800 That equates to about 38.5 million for the minimum and 50.5 million for the maximum. 446 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,100 We did feel this was too low, and based on the feedback we got from PEB, we're looking 447 00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:34,160 to increase that. 448 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:40,560 So the new minimum that we're proposing is 100 million, which equates to 46%, and the 449 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,480 maximum being 150 million, which equates to 69%. 450 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:53,680 And you can see the value of that is 110.7 and then 166.1. 451 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,640 Water utility, we're not looking to make any changes to the water fund balance policy, 452 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,080 it is sufficient based on the research that we did in that analysis, but did really quickly 453 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,720 want to show you the 2022 column. 454 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,360 We do show a 10-year forecast of the water utility, you can see it here in this column. 455 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:17,400 Revenues of 52.2, expenses of 51.2, so net income about 998,000, yes sir. 456 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:23,360 Quick question, it looked like on the electric utility, the revenue stream was declining 457 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:31,000 over the period of years going out to 25, 26, whereas on the water, it appears to be 458 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,000 going up. 459 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,240 I was just curious if you know what's driving those forecasts up and down. 460 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:41,000 That's a great question, Mr. Ryback, so during the budgeting process, you may have heard 461 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:46,000 the city is actually in the process of doing a full rate filing for our T-cost rate of 462 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,120 returns, our transmission assets, so the city gets a rate of return for investing in the 463 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,520 transmission system. 464 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,200 So we are taking the conservative approach, assuming that that T-cost rate of return will 465 00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:00,440 go down, but we're yet to know how much it'll go down to, so that's the reason that revenue 466 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,440 is decreasing. 467 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:13,700 Okay, so fiscal year 2022 is 52.2, as Mr. Ryback had said, that revenue does increase 468 00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:18,720 in fiscal year 2031, we are forecasting about 63.5 million, looking at those different growth 469 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,460 assumptions in the community. 470 00:33:21,460 --> 00:33:27,440 Expenses in fiscal year 2022 is 51.2, net income about a million dollars. 471 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,600 Ending reserve fund balance for the water utility is right here in this blue, you can 472 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,520 see 20.5 million is ending reserve. 473 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:42,840 Current reserve target for the water utility is 120 days, with the maximum being 180 days. 474 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:52,400 You can see the value of that, so 16.5 million being the minimum, 24.8 being the maximum. 475 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,120 Wastewater utility, this does include drainage, so when we talk about drainage, it is part 476 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,080 of the wastewater fund. 477 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:04,060 Fiscal year 2022, you can see 38.6 million in revenues, 37.9 in expenses, net income 478 00:34:04,060 --> 00:34:09,360 about 740,000, with that ending reserve target of 15.8. 479 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,360 Not looking to make any changes to wastewater, you can see the minimum being 100 days, that 480 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:24,800 equates about 11.5 million, and then the maximum being 140 days, which is about 16.2 or 16.1. 481 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,360 Water waste, we show a five-year forecast for this fund, so you can see the preliminary, 482 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,960 which is actually the proposed budget that the PUB did approve, revenues of 39.8 and 483 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,320 expenses of 37.2. 484 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:43,360 Ending reserve, you can see the reserve target here, which is 8.9 million. 485 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:48,160 We do show a separate reserve for the vehicle replacement fund, since they are heavily reliant 486 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:53,160 on vehicles, so we do show that separate, but you can see the current reserve targets 487 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:59,600 at the very bottom in the pink, the minimum being 51 days or 14%, the maximum being 65 488 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:06,240 days or 18%, so 6.9 million, or 6.7. 489 00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:09,360 So we do have a public hearing on the budget tomorrow. 490 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,480 City Council is scheduled to adopt the budget, the tax rate, and the utility rates next Tuesday, 491 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,680 so we encourage you to listen to that meeting as we go forward to the City Council to get 492 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,400 them to adopt it or seek their approval. 493 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,400 And that is the presentation. 494 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,160 - Other questions? 495 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:31,000 Okay, seeing none, do we have a motion to approve item D? 496 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,480 - I move approval of item D. 497 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,480 - Thank you, Billy. 498 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:35,480 Second? 499 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:36,480 - Second. 500 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,480 - Thank you, Lee. 501 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,480 All in favor say aye. 502 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,480 - Aye. 503 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:40,480 - Opposed? 504 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,480 That carries. 505 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,480 Management reports. 506 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:48,000 - Madam Chair, Board, just a quick update here for the agenda items. 507 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:55,240 Obviously, we don't have this populated, but we did send to you a draft of the comprehensive 508 00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:57,000 solid waste management strategy. 509 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,880 Brian Borner is on the line if you have any questions. 510 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:05,760 We do plan to come back to the Board in November to actually do the work session, so you've 511 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,720 received that document now quite a bit in advance, so you have an opportunity to review 512 00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:16,480 it and be prepared, but again, Brian is on the line if you do have a question about that. 513 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:24,000 And then for the future or new business action items, obviously, that was one item that's 514 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:29,280 been included in the comprehensive solid waste management strategy is on recycling, residential 515 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:38,000 composting, and then DME is still working on this update on the 4CP impact of solar installations. 516 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:43,720 We do plan to have that to you here in the next couple of meetings, and then finally, 517 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:47,120 we are still working on a legislative update to provide to you. 518 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:52,320 As you know, there's now a third special session that's been called, but again, as soon as 519 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:57,320 we have that information, we'll forward it to you just in the status report. 520 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,120 So with that, I'm happy to answer any questions or if there's anything else you'd like to 521 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,120 discuss on that. 522 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,120 - Questions? 523 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,120 All right. 524 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,400 That brings us to concluding items. 525 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,760 Does any Board member wish... 526 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,760 Oh, yes. 527 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:11,760 I'm sorry. 528 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:12,760 Did you have a question? 529 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:20,480 - I was wondering if I could add a future agenda item for consideration by the Den Energy 530 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,480 Center. 531 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,920 I was wondering if we could have a look at their emergency preparedness planning in the 532 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:31,200 wake of our delightful winter storm, if they've made any changes that we would like to be 533 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,200 aware of. 534 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,200 - Okay. 535 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,200 Concluding items is a perfect place to do that. 536 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,080 - Absolutely. 537 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,360 - Anything else? 538 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,040 Any Board member wish to put any agenda? 539 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,040 Okay. 540 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,480 Maybe Larry, you can tell us a little bit about yourself. 541 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,960 I think some of us know you a little bit. 542 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,480 - Well, this is not my first time in this Chamber, as some of you all most should know. 543 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:01,160 Along with Devon Taylor, I served in the Planning and Zoning Commission, which opened my eyes 544 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,160 quite a bit. 545 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:10,360 So I've been in Denton since I came up here to go to school in '74, met my wife. 546 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:16,000 She was going to T.W. while I was going to North Texas State, and we've had two kids. 547 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:22,200 I lost my daughter last year as a result of COVID-related complications, but my son gave 548 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:27,840 me two grand babies, so I've got that to look forward to, and I'm looking forward to working 549 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,840 on this board. 550 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,520 - We look forward to having you here. 551 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,520 - Thank you. 552 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,520 - All right. 553 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,400 I guess it's 941. 554 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,400 Do we have a motion to adjourn? 555 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,400 - That's me. 556 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,480 - That's your job, Billy. 557 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,160 We are adjourned.