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mobility committee that's Wednesday January 17th 2018 it's

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1134 we do have a

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quorum so we'll go ahead and convene our regular meeting

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with item a which is

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consider approval of the mobility committee of the Dutton

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City Council

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meeting minutes of November 14 2017 I'll entertain a motion

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I'll move approval

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okay motion and second all in favor please raise your hand

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passes unanimously

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item two is receive a report hold a discussion I'm sorry

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item B is receive a

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report hold a discussion and provide direction regarding

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Texas Department of

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Transportation on system projects in the Denton area to

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include the 35 Express

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project okay we have with us madam chair Jim Klein

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president of DCTA well did you

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want to start with the DCTA item first and then go to on

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system that would be

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our request yes sir permission so we'll skip item B and

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then we'll go to item C

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which is receive a report from DCTA staff to include state

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of the agency

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passenger enhancements bus operations and DCTA capital

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projects and provide

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direction regarding strategic initiatives in the Denton

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County

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Transportation Authority service plan so so we do have with

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us this morning Jim

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Klein who's president of DCTA with him we also have the

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city of Denton

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representative who serves on the board for DCTA and that is

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Richard Huckabee so

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with that I'd like to turn it over to Jim Klein just a

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hello for mr. Huckabee

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for the record thanks Jim yes ma'am

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thank you all for having us by the way we're always happy

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to come here to the

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mobility committee the City Council or any of your public

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meetings I know we've

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been active in the neighborhood study around the University

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there's two of us

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that sit on that committee so the that's been it's been

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very interesting in terms

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of how maybe we can be a part of that and at least getting

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certainly gives us

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a lot of insight into the community and how people how that

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how the people we

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serve see the future of the area so a little bit about DCTA

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y'all know us

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pretty well our vision you know we want to be leaders in

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what we do and as a

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part of our region which is really important that we are

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part of what

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happens with DART and the forward transportation authority

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that we bring

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forward first of all safe and serve our customers and be as

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efficient as we can

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and so see a lot of the strategic drivers higher education

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is probably the

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thing that drives that actually is the biggest driver of

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our ridership and so

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our partnerships with the University of North Texas Texas

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Women's University and

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NCTC are incredibly important to the future of our agency

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and we always the

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second from the bottom we're always seeking opportunities

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for any additional

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partners that we can find to enhance service and make it

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better for our

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community we always talk about you know why why do we have

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transit you know

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there's we'll talk about ridership and some of those things

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that are going on

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but you know we want to make sure that we do provide you

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know it'd be ridiculous

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for me to say that we're going to be able to provide an

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opportunity for

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everybody in Denton County to not own a car but if we can

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get more a lot get

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and provide an alternative to that single occupant vehicle

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maybe a family

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could have one car instead of two I think those are things

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and particularly

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development around stations where we can really make a

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difference in that and then

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we talked about access to education to work independent

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mobility I pitch a lot

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of times that when you look at a senior as we all and the

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same thing I'm facing

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as we all get older how do we maintain our independent

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mobility and could we

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through transit extend independent mobility for another ten

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years is that

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an option and how do we do that in a low density area and

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we found that by doing

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some different things through Lyft domain responsive

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service taxis we've

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done a lot of things who are experimenting with a lot of

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things and

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having some success and so you know how can we keep people

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from in their

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neighborhoods in their homes for the longest period

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possible so there's a

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real social benefit I think societal benefit to what we do

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had an interesting

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experience with the I think everybody had an interesting

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experience with the

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whole Amazon deal I was approached by the city of Denton

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many communities both

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in and out of the service area for what are you gonna do

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about transit if Amazon

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comes well I sent the same we basically the same response

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is of course we're

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gonna be part of the region and we'll be happy to to work

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with that and work with

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our funding partners to make that happen but it was

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interesting to see the

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interest of the business community and what kind of transit

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service is

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available and what options exist for their employees so we

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're hearing a lot

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about that but that was certainly one thing that's anecd

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otal in terms of the

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headquarters to site selection process it was that we went

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through with our

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partners so when we look at regional growth a lot of

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opportunities in our

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member cities to expand service we've just completed some

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service changes here

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in the city of Denton with route 4 extending route 6 off to

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Discovery Park

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a lot of it has to do with how we coordinated with the

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University of North

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Texas to streamline our services and bring about that a

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long-term arrangement

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with the University to continue our long-term arrangement

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with University of

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North Texas we currently do you know while we were focused

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on our three

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service sales tax contributing member cities Corinth and

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Flower Mound

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NCTC pays us to provide service in those communities to tie

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it to the

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University we're partnering with the city of with the Fort

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Worth

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Transportation Authority to link downtown Denton to

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downtown Fort Worth

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they provide one they provide a bus and we do and we run

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opposite so they've

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been so we share the service and it provides another

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opportunity for

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education and for workers and so we're in a lot of

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conversations with certainly

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UNT Alliance Frisco Flower Mound on the colony and others

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and looking at how we

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can continue to grow these partnerships and you guys stop

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me if you got any

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questions because I'm this is some of this is old hat for

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you know some of

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y'all have heard some of these things before but as we go

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through just please

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interrupt me is no worries go ahead yes sir I'll turn my

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microphone I had a

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citizen to raise some concerns and I'm sure you can answer

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these about the

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efforts that Denton County Transit Authority is doing to

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provide service

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for other parts of Denton County like Frisco and Flower M

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ound and suppose the

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colony I don't know and the question was how do you do that

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and not

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divert funds from the three contributing cities sales tax

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to to to do that let

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me give you an example of how we do that and you know we're

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for the last year and

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a half we've been providing service in Frisco it's an area

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of growth for us in

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terms of they wanted to provide elderly and disabled

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service so we calculate all

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the costs for fuel the vehicle maintenance the driver

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everything that

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goes into that and they we charge them 20% additional a 20%

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surcharge to cover

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our overhead costs and so they we also do a taxi voucher

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not a taxi voucher

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program we did dispatch taxis in that's where our dispatch

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er actually calls a

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taxi or to expand their service without using more of our

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vehicles and we do the

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same thing we bill them and they pay us bill us every we

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bill them every month

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and they've been paying the bill so that's how we keep that

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right so they're

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paying for the actual cost of service plus 20% which it

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would be an

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administrative fee so that the money that we're paying in

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to help cover your

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salary and the other salaries of the general staff are

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offset somewhat by

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yes by that administrative fee that you're charging and

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then we have and we

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do it and we do different areas I mean we have a voucher

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program that's very

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simple for us to do and it's 5% from McKinney as an example

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because in that

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area it's all we don't dispatch cabs actually the

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individual participants do

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it's all basically we're just flowing a process through the

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Irving Holdings

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Company in terms of providing cab voucher system for their

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so we're paying

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the directs we're paying a surcharge they are to make that

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happen because we

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want to stay true you know faithful to our contributing

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member cities and how

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we do that so I think that as we look at some of the things

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that will be

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challenges as we go to the future is when we look at you

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know one of the

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things that we've got you'll see in the future slide here

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as it goes but should

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we be providing service across 380 right the links Denton

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to say McKinney and

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prosper how can we tie that together I think there's a very

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logical link on

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from Lewisville out to the area near 121 in the toll road

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and actually out to

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McKinney maybe even to prosper they're having trouble

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getting people to work

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getting employees to come in there struggle is that people

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that in the

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five billion dollar mile or whatever it is and I forget now

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how many billions it

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is in Frisco the people that if you're the CEO you can you

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live down the street

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if you're not you're traveling a good distance to get there

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and so is there a

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way that we could find a way to do commuter bus as an

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example that would

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link you know I think it was chase JP Morgan Chase that

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left Lewisville and

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went to Plano legacy area a lot of the folks that you used

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to work I think it's

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Jason JP Morgan Chase I could be wrong on the name but it

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was a large financial

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company that left Lewisville those people still live there

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how are they

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gonna get there we've got challenges with Mary Kay Cos

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metics move their

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their their manufacturing facility from Regal Row up into

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near run convergence

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in Lewisville not a dent in issue but you know how can we

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work with them to

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help that happen is that van pools passes I mean we're and

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we're being and I

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think you can tell by the tenor of what I said about cab

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vouchers dispatch cabs

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we're using we have a contract with Lyft right now that's

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providing service in

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Highland Village it's a very low density area just seems

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that it's actually works

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fairly well for us we're we're set now we'll be

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implementing the next week or

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so using Lyft service for the 2 to 7 a.m. safe ride home

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for the University of

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North Texas under that contract and so we're trying we're

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open to trying

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everything and being as innovative as we can be to provide

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very efficient

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service and address the true need right so instead of

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saying kind of the

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traditional I don't want to say traditional transit but it

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's traditional

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transit way it goes is I have a solution let me desperately

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seek a problem and

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I'd like to flip that around and say let me take your

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problem and then let me see

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if I can find you a good solution so all these things that

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we're testing I

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believe will have well example is the Lyft will be

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operating and Denton will

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be for the University but is there something that could

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happen with that

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could we make a better answer or develop a better answer

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going forward and so a

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lot of opportunity so that's part of what I want the

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feedback from you guys

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to be we know we need to make sure we stay true to as I

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guess dance with who

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brought you so to speak in terms of the communities that

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are paying the sales

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tax and how but how do we add with that context how do we

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also maintain our role

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as a regional partner and bring in new people into this

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into the new services

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into the arena because if we can provide opportunities for

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people in Denton to

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get to work somewhere else wow that's a big one that's a

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big benefit I think and

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how can we do that in a way that's fair to the taxpayers in

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that so just to

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follow up on that so I think what I hear you saying is that

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you have the three

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member cities and they all pay taxes this didn't Highland

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Village in Louisville

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and so those monies are kind of siloed right yeah we're

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very careful when we

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provide a service outside our area that we make sure that

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those are trapped

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captured in a separate organization separate org in our

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accounting system so

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we can track those expenditures and then look at where we

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need to you know what

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makes sense in terms of an administrative fee to bring to

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again

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provide that pay for you know there's a lot of things we do

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we you know I I

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there's one president there's not a president for Frisco

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and a president for

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McKinney there's but one of us and we're leveraging that

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and same with

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procurement so how can we do those things fairly inequit

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ably to to them as

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well as our member cities so we're very careful about that

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so I see on the on the

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next slide under the financial there's just a general

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overall breakdown but

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can we go on your website or a taxpayer and see exactly

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what each member city

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contributes and how that is spent probably not that level

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of specificity

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we do get the way part of it and it's important to keep in

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mind that when you

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look at our overall budget we have I treat the and this is

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I hope this

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answered your question but Denton Highland village Lewis

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ville because of

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the a train really is it's is a is a business unit unto

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itself so we keep

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those make sure we track those funds for that project so

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allocation between bus

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and rail we know what they are how much of that is Denton

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so much of that is

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Lewisville you know and unfortunate party goes to some

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areas that it doesn't

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stop right do Corinth and the Lake Cities which would be a

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good thing if we

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could get that to happen and get them contributing that's

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on the plan we want

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that I think there's a good thing there but we could we

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have all the information

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we put in our board reports on exactly what the

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contributions are from each of

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the agencies so I'd be happy to walk you through that we

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have all that on our

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website we have our budget on the website that shows all

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these different

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units and so and if there's any additional detail you'd

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like I'd be

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happy to provide that or come with some more detail I didn

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't bring a complete

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detail breakdown today but we we have our CAFR we have her

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all that all of our

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information we try to be as transparent as possible you can

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look at our check

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register too yeah I just wanted to let the people watching

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are the people that

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do watch that there is a place they can go find that which

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is on your website

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just because it's not presented here today and if someone

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has a question

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please call us and we'll be happy to help them walk through

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that okay thank

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you so that's a nice segue into my next slide which is

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financial stewardship we

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are one of the things we just got our audit report

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yesterday from 2017 FY 2017

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allocated two hours for the meeting and good news is we

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were done it less than

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an hour no management comments no issues and was an unmod

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ified opinion

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leaves the right word now it used to be unqualified the

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good one so we've been

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taking care of business with your money and I want to make

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sure that's that's an

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approach we take is it is we do see ourselves we do see our

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agency as

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stewards of the money that is given to us but it is our is

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the our community's

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money that we're being stewards of not something that we

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control we do have

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strong reserves this is our FY 18 budget numbers we we

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maintain an operating

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reserve of 90 days meaning that we could do all of our

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operating expenses for 90

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days if our if we received no additional income which is

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not for something we

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foresee is thing that would happen really not a rainy day

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fund this is the

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hurricane fund this is the earthquake fund this is if we

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reach true true

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problems this gives us that level of comfort knowing that

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we can have

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continuity of operations now on a lesser level we have 3%

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of our sales tax we set

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aside to help buffer any changes one of the things that's

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different between DCTA

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in a city is that we have no ad valorem taxes so we're

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subject to the the vast

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majority of our budget is based on sales tax and so we have

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to be ready for a dip

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in sales tax and so by having we by having this 3% that

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gives us a chance to

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slowly work into if we have to have a reduction in service

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we have to cut that

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cost somehow or maybe right out of storm we have a you know

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occasionally and you

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guys see this in your reports it'll be in a big adjustment

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sometimes based on a

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boundary issue with another area so we may have a drop in

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sales tax in a given

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month so this helps us get through that fuel yes ma'am so

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sorry it might be a

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staff question so one when we have like a tax abatement

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agreement for economic

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development how does that affect our sales tax is going to

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DCTA it doesn't

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have any effect okay it's just it's just a city's portion

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of the sales tax not

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DCTAs okay thanks no no no I want you guys to this is I

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want this to be a

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discussion not just a me talking to you we also fuels an

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area that we've been

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very fortunate in in terms of we've been budgeting three

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three fifty four dollars

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a gallon for fueling in years past and so we've been coming

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in at under two

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dollars a gallon in some cases we have a partnership with

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the city of Denton for

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the purchase of fuel for our on-road vehicles and then we

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also purchase red

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dye diesel for our off-road vehicles which is our trains

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but with that we

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still have to watch that that is an area where when you buy

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eight hundred thousand

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gallons of fuel a year a small change in your fuel rate can

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be incredibly

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impactful to your overall budget so we want to make sure we

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've got some money

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set aside out there that the board can allocate if we have

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an increase in fuel

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costs a question for you I know that for some time now you

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have gone from a

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larger train set to a smaller train set so that means less

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fuel how much less

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fuel what percentage we're saving it all in about a half a

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million dollars a year

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we still have the engineer and the conductor on board what

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we found with

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the conductor and and you'll see that and if you go to

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Austin who runs very

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similar actually the same trains we do they don't have a

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conductor we had we

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had a conductor because of the second car to start with

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what we found is that

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the customer service the order on the trains the lack you

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get on our trains we

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don't have graffiti minimal amounts of trash good behavior

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and having that and

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just from a customer service standpoint the conductors help

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a great deal so in

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terms of the crew the crew didn't change but the wear and

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tear on the vehicles

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and the fuel changed and that's about a half million dollar

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a year savings so

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yes ma'am you're talking about Austin which reminded me my

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understanding is

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that there is some movement there to utilize or leverage

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the Volkswagen

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settlement funds to create an electric bus system or at

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least a component of

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their bus system being electric is that something that

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could be feasible for

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Denton it could be I have you know I tell you the trend

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that we've looked at

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in buses in terms of alternate fuels alternate fuels is the

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diesel has been

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getting better and better and better and a progression that

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other agencies have

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done has gone to natural gas I've got a couple of concerns

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with that one is

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we're not quite big enough we're getting close but we're

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not quite big enough to

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justify the cost of the compression you know the compressor

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that has to be

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located or fueling facility potential to share facilities

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that's an answer

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possibly I'm concerned about the noise in the neighborhood

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where our bus

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facility is I don't want to I think making that happen

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would be awkward at

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best so I see the best benefit for the agency is making the

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jump from diesel to

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electric that's the long-term plan what we're watching very

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carefully is what's

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happening in California California is mandated that all

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transit buses have to

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be electric over the next several years right now electric

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bus is about trouble

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what a diesel bus cost so you make up a lot of that and

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maintenance costs

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because you don't have to change the oil it's still got the

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same brakes it's

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still got the same air conditioner but you can save quite a

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bit of money on

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maintenance but the charging facilities are interesting on

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how you have to do

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that because you need it right now the technology is you

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really have to charge

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a midday there are some that can maybe go all day they're

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getting the battery

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technology is getting better and better and with more and

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more buses being sold

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that are electric we're gonna see the I believe we'll see

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the cost go down the

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differential between a diesel bus and electric bus getting

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much closer so my

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my guidance to the staff and what we've developed is that

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long-haul making the

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move from diesel to electric will make the most sense and

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we're open to the

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idea of trying that I think we've got it we just have to

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weigh getting our

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mechanic skill set right getting enough critical mass in

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terms of the buses to

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where it makes sense so I hope that was it I told you how

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to make a watch when I

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should have said yes but anyway that's where we are a

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couple other things just

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internal coverage ratio that's our that's our amount of

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money at the end of

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the month we have left over to pay our debt so we're at two

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and a half almost

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two and a half times what that you know when we we don't

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run out of month for

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running money we're good on that and then solid cash flow

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model I've already

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talked to you about audits I'm sure you all see the same

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thing with the GFA

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awards we've been consistent in that for the last several

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years and the

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procurement award to of excellence in 2016 we're pursuing

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that further now this

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gets into some of the cost size cost savings opportunities

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we are looking at

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right sizing our bus fleet we have we're running all big

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buses in Denton we may

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we're gonna dial some of those back to medium-sized buses

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that'll be more

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efficient with fuel cost of buses and from a city

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perspective lighter

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vehicles that will put less wear and tear on your roads now

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we need the

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bigger buses up to TW up to Denton that's five six seven

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and eight routes

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five six and seven and eight and so we're making that

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happen we've done some

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modifications to our to our routes in fact done some as

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recently as yesterday

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one of the things just a small thing but we've consolidated

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all of our electric

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providers outside of the Denton municipal electric so we

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can have greater

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bidding power on that so that's a positive thing and you've

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seen yes ma'am

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on the right sizing of buses you said smaller buses does

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that mean shorter or

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not as wide I mean I'm just curious because you know

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generally it's gonna be

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a little bit of both and it will you know we run the full-

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size transit buses

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right now so we'd want to probably look at something a

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little bit shorter not

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the full you know not the not the very small buses that we

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run sometimes for

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like the ADA service but a medium-size it's kind of halfway

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in between because

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we we don't run if we're running to the university where

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those buses are full a

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lot of the time or and but in some of the areas routes four

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one two and three

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when we aren't quite as full it doesn't make a lot of

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consistently on some of

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those routes are not utilizing the capacity of that big bus

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it's a big

00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:01.039
cost to it's a big cost to you to run those buses right I'm

00:25:01.039 --> 00:25:01.960
also thinking that

00:25:01.960 --> 00:25:05.170
we have several streets in Denton that are smaller streets

00:25:05.170 --> 00:25:06.039
which make the

00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:08.519
bigger buses more difficult especially when there's cars

00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:10.079
parked on the road and

00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:14.930
cyclists so getting everybody on the street safely is a

00:25:14.930 --> 00:25:16.440
concern so this is

00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:19.250
interesting thank you well and having been a public works

00:25:19.250 --> 00:25:20.319
director in the past

00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:23.839
in my previous engagement with the city of Irving the the

00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:25.400
heavy vehicles in the

00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:28.150
right lane puts a lot of damp mean it is a an impact to

00:25:28.150 --> 00:25:29.599
streets I mean that's just

00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:33.400
where we have trucks large trucks buses so if we can light

00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:35.279
en that load that helps

00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:39.269
reduce cost to the community as well we did get a lot of

00:25:39.269 --> 00:25:41.319
federal funding oh I'm

00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:43.799
sorry positive train control which we're moving forward on

00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:44.839
that's that's happening

00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:47.420
we did save a lot of money by going with the different

00:25:47.420 --> 00:25:49.039
technology same with rail

00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:52.059
ops we rebid our we sent out for procurement our rail

00:25:52.059 --> 00:25:54.920
operations and saved

00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:57.029
amount of me in a year a little over a million dollars a

00:25:57.029 --> 00:25:57.799
year with the new

00:25:57.799 --> 00:26:00.650
procurement and we're always in the pursuit of other people

00:26:00.650 --> 00:26:01.119
's money

00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:04.890
particularly the federal government and for trails positive

00:26:04.890 --> 00:26:05.640
train control

00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:09.390
transportation development credits which are credits for

00:26:09.390 --> 00:26:11.079
tolls paid we get it's a

00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:12.950
long story kind of a roundabout way but it keeps us from

00:26:12.950 --> 00:26:13.839
having to pay matching

00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:18.039
funds and we did get the bus maintenance facility paid for

00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:19.400
80% so we're the city

00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:22.039
of her in the city of Denton we might just talk a little

00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:22.599
bit more about

00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:27.250
positive train controls in the news last month that the

00:26:27.250 --> 00:26:28.640
train in the so

00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:36.279
Washington Washington so very short answer to what is the

00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:36.759
purpose of

00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:40.059
positive train control positive train control provides a

00:26:40.059 --> 00:26:41.720
that will stop the

00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:44.359
train outside the control the engineer if one of four

00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:45.960
things happens this

00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:50.609
overspeed it's incurring into a temporary speed restriction

00:26:50.609 --> 00:26:51.359
like a for a

00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:56.690
great crossings out that's this out of operation it will

00:26:56.690 --> 00:26:57.680
stop a train if it

00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:02.460
violates a work zone and we'll stop the train if it viol

00:27:02.460 --> 00:27:03.960
ates if it if a switch

00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:07.380
is misaligned so you have a train that's coming at 60 that

00:27:07.380 --> 00:27:09.000
hits a quick switch

00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:12.440
that can cause a derailment and so those are the things

00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:13.799
that are out there now

00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:17.039
the agencies that have to operate on the general rail

00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:18.440
system have to also be

00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:21.710
interoperable meaning they have to be able to any railroad

00:27:21.710 --> 00:27:23.079
can come in and use

00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:25.890
the system we're somewhat on an island that's one of the

00:27:25.890 --> 00:27:26.720
reasons why the

00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:31.369
alternate technology work part of it is is if it's the

00:27:31.369 --> 00:27:32.680
person driving the train

00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:36.140
I don't know what you call that person engineer is not

00:27:36.140 --> 00:27:38.799
paying attention and for

00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:41.960
whatever reason if and you've seen a lot of them where the

00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:43.839
reports are right that

00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:46.519
the engineers have lost situational awareness and they've

00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:47.279
lost where they

00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:50.339
are because you know I mean if you make the bold presum

00:27:50.339 --> 00:27:51.200
ption that the engineer

00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:55.140
has the same will to survive as the passengers do you know

00:27:55.140 --> 00:27:55.880
when they that

00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:58.410
one particular incident as reported hit a we're going

00:27:58.410 --> 00:28:00.000
basically about 80 miles an

00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:03.599
hour and hit a point appropriately to go 80 and then didn't

00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:04.200
slow down when they

00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:06.380
got to the point where it should have been going 30 now on

00:28:06.380 --> 00:28:08.119
our tracks we've

00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:10.160
basically got a straight track from one end to the other

00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:11.039
there are a few curves

00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:15.690
and we run at a maximum speed of 60 so our train we think

00:28:15.690 --> 00:28:16.920
that's a fairly

00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:20.960
de minimis risk for us but our PTC system will enforce all

00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:21.640
of those things

00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:26.289
that it said well you also have on the trains I saw this

00:28:26.289 --> 00:28:28.160
when we did a field

00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:34.480
trip out there the engineer every 30 seconds has to and

00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:36.720
they are a case I

00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:40.700
think it notifies the dispatcher and then they go stop and

00:28:40.700 --> 00:28:42.079
pricing how we can

00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:44.890
do thing because you know during the construction it hurt

00:28:44.890 --> 00:28:45.440
and be very

00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.430
specific about that almost 500 riders that showed a

00:28:48.430 --> 00:28:50.839
positive thing so on the

00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:54.430
table for discussion I think we need to look at a dramatic

00:28:54.430 --> 00:28:55.799
too also is what are

00:28:55.799 --> 00:29:00.480
we trying to do in terms of how do we get the best bang for

00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:01.519
a buck sure you

00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:04.930
know and I'd be honest the best riders for us are 250 days

00:29:04.930 --> 00:29:06.359
a year rock workers

00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:11.140
or students coming in those weekdays every every day every

00:29:11.140 --> 00:29:12.640
week or three days

00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:15.099
a week those are the ones that actually the backbone of a

00:29:15.099 --> 00:29:16.799
ridership yes well

00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:21.440
speaking of students and it's jumping down on your list

00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:25.720
with NCTC planning to

00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:30.119
have a downtown campus by those are areas where we saw

00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:31.240
where is that just

00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:35.210
that get on a train or a bus now if they ride now it's not

00:29:35.210 --> 00:29:36.720
linked trips meaning

00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:40.369
that if you ride the train and then you ride a bus that

00:29:40.369 --> 00:29:41.519
would be separate

00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.259
boardings that's how we do the numbers okay so one to your

00:29:45.259 --> 00:29:46.880
that other and it

00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:50.119
has we wanted to go through and say gosh what are the

00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:51.400
benefit at all of these

00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:54.029
things and what's happens make a big difference even people

00:29:54.029 --> 00:29:54.880
did this says

00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:57.950
Lake City's completion or final throws of that right now

00:29:57.950 --> 00:29:59.119
that was it should be

00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:02.579
we're going out to bid short the county so I think there's

00:30:02.579 --> 00:30:03.920
two pieces to go with

00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:09.289
that one DW that's a very logical route I mean things in

00:30:09.289 --> 00:30:11.440
Austin where they had

00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:15.079
you know torn up and and I know y'all are you know the the

00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:16.400
v-ride bikes and all

00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:20.000
them but if we had bikes that were say Dalton's bike that

00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:21.359
wanted to leave his

00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:24.559
bike overnight about how do we facilitate bike training

00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:25.160
that we already

00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:30.329
have so future I'm just gonna keep up with that I tend to I

00:30:30.329 --> 00:30:31.440
mean having

00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:34.039
having been ability and then that nuts to me is a natural

00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:35.000
low income what we

00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:38.650
typically do is we bore those to sell passes at a very

00:30:38.650 --> 00:30:40.319
reduced rate they may

00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:42.380
then choose to give those to people or sell them and then

00:30:42.380 --> 00:30:43.119
they sell them at a

00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:47.130
further discount right now well in a I guess on the 25th

00:30:47.130 --> 00:30:48.200
there's a point in time

00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:50.789
that's it thank you so much for thank you and discuss

00:30:50.789 --> 00:30:51.880
meeting times and dates

00:30:51.880 --> 00:31:01.220
for future was was held of recent those meetings of back I

00:31:01.220 --> 00:31:04.160
mean maya culpa it's

00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:07.900
me I don't want meetings on Tuesdays it's better to have a

00:31:07.900 --> 00:31:09.880
back-to-back meeting

00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:14.660
so I someone to handle my kids for a certain day instead of

00:31:14.660 --> 00:31:15.480
having something

00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:19.230
every single day but I'm okay with not having them on

00:31:19.230 --> 00:31:20.200
Tuesdays what I would

00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:23.609
like for you guys to consider is that there's economic

00:31:23.609 --> 00:31:26.440
development there's out

00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.240
of you definitely can't eating for economic development or

00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:30.799
be blocked off

00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:36.700
on my schedule as me our Tuesdays were just just thing that

00:31:36.700 --> 00:31:37.400
made for long days

00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.410
but but but that's why we ended up with them you know you

00:31:41.410 --> 00:31:42.680
need to get set that

00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:47.460
yeah I think I've told you when I can't come with with with

00:31:47.460 --> 00:31:48.720
schedule or some of

00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:52.019
the other committees is those meetings end up getting moved

00:31:52.019 --> 00:31:52.880
over to set date

00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.470
and then and then something happens in the second Wednesday

00:31:56.470 --> 00:31:57.640
of the month which

00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:00.710
is one of the Wednesdays you were out so we're all here on

00:32:00.710 --> 00:32:01.920
the third Wednesday of

00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:13.359
the month it appears open it also provides in the past to

00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:14.440
do an RTC and

00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:20.339
with Commissioner Mitchell on those staff direction to

00:32:20.339 --> 00:32:22.000
frame if it works

00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:28.289
maybe okay so I think that's it for agenda the third

00:32:28.289 --> 00:32:30.119
Wednesday at 1130 or

00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:34.769
noon meetings until May then we're gonna go back up to the

00:32:34.769 --> 00:32:35.359
discussion and provide

00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:38.660
direction regarding Texas Department of Transportation

00:32:38.660 --> 00:32:39.920
include the 35 Express

00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:43.069
project and I believe mr. Polster will be doing that that's

00:32:43.069 --> 00:32:43.579
correct just madam

00:32:43.579 --> 00:32:45.680
sure what and we'll probably move through this a little bit

00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:46.480
quickly based

00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:49.289
on the fact that we we heard quite a bit of about some of

00:32:49.289 --> 00:32:50.160
the transportation

00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:56.509
product I'd have to go up to the podium is it the handout

00:32:56.509 --> 00:32:58.000
from yesterday

00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:15.819
I think most of y'all remembered a lot of what we covered

00:33:15.819 --> 00:33:16.720
yesterday but this is a

00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:21.950
project that starts we're the 2499 hang on are we just

00:33:21.950 --> 00:33:23.160
going over what we went

00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:31.460
over yesterday essentially well John's here and he blazer

00:33:31.460 --> 00:33:32.759
and hat what he was

00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:35.569
gonna do is hit these first three very quickly and then

00:33:35.569 --> 00:33:36.400
roll on to the back

00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:40.490
side of the report which okay so on 2181 the north-south

00:33:40.490 --> 00:33:41.880
segment project this is

00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:45.779
the project that is being done by MCM the main issue I

00:33:45.779 --> 00:33:47.440
wanted to point out is

00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:50.880
that it has a construction time frame between now and

00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:52.799
January 2020 phases of

00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.490
the project there will be that they can really give you a

00:33:55.490 --> 00:33:57.200
notice on because they

00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:01.720
do it up and down the group clearing the drainage areas and

00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:02.400
the and beginning

00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:05.559
substructure improvement so the main some impacts to

00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:07.240
traffic foreseeable future

00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:11.059
with the one traffic one lane going for both directions

00:34:11.059 --> 00:34:12.800
using flaggers that's

00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.110
the main point on that one three studies yesterday this

00:34:15.110 --> 00:34:16.840
project is going to be

00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:20.579
ready to let by Malibu have the exhibit a executed road

00:34:20.579 --> 00:34:22.519
with a may let day and

00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:26.150
once we get that project let we'll have the number of days

00:34:26.150 --> 00:34:27.400
in the contract that

00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:29.789
the contractor bid we'll be able to tell you what the

00:34:29.789 --> 00:34:31.360
contract completion date is

00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:35.309
the item and the rest of them have been really Pacific Rail

00:34:35.309 --> 00:34:36.880
road to let it that's

00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:41.659
a sense of what this sheet says is on the utilities 2199

00:34:41.659 --> 00:34:43.599
section 5 this road

00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:46.800
is partially open except for in and around Robinson Road

00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:48.639
the Stots

00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:53.280
contractors subcontinent to install the signal so we went

00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:54.920
with another firm that

00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:58.889
the city uses regularly as well and we're anticipating them

00:34:58.889 --> 00:34:59.960
being out there

00:34:59.960 --> 00:35:02.909
and having the signal installed within 30 days so it hits

00:35:02.909 --> 00:35:03.960
that February time

00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:08.860
frame these are the ultimate improvements LTR Campbell will

00:35:08.860 --> 00:35:08.960
be

00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:13.960
removing David Lavelle off the report he's no longer 1c on

00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:16.480
our project that

00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:21.260
the schedule the time frame on this project and right away

00:35:21.260 --> 00:35:22.639
is not necessary

00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:26.090
because we're making improvements within our utilities

00:35:26.090 --> 00:35:28.219
should be minimal given

00:35:28.219 --> 00:35:30.679
that everything's out there's been torn up over the last

00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:31.960
three years so we think

00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:36.739
that once we get LTR a on contract top fairly quickly and

00:35:36.739 --> 00:35:37.840
have these

00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:41.590
improvements on the ground sooner than one would normally

00:35:41.590 --> 00:35:42.880
think it on the

00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:48.380
issues with where I'm reporting December to January is what

00:35:48.380 --> 00:35:49.320
OHL is saying they're

00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:52.559
gonna do but Texas not accepting that schedule so I mean

00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:54.239
because even if we

00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:57.579
don't I December I think we can have done by August of 2018

00:35:57.579 --> 00:35:58.440
because they were

00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:02.719
gonna want to try to be open that fall of 2018 so they're

00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:04.079
open and we're not

00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:07.150
completely not unusual or unaware of because we did the

00:36:07.150 --> 00:36:08.239
same thing at the

00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:12.320
one the 114 and when they're supposed to open yet I mean I

00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:12.960
've seen signs that

00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:19.440
say 2019 but do we have any idea when we were doing the

00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:21.480
negotiations Jill we were

00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:24.389
given was we needed to have our our improvements done

00:36:24.389 --> 00:36:25.639
sometime in the summer

00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:29.449
of 2018 because that's when they 2019 they may be hedging

00:36:29.449 --> 00:36:31.239
their bets but but I

00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:33.300
can't because I'm actually working with them on an honest

00:36:33.300 --> 00:36:34.280
job I'll be seeing

00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:37.230
them tomorrow I can ask that yeah I think there's a lot of

00:36:37.230 --> 00:36:38.239
interest in if

00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:41.119
that roads gonna be finished or what the overlap might be

00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:48.199
yes there is and so

00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:51.559
with this project yesterday mark of very eloquently went

00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:52.920
over all the up and down

00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:55.409
the corridor issues with your secondary streets that are

00:36:55.409 --> 00:36:57.079
going to be stuff that

00:36:57.079 --> 00:36:59.900
they have to we have to maintain and pay attention to so

00:36:59.900 --> 00:37:01.880
this is a 35 project

00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:06.030
from 380 north to the county line this is a project we are

00:37:06.030 --> 00:37:07.480
almost done with the

00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:09.949
value engineering and once we get through the value

00:37:09.949 --> 00:37:12.599
engineering then the

00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:17.599
district will basically meet with the division headquarters

00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:18.599
folks about

00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:22.590
looking at the timing for funding this project and it is

00:37:22.590 --> 00:37:25.760
currently estimated

00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:29.730
it's just about 860 million bucks that's not a lot we can

00:37:29.730 --> 00:37:30.760
that's a rounding

00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:34.309
area for those guys in Austin we can work that out so once

00:37:34.309 --> 00:37:35.679
we get the value

00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.989
engineering done the critical path item on this project

00:37:38.989 --> 00:37:39.960
right now on the

00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:45.349
schedule is the environmental clearance for for the end of

00:37:45.349 --> 00:37:46.440
this year and we're

00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:49.360
on track for that if we get the value engineering done once

00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:49.760
we get the

00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:53.300
environmental clearance done then it allows us to begin the

00:37:53.300 --> 00:37:54.000
right away

00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:58.650
acquisition and those funds are paid for out of a different

00:37:58.650 --> 00:37:59.360
bucket than the

00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:01.199
construction dollar so they can go ahead and start

00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:02.360
acquiring the right away in

00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:05.659
that corridor so you'll start to see this project schedule

00:38:05.659 --> 00:38:06.840
mature fairly

00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:11.059
quickly after the December 2018 environmental clearance

00:38:11.059 --> 00:38:12.800
date so in town

00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.190
you know it I just left it in there they're doing punch

00:38:15.190 --> 00:38:16.320
list items TDLR but

00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:20.090
it's completed and open to traffic you will not see this in

00:38:20.090 --> 00:38:21.199
your report next

00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:26.260
month because we take them out once we're done 288 this is

00:38:26.260 --> 00:38:27.239
a project that

00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:29.960
Miss Briggs was talking about this is a project that's

00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:31.199
basically going to be a

00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:35.849
maintenance job and Tina's telling us that during the

00:38:35.849 --> 00:38:37.519
summer when it's warmer

00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:39.989
she'll come back in and do these improvements and they'll

00:38:39.989 --> 00:38:40.639
do she's going

00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:44.039
to do them to the inside so it won't require any additional

00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:44.639
work for the

00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:50.460
drainage it's on the outside of 288 there at 380 so we

00:38:50.460 --> 00:38:51.159
should start to see

00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:54.280
something happen on this project during this summer time

00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:56.960
frame just do maintenance

00:38:56.960 --> 00:39:00.530
work just for clarification for those who are participating

00:39:00.530 --> 00:39:01.760
via video confer

00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:06.159
video Tina is Tina Massey the area engineer here and the

00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:06.920
Denton office

00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:10.659
okay and just to confirm there's going to be a separate

00:39:10.659 --> 00:39:13.320
right-hand lane in that

00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:15.730
area what's happening is the traffic coming on right that

00:39:15.730 --> 00:39:16.800
lane is actually

00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:19.409
we're gonna do if you look at it on the inside where we can

00:39:19.409 --> 00:39:20.199
come in and add

00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:24.159
another lane a u-turn left so you had because it's very low

00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:25.719
volume u-turn

00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:29.519
movement there literally go through because there's no

00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:31.360
point right can you

00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:34.000
not going back on the highway unless you got lost but you

00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:35.800
still have to have okay

00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:38.760
just getting confirmation for that right turn lane again

00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:40.000
yes that's the whole

00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:45.920
point these project this is a project that's a basically

00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:47.760
trail into the green

00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:51.300
belt it's done and they've got two firms doing should be

00:39:51.300 --> 00:39:52.440
done sometime in the

00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:57.079
spring for the plans as those plans come together we we

00:39:57.079 --> 00:39:58.880
bring those to the city

00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.559
engineers and let them review make sure that it's

00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:03.000
consistent with what they have

00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:11.190
Oh Teal and like it's a super Street well you heard it here

00:40:11.190 --> 00:40:13.280
first that's what I

00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:15.679
usually tell people when we're doing a project in the

00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:17.000
current document which is

00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:20.059
expedite the environmental clearance so we should have this

00:40:20.059 --> 00:40:21.480
project schematic

00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:25.280
approved and once the environmental document is cleared

00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:26.599
elements can be

00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:30.519
moved up 2045 plans update and with text that the county

00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:31.519
originally and text that

00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:35.039
said look you keep your powder dry we'll pick them up to do

00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:36.559
so we have to wait

00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:42.090
again till the mobility 2045 plan is a firm for a project

00:40:42.090 --> 00:40:43.019
that's not in the

00:40:43.019 --> 00:40:47.800
plan and it will be in the plan this summer so again again

00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:50.320
on 288 I do that

00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:59.019
the environment is done on that it is not okay we have what

00:40:59.019 --> 00:41:00.360
we call a locally

00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:03.320
and technically preferred alternative what the city wants

00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:04.519
what our mental

00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:07.460
process and we were starting about four months ago from the

00:41:07.460 --> 00:41:08.320
county stand to

00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:12.789
spend the money on environmental let them do it and 15 I'm

00:41:12.789 --> 00:41:13.360
not sure exactly

00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:22.369
why is there's two maps and I am technically I'm wording

00:41:22.369 --> 00:41:23.039
underneath it

00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:27.360
says that we've got LTR it's the timing on 15 so we just

00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:29.119
got them on contract

00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:33.900
this past commission's us a fee they've already submitted

00:41:33.900 --> 00:41:35.119
some fee we got them on

00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.920
contract we're gonna go meet with text dot part of February

00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:39.400
and get the time

00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:44.590
schedule again primarily y'all y'all will be the driver on

00:41:44.590 --> 00:41:47.159
what it is 1515

00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:51.010
but it's for the businesses out there getting we feel need

00:41:51.010 --> 00:41:52.119
so we are way of

00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:54.469
issue for the city is to make sure that why doesn't shut

00:41:54.469 --> 00:41:55.599
some of these guys down

00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:59.000
during their shift changes so that'll be like a zing of the

00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:00.000
project to keep

00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:02.679
changes in mind

00:42:03.159 --> 00:42:07.809
there are improvements that are on 1830 this is up text

00:42:07.809 --> 00:42:09.800
that also will start to segment

00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:13.000
out room and on 1830 where they're going to be coming

00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:15.719
making into a slash rural

00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:19.309
is a unique animal in some areas dance although the traffic

00:42:19.309 --> 00:42:20.320
warrants a raised

00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:24.389
median the time 1830 are more rural in nature and so we're

00:42:24.389 --> 00:42:25.400
either looking at

00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.730
areas that will have a contract on engineering contract

00:42:28.730 --> 00:42:29.860
will work with the

00:42:29.860 --> 00:42:33.389
city on what segments of that project or what type of

00:42:33.389 --> 00:42:35.079
crossing over to e which is

00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:39.010
the last item staff reports we have a memo for bike share

00:42:39.010 --> 00:42:40.840
permit Texas trails

00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:43.809
and active transportation see a permit policy as it relates

00:42:43.809 --> 00:42:45.000
to dockless bike

00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:48.480
shares in fact here momentarily also wanted to bring your

00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:49.480
attention to the

00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:53.000
Texas trails and active active transportation conference

00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:53.679
that'll be

00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:59.150
down on the UT campus I'm sorry May 2nd through I've gone

00:42:59.150 --> 00:42:59.800
ahead and reserved

00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:05.199
to ensure that we have represent we're determining which

00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:06.400
which of the

00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:09.309
engineers will go I assume that I'll probably go and then

00:43:09.309 --> 00:43:10.199
we can also read

00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:14.219
all of them have been on but since bidding fine to do it

00:43:14.219 --> 00:43:15.320
probably isn't

00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:20.769
worthy for me to go it could very well be that other folks

00:43:20.769 --> 00:43:21.679
also right so we'll

00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:25.210
keep those hotel reservations open until keep you updated

00:43:25.210 --> 00:43:26.159
as to who will be

00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:28.860
attending that particular conference but it's been it's

00:43:28.860 --> 00:43:30.000
been a positive conference

00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:34.650
that we've attended I know city staff has attended the 16

00:43:34.650 --> 00:43:36.280
event in Houston and

00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:40.039
the 14 event in full

00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:51.360
sorry I wasn't on mic question of clarification regarding

00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:51.920
councilwoman

00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:55.519
Briggs request for a left turn discussion on left turn off

00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:56.440
old 18 did

00:43:56.440 --> 00:44:00.190
we already get that we were gonna do a verbal here at this

00:44:00.190 --> 00:44:00.880
particular meeting

00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:07.380
okay and so yeah the reason it's a verbal it was on one of

00:44:07.380 --> 00:44:09.239
the projects on

00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:12.969
the small project list that was approved by council for

00:44:12.969 --> 00:44:15.280
funding so this the RFQ

00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:19.289
is out we're in the process of selecting design consultant

00:44:19.289 --> 00:44:21.440
for one of this part

00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:23.800
of the six projects so this will be designed and

00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:25.079
constructed this year I

00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:28.320
think yeah you addressed that with a small quick projects

00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:30.760
presentation okay I

00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:40.400
think that's it question about we late those come through

00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:41.480
the mobility

00:44:41.480 --> 00:44:45.250
committee before they go to council did that one come

00:44:45.250 --> 00:44:46.599
through us before we

00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:51.900
changed we passed something last weekend on the consent

00:44:51.900 --> 00:44:53.360
agenda councilmember

00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:55.519
typically those will go through the traffic safety

00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:57.280
Commission okay and then

00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:00.159
they'll make a recommendation to committee of the whole and

00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:00.719
I believe

00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:04.170
that anyhow there was a question about about that a speed

00:45:04.170 --> 00:45:05.280
limits were maybe too

00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:12.380
high and I've sent I answered her but it may be appropriate

00:45:12.380 --> 00:45:13.760
tentatively to just

00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:20.860
put an explanation on our next agenda how the steps that

00:45:20.860 --> 00:45:22.599
happen to in process

00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:26.820
and the rules at the state level that that sort of direct

00:45:26.820 --> 00:45:28.199
that but she also

00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:32.849
raised the concern that there is a school located at the

00:45:32.849 --> 00:45:33.679
corner of

00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:40.130
Nottingham and University Drive Calvary Calvary Christian

00:45:40.130 --> 00:45:41.280
Academy and we've

00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:47.179
actually passed a rezoning for that for that location so it

00:45:47.179 --> 00:45:48.639
's it's an official

00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:54.539
school location and I don't know that they've requested a

00:45:54.539 --> 00:45:55.760
school zone I don't

00:45:55.760 --> 00:46:01.579
know that it's needed but I'm very curious about if there's

00:46:01.579 --> 00:46:02.199
a school there

00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:05.159
do they even have to request it or is that an automatic

00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:07.199
trigger for some other

00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:13.500
type of speed limit in that area so if y'all would check

00:46:13.500 --> 00:46:14.679
into that and make

00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:17.559
that part of the report very well we can do that the the

00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:18.559
other thing is

00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:23.650
regarding the May 2nd through 4th Texas Trails and

00:46:23.650 --> 00:46:26.280
Transportation Conference I'm

00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:28.119
just wondering if we think we're gonna have a bike

00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:29.119
coordinator hired by that

00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:32.360
time so that that person could attend the conference do we

00:46:32.360 --> 00:46:33.639
know what the time

00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:37.639
frame is for that I don't have a specific time frame for

00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.639
that but but I

00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:43.079
think that would be our hope is to have somebody on board

00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:44.480
it's January in place

00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:48.349
that's four months away so we certainly should have

00:46:48.349 --> 00:46:49.079
somebody on board by then

00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:58.420
okay okay I think that's it just well if with the traffic

00:46:58.420 --> 00:46:58.800
calming art

00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:02.800
presentation next week if we can be sure to include funding

00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:04.039
options very well

00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:08.510
okay no new business besides what you brought up okay that

00:47:08.510 --> 00:47:09.960
will conclude this

00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:18.639
meeting and we are adjourned at 1259
