1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,780 mobility committee that's Wednesday January 17th 2018 it's 2 00:00:04,780 --> 00:00:07,759 1134 we do have a 3 00:00:07,759 --> 00:00:11,589 quorum so we'll go ahead and convene our regular meeting 4 00:00:11,589 --> 00:00:12,880 with item a which is 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,179 consider approval of the mobility committee of the Dutton 6 00:00:15,179 --> 00:00:15,759 City Council 7 00:00:15,759 --> 00:00:20,329 meeting minutes of November 14 2017 I'll entertain a motion 8 00:00:20,329 --> 00:00:21,399 I'll move approval 9 00:00:21,399 --> 00:00:26,050 okay motion and second all in favor please raise your hand 10 00:00:26,050 --> 00:00:27,359 passes unanimously 11 00:00:27,359 --> 00:00:30,879 item two is receive a report hold a discussion I'm sorry 12 00:00:30,879 --> 00:00:32,240 item B is receive a 13 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,100 report hold a discussion and provide direction regarding 14 00:00:35,100 --> 00:00:36,039 Texas Department of 15 00:00:36,039 --> 00:00:38,750 Transportation on system projects in the Denton area to 16 00:00:38,750 --> 00:00:40,159 include the 35 Express 17 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:46,200 project okay we have with us madam chair Jim Klein 18 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,520 president of DCTA well did you 19 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,899 want to start with the DCTA item first and then go to on 20 00:00:52,899 --> 00:00:53,820 system that would be 21 00:00:53,820 --> 00:00:57,359 our request yes sir permission so we'll skip item B and 22 00:00:57,359 --> 00:00:58,479 then we'll go to item C 23 00:00:58,479 --> 00:01:02,380 which is receive a report from DCTA staff to include state 24 00:01:02,380 --> 00:01:03,320 of the agency 25 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,519 passenger enhancements bus operations and DCTA capital 26 00:01:06,519 --> 00:01:07,760 projects and provide 27 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,980 direction regarding strategic initiatives in the Denton 28 00:01:09,980 --> 00:01:10,280 County 29 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,079 Transportation Authority service plan so so we do have with 30 00:01:14,079 --> 00:01:15,760 us this morning Jim 31 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,030 Klein who's president of DCTA with him we also have the 32 00:01:19,030 --> 00:01:20,000 city of Denton 33 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,739 representative who serves on the board for DCTA and that is 34 00:01:23,739 --> 00:01:25,579 Richard Huckabee so 35 00:01:25,579 --> 00:01:30,519 with that I'd like to turn it over to Jim Klein just a 36 00:01:30,519 --> 00:01:34,120 hello for mr. Huckabee 37 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:39,719 for the record thanks Jim yes ma'am 38 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,140 thank you all for having us by the way we're always happy 39 00:01:52,140 --> 00:01:56,239 to come here to the 40 00:01:56,239 --> 00:01:58,540 mobility committee the City Council or any of your public 41 00:01:58,540 --> 00:01:59,480 meetings I know we've 42 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:04,420 been active in the neighborhood study around the University 43 00:02:04,420 --> 00:02:05,840 there's two of us 44 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:05,840 that sit on that committee so the that's been it's been 45 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:10,280 very interesting in terms 46 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:10,280 of how maybe we can be a part of that and at least getting 47 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,520 certainly gives us 48 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,050 a lot of insight into the community and how people how that 49 00:02:18,050 --> 00:02:19,159 how the people we 50 00:02:19,159 --> 00:02:25,520 serve see the future of the area so a little bit about DCTA 51 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:26,240 y'all know us 52 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,840 pretty well our vision you know we want to be leaders in 53 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,800 what we do and as a 54 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,379 part of our region which is really important that we are 55 00:02:33,379 --> 00:02:34,000 part of what 56 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,710 happens with DART and the forward transportation authority 57 00:02:36,710 --> 00:02:37,360 that we bring 58 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,270 forward first of all safe and serve our customers and be as 59 00:02:41,270 --> 00:02:42,680 efficient as we can 60 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,750 and so see a lot of the strategic drivers higher education 61 00:02:46,750 --> 00:02:47,800 is probably the 62 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,370 thing that drives that actually is the biggest driver of 63 00:02:50,370 --> 00:02:52,400 our ridership and so 64 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,530 our partnerships with the University of North Texas Texas 65 00:02:55,530 --> 00:02:56,879 Women's University and 66 00:02:56,879 --> 00:03:01,530 NCTC are incredibly important to the future of our agency 67 00:03:01,530 --> 00:03:03,039 and we always the 68 00:03:03,039 --> 00:03:06,199 second from the bottom we're always seeking opportunities 69 00:03:06,199 --> 00:03:08,360 for any additional 70 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,169 partners that we can find to enhance service and make it 71 00:03:11,169 --> 00:03:12,860 better for our 72 00:03:12,860 --> 00:03:18,840 community we always talk about you know why why do we have 73 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,120 transit you know 74 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,270 there's we'll talk about ridership and some of those things 75 00:03:22,270 --> 00:03:22,960 that are going on 76 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,110 but you know we want to make sure that we do provide you 77 00:03:27,110 --> 00:03:29,199 know it'd be ridiculous 78 00:03:29,199 --> 00:03:31,349 for me to say that we're going to be able to provide an 79 00:03:31,349 --> 00:03:32,080 opportunity for 80 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,879 everybody in Denton County to not own a car but if we can 81 00:03:35,879 --> 00:03:37,879 get more a lot get 82 00:03:37,879 --> 00:03:40,689 and provide an alternative to that single occupant vehicle 83 00:03:40,689 --> 00:03:41,360 maybe a family 84 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,060 could have one car instead of two I think those are things 85 00:03:44,060 --> 00:03:44,840 and particularly 86 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,349 development around stations where we can really make a 87 00:03:47,349 --> 00:03:49,080 difference in that and then 88 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,069 we talked about access to education to work independent 89 00:03:53,069 --> 00:03:54,800 mobility I pitch a lot 90 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,069 of times that when you look at a senior as we all and the 91 00:03:58,069 --> 00:03:59,400 same thing I'm facing 92 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,800 as we all get older how do we maintain our independent 93 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,879 mobility and could we 94 00:04:04,879 --> 00:04:08,370 through transit extend independent mobility for another ten 95 00:04:08,370 --> 00:04:09,919 years is that 96 00:04:09,919 --> 00:04:13,330 an option and how do we do that in a low density area and 97 00:04:13,330 --> 00:04:15,199 we found that by doing 98 00:04:15,199 --> 00:04:18,670 some different things through Lyft domain responsive 99 00:04:18,670 --> 00:04:20,000 service taxis we've 100 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,360 done a lot of things who are experimenting with a lot of 101 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:22,899 things and 102 00:04:22,899 --> 00:04:26,870 having some success and so you know how can we keep people 103 00:04:26,870 --> 00:04:27,839 from in their 104 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,069 neighborhoods in their homes for the longest period 105 00:04:30,069 --> 00:04:31,040 possible so there's a 106 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,639 real social benefit I think societal benefit to what we do 107 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:35,959 had an interesting 108 00:04:35,959 --> 00:04:38,660 experience with the I think everybody had an interesting 109 00:04:38,660 --> 00:04:39,680 experience with the 110 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,519 whole Amazon deal I was approached by the city of Denton 111 00:04:44,519 --> 00:04:46,040 many communities both 112 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,250 in and out of the service area for what are you gonna do 113 00:04:48,250 --> 00:04:49,439 about transit if Amazon 114 00:04:49,439 --> 00:04:53,410 comes well I sent the same we basically the same response 115 00:04:53,410 --> 00:04:54,040 is of course we're 116 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,399 gonna be part of the region and we'll be happy to to work 117 00:04:56,399 --> 00:04:57,480 with that and work with 118 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,689 our funding partners to make that happen but it was 119 00:04:59,689 --> 00:05:00,740 interesting to see the 120 00:05:00,740 --> 00:05:03,550 interest of the business community and what kind of transit 121 00:05:03,550 --> 00:05:04,000 service is 122 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,959 available and what options exist for their employees so we 123 00:05:07,959 --> 00:05:09,439 're hearing a lot 124 00:05:09,439 --> 00:05:11,899 about that but that was certainly one thing that's anecd 125 00:05:11,899 --> 00:05:12,720 otal in terms of the 126 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,459 headquarters to site selection process it was that we went 127 00:05:16,459 --> 00:05:17,480 through with our 128 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:22,259 partners so when we look at regional growth a lot of 129 00:05:22,259 --> 00:05:23,060 opportunities in our 130 00:05:23,060 --> 00:05:26,649 member cities to expand service we've just completed some 131 00:05:26,649 --> 00:05:28,759 service changes here 132 00:05:28,759 --> 00:05:32,560 in the city of Denton with route 4 extending route 6 off to 133 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,319 Discovery Park 134 00:05:33,319 --> 00:05:35,600 a lot of it has to do with how we coordinated with the 135 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:36,480 University of North 136 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:41,699 Texas to streamline our services and bring about that a 137 00:05:41,699 --> 00:05:42,839 long-term arrangement 138 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,870 with the University to continue our long-term arrangement 139 00:05:45,870 --> 00:05:46,680 with University of 140 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:51,110 North Texas we currently do you know while we were focused 141 00:05:51,110 --> 00:05:51,560 on our three 142 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,500 service sales tax contributing member cities Corinth and 143 00:05:55,500 --> 00:05:56,519 Flower Mound 144 00:05:56,519 --> 00:06:01,300 NCTC pays us to provide service in those communities to tie 145 00:06:01,300 --> 00:06:02,000 it to the 146 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:07,029 University we're partnering with the city of with the Fort 147 00:06:07,029 --> 00:06:07,600 Worth 148 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,019 Transportation Authority to link downtown Denton to 149 00:06:11,019 --> 00:06:12,399 downtown Fort Worth 150 00:06:12,399 --> 00:06:17,050 they provide one they provide a bus and we do and we run 151 00:06:17,050 --> 00:06:18,199 opposite so they've 152 00:06:18,199 --> 00:06:21,420 been so we share the service and it provides another 153 00:06:21,420 --> 00:06:22,519 opportunity for 154 00:06:22,519 --> 00:06:26,120 education and for workers and so we're in a lot of 155 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,800 conversations with certainly 156 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,920 UNT Alliance Frisco Flower Mound on the colony and others 157 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,279 and looking at how we 158 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,069 can continue to grow these partnerships and you guys stop 159 00:06:38,069 --> 00:06:38,839 me if you got any 160 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,800 questions because I'm this is some of this is old hat for 161 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:42,639 you know some of 162 00:06:42,639 --> 00:06:45,939 y'all have heard some of these things before but as we go 163 00:06:45,939 --> 00:06:47,439 through just please 164 00:06:47,439 --> 00:06:52,819 interrupt me is no worries go ahead yes sir I'll turn my 165 00:06:52,819 --> 00:06:55,800 microphone I had a 166 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:00,629 citizen to raise some concerns and I'm sure you can answer 167 00:07:00,629 --> 00:07:03,600 these about the 168 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:09,680 efforts that Denton County Transit Authority is doing to 169 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:10,839 provide service 170 00:07:10,839 --> 00:07:14,259 for other parts of Denton County like Frisco and Flower M 171 00:07:14,259 --> 00:07:16,319 ound and suppose the 172 00:07:16,319 --> 00:07:23,420 colony I don't know and the question was how do you do that 173 00:07:23,420 --> 00:07:25,160 and not 174 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:33,459 divert funds from the three contributing cities sales tax 175 00:07:33,459 --> 00:07:37,240 to to to do that let 176 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,660 me give you an example of how we do that and you know we're 177 00:07:40,660 --> 00:07:41,800 for the last year and 178 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,620 a half we've been providing service in Frisco it's an area 179 00:07:44,620 --> 00:07:45,680 of growth for us in 180 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,879 terms of they wanted to provide elderly and disabled 181 00:07:47,879 --> 00:07:51,319 service so we calculate all 182 00:07:51,319 --> 00:07:53,519 the costs for fuel the vehicle maintenance the driver 183 00:07:53,519 --> 00:07:54,279 everything that 184 00:07:54,279 --> 00:07:59,779 goes into that and they we charge them 20% additional a 20% 185 00:07:59,779 --> 00:08:00,800 surcharge to cover 186 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,160 our overhead costs and so they we also do a taxi voucher 187 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:05,959 not a taxi voucher 188 00:08:05,959 --> 00:08:10,610 program we did dispatch taxis in that's where our dispatch 189 00:08:10,610 --> 00:08:11,920 er actually calls a 190 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,569 taxi or to expand their service without using more of our 191 00:08:16,569 --> 00:08:17,800 vehicles and we do the 192 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,579 same thing we bill them and they pay us bill us every we 193 00:08:22,579 --> 00:08:23,639 bill them every month 194 00:08:23,639 --> 00:08:26,740 and they've been paying the bill so that's how we keep that 195 00:08:26,740 --> 00:08:27,519 right so they're 196 00:08:27,519 --> 00:08:32,179 paying for the actual cost of service plus 20% which it 197 00:08:32,179 --> 00:08:32,679 would be an 198 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,190 administrative fee so that the money that we're paying in 199 00:08:36,190 --> 00:08:37,759 to help cover your 200 00:08:37,759 --> 00:08:40,759 salary and the other salaries of the general staff are 201 00:08:40,759 --> 00:08:42,000 offset somewhat by 202 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,360 yes by that administrative fee that you're charging and 203 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:45,480 then we have and we 204 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,129 do it and we do different areas I mean we have a voucher 205 00:08:48,129 --> 00:08:49,840 program that's very 206 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,759 simple for us to do and it's 5% from McKinney as an example 207 00:08:53,759 --> 00:08:54,559 because in that 208 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:59,210 area it's all we don't dispatch cabs actually the 209 00:08:59,210 --> 00:09:02,440 individual participants do 210 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:07,600 it's all basically we're just flowing a process through the 211 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:08,919 Irving Holdings 212 00:09:08,919 --> 00:09:12,350 Company in terms of providing cab voucher system for their 213 00:09:12,350 --> 00:09:13,320 so we're paying 214 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,509 the directs we're paying a surcharge they are to make that 215 00:09:17,509 --> 00:09:18,559 happen because we 216 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,960 want to stay true you know faithful to our contributing 217 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,240 member cities and how 218 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:28,679 we do that so I think that as we look at some of the things 219 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:29,039 that will be 220 00:09:29,039 --> 00:09:33,190 challenges as we go to the future is when we look at you 221 00:09:33,190 --> 00:09:34,419 know one of the 222 00:09:34,419 --> 00:09:36,639 things that we've got you'll see in the future slide here 223 00:09:36,639 --> 00:09:38,240 as it goes but should 224 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:43,649 we be providing service across 380 right the links Denton 225 00:09:43,649 --> 00:09:45,759 to say McKinney and 226 00:09:45,759 --> 00:09:48,570 prosper how can we tie that together I think there's a very 227 00:09:48,570 --> 00:09:50,759 logical link on 228 00:09:50,759 --> 00:09:58,500 from Lewisville out to the area near 121 in the toll road 229 00:09:58,500 --> 00:09:59,480 and actually out to 230 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,129 McKinney maybe even to prosper they're having trouble 231 00:10:02,129 --> 00:10:04,000 getting people to work 232 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,639 getting employees to come in there struggle is that people 233 00:10:08,639 --> 00:10:09,320 that in the 234 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,600 five billion dollar mile or whatever it is and I forget now 235 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:12,559 how many billions it 236 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,330 is in Frisco the people that if you're the CEO you can you 237 00:10:16,330 --> 00:10:17,440 live down the street 238 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,190 if you're not you're traveling a good distance to get there 239 00:10:21,190 --> 00:10:23,080 and so is there a 240 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,860 way that we could find a way to do commuter bus as an 241 00:10:27,860 --> 00:10:29,559 example that would 242 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,370 link you know I think it was chase JP Morgan Chase that 243 00:10:32,370 --> 00:10:33,399 left Lewisville and 244 00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:38,730 went to Plano legacy area a lot of the folks that you used 245 00:10:38,730 --> 00:10:39,440 to work I think it's 246 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,740 Jason JP Morgan Chase I could be wrong on the name but it 247 00:10:41,740 --> 00:10:42,720 was a large financial 248 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,679 company that left Lewisville those people still live there 249 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:46,440 how are they 250 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,529 gonna get there we've got challenges with Mary Kay Cos 251 00:10:50,529 --> 00:10:51,399 metics move their 252 00:10:51,399 --> 00:10:55,409 their their manufacturing facility from Regal Row up into 253 00:10:55,409 --> 00:10:56,779 near run convergence 254 00:10:56,779 --> 00:11:00,049 in Lewisville not a dent in issue but you know how can we 255 00:11:00,049 --> 00:11:01,100 work with them to 256 00:11:01,100 --> 00:11:05,759 help that happen is that van pools passes I mean we're and 257 00:11:05,759 --> 00:11:06,559 we're being and I 258 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,950 think you can tell by the tenor of what I said about cab 259 00:11:08,950 --> 00:11:10,159 vouchers dispatch cabs 260 00:11:10,159 --> 00:11:13,460 we're using we have a contract with Lyft right now that's 261 00:11:13,460 --> 00:11:14,759 providing service in 262 00:11:14,759 --> 00:11:18,559 Highland Village it's a very low density area just seems 263 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:19,879 that it's actually works 264 00:11:19,879 --> 00:11:24,919 fairly well for us we're we're set now we'll be 265 00:11:24,919 --> 00:11:25,919 implementing the next week or 266 00:11:25,919 --> 00:11:32,279 so using Lyft service for the 2 to 7 a.m. safe ride home 267 00:11:32,279 --> 00:11:33,039 for the University of 268 00:11:33,039 --> 00:11:36,809 North Texas under that contract and so we're trying we're 269 00:11:36,809 --> 00:11:37,720 open to trying 270 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,399 everything and being as innovative as we can be to provide 271 00:11:40,399 --> 00:11:41,200 very efficient 272 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,850 service and address the true need right so instead of 273 00:11:45,850 --> 00:11:46,919 saying kind of the 274 00:11:46,919 --> 00:11:49,559 traditional I don't want to say traditional transit but it 275 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:50,159 's traditional 276 00:11:50,159 --> 00:11:53,379 transit way it goes is I have a solution let me desperately 277 00:11:53,379 --> 00:11:55,080 seek a problem and 278 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,919 I'd like to flip that around and say let me take your 279 00:11:58,919 --> 00:12:00,879 problem and then let me see 280 00:12:00,879 --> 00:12:03,850 if I can find you a good solution so all these things that 281 00:12:03,850 --> 00:12:04,759 we're testing I 282 00:12:04,759 --> 00:12:07,629 believe will have well example is the Lyft will be 283 00:12:07,629 --> 00:12:09,000 operating and Denton will 284 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,360 be for the University but is there something that could 285 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:12,159 happen with that 286 00:12:12,159 --> 00:12:15,960 could we make a better answer or develop a better answer 287 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,679 going forward and so a 288 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,399 lot of opportunity so that's part of what I want the 289 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:23,720 feedback from you guys 290 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:28,360 to be we know we need to make sure we stay true to as I 291 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,759 guess dance with who 292 00:12:30,759 --> 00:12:33,480 brought you so to speak in terms of the communities that 293 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:34,440 are paying the sales 294 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,700 tax and how but how do we add with that context how do we 295 00:12:38,700 --> 00:12:40,480 also maintain our role 296 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,519 as a regional partner and bring in new people into this 297 00:12:44,519 --> 00:12:46,279 into the new services 298 00:12:46,279 --> 00:12:49,600 into the arena because if we can provide opportunities for 299 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:50,559 people in Denton to 300 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,159 get to work somewhere else wow that's a big one that's a 301 00:12:54,159 --> 00:12:56,559 big benefit I think and 302 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:02,460 how can we do that in a way that's fair to the taxpayers in 303 00:13:02,460 --> 00:13:04,559 that so just to 304 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,539 follow up on that so I think what I hear you saying is that 305 00:13:07,539 --> 00:13:08,519 you have the three 306 00:13:08,519 --> 00:13:12,259 member cities and they all pay taxes this didn't Highland 307 00:13:12,259 --> 00:13:13,519 Village in Louisville 308 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:19,340 and so those monies are kind of siloed right yeah we're 309 00:13:19,340 --> 00:13:21,080 very careful when we 310 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,960 provide a service outside our area that we make sure that 311 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,000 those are trapped 312 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:31,230 captured in a separate organization separate org in our 313 00:13:31,230 --> 00:13:33,080 accounting system so 314 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,169 we can track those expenditures and then look at where we 315 00:13:36,169 --> 00:13:37,519 need to you know what 316 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:40,960 makes sense in terms of an administrative fee to bring to 317 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:41,399 again 318 00:13:41,399 --> 00:13:45,480 provide that pay for you know there's a lot of things we do 319 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:46,519 we you know I I 320 00:13:46,519 --> 00:13:48,909 there's one president there's not a president for Frisco 321 00:13:48,909 --> 00:13:49,759 and a president for 322 00:13:49,759 --> 00:13:52,230 McKinney there's but one of us and we're leveraging that 323 00:13:52,230 --> 00:13:53,000 and same with 324 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,970 procurement so how can we do those things fairly inequit 325 00:13:56,970 --> 00:13:58,200 ably to to them as 326 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,850 well as our member cities so we're very careful about that 327 00:14:02,850 --> 00:14:06,139 so I see on the on the 328 00:14:06,139 --> 00:14:08,750 next slide under the financial there's just a general 329 00:14:08,750 --> 00:14:09,960 overall breakdown but 330 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,710 can we go on your website or a taxpayer and see exactly 331 00:14:13,710 --> 00:14:15,320 what each member city 332 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:21,139 contributes and how that is spent probably not that level 333 00:14:21,139 --> 00:14:21,960 of specificity 334 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,769 we do get the way part of it and it's important to keep in 335 00:14:25,769 --> 00:14:27,120 mind that when you 336 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:33,090 look at our overall budget we have I treat the and this is 337 00:14:33,090 --> 00:14:34,279 I hope this 338 00:14:34,279 --> 00:14:36,120 answered your question but Denton Highland village Lewis 339 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:36,759 ville because of 340 00:14:36,759 --> 00:14:39,399 the a train really is it's is a is a business unit unto 341 00:14:39,399 --> 00:14:40,720 itself so we keep 342 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,679 those make sure we track those funds for that project so 343 00:14:44,679 --> 00:14:46,279 allocation between bus 344 00:14:46,279 --> 00:14:50,740 and rail we know what they are how much of that is Denton 345 00:14:50,740 --> 00:14:51,320 so much of that is 346 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,470 Lewisville you know and unfortunate party goes to some 347 00:14:54,470 --> 00:14:55,159 areas that it doesn't 348 00:14:55,159 --> 00:14:59,200 stop right do Corinth and the Lake Cities which would be a 349 00:14:59,200 --> 00:14:59,840 good thing if we 350 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,389 could get that to happen and get them contributing that's 351 00:15:02,389 --> 00:15:03,200 on the plan we want 352 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:08,230 that I think there's a good thing there but we could we 353 00:15:08,230 --> 00:15:09,840 have all the information 354 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,309 we put in our board reports on exactly what the 355 00:15:12,309 --> 00:15:14,080 contributions are from each of 356 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,960 the agencies so I'd be happy to walk you through that we 357 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:17,840 have all that on our 358 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,490 website we have our budget on the website that shows all 359 00:15:20,490 --> 00:15:21,360 these different 360 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,549 units and so and if there's any additional detail you'd 361 00:15:25,549 --> 00:15:26,440 like I'd be 362 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,820 happy to provide that or come with some more detail I didn 363 00:15:28,820 --> 00:15:29,720 't bring a complete 364 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,759 detail breakdown today but we we have our CAFR we have her 365 00:15:33,759 --> 00:15:34,960 all that all of our 366 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,230 information we try to be as transparent as possible you can 367 00:15:38,230 --> 00:15:38,759 look at our check 368 00:15:38,759 --> 00:15:43,029 register too yeah I just wanted to let the people watching 369 00:15:43,029 --> 00:15:43,960 are the people that 370 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,460 do watch that there is a place they can go find that which 371 00:15:46,460 --> 00:15:47,320 is on your website 372 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,919 just because it's not presented here today and if someone 373 00:15:49,919 --> 00:15:50,559 has a question 374 00:15:50,559 --> 00:15:52,610 please call us and we'll be happy to help them walk through 375 00:15:52,610 --> 00:15:53,320 that okay thank 376 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:58,600 you so that's a nice segue into my next slide which is 377 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,960 financial stewardship we 378 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,960 are one of the things we just got our audit report 379 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,360 yesterday from 2017 FY 2017 380 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,450 allocated two hours for the meeting and good news is we 381 00:16:13,450 --> 00:16:15,279 were done it less than 382 00:16:15,279 --> 00:16:20,399 an hour no management comments no issues and was an unmod 383 00:16:20,399 --> 00:16:21,159 ified opinion 384 00:16:21,159 --> 00:16:24,029 leaves the right word now it used to be unqualified the 385 00:16:24,029 --> 00:16:27,039 good one so we've been 386 00:16:27,039 --> 00:16:29,389 taking care of business with your money and I want to make 387 00:16:29,389 --> 00:16:30,320 sure that's that's an 388 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,879 approach we take is it is we do see ourselves we do see our 389 00:16:33,879 --> 00:16:34,440 agency as 390 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:39,080 stewards of the money that is given to us but it is our is 391 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,200 the our community's 392 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,039 money that we're being stewards of not something that we 393 00:16:44,039 --> 00:16:45,360 control we do have 394 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,250 strong reserves this is our FY 18 budget numbers we we 395 00:16:49,250 --> 00:16:50,480 maintain an operating 396 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,360 reserve of 90 days meaning that we could do all of our 397 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:54,860 operating expenses for 90 398 00:16:54,860 --> 00:16:58,879 days if our if we received no additional income which is 399 00:16:58,879 --> 00:17:00,240 not for something we 400 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,419 foresee is thing that would happen really not a rainy day 401 00:17:03,419 --> 00:17:04,380 fund this is the 402 00:17:04,380 --> 00:17:07,930 hurricane fund this is the earthquake fund this is if we 403 00:17:07,930 --> 00:17:09,000 reach true true 404 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,779 problems this gives us that level of comfort knowing that 405 00:17:13,779 --> 00:17:14,319 we can have 406 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:18,119 continuity of operations now on a lesser level we have 3% 407 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:19,480 of our sales tax we set 408 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,779 aside to help buffer any changes one of the things that's 409 00:17:22,779 --> 00:17:24,279 different between DCTA 410 00:17:24,279 --> 00:17:28,930 in a city is that we have no ad valorem taxes so we're 411 00:17:28,930 --> 00:17:30,640 subject to the the vast 412 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,980 majority of our budget is based on sales tax and so we have 413 00:17:34,980 --> 00:17:36,519 to be ready for a dip 414 00:17:36,519 --> 00:17:40,609 in sales tax and so by having we by having this 3% that 415 00:17:40,609 --> 00:17:42,920 gives us a chance to 416 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,319 slowly work into if we have to have a reduction in service 417 00:17:46,319 --> 00:17:47,319 we have to cut that 418 00:17:47,319 --> 00:17:50,519 cost somehow or maybe right out of storm we have a you know 419 00:17:50,519 --> 00:17:51,480 occasionally and you 420 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,319 guys see this in your reports it'll be in a big adjustment 421 00:17:54,319 --> 00:17:55,400 sometimes based on a 422 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,210 boundary issue with another area so we may have a drop in 423 00:17:58,210 --> 00:17:59,119 sales tax in a given 424 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:04,299 month so this helps us get through that fuel yes ma'am so 425 00:18:04,299 --> 00:18:05,400 sorry it might be a 426 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,960 staff question so one when we have like a tax abatement 427 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,319 agreement for economic 428 00:18:10,319 --> 00:18:14,329 development how does that affect our sales tax is going to 429 00:18:14,329 --> 00:18:15,920 DCTA it doesn't 430 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:21,470 have any effect okay it's just it's just a city's portion 431 00:18:21,470 --> 00:18:22,680 of the sales tax not 432 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:28,579 DCTAs okay thanks no no no I want you guys to this is I 433 00:18:28,579 --> 00:18:29,000 want this to be a 434 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,420 discussion not just a me talking to you we also fuels an 435 00:18:32,420 --> 00:18:33,799 area that we've been 436 00:18:33,799 --> 00:18:37,549 very fortunate in in terms of we've been budgeting three 437 00:18:37,549 --> 00:18:38,720 three fifty four dollars 438 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,210 a gallon for fueling in years past and so we've been coming 439 00:18:42,210 --> 00:18:43,119 in at under two 440 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,250 dollars a gallon in some cases we have a partnership with 441 00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:47,559 the city of Denton for 442 00:18:47,559 --> 00:18:51,460 the purchase of fuel for our on-road vehicles and then we 443 00:18:51,460 --> 00:18:52,319 also purchase red 444 00:18:52,319 --> 00:18:54,960 dye diesel for our off-road vehicles which is our trains 445 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,920 but with that we 446 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,269 still have to watch that that is an area where when you buy 447 00:18:59,269 --> 00:19:00,119 eight hundred thousand 448 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,630 gallons of fuel a year a small change in your fuel rate can 449 00:19:03,630 --> 00:19:05,039 be incredibly 450 00:19:05,039 --> 00:19:07,519 impactful to your overall budget so we want to make sure we 451 00:19:07,519 --> 00:19:08,359 've got some money 452 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,690 set aside out there that the board can allocate if we have 453 00:19:11,690 --> 00:19:12,920 an increase in fuel 454 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:20,660 costs a question for you I know that for some time now you 455 00:19:20,660 --> 00:19:21,680 have gone from a 456 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:27,000 larger train set to a smaller train set so that means less 457 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,279 fuel how much less 458 00:19:28,279 --> 00:19:31,210 fuel what percentage we're saving it all in about a half a 459 00:19:31,210 --> 00:19:32,799 million dollars a year 460 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:36,599 we still have the engineer and the conductor on board what 461 00:19:36,599 --> 00:19:37,640 we found with 462 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,680 the conductor and and you'll see that and if you go to 463 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,000 Austin who runs very 464 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,099 similar actually the same trains we do they don't have a 465 00:19:45,099 --> 00:19:46,279 conductor we had we 466 00:19:46,279 --> 00:19:49,000 had a conductor because of the second car to start with 467 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,640 what we found is that 468 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,849 the customer service the order on the trains the lack you 469 00:19:54,849 --> 00:19:55,799 get on our trains we 470 00:19:55,799 --> 00:19:59,160 don't have graffiti minimal amounts of trash good behavior 471 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:00,359 and having that and 472 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,599 just from a customer service standpoint the conductors help 473 00:20:03,599 --> 00:20:05,400 a great deal so in 474 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,029 terms of the crew the crew didn't change but the wear and 475 00:20:08,029 --> 00:20:09,039 tear on the vehicles 476 00:20:09,039 --> 00:20:12,470 and the fuel changed and that's about a half million dollar 477 00:20:12,470 --> 00:20:15,440 a year savings so 478 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,750 yes ma'am you're talking about Austin which reminded me my 479 00:20:19,750 --> 00:20:20,279 understanding is 480 00:20:20,279 --> 00:20:24,690 that there is some movement there to utilize or leverage 481 00:20:24,690 --> 00:20:25,440 the Volkswagen 482 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,660 settlement funds to create an electric bus system or at 483 00:20:28,660 --> 00:20:29,880 least a component of 484 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,289 their bus system being electric is that something that 485 00:20:32,289 --> 00:20:33,559 could be feasible for 486 00:20:33,559 --> 00:20:37,960 Denton it could be I have you know I tell you the trend 487 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:38,519 that we've looked at 488 00:20:38,519 --> 00:20:43,160 in buses in terms of alternate fuels alternate fuels is the 489 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,000 diesel has been 490 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,089 getting better and better and better and a progression that 491 00:20:48,089 --> 00:20:49,319 other agencies have 492 00:20:49,319 --> 00:20:53,970 done has gone to natural gas I've got a couple of concerns 493 00:20:53,970 --> 00:20:54,839 with that one is 494 00:20:54,839 --> 00:20:57,059 we're not quite big enough we're getting close but we're 495 00:20:57,059 --> 00:20:58,039 not quite big enough to 496 00:20:58,039 --> 00:21:01,559 justify the cost of the compression you know the compressor 497 00:21:01,559 --> 00:21:02,400 that has to be 498 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,349 located or fueling facility potential to share facilities 499 00:21:05,349 --> 00:21:06,240 that's an answer 500 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,240 possibly I'm concerned about the noise in the neighborhood 501 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:10,759 where our bus 502 00:21:10,759 --> 00:21:13,880 facility is I don't want to I think making that happen 503 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,720 would be awkward at 504 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:20,230 best so I see the best benefit for the agency is making the 505 00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:21,240 jump from diesel to 506 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:26,019 electric that's the long-term plan what we're watching very 507 00:21:26,019 --> 00:21:26,680 carefully is what's 508 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,759 happening in California California is mandated that all 509 00:21:29,759 --> 00:21:31,039 transit buses have to 510 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:36,269 be electric over the next several years right now electric 511 00:21:36,269 --> 00:21:37,640 bus is about trouble 512 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,759 what a diesel bus cost so you make up a lot of that and 513 00:21:40,759 --> 00:21:42,079 maintenance costs 514 00:21:42,079 --> 00:21:44,220 because you don't have to change the oil it's still got the 515 00:21:44,220 --> 00:21:45,039 same brakes it's 516 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:47,390 still got the same air conditioner but you can save quite a 517 00:21:47,390 --> 00:21:48,039 bit of money on 518 00:21:48,039 --> 00:21:52,930 maintenance but the charging facilities are interesting on 519 00:21:52,930 --> 00:21:53,559 how you have to do 520 00:21:53,559 --> 00:21:55,900 that because you need it right now the technology is you 521 00:21:55,900 --> 00:21:56,759 really have to charge 522 00:21:56,759 --> 00:21:59,880 a midday there are some that can maybe go all day they're 523 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:00,599 getting the battery 524 00:22:00,599 --> 00:22:03,569 technology is getting better and better and with more and 525 00:22:03,569 --> 00:22:04,880 more buses being sold 526 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,039 that are electric we're gonna see the I believe we'll see 527 00:22:08,039 --> 00:22:09,279 the cost go down the 528 00:22:09,279 --> 00:22:12,579 differential between a diesel bus and electric bus getting 529 00:22:12,579 --> 00:22:14,200 much closer so my 530 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,420 my guidance to the staff and what we've developed is that 531 00:22:18,420 --> 00:22:20,380 long-haul making the 532 00:22:20,380 --> 00:22:24,329 move from diesel to electric will make the most sense and 533 00:22:24,329 --> 00:22:25,359 we're open to the 534 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,299 idea of trying that I think we've got it we just have to 535 00:22:28,299 --> 00:22:29,140 weigh getting our 536 00:22:29,140 --> 00:22:32,309 mechanic skill set right getting enough critical mass in 537 00:22:32,309 --> 00:22:33,480 terms of the buses to 538 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,319 where it makes sense so I hope that was it I told you how 539 00:22:37,319 --> 00:22:38,000 to make a watch when I 540 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,650 should have said yes but anyway that's where we are a 541 00:22:42,650 --> 00:22:44,960 couple other things just 542 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,809 internal coverage ratio that's our that's our amount of 543 00:22:47,809 --> 00:22:48,759 money at the end of 544 00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:51,369 the month we have left over to pay our debt so we're at two 545 00:22:51,369 --> 00:22:52,400 and a half almost 546 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,700 two and a half times what that you know when we we don't 547 00:22:54,700 --> 00:22:55,640 run out of month for 548 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,700 running money we're good on that and then solid cash flow 549 00:22:58,700 --> 00:22:59,559 model I've already 550 00:22:59,559 --> 00:23:01,819 talked to you about audits I'm sure you all see the same 551 00:23:01,819 --> 00:23:02,759 thing with the GFA 552 00:23:02,759 --> 00:23:05,049 awards we've been consistent in that for the last several 553 00:23:05,049 --> 00:23:06,200 years and the 554 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,680 procurement award to of excellence in 2016 we're pursuing 555 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,799 that further now this 556 00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:15,839 gets into some of the cost size cost savings opportunities 557 00:23:15,839 --> 00:23:17,079 we are looking at 558 00:23:17,079 --> 00:23:20,880 right sizing our bus fleet we have we're running all big 559 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:21,960 buses in Denton we may 560 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,799 we're gonna dial some of those back to medium-sized buses 561 00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:25,880 that'll be more 562 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,579 efficient with fuel cost of buses and from a city 563 00:23:28,579 --> 00:23:30,079 perspective lighter 564 00:23:30,079 --> 00:23:33,109 vehicles that will put less wear and tear on your roads now 565 00:23:33,109 --> 00:23:33,819 we need the 566 00:23:33,819 --> 00:23:37,630 bigger buses up to TW up to Denton that's five six seven 567 00:23:37,630 --> 00:23:39,079 and eight routes 568 00:23:39,079 --> 00:23:42,549 five six and seven and eight and so we're making that 569 00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:44,019 happen we've done some 570 00:23:44,019 --> 00:23:47,400 modifications to our to our routes in fact done some as 571 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,480 recently as yesterday 572 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,789 one of the things just a small thing but we've consolidated 573 00:23:52,789 --> 00:23:53,799 all of our electric 574 00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:57,569 providers outside of the Denton municipal electric so we 575 00:23:57,569 --> 00:23:58,680 can have greater 576 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:03,599 bidding power on that so that's a positive thing and you've 577 00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:05,599 seen yes ma'am 578 00:24:05,599 --> 00:24:10,259 on the right sizing of buses you said smaller buses does 579 00:24:10,259 --> 00:24:13,200 that mean shorter or 580 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,140 not as wide I mean I'm just curious because you know 581 00:24:16,140 --> 00:24:17,640 generally it's gonna be 582 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,339 a little bit of both and it will you know we run the full- 583 00:24:20,339 --> 00:24:21,319 size transit buses 584 00:24:21,319 --> 00:24:23,680 right now so we'd want to probably look at something a 585 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,079 little bit shorter not 586 00:24:26,079 --> 00:24:29,569 the full you know not the not the very small buses that we 587 00:24:29,569 --> 00:24:30,799 run sometimes for 588 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:35,450 like the ADA service but a medium-size it's kind of halfway 589 00:24:35,450 --> 00:24:37,640 in between because 590 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,170 we we don't run if we're running to the university where 591 00:24:40,170 --> 00:24:41,200 those buses are full a 592 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:46,269 lot of the time or and but in some of the areas routes four 593 00:24:46,269 --> 00:24:47,920 one two and three 594 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,079 when we aren't quite as full it doesn't make a lot of 595 00:24:51,079 --> 00:24:52,960 consistently on some of 596 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,390 those routes are not utilizing the capacity of that big bus 597 00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:57,000 it's a big 598 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,039 cost to it's a big cost to you to run those buses right I'm 599 00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:01,960 also thinking that 600 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,170 we have several streets in Denton that are smaller streets 601 00:25:05,170 --> 00:25:06,039 which make the 602 00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:08,519 bigger buses more difficult especially when there's cars 603 00:25:08,519 --> 00:25:10,079 parked on the road and 604 00:25:10,079 --> 00:25:14,930 cyclists so getting everybody on the street safely is a 605 00:25:14,930 --> 00:25:16,440 concern so this is 606 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,250 interesting thank you well and having been a public works 607 00:25:19,250 --> 00:25:20,319 director in the past 608 00:25:20,319 --> 00:25:23,839 in my previous engagement with the city of Irving the the 609 00:25:23,839 --> 00:25:25,400 heavy vehicles in the 610 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,150 right lane puts a lot of damp mean it is a an impact to 611 00:25:28,150 --> 00:25:29,599 streets I mean that's just 612 00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:33,400 where we have trucks large trucks buses so if we can light 613 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,279 en that load that helps 614 00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:39,269 reduce cost to the community as well we did get a lot of 615 00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:41,319 federal funding oh I'm 616 00:25:41,319 --> 00:25:43,799 sorry positive train control which we're moving forward on 617 00:25:43,799 --> 00:25:44,839 that's that's happening 618 00:25:44,839 --> 00:25:47,420 we did save a lot of money by going with the different 619 00:25:47,420 --> 00:25:49,039 technology same with rail 620 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:52,059 ops we rebid our we sent out for procurement our rail 621 00:25:52,059 --> 00:25:54,920 operations and saved 622 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,029 amount of me in a year a little over a million dollars a 623 00:25:57,029 --> 00:25:57,799 year with the new 624 00:25:57,799 --> 00:26:00,650 procurement and we're always in the pursuit of other people 625 00:26:00,650 --> 00:26:01,119 's money 626 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,890 particularly the federal government and for trails positive 627 00:26:04,890 --> 00:26:05,640 train control 628 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,390 transportation development credits which are credits for 629 00:26:09,390 --> 00:26:11,079 tolls paid we get it's a 630 00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:12,950 long story kind of a roundabout way but it keeps us from 631 00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:13,839 having to pay matching 632 00:26:13,839 --> 00:26:18,039 funds and we did get the bus maintenance facility paid for 633 00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:19,400 80% so we're the city 634 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,039 of her in the city of Denton we might just talk a little 635 00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:22,599 bit more about 636 00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:27,250 positive train controls in the news last month that the 637 00:26:27,250 --> 00:26:28,640 train in the so 638 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:36,279 Washington Washington so very short answer to what is the 639 00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:36,759 purpose of 640 00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:40,059 positive train control positive train control provides a 641 00:26:40,059 --> 00:26:41,720 that will stop the 642 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,359 train outside the control the engineer if one of four 643 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,960 things happens this 644 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,609 overspeed it's incurring into a temporary speed restriction 645 00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:51,359 like a for a 646 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:56,690 great crossings out that's this out of operation it will 647 00:26:56,690 --> 00:26:57,680 stop a train if it 648 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,460 violates a work zone and we'll stop the train if it viol 649 00:27:02,460 --> 00:27:03,960 ates if it if a switch 650 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,380 is misaligned so you have a train that's coming at 60 that 651 00:27:07,380 --> 00:27:09,000 hits a quick switch 652 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,440 that can cause a derailment and so those are the things 653 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,799 that are out there now 654 00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:17,039 the agencies that have to operate on the general rail 655 00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:18,440 system have to also be 656 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,710 interoperable meaning they have to be able to any railroad 657 00:27:21,710 --> 00:27:23,079 can come in and use 658 00:27:23,079 --> 00:27:25,890 the system we're somewhat on an island that's one of the 659 00:27:25,890 --> 00:27:26,720 reasons why the 660 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,369 alternate technology work part of it is is if it's the 661 00:27:31,369 --> 00:27:32,680 person driving the train 662 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,140 I don't know what you call that person engineer is not 663 00:27:36,140 --> 00:27:38,799 paying attention and for 664 00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:41,960 whatever reason if and you've seen a lot of them where the 665 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,839 reports are right that 666 00:27:43,839 --> 00:27:46,519 the engineers have lost situational awareness and they've 667 00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:47,279 lost where they 668 00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:50,339 are because you know I mean if you make the bold presum 669 00:27:50,339 --> 00:27:51,200 ption that the engineer 670 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,140 has the same will to survive as the passengers do you know 671 00:27:55,140 --> 00:27:55,880 when they that 672 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,410 one particular incident as reported hit a we're going 673 00:27:58,410 --> 00:28:00,000 basically about 80 miles an 674 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,599 hour and hit a point appropriately to go 80 and then didn't 675 00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:04,200 slow down when they 676 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,380 got to the point where it should have been going 30 now on 677 00:28:06,380 --> 00:28:08,119 our tracks we've 678 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,160 basically got a straight track from one end to the other 679 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,039 there are a few curves 680 00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:15,690 and we run at a maximum speed of 60 so our train we think 681 00:28:15,690 --> 00:28:16,920 that's a fairly 682 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,960 de minimis risk for us but our PTC system will enforce all 683 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:21,640 of those things 684 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:26,289 that it said well you also have on the trains I saw this 685 00:28:26,289 --> 00:28:28,160 when we did a field 686 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:34,480 trip out there the engineer every 30 seconds has to and 687 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,720 they are a case I 688 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,700 think it notifies the dispatcher and then they go stop and 689 00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:42,079 pricing how we can 690 00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:44,890 do thing because you know during the construction it hurt 691 00:28:44,890 --> 00:28:45,440 and be very 692 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,430 specific about that almost 500 riders that showed a 693 00:28:48,430 --> 00:28:50,839 positive thing so on the 694 00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:54,430 table for discussion I think we need to look at a dramatic 695 00:28:54,430 --> 00:28:55,799 too also is what are 696 00:28:55,799 --> 00:29:00,480 we trying to do in terms of how do we get the best bang for 697 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,519 a buck sure you 698 00:29:01,519 --> 00:29:04,930 know and I'd be honest the best riders for us are 250 days 699 00:29:04,930 --> 00:29:06,359 a year rock workers 700 00:29:06,359 --> 00:29:11,140 or students coming in those weekdays every every day every 701 00:29:11,140 --> 00:29:12,640 week or three days 702 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,099 a week those are the ones that actually the backbone of a 703 00:29:15,099 --> 00:29:16,799 ridership yes well 704 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:21,440 speaking of students and it's jumping down on your list 705 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,720 with NCTC planning to 706 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,119 have a downtown campus by those are areas where we saw 707 00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:31,240 where is that just 708 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,210 that get on a train or a bus now if they ride now it's not 709 00:29:35,210 --> 00:29:36,720 linked trips meaning 710 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,369 that if you ride the train and then you ride a bus that 711 00:29:40,369 --> 00:29:41,519 would be separate 712 00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:45,259 boardings that's how we do the numbers okay so one to your 713 00:29:45,259 --> 00:29:46,880 that other and it 714 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,119 has we wanted to go through and say gosh what are the 715 00:29:50,119 --> 00:29:51,400 benefit at all of these 716 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,029 things and what's happens make a big difference even people 717 00:29:54,029 --> 00:29:54,880 did this says 718 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,950 Lake City's completion or final throws of that right now 719 00:29:57,950 --> 00:29:59,119 that was it should be 720 00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:02,579 we're going out to bid short the county so I think there's 721 00:30:02,579 --> 00:30:03,920 two pieces to go with 722 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:09,289 that one DW that's a very logical route I mean things in 723 00:30:09,289 --> 00:30:11,440 Austin where they had 724 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,079 you know torn up and and I know y'all are you know the the 725 00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:16,400 v-ride bikes and all 726 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,000 them but if we had bikes that were say Dalton's bike that 727 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,359 wanted to leave his 728 00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:24,559 bike overnight about how do we facilitate bike training 729 00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:25,160 that we already 730 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:30,329 have so future I'm just gonna keep up with that I tend to I 731 00:30:30,329 --> 00:30:31,440 mean having 732 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,039 having been ability and then that nuts to me is a natural 733 00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:35,000 low income what we 734 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,650 typically do is we bore those to sell passes at a very 735 00:30:38,650 --> 00:30:40,319 reduced rate they may 736 00:30:40,319 --> 00:30:42,380 then choose to give those to people or sell them and then 737 00:30:42,380 --> 00:30:43,119 they sell them at a 738 00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:47,130 further discount right now well in a I guess on the 25th 739 00:30:47,130 --> 00:30:48,200 there's a point in time 740 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,789 that's it thank you so much for thank you and discuss 741 00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:51,880 meeting times and dates 742 00:30:51,880 --> 00:31:01,220 for future was was held of recent those meetings of back I 743 00:31:01,220 --> 00:31:04,160 mean maya culpa it's 744 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,900 me I don't want meetings on Tuesdays it's better to have a 745 00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:09,880 back-to-back meeting 746 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,660 so I someone to handle my kids for a certain day instead of 747 00:31:14,660 --> 00:31:15,480 having something 748 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,230 every single day but I'm okay with not having them on 749 00:31:19,230 --> 00:31:20,200 Tuesdays what I would 750 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,609 like for you guys to consider is that there's economic 751 00:31:23,609 --> 00:31:26,440 development there's out 752 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,240 of you definitely can't eating for economic development or 753 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:30,799 be blocked off 754 00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:36,700 on my schedule as me our Tuesdays were just just thing that 755 00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:37,400 made for long days 756 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,410 but but but that's why we ended up with them you know you 757 00:31:41,410 --> 00:31:42,680 need to get set that 758 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,460 yeah I think I've told you when I can't come with with with 759 00:31:47,460 --> 00:31:48,720 schedule or some of 760 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,019 the other committees is those meetings end up getting moved 761 00:31:52,019 --> 00:31:52,880 over to set date 762 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,470 and then and then something happens in the second Wednesday 763 00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:57,640 of the month which 764 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,710 is one of the Wednesdays you were out so we're all here on 765 00:32:00,710 --> 00:32:01,920 the third Wednesday of 766 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:13,359 the month it appears open it also provides in the past to 767 00:32:13,359 --> 00:32:14,440 do an RTC and 768 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:20,339 with Commissioner Mitchell on those staff direction to 769 00:32:20,339 --> 00:32:22,000 frame if it works 770 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:28,289 maybe okay so I think that's it for agenda the third 771 00:32:28,289 --> 00:32:30,119 Wednesday at 1130 or 772 00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:34,769 noon meetings until May then we're gonna go back up to the 773 00:32:34,769 --> 00:32:35,359 discussion and provide 774 00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:38,660 direction regarding Texas Department of Transportation 775 00:32:38,660 --> 00:32:39,920 include the 35 Express 776 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,069 project and I believe mr. Polster will be doing that that's 777 00:32:43,069 --> 00:32:43,579 correct just madam 778 00:32:43,579 --> 00:32:45,680 sure what and we'll probably move through this a little bit 779 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,480 quickly based 780 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,289 on the fact that we we heard quite a bit of about some of 781 00:32:49,289 --> 00:32:50,160 the transportation 782 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:56,509 product I'd have to go up to the podium is it the handout 783 00:32:56,509 --> 00:32:58,000 from yesterday 784 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:15,819 I think most of y'all remembered a lot of what we covered 785 00:33:15,819 --> 00:33:16,720 yesterday but this is a 786 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:21,950 project that starts we're the 2499 hang on are we just 787 00:33:21,950 --> 00:33:23,160 going over what we went 788 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:31,460 over yesterday essentially well John's here and he blazer 789 00:33:31,460 --> 00:33:32,759 and hat what he was 790 00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:35,569 gonna do is hit these first three very quickly and then 791 00:33:35,569 --> 00:33:36,400 roll on to the back 792 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,490 side of the report which okay so on 2181 the north-south 793 00:33:40,490 --> 00:33:41,880 segment project this is 794 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,779 the project that is being done by MCM the main issue I 795 00:33:45,779 --> 00:33:47,440 wanted to point out is 796 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,880 that it has a construction time frame between now and 797 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,799 January 2020 phases of 798 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:55,490 the project there will be that they can really give you a 799 00:33:55,490 --> 00:33:57,200 notice on because they 800 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,720 do it up and down the group clearing the drainage areas and 801 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,400 the and beginning 802 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,559 substructure improvement so the main some impacts to 803 00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:07,240 traffic foreseeable future 804 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,059 with the one traffic one lane going for both directions 805 00:34:11,059 --> 00:34:12,800 using flaggers that's 806 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,110 the main point on that one three studies yesterday this 807 00:34:15,110 --> 00:34:16,840 project is going to be 808 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,579 ready to let by Malibu have the exhibit a executed road 809 00:34:20,579 --> 00:34:22,519 with a may let day and 810 00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:26,150 once we get that project let we'll have the number of days 811 00:34:26,150 --> 00:34:27,400 in the contract that 812 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,789 the contractor bid we'll be able to tell you what the 813 00:34:29,789 --> 00:34:31,360 contract completion date is 814 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,309 the item and the rest of them have been really Pacific Rail 815 00:34:35,309 --> 00:34:36,880 road to let it that's 816 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,659 a sense of what this sheet says is on the utilities 2199 817 00:34:41,659 --> 00:34:43,599 section 5 this road 818 00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:46,800 is partially open except for in and around Robinson Road 819 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,639 the Stots 820 00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:53,280 contractors subcontinent to install the signal so we went 821 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,920 with another firm that 822 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,889 the city uses regularly as well and we're anticipating them 823 00:34:58,889 --> 00:34:59,960 being out there 824 00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:02,909 and having the signal installed within 30 days so it hits 825 00:35:02,909 --> 00:35:03,960 that February time 826 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,860 frame these are the ultimate improvements LTR Campbell will 827 00:35:08,860 --> 00:35:08,960 be 828 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,960 removing David Lavelle off the report he's no longer 1c on 829 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,480 our project that 830 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:21,260 the schedule the time frame on this project and right away 831 00:35:21,260 --> 00:35:22,639 is not necessary 832 00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:26,090 because we're making improvements within our utilities 833 00:35:26,090 --> 00:35:28,219 should be minimal given 834 00:35:28,219 --> 00:35:30,679 that everything's out there's been torn up over the last 835 00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:31,960 three years so we think 836 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,739 that once we get LTR a on contract top fairly quickly and 837 00:35:36,739 --> 00:35:37,840 have these 838 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,590 improvements on the ground sooner than one would normally 839 00:35:41,590 --> 00:35:42,880 think it on the 840 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:48,380 issues with where I'm reporting December to January is what 841 00:35:48,380 --> 00:35:49,320 OHL is saying they're 842 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,559 gonna do but Texas not accepting that schedule so I mean 843 00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:54,239 because even if we 844 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,579 don't I December I think we can have done by August of 2018 845 00:35:57,579 --> 00:35:58,440 because they were 846 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,719 gonna want to try to be open that fall of 2018 so they're 847 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,079 open and we're not 848 00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:07,150 completely not unusual or unaware of because we did the 849 00:36:07,150 --> 00:36:08,239 same thing at the 850 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,320 one the 114 and when they're supposed to open yet I mean I 851 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:12,960 've seen signs that 852 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:19,440 say 2019 but do we have any idea when we were doing the 853 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,480 negotiations Jill we were 854 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,389 given was we needed to have our our improvements done 855 00:36:24,389 --> 00:36:25,639 sometime in the summer 856 00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:29,449 of 2018 because that's when they 2019 they may be hedging 857 00:36:29,449 --> 00:36:31,239 their bets but but I 858 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,300 can't because I'm actually working with them on an honest 859 00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:34,280 job I'll be seeing 860 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,230 them tomorrow I can ask that yeah I think there's a lot of 861 00:36:37,230 --> 00:36:38,239 interest in if 862 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,119 that roads gonna be finished or what the overlap might be 863 00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:48,199 yes there is and so 864 00:36:48,199 --> 00:36:51,559 with this project yesterday mark of very eloquently went 865 00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:52,920 over all the up and down 866 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,409 the corridor issues with your secondary streets that are 867 00:36:55,409 --> 00:36:57,079 going to be stuff that 868 00:36:57,079 --> 00:36:59,900 they have to we have to maintain and pay attention to so 869 00:36:59,900 --> 00:37:01,880 this is a 35 project 870 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,030 from 380 north to the county line this is a project we are 871 00:37:06,030 --> 00:37:07,480 almost done with the 872 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,949 value engineering and once we get through the value 873 00:37:09,949 --> 00:37:12,599 engineering then the 874 00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:17,599 district will basically meet with the division headquarters 875 00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:18,599 folks about 876 00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:22,590 looking at the timing for funding this project and it is 877 00:37:22,590 --> 00:37:25,760 currently estimated 878 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,730 it's just about 860 million bucks that's not a lot we can 879 00:37:29,730 --> 00:37:30,760 that's a rounding 880 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,309 area for those guys in Austin we can work that out so once 881 00:37:34,309 --> 00:37:35,679 we get the value 882 00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:38,989 engineering done the critical path item on this project 883 00:37:38,989 --> 00:37:39,960 right now on the 884 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:45,349 schedule is the environmental clearance for for the end of 885 00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:46,440 this year and we're 886 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,360 on track for that if we get the value engineering done once 887 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:49,760 we get the 888 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,300 environmental clearance done then it allows us to begin the 889 00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:54,000 right away 890 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,650 acquisition and those funds are paid for out of a different 891 00:37:58,650 --> 00:37:59,360 bucket than the 892 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,199 construction dollar so they can go ahead and start 893 00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:02,360 acquiring the right away in 894 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,659 that corridor so you'll start to see this project schedule 895 00:38:05,659 --> 00:38:06,840 mature fairly 896 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:11,059 quickly after the December 2018 environmental clearance 897 00:38:11,059 --> 00:38:12,800 date so in town 898 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,190 you know it I just left it in there they're doing punch 899 00:38:15,190 --> 00:38:16,320 list items TDLR but 900 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,090 it's completed and open to traffic you will not see this in 901 00:38:20,090 --> 00:38:21,199 your report next 902 00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:26,260 month because we take them out once we're done 288 this is 903 00:38:26,260 --> 00:38:27,239 a project that 904 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,960 Miss Briggs was talking about this is a project that's 905 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,199 basically going to be a 906 00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:35,849 maintenance job and Tina's telling us that during the 907 00:38:35,849 --> 00:38:37,519 summer when it's warmer 908 00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:39,989 she'll come back in and do these improvements and they'll 909 00:38:39,989 --> 00:38:40,639 do she's going 910 00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:44,039 to do them to the inside so it won't require any additional 911 00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:44,639 work for the 912 00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:50,460 drainage it's on the outside of 288 there at 380 so we 913 00:38:50,460 --> 00:38:51,159 should start to see 914 00:38:51,159 --> 00:38:54,280 something happen on this project during this summer time 915 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,960 frame just do maintenance 916 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,530 work just for clarification for those who are participating 917 00:39:00,530 --> 00:39:01,760 via video confer 918 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,159 video Tina is Tina Massey the area engineer here and the 919 00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:06,920 Denton office 920 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,659 okay and just to confirm there's going to be a separate 921 00:39:10,659 --> 00:39:13,320 right-hand lane in that 922 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,730 area what's happening is the traffic coming on right that 923 00:39:15,730 --> 00:39:16,800 lane is actually 924 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,409 we're gonna do if you look at it on the inside where we can 925 00:39:19,409 --> 00:39:20,199 come in and add 926 00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:24,159 another lane a u-turn left so you had because it's very low 927 00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:25,719 volume u-turn 928 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,519 movement there literally go through because there's no 929 00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:31,360 point right can you 930 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,000 not going back on the highway unless you got lost but you 931 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,800 still have to have okay 932 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,760 just getting confirmation for that right turn lane again 933 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,000 yes that's the whole 934 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:45,920 point these project this is a project that's a basically 935 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,760 trail into the green 936 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,300 belt it's done and they've got two firms doing should be 937 00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:52,440 done sometime in the 938 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:57,079 spring for the plans as those plans come together we we 939 00:39:57,079 --> 00:39:58,880 bring those to the city 940 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,559 engineers and let them review make sure that it's 941 00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:03,000 consistent with what they have 942 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:11,190 Oh Teal and like it's a super Street well you heard it here 943 00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:13,280 first that's what I 944 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,679 usually tell people when we're doing a project in the 945 00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:17,000 current document which is 946 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,059 expedite the environmental clearance so we should have this 947 00:40:20,059 --> 00:40:21,480 project schematic 948 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,280 approved and once the environmental document is cleared 949 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,599 elements can be 950 00:40:26,599 --> 00:40:30,519 moved up 2045 plans update and with text that the county 951 00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:31,519 originally and text that 952 00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:35,039 said look you keep your powder dry we'll pick them up to do 953 00:40:35,039 --> 00:40:36,559 so we have to wait 954 00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:42,090 again till the mobility 2045 plan is a firm for a project 955 00:40:42,090 --> 00:40:43,019 that's not in the 956 00:40:43,019 --> 00:40:47,800 plan and it will be in the plan this summer so again again 957 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,320 on 288 I do that 958 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:59,019 the environment is done on that it is not okay we have what 959 00:40:59,019 --> 00:41:00,360 we call a locally 960 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,320 and technically preferred alternative what the city wants 961 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,519 what our mental 962 00:41:04,519 --> 00:41:07,460 process and we were starting about four months ago from the 963 00:41:07,460 --> 00:41:08,320 county stand to 964 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,789 spend the money on environmental let them do it and 15 I'm 965 00:41:12,789 --> 00:41:13,360 not sure exactly 966 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:22,369 why is there's two maps and I am technically I'm wording 967 00:41:22,369 --> 00:41:23,039 underneath it 968 00:41:23,039 --> 00:41:27,360 says that we've got LTR it's the timing on 15 so we just 969 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,119 got them on contract 970 00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:33,900 this past commission's us a fee they've already submitted 971 00:41:33,900 --> 00:41:35,119 some fee we got them on 972 00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:38,920 contract we're gonna go meet with text dot part of February 973 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:39,400 and get the time 974 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:44,590 schedule again primarily y'all y'all will be the driver on 975 00:41:44,590 --> 00:41:47,159 what it is 1515 976 00:41:47,159 --> 00:41:51,010 but it's for the businesses out there getting we feel need 977 00:41:51,010 --> 00:41:52,119 so we are way of 978 00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:54,469 issue for the city is to make sure that why doesn't shut 979 00:41:54,469 --> 00:41:55,599 some of these guys down 980 00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:59,000 during their shift changes so that'll be like a zing of the 981 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,000 project to keep 982 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,679 changes in mind 983 00:42:03,159 --> 00:42:07,809 there are improvements that are on 1830 this is up text 984 00:42:07,809 --> 00:42:09,800 that also will start to segment 985 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,000 out room and on 1830 where they're going to be coming 986 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,719 making into a slash rural 987 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,309 is a unique animal in some areas dance although the traffic 988 00:42:19,309 --> 00:42:20,320 warrants a raised 989 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,389 median the time 1830 are more rural in nature and so we're 990 00:42:24,389 --> 00:42:25,400 either looking at 991 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,730 areas that will have a contract on engineering contract 992 00:42:28,730 --> 00:42:29,860 will work with the 993 00:42:29,860 --> 00:42:33,389 city on what segments of that project or what type of 994 00:42:33,389 --> 00:42:35,079 crossing over to e which is 995 00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:39,010 the last item staff reports we have a memo for bike share 996 00:42:39,010 --> 00:42:40,840 permit Texas trails 997 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,809 and active transportation see a permit policy as it relates 998 00:42:43,809 --> 00:42:45,000 to dockless bike 999 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,480 shares in fact here momentarily also wanted to bring your 1000 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,480 attention to the 1001 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,000 Texas trails and active active transportation conference 1002 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:53,679 that'll be 1003 00:42:53,679 --> 00:42:59,150 down on the UT campus I'm sorry May 2nd through I've gone 1004 00:42:59,150 --> 00:42:59,800 ahead and reserved 1005 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:05,199 to ensure that we have represent we're determining which 1006 00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:06,400 which of the 1007 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,309 engineers will go I assume that I'll probably go and then 1008 00:43:09,309 --> 00:43:10,199 we can also read 1009 00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:14,219 all of them have been on but since bidding fine to do it 1010 00:43:14,219 --> 00:43:15,320 probably isn't 1011 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:20,769 worthy for me to go it could very well be that other folks 1012 00:43:20,769 --> 00:43:21,679 also right so we'll 1013 00:43:21,679 --> 00:43:25,210 keep those hotel reservations open until keep you updated 1014 00:43:25,210 --> 00:43:26,159 as to who will be 1015 00:43:26,159 --> 00:43:28,860 attending that particular conference but it's been it's 1016 00:43:28,860 --> 00:43:30,000 been a positive conference 1017 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,650 that we've attended I know city staff has attended the 16 1018 00:43:34,650 --> 00:43:36,280 event in Houston and 1019 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,039 the 14 event in full 1020 00:43:46,159 --> 00:43:51,360 sorry I wasn't on mic question of clarification regarding 1021 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:51,920 councilwoman 1022 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,519 Briggs request for a left turn discussion on left turn off 1023 00:43:55,519 --> 00:43:56,440 old 18 did 1024 00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,190 we already get that we were gonna do a verbal here at this 1025 00:44:00,190 --> 00:44:00,880 particular meeting 1026 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:07,380 okay and so yeah the reason it's a verbal it was on one of 1027 00:44:07,380 --> 00:44:09,239 the projects on 1028 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,969 the small project list that was approved by council for 1029 00:44:12,969 --> 00:44:15,280 funding so this the RFQ 1030 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,289 is out we're in the process of selecting design consultant 1031 00:44:19,289 --> 00:44:21,440 for one of this part 1032 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,800 of the six projects so this will be designed and 1033 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,079 constructed this year I 1034 00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:28,320 think yeah you addressed that with a small quick projects 1035 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,760 presentation okay I 1036 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:40,400 think that's it question about we late those come through 1037 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:41,480 the mobility 1038 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,250 committee before they go to council did that one come 1039 00:44:45,250 --> 00:44:46,599 through us before we 1040 00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:51,900 changed we passed something last weekend on the consent 1041 00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:53,360 agenda councilmember 1042 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,519 typically those will go through the traffic safety 1043 00:44:55,519 --> 00:44:57,280 Commission okay and then 1044 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,159 they'll make a recommendation to committee of the whole and 1045 00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:00,719 I believe 1046 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,170 that anyhow there was a question about about that a speed 1047 00:45:04,170 --> 00:45:05,280 limits were maybe too 1048 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:12,380 high and I've sent I answered her but it may be appropriate 1049 00:45:12,380 --> 00:45:13,760 tentatively to just 1050 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:20,860 put an explanation on our next agenda how the steps that 1051 00:45:20,860 --> 00:45:22,599 happen to in process 1052 00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:26,820 and the rules at the state level that that sort of direct 1053 00:45:26,820 --> 00:45:28,199 that but she also 1054 00:45:28,199 --> 00:45:32,849 raised the concern that there is a school located at the 1055 00:45:32,849 --> 00:45:33,679 corner of 1056 00:45:33,679 --> 00:45:40,130 Nottingham and University Drive Calvary Calvary Christian 1057 00:45:40,130 --> 00:45:41,280 Academy and we've 1058 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:47,179 actually passed a rezoning for that for that location so it 1059 00:45:47,179 --> 00:45:48,639 's it's an official 1060 00:45:48,639 --> 00:45:54,539 school location and I don't know that they've requested a 1061 00:45:54,539 --> 00:45:55,760 school zone I don't 1062 00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:01,579 know that it's needed but I'm very curious about if there's 1063 00:46:01,579 --> 00:46:02,199 a school there 1064 00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:05,159 do they even have to request it or is that an automatic 1065 00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:07,199 trigger for some other 1066 00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:13,500 type of speed limit in that area so if y'all would check 1067 00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:14,679 into that and make 1068 00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:17,559 that part of the report very well we can do that the the 1069 00:46:17,559 --> 00:46:18,559 other thing is 1070 00:46:18,559 --> 00:46:23,650 regarding the May 2nd through 4th Texas Trails and 1071 00:46:23,650 --> 00:46:26,280 Transportation Conference I'm 1072 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,119 just wondering if we think we're gonna have a bike 1073 00:46:28,119 --> 00:46:29,119 coordinator hired by that 1074 00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:32,360 time so that that person could attend the conference do we 1075 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,639 know what the time 1076 00:46:33,639 --> 00:46:37,639 frame is for that I don't have a specific time frame for 1077 00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:39,639 that but but I 1078 00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:43,079 think that would be our hope is to have somebody on board 1079 00:46:43,079 --> 00:46:44,480 it's January in place 1080 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,349 that's four months away so we certainly should have 1081 00:46:48,349 --> 00:46:49,079 somebody on board by then 1082 00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:58,420 okay okay I think that's it just well if with the traffic 1083 00:46:58,420 --> 00:46:58,800 calming art 1084 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,800 presentation next week if we can be sure to include funding 1085 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,039 options very well 1086 00:47:04,039 --> 00:47:08,510 okay no new business besides what you brought up okay that 1087 00:47:08,510 --> 00:47:09,960 will conclude this 1088 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:18,639 meeting and we are adjourned at 1259