Mar 21, 2017 City Council on 2017-03-21 5:00 PM
March 21, 2017 City Council
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Welcome to meeting of the Denton City Council here on March
21st.
You're stuck with me today.
The mayor is traveling overseas in London visiting family.
The first item is citizen comments on consent agenda items
and we have one card.
Mr. Willie Hutspeth, all dressed up for us today.
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Which one?
Mayor Crotty and City Council members, my name is Willie H
utspeth, I live at 623 Newton.
Thank you for providing a seat for me to sit in rather than
the floor at this time.
The consent agenda item that I want to talk about, there's
several, but just as an example,
whoever there is a consideration of letting a bid out, I
want to express my objections to that
if minority contractors were not considered in these areas.
So I realize that I'm saying that and you're just waiting
until my three minutes is up.
You're going to continue with business as usual and you're
not going to do anything about it.
But I'm going to keep saying.
Another one is the firefighters, Sarah.
I just want you to answer the question.
Answer it in your minds, why aren't there firefighters in
this city?
Except one.
We've had, this city has been incorporated for years and we
've had firefighters for years.
Why aren't there African American firefighters?
You answer that yourself without me being so negative with
what I'm thinking the reason for that is.
Keely asked for some information about it.
I'll be talking about that in the city council meeting
tonight.
Quit giving out information that is not accurate and up to
date.
She specifically asked, what did I, for the things that I
was asking about.
This is what frustrates citizens about count government.
When you hide things, not hide.
When you present it in a way that it doesn't seem like it's
truthful, just tell us.
Now you're probably going to get sued if it's because of
the color of their skin, but that's okay.
You've got billions of dollars to waste.
But there is a reason why there are no African American
firefighters.
I just feel sorry for the ones who they're going to
eventually hire if they ever do.
And because now he's got to go in the barracks where he's
with people who for years have been segregated.
I don't even like my church because there's no white people
in it.
What is wrong with us?
I went to Denton Bible the other day and I was the only
black person in there in that section that I went to.
We got to stop that.
My grandkids don't get it.
They think that we're all okay.
They just love everybody.
They've been raised the wrong way.
They just love everybody.
But boy, I tell you, we are just separated.
We just separate everything.
This is the colored section right over here.
Thank you, Mr. Hudspeth.
Next item on our agenda is request for clarification of
agenda items listed on the agenda for March 21st, 2017.
Councilmember Briggs.
So L, letter L, it's about the Magnolia Drainage Project.
And I just want confirmation that this is one of the first
steps, the things that need to happen before Hinkle is
repaired or repaved.
This is that project that is going to start the -- okay.
I can talk about that.
Okay.
Thank you.
My name is Chad Allen.
I'm in Capital Projects.
Frank Payne is my boss.
He's ill tonight, so he's not able to be here.
So I can speak about this project, and you're absolutely
right.
We're going to do this drainage project and build these new
box culverts up Hinkle so that they can repave that road.
So this has to happen before that roadway project is done.
So the roadway project can be done after the culvert
project is completed.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you, Chair.
Councilmember Gregory.
Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.
On item G, it has to do with amending of the contract for
our public safety dispatch system.
I have a couple of questions about that regarding what
kinds of upgrades are going to be involved.
There's been quite a bit of discussion the last few days in
the news about that.
So one of the questions is, are we having any problems with
receiving 911 calls from any of the cellular phone systems?
Another question is, I had seen on the news report that
some -- that Denton County 911 is moving towards being able
to accept text messages for 911 calls.
I'm wondering if this upgrade will have anything to do with
us being able to do that or are we renewing something that
's not going to help us make the progress that we need to be
making?
Thank you, Councilmember.
I'll have an answer for you briefly.
Good afternoon, Councilmembers and Mayor Pro Tem.
My name is Laura Barons.
I'm the Fire Marshal for the City of Denton and I have been
the lead project manager on this particular project.
And to answer your questions, I am not aware of any issues
that we've had here recently, like Dallas in particular has
experienced with receiving 911 calls.
And that's actually -- they're receiving duplicate calls
that are generated by certain phone carriers and they're
having engineers from those companies going in and
assessing to find out why that's happening.
But to my knowledge, no, we're not receiving those same --
or experiencing those same issues.
And in terms of being able to receive the text to messaging
calls, what we're doing here, in the first phase of this
project,
we met specifically with all the working groups within the
fire and police departments and we have developed
specifications for new systems.
One of them is for our RMS system, which is the record
management system, one for fire and one for police.
And the second one is for the CAD system, that's the
computer aided dispatch system.
And those new systems through this process will be bid out
and we'll be able to upgrade all of our current operating
systems in both of those two capacities.
So that's what this is for. Do you anticipate then at some
point that we will have an upgrade to receive text messages
?
Yes.
Okay.
At some point, yes.
Okay. Thanks.
Thank you.
Any other questions?
Councilmember Bergieri.
I'd like to remove from the consent agenda items B, C, and
D.
Was that D or E?
Bravo.
C, I don't know, what is that, cat?
Cat something.
D for dog.
And D for dog, okay.
That's not what it is.
Bunny cat dog, good.
Oh my goodness.
And for item C, I just wanted a small presentation from
staff for the rest of it.
I don't need any presentation, but just a very brief
presentation for the Safe Routes to Schools at the whole
session tonight.
If you don't mind.
Okay.
And the other two don't require presentations.
Great.
Anything else?
No.
I do, I was notified by the city manager that we are
pulling off item O to be considered at a later time.
So when the motion comes out tonight, pull off B, C, and D
as in dog, and O permanently.
Okay, great.
We will move on to item number 3A.
Receive a report, hold a discussion, and give staff
direction regarding amendments to the management agreement
between the city of Denton and the Dallas Entrepreneur
Center.
Mayor Pro Tem.
Yes, please.
I'm recusing myself from this discussion.
Thank you.
Okay.
Everybody settled?
Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem, council members.
I'm here to update you briefly on Stoke Denton.
I was here talking to you not very long ago about the same
project.
So the new information that I have to bring to you today is
about a six-month action plan that's been developed by St
oke Denton staff.
And I'm also going to reiterate the proposed amendments
that we have to the management agreement with the Dallas
Entrepreneur Center.
Briefly, during the February 21st work session, which was
the last time I was before you on this item, we discussed
Stoke Denton's history, budget information, and occupancy
and activity.
You also received a report from Tray Bowls of the Dallas
Entrepreneur Center.
And we discussed the establishment of performance metrics
and proposed amendments to the management agreement with
the DEC.
During that meeting, council members requested a comparison
of the structure of services that are provided by the Small
Business Development Center in Denton and Stoke Denton.
I've prepared that information and included it in your
backup.
And unless there are any specific questions about that
information, I'm not planning to go into it right now.
But glad to answer any questions if you have them about
that.
There was also a request for a community snapshot of
current tech sector activity in Denton.
And we're preparing a survey right now to be distributed to
the tech community at large.
We've also asked current Stoke Denton members to complete
the same survey for comparison purposes.
We did have that survey distributed to 27 members and eight
completed it.
I included those Stoke specific results in your backup as
well.
Again, not really planning to delve into that right now
because I'd like to see the response to the broader survey
just for comparative purposes.
But happy to answer questions about the survey if you have
them.
During the work session last time, we received a strong
message that council is interested in keeping Stoke Denton
focused on the tech sector.
I'm providing employment opportunities for our recent
college graduates.
So to be responsive to that, the staff of Stoke Denton has
developed a six month action plan.
Some of the highlights of that action plan include hosting
Denton Data Day at Stoke on March 4th.
And that was an event that was coordinated by a couple of
folks from UNT.
And that brought 50 people who were involved in data and
coding and technology and various aspects to Stoke to work
on city of Denton specific data for the entire day.
So that brought a number of people into the space at Stoke
and allowed them to work on a project that benefits the
citizens of Denton.
Another item that they're going to be working on in the
coming months is building an advisory council of folks who
are connected to the startup and tech world in Denton as
well as
DFW at large to advise and direct Stoke's efforts.
I understand that two people have been recruited to be on
that advisory council to date and there's a goal of adding
another three by the end of this month.
The mentor program is going to be another focus and that's
going to be grown not in terms of adding mentors because
there are already 25 mentors with expertise in various
fields at this point.
But the growth they're going to be focusing on is
connecting mentors with members and making sure that there
are plenty of mentor sessions available and that as many of
them as possible are used.
In conjunction with TechMill, Stoke has been hosting
technical web development workshops.
So TechMill does the programming. Stoke provides the space
and helps with the promotion for that.
Student discounts are also being offered.
I believe that is half off membership.
So from 150 down to seventy five dollars for students at
our local institutions of higher education as well as DISD.
Is that right? Okay. Good.
Women Who Code is a group that fosters women in the
technology industry and they have been meeting at Stoke for
the past several months free of charge and they're going to
continue to host those monthly meetups through 2017.
Finally, Stoke is establishing a guest company program,
which is a concept that more established technology
companies in the community who don't have need of office
space come into the space on occasion and work in the co-
working open area in order to interact with other folks who
are there.
Foster relationships and kind of serve in more of a maybe
an informal mentor role is a good way to describe it.
So if there are any questions about any of those activities
, I would be glad to answer them.
But this is what they're going to be focusing on primarily
in addition to recruiting new folks into this space,
keeping an eye on the fact that it needs to be focused
primarily on tech sector companies.
Councilmember Hawkins has a question.
Yeah, thank you.
And that kind of goes to my question. Do you feel the open
data event or any of the other events has kind of been
beneficial in courting any tech tenants?
What I gather from talking to the folks at Stoke and the
deck is that it's very beneficial.
I mean, bringing more people into the space, letting them
see what it's like, creating those interactions among
people is beneficial in terms of marketing and showing
people kind of what the space can do to help them and
whatever stage their business is in.
Okay, thanks.
Any other questions?
Okay.
Okay, to go back to the recommendations that I made to you
last time, these are all the same as you saw when we spoke
last about this.
But what I'm recommending is amending the management
agreement with the Dallas Entrepreneur Center to establish
baseline metrics for certain things that will then be used
to set future performance goals after the next six months
should the contract be renewed going forward.
We're going to change the term wording from will be renewed
annually to may be renewed annually. The expiration date
will change from March 1 2017 to September 30 2017.
We'll add a 30 day prior notice termination option and an
appropriations clause, as well as specify the remittance of
10% of the membership fees, excuse me to go directly to the
city of Denton instead of to the landlord.
Wanted to let you all know too that we're going to be doing
some additional evaluation of the value that Stoke brings
the city of Denton, we're going to be monitoring their
occupancy rate as well as the graduation rate or the folks
who move out of the space after they've accomplished their
goals and are ready to move on.
Recruitment of tech sector members will be something we'll
keep an eye on as well as general business generation and
growth and member satisfaction.
So finally, we'll take your questions glad to answer any of
them that you have and then I'm seeking direction to move
forward with bringing those management agreement amendments
to you for individual consideration at your meeting next
week.
Quick question on your previous slide the metrics that you
said the city staff will be monitoring. Is there any reason
some of those weren't put into the metrics that they are
putting together as part of their baseline metrics.
Yes, because we really want to set baseline metrics on some
basic things first, because it is such a new space, and we
want to gather information about the potential that the
space has without setting unreasonable expectations I think
is the best way to put it.
But these these things that we're going to be using to
evaluate it might factor into future goals in future
agreements.
What questions do you have.
Councilmember Gary.
It says that 90% of the membership fees that still collect
that Dallas Entrepreneur Center collects will go to daily
operations. So I'm trying to figure out what it is that the
city would be providing in light of the fact that 90% of
the rents are going to deck, and they're providing these
various items for daily operations.
So, where, what is it that we could potentially be
providing in terms of resources. That's a good question.
That's something that we would working with economic
development to actually distinguish what are they doing as
opposed to us and what are we providing.
I don't know the answer to that question, but that is
something that we would need to look into to answer that
question.
Do you want me to kind of give you the breakdown.
Okay.
So, we obviously provide everything that's associated with
the rent and the, the triple net associated things about
electricity and pest control and cleaning the facility that
kind of stuff.
The 90% goes to marketing programs, providing amenities to
the people who are members. Those kinds of the operational
aspects that don't have to do with the building maintenance
and provision of the lights and air conditioning and things
like that, if that helps at all.
It does. I'm wondering if we should define resources a
little bit better though so that we don't have a situation
where, you know, six months down the line, deck is saying
you were supposed to provide this and we say no, we weren't
supposed to provide that.
And we're happy to do that and I'd be glad to work with
legal on it. I mean, I will say that we have successfully
negotiated that line up to this point. I mean, that really
hasn't been a problem.
And we've weathered a lot together, working together under
the existing contract. But if that's something that you
would like for us to do before we bring it back to you for
a vote next week, I'd be glad to work with Erin to do it.
I would suggest just having a definition section and
defining what it is that resources are. I mean, that's at
the purview of council.
We can do that. We can specify the, as Caroline has listed,
what they are providing, what we provide so it's crystal
clear who's responsible for what.
Okay. Got it.
Councilmember Hawkins. I guess just overall you feel
comfortable that council is given direction to recruit tech
sector members and with these amendments and these changes,
that's what we are doing.
I think so. I feel confident that they understand that that
's the priority and we understand that as well.
Because it doesn't feel like it's written down, you know,
but I know like the direction. So I guess.
We've got it. Okay.
Yes, Councilmember Wasney.
Are we clear on the performance matrix standards for this
operation?
So, you know, I'm looking at nice words up there. The brass
tacks bottom line is this is costing a lot of money.
And so for future councils to really be able to sharpen
their pencils and take a look at funding this program,
there has to be a very solid performance matrix standard
for the use of this building and the people coming in.
You can't just say, well, you know, we have X number of
members. There has to be. So whether economic development
works with our finance department who is used to matrix
numbers and maybe let them help you noodle what it is that,
you know, so that there is some kind of a baseline and a
standard of where are we going.
So in six months to a year, 18 months, you can put up on a
screen a chart showing here's what's happening.
Here's what it's costing per job that is generated out of
Stoke because it still comes back to taxpayer money funding
this operation.
And there has to be a matrix for performance. Don't know
what that is, but there are smarter people in this room who
know how to put that together that can help future councils
when they come back and address this project.
I completely agree. We have to set those standards for
performance. And that's the idea of baselining for the next
six months so that we have the time to develop what those
future measurable metrics are that we can communicate to
the council.
So we're moving in that direction. Yes, ma'am. And I would
make the survey mandatory that if you are a member, you've
got to fill out the survey because the only way we have
what, eight surveys in out of how many people?
Twenty-three? Twenty-seven. Twenty-seven. So whether it
takes phone calls, you know, emails get lost in the shuffle
these days because people receive so many of them.
Pick up the phone and say council really needs this survey.
Economic development needs a survey. You've got to fill it
out. And put some heat on deck and let them know we want
the survey.
So when these people are in there using the space, you know
, they can kind of work the room to say who hasn't filled
out the survey because the survey is going to provide us
some of these baseline numbers and information that we need
.
So, you know, the survey results tell a lot and I think it
's really an important tool. So put some heat on them.
Anything you have to do and get these people to fill out
the survey. It will help you.
Anything else? I have a couple of questions and as you're
thinking about the evaluation, and I touched on this a
little bit last time and I'm not sure how to situate it at
least as it relates to justice contract or at least what we
're talking about in terms of goals, performance matrix.
Because it really is to me, this has always been a larger
conversation. Stoke is a resource to have in a community in
order to move a certain sector of our economy in the right
direction.
It's not the end game with that. There's several other
things that ought to be moving forward to make that happen.
So I'm afraid we're putting it all in the back of Stoke to
say we didn't draw in this company or this company or these
things didn't happen.
Where are we heading in terms of that broader conversation?
I know there was the leadership dent in class, had this
tech council concept. I'm not sure where that's at.
I know where the economic development partnership board is
in talking about strategies for the tech sector and how
this fits into that.
Part of me wants to see more discussion even in terms of
evaluation, in terms of partnerships.
What are our sustainable partnerships with our two
universities who are ultimately going to be feeding in
people, connections to a ton of resources at our two
universities, three universities if you count NCTC.
Other sorts of partnerships with the chamber or what not,
other people that would play a part in the success of this.
Talk to me about that kind of larger picture and what would
be your suggestion of tying in that larger picture to this?
Because I'd hate, of course I won't be here next time this
comes around, but I'd hate for the ultimate success of the
local economy on tech economic development to rest on the
back of a co-working space.
When in reality it's going to take several players coming
together to make things happen and when those are happening
, everyone's, hopefully the goal will be everything is
coming into place and even this is succeeding as a result.
So talk to me about your thoughts along those lines.
So to be frank, some of these things that you've mentioned
are in a little bit of a holding pattern right now.
We're in a little bit of a rebuilding mode in my department
and I think you're well aware of that.
So the community conversation around growing the tech
sector has been happening for a number of years.
A lot of people in this room, a lot of people listening
have been involved in that and there have been some great
ideas generated that we need to continue to work to flesh
out.
We're going to have to pick that back up again because it
is critically important for our economy and I think as we
touched on last time, we're doing some new strategic
conversations internally within economic development as a
department that will have to be floated up through the
processes and the approvals and the conversations with the
Economic Development Partnership Board and the council.
But I can say without question that we all acknowledge the
importance of growing the tech sector.
Stoke is a part of that.
It's an important part of it, but it's not all of it.
The partnerships have to be there.
The conversations have to continue and I think we all have
to be open to moving things forward as we all know they
need to in order to keep Denton
in line with the growing economy with creating the kind of
jobs and opportunities that we want for our community to
have.
So that's kind of my general perspective on it at this
point and it is critically important.
So you get that.
So that makes me feel good and I knew that already.
I wanted to put that up, but I really do.
I mean, as we look at some of the early stages of some of
these conversations that led to a lot of things, this being
one of them.
I mean, we even had partners at the table, you know, who
came and sought us out was folks from Peterbilt.
No one would think of Peterbilt as a tech company.
It wouldn't be your first thought.
You know, you think they're in our industrial park, but
they have some innovative engineers designs.
I mean, they do a lot of computer automation and things
like that.
And they brought us in, showed us their, I forget what they
call it, their lighthouse space where they come and do all
their ideas and everyone's supposed to take off their ties
and their titles.
And they brainstormed things.
And they were doing some cutting edge stuff along the lines
of, and wanted to be a part and a partner of what Denton is
doing to kind of build this sector of our economy.
And I think there's probably a ton of those sorts of
potential partners out there that can really help super
charge our efforts to do some really interesting things.
So one thing I would just suggest is you're evaluating it.
If it makes sense, as you're thinking about these bullet
points, to maybe add a bullet as it relates to partnerships
, that's something to track.
And I think STOKE can kind of serve as a center of that, at
least as it's putting on programs.
And certainly those partners would help feed some of those
things.
So just a thought and an encouragement as we're all
thinking about this a year from now.
And maybe I'll be able to come to the chambers to speak on
some of this stuff.
But think about the larger picture of this.
And I think that's where we're really going to find success
.
Okay. Thank you.
Any other questions or thoughts?
And this comes back before us?
Next week.
Next week.
Okay.
Well, thank you very much.
Okay. You're welcome. Thank you.
Next thing I see on the agenda is Pledge of Allegiance.
So I assume that means that this portion of the meeting is
done.
City Attorney, are we supposed to adjourn?
Or what's the technical thing we do at the end of the work
session?
Close the work session.
Okay.
Good evening.
Welcome to a regular session of the Denton City Council
here on March 21st.
The mayor is on travels tonight and couldn't be here with
us.
We're going to go ahead and get started with a Pledge of
Allegiance to our two flags.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
I honor the Texas flag. I pledge allegiance to the Texas
one state, under God, one indivisible.
Okay. We get started with agenda item three, presentation
from members of the public.
3B receives scheduled citizen reports from members of the
public if we can go ahead and roll the rules of procedures.
The Denton City Council has adopted rules of procedure,
including a code of conduct, which applies to citizens as
well as council members.
These rules were enacted to promote an orderly process and
to preserve decorum.
Here is a brief review of the rules that apply to citizens'
reports.
Citizens will have four minutes to give a report. There
will be an electronic beep when time has expired.
If the remarks are not concluded by that time, the citizen
will be asked to stop speaking.
If the citizen does not cease and a second request is made,
the mayor will request to have the citizen removed from the
council chambers.
Citizens are asked to not approach the dais.
If a citizen has papers or other materials to hand out to
the council, please let the city secretary know and she
will have a staff member distribute the materials to the
council.
The attorney general has ruled that council members may
listen to citizens speak and may ask questions of citizens
for clarification of the issue.
Council members will not engage citizens in discussion of a
topic because to do so could potentially be a violation of
the Open Meetings Act.
When speaking to the council, citizens are to direct all
remarks and questions to the council as a whole and not to
any individual member.
Please refrain from making abusive, personal, impertinent,
profane or slanderous remarks.
Anyone who violates this rule will immediately be removed
from the council chambers.
Citizens' adherence to these rules will help make an
effective presentation and will preserve the order and
decorum of our proceedings.
Copies of the rules of procedure are available from the
city secretary.
One, we have one scheduled citizen report from Jennifer
Lane.
Hello, my name is Jennifer Lane. I live at 1526 Willowwood
Street in Denton and I'm reporting on the tax freeze.
As a matter of fact, the very first time I ever saw a
council meeting was a meeting about taxes and I was
observing this while at the poll center broadcast.
Here's a little shout out from NTTV.
And it was in fact about the deferral tax that senior
citizens can pursue and which about 177 or so in the city
have done.
School taxes are already frozen for seniors and if passed,
the city will not be able to rescind this upcoming
proposition.
Unlike the school district, the city cannot appeal to the
state for funds in the event of a revenue shortfall.
So this is an issue right there.
And assuming a certain percentage, 3% of appreciation rate,
the homes valued at 150k or less will see no more than
about 20, maybe $25 in savings.
This tax freeze has the potential to shift the burden onto
businesses which may push up the prices of goods and
services.
Using assumptions lower than the historic averages and not
accounting for baby boom generation, the loss of revenue to
the city during the first year
at a very, very conservative estimate is projected to be $
200,000 and by 2026 could be $2,600,000 or more.
Depending on council's response, it could reduce the
general fund for street maintenance, parks, recreation
centers, homeless shelters, libraries, police, fire safety,
etc.
Seniors who rent, including those who are disabled or live
in senior housing, will not benefit.
The Federal Reserve Survey of Consumer Finances in 2013
shows that a homeowner's net worth is 36 times greater than
that of renters.
The tax freeze would benefit those who are wealthy.
There must be continual residential or business growth,
which means additional city services, or the city council
must reduce the budget to compensate for the revenue short
fall.
Failure to do so would harm younger families for the sake
of an interest group that does not need the help.
Seniors and disabled already receiving a $50,000 exemption
in addition to the homestead and other exemptions available
to the general public.
At the bottom of that page are two links.
I mentioned that the school taxes are already frozen and
for most the taxes are the heaviest burden.
School taxes can be more than half of the overall bill.
City taxes are around 25% of the bill, at least with the
school district, as I said, one can appeal to the state.
There's a marginal benefit, as I mentioned, for homes that
are valued at $150,000 or less.
And in my opinion, the city would benefit more from the
council raising the exemption for 65 and over by 5,000 a
year, say.
An additional exemption would give the city council more
flexibility to react to annual fluctuations in housing
prices.
Now, I know that this is out of the council's hands at this
point and even the candidates can't run on this issue,
particularly because it's to the public in general.
This is just a picture of some local dent in businesses.
But I want this to go on the record so that the public who
is here and who observes these videotapes has something to
think about in terms of arguments against the tax freeze.
And the assumption of 200,000 and 2,600,000 by 2026 is
actually a pretty conservative assumption.
And here are some percentages about appreciation of homes.
And the values of homes, the city is assuming at 209,000 so
.
These are some tables that I'm providing for you from,
given to me by tax expert, that show the years from 2008 up
through 2016.
And the average values of properties receiving the over 65
exemption.
And here's tax limitation, estimated impact.
Really, the percent was increased at 3% per year, not 2.
So here we have the city's projection at 2%, but actually
in the last little while, it's been 3.6% since 2008.
Current plans at Robson Ranch have adding 160 homes per
year until 2044.
The city's assumptions are 200 to 300 homes per year.
I'm not sure if that includes Robson.
And what happens if a larger portion of newly eligible
seniors have home values exceed?
>> You can conclude your remark.
>> Thank you very much.
>> Your sentence.
>> Okay, thank you very much.
Anyway, here are the rest of the PowerPoint, which will be
available to anybody who's looking online.
These are younger families who would be affected, the
interest group that does not need help.
And very important is that it is irreversible.
The tax freeze is portable also.
>> Okay.
>> The spouse is five years or longer.
It could be 20 to 25 years.
>> Thank you very much, Dr. Lane.
>> Thank you.
Please vote against the freeze.
>> Next, we have additional citizen reports, and I'm going
to query the council.
We had a unique situation come up as people were signing up
.
We had the first person sign up.
Two people were signing up for the second spot at the same
time.
And so the request would be that we'd be willing to suspend
the rules to allow for those three.
Is everyone okay with that?
Great.
Thank you.
Then we're going to begin with Janice Heidelberger.
If you can come up and please state your name and address,
and you may begin.
>> Janice Heidelberger, 425 Bernard Street, Apartment 907,
Denton, Texas, 76201.
Honored council members, Mayor Pro Tem, I hope I say that
correctly, and honored citizens.
Thank you for hearing me today.
I'm a sixth generation Texan on all sides, including some
of my family who are Denton farmers.
So Denton dirt runs very deep in my bones.
I have lived in Denton pretty much since 1992 myself, minus
a couple years for seminary and then ELCA, Lutheran pastor
in rural Nebraska.
Today I live very near UNT and I have a daughter in eighth
grade at Calhoun.
I love Denton and one of the best parts of Denton has
always been its parks.
I recently found Clear Creek and that is a beautiful place.
Thank you, city of Denton and honored council members.
This is well worth my taxes.
As a resident of Denton raising my family here, I want to
be safe and like you.
I want my child and her friends to grow up healthy, well
adjusted and able to fulfill her God given potential to
love God and serve her neighbor, all of her neighbors
worldwide.
I want to be able to walk around this town and bicycle
safely and I want easy train access to DFW airport, to all
the major major cities in Texas, plus north, south, north,
east and west.
I want clean air and clean water.
And so I know we all do and for ourselves and our children,
I want to live in a town that's a role model for the rest
of America and the world to follow.
Respectful council respectfully council members.
I don't want gas wells on my neighbor's public school
grounds and the ones there, I want monitored for methane
and leakage.
I want our parents and teachers to know how to stay healthy
in the wake of these gas wells.
Dear Lord God, my friend just now told me that her husband
has MSD and just went through bone marrow cancer, well
known to be a result of living from years of prolonged
exposure to benzene coming off of gas wells.
[Speaking in foreign language] Lord have mercy.
From the deepest part of my bones, I want Denton to do what
20 cities across America have already done, committing to
go 100% clean renewable energy over the next eight to 25
years in Vermont, Kansas, Colorado, New York, Minnesota,
Maryland, Michigan, California, North Carolina, Utah and
Texas.
Over 80 companies and many others have made the same
commitment like Walmart, Nestle, Nike, Microsoft, Johnson &
Johnson, Coca-Cola and Hewlett Packard.
And as of March 6th, 701 global institutions valued at $5.5
trillion have committed to divestment from fossil fuel.
But friends, instead of focusing on divestment, I want us
in Denton to focus on investment, investment in 100% clean
renewable industry jobs owned by hundreds or thousands of
small employee owned businesses.
I want Denton to lead the great state of Texas and America
along with those 20 other cities.
Jobs in clean renewable energy sector are permanent and
easily they are living wage.
The sooner the city of Denton goes to a 100% clean
renewable, the better.
The better for our labor force, our children, our elderly,
our veterans, our active military, our farmers, our
healthcare system, our world and ourselves.
The time is now.
It's time to tell a record 65 million refugees worldwide
that there is hope for them that they may be able to go
back home and farm.
That rains will come again and that the droughts and wild
fires across Amarillo, Oklahoma, Kansas and Missouri will
see the relief of moisture soon.
We know drought well here in Denton.
I've lived through it and we don't like it.
The Brookings Institution reports that economic growth and
CO2 emissions are decoupling and going their own ways.
Clean renewable energy across all sectors is good for the
economy, public health and our national security.
Let's respect the integrity of our military, our faith
leaders, our scientists and our hardworking citizens.
It's time for Denton to honor the contracts that it has, to
pay whatever it feels needs to be paid, amend those
contracts,
work with our gas plant owners to remediate and to ensure
that the children of those gas plant owners get to grow up
healthy and safe in a clean renewable energy economy and
world.
Let's work together.
Let's do this.
Let's be a leader as a city, a leader and a role model for
America and the world.
Thank you for hearing me.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Our next speaker who signed up is Deb Armantor.
Hi, Deb Armantor, 2003 Mistywood Lane.
I just want to say first a big amen to what Janice had to
say.
I completely agree and coincidentally it turns out that our
talks overlap.
I'm wearing a pin today that says stop the frack attack.
We as a city, as you are all aware, are under attack by big
oil and gas on a number of different levels.
As you know, at the national level, not only big oil and
gas, but the entire fossil fuel industry, every asset,
every big polluter is eager to get rid of the EPA,
and we now have an administration that wants to do just
that.
So that's scary for all of us.
I know I don't have to convince you of that.
At the state level, as you all know very well, we have HB
40, which still stands, which was the ban on fracking bans,
that was an attack not just against our city,
but it was in many ways a response to our citizen-initiated
fracking ban, which some of you who were on council at the
time supported that.
And I just want to thank you for supporting that.
The problem is when you're under attack in any kind of
attack situation, you need to be ready to continually
defend yourself.
I'm not a fighting person, but I know enough to know that a
fight is not just a one punch.
There's a punch and a counterpunch, and then another punch
and another counterpunch.
So in the case of HB 40, unfortunately, we had a great
defense against fracking with our fracking ban,
but when they struck at us with HB 40, and that was low and
that was dirty, it was not the fault of anybody here,
we didn't have a counterattack.
We ended up caving and our council at the time repealed our
own fracking ban for fear of lawsuits.
So now this leaves us vulnerable not only to a state that
doesn't want to defend our health,
our children's health and local control from fracking, but
also a national government.
So there are a couple things that I want to ask you all to
do first at the state level,
and this is something that we all can do as individuals.
I'm also speaking to whoever is watching at home.
There's a bill called the Protect Our Children Act that
would allow municipalities to govern oil and gas operations
within 1,500 feet of schools.
And this is something that has been sponsored and was put
out by Representative Terry Canales from the 40th district.
And the name of the bill is House Bill 3403.
It's called the Protect Our Children Act.
And I don't think I need to convince anybody here why it's
a good idea not to have oil and gas operations so close to
schools.
As you all know, over near Geyer High here in Denton, there
was recently a gas leak that got into well water.
And it was very, very bad for local health.
And this was from an old gas well.
As you know very well, after well stops operating, this
stuff is continuing.
I want to second what Janice said about please, since we're
under attack, please don't go ahead with this gas plant.
Renewable energy is getting cheaper and cheaper, and this
is just not a good idea.
So please support this bill at the state level, and please
do more to defend us from fracking.
Thank you.
>> Thank you very much.
Our next speaker is Katherine Lustgarten.
Please state your name and address, and your time will
begin.
>> My name is Dr. Katherine Lustgarten.
I reside at 11809 Sutherland Drive, 76207.
I'm also here in reference to a recent methane gas leak,
and I do appreciate you allowing three speakers that we
didn't know that each other would be here on the same topic
.
But the Denton Record Chronicle reported on the recent
methane leak from an existing gas well that posed a serious
hazard to a Denton family.
It so happens that that well and other wells are adjacent
or very near Denton Geyer High School.
And so I and several other, many other folks in Denton are
concerned about the risk, potential ongoing risk to the
students, faculty, and staff at that high school.
Obviously, those same risks are there, are posed to local
businesses and other residents in the area.
But the high school is a public place and has a special
safety concern for the city.
We weren't sure who or how to ask for your help.
Some of my cohorts are attending tonight's school board
meeting to address the same issue, namely safety of the
folks in the high school that are put at risk because of a
gas well so nearby.
Specific actions that we think may be beneficial, but we're
asking for your help.
We don't know.
We're not the experts.
But one possible action would be to install methane gas
monitors in all the school buildings that are affected by
those nearby wells.
And that those monitors be operated 24/7, not just a once a
month check or a once a week check or whatever, that they
be continuously monitored by somebody other than the folks
who own those gas wells.
We'd like the public and local businesses to be informed of
this risk factor.
To my understanding, this leak was unknown until the Denton
Record Chronicle reported on it.
The gas company did not report to the city of Denton that
there was a safety issue that needed to be looked at.
We feel that the existing evacuation plan, in the event
that a leak is detected, that the evacuation plan for that
school is very inadequate.
And we'd like that addressed, a better evacuation plan
developed.
We'd like the gas companies to be required to notify the
city officials when they become aware of a hazard that
exists at one of their well sites.
So my request to you as a concerned citizen is for the city
council and city staff members to take whatever actions can
be done to protect the safety of those folks, Denton
citizens that are at risk of gas leaks.
And to work with the school board if that's appropriate or
however you need to put it together, I don't know how that
works best and hopefully you guys do.
But we don't want these new safety implementations to take
place a year from now or six months from now or three
months from now.
We'd like immediate action because as the recent article
showed, these are not just potential risks by putting gas
wells so close to businesses and residences in schools.
They're real. They're actual risks and we'd like very
prompt action.
Thank you so much for your attention.
Thank you very much for coming here today.
That wraps up our citizen reports. Our next item for the
council to consider is the consent agenda.
We have a council request to pull off for individual
consideration items B, C, and D, and then a staff request
to pull off item O for consideration at a future date.
Councilmember Hawkins.
Thank you Mayor Pro Tem. I move approval.
Councilmember Begari.
Second.
Okay, everyone vote on the board.
That motion passes unanimously.
So now we will take those three items individually and as I
understand Councilmember Begari, there's no request at
least for B for a presentation. Is that correct?
Right. No request for presentation for B or D.
Okay. So I guess we're open for a motion on B.
Councilmember Hawkins.
I move approval of consent agenda item B.
Councilmember Gregory.
Second.
Okay, everyone vote on the board.
That passes four to two. Moving on to item C, consider.
Oh, I'm sorry, Mr. Hudspeth.
See, I'm a newbie. Blame it on my youth and inabilities up
here.
You wanted to speak on item number B. So please, you have
the floor.
I live at 623 Newton.
And I also should have had a card to speak for the open
session.
And I was here for it. Right at the end, this lady spoke
before me.
I should have had time to speak.
That's okay.
It's not okay, but I will not.
Pursue that now. Do it later.
My concern with many of the consent agenda's items, as I
stated in the work session, is that it doesn't seem to,
there doesn't seem to be any effort to bring in minorities
in these contract situations that we are looking at.
And I looked at myself on tape and even I thought to myself
, man, you've got to stop talking about the black thing and
the African-American thing.
We don't have this for that. And I thought, well, somebody
's got to say something about it.
And what God has told me in Galatians, one of the books in
the Bible, he said, be nice to everybody.
You can bring up stuff, but you don't have to be ugly about
it and rude.
So I've got to work on that. So I'm just going to, I just
want to bring it up.
And I just, that's all I want to do is just make mention of
it.
And I want to just ask the question to the public who's
listening at this presentation right now, and you, council
people.
Why don't we have African-American firefighters? What is
wrong with us?
Do we not know how to put out fires? Do we know, can we
ride on trucks without falling out?
Why don't you have African-American firefighters? We have
police now. Thank God somebody's doing something right over
there.
And the public servants, they're civil service people. Why?
Why don't we have African-American?
I've told you before, what I want you to do is figure out
what is the, what amount of my taxes go towards paying for
the fire departments
and those nice buildings they put over here and the big old
trucks that they ride around the internet, those luxurious
living quarters?
How much of my tax money is paying for that? I'll make a
deal with you. I'll put out my own fire at my house.
Just reduce my tax payment to you for those areas in which
you don't have any representation of my race presented or
we don't get the jobs in fire department.
Tell you what, we got one black person in the A position in
the fire department. One.
It took me nine years of protesting to get one. So what I
think, we'll take a percentage of one African-American who
can put out a fire
and do something that, whatever they do, and give me my
taxes back or get somebody in those positions that looks
like me.
Then we'll go to the parks department and the electrical
company and all of the other places that we're not
represented at all.
You take our money, but we don't get hired. Thank you, Mr.
Hutspeth. Item 4C, consider approval of a resolution author
izing the city manager
or his designee as Denton authorized representative to
commit to fund, if selected, the applications for active
transportation and safe routes to school projects
through the North Central Texas Council of Governments,
confirming intent to pay 20% of the total projected cost
and provide an effective date.
I believe we have a presentation on this.
Okay. Good evening, council members. Thank you for giving
me this opportunity to come speak to you about our
application to COG for transportation alternatives set
aside.
So, COG has $23.4 million to award to the 12 counties in
the MPO area, and that's funding through our current
federal transportation funding bill, the FAST Act.
So they have this money to give out in two different
categories. So one category is active transportation, which
is your customary bike and pedestrian projects.
And the other category is safe routes to school projects,
which is providing safe routes to children to get to school
either by biking or walking.
It's important to note this is not a grant program. It is a
reimbursement program. So we get reimbursed 80% of the
project cost.
I am now going to present to you the projects that we
selected to send to COG as our application.
So the first one for active transportation, we're calling
this our Sycamore-Welch connection because it's a project
on Sycamore and Welch.
It connects our downtown Denton Transit Center to
University of North Texas and also to our rail trail and to
larger mobility in the region.
We chose this project for a multitude of reasons. One of
them was that we felt this would give us the most scoring
options for the application.
So it's regional connectivity, mobility, safety, equity,
and local network connectivity, as well as the regional
connectivity.
As I mentioned, this connects to our rail trail, which then
connects everybody down to Dallas and to Dart and to get
you to the airport and then to anywhere on the road you
wanted to go.
The cost estimate for Sycamore, which we're proposing a
side path on the north side that is consistent with our
adopted bike plan from February of 2012, that estimated
cost is just a little over $1 million.
That includes a new traffic signal at the intersection of
Carroll Boulevard and Sycamore Street.
That money's already been allocated to the traffic
department for that new traffic signal.
On Welch, we are proposing a road diet. Right now, Welch is
a four lane intersection, I'm sorry, a four lane roadway,
very similar to Eagle.
It'll be four lanes now, but it'll be three lanes in each
direction, I'm sorry, two lanes with a continuous turn lane
and then bike lanes.
That is also consistent with our adopted bike plan.
The cost for Welch, which is striping and some new
intersection improvements like ramps and crosswalks, is
about $283,000.
TXDOT automatically includes an admin cost, that's their
cost there.
Total for that project is about $1.4 million. Our cost at
the city is $289,000.
And at the end, I'll talk about how we're funding each one
of these.
For the Safe Routes to School projects, we have two of them
. The first one is for projects at Jennings Elementary
School.
We chose this for one, it's already included in our Safe R
outes to School plan, which we worked on, I think it was in
2010, with DISD and city staff.
It is ranked third out of the 20 schools in the Denton ISD
for economically disadvantaged students.
This is an important thing to note because it's one of the
highest scoring criteria for the application.
The cost for this project, which is putting sidewalks where
they're missing currently on Stewart Road and improving
some of the crosswalks there, is about $629,000.
Not about, that's the actual estimate.
Our 20% cost is about $138,000. Again, not about, that's
the actual 20% cost. And that includes the TXDOT admin cost
.
The second one we chose was for Lee Elementary School. Lee
Elementary is actually ranked fourth for the percentage of
students who are economically disadvantaged.
This is putting sidewalks on Mulkey. It's slightly hard to
see, but the orange sections, the blue is where sidewalks
already exist, and the orange is where we plan to put
sidewalks currently.
Again, this is also in accordance with our 2010 Safe Routes
to School plan.
The cost that we estimated for that was $285,000. Our 20%
match is $56,000.
Here's an overview of the cost and where the funding is
coming from. So you can see for the Active Transportation
Project, our funding is coming through two different
sources.
One is our bike fund. So every year, the engineer or my
department, we are allocated $200,000 to do bike
infrastructure to implement our bike plan.
So we're paying a little bit out of that. Basically, it's
for the striping on Welch Street, which is about $60,000, I
think.
And it's about, that's less than what we'd stripe it if it
wasn't at the 20%.
And then the rest of it, we have talked with the people in
traffic to use the funds that they have for their new
traffic signal at Carroll and Sycamore to use those as our
matching funds.
And that fund, the actual $289,000, will be less than what
they'd allocated for that traffic signal anyway. And the
traffic signal is part of the plan. So that's where those
funds are coming from.
For both of the Safe Routes to School programs, those fund
ings are coming from the 2014 Sidewalk Bond Funds.
Both of those are actually going to be less than what was
allocated for those projects in the Sidewalk Bond Program.
So we're requesting about $202.4 million. And if we were
chosen for all three of them, we could get chosen for one
or two or all three of them.
We'd be paying about $500,000. Our applications were due
February 24th. We turned that in.
Since there is a little bit of a quick turnaround between
when they open up the call and when applications are due,
it's hard to get an actual funding resolution in that time.
So I'm here tonight for the funding resolution that if our
projects were selected, we would be committed to funding
those.
And we did submit a letter from the city manager with our
application that we would provide the resolution.
That's why I'm here tonight. If there are any questions, I
will do my best to answer them.
We have a couple of questions for you. Councilmember
Gregory.
Thank you very much for the presentation. I appreciate
Councilmember Begarri asking that this be pulled for a
separate consideration.
I'm thinking of doing that myself because I would like to
highlight this.
To your knowledge, has the city applied for Safe Routes to
Schools funds before?
To my knowledge, we have not, no.
Do you think that this has been facilitated by A, the B
iking and Pedestrian Plan, and B, the work that was done on
developing the Safe Routes to School Plan?
Yeah, without either of those plans, it's sort of hard to
make the case that we're actually committed to doing this.
So it's an important part of the application that we
actually have a plan in place that shows support for these
types of projects.
Well, my thanks to you, my thanks to the city manager. I
want to point out that this is just a great example of
where a variety of departments are not operating in silos,
but they're working together, streets department,
engineering, active transportation, and the city working
together with the school district.
That's what it takes in order to get bigger projects like
this to happen that will benefit everyone.
I discovered the Safe Routes to Schools a few years before
in another life and was pleased now, and I'm so pleased
that we're finally in a position where we can apply for
these funds.
Do you have any notion as to how many other cities are
applying and therefore what our chances might be?
I do not know how many other are applying. I do know that
historically there have been less applications to Safe Rout
es to Schools.
Most of the applications for when they've had this open
before has been for active transportation.
So that possibly helps our chances if there's less people
actually submitting them.
Well, I'm pleased that we're going after that money. That's
money that will serve the citizens of Dentonville.
Thank you.
Councilmember Wasney.
When you can get 80% of the money in and the city only has
to put in 20% to get kids to and from school safely, again,
bravo to staff.
And I'd like to see something like this every year come
down because funds are out there. Let's fight for them.
We have a lot of mobility issues in this city on getting
kids to and to and from school.
And it's important. So whoever had a hand in this staff
wise, thank you from parents.
Thank you from grandparents. Thank you from kids and for
everybody who calls Denton home.
So thank you.
Thank you.
In addition to having these plans in place, which help
facilitate this as well, the fact that we now have a
coordinator in place who's able to think about these things
and go after them in a way that we haven't had the same
staff capacity to do.
So you're earning your salary. Thank you. Thank you very
much.
I think if we don't have any other council questions, we do
have a card for this. Mr. Willie Hutspeth would like to
speak.
Mayor Pro Tem, my name is Willie Hutspeth. I live at 623
Newton.
I didn't hear Ryan mentioned.
How many kids are going to need to die or be injured badly
trying to get to Ryan High School?
I didn't hear Guy mentioned.
How many kids are going to be need to be injured or killed
trying to get to Guy?
Why wasn't a proposal submitted for that?
You've done some things to try to improve that.
But I have breakfast every Thursday morning at Jack in the
Box at the corner of McKinney and Loop 288.
Every morning students are crossing there right through
Jack in the Box, which sits two or three building spaces
from the corner of McKinney and from McKinney on Loop 288.
And for whatever reason, they cross there. The crossing
lights are further down.
But they cross at Jack in the Box where there are no lights
and that last kid that got killed or hurt, I can't remember
what happened.
But someone was turning from McKinney on Loop 288 and at a
reasonable speed limit.
And they have to be at school early in the morning. The
driver just did not see the kid.
The kid thought he could, of course, make it.
But when you turn that corner and you have these cars that
just really pick up speed quickly, you can't make it.
I'm going to be back before you. You got your buses running
.
You still haven't fixed that sidewalk. And now there's
money.
There's an opportunity to have money. And where are you
putting it?
Well, the elementary kids. Man, you got to do something for
them too.
So I'm not saying the money is wasted.
I saw the kids at Evers. They leave Evers and walk down the
street.
I think it's a mulky they get to. And in groups of six to
seven, eight, they're walked in the middle of the street.
So we've got a problem there too. My concern is Geier and
Ryan.
They are still walking in the street. They don't have
sidewalks.
So bravo that you're doing something for some of the
schools.
But I'm telling you, one more person gets hurt or killed in
that stretch of highway on McKinney.
I'll be right back in front of you saying, hey, how many
more must we lose before something's done?
Thank you, Mr. Hutspeth. Councilmember Wasney.
I'd like to make a motion to approve item 4C. Thank you,
Councilmember Briggs.
I will second. We have a motion and a second. Please vote
on the board.
Item C passes 6-0. Moving on to the final item off the
consent agenda that's been pulled is item D.
Consider a request for an exception to the noise ordinance
for the purpose of the thin line film fest to be held on
the historic Denton County Courthouse on the Square Lawn
and at Travelstead on April 19th through 23rd, 2017 from
noon to 11 p.m.
The exception is specifically requested to increase sound
levels from 70 to 75 decibels. Any council discussion?
Councilmember Begarry. Thank you. I had requested pulling
this off consent because we had so many complaints when the
Oktopia Festival happened.
I got a number of emails about the sound situation late at
night.
So what I did was I requested some information about thin
line and it turns out that their shows are going to be at
Dan's and at Backyard on Bell.
And Taps and Caps, which are both pretty far away and
interior venues.
So I'm OK with this because I thought there was going to be
like a stage on the square at 1 a.m.
Basically on a weeknight. But that's not the case at all.
So.
OK, thank you very much. We do have a couple of cards along
these lines.
One is Mr. Willie Hutzpeth. No, he would not like to speak.
The other one is I apologize. It's hard to read this.
S. Heidelberger. Oh, it's you again. OK, thank you.
Please state your name and your address. Janice Heidel
berger, 425 Bernard Street, Apartment 907, Denton 76201.
I want to encourage the council members to please not
approve this exception to increase to allow an increased
amount of noise on those days.
April 19th through 23rd, those are school nights.
And this is around the time when there is standardized
testing going on in our year.
And during the final month before our graduate and
undergraduate students at our universities are are doing
their final projects in that final push before kind of the
middle of May when the whole semester comes to an end.
So I think that that much noise is is unnecessary for that
amount of time and is going to obstruct
families and young adult students and then families with
young kids who do live around that area very closely during
that time from doing their very best in school and being
good citizens.
Thank you very much. Our next speaker is Jennifer Lane.