Apr 12, 2016 City Council on 2016-04-12 4:00 PM
April 12, 2016 City Council
Full Transcript
Good afternoon. I wanted to welcome everyone to this Denton
City Council
meeting on Tuesday, April the 12th, 2016, and we will now
proceed on to agenda
item one, which is work session reports, and we do have a
quorum by the way, and
now there we are. Everybody's present? We'll go on to
agenda item 1A, which is
Receive a Report. Hold a discussion, provide staff with
direction
concerning streamlining the city right-of-way and easement
acquisition
process for time-sensitive projects. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
I'll ask Paul
Williamson if he would present this item for council's
consideration this
afternoon. Thank you, Paul. Mayor, council members,
appreciate y'all's time this
afternoon. Today we're going to talk about a process of...
I would maybe
characterize this as it's streamlining, but it could also
be characterized as
compressing our typical right-of-way acquisition process
for a couple of
projects that we're ramping up on right now. Those projects
being the
2181 utility relocation project and also the US 377 Fort
Worth Drive
utility relocation project. Both of those projects are, for
us, are ramping up
basically in the same time frame. We've got engineering
occurring and surveying
occurring on both those projects simultaneously with two
different firms.
And one of the things that for us is that our typical right
-of-way acquisition
process does typically go between two and four years. We've
experienced that on
projects of late. And those kind of roll out in kind of a
serial fashion
where we get the surveying done and then we come back and
we get title work
and we roll those things out and as the appraisals are
performed and we
make the offers, they kind of run in a sequential process.
And it really, for us,
it's about, you know, how much manpower that we're alloc
ating to that process.
And it's really more of a serial way that it flows. And it
's happening while
the project's being designed. And so that's the way we've
typically done
those. And for these two projects we're proposing something
just a little bit
different because we actually are constrained by when TxDOT
needs to let
these projects on both of them. They're both really very
similar. And typically
when we make our offers and we start working a project that
we will,
as we come to, if we come to an impasse with any particular
property owner, we'll
bring a discrete request to the City Council to authorize
imminent domain for
that particular tract. And we'll bring it in, we'll discuss
it with City
Council, and we'll typically we'll work toward being able
to get the authority
to acquire that whatever land rights we're needing and we
'll proceed through
the statutory processes to make those acquisitions. And
those time periods,
again, they run serially. We'll, you know, they kind of
maybe once over two or three
council meetings one might come up. And what we're bringing
forward here is that
we're thinking that on these two particular projects, we,
one, we're really
focusing a lot of energies toward compressing time. We're
working
diligently now on a weekly basis to get all the land title
work and surveys
and get all these things in a very compressed period of
time.
And so what we're looking at is is that we're focusing on
possibly making,
getting those offers floated out there as many as we
possibly can to the land
owners that are going to be affected by these. And these
two particular
projects, they're easements. So they're not fee purchases,
they're just going to
be an easement along the frontage of these tracts in
various locations where
we need to relocate utility lines out of the right-of-way
where they're going to
conflict with typically it's the drainage catch basins or
some part of
the highway project that makes water lines and sewer lines
conflict. And so
really what we're looking for here is just an understanding
that you're going
to be seeing on future council agendas if how this is
received is it will end
up bringing kind of almost in a batch format maybe three or
four five or six
discrete request when we get to that if we get to that
point where we're not
going to be able to make settlements or negotiate any kind
of terms with any
particular property owner. So in these two projects instead
of just basically
the normal course of the life of a project where we're
working these
things in a serial process now we're looking at kind of
almost
parallel where we're going to be putting a lot of man hours
out there
engaging the property owners and identifying the ones that
we're going to
be able to make settlements with and then the ones that are
going to be
require that extra effort and the extra energy to get those
land rights acquired.
And so that's what we're here wanting to give you basically
a heads up is that
you're likely to see in the coming months because of the
the constraints
that we're under kind of an expedited approach to booking
these land rights.
I like that we're trying to kind of compress this but what
does a discrete
request actually mean? Well we won't be bundling like it
will we will be looking
at on a tract by tract basis like a we won't be coming at
and saying okay
there's ten properties in a row and we're asking for
authority for all ten
properties at the same time we'll have to so you might have
five ordinances
you're looking at but they're all going to be coming at you
at the basically the
same meeting. Okay. But they're just going to be kind of a
spate instead of one
every once in a while. And now I mean we go into these
projects very helpful that
we're going to be able to negotiate and settle with every
property owner.
Paul talking specifically about 2181 the tight time
constraints is that because
it was it was kind of in the plan for TexDOT and then that
funding got pulled
back and then it was back on with a pretty definitive early
start? It's been
my understanding on this particular project that you know
the the energies
that TexDOT was putting into their design had been kind of
tied in tied out.
It's you know they I know that that particular design has
been on on board
for could be 15 years and so it's it's gotten differing
levels of energy and
then and then now they're you know that I think they've
gotten to the point on
both of these projects where they either they they've got
their plans to a
percentage of completion where they can actually release
them for utility
relocates and that's really the thing for the city is the
thing that we've
always had to kind of wait on TexDOT as to when they got
their plans to that
percentage of completion where they're not going to change
anything
dramatically which would affect our relocation design so we
can't really put
our resources into their our design until we get a good
commitment from
TexDOT and that's where we are on both these projects now.
Thank you.
Thank you Mayor. Because of our discussion at the Mobility
Committee
meeting this afternoon I understand about the time-s
ensitive nature of some
of these because of funding that might be running out that
we lose that funding
if we don't act within a fairly timely fashion but I want
to balance speed and
expediency with thoughtful deliberations and I'm a little
bit concerned about
that and and and trying to think of it in terms of past
experience and I'm
thinking if we had maybe five or six properties in a row
that we needed to
acquire and we discovered that one of the acquisitions was
going to be so
difficult and was going to potentially be so costly through
litigation and
difficulties that we might decide to change the route but
we've already
acquired several of the other properties and this causes me
a great deal of
concern that that that we're going to get in a bind by
having acquired a number
of other properties but really not be able to continue
forward with a route
now on on these two particular projects I don't think that
's an issue but but are
you just proposing this for these two projects are you
proposing a streamline
process for all future processes I think these these two
are the ones that are
right in front of us and the ones that are getting our
attention the the
McKinney Street project is that's that's the next one right
and so that's out
there and certainly we want to do everything we can as a
group to make
sure that there's not a lot of float or drawn out to any of
our processes so
we're always looking for ways to try to you know compress
the time and one of
the things that is in your backup and John Davis spoke
about what in
articulated was that you know days on a project is equates
to money material
costs absolutely so we're mindful of that and you know so
we want to employ
and put the resources on these projects where we where we
do have you know
looking at the bottom line on that but you do understand my
concern about the
other part of the bottom line if we if we acquire a bunch
of properties and
realize that route's not really the most viable route given
some of the roadblocks
that we have with other property acquisitions and actually
we actually
discussed that yesterday one of our project meetings is
that the going ahead
and getting this initial engagement basically with all the
property owners
even ahead of making them offers and and and bringing them
the physical documents
that we would need we're gonna we're gonna make those early
on engagements
with our schematics and really and work to establish that
dialogue with the
property owners so we can understand where they are and if
and if we if we
need to revisit a particular design we'll have a we'll get
a jump on the
curve on that so that that particular part of the process
would probably
lessen the likelihood of the scenario that I described okay
thank you thank you
Mary well one of the things I I think could be a pro of
this concept is in
some cases take mail for example we're looking at a
particular land case a
couple years ago and now we're looking at something else
two years later and so
I always feel as a council member that I'm kind of losing
the bigger picture as
I'm looking at kind of just individual one-off properties
and even from a
perspective of thinking through what our authorizations are
what we're thinking
about in terms of negotiations there is something about
having a more
comprehensive scope that I think could be beneficial to us
thinking ahead but I
just want to clarify what this does so it sounds like this
is simply instead of
us getting something on a pace of one to two a council
meeting it just means
we're gonna get more council meeting but other than that is
the process very
different no no it's just gonna be it's gonna be more and
like I said we're
gonna actually have like I'm hiring a new person we had a
person retire at the
end of December and I'm actually got a new hire coming on
board early part of
May and basically that person's gonna be dedicated to 377
that's gonna be their
project welcome to Denton here's your project and so so you
know that that's
the kind of on all our other projects you know we've got
our real estate staff
and we've got 20 or 30 projects going at any one time so we
're really looking to
focus on these projects so I guess my other question is and
this harkens back
to Joey's question about a discrete item and what that
meant because on that
first bullet point it sounds like what she answered to him
was you're still
gonna see these as separate agenda items that first bullet
point seems to give
the indication that all these are gonna be put into one
action item we're not
gonna we're not gonna really be able to do that just
because to be able when you
say in a single agenda item on that first bullet point I
guess that's that
that means on a single agenda yes correct not item okay
thanks so I just
want to clarify what Kevin just said so I mean as I'm
reading that I had the
same interpretation as you did so let's just get down to
the specifics let's
say we're operating under this paradigm and we have five
projects a through he
can't count that fast a through e and do what yeah okay
that's good good idea so
they come to us so on consent say it's on consent typically
these are on
consent so does that mean a through e will be on consent
agenda item a
authorizing eminent domain for a through e or are you
saying that there'll still
be five consent agenda items for each one of these pieces
of property these
would actually be on that portion of the agenda that are
they're called out
that's somewhat like a hearing okay so so that and there
would be five discrete
ones but it would be on one project okay all right okay
that's good and there's
nothing that's changing we're still conforming to the
statute on eminent
domain it's just a clumping together yeah yeah and just to
give get the
council some advance notice that that we are changing
basically kind of our
internal processes and that they're going to be coming with
with a high
order of frequency if we get to that point I mean it like
said I'm very
optimistic that we'll be able to typically easements are or
as it comes
to negotiating land rights they're just less obtrusive int
rusive to a property
owner especially along a text on highway they're they're
pretty implicit and and
in both of these corridors text dot has already acquired
the right of way that
they they need so just about every one of the property
owners that we're going
to knock on their doors have text out has already visited
them all right
questions if y'all had any yeah that that yeah that will be
repeat that
repeat that comment for the record the the authorizations
for final offers will
be embodied in the ordinance requesting authority to file
eminent domain so how
is that different from our current procedure they well the
current the
current procedure is that the the authority that we got
back in 2013 it
also it encompasses offers and final offers in in the
authority but since we
are since we since we're if we get to that point where we
're getting the
ordinance for eminent domain just as a matter of course we
'll include that the
final offer in there to kind of bundle that now when you
say the ordinance in
2013 where you gave authority yeah that that's just the the
one that we that was
for offers to give the authority to make you know make it
offers on projects okay
now is that was that just related to the electric electric
transmissions projects
and things like that or was that overall
utility projects and street projects that are impacted by
the delegation in
light of the multiple takings because of the high volume of
work that we've been
doing so this will still be in play as we work through
these projects that Paul
is referencing so it's it's still out there and we will
still continue to use
this but it's my understanding too that the limitation in
that is that if it's a
certain percentage over appraised value that that that's
the limiting factor of
that authority is it which I think if we were to do an
analysis I'm not so sure
that probably most of the offers have exceeded that I think
it's 10 or 15
percent of a set of appraised value is what that authority
is limited to as far
as designated to the city manager to execute right there is
a specified
authority it's 20% okay and it's a little different for DME
projects and
that's how we'll make our offers based on that authority it
you know Senate
bill 18 we wanted to firm up that we had authority to make
offers to purchase
and that were bona fide offers and so that's how we'll make
all all of our
offers to purchase on both of these projects and linear
projects but in no
way does this circumvent a property owners rights to a
commissioners
hearing to move forward I mean in no way does this circum
vent no any of that
process it doesn't rob them of any rights it doesn't reduce
a time frame
that's that's prescribed by law in other words it they
still have the same rights
and privileges prescribed by law as before yeah and and I
would say probably
the the the main differences is it like in our prior
projects you know we've
the the lead time and the the courtesy time and the
interactive time with the
property owner that is has accrued over those projects
where you know we we work
out in calendar days like well we haven't heard from that
property owner in
45 days therefore we're gonna go ahead and I mean we're
going to get on the
very next council agenda right for eminent domain we've
those have kind of
precipitated as they really kind of needed to for the
project in this
particular these two particular projects we're gonna be
watching the calendar as
much as we're gonna be interacting with the property sure
okay all right yes
Councilmember Rodin it also occurs to me that part of
streamlining as we're
thinking about the potential of having ten items before us
from a closed
session point of view that could significantly increase our
the time we
would need to get through those so I'm just asking the
question if there's a
way to think through streamlining how we get that
information perhaps even ahead
of time to review to be able to flag for what other sorts
of what issues we have
so if we come into a closed session some sort of attorney
client privileged
backup which we typically don't have for these sorts of
items right if it's the
council's desire we can certainly give you some information
in addition to
what's in your council backup packet in the status report
on Friday so we're
glad to do it just suggest that maybe we think through how
to make that
streamlined as well to avoid having look at that and as we
identify issues try to
give you as much of a heads-up and lay time as we perfect
thanks anybody else
any other questions seeing none you did do it in 30 minutes
thank y'all thank
you
good evening I wanted to welcome everyone to this special
called meeting of the
Denton City Council it is 5 p.m. on Tuesday April the 12th
2016 if you would
please stand with me if you're able to pledge allegiance to
the US and Texas
flag
honor the Texas flag I pledge allegiance to the Texas one
state under God one and
in business I'll be coming down front we have a pro
clamation
come on up everybody with served in and mayors day of
concern if you would
introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about the mayor
's day of concern
sure I'm Pat Smith executive director of served in and I'm
Tom Newell with the
Denton Community Food Center and we are here to talk about
the mayor's day of
concern for the hungry which is going to be on April 25th
and it's a community
wide food drive that's the preceding week April 18th of the
22nd and it's
really an opportunity for them to come together and to help
multiple agencies
that help people that were hungry to stock up for the
summer when supplies
tend to get low and really to make people aware about the
struggles that
many of our citizens face with the guarding hunger well I'm
gonna sound
like a broken record because I say this every time we have
a proclamation like
this but the city of Denton is such a great compassionate
and caring
community as evidenced by you guys here and what you stand
for and what we're
gonna be doing in the food drive and how that's gonna
benefit people who have
food insecurity in our city so thank y'all so much for just
day in and day
out helping those in our community that they really need
the help this is a
proclamation by the mayor of the city of Denton Texas
off focus whereas the city of didn't recognize is adequate
nutrition as a
basic goal for each citizen and whereas no parents should
have to send a child
to school hungry no baby should be without the comfort of
feedings needed
for mental and physical growth and no elderly person's
health should be
jeopardized by lack of appropriate foods and whereas each
day more than a hundred
and nine thousand people in Denton County struggle with
food insecurity I'm
gonna read that one more time whereas each day more than a
hundred and nine
thousand people a hundred and nine thousand people that's
almost the
population of the city of Denton in Denton County struggle
with food
insecurity which means they do not know where their next
meal will come from and
in the Denton Independent School District alone there are
900 homeless
children 900 homeless children ten thousand two hundred and
thirty three
students on free lunches and one thousand six hundred and
sixty two
students who are on reduced price lunches and whereas the
Denton Hunger
Coalition in partnership with Tarrant area food bank serve
Denton and and
other local organizations work to stem the rising tide of
hunger in Denton and
whereas every resident and business in Denton can help
address hunger in our
community by donating food to these organizations by
dropping off donations
April the 18th through the 22nd throughout the city at
participating
businesses schools nonprofits and university locations
which are available
online and it served in dot org and so now therefore I
Chris Watts mayor of the
city of Denton Texas do hereby proclaim April the 25th 2016
as concern for the
hunger day in the city of Denton and ask the citizens of
Denton to join me in
donating food to or volunteering for these organizations
within our
community that are serving those in need so thank you so
much for what you guys
do and your organizations and all the organizations in the
city and how much
did we have last year right at 30,000 pounds 30,000 pounds
we looked to do
better than that this year thank you all very much
every citizen and business participate every citizen and
business participate
we go on next to our agenda item 3 which is public hearings
3a is hold the second
of two public hearings for annexation of approximately 23.
24 acre property
generally located on the weast west side of Gisling Road
reading too fast
approximately 700 feet south of Eastern University Drive US
380 this is a public
hearing so I would now open the public hearing thank you
mayor and because this
is the second of two public hearings miss Bissett is going
to make a very
brief presentation and I'd like to ask our director of
development services to
do that thank you Amy it will be very brief this is a the
second public
hearing to consider a voluntary annexation the applicant is
Randall
Smith it is will be annexed as RDX I'm sorry RD 5x and then
the applicant will
come back in and ask for a rezoning this is part of the
2010 annexation plan and
this property has an existing non annexation agreement on
it until 2020
but because there is an intent to develop the owner is
requesting
annexation so that development can occur and the first
reading of the ordinance
will take place on May 3rd and the second reading on June 7
th and I'm happy
to answer any questions that you may have any questions of
staff all right
thank you this is a public hearing anybody wishing to speak
on this agenda
item please come down state your name and address your time
will begin
anybody wishing to speak on this item seeing no one I will
now close the
public hearing and there's no action to be taken on this
public hearing agenda
item agenda item 3b is hold the second of two public
hearings to consider
annexing eight properties identified by the following
property
identification numbers we've got DH 3 and several listed
there and so I will now
open the public hearing this is again the second of two
public hearings but
each of the properties identified here have been there have
been non annexation
agreements approved by the council for those so there but
the public hearing is
on here in case there are anybody in the public wants to
speak to this item we do
not have a presentation I don't think planned for the
public hearing and I
have no cards so in essence all of these properties listed
for annexation all
have non annexation agreements therefore not requiring or
extending their non
annexation agreements right all of the properties do have
non annexation
agreements we last week at the first public hearing gave
the public an
opportunity to make any comment they chose to make we did
have one speaker
last week upon the closure of this public hearing we will
not be bringing
back an annexation ordinance because of those non annex
ation agreements so we
can take public comment if there is any but there will be
no further action
until 2020 when those non-accession agreements expire okay
this is a public
hearing anybody wishing to speak on this item please come
down state your name
address and your time will begin this is a public hearing
anybody wishing to
speak seeing none we will now close the public hearing no
action be taken on
that agenda item brings us to our concluding items agenda
item number four
concluding items council members any concluding items for
this council
meeting
seeing none thank you we've reached the conclusion of our
agenda so we will now
adjourn
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