1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,920 Okay, it is nine o'clock and we have a forms are called to order the public utilities board 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,980 meeting for the city of Denton for July 12 2021. 3 00:00:13,980 --> 00:00:19,520 The first item is presentations from the public is anyone in the audience that wishes to speak? 4 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,640 Okay, do we have anybody on the phone? 5 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,480 No, chair, there is nobody on the phone for this meeting. 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:27,480 Okay, thank you. 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,440 Then the next item is the consent agenda. 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:35,760 Does any board member wish to pull an item from A through I? 9 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:42,480 Okay, Barbara is pulling H and then you have your hand up. 10 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:50,880 Let's see a a C and D and D will be quick questions. 11 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:51,880 Okay. 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:52,880 Nothing from Devon. 13 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:53,880 Nothing from Billy. 14 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:54,880 Okay. 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:01:07,960 Is there a motion to approve items B, E, F, G, and I move approval and a second second 16 00:01:07,960 --> 00:01:08,960 and been seconded. 17 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:09,960 All in favor. 18 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:10,960 Say aye. 19 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:11,960 Aye. 20 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:12,960 Negative. 21 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:13,960 That carries. 22 00:01:13,960 --> 00:01:14,960 Okay. 23 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:15,960 Item A. 24 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:20,080 We have somebody for them. 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,080 Okay. 26 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:29,200 So I'm gonna ask Brad Watts, he's our superintendent to come up here and respond to you. 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:30,200 Morning. 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:36,040 So I guess I'm curious, so regarding all the replacement of poles and inspection of poles 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:43,240 and such, how often do they need to be inspected and how often might they have any kind of 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,240 issue? 31 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:51,120 The inspection process can vary from five years, six, seven years, and it's been quite 32 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:57,080 some time since we've actually done a pole inspection and so with my department in engineering, 33 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,920 we started a pole inspection process and we really wanted to get a start date. 34 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:08,720 And so we're gonna inspect the entire infrastructure of all our wood poles, concrete poles, and 35 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,040 even steel poles. 36 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,560 Some utilities might do it, you know, broken up in quarters or however, and that's what 37 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:20,720 our goal will be is after we get all the poles inspected, then we have a starting point and 38 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,980 then we will start doing them on a quarterly basis then. 39 00:02:24,980 --> 00:02:27,960 What sort of issues might you encounter? 40 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:33,400 The main issues you're gonna find is gonna be ground rot and just the age of the pole. 41 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:40,000 And you know, we've still got some aging poles out there, but the main thing is below ground 42 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,280 level and then also you get like just mother nature of lightning strikes that we don't 43 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:50,160 know that's hit the pole and you know might have burned parts of the pole out or something 44 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,080 to that effect. 45 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,080 Okay. 46 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,080 All right. 47 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,080 Any other questions? 48 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,640 Do we have a motion to approve item A? 49 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:00,640 Move approval. 50 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:01,640 Second. 51 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:02,640 Second. 52 00:03:02,640 --> 00:03:03,640 All in favor say aye. 53 00:03:03,640 --> 00:03:04,640 Aye. 54 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:05,640 Carries. 55 00:03:05,640 --> 00:03:09,360 Item C. That was you two right there. 56 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:10,360 Yes. 57 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:17,960 And Brad will handle this one as well. 58 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,840 Okay. 59 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,880 Okay so I might have missed it. 60 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,360 Maybe I wasn't just didn't understand. 61 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:33,360 So is this to do active maintenance now or is kind of planning for the future for replacing 62 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,520 lights on I-35? 63 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:36,520 It's gonna be a little bit of both. 64 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,960 The majority though is gonna be the maintenance side of it. 65 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:46,000 Poles getting knocked down, lights going out, and we've actually encountered some theft 66 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,960 where they've actually stole the wire out of there. 67 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:55,040 And then part of it, you know, TxDOT's fixing to do another project in Denton and so that 68 00:03:55,040 --> 00:04:00,720 could involve some of that and then also we've got the LED light project because the lights 69 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:06,880 that are on 35 now are majority HPS lights and they'll be as we're moving forward, when 70 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:12,360 we have a light go out, we will change it out with an LED and over a process and then 71 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,880 get them all changed out. 72 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:14,880 Okay. 73 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:15,880 Thank you. 74 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:16,880 Any other questions? 75 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:17,880 All right. 76 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,840 Do we have a motion to approve item C? 77 00:04:20,840 --> 00:04:21,840 So moved. 78 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:22,840 And a second? 79 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:23,840 Second. 80 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:24,840 Or a seconded. 81 00:04:24,840 --> 00:04:26,840 All in favor say aye. 82 00:04:26,840 --> 00:04:27,840 Aye. 83 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:29,600 And that's moved. 84 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,900 Item D. Okay. 85 00:04:32,900 --> 00:04:36,280 Good morning. 86 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:39,400 It's the Ben show today, sorry. 87 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:45,640 So if I read that right, it looks like the current contract ended two days ago? 88 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:46,640 Is that correct? 89 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:47,640 On the 10th. 90 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:48,640 Yes. 91 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:49,640 So today is the 12th. 92 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:50,640 The 12th. 93 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,800 So what does that mean for us right now? 94 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:59,880 Right now it means that basically they're not to be doing any consulting work for us 95 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:03,120 as part of a new permit or a permit for expansion. 96 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,520 So how does that impact the city? 97 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,120 It does not do anything right now because the permit is in the executive director's 98 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,200 office waiting for his signature. 99 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:18,000 It has been remanded back from the SOA, administrative law judge, and we're just waiting for his 100 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,720 signature and then that could happen anywhere from two days to about two weeks and then 101 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,600 once that happens then there's some stuff on the back end that we're going to need them 102 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:26,600 to do. 103 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:27,600 Okay. 104 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,600 To help us along. 105 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,600 So right now, I mean, if it could have hit at any other time it might have impacted us 106 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,640 a little bit but it's really opportune time right now. 107 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:34,640 Good deal. 108 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:35,640 Thank you. 109 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:36,640 Okay. 110 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:37,640 Thank you. 111 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:38,640 Any other questions? 112 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:39,640 All right. 113 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,480 Do we have a motion to approve Item D? 114 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,480 So moved. 115 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:43,480 And a second? 116 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,480 Second. 117 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:45,480 Thank you, Billy. 118 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,480 All in favor say aye. 119 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:48,480 Aye. 120 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,480 Opposed? 121 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:50,480 It's approved. 122 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,480 Thank you, Brian. 123 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,720 Okay, and Item H, that was Barbara. 124 00:05:54,720 --> 00:06:04,500 I just had a question, who is currently, who are we dealing with on the banks? 125 00:06:04,500 --> 00:06:05,500 Here comes Cassie. 126 00:06:05,500 --> 00:06:09,520 Cassie Ogden is coming up, she's the director of finance. 127 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,880 Good morning. 128 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,560 We're currently using Wells Fargo. 129 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,000 That has been our bank for several years now. 130 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,400 Okay. 131 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,680 It looks like it's a pretty good deal. 132 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,880 Yes, we have a good working relationship with Wells Fargo. 133 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,880 We haven't had any issues. 134 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:32,800 We did have two other bidders but just really came down to price and probable performance. 135 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:33,800 Right. 136 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:34,800 Okay. 137 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:35,800 Thank you very much. 138 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:36,800 You're welcome. 139 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:37,800 Move approval. 140 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:38,800 And do we have a second? 141 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:39,800 Second. 142 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:40,800 All in favor say aye. 143 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:41,800 Aye. 144 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:42,800 Opposed? 145 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,800 That one carries. 146 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:53,440 Next item is consider approval of the June 28th, 2021 minutes. 147 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,480 Do we have any changes or corrections to those minutes? 148 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:57,480 No. 149 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,040 Do we have a motion to approve? 150 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:05,120 Move approval. 151 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,120 Thank you, Billy. 152 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,120 And a second? 153 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:08,120 Second. 154 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,120 All in favor say aye. 155 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,120 Aye. 156 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,000 And you weren't here? 157 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,000 Yeah. 158 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,000 Okay. 159 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,000 Thank you. 160 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,080 There is two. 161 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,160 Items for individual consideration. 162 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,480 Consider recommending the adoption of an ORNS for the City of Denton, a Texas Home Rule 163 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,920 Municipal Corporation authorizing the city manager or their designee to execute a contract 164 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:36,520 with USIC Locating Services LLC for locating and marking all existing and future installed 165 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:41,280 utility lines for Denton Municipal Electric and the fiber, water, and wastewater departments 166 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:48,960 providing for the expenditure of funds therefore and providing an effective date RFP 7672 awarded 167 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:54,840 to the USIC Locating Services LLC for three years with the option for two additional one-year 168 00:07:54,840 --> 00:08:00,400 extensions and the total five-year not to exceed amount of $4,500,000. 169 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:01,400 Okay. 170 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:11,000 I have a little presentation to talk about the underground utility locating and when 171 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,940 we first started doing it with contractors it was the electric department only based 172 00:08:14,940 --> 00:08:24,040 off of the needs from the electric department and how many and then did it share? 173 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:35,960 Sorry about that, I thought I had it. 174 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:41,640 But now we're involving fiber optics has also been located by a contractor and now water 175 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:57,160 and wastewater will start utilizing a contractor. 176 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,480 As you know, in the state of Texas, you know, everybody hears the term, you know, call before 177 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:02,480 you dig. 178 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:09,040 It used to be Dig Test and now it's Texas 811 and Denton County is one of the fastest 179 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:15,000 growing counties in the state of Texas and then many types of the utilities in Denton 180 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:21,760 are, you know, buried underground underneath the streets, roadways, or right-of-ways, sanitary 181 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:29,200 and storm sewers, water, natural gas, oil pipelines, telephone, fiber optic, cable television, 182 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:35,760 traffic signal, electric power, so there's quite a bit of stuff buried in the ground. 183 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:40,680 These things are all protected under federal laws to prevent people from just going out 184 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:46,080 and digging, you know, and damaging or doing a strike on an underground line. 185 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:54,240 Anytime there is a hit on our lines, whether it be water, electric, of an unmarked or improper 186 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:59,320 marked line can result in, you know, serious injury, loss of service to customers, cost 187 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:05,840 of repairs, and loss of revenue, and, you know, until the repairs are made for all utilities 188 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:11,760 affected by an excavation strike. 189 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:17,600 The cost for us to do the city staff to perform a locate is approximately, depending upon 190 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:23,800 the department, it could be $50 to $100 an hour, which includes the labor and the vehicle 191 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,280 cost. 192 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:30,060 Depending on the locate also is a factor, you know, when you're doing hourly, paying 193 00:10:30,060 --> 00:10:36,080 an employee to do the locate, you know, based on the department performing the locate. 194 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:41,080 And then you've also got costs for the city staff to perform emergency locates after hours, 195 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:46,920 you know, in the event of a, you know, water line or gas line or electric line. 196 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,440 After hours we have to call a locate, so do the contractors that are coming out to fix 197 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,060 the lines. 198 00:10:52,060 --> 00:10:58,480 And then a cost for, this can range anywhere from $100 to $200 an hour, based on the length 199 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:04,160 of the locate and things like that, after hours and over time. 200 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:12,440 Cost for a contractor on the current contract that we're on right now is $12.04 per locate. 201 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:19,380 And then for the fiber locate it's $10.20 per ticket for each locate. 202 00:11:19,380 --> 00:11:24,000 And then the locate prices are the same. 203 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,480 Due to the high volume of daily locate requests, which it's indenting as we're growing, it's 204 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,720 just getting more and more and more. 205 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:37,660 It would require additional staff specifically designated to perform locates should a decision 206 00:11:37,660 --> 00:11:44,000 made to revert back to in-house locate services. 207 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,840 And on this page, you know, the locate costs, and you'll see a difference in electric locate 208 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,320 cost and then a water locate cost. 209 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,920 And one of the main reasons is we go all the way up into the meter base in the yard. 210 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,640 So the locate has to also do in the street, the right of ways, but also up into the customer's 211 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,480 yard for the customer service. 212 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,360 Water, you know, they're mainly in the street. 213 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:13,800 Once you leave the meter, then up in the yard, then that becomes the property owner's responsibility. 214 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,460 So that's one of the areas that reduces some of the costs for water. 215 00:12:18,460 --> 00:12:21,720 And then fiber, they pretty much stay the same throughout there. 216 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,520 I mean, the fiber network is what it is. 217 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:29,640 It's not growing as much as the water and electric because, I mean, they have their 218 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,220 own little gridded area. 219 00:12:34,220 --> 00:12:39,480 And then in locates, you see in 2018, they fluctuate up and down. 220 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:44,120 There's many things that can affect, you know, how many locates you're going to have in a 221 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,120 year. 222 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:52,940 What the economy's doing, I'll give you an example as far as when, like, one of the telecommunication 223 00:12:52,940 --> 00:12:59,080 companies want to come in, and for example, Viles, when they came in denting with Viles, 224 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,680 they were digging in everybody's yard. 225 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:04,960 So our locates just, you know, went through the roof, but then once we got past that, 226 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:05,960 then it went back down. 227 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,720 So it can fluctuate up and down. 228 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:14,120 Water stays right there with us pretty close, and then fiber, you know, again, fiber is 229 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,800 what it is. 230 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,860 They don't have as much. 231 00:13:19,860 --> 00:13:21,340 And this is an example. 232 00:13:21,340 --> 00:13:25,160 When somebody digs and they don't have locates, this was actually out in front of Bonnebrae 233 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,160 substation. 234 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:32,120 This took out three circuits, and so -- and they didn't have proper locates. 235 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:37,480 They had locates, but then when they started excavating, they removed the locates in a 236 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:42,520 new company -- or the same company, I apologize -- the same company came back to work. 237 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:48,680 The lines were moved, or the marks were erased because of digging, and then they actually 238 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:53,640 hit three circuits, so we had a, you know, major outage of three circuits on that side 239 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:54,640 of town. 240 00:13:54,640 --> 00:14:00,920 It can be very costly when somebody don't -- when they don't call for locates. 241 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,600 And in our direction, you know, we're seeking approval for a contract of underground utility 242 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:10,040 electric -- utility electric and fiber line locating services for the city of Denton and 243 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:19,160 award USIC locating services LSE in a three-year, with the option two additional one-year extensions 244 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:25,400 and the total of a five-year contract not to exceed $4.5 million. 245 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,760 And the main reason to try and put this much money on this contract is we don't know what's 246 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:31,760 coming. 247 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,960 We know that we've got 100 coal ranches that's going to hit, and when that does, the locates 248 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,040 are just going to go crazy for water and electric. 249 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,080 And then whatever else is coming down, you know, Denton is the -- it's one of the fastest 250 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,280 growing counties in Texas, and we want to be prepared for it. 251 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,360 And I'll answer any questions. 252 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:52,360 >> Any questions? 253 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,760 Yes, Barbara, go ahead. 254 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,720 >> Are they going to go back and start from the beginning to log them? 255 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:05,600 You said some of them were marked properly, so will they be locating? 256 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,160 Will this be comprehensive for the city? 257 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,520 >> I guess I don't -- I'm not understanding your question. 258 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:13,520 >> Okay. 259 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,520 You commented that sometimes they've -- the lines have been improperly located. 260 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:24,240 Are they going to check, go back and check so that we will have, during the course of 261 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,240 this contract, all of these things located within our city? 262 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,680 >> Well, locates are only -- and I made an improper statement. 263 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,560 I think I misled you on that. 264 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,680 It wasn't that it was improperly marked. 265 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:41,200 They marked the lines, but then while they were digging with the big excavators, the 266 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:46,160 lines were moved when they took the dirt up, and then it's their responsibility to call 267 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:52,640 us to let us know that we've damaged our -- the locates, we can't see where the lines are, 268 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:53,640 we'll go out. 269 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:58,520 Our -- actually our service trucks and water department also will go out right then and 270 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:04,520 re-mark, if not the contractor, to make sure that the lines are identified and marked. 271 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:09,920 Was that -- I guess I misled -- I said the wrong thing, and I guess that you took that 272 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:10,920 from that. 273 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:11,920 >> Yeah. 274 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:17,580 Barbara, I think what Brad's saying is that when that second crew from that same company, 275 00:16:17,580 --> 00:16:22,520 when they came back the next day, they should have called in a line locate, and they didn't. 276 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,680 And that's what he meant by not being properly marked. 277 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:25,680 >> Okay. 278 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:26,680 >> Yes, ma'am. 279 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:27,680 >> Okay. 280 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,900 So we can re-mark the lines immediately right then. 281 00:16:31,900 --> 00:16:34,480 >> And this does not displace any employees. 282 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,720 This is because we can't handle the work. 283 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:37,720 >> Correct. 284 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:38,720 >> Okay. 285 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,720 Any other questions? 286 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:46,280 >> What liability does the line locate company have for correctly locating these -- any lines 287 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,280 that you say about to locate? 288 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,560 >> They can be 100% liable if they improperly mark, which, you know, there's clauses in 289 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,200 the contract where they can, you know, they can argue it and everything, but they are 290 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,200 100% liable. 291 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,680 So if they mismark or if they don't mark. 292 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:04,320 So we can't go back to them for, you know, for all costs, the damages and everything. 293 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:05,320 >> Okay. 294 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:06,320 >> Okay. 295 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:07,320 Oh, yes, go ahead, Desmond. 296 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:13,520 >> So I'm noticing in the presentation you had costs for 2020 and number of locates for 297 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:14,520 2020. 298 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:22,080 It looks like it was $460,000 total cost and then about 50 -- a little over 50,000 locates, 299 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,080 55,000 locates. 300 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,080 So that's like $9 a locate in cost. 301 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:32,360 >> The current contract, we're at $12 and I'm speaking for electric, it's $12.04 and 302 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:35,360 then fiber is $10.85. 303 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:39,920 On the current contract we're in right now, do you have the price for the new contracts? 304 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,680 If not, I can give them to you. 305 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:47,520 >> Yeah, they're in here, but I'm just doing that math, it seems like the 2020 actual costs 306 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,200 were lower than the proposed contract. 307 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,280 And they can fluctuate up and down depending on one of the things that affected some of 308 00:17:55,280 --> 00:18:00,400 that would have been COVID because there were contractors that weren't working and then, 309 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:09,840 you know, based off call volume how many people need locates versus, you know, 19, 2020, 2021. 310 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:21,160 >> Yeah, so just looking at just the water, $134,000 for 23,000 locates. 311 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,200 So that's $6 a locate that we performed ourselves? 312 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,920 >> No, I see there's different parts of the line locate contract. 313 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:33,600 You've got your locate for just a normal locate that you go out and then you have an after 314 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:40,400 hours locate and so that's going to entail all that and then you also have another price 315 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:45,600 that's thrown in there as far as when a locator, they keep having to come back over and over 316 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:51,240 and over and over, they will call that a project rate. 317 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:56,200 Since they're coming back out there so many times, they've moved to a different rate because 318 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,600 they're going to spend, you know, three or four hours out there locating something so 319 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,760 then they charge us a locate so that it's not broken down but that, you know, that involves 320 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:08,320 all those prices. 321 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,200 >> Thank you. 322 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,200 >> Any other questions? 323 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:17,040 All right, do we have a motion to approve this item? 324 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,040 >> Moved. 325 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,040 >> Second. 326 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:29,160 >> Well, actually Ben moved first so Billy, you're the second. 327 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,440 All in favor say aye. 328 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:31,440 >> Aye. 329 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,440 >> Aye. 330 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:33,440 >> Opposed? 331 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,440 Thank you. 332 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:35,440 Thank you. 333 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:36,440 Management reports. 334 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:37,440 Mr. Palenty. 335 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,720 >> So Madam Chair, members of the PB. 336 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,880 So we have a couple of items here for you. 337 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:49,240 The first one is a memo from our finance department regarding the series 21 utility system revenue 338 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,040 refunding bonds. 339 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:59,360 Cassie Ogden is here with us if anyone has any questions on that particular memo. 340 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:00,360 >> Questions from the board? 341 00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:06,840 Go ahead, Mr. Taylor. 342 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:07,840 >> So I'm new up here. 343 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,640 So I don't know if this has already been covered. 344 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:15,400 I was wondering if we had an idea of what the likely impact will be over the next-- over 345 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,440 the 30-year term to rate payers. 346 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,440 >> That's a good question. 347 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:20,440 >> Good morning. 348 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:28,360 So we did a presentation at the last PB meeting on the electric performa and the rate impact. 349 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:31,520 Right now we are not projecting to increase rates. 350 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:36,880 That's one of the reasons we wanted to do the refunding and spread that cost over 30 351 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:42,000 years so that it wasn't a one, you know, one hit in one year to the rate payers. 352 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,240 But we have a lot of uncertainties right now with the electric fund. 353 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:53,540 We have an outstanding full case rate filing for our transmission cost of revenue which 354 00:20:53,540 --> 00:20:58,740 could impact the revenue that we receive on our transmission costs or assets. 355 00:20:58,740 --> 00:21:03,000 And then we also have a cost of service study that's currently outstanding. 356 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,640 So we didn't want to bring a rate increase forward and then have a cost of service study 357 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,320 done that could potentially impact the rates. 358 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:16,160 So we're projecting to bring back rate discussions in December. 359 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,160 >> OK. 360 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,160 Thank you. 361 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,160 >> OK. 362 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:25,840 So the next item that we have here for you is I think it's a follow-up memo from our 363 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:30,360 purchasing compliance area for the north-south main project. 364 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:36,220 It was a tender agreement that Christine Taylor, our director over that area is here if anyone 365 00:21:36,220 --> 00:21:39,920 has any questions. 366 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:40,920 >> Questions on the memo? 367 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:41,920 I see none. 368 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:42,920 >> OK. 369 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:51,640 And then the final two items are just our feature agenda items, you know, and Nick will be talking 370 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:58,400 a little bit more again with you about the schedule for the budget and in final approval 371 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:04,360 or recommendation to the council from the board, not just on the budgets for the utilities 372 00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:10,520 but also on the individual rate ordinances, those will be coming to you as well. 373 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:15,840 And then the last item is on the new business action items, obviously we still have a couple 374 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:21,040 of items that are still on here, one for solid waste, one for DME. 375 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,360 And then as you know, the governor did call it a special session. 376 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:30,440 And even though there was no specific item on his agenda for electric, I can tell you 377 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:31,440 that there is a hearing. 378 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:37,720 I think the hearing is actually today that's being had on various electric-related issues. 379 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,400 And so we're going to wait until probably the end of the legislative session to come 380 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:47,600 back to you and kind of give you a synopsis of all the activities and any impacts that 381 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:48,880 we may have on the utilities. 382 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,760 But with that, if there's any questions on these items or if there's something else that 383 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,720 you'd like to be added on there, just let me know. 384 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:56,720 Okay. 385 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,720 Thank you. 386 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:58,720 Yes, Berman. 387 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,400 Do we have someone monitoring the bills that might potentially affect? 388 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,400 Yes, ma'am. 389 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:09,480 So we have, the city has a contract with two lobbyists, Jackson Walker on the general government 390 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:14,280 side that handles the majority of the city and then we have focus advocacy that handles 391 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,840 just DME-related items. 392 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:22,640 And so there's certainly the lobbyists that are keeping in touch with what's going 393 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,480 on, but we have a number of different staff members across the city for DME. 394 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:33,320 Terry Nolte has been very active in that area for us and will continue to do that, not just 395 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,360 with the legislature, but also with the PUCT and RCOT as well. 396 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:38,360 Thank you. 397 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:39,360 Yes, ma'am. 398 00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:40,360 All right. 399 00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:42,700 Then we're on to concluding items. 400 00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:47,880 This is the opportunity to make any public comments or add something to a future agenda 401 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,880 item. 402 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,920 Does anybody have something? 403 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,400 I'd like to welcome Devin Taylor to the board and maybe just tell us a little bit about 404 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,400 yourself. 405 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,400 Sure. 406 00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,400 Thank you. 407 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,400 And how you got into this. 408 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,840 So I'm Devin Taylor, newly appointed today to the board. 409 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,120 I grew up in Denton County and graduated from Ryan High School and raising a family here 410 00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:15,320 in Denton and I look forward to serving our community and working with this board toward 411 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,880 long-term sustainability, reliability and quality of services as our city continues 412 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,360 to grow. 413 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:23,920 And I'm really excited to be here. 414 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:24,920 Welcome. 415 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:25,920 Okay. 416 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,000 The last item is our work session. 417 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,160 Receive a report and hold a discussion and give staff direction regarding the water, 418 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:38,640 wastewater, drainage, solid waste, electric and customer service fiscal year 2021-2022, 419 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,400 preliminary budget capital improvement program and five-year financial forecasts. 420 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,440 Good morning, Chair, PB members, Nick Vinson, Assistant Director of Finance. 421 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,880 Let me get the presentation pulled up really quick. 422 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:51,880 And welcome, Mr. Taylor. 423 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:58,480 We're definitely excited you're here to talk about the budget with us. 424 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:08,640 All right, before we get started, a brief introduction. 425 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,360 So I'm going to walk through the utility budget presentation. 426 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:15,560 After I get done, Crystal Foster, the customer service manager, can present her presentation. 427 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,760 So we're definitely excited that she's here with us today to present her budget. 428 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:20,760 She's done a great job. 429 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,640 And our staff, this fiscal year, putting it together. 430 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:28,960 So we're excited about that. 431 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,240 A little bit of history for the PB members that may not have been here last week, and 432 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,800 we did, or I guess it was two weeks ago, we did walk through the preliminary budget for 433 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,520 each of the utilities. 434 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,640 We looked at the operational information forum, what the goals and accomplishments were for 435 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:46,280 this previous year and this upcoming year, what the forecast looks like from the operational 436 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:57,720 standpoint and the capital standpoint, and then what those future steps are. 437 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,560 So the water financial assumptions, what we do, we typically tell the PB and the city 438 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:07,440 council how we do the revenue forecast from a volume standpoint and an expense standpoint. 439 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,200 So the volume forecast for the water utility, we currently do have a 2% growth forecast 440 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,680 in the out years. 441 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:18,240 We are looking at that 100 coal ranch development that Mr. Watts had mentioned earlier, starting 442 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,240 the fiscal year 2023. 443 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:25,400 So these utility performance do include financials from the operating standpoint and revenue standpoint 444 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,400 for that development. 445 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:32,600 Revenue is the 2% growth in the forecasted years, consistent with that volume forecast. 446 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,400 On the expense side, we currently do have a 3% growth forecast in the out years for expenses. 447 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,160 And then supplemental requests, and for any PB members that may not know, supplemental 448 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,080 requests are new packages that the utility is requesting. 449 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,720 So these could be new people, new initiatives the department wants to accomplish this coming 450 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:53,240 fiscal year, that we do consider those supplemental packages, that we do consider those separately. 451 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:58,120 For the water utilities, these did total $413,000. 452 00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:04,520 And then these requests are for increased materials costs, employee licenses, fire hydrant, 453 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:10,580 and line location services. 454 00:27:10,580 --> 00:27:14,160 So the water tenure forecast, I know there's a lot of numbers on this page, so I'm going 455 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,860 to walk through it fairly slowly. 456 00:27:15,860 --> 00:27:18,800 We did walk through it two weeks ago, but I want to make sure all the PB members are 457 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,260 familiar with what you're looking at. 458 00:27:21,260 --> 00:27:23,700 So what we do is we group the revenues up here at the top. 459 00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:25,640 You can see the water revenues. 460 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,560 We are currently in fiscal year 2021. 461 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,920 And the city's fiscal year does run from October 1st to September 30th of each year. 462 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,760 So we are about three quarters the way through the current fiscal year. 463 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,000 So we are currently in 2021's fiscal year. 464 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:45,160 You can see we had $49 million in revenues, $52.9 million in expenses. 465 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,520 So the adopted budget that was approved by both the PB and City Council this year had 466 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,680 use of reserves of $3.9 million. 467 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,820 We are forecasting coming a little bit better than that. 468 00:27:53,820 --> 00:27:59,600 So you can see our planned revenues of $48.7, with the expenses coming in at $51.5. 469 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,640 So actually only using about $2.8 million in reserves. 470 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,480 The preliminary budget, or what we're here talking to you today about, is in this column 471 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,480 right here. 472 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,540 We currently have revenues forecasted at $52.2 million. 473 00:28:13,540 --> 00:28:14,840 No planned use of reserves. 474 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:20,520 You can see the use of reserves in this pinkish tin column right here, or this row. 475 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:25,840 Expenses of $51.5, with a surplus or a net income of $686,000. 476 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,580 So I did want to walk you down to the bottom of the page a little bit and explain some 477 00:28:29,580 --> 00:28:31,280 of these other numbers. 478 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,920 You can see the Indian Water Fund balance. 479 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,340 So what this fund balance simply is, this is the operating reserve that this fund has 480 00:28:37,340 --> 00:28:42,020 on hand in case something was to happen from an operational standpoint or a rate standpoint 481 00:28:42,020 --> 00:28:44,560 to help minimize that impact to the rate base. 482 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,840 So definitely want to point that out to the PEB members. 483 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,960 Ending this upcoming fiscal year, we'd have about $20.2 million in that reserve. 484 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,680 The targets, so we do have a target for this utility, the minimum of 120 days, with a maximum 485 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:58,680 of 180 days. 486 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:04,600 So that minimum equates to about $16.5 million, with that maximum being $24.8. 487 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,720 A couple other numbers on this page I want to point out to you, the impact fee capital 488 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:09,720 reserve. 489 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,840 We currently have $9 million segregated into that account, and we'll talk a little bit 490 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,720 about that here in just a second. 491 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,320 The impact fee reserve, this is the rest of the impact fee money that's available. 492 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,480 If something was to come up with growth and growth was to stop, we can mitigate some of 493 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,800 that impact to the rate base. 494 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,040 Development plan lines, these are from big developments coming into the community, and 495 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,480 we're currently looking at these funds and how we can use these moving forward. 496 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,640 So going back up the page here, a couple of things I want to point out to you is when 497 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:41,600 you get out here into the future year, starting in fiscal year 2024 through 2027, you can 498 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:48,760 see we do have the net income, so about $800,000 in 2024, $5.5 million in 2025, and $4 million 499 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,480 in '26, and then $1.3 million in '27. 500 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,400 So we are working to build up that fund balance as we get out there in the future years, and 501 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:01,360 really ramping up to help offset that cost of that lake expansion that's coming up in 502 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,640 2027, 2028. 503 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:09,120 So when you see the increase from 16.5 to 21.3, that is that lake expansion project 504 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,320 at Lake Ray Roberts, about $90 million. 505 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,880 So our thought process is to ramp up that operating reserve to help offset that debt 506 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,120 service. 507 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,600 Going back down here to the impact fee capital reserve, that $9 million I pointed out to 508 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,960 you earlier, it does go away in 2024. 509 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:29,580 The reason for that is we do plan to cash fund the design of that lake expansion project. 510 00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:39,400 So $90 million for construction, about $9 billion for the design of that project. 511 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,400 Assumptions for wastewater. 512 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,560 I don't have to read each one of these to you. 513 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,160 This is basically the same as water. 514 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,720 We have the 2% growth forecast on the volume side, the 2% growth forecast on the revenues. 515 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,840 Expenses, we have the 3% growth forecast in the out years, and those supplemental packages, 516 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:58,120 those new initiatives this utility is looking to do is about $701,000. 517 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:03,000 Those initiatives do make up of material costs, employee licenses, fire hydrant maintenance, 518 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:09,280 and some line location and street cut dollars. 519 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,360 So 10-year forecast for wastewater is very similar. 520 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,920 The only differences is mostly just the numbers and the color on the page. 521 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,660 So this one is in orange just to make it stand out from water. 522 00:31:18,660 --> 00:31:23,360 So in fiscal year 2021, this is the adopted budget that we're currently in right now. 523 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:33,120 You can see 31.2 million or 31.1, 37.1 in revenues, and then 36.9 in expenses, so 292,000 524 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,120 positive. 525 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,920 So basically, we did have a balanced budget this current fiscal year that we're in. 526 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:46,080 Ending this year, you can see we have 37.1 in revenues, 36.4 in expenses, about $700,000 527 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,760 positive in net income. 528 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,200 So this reserve, this fund is definitely looking good this fiscal year. 529 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,200 The preliminary 2022, moving into this year's column that we're talking about now, and ultimately 530 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,480 we'll seek your approval for next month. 531 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:04,800 We have revenue of $38.6 million, that makes that number right here, and then $37.9 million 532 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:11,840 in expenses, about $653,000 in net income, with the ending fund balance by $15.7 million. 533 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,480 And then the targets are right here below. 534 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,640 So you can see the minimum is 100 days, with the maximum being 140 days, so that minimum 535 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:25,200 equates to about 11.5 as a value, and then $16.2 million on the maximum. 536 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,400 We do have an impact fee reserve in the wastewater fund, similar to water, and it's currently 537 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,400 $9.5 million. 538 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,360 And then we have a drainage reserve we call out separate, and we'll talk about drainage 539 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,640 here shortly, and a development plan line just for those large developments coming into 540 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,640 the community. 541 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,080 So we are looking at that million dollars, and how can we best utilize it in this utility. 542 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,680 In the future years, I do want to point out a couple of things, a little bit different 543 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,360 than the other utilities on water in the 10-year forecast, we were not showing any rate increases 544 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:56,480 for the entire 10-year period in wastewater, starting in fiscal year 2029, so it is several 545 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,020 years out still. 546 00:32:58,020 --> 00:33:02,280 We do have some 1% rate increases plugged in in 2029 and 2030. 547 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,320 So we do anticipate within the 10-year period that this utility will be some rate increases 548 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,320 in the future. 549 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,320 So I just want to make sure we pointed that out to the PVB, and put that on your radar. 550 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:17,080 So this is a drainage 10-year forecast. 551 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,320 Drainage is ultimately a department, or an HBU, is what we call an HBU in the finance 552 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,120 department of wastewater. 553 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,280 This also rolls up into the proforma that you just saw a minute ago, but drainage is 554 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,800 supported, or the drainage operation within wastewater is supported by drainage revenue 555 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,080 in the community. 556 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,800 So residents and commercial businesses pay those drainage fees, those impervious services 557 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,200 into this fund. 558 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:44,360 So fiscal year 2021 is the current budget that we're in, about $5.9 million in revenues, 559 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,260 $5.9 million in expenses. 560 00:33:46,260 --> 00:33:51,080 The majority of their budget is made up of channel rehab maintenance, and what that is, 561 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,200 the drainage channels that you see around the community is maintaining those, erosion, 562 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,560 mowing those, and so forth. 563 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,840 So the majority of the activity in this fund is for that purpose. 564 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:06,840 So preliminary budget, about $5.6 million in expenses. 565 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,120 Solid waste financial assumptions, very similar to the other utilities, we try to keep it 566 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,280 as consistent as possible when looking at the growth in the community. 567 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,560 Usually a resident or business comes in, they need water, wastewater, and solid waste service, 568 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,680 so the growth is pretty much the same. 569 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,160 On the revenue side, we have the 2% growth forecast in the out years. 570 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,120 We do have some anticipated wholesale agreements that are going to end in fiscal year 2023. 571 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,040 I'll talk about those shortly for some of the new PEB members that you'll know. 572 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,480 The Hunter Cole Ranch development does start showing up in 2023, and then we did put a 573 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,600 note on here for any PEB members that may not remember, or maybe you did, and the sale 574 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,760 construction in the current fiscal year, we did cash fund that development. 575 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:48,160 So it was moved from 2022 to 2021, we actually cash funded $6.5 million of that sale. 576 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,520 So great accomplishment with this fund, just want to make sure we pointed that out to the 577 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,520 board. 578 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:57,000 Supplemental request, currently this fund has 282,000 supplemental requests, made up 579 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:03,080 of 4.5 FTEs, was a field service worker too, heavy equipment operator, roll-off truck driver, 580 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:10,500 field services supervisor, and an intern, making up that .5. 581 00:35:10,500 --> 00:35:15,360 So we showed a five-year forecast for the solid waste fund, very similar to water and 582 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,160 wastewater, and I apologize, it's a little bit blurry, but we'll try to see it the best 583 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,160 we can here. 584 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:24,760 So in 2021, the current adopted budget that we're in, you can see revenues of $39.8 million, 585 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:32,440 numbers right here, with expenses of $44.1, so we did have an adopted budget of $4.3 million 586 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,480 in reserve usage. 587 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,760 The council and the PBB both did approve a 5% rate decrease in the current fiscal year 588 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,520 for residential customers, equated about a dollar, I believe six cents a month was the 589 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:44,520 decrease. 590 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,920 You can see the estimate we were planning to come in, about $38.5 million in revenues, 591 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,720 $43.4 million in expenses, about $4.8 million in reserve usage. 592 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:59,920 So really close to the budget, just a little bit more than what we originally adopted. 593 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:04,200 Moving into the preliminary budget, you can see their revenues of $39.8, with expenses 594 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:09,800 of $37.1 or $2, positive income of $2.7 million. 595 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,640 The majority of this swing of not using reserves is that sale development that I mentioned 596 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,640 earlier. 597 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,080 We're not building that sale this upcoming year, so we're maintaining that revenue within 598 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,840 the fund to offset expenses. 599 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,960 Moving down the pages, we're not forecasting rate increases or decreases for this utility. 600 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,840 We do have an operating fund balance about $8.9 million finishing this upcoming year 601 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,440 of 2022, adopted by PB and city council. 602 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,360 The targets are down here in this pink, you can see the minimum of 5.2 with the maximum 603 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,200 of 6.7 million. 604 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,800 So we are well within that target and actually stay within that target in each of the five 605 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,960 year period. 606 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,640 Moving back up to the front of the top of the page here, I want to point this out to 607 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:50,820 the board really quick. 608 00:36:50,820 --> 00:36:55,420 The wholesale agreements that I pointed out earlier, this forecast does not contemplate 609 00:36:55,420 --> 00:36:56,420 those being renewed. 610 00:36:56,420 --> 00:37:01,160 If the PB or city council gives us direction or gives, you know, Brian or Soloway's direction 611 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,200 to renew those contracts, this financial picture will change when we bring it back to you for 612 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,920 the 2023 budget discussion. 613 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,320 So just keep that in mind if those agreements are renewed, this entire financial picture 614 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:19,840 changes because you can't see that 6.2 million going away in 2023. 615 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,680 The electric financial assumptions, so I'll walk through these a little bit different 616 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:28,800 than water, wastewater, revenue and expenses, the average load growth of 1.5 million, looking 617 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,480 at the load within the community. 618 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,200 The T cost, allowable rate of return on investment, this is what Cassie had mentioned earlier, 619 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,680 this is still pending, so we have made some preliminary assumptions within the financial 620 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,680 forecast. 621 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:47,160 In fiscal year 2022, we're currently projecting 28.04% return on those transmission assets. 622 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:52,760 We do decrease this to 13.5% starting in fiscal year 2023, it's really to be proactive and 623 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,480 be conservative within this utility. 624 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,480 So we are making an assumption it's going to go down. 625 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,800 The return on investment of 6%, so this utility does pay a return on investment to the general 626 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,280 fund that ultimately makes its way to the streets fund that was increased a few years 627 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:12,440 ago when COVID hit I guess about a year and a half ago, it increased from 3.5% to 6%. 628 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,280 It is scheduled to decrease to 3.5% starting in fiscal year 2023. 629 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,680 So it will not stay at 6% unless we're directed for it to stay there. 630 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,720 Some more of the uncertainties that Cassie had mentioned earlier, the summer revenue 631 00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:27,080 forecast, we'll bring this back to you in December once we get through the hot period 632 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,800 of July and August and really see how this fund performs and how the debt performs. 633 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,480 The transmission cost or T cost revenue that I mentioned earlier, that cost of service 634 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:41,880 study that was mentioned earlier, and then the potential TMP mine sales also noted here. 635 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:47,480 The reserve levels, so our currently policy is 60 to 75 days, which is 16 to 21%. 636 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,880 We did bring a conversation forward to the PBN City Council. 637 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,160 When the winter storm had hit a couple months ago talking about this reserve requirement 638 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,880 for each of the utilities, the financial recommendation was to leave it alone for water, wastewater, 639 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,840 and solid waste, but to increase it for electric. 640 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,760 So that was the guidance we've gotten so far from the PBN City Council and if that continues 641 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,640 to be the guidance, we'll bring that back forward to you as part of the budget adoption 642 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,640 process. 643 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,280 So look forward to that coming forward here in the next couple of months. 644 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:18,160 Supplemental request, so the DME or electric fund includes about $400,000 in supplemental 645 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,160 request. 646 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:24,000 The major items is a senior business intelligent analyst, a line designer, and meteorologist 647 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,000 services. 648 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,600 If you have a question of those, Tony can speak to it or Terry Nolte or anybody that's 649 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,240 here if you have questions regarding the supplemental packages. 650 00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:33,720 The five-year forecast for the electric utility. 651 00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:40,920 So in 2021, you can see adopted revenues is $231.4 million in revenues, about $231.1 million 652 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:41,920 in expenses. 653 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,040 So we basically had a break-even budget in the current budget year. 654 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,160 We didn't use any reserves or anything. 655 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,160 You can see the estimate. 656 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,720 We have estimated revenue of $344.8 million. 657 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:55,960 That is above what we are budgeted, mainly due to the deck running during the winter 658 00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,600 storm and the revenue that it brought in to offset that purchase power expense. 659 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,080 Expenses of $337 million, which is above the budget. 660 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,060 We did bring a budget amendment forward for the electric utility earlier this year to 661 00:40:07,060 --> 00:40:10,080 offset those purchase power expenses of the winter storm also. 662 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,880 So that is the reason it's above the budget, just want to make sure we pointed that out. 663 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,520 So we showed net income, about $7.8 million is what we're forecasting, and that does anticipate 664 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,240 the rest of the summer months. 665 00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:27,120 In 2022, the preliminary budget, you can see we have $227.5 million in revenues, about 666 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:32,200 $226.6 million in expenses, so just about $940,000 in net income. 667 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,920 No rate increases are currently being proposed, as Cassie had mentioned. 668 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,440 Once we get through these hotter months in the summer, we'll bring it back to discussion 669 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,380 to you in December and talk about future rate increases if they're needed. 670 00:40:44,380 --> 00:40:49,440 So the current reserve target is $119.2 million, or $119.2 million is currently what we have 671 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,720 in the operating reserve and electric. 672 00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:55,120 What we did is we broke out the current reserve and the proposed. 673 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,440 So under the proposed reserve targets, we'll bring back forward to you or continue to bring 674 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,480 back forward to you in the budget discussions. 675 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:06,080 The minimum would be $104.2 million, with the maximum being $156.3 million. 676 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,040 So we are within that target in the current year. 677 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:14,320 As we go in the future years, and you can see we do dip below that target to $72.5 million. 678 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,040 So that would really feed into that conversation regarding future rate increases as we come 679 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,840 back to PAB. 680 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,680 The current reserve target, what was currently in place is the minimum is $36.2, but the 681 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,400 maximum $47.5. 682 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:31,200 So simply the current operating reserve is within the target that's currently in place. 683 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:37,840 But if we were to change that target in the future years, we would be below it. 684 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,120 The capital budgets, we'll go through these quickly. 685 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,960 And then definitely if you need more detail, in your backup today, there was what we consider 686 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,480 a mini budget book. 687 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,720 What that is, it's just an operational line item budget for each of the departments within 688 00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:50,720 each of the utilities. 689 00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:56,280 So for water, wastewater, solid waste, and electric, and also included their capital projects. 690 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,880 Definitely let us know if you have questions on that. 691 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,080 So this is the water five-year capital plan. 692 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,800 We do summarize it by different debt issuances. 693 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:09,840 So in fiscal year 2022, for example, you can see we have $41 million in debt issuance plan 694 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,380 for this utility. 695 00:42:11,380 --> 00:42:15,240 Revenue funding, so it's funded by that rate revenue of the operating fund, about $9.9 696 00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:16,240 million. 697 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:19,440 Aiding construction, $265,000. 698 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:24,720 Impact fee funding, so revenue funding of impact fee eligible projects, about $3.5 million. 699 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:28,760 Also some vehicle replacement, a cash fund in those vehicles within this utility of $300,000. 700 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:39,680 So total capital program in 2022 is about $55.1 million in the upcoming year. 701 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,400 These are some of the major projects within water. 702 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,600 This is not an exhaustive list, but we did want to provide you the major projects that 703 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,600 are coming up. 704 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,640 So you can see the north missed transmission lines of $14.9 million. 705 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,840 The Ray Roberts capacity rerate of 11. 706 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,880 You can see 2019 bond election projects of $3.2 million. 707 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,280 That's to support those bond elections or the street segments that were approved by 708 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,320 voters a couple of years ago. 709 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,720 Annual field service replacements, so existing line replacements. 710 00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:10,400 And Lake Lizzle treatment plan expansion of $2.5 million. 711 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,360 So total of these projects is about $38.5 million, so making up about three quarters 712 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,840 or 80% of that total capital plan. 713 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,200 Wastewater five-year capital projects, same thing here. 714 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,880 You can see debt funded projects for the wastewater utility, very similar to water, $40.1 million 715 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,380 in projects for the debt side. 716 00:43:28,380 --> 00:43:32,520 Revenue funding about $5 million, aid in construction of $82,000. 717 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,480 Impact fee funding a little bit less. 718 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,560 Eligible projects are not as many on the wastewater side, so about $250,000 in impact fee eligible 719 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:39,560 projects. 720 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,560 And the vehicle replacement, they have a few more vehicles being replaced, about $1.4 million. 721 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:51,960 So $46.9 million in total capital projects in fiscal year 2022. 722 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,760 And if I need to slow down or go back, just let me know, as fast as I can, get through 723 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:57,760 the presentation here. 724 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,320 Solid waste handling, so for the wastewater utility, they have a $14 million project coming 725 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,320 up this year. 726 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,320 It's phase one. 727 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,760 The design completion is July 2021. 728 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,640 Hickory Creek, the wastewater treatment plant land acquisition of $5.8 million, something 729 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,480 that's currently being worked on now. 730 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:18,000 Hickory Creek Interceptor 3 of $4 million, 2019 bond elections of being consistent across 731 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,760 the city with those projects, and then the field service replacements. 732 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,760 And then you can see the wastewater master plan. 733 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,280 One note I will make on the 2019 bond election program, one thing staff is doing differently 734 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,120 this year than we have in the past, is we're having cross-departmental meetings just to 735 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,280 ensure that what's in the wastewater and water utility is consistent with what engineering 736 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,280 is budgeting. 737 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,160 So if engineering's planning to replace the street, we're also on the water wastewater 738 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,720 side anticipating the same thing. 739 00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:46,880 So we just want to make sure we're consistent across the city. 740 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:47,880 This is CIP budget. 741 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,160 I'm sorry, this one is not labeled. 742 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,320 This is for the solid waste utility. 743 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,880 You can see they do issue different types of debt issuances. 744 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,820 So 20-year debt, about $2 million, five-year debt, about $483,000. 745 00:44:59,820 --> 00:45:04,080 Revenue funding, about $40,000, and vehicle replacement, by far, is their largest usual 746 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,360 capital project of the year, unless there's cell development, about $4.2 million. 747 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:12,120 And then you can see how it breaks down by different, just different type of projects. 748 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,840 You can see street, structural, vehicles, and then building construction, about a million. 749 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,080 So total, 6.7. 750 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:26,040 The electric utility, so you can see where the projects fit into the different categories. 751 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,180 You can see fiscal year 2022 in this column. 752 00:45:28,180 --> 00:45:33,400 Some of the major categories that you see is distribution substations, distribution transformers, 753 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,640 feeder extensions and improvements, new residential and commercial. 754 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,120 And then, of course, we've got the street lighting, and it's been talked about the last 755 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,120 couple of fiscal years, and then the electric relocations. 756 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,120 So distribution total, $34.4 million. 757 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:51,440 Then you can see some transmission lines and transmission substations for $24.5. 758 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,920 So total capital projects, and all this added up is $58.9 million. 759 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,040 We then take that number and divide how it's going to be funded through the utility. 760 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:05,840 It's about $4.4 million in aid and construction, $52.9 million in CO issuances, and then $1.7 761 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,680 million in revenue funding from the rate revenue within the utility. 762 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,120 So the five-year capital total is $215.9 million. 763 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,080 I think the question was asked last time we were at PUB about, you know, does the PUB 764 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,120 adopt each one of these five-year capital plans? 765 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,120 The answer is no. 766 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,400 The only thing we're looking for your adoption in August or your approval for is 2022. 767 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,320 So just keep that in mind when you look at this five-year plan. 768 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:33,320 It's for planning purposes, but you will only adopt the 2022 budget. 769 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:38,180 So next steps, the DME presentation is scheduled to go to City Council on July the 20th. 770 00:46:38,180 --> 00:46:41,280 Water and wastewater will be at the end of this month on July the 27th, along with solid 771 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,280 waste. 772 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:47,240 July 26th, probably should have put that before the 27th, but PUB will be looking for your 773 00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:51,100 approval for the budget and start the rate conversation. 774 00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:56,360 So the next meeting that PUB has will bring back the budgets for your approval to take 775 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,880 at the City Council, and then we'll start those rate conversations and start talking 776 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,120 about the rate structure itself. 777 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,280 August 2nd is the big City Council budget workshop where all the budgets in the city 778 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,680 will be talked about. 779 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:12,200 And then August 23rd, we'll come back to the PUB for that final rate approval. 780 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:18,240 And then September 21st, the City Council will adopt the budget, the tax rate, the utility 781 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:24,120 rates, and the capital plan for the utilities and the general fund. 782 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,880 And I'll take this presentation down and address any questions, and if there's operational 783 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,440 questions, the directors are here, too. 784 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,560 Just feel free to ask us anything you have for us today. 785 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:33,560 Questions? 786 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:42,880 You must have done a very good job. 787 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:50,760 Thank you. 788 00:47:50,760 --> 00:48:09,880 Madam Chair, Board Members, Krista Foster, Customer Service Manager, and I'm here today 789 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:17,920 to present the customer service budget for FY21-22. 790 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,400 So first, I'm going to give you an overview of our division. 791 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:27,480 We have 46 wonderful, dedicated members of our team, and this is just a quick layout 792 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,280 of that group. 793 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,800 As we move into talking about our budget, the first thing we're going to look at is 794 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:35,800 accomplishments. 795 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,280 I'm not going to read every one of these to you. 796 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,200 I believe that each of you can read. 797 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,620 But I do want to capitalize at least a couple of items off of each slide. 798 00:48:42,620 --> 00:48:46,400 The first thing that we're very proud of in customer service over the last year is we 799 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,320 have taken on agency assistance referrals for customers who have trouble paying their 800 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,640 utility bills. 801 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:58,200 So at this point in time, staff will identify that need and ask the customer if they would 802 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:04,960 like to have a referral to the agency, we'll fill out the basic screening intake paperwork, 803 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:09,920 provide that to the agency, we do a follow-up email to the customer with all of the requirements 804 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,940 that they're going to need to meet, and we give them a protected time window that their 805 00:49:14,940 --> 00:49:19,080 services will not see an eruption because they're in that process. 806 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,800 And we're working closely with the agency. 807 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,560 So if the agency is saying, "Hey, it's going to take a little longer," they're giving 808 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,400 us a contact to say, "Please continue to take care of this customer." 809 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,620 So we're very proud of that process. 810 00:49:30,620 --> 00:49:35,560 We actually have incorporated this so that the follow-up emails can be sent either in 811 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,480 English or in Spanish. 812 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,700 Additionally, we've offered translation services. 813 00:49:40,700 --> 00:49:45,080 I was very surprised that that was something with as diverse a community as Denton is with 814 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,880 the universities and things that we didn't offer. 815 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,400 Translation services by phone, so we now do. 816 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:56,560 So if someone calls in and English is not their first language, we can identify that, 817 00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:02,960 call a translator, and process a three-way call so that we can provide better assistance. 818 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,320 This is just a slide just because I wanted to brag on my guys. 819 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,800 We have in our Microsoft Teams group, we have a superstar channel, and that's where we do 820 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:11,800 shout-outs. 821 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,440 If customers say something great about people, the reps will go back in and say, "Hey, shout-out 822 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:17,440 to so-and-so. 823 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,020 This is what the customers are saying about you." 824 00:50:20,020 --> 00:50:27,760 And I know that as board members, you get to hear sometimes the less productive conversations, 825 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:33,560 but we want you to know that there are plenty of positives out there. 826 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:39,840 So again, we have accomplishments, nope, I went wrong way, our goals for next year. 827 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:44,240 Customer service has some pretty lofty goals coming up over the next year. 828 00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:49,680 The first of those is we are now actively working on the 311 implementation. 829 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,880 We are in the discovery process. 830 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:59,480 We are in the contract negotiation phase for a customer service software, customer relationship 831 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:05,440 management software, and we'll be implementing that over the next year. 832 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:11,040 Additionally, we will be coming back to you soon and talking about changing a payment 833 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,040 vendor. 834 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:16,040 We've had some problems with one of our payment vendors, and we've identified, we're putting 835 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:22,320 out an RFP to see if we can provide better services there, and we are in contract negotiations 836 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:27,080 for a new customer portal that will allow greater functionality. 837 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:32,280 Customers will be able to do things like truly set up and terminate services online. 838 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,680 Currently we offer terminations and moves, but they're self-service for the customer, 839 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,840 but they come in as an email and we have to process them manually. 840 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,080 So we'll be moving into things that will provide better automation and better efficiencies 841 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:50,580 and much greater scope of service for our customers. 842 00:51:50,580 --> 00:51:56,060 Process improvements, clearly we've got a lot of them, but the one that we're this year 843 00:51:56,060 --> 00:52:01,740 most proud of is that we implemented remote reconnections. 844 00:52:01,740 --> 00:52:05,840 So when a customer's service is interrupted and they call and take care of that payment, 845 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:11,300 we can actually go into the system and process it to have them turned on in 30 minutes or 846 00:52:11,300 --> 00:52:12,760 less. 847 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:17,240 That is for 90 plus percent probably of our customers at this point. 848 00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:21,000 Occasionally electronics have their issues and we have to actually send someone to a 849 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:26,640 site, but by and large we're getting those customers turned on faster than ever. 850 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:31,120 Next year we're going to be working, just like I mentioned before, on more automation 851 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:37,160 of our self-service and better efficiencies for customers and staff. 852 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:38,380 These are a few of our metrics. 853 00:52:38,380 --> 00:52:42,720 These are some metrics that we use to gauge how effective are we fiscally. 854 00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:47,260 So you can see that's what's our overhead cost versus the revenue that we're collecting 855 00:52:47,260 --> 00:52:54,040 for the organization, our collection rate versus what becomes uncollectible debt, self-service 856 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:58,560 adoption, because if we can get customers to be able to do some of the simpler things 857 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:03,420 on their own, it frees staff to dedicate the time that's necessary for those customers 858 00:53:03,420 --> 00:53:08,400 who really have those complex problems, and then first contact resolution. 859 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,520 We'll talk about that in just another moment going forward, because these are some of the 860 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,800 metrics that we use to gauge where are we and where are we going. 861 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,020 So the first thing you'll notice is we're seeing almost a 10% change over the last four 862 00:53:21,020 --> 00:53:23,920 years just in the number of accounts. 863 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:28,100 Over the last ten years, you know, it seems like it's a small amount, and I think it was 864 00:53:28,100 --> 00:53:34,260 only maybe 54,000 ten years ago, but that small change because we produce monthly bills 865 00:53:34,260 --> 00:53:40,200 means that billing staff is currently producing 170,000 more bills than they were ten years 866 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,200 ago. 867 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,060 So it's a lot of change even though it seems like a small number. 868 00:53:45,060 --> 00:53:50,260 The other is you can see that our call center volume has gone up dramatically. 869 00:53:50,260 --> 00:53:58,020 We're currently at the end of May, over 180,000 calls already this year with the busiest months 870 00:53:58,020 --> 00:53:59,260 left to go. 871 00:53:59,260 --> 00:54:05,200 We're anticipating reaching or exceeding 250,000 calls this year. 872 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,900 So we've seen a lot of change there. 873 00:54:07,900 --> 00:54:13,340 Again, first call resolution, and we also track our very satisfied and very dissatisfied 874 00:54:13,340 --> 00:54:16,820 customer bases for telling us how effective we are. 875 00:54:16,820 --> 00:54:21,340 First call resolution is obviously we don't want someone to have to call us 100 times, 876 00:54:21,340 --> 00:54:27,460 but the very satisfied, very dissatisfied, these are the people who drive our image in 877 00:54:27,460 --> 00:54:28,740 the community. 878 00:54:28,740 --> 00:54:32,140 And these numbers, all three of these are customer reported. 879 00:54:32,140 --> 00:54:35,860 At the end of every contact, the customer is given the opportunity to participate in 880 00:54:35,860 --> 00:54:37,500 a three-question survey. 881 00:54:37,500 --> 00:54:44,060 So this is what our customers are saying about our effectiveness. 882 00:54:44,060 --> 00:54:45,060 All right. 883 00:54:45,060 --> 00:54:49,180 So as we move into the budget highlights, first we are an internal service fund. 884 00:54:49,180 --> 00:54:55,620 So this is just a breakout of where is the money coming from within the organization 885 00:54:55,620 --> 00:54:57,620 to fund our budget. 886 00:54:57,620 --> 00:55:00,580 And I'll give you just a moment. 887 00:55:00,580 --> 00:55:06,220 I don't want to go through all of them, but give you a second to be able to look. 888 00:55:06,220 --> 00:55:10,700 And then I'm going to give you our actual budget, our estimates and preliminaries. 889 00:55:10,700 --> 00:55:16,500 So the first thing with our budget is you'll notice that the budgeted amount versus our 890 00:55:16,500 --> 00:55:19,940 estimate do not match. 891 00:55:19,940 --> 00:55:25,180 During the pandemic, we end with raising all the call volumes that you saw that have gone 892 00:55:25,180 --> 00:55:26,180 up. 893 00:55:26,180 --> 00:55:33,860 We had to shoulder $483,000 in unbudgeted costs between additional assistance that we're 894 00:55:33,860 --> 00:55:38,680 providing people and some of the staffing changes that we had to make. 895 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:45,460 Of that, we look like we are maybe going to end up having to come back for a budget amendment, 896 00:55:45,460 --> 00:55:47,420 but it will not be for $483,000. 897 00:55:47,420 --> 00:55:51,020 It'll be somewhere in the $200,000 range. 898 00:55:51,020 --> 00:55:54,200 All right. 899 00:55:54,200 --> 00:56:02,020 Then again, the FTE summary, we have 46 headcount. 900 00:56:02,020 --> 00:56:09,420 And so because 311 and CRM is a little complicated, it's complicated for people because 311 can 901 00:56:09,420 --> 00:56:13,580 look very differently depending on where you go and who set it up. 902 00:56:13,580 --> 00:56:17,520 So we wanted to take some time to walk you through this as we're bringing in a supplemental 903 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:22,660 request for the actual contact center side of the things that are going to have to happen 904 00:56:22,660 --> 00:56:24,220 with that. 905 00:56:24,220 --> 00:56:27,640 The first thing was just to give you a good definition, this is the only thing I'm going 906 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:34,580 to redirect and that's that a 311 center utilizes centralized staff and customer relationship 907 00:56:34,580 --> 00:56:41,100 software to streamline access to city services, increase departmental efficiencies and provide 908 00:56:41,100 --> 00:56:45,060 citizens a single point of contact for all of their needs. 909 00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:49,540 Basically, you'll see below that decentralized structure, that's kind of where we are today. 910 00:56:49,540 --> 00:56:54,220 A resident has to understand and know how the city operates in order to find the correct 911 00:56:54,220 --> 00:56:55,220 division. 912 00:56:55,220 --> 00:56:58,380 A lot of times that involves a lot of transfers. 913 00:56:58,380 --> 00:57:02,860 So what we're going to be moving to is the 311 center. 914 00:57:02,860 --> 00:57:08,300 We're going to utilize this customer relationship software to make sure that we can have real 915 00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:10,780 time communication to the different divisions. 916 00:57:10,780 --> 00:57:15,220 So you have one point of contact that can take talk to that customer, enter their needs 917 00:57:15,220 --> 00:57:21,780 into the appropriate work order system and get them the resolutions that they need. 918 00:57:21,780 --> 00:57:22,780 How does it work? 919 00:57:22,780 --> 00:57:24,760 This is kind of that layout of that structure. 920 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:31,220 We have multiple contact channels that will come through one set of staff who deal with 921 00:57:31,220 --> 00:57:35,540 talking to customers when we're placing information into the system, we're going to be placing 922 00:57:35,540 --> 00:57:40,900 that into the CRM software and it's going to automatically break things out into the 923 00:57:40,900 --> 00:57:42,880 areas they need to go with. 924 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,380 We can also have milestones. 925 00:57:46,380 --> 00:57:51,140 So as these things go through the process, it can send that customer back notification 926 00:57:51,140 --> 00:57:55,180 that this is what's happened, the status of your work order has changed and this is where 927 00:57:55,180 --> 00:57:56,180 we are. 928 00:57:56,180 --> 00:57:57,900 This has now been completed. 929 00:57:57,900 --> 00:58:00,420 That is difficult to do currently. 930 00:58:00,420 --> 00:58:05,560 And then it gives us a great wealth of information so that we can just make good business decisions 931 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,400 as we move forward. 932 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:10,700 So this is our timeline. 933 00:58:10,700 --> 00:58:16,420 We started working on some of the development as far back as the summer of 2019. 934 00:58:16,420 --> 00:58:21,220 We had a little bit of a lag as we did some process stuff and had a pandemic. 935 00:58:21,220 --> 00:58:25,240 But we've now gotten into the procurement phase for the CRM. 936 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,780 We have a finalist and we're in contract negotiations. 937 00:58:28,780 --> 00:58:32,580 We've already begun mapping processes with all of the different divisions and identified 938 00:58:32,580 --> 00:58:36,800 some of the groups that will be coming in as part of our phase one development. 939 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:42,260 And we're planning to have our kickoff later this summer or early fall. 940 00:58:42,260 --> 00:58:47,940 We're expecting the implementation to be done sometime during the next fiscal year. 941 00:58:47,940 --> 00:58:50,420 And this is what it costs. 942 00:58:50,420 --> 00:58:57,020 So what we're looking for in our supplemental, the CRM software has already been debt funded 943 00:58:57,020 --> 00:58:59,720 and it is paid for. 944 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,820 We have our consultants that we have on board helping us with that. 945 00:59:02,820 --> 00:59:07,520 This is for the cost of some of the positions that are going to be necessary to be able 946 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:14,460 to bring in those additional calls as well as getting our equipment so that we have the 947 00:59:14,460 --> 00:59:17,320 correct number of computers and phones and things of that nature. 948 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,940 So the one-time cost is $84,700. 949 00:59:21,940 --> 00:59:25,020 That includes a contingency of $74,000. 950 00:59:25,020 --> 00:59:29,380 Just in case, timelines may tweak just a little bit. 951 00:59:29,380 --> 00:59:39,580 But the total cost for next fiscal year, $373,510, with an ongoing recurring cost of $505,000. 952 00:59:39,580 --> 00:59:44,340 The reason that you're seeing it a little bit lower in year one is because we're prorating 953 00:59:44,340 --> 00:59:48,940 salaries because we're not anticipating needing these people October 1. 954 00:59:48,940 --> 00:59:53,500 So we've prorated those salaries. 955 00:59:53,500 --> 00:59:54,500 And that is it. 956 00:59:54,500 --> 01:00:03,780 People will be happy to answer any questions. 957 01:00:03,780 --> 01:00:09,740 So what departments are going to be part of phase one implementation of 311? 958 01:00:09,740 --> 01:00:15,020 Well, we didn't include them in this just in case something changes, but right now what 959 01:00:15,020 --> 01:00:21,260 we're looking at for phase one are animal services simply because of the huge call volume. 960 01:00:21,260 --> 01:00:24,480 And it's very difficult for them to maintain. 961 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:31,340 Something else we're looking at right now is community improvement and all utility infrastructure 962 01:00:31,340 --> 01:00:37,000 areas because those are the areas where customers really have to have a degree in city government 963 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,140 before they know where they're trying to go. 964 01:00:39,140 --> 01:00:43,540 We're taking all those things that tend to overlap one another so that we can try to 965 01:00:43,540 --> 01:00:46,100 make things as easy as possible for customers. 966 01:00:46,100 --> 01:00:48,380 And does that include like streets? 967 01:00:48,380 --> 01:00:53,300 It would include things like streets, water, wastewater. 968 01:00:53,300 --> 01:00:55,580 We already do utilities, so we do them. 969 01:00:55,580 --> 01:01:02,060 But it's going to have like water, wastewater, engineering, the other part of public works. 970 01:01:02,060 --> 01:01:05,660 So it's all those infrastructure groups. 971 01:01:05,660 --> 01:01:06,660 And will this work? 972 01:01:06,660 --> 01:01:07,660 Oh, sorry. 973 01:01:07,660 --> 01:01:08,660 I'm sorry. 974 01:01:08,660 --> 01:01:09,660 Permitting. 975 01:01:09,660 --> 01:01:10,660 I'm just... 976 01:01:10,660 --> 01:01:11,660 Not at this time. 977 01:01:11,660 --> 01:01:12,660 Okay. 978 01:01:12,660 --> 01:01:15,940 Permitting is a little different because it requires you to interpret code. 979 01:01:15,940 --> 01:01:21,260 And when you have someone that's that broad a generalist, code interpretation tends to 980 01:01:21,260 --> 01:01:23,500 be a little bit much. 981 01:01:23,500 --> 01:01:25,540 Yeah, a little difficult. 982 01:01:25,540 --> 01:01:26,540 Sorry. 983 01:01:26,540 --> 01:01:27,540 Go ahead. 984 01:01:27,540 --> 01:01:32,580 And will the system work with or replace the current engaged Netton app? 985 01:01:32,580 --> 01:01:33,580 Yes. 986 01:01:33,580 --> 01:01:38,740 The CRM software will actually have a fully functional mobile app. 987 01:01:38,740 --> 01:01:42,780 And as a matter of fact, any of the things that we build for customer service as knowledge 988 01:01:42,780 --> 01:01:46,980 based articles or any division that's using it can build knowledge based articles that 989 01:01:46,980 --> 01:01:49,900 have both public and private information. 990 01:01:49,900 --> 01:01:53,060 Any of that public information can be on our website. 991 01:01:53,060 --> 01:01:57,100 So we have one document that provides the public a place that they can search a knowledge 992 01:01:57,100 --> 01:01:58,260 base as well. 993 01:01:58,260 --> 01:02:03,900 You can place in links so that if they read the knowledge base article and say, oh yeah, 994 01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:07,620 this is my issue, and it's something that they can create a work order for themselves, 995 01:02:07,620 --> 01:02:09,980 the link can be right there in the knowledge base article. 996 01:02:09,980 --> 01:02:10,980 Nice. 997 01:02:10,980 --> 01:02:16,900 And is there a plan to transition from engaged Netton app to the future app? 998 01:02:16,900 --> 01:02:17,900 There will be a plan. 999 01:02:17,900 --> 01:02:20,980 I don't know that we're quite to that place yet, because we're going to be learning a 1000 01:02:20,980 --> 01:02:24,060 little bit about this software as we get into the implementation phase. 1001 01:02:24,060 --> 01:02:28,780 Right now we're really doing all of that ground work and doing that discovery of what are 1002 01:02:28,780 --> 01:02:32,300 all the things that we're going to need to replace from the engaged Netton? 1003 01:02:32,300 --> 01:02:34,300 What are we going to be transitioning? 1004 01:02:34,300 --> 01:02:37,580 How are we going to interface with these different work order applications? 1005 01:02:37,580 --> 01:02:42,460 So we're in that discovery phase at the moment. 1006 01:02:42,460 --> 01:02:44,980 I have a question. 1007 01:02:44,980 --> 01:02:50,300 So how will this affect existing city staff, whether that be customer service or whatever 1008 01:02:50,300 --> 01:02:51,300 else? 1009 01:02:51,300 --> 01:02:56,020 You know, the only thing it will affect with my staff is that we're going to have a broader 1010 01:02:56,020 --> 01:03:01,060 base of information that we're going to be supplying and much better tools to do it. 1011 01:03:01,060 --> 01:03:05,020 If we find that we're moving a tremendous amount of call load and we're taking three 1012 01:03:05,020 --> 01:03:10,900 people's worth of work out of a division, then we can look at moving staff there. 1013 01:03:10,900 --> 01:03:16,460 Because that's obviously going to be our first goal before going out and adding new FTE to 1014 01:03:16,460 --> 01:03:17,460 the budgets. 1015 01:03:17,460 --> 01:03:18,460 Right? 1016 01:03:18,460 --> 01:03:20,900 But we're going to be evaluating it as we go. 1017 01:03:20,900 --> 01:03:24,900 So it should be nothing more than just really some changing and shuffling of staff. 1018 01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:28,820 I have to say, I really appreciate the direction here. 1019 01:03:28,820 --> 01:03:32,420 That's systematizing and automation is near and dear to my heart. 1020 01:03:32,420 --> 01:03:35,260 I do a lot of that in my job. 1021 01:03:35,260 --> 01:03:36,860 So I'm excited to see where this goes. 1022 01:03:36,860 --> 01:03:37,860 Yes. 1023 01:03:37,860 --> 01:03:38,860 I'm very excited. 1024 01:03:38,860 --> 01:03:40,980 Is the training included in the budget as well? 1025 01:03:40,980 --> 01:03:41,980 Is what? 1026 01:03:41,980 --> 01:03:42,980 The training? 1027 01:03:42,980 --> 01:03:43,980 The training? 1028 01:03:43,980 --> 01:03:44,980 For the staff? 1029 01:03:44,980 --> 01:03:45,980 Yes. 1030 01:03:45,980 --> 01:03:46,980 Okay. 1031 01:03:46,980 --> 01:03:47,980 Yeah. 1032 01:03:47,980 --> 01:03:48,980 Okay. 1033 01:03:48,980 --> 01:03:52,500 As a person who really likes the voice that I get, and I have an opportunity to talk with 1034 01:03:52,500 --> 01:04:00,620 them many times, managing property, having utilities on and off and things done, it's 1035 01:04:00,620 --> 01:04:01,860 great staff. 1036 01:04:01,860 --> 01:04:02,860 They are friendly. 1037 01:04:02,860 --> 01:04:03,860 They are helpful. 1038 01:04:03,860 --> 01:04:04,860 Thank you. 1039 01:04:04,860 --> 01:04:05,860 They take care of it. 1040 01:04:05,860 --> 01:04:08,380 And I just can't say enough good about your department. 1041 01:04:08,380 --> 01:04:11,300 We have some really great frontline representatives. 1042 01:04:11,300 --> 01:04:12,300 You do. 1043 01:04:12,300 --> 01:04:15,500 They're very dedicated and they work really hard. 1044 01:04:15,500 --> 01:04:20,020 As a property manager, you're probably going to find that our new customer portal will 1045 01:04:20,020 --> 01:04:25,340 be wonderful for you because it will allow you to be able to have, right off the get-go, 1046 01:04:25,340 --> 01:04:29,980 all of your bills under the one login, and you'll be able to make a single payment for 1047 01:04:29,980 --> 01:04:30,980 all of them. 1048 01:04:30,980 --> 01:04:31,980 Wow. 1049 01:04:31,980 --> 01:04:32,980 Yeah. 1050 01:04:32,980 --> 01:04:35,420 Like I said, we have some very exciting things planned. 1051 01:04:35,420 --> 01:04:39,180 Do you have training for customers? 1052 01:04:39,180 --> 01:04:42,780 I promise this one is very, very user-friendly, very intuitive. 1053 01:04:42,780 --> 01:04:49,580 I'll be excited for you guys to get to see it soon. 1054 01:04:49,580 --> 01:04:50,580 Yeah. 1055 01:04:50,580 --> 01:04:51,580 And your metrics are amazing. 1056 01:04:51,580 --> 01:04:52,580 Thank you. 1057 01:04:52,580 --> 01:04:53,580 We are very proud of them. 1058 01:04:53,580 --> 01:04:54,580 Any other questions? 1059 01:04:54,580 --> 01:04:55,580 All right. 1060 01:04:55,580 --> 01:04:56,580 Thank you. 1061 01:04:56,580 --> 01:04:57,580 Thank you. 1062 01:04:57,580 --> 01:04:58,580 And that is it. 1063 01:04:58,580 --> 01:04:59,580 Correct? 1064 01:04:59,580 --> 01:05:00,580 All right. 1065 01:05:00,580 --> 01:05:01,580 Okay. 1066 01:05:01,580 --> 01:05:07,340 It is 10.05. 1067 01:05:07,340 --> 01:05:09,140 Do we have emotion to adjourn? 1068 01:05:09,140 --> 01:05:10,140 So moved. 1069 01:05:10,140 --> 01:05:11,140 There you go. 1070 01:05:11,140 --> 01:05:11,140 Adjourned.