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 Good afternoon and welcome to the City of Denton's Planning and Zoning meeting for

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 Wednesday, June 9th.

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 This is our work session and with a quorum present, I will call us to order at 5.08 p.m.

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 Let the record show that Chair Rosell is absent tonight.

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 Before we get into the agenda, I just wanted to welcome Commissioner Pruitt.

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 It's his first meeting.

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 So welcome to the board and thank you for serving.

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 Our first agenda item is citizen comment on consent agenda items.

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 We don't have anyone on the phone, however, we have had the following public comment using

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 our online form for item FP210011A, we have had four comments against this item.

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 On FP21-010A, we have had one person comment against this item.

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 That moves us to the next agenda item, which is clarification of items on our agenda.

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 The first one being minutes, does anyone have anything with the minutes?

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 Seeing none, I will move us along to consent.

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 Any questions on consent?

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 Also seeing none, that will move us to items for individual consideration.

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 That is PP210009A, Hayley, that is you.

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 This is item PP210009.

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 This is a preliminary plat for a single lot that is intended for an industrial development.

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 As you can see on the screen, it is located on the west side of I-35, north of Berthold

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 road.

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 At this time, staff is changing our recommendation to approval.

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 Since the agenda was posted, the applicant has addressed all outstanding comments.

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 Those were primarily related to their associated engineering plans with some driveway dimensions,

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 electric easement and things like that, that needed to be updated on the plat.

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 They have made those changes and staff is now recommending approval of this item.

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 I'm happy to answer any questions.

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 And I know that that new plat and whatnot was emailed to everyone as well.

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 Thanks, Hayley.

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 You're going again with the next one, PP2114.

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 All right, this is a final plat for the Eagle Cove edition.

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 This is a single family subdivision that may look familiar to some of you all as it recently

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 had an alternative ESA plan approved.

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 This plat, again, same as the last one, they were able to resolve their outstanding comments.

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 In this case, it related to their HOA documents and again, a couple of electric easements

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 on the plat.

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 They resolved those items and so staff is now recommending approval and that revised

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 plat was also sent to you all earlier this week.

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 I'm happy to answer any questions.

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 Anyone have any questions for Hayley on this one?

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 No, I do not see any Hayley.

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 Thank you.

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 And then I know the next one you've updated us on as well and that the applicant's withdrawing.

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 We submitted a request that was forwarded to you all to withdraw that item from consideration

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 They'll be resubmitting that at a later date when they're able to address those comments.

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 Okay, so Mac, I guess my question for you, how do we handle that as far as tonight's

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 You can just basically skip it.

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 You don't need to take any action on it.

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 It'll just, it's removed by action of not taking-

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 So do I mention, I can mention it though that the applicant has withdrawn and then we'll

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 So that brings us to FP21-0013B, which is Sean.

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 Good evening, Chair and members of the commission.

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 Let me just share my screen here.

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 So this is a request for a final plat of a property in the ETJ off Hilltop Road, approximately

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 20.7 acres.

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 And staff is recommending denial because they have not met, they have not met the standards

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 So you can live your life, and call-

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 I'm sorry, is there a question?

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 This is Brad Book with Not Near Property Development, we're on the Hilltop.

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 We were just asking to have an extension to re-submit for the plat because trying to meet

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 some of the responses from the engineering, and we were waiting on a survey and the surveyor

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 couldn't get it done because of the weather, held them up a couple weeks.

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 Now we have it.

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 We just got it today, in fact, to complete.

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 This plat has already received an extension and therefore there's not an opportunity for

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 an additional extension at this time.

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 Yes, sir, you have not been recognized to speak at the meeting at this moment.

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 If you could please get with staff on your comments, they can further direct you.

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 That is actually the conclusion of my comments on this plat, but I will stand for any questions

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 Just to clarify, they've already had an extension on this.

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 They cannot have another one.

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 They can address the comments and re-submit and then it will come before us again.

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 Does anyone have any questions?

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 Okay, Sean, if you could reach out to that caller and just go ahead and address concerns

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 and then let him know.

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 Actually, you have the next one, Sean, coming up, PP21-0007B.

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 Yes, ma'am.

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 This is a proposed preliminary plat of the Vintage Village Edition and staff is now recommending

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 approval as they have addressed the outstanding comments we had and that plat was shared with

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 So if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer them.

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 Yeah, and I think everybody that literally just came to us right before the meeting started,

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 so I don't know if you've seen it in your email, but it is there.

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 I don't see any, Sean.

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 Okay, who's got our next one?

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 Mark Laird has the next one, which is PP21-0008A.

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 My name is Mark Laird.

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 I'm the planner with the Development and Service Department.

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 For your reference or review this evening, I have for you the preliminary plat of SP

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 Ditten 1 Edition Phase 2.

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 This property is slated for warehouse distribution center use and staff recommends this property

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 plat for approval and I stand for any questions.

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 And Mark, I think this was another one that was updated post-agenda posting, right?

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 That we got emailed to us.

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 Does anyone have any questions for Mark?

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 I do not see any, but stand by because you're on deck for the next one, PP21-0010.

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 This is the preliminary plat for Windsor Oak Phase 2 Edition.

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 This is a residential development that's being proposed off Ferris, Silverdome and Cooper

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 Creek Road.

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 Staff is recommending denying, denial of this development as it does not meet the criteria

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 that's in Exhibit 2 of the staff analysis and I stand for any questions.

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 Does anybody have any questions for Mark on this one?

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 That will bring us to our public hearing portion.

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 Item A, staff is requesting to be postponed to a date certain of the 23rd.

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 Yes, if you could open it and then postpone to open it.

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 Okay, yeah, so public hearing A and B both are being postponed to June 23rd.

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 So that will bring us to PD-20-009B and that is Hayley again.

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 Yes, let me get that pulled up.

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 All right, good evening.

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 This is PD-20-0009 for the Parkside addition.

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 The request before you this evening is a rezoning from Rural Residential to Plan Development

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 District.

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 The property is outlined in yellow on the map here.

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 It is just over 62 acres located on the north side of Hickory Creek Road and south of Creekdale

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 Some of you may recall this property was annexed in 2018.

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 Following that, it was assigned that RD5X placeholder.

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 That's what transitioned to RR.

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 There was a previous request for Neighborhood Residential 4 zoning on this property as well

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 as the adjacent properties to the northwest.

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 That request was denied in 2018 as a result of concerns related to traffic on Hickory

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 So this is an entirely new request unrelated to that one, if anyone remembers that previous

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 This is just a look at what the zoning map would look like.

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 Currently, again, it has that RR zoning that transitioned from the placeholder following

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 its annexation and it would be reflected as PD if this was approved.

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 Wanted to start by walking you through the development plan.

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 This is, of course, a requested single-family subdivision.

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 The plan and the PD standards reflect a maximum of 156 single-family lots.

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 They intend to develop this as one phase.

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 There are a few areas such as this detention pond on the northern end and this area here

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 on the far eastern side at the south side that would be HOA common areas.

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 The area in yellow on your map is what is needed for right-of-way dedication for the

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 Hickory Creek roadway expansion.

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 That is an ongoing capital improvement project.

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 And then the area outlined in red is what is proposed as park dedication and that is

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 approximately 23 acres of land.

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 It does include a mixture of flood plain as well as some land out of the flood plain.

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 So this blue line here delineates where those flood plain limits are.

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 So this would be just open space flood plain and this other area could be developed for

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 The PD standards that were in your backup are kind of summarized here on the screen.

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 So they are proposing this as a cluster subdivision.

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 If that's a term that you're unfamiliar with, I wanted to provide a definition of what that

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 The code allows for several options of how that open space could be maintained.

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 It could be dedicated to like a third-party entity that's a land trust that would hold

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 it or it could be dedicated to the city as park and that's what's proposed in this instance.

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 So you can see the breakdown on the screen of what they've proposed and they would be

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 at 37% total park dedication with that 23 acres, so they do meet that requirement.

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 Again, just showing you a summary of their development standards.

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 What they're proposing is actually consistent with the R6 district, but rather than then

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 that might otherwise be out of character for this area by providing that 30% open space

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 So they're not proposing any deviations from the standard R6 in terms of lot dimensions

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 They would follow all of those standards.

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 The difference in this case is again, that open space dedication that we would not normally

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 As is outlined in your backup, we do have our standard criteria for approval that apply

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 I won't go through all of these in detail, but we will touch on many of these as we go

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 through the PD specific criteria.

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 So just outline on your screen here, some of these that do not apply, for example, they've

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 not proposed phasing with this development, there were no prior approvals that they needed

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 of the comprehensive plan and provision of services to the site.

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 So these six criteria will walk through in a little more detail that are specific to

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 a PD application.

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 The first criterion is consistency with our comprehensive plan.

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 So this area, as you can see, is designated for low residential.

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 That is that designation for that one to four dwelling units per acre single family development.

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 When you look at the density, since they are proposing this as a cluster with that significant

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 amount of open space, they do come in at a gross density of 2.6 dwelling units per acre.

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 So they are consistent with that designation.

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 The second criterion is compliance with our development code.

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 Commissioner Smith has a question.

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 like cluster developments like this, but especially when you've got something like a floodplain

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 where they couldn't build there anyways, you remove that open space at 23 acres, that leaves

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 the density at probably closer to like five, almost six.

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 They would be at, so I did that calculation in case anyone asked, they would be at 4.4

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 If you, if you took out the 23 acres, but bearing in mind that about five acres of that

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 23 is actually developable, developable land outside of the floodplain that's above and

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 beyond parkland dedication.

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 That's fine.

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 All right.

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 Awesome.

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 My questions at the end.

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 Thank you.

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 Okay.

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 All right.

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 So the second criterion again is compliance with the DDC.

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 As you could see in their development standards, they are proposing to develop everything consistent

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 with the R6 district.

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 So that is not only these dimensional standards that we see here, but in terms of uses, they're

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 proposing again, as we saw, single family and park, they are proposing to allow all

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 of those accessory uses that would be permitted in R6.

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 So they are not proposing any significant deviations from the DDC, but the PD is a requirement

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 if you want to follow that cluster subdivision procedure.

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 So that's what led them down this path.

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 The third criterion is whether they would provide greater building design amenities

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 and connectivity.

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 So again, as I mentioned, the building design would follow the DDC standards.

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 So it'd be consistent with the type of product that we see in this area for other single

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 family developments.

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 They are proposing that 23 acres of park and open space.

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 So just wanted to look at that in a little more detail.

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 As I alluded to earlier, they are going above and beyond their parkland dedication with

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 what's outside of the floodplain.

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 They would be required just over one acre of dedication for 156 units.

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 And then in addition to that, they're setting aside that 18.7 acres that meets that 30%

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 requirement for a cluster subdivision that would be permanently set aside as open space

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 and floodplain conservation area.

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 In terms of connectivity, they are helping the connectivity of this area, which has been

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 kind of piecemealed over time as parcels have annexed and developed.

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 So they would be extending Creekdale on the north side that you can see here.

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 And then they do have, of course, this pathway through where residents would now have a new

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 option to get from Creekdale down to Hickory Creek, where they would have their primary

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 entrance at this location.

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 And then they are proposing an additional connection point to the east that would eventually

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 align if the adjacent property develops with a street that was stubbed out with the neighboring

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 subdivision.

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 So they are improving the street connectivity.

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 Similarly, they are planning to work with our Parks Department for some initial trail

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 improvements through this park that would have points of connectivity proposed where

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 the streets would abut this at these two locations, as well as down here to provide some additional

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 pedestrian connectivity and amenities to the area.

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 The fourth criterion is applicable to residential uses and looks at whether there would be compatible

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 types of buildings, uses, and whether it would be consistent with the character of the area.

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 Again, this PD is proposing to limit those principal uses to single-family detached,

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 so that is consistent with what we have in this area, as there are several other single-family

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 developments in the immediate vicinity of this.

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 Their lots would have a minimum of 6,000 square feet.

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 That is consistent with other subdivisions when I examine kind of this larger area to

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 see what lot sizes were in the area.

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 They range anywhere from Thistle Hills with much larger lots in the first phase that were

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 a little over 10,000 square feet, to many of the more recent subdivisions such as Ryan

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 Meadows that were at that 6,000 square foot mark.

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 So they are consistent with the area, and again, they would follow our DDC requirements

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 for building design, so we would have similar styles and types of homes that we see throughout

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 the rest of the city under those standards.

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 Criterion five is applicable for non-residential uses, whether they are appropriate in terms

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 of their location and how they've been planned.

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 This PD is proposing that park use that would be non-residential.

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 They've been coordinating with the Parks Department throughout their review process to ensure

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 that this is a desirable location for a neighborhood park, and again, as we looked at earlier,

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 they are proposing to meet, not only meet, but also exceed both the open space requirements

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 for a cluster subdivision, but also parkland dedication.

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 And then the sixth criterion has several components that we'll walk through to discuss their provision

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 of public facilities that would support the development.

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 First, we look at schools, and we did reach out to Denton ISD to confirm the attendance

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 boundaries and student generation, so you can see that here on the screen, and Denton

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 ISD indicated that all three of these schools have capacity to serve these additional students

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 that would be expected to come from the subdivision.

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 Looking at both fire and law enforcement, our fire department, of course, looked at

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 their requests, as they do with all of these, and confirmed that they are within the standard

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 eight-minute response time boundary.

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 The nearest fire station that would respond to this location would be Fire Station 6 located

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 on Teasley Lane, and as this is consistent with, again, the character and uses of the

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 area, they're not expected to generate any significant increase in crime or nuisance

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 that our police department would be concerned about.

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 Looking at water and wastewater utilities, you can see on the map here where those facilities

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 are, so there has been both water and sewer extended to the frontage of this property

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 that can be extended throughout the site and loops to provide those services to these homes.

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 And then looking at streets, the expected trip generation for this site, you can see

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 on the screen, is just over 1,400 daily trips for this number of homes.

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 They will be required to make perimeter street improvements on Creekdale that we looked at

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 earlier, so that would be that westward extension of Creekdale from its current terminus.

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 And then again, we do have the Hickory Creek alignment, which if you've looked at our mobility

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 plan, was originally intended to curve through this property.

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 If you recall, as I referenced back in 2018, there was an accident on Hickory Creek Road

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 that really generated concern about that alignment, and as part of a capital improvement project,

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 city staff is looking at realigning Hickory Creek Road, and that's what is generally reflected

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 here in orange on the map.

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 Hickory Creek Road will take off and bridge over the floodplain through this location to

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 straighten out that roadway and realign it.

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 This I believe is phase three of that project.

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 It is very near or at completion of the design phase from what I've heard, and that would

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 look at this cross section here where Hickory Creek would be widened to a four-lane divided

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 section with ultimate right-of-way width to allow for six lanes if we need to expand that

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 in the future.

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 The applicant did coordinate with our engineering department to look at how they fit into that

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 CIP plan, so there is a median cut and left turn lane as part of the Hickory Creek plan

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 already that would provide access to this site, and they did a study that indicated

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 that they will merit a right turn lane as well, so they'll be working with city staff

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 as well as the adjacent property owner to coordinate and see how feasible that right

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 turn lane is and the timing of that in conjunction with this capital improvement project.

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 And then finally, the final criteria that we look at is associated with parks.

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 This property is actually within the 10-minute walk to a park goal with the nearby Cross

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 Timbers Park, however, some of these other subdivisions don't currently meet that goal,

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 so this additional neighborhood park in this location would not only provide closer access

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 to a park amenity for these future residents, but also other developments in this area that

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 are outside of that 10-minute goal, so that is an advantage of this development that we

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 would see.

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 Neighborhood outreach was conducted with this request.

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 I've received no responses to those notifications to date.

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 The applicant did hold a neighborhood meeting back in April via Zoom that they can certainly

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 provide more details on, but from watching the recording of that that they provided to

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 me, they did have one council member in attendance as well as a neighbor, but there were no other

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 neighbors that attended that neighborhood meeting.

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 And finally, staff is recommending approval of this request as we found it to be consistent

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 with all of our criteria for approval.

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 Their next step after the P&Z meeting would be a City Council meeting next week on June

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 15th.

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 And with that, I will stop sharing and I'm happy to answer any questions.

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 Commissioner Smith.

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 Hey Vice-Chair, Haley, can you go back over what the 2018 projected project was when they

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 presented it or just rough, rough on that?

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 Sure.

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 So they had proposed a zoning of neighborhood residential four, and if you remember under

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 the the 2002 code, there were not minimum lot sizes, so that was just on a density basis.

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 They could have had up to four units per acre.

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 That rezoning was actually for a larger site that was, I believe, 92 acres in total.

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 So it was a significantly higher number of units than what we see with this case.

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 And that rezoning, as I mentioned, was denied at council.

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 That applicant came back afterwards and started to propose something a lower density, but

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 then ultimately withdrew that request because of the unknowns associated with Hickory Creek

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 Road at that time.

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 The right of way is over that detention pond, is that correct?

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 So there is an existing pond, it's actually an environmentally sensitive area.

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 The 4.6 acres that is needed for the Hickory Creek Road alignment is not just for the roadway

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 itself but for drainage improvements associated with that roadway as well as that bridge and

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 some of the infrastructure for that.

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 So that pond would be removed.

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 Our code does require, it does allow for that removal since it is a mobility plan needed

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 roadway.

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 However, any remaining land that's not affected by that would be expected to be restored in

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 coordination with our environmental services department to try to restore some of those

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 ESA functions.

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 So that ESA analysis is done at the mobility side of things, not at this development side?

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 There was an ESA field assessment completed for this project that looked at all of those

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 pieces and confirmed that there is floodplain and I believe water-related habitat around

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 that pond.

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 I might have just missed that piece.

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 Next thing, there's a PD and I think it's the reserve at Creekside that's up there on

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 Ryan because this location is surrounded by, it's got an R4 on the west end across Hickory

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 Creek or Country Club, across the railroad there's R2.

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 There's a PD up there along Ryan Road, I'm thinking it looks like it's R4 but I can't

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 tell just knowing how many acres it is, the GIS map will tell us how many units are in

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 there so can we see that before public?

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 Sure, I do have some data so the Creekside development is a little unique, it actually

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 before annexing into the city that landowner entered into a pre-annexation development

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 agreement that established they would ultimately put on the property.

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 That subdivision is 137 units, it's about 47 acres, I think the density is right at

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 just under three units per acre because there was a significant area of ESA that was set

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 aside as well as some tree preservation that was required as part of that pre-annexation

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 development agreement.

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 Okay, understood, thank you.

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 Anyone else have a question for Haley?

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 Haley, did anything come out of the neighborhood meeting?

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 I mean obviously there was only one person there but was there any comment?

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 So I believe if I remember correctly the neighbor that attended is actually the person who is

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 selling this property that's retaining some of their land, the mayor was also in attendance

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 so there was a pretty good discussion with the mayor regarding the project itself and

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 the mobility changes that are occurring in the area but no concerns from the neighbors

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 that I heard.

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 Okay, okay good, thank you.

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 Anyone else?

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 I don't see any, thank you Haley.

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 Thank you.

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 Let's see, I think that was our, that is our last agenda item.

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 So with that I will close our work session at 537, we will meet back here for our public

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 meeting at 630.

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 Thank you all.

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 Hello and welcome to the City of Denton's planning and zoning meeting for Wednesday,

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 June 9th, 2021.

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 With a quorum present I will call us to order at 633 p.m.

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 First item on the agenda is Pledge of Allegiance to the U.S. and Texas Flags.

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 Fellow commissioners feel free to unmute yourself if you would like to participate.

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 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for

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 which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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 Honor the Texas flag, I pledge allegiance to the Texas flag, one state, under God, indivisible.

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 Next item on our agenda is to consider approval of the planning and zoning minutes for May

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 19th.

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 I will entertain a motion.

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 Commissioner Smith.

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 Make a motion to approve.

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 Motion on the floor to approve.

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 Commissioner Anderson.

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 Second the motion.

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 So motion and a second to approve the minutes.

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 Any discussion?

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 All right, we'll take a vote via roll call.

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 Commissioner Smith.

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 Aye.

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 Commissioner Anderson.

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 Aye.

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 Commissioner Cole.

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 Aye.

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 Commissioner Pruitt.

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 Aye.

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 And Chair, is also an aye.

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 That motion carries 5-0.

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 Commissioner Anderson, did you have a question?

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 Thanks, Chair.

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 Should Commissioner Pruitt abstain since he wasn't at the last meeting?

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 I do believe in the past we have been told that even commissioners who were not at the

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 meeting for the minutes can approve, can vote on the minutes.

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 Is that correct, Mac?

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 That is exactly right.

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 Yes.

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 Okay.

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 Awesome.

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 Okay.

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 Welcome, Harry.

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 Thank you.

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 I did view the meeting, so.

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 Okay, we will move on to our consent agenda.

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 Chair can entertain discussion or a motion.

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 Commissioner Smith.

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 I make a motion to approve.

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 We have a motion to approve the consent agenda.

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 Commissioner Anderson.

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 Second the motion.

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 We have a first and a second for the consent agenda discussion.

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 Commissioner Pruitt.

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 Yeah, just a comment.

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 I just wanted to thank staff and the applicants on both of these for making provisions for

482
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:04,720
 connectivity, sort of in the spirit of our 2019 code, even though the previous code that

483
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,120
 they were under doesn't actually require it.

484
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,080
 It seems like they went above and beyond having to cross some utility easements and get some

485
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,320
 turnaround easements in order to accomplish that, so I appreciate that.

486
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,320
 Thank you for your comments.

487
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,320
 That's awesome.

488
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,320
 Okay.

489
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,800
 We have a first and a second for the approval of the consent agenda.

490
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,400
 Any further discussion?

491
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,400
 Okay.

492
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,400
 We'll take a vote.

493
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,800
 There will be a roll call.

494
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:29,800
 Commissioner Smith.

495
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,800
 Aye.

496
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:31,800
 Commissioner Anderson.

497
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:32,800
 Aye.

498
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:33,800
 Commissioner Cole.

499
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:34,800
 Aye.

500
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:35,800
 Commissioner Pruitt.

501
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:36,800
 Aye.

502
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,040
 And the chair is also an aye.

503
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,440
 That motion carries five zero.

504
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,800
 That will take us to our items for individual consideration.

505
00:32:45,800 --> 00:33:00,760
 Item number A is PP21-009A, and I will invite Haley Zygarski to present that item.

506
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,920
 Get that pulled up here.

507
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:11,000
 Sorry, jumped a little ahead there.

508
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:19,520
 All right, so this is a preliminary plat for the I-35 cold storage project that is intended

509
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,480
 for an industrial development.

510
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:26,220
 The project is located on the west side of I-35, north of Barthold Road, as you can see

511
00:33:26,220 --> 00:33:28,120
 on the map here.

512
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,900
 Since the agenda posting, the applicant was able to resolve all of their outstanding comments,

513
00:33:32,900 --> 00:33:36,680
 so at this time, staff is recommending approval as it meets the established requirements,

514
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:43,040
 and I'm happy to answer any questions.

515
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,040
 Thank you, Haley.

516
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:50,720
 Are there any questions for Haley on this item?

517
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,880
 I do not see any, Haley.

518
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:53,880
 Thank you.

519
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,920
 I will make mention that for this item, we had two people make comments using our online

520
00:33:58,920 --> 00:33:59,920
 form.

521
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,160
 There were zero in support, two against.

522
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,800
 All of these comment forms were emailed to the commissioners and our city secretary to

523
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,040
 be recorded.

524
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,920
 Chair can entertain a motion at this time.

525
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:13,920
 Commissioner Cole?

526
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:14,920
 Motion to approve.

527
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,440
 Okay, we have a motion on the floor to approve this item.

528
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,440
 Commissioner Smith?

529
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,440
 I do.

530
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,120
 We have a first and a second for approval.

531
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,120
 Any discussion?

532
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,380
 Okay, we'll call for a vote via roll call.

533
00:34:28,380 --> 00:34:29,380
 Commissioner Cole?

534
00:34:29,380 --> 00:34:30,380
 Aye.

535
00:34:30,380 --> 00:34:31,380
 Commissioner Smith?

536
00:34:31,380 --> 00:34:32,380
 Aye.

537
00:34:32,380 --> 00:34:33,380
 Commissioner Anderson?

538
00:34:33,380 --> 00:34:34,380
 Aye.

539
00:34:34,380 --> 00:34:35,380
 Commissioner Pruitt?

540
00:34:35,380 --> 00:34:36,380
 Aye.

541
00:34:36,380 --> 00:34:40,040
 And the chair is also an aye.

542
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,080
 That item passes 5-0.

543
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,920
 That will move us to 4B, FP21-0014.

544
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,840
 That is also Haley's item.

545
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:59,200
 All right, good evening.

546
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,160
 This is a final plan for the Eagle Cove edition.

547
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,240
 This is a single-family residential development.

548
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:09,960
 It is located on the south side of Dutchess, as you can see here on the map.

549
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,240
 As with our last item, since the posting of the agenda, the applicant was able to resolve

550
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:18,280
 all of their outstanding comments and staff is recommending approval as it now meets the

551
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,280
 established requirements.

552
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:24,620
 And I am happy to answer any questions.

553
00:35:24,620 --> 00:35:25,620
 Thank you again, Haley.

554
00:35:25,620 --> 00:35:28,680
 Does anyone have any questions for Haley?

555
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,760
 I do not see any.

556
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:38,480
 I will mention that for this item, we had one person make comment using our online form.

557
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:44,180
 There was zero in support, one against, and this comment was emailed to all the commissioners

558
00:35:44,180 --> 00:35:48,920
 and our city secretary to be recorded.

559
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:49,920
 Commissioner Anderson?

560
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,920
 I make a motion to approve.

561
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,760
 Okay, we have a motion on the floor to approve.

562
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:55,760
 Commissioner Cole?

563
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:56,760
 Second.

564
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,400
 Okay, first and a second to approve, FP 210014.

565
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,400
 Any discussion?

566
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:07,040
 Okay, with that, I will call for a vote, be a roll call.

567
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,040
 Commissioner Anderson?

568
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,040
 Aye.

569
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,040
 Commissioner Cole?

570
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,040
 Aye.

571
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,040
 Commissioner Smith?

572
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,040
 Aye.

573
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,040
 Commissioner Pruitt?

574
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,040
 Aye.

575
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,040
 And the chair is also an aye.

576
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,860
 That motion carries 5-0.

577
00:36:20,860 --> 00:36:27,800
 That will move us to 4C, FP 20027B.

578
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:34,520
 The applicant is withdrawing this request at this time, so there will be no action on

579
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,640
 this item tonight.

580
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:46,520
 And we will move to 4D, FP 210013B, and invite Sean Jacobson for presentation.

581
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,000
 Good evening, Chair and members of the commission.

582
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:56,600
 If you'll give me just a moment, I'll go ahead and start my presentation here.

583
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:02,160
 Sorry, one moment.

584
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:22,040
 So, this is a request for a final plat of the Hilltop Road estates addition.

585
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:28,600
 This is approximately 20.7-acre property just off the west side of Hilltop Road in the extraterritorial

586
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:34,560
 jurisdiction, and staff is recommending denial of this request because it does not meet the

587
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,720
 established requirement as outlined in the staff analysis in Exhibit 2.

588
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:47,120
 And with that, I'll be happy to answer any questions.

589
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,440
 I have a question.

590
00:37:49,440 --> 00:38:00,380
 This is Brad Book, not in your property development, doing the development at Hilltop estate subdivision.

591
00:38:00,380 --> 00:38:11,160
 We submitted, and the denial is solely on the engineering.

592
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:16,760
 This is not the platform for this discussion, nor have you been recognized to speak at this

593
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:21,280
 meeting at this time.

594
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,240
 Please get with staff.

595
00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:25,360
 Thank you.

596
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:32,360
 And please mute yourselves.

597
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:37,400
 Thank you.

598
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:56,340
 Are there any questions from the commissioners for Sean?

599
00:38:56,340 --> 00:38:58,760
 Are there any further questions for Sean?

600
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,160
 Okay, I do not see any.

601
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:07,360
 Mr. Book, if you do want to take four minutes of public comment at this time, you may.

602
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:32,800
 Yes, we submitted this, and the issue is we, the landowner to the north of our property

603
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:42,400
 where all of our property drains to, he signed a letter where he wants all the water we can

604
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:48,160
 give him because he was building a bass pond.

605
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:56,040
 And that was submitted for playing, for the plat, for the engineering.

606
00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:03,800
 And then they came back and said, "Well, they want a downstream evaluation."

607
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:15,240
 And we were saying, "Well, they said he accepted all the water, so the downstream evaluation

608
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:19,880
 would be, you know, he's accepting the water."

609
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:20,880
 Okay.

610
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,280
 Well, they denied it because of that, which is one item.

611
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,720
 We're trying to get it approved, such as that one item.

612
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:39,840
 And we went ahead and we ordered surveys for the topography of that bass pond to serve as

613
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:50,080
 our retention pond, which the landowner, Mr. Riley, said he was fine with because he wants

614
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:59,240
 all the water, and that took some time over, you know, the rains and everything, for them

615
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:00,240
 to get out there.

616
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:05,400
 We just got that and ready to resubmit, and our engineer won't take but a couple of days

617
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:15,160
 to resubmit, but I don't know why we even have to do that since he's accepting all the

618
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:23,280
 water, and that would be in his hands, not ours, and it's additional cost and expense,

619
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:31,560
 and having to pay for this resubmittal of the plat is my, I'm understanding, it would

620
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:39,200
 take two weeks for us to have it resubmitted to you all as we meet these comments because

621
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:44,440
 of this downstream evaluation showing that the pond is adequate and that it's a outlet

622
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:49,400
 for the spines going down to, I believe, the Freshy Creek.

623
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:55,800
 But this extra expense in town, I don't know why it couldn't be approved with just that

624
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:06,440
 one comment, with an exception, Sean did tell me that the chairman of that committee is

625
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:17,720
 adamant about not approving anything subject to the engineering of that part, so that is

626
00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:19,960
 my comment on this project.

627
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:25,200
 Thank you, Mr. Book.

628
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:30,600
 Does anyone have any questions?

629
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:38,920
 And I do appreciate your comments, you know, there are criteria to meet for approval.

630
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:46,200
 Once that is met, it can be resubmitted, and it will come to us within a 15-day period

631
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,560
 once it is resubmitted.

632
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,760
 What about the fee for that?

633
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:58,960
 Well, there is a fee for that, yes, and that is something that you can talk with staff

634
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:05,720
 about, now or later.

635
00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:09,840
 No, I would have to be away from the public hearing, but I'll make sure Sean gets with

636
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:10,840
 you on that.

637
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:11,840
 Okay.

638
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:12,840
 Thank you.

639
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:13,840
 Thank you.

640
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:23,040
 Is there any further discussion, commissioners, do you have any questions after that comment

641
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,040
 for Sean?

642
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,320
 Okay, I do not see any, yes, I do.

643
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,320
 Commissioner Anderson.

644
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,720
 Thank you, Chair.

645
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:40,880
 Is there a way, Sean, would you accept maybe a recommendation of pushing this back a couple

646
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:47,200
 of weeks, like, instead of just totally denying it right now, is that something we could entertain?

647
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:55,720
 Well, as you know, we can only approve one extension of a plat, the state only permits

648
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:59,800
 one extension, and they have already requested and received that extension.

649
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:00,800
 Okay.

650
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:01,800
 Thank you.

651
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,360
 Yeah, we're up against that House bill, that's playing a role here.

652
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:13,720
 Okay, no, that's perfectly fine, thank you.

653
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:14,720
 Thank you, Sean.

654
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:19,800
 If you could get with Mr. Book, if he's still on the line, I appreciate it when you can.

655
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,320
 Thank you.

656
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,320
 Is there further discussion?

657
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,400
 If not, we can entertain a motion.

658
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,400
 Commissioner Smith.

659
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:32,600
 I'm Mr. Book, I'm super sorry to hear about this, but as Vice Chair Ellis said, this chalk

660
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,360
 loss got us handcuffed here, that we'd love to be able to extend you back, but not much

661
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:41,080
 we can do based off the state legislator, so I will make a motion to deny.

662
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,080
 Some motion on the floor to deny.

663
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,240
 Commissioner Cole.

664
00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:49,240
 I'll second.

665
00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:54,680
 Okay, we have a first and a second to deny.

666
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,160
 Further discussion?

667
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,840
 Seeing none, we will take a vote via roll call.

668
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:01,840
 Commissioner Smith.

669
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:02,840
 Aye.

670
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:03,840
 Commissioner Cole.

671
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:04,840
 Aye.

672
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,840
 Commissioner Anderson.

673
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:06,840
 Aye.

674
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:07,840
 Commissioner Pruitt.

675
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,840
 Aye.

676
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:17,800
 And the Chair is also an aye, so that motion carries 5-0.

677
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:29,600
 Next item is 4EPP21-0007B, also Sean Jacobson's item.

678
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:42,420
 Go ahead and pull that up.

679
00:45:42,420 --> 00:45:50,520
 This proposal is a request for a preliminary plat, the Vintage Village addition, 51.808

680
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:58,680
 acre property just off Vintage Boulevard, and as the applicant has made the necessary

681
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:04,280
 changes, staff is changing the recommendation to approval of this request as it now meets

682
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,480
 the established requirements.

683
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,480
 With that, we'd be happy to answer any questions.

684
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:17,720
 Commissioners, are there any questions for Sean?

685
00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:18,880
 I do not see any.

686
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:19,880
 Thank you, Sean.

687
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:26,800
 I will mention that for this item, we had one person make comment using the online form.

688
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,120
 Zero in support, one against.

689
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:38,880
 This one comment has been emailed to the commissioners and to the city secretary to be recorded.

690
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,560
 With that, I will entertain a motion or discussion.

691
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:43,560
 Commissioner Smith.

692
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,560
 Make a motion to approve.

693
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,120
 There's a motion on the floor to approve this item.

694
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,120
 Commissioner Cole.

695
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,120
 Second.

696
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:59,840
 It's a first and a second to approve PP210007B.

697
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,520
 With that, I will take a vote via roll call.

698
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:03,520
 Commissioner Smith.

699
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:04,520
 Aye.

700
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,520
 Commissioner Cole.

701
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:06,520
 Aye.

702
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:07,520
 Commissioner Anderson.

703
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:08,520
 Aye.

704
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,000
 Commissioner Pruitt.

705
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,000
 Aye.

706
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,880
 Chair, there's also an aye.

707
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,500
 That motion carries 5-0.

708
00:47:15,500 --> 00:47:24,580
 That will move us to 4F, PP210008A.

709
00:47:24,580 --> 00:47:29,080
 That is Mark Laird's.

710
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,080
 Good evening.

711
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,080
 My name is Mark Laird.

712
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,840
 I'm a planner with the development service department.

713
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,440
 For your review consideration this evening, I have for you the Plenary Plot of S.P.

714
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,240
 Ditten 1, Addition Phase 2.

715
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:46,280
 This property is located along the west line of Western Boulevard and north of Airport

716
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,840
 Road.

717
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:55,040
 After the posting of this agenda, the applicant has addressed all the comments listed within

718
00:47:55,040 --> 00:48:00,640
 Exhibit 2 of the staff analysis, and staff is recommending the approval of this Plenary

719
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:01,640
 Plot.

720
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:07,320
 I stand for any questions that you may have.

721
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,600
 Any questions for Mark on this item?

722
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,400
 I do not see any, Mark.

723
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,640
 Thank you.

724
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:25,880
 Chair, we'll entertain a discussion or a motion.

725
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:34,480
 Okay, well, the Chair will make a motion to approve this item.

726
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:35,480
 Commissioner Cole.

727
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:36,480
 Second.

728
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:42,640
 Okay, there's a motion on the floor to approve PP21008.

729
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,520
 Any discussion?

730
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,280
 Take a vote via roll call.

731
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,280
 Commissioner Cole.

732
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,280
 Aye.

733
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,280
 Commissioner Smith.

734
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,280
 Aye.

735
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,280
 Commissioner Anderson.

736
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:53,280
 Aye.

737
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,280
 Commissioner Pruitt.

738
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:55,280
 Aye.

739
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,440
 Chair is also an aye.

740
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,480
 That motion carries 5-0.

741
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:08,660
 Next item is 4G PP210010.

742
00:49:08,660 --> 00:49:14,040
 That is also Mark Laird's item.

743
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,960
 Good evening again.

744
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:23,020
 For your view and consideration, I have the Plenary Plot for Windsor Oaks, Phase 2 edition.

745
00:49:23,020 --> 00:49:30,200
 This property is generally located along Ferris Road, Silverdome Road, and Cooper Creek Road.

746
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:38,220
 This property is slated for a residential development, and staff is recommending a -- recommended

747
00:49:38,220 --> 00:49:39,220
 now.

748
00:49:39,220 --> 00:49:44,480
 However, the applicant has made a request for a 30-day extension, and staff is in support

749
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,480
 of that request.

750
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:51,040
 And I stand for any questions.

751
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:57,040
 Any questions for Mark on this item?

752
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,340
 I do not see any, Mark.

753
00:49:58,340 --> 00:50:00,080
 Thank you very much.

754
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:06,200
 I will mention that 35 people commented using our online form.

755
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:10,560
 There were three in support of this item, 32 against.

756
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,400
 All of these comments were emailed to the commissioners and to the city secretary to

757
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,560
 be recorded.

758
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:18,560
 Commissioner Smith.

759
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,960
 Make a motion to postpone the date certain of June 23rd.

760
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:28,560
 There's a motion on the floor to approve the applicant's request for an extension.

761
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:29,560
 Commissioner Cole.

762
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:30,560
 Second.

763
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:35,680
 We have a first and a second for that extension request.

764
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,120
 Any discussion?

765
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,480
 Seeing none, I will call for a vote.

766
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:42,480
 Commissioner Smith.

767
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:43,480
 Aye.

768
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:44,480
 Commissioner Cole.

769
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:45,480
 Aye.

770
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:46,480
 Commissioner Anderson.

771
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:47,480
 Aye.

772
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,480
 Commissioner Pruitt.

773
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:49,480
 Aye.

774
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,400
 Chair, there's also an aye.

775
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,600
 That motion carries 5-0.

776
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:07,460
 That will move us to our public hearing items for tonight, 5AZ21-0007.

777
00:51:07,460 --> 00:51:14,060
 I will go ahead and open the public hearing for this item and make mention that staff

778
00:51:14,060 --> 00:51:22,280
 has requested that this item be postponed to a date certain of June 23rd.

779
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,280
 Commissioner Smith.

780
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,920
 Make a motion to postpone this item until date certain of June 23rd.

781
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:32,480
 There's a motion on the floor to postpone per staff request.

782
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:33,480
 Commissioner Anderson.

783
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:34,480
 Second.

784
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:35,480
 The motion.

785
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:40,880
 There's a first and a second on the floor to postpone to a date certain of June 23rd.

786
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,920
 Any discussion?

787
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,000
 Seeing none, I will call for a vote via roll call.

788
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,000
 Commissioner Smith.

789
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,000
 Aye.

790
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,000
 Commissioner Anderson.

791
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,000
 Aye.

792
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,000
 Commissioner Cole.

793
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,000
 Aye.

794
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,000
 Commissioner Pruitt.

795
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,000
 Aye.

796
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,000
 Chair, there's also an aye.

797
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:04,220
 That motion carries 5-0.

798
00:52:04,220 --> 00:52:07,120
 Public hearing has remained open.

799
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:14,840
 Public hearing item 5B, PD21-0001A.

800
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:19,400
 I will open the public hearing for this item.

801
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:32,040
 Staff has requested that this item be postponed to a date certain of June 23rd.

802
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:37,520
 Before that, I will make mention that for this item, we had 36 people make comments

803
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,520
 using our online form.

804
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,280
 There was one in support and 35 against.

805
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:48,840
 All of these comments were emailed to commissioners and to the city secretary to be recorded.

806
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:53,840
 And the public hearing will remain open.

807
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:54,840
 Commissioner Smith.

808
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,520
 Big option to postpone to date certain of June 23rd.

809
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:00,520
 Commissioner Anderson.

810
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:06,280
 Well, I had a comment as well.

811
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:11,360
 After reading all these concerns, it really -- the concerns are valid.

812
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,600
 I have driven that road multiple times.

813
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:20,120
 And those are just two-lane narrow roads, and we're going to add all these houses to

814
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,320
 an already congested area that these roads really can't handle.

815
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,220
 I know the traffic analysis says that they probably can.

816
00:53:28,220 --> 00:53:29,440
 I don't believe it.

817
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,440
 I've driven it.

818
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,840
 I mean, I've driven those roads multiple times.

819
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,980
 And I mean, I do hear the concerns.

820
00:53:36,980 --> 00:53:40,720
 My concern is, are we just kicking a can down the road?

821
00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:45,200
 And it's kind of a catch-22.

822
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:46,200
 We approve it.

823
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,960
 We're going to make people unhappy that already live there.

824
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,280
 And the second part is we're going to make a developer unhappy.

825
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:53,280
 That's okay.

826
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,720
 We've done that before.

827
00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:58,440
 But the thing is, once these people move in, they're going to be unhappy with the traffic

828
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:04,360
 that they're going to have to sit in because the city has failed to build up infrastructure.

829
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:11,240
 So anyway, I just want to put that out there first, and then I'll vote.

830
00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:15,660
 And I appreciate the kind -- we at the moment don't have a presentation and haven't heard

831
00:54:15,660 --> 00:54:16,660
 this item.

832
00:54:16,660 --> 00:54:22,520
 We've opened the public hearing, though staff has requested that we postpone it to the 23rd

833
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:23,520
 of June.

834
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:28,480
 I do have a motion on the floor for that postponement.

835
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:33,080
 Commissioner Cole?

836
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,960
 You're muted.

837
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:42,000
 I'll make a motion to second that, but I still have the same concerns as Commissioner Anderson

838
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,000
 about this.

839
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:49,080
 You know, it seems to me we're putting all these houses in these areas where the infrastructure

840
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,380
 is not even close to being capable of handling it.

841
00:54:53,380 --> 00:54:55,880
 And it's a safety concern.

842
00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:04,160
 I mean, Hickory Creek is the same example, but, you know, when do y'all figure this is

843
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,200
 -- staff figures the roads are going to be ready for this?

844
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,120
 I mean, that's a simple question.

845
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:15,080
 Just their best guess, and I'll be happy and go away.

846
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,800
 And I think without having a presentation from staff, I mean, we can't really engage

847
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,160
 staff in questions on this item.

848
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,160
 We'll wait until June 2nd.

849
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,160
 I second.

850
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:30,280
 All right, we've got a first and a second on the floor to postpone this item to June

851
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,720
 23rd.

852
00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:34,360
 Any discussion on the postponement?

853
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:35,360
 Okay.

854
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,160
 Seeing none, I will call for a vote, be a roll call.

855
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,160
 Commissioner Smith?

856
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,160
 Aye.

857
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,160
 Commissioner Cole?

858
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,160
 Aye.

859
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,400
 Commissioner Anderson?

860
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:45,400
 Aye.

861
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:46,760
 Commissioner Pruitt?

862
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:47,760
 Aye.

863
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,880
 Chair, there's also an aye.

864
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,480
 That item will be postponed to June 23rd.

865
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,440
 The public hearing has remained open.

866
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:03,040
 That moves us to 5CPD 20009B.

867
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:07,120
 I will call Haley up for presentation and open the public hearing.

868
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:08,120
 Right.

869
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,600
 Good evening.

870
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:16,560
 Let me get this shared.

871
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:21,200
 Jump back to the beginning here.

872
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:22,200
 All right.

873
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:28,840
 So this is the Parkside Plan Development PD 20009.

874
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:33,400
 The request before you this evening is to rezone the subject property outlined in yellow

875
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,960
 on this map from Rural Residential District to Plan Development District.

876
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,320
 The property is a total of 62.39 acres.

877
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:45,960
 As you can see, it is located on the north side of Hickory Creek Road and is south of

878
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,840
 the Creekdale Drive extension.

879
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:53,680
 The subject property was annexed fairly recently in 2018.

880
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,780
 It was part of a larger annexation that also included this area here.

881
00:56:57,780 --> 00:57:00,240
 I believe I had said at work session that was 92 acres.

882
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:03,960
 There was actually a total of 86 acres for all of this.

883
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:08,960
 All of that property then received the placeholder designation of RD5X.

884
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:14,160
 And that's because an initial zoning was not assigned during that interim period that

885
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:19,960
 then transitioned to the RR District with the adoption of the 2019 DDC.

886
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,960
 You may recall there was a past request for rezoning on this property to a neighborhood

887
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:29,640
 residential 4 district that was denied due to traffic concerns on Hickory Creek Road.

888
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,400
 So this just in the event that you remember that I wanted to point out that this request

889
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,400
 is not related to that.

890
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:40,060
 It is a different different group than who requested the rezoning in the past.

891
00:57:40,060 --> 00:57:43,440
 This is just a snapshot of what our current zoning map looks like in this area.

892
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,160
 So you can see the subject property with the RR designation.

893
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:52,120
 All of the areas shown in white on this map are still in the city's ETJ.

894
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,280
 And then this is what that zoning map would look like with the plan development if this

895
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,840
 were approved.

896
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,600
 We'll start by looking at the development plan for this proposed PD.

897
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,760
 Again, it is a total of 69 acres.

898
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:11,360
 You can see here the residential portion of the development is contained within the north

899
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:12,900
 side of the property.

900
00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:18,880
 The PD reflects a maximum of 156 residential lots that you can see here.

901
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:23,840
 There are some areas that would be HOA maintained common areas such as this detention here.

902
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:28,120
 And then some of these areas on the perimeter of the site such as on the north end and here

903
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,080
 on the south eastern part of the site.

904
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:36,520
 The area outlined in yellow on this map is approximately 4.6 acres that has been identified

905
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:42,220
 as a need, a right of way need for the Hickory Creek Road CIP project.

906
00:58:42,220 --> 00:58:48,160
 This area would not just be for the future roadway, but would also be for drainage infrastructure

907
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:52,440
 and bridge infrastructure for that project, which we'll look at a little bit later how

908
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,960
 that road will be realigned.

909
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:02,760
 And then the 23 acres here outlined in red is what is proposed as park dedication.

910
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:08,560
 So this particular PD has been proposed as a cluster subdivision, which is an option

911
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:14,080
 our code allows in our subdivision standards for areas where they may be looking for smaller

912
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:18,280
 lots than what would normally be proposed, but they propose to cluster those in one part

913
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:23,240
 of the site as a trade off for significant open space conservation and preservation on

914
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,020
 another part of the site.

915
00:59:25,020 --> 00:59:30,800
 The open space that is set aside, the code does require to be permanently protected either

916
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,600
 it gives several options.

917
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:37,720
 You could put that in a land trust for preservation or you could dedicate that land to the city

918
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,720
 as a parkland and that is what is proposed in this case.

919
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:46,560
 For a cluster subdivision, you do have to meet a minimum 30% total open space.

920
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:52,640
 So for this development, they're at 37% open space with that total 23 acres.

921
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:57,100
 That is broken down with a total of 18 acres being floodplain environmentally sensitive

922
00:59:57,100 --> 01:00:01,800
 area and then a total of five acres that are outside of the floodplain and are not part

923
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,220
 of the ESA.

924
01:00:04,220 --> 01:00:07,640
 As we talked about at the work session, I did want to point out that that 4.6 acres

925
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:12,520
 for right-of-way is an environmentally sensitive area that is part of the floodplain and is

926
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,720
 part of a water related habitat.

927
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,800
 The city's environmentally sensitive area code does allow for mobility plan roadways

928
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,920
 as an exception to those ESA requirements, so they wouldn't have to go through that alternative

929
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:29,120
 ESA process, but the code does dictate that after the roadway improvements are made to

930
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:34,840
 the greatest extent possible, that work be done in conjunction with our environmental

931
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:40,160
 services department to restore whatever is left of that land to try to encourage the

932
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:45,720
 regrowth and reestablishment of those ESAs.

933
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:50,200
 Then looking at the plan development standards, the important thing here is to note that they're

934
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:54,960
 not proposing to take advantage of the minimums that are allowed for cluster subdivision.

935
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,720
 They could propose lots as small as 2,500 square feet, what the applicant has proposed

936
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:03,640
 is to make their development consistent with the R6 standards.

937
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:07,560
 So those lots would have a minimum area of 6,000 square feet, they would have to meet

938
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:12,840
 the minimum 50 by 80 lot dimensions, as well as the minimum setbacks that are established

939
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:13,840
 for R6.

940
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,440
 They would follow all the same requirements for height and building coverage on those

941
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:18,600
 lots.

942
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:23,720
 The significant difference here is that knowing that R6 is not necessarily consistent with

943
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:28,280
 the zoning in this area, they're proposing this cluster option because they are proposing

944
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:33,640
 to dedicate this 37% of their land area as parkland, which is above and beyond the minimum

945
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:34,640
 requirements.

946
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:38,480
 And we'll look at that a little more closely.

947
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,460
 So moving into the criteria for approval, we do have 13 general criteria that apply

948
01:01:42,460 --> 01:01:46,840
 to all applications that you all are probably familiar with from our plat applications and

949
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,280
 everything else.

950
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,780
 I won't go into these in detail, but we will talk about several of them.

951
01:01:51,780 --> 01:01:56,160
 As we look at the six PD specific criteria.

952
01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:01,320
 So going through those one by one, the first is consistency with our comprehensive plan.

953
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:05,760
 So of course, the main component to look at there is our future land use map.

954
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:11,600
 This area, as you can see, all of the yellow area is designated for low density residential.

955
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:16,880
 The comp plan calls for that as single family homes at one to four dwelling units per acre.

956
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:21,840
 This proposed PD does have a gross density of 2.6.

957
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,160
 Again with that large area of open space, as we talked about at work session, if you

958
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:30,520
 were to net that out, they would be at over at approximately 4.4 units per acre.

959
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:35,600
 However, it's also important to look at the character of the area and in the spirit of

960
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,860
 low density residential development, again, they do have that open space area, but they're

961
01:02:39,860 --> 01:02:44,780
 also consistent with the development pattern in terms of the types of homes and the size

962
01:02:44,780 --> 01:02:49,320
 of lots that we find in this part of the city.

963
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,260
 The second criterion is compliance with the development code.

964
01:02:53,260 --> 01:02:58,600
 So as you have in your backup, their PD standards and their development plan are proposed to

965
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:03,680
 be consistent with the R6 district in every way they all of the deviations that they're

966
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,800
 proposing are shown on that plan and outlined in those development standards.

967
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,880
 So there are no other significant deviations.

968
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,780
 As you're familiar with, they would, of course, be required to comply with landscaping tree

969
01:03:14,780 --> 01:03:19,040
 preservation and all of those other standards in the DDC that are not called out as specific

970
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:23,040
 deviations as part of the PD.

971
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:27,720
 The third criterion is that whether the proposal would provide for greater building design

972
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:31,720
 amenities and connectivity than what we would get with their DDC standards.

973
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,940
 In terms of building design, they're proposing to be consistent with the single family design

974
01:03:35,940 --> 01:03:38,380
 standards in our code.

975
01:03:38,380 --> 01:03:43,000
 The enhancements that they are proposing are related to open space and amenities.

976
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:49,320
 So in terms of open space, again, we're looking at this 23 acres that would be parkland dedication.

977
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:54,840
 To break that down a little bit further, 18.7 acres is what the 30% requirement would be

978
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,920
 as a cluster subdivision.

979
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:01,100
 And then 1.09 acres is what would be required as parkland dedication.

980
01:04:01,100 --> 01:04:05,680
 So when you total all of that up, they're providing a greater acreage than what would

981
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:10,640
 be strictly required by either of those components if they were to stand alone.

982
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,600
 In terms of connectivity, they would be improving the connectivity of this area.

983
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,120
 They would be extending Creekdale along their northern perimeter here.

984
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:22,900
 They do have connectivity through that would then connect here at their primary entrance

985
01:04:22,900 --> 01:04:24,900
 off of Hickory Creek Road.

986
01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:28,580
 And then they are providing this future stub out on the east side of the property.

987
01:04:28,580 --> 01:04:32,100
 And if this map were zoomed out a little, you would see, I believe it's River Pass that

988
01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:36,940
 runs north to south there and the adjacent subdivision just to the east has a street

989
01:04:36,940 --> 01:04:40,820
 stub that would roughly align with this to provide a future connection point when and

990
01:04:40,820 --> 01:04:44,380
 if this property develops further.

991
01:04:44,380 --> 01:04:48,540
 And the developer has further worked with our parks department and has indicated that

992
01:04:48,540 --> 01:04:52,460
 they intend to work with them moving forward to provide some trails through this area,

993
01:04:52,460 --> 01:04:56,140
 which are generally kind of conceptually shown on those plans in your backup.

994
01:04:56,140 --> 01:04:59,420
 And they're proposing that those trails would connect at all of their street connection

995
01:04:59,420 --> 01:05:04,060
 points, which I indicated here as red stars, so that there would be greater pedestrian

996
01:05:04,060 --> 01:05:07,860
 connectivity through this area that could then play into our parks department's master

997
01:05:07,860 --> 01:05:12,340
 trail plan as they hopefully extend trails throughout the city's floodplain corridors

998
01:05:12,340 --> 01:05:16,420
 and utility corridors.

999
01:05:16,420 --> 01:05:20,860
 Criterion four is specific to residential uses and that looks at whether they are compatible

1000
01:05:20,860 --> 01:05:25,100
 in terms of the types of buildings and uses proposed as well as consistent with the character

1001
01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:26,900
 of the area.

1002
01:05:26,900 --> 01:05:31,260
 This PD would limit primary residential uses to single-family, which is shown on their

1003
01:05:31,260 --> 01:05:36,300
 plans and which is consistent with the pattern of development we see in this area.

1004
01:05:36,300 --> 01:05:40,760
 As I indicated at the work session, their minimum lot size of 6,000 square feet is generally

1005
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,020
 consistent with other subdivisions in the area.

1006
01:05:43,020 --> 01:05:48,780
 We do have some larger lot subdivisions such as Thistle Hills, but many of the newer subdivisions,

1007
01:05:48,780 --> 01:05:54,920
 I believe Ryan Meadows and Ryan Ranch, do have lot sizes with an average of 6,000 square

1008
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:56,580
 feet consistent with this.

1009
01:05:56,580 --> 01:05:59,860
 So they're not out of character for what we see in this part of Denton between Ryan Road

1010
01:05:59,860 --> 01:06:01,420
 and Hickory Creek.

1011
01:06:01,420 --> 01:06:05,000
 And again, their building design would follow our DDC standards and so would therefore be

1012
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:10,020
 consistent with what we see in the larger area.

1013
01:06:10,020 --> 01:06:14,700
 Criterion five is specific to non-residential uses within a PD and looks at whether they

1014
01:06:14,700 --> 01:06:19,480
 are appropriate in terms of their location and the planning and the area.

1015
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:23,840
 So in this case, we do have the 23 acres of parkland that's proposed.

1016
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,080
 As I mentioned, the developer has been coordinating with our parks department throughout this

1017
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:31,860
 review process to make sure that the land area that they're proposing is desirable for

1018
01:06:31,860 --> 01:06:35,360
 a neighborhood park suitable for that neighborhood park.

1019
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,840
 They do have that five acres of land outside of the flood plain that would be available

1020
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:43,520
 for future park amenities if any structures were desired to be placed there.

1021
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:48,340
 And again, they do meet and exceed the requirements for both the cluster subdivision open space

1022
01:06:48,340 --> 01:06:54,060
 preservation as well as park dedication requirements.

1023
01:06:54,060 --> 01:06:56,460
 Criterion six is the provision of public facilities.

1024
01:06:56,460 --> 01:06:59,740
 So we'll go through these one by one with respect to schools.

1025
01:06:59,740 --> 01:07:04,720
 You can see the expected student generation and those attendance boundaries that ISD did

1026
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:09,740
 confirm this information and indicated that all of these schools have adequate capacity

1027
01:07:09,740 --> 01:07:14,500
 to serve that expected student generation.

1028
01:07:14,500 --> 01:07:18,920
 With respect to fire, our fire department analyzed this and determined that they are

1029
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,820
 within the desired eight minute or less response time boundary.

1030
01:07:22,820 --> 01:07:26,920
 That response would be from fire station six, which is indicated here on the map with the

1031
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,920
 red F.

1032
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:34,200
 And so they do meet that requirement in terms of law enforcement because of the consistency

1033
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:35,980
 with what we have in this area already.

1034
01:07:35,980 --> 01:07:41,860
 There was not an identified risk for increased nuisance or crime rates that would be significant

1035
01:07:41,860 --> 01:07:46,140
 above what we already see in the area.

1036
01:07:46,140 --> 01:07:51,240
 In terms of utilities, this map shows our water lines in blue and sewer lines in red.

1037
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:55,660
 So you can see that those utilities were stubbed to this development with the development to

1038
01:07:55,660 --> 01:07:56,660
 the north.

1039
01:07:56,660 --> 01:07:59,540
 So they will be able to tie into that and provide those loops and connections through

1040
01:07:59,540 --> 01:08:03,500
 the subdivision to serve the homes.

1041
01:08:03,500 --> 01:08:06,060
 And then we'll look at streets a little more closely.

1042
01:08:06,060 --> 01:08:12,100
 So they do have an expected trip generation of approximately 1,400 daily trips based on

1043
01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:13,660
 156 homes.

1044
01:08:13,660 --> 01:08:17,140
 So some of the improvements that will be made to serve this would be those perimeter street

1045
01:08:17,140 --> 01:08:21,580
 improvements on Creekdale that would extend this roadway from its current terminus here

1046
01:08:21,580 --> 01:08:25,580
 at the corner of the property across their frontage.

1047
01:08:25,580 --> 01:08:30,700
 We do have, as you can see here on our mobility plan, this red dashed line indicates what

1048
01:08:30,700 --> 01:08:34,820
 was at the time in 2015 thought to be the future alignment for Hickory Creek Road as

1049
01:08:34,820 --> 01:08:37,100
 a primary arterial.

1050
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:42,860
 Through CIP planning with city council, it was determined that that road needed to be

1051
01:08:42,860 --> 01:08:49,660
 to realigned out of this plan and instead will be going generally in the location of

1052
01:08:49,660 --> 01:08:51,320
 this orange dashed line.

1053
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,200
 So straight across the floodplain.

1054
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:58,060
 So as I mentioned, that 4.6 acres is needed for drainage improvements and bridge improvements

1055
01:08:58,060 --> 01:09:02,020
 that would occur here as that bridge takes off and goes over the floodplain to realign

1056
01:09:02,020 --> 01:09:05,280
 here with Brush Creek Road further to the west.

1057
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,000
 So that is an ongoing CIP project.

1058
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:12,460
 It's actually phase three of the Hickory Creek development or the Hickory Creek project.

1059
01:09:12,460 --> 01:09:17,180
 They are, I believe, beyond the 90% completion point with those plans.

1060
01:09:17,180 --> 01:09:20,400
 So it is a very firm set of plans.

1061
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:24,620
 You can see here at the bottom of the screen that proposed cross section for what Hickory

1062
01:09:24,620 --> 01:09:26,620
 Creek would be expanded to.

1063
01:09:26,620 --> 01:09:31,080
 It would be a four lane divided section with turn lanes accommodated and the right of way

1064
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:35,860
 is sufficient to accommodate the expansion to six lanes in the future.

1065
01:09:35,860 --> 01:09:41,380
 Specific to this project, they did a turn lane analysis and determined that a right

1066
01:09:41,380 --> 01:09:44,740
 turn lane would be needed into this development or would be merited.

1067
01:09:44,740 --> 01:09:48,620
 That would require coordination with this adjacent property owner as well as the CIP

1068
01:09:48,620 --> 01:09:49,620
 project.

1069
01:09:49,620 --> 01:09:54,720
 The city's plans already included a left turn lane and median opening into this development.

1070
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,180
 So that coordination with the right turn lane is what will be required in the future that

1071
01:09:58,180 --> 01:10:02,540
 will be further looked at with their with their civil engineering plans if this development

1072
01:10:02,540 --> 01:10:05,700
 moves forward.

1073
01:10:05,700 --> 01:10:10,020
 And then finally, with respect to parks, it's important to note that this development does

1074
01:10:10,020 --> 01:10:13,860
 meet the Parks Department's goal of a 10 minute walk to a park.

1075
01:10:13,860 --> 01:10:18,740
 We do have Cross Timbers Park, which is shaded in green on this map, and they would meet

1076
01:10:18,740 --> 01:10:21,380
 that goal, although just barely.

1077
01:10:21,380 --> 01:10:26,100
 But the provision of this future neighborhood park on the western side of this property

1078
01:10:26,100 --> 01:10:31,260
 would enhance other developments access to parks as some of these area neighborhoods

1079
01:10:31,260 --> 01:10:33,740
 that are already here are outside of that response time boundaries.

1080
01:10:33,740 --> 01:10:40,380
 So this would increase general accessibility to parks within this area.

1081
01:10:40,380 --> 01:10:46,520
 Public outreach was provided as as we normally do the end of the newspaper website and mailings.

1082
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:50,260
 The property also had signs posted as is required.

1083
01:10:50,260 --> 01:10:53,180
 We've received no written responses to date.

1084
01:10:53,180 --> 01:10:56,540
 The applicant did hold a neighborhood meeting in April via zoom.

1085
01:10:56,540 --> 01:11:01,660
 They had one neighbor attend as well as one council member, but there that neighbor I

1086
01:11:01,660 --> 01:11:06,620
 believe was the the landowner that is selling the property who is retaining for other properties

1087
01:11:06,620 --> 01:11:07,780
 in the area.

1088
01:11:07,780 --> 01:11:13,500
 There was no discussion with with other neighbors and residents in the area at that time.

1089
01:11:13,500 --> 01:11:17,440
 And finally, Seth is recommending approval of this request as it complies with our criteria

1090
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:21,020
 for approval, both general and specific to a PD.

1091
01:11:21,020 --> 01:11:25,060
 And the next step for this project after PNC would be a public hearing, which is scheduled

1092
01:11:25,060 --> 01:11:27,580
 for June 15 at City Council.

1093
01:11:27,580 --> 01:11:30,940
 And I will stop sharing now and happy to answer any questions.

1094
01:11:30,940 --> 01:11:35,060
 And the applicant is also on the line and has a brief presentation.

1095
01:11:35,060 --> 01:11:36,060
 Thank you, Haley.

1096
01:11:36,060 --> 01:11:37,060
 Commissioner Cole.

1097
01:11:37,060 --> 01:11:40,300
 Thank you, Chair Haley.

1098
01:11:40,300 --> 01:11:44,380
 What's the timeline on the Hickory Creek Road expansions?

1099
01:11:44,380 --> 01:11:45,380
 Let me see.

1100
01:11:45,380 --> 01:11:46,380
 I do have that information.

1101
01:11:46,380 --> 01:11:51,620
 I believe they are planned, I think, for start in twenty twenty two, it would be approximately

1102
01:11:51,620 --> 01:11:52,620
 two years.

1103
01:11:52,620 --> 01:11:58,500
 But let me get to that file and confirm that for you.

1104
01:11:58,500 --> 01:12:02,860
 I believe there was a slight delay because there was some federal funding that became

1105
01:12:02,860 --> 01:12:07,580
 available that required some additional text review of the plans.

1106
01:12:07,580 --> 01:12:18,540
 But let me confirm what that latest date is.

1107
01:12:18,540 --> 01:12:22,380
 Yes, the plan, I believe, is to go to construction in twenty twenty two and then they're estimating

1108
01:12:22,380 --> 01:12:25,500
 a two year completion for this phase.

1109
01:12:25,500 --> 01:12:31,860
 So the development developers here for this project, they're going to start immediately.

1110
01:12:31,860 --> 01:12:37,300
 Well, of course, they would have the standard process to go through, which we could estimate

1111
01:12:37,300 --> 01:12:40,540
 several months probably to get through planning and civil engineering.

1112
01:12:40,540 --> 01:12:46,540
 But yes, my understanding is they would be seeking to start construction soon after that.

1113
01:12:46,540 --> 01:12:49,580
 But they're on the line and could better speak to what their timing would be.

1114
01:12:49,580 --> 01:12:53,980
 Because this is a worry, again, just like the other.

1115
01:12:53,980 --> 01:13:00,740
 The roads can't at present can't take it.

1116
01:13:00,740 --> 01:13:04,420
 And what did you say the housing density is going to be?

1117
01:13:04,420 --> 01:13:09,260
 So you gave to Commissioner Smith that answer and I forgot what it was.

1118
01:13:09,260 --> 01:13:10,260
 Yes.

1119
01:13:10,260 --> 01:13:15,260
 So gross density for this development is roughly two and a half units per acre.

1120
01:13:15,260 --> 01:13:20,120
 If you netted out the twenty three acres of open space, the remaining acreage would have

1121
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:25,140
 a density of about four point four units per acre.

1122
01:13:25,140 --> 01:13:32,980
 Four point four per acre and it.

1123
01:13:32,980 --> 01:13:44,500
 Commissioner Smith, thank you, Mr. To Commissioner Cole's point, I was going to ask about the

1124
01:13:44,500 --> 01:13:49,660
 time on angry, angry, but Haley, just kind of give us a rough idea from my just my time

1125
01:13:49,660 --> 01:13:56,820
 on the commission from a zoning change, what this is to actual full completion and build

1126
01:13:56,820 --> 01:13:59,380
 out and people moving in.

1127
01:13:59,380 --> 01:14:05,780
 You're talking about three years usually for them for for a lot of two and a half.

1128
01:14:05,780 --> 01:14:11,020
 It's kind of like a earliest couple, you know, I go through engineering, plotting and then

1129
01:14:11,020 --> 01:14:14,300
 actual construction and the sailing point, selling point, everything else.

1130
01:14:14,300 --> 01:14:20,060
 So it's it's not it's probably not going to be done and completed next year.

1131
01:14:20,060 --> 01:14:24,780
 No, it would you know, the plotting process alone, of course, now with the shot clock

1132
01:14:24,780 --> 01:14:30,020
 is somewhat expedited, but typically we see that as a several month process to get through

1133
01:14:30,020 --> 01:14:35,620
 preliminary plotting, civil engineering, design, all of the associated drainage studies and

1134
01:14:35,620 --> 01:14:39,580
 then and then to get to final plant where they they could get that notice to proceed

1135
01:14:39,580 --> 01:14:40,580
 on their public improvements.

1136
01:14:40,580 --> 01:14:45,420
 And then, of course, construction, not sure exactly what that timeline would be in terms

1137
01:14:45,420 --> 01:14:50,180
 of them putting in the utilities and roadways, but I would say probably that two, two and

1138
01:14:50,180 --> 01:14:55,120
 a half year estimate that you gave is probably fairly accurate, but I believe the applicant

1139
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:58,940
 could could certainly provide you more details on what their intended timing is for everything.

1140
01:14:58,940 --> 01:14:59,940
 Understood.

1141
01:14:59,940 --> 01:15:02,940
 Thank you.

1142
01:15:02,940 --> 01:15:04,380
 Any other questions for Haley?

1143
01:15:04,380 --> 01:15:08,220
 Sorry, I'll still take before I had one more.

1144
01:15:08,220 --> 01:15:09,220
 I'm sorry.

1145
01:15:09,220 --> 01:15:10,220
 I'm sorry.

1146
01:15:10,220 --> 01:15:14,900
 The Haley, it's one hundred and seventy five units, correct.

1147
01:15:14,900 --> 01:15:15,900
 One fifty six.

1148
01:15:15,900 --> 01:15:16,900
 One fifty six.

1149
01:15:16,900 --> 01:15:19,420
 I think.

1150
01:15:19,420 --> 01:15:21,180
 Mr. Prude, I think you had your hand up.

1151
01:15:21,180 --> 01:15:22,340
 I did.

1152
01:15:22,340 --> 01:15:27,580
 Just real quick, I guess on your criterion three, if you could go back to that slide.

1153
01:15:27,580 --> 01:15:28,580
 Sure.

1154
01:15:28,580 --> 01:15:36,560
 On those items that are requested to be over and above the DDC requirements.

1155
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:41,900
 I think it was a yeah.

1156
01:15:41,900 --> 01:15:53,140
 Just for my understanding on the yeah on the connectivity pieces of this, which which portions

1157
01:15:53,140 --> 01:16:01,060
 of these connectivity benefits would not be required by the standard DDC?

1158
01:16:01,060 --> 01:16:05,340
 So the the roadway connections would be fairly standard.

1159
01:16:05,340 --> 01:16:08,660
 The trail components would definitely be above and beyond.

1160
01:16:08,660 --> 01:16:11,940
 Certainly with a single family subdivision, we would just have the standard sidewalks

1161
01:16:11,940 --> 01:16:13,580
 along the streets.

1162
01:16:13,580 --> 01:16:18,620
 They are providing those connections to the future park trail.

1163
01:16:18,620 --> 01:16:22,740
 Their conceptual plans indicated some some rough alignments of trails that they've talked

1164
01:16:22,740 --> 01:16:23,980
 about with our parks department.

1165
01:16:23,980 --> 01:16:28,820
 Those are not set in stone yet, but that trail connection would definitely be above and beyond

1166
01:16:28,820 --> 01:16:31,100
 the standard that we would see with the DDC.

1167
01:16:31,100 --> 01:16:37,060
 OK, so those trail connections are are essentially voluntary within the standard DDC unless it's

1168
01:16:37,060 --> 01:16:40,740
 extending an existing trail feature from the border.

1169
01:16:40,740 --> 01:16:41,740
 So we did.

1170
01:16:41,740 --> 01:16:46,820
 The code would require connection to any any trails that are established in the area.

1171
01:16:46,820 --> 01:16:51,380
 But typical process, if someone were going to dedicate parkland, they would dedicate

1172
01:16:51,380 --> 01:16:52,500
 that.

1173
01:16:52,500 --> 01:16:57,740
 They could potentially develop that park, but it's it's very rare that we see that the

1174
01:16:57,740 --> 01:17:00,740
 developer do that park development themselves.

1175
01:17:00,740 --> 01:17:05,100
 Razor Ranch is one recent example that comes to mind where the developer actually did complete

1176
01:17:05,100 --> 01:17:06,820
 the park themselves.

1177
01:17:06,820 --> 01:17:08,740
 But normally, that is not something that's required.

1178
01:17:08,740 --> 01:17:12,020
 It's a fee that's paid at building permit to allow our parks department to do that work

1179
01:17:12,020 --> 01:17:13,020
 in the future.

1180
01:17:13,020 --> 01:17:18,540
 OK, thank you.

1181
01:17:18,540 --> 01:17:20,980
 Any other questions for Haley at this time?

1182
01:17:20,980 --> 01:17:26,500
 Haley, I've got one it has to do with the parcel of land that's to the east of this

1183
01:17:26,500 --> 01:17:27,500
 site.

1184
01:17:27,500 --> 01:17:28,500
 Right.

1185
01:17:28,500 --> 01:17:29,500
 Do you know anything about that?

1186
01:17:29,500 --> 01:17:36,660
 It looks like there's a maybe just a single family residence there, maybe some ag land.

1187
01:17:36,660 --> 01:17:44,380
 Because you mentioned like a stub out maybe, you know, meeting see, this might be the best

1188
01:17:44,380 --> 01:17:45,380
 map I have.

1189
01:17:45,380 --> 01:17:49,780
 Of course, it's going to make me jump back through here.

1190
01:17:49,780 --> 01:17:50,780
 Yes.

1191
01:17:50,780 --> 01:17:56,820
 So when when this development occurred further east, they stubbed out River Chase Road right

1192
01:17:56,820 --> 01:17:57,820
 here.

1193
01:17:57,820 --> 01:18:02,140
 And that that is what their intended stub out to the east would ultimately connect to would

1194
01:18:02,140 --> 01:18:05,820
 be this this crossing here.

1195
01:18:05,820 --> 01:18:10,380
 This parcel is developed, I believe there is a residential dwelling.

1196
01:18:10,380 --> 01:18:13,260
 There is also a gas well on that property.

1197
01:18:13,260 --> 01:18:18,700
 But this is currently in the ETJ, so I'm not aware of any plans for development at that

1198
01:18:18,700 --> 01:18:20,660
 time on this property.

1199
01:18:20,660 --> 01:18:24,700
 But that that would be the ultimate goal that that we would have connection between these

1200
01:18:24,700 --> 01:18:27,060
 two points at some time in the future.

1201
01:18:27,060 --> 01:18:29,660
 OK, thank you.

1202
01:18:29,660 --> 01:18:34,700
 OK, don't see any further questions for Haley.

1203
01:18:34,700 --> 01:18:38,780
 So I could invite the applicant if you would like to present at this time.

1204
01:18:38,780 --> 01:18:42,320
 Yes, ma'am, can you hear me?

1205
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,820
 We can hear you if you will state your name and address, you will have 10 minutes for

1206
01:18:45,820 --> 01:18:46,820
 your presentation.

1207
01:18:46,820 --> 01:18:47,820
 Yes, ma'am.

1208
01:18:47,820 --> 01:18:48,820
 Thank you very much.

1209
01:18:48,820 --> 01:18:50,300
 My name is Jerry Silo.

1210
01:18:50,300 --> 01:18:55,860
 I'm with JBI Partners 2121 Midway Road in Carrollton, Texas.

1211
01:18:55,860 --> 01:19:01,100
 We do represent the applicant on this request, the applicant being First Texas Homes for

1212
01:19:01,100 --> 01:19:04,900
 this rezoning request.

1213
01:19:04,900 --> 01:19:06,820
 Haley, do you have our presentation?

1214
01:19:06,820 --> 01:19:08,420
 Yes, I do.

1215
01:19:08,420 --> 01:19:14,300
 OK, if you can just pass the title slide, go to the second slide.

1216
01:19:14,300 --> 01:19:19,900
 This is just a quick aerial of showing where the property is located in relation to the

1217
01:19:19,900 --> 01:19:20,900
 surrounding areas.

1218
01:19:20,900 --> 01:19:27,260
 We're on the north side of Hickory Creek Road, just just south of Creekdale Drive and a little

1219
01:19:27,260 --> 01:19:32,180
 farther south of Ryan Road.

1220
01:19:32,180 --> 01:19:35,900
 Obviously, Haley goes through a very detailed presentation.

1221
01:19:35,900 --> 01:19:39,820
 In my opinion, there's no reason for me to reiterate most of what Haley says.

1222
01:19:39,820 --> 01:19:44,160
 So I'm going to try to focus on a few different things in my portion of the presentation.

1223
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,060
 So Haley, if you could go to the next slide, please.

1224
01:19:47,060 --> 01:19:50,620
 This should be a slide of the concept plan.

1225
01:19:50,620 --> 01:19:56,740
 And I would like to start off saying that the design of the plan, the design of the

1226
01:19:56,740 --> 01:20:02,180
 standards has been a very collaborative process between our team and the city's team, be it

1227
01:20:02,180 --> 01:20:04,900
 planning department, parks department, engineering department.

1228
01:20:04,900 --> 01:20:09,660
 Obviously, there have been a lot of players involved because of the expansion of Hickory

1229
01:20:09,660 --> 01:20:15,460
 Creek Road, the railroad crossing and the impact of being able to raise the road across

1230
01:20:15,460 --> 01:20:22,580
 the railroad, working with the parks department on the floodplain and the upland properties

1231
01:20:22,580 --> 01:20:28,780
 for park development, working with transportation department, with accessing for primarily Hickory

1232
01:20:28,780 --> 01:20:34,620
 Creek and all the implications of the new road construction out there.

1233
01:20:34,620 --> 01:20:36,860
 So we've been working very closely with everybody.

1234
01:20:36,860 --> 01:20:39,300
 This has not been a quick process.

1235
01:20:39,300 --> 01:20:42,380
 We have taken a number of months to work through this.

1236
01:20:42,380 --> 01:20:49,180
 And the one thing that we obviously recognize from day one is that we have a tremendous

1237
01:20:49,180 --> 01:20:53,220
 attribute on the property, and that is the 18 acres of floodplain.

1238
01:20:53,220 --> 01:20:58,620
 As you can see on our concept plan, our primary entrance is going to be from Hickory Creek

1239
01:20:58,620 --> 01:21:00,020
 Road.

1240
01:21:00,020 --> 01:21:05,380
 And so we have proposed it's approximately a thousand feet from Hickory Creek Road before

1241
01:21:05,380 --> 01:21:06,660
 you get to our first lot.

1242
01:21:06,660 --> 01:21:09,420
 So that's going to be our entrance drive into the neighborhood.

1243
01:21:09,420 --> 01:21:11,620
 And that's really going to create that sense of arrival.

1244
01:21:11,620 --> 01:21:15,780
 You're going to have nothing but the park on the west side of you.

1245
01:21:15,780 --> 01:21:19,980
 There's a couple of ponds out there immediately, the one will be eliminated, but the northern

1246
01:21:19,980 --> 01:21:21,940
 pond will stay in place.

1247
01:21:21,940 --> 01:21:24,660
 And this will ultimately be city parkland.

1248
01:21:24,660 --> 01:21:30,120
 So we thought that was a great way to set our neighborhood apart from a lot of other

1249
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:36,500
 neighborhoods to show that we are sensitive to the environmental nature of what is going

1250
01:21:36,500 --> 01:21:38,180
 on out here.

1251
01:21:38,180 --> 01:21:43,500
 And the city code allows for that with the cluster development type scenario, where obviously

1252
01:21:43,500 --> 01:21:48,900
 if something is environmentally sensitive, it's in everybody's benefit, be it the developers,

1253
01:21:48,900 --> 01:21:54,940
 be it the cities, and ultimately the homeowners that live out here, to preserve it if we can.

1254
01:21:54,940 --> 01:21:59,140
 And what the city allows for is, for lack of a better term, the city allows for a carrot

1255
01:21:59,140 --> 01:22:05,060
 to be given to the development community, to give incentives to sort of try to make

1256
01:22:05,060 --> 01:22:09,540
 everybody realize that there is benefit to those environmentally sensitive areas.

1257
01:22:09,540 --> 01:22:14,220
 And those 18 acres of floodplain, is that in this area?

1258
01:22:14,220 --> 01:22:20,380
 I know there were some questions raised during the briefing session, and it's a little misunderstanding

1259
01:22:20,380 --> 01:22:24,620
 that the floodplain can't be redeveloped and reclaimed because the vast majority of floodplain

1260
01:22:24,620 --> 01:22:27,740
 can be reclaimed and redeveloped.

1261
01:22:27,740 --> 01:22:29,920
 It's a little tough in some instances.

1262
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:34,540
 With this specific piece of property, it's quite a bit easier because basically the railroad

1263
01:22:34,540 --> 01:22:40,780
 creates a dam, so we are not impacting our neighbors on the other side of the floodplain,

1264
01:22:40,780 --> 01:22:42,820
 on the western side of the floodplain.

1265
01:22:42,820 --> 01:22:48,020
 So we have a lot more flexibility to reclaim some of this 18 acres.

1266
01:22:48,020 --> 01:22:52,780
 We have chosen not to do that though, because of what we see as the benefit for it.

1267
01:22:52,780 --> 01:22:58,740
 Additionally, as Haley mentioned, we are proposing to dedicate an additional five acres of land.

1268
01:22:58,740 --> 01:23:01,460
 It's all upland, it's all out of the floodplain.

1269
01:23:01,460 --> 01:23:08,580
 And the drawing you'll see is the lighter green area for city park that things can be

1270
01:23:08,580 --> 01:23:11,300
 accomplished on it.

1271
01:23:11,300 --> 01:23:15,520
 We are required to dedicate, with the 156 homes, we're required to dedicate basically

1272
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:19,860
 an acre of land for parkland or pay a fee in lieu.

1273
01:23:19,860 --> 01:23:23,060
 Most likely the city would not, the parks department would not want that acre of land

1274
01:23:23,060 --> 01:23:25,780
 out of this neighborhood in and of itself.

1275
01:23:25,780 --> 01:23:28,560
 So we would probably end up paying the fee in lieu for that.

1276
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:34,040
 So there are five acres of land out there that we consciously decided not to develop.

1277
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:39,020
 We have the ability to do that, but we chose not to because we see a better benefit to

1278
01:23:39,020 --> 01:23:43,540
 the neighborhood overall by having the parkland and having the environmentally sensitive land

1279
01:23:43,540 --> 01:23:48,300
 out there and really focusing on that.

1280
01:23:48,300 --> 01:23:55,860
 With regards to some of the connectivity questions from the commissioner, once we created this

1281
01:23:55,860 --> 01:24:02,700
 23 acre park, obviously people to the north of us that didn't have access to it, would

1282
01:24:02,700 --> 01:24:06,540
 never have thought of having access to it, now do.

1283
01:24:06,540 --> 01:24:11,620
 We prefer that as pedestrian or bicycle access, maybe electric scooters, our preference will

1284
01:24:11,620 --> 01:24:13,620
 not be cars.

1285
01:24:13,620 --> 01:24:17,100
 Obviously they had the ability to drive through there to get to the park.

1286
01:24:17,100 --> 01:24:22,860
 So what we did propose was working with the city, a hike and bike trail along our northern

1287
01:24:22,860 --> 01:24:27,940
 limits adjacent to Creekdale so that there is an ability for our neighbors to the north

1288
01:24:27,940 --> 01:24:31,520
 and to the east to come along Creekdale, come through the neighborhood.

1289
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:37,380
 And then what we've done, you see so many times over the years that a benefit like the

1290
01:24:37,380 --> 01:24:43,780
 ponds, like the open spaces, that developers back these lots to those so that you can have

1291
01:24:43,780 --> 01:24:46,900
 premiums for those lots that are back into this.

1292
01:24:46,900 --> 01:24:51,260
 As you see here, we've really opened up the entire neighborhood, whether it's the front

1293
01:24:51,260 --> 01:24:55,300
 entrance or whether it's access from the north to the parkland.

1294
01:24:55,300 --> 01:25:00,540
 So that is a benefit to 156 homes plus our neighbors versus the 10 or 15 that we would

1295
01:25:00,540 --> 01:25:05,540
 have backing up to it otherwise, because we think that's more important for 156 people

1296
01:25:05,540 --> 01:25:09,180
 or 156 homeowners versus 10 homeowners.

1297
01:25:09,180 --> 01:25:14,700
 So the connectivity to those open spaces, in our opinion, is just as important as automobile

1298
01:25:14,700 --> 01:25:21,700
 connectivity to arterial roads or even the hike and bike trails.

1299
01:25:21,700 --> 01:25:22,700
 Next slide, please.

1300
01:25:22,700 --> 01:25:29,980
 These are just a few photos of the homes that are anticipated to be developed in this neighborhood.

1301
01:25:29,980 --> 01:25:32,980
 As I said, First Texas is the home builder.

1302
01:25:32,980 --> 01:25:37,500
 This is very typical of what they plan on developing in this neighborhood.

1303
01:25:37,500 --> 01:25:41,780
 As was mentioned, the homes aren't going to be started construction for a couple of years.

1304
01:25:41,780 --> 01:25:45,700
 So some of the architecture is going to change.

1305
01:25:45,700 --> 01:25:48,940
 The footprints, the floor plans, are probably going to stay very similar to what they are.

1306
01:25:48,940 --> 01:25:51,780
 So these are not going to be identical to what's going to be out there.

1307
01:25:51,780 --> 01:25:56,340
 And that's just because of the nature of the architecture changing over time.

1308
01:25:56,340 --> 01:25:58,620
 Next slide, please.

1309
01:25:58,620 --> 01:26:04,900
 This is just a zoomed in slide showing the public land that will be out there after,

1310
01:26:04,900 --> 01:26:08,700
 assuming we get our zone in and assuming the neighborhood is developed.

1311
01:26:08,700 --> 01:26:13,260
 So as we know, there's 18 acres of environmentally sensitive flood plain, which is the non-colored

1312
01:26:13,260 --> 01:26:15,660
 area shown on the drawing.

1313
01:26:15,660 --> 01:26:21,400
 There's the five acres of upland parkland, which we are dedicating as part of our development.

1314
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:26,620
 And then there's the 4.6 acres of right of way for the expansion of Hickory Creek.

1315
01:26:26,620 --> 01:26:31,220
 Technically, legally, we don't have to dedicate that 4.6 acres.

1316
01:26:31,220 --> 01:26:34,700
 We're required to dedicate half the right of way needed for the street.

1317
01:26:34,700 --> 01:26:42,980
 So it will ultimately be a six lane divided street, so we're required to dedicate 70 feet

1318
01:26:42,980 --> 01:26:47,820
 of right of way, 65 feet of right of way for Hickory Creek and everything else.

1319
01:26:47,820 --> 01:26:51,460
 In a lot of instances, the developer would make the city buy that property.

1320
01:26:51,460 --> 01:26:55,940
 The city would have to buy it, go out there and get an appraisal or go through condemnation.

1321
01:26:55,940 --> 01:26:58,260
 We have, as I said, this has been very collaborative.

1322
01:26:58,260 --> 01:27:03,180
 We have offered that up as dedication when we plot the property, that 4.6 acres will

1323
01:27:03,180 --> 01:27:06,300
 be dedicated to the city for right of way.

1324
01:27:06,300 --> 01:27:08,820
 Next slide, please.

1325
01:27:08,820 --> 01:27:13,460
 These are a couple of photos of the existing pond, the northern pond that will remain.

1326
01:27:13,460 --> 01:27:17,980
 So as you can see, I mean, to be very honest, these photos have not been touched up at all.

1327
01:27:17,980 --> 01:27:21,900
 We were out there when a northern blue through sort of blew out everything in the sky, so

1328
01:27:21,900 --> 01:27:24,300
 you got that crystal blue sky.

1329
01:27:24,300 --> 01:27:28,780
 The water is very clean, both ponds, the water is very pristine.

1330
01:27:28,780 --> 01:27:34,780
 The goal is to really focus on these areas as an amenity to the community.

1331
01:27:34,780 --> 01:27:36,720
 Next slide, please.

1332
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,260
 We have been working with the Parks Department.

1333
01:27:39,260 --> 01:27:47,300
 What our client is hoping to be able to do is to, as part of the development of the subdivision,

1334
01:27:47,300 --> 01:27:53,580
 to actually at least get started on providing some amenities in the park for those new homeowners

1335
01:27:53,580 --> 01:27:58,280
 so that they have a little park there or we have the ability to do hike and bike trails

1336
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,500
 around the pond.

1337
01:28:00,500 --> 01:28:03,700
 What we're looking at now is potentially reconfiguring that pond a little bit.

1338
01:28:03,700 --> 01:28:08,260
 As you can see on the left, it's more of a north-south, we're proposing to put some

1339
01:28:08,260 --> 01:28:13,780
 aeration in there and make it much more of an amenity versus just a feature.

1340
01:28:13,780 --> 01:28:17,140
 That is going through, we are working with the Parks Department on that.

1341
01:28:17,140 --> 01:28:22,060
 Nothing's been firmed up by anybody yet, nothing's been locked down, but that is the direction

1342
01:28:22,060 --> 01:28:28,040
 we are, our client is moving, is that we will instigate the development of the park as part

1343
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:33,380
 of the development of the neighborhood and then as time goes on and the Parks Department

1344
01:28:33,380 --> 01:28:37,300
 gets a little better feel for what they want to do with the other upland property, go out

1345
01:28:37,300 --> 01:28:41,060
 there and try to work with some hike and bikes and some other types of facilities within

1346
01:28:41,060 --> 01:28:44,900
 the park area itself.

1347
01:28:44,900 --> 01:28:45,900
 Next slide, please.

1348
01:28:45,900 --> 01:28:54,700
 This is just an image of what we anticipate our entry feature is going to be along Hickory

1349
01:28:54,700 --> 01:28:55,700
 Creek Road.

1350
01:28:55,700 --> 01:29:01,140
 You know, Hickory Creek is going to be a six-lane divider road, ultimately, so we're really

1351
01:29:01,140 --> 01:29:04,460
 trying to create a statement as you come into the neighborhood.

1352
01:29:04,460 --> 01:29:09,380
 So the sign that we're proposing is right now, it's 24 feet high, that's Cortan Steel,

1353
01:29:09,380 --> 01:29:15,380
 so it'll be a very nice looking sign, very much creating a statement, a true, you are

1354
01:29:15,380 --> 01:29:22,560
 arriving into someplace special versus just a street off an arterial that you turned down.

1355
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:27,380
 And we really hope that the emphasis with the park as your main drive and your main

1356
01:29:27,380 --> 01:29:32,700
 approach into the neighborhood really makes that statement.

1357
01:29:32,700 --> 01:29:35,100
 Next slide, please.

1358
01:29:35,100 --> 01:29:39,420
 In closing here, as Haley mentioned, we did have a neighborhood meeting, a Zoom meeting

1359
01:29:39,420 --> 01:29:41,500
 on April 7th.

1360
01:29:41,500 --> 01:29:45,020
 Our neighbor to the east was the neighbor that did attend, the current property owner

1361
01:29:45,020 --> 01:29:48,220
 also attended, and the mayor attended that meeting.

1362
01:29:48,220 --> 01:29:51,700
 We had a very nice conversation with the mayor.

1363
01:29:51,700 --> 01:29:55,860
 He had a lot of questions that a mayor would typically have, and it was great because we

1364
01:29:55,860 --> 01:29:59,540
 actually had the ability to actually have a conversation and discuss real issues with

1365
01:29:59,540 --> 01:30:00,540
 him.

1366
01:30:00,540 --> 01:30:05,300
 Just so the commission knows, we did get contacted by one of the residents within the 200-foot

1367
01:30:05,300 --> 01:30:11,500
 notice for the neighborhood meeting, but as far as we could tell, she did not attend the

1368
01:30:11,500 --> 01:30:12,500
 meeting.

1369
01:30:12,500 --> 01:30:18,540
 I reached out to her about a week later in mid-April, sent her an email again to see

1370
01:30:18,540 --> 01:30:22,780
 if she, for some reason, she may not have been able to make it, so I offered up to answer

1371
01:30:22,780 --> 01:30:25,660
 any questions or whatever, did not get a reply from her.

1372
01:30:25,660 --> 01:30:33,100
 So I'm assuming that what she saw or what she thought she wanted to hear was not a concern

1373
01:30:33,100 --> 01:30:35,620
 for her.

1374
01:30:35,620 --> 01:30:41,260
 With regards to the timing of the neighborhood, the timing of Hickory Creek, right now from

1375
01:30:41,260 --> 01:30:44,560
 what our discussions have been with the engineering department, the public works department in

1376
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:51,680
 Denton, it is anticipated that Hickory Creek Road construction will be completed by January

1377
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:54,680
 1, 2024.

1378
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:57,980
 Assuming we get the commission recommendation for approval, get the council approval, go

1379
01:30:57,980 --> 01:31:04,060
 through all our subdivision requirements, our engineering plans, construction, we anticipate

1380
01:31:04,060 --> 01:31:12,060
 acceptance of the subdivision by the engineering department, by the city, by January 1, 2023.

1381
01:31:12,060 --> 01:31:16,380
 So that's ballpark a year before construction is completed for Hickory Creek.

1382
01:31:16,380 --> 01:31:20,780
 Construction will already be underway, but it's a year.

1383
01:31:20,780 --> 01:31:26,500
 Assuming that schedule works, assuming it stops raining and eventually things dry out,

1384
01:31:26,500 --> 01:31:31,940
 if we are approved and if the subdivision is accepted on January 1, you're probably

1385
01:31:31,940 --> 01:31:37,020
 talking another four to six months before any house that got started on January 2 would

1386
01:31:37,020 --> 01:31:40,180
 be ready for somebody to move into.

1387
01:31:40,180 --> 01:31:47,060
 So you're talking maybe six months of people living in the neighborhood before Hickory

1388
01:31:47,060 --> 01:31:49,740
 Creek is anticipated to be open.

1389
01:31:49,740 --> 01:31:53,100
 And Hickory Creek will initially be built as a four lane road.

1390
01:31:53,100 --> 01:31:59,620
 So that's approximately 25,000 cars a day can be handled on that road.

1391
01:31:59,620 --> 01:32:04,900
 In the interim, while that's going on, our exit into and out of the neighborhood is going

1392
01:32:04,900 --> 01:32:08,980
 to be at North End along Creekdale, then we'll go to the East to River Pass and then come

1393
01:32:08,980 --> 01:32:12,660
 back down to Hickory Creek, excuse me.

1394
01:32:12,660 --> 01:32:18,220
 At that point, I think I'm going to stop and ask if the commission has any questions of

1395
01:32:18,220 --> 01:32:19,220
 me.

1396
01:32:19,220 --> 01:32:23,060
 Thank you, Mr. Silo.

1397
01:32:23,060 --> 01:32:29,260
 Any questions for Mr. Silo?

1398
01:32:29,260 --> 01:32:30,760
 I do not see any.

1399
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,340
 Thank you very much for your presentation.

1400
01:32:33,340 --> 01:32:37,380
 Thank you, ma'am.

1401
01:32:37,380 --> 01:32:39,400
 This is a public hearing.

1402
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:40,620
 I don't know.

1403
01:32:40,620 --> 01:32:43,900
 Okay, we do not have anyone on the line.

1404
01:32:43,900 --> 01:32:57,880
 So at this time, I will close the public hearing and open up for discussion or a motion.

1405
01:32:57,880 --> 01:32:58,880
 Commissioner Anderson?

1406
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:04,660
 I'll go ahead and make a motion to approve.

1407
01:33:04,660 --> 01:33:07,980
 I'm glad to hear that they are going to go ahead and start, they're not gonna have the

1408
01:33:07,980 --> 01:33:10,260
 houses done before the roads are completed.

1409
01:33:10,260 --> 01:33:15,020
 I mean, six months, I think that's doable instead of two years down the road and you

1410
01:33:15,020 --> 01:33:21,180
 have about, you know, 1000 cars up and down the road and anyway, no, I'll make a motion

1411
01:33:21,180 --> 01:33:22,180
 to approve.

1412
01:33:22,180 --> 01:33:26,580
 There's a motion on the floor to approve Commissioner Cole?

1413
01:33:26,580 --> 01:33:28,940
 I'll second.

1414
01:33:28,940 --> 01:33:33,940
 Okay, we have a motion on the floor for approval of this item.

1415
01:33:33,940 --> 01:33:38,820
 Is there a discussion?

1416
01:33:38,820 --> 01:33:41,500
 Commissioner Pruitt?

1417
01:33:41,500 --> 01:33:44,940
 Thank you, Vice Chair.

1418
01:33:44,940 --> 01:33:54,740
 I guess, you know, with this one, it's a challenge because it's kind of on the periphery of our

1419
01:33:54,740 --> 01:34:03,740
 city and on the one hand, the future land use map designates it as low density residential,

1420
01:34:03,740 --> 01:34:06,540
 so there's clearly a plan for this type of development.

1421
01:34:06,540 --> 01:34:15,740
 I really appreciate the developer, you know, working well with staff to craft the type

1422
01:34:15,740 --> 01:34:25,180
 of place that they see as beneficial to the surrounding neighborhoods and, you know, along

1423
01:34:25,180 --> 01:34:33,820
 with that effort, you know, the ability to sort of connect all of these piecemeal places

1424
01:34:33,820 --> 01:34:39,380
 together in the long run, I think is very important.

1425
01:34:39,380 --> 01:34:46,140
 You know, I think, well, I guess question for staff.

1426
01:34:46,140 --> 01:34:52,220
 I did very much appreciate that the developer included a fiscal impact analysis in their

1427
01:34:52,220 --> 01:34:53,220
 backup.

1428
01:34:53,220 --> 01:35:03,500
 I hope we see more of that, but just for staff, is that average per capita spending on sort

1429
01:35:03,500 --> 01:35:10,300
 of current government expenditures, is that the industry best practice for assessing sort

1430
01:35:10,300 --> 01:35:18,140
 of future costs to the city in Greenfield development?

1431
01:35:18,140 --> 01:35:23,860
 So I don't know that I have an exact answer to that, not being part of our economic development

1432
01:35:23,860 --> 01:35:24,860
 team myself.

1433
01:35:24,860 --> 01:35:30,580
 I do know that Jessica Rogers, our director of economic development, reviewed this, and

1434
01:35:30,580 --> 01:35:34,660
 although it's not exactly what the goal is ultimately for those fiscal impact analyses

1435
01:35:34,660 --> 01:35:39,640
 that we're working towards with our model that you all have heard referenced before,

1436
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:44,360
 they did find it to be an acceptable study with acceptable findings that seem valid based

1437
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,860
 on the data provided.

1438
01:35:46,860 --> 01:35:52,060
 So unfortunately, that's the most detailed response I can provide, but I'm not sure if

1439
01:35:52,060 --> 01:35:57,240
 Jerry might have any additional information on how that analysis was completed that would

1440
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:58,240
 help.

1441
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:05,380
 Well, basically, what goes on is there's obviously a cost to the city to provide services.

1442
01:36:05,380 --> 01:36:10,780
 Usually it's soft services, usually it's police and fire emergency access.

1443
01:36:10,780 --> 01:36:14,500
 Because hard services, streets, water, sewer lines, things of that nature, the development

1444
01:36:14,500 --> 01:36:18,660
 community builds when they build the neighborhoods typically.

1445
01:36:18,660 --> 01:36:26,340
 So there is a soft cost long term, on a yearly basis, and a number of cities require a fiscal

1446
01:36:26,340 --> 01:36:27,340
 impact analysis.

1447
01:36:27,340 --> 01:36:32,860
 We just recently worked on a community in Fate, which is far east, east of Rockwall,

1448
01:36:32,860 --> 01:36:36,300
 and they require one as well, and it's a pure analysis.

1449
01:36:36,300 --> 01:36:40,820
 Is it worth it for new development to take place, or is the city just digging a deeper

1450
01:36:40,820 --> 01:36:43,940
 hole in terms of expenditures?

1451
01:36:43,940 --> 01:36:50,780
 Well, ballpark, depends on the city, but ballpark, there's a threshold of anywhere from $250

1452
01:36:50,780 --> 01:36:57,180
 to $300,000 for the price of a house that the ad valorem tax is generated by that type

1453
01:36:57,180 --> 01:37:04,100
 of a house, typically will pay for itself in terms of paying for its fair share of soft

1454
01:37:04,100 --> 01:37:06,580
 services that the city provides them.

1455
01:37:06,580 --> 01:37:10,180
 And that also is library, that's parks and rec, all that kind of, anything soft services

1456
01:37:10,180 --> 01:37:12,100
 really is what it's focused on.

1457
01:37:12,100 --> 01:37:17,660
 They typically, the analysis typically go one or two levels of sales in there.

1458
01:37:17,660 --> 01:37:26,100
 So if you're looking at me and I buy a chainsaw at Lowe's, they typically, they will count

1459
01:37:26,100 --> 01:37:33,040
 that sales tax and they will count usually the employee that hired there, a certain percentage

1460
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:35,940
 of their sales tax within the model.

1461
01:37:35,940 --> 01:37:40,540
 I mean, you can go down three, four, five, 12 levels and really grind this thing through,

1462
01:37:40,540 --> 01:37:43,580
 and you're just wasting time at some point.

1463
01:37:43,580 --> 01:37:49,260
 So usually it's a secondary level of analysis in terms of the payback into the community

1464
01:37:49,260 --> 01:37:56,300
 because those employees, they go to restaurants, they buy things just like homeowner does, whether

1465
01:37:56,300 --> 01:37:58,140
 they live in Denton or not.

1466
01:37:58,140 --> 01:38:02,460
 So there is a positive benefit for that type of revenue as well.

1467
01:38:02,460 --> 01:38:04,500
 Hopefully that answers what you're looking for.

1468
01:38:04,500 --> 01:38:05,500
 Yeah.

1469
01:38:05,500 --> 01:38:06,500
 Thank you.

1470
01:38:06,500 --> 01:38:12,580
 You know, I think I have a lot of questions on that and I'll look forward to the efforts

1471
01:38:12,580 --> 01:38:19,980
 that we're doing as a city to sort of better our practices along that line.

1472
01:38:19,980 --> 01:38:26,940
 But I do appreciate the developer for making that effort.

1473
01:38:26,940 --> 01:38:37,260
 You know, I guess one thing that concerns me sometimes with the PDE applications is

1474
01:38:37,260 --> 01:38:44,420
 how structured they are to exactly what we're going to build on day one.

1475
01:38:44,420 --> 01:38:52,360
 I guess when we passed the 2019 code, did our overlay districts and other non-standard

1476
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:58,360
 districts, did those convert to sort of standard zoning designations or were those preserved

1477
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:00,340
 with their original overlay conditions?

1478
01:39:00,340 --> 01:39:01,340
 How did that work?

1479
01:39:01,340 --> 01:39:02,340
 Sure.

1480
01:39:02,340 --> 01:39:08,580
 So anything, well, the 2002 code did not have PDs as a tool within it.

1481
01:39:08,580 --> 01:39:12,540
 It had master plan communities, but you had to meet a certain size threshold.

1482
01:39:12,540 --> 01:39:18,780
 I believe it was 150 contiguous acres or 300 acres non-contiguous.

1483
01:39:18,780 --> 01:39:23,100
 But it also had a tool called the Neighborhood Mixed Use Protection Overlay.

1484
01:39:23,100 --> 01:39:27,620
 And so that's where we ended up with several zoning cases over the last few years that

1485
01:39:27,620 --> 01:39:33,620
 did have, you know, like unit counts or use restrictions or things of that nature.

1486
01:39:33,620 --> 01:39:41,080
 Those all transitioned with our 2019 code adoption to what shows on our map as a PD-

1487
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:42,380
 whatever based district.

1488
01:39:42,380 --> 01:39:49,660
 So if it was an R6 with overlay conditions under the old code, it transferred to PD-R6

1489
01:39:49,660 --> 01:39:50,980
 under the new code.

1490
01:39:50,980 --> 01:39:55,040
 And the code has language in subchapter one that specifies that those overlay conditions

1491
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:59,300
 still control over the pieces that were specified by those conditions.

1492
01:39:59,300 --> 01:40:03,420
 So use, number of units, things of that nature.

1493
01:40:03,420 --> 01:40:09,580
 Anything else transitioned to whatever that new district is under the 2019 code.

1494
01:40:09,580 --> 01:40:10,580
 Okay.

1495
01:40:10,580 --> 01:40:11,580
 Thank you.

1496
01:40:11,580 --> 01:40:12,580
 That definitely helps.

1497
01:40:12,580 --> 01:40:16,580
 I guess, you know, I looked back over the last couple of years, it looks like we had

1498
01:40:16,580 --> 01:40:24,940
 about ballpark 20 zoning changes in PD applications each year for the last couple of years.

1499
01:40:24,940 --> 01:40:32,620
 And you know, the city as a whole has, you know, DCAD data looks like it was over 40,000

1500
01:40:32,620 --> 01:40:35,340
 parcels within the city.

1501
01:40:35,340 --> 01:40:50,460
 So you know, I hesitate to want to strictly restrict what can happen on these lots for

1502
01:40:50,460 --> 01:40:57,820
 the next 50 or 100 years when, you know, we don't really- it seems like we don't have

1503
01:40:57,820 --> 01:41:05,300
 the capacity to do hundreds and hundreds of zoning changes as areas evolve.

1504
01:41:05,300 --> 01:41:09,260
 I recognize we're talking about a long time in the future.

1505
01:41:09,260 --> 01:41:16,860
 So for me, it's really sort of how does the permanence of the zoning restrictions match

1506
01:41:16,860 --> 01:41:20,780
 with the surrounding area, right?

1507
01:41:20,780 --> 01:41:27,880
 I think you mentioned that there's some R4 to the north and in some other areas not too

1508
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:36,540
 far from there that have a little bit more allowances for land rights of the owners.

1509
01:41:36,540 --> 01:41:46,240
 So, you know, those are the things I'm thinking through.

1510
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:47,640
 Thank you, Commissioner Prout.

1511
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:52,460
 We do have a motion on the floor for approval of this item.

1512
01:41:52,460 --> 01:41:54,460
 Is there any further discussion?

1513
01:41:54,460 --> 01:41:55,460
 Commissioner Anderson?

1514
01:41:55,460 --> 01:41:58,180
 I'll make a second.

1515
01:41:58,180 --> 01:42:04,740
 You have the motion on the floor and we do have a second.

1516
01:42:04,740 --> 01:42:09,620
 If there is no further discussion, we will take a vote on that motion.

1517
01:42:09,620 --> 01:42:15,460
 And I will just thank staff's thoroughness and the applicant's thoroughness for the collaboration

1518
01:42:15,460 --> 01:42:18,860
 efforts and for our detailed backup on this project.

1519
01:42:18,860 --> 01:42:20,700
 It was very well presented.

1520
01:42:20,700 --> 01:42:22,140
 So thank you.

1521
01:42:22,140 --> 01:42:25,060
 With that, I will call for a vote.

1522
01:42:25,060 --> 01:42:26,060
 Commissioner Anderson?

1523
01:42:26,060 --> 01:42:27,060
 Aye.

1524
01:42:27,060 --> 01:42:28,540
 Commissioner Cole?

1525
01:42:28,540 --> 01:42:29,540
 Aye.

1526
01:42:29,540 --> 01:42:30,540
 Commissioner Smith?

1527
01:42:30,540 --> 01:42:31,540
 Aye.

1528
01:42:31,540 --> 01:42:32,540
 Commissioner Pruitt?

1529
01:42:32,540 --> 01:42:33,540
 Aye.

1530
01:42:33,540 --> 01:42:39,380
 Chair, there's also an aye.

1531
01:42:39,380 --> 01:42:40,380
 That motion carries 5-0.

1532
01:42:40,380 --> 01:42:41,380
 Thank you very much.

1533
01:42:41,380 --> 01:42:42,380
 Appreciate it.

1534
01:42:42,380 --> 01:42:43,380
 Thank you.

1535
01:42:43,380 --> 01:42:52,000
 Silo, I appreciate it very much.

1536
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:55,460
 Congratulations.

1537
01:42:55,460 --> 01:42:58,780
 That takes us to our matrix.

1538
01:42:58,780 --> 01:43:02,500
 I will turn it over to Haley to see if she's got any updates for us.

1539
01:43:02,500 --> 01:43:04,940
 All right.

1540
01:43:04,940 --> 01:43:07,460
 No updates on the matrix itself.

1541
01:43:07,460 --> 01:43:13,100
 And actually since our last meeting on, I think it was May 19th, there hasn't been any

1542
01:43:13,100 --> 01:43:16,220
 cases that have gone before council, so no updates there.

1543
01:43:16,220 --> 01:43:19,780
 The last zoning case that you'll heard on the 19th will be going next week with this

1544
01:43:19,780 --> 01:43:20,780
 case.

1545
01:43:20,780 --> 01:43:22,700
 So we'll have some updates after that.

1546
01:43:22,700 --> 01:43:27,660
 But I did want to provide just one quick update with respect to that fiscal impact analysis

1547
01:43:27,660 --> 01:43:32,220
 that we've talked about that will be coming up hopefully this summer as a work session

1548
01:43:32,220 --> 01:43:35,020
 item before both PNZ and council.

1549
01:43:35,020 --> 01:43:40,020
 So I spoke with Charlie Rosendahl, who's been kind of overseeing that project for us, and

1550
01:43:40,020 --> 01:43:45,060
 he indicated that they're currently targeting an April completion date of that model.

1551
01:43:45,060 --> 01:43:47,780
 They're still working through all the data input and things of that nature.

1552
01:43:47,780 --> 01:43:52,100
 So before they get to a final point, they want to bring that before both boards walk

1553
01:43:52,100 --> 01:43:56,100
 through kind of the assumptions and how it's been built and how it will function and get

1554
01:43:56,100 --> 01:44:01,500
 any feedback from PNZ and council before wrapping up that project so that we can begin to use

1555
01:44:01,500 --> 01:44:03,100
 that moving forward.

1556
01:44:03,100 --> 01:44:04,100
 Great.

1557
01:44:04,100 --> 01:44:05,260
 Thank you.

1558
01:44:05,260 --> 01:44:10,180
 Is there anything to be added to the matrix?

1559
01:44:10,180 --> 01:44:11,180
 Anyone?

1560
01:44:11,180 --> 01:44:12,180
 Commissioner Smith.

1561
01:44:12,180 --> 01:44:13,180
 Thank you.

1562
01:44:13,180 --> 01:44:14,180
 By sure.

1563
01:44:14,180 --> 01:44:24,380
 Haley, I asked I asked Richard to put on the matrix for a presentation from Discover Denton

1564
01:44:24,380 --> 01:44:26,500
 to come and talk about their marketing plan.

1565
01:44:26,500 --> 01:44:27,860
 I don't see it on there.

1566
01:44:27,860 --> 01:44:32,020
 I didn't check last last meeting, but now I don't see it on there.

1567
01:44:32,020 --> 01:44:39,060
 So with Richard stepping out to his new position in Denver, I'm going to email you the contact

1568
01:44:39,060 --> 01:44:42,900
 information for the person who would do that presentation, and I would like to see that

1569
01:44:42,900 --> 01:44:43,900
 on the matrix.

1570
01:44:43,900 --> 01:44:44,900
 Okay, perfect.

1571
01:44:44,900 --> 01:44:45,900
 Yeah, we can work that in.

1572
01:44:45,900 --> 01:44:46,900
 Thank you.

1573
01:44:46,900 --> 01:44:47,900
 Thank you, Commissioner Smith.

1574
01:44:47,900 --> 01:44:50,540
 Commissioner Pruitt, did you have your hand raised as well?

1575
01:44:50,540 --> 01:44:52,540
 Yeah, just a question for clarification.

1576
01:44:52,540 --> 01:44:55,100
 You said target of April.

1577
01:44:55,100 --> 01:44:56,100
 I'm sorry, August.

1578
01:44:56,100 --> 01:44:57,100
 Okay.

1579
01:44:57,100 --> 01:44:58,100
 It's been a long day.

1580
01:44:58,100 --> 01:45:03,100
 I probably didn't say April, but that would be August.

1581
01:45:03,100 --> 01:45:04,100
 Thank you.

1582
01:45:04,100 --> 01:45:05,100
 Well done, Commissioner Pruitt.

1583
01:45:05,100 --> 01:45:11,380
 Haley, I would just like to, I don't know if this is a matrix item or something for

1584
01:45:11,380 --> 01:45:17,180
 further discussion, but with regard to the online comment form, if there is a way that

1585
01:45:17,180 --> 01:45:26,740
 we can compartmentalize the way those come out to tag what project they're commenting

1586
01:45:26,740 --> 01:45:33,260
 on in the subject, when we get them, I mean, staff does a great job dividing them up, but

1587
01:45:33,260 --> 01:45:37,020
 it would be great to have them in the subject title, if that's even possible.

1588
01:45:37,020 --> 01:45:43,340
 I don't know even who that should be for, but I'm throwing that out there now in hopes

1589
01:45:43,340 --> 01:45:48,460
 that you can either, we can further discuss or get it to the right body.

1590
01:45:48,460 --> 01:45:49,460
 Sure.

1591
01:45:49,460 --> 01:45:50,460
 Yeah.

1592
01:45:50,460 --> 01:45:53,780
 I'll look into that and see who handles that process and what we can do about it.

1593
01:45:53,780 --> 01:45:54,780
 Thank you.

1594
01:45:54,780 --> 01:45:55,780
 Thank you.

1595
01:45:55,780 --> 01:46:02,580
 Just housekeeping, I'm getting two of every comment of the same person.

1596
01:46:02,580 --> 01:46:08,380
 I don't know if anybody else is, but when I get the comments on a case, I'm getting

1597
01:46:08,380 --> 01:46:11,540
 two from one person.

1598
01:46:11,540 --> 01:46:15,460
 It's possible that it's on two different agenda items.

1599
01:46:15,460 --> 01:46:16,460
 Oh, gotcha.

1600
01:46:16,460 --> 01:46:17,460
 Okay.

1601
01:46:17,460 --> 01:46:18,460
 That's most likely what it is.

1602
01:46:18,460 --> 01:46:19,460
 Okay.

1603
01:46:19,460 --> 01:46:20,460
 Yeah.

1604
01:46:20,460 --> 01:46:21,460
 Thank you.

1605
01:46:21,460 --> 01:46:22,460
 Sure.

1606
01:46:22,460 --> 01:46:28,500
 Is there anything else for the matrix or concluding items?

1607
01:46:28,500 --> 01:46:32,580
 I will just say welcome once again, commissioner Pruitt.

1608
01:46:32,580 --> 01:46:33,980
 Good job getting through your first meeting.

1609
01:46:33,980 --> 01:46:34,980
 Welcome aboard.

1610
01:46:34,980 --> 01:46:36,940
 It's good to have you.

1611
01:46:36,940 --> 01:46:38,620
 Thank you.

1612
01:46:38,620 --> 01:46:39,620
 Okay.

1613
01:46:39,620 --> 01:46:40,740
 Nothing else on the agenda.

1614
01:46:40,740 --> 01:46:45,180
 So I will close adjourn us at 7 50 PM.

1615
01:46:45,180 --> 01:46:46,180
 Thank you everybody.

1616
01:46:46,180 --> 01:46:47,180
 See you next time.

1617
01:46:47,180 --> 01:46:48,180
 Thank you.

1618
01:46:48,180 --> 01:46:48,180
 Yes.