WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.600 We'll start the meeting at 402 and open for May 21st and the first, we'll do the world 00:00:09.600 --> 00:00:10.600 roll first. 00:00:10.600 --> 00:00:21.280 So, Mone Franklin here, Ed Steele here, Meredith Ewing here, Adam Chamberlain here, Alicia 00:00:21.280 --> 00:00:41.480 Egert here, Joey Lecce is unexcused absence, Michelle Lynn is absent, Frederick Nicholson, 00:00:41.480 --> 00:00:57.920 and then Georgina Ngozi, I was here, I'm sorry, assuming Georgina is absent, we'll move along 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:19.440 to item A, is considered approval for the minutes of April 16th, 2021. 00:01:19.440 --> 00:01:21.400 Motion to approve. 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:48.400 And on second, if one in favor, Ed, hi, Meredith, hi, Adam, hi, Alicia, hi, Fred, I am my phone 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:56.680 case muting, that's weird, everyone's in favor, in item B, receive report and hold discussion 00:01:56.680 --> 00:02:00.880 and give staff direction regarding the original district's application for the Texas Commission 00:02:00.880 --> 00:02:07.360 on the Arts, TCA, arts response to the cultural district project grant program. 00:02:07.360 --> 00:02:16.320 Okay, this is an item for an application for a grant for the TCA, and we're looking to 00:02:16.320 --> 00:02:22.120 do some renovations and improvements to the stage in Quaker Town Park. 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:27.600 What we're proposing to do is make actual enhancements to the stage itself, beautify 00:02:27.600 --> 00:02:41.640 it, and then put a roof on the building and some backdrop that would be part of that structure. 00:02:41.640 --> 00:02:48.040 The proposed grant application is for $100,000 at this time, we're finalizing that number, 00:02:48.040 --> 00:03:01.420 but we're thinking the project's about $200,000 in total to be $100,000 match. 00:03:01.420 --> 00:03:07.080 Any questions? 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:15.000 This is the same grant application that was applied for last year for the DWIF monument, 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:21.640 and I think it was $26,000, if I can remember correctly. 00:03:21.640 --> 00:03:29.160 So there has to be a letter of support from the ODD district, and that's what this is 00:03:29.160 --> 00:03:32.360 requesting. 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:48.800 This will actually go to city council as well. 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:49.800 Any questions? 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:50.800 Comments? 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:52.040 I have one question. 00:03:52.040 --> 00:03:55.080 With the improvements to the stage, is it looking to be able to be used at nighttime, 00:03:55.080 --> 00:04:00.600 meaning there would be lights added on within that roofing structure? 00:04:00.600 --> 00:04:23.360 Great, do we just ... I guess we would need a motion for consideration. 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:24.360 Motion to approve? 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:25.360 I'll second. 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:26.360 Everyone in favor? 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:27.360 Aye. 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:30.800 Aye. 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:34.400 Absolutely, aye. 00:04:34.400 --> 00:04:35.400 Aye. 00:04:35.400 --> 00:04:36.400 I'm here now. 00:04:36.400 --> 00:04:37.400 Aye. 00:04:37.400 --> 00:04:38.400 Michelle's here. 00:04:38.400 --> 00:04:39.400 Yes. 00:04:39.400 --> 00:04:43.400 Everyone is in favor? 00:04:43.400 --> 00:04:44.400 Yes. 00:04:44.400 --> 00:04:45.400 Okay. 00:04:45.400 --> 00:04:57.280 Let me move on to item C, which is kind of the same thing as the ... C is receive report 00:04:57.280 --> 00:05:00.360 and hold discussion and get staff direction regarding the letter of support from the original 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:06.520 district for application be made for the Tejas Storytelling Association for the Texas Commission 00:05:06.520 --> 00:05:11.200 of the Arts in response to the cultural district grant program. 00:05:11.200 --> 00:05:13.680 This is for the same grant application. 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:21.000 This is for storytelling for a little bit less for their operations programming, and 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:42.400 the total was $7,000, and that's for the 2022 storytelling festival. 00:05:42.400 --> 00:05:43.400 Grants have to be completed. 00:05:43.400 --> 00:05:52.560 The grant cycle runs from September 1 to August 31. 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:53.560 Motion to approve? 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:54.560 I'll second. 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:55.560 Hi. 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:56.560 All in favor? 00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:57.560 Aye. 00:05:57.560 --> 00:05:58.560 Aye. 00:05:58.560 --> 00:05:59.560 Aye. 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:00.560 Aye. 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:01.560 Everyone's in favor? 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:02.560 Thank you. 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:18.120 And item D is receive report and hold discussion and get staff input regarding the status of 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:24.080 the following public art committee projects, one, the North Lakes Dog Park, two, the Roland 00:06:24.080 --> 00:06:30.880 Vela Athletic Complex, three, the Tennis Center, four, Fire Station number three, five, the 00:06:30.880 --> 00:06:35.920 MLK Project, and six is the Interracial Fellowship Monument, and seven is the Carroll Boulevard 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:40.280 Art Trail, Dallas and Teasley Sculptures and Bonnevay Bray Roundabouts. 00:06:40.280 --> 00:06:41.280 Okay. 00:06:41.280 --> 00:06:49.160 I'm going to be bringing that up just give me a quick moment here. 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:52.920 Just a quick comment, Shalon and Caroline, do you mind turning your cameras on since 00:06:52.920 --> 00:07:09.360 your staff? 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:11.400 Alright can everybody see the screen now? 00:07:11.400 --> 00:07:12.400 Yes. 00:07:12.400 --> 00:07:13.400 Okay. 00:07:13.400 --> 00:07:14.400 Very good. 00:07:14.400 --> 00:07:15.400 All right. 00:07:15.400 --> 00:07:16.400 We'll just take these like we normally would. 00:07:16.400 --> 00:07:17.720 We have the North Lakes Dog Park. 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:26.400 Again, that's a budget of $35,000, their subcommittee and are essentially the statuses, the approval 00:07:26.400 --> 00:07:28.920 of proposal that was went before council. 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:33.800 It was actually put on the consent agenda that was approved by council on Tuesday on 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:35.000 the 18th. 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:41.140 And so right now the contract is being finalized and PO is being cut and we are starting physically 00:07:41.140 --> 00:07:47.080 on that project, as far as the artist being able to create that sculpture. 00:07:47.080 --> 00:07:50.400 So we're moving right along with the particular one. 00:07:50.400 --> 00:07:53.720 John, what's the projected timeline? 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:58.800 The projected timeline is hopefully we'll have this one done by the end of August. 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:01.600 Some of the delays we had changed a little bit in there. 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:03.720 So we're going to have to look at that real hard. 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:09.560 And I've got had a quick meeting with the artist yesterday on the phone. 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:12.880 And so he's just waiting for the time to get going. 00:08:12.880 --> 00:08:17.320 But he's fairly confident that they'll be able to do it by that time. 00:08:17.320 --> 00:08:23.560 John, do we intend to pull the subcommittee together for the color selection? 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:24.560 Yes. 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:30.000 That was mentioned in the last time that some of the color selection that that pistols, 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:31.600 maybe somebody wanted a little bit more vibrant. 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:35.480 And so we'll remit with that to talk about it. 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:41.160 Just to refresh the memories, the materials was aircraft aluminum, and that was a powder 00:08:41.160 --> 00:08:43.680 coated aircraft aluminum. 00:08:43.680 --> 00:08:49.640 But there are some other shades and so on that are more vibrant that some of the members 00:08:49.640 --> 00:08:52.960 thought that might be a better look for that particular thing. 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:58.160 So we'll get together and take a look at what kind of a palette of colors that are available 00:08:58.160 --> 00:08:59.160 for this. 00:08:59.160 --> 00:09:00.960 I'll get that from the artist. 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:07.480 But that particular design feature doesn't have to be really implemented until very close 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:10.500 to the almost finished fabrication time. 00:09:10.500 --> 00:09:17.280 So we actually have 30 to 45 days to be able to look at that. 00:09:17.280 --> 00:09:22.280 Okay, I'll move on to the next slide. 00:09:22.280 --> 00:09:25.440 This is still in fabrication and it seems to be coming along very well. 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:31.000 I haven't had an immediate contact from the artist right at this time. 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:36.420 But it looks like they're moving and will be able to produce this within the time frame. 00:09:36.420 --> 00:09:46.080 So right now we are looking at about mid July from the last time I saw. 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:52.720 Just a quick update on the foundation, Drew, would you like to kind of explain what you 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:54.760 guys are working on? 00:09:54.760 --> 00:10:00.840 Yes, so on the foundation through your recommendations, the concrete work started today to put the 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:05.340 planters around the art pedestal. 00:10:05.340 --> 00:10:13.640 And so we a couple weeks ago, we installed the conduit for the irrigation and the lighting 00:10:13.640 --> 00:10:15.080 for that sculpture. 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:19.880 And then the concrete work started, like I said, this week actually started today for 00:10:19.880 --> 00:10:26.360 them forming up for the new planter beds that will go around that sculpture. 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:31.520 And that's the planter beds and those changes were a result of council members that had 00:10:31.520 --> 00:10:37.120 asked to have a less ability to reach out and touch that particular sculpture because 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:39.420 of heat concerns and that. 00:10:39.420 --> 00:10:43.320 And so softening it up a little bit around the base with the planter and bringing water 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:54.680 to it and giving a little distance between that and where people would touch it is appropriate. 00:10:54.680 --> 00:10:58.680 Tennis center, the rest of the tennis center is really coming along. 00:10:58.680 --> 00:11:05.400 We have the main field house area there, the clubhouse is pretty much done. 00:11:05.400 --> 00:11:09.240 Hope to have had a meeting before this, but we had a lot of other projects that were running 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:11.720 along, but it looks like we can start that. 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:16.800 So I will be getting with people starting this next week to look at that. 00:11:16.800 --> 00:11:20.080 Well, first of all, we'll come up with a few possible locations. 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:27.640 I'll share some photos and various things of that before we have a meeting so we can 00:11:27.640 --> 00:11:29.920 make sure we can discuss that. 00:11:29.920 --> 00:11:40.160 So right now, those subcommittee members that we've got are Franklin Nicholson and Steele. 00:11:40.160 --> 00:11:47.040 Fire Station 3, currently the call for artists is out in the wild and that is getting a few 00:11:47.040 --> 00:11:48.240 good hits from it. 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:53.640 I've been contacted by eight different artists on being able to submit for this particular 00:11:53.640 --> 00:12:00.880 project and some of them are from bronze all the way to some very interesting styles of 00:12:00.880 --> 00:12:01.880 sculpture. 00:12:01.880 --> 00:12:06.520 So it's going to be a very eclectic look once all these things come in, so that's going 00:12:06.520 --> 00:12:08.400 to be very interesting for it. 00:12:08.400 --> 00:12:14.920 Now, those call for proposals are due on May 28th and so once those happen, I'll take those 00:12:14.920 --> 00:12:22.880 and I'll get them into a visible form and we'll be able to meet on those particular 00:12:22.880 --> 00:12:23.880 occasions. 00:12:23.880 --> 00:12:30.760 And for that particular one, we have Franklin and Steele for that subcommittee. 00:12:30.760 --> 00:12:35.440 MLK Jr. sculpture is still moving along. 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:40.840 I think it's just passing between the rough fabrication of those sculptures and to the 00:12:40.840 --> 00:12:45.440 finer sculpting at this particular time. 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:48.840 Where next steps that we're currently doing in the department is we're going to be preparing 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:57.320 the site there for those sculptures and so the flag poles are coming and being moved 00:12:57.320 --> 00:13:04.200 and we're going to be preparing some landscaping around that area and pouring a pad and then 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:09.440 doing a stamp concrete around that where they would be sitting on it. 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:15.120 And Drew, I think you mentioned that you would have oak leaves pressed into that. 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:24.240 So working with the artist, she wanted to have kind of a non-traditional stamp concrete 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:30.640 to where typically stamp concrete comes in a roll and everything is really squared and 00:13:30.640 --> 00:13:38.360 it looks, I don't want to say this, almost like you're doing tile work, everything straight. 00:13:38.360 --> 00:13:43.160 She wanted the leaves to look like they fell on the concrete when the concrete was wet. 00:13:43.160 --> 00:13:50.220 So we found post oak leaf stamps and we're going to intermittently just stamp the concrete 00:13:50.220 --> 00:13:56.600 like the leaves fell on them or fell on the concrete and then it'll be poking out underneath 00:13:56.600 --> 00:14:03.120 the sculpture and they'll be in the walkway so there'll just be a little bit of everywhere. 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:09.160 All right, next item, the DWAF monument is coming along. 00:14:09.160 --> 00:14:14.960 I honestly am in contact with the artist Dina Fischer virtually every day. 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:18.760 She's getting very close to finalizing the rest of the designs. 00:14:18.760 --> 00:14:22.880 We've actually included a few things here that you can see some of that progress for 00:14:22.880 --> 00:14:24.040 it. 00:14:24.040 --> 00:14:28.360 One thing that didn't make it in time for this meeting was that she actually produced 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:34.480 a video of holding up some of the designs and we're going like this and so you'll see 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:41.280 four or five different pictures just by doing that different angle on that for that lenticular 00:14:41.280 --> 00:14:42.280 art. 00:14:42.280 --> 00:14:44.840 So I think it's going to be very interesting. 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:53.560 We have run by all of the names to be historically accurate, Lenny McAdams and Pat Cheek were 00:14:53.560 --> 00:14:58.680 both a part of that group to review that and they've also seen, I know that Lenny has seen 00:14:58.680 --> 00:15:04.440 the final design for the lenticular art and has just followed them a little bit with it. 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:09.440 And so I think other people will be able to see that very soon too. 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:13.960 Again, that project needs to be completed by August, the end of August, because some 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:19.880 of those are funds through the hot funds. 00:15:19.880 --> 00:15:27.240 So the actual park area, so this is, you won't recognize industrial street park very well 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:28.240 here. 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:30.880 This side here is an industrial street. 00:15:30.880 --> 00:15:34.720 This side here is towards the parking lot over in the side. 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:39.720 And so this is getting pretty close to the final design of this area where there'll be 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:47.360 steps coming in, the name of the park will be posted through here on the steps and these 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:52.920 beds that you see here, this is where that lenticular art, these pieces go. 00:15:52.920 --> 00:15:59.560 And so literally as people walk up, they will see some moment in time or some saying all 00:15:59.560 --> 00:16:01.560 the way through that until they get past that. 00:16:01.560 --> 00:16:04.300 So there'd be each side of this is also active. 00:16:04.300 --> 00:16:11.360 So if they walk on this side of that, they'll see all of those art pieces too. 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:18.360 This looks like it's just color, but in reality it's quotes, it's pictures of people and all 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:25.560 around the edges are all the names of the people that were on the DWIF. 00:16:25.560 --> 00:16:29.520 So that's what the people as they get introduced to the park from industrial street will be 00:16:29.520 --> 00:16:31.120 able to see. 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:35.400 And that's four sides in about four different angles. 00:16:35.400 --> 00:16:40.020 And so there's a tremendous number of pictures and things in each one of these items. 00:16:40.020 --> 00:16:44.480 As people come on in, there's going to be concrete walkways. 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:50.320 If you've been out there, you know that this is a very difficult area to keep the sod growing 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:51.600 in the summertime. 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:54.720 It's really hot and it's difficult to keep things growing. 00:16:54.720 --> 00:16:57.640 And if you get any traffic on it, it wears away that. 00:16:57.640 --> 00:17:04.520 And so what we're proposing is to put in sod, not sod, but artificial turf in here that 00:17:04.520 --> 00:17:06.920 stays cool. 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:12.360 And other than having to do concrete or something that it's not really practical. 00:17:12.360 --> 00:17:17.040 So that's what this area would be, and then the art piece here is this curtain wall as 00:17:17.040 --> 00:17:24.080 we're calling it, curves like this, and this is more like a little amphitheater type of 00:17:24.080 --> 00:17:25.080 area. 00:17:25.080 --> 00:17:29.680 And they'll be able to walk all the way around the sculpture and there will be a seating 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:33.560 area of concrete benches through here. 00:17:33.560 --> 00:17:40.560 And then there'll be the red buds all through over that particular area. 00:17:40.560 --> 00:17:49.820 We have brand new ADA accessible ramps through here and then on the back side through here. 00:17:49.820 --> 00:17:55.480 And right over here is where we have the handicap parking for it. 00:17:55.480 --> 00:17:58.640 And so it's very accessible. 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:02.840 If using a wheelchair, come right in here, enjoy it and get around all the different 00:18:02.840 --> 00:18:06.480 parts of it and through the park. 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:13.520 As a quick reminder of some of the things that goes to the curtain wall looks like this 00:18:13.520 --> 00:18:19.640 stainless steel rods hold everything together and people can walk around and they get a 00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:22.600 different angle of all this stuff. 00:18:22.600 --> 00:18:26.600 And one of the cool things is that they do have the app for the phone that they'll be 00:18:26.600 --> 00:18:28.480 able to view that. 00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:35.320 Some of those will bring up the person talking so that UNT did through some of their oral 00:18:35.320 --> 00:18:41.760 history program, they recorded many of the people and they have what they said about 00:18:41.760 --> 00:18:45.560 that particular ADA by evidence accomplishments at that time. 00:18:45.560 --> 00:18:51.560 So it's going to be a very, very instructional but also very colorful and beautiful piece 00:18:51.560 --> 00:18:53.600 as it goes. 00:18:53.600 --> 00:18:59.040 Some of the bollards that we saw earlier were more of a rectangular originally. 00:18:59.040 --> 00:19:04.880 The artist elected to be able to change the bollard to one of these types that will have 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:12.240 a wrap of that same type of material around each one of those pieces that kind of looks 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:14.320 like over here. 00:19:14.320 --> 00:19:24.560 John, can you explain the ability to change and update those panels? 00:19:24.560 --> 00:19:29.920 Each one of these, if let's say that somebody else comes in that wasn't a part of it, another 00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:37.680 piece can be put in and some of these moved around at different times to be able to modify 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:40.840 some of the story if that's need be. 00:19:40.840 --> 00:19:45.440 There are quite a few sayings that you can see here, quotes, and those were many of those 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:52.040 were provided through some of the histories that we've actually the artist found and through 00:19:52.040 --> 00:19:58.860 Lenny McAdam to be able to provide those kind of quotes for it. 00:19:58.860 --> 00:20:03.440 So we have those kind of opportunities if we need to update at some point. 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:11.700 Okay, one of the new ones that we would look at coming in here is we have the Carroll Boulevard 00:20:11.700 --> 00:20:18.680 art trail and so we've identified some funding to be able to work with that. 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:24.720 It's kind of to be determined on how much can actually be spent on any particular area. 00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:29.920 So in Carroll Boulevard, there's three different spots that are there, we can take a look at 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:30.920 some of those. 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:36.000 And so here's one of them close to panhandle on Carroll Boulevard. 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:43.480 And so this particular star item here is where that would be generally located. 00:20:43.480 --> 00:20:48.560 And then I'm not really sure how close this one is to another area, but that's another 00:20:48.560 --> 00:20:51.720 one where that comes back out to the street. 00:20:51.720 --> 00:20:58.000 And then again, this one here, as it comes through here in this particular area here, 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:01.840 it's like there's a small decorative shade structure in that particular location. 00:21:01.840 --> 00:21:08.040 It actually looks like a doghouse, but we're just going to call it a shade structure. 00:21:08.040 --> 00:21:13.920 Okay, then another spot over here, very close to Crescent, I guess there are four locations 00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:17.640 there. 00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:21.600 Another one that we can bring forward because of some of the monies that we were able to 00:21:21.600 --> 00:21:26.880 move from some of the medallions at the I-35. 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:34.660 And we'll be able to look at about $311,000, Gary, to be able to look at all these things 00:21:34.660 --> 00:21:40.920 to fund the Carroll Street and to fund this particular one here, the Bonnie Bray Roundtable 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:41.920 sculpture. 00:21:41.920 --> 00:21:47.040 A quick video or a picture of that. 00:21:47.040 --> 00:21:52.720 So we have Scripture Street and Bonnie Bray, and you can see that this is an area right 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:56.920 in the middle there to be able to place that one. 00:21:56.920 --> 00:21:59.640 And so that will have a lot of visibility. 00:21:59.640 --> 00:22:06.000 As this area gets built out because of the new medical facilities that are there, this 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:09.120 is getting to be a very busy street and intersection. 00:22:09.120 --> 00:22:14.280 And if anybody's been there and tried the roundabout, it's moving along and keeping 00:22:14.280 --> 00:22:16.360 things going very well. 00:22:16.360 --> 00:22:20.720 So that is the basic location for that particular one. 00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:26.360 We have another opportunity, which is the Dallas and Teasley sculpture. 00:22:26.360 --> 00:22:30.040 That's right at the intersection of Dallas Drive and Teasley Lane. 00:22:30.040 --> 00:22:31.040 And this is one here. 00:22:31.040 --> 00:22:34.200 We still have to figure out what we want to be able to fund that. 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:39.060 So literally, we'll have this certain amount of money that we'll be able to divvy up on 00:22:39.060 --> 00:22:43.120 basically the scope of each of those particular projects. 00:22:43.120 --> 00:22:47.680 So our next step is really to finalize locations on all of these and then determine whatever 00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:53.920 the art style is that we would like in those particular locations for it. 00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:56.080 And so Dallas and Teasley. 00:22:56.080 --> 00:23:00.680 So you have Dallas Drive and Teasley running this particular way. 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:06.360 And this particular little, I guess this little pocket park area, this star here, or where 00:23:06.360 --> 00:23:09.560 the location can be in a variety of spots in here. 00:23:09.560 --> 00:23:13.920 This doesn't necessarily have to be right there for that one. 00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:21.000 But that's one of the other proposed locations in the past. 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:23.920 And then we have another item that we can throw out here too. 00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:28.320 Now in Arlington, they have this particular sculpture, it's called Dream. 00:23:28.320 --> 00:23:31.720 And what was the artist's name, Gary? 00:23:31.720 --> 00:23:36.200 It is Schomburg. 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:42.040 And so it's a sculpture and this has a lot of holes in it because it's lit internally. 00:23:42.040 --> 00:23:47.460 And so if you see this during the day, it looks like this at night. 00:23:47.460 --> 00:23:53.760 And this has been, in Arlington, one of those favorite places now to take graduation photos 00:23:53.760 --> 00:23:55.760 for high school, for college. 00:23:55.760 --> 00:24:01.000 And so at any particular time, their newspaper there is reporting that they've got kids in 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:07.760 their cap and gown out there showing that they're dreaming big for it. 00:24:07.760 --> 00:24:09.960 That's their particular idea of this. 00:24:09.960 --> 00:24:15.380 And this artist usually takes a single word like that that is more inspirational. 00:24:15.380 --> 00:24:20.920 And so we were thinking that we could come up with a word that also represents Denton 00:24:20.920 --> 00:24:26.040 and do the same type of thing if that's the direction that we receive from the Public 00:24:26.040 --> 00:24:27.040 Art Committee. 00:24:27.040 --> 00:24:30.960 Hey, John, and another idea we had was the word music. 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:37.160 I know a few weeks ago, a few months ago that we decided or the PAC decided that really 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:40.680 the theme of a lot of I-35 would be music. 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:47.160 And so the music theme kind of going along with Denton and really not to copy what this 00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:52.800 artist did, but maybe to get some what we call inspiration from it is go with the word. 00:24:52.800 --> 00:24:55.240 If we went with a word, it would be the word music. 00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:59.680 And then you could cut out different types of musical instruments instead of the bird 00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:02.320 that this artist did in those letters. 00:25:02.320 --> 00:25:06.320 So you know, you have a saxophone and a trumpet and a guitar, you know, just kind of going 00:25:06.320 --> 00:25:08.880 along with with that cut out. 00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:11.200 So that was the idea. 00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:17.880 So it says looks like doves type of cutouts, but also all across here in the concrete in 00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:25.480 this little plaza area are impressed for stamp concrete using those particular design features 00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:26.480 for it. 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:34.760 Yeah, this this the first picture is actually right next to the 11th Pavilion, that one. 00:25:34.760 --> 00:25:41.520 And then the second one is actually at Burning Man in Nevada that was at Burning Man and 00:25:41.520 --> 00:25:46.680 then came straight to Arlington that September. 00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:49.680 So it was it was out in the desert for that. 00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:56.640 But just to kind of go back and give you a little bit more detail, we we had money in 00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:06.400 a prior Bond project for the medallions down near Bucky's and Lillian Miller. 00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:11.360 And because of construction issues that never occurred, there was discussion about putting 00:26:11.360 --> 00:26:17.840 them on pedestals and the pack chose not to go in that direction. 00:26:17.840 --> 00:26:22.000 And I think that following that there was a discussion about gateway signage and and 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:24.720 the pack decided that, you know, signage is not art. 00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:33.440 So we we actually had come back and proposed Carroll Boulevard at the time and Dallas and 00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:38.960 Teasley in Eagle and Elm, which the pack was interested in. 00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:43.520 That was probably maybe almost two years ago at this time. 00:26:43.520 --> 00:26:50.920 And then more recently, we discussed the improvements on I-35 and that's where we had the discussion 00:26:50.920 --> 00:27:00.680 about putting the medallions in stamped concrete or art music related impressions in the retaining 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.960 walls on I-35. 00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:09.360 We've had a number of discussions with TechStat regarding that, in fact, one this morning 00:27:09.360 --> 00:27:12.600 and we're working in that direction. 00:27:12.600 --> 00:27:16.840 They that's going to be left, but it's going to be about three or four years before that 00:27:16.840 --> 00:27:18.600 project is actually done. 00:27:18.600 --> 00:27:21.080 So it'll be under construction for a while. 00:27:21.080 --> 00:27:26.720 The money that we were going to use is bond money and we presented to the Bond Oversight 00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:33.520 Committee about two weeks ago and they recommended that we use this that funding sooner than 00:27:33.520 --> 00:27:38.280 later, rather than sit on it for another few years. 00:27:38.280 --> 00:27:42.920 So at that point in time, we wanted to come back to you with some additional ideas to 00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:46.480 use that three hundred and eleven thousand dollars. 00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:53.480 And then for the enhancements on I-35, we did get awarded first place in the Governor's 00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:57.120 Achievement Award for Keep Dentin Beautiful. 00:27:57.120 --> 00:28:03.800 So we're getting two hundred and ninety thousand dollars of TechStat appropriations for beautification 00:28:03.800 --> 00:28:05.880 along TechStat roadways. 00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:12.640 So we do have that and then between now and 2025, we'll find the additional funding if 00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:17.300 we want to do some additional enhancements along the interstate. 00:28:17.300 --> 00:28:22.560 So we wanted to present to you ideas and options. 00:28:22.560 --> 00:28:29.360 We could certainly get a subcommittee going and have these discussions a little more detail 00:28:29.360 --> 00:28:34.640 so we can iron the locations out and what the themes would be. 00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:38.840 But currently we have three hundred and eleven thousand dollars in that bond account that 00:28:38.840 --> 00:28:43.560 could be used for transportation related art. 00:28:43.560 --> 00:28:55.680 So anything along the thoroughfare is what we're looking at. 00:28:55.680 --> 00:29:05.600 So would that be like a standard open call type of a situation or is it like this dream 00:29:05.600 --> 00:29:10.400 sculpture that you showed us? 00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:15.440 Would it be potentially like a purchase situation where like a sculpture already exists and 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:20.160 the public art committee would just decide to try to purchase something? 00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:26.840 Well I guess if you wanted to go with the theme of, you know, a specific word, we could 00:29:26.840 --> 00:29:36.600 put an RFP out and have artists put together different types of design, font, style, you 00:29:36.600 --> 00:29:42.840 know, metal, whatever it would be based on their proposal and in the budget. 00:29:42.840 --> 00:29:49.160 This artist here I think typically stands in the general same kind of size. 00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:54.920 It's all one word like love, dream, those types of things. 00:29:54.920 --> 00:30:01.540 I reached out to them just to see if the word music was available, it sounds like it is. 00:30:01.540 --> 00:30:09.680 So we could talk to them directly or we could just put out a call for design at whatever 00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:11.560 direction you wanted to go. 00:30:11.560 --> 00:30:18.760 The other sculptures if you wanted to do on Carol, you could do the same artist in pairs 00:30:18.760 --> 00:30:25.920 of three or you could do three different completely artists, different styles, designs. 00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:33.600 So we could do them individually by location, we could put one out for each of Carol or 00:30:33.600 --> 00:30:37.120 you could do them in groups if you'd like. 00:30:37.120 --> 00:30:41.080 And you have an opportunity to tell a story too if you had them done in groups, let's 00:30:41.080 --> 00:30:47.120 say the ones on Carol, something sequentially they'd be walking by. 00:30:47.120 --> 00:30:57.060 I can definitely see why that dream sculpture is successful in terms of attracting people 00:30:57.060 --> 00:31:04.280 to go there and do photo shoots and why we would want a similar thing for Denton. 00:31:04.280 --> 00:31:14.580 And I can also understand why the word music would be a strong choice in terms of representing 00:31:14.580 --> 00:31:19.720 something that is a very strong component of the arts here in Denton. 00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:25.640 However, I think as an artist who works a lot with text and words in my own work, I 00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:30.920 think the difference between the word dream and the word music is quite large in terms 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:39.520 of like dream could obviously inspires this idea of like forward thinking and the future 00:31:39.520 --> 00:31:47.920 and can mean kind of like something very universal but also something like slightly different 00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:53.080 for each person because obviously each person has their own individual dreams, right? 00:31:53.080 --> 00:32:00.720 And I think that the word music represents Denton but I don't necessarily think it inspires 00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:09.860 the same sense of, I don't know, whatever that sense is that the word dream inspires, 00:32:09.860 --> 00:32:17.040 I don't think the word music necessarily inspires that and not everyone would be as inclined 00:32:17.040 --> 00:32:22.360 to like relate to it in a similar way, right? 00:32:22.360 --> 00:32:29.240 So I think I like the idea of a sculpture that becomes iconic like that but I don't 00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:35.000 think the word music would necessarily have the same effect if that makes any sense. 00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:42.760 So I would be inclined to have a discussion about whether or not that word is something 00:32:42.760 --> 00:32:49.560 that we really want to focus on or if we as a committee want to choose a word or if we 00:32:49.560 --> 00:32:59.280 want to sort of allow the artist to choose the word because I think also like as an artist 00:32:59.280 --> 00:33:05.400 who works with words, like sometimes like the combination of the typeface of that word 00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:11.800 dream and the doves that make it and then the light within it, they all kind of like 00:33:11.800 --> 00:33:19.720 work together so I would be more inclined to let the artist kind of like come up with 00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:21.920 the word if that makes any sense. 00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:27.880 Or maybe have the artist provide a couple of words rather than just one that the subcommittee 00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:34.360 could select from and I agree dream is both a noun and a verb and music is a noun there's 00:33:34.360 --> 00:33:40.320 no action there it's just music which is great but dream has a lot more power behind it. 00:33:40.320 --> 00:33:46.720 When everyone has dreams and maybe not everyone's dream involves music, I love this thinking 00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:52.120 that Alicia and Ed have, would it be possible to consider a symbol then that may have more 00:33:52.120 --> 00:33:54.640 complex meaning or more multiple meanings? 00:33:54.640 --> 00:34:00.340 Well maybe the idea where music really you know that's us trying to find dentin whereas 00:34:00.340 --> 00:34:04.400 that image dream is a different definition for whoever's standing in front of it. 00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:08.280 It's finding that imagery that is personal to whoever's in front of it as opposed to 00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:12.000 being a descriptor of a place. 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:17.600 Yeah the word dream really tied in perfectly with obviously what you guys just explained 00:34:17.600 --> 00:34:23.360 but it's also American Dream City is what they branded themselves so they tied it in 00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:29.360 with their new logo and new brand for the city so it really came together perfectly 00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:30.360 for them. 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:34.140 What is Denton's logo? 00:34:34.140 --> 00:34:39.960 That's a flag with the word Denton. 00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:45.780 Maybe this is our chance to uh we'll be the new branders for Denton with what I can call 00:34:45.780 --> 00:34:46.780 it. 00:34:46.780 --> 00:34:47.780 It used to be just a d. 00:34:47.780 --> 00:34:56.680 I love the idea of doing a call that is like a call for artists to come up with an idea 00:34:56.680 --> 00:35:05.120 of you know of an iconic kind of a sculpture that could potentially lead to our own branding 00:35:05.120 --> 00:35:11.760 and you know there there could be like a description of Denton's history with music and all the 00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:15.720 other things that we're really proud of and then maybe yeah artist. 00:35:15.720 --> 00:35:22.620 Does the word does the word play relate to dream in a similar way where you could play 00:35:22.620 --> 00:35:27.440 you know could be action, exercise, could be music? 00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:32.640 It does I don't think so that people are going to want to photograph themselves in front 00:35:32.640 --> 00:35:35.520 of the word play as much as they would. 00:35:35.520 --> 00:35:36.520 I get that. 00:35:36.520 --> 00:35:43.280 It's a really it will sound better it'll be really interesting um what maybe people could 00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:48.680 come up with because when I think of Denton now that I've lived here for like 20 years 00:35:48.680 --> 00:35:57.860 and I've become very involved um here when I think of Denton I don't think about music 00:35:57.860 --> 00:36:05.320 or necessarily the College of Music or you know anything that maybe people outside of 00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:10.720 our city would think of I think about the and it just sounds so cheesy but like I really 00:36:10.720 --> 00:36:16.080 I think about the people and I think about the people who are you know when we had the 00:36:16.080 --> 00:36:25.720 winter storm who were busting their booties out you know risking their own health to help 00:36:25.720 --> 00:36:32.900 others and all of these crazy non-profits that we have here in Denton for the people 00:36:32.900 --> 00:36:38.160 and like just the caring and I know that that's that that might be too specific for Denton 00:36:38.160 --> 00:36:44.440 but I mean it'd be nice for people if we do a call for them to kind of maybe have a Dentonite 00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:51.680 or just someone who can learn more about people or you know as a community like it would be 00:36:51.680 --> 00:36:59.440 nice to kind of have something like you know that kind of connects not just people in Denton 00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:04.680 but people to people and like have it it's only an open call I would respond to it myself 00:37:04.680 --> 00:37:10.200 I don't know if that's allowed but it's only uh it's only one more letter it's only one 00:37:10.200 --> 00:37:20.920 more letter but you could have it say Denton instead of dream yep less inspiring but you 00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:25.760 know just an idea many different ways we could go since Denton is kind of its own you know 00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:31.700 the thing you see Denton brought up in so many different ways and that are unusual so 00:37:31.700 --> 00:37:36.680 just an idea well think of oak street has the little d what if you just had a lower 00:37:36.680 --> 00:37:43.800 case d I don't know if there's there were some issues with like the d music symbol I 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:48.440 think there were some I don't know if the city owns that design or not I just think 00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:56.440 but that's an idea it's really hard to inspire people and like this is what artists do right 00:37:56.440 --> 00:38:01.840 like this is what like it's hard for us as a committee to come up with the idea that's 00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:07.640 gonna be the thing that everyone wants to see and photographs themselves and so that 00:38:07.640 --> 00:38:12.920 shouldn't we shouldn't try to make that our jobs we should allow artists to do that job 00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:20.960 you know I was thinking about one of the phrases uses Denton as north of ordinary and who'd 00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:25.520 want to have their picture taken in front of a big thing says ordinary it's like no 00:38:25.520 --> 00:38:32.640 I don't think so oh you could go the original you could go odd right ODD yeah that's the 00:38:32.640 --> 00:38:37.760 original Denton district and I do like the idea of using the word Denton because it is 00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:44.480 pretty unique and kind of has a artistic or or a art connotation but maybe we could use 00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:49.640 the fonts or the symbols could be kind of taken from different art even music symbols 00:38:49.640 --> 00:38:55.040 or notes that could you know signify music or art in general doesn't have to be necessarily 00:38:55.040 --> 00:39:00.640 all music notes but paintbrush and other things but still spell out didn't with like a multi 00:39:00.640 --> 00:39:08.840 you know tiered or multi use of of fonts kind of to make a large scale you know word word 00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:16.640 then I know I'm not a designer but I mean I'm just saying maybe the word didn't does 00:39:16.640 --> 00:39:21.800 kind of stick and it is you know I mean you can't really go wrong by using the term it 00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:32.000 the actual term itself or what you're trying to just to the signal it's a good idea we 00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:41.960 could have a giant Scrabble board I'll tell you what is what I'll do is I'll throw together 00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:47.400 a few things and see if we can get a subcommittee that together for these I think we only had 00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:53.840 some suggested subcommittees in the past Gary I think that's that's really what we have 00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:59.840 we didn't have anybody specifically that were had signed up for the Carroll Street let's 00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:06.040 say or this other particular art piece here so I think we need to get some subcommittees 00:40:06.040 --> 00:40:15.080 going for those we want to maybe put a subcommittee together for the for a couple pieces kind 00:40:15.080 --> 00:40:22.040 of make it easy for everybody so not everyone's jumping back and forth between different subcommittees 00:40:22.040 --> 00:40:33.160 so maybe take this this this $300,000 whether it's Carol the the word art and just pick 00:40:33.160 --> 00:40:44.200 out a scope and a budget for each one of those with one subcommittee so we're talking about 00:40:44.200 --> 00:40:50.280 a couple different projects though right like there's the there's the funding for the highway 00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:56.360 thing and then there's also the Carroll Boulevard so there's the roundabout the Carroll Boulevard 00:40:56.360 --> 00:41:01.200 and the Teasley Dallas are those the locations or is there a potential other location as 00:41:01.200 --> 00:41:05.960 well well we could we could come up with with any location you that you could think of there 00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:14.480 the dream the dream the music word we were thinking of maybe you know just kind of throwing 00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:19.640 out an idea to get things started was right there at Dallas and Dell up on the the hill 00:41:19.640 --> 00:41:25.760 on the railroad tracks where it gave it even a little bit more height and there was some 00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:34.800 space there but it could we could really come up with ideas anywhere I can show that particular 00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:44.920 one here let's see if I can share my screen again I just happened to pull that in case 00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:56.320 we needed it so this is the Bell and Eagle here and so the railroad tracks here there's 00:41:56.320 --> 00:42:04.720 a hill that runs from the street there's no sidewalk but it does run along this particular 00:42:04.720 --> 00:42:13.320 direction here so if you go north of those trees there's a long it kind of starts tapering 00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:17.680 down all the way over to Robertson that might not be the best location but that was just 00:42:17.680 --> 00:42:24.720 something that we had thought about it's definitely a drive-by rather than foot traffic because 00:42:24.720 --> 00:42:31.200 there's no walkway no path along that way yeah and we talked about that too we could 00:42:31.200 --> 00:42:37.080 definitely build one if that was a location that was picked so don't discourage you like 00:42:37.080 --> 00:42:43.280 an over footpath is that what you're saying yes we could do a winding footpath up to it 00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:47.320 and then coming back because it would have to be winding to make it ADA accessible to 00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:54.080 meet all those right those those degrees on the slants yeah someone who has like ridden 00:42:54.080 --> 00:43:00.600 my bike down Eagle and then made that turn onto Dallas Drive that is definitely not very 00:43:00.600 --> 00:43:07.280 pedestrian friendly so this is a great opportunity to make that area more interesting well and 00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:11.880 obviously whatever we choose is going to be amazing and people are going to want to take 00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:18.520 pictures in front of it so we don't want anyone to yeah where would they park too I wonder 00:43:18.520 --> 00:43:26.720 if they were to know it's we'll drive fast people are yeah that location is problematic 00:43:26.720 --> 00:43:32.880 for parking and just people running in front of cars and people not paying attention it's 00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:40.360 not a very pretty location honestly we're gonna beautify it but there's still a pawn 00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:46.600 shop and a vape shop and like a bunch of closed stuff down there you know it's it's not where 00:43:46.600 --> 00:43:52.240 you would dream or achieve or inspire or love or whatever word you put that's not the place 00:43:52.240 --> 00:43:57.240 I would think of as the first place to stop my car and walk over and take my picture in 00:43:57.240 --> 00:44:05.840 front of that with the pawn shop in the back you know we'll look at a few other possible 00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:12.120 locations that throughout the city I do like the idea though of the potential for putting 00:44:12.120 --> 00:44:17.360 something there that changes that area and makes it more desirable and makes people love 00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:23.280 it and put more care in I agree I think it can be done for sure and if it's not this 00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:28.760 piece maybe it's a different art piece that could go there you know next time you drive 00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:33.920 by it if you look at it it really kind of comes from from the ground level from Robertson 00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:38.640 and it goes all the way up to those trees so you could almost put something that kind 00:44:38.640 --> 00:44:45.920 of follows that terrain and put lights on it you know like dominoes but not not specific 00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:52.040 that's probably a bad example but something that that could create some depth especially 00:44:52.040 --> 00:44:58.520 at night time could be kind of neat this might be a question for you later Gary or I don't 00:44:58.520 --> 00:45:03.960 know who I would ask but but in terms of like when subcommittees or whatever are formed 00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:10.240 for these projects like if me as an artist if I'm like oh this is something that I might 00:45:10.240 --> 00:45:18.440 want to apply for would I just recuse myself from participating in that yeah yes that would 00:45:18.440 --> 00:45:32.160 be the best the best choice okay do we have any other questions John do we need to ask 00:45:32.160 --> 00:45:39.640 for nominations or for the subcommittee so yes I think what we've identified is we really 00:45:39.640 --> 00:45:46.120 have kind of two subcommittees may be here or it depends on what the committee wants 00:45:46.120 --> 00:45:52.040 to do but definitely it would probably be best just for everybody's time to make sure 00:45:52.040 --> 00:45:59.600 that one subcommittee does carol drive at least and then another could be looking at 00:45:59.600 --> 00:46:11.120 the other locations the roundabout and the the eagle in and Dallas Drive type of one 00:46:11.120 --> 00:46:16.520 at the same time even though the eagle and Dallas Drive one hasn't sold wait not the 00:46:16.520 --> 00:46:26.360 eagle and Dallas Drive they went over it that what is that Teasley and and Bell yeah or 00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:31.480 Teasley and Dallas Drive I'm getting all confused as Dallas and Teasley hit it Dallas and Teasley 00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:37.240 okay yeah all right so Dallas and Teasley and those as that's the possibility and then 00:46:37.240 --> 00:46:45.400 continue looking for something for the single word one as a kind of key sculpture in those 00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:50.200 because I think that you can definitely get some really good bang for your buck moving 00:46:50.200 --> 00:46:57.000 along carol boulevard and so even having a single artist be able to do a call for a single 00:46:57.000 --> 00:47:03.480 artist to do those or in the scope is tell a story with three different pieces of art 00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:08.120 because literally if somebody's going along that trail they're going to see all three 00:47:08.120 --> 00:47:14.600 of those out on that particular trail so it'll be nice and then one of those actually has 00:47:14.600 --> 00:47:20.440 a little shade in the rest structure that's there that the little doghouse that we had 00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:25.360 in the picture and that could be right there for something that takes a little bit more 00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:31.880 viewing side of it so it depends on what that subcommittee would like to be able to see 00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:36.360 so I think that's definitely one that would be a really good subcommittee one and then 00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:41.560 maybe a second subcommittee to be able to do the other two areas and then we'll take 00:47:41.560 --> 00:47:49.800 a look at the single word one as uh as another example or it will form that one the single 00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:57.660 word one I would expect would have to have more funding for it because thou just to scope 00:47:57.660 --> 00:48:02.040 is going to require a lot more money than something a little bit smaller that would 00:48:02.040 --> 00:48:10.800 fit on carol boulevard let's say 00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:18.920 so right now the uh fire station is the law firm of franklin lin and steel and then the 00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:24.160 tennis center is the law firm of franklin nick nick nicholson and steel 00:48:24.160 --> 00:48:32.580 sounds like two dentin law firms there for you there you go subcommittees now should 00:48:32.580 --> 00:48:38.480 should we should we volunteer yeah that'd be great this would be a great time I would 00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:44.280 volunteer for the carol boulevard I live right here there 00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:46.000 okay so the carol boulevard we have alisha 00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:51.840 um I'd like I could I'd like to do carol 00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.460 okay thanks Meredith 00:48:54.460 --> 00:48:58.880 I'd like to are we volunteering for the word one also or is that later 00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:03.600 uh later we'll get to that one 00:49:03.600 --> 00:49:06.200 I volunteer for the carol boulevard one as well 00:49:06.200 --> 00:49:09.520 okay thanks Adam 00:49:09.520 --> 00:49:16.080 okay we've got three people for the carol boulevard and now we need a group for the 00:49:16.080 --> 00:49:31.040 roundabout and the uh gallison teasley 00:49:31.040 --> 00:49:32.440 I would do that one as well 00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:38.520 okay I'll volunteer for gallison teasley 00:49:38.520 --> 00:49:48.760 thanks Adam do we have another 00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:51.760 Meredith 00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:52.760 you're willing to 00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:57.360 I'm going to be moving soon if you need someone you can put me down for now but I probably 00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:05.520 wouldn't be available at the conclusion of the project so 00:50:05.520 --> 00:50:10.280 uh I'm actually going to be moving abroad but not till next calendar year 00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:12.480 okay oh wow 00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:16.200 yeah congratulations thank you I'm retiring 00:50:16.200 --> 00:50:25.320 wow I'm so jealous but not yet I still have one last I have almost a year left to go 00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:29.280 well it sounds like you'd still be here for the selection process side of it so we'll 00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:30.280 put you down for that 00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:33.800 yeah I'm just selling my house now because the market is good so I'm going to be around 00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:34.800 till next March 00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:38.880 because when we get to construction we're going to need a cut out of you that we can 00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:41.640 kind of put up close to it 00:50:41.640 --> 00:50:42.640 there you go 00:50:42.640 --> 00:50:44.720 you'll be there in spirit just like that 00:50:44.720 --> 00:50:48.440 I will well yeah 00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:54.800 okay now now we have the word I'm just going to call it the name of the project is the 00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:55.800 word 00:50:55.800 --> 00:51:02.000 so who would like to do that I think Alicia you've already bowed out of that one 00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:04.520 I'd like to be a part of that one 00:51:04.520 --> 00:51:05.520 oh Adam okay thank you 00:51:05.520 --> 00:51:08.520 I'll do that one 00:51:08.520 --> 00:51:09.520 oh so Mane 00:51:09.520 --> 00:51:15.320 Meredith has two or three 00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:20.720 has two or three are you trying to make a larger statement Meredith you really want 00:51:20.720 --> 00:51:21.720 to do that one 00:51:21.720 --> 00:51:25.400 you're monopolizing that with my taste and vision 00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:32.240 no I'm not but yeah I'd like I'm super interested in that one 00:51:32.240 --> 00:51:35.680 I can bow out of another one but that's my first choice 00:51:35.680 --> 00:51:40.720 all right then that that's our projects and let me read that back so Carroll Boulevard 00:51:40.720 --> 00:51:45.200 we have Alicia, Meredith, and Adam 00:51:45.200 --> 00:51:50.440 and then for the roundabout in Dallas and Heazel we have Alicia, Ed, and Michelle and 00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:53.880 for the word we have Adam, Mane, and Meredith 00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:55.360 did I get that right 00:51:55.360 --> 00:52:01.840 great 00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:06.960 I think that's the end of that topic Mane 00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:10.760 item E receive report and hold discussion and give staff input on the request of the 00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:15.480 City Council develop a work session on the creation of the public-private partnership 00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:18.480 from the funding of the interactive fountain at Razor Ranch Park 00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:31.180 okay let me work to get that one up on the screen 00:52:31.180 --> 00:52:41.320 slipping back and forth sometimes can get a little bit bad 00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:50.320 okay this looks a little weird to me what does that look 00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:51.320 cutting off 00:52:51.320 --> 00:53:03.080 is it cutting off all right let me stop share and I'm gonna have to do something a little 00:53:03.080 --> 00:53:04.080 different 00:53:04.080 --> 00:53:17.460 let me try that again 00:53:17.460 --> 00:53:18.460 much better 00:53:18.460 --> 00:53:25.760 okay sometimes those powerpoint presentations fight each other 00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:33.280 okay during one of our council meetings we had a request from council member Davis 00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:39.960 and what he was proposing and this is like these one-minute type of proposals they do 00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:43.880 to be able to take a look at something a little bit different than they normally do and so 00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:50.560 one of those actually the start of one of those was the DWIF monument which was proposed 00:53:50.560 --> 00:53:56.400 by a council member council member Metzler now mayor pretend that's there and so now 00:53:56.400 --> 00:54:02.920 we have one that's been proposed by council member Davis and so they would like to get 00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:10.600 some kind of response back from the public art committee so that we would need to form 00:54:10.600 --> 00:54:15.680 a subcommittee to take a look at this and to review the development of some type of 00:54:15.680 --> 00:54:20.800 public private partnership for the future of the project and then form a subcommittee 00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:26.840 it can be the same one to review possible designs construction costs and any ongoing 00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:31.360 maintenance costs that are involved so they're really looking at some kind of a feasibility 00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:38.720 study to be able to do some type of signature art piece that's also an interactive fountain 00:54:38.720 --> 00:54:44.920 and so if you're asking and wondering what that might look like here's the rotary fountain 00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:52.200 at riverfront park in spokane washington and so during the day you can see that it performs 00:54:52.200 --> 00:54:58.720 just like a spray ground or spray park for people in the community and so there's businesses 00:54:58.720 --> 00:55:03.800 and other things around and you can see a lot of fun activities that are going in this 00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:09.280 particular area in the park and they've got water sprays the kids run through and different 00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:15.120 things during that time and then at night time when it's closed for the people to run 00:55:15.120 --> 00:55:22.600 through it it becomes a very decorative very nicely lit fountain in the evening time and 00:55:22.600 --> 00:55:29.480 so it provides a couple of different things it provides really a nice art view and it 00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:36.360 provides activities in the community and it has proven to be a very significant draw of 00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:45.360 people to the park to to get greater visitation and also to the area downtown where the park 00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:50.240 is for people to enjoy the businesses and the restaurants and various things in the 00:55:50.240 --> 00:55:57.120 community which is why they proposed this original thing and so at spokane the rotary 00:55:57.120 --> 00:56:05.360 club took the lead in being able to raise funds for this particular project now originally 00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:10.840 uh they had estimated a cost of around a million dollars to be able to do this particular fountain 00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:16.000 that's just giving you an idea of how the budgets would work and that actually grew 00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:24.320 to 1.2 million after they ran into a few technical difficulties with it uh and the fountain was 00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:29.200 built and commissioned at that particular time some things that make people may not 00:56:29.200 --> 00:56:36.000 know about these this is not potable water something like out of the the city's water 00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:41.760 system and you'll see many fountains that just use that and most of the time that water 00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:47.600 has gone to just waste but anytime you throw people into the mix where that needs to be 00:56:47.600 --> 00:56:52.880 in direct contact with people like a swimming pool it falls under the state's health codes 00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:58.920 and so it needs to be uh run exactly like any spray ground does and so the spray ground 00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:04.960 at carlion park that type of an arrangement for it now just the spray ground over there 00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:09.440 i think gary what was the budget for that because i wasn't here during that it was it 00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:13.720 was four hundred thousand dollars john okay four hundred thousand dollars and since then 00:57:13.720 --> 00:57:21.900 we put the bath the bathrooms in right yes so how much was the 150 000 and so to be able 00:57:21.900 --> 00:57:26.640 to operate this normally in the state of texas you'd have to have restrooms that are close 00:57:26.640 --> 00:57:33.520 by you'd have to have some form of showers for it and literally underground here you 00:57:33.520 --> 00:57:38.160 have this large basin of water so think of an underground swimming pool that nobody gets 00:57:38.160 --> 00:57:44.320 in because that water is pumped out of that underground pool into these sprays and then 00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:49.920 when it comes back down it's filtered it's chemically treated and in the state of texas 00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:56.080 we would have a secondary disinfection system probably ultraviolet light which is what we 00:57:56.080 --> 00:58:00.280 have been using in all the other swimming pools and so that will tend to drive up the 00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:06.240 cost of some of these for it so you're really you're buying a swimming pool that you're 00:58:06.240 --> 00:58:12.080 erecting a piece of art above it now the rotary fountain that you see here isn't the only 00:58:12.080 --> 00:58:17.680 one that's out there uh that's used in this particular way but it was the only one that 00:58:17.680 --> 00:58:25.040 i could find in a few weeks time that had a public private type of an arrangement for 00:58:25.040 --> 00:58:33.120 it where you had a group like the rotaries do that we of course have our parks foundation 00:58:33.120 --> 00:58:38.760 and um and brooke more would want to take a look at this we've talked to her briefly 00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:45.320 about this that kind of involvement but we really haven't had that kind of fundraising 00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:52.240 for a single piece for that amount of money that i could find for denton and so that would 00:58:52.240 --> 00:58:58.640 be one of the challenges i think is to be able to identify enough partners that really 00:58:58.640 --> 00:59:05.120 want to be able to do this uh and council member davis his proposal was to do this over 00:59:05.120 --> 00:59:11.120 at razor ranch as a featured item to be able to bring more people to that park area and 00:59:11.120 --> 00:59:20.160 of course all the businesses and various agencies around razor ranch park or for it so that's 00:59:20.160 --> 00:59:26.000 what we have uh you can find variations of this type of sculpture in many other places 00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:31.920 this one is really just a water sculpture and so what you actually see in both of those 00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:37.960 pictures is exactly the same kind of sprays that it does it doesn't really vary that much 00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:46.480 you can go to places like in branson missouri and they use music flames lights and water 00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:52.280 sprays all moving computerized to move and tell stories and various things you can literally 00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:57.960 go online and and look at the schedule of music that they're going to play at any particular 00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:03.200 time of day to go watch a performance of this particular fountain now it's not one that 01:00:03.200 --> 01:00:10.280 is available for kids to get into fire and kids don't usually mix but that's another 01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:16.120 example of something very extreme but and that's a couple million dollars to about five 01:00:16.120 --> 01:00:21.480 million dollars to do and the only other one now that is local in the state that we've 01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:27.680 been able to discover is that 10 million dollar fountain that is going to go in at clide warn 01:00:27.680 --> 01:00:35.560 park in dallas has anyone heard of that one so far okay and that one will be one that 01:00:35.560 --> 01:00:41.520 um it's enough sprays and things it's not directly meant for for kids but it will be 01:00:41.520 --> 01:00:47.880 one that is going to be uh coordinated with music and sprays and doing those things with 01:00:47.880 --> 01:00:58.000 it so with that we'll go ahead and open it up for questions there's a nice little one 01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:04.400 in oklahoma city right downtown there's a waterfall park that looks like a water feature 01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:12.360 you might want to look at that one okay we'll do 01:01:12.360 --> 01:01:18.280 and one of our park planners jason donnell he has come up with quite a list of different 01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:24.960 ones that are around but each one of them has been built with grant monies uh with but 01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:31.520 not this public-private type partnership piece to it so we're really having a hard time melding 01:01:31.520 --> 01:01:36.040 those together to give the committee something to work with i mean you have to have some 01:01:36.040 --> 01:01:44.320 data to be able to look at to see if that's going to be feasible i love the idea of um 01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:51.120 you know if we can get the funding to make this water feature happen um the idea of this 01:01:51.120 --> 01:01:56.040 temporary public art programs that we've talked about putting into place like one potential 01:01:56.040 --> 01:02:03.680 avenue we could explore is um like if there is um a way that we could sink the water with 01:02:03.680 --> 01:02:12.960 music or um even like projection onto the water um we would do sort of like an annual 01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:19.240 open call for that sort of a temporary project where a musician or a projection artist would 01:02:19.240 --> 01:02:27.640 get to use the water feature for their work i've seen them uh artists do laser projections 01:02:27.640 --> 01:02:34.040 onto mist and so they'll create a light sculpture that particular way there's a swimming pool 01:02:34.040 --> 01:02:40.680 in schomburg illinois where at the end of the slide they have a ring formed and that 01:02:40.680 --> 01:02:46.880 ring has sprays that come out and they shoot a laser against it and so you'll have uh pretty 01:02:46.880 --> 01:02:50.720 stars and various things but the kids really like the one where they get down there and 01:02:50.720 --> 01:02:57.720 the shark opens its mouth just as they go through the ring uh so that that's it's art and but 01:02:57.720 --> 01:03:03.200 it's something that can be updated and and done so you'll think of it as what's temporary 01:03:03.200 --> 01:03:07.520 type of art and that could be used in that particular way but i haven't seen it done 01:03:07.520 --> 01:03:12.200 in like a city park right now there's someplace there's someplace i saw that was actually 01:03:12.200 --> 01:03:17.120 interactive where they had the um the mist screen with a projector and they had a basically 01:03:17.120 --> 01:03:21.240 a touch screen that you can draw your own imagery and it would show up on the mist so 01:03:21.240 --> 01:03:26.760 it became an interactive display as well and really the the idea behind this is they wanted 01:03:26.760 --> 01:03:32.520 a water feature at razor ranch and so uh at like the new ranger stadium there's a water 01:03:32.520 --> 01:03:37.120 feature as you walk in and what it is it's just a really large concrete pad and it has 01:03:37.120 --> 01:03:41.520 water jets that come out of it and of course nolan ryan's at the front of it his statue 01:03:41.520 --> 01:03:45.600 is so like what alicia said if you wanted to do something to work you'd switch that 01:03:45.600 --> 01:03:51.400 art out we could always put an art pedestal in the middle that could obviously get wet 01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:56.160 and have the you know the the pedestal be there and then the the water shoot around 01:03:56.160 --> 01:04:01.280 it and then with all the technology that we have today that you could program the lights 01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:07.040 in the jet and then it could all the and this is what the ranger stadium does also is the 01:04:07.040 --> 01:04:12.000 lights are in the jet and then it programmed it's programmable to the music that's playing 01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:15.640 you know on the outside of the stadium so that music's dancing up and down the lights 01:04:15.640 --> 01:04:19.440 are coming different colors and of course you have nolan ryan standing in the middle 01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:24.680 of it so uh we could obviously do something like that because really in the end they wanted 01:04:24.680 --> 01:04:30.080 a water feature there so how could we incorporate art into that water feature and not turn it 01:04:30.080 --> 01:04:34.720 into you know a five million dollar piece to where we could turn it into a really nice 01:04:34.720 --> 01:04:39.160 splash pad that would probably be around the five six hundred thousand dollar mark and then 01:04:39.160 --> 01:04:42.800 obviously we have the art pedestal like alicia you know we could and then we could switch 01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:47.320 that art out and so i really like that idea and how we can incorporate what others have 01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:52.520 done and then add that that really that really a splash pad so it'd be a splash pad with 01:04:52.520 --> 01:04:57.200 art so yeah and i don't think the art has to be on a pedestal like yeah it wouldn't 01:04:57.200 --> 01:05:03.280 have to be but yeah you know yeah yeah because nolan i think he stands on something about 01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:12.680 six inches tall so um my my question um to alicia's idea was having um you know these 01:05:12.680 --> 01:05:20.500 temporary art projects and bringing in kind of uh more contemporary i guess like new media 01:05:20.500 --> 01:05:25.880 artists or light music artists that could use that as kind of like their canvas and 01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:32.040 maybe have uh you know performance nights i don't know whatever but um is that something 01:05:32.040 --> 01:05:36.600 that just kind of all of these fountains are capable of doing at this point or do we is 01:05:36.600 --> 01:05:43.280 that kind of a specification that we need to look for going forward you'd have to specify 01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:50.160 those okay i think that would we would i would personally want to look into that going forward 01:05:50.160 --> 01:05:56.960 just to keep our options but council member davis was in his vision that he showed especially 01:05:56.960 --> 01:06:03.560 with the spokane um that riverfront one was very significant piece that's a very signature 01:06:03.560 --> 01:06:10.120 piece he was looking at and something a little more permanent of what it was and so i think 01:06:10.120 --> 01:06:15.760 what he's asking for is you know kind of this feasibility study of taking a look at is that 01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:21.920 something we could do in net and do we have uh available partners that may want to align 01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:30.360 to help be able to fund that and then to how do we then create um something moving forward 01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:35.560 such as how much is that going to cost to operate and what would be the the maintenance 01:06:35.560 --> 01:06:41.080 type of issues that could show up that would have to be funded by the city in the future 01:06:41.080 --> 01:06:46.880 for it um ideally if you raise a plenty of money to be able to build it that you suck 01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:53.840 some of that away uh as um kind of an endowment to be able to take care of it um similar to 01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:59.720 how like universities will do many of those things but we are not there at that this particular 01:06:59.720 --> 01:07:05.040 point and so i think what they're asking is that we need to just is this feasible this 01:07:05.040 --> 01:07:11.680 is something that um the public art committee can get behind to be able to support uh and 01:07:11.680 --> 01:07:15.640 so i think we see a subcommittee to take a look at those those two items there that we 01:07:15.640 --> 01:07:22.600 had to be able to explore and we can obviously put together what his initial idea was you 01:07:22.600 --> 01:07:27.560 know council member davis's idea and now what what our idea or what you know the pack's 01:07:27.560 --> 01:07:32.520 idea is today and say this is what your you know initial thing is this is what it's going 01:07:32.520 --> 01:07:36.920 to cost this is what the you know the the pack is put together and then this is what 01:07:36.920 --> 01:07:41.600 it's going to cost that way we can show those two variables and and really tell that story 01:07:41.600 --> 01:07:47.680 on kind of what now what now what you your idea is to have here so and what i think alicia 01:07:47.680 --> 01:07:52.600 was saying having something a little smaller or something that but you don't if you build 01:07:52.600 --> 01:07:59.160 the fountain pieces that are not to be played in it changes the whole nature of the supporting 01:07:59.160 --> 01:08:03.440 things for it but if you build it for to be played in that's where it gets a bit more 01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:19.360 expensive to operate that's great i like it we have any volunteers for that subcommittee 01:08:19.360 --> 01:08:26.120 i would do it okay alicia thank you i would say i mean i would do it does anyone there 01:08:26.120 --> 01:08:31.920 does he want to okay i don't i'm just really excited maybe it's just like coming like i'm 01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:37.160 just really excited about all these things yeah i like the word interactive so i'll be 01:08:37.160 --> 01:08:44.200 involved in it i love the interaction so adam okay you want to think about a potential partner 01:08:44.200 --> 01:08:50.960 could be more on the technology side like you know to think about a partner who could 01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:57.880 bring a level of technology to this fountain that would allow us to make it like a tool 01:08:57.880 --> 01:09:05.760 that different artists could utilize to bring different projects into existence right so 01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:13.880 right now i have alicia meredith and adam as the uh subcommittee for that so we all 01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:22.280 good okay and and john just to give i like to be optimistic we did have one project where 01:09:22.280 --> 01:09:27.160 we did raise quite a bit of money and that was uh eureka 2 and it was just a little over 01:09:27.160 --> 01:09:32.680 a million dollars and so it wasn't just that wasn't what you per se a pra a public private 01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:37.960 partnership that was really going out and raising money for for that playground so we 01:09:37.960 --> 01:09:42.640 could definitely i just wanted to shine some light and show that we we can raise that kind 01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:49.040 of money we just have to to get busy so i think a key like what drew just said if it's 01:09:49.040 --> 01:09:54.680 public private who in that immediate area so if a location such as council member davis 01:09:54.680 --> 01:10:02.760 located at at razor ranch who has uh interest in their whose businesses are around that 01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:07.080 would benefit from having this is like where does the money come from for clied warden 01:10:07.080 --> 01:10:13.760 park it came from everything around it and so this is the same thing is that's the starting 01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:19.920 point is who's close by who has an interest in in that and so that's where that the first 01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:28.840 steps would happen and the 10 million that they're doing for the fountain decline where 01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:38.920 it came from a single donor any single donors any single donors right now on the pack that 01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:44.680 would like to be able to step forward and do that two million maybe two and a half million 01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:53.680 would really work i think i have so much time to down to donate i'll just do anything anymore 01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:57.720 looking for a couple million dollars i'll take one 01:10:57.720 --> 01:11:10.120 i'll give you a deal okay thank you everybody in item f is received report and hold discussion 01:11:10.120 --> 01:11:16.280 regarding the public art committee annual 2021 meeting schedule 01:11:16.280 --> 01:11:33.800 let's see i don't have that eddie do you have that schedule you can throw it for us 01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:36.680 i see gary's lips moving but i don't hear anything i don't know if he's talking to us 01:11:36.680 --> 01:11:45.080 or not yeah i was talking to myself sorry about that it was a good conversation um awesome 01:11:45.080 --> 01:11:52.040 so council recently had a discussion about starting to move forward with in-person meetings 01:11:52.040 --> 01:11:59.240 so we're working towards that for next month so uh if eddie could bring up the schedule 01:11:59.240 --> 01:12:08.320 for the group wanted to see if there was discussion on when you wanted to meet in person if if 01:12:08.320 --> 01:12:14.440 some people are still concerned about meeting in person we can set it up so you can kind 01:12:14.440 --> 01:12:22.460 of virtual into the live meeting as kind of a transition so if if you do have some concerns 01:12:22.460 --> 01:12:27.800 you feel free to reach out to us and let us know we can plan for that but wanted to start 01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:36.080 the discussion with the group in regards to um if you want to stay the same day on fridays 01:12:36.080 --> 01:12:40.200 uh or if you want to go back to thursdays you know i think before the pandemic you were 01:12:40.200 --> 01:12:45.360 thursdays at four um i think some people's schedules and work schedules have changed 01:12:45.360 --> 01:12:51.920 a little bit and uh so i don't know if that's still conducive for the group but wanted to 01:12:51.920 --> 01:13:01.080 have a discussion with when you uh wanted you wanted when you wanted to meet and eddie 01:13:01.080 --> 01:13:09.600 we see your packed meeting schedule we don't see the calendar i think that when we talked 01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:16.840 about it last month um we all kind of thought maybe maybe if i'm i don't know if i'm wrong 01:13:16.840 --> 01:13:24.520 or not um maybe thursdays because yeah you're right on fridays maybe yeah thursday at four 01:13:24.520 --> 01:13:30.800 is what was discussed i think this meeting was made friday for scheduling reasons unknown 01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:37.200 yes sir yeah that was it so yeah thursday at four was when um okay i think the majority 01:13:37.200 --> 01:13:43.920 of us said was the best time is but that was when we were talking virtual that we have 01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:48.920 that's what eddie suggested that when we went back to her in-person meetings to go back 01:13:48.920 --> 01:13:54.720 to the normal schedule now i'll still be doing virtual i don't have a problem saying that 01:13:54.720 --> 01:13:59.760 um so you'll have to find a way to have a virtual ed there because i will not be meeting 01:13:59.760 --> 01:14:07.800 you in person okay and then they talk about having those you know both so yeah i will 01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:20.600 need to do virtual through the summer so is everyone else i'm fine with in person okay 01:14:20.600 --> 01:14:27.400 but everyone else good is good with the thursday at four again just at four works yes i see 01:14:27.400 --> 01:14:36.320 me virtual as well okay not that i don't like everyone i do but it's still a pandemic 01:14:36.320 --> 01:14:45.840 hasn't changed i don't know if we'll be ubering any food to you guys though that's cool just 01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:51.780 send some uh dogecoin over we'll order it ourselves we'll promise to have virtual food 01:14:51.780 --> 01:14:59.440 virtual food yeah perfect there you go it's a buffet all you can eat so that was that 01:14:59.440 --> 01:15:06.120 a voting item i think it would be good to have a voting item okay um yeah or at least 01:15:06.120 --> 01:15:14.920 at least you know just a show of hands everyone's okay to suggest that we meet hybrid uh thursdays 01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:18.120 at four p.m moving forward and i'll second 01:15:18.120 --> 01:15:29.400 i before you vote is it back to the first thursday of the month 01:15:29.400 --> 01:15:37.200 starting in june yes so that's that's uh you know in two weeks two weeks do you still 01:15:37.200 --> 01:15:43.440 want to have it or do you want to maybe focus on the subcommittees for the next month and 01:15:43.440 --> 01:15:53.680 start and it i guess so july would be the first is is that okay for the first with everybody 01:15:53.680 --> 01:16:02.800 for a whole from the holiday standpoint yes yes yes okay so eddie let's let's start there 01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:09.400 we'll just cancel the june meeting and then we'll we'll focus everyone's time and efforts 01:16:09.400 --> 01:16:15.320 on the subcommittees for for the next five six weeks we need to vote for uh counseling 01:16:15.320 --> 01:16:21.980 the june meeting okay so i move that we cancel the june meeting and that we move forward 01:16:21.980 --> 01:16:29.000 meeting the first thursday every month at 4 p.m starting in july and i'll second 01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:44.320 aye yes yes yes yes aye aye 01:16:44.320 --> 01:16:52.760 and um gary or john gary i guess would you um be able to send us oh i guess i guess it'll 01:16:52.760 --> 01:16:59.760 be in the minutes but i guess the any information that we'll need moving forward with the subcommittees 01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:05.560 and stuff we'll work on a report and give her a summary of of what what group they're 01:17:05.560 --> 01:17:12.840 in and then um what the topic is and maybe some bullet points with each one okay and 01:17:12.840 --> 01:17:21.680 then send emails to those groups try to find some some dates and times awesome thank you 01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:36.000 the tennis center those that are signed the tennis center will also get that too yes any 01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:46.920 concluding items weren't we going to start discussing the tempering of the art but path 01:17:46.920 --> 01:17:52.520 forward what was that that wasn't on the agenda for today but i guess we could continue trying 01:17:52.520 --> 01:17:57.880 to add it to the future yeah we the the reason why we held off is because we didn't know 01:17:57.880 --> 01:18:03.880 how you wanted to handle all this moving forward so we're trying to get everything into production 01:18:03.880 --> 01:18:09.840 and now we just added a few more items for discussion so um if if that's something that 01:18:09.840 --> 01:18:16.180 you would rather move forward pro instead of some of these um we just need to figure 01:18:16.180 --> 01:18:23.080 out what the budget is i guess the thing is that there will always be something right 01:18:23.080 --> 01:18:29.160 there will always be projects that we can have going on so at a certain point we'll 01:18:29.160 --> 01:18:36.760 just make time with an idea be to have some of the temporary art be it you know the dallas 01:18:36.760 --> 01:18:43.480 and teasley and eagle or not eagle now but carol that that could be an option also with 01:18:43.480 --> 01:18:48.920 the subcommittees yeah i think i think that's a great idea i also think you know we don't 01:18:48.920 --> 01:18:51.720 necessarily have to do this right now but i think at a certain point it'd be nice to 01:18:51.720 --> 01:18:59.200 have a subcommittee just for brainstorming about temporary art projects um because i 01:18:59.200 --> 01:19:04.440 think they don't always have to be like sculptural in nature they could be you know performance 01:19:04.440 --> 01:19:10.400 based or sound based or we could think about other forms so they wouldn't necessarily have 01:19:10.400 --> 01:19:26.160 like a a physical form that has to be like installed at the install okay 01:19:26.160 --> 01:19:41.720 anything else i guess i'll just add one more thing but maybe since that is kind of like 01:19:41.720 --> 01:19:47.840 the familiar form of public art right now maybe it would be a good idea to start there 01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:55.240 like um if the first kind of temporary art project we did it was like a sculptural one 01:19:55.240 --> 01:20:00.120 but then we sort of transitioned to other art forms after that but we use just sculptural 01:20:00.120 --> 01:20:06.160 like a thing along carol or at teesley or wherever um as a way of working out some of 01:20:06.160 --> 01:20:13.740 the details in terms of how the funding or the contracting and the that kind of um those 01:20:13.740 --> 01:20:23.680 kinds of details would work we we can put on the agenda so we can make sure that we're 01:20:23.680 --> 01:20:35.600 following meeting rules for discussion 01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:41.920 anything else we can close the meeting at 5 23 thanks everybody