1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,600 We'll start the meeting at 402 and open for May 21st and the first, we'll do the world 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:10,600 roll first. 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:21,280 So, Mone Franklin here, Ed Steele here, Meredith Ewing here, Adam Chamberlain here, Alicia 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:41,480 Egert here, Joey Lecce is unexcused absence, Michelle Lynn is absent, Frederick Nicholson, 5 00:00:41,480 --> 00:00:57,920 and then Georgina Ngozi, I was here, I'm sorry, assuming Georgina is absent, we'll move along 6 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:19,440 to item A, is considered approval for the minutes of April 16th, 2021. 7 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,400 Motion to approve. 8 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:48,400 And on second, if one in favor, Ed, hi, Meredith, hi, Adam, hi, Alicia, hi, Fred, I am my phone 9 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:56,680 case muting, that's weird, everyone's in favor, in item B, receive report and hold discussion 10 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,880 and give staff direction regarding the original district's application for the Texas Commission 11 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:07,360 on the Arts, TCA, arts response to the cultural district project grant program. 12 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:16,320 Okay, this is an item for an application for a grant for the TCA, and we're looking to 13 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:22,120 do some renovations and improvements to the stage in Quaker Town Park. 14 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,600 What we're proposing to do is make actual enhancements to the stage itself, beautify 15 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:41,640 it, and then put a roof on the building and some backdrop that would be part of that structure. 16 00:02:41,640 --> 00:02:48,040 The proposed grant application is for $100,000 at this time, we're finalizing that number, 17 00:02:48,040 --> 00:03:01,420 but we're thinking the project's about $200,000 in total to be $100,000 match. 18 00:03:01,420 --> 00:03:07,080 Any questions? 19 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:15,000 This is the same grant application that was applied for last year for the DWIF monument, 20 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:21,640 and I think it was $26,000, if I can remember correctly. 21 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:29,160 So there has to be a letter of support from the ODD district, and that's what this is 22 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,360 requesting. 23 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:48,800 This will actually go to city council as well. 24 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:49,800 Any questions? 25 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:50,800 Comments? 26 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,040 I have one question. 27 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,080 With the improvements to the stage, is it looking to be able to be used at nighttime, 28 00:03:55,080 --> 00:04:00,600 meaning there would be lights added on within that roofing structure? 29 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:23,360 Great, do we just ... I guess we would need a motion for consideration. 30 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:24,360 Motion to approve? 31 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:25,360 I'll second. 32 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,360 Everyone in favor? 33 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,360 Aye. 34 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,800 Aye. 35 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,400 Absolutely, aye. 36 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:35,400 Aye. 37 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,400 I'm here now. 38 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:37,400 Aye. 39 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:38,400 Michelle's here. 40 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,400 Yes. 41 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,400 Everyone is in favor? 42 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:44,400 Yes. 43 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:45,400 Okay. 44 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:57,280 Let me move on to item C, which is kind of the same thing as the ... C is receive report 45 00:04:57,280 --> 00:05:00,360 and hold discussion and get staff direction regarding the letter of support from the original 46 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:06,520 district for application be made for the Tejas Storytelling Association for the Texas Commission 47 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,200 of the Arts in response to the cultural district grant program. 48 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,680 This is for the same grant application. 49 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:21,000 This is for storytelling for a little bit less for their operations programming, and 50 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:42,400 the total was $7,000, and that's for the 2022 storytelling festival. 51 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:43,400 Grants have to be completed. 52 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:52,560 The grant cycle runs from September 1 to August 31. 53 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,560 Motion to approve? 54 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:54,560 I'll second. 55 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:55,560 Hi. 56 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,560 All in favor? 57 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:57,560 Aye. 58 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:58,560 Aye. 59 00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:59,560 Aye. 60 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:00,560 Aye. 61 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:01,560 Everyone's in favor? 62 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:02,560 Thank you. 63 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:18,120 And item D is receive report and hold discussion and get staff input regarding the status of 64 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:24,080 the following public art committee projects, one, the North Lakes Dog Park, two, the Roland 65 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:30,880 Vela Athletic Complex, three, the Tennis Center, four, Fire Station number three, five, the 66 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,920 MLK Project, and six is the Interracial Fellowship Monument, and seven is the Carroll Boulevard 67 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:40,280 Art Trail, Dallas and Teasley Sculptures and Bonnevay Bray Roundabouts. 68 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:41,280 Okay. 69 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:49,160 I'm going to be bringing that up just give me a quick moment here. 70 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,920 Just a quick comment, Shalon and Caroline, do you mind turning your cameras on since 71 00:06:52,920 --> 00:07:09,360 your staff? 72 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,400 Alright can everybody see the screen now? 73 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:12,400 Yes. 74 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:13,400 Okay. 75 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:14,400 Very good. 76 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:15,400 All right. 77 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:16,400 We'll just take these like we normally would. 78 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:17,720 We have the North Lakes Dog Park. 79 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:26,400 Again, that's a budget of $35,000, their subcommittee and are essentially the statuses, the approval 80 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,920 of proposal that was went before council. 81 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,800 It was actually put on the consent agenda that was approved by council on Tuesday on 82 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,000 the 18th. 83 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:41,140 And so right now the contract is being finalized and PO is being cut and we are starting physically 84 00:07:41,140 --> 00:07:47,080 on that project, as far as the artist being able to create that sculpture. 85 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,400 So we're moving right along with the particular one. 86 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,720 John, what's the projected timeline? 87 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:58,800 The projected timeline is hopefully we'll have this one done by the end of August. 88 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,600 Some of the delays we had changed a little bit in there. 89 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,720 So we're going to have to look at that real hard. 90 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:09,560 And I've got had a quick meeting with the artist yesterday on the phone. 91 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,880 And so he's just waiting for the time to get going. 92 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:17,320 But he's fairly confident that they'll be able to do it by that time. 93 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:23,560 John, do we intend to pull the subcommittee together for the color selection? 94 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:24,560 Yes. 95 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:30,000 That was mentioned in the last time that some of the color selection that that pistols, 96 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,600 maybe somebody wanted a little bit more vibrant. 97 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,480 And so we'll remit with that to talk about it. 98 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:41,160 Just to refresh the memories, the materials was aircraft aluminum, and that was a powder 99 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,680 coated aircraft aluminum. 100 00:08:43,680 --> 00:08:49,640 But there are some other shades and so on that are more vibrant that some of the members 101 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,960 thought that might be a better look for that particular thing. 102 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:58,160 So we'll get together and take a look at what kind of a palette of colors that are available 103 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,160 for this. 104 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,960 I'll get that from the artist. 105 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:07,480 But that particular design feature doesn't have to be really implemented until very close 106 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,500 to the almost finished fabrication time. 107 00:09:10,500 --> 00:09:17,280 So we actually have 30 to 45 days to be able to look at that. 108 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:22,280 Okay, I'll move on to the next slide. 109 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,440 This is still in fabrication and it seems to be coming along very well. 110 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:31,000 I haven't had an immediate contact from the artist right at this time. 111 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:36,420 But it looks like they're moving and will be able to produce this within the time frame. 112 00:09:36,420 --> 00:09:46,080 So right now we are looking at about mid July from the last time I saw. 113 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:52,720 Just a quick update on the foundation, Drew, would you like to kind of explain what you 114 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,760 guys are working on? 115 00:09:54,760 --> 00:10:00,840 Yes, so on the foundation through your recommendations, the concrete work started today to put the 116 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:05,340 planters around the art pedestal. 117 00:10:05,340 --> 00:10:13,640 And so we a couple weeks ago, we installed the conduit for the irrigation and the lighting 118 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,080 for that sculpture. 119 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:19,880 And then the concrete work started, like I said, this week actually started today for 120 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:26,360 them forming up for the new planter beds that will go around that sculpture. 121 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,520 And that's the planter beds and those changes were a result of council members that had 122 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:37,120 asked to have a less ability to reach out and touch that particular sculpture because 123 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,420 of heat concerns and that. 124 00:10:39,420 --> 00:10:43,320 And so softening it up a little bit around the base with the planter and bringing water 125 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:54,680 to it and giving a little distance between that and where people would touch it is appropriate. 126 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:58,680 Tennis center, the rest of the tennis center is really coming along. 127 00:10:58,680 --> 00:11:05,400 We have the main field house area there, the clubhouse is pretty much done. 128 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,240 Hope to have had a meeting before this, but we had a lot of other projects that were running 129 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,720 along, but it looks like we can start that. 130 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:16,800 So I will be getting with people starting this next week to look at that. 131 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,080 Well, first of all, we'll come up with a few possible locations. 132 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:27,640 I'll share some photos and various things of that before we have a meeting so we can 133 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,920 make sure we can discuss that. 134 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:40,160 So right now, those subcommittee members that we've got are Franklin Nicholson and Steele. 135 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:47,040 Fire Station 3, currently the call for artists is out in the wild and that is getting a few 136 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,240 good hits from it. 137 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:53,640 I've been contacted by eight different artists on being able to submit for this particular 138 00:11:53,640 --> 00:12:00,880 project and some of them are from bronze all the way to some very interesting styles of 139 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:01,880 sculpture. 140 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,520 So it's going to be a very eclectic look once all these things come in, so that's going 141 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,400 to be very interesting for it. 142 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:14,920 Now, those call for proposals are due on May 28th and so once those happen, I'll take those 143 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:22,880 and I'll get them into a visible form and we'll be able to meet on those particular 144 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:23,880 occasions. 145 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:30,760 And for that particular one, we have Franklin and Steele for that subcommittee. 146 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:35,440 MLK Jr. sculpture is still moving along. 147 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:40,840 I think it's just passing between the rough fabrication of those sculptures and to the 148 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:45,440 finer sculpting at this particular time. 149 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,840 Where next steps that we're currently doing in the department is we're going to be preparing 150 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:57,320 the site there for those sculptures and so the flag poles are coming and being moved 151 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:04,200 and we're going to be preparing some landscaping around that area and pouring a pad and then 152 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:09,440 doing a stamp concrete around that where they would be sitting on it. 153 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:15,120 And Drew, I think you mentioned that you would have oak leaves pressed into that. 154 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:24,240 So working with the artist, she wanted to have kind of a non-traditional stamp concrete 155 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:30,640 to where typically stamp concrete comes in a roll and everything is really squared and 156 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:38,360 it looks, I don't want to say this, almost like you're doing tile work, everything straight. 157 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:43,160 She wanted the leaves to look like they fell on the concrete when the concrete was wet. 158 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:50,220 So we found post oak leaf stamps and we're going to intermittently just stamp the concrete 159 00:13:50,220 --> 00:13:56,600 like the leaves fell on them or fell on the concrete and then it'll be poking out underneath 160 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:03,120 the sculpture and they'll be in the walkway so there'll just be a little bit of everywhere. 161 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:09,160 All right, next item, the DWAF monument is coming along. 162 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:14,960 I honestly am in contact with the artist Dina Fischer virtually every day. 163 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,760 She's getting very close to finalizing the rest of the designs. 164 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,880 We've actually included a few things here that you can see some of that progress for 165 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,040 it. 166 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,360 One thing that didn't make it in time for this meeting was that she actually produced 167 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:34,480 a video of holding up some of the designs and we're going like this and so you'll see 168 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:41,280 four or five different pictures just by doing that different angle on that for that lenticular 169 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,280 art. 170 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,840 So I think it's going to be very interesting. 171 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:53,560 We have run by all of the names to be historically accurate, Lenny McAdams and Pat Cheek were 172 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:58,680 both a part of that group to review that and they've also seen, I know that Lenny has seen 173 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:04,440 the final design for the lenticular art and has just followed them a little bit with it. 174 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:09,440 And so I think other people will be able to see that very soon too. 175 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,960 Again, that project needs to be completed by August, the end of August, because some 176 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:19,880 of those are funds through the hot funds. 177 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:27,240 So the actual park area, so this is, you won't recognize industrial street park very well 178 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:28,240 here. 179 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,880 This side here is an industrial street. 180 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,720 This side here is towards the parking lot over in the side. 181 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:39,720 And so this is getting pretty close to the final design of this area where there'll be 182 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:47,360 steps coming in, the name of the park will be posted through here on the steps and these 183 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:52,920 beds that you see here, this is where that lenticular art, these pieces go. 184 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:59,560 And so literally as people walk up, they will see some moment in time or some saying all 185 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,560 the way through that until they get past that. 186 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,300 So there'd be each side of this is also active. 187 00:16:04,300 --> 00:16:11,360 So if they walk on this side of that, they'll see all of those art pieces too. 188 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:18,360 This looks like it's just color, but in reality it's quotes, it's pictures of people and all 189 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:25,560 around the edges are all the names of the people that were on the DWIF. 190 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,520 So that's what the people as they get introduced to the park from industrial street will be 191 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,120 able to see. 192 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,400 And that's four sides in about four different angles. 193 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:40,020 And so there's a tremendous number of pictures and things in each one of these items. 194 00:16:40,020 --> 00:16:44,480 As people come on in, there's going to be concrete walkways. 195 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:50,320 If you've been out there, you know that this is a very difficult area to keep the sod growing 196 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,600 in the summertime. 197 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,720 It's really hot and it's difficult to keep things growing. 198 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,640 And if you get any traffic on it, it wears away that. 199 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:04,520 And so what we're proposing is to put in sod, not sod, but artificial turf in here that 200 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,920 stays cool. 201 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:12,360 And other than having to do concrete or something that it's not really practical. 202 00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:17,040 So that's what this area would be, and then the art piece here is this curtain wall as 203 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:24,080 we're calling it, curves like this, and this is more like a little amphitheater type of 204 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,080 area. 205 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,680 And they'll be able to walk all the way around the sculpture and there will be a seating 206 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,560 area of concrete benches through here. 207 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:40,560 And then there'll be the red buds all through over that particular area. 208 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:49,820 We have brand new ADA accessible ramps through here and then on the back side through here. 209 00:17:49,820 --> 00:17:55,480 And right over here is where we have the handicap parking for it. 210 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,640 And so it's very accessible. 211 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,840 If using a wheelchair, come right in here, enjoy it and get around all the different 212 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,480 parts of it and through the park. 213 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:13,520 As a quick reminder of some of the things that goes to the curtain wall looks like this 214 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:19,640 stainless steel rods hold everything together and people can walk around and they get a 215 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,600 different angle of all this stuff. 216 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,600 And one of the cool things is that they do have the app for the phone that they'll be 217 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,480 able to view that. 218 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:35,320 Some of those will bring up the person talking so that UNT did through some of their oral 219 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:41,760 history program, they recorded many of the people and they have what they said about 220 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,560 that particular ADA by evidence accomplishments at that time. 221 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:51,560 So it's going to be a very, very instructional but also very colorful and beautiful piece 222 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,600 as it goes. 223 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:59,040 Some of the bollards that we saw earlier were more of a rectangular originally. 224 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:04,880 The artist elected to be able to change the bollard to one of these types that will have 225 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:12,240 a wrap of that same type of material around each one of those pieces that kind of looks 226 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,320 like over here. 227 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:24,560 John, can you explain the ability to change and update those panels? 228 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:29,920 Each one of these, if let's say that somebody else comes in that wasn't a part of it, another 229 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:37,680 piece can be put in and some of these moved around at different times to be able to modify 230 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,840 some of the story if that's need be. 231 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,440 There are quite a few sayings that you can see here, quotes, and those were many of those 232 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:52,040 were provided through some of the histories that we've actually the artist found and through 233 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:58,860 Lenny McAdam to be able to provide those kind of quotes for it. 234 00:19:58,860 --> 00:20:03,440 So we have those kind of opportunities if we need to update at some point. 235 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:11,700 Okay, one of the new ones that we would look at coming in here is we have the Carroll Boulevard 236 00:20:11,700 --> 00:20:18,680 art trail and so we've identified some funding to be able to work with that. 237 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:24,720 It's kind of to be determined on how much can actually be spent on any particular area. 238 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:29,920 So in Carroll Boulevard, there's three different spots that are there, we can take a look at 239 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:30,920 some of those. 240 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:36,000 And so here's one of them close to panhandle on Carroll Boulevard. 241 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:43,480 And so this particular star item here is where that would be generally located. 242 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:48,560 And then I'm not really sure how close this one is to another area, but that's another 243 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,720 one where that comes back out to the street. 244 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:58,000 And then again, this one here, as it comes through here in this particular area here, 245 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,840 it's like there's a small decorative shade structure in that particular location. 246 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:08,040 It actually looks like a doghouse, but we're just going to call it a shade structure. 247 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:13,920 Okay, then another spot over here, very close to Crescent, I guess there are four locations 248 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,640 there. 249 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,600 Another one that we can bring forward because of some of the monies that we were able to 250 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:26,880 move from some of the medallions at the I-35. 251 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:34,660 And we'll be able to look at about $311,000, Gary, to be able to look at all these things 252 00:21:34,660 --> 00:21:40,920 to fund the Carroll Street and to fund this particular one here, the Bonnie Bray Roundtable 253 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:41,920 sculpture. 254 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:47,040 A quick video or a picture of that. 255 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:52,720 So we have Scripture Street and Bonnie Bray, and you can see that this is an area right 256 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,920 in the middle there to be able to place that one. 257 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,640 And so that will have a lot of visibility. 258 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:06,000 As this area gets built out because of the new medical facilities that are there, this 259 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,120 is getting to be a very busy street and intersection. 260 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:14,280 And if anybody's been there and tried the roundabout, it's moving along and keeping 261 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,360 things going very well. 262 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:20,720 So that is the basic location for that particular one. 263 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:26,360 We have another opportunity, which is the Dallas and Teasley sculpture. 264 00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:30,040 That's right at the intersection of Dallas Drive and Teasley Lane. 265 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,040 And this is one here. 266 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,200 We still have to figure out what we want to be able to fund that. 267 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:39,060 So literally, we'll have this certain amount of money that we'll be able to divvy up on 268 00:22:39,060 --> 00:22:43,120 basically the scope of each of those particular projects. 269 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:47,680 So our next step is really to finalize locations on all of these and then determine whatever 270 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:53,920 the art style is that we would like in those particular locations for it. 271 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,080 And so Dallas and Teasley. 272 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,680 So you have Dallas Drive and Teasley running this particular way. 273 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:06,360 And this particular little, I guess this little pocket park area, this star here, or where 274 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:09,560 the location can be in a variety of spots in here. 275 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,920 This doesn't necessarily have to be right there for that one. 276 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:21,000 But that's one of the other proposed locations in the past. 277 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,920 And then we have another item that we can throw out here too. 278 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,320 Now in Arlington, they have this particular sculpture, it's called Dream. 279 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,720 And what was the artist's name, Gary? 280 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,200 It is Schomburg. 281 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:42,040 And so it's a sculpture and this has a lot of holes in it because it's lit internally. 282 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:47,460 And so if you see this during the day, it looks like this at night. 283 00:23:47,460 --> 00:23:53,760 And this has been, in Arlington, one of those favorite places now to take graduation photos 284 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,760 for high school, for college. 285 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:01,000 And so at any particular time, their newspaper there is reporting that they've got kids in 286 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:07,760 their cap and gown out there showing that they're dreaming big for it. 287 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,960 That's their particular idea of this. 288 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:15,380 And this artist usually takes a single word like that that is more inspirational. 289 00:24:15,380 --> 00:24:20,920 And so we were thinking that we could come up with a word that also represents Denton 290 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:26,040 and do the same type of thing if that's the direction that we receive from the Public 291 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,040 Art Committee. 292 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,960 Hey, John, and another idea we had was the word music. 293 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:37,160 I know a few weeks ago, a few months ago that we decided or the PAC decided that really 294 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,680 the theme of a lot of I-35 would be music. 295 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:47,160 And so the music theme kind of going along with Denton and really not to copy what this 296 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:52,800 artist did, but maybe to get some what we call inspiration from it is go with the word. 297 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,240 If we went with a word, it would be the word music. 298 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,680 And then you could cut out different types of musical instruments instead of the bird 299 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,320 that this artist did in those letters. 300 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,320 So you know, you have a saxophone and a trumpet and a guitar, you know, just kind of going 301 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,880 along with with that cut out. 302 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,200 So that was the idea. 303 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:17,880 So it says looks like doves type of cutouts, but also all across here in the concrete in 304 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:25,480 this little plaza area are impressed for stamp concrete using those particular design features 305 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,480 for it. 306 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:34,760 Yeah, this this the first picture is actually right next to the 11th Pavilion, that one. 307 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:41,520 And then the second one is actually at Burning Man in Nevada that was at Burning Man and 308 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,680 then came straight to Arlington that September. 309 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,680 So it was it was out in the desert for that. 310 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:56,640 But just to kind of go back and give you a little bit more detail, we we had money in 311 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:06,400 a prior Bond project for the medallions down near Bucky's and Lillian Miller. 312 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,360 And because of construction issues that never occurred, there was discussion about putting 313 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:17,840 them on pedestals and the pack chose not to go in that direction. 314 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,000 And I think that following that there was a discussion about gateway signage and and 315 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,720 the pack decided that, you know, signage is not art. 316 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:33,440 So we we actually had come back and proposed Carroll Boulevard at the time and Dallas and 317 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,960 Teasley in Eagle and Elm, which the pack was interested in. 318 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,520 That was probably maybe almost two years ago at this time. 319 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:50,920 And then more recently, we discussed the improvements on I-35 and that's where we had the discussion 320 00:26:50,920 --> 00:27:00,680 about putting the medallions in stamped concrete or art music related impressions in the retaining 321 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,960 walls on I-35. 322 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:09,360 We've had a number of discussions with TechStat regarding that, in fact, one this morning 323 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:12,600 and we're working in that direction. 324 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,840 They that's going to be left, but it's going to be about three or four years before that 325 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,600 project is actually done. 326 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,080 So it'll be under construction for a while. 327 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:26,720 The money that we were going to use is bond money and we presented to the Bond Oversight 328 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:33,520 Committee about two weeks ago and they recommended that we use this that funding sooner than 329 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:38,280 later, rather than sit on it for another few years. 330 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,920 So at that point in time, we wanted to come back to you with some additional ideas to 331 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,480 use that three hundred and eleven thousand dollars. 332 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:53,480 And then for the enhancements on I-35, we did get awarded first place in the Governor's 333 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,120 Achievement Award for Keep Dentin Beautiful. 334 00:27:57,120 --> 00:28:03,800 So we're getting two hundred and ninety thousand dollars of TechStat appropriations for beautification 335 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,880 along TechStat roadways. 336 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:12,640 So we do have that and then between now and 2025, we'll find the additional funding if 337 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,300 we want to do some additional enhancements along the interstate. 338 00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:22,560 So we wanted to present to you ideas and options. 339 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:29,360 We could certainly get a subcommittee going and have these discussions a little more detail 340 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:34,640 so we can iron the locations out and what the themes would be. 341 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,840 But currently we have three hundred and eleven thousand dollars in that bond account that 342 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,560 could be used for transportation related art. 343 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:55,680 So anything along the thoroughfare is what we're looking at. 344 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:05,600 So would that be like a standard open call type of a situation or is it like this dream 345 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:10,400 sculpture that you showed us? 346 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:15,440 Would it be potentially like a purchase situation where like a sculpture already exists and 347 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:20,160 the public art committee would just decide to try to purchase something? 348 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:26,840 Well I guess if you wanted to go with the theme of, you know, a specific word, we could 349 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:36,600 put an RFP out and have artists put together different types of design, font, style, you 350 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:42,840 know, metal, whatever it would be based on their proposal and in the budget. 351 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:49,160 This artist here I think typically stands in the general same kind of size. 352 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:54,920 It's all one word like love, dream, those types of things. 353 00:29:54,920 --> 00:30:01,540 I reached out to them just to see if the word music was available, it sounds like it is. 354 00:30:01,540 --> 00:30:09,680 So we could talk to them directly or we could just put out a call for design at whatever 355 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,560 direction you wanted to go. 356 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:18,760 The other sculptures if you wanted to do on Carol, you could do the same artist in pairs 357 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:25,920 of three or you could do three different completely artists, different styles, designs. 358 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:33,600 So we could do them individually by location, we could put one out for each of Carol or 359 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,120 you could do them in groups if you'd like. 360 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,080 And you have an opportunity to tell a story too if you had them done in groups, let's 361 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:47,120 say the ones on Carol, something sequentially they'd be walking by. 362 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:57,060 I can definitely see why that dream sculpture is successful in terms of attracting people 363 00:30:57,060 --> 00:31:04,280 to go there and do photo shoots and why we would want a similar thing for Denton. 364 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:14,580 And I can also understand why the word music would be a strong choice in terms of representing 365 00:31:14,580 --> 00:31:19,720 something that is a very strong component of the arts here in Denton. 366 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:25,640 However, I think as an artist who works a lot with text and words in my own work, I 367 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,920 think the difference between the word dream and the word music is quite large in terms 368 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:39,520 of like dream could obviously inspires this idea of like forward thinking and the future 369 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:47,920 and can mean kind of like something very universal but also something like slightly different 370 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:53,080 for each person because obviously each person has their own individual dreams, right? 371 00:31:53,080 --> 00:32:00,720 And I think that the word music represents Denton but I don't necessarily think it inspires 372 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:09,860 the same sense of, I don't know, whatever that sense is that the word dream inspires, 373 00:32:09,860 --> 00:32:17,040 I don't think the word music necessarily inspires that and not everyone would be as inclined 374 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:22,360 to like relate to it in a similar way, right? 375 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:29,240 So I think I like the idea of a sculpture that becomes iconic like that but I don't 376 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:35,000 think the word music would necessarily have the same effect if that makes any sense. 377 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:42,760 So I would be inclined to have a discussion about whether or not that word is something 378 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:49,560 that we really want to focus on or if we as a committee want to choose a word or if we 379 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:59,280 want to sort of allow the artist to choose the word because I think also like as an artist 380 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:05,400 who works with words, like sometimes like the combination of the typeface of that word 381 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:11,800 dream and the doves that make it and then the light within it, they all kind of like 382 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:19,720 work together so I would be more inclined to let the artist kind of like come up with 383 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,920 the word if that makes any sense. 384 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:27,880 Or maybe have the artist provide a couple of words rather than just one that the subcommittee 385 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:34,360 could select from and I agree dream is both a noun and a verb and music is a noun there's 386 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:40,320 no action there it's just music which is great but dream has a lot more power behind it. 387 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:46,720 When everyone has dreams and maybe not everyone's dream involves music, I love this thinking 388 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:52,120 that Alicia and Ed have, would it be possible to consider a symbol then that may have more 389 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,640 complex meaning or more multiple meanings? 390 00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:00,340 Well maybe the idea where music really you know that's us trying to find dentin whereas 391 00:34:00,340 --> 00:34:04,400 that image dream is a different definition for whoever's standing in front of it. 392 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,280 It's finding that imagery that is personal to whoever's in front of it as opposed to 393 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,000 being a descriptor of a place. 394 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:17,600 Yeah the word dream really tied in perfectly with obviously what you guys just explained 395 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:23,360 but it's also American Dream City is what they branded themselves so they tied it in 396 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:29,360 with their new logo and new brand for the city so it really came together perfectly 397 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,360 for them. 398 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,140 What is Denton's logo? 399 00:34:34,140 --> 00:34:39,960 That's a flag with the word Denton. 400 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:45,780 Maybe this is our chance to uh we'll be the new branders for Denton with what I can call 401 00:34:45,780 --> 00:34:46,780 it. 402 00:34:46,780 --> 00:34:47,780 It used to be just a d. 403 00:34:47,780 --> 00:34:56,680 I love the idea of doing a call that is like a call for artists to come up with an idea 404 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:05,120 of you know of an iconic kind of a sculpture that could potentially lead to our own branding 405 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:11,760 and you know there there could be like a description of Denton's history with music and all the 406 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,720 other things that we're really proud of and then maybe yeah artist. 407 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:22,620 Does the word does the word play relate to dream in a similar way where you could play 408 00:35:22,620 --> 00:35:27,440 you know could be action, exercise, could be music? 409 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,640 It does I don't think so that people are going to want to photograph themselves in front 410 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,520 of the word play as much as they would. 411 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,520 I get that. 412 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:43,280 It's a really it will sound better it'll be really interesting um what maybe people could 413 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:48,680 come up with because when I think of Denton now that I've lived here for like 20 years 414 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:57,860 and I've become very involved um here when I think of Denton I don't think about music 415 00:35:57,860 --> 00:36:05,320 or necessarily the College of Music or you know anything that maybe people outside of 416 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:10,720 our city would think of I think about the and it just sounds so cheesy but like I really 417 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:16,080 I think about the people and I think about the people who are you know when we had the 418 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:25,720 winter storm who were busting their booties out you know risking their own health to help 419 00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:32,900 others and all of these crazy non-profits that we have here in Denton for the people 420 00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:38,160 and like just the caring and I know that that's that that might be too specific for Denton 421 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:44,440 but I mean it'd be nice for people if we do a call for them to kind of maybe have a Dentonite 422 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:51,680 or just someone who can learn more about people or you know as a community like it would be 423 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:59,440 nice to kind of have something like you know that kind of connects not just people in Denton 424 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:04,680 but people to people and like have it it's only an open call I would respond to it myself 425 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:10,200 I don't know if that's allowed but it's only uh it's only one more letter it's only one 426 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:20,920 more letter but you could have it say Denton instead of dream yep less inspiring but you 427 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,760 know just an idea many different ways we could go since Denton is kind of its own you know 428 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:31,700 the thing you see Denton brought up in so many different ways and that are unusual so 429 00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:36,680 just an idea well think of oak street has the little d what if you just had a lower 430 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:43,800 case d I don't know if there's there were some issues with like the d music symbol I 431 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,440 think there were some I don't know if the city owns that design or not I just think 432 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:56,440 but that's an idea it's really hard to inspire people and like this is what artists do right 433 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:01,840 like this is what like it's hard for us as a committee to come up with the idea that's 434 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:07,640 gonna be the thing that everyone wants to see and photographs themselves and so that 435 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:12,920 shouldn't we shouldn't try to make that our jobs we should allow artists to do that job 436 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:20,960 you know I was thinking about one of the phrases uses Denton as north of ordinary and who'd 437 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,520 want to have their picture taken in front of a big thing says ordinary it's like no 438 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:32,640 I don't think so oh you could go the original you could go odd right ODD yeah that's the 439 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,760 original Denton district and I do like the idea of using the word Denton because it is 440 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:44,480 pretty unique and kind of has a artistic or or a art connotation but maybe we could use 441 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,640 the fonts or the symbols could be kind of taken from different art even music symbols 442 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:55,040 or notes that could you know signify music or art in general doesn't have to be necessarily 443 00:38:55,040 --> 00:39:00,640 all music notes but paintbrush and other things but still spell out didn't with like a multi 444 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:08,840 you know tiered or multi use of of fonts kind of to make a large scale you know word word 445 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:16,640 then I know I'm not a designer but I mean I'm just saying maybe the word didn't does 446 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:21,800 kind of stick and it is you know I mean you can't really go wrong by using the term it 447 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:32,000 the actual term itself or what you're trying to just to the signal it's a good idea we 448 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:41,960 could have a giant Scrabble board I'll tell you what is what I'll do is I'll throw together 449 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:47,400 a few things and see if we can get a subcommittee that together for these I think we only had 450 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:53,840 some suggested subcommittees in the past Gary I think that's that's really what we have 451 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:59,840 we didn't have anybody specifically that were had signed up for the Carroll Street let's 452 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:06,040 say or this other particular art piece here so I think we need to get some subcommittees 453 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:15,080 going for those we want to maybe put a subcommittee together for the for a couple pieces kind 454 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:22,040 of make it easy for everybody so not everyone's jumping back and forth between different subcommittees 455 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:33,160 so maybe take this this this $300,000 whether it's Carol the the word art and just pick 456 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:44,200 out a scope and a budget for each one of those with one subcommittee so we're talking about 457 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:50,280 a couple different projects though right like there's the there's the funding for the highway 458 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:56,360 thing and then there's also the Carroll Boulevard so there's the roundabout the Carroll Boulevard 459 00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:01,200 and the Teasley Dallas are those the locations or is there a potential other location as 460 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,960 well well we could we could come up with with any location you that you could think of there 461 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:14,480 the dream the dream the music word we were thinking of maybe you know just kind of throwing 462 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,640 out an idea to get things started was right there at Dallas and Dell up on the the hill 463 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:25,760 on the railroad tracks where it gave it even a little bit more height and there was some 464 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:34,800 space there but it could we could really come up with ideas anywhere I can show that particular 465 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:44,920 one here let's see if I can share my screen again I just happened to pull that in case 466 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:56,320 we needed it so this is the Bell and Eagle here and so the railroad tracks here there's 467 00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:04,720 a hill that runs from the street there's no sidewalk but it does run along this particular 468 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:13,320 direction here so if you go north of those trees there's a long it kind of starts tapering 469 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,680 down all the way over to Robertson that might not be the best location but that was just 470 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:24,720 something that we had thought about it's definitely a drive-by rather than foot traffic because 471 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:31,200 there's no walkway no path along that way yeah and we talked about that too we could 472 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:37,080 definitely build one if that was a location that was picked so don't discourage you like 473 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:43,280 an over footpath is that what you're saying yes we could do a winding footpath up to it 474 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,320 and then coming back because it would have to be winding to make it ADA accessible to 475 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:54,080 meet all those right those those degrees on the slants yeah someone who has like ridden 476 00:42:54,080 --> 00:43:00,600 my bike down Eagle and then made that turn onto Dallas Drive that is definitely not very 477 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:07,280 pedestrian friendly so this is a great opportunity to make that area more interesting well and 478 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,880 obviously whatever we choose is going to be amazing and people are going to want to take 479 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:18,520 pictures in front of it so we don't want anyone to yeah where would they park too I wonder 480 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:26,720 if they were to know it's we'll drive fast people are yeah that location is problematic 481 00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:32,880 for parking and just people running in front of cars and people not paying attention it's 482 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:40,360 not a very pretty location honestly we're gonna beautify it but there's still a pawn 483 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:46,600 shop and a vape shop and like a bunch of closed stuff down there you know it's it's not where 484 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:52,240 you would dream or achieve or inspire or love or whatever word you put that's not the place 485 00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:57,240 I would think of as the first place to stop my car and walk over and take my picture in 486 00:43:57,240 --> 00:44:05,840 front of that with the pawn shop in the back you know we'll look at a few other possible 487 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:12,120 locations that throughout the city I do like the idea though of the potential for putting 488 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:17,360 something there that changes that area and makes it more desirable and makes people love 489 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:23,280 it and put more care in I agree I think it can be done for sure and if it's not this 490 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:28,760 piece maybe it's a different art piece that could go there you know next time you drive 491 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:33,920 by it if you look at it it really kind of comes from from the ground level from Robertson 492 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,640 and it goes all the way up to those trees so you could almost put something that kind 493 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:45,920 of follows that terrain and put lights on it you know like dominoes but not not specific 494 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:52,040 that's probably a bad example but something that that could create some depth especially 495 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:58,520 at night time could be kind of neat this might be a question for you later Gary or I don't 496 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:03,960 know who I would ask but but in terms of like when subcommittees or whatever are formed 497 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:10,240 for these projects like if me as an artist if I'm like oh this is something that I might 498 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:18,440 want to apply for would I just recuse myself from participating in that yeah yes that would 499 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:32,160 be the best the best choice okay do we have any other questions John do we need to ask 500 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:39,640 for nominations or for the subcommittee so yes I think what we've identified is we really 501 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:46,120 have kind of two subcommittees may be here or it depends on what the committee wants 502 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:52,040 to do but definitely it would probably be best just for everybody's time to make sure 503 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:59,600 that one subcommittee does carol drive at least and then another could be looking at 504 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:11,120 the other locations the roundabout and the the eagle in and Dallas Drive type of one 505 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:16,520 at the same time even though the eagle and Dallas Drive one hasn't sold wait not the 506 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:26,360 eagle and Dallas Drive they went over it that what is that Teasley and and Bell yeah or 507 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:31,480 Teasley and Dallas Drive I'm getting all confused as Dallas and Teasley hit it Dallas and Teasley 508 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:37,240 okay yeah all right so Dallas and Teasley and those as that's the possibility and then 509 00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:45,400 continue looking for something for the single word one as a kind of key sculpture in those 510 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:50,200 because I think that you can definitely get some really good bang for your buck moving 511 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:57,000 along carol boulevard and so even having a single artist be able to do a call for a single 512 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:03,480 artist to do those or in the scope is tell a story with three different pieces of art 513 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:08,120 because literally if somebody's going along that trail they're going to see all three 514 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:14,600 of those out on that particular trail so it'll be nice and then one of those actually has 515 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:20,440 a little shade in the rest structure that's there that the little doghouse that we had 516 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:25,360 in the picture and that could be right there for something that takes a little bit more 517 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:31,880 viewing side of it so it depends on what that subcommittee would like to be able to see 518 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:36,360 so I think that's definitely one that would be a really good subcommittee one and then 519 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:41,560 maybe a second subcommittee to be able to do the other two areas and then we'll take 520 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:49,800 a look at the single word one as uh as another example or it will form that one the single 521 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:57,660 word one I would expect would have to have more funding for it because thou just to scope 522 00:47:57,660 --> 00:48:02,040 is going to require a lot more money than something a little bit smaller that would 523 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:10,800 fit on carol boulevard let's say 524 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:18,920 so right now the uh fire station is the law firm of franklin lin and steel and then the 525 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:24,160 tennis center is the law firm of franklin nick nick nicholson and steel 526 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:32,580 sounds like two dentin law firms there for you there you go subcommittees now should 527 00:48:32,580 --> 00:48:38,480 should we should we volunteer yeah that'd be great this would be a great time I would 528 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:44,280 volunteer for the carol boulevard I live right here there 529 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,000 okay so the carol boulevard we have alisha 530 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:51,840 um I'd like I could I'd like to do carol 531 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,460 okay thanks Meredith 532 00:48:54,460 --> 00:48:58,880 I'd like to are we volunteering for the word one also or is that later 533 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,600 uh later we'll get to that one 534 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,200 I volunteer for the carol boulevard one as well 535 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,520 okay thanks Adam 536 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:16,080 okay we've got three people for the carol boulevard and now we need a group for the 537 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:31,040 roundabout and the uh gallison teasley 538 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,440 I would do that one as well 539 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:38,520 okay I'll volunteer for gallison teasley 540 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:48,760 thanks Adam do we have another 541 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,760 Meredith 542 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,760 you're willing to 543 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,360 I'm going to be moving soon if you need someone you can put me down for now but I probably 544 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:05,520 wouldn't be available at the conclusion of the project so 545 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:10,280 uh I'm actually going to be moving abroad but not till next calendar year 546 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,480 okay oh wow 547 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,200 yeah congratulations thank you I'm retiring 548 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:25,320 wow I'm so jealous but not yet I still have one last I have almost a year left to go 549 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:29,280 well it sounds like you'd still be here for the selection process side of it so we'll 550 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,280 put you down for that 551 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,800 yeah I'm just selling my house now because the market is good so I'm going to be around 552 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:34,800 till next March 553 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,880 because when we get to construction we're going to need a cut out of you that we can 554 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,640 kind of put up close to it 555 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:42,640 there you go 556 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,720 you'll be there in spirit just like that 557 00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:48,440 I will well yeah 558 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:54,800 okay now now we have the word I'm just going to call it the name of the project is the 559 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:55,800 word 560 00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:02,000 so who would like to do that I think Alicia you've already bowed out of that one 561 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,520 I'd like to be a part of that one 562 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:05,520 oh Adam okay thank you 563 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,520 I'll do that one 564 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:09,520 oh so Mane 565 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:15,320 Meredith has two or three 566 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:20,720 has two or three are you trying to make a larger statement Meredith you really want 567 00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:21,720 to do that one 568 00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:25,400 you're monopolizing that with my taste and vision 569 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:32,240 no I'm not but yeah I'd like I'm super interested in that one 570 00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:35,680 I can bow out of another one but that's my first choice 571 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:40,720 all right then that that's our projects and let me read that back so Carroll Boulevard 572 00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:45,200 we have Alicia, Meredith, and Adam 573 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:50,440 and then for the roundabout in Dallas and Heazel we have Alicia, Ed, and Michelle and 574 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,880 for the word we have Adam, Mane, and Meredith 575 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,360 did I get that right 576 00:51:55,360 --> 00:52:01,840 great 577 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,960 I think that's the end of that topic Mane 578 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,760 item E receive report and hold discussion and give staff input on the request of the 579 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:15,480 City Council develop a work session on the creation of the public-private partnership 580 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,480 from the funding of the interactive fountain at Razor Ranch Park 581 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:31,180 okay let me work to get that one up on the screen 582 00:52:31,180 --> 00:52:41,320 slipping back and forth sometimes can get a little bit bad 583 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:50,320 okay this looks a little weird to me what does that look 584 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,320 cutting off 585 00:52:51,320 --> 00:53:03,080 is it cutting off all right let me stop share and I'm gonna have to do something a little 586 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,080 different 587 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:17,460 let me try that again 588 00:53:17,460 --> 00:53:18,460 much better 589 00:53:18,460 --> 00:53:25,760 okay sometimes those powerpoint presentations fight each other 590 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:33,280 okay during one of our council meetings we had a request from council member Davis 591 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:39,960 and what he was proposing and this is like these one-minute type of proposals they do 592 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,880 to be able to take a look at something a little bit different than they normally do and so 593 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:50,560 one of those actually the start of one of those was the DWIF monument which was proposed 594 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:56,400 by a council member council member Metzler now mayor pretend that's there and so now 595 00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:02,920 we have one that's been proposed by council member Davis and so they would like to get 596 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:10,600 some kind of response back from the public art committee so that we would need to form 597 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:15,680 a subcommittee to take a look at this and to review the development of some type of 598 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:20,800 public private partnership for the future of the project and then form a subcommittee 599 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:26,840 it can be the same one to review possible designs construction costs and any ongoing 600 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:31,360 maintenance costs that are involved so they're really looking at some kind of a feasibility 601 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:38,720 study to be able to do some type of signature art piece that's also an interactive fountain 602 00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:44,920 and so if you're asking and wondering what that might look like here's the rotary fountain 603 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:52,200 at riverfront park in spokane washington and so during the day you can see that it performs 604 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:58,720 just like a spray ground or spray park for people in the community and so there's businesses 605 00:54:58,720 --> 00:55:03,800 and other things around and you can see a lot of fun activities that are going in this 606 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:09,280 particular area in the park and they've got water sprays the kids run through and different 607 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:15,120 things during that time and then at night time when it's closed for the people to run 608 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:22,600 through it it becomes a very decorative very nicely lit fountain in the evening time and 609 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:29,480 so it provides a couple of different things it provides really a nice art view and it 610 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:36,360 provides activities in the community and it has proven to be a very significant draw of 611 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:45,360 people to the park to to get greater visitation and also to the area downtown where the park 612 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:50,240 is for people to enjoy the businesses and the restaurants and various things in the 613 00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:57,120 community which is why they proposed this original thing and so at spokane the rotary 614 00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:05,360 club took the lead in being able to raise funds for this particular project now originally 615 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:10,840 uh they had estimated a cost of around a million dollars to be able to do this particular fountain 616 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:16,000 that's just giving you an idea of how the budgets would work and that actually grew 617 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:24,320 to 1.2 million after they ran into a few technical difficulties with it uh and the fountain was 618 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:29,200 built and commissioned at that particular time some things that make people may not 619 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:36,000 know about these this is not potable water something like out of the the city's water 620 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:41,760 system and you'll see many fountains that just use that and most of the time that water 621 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:47,600 has gone to just waste but anytime you throw people into the mix where that needs to be 622 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:52,880 in direct contact with people like a swimming pool it falls under the state's health codes 623 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:58,920 and so it needs to be uh run exactly like any spray ground does and so the spray ground 624 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:04,960 at carlion park that type of an arrangement for it now just the spray ground over there 625 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:09,440 i think gary what was the budget for that because i wasn't here during that it was it 626 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,720 was four hundred thousand dollars john okay four hundred thousand dollars and since then 627 00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:21,900 we put the bath the bathrooms in right yes so how much was the 150 000 and so to be able 628 00:57:21,900 --> 00:57:26,640 to operate this normally in the state of texas you'd have to have restrooms that are close 629 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:33,520 by you'd have to have some form of showers for it and literally underground here you 630 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:38,160 have this large basin of water so think of an underground swimming pool that nobody gets 631 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:44,320 in because that water is pumped out of that underground pool into these sprays and then 632 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:49,920 when it comes back down it's filtered it's chemically treated and in the state of texas 633 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:56,080 we would have a secondary disinfection system probably ultraviolet light which is what we 634 00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:00,280 have been using in all the other swimming pools and so that will tend to drive up the 635 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:06,240 cost of some of these for it so you're really you're buying a swimming pool that you're 636 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:12,080 erecting a piece of art above it now the rotary fountain that you see here isn't the only 637 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:17,680 one that's out there uh that's used in this particular way but it was the only one that 638 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:25,040 i could find in a few weeks time that had a public private type of an arrangement for 639 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:33,120 it where you had a group like the rotaries do that we of course have our parks foundation 640 00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:38,760 and um and brooke more would want to take a look at this we've talked to her briefly 641 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:45,320 about this that kind of involvement but we really haven't had that kind of fundraising 642 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:52,240 for a single piece for that amount of money that i could find for denton and so that would 643 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:58,640 be one of the challenges i think is to be able to identify enough partners that really 644 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:05,120 want to be able to do this uh and council member davis his proposal was to do this over 645 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:11,120 at razor ranch as a featured item to be able to bring more people to that park area and 646 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:20,160 of course all the businesses and various agencies around razor ranch park or for it so that's 647 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:26,000 what we have uh you can find variations of this type of sculpture in many other places 648 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:31,920 this one is really just a water sculpture and so what you actually see in both of those 649 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:37,960 pictures is exactly the same kind of sprays that it does it doesn't really vary that much 650 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:46,480 you can go to places like in branson missouri and they use music flames lights and water 651 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:52,280 sprays all moving computerized to move and tell stories and various things you can literally 652 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:57,960 go online and and look at the schedule of music that they're going to play at any particular 653 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:03,200 time of day to go watch a performance of this particular fountain now it's not one that 654 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:10,280 is available for kids to get into fire and kids don't usually mix but that's another 655 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:16,120 example of something very extreme but and that's a couple million dollars to about five 656 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:21,480 million dollars to do and the only other one now that is local in the state that we've 657 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:27,680 been able to discover is that 10 million dollar fountain that is going to go in at clide warn 658 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:35,560 park in dallas has anyone heard of that one so far okay and that one will be one that 659 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:41,520 um it's enough sprays and things it's not directly meant for for kids but it will be 660 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:47,880 one that is going to be uh coordinated with music and sprays and doing those things with 661 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:58,000 it so with that we'll go ahead and open it up for questions there's a nice little one 662 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:04,400 in oklahoma city right downtown there's a waterfall park that looks like a water feature 663 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:12,360 you might want to look at that one okay we'll do 664 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:18,280 and one of our park planners jason donnell he has come up with quite a list of different 665 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:24,960 ones that are around but each one of them has been built with grant monies uh with but 666 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:31,520 not this public-private type partnership piece to it so we're really having a hard time melding 667 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:36,040 those together to give the committee something to work with i mean you have to have some 668 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:44,320 data to be able to look at to see if that's going to be feasible i love the idea of um 669 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:51,120 you know if we can get the funding to make this water feature happen um the idea of this 670 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:56,040 temporary public art programs that we've talked about putting into place like one potential 671 01:01:56,040 --> 01:02:03,680 avenue we could explore is um like if there is um a way that we could sink the water with 672 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:12,960 music or um even like projection onto the water um we would do sort of like an annual 673 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:19,240 open call for that sort of a temporary project where a musician or a projection artist would 674 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:27,640 get to use the water feature for their work i've seen them uh artists do laser projections 675 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:34,040 onto mist and so they'll create a light sculpture that particular way there's a swimming pool 676 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:40,680 in schomburg illinois where at the end of the slide they have a ring formed and that 677 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:46,880 ring has sprays that come out and they shoot a laser against it and so you'll have uh pretty 678 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,720 stars and various things but the kids really like the one where they get down there and 679 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:57,720 the shark opens its mouth just as they go through the ring uh so that that's it's art and but 680 01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:03,200 it's something that can be updated and and done so you'll think of it as what's temporary 681 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:07,520 type of art and that could be used in that particular way but i haven't seen it done 682 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:12,200 in like a city park right now there's someplace there's someplace i saw that was actually 683 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:17,120 interactive where they had the um the mist screen with a projector and they had a basically 684 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:21,240 a touch screen that you can draw your own imagery and it would show up on the mist so 685 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:26,760 it became an interactive display as well and really the the idea behind this is they wanted 686 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:32,520 a water feature at razor ranch and so uh at like the new ranger stadium there's a water 687 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:37,120 feature as you walk in and what it is it's just a really large concrete pad and it has 688 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:41,520 water jets that come out of it and of course nolan ryan's at the front of it his statue 689 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:45,600 is so like what alicia said if you wanted to do something to work you'd switch that 690 01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:51,400 art out we could always put an art pedestal in the middle that could obviously get wet 691 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:56,160 and have the you know the the pedestal be there and then the the water shoot around 692 01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:01,280 it and then with all the technology that we have today that you could program the lights 693 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:07,040 in the jet and then it could all the and this is what the ranger stadium does also is the 694 01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:12,000 lights are in the jet and then it programmed it's programmable to the music that's playing 695 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,640 you know on the outside of the stadium so that music's dancing up and down the lights 696 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,440 are coming different colors and of course you have nolan ryan standing in the middle 697 01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:24,680 of it so uh we could obviously do something like that because really in the end they wanted 698 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:30,080 a water feature there so how could we incorporate art into that water feature and not turn it 699 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:34,720 into you know a five million dollar piece to where we could turn it into a really nice 700 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:39,160 splash pad that would probably be around the five six hundred thousand dollar mark and then 701 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,800 obviously we have the art pedestal like alicia you know we could and then we could switch 702 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:47,320 that art out and so i really like that idea and how we can incorporate what others have 703 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:52,520 done and then add that that really that really a splash pad so it'd be a splash pad with 704 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:57,200 art so yeah and i don't think the art has to be on a pedestal like yeah it wouldn't 705 01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:03,280 have to be but yeah you know yeah yeah because nolan i think he stands on something about 706 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:12,680 six inches tall so um my my question um to alicia's idea was having um you know these 707 01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:20,500 temporary art projects and bringing in kind of uh more contemporary i guess like new media 708 01:05:20,500 --> 01:05:25,880 artists or light music artists that could use that as kind of like their canvas and 709 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:32,040 maybe have uh you know performance nights i don't know whatever but um is that something 710 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:36,600 that just kind of all of these fountains are capable of doing at this point or do we is 711 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:43,280 that kind of a specification that we need to look for going forward you'd have to specify 712 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:50,160 those okay i think that would we would i would personally want to look into that going forward 713 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:56,960 just to keep our options but council member davis was in his vision that he showed especially 714 01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:03,560 with the spokane um that riverfront one was very significant piece that's a very signature 715 01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:10,120 piece he was looking at and something a little more permanent of what it was and so i think 716 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:15,760 what he's asking for is you know kind of this feasibility study of taking a look at is that 717 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:21,920 something we could do in net and do we have uh available partners that may want to align 718 01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:30,360 to help be able to fund that and then to how do we then create um something moving forward 719 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:35,560 such as how much is that going to cost to operate and what would be the the maintenance 720 01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:41,080 type of issues that could show up that would have to be funded by the city in the future 721 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:46,880 for it um ideally if you raise a plenty of money to be able to build it that you suck 722 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:53,840 some of that away uh as um kind of an endowment to be able to take care of it um similar to 723 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:59,720 how like universities will do many of those things but we are not there at that this particular 724 01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:05,040 point and so i think what they're asking is that we need to just is this feasible this 725 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:11,680 is something that um the public art committee can get behind to be able to support uh and 726 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:15,640 so i think we see a subcommittee to take a look at those those two items there that we 727 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:22,600 had to be able to explore and we can obviously put together what his initial idea was you 728 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:27,560 know council member davis's idea and now what what our idea or what you know the pack's 729 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:32,520 idea is today and say this is what your you know initial thing is this is what it's going 730 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:36,920 to cost this is what the you know the the pack is put together and then this is what 731 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:41,600 it's going to cost that way we can show those two variables and and really tell that story 732 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:47,680 on kind of what now what now what you your idea is to have here so and what i think alicia 733 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:52,600 was saying having something a little smaller or something that but you don't if you build 734 01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:59,160 the fountain pieces that are not to be played in it changes the whole nature of the supporting 735 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:03,440 things for it but if you build it for to be played in that's where it gets a bit more 736 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:19,360 expensive to operate that's great i like it we have any volunteers for that subcommittee 737 01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:26,120 i would do it okay alicia thank you i would say i mean i would do it does anyone there 738 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:31,920 does he want to okay i don't i'm just really excited maybe it's just like coming like i'm 739 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:37,160 just really excited about all these things yeah i like the word interactive so i'll be 740 01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:44,200 involved in it i love the interaction so adam okay you want to think about a potential partner 741 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:50,960 could be more on the technology side like you know to think about a partner who could 742 01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:57,880 bring a level of technology to this fountain that would allow us to make it like a tool 743 01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:05,760 that different artists could utilize to bring different projects into existence right so 744 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:13,880 right now i have alicia meredith and adam as the uh subcommittee for that so we all 745 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:22,280 good okay and and john just to give i like to be optimistic we did have one project where 746 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:27,160 we did raise quite a bit of money and that was uh eureka 2 and it was just a little over 747 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:32,680 a million dollars and so it wasn't just that wasn't what you per se a pra a public private 748 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:37,960 partnership that was really going out and raising money for for that playground so we 749 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:42,640 could definitely i just wanted to shine some light and show that we we can raise that kind 750 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:49,040 of money we just have to to get busy so i think a key like what drew just said if it's 751 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:54,680 public private who in that immediate area so if a location such as council member davis 752 01:09:54,680 --> 01:10:02,760 located at at razor ranch who has uh interest in their whose businesses are around that 753 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:07,080 would benefit from having this is like where does the money come from for clied warden 754 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:13,760 park it came from everything around it and so this is the same thing is that's the starting 755 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:19,920 point is who's close by who has an interest in in that and so that's where that the first 756 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:28,840 steps would happen and the 10 million that they're doing for the fountain decline where 757 01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:38,920 it came from a single donor any single donors any single donors right now on the pack that 758 01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:44,680 would like to be able to step forward and do that two million maybe two and a half million 759 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:53,680 would really work i think i have so much time to down to donate i'll just do anything anymore 760 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:57,720 looking for a couple million dollars i'll take one 761 01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:10,120 i'll give you a deal okay thank you everybody in item f is received report and hold discussion 762 01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:16,280 regarding the public art committee annual 2021 meeting schedule 763 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:33,800 let's see i don't have that eddie do you have that schedule you can throw it for us 764 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,680 i see gary's lips moving but i don't hear anything i don't know if he's talking to us 765 01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:45,080 or not yeah i was talking to myself sorry about that it was a good conversation um awesome 766 01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:52,040 so council recently had a discussion about starting to move forward with in-person meetings 767 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:59,240 so we're working towards that for next month so uh if eddie could bring up the schedule 768 01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:08,320 for the group wanted to see if there was discussion on when you wanted to meet in person if if 769 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:14,440 some people are still concerned about meeting in person we can set it up so you can kind 770 01:12:14,440 --> 01:12:22,460 of virtual into the live meeting as kind of a transition so if if you do have some concerns 771 01:12:22,460 --> 01:12:27,800 you feel free to reach out to us and let us know we can plan for that but wanted to start 772 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:36,080 the discussion with the group in regards to um if you want to stay the same day on fridays 773 01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:40,200 uh or if you want to go back to thursdays you know i think before the pandemic you were 774 01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:45,360 thursdays at four um i think some people's schedules and work schedules have changed 775 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:51,920 a little bit and uh so i don't know if that's still conducive for the group but wanted to 776 01:12:51,920 --> 01:13:01,080 have a discussion with when you uh wanted you wanted when you wanted to meet and eddie 777 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:09,600 we see your packed meeting schedule we don't see the calendar i think that when we talked 778 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:16,840 about it last month um we all kind of thought maybe maybe if i'm i don't know if i'm wrong 779 01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:24,520 or not um maybe thursdays because yeah you're right on fridays maybe yeah thursday at four 780 01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:30,800 is what was discussed i think this meeting was made friday for scheduling reasons unknown 781 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:37,200 yes sir yeah that was it so yeah thursday at four was when um okay i think the majority 782 01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:43,920 of us said was the best time is but that was when we were talking virtual that we have 783 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:48,920 that's what eddie suggested that when we went back to her in-person meetings to go back 784 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:54,720 to the normal schedule now i'll still be doing virtual i don't have a problem saying that 785 01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:59,760 um so you'll have to find a way to have a virtual ed there because i will not be meeting 786 01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:07,800 you in person okay and then they talk about having those you know both so yeah i will 787 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:20,600 need to do virtual through the summer so is everyone else i'm fine with in person okay 788 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:27,400 but everyone else good is good with the thursday at four again just at four works yes i see 789 01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:36,320 me virtual as well okay not that i don't like everyone i do but it's still a pandemic 790 01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:45,840 hasn't changed i don't know if we'll be ubering any food to you guys though that's cool just 791 01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:51,780 send some uh dogecoin over we'll order it ourselves we'll promise to have virtual food 792 01:14:51,780 --> 01:14:59,440 virtual food yeah perfect there you go it's a buffet all you can eat so that was that 793 01:14:59,440 --> 01:15:06,120 a voting item i think it would be good to have a voting item okay um yeah or at least 794 01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:14,920 at least you know just a show of hands everyone's okay to suggest that we meet hybrid uh thursdays 795 01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,120 at four p.m moving forward and i'll second 796 01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:29,400 i before you vote is it back to the first thursday of the month 797 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:37,200 starting in june yes so that's that's uh you know in two weeks two weeks do you still 798 01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:43,440 want to have it or do you want to maybe focus on the subcommittees for the next month and 799 01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:53,680 start and it i guess so july would be the first is is that okay for the first with everybody 800 01:15:53,680 --> 01:16:02,800 for a whole from the holiday standpoint yes yes yes okay so eddie let's let's start there 801 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:09,400 we'll just cancel the june meeting and then we'll we'll focus everyone's time and efforts 802 01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:15,320 on the subcommittees for for the next five six weeks we need to vote for uh counseling 803 01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:21,980 the june meeting okay so i move that we cancel the june meeting and that we move forward 804 01:16:21,980 --> 01:16:29,000 meeting the first thursday every month at 4 p.m starting in july and i'll second 805 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:44,320 aye yes yes yes yes aye aye 806 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:52,760 and um gary or john gary i guess would you um be able to send us oh i guess i guess it'll 807 01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:59,760 be in the minutes but i guess the any information that we'll need moving forward with the subcommittees 808 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:05,560 and stuff we'll work on a report and give her a summary of of what what group they're 809 01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:12,840 in and then um what the topic is and maybe some bullet points with each one okay and 810 01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:21,680 then send emails to those groups try to find some some dates and times awesome thank you 811 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:36,000 the tennis center those that are signed the tennis center will also get that too yes any 812 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:46,920 concluding items weren't we going to start discussing the tempering of the art but path 813 01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:52,520 forward what was that that wasn't on the agenda for today but i guess we could continue trying 814 01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:57,880 to add it to the future yeah we the the reason why we held off is because we didn't know 815 01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:03,880 how you wanted to handle all this moving forward so we're trying to get everything into production 816 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:09,840 and now we just added a few more items for discussion so um if if that's something that 817 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:16,180 you would rather move forward pro instead of some of these um we just need to figure 818 01:18:16,180 --> 01:18:23,080 out what the budget is i guess the thing is that there will always be something right 819 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:29,160 there will always be projects that we can have going on so at a certain point we'll 820 01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:36,760 just make time with an idea be to have some of the temporary art be it you know the dallas 821 01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:43,480 and teasley and eagle or not eagle now but carol that that could be an option also with 822 01:18:43,480 --> 01:18:48,920 the subcommittees yeah i think i think that's a great idea i also think you know we don't 823 01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,720 necessarily have to do this right now but i think at a certain point it'd be nice to 824 01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:59,200 have a subcommittee just for brainstorming about temporary art projects um because i 825 01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:04,440 think they don't always have to be like sculptural in nature they could be you know performance 826 01:19:04,440 --> 01:19:10,400 based or sound based or we could think about other forms so they wouldn't necessarily have 827 01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:26,160 like a a physical form that has to be like installed at the install okay 828 01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:41,720 anything else i guess i'll just add one more thing but maybe since that is kind of like 829 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:47,840 the familiar form of public art right now maybe it would be a good idea to start there 830 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:55,240 like um if the first kind of temporary art project we did it was like a sculptural one 831 01:19:55,240 --> 01:20:00,120 but then we sort of transitioned to other art forms after that but we use just sculptural 832 01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:06,160 like a thing along carol or at teesley or wherever um as a way of working out some of 833 01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:13,740 the details in terms of how the funding or the contracting and the that kind of um those 834 01:20:13,740 --> 01:20:23,680 kinds of details would work we we can put on the agenda so we can make sure that we're 835 01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:35,600 following meeting rules for discussion 836 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:41,920 anything else we can close the meeting at 5 23 thanks everybody