1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,680 Thank you. Good morning and 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:11,840 welcome to this meeting of the 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:12,840 mobility committee of the city 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,440 of Denton. Seeing that we have 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,440 a quorum, we have a sort of a 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,840 mini quorum. We have two 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,840 council members and a vacancy 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,840 yet to be filled, but we are 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,840 prepared to move forward. At 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,840 this time, we will call for a 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:31,840 motion. With our items for 12 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:32,840 individual considerations, 13 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:33,840 starting with item A, consider 14 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:34,840 approval of the minutes of 15 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:35,840 April 21st, 2021. I will 16 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:36,840 entertain a motion. I move 17 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,840 approval of the minutes. I 18 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,840 heartily second. All in favor, 19 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,840 say aye. Aye. The minutes are 20 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,840 approved. Item B, we will open 21 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,840 now, receive a report and hold 22 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,840 a discussion regarding updates 23 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:52,840 from the Denton County 24 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,840 Transportation Authority. Good 25 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:58,840 morning. Can everyone hear me? 26 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,840 Yes. Okay. Excellent. Well, 27 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:02,840 first, I want to thank you all 28 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,840 for having me this morning, but 29 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:05,840 second, I just want to 30 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:06,840 apologize that we were unable 31 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,840 to attend last month. We had a 32 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:09,840 board meeting conflict and the 33 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,840 board meeting ran long. We do 34 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:13,840 apologize for not being able to 35 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,840 attend. Thank you for allowing 36 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,840 us to present this information 37 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,840 today. I have a very long 38 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:21,840 presentation and in full 39 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,840 transparency, we have been in 40 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,840 the throes of public 41 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:26,840 involvement the last three 42 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,840 weeks and we have since revised 43 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,840 the presentation and cut it in 44 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,840 half. We're presenting the long 45 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:35,840 one to you, but just so that 46 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:36,840 you know, in all of our public 47 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:37,840 involvement, we're actually 48 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:38,840 presenting a shorter, more 49 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,840 concise version, but there's 50 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:42,840 still merit in the long version 51 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,840 today. I do want to share that 52 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,840 with you. Again, this proposed 53 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:48,840 service is a board led 54 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,840 initiative that staff has been 55 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,840 executing. As you know, the 56 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,840 travel patterns around the 57 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,840 world are really changing. This 58 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,840 is the DCTA board's kind of 59 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,840 method of addressing that 60 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,840 response to change and looking 61 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:06,840 at different ways to provide 62 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,840 transit service, but that's why 63 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:09,840 we're in the public involvement 64 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,840 period. We're here to collect 65 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:12,840 as much feedback as possible. 66 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,840 As I mentioned before, our staff 67 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:15,840 is all throughout our member 68 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,840 cities as well as the county 69 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:18,840 collecting feedback, doing 70 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,840 presentations. So, again, we 71 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,840 are open for anybody listening. 72 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:23,840 I just want to make it very 73 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,840 clear that this is the time to 74 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:26,840 provide your feedback if you 75 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:27,840 have any. I mean, that is our 76 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,840 responsibility, and so we are 77 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,840 open and welcome to all 78 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,840 feedback. So, I believe I have 79 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:53,840 enough time to do a presentation. 80 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,840 >> I believe it, too. 81 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,840 >> Nicole, are you wanting us to 82 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:58,840 pull up your presentation and 83 00:02:58,840 --> 00:02:59,840 run it for you? 84 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:00,840 >> Yes, please. That would be 85 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:01,840 great. 86 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:02,840 >> Okay. Wait just one minute 87 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:03,840 and let us get to it. 88 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:10,840 >> Okay. 89 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:11,840 >> Are you sure you want all 90 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:12,840 our feedback? You're going to 91 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:13,840 get a lot today. 92 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:18,840 >> That's okay. I'm prepared. 93 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,840 We spend all day every day 94 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,840 answering questions and 95 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,840 collecting feedback, and we are 96 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:53,840 open to it all. 97 00:03:54,000 --> 00:04:17,840 >> Okay. 98 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:18,840 >> Rebecca, I'm happy to pull it 99 00:04:18,840 --> 00:04:22,840 up on my end, if that's easier. 100 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,840 I have the modified version. 101 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:26,840 >> Nicole, I think that would be 102 00:04:26,840 --> 00:04:27,840 fabulous. 103 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:29,840 >> Can I go through the 104 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:30,840 modified version, which is just 105 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:32,840 a condensed version of what was 106 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:33,840 in the packet? 107 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:35,840 >> My experience with 108 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:37,840 PowerPoint is that it mostly 109 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:39,840 serves to remind the speaker 110 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:41,840 what you intended to say. So, 111 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:43,840 my opinion is if it works for 112 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:45,840 you, we'll just listen to you. 113 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:46,840 >> Okay. Perfect. 114 00:04:46,840 --> 00:04:48,840 >> I have it pulled up if you 115 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:49,840 want me to share. 116 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:51,840 >> I think if I could do the 117 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,840 -- if I could share this 118 00:04:54,840 --> 00:04:56,840 condensed version, I am sure 119 00:04:56,840 --> 00:04:58,840 that the attendees today would 120 00:04:58,840 --> 00:04:59,840 appreciate that. 121 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:02,840 >> And, you know, maybe at a 122 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:05,840 later point, I'm wondering if 123 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:06,840 there's some way that -- if you 124 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:08,840 want the longer version to kind 125 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:09,840 of be added into like a public 126 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:11,840 record so that people can look 127 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:12,840 at it, is there a way to do 128 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:13,840 that? 129 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:15,840 >> It should be in your packet. 130 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:16,840 The link in the agenda -- 131 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:17,840 >> It is, yes. 132 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:20,840 >> Okay. Great. 133 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,840 >> Okay. So, can everybody see 134 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:23,840 this? 135 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:24,840 >> You can see the agenda. 136 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:25,840 You can link to it. 137 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:28,840 >> All right. 138 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:31,840 Can everyone see this? 139 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:32,840 You can. 140 00:05:32,840 --> 00:05:33,840 Okay. Perfect. 141 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:34,840 Okay. 142 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:35,840 >> Yeah. 143 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:37,840 >> So, I'm just going to kind 144 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:38,840 of give you a high-level 145 00:05:38,840 --> 00:05:39,840 overview of GoZone. 146 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:40,840 I recognize that the 147 00:05:40,840 --> 00:05:41,840 conversation is a little bit 148 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:42,840 more important, the direct 149 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:44,840 questions are, and so, I mean, 150 00:05:44,840 --> 00:05:45,840 obviously, I'll be here to 151 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:46,840 kind of answer any of those 152 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:47,840 questions that you have. 153 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:49,840 But a little bit about GoZone. 154 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,840 So, it is a zone-based on-demand 155 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:53,840 service that uses an app for 156 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:54,840 booking. 157 00:05:54,840 --> 00:05:56,840 So, it operates much like an 158 00:05:56,840 --> 00:05:57,840 Uber or a Lyft. 159 00:05:57,840 --> 00:06:00,840 But the difference is, is that 160 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:02,840 it is solely for the use of the 161 00:06:02,840 --> 00:06:04,840 participants within a zone. 162 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:06,840 So, whereas an Uber and a Lyft, 163 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:07,840 you could, you know, use it 164 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:08,840 anywhere. 165 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:10,840 These vehicles, these drivers in 166 00:06:10,840 --> 00:06:12,840 this app is specifically for 167 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:14,840 use within a designated zone. 168 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:16,840 As the DCT board has proposed, 169 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:18,840 it is replacing the majority of 170 00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:19,840 fixed route service and 171 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:20,840 we'll talk about that in a 172 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:22,840 little bit later in a bit more 173 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:23,840 depth. 174 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:24,840 But I did want to mention that 175 00:06:24,840 --> 00:06:26,840 this proposed service expands 176 00:06:26,840 --> 00:06:27,840 the existing service area that 177 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:29,840 we currently offer today with 178 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:30,840 fixed route, and it also 179 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:32,840 increases the service hours that 180 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:33,840 we are providing. 181 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:35,840 And then, you know, it has a lot 182 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:36,840 of benefits, right? 183 00:06:36,840 --> 00:06:37,840 So, from a business 184 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:39,840 perspective, sure, you know, it 185 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:41,840 is a more efficient service. 186 00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:43,840 But from a rider perspective, 187 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:44,840 that's where the service, you 188 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:46,840 know, really has a lot of 189 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:47,840 benefits. 190 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:48,840 It really improves the rider 191 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,840 experience from start to finish. 192 00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:53,840 And all of the vehicles are, 193 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:55,840 you know, going to be equipped 194 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:57,840 to handle, you know, bikes. 195 00:06:57,840 --> 00:06:59,840 A select number of the vehicles 196 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:00,840 will be available to handle 197 00:07:00,840 --> 00:07:01,840 wheelchairs. 198 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:02,840 As I mentioned before, it 199 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:04,840 extends our existing service 200 00:07:04,840 --> 00:07:06,840 area and it also shrinks the 201 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:07,840 wait time that people are 202 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:08,840 waiting to catch the next 203 00:07:08,840 --> 00:07:10,840 vehicle. 204 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,840 Through a request for proposal 205 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,840 process with, you know, that our 206 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:17,840 board conducted, they have 207 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,840 decided to partner with River 208 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,840 North Transit or VIA to provide 209 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:23,840 this service. 210 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,840 And so, you know, VIA has more 211 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,840 than 200 partners across six 212 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:28,840 continents. 213 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:29,840 We have done quite a bit of 214 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,840 research throughout that RFP 215 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:32,840 process as far as, you know, 216 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,840 contacting partners that VIA has 217 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,840 to see like what are the pros, 218 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:38,840 what are the cons of going with 219 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:39,840 the service. 220 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,840 You know, two of their partners 221 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:42,840 are right in our 222 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:43,840 neighborhood. 223 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:44,840 So Trinity Metro uses them 224 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:45,840 currently as well as the city 225 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:46,840 of Arlington. 226 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,840 The fleet and the stops will 227 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:50,840 change. 228 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:51,840 I think from a visual 229 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:52,840 perspective, this is kind of a 230 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:53,840 really key note. 231 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,840 So we will be moving away from 232 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,840 the large branded vehicles, the 233 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:00,840 buses. 234 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,840 Obviously, our UNT shuttles will 235 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:03,840 still operate. 236 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:04,840 But from a fixed route 237 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:05,840 perspective, we'll be going away 238 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:06,840 from the buses and moving 239 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,840 toward a DCTA branded Chrysler 240 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:09,840 Pacifica. 241 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,840 So it will still be branded. 242 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:12,840 It will not be an individual's 243 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:13,840 car. 244 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,840 It is a dedicated fleet specific 245 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,840 to a zone branded for DCTA. 246 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,840 It allows for six passengers 247 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:21,840 without a wheelchair. 248 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:22,840 With a wheelchair, you can get 249 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:23,840 two additional passengers in 250 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:24,840 the vehicle. 251 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,840 And there will be 30 vehicles 252 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:27,840 that will be assigned for this 253 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,840 first phase of the service. 254 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:30,840 And then we will go away from 255 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,840 designated stops and move to 256 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,840 what VIA calls virtual stops. 257 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:36,840 And so basically virtual stops 258 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,840 are located at any street 259 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,840 corner, any place that's safe 260 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,840 for a vehicle to pull over and 261 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:43,840 for a passenger to get on. 262 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,840 And so I always like to use 263 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,840 the example of if I'm sitting 264 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,840 on a bench in the city and my 265 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,840 closest bus stop is three blocks 266 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,840 away, you would have to walk the 267 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:55,840 three blocks. 268 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,840 But with this GoZone service, 269 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,840 you could sit on that bench. 270 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:00,840 You could bulk your ride. 271 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,840 You could stay on that bench. 272 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:03,840 And the app itself would show 273 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,840 you the closest street 274 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:06,840 intersection that you need to go 275 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,840 to in order to get straight into 276 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:09,840 your vehicle. 277 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,840 So it offers a little bit more. 278 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:12,840 Yes, ma'am? 279 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:13,840 >> Oh, sorry. 280 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:14,840 Can I ask a couple questions 281 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:15,840 about this slide? 282 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:16,840 Okay. 283 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:17,840 Okay. 284 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:18,840 Great. 285 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:19,840 And I guess I'll -- 286 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:20,840 >> Hang on. 287 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:21,840 Just a question. 288 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,840 Do we need to take the slides 289 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:28,840 down when members speak? 290 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,840 Question for counsel? 291 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:31,840 >> Yes. 292 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:32,840 That would be best. 293 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:33,840 Thank you. 294 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:34,840 >> Okay. 295 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:35,840 >> Okay. 296 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,840 >> Let me stop, Shini. 297 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:38,840 >> Sorry to add a technology 298 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:39,840 problem. 299 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:40,840 >> That's okay. 300 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:41,840 Good. 301 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:42,840 My technical expertise has 302 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,840 increased over the last year. 303 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:45,840 So I'm going to ask this one 304 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:46,840 later. 305 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:47,840 So I was wondering -- and this 306 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:48,840 is a question I've had for 307 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,840 some time, but it always gets 308 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,840 lost in my -- you know, I always 309 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:53,840 have so many questions, and I 310 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,840 decide I'm going to ask this 311 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:56,840 one later. 312 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:57,840 Excuse me. 313 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,840 This is about the vehicles. 314 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,840 So who owns the vehicles? 315 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,840 Is it VIA or DCTA? 316 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,840 And, you know, say -- so this is 317 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,840 a trial period. 318 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,840 You know, say it's decided that 319 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,840 this doesn't work or they want 320 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:20,840 to switch -- or there's a 321 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:21,840 decision to switch to some 322 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:22,840 other vehicles. 323 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,840 You know, who has ownership of 324 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:25,840 these vehicles? 325 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:26,840 >> Sure. 326 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,840 So specifically for that reason 327 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,840 and to allow VIA and DCTA to be 328 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,840 as flexible as possible, these 329 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,840 vehicles are actually through a 330 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:35,840 lease agreement. 331 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:36,840 And so that enables them to 332 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,840 scale the vehicles up or scale 333 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:39,840 the vehicles down as needed or 334 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:40,840 you can swap out vehicles if 335 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:41,840 necessary. 336 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,840 DCTA also retains fleet, what 337 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:45,840 we call them a cutaway. 338 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,840 It's a non-CDL operated 339 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:48,840 vehicle. 340 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:49,840 It's the small white bus that 341 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:50,840 you see on the road. 342 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,840 We also -- VIA has the 343 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,840 capability to integrate our 344 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:55,840 vehicles into their service 345 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,840 delivery so that if we see 346 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,840 through this real-time data 347 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,840 that there's just a ton of 348 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,840 frequency along one particular 349 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,840 area or one particular hub, we 350 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,840 could make the -- almost a 351 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,840 real-time switch to some of the 352 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:11,840 vehicles. 353 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,840 We could say we need to utilize 354 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,840 either a larger vehicle or a 355 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,840 DCTA-owned vehicle for that 356 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:18,840 purpose. 357 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:19,840 And so it gives us a lot of 358 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,840 flexibility to scale up or down 359 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:22,840 based on capacity. 360 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:23,840 >> Okay. 361 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,840 And so the lease is -- so DCTA 362 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,840 is leasing these vehicles from 363 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:28,840 VIA? 364 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,840 >> It's actually VIA is leasing 365 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:31,840 the vehicles. 366 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,840 >> VIA is leasing the vehicles 367 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,840 from Chrysler or -- 368 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,840 >> So this particular contract 369 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:38,840 is with Avis. 370 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,840 But they have leasing partners 371 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,840 that are beyond Avis. 372 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,840 But for this particular program 373 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:46,840 it's Avis. 374 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:47,840 >> Okay. 375 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:48,840 >> Just -- oh, sorry. 376 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,840 I'm trying to make that up. 377 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,840 >> So as far as -- so I'm 378 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,840 imagining -- so a Denton 379 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,840 resident and, you know, 380 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,840 taxpayer listening and kind of 381 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,840 wondering, so how much am I 382 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:03,840 paying for the vehicles? 383 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,840 You know, how much is -- and 384 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,840 I'm not asking you because I 385 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,840 don't -- and I'm not asking you 386 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:10,840 per taxpayer. 387 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,840 But just, you know, how much is 388 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:18,840 DCTA paying VIA to lease these 389 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,840 vehicles from Avis? 390 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:22,840 >> So -- 391 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,840 >> Several degrees of 392 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:25,840 separation, right? 393 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:26,840 >> Sure. 394 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,840 So the way that vehicle -- the 395 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,840 way that VIA's pricing model is 396 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,840 structured is that it's kind of 397 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,840 an all-encompassing service hour 398 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:35,840 rate. 399 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,840 So we pay per service hour per 400 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:38,840 vehicle. 401 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,840 So any capital or the lease 402 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,840 cost, that would all be 403 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,840 included in that hourly rate. 404 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,840 That hourly rate is actually 405 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,840 cheaper, about $10 cheaper than 406 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,840 what DCTA's service hour per 407 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:51,840 vehicle rate is. 408 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:52,840 >> Okay. 409 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,840 >> So for us to operate it 410 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:55,840 ourselves, it's actually 411 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,840 cheaper for VIA to operate it. 412 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:58,840 >> Okay. 413 00:12:58,840 --> 00:12:59,840 So thank you. 414 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:00,840 So the cost is just 415 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:01,840 all-inclusive. 416 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:02,840 >> Correct. 417 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:03,840 Yeah. 418 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,840 The only things that we pay up 419 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,840 front are any of the retrofit 420 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,840 bike racks, and then also to 421 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,840 make select vehicles within the 422 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,840 fleet wheelchair accessible. 423 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,840 We pay that up front. 424 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:16,840 >> Okay. 425 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:17,840 Thank you. 426 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,840 And then my next question is 427 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,840 about -- well, actually, I'll 428 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,840 let Mayor Pro Tem, you go, and 429 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:24,840 I'll remember. 430 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,840 >> Yeah, I just wanted to ask 431 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,840 Nicole if you have a preference 432 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,840 whether we hold our questions 433 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,840 to the end, or can we keep -- 434 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,840 you want us to go like this just 435 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:35,840 informally -- 436 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:36,840 >> I'm flexible. 437 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,840 >> Whatever works for you, I'm 438 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:39,840 flexible. 439 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:40,840 >> Well, okay. 440 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,840 So obviously, we have an 441 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,840 interest in asking as we go, so 442 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,840 I'll keep going to ask whatever 443 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:47,840 you want to ask. 444 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:48,840 >> Thank you. 445 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,840 And I don't plan to interrupt on 446 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,840 that many slides, but for 447 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,840 whatever reason, the questions 448 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,840 about vehicles and the stops are 449 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,840 questions that I always tend to 450 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,840 leave to the end and decide that 451 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,840 there's not enough time. 452 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,840 So about the stops, both the go 453 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,840 zone stops and then a virtual 454 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,840 stop, you know, so you mentioned 455 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,840 somebody waiting on a bench. 456 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,840 You know, we've got, as you know 457 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:23,840 already, there's an issue with 458 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,840 not enough DCTA bus stops being 459 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,840 covered from the elements, and 460 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,840 also just ADA accessibility in 461 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,840 terms of just ability to get on 462 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,840 to access those stops. 463 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,840 And so this, you know, leaves us 464 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,840 with -- would seem to leave us 465 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,840 with a similar, you know, and 466 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,840 actually probably, you know, 467 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,840 worst predicament where we've 468 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,840 got, you know, a lot of street 469 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,840 corners where there's not very 470 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,840 good ADA accessibility and also 471 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,840 where -- and I know you've got 472 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,840 this access service, right, but 473 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,840 also for anybody, you know, 474 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,840 there's not protection from the 475 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:11,840 elements. 476 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,840 Will there be -- will any of 477 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,840 these go stops be protected? 478 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,840 And, you know, what's the -- if 479 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,840 you could just kind of give your 480 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,840 sense of how this approach to 481 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,840 stops compares to the current 482 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,840 situation as far as, you know, 483 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,840 limited covered stops. 484 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:35,840 >> Sure. 485 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,840 So let me kind of answer this 486 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,840 each question at a time. 487 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,840 So regarding ADA accessibility, 488 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,840 I'm going to kind of give you 489 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:45,840 two answers. 490 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,840 So one is that if a passenger is 491 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,840 ADA qualified, meaning that they 492 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,840 follow the federal qualification 493 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,840 for, you know, ADA 494 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,840 identification, you know, 495 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,840 they can select that when 496 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:58,840 they're booking a trip, whether 497 00:15:58,840 --> 00:15:59,840 they're doing it on the app or 498 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:00,840 they're calling customer service 499 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:01,840 to book their trip. 500 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,840 They can self-select that they're 501 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:04,840 ADA qualified. 502 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,840 That means that the vehicle will 503 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:07,840 actually go to their door. 504 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,840 It's curb-to-curb service. 505 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:10,840 So this is actually an 506 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,840 improvement for, you know, ADA 507 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,840 qualified folks who currently use 508 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,840 our service and have to go to a 509 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,840 bus stop and maybe where there 510 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,840 isn't, you know, adequate 511 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,840 infrastructure in place for them 512 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,840 to get to the actual bus stop. 513 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,840 So it is an improvement. 514 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:28,840 Additionally, for those who are 515 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,840 not ADA certified, because there 516 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,840 are not designated stops, so 517 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,840 almost anything can be a stop. 518 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,840 Because there aren't designated 519 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,840 stops, you can sit and wait for 520 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:42,840 your ride wherever you want. 521 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,840 If you want to do that inside 522 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,840 your house or inside the store 523 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,840 to stay out of the elements, you 524 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:49,840 will see in real time on the 525 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,840 app when the vehicle is 526 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:52,840 arriving. 527 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,840 And you could time your exit 528 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,840 from a facility to literally 529 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,840 just meet the vehicle out on the 530 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:00,840 curb. 531 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,840 So it almost allows you -- you 532 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,840 don't have to be constrained to 533 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,840 just the bus stops that DCTA has 534 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:07,840 today. 535 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,840 Almost anything could be a stop. 536 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:10,840 >> Okay. 537 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:11,840 So it doesn't -- so you 538 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:12,840 mentioned corners. 539 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:13,840 I was taking a very literally 540 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:14,840 street corners. 541 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:15,840 But it could be -- you could 542 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,840 say, I'm inside the Walgreens 543 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:19,840 University. 544 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:20,840 It's raining. 545 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:21,840 Can you pull up right at the 546 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:22,840 door? 547 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,840 >> I mean, I would have to check 548 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,840 with VIA as far as like that 549 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:27,840 level of specificity. 550 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,840 But like certainly they can pull 551 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:30,840 up to the curb. 552 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:31,840 >> Okay. 553 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,840 And is the -- so the door-to-door 554 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,840 service, is that what you're 555 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,840 going to be addressing here 556 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,840 later as access, service, 557 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:41,840 paratransit? 558 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:42,840 Is that what that means? 559 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,840 >> So it's kind of mixed. 560 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,840 So currently today we offer 561 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,840 access service for both ADA 562 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,840 qualified and non-ADA qualified 563 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:51,840 folks. 564 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,840 Access service is extremely 565 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,840 expensive because it's very low 566 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:56,840 ridership. 567 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,840 It is door-to-door service. 568 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,840 And transitioning our access 569 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,840 service over to VIA from a cost 570 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,840 perspective and a service 571 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,840 delivery perspective makes a lot 572 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:07,840 of sense. 573 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,840 It would be a lot cheaper to 574 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,840 provide that level of access 575 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:12,840 service. 576 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,840 And the level of service that an 577 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,840 ADA passenger would receive is 578 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,840 much greater because of the 579 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,840 vehicle type and because of the 580 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,840 booking mechanism for access 581 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:23,840 service. 582 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,840 We have not uncovered all of the 583 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,840 details, which is why we're 584 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,840 saving that for our future 585 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:30,840 phase. 586 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:31,840 But all of the research that 587 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:32,840 we've done in looking at their 588 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,840 other partners who have done 589 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:35,840 this and talking to the 590 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,840 passengers that have transitioned 591 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,840 over to a VIA-supported access 592 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,840 service or paratransit service, 593 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,840 all of the feedback has been 594 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:44,840 extremely positive. 595 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,840 And so we recognize that we want 596 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:47,840 to do a little bit more work. 597 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:48,840 We also want to make sure that 598 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:49,840 we're doing direct one-on-one 599 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,840 research with our current access 600 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:52,840 passengers to make sure that 601 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:53,840 they're comfortable with the 602 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:54,840 move. 603 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:55,840 And we didn't want that to get 604 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:56,840 lost in this existing public 605 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:57,840 involvement process. 606 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:58,840 And so that's why we've 607 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,840 separated it out. 608 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,840 But the other hope was that this 609 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,840 service really lends itself to 610 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,840 an ADA-qualified service. 611 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,840 So why book on DCTA's access 612 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:15,840 when it might be more 613 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:16,840 convenient to book on DCTA 614 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:17,840 GoZone? 615 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:18,840 And so we wanted to give those 616 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,840 access passengers the choice. 617 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:22,840 That they could use access, 618 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:23,840 what works for them today, 619 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,840 scheduling ahead of time. 620 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,840 You know, we wanted to allow 621 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,840 them to continue that. 622 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:31,840 But we wanted to give them the 623 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:32,840 flexibility to try something 624 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:33,840 different that really might be 625 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,840 more convenient. 626 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:36,840 >> Okay. 627 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,840 So this is really in a -- it's 628 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,840 going to be for quite some time 629 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,840 in a feedback, you know, 630 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,840 transitional phase, it sounds 631 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:45,840 like. 632 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,840 But -- excuse me. 633 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,840 But with hours and days, you 634 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,840 know, will -- it appears be 635 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,840 different than the regular, you 636 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,840 know, GoZone hours and days. 637 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,840 The fees will be different. 638 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:01,840 >> That is correct. 639 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,840 >> And there's -- there are 640 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,840 fewer vehicles that can do 641 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:07,840 this. 642 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:08,840 So -- 643 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:09,840 >> So we would be looking to 644 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,840 add probably 8 to 10 vehicles 645 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,840 to the fleet simply to address 646 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:14,840 the access piece of it. 647 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,840 So it would not -- adding the 648 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,840 access phase in early 2022, we 649 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,840 would be required to increase 650 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:22,840 the number of vehicles that are 651 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:23,840 wheelchair accessible to our 652 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:24,840 fleet. 653 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:25,840 And that number -- that 654 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:26,840 estimated number right now is 655 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:27,840 between 8 and 10 vehicles. 656 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:28,840 >> Okay. 657 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:29,840 And it would -- so it would 658 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,840 cost more and be less, you 659 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:39,840 know, available at a limited 660 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,840 number of days and limited 661 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:42,840 times? 662 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:43,840 >> Correct. 663 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:44,840 And so that's what we're 664 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:45,840 working out right now. 665 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,840 But again, the base service 666 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,840 that we're looking to launch on 667 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,840 September 7th really addresses 668 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:52,840 a lot of those needs. 669 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,840 And so we kind of feel like it 670 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:55,840 gives folks who currently use 671 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,840 access like a trial period to 672 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,840 see if they like the service. 673 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:00,840 And I think that that's great 674 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,840 because then once -- if we 675 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:03,840 launch service and then we're 676 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:04,840 able to turn our attention to, 677 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,840 you know, access passengers to 678 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:07,840 focus on that phase, then they 679 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,840 have had some time to be able 680 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,840 to try the service and tell us 681 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,840 what they like, what they 682 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:13,840 don't like, what they would 683 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:14,840 want to see in access service 684 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,840 and get that real-time feedback. 685 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:17,840 >> Okay. 686 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:18,840 Thank you so much. 687 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:19,840 And I promise I'm not going to 688 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:20,840 be stopping like this. 689 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:21,840 >> It's okay. 690 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,840 >> There are 44 slides, though. 691 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:25,840 I promise. 692 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:26,840 >> My, you know, chair 693 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,840 perspective on this is whatever, 694 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:29,840 you know, we need to have the 695 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:30,840 conversation. 696 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,840 So it's fine with me if it goes 697 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:33,840 kind of organically. 698 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,840 I'll just have a comment and a 699 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:36,840 question myself. 700 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,840 My comment is -- I don't mean to 701 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:40,840 sound ungrateful. 702 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,840 I'm glad that access exists. 703 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:43,840 But I don't think it's a super 704 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,840 convenient service now. 705 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:46,840 I think there's a lot of room 706 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:47,840 for improvement. 707 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:48,840 I think scheduling a day ahead 708 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,840 is -- I don't live that way. 709 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:51,840 You know? 710 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,840 I mean, it's -- so I think, like 711 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:56,840 I said, there's a lot of room 712 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:57,840 for improvement. 713 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:58,840 My question, since you're kind 714 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,840 of going through the tick-tock 715 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:02,840 of, you know, what is the 716 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,840 experience to get a ride, what 717 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,840 if you don't have a smartphone? 718 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:08,840 A lot of people are transit 719 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,840 dependent, you know, don't have 720 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:11,840 income to support it and, you 721 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:12,840 know. 722 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:13,840 >> Yeah, absolutely. 723 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:14,840 So our customer service 724 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,840 department will be available to 725 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,840 book trips by -- you can call in 726 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:19,840 and they can book your trip or 727 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,840 you can visit the DDTC and they 728 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:22,840 can book your trip for you 729 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:23,840 there. 730 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,840 So it is -- it's fully -- we can 731 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,840 book any trips for folks with or 732 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:29,840 without a smartphone. 733 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:30,840 >> So you need some kind of a 734 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:31,840 phone. 735 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:32,840 >> Correct. 736 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:33,840 Yes. 737 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,840 Or you could go in person to the 738 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,840 DDTC. 739 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:37,840 >> Okay. 740 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:38,840 It's a little unlikely. 741 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:39,840 I mean, right. 742 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:40,840 How would you get there? 743 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,840 I mean, that's maybe a -- you 744 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,840 know, probably won't happen very 745 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:46,840 often. 746 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,840 But you could call from a land 747 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:50,840 line phone. 748 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:51,840 >> Correct. 749 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:52,840 Correct. 750 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,840 And we did -- we had extensive 751 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,840 conversations with a lot of the 752 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,840 social service agencies within 753 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,840 our member cities to talk about 754 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:00,840 that item specifically. 755 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,840 So to talk about those who might 756 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,840 not have like a data-rich phone 757 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:05,840 or those who might need the 758 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,840 unbanked population to make sure 759 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:08,840 that, you know, what were the 760 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,840 needs that they would have that 761 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,840 we would need to integrate into 762 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:13,840 our system to make sure that 763 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:14,840 they were accounted for. 764 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,840 One thing that I will share is 765 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,840 that the majority of the social 766 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,840 service agencies and primarily 767 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,840 the homelessness organizations 768 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,840 all reported that the majority 769 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:25,840 of their clientele have 770 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:26,840 smartphones. 771 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,840 Which, I mean, I will be very 772 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:30,840 honest, was a bit of a surprise 773 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:31,840 to me. 774 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,840 So because I kind of walked in 775 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:34,840 with that concern to say like, 776 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:35,840 hey, you know, we want to make 777 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:36,840 sure that we're addressing this 778 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:37,840 for you. 779 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:38,840 >> Yeah, that's -- 780 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,840 >> So we migrated from, you 781 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,840 know, luxury to bare necessity. 782 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:44,840 Yeah. 783 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:45,840 >> Yeah. 784 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,840 So -- but we did want to make 785 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:47,840 sure that, you know, there may 786 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,840 be people that have a data plan 787 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:50,840 on their phone, but they're not 788 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:51,840 comfortable using an app. 789 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:52,840 So what do we do for those 790 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:53,840 people? 791 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:54,840 And that's why our customer 792 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,840 service agents will have full 793 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,840 access to the back end of the 794 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,840 trip planning functionality, and 795 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:01,840 they'll be able to book a trip 796 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:02,840 for a person directly. 797 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,840 >> Do you have sort of a sense 798 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,840 of -- I guess maybe this is part 799 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,840 of your trial, but what the 800 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,840 demand would be on that -- on 801 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,840 those lines and kind of what 802 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:14,840 service level -- 803 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:15,840 >> Sure. 804 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:16,840 >> -- you maintain? 805 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,840 How long do I wait on hold, 806 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,840 right? 807 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:20,840 >> Right. 808 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,840 So as it is today, we take those 809 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:24,840 existing -- we take those 810 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:25,840 existing calls. 811 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,840 So we operate two on-demand 812 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,840 zones ourselves. 813 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:30,840 So the Lewisville Lakeway zone 814 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,840 and the DDTC evening on-demand 815 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,840 zone, those two zones would 816 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,840 actually be replaced with these 817 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:36,840 designated go zones within the 818 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,840 base service that we'll be 819 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,840 showing you. 820 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,840 And so they're currently taking 821 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,840 calls right now to book trips. 822 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,840 And so these calls would 823 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,840 essentially just replace those 824 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:48,840 trips. 825 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,840 We are currently working with 826 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:50,840 our contractor, the North Texas 827 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,840 Mobility Corporation, to talk 828 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,840 about customer service demands. 829 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,840 Because this service would 830 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:57,840 extend beyond existing hours 831 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,840 today, we need to make sure that 832 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:00,840 we offer customer service 833 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,840 coverage during those hours of 834 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:03,840 operation. 835 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,840 And so we are in conversation 836 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,840 right now with our contractor to 837 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:08,840 talk about those customer 838 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,840 service needs to ensure that 839 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:11,840 there are customer service 840 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,840 agents available when people 841 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:14,840 call. 842 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,840 >> I mean, do you have -- maybe 843 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:17,840 it's too early to say, but do 844 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,840 you have a targeted -- you know, 845 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:20,840 targeted the whole time, you 846 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,840 know, 90% of the calls to be 847 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,840 answered within 30 seconds? 848 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,840 >> Our customer service 849 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,840 department does have some KPIs 850 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:29,840 like that. 851 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:30,840 So it would fall within those 852 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,840 KPIs. 853 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,840 I can certainly follow up. 854 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:33,840 I mean, I have access to them. 855 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:34,840 I can follow up after the 856 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:35,840 meeting and let you know what 857 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:36,840 those are. 858 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:37,840 But I will tell you that call 859 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,840 volumes, and especially due to 860 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,840 COVID, have been increasing, 861 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,840 like, very low. 862 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,840 And so the bandwidth that our 863 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,840 customer service team has is 864 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:47,840 quite wide. 865 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,840 You know, and again, that's 866 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:50,840 something, too, that we can 867 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,840 address in real time, that if 868 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:53,840 all of a sudden we see a major 869 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,840 influx, and we've done it 870 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,840 before, we bring in, you know, 871 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,840 like, temporary assistance to 872 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:00,840 kind of help with that influx 873 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:01,840 until we can hire somebody 874 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,840 full-time. 875 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,840 And, you know, we recognize 876 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,840 that one of the priorities in 877 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,840 this program is to enhance the 878 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:09,840 customer experience. 879 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:10,840 And if you're waiting on the 880 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:11,840 call for a long time, that's not 881 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:12,840 enhancing the customer 882 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:13,840 experience. 883 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:14,840 That's getting on a bad -- you 884 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:15,840 know, starting your trip on a 885 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:16,840 bad foot. 886 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:17,840 And we don't want to do that. 887 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,840 So that will be something that 888 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,840 is managed in real time through 889 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:21,840 our customer service 890 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,840 department. 891 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:23,840 But I can follow up with the 892 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,840 actual KPIs. 893 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:25,840 >> You know, I mean, I'm just 894 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:26,840 sort of raising the point 895 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,840 because that will become one of 896 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,840 those potential, you know, 897 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:30,840 points of failure unless it's 898 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,840 very actively managed. 899 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:32,840 >> Sure. 900 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:33,840 >> Okay. 901 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:34,840 Great. 902 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:35,840 Thanks, Kari. 903 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,840 >> Are we good for me to share 904 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:38,840 my screen again? 905 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:39,840 >> Yeah. 906 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,840 >> Okay. 907 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,840 >> For maybe a second or two, 908 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:43,840 we'll see. 909 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:44,840 >> That's okay. 910 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,840 That's all right. 911 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,840 Okay. 912 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,840 So we'll go to this next slide. 913 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:53,840 I want to talk about the GoZone 914 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,840 fare structure a little bit. 915 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:56,840 So right now what we're 916 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,840 proposing is that we offer a 917 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,840 six-month fare promotion, which 918 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,840 basically trades out access to 919 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,840 our fixed route with access to 920 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:06,840 GoZone. 921 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,840 So I mean, I'll use kind of an 922 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:09,840 example here. 923 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,840 So a local day pass is $3. 924 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,840 It provides you service to -- 925 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,840 you can get on UNT shuttles. 926 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,840 You can get on the A train. 927 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,840 You can get on Connect bus 928 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:20,840 service, and you can get on our 929 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,840 two on-demand zones. 930 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,840 You can do that all day long. 931 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,840 Basically what we would do is 932 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,840 you would still buy a local day 933 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,840 pass at $3, and you would have 934 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:30,840 access to the A train. 935 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,840 You would have access to UNT 936 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:33,840 shuttle services. 937 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,840 You would have access to routes 938 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:36,840 three and seven, because those 939 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,840 would be our two existing -- the 940 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,840 two fixed routes that would 941 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,840 remain. 942 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:41,840 And then you would have access 943 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:42,840 to GoZone. 944 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:43,840 So we're basically just 945 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,840 replacing the accessibility. 946 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:46,840 There are a couple of variations 947 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:47,840 here. 948 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,840 So our original proposition was 949 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,840 that if you were purchasing a 950 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,840 day pass, you would get three or 951 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,840 four one-ride credits on GoZone 952 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,840 with that day pass. 953 00:27:58,840 --> 00:27:59,840 If you were to purchase a local 954 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,840 AM/PM pass, which is only good 955 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,840 for half of the day, you would 956 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,840 get two one-ride credits on 957 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,840 GoZone. 958 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,840 In further discussion with VIA, 959 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,840 they have proposed potentially 960 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,840 looking at kind of providing all 961 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,840 day service. 962 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,840 So if you buy a local day pass, 963 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:17,840 much like you could ride Connect 964 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,840 service all day long as many 965 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:20,840 times as you want, that you 966 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,840 would be able to do the same 967 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,840 thing with GoZone. 968 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,840 So that is some additional 969 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:25,840 feedback that we have received, 970 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,840 and we are currently kind of 971 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:28,840 talking about both options with 972 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,840 the community to kind of say 973 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,840 what would you prefer, what 974 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,840 would work best for you so that 975 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,840 we can pull all of that feedback 976 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:36,840 together and really make a 977 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:37,840 final recommendation to the 978 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:38,840 board. 979 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,840 So nothing is final on the 980 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,840 fairs, but we do know that we 981 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,840 don't want to modify the 982 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,840 existing fair media type. 983 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:45,840 We recognize that there are 984 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:46,840 people out there that have 985 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,840 passes. 986 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,840 We need those passes to still 987 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:49,840 work. 988 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,840 You know, as Ms. Arbiter said, 989 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,840 we are kind of in a beta test 990 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:55,840 process with this. 991 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:56,840 Like, we certainly don't want 992 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:57,840 to wipe away old fares, create 993 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,840 new ones, and then have to 994 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:00,840 pull them back again. 995 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,840 So we're integrating access to 996 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,840 GoZone in our existing fair 997 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,840 structure with one addition. 998 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:08,840 We recognize that there are 999 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,840 people that might not want a 1000 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,840 day pass or an AM/PM pass. 1001 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,840 Maybe they just want to use 1002 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,840 GoZone. 1003 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,840 And so we will be offering one 1004 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,840 ride credits at 75 cents each. 1005 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,840 So basically, if I wanted to go 1006 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,840 to the neighborhood Walmart, do 1007 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,840 my errands and come back home, 1008 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,840 it's going to cost me $1.50. 1009 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:27,840 And so that additional fare 1010 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,840 type will be available. 1011 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:31,840 So the booking process, which 1012 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,840 we've talked a little bit about... 1013 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:34,840 - Let's check this question 1014 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:35,840 there. 1015 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:36,840 - Oh, sure. 1016 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,840 Sorry, I can't see everything. 1017 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:38,840 - How long will this 1018 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:39,840 promotional period be? 1019 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:40,840 Is it the first six months? 1020 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,840 - It's the first six months. 1021 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:43,840 - Okay. 1022 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,840 - How much latitude do we have, 1023 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,840 Council, in terms of not taking 1024 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:48,840 the slides down for every quick 1025 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,840 answer? 1026 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,840 - I prefer that we did, but we 1027 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,840 can be flexible if it's a quick 1028 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,840 one. 1029 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:57,840 - Okay. 1030 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:58,840 So, Judge? 1031 00:29:58,840 --> 00:29:59,840 - Sure. 1032 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,840 So it is for six months. 1033 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,840 The FTA allows us to offer a 1034 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,840 promotional period for a period 1035 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,840 of six months with the intent to 1036 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:09,840 collect data... 1037 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:10,840 - Let's take the slide down. 1038 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:11,840 I know it's, you know, we're 1039 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:12,840 being a little slavish about 1040 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:13,840 folks. 1041 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,840 - Sure, sure, sure. 1042 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,840 - But, you know, we're a 1043 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:16,840 government entity. 1044 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:17,840 - Okay. 1045 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:18,840 - That's what we do. 1046 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:19,840 - All right, there you go. 1047 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:20,840 So the FTA does allow you to do 1048 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:21,840 a six-month promotion with the 1049 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:22,840 intent to collect data from that 1050 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,840 promotion in order to put 1051 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,840 something final in place. 1052 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,840 So while that six-month 1053 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:28,840 promotional period would be in 1054 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,840 place, staff would be collecting 1055 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:31,840 real-time data based on what 1056 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,840 type of tickets people are 1057 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,840 purchasing, how they're using 1058 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,840 the system, in order to make a 1059 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:37,840 final recommendation to our 1060 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,840 board about the fare structure. 1061 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:40,840 It's very possible it could end 1062 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:41,840 up being the same, and we would 1063 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:42,840 just adopt that promotional 1064 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,840 fare structure. 1065 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,840 It's also possible that it 1066 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,840 could change based on user 1067 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:51,840 behavior. 1068 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,840 - Good. 1069 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:53,840 - Okay. 1070 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:54,840 - That's my partnership. 1071 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,840 Ready to move forward? 1072 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,840 Okay. 1073 00:30:58,840 --> 00:30:59,840 - Okay. 1074 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:00,840 All right. 1075 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,840 Can you see that? 1076 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:05,840 - Yeah. 1077 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:06,840 - Okay, perfect. 1078 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,840 Okay. 1079 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:08,840 So we talked a little bit about 1080 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,840 the booking process. 1081 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,840 The easiest way to explain it, 1082 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:11,840 it is very similar to like an 1083 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,840 Uber or a Lyft process. 1084 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,840 You would set up an account on 1085 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:16,840 the GoZone app. 1086 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,840 It would be a DCTA GoZone 1087 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:19,840 branded app. 1088 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,840 It is specifically for DCTA. 1089 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:22,840 All you are going to see are 1090 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,840 DCTA GoZones. 1091 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:25,840 You would be able to look like 1092 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,840 you were on an Uber or a Lyft. 1093 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,840 You would be able to select your 1094 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,840 closest pickup point and drop-off 1095 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:31,840 point. 1096 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,840 You could see your driver 1097 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:35,840 heading to you. 1098 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:36,840 You can see when they are 1099 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:37,840 pulling up. 1100 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:38,840 Again, I mentioned before the 1101 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:39,840 convenience of like if it is 1102 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,840 raining, you know, staying 1103 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:42,840 indoors as long as you possibly 1104 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,840 can until you see the vehicle 1105 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,840 and go out there. 1106 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,840 So it has a lot of flexibility. 1107 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:48,840 It also gives you the 1108 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,840 opportunity to provide direct 1109 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,840 feedback about your driver. 1110 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:53,840 So at the end of your trip, it 1111 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,840 will pull up a screen to have 1112 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:58,840 you rate your driver. 1113 00:31:58,840 --> 00:31:59,840 So if all of a sudden we 1114 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,840 receive a negative rating on a 1115 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:02,840 driver, then that's a notation 1116 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:03,840 to us that we need to look into 1117 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:04,840 that. 1118 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,840 And so that real-time feedback 1119 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,840 again is really important. 1120 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:08,840 The one thing I will say is 1121 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:09,840 that for somebody who doesn't 1122 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,840 have a smartphone, you don't 1123 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,840 need this app to navigate the 1124 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:14,840 process. 1125 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:15,840 You can book with your customer 1126 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,840 service. 1127 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:17,840 They can tell you where to stand. 1128 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:18,840 They can give you all of those 1129 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,840 directions. 1130 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:20,840 They can walk you through that 1131 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:21,840 trip planning. 1132 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,840 The difference is that you 1133 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,840 won't have these additional 1134 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,840 visuals in front of you. 1135 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,840 So there is a trade-off for 1136 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,840 calling in and booking your 1137 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:29,840 trip that way. 1138 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,840 But this is kind of the proposed 1139 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:33,840 process. 1140 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,840 This is not the proposed mock-up 1141 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:36,840 but this is the proposed 1142 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,840 process for this app. 1143 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,840 In addition, you will be able to 1144 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,840 purchase other DCTA for media. 1145 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,840 So say you decide I want the 1146 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:46,840 local day pass because I need 1147 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,840 to use GoZone to get to the 1148 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,840 A-Train. 1149 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,840 You can do all of that within 1150 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:52,840 this app. 1151 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,840 So you can purchase your local 1152 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,840 day pass. 1153 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,840 You can show that day pass. 1154 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:58,840 You can self-select in the 1155 00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,840 booking process that you have a 1156 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,840 day pass that would be validated 1157 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,840 by the driver once you get into 1158 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:04,840 the vehicle. 1159 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,840 And then that pass is good. 1160 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,840 You can use it on other system 1161 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,840 modes as well. 1162 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,840 >> I think a quick question. 1163 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,840 I don't know if this would 1164 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,840 actually occur but could someone 1165 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,840 who had called in on a landline 1166 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,840 or any other phone conceivably 1167 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,840 also call in to rate their ride? 1168 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:25,840 >> Yes, absolutely. 1169 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:26,840 Yes. 1170 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:27,840 So there are several other 1171 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,840 methods for rating your ride. 1172 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:30,840 So you can call in directly to 1173 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:31,840 customer service. 1174 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:32,840 You can use our social media 1175 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:33,840 channels and then we also have 1176 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,840 a system called GoRequest which 1177 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:36,840 a lot of governmental entities 1178 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,840 use and that is a customer 1179 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,840 feedback tool which we promote 1180 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:41,840 quite heavily. 1181 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:42,840 And so that would be included 1182 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:43,840 in all of our information as 1183 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,840 well. 1184 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,840 But if you want to provide 1185 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,840 direct feedback on GoZone, 1186 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,840 please do it in this method. 1187 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:50,840 >> I'm sorry. 1188 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,840 I don't understand the tool. 1189 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,840 Is that also an online thing? 1190 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,840 >> GoRequest you can use on your 1191 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:58,840 phone, you can use it on a 1192 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,840 computer or you can call customer 1193 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,840 service and provide a comment. 1194 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,840 >> Yeah. 1195 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,840 I'm just looking after that 1196 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,840 constituency that is going to be 1197 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,840 using a phone. 1198 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:12,840 Okay. 1199 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:19,840 >> Absolutely. 1200 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,840 And yes, we can see it. 1201 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:25,840 >> All right. 1202 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,840 So we're looking at the three 1203 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,840 phase approach to launch the 1204 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:29,840 service. 1205 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:30,840 And the first phase of the 1206 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,840 service which would be slated 1207 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,840 for September 7th of this year 1208 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,840 is really the lion's share of 1209 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:37,840 the service. 1210 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:38,840 And so what we started with and 1211 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:39,840 we'll go through this in 1212 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:40,840 detail, what we started with is 1213 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:41,840 the base service. 1214 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:42,840 And the base service is what 1215 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,840 truly replaces fixed route 1216 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,840 service. 1217 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,840 So that was the first intent, 1218 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,840 is to create a service that 1219 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,840 replaced fixed route in a whole. 1220 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,840 Then the DCTA board said this is 1221 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,840 really cost effective. 1222 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:57,840 This is going to be a very 1223 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,840 convenient service. 1224 00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,840 Are there ways that we can 1225 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:00,840 expand service offerings? 1226 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,840 And so they created what they 1227 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,840 called phase one add-ons. 1228 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,840 And so these are all additional 1229 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:07,840 service levels that we don't 1230 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,840 currently offer today that are 1231 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,840 being proposed to launch with 1232 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,840 the base service on September 1233 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:13,840 7th. 1234 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,840 Then we have two additional 1235 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,840 phases. 1236 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,840 And that's phase two A and phase 1237 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:19,840 two B. 1238 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,840 So phase two A is the addition 1239 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,840 of Castle Hills and our access 1240 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:24,840 paratransit service. 1241 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,840 And that's slated for early 1242 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:26,840 2022. 1243 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,840 And then phase two B is the 1244 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,840 addition of late night, weekday 1245 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:31,840 hours. 1246 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,840 And that's truly just based on 1247 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:34,840 ridership and demand. 1248 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,840 And so we would slate to 1249 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:37,840 consider that in the summer of 1250 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,840 2022. 1251 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:41,840 So these maps you're going to 1252 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,840 get very familiar with here. 1253 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,840 This is the base service that I 1254 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:46,840 talked about. 1255 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,840 This is where we started, where 1256 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:49,840 the board started. 1257 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:50,840 And they said if we were to 1258 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,840 create zone service to replace 1259 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,840 fixed route, what would it look 1260 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:55,840 like? 1261 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,840 And so these are the two zones 1262 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:58,840 that were created. 1263 00:35:58,840 --> 00:35:59,840 There's the Denton Go Zone and 1264 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:00,840 then the Lewisville Highland 1265 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:01,840 Village Go Zone. 1266 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,840 Currently the way that this is 1267 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,840 set up is that the core hours 1268 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,840 would be Monday through 1269 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:07,840 Saturday. 1270 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,840 You would be able to book trips 1271 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:10,840 within the Denton Go Zone and 1272 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:11,840 then within the Lewisville 1273 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,840 Highland Village Zone using the 1274 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:14,840 A train as a connector between 1275 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:15,840 the two. 1276 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,840 So this is just kind of the 1277 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:18,840 replication of fixed route as it 1278 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,840 is today. 1279 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:20,840 I will say that the zone service 1280 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,840 is slightly larger than where we 1281 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:23,840 offer fixed route. 1282 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,840 So it already offers expanded 1283 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:26,840 service. 1284 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,840 The board also looked at some 1285 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:29,840 increased hours. 1286 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,840 So the hours differ a little bit. 1287 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:32,840 There's more hours of service 1288 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,840 than what we currently provide 1289 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:34,840 today. 1290 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,840 But when they saw the space 1291 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,840 level service, they said what 1292 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,840 can we do to add on to this to 1293 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,840 provide even more service to the 1294 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:42,840 community? 1295 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:43,840 And so that's where you get all 1296 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,840 of these phase one updates. 1297 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:46,840 These are phase one add-ons. 1298 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,840 And there's various components. 1299 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:49,840 So I'm going to try and walk 1300 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:50,840 through them. 1301 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:51,840 But certainly if you have any 1302 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:52,840 questions, let me know. 1303 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,840 So again, these phase one add-ons 1304 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,840 would launch on September 7th 1305 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,840 along with the base service. 1306 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,840 The first add-on that the board 1307 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,840 looked at is the Saturday hours 1308 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:04,840 extension. 1309 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,840 So currently service on -- and 1310 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,840 that bullet under Saturday hours 1311 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:09,840 extension should not say Friday. 1312 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:10,840 It should say Saturday. 1313 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,840 I apologize. 1314 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,840 But they looked at hours of 1315 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,840 service on Saturday and they 1316 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:16,840 don't end at 8 p.m. 1317 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,840 And they said for people that 1318 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:18,840 want to go out on the weekends 1319 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,840 maybe connect to the dark green 1320 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,840 line or go to a restaurant or 1321 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,840 some sort of, you know, a 1322 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,840 musical play in one of these 1323 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,840 zones, like things don't end at 1324 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,840 8 p.m. 1325 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:30,840 on a Saturday. 1326 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,840 So they extended service on 1327 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,840 Saturdays from 8 p.m. 1328 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:34,840 to 11 p.m. 1329 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,840 They also looked at Sunday 1330 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,840 service. 1331 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:38,840 So currently we don't offer 1332 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:39,840 Sunday service. 1333 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:40,840 And they said wouldn't it be 1334 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,840 really nice if we could offer 1335 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:43,840 some Sunday service? 1336 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,840 And so they're proposing that 1337 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,840 on Sundays the zones would 1338 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:47,840 fully operate, but you would 1339 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,840 also be able to connect between 1340 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:50,840 the zones. 1341 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:51,840 So what you're seeing here on 1342 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,840 this map is you're seeing blue 1343 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,840 being the base service and the 1344 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,840 yellow being these add-ons. 1345 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:57,840 You would basically on a Sunday 1346 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,840 be able to travel via GoZone 1347 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:00,840 with a one-seat ride between 1348 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,840 any of these zones. 1349 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:04,840 They also looked at Denton 1350 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:05,840 specifically in the Demian 1351 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,840 neighborhood and said, you 1352 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,840 know, there's a great need for 1353 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,840 service in this neighborhood 1354 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,840 and we don't offer service 1355 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:12,840 there today. 1356 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,840 And so you'll see up there at 1357 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:14,840 the top of the map outlined in 1358 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:15,840 yellow. 1359 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,840 They extended the Denton GoZone 1360 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,840 to include this Demian 1361 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,840 extension as well as I believe 1362 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:22,840 there's a development, like a 1363 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:23,840 new neighborhood development 1364 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,840 within that zone as well. 1365 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:26,840 And so what you're seeing in 1366 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:27,840 yellow, that will kind of 1367 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:28,840 become the new boundary of the 1368 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,840 Denton GoZone. 1369 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,840 Specifically for Lewisville and 1370 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,840 Highland Village, they looked 1371 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,840 at commuter traffic. 1372 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:36,840 Lewisville and Highland Village 1373 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,840 have a high demand to bring 1374 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,840 workers into their 1375 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:40,840 communities. 1376 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,840 And we recognize that the A 1377 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,840 train frequency is not where it 1378 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:46,840 needs to be, but we're working 1379 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,840 to get there. 1380 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,840 And so they looked at how could 1381 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:51,840 we provide sustainable 1382 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,840 transportation to those who are 1383 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,840 coming into that zone and need 1384 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,840 to get to, you know, an early 1385 00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,840 morning work day for shift work 1386 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:00,840 or whatnot. 1387 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,840 And so we've created, although 1388 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,840 the name is not very elegant, 1389 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,840 the Dart-Frankford Station to 1390 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:07,840 Lewisville-Highland Village 1391 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:08,840 GoZone. 1392 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:09,840 And basically what you'll see 1393 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:10,840 at the bottom of the map, there 1394 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,840 are two train icons. 1395 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,840 The one on the top is where the 1396 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:15,840 Frankfurt Station is. 1397 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:16,840 That does not connect to our A 1398 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,840 train, but it is closest to the 1399 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:19,840 Lewisville-Highland Village 1400 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:20,840 Zone. 1401 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,840 So we would create a hub at the 1402 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:23,840 Dart-Frankford Station that if 1403 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:24,840 people were taking the green 1404 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,840 line, they could get off at the 1405 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,840 Dart-Frankford Station, they 1406 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,840 could book a ride on GoZone, and 1407 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:30,840 it would take them to any 1408 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:31,840 location within the Lewisville 1409 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,840 Highland Village GoZone. 1410 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,840 And then in return, it would get 1411 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:37,840 them back. 1412 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,840 And so that service is only 1413 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,840 available Monday through Friday 1414 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,840 kind of during commuter peak 1415 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:42,840 hours. 1416 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,840 We also looked at growing the 1417 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,840 areas in Lewisville, so the 1418 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,840 Business 121 North Zone 1419 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,840 Expansion, which you'll see off 1420 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:52,840 to the right in yellow. 1421 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,840 Before you move on, could you 1422 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:55,840 pull up the Frankteloo or 1423 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:56,840 something like that? 1424 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,840 Just a suggestion. 1425 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:00,840 Carry on. 1426 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:01,840 I like that. 1427 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:02,840 A little bit of this and a 1428 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:03,840 little bit of that. 1429 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,840 Just marrying it up together. 1430 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,840 We'll consider that. 1431 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:10,840 So the Business 121 North Zone 1432 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,840 Expansion provides service to 1433 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,840 highly dense areas where 1434 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:15,840 there's some apartment as well 1435 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,840 as retail offerings. 1436 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,840 And so that would be considered 1437 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:20,840 an extension of the Lewisville 1438 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,840 Highland Village Zone. 1439 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:23,840 This would be the first time 1440 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:24,840 that you would see what we're 1441 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,840 calling intra-zone travel. 1442 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:27,840 So you could travel on a one 1443 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,840 seat ride anywhere between the 1444 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:30,840 Lewisville Highland Village Go 1445 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:31,840 Zone and anywhere within those 1446 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,840 yellow zones to the right, so 1447 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,840 the Business 121 North Zone. 1448 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,840 And then we're offering a 1449 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,840 guaranteed ride home expansion. 1450 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:42,840 And so this is provided Monday 1451 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:43,840 through Saturday for three 1452 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,840 additional hours after the base 1453 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:46,840 service ends. 1454 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:47,840 We have continually received 1455 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,840 feedback that the A train does 1456 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,840 not operate late enough. 1457 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,840 And so what we would do is say 1458 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,840 that you went to a Mavs game on 1459 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:56,840 a Saturday. 1460 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:57,840 You parked at an A train 1461 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:58,840 station. 1462 00:40:58,840 --> 00:40:59,840 You took the A train to connect 1463 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:00,840 to the dark green line. 1464 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,840 You went to a Mavs game. 1465 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:03,840 The Mavs game goes into 1466 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:04,840 overtime. 1467 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,840 And so by the time you get back 1468 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:07,840 on the dark green line and you 1469 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:08,840 come back to Denton or, you 1470 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,840 know, to Denton County, the A 1471 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,840 train has stopped running. 1472 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:13,840 What do you do, right? 1473 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:14,840 That's the reason why a lot of 1474 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,840 folks don't use the A train late 1475 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,840 in the evening to do 1476 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,840 entertainment events. 1477 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:20,840 Well, this guaranteed ride home 1478 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,840 would allow you to come back to 1479 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:24,840 the Trinity Mill Station just 1480 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,840 like you would on the dark 1481 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:26,840 green line to connect to the A 1482 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:27,840 train. 1483 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:28,840 You could book yourself a Go Zone 1484 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,840 ride between those three hours 1485 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:31,840 of extension. 1486 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,840 So it's from 11 p.m. until 2 a.m. 1487 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:35,840 You'd be able to book a ride on 1488 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,840 Go Zone, and it would take you 1489 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,840 to one destination within any of 1490 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,840 the zones. 1491 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,840 So you could go from Trinity 1492 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,840 Mills to, you know, the Med Park 1493 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,840 Station in Denton if you wanted. 1494 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:47,840 You could go from Trinity Mills 1495 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,840 to your house. 1496 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:50,840 You could go Trinity Mills to a 1497 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:51,840 7-Eleven. 1498 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,840 Whatever your final destination 1499 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,840 is, the difference is it's just 1500 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,840 a one-seat ride. 1501 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,840 So the core base service itself 1502 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:01,840 would not be operating. 1503 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,840 It would just be that ride home. 1504 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:05,840 And so these are the expansions 1505 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,840 that the DCTA board added to 1506 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,840 the proposal of Phase 1 1507 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:12,840 specifically to provide 1508 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,840 additional service. 1509 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,840 I'll stop for questions because 1510 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:17,840 I anticipate that there will be 1511 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:18,840 questions on this. 1512 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,840 But if not, I can move on, but 1513 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:21,840 at least want to give you the 1514 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:22,840 opportunity. 1515 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:23,840 >> All right. 1516 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:24,840 Go ahead, Councilmember Arbiter. 1517 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,840 Anything on this slide? 1518 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:27,840 >> No. 1519 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:28,840 >> Okay. 1520 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:29,840 >> Just a comment. 1521 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,840 >> Go ahead, Councilmember Moutzer. 1522 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:33,840 >> Yeah, not a question. 1523 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:34,840 Just a comment. 1524 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,840 A 13-ride home is a great idea. 1525 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,840 >> Chair, I wanted to ask you a 1526 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,840 really quick question. 1527 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,840 Mr. Polster is going to have to 1528 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,840 sign off at 10 a.m. this 1529 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:48,840 morning. 1530 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,840 I know Nicole is in the middle of 1531 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,840 her presentation, and it may take 1532 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:53,840 a little bit longer. 1533 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,840 I wanted to see if you wanted to 1534 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,840 take an opportunity to pause with 1535 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,840 this presentation and allow Mr. 1536 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,840 Polster to make his presentation 1537 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:02,840 and then we could come back to 1538 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:03,840 Nicole's. 1539 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:04,840 >> Okay. 1540 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:05,840 I'm open to that. 1541 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,840 My serious question for John is 1542 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,840 can he do anything in 15 minutes 1543 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:11,840 or 14 minutes, whatever we've 1544 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:12,840 got left? 1545 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,840 >> He has told me he can. 1546 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:15,840 And so -- 1547 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,840 >> Is that all right, Nicole? 1548 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:18,840 >> Absolutely. 1549 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:19,840 I am here all day. 1550 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:20,840 >> Okay. 1551 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:21,840 I appreciate your flexibility. 1552 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:22,840 >> I apologize, Nicole. 1553 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:23,840 >> It's okay. 1554 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:24,840 >> Just know this may take a 1555 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:25,840 little bit longer and want to 1556 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:26,840 give you ample opportunity to 1557 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:27,840 take the presentation. 1558 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:28,840 >> Absolutely. 1559 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:29,840 >> You're all kinds of flexible 1560 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:30,840 today. 1561 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:31,840 So we're going to -- so I'll take 1562 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,840 this one. 1563 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,840 We'll open item C, receive a 1564 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,840 report and hold the discussion 1565 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:40,840 regarding city of debt and 1566 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:41,840 transportation mobility project 1567 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:42,840 status report. 1568 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:43,840 Mr. Polster. 1569 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,840 >> My apologies for the schedule 1570 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:46,840 conflict. 1571 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,840 I'm going to share the report 1572 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,840 and I will follow the same 1573 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:51,840 process. 1574 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,840 If you have any questions, I'll 1575 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:59,840 pull it down. 1576 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,840 Do you all see it? 1577 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:05,840 >> Yes, sir. 1578 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:06,840 >> Okay. 1579 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,840 So this is the city of Denton's 1580 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:09,840 transportation mobility project 1581 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,840 report. 1582 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,840 It covers all of the primarily 1583 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,840 on-system projects that city of 1584 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,840 Denton are involved in or 1585 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,840 interested in from a tex dot 1586 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:20,840 standpoint. 1587 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,840 We have general project summary 1588 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,840 sheet of what the projects are 1589 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,840 and who is -- when they are 1590 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,840 going to let and approximate 1591 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:31,840 dollar amounts. 1592 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,840 So you'll see this report 1593 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,840 covers about 2.6 billion 1594 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:37,840 dollars worth of roadway 1595 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,840 improvements in and around the 1596 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:40,840 city of Denton. 1597 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,840 First project that we cover is 1598 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,840 FM 2181 north-south. 1599 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,840 It's a section from where 2181 1600 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,840 ends near 2499 and then moves 1601 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,840 forward up to Lillian Miller. 1602 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,840 We're widening it as a six- 1603 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,840 lane divided urban facility. 1604 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,840 For those new to the committee, 1605 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,840 this project was originally 1606 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,840 contracted to a different firm 1607 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,840 that went bankrupt and so the 1608 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,840 state had to re-let the project 1609 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,840 and Zachary was the low bidder 1610 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,840 and so it changed our schedule 1611 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,840 to a degree to accommodate the 1612 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,840 new time for the new contractor. 1613 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,840 When we have a report on a 1614 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:23,840 project that's under 1615 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,840 construction, we get a tex dot 1616 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:26,840 monthly project report. 1617 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,840 It tells who the project 1618 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,840 manager is, the contractor's 1619 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,840 superintendent for in this case 1620 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:37,840 Zachary. 1621 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,840 When the project began and here 1622 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:41,840 it shows anticipated 1623 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,840 completion date of March 22, it 1624 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:44,840 gives the current activity and 1625 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:45,840 right now if you've been out 1626 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:46,840 there you see we're doing 1627 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,840 subgrade work, doing a lot of 1628 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,840 lines, stabilization and as you 1629 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,840 dig up on an existing facility 1630 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,840 you'll always have various 1631 00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,840 utility conflicts and so as we 1632 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,840 come across those we address 1633 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,840 them and we're continually 1634 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,840 making those changes and we are 1635 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,840 still on track for the March 1636 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,840 22 completion date. 1637 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,840 The forward drive, we just had 1638 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,840 the ribbon cutting on this 1639 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,840 project on April 26th. 1640 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,840 It was somewhat apropos in the 1641 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,840 middle of our presentation the 1642 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,840 Union Pacific drove a train 1643 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,840 that would commemorate the 1644 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,840 opening of the project so that 1645 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:30,840 was interesting. 1646 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,840 So this project still has a few 1647 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,840 what we call closeout punch list 1648 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,840 items but essentially probably 1649 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,840 next month this will not be in 1650 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,840 your report because the road is 1651 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,840 open to traffic and essentially 1652 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,840 completed as far as the 1653 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,840 residents are concerned. 1654 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,840 The next big project is your 1655 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,840 Mayhill 35E project and again 1656 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,840 those new to the mobility 1657 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:55,840 infrastructure. 1658 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,840 When you envision what was at 1659 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,840 or is at loop 288 and 35 that 1660 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,840 has 10 lanes of traffic 1661 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,840 underneath the interstate. 1662 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,840 When Mayhill is done there will 1663 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,840 be 12 lanes of traffic 1664 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,840 underneath 35. 1665 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,840 We're also at Brinker we're 1666 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,840 adding bypass furnace roads so 1667 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,840 currently when you exit Mayhill 1668 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,840 to get to loop 288 you have to 1669 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,840 stop at the Brinker signal in 1670 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,840 both directions if you exit 288 1671 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,840 to get to Mayhill you have to 1672 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,840 stop at the Brinker signal. 1673 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,840 This project will also include 1674 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,840 bypass furnace roads so if you 1675 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,840 exit for 288 and want to go to 1676 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,840 288 we'll go straight over the 1677 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,840 Brinker structure and stop at 1678 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,840 loop 288 instead of the same 1679 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,840 one Brinker same and reverse 1680 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:41,840 going southbound. 1681 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,840 Currently we are in the process 1682 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,840 of acquiring the remaining 1683 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,840 parcels of land that we had to 1684 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,840 add because of those bypass 1685 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,840 ramps and we're working on 1686 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,840 utility relocations and if you 1687 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,840 drove by there you'll see that 1688 00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,840 for example on James Wood they 1689 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,840 have already moved the parking 1690 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,840 lot and put up the SWP3 wall 1691 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,840 and they're clearing the right 1692 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,840 away in anticipation of this 1693 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,840 ready to let of June 23. 1694 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,840 And by the time we get to that 1695 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,840 point we'll have this thing 1696 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:19,840 completely funded. 1697 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,840 We currently have 62. 1698 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,840 Right now it says that it's 77 1699 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,840 and the reason it's 77 is 1700 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:31,840 because we have to add in 4% 1701 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,840 per year for the let year so 1702 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,840 it's 4, 8, 12% but as we get 1703 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,840 closer to June 23 and actually 1704 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,840 let the project that dollar will 1705 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,840 go down consistent with what we 1706 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:48,840 believe the actual price is. 1707 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,840 Next project is the Dallas 1708 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,840 Center Improvements. 1709 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,840 This was the project where we're 1710 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,840 at Calloways and we were having 1711 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,840 some issues with traffic 1712 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,840 conflicts coming out of 1713 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,840 Calloways parking lot trying to 1714 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,840 get to the northbound 1715 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:05,840 furniture. 1716 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,840 City staff worked with TxDOT 1717 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,840 area office, put up those 1718 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,840 bollards and we think it's 1719 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,840 working pretty well right now 1720 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,840 and so we'll -- this project 1721 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,840 will stay on for a couple more 1722 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,840 iterations until we make sure 1723 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,840 that there's nothing else we 1724 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,840 need to do and then if we think 1725 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,840 we're good, we'll pull this off 1726 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,840 the report as well. 1727 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:29,840 Okay. 1728 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,840 35E, 35, 35W merge. 1729 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,840 This is the two 35s in Denton 1730 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,840 and then all the way up to 77. 1731 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,840 This project, again, is fully 1732 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:40,840 funded. 1733 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,840 The difference between the two 1734 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,840 prices is the inflation that 1735 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,840 will come down as we move closer 1736 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:47,840 to let date. 1737 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,840 The last parcel that was needed 1738 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,840 to get to Denton was TxDOT. 1739 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,840 We had a contract that City of 1740 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,840 Denton, Denton County had to 1741 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,840 execute with TxDOT. 1742 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,840 That happened last week and we 1743 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,840 hand carried that contract to 1744 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,840 TxDOT and so all the right 1745 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,840 away is acquired and they are 1746 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,840 now moving into the utility 1747 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,840 relocation phase and there are 1748 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,840 significant coordination that 1749 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,840 is required for City of Denton 1750 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,840 and TxDOT in this corridor 1751 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,840 because the city has both -- 1752 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,840 TxDOT and TME and we were 1753 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,840 meeting regularly with TxDOT 1754 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,840 on accommodating those 1755 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,840 utilities with minimal impact 1756 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,840 to both the utility provider 1757 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,840 and adjacent property owners. 1758 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,840 And again, it's got a ready to 1759 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,840 let of June 22. 1760 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,840 For those that are new to the 1761 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:37,840 committee, the difference 1762 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,840 between the ready to let and the 1763 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,840 let date, the ready to let is 1764 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,840 when all of the environmental 1765 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,840 work is done, the right away is 1766 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,840 complete and utilities are 1767 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,840 ready to let when they come to 1768 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,840 their -- that particular year. 1769 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,840 January 25 is an administrative 1770 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:54,840 date. 1771 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,840 It's outside the four-year 1772 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:57,840 period. 1773 00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,840 But when we get the project 1774 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,840 ready to let in June 22, these 1775 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,840 dollars are already available 1776 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,840 and will be moved up to the June 1777 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:11,840 22 let date. 1778 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,840 So this project includes this 1779 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,840 area from the merge to 3/8, but 1780 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,840 in the interim we've got so much 1781 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,840 trauma associated with the merge 1782 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,840 and the traffic trying to get to 1783 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,840 3/8 that City didn't work with, 1784 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,840 TxDOT, and this only shows the 1785 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,840 northern half of the exhibit 1786 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,840 because if we tried to show the 1787 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,840 whole exhibit, you wouldn't be 1788 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,840 able to see anything because 1789 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,840 it would be too small. 1790 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,840 But it's in reverse on the 1791 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:39,840 backside. 1792 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,840 So right now you have an off 1793 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,840 ramp that's right here that 1794 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,840 comes right onto the frontage 1795 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:46,840 road. 1796 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,840 If you want to install an on 1797 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,840 ramp out, install an on ramp, 1798 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,840 add pavement to the northbound 1799 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,840 portion of the frontage road to 1800 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,840 have a larger turning bay for 1801 00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,840 the right turn lane, add 1802 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,840 additional lane for the U-turn, 1803 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,840 pull the nose of the 1804 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,840 intersection, make some changes 1805 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,840 there because currently right 1806 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,840 now you've got a U-turn, a left 1807 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,840 turn lane, a dual left and then 1808 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:16,840 a straight. 1809 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,840 And what we're going to do is 1810 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,840 have two dual lefts and two 1811 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:21,840 through when we're done. 1812 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,840 So you'll have four vehicles be 1813 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:24,840 able to go through the 1814 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,840 intersection at the same time 1815 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:27,840 while not blocking your right 1816 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:28,840 turn lane. 1817 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:29,840 So we'll put more traffic 1818 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:30,840 through the intersection. 1819 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,840 And on the southern part, we 1820 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,840 will take the on ramp and make 1821 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,840 it an off ramp so that if you 1822 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,840 want to get to 3/8, you'll exit 1823 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,840 just further south from this 1824 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:42,840 intersection and run the 1825 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:43,840 frontage road. 1826 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:44,840 In between those two ramps, 1827 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,840 we'll add an auxiliary lane 1828 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:47,840 between the ramps on the main 1829 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:48,840 lanes so there will be more 1830 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:49,840 capacity there. 1831 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,840 And we believe that this will 1832 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,840 alleviate the congestion that's 1833 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:55,840 there currently. 1834 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,840 And the plan is to let the 1835 00:52:58,840 --> 00:52:59,840 project this July. 1836 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,840 And we believe that we'll get 1837 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,840 it done by January or maybe a 1838 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:04,840 little bit earlier because it's 1839 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:05,840 mostly just maintenance. 1840 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,840 So by the end of the year, 1841 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,840 hopefully we'll have this issue 1842 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:11,840 resolved. 1843 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,840 That $2.3 million was money 1844 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:14,840 that came from TechSite's 1845 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:15,840 maintenance. 1846 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,840 So all we had to do was provide 1847 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,840 the problem and TechSite 1848 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,840 provided the solution. 1849 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,840 >> January 22, it's on my 1850 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:25,840 calendar, Sean. 1851 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:26,840 >> Okay. 1852 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:27,840 Absolutely. 1853 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:28,840 All right. 1854 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,840 Further to the north, it's a 1855 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,840 smaller picture because it's a 1856 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:34,840 lot larger. 1857 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,840 This is a $800 million job that 1858 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,840 will again is ready in March of 1859 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,840 2023 and when it's ready it will 1860 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:42,840 go. 1861 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:43,840 It takes it from the previous 1862 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,840 job of '77 all the way to the 1863 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:46,840 county line. 1864 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,840 It's going from the four-lane 1865 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,840 facility to a six-lane urban 1866 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,840 with continuous frontage roads. 1867 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,840 We're in the process of working 1868 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,840 on the utility, coordination 1869 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,840 with significant providers, and 1870 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,840 we are in the process of 1871 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:04,840 completing right-of-way 1872 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:05,840 acquisition. 1873 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:06,840 We should be done in a couple 1874 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:07,840 of months. 1875 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,840 And again, this project is fully 1876 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:10,840 in our interest. 1877 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:11,840 It's a lot of fun. 1878 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:12,840 It's a lot of fun. 1879 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:13,840 It's a lot of fun. 1880 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:14,840 It's a lot of fun. 1881 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:15,840 It's a lot of fun. 1882 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:16,840 It's a lot of fun. 1883 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:17,840 It's a lot of fun. 1884 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:18,840 It's a lot of fun. 1885 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:19,840 It's a lot of fun. 1886 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:20,840 It's a lot of fun. 1887 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:21,840 It's a lot of fun. 1888 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:22,840 It's a lot of fun. 1889 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:23,840 It's a lot of fun. 1890 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:24,840 It's a lot of fun. 1891 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:25,840 It's a lot of fun. 1892 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:26,840 It's a lot of fun. 1893 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:27,840 It's a lot of fun. 1894 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:28,840 It's a lot of fun. 1895 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:29,840 It's a lot of fun. 1896 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:30,840 It's a lot of fun. 1897 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:31,840 It's a lot of fun. 1898 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:32,840 It's a lot of fun. 1899 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:33,840 It's a lot of fun. 1900 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:41,840 It's a lot of fun. 1901 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:42,840 It's a lot of fun. 1902 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:43,840 It's a lot of fun. 1903 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:44,840 It's a lot of fun. 1904 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:45,840 It's a lot of fun. 1905 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:46,840 It's a lot of fun. 1906 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:47,840 It's a lot of fun. 1907 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:48,840 It's a lot of fun. 1908 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:49,840 It's a lot of fun. 1909 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:50,840 It's a lot of fun. 1910 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,840 It's a lot of fun. 1911 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:52,840 It's a lot of fun. 1912 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:53,840 It's a lot of fun. 1913 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:54,840 It's a lot of fun. 1914 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:55,840 It's a lot of fun. 1915 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:56,840 It's a lot of fun. 1916 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:57,840 It's a lot of fun. 1917 00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:58,840 It's a lot of fun. 1918 00:54:58,840 --> 00:54:59,840 It's a lot of fun. 1919 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:00,840 It's a lot of fun. 1920 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:01,840 It's a lot of fun. 1921 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:02,840 It's a lot of fun. 1922 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:03,840 It's a lot of fun. 1923 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:04,840 It's a lot of fun. 1924 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:05,840 It's a lot of fun. 1925 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:06,840 It's a lot of fun. 1926 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:07,840 It's a lot of fun. 1927 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:08,840 It's a lot of fun. 1928 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:09,840 It's a lot of fun. 1929 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:10,840 It's a lot of fun. 1930 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:11,840 It's a lot of fun. 1931 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:12,840 It's a lot of fun. 1932 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:13,840 It's a lot of fun. 1933 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:14,840 It's a lot of fun. 1934 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:15,840 It's a lot of fun. 1935 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:16,840 It's a lot of fun. 1936 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:17,840 It's a lot of fun. 1937 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:18,840 It's a lot of fun. 1938 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:19,840 It's a lot of fun. 1939 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:20,840 It's a lot of fun. 1940 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:21,840 It's a lot of fun. 1941 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:22,840 It's a lot of fun. 1942 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:23,840 It's a lot of fun. 1943 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:24,840 It's a lot of fun. 1944 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:25,840 It's a lot of fun. 1945 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:26,840 It's a lot of fun. 1946 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:34,840 It's a lot of fun. 1947 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:35,840 It's a lot of fun. 1948 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:36,840 It's a lot of fun. 1949 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:37,840 It's a lot of fun. 1950 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:38,840 It's a lot of fun. 1951 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:39,840 It's a lot of fun. 1952 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:40,840 It's a lot of fun. 1953 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:41,840 It's a lot of fun. 1954 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:42,840 It's a lot of fun. 1955 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:43,840 It's a lot of fun. 1956 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:44,840 It's a lot of fun. 1957 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:45,840 It's a lot of fun. 1958 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:46,840 It's a lot of fun. 1959 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:47,840 It's a lot of fun. 1960 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:48,840 It's a lot of fun. 1961 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:49,840 It's a lot of fun. 1962 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:50,840 It's a lot of fun. 1963 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:51,840 It's a lot of fun. 1964 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:52,840 It's a lot of fun. 1965 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:53,840 It's a lot of fun. 1966 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:54,840 It's a lot of fun. 1967 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:55,840 It's a lot of fun. 1968 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:56,840 It's a lot of fun. 1969 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:57,840 It's a lot of fun. 1970 00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:58,840 It's a lot of fun. 1971 00:55:58,840 --> 00:55:59,840 It's a lot of fun. 1972 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:00,840 It's a lot of fun. 1973 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:01,840 It's a lot of fun. 1974 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:02,840 It's a lot of fun. 1975 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:03,840 It's a lot of fun. 1976 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:04,840 It's a lot of fun. 1977 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:05,840 It's a lot of fun. 1978 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:06,840 It's a lot of fun. 1979 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:07,840 It's a lot of fun. 1980 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:08,840 It's a lot of fun. 1981 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:09,840 It's a lot of fun. 1982 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:10,840 It's a lot of fun. 1983 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:11,840 It's a lot of fun. 1984 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:12,840 It's a lot of fun. 1985 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:13,840 It's a lot of fun. 1986 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:14,840 It's a lot of fun. 1987 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:15,840 It's a lot of fun. 1988 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:16,840 It's a lot of fun. 1989 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:17,840 It's a lot of fun. 1990 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:18,840 It's a lot of fun. 1991 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:19,840 It's a lot of fun. 1992 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:25,840 It's a lot of fun. 1993 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:26,840 It's a lot of fun. 1994 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:27,840 It's a lot of fun. 1995 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:28,840 It's a lot of fun. 1996 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:29,840 It's a lot of fun. 1997 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:30,840 It's a lot of fun. 1998 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:31,840 It's a lot of fun. 1999 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:32,840 It's a lot of fun. 2000 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:33,840 It's a lot of fun. 2001 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:34,840 It's a lot of fun. 2002 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:35,840 It's a lot of fun. 2003 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:36,840 It's a lot of fun. 2004 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:37,840 It's a lot of fun. 2005 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:38,840 It's a lot of fun. 2006 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:39,840 It's a lot of fun. 2007 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:40,840 It's a lot of fun. 2008 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:41,840 It's a lot of fun. 2009 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:42,840 It's a lot of fun. 2010 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:43,840 It's a lot of fun. 2011 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:44,840 It's a lot of fun. 2012 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:45,840 It's a lot of fun. 2013 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:46,840 It's a lot of fun. 2014 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:47,840 It's a lot of fun. 2015 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:48,840 It's a lot of fun. 2016 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:49,840 It's a lot of fun. 2017 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:50,840 It's a lot of fun. 2018 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:51,840 It's a lot of fun. 2019 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:52,840 It's a lot of fun. 2020 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:53,840 It's a lot of fun. 2021 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:54,840 It's a lot of fun. 2022 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:55,840 It's a lot of fun. 2023 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:56,840 It's a lot of fun. 2024 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:57,840 It's a lot of fun. 2025 00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:58,840 It's a lot of fun. 2026 00:56:58,840 --> 00:56:59,840 It's a lot of fun. 2027 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:00,840 It's a lot of fun. 2028 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:01,840 It's a lot of fun. 2029 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:02,840 It's a lot of fun. 2030 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:03,840 It's a lot of fun. 2031 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:04,840 It's a lot of fun. 2032 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:05,840 It's a lot of fun. 2033 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:06,840 It's a lot of fun. 2034 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:07,840 It's a lot of fun. 2035 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:08,840 It's a lot of fun. 2036 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:09,840 It's a lot of fun. 2037 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:10,840 It's a lot of fun. 2038 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:11,840 It's a lot of fun. 2039 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:12,840 It's a lot of fun. 2040 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:20,840 It's a lot of fun. 2041 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:21,840 It's a lot of fun. 2042 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:22,840 It's a lot of fun. 2043 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:23,840 It's a lot of fun. 2044 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:24,840 It's a lot of fun. 2045 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:25,840 It's a lot of fun. 2046 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:26,840 It's a lot of fun. 2047 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:27,840 It's a lot of fun. 2048 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:28,840 It's a lot of fun. 2049 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:29,840 It's a lot of fun. 2050 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:30,840 It's a lot of fun. 2051 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:31,840 It's a lot of fun. 2052 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:32,840 It's a lot of fun. 2053 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:33,840 It's a lot of fun. 2054 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:34,840 It's a lot of fun. 2055 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:35,840 It's a lot of fun. 2056 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:36,840 It's a lot of fun. 2057 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:37,840 It's a lot of fun. 2058 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:38,840 It's a lot of fun. 2059 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:39,840 It's a lot of fun. 2060 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:40,840 It's a lot of fun. 2061 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:41,840 It's a lot of fun. 2062 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:42,840 It's a lot of fun. 2063 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:43,840 It's a lot of fun. 2064 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:44,840 It's a lot of fun. 2065 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:45,840 It's a lot of fun. 2066 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:46,840 It's a lot of fun. 2067 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:47,840 It's a lot of fun. 2068 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:48,840 It's a lot of fun. 2069 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:49,840 It's a lot of fun. 2070 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:50,840 It's a lot of fun. 2071 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:51,840 It's a lot of fun. 2072 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:52,840 It's a lot of fun. 2073 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:53,840 It's a lot of fun. 2074 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:54,840 It's a lot of fun. 2075 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:55,840 It's a lot of fun. 2076 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:56,840 It's a lot of fun. 2077 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:57,840 It's a lot of fun. 2078 00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:58,840 It's a lot of fun. 2079 00:57:58,840 --> 00:57:59,840 It's a lot of fun. 2080 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:00,840 It's a lot of fun. 2081 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:01,840 It's a lot of fun. 2082 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:02,840 It's a lot of fun. 2083 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:03,840 It's a lot of fun. 2084 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:04,840 It's a lot of fun. 2085 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:05,840 It's a lot of fun. 2086 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:11,840 It's a lot of fun. 2087 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:12,840 It's a lot of fun. 2088 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:13,840 It's a lot of fun. 2089 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:14,840 It's a lot of fun. 2090 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:15,840 It's a lot of fun. 2091 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:16,840 It's a lot of fun. 2092 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:17,840 It's a lot of fun. 2093 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:18,840 It's a lot of fun. 2094 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:19,840 It's a lot of fun. 2095 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:20,840 It's a lot of fun. 2096 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:21,840 It's a lot of fun. 2097 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:22,840 It's a lot of fun. 2098 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:23,840 It's a lot of fun. 2099 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:24,840 It's a lot of fun. 2100 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:25,840 It's a lot of fun. 2101 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:26,840 It's a lot of fun. 2102 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:27,840 It's a lot of fun. 2103 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:28,840 It's a lot of fun. 2104 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:29,840 It's a lot of fun. 2105 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:30,840 It's a lot of fun. 2106 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:31,840 It's a lot of fun. 2107 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:32,840 It's a lot of fun. 2108 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:33,840 It's a lot of fun. 2109 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:34,840 It's a lot of fun. 2110 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:35,840 It's a lot of fun. 2111 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:36,840 It's a lot of fun. 2112 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:37,840 It's a lot of fun. 2113 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:38,840 It's a lot of fun. 2114 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:39,840 It's a lot of fun. 2115 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:40,840 It's a lot of fun. 2116 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:41,840 It's a lot of fun. 2117 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:42,840 It's a lot of fun. 2118 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:43,840 It's a lot of fun. 2119 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:44,840 It's a lot of fun. 2120 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:45,840 It's a lot of fun. 2121 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:46,840 It's a lot of fun. 2122 00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:47,840 It's a lot of fun. 2123 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:48,840 It's a lot of fun. 2124 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:49,840 It's a lot of fun. 2125 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:50,840 It's a lot of fun. 2126 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:51,840 It's a lot of fun. 2127 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:52,840 It's a lot of fun. 2128 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:53,840 It's a lot of fun. 2129 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:54,840 It's a lot of fun. 2130 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:55,840 It's a lot of fun. 2131 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:56,840 It's a lot of fun. 2132 00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:57,840 It's a lot of fun. 2133 00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:58,840 It's a lot of fun. 2134 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:04,840 It's a lot of fun. 2135 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:05,840 It's a lot of fun. 2136 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:06,840 It's a lot of fun. 2137 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:07,840 It's a lot of fun. 2138 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:08,840 It's a lot of fun. 2139 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:09,840 It's a lot of fun. 2140 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:10,840 It's a lot of fun. 2141 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:11,840 It's a lot of fun. 2142 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:12,840 It's a lot of fun. 2143 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:13,840 It's a lot of fun. 2144 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:14,840 It's a lot of fun. 2145 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:15,840 It's a lot of fun. 2146 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:16,840 It's a lot of fun. 2147 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:17,840 It's a lot of fun. 2148 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:18,840 It's a lot of fun. 2149 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:19,840 It's a lot of fun. 2150 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:20,840 It's a lot of fun. 2151 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:21,840 It's a lot of fun. 2152 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:22,840 It's a lot of fun. 2153 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:23,840 It's a lot of fun. 2154 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:24,840 It's a lot of fun. 2155 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:25,840 It's a lot of fun. 2156 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:26,840 It's a lot of fun. 2157 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:27,840 It's a lot of fun. 2158 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:28,840 It's a lot of fun. 2159 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:29,840 It's a lot of fun. 2160 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:30,840 It's a lot of fun. 2161 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:31,840 It's a lot of fun. 2162 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:32,840 It's a lot of fun. 2163 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:33,840 It's a lot of fun. 2164 00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:34,840 It's a lot of fun. 2165 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:35,840 It's a lot of fun. 2166 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:36,840 It's a lot of fun. 2167 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:37,840 It's a lot of fun. 2168 00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:38,840 It's a lot of fun. 2169 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:39,840 It's a lot of fun. 2170 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:40,840 It's a lot of fun. 2171 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:41,840 It's a lot of fun. 2172 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:42,840 It's a lot of fun. 2173 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:43,840 It's a lot of fun. 2174 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:44,840 It's a lot of fun. 2175 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:45,840 It's a lot of fun. 2176 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:46,840 It's a lot of fun. 2177 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:47,840 It's a lot of fun. 2178 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:48,840 It's a lot of fun. 2179 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:49,840 It's a lot of fun. 2180 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:50,840 It's a lot of fun. 2181 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:51,840 It's a lot of fun. 2182 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:57,840 It's a lot of fun. 2183 00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:58,840 It's a lot of fun. 2184 00:59:58,840 --> 00:59:59,840 It's a lot of fun. 2185 00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:00,840 It's a lot of fun. 2186 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:01,840 It's a lot of fun. 2187 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:02,840 It's a lot of fun. 2188 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:03,840 It's a lot of fun. 2189 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:04,840 It's a lot of fun. 2190 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:05,840 It's a lot of fun. 2191 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:06,840 It's a lot of fun. 2192 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:07,840 It's a lot of fun. 2193 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:08,840 It's a lot of fun. 2194 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:09,840 It's a lot of fun. 2195 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:10,840 It's a lot of fun. 2196 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:11,840 It's a lot of fun. 2197 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:12,840 It's a lot of fun. 2198 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:13,840 It's a lot of fun. 2199 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:14,840 It's a lot of fun. 2200 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:15,840 It's a lot of fun. 2201 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:16,840 It's a lot of fun. 2202 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:17,840 It's a lot of fun. 2203 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:18,840 It's a lot of fun. 2204 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:19,840 It's a lot of fun. 2205 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:20,840 It's a lot of fun. 2206 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:21,840 It's a lot of fun. 2207 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:22,840 It's a lot of fun. 2208 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:23,840 It's a lot of fun. 2209 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:24,840 It's a lot of fun. 2210 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:25,840 It's a lot of fun. 2211 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:26,840 It's a lot of fun. 2212 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:27,840 It's a lot of fun. 2213 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:28,840 It's a lot of fun. 2214 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:29,840 It's a lot of fun. 2215 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:30,840 It's a lot of fun. 2216 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:31,840 It's a lot of fun. 2217 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:32,840 It's a lot of fun. 2218 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:33,840 It's a lot of fun. 2219 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:34,840 It's a lot of 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01:09:57,840 It's a lot of fun. 2720 01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:58,840 It's a lot of fun. 2721 01:09:58,840 --> 01:09:59,840 It's a lot of fun. 2722 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:00,840 It's a lot of fun. 2723 01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:01,840 It's a lot of fun. 2724 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:02,840 It's a lot of fun. 2725 01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,840 It's a lot of fun. 2726 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:06,840 Yeah. 2727 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,840 I'm certain that's going to get a lot of community focus, 2728 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:11,840 that very question. 2729 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:15,840 And then also we're passing fairly lightly 2730 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:19,840 over the cut of four routes. 2731 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:26,840 I think that might need a little more explanation to the public 2732 01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,840 because that's not obviously a good thing. 2733 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,840 Why wouldn't you test your way into that as well? 2734 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,840 We originally presented a proposal 2735 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:40,840 to the board that was more of a baby steps approach 2736 01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:47,840 that even Bia's original proposal to the RFP 2737 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,840 was a very kind of what I would consider like a baby steps 2738 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:51,840 approach. 2739 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,840 It was kind of testing in certain areas, 2740 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:58,840 keeping certain at least half of the fixed routes. 2741 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:03,840 And through board discussion, and then we also 2742 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,840 had board workshops with each of our member cities 2743 01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:10,840 as well as their representative on our board, 2744 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:14,840 that is how this final service plan came to exist. 2745 01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:19,840 So everything that has been built on that first pass 2746 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,840 of a service plan has been through board and member city 2747 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,840 discussion. 2748 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,840 Well, if you take an input, my input would be they made a mistake. 2749 01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,840 Seriously, I would say test your way in. 2750 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:33,840 You might end up in the same place, 2751 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,840 but you're going to be a lot more confident 2752 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,840 that you're serving the public better by doing it. 2753 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,840 And that really speaks to the public involvement process. 2754 01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,840 That is why this is so important. 2755 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,840 This is why we extended the public involvement process 2756 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,840 to be much longer than it normally would be. 2757 01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,840 I mean, it runs April 19 to June 25. 2758 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,840 We wanted to make sure that we were out in the community giving 2759 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,840 this presentation, having these conversations, 2760 01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:01,840 so that we are collecting stakeholder, passenger, 2761 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,840 organizational feedback, and then our responsibility 2762 01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:06,840 is to take that feedback back to the board. 2763 01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,840 And if that feedback indicates that we need to make modifications 2764 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,840 to this plan, then it's our responsibility 2765 01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,840 to make modifications to the plan based on this feedback. 2766 01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:16,840 And so that's why it's so important. 2767 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:18,840 I know throughout this process, we hear quite a bit of, 2768 01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:20,840 well, what are you going to do with my comment? 2769 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:21,840 Does my voice really matter? 2770 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,840 Well, your voice really does matter because, you know, 2771 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,840 we take your feedback into account before there 2772 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,840 is a final service plan that is taken to our board 2773 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,840 for consideration. 2774 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,840 - Sure hope so. 2775 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:35,840 Council Member Ritter, you look like you have 2776 01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,840 something you want to say. 2777 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:38,840 - I'm just kind of nodding along. 2778 01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,840 I think these are good points. 2779 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,840 Yeah, good. 2780 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:44,840 Thank you. 2781 01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:45,840 - All right. 2782 01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:46,840 - Sure. 2783 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:47,840 - All right. 2784 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:48,840 - Okay. 2785 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:54,840 I'm starting to get really good at this, y'all. 2786 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:55,840 Okay. 2787 01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,840 So as we look at Lewisville Connect bus service, 2788 01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,840 all of the Lewisville fixed routes are going away, 2789 01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,840 and that's routes 21 and 22. 2790 01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,840 And they'll be replaced with the GOZONE service. 2791 01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,840 And again, that was at the direction of our Lewisville 2792 01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:10,840 representative on the DCTA board, 2793 01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,840 as well as the city of themselves. 2794 01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,840 And then we have several on-demand zones. 2795 01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,840 So we've got the Lewisville Lakeway on-demand zone 2796 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,840 that we operate. 2797 01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,840 We have the Highland Village lift zone 2798 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:22,840 that's operated by Lyft. 2799 01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:24,840 And then we have the Denton Evening on-demand zone 2800 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,840 that we operate ourselves as well. 2801 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,840 Those three zones will just be replaced by GOZONE. 2802 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,840 Very similar booking process, very similar service. 2803 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,840 We do have an on-demand zone through coordination 2804 01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:38,840 with the city of Lewisville that is serviced from Lewisville 2805 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,840 to Flower Mound via Lyft. 2806 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,840 That service has had very, very low ridership. 2807 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:49,840 And the city of Lewisville has asked us to remove that zone. 2808 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,840 As we look at our support services, 2809 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,840 we have North Texas Express, 2810 01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,840 which is a route that runs from Denton to Alliance 2811 01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:58,840 and then connects with Trinity Metro's portion 2812 01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,840 of the same service, which can get passengers to Fort Worth. 2813 01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:05,840 The city of Denton, during our roundtable discussion 2814 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,840 to formulate the plan, 2815 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:11,840 requested that we remove that portion of the route. 2816 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,840 So that will be completely removed 2817 01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,840 and pending public feedback 2818 01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,840 and not replaced with the GOZONE. 2819 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,840 Now, we recognize that there are still service needs there. 2820 01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:24,840 And so DCTA will continue to kind of look at 2821 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,840 what is an effective way to provide service 2822 01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,840 and provide that connection between Denton and Alliance. 2823 01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:36,840 MK101 is our service that operates between Monsignor King 2824 01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:38,840 and our Daily Bread. 2825 01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:40,840 It operates in the morning, six days a week, 2826 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,840 or it's moving to six days a week. 2827 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:47,840 The original recommendation was that it be replaced with GOZONE. 2828 01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,840 However, we have an item on our board agenda next week 2829 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,840 to specifically talk about that and get board direction. 2830 01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:54,840 And we believe that our board will keep 2831 01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,840 that small mini route in place. 2832 01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:59,840 As we mentioned, our access service 2833 01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:01,840 would remain the same until Phase 2A 2834 01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,840 and our vanpool program would remain the same. 2835 01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:06,840 We also have contract services. 2836 01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,840 So Collin County, Coppell, Frisco, 2837 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,840 all of those services would stay the same. 2838 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:15,840 UNT shuttle services, the UNT shuttle would remain the same. 2839 01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,840 The UNT late night lift program would remain the same. 2840 01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,840 The only difference right now is that students, faculty, 2841 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:25,840 and staff would be required to provide appropriate fair media 2842 01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,840 for their trips on GOZONE. 2843 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,840 Currently, they ride Connect bus service 2844 01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,840 with their university ID for free. 2845 01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:34,840 I will say that DCTA is in the middle 2846 01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,840 of having conversations with UNT leadership 2847 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:39,840 and the UNT transportation department 2848 01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:41,840 about how to reallocate the Connect access fee 2849 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,840 that they pay on an annual basis for that benefit 2850 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,840 to reallocate it to the benefit of students, faculty, and staff. 2851 01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,840 So we just don't have a final answer on that yet. 2852 01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,840 And then again, much like we covered in the Phase 1 add-ons, 2853 01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,840 we're providing new areas of coverage 2854 01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:58,840 that we haven't provided today. 2855 01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:00,840 So we're extending hours on Saturday, 2856 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,840 adding the Sunday service, expanding the Denton zone 2857 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,840 into Denia, and then extending the Lewisville zone 2858 01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:11,840 into the Business 121 North Zone as well as Castleville. 2859 01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,840 I've talked a lot about the feedback process 2860 01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:15,840 and really just how important it is. 2861 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,840 Again, that's why we extended the public feedback process. 2862 01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:20,840 That's why you will probably see me giving presentations 2863 01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,840 all over town. 2864 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,840 I think to date we've done something like 18 events 2865 01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,840 and like eight presentations. 2866 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,840 We are slated to come and speak to the Denton City Council 2867 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,840 on June 8th to go through this presentation as well 2868 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:38,840 and answer any questions that the council might have. 2869 01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,840 But we're really looking for specific feedback on the service. 2870 01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:45,840 And it's not just the service itself, but it's the fair structure, 2871 01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,840 any general thoughts, any questions. 2872 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,840 We have set up a microsite that's dedicated 2873 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,840 to kind of walking people through the service. 2874 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:56,840 It's at dctfeedback.net. 2875 01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,840 We are--all of the questions that come in through that site 2876 01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,840 and then any questions that come in like via email or social media, 2877 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,840 we have committed to a 24-hour turn to respond to those questions 2878 01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:10,840 and we have been meeting that KPI. 2879 01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,840 So, you know, we just--we recognize that people 2880 01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,840 have very specific needs, right? 2881 01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,840 So one person might have very differing needs 2882 01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:20,840 than another person. 2883 01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:22,840 And so we want to be able to have those one-on-one conversations 2884 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,840 and collect feedback. 2885 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,840 And that means feedback that's negative, that's positive, 2886 01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:28,840 that's neutral. 2887 01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,840 You know, I always tell people, don't shy away from just giving us 2888 01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:32,840 your true feedback. 2889 01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,840 - Can I ask a question about the presentations, 2890 01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,840 if you can take that one? - Absolutely. 2891 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:38,840 - Just for a moment, thanks. - Sure. 2892 01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,840 - Have you had or is there a planned presentation 2893 01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:47,840 to our, you know, one or more of our interconnected 2894 01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:53,840 local nonprofits that serve people experiencing homelessness? 2895 01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:55,840 Have you done that yet? 2896 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,840 - Absolutely. 2897 01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,840 So we have--I had preliminary conversations specifically 2898 01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,840 with United Way and Salvation Army 2899 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:08,840 and very early on upfront conversations. 2900 01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,840 DCTA hosts a quarterly social service agency roundtable. 2901 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,840 And so last quarter we presented this information 2902 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,840 at a very, very high level, knowing that we had more details. 2903 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,840 This week we're actually hosting the Lewis Bell 2904 01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:25,840 and the Denton social service agency roundtables. 2905 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,840 And so this presentation is being shared 2906 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:28,840 with both of those groups. 2907 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,840 We have really good participation. 2908 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,840 We also keep track of the organizations that are attending 2909 01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,840 and any organizations from our list that did not attend 2910 01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:38,840 we are reaching out to directly to either make sure 2911 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,840 that we offer the presentation to them 2912 01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,840 or that we send them the presentation so that they're aware. 2913 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:45,840 - Okay, yeah, thank you. 2914 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:50,840 And I think it'd be great, you know, there are a number-- 2915 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,840 or there are, you know, several other, you know, 2916 01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,840 organizations in Denton, you know, specifically 2917 01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,840 Our Daily Bread, MN Senior King, 2918 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,840 which are now--they're uniting as Bread to Junction, 2919 01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,840 which I know you know about. 2920 01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,840 But, you know, it's not going to be up and running 2921 01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:09,840 until later next year. 2922 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,840 So, you know, it would be great to present 2923 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:16,840 and I can, you know, reach out to Our Daily Bread. 2924 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,840 You know, even to have--I can imagine a presentation 2925 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:27,840 at Our Daily Bread where not only the people who work 2926 01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:31,840 at that, you know, nonprofit, but also the people who use it, 2927 01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,840 the people who go there to eat, you know, 2928 01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,840 could ask questions and you could get their feedback. 2929 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:38,840 - Yeah, absolutely. 2930 01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,840 So we've been working with Wendy McGee 2931 01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,840 specifically about--well, one, MK101. 2932 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,840 I speak with her regularly about that. 2933 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,840 And then she also participates in our Social Service Agency 2934 01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,840 roundtables, but I've also been having one-on-one conversations. 2935 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:55,840 But I'll definitely have our staff reach out 2936 01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,840 and see if they would be interested in a presentation 2937 01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:59,840 to their constituents. 2938 01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:01,840 And we have varying presentations, 2939 01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,840 so we try to tailor our presentation to the group. 2940 01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:06,840 And so we've identified some specific questions 2941 01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,840 that organizations like that might have. 2942 01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:11,840 And so it would be a slightly altered presentation 2943 01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,840 to what you've seen today. 2944 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:15,840 - Thank you. 2945 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,840 - Absolutely. 2946 01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,840 So that ends my presentation. 2947 01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,840 I am happy to answer any questions that you have. 2948 01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,840 And if I don't have an answer, I will commit to getting it 2949 01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,840 and getting that answer back to you. 2950 01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:30,840 - I have oodles. 2951 01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:32,840 I'm sure Councilmember Armitage does as well. 2952 01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:36,840 You want to go ahead? 2953 01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,840 - Sure, yeah. 2954 01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,840 So let's see. 2955 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,840 So people who are, you know, 2956 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,840 currently experiencing homelessness, 2957 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,840 who are, you know, given the, you know, 2958 01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,840 current really lack of a place to go 2959 01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:58,840 between the time when Our Daily Bread is closed 2960 01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:02,840 and, you know, Monsignor King and Salvation Army, 2961 01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:06,840 you know, open their doors, especially Monsignor King. 2962 01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:10,840 And this is a gap that'll go away, this gap in time, 2963 01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,840 once we've got the, or at least for some people, 2964 01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,840 next year, once we've got this, you know, 2965 01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,840 24-hour, 365 place where people can go. 2966 01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,840 But I know that people experiencing homelessness 2967 01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:29,840 not only use DCTA to get from point A to point B, 2968 01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,840 but sometimes just to kind of ride around 2969 01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,840 and to be in a place that's protected and safe. 2970 01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:37,840 And, you know, that's not ideal. 2971 01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,840 That's not the purpose of transportation. 2972 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,840 But, you know, but I'm wondering, 2973 01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:45,840 you know, what kind of, what's, 2974 01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,840 have you given any thought to that 2975 01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:50,840 and how that's going to be affected? 2976 01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,840 You know, will they be, you know, 2977 01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:57,840 do you think that's going to move on to the UNT routes, 2978 01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,840 which I hear, you know, 2979 01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:05,840 people sometimes already use it for that purpose. 2980 01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,840 Just wondering if you've had kind of thoughts on that 2981 01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,840 or, you know, from the nonprofit providers, 2982 01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:15,840 you know, any kind of concerns about how that might be affected 2983 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,840 or increased by this change. 2984 01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,840 Sure. So, yes, that does happen. 2985 01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,840 DCTA's policy states that a passenger 2986 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:26,840 can make one full round trip, 2987 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,840 so origin back to origin. 2988 01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,840 And if they stay on the vehicle to do another round trip, 2989 01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,840 that we do ask them to de-board, 2990 01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:37,840 simply because we need to, you know, 2991 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:39,840 make sure that there's capacity right now 2992 01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:42,840 with social distancing for everybody that is on board. 2993 01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:44,840 So that is our policy. 2994 01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:46,840 I'm not saying that it's always adhered to, 2995 01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:48,840 but that is our policy. 2996 01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:52,840 We have asked this specific question to VIA to say, 2997 01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:54,840 you know, what have you done in other service areas? 2998 01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,840 Like, we see this on our fixed route service. 2999 01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,840 How do you address it? 3000 01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,840 We have talked to some of their partners about it as well. 3001 01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,840 And they have all reported 3002 01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,840 that it doesn't occur on GoZone. 3003 01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:09,840 And the reason being is, I think, 3004 01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,840 because it's a much smaller vehicle than a large bus 3005 01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:16,840 where you might remain anonymous sitting in the back row. 3006 01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,840 But in a vehicle that holds six individuals, 3007 01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:21,840 you're less likely to remain anonymous. 3008 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,840 In talking with the social service agencies, 3009 01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,840 specifically United Way and Salvation Army, 3010 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:32,840 they felt like this transition would actually be a benefit 3011 01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,840 to their clientele 3012 01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,840 simply because it's a more direct service 3013 01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,840 to get where they need to go. 3014 01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,840 We do work with all of the social service agencies 3015 01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:45,840 and provide discounted tickets. 3016 01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,840 So many of the people that are riding 3017 01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,840 are getting their passes directly from an agency. 3018 01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:52,840 And so we would continue to do that, 3019 01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:54,840 and they would have access to GoZone 3020 01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,840 the same way that they have access to connect fixed route today. 3021 01:23:57,840 --> 01:23:58,840 Thank you. 3022 01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,840 And so that makes sense that, you know, 3023 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,840 the GoZone would be less likely to be used in this way. 3024 01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:07,840 I'm wondering if, you know, 3025 01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,840 because the UNT routes are remaining, 3026 01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,840 will those routes be-- 3027 01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,840 are you imagining and seeing an increase 3028 01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:23,840 in usage of UNT routes for that purpose? 3029 01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,840 I mean, that's something that we will definitely monitor. 3030 01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,840 But again, if somebody is getting onto a vehicle 3031 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,840 and they tend to kind of finding a shelter, 3032 01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,840 a place to shelter from the weather or whatnot, 3033 01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,840 our policy states, again, one full trip around the sun, 3034 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,840 you know, and then that individual would be asked to de-board. 3035 01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:45,840 I would also say that, you know, 3036 01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:49,840 we are continually working with the United Way and Salvation Army, 3037 01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:51,840 Monsignor King, our Daily Bread. 3038 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:53,840 We're in constant communication with them. 3039 01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,840 And, you know, DCTA stands ready to kind of serve 3040 01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,840 when we do have those inclement weather situations. 3041 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,840 We partner with the City of Denton. 3042 01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,840 And, you know, when the weather does get super high 3043 01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,840 and, you know, extend past the threshold, 3044 01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,840 that we do and we still would send out large buses 3045 01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:12,840 to kind of bus people to a place 3046 01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:14,840 where they can shelter that's climate controlled. 3047 01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:18,840 So those type of services would still remain in place. 3048 01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,840 Okay, yeah. Good. Thank you. 3049 01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:26,840 And can you speak to the fees for-- 3050 01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:31,840 what the fees will be for the-- for students? 3051 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:35,840 So currently we have-- we're not final on that. 3052 01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,840 So we are working very closely with UNT leadership 3053 01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:40,840 and the UNT Transportation Department. 3054 01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,840 So students ride the shuttle for free 3055 01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,840 through their transportation fee that they pay with their tuition. 3056 01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,840 So that would remain the same. That does not change at all. 3057 01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:54,840 UNT pays DCTA an annual, what we call, connect access fee. 3058 01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,840 And that is what allows UNT students, faculty, 3059 01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,840 and staff to ride our connect services for free. 3060 01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,840 We are working with UNT Transportation Department 3061 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,840 to reallocate that connect access fee 3062 01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,840 so that students do have access to these services 3063 01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,840 for, you know, for free of charge or maybe even a reduced fare. 3064 01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,840 We don't have a final answer right now. 3065 01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:17,840 We're waiting to hear back from the university in June 3066 01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,840 about what their-- what their on-campus, 3067 01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,840 you know, numbers are going to look like 3068 01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:27,840 that would then help us kind of project ridership and whatnot. 3069 01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:29,840 You know, if they're back to kind of pre-COVID levels, 3070 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,840 then we need to kind of readjust our service delivery. 3071 01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:34,840 But we are having conversations with them regularly 3072 01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:36,840 to address this question. 3073 01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,840 Okay. Thank you. I'm just going to call more. 3074 01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:47,840 If-- can you name, you know, one or more cities 3075 01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:50,840 that have-- currently have programs 3076 01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:55,840 that are as close as you can think of to the program 3077 01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,840 you're-- that you're talking about now. 3078 01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:00,840 Sure. 3079 01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:02,840 I know it's unique, you know, but-- 3080 01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:04,840 Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. 3081 01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:06,840 And I can actually send over a list after the meeting. 3082 01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:08,840 I can provide a little bit more detail as well. 3083 01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:12,840 But King County Metro is definitely-- 3084 01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:14,840 and I believe that that's in Atlanta. 3085 01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:16,840 I don't want to jinx myself. 3086 01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:18,840 I'm pretty sure-- I'm pretty sure it's in Atlanta. 3087 01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:20,840 King County Metro is a program 3088 01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:22,840 that we've looked at quite extensively. 3089 01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:24,840 But we're also just looking in our neighborhood 3090 01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,840 because it's specific to our landscape. 3091 01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:29,840 Trinity Metro currently partners with them 3092 01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,840 to provide zone-based service. 3093 01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,840 And then the city of Arlington uses them 3094 01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:37,840 as their sole transit program. 3095 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:39,840 And so we've spent quite a bit of time working 3096 01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:41,840 with the city of Arlington as well as Trinity Metro 3097 01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:43,840 to talk about the pros and cons of their programs, 3098 01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:45,840 what they learned through implementation 3099 01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,840 that we could, you know, adjust on the front end 3100 01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,840 so that it's not a speed bump for folks once we launch. 3101 01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:53,840 And so, you know, right in our backyard, 3102 01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:55,840 we have two entities that are using the system 3103 01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:58,840 very successfully. 3104 01:27:58,840 --> 01:27:59,840 Thank you. 3105 01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:01,840 And I will look into, you know, 3106 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,840 those cities and explore that. 3107 01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:07,840 And then my last question is a question 3108 01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:11,840 that might be for city staff, 3109 01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:12,840 but it might also be for you. 3110 01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,840 It's really for whoever can answer it. 3111 01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,840 And it's about the... 3112 01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:20,840 There was a consultant, 3113 01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:24,840 and I'm not sure if she's still working for the city. 3114 01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:29,840 I think, or Brandy something or other, 3115 01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:34,840 and I believe she may be presented to council. 3116 01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:35,840 Is she... 3117 01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,840 And I don't know if she's on this call looking now at 11. 3118 01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,840 But, you know, is she still... 3119 01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:43,840 And she was a consultant, as I remember. 3120 01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:45,840 Correct me if I'm wrong, for the city. 3121 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,840 For DCTA. 3122 01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,840 So I was just wondering if someone from city staff, 3123 01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:51,840 or you, if you know. 3124 01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,840 But again, I assume it would be more of a city staff question. 3125 01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:58,840 And I can speak to, is she still working, 3126 01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:00,840 you know, for the city? 3127 01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:01,840 Is she still working for us? 3128 01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:08,840 What is she doing since she's a city contractor or consultant 3129 01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:10,840 and haven't, you know, seen her at these meetings? 3130 01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:12,840 I'd just be curious to know. 3131 01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,840 So I can't answer that. 3132 01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:17,840 The city of Denton and the city of Lewisville 3133 01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:19,840 do contract with Brandy Bird 3134 01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:21,840 for transportation-related services. 3135 01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,840 As to the scope of work or what she's actively working on, 3136 01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:25,840 I'm not sure. 3137 01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,840 But I can tell you that she does attend 3138 01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,840 all of our board meetings and that she is... 3139 01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:32,840 She attended the roundtables that we held 3140 01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:35,840 with all three of our member cities. 3141 01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:39,840 And so she has been involved in this program 3142 01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:41,840 in developing this service plan 3143 01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,840 as far as consultation to those two cities. 3144 01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:46,840 And so I would love... 3145 01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:48,840 And I'll put this in as a request. 3146 01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:52,840 And her last name is Byrd or B-I-R-D? 3147 01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:53,840 I think it's B-I-R-D. 3148 01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:55,840 B-I-R-D, okay. 3149 01:29:55,840 --> 01:30:00,840 And Brandy, B-R-A-N-D-I or Y? 3150 01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:02,840 I will send you her email. 3151 01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:04,840 I can send you her contact information. 3152 01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:06,840 Okay, that would be great. 3153 01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:09,840 What I would love is that when this comes to council, 3154 01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:16,840 it would be great for her to be there 3155 01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:19,840 and to be able to address council since... 3156 01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,840 And I'm not complaining about your report. 3157 01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:23,840 I'm just thinking... 3158 01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:26,840 And not even instead of you necessarily, 3159 01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:28,840 but at least in addition, 3160 01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:30,840 so that somebody... 3161 01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:31,840 If this is somebody who... 3162 01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:36,840 Because I didn't realize until after she was hired 3163 01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:38,840 that she was working for council 3164 01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,840 and she was the consultant. 3165 01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:42,840 And I'm still exactly not sure kind of what her role is, 3166 01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:46,840 but I would love to hear from her as a consultant for this city, 3167 01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:47,840 apparently for Louisville too, 3168 01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:52,840 but really just in her capacity as consultant for City of Denton. 3169 01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:55,840 I have to say, I've never heard of her. 3170 01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:57,840 I wasn't aware that this person existed. 3171 01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:02,840 Yeah, and I'm trying to remember if she presented to council... 3172 01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:03,840 I'm so bad with names. 3173 01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:05,840 Oh, she did, I really apologize. 3174 01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:09,840 She was on the Denton City Council in January, 3175 01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,840 her and our chair Chris Watts presented to the Denton City Council. 3176 01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:15,840 Yeah, and so, yeah, I would just like... 3177 01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:22,840 If she's still on the contracting with the city, 3178 01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:27,840 I would like to hear from her as a consultant. 3179 01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:28,840 Sure, and I think... 3180 01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:32,840 I'll be ready for the next presentation to council. 3181 01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:36,840 So I believe we confirmed June 8th 3182 01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,840 as a presentation date just yesterday. 3183 01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:44,840 And I did receive an email from Sarah Hensley confirming that 3184 01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:46,840 and we notified our board. 3185 01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,840 And I believe our chair, Chris Watts, 3186 01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:51,840 is interested in doing some of the presentation as well. 3187 01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,840 So I think we just have some components of that to work through, 3188 01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:58,840 but I'll definitely include that in my confirmation back to Sarah. 3189 01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:02,840 I think that request, if she's a employee of the city, 3190 01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:04,840 would go through our staff, 3191 01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:08,840 but I appreciate the assistance. 3192 01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:10,840 Yeah, and thank you, yeah, I agree. 3193 01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:12,840 And can someone from our staff say is she... 3194 01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:13,840 So she is... 3195 01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:18,840 How long will she be in the consultant role? 3196 01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:19,840 Council Member Armitage, 3197 01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,840 I cannot answer the specifics about her contract 3198 01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:24,840 or what she is currently working on. 3199 01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,840 I know she is working on the project that Nicole mentioned 3200 01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:30,840 and I also know that she is working on things 3201 01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:32,840 with the city manager's office, 3202 01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:34,840 but I will pass along your comments 3203 01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:36,840 to the city manager's office 3204 01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:38,840 so that we can coordinate that appropriately 3205 01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:40,840 for the June 8th presentation. 3206 01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:42,840 Okay, that would be great. 3207 01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:45,840 And maybe kind of a Friday report about... 3208 01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:46,840 Here is our... 3209 01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:48,840 I don't know, meet our consultant. 3210 01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:50,840 This is what this person is... 3211 01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,840 This is what this job is. 3212 01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:55,840 I understand it's not a permanent job, 3213 01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,840 but this is what they do. 3214 01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:03,840 I would just love to just have a better sense of that. 3215 01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:05,840 Sure, I can discuss that 3216 01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:07,840 with the city manager's office, no problem. 3217 01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,840 Thanks. 3218 01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:12,840 Anything else? 3219 01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:14,840 Just here for questions. 3220 01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:15,840 Anything else you have? 3221 01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:16,840 Again, I... 3222 01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:17,840 No, I've got mine. 3223 01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:19,840 I just wanted to hear Council Member Armitage 3224 01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,840 say what that's called first. 3225 01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:25,840 So, yeah, thanks for such a thorough presentation 3226 01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:27,840 and for your patience 3227 01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:31,840 and responding to all of our many questions. 3228 01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:33,840 I've got a few. 3229 01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:35,840 One is, how would... 3230 01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:42,840 There's a potential affordable housing complex 3231 01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:44,840 that may go up in the vintage area. 3232 01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:47,840 They've got a resolution of no objection, 3233 01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:48,840 I think, from the city. 3234 01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:50,840 So this is a weight off. 3235 01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:53,840 One of the issues that's been raised by people in the area 3236 01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:59,840 is that that would be served by public transit. 3237 01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:02,840 And I asked if it would be served 3238 01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:05,840 in a contemplated new service, 3239 01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:07,840 and it's not apparently in the service area. 3240 01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:13,840 So how would you go about adding service areas 3241 01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:16,840 to what's currently proposed 3242 01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:18,840 if the need was demonstrated? 3243 01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:21,840 Sure. So the great... 3244 01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:23,840 One of the benefits of this on-demand service 3245 01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:26,840 is the flexibility of the ozone boundary. 3246 01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:28,840 So our planning department stays in contact 3247 01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:30,840 with the planning departments for our three member cities 3248 01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:33,840 and they stay abreast of any new developments 3249 01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:35,840 or any major changes that are going to happen 3250 01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:37,840 that would drive density. 3251 01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:39,840 So not even just living areas, 3252 01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:45,840 but also maybe shopping and new shopping centers 3253 01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:46,840 that might go in 3254 01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:48,840 that we would need to provide service to. 3255 01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,840 And so they feed that information to us 3256 01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:53,840 to say, like, here's the timing 3257 01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:56,840 that this new living area or this new residential area 3258 01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,840 or this new shopping center is going to go into place 3259 01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:03,840 so that we can then plan to see what it would cost 3260 01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:07,840 to expand the zone or to create an island zone 3261 01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:09,840 specifically for that purpose. 3262 01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:11,840 And so we would project, 3263 01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:13,840 we would determine what that plan looked like, 3264 01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:15,840 we would get the pricing models together, 3265 01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:17,840 and then we would take that to our board 3266 01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:19,840 for consideration and approval. 3267 01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:20,840 But that's one of the flexible things 3268 01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:22,840 about the ozone on-demand service 3269 01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:25,840 is that the boundary is very nimble 3270 01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:26,840 and it doesn't take much time 3271 01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:28,840 because they lease the vehicles. 3272 01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:29,840 So to put it into perspective, 3273 01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:31,840 like, a large bus that DCTA purchases 3274 01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:33,840 could take two years to procure. 3275 01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:35,840 Well, because they lease their vehicles, 3276 01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:38,840 they can scale up and scale down very, very easily 3277 01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:40,840 within, like, a couple of weeks. 3278 01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,840 The geography is not dependent on the location of rails, 3279 01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,840 for instance, or overhead wires or anything like that. 3280 01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:49,840 So the key communication 3281 01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:52,840 is our development department to DCTA. 3282 01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:56,840 Yes, and then we have great relationships, yeah. 3283 01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:59,840 Okay, that's very helpful to understand. 3284 01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:03,840 Regarding the case studies that are out there, 3285 01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:05,840 the M-cities that are deployed, 3286 01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:07,840 I'll not make you go through the detail. 3287 01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:11,840 I've heard comments that there are areas 3288 01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:17,840 where it's sort of flipped back to fixed routes later. 3289 01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:20,840 But I imagine you've looked at cases 3290 01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:23,840 that didn't indicate to you that that would be coming. 3291 01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:27,840 But what is the sort of total landscape of the case studies? 3292 01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:31,840 Like, you know, some of the time it flips back, 3293 01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:34,840 most of the time it doesn't or never does? 3294 01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,840 What's your sort of general learning from the case studies? 3295 01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:42,840 Sure, so the large majority of the case studies that we have read 3296 01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:44,840 shows that the service was successful 3297 01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,840 and it was so successful that the demand for ridership was so great 3298 01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,840 that they ended up expanding their service. 3299 01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:52,840 So adding more vehicles 3300 01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:55,840 in order to keep that wait time down. 3301 01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,840 There have been a few, I'll count on one hand, 3302 01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:01,840 a few instances within those case studies 3303 01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,840 that have said, like, for a specific, 3304 01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:06,840 they pulled out an existing fixed route 3305 01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:08,840 and replaced it with on-demand. 3306 01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:13,840 And the ridership wasn't so great with that origin and destination. 3307 01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:17,840 And so the agency maybe they took away four routes 3308 01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:19,840 but they added one back in. 3309 01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:22,840 So we do have the flexibility to do that, 3310 01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:24,840 even if we, you know, propose, 3311 01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:28,840 if what is, if the public feedback does not adjust anything 3312 01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:30,840 in the existing proposed service, 3313 01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:32,840 and we look at that on September 7, 3314 01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:35,840 we still have flexibility to add things back in 3315 01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,840 if our board so chooses. 3316 01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:41,840 And we will retain fleet for that purpose. 3317 01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:44,840 So we're not saying September 7, 3318 01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:47,840 like, let's get rid of, you know, all of our buses and whatnot. 3319 01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:51,840 We're gonna retain that so that we can be nimble 3320 01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:54,840 and bounce back somewhat if needed. 3321 01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,840 But I will say that the majority of the case studies that we have read 3322 01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:01,840 have said that the service is very successful 3323 01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:07,840 and that it has actually spurred growth within those services. 3324 01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,840 Is there any indication in those, you know, 3325 01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:12,840 minority of cases where it hasn't worked out 3326 01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,840 kind of what the factors were? 3327 01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:16,840 Like, what's the indication of, you know, 3328 01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:19,840 kind of the critical success factor? 3329 01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:20,840 Sure. 3330 01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:24,840 So the service will have, like, standard KPIs. 3331 01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:27,840 And so that will be, like, the number of passengers 3332 01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:31,840 that have booked and traveled on the service per service hour, 3333 01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:34,840 the number of people that are in each of the vehicles, 3334 01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:36,840 the on-time performance as related to-- 3335 01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:38,840 I'm sorry, I don't think it's clear in the way I put that. 3336 01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,840 I mean, in the cases that are out there that have already occurred, 3337 01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:45,840 what has been the critical success factor 3338 01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:47,840 that didn't work in a minority of cases? 3339 01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:50,840 Like, what would be the circumstance 3340 01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,840 that would make it need to flip back? 3341 01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:54,840 Sure. 3342 01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:58,840 Off the top of my head, it's always primarily low ridership 3343 01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:02,840 is the key surface indicator. 3344 01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,840 But as they looked into that, there were other factors 3345 01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:07,840 based on each case study that indicated 3346 01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:10,840 what was leading to the low ridership. 3347 01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,840 I would have to go back and pull the specifics. 3348 01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:17,840 Wait times-- was wait times a part of it? 3349 01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:19,840 If you will allow, I will go back to those-- 3350 01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:20,840 Oh, sure. 3351 01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:22,840 --and provide you with the details. 3352 01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:25,840 I haven't read them in a few months. 3353 01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,840 But they were all based on low ridership. 3354 01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:30,840 But I know that they did a deep dive 3355 01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:33,840 into what was the underlying cause of the low ridership. 3356 01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:34,840 The low ridership, yeah. 3357 01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:35,840 I'm more into the underlying cause. 3358 01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:37,840 Sort of low ridership, obviously. 3359 01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:41,840 But is it a certain kind of community 3360 01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:45,840 or certain populations it doesn't work for? 3361 01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:50,840 Or was it something about the way that the program was managed, 3362 01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:52,840 which would be great if it were that, 3363 01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:56,840 because you have the opportunity to not make the same mistakes? 3364 01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:57,840 Sure. 3365 01:39:57,840 --> 01:39:58,840 Absolutely, yes. 3366 01:39:58,840 --> 01:39:59,840 I will follow up with that information. 3367 01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:01,840 I think that would be awesome to understand better. 3368 01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:03,840 Thank you. 3369 01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:07,840 And incidentally, you talked about we're continuing to-- 3370 01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:12,840 or you'll continue to own some bus fleet in case that's needed. 3371 01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:14,840 But the bus service-- 3372 01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:16,840 I think this is not generally understood. 3373 01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:18,840 I'm going to make sure I understand it right. 3374 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:21,840 It's owned by DCTA now anyway, right? 3375 01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,840 You're talking about going from one outsourced service 3376 01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:26,840 to a different outsourced service. 3377 01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:27,840 Is that accurate? 3378 01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:31,840 So we own all of the fleet, the facilities, 3379 01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:33,840 the software services. 3380 01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:37,840 We own all of that, but we contract out the labor. 3381 01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:39,840 Our bus service is currently contracted out 3382 01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:42,840 to the North Texas Mobility Corporation for that service. 3383 01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:45,840 Prior to NTMC, it was contracted out to First Transit. 3384 01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:48,840 And that's a locally owned company? 3385 01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:49,840 It has no-- 3386 01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:53,840 NTMC is a local government corporation that's 3387 01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:55,840 actually a subsidiary of DCTA. 3388 01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:56,840 Oh, OK. 3389 01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:57,840 Interesting. 3390 01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:01,840 I did not understand that. 3391 01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:03,840 Since labor-- you brought up labor. 3392 01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:05,840 That's a good segue into my next comment. 3393 01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:08,840 I'm going to just express what I would think would be ideal. 3394 01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:10,840 And then you could tell me, like, yeah, 3395 01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:12,840 that's exactly what we're doing. 3396 01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:15,840 Because it could be. 3397 01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:20,840 The bus drivers have been in that subset of people 3398 01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:22,840 in our community who have really been 3399 01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:26,840 the front line heroes through the pandemic. 3400 01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:29,840 They took personal risk to their life 3401 01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:32,840 and safety to continue to provide transportation 3402 01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:36,840 to people who need it. 3403 01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:40,840 And I would hope that we're not going 3404 01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:42,840 to turn our back on them. 3405 01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:46,840 So my ideal scenario would be there's a certain number of jobs 3406 01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:48,840 that aren't going to be needed because they're 3407 01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:50,840 driving vehicles that aren't going to be on the road, 3408 01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,840 at least for a while, at least until different decisions are 3409 01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:54,840 made. 3410 01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:56,840 But there's a whole bunch of new jobs 3411 01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:59,840 because it's going to be these other drivers. 3412 01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:05,840 And I would hope that a kind of requirement of the contract 3413 01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:13,840 with VIA would be that our drivers, existing group of drivers, 3414 01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:16,840 would be first in line and would maintain their wages 3415 01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:17,840 and benefits. 3416 01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:19,840 Now, I'm kind of agnostic, or it's 3417 01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:26,840 a conversation for another day, about whether that class of job 3418 01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:27,840 stays that way forever. 3419 01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:30,840 I mean, we don't pay people to be weavers when we have-- 3420 01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:35,840 when we change technologies and so on. 3421 01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,840 But those people who stood by us, 3422 01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:40,840 I would hope that we stand by them. 3423 01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:44,840 So how close am I to the envisioned process? 3424 01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:46,840 Pretty close. 3425 01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:48,840 So the plan right now is we have been 3426 01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:51,840 in constant communication with both NTMC leadership 3427 01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:55,840 as well as the Amalgamated Transit Union, Chapter 1338, 3428 01:42:55,840 --> 01:43:00,840 who oversees all of the operators 3429 01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:02,840 and represents all of the operators for NTMC. 3430 01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:04,840 And so I believe Kenneth Day spoke at the council meeting 3431 01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:06,840 yesterday. 3432 01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:09,840 We've been communicating with them for probably six-plus 3433 01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:12,840 months just to kind of let them know this is what's happening. 3434 01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:14,840 We want to make sure that we're doing this in alignment 3435 01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:18,840 with both NTMC and the union. 3436 01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:21,840 We do recognize that there will be a reduction 3437 01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:23,840 in force of operators. 3438 01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:27,840 It's pretty standard. 3439 01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:29,840 As we scale service down for the summer, 3440 01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:30,840 the same thing happens. 3441 01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:34,840 As we scale service up, we end up adding positions. 3442 01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:37,840 But we're working very closely with NTMC 3443 01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:41,840 to make sure that they're minimizing that impact 3444 01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:43,840 as much as possible because we still 3445 01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:45,840 have service to provide, right? 3446 01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:50,840 So we are also working with VIA to hold a job fair 3447 01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:53,840 specifically to what you just stated 3448 01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:56,840 that operators that would be impacted by the reduction 3449 01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:59,840 in force would have the first opportunity 3450 01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:02,840 to apply for those jobs within VIA. 3451 01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:04,840 VIA has their own salary structure. 3452 01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:06,840 They're contracted employees. 3453 01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:10,840 They do not provide benefits, but their hourly wage 3454 01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:15,840 has received very positive feedback. 3455 01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:17,840 And so we would work with VIA. 3456 01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:19,840 I mean, there's more than 30 jobs that would be available. 3457 01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:22,840 We would work with VIA to kind of hold a job fair 3458 01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:26,840 and give the operators impacted by the reduction in force 3459 01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:28,840 the first opportunity to apply for the job 3460 01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:30,840 and fill those roles before those jobs 3461 01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:33,840 are open to the public. 3462 01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:35,840 I would hope-- 3463 01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:37,840 I won't ask you to respond to this, 3464 01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:39,840 but I would hope that we would look 3465 01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:44,840 to what we could do to keep them whole 3466 01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:48,840 if what's being offered is not the same. 3467 01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:50,840 Because I don't think-- 3468 01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:56,840 I'm so aligned with the improvement of service, 3469 01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:59,840 with the added hours, with the ability to wait inside 3470 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,840 instead of out in the rain and the sun. 3471 01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:07,840 And I put no-- 3472 01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:11,840 I do not romanticize the value of running empty buses 3473 01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:12,840 around the city. 3474 01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:14,840 Maybe someday our land use will be different 3475 01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:16,840 and that would be a great solution. 3476 01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:18,840 But in the short run, I don't see-- 3477 01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:20,840 put any value in running empty buses. 3478 01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:23,840 So I think the idea of efficiently providing 3479 01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:25,840 better service to more people in more areas 3480 01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:27,840 for more time all for it, but I don't 3481 01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:29,840 see that it's intrinsic to do that. 3482 01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:32,840 That we hurt people who have stood by us. 3483 01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:34,840 So I'm not going to ask you to respond to that. 3484 01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:36,840 I will ask you to carry forward the suggestion 3485 01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:40,840 of calling that one addition to Frank Toulou. 3486 01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:42,840 Yes, sir. 3487 01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:52,840 And I, too, am concerned about the jobs of-- 3488 01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:56,840 what is going to happen to current drivers 3489 01:45:57,000 --> 01:46:01,840 who will not be needed by this new model. 3490 01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:08,840 As well as for those who do decide to or are able 3491 01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:12,840 to be employed by VIA if they would want that. 3492 01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:16,840 That would be moving from a job with benefits 3493 01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:17,840 to one with no benefits. 3494 01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:23,840 So I would want to see that, at least 3495 01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:26,840 during this trial period, that those benefits 3496 01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:28,840 could be extended. 3497 01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:31,840 That would be really critical. 3498 01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:34,840 I will take that feedback directly to our board. 3499 01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:35,840 You asked for input. 3500 01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:36,840 You got it. 3501 01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:37,840 That's right. 3502 01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:38,840 All right. 3503 01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:41,840 So if there's nothing else, thank you 3504 01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:45,840 for your extended presence with us. 3505 01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:47,840 Great preparation. 3506 01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:48,840 I'll close the item. 3507 01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:49,840 Great. 3508 01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:50,840 Thank you. 3509 01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:51,840 OK. 3510 01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:52,840 Thanks, Nicole, so much. 3511 01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:53,840 Great. 3512 01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:55,840 So we have one item remaining, which 3513 01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:57,840 is item D, staff reports. 3514 01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:01,840 And open it up. 3515 01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:03,840 It's open. 3516 01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:05,840 And thank you, Councilmember Meltzer. 3517 01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:08,840 I'm happy to present the staff report to you today. 3518 01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:10,840 And I don't have a formal presentation, really. 3519 01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:12,840 Today, what we're going to do is just 3520 01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:15,840 bring you an update of the future agenda items 3521 01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:18,840 that you placed on the agenda at the last meeting. 3522 01:47:18,840 --> 01:47:21,840 And so the first thing I'd like to talk to you about today 3523 01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:25,840 is the senior planner, bicycle, pedestrian, ADA coordinator 3524 01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:26,840 position. 3525 01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:29,840 As I promised, I told you I would be bringing you 3526 01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:32,840 a monthly update on the position. 3527 01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:35,840 We did hold our second round of interviews. 3528 01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:39,840 And a candidate was selected and offered the position. 3529 01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:43,840 He is coming into town today. 3530 01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:46,840 And we will be visiting with him, with staff, 3531 01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:50,840 answering questions and working through with him 3532 01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:52,840 any of the questions that he might have. 3533 01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:55,840 Also, really, he actually provided 3534 01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:58,840 a very detailed list of things that he wants to understand. 3535 01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:02,840 So we're very excited to have that conversation 3536 01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:06,840 and look forward to bringing more information to you back 3537 01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:08,840 at the next meeting in May. 3538 01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:11,840 Can I ask a question about that? 3539 01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:18,840 Can you let me know his name and how people can contact him? 3540 01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:22,840 I'm guessing it's just firstname.lastname@cityofdenton.com. 3541 01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:31,840 And then is it possible that his, if not his entire application, 3542 01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:36,840 VITA or background or something can be made public, 3543 01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:38,840 maybe in a kind of Friday report? 3544 01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:44,840 Again, is that mention about Randy Bird kind of-- 3545 01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:46,840 We missed you for a couple of solos. 3546 01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,840 Your background, et cetera. 3547 01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:52,840 Councilmember Armitage, we missed you for a couple of solos. 3548 01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:55,840 You kind of froze. You're frozen now. 3549 01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:58,840 Oh, I'm sorry. Can you hear me now? 3550 01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:03,840 Yeah, your back audio, your visual is still frozen. 3551 01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:06,840 Okay. 3552 01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:10,840 Now you are all frozen. 3553 01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:12,840 Technology at its finest. 3554 01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:14,840 Councilmember Armitage, I believe I understand 3555 01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:21,840 your question is the specific contact information. 3556 01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:23,840 Okay, there are some things better about meeting in person. 3557 01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:25,840 I'm going to talk. 3558 01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,840 I'm going to hold until, okay. 3559 01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:30,840 I know she's turned her camera off. 3560 01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:32,840 I don't want to interrupt her. 3561 01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:34,840 And I want her to be able to hear this. 3562 01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:36,840 Does this sound better? Is this better? 3563 01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:38,840 Audio good. 3564 01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:40,840 Yes, ma'am, I can hear you. 3565 01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:45,840 So I will be happy to work with our Human Resources Department 3566 01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:47,840 to answer those questions. 3567 01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:50,840 We can provide a summary at this time. 3568 01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:54,840 That individual does not have a city email address, obviously. 3569 01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:57,840 But once, if he does accept that position, 3570 01:49:57,840 --> 01:49:59,840 we'll be happy to share that information. 3571 01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:02,840 But at this point, we're still working through the process 3572 01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:06,840 of him looking and entertaining the position. 3573 01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:08,840 And he has not formally accepted. 3574 01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:11,840 So at this time, I'd like to work with our Human Resources-- 3575 01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:12,840 Oh, okay. 3576 01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:13,840 Yes, ma'am. 3577 01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:15,840 So until he has formally accepted it-- 3578 01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:16,840 Okay, I'm so sorry. 3579 01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:17,840 Never mind. 3580 01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:18,840 So then never mind. 3581 01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:19,840 Yeah, I'm sorry. 3582 01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:20,840 My bad. 3583 01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:21,840 I misunderstood. 3584 01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:22,840 So I take back that question then. 3585 01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:23,840 I thought-- 3586 01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:24,840 No problem. 3587 01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:25,840 I think today I was-- 3588 01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:30,840 I misinterpreted that as, oh, he's moving today. 3589 01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:32,840 But that is not what you said. 3590 01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:35,840 So anyway, so I will reel that back. 3591 01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:36,840 Forget about that. 3592 01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:39,840 But I know that if he does get hired-- 3593 01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:41,840 So he's the one finalist, right? 3594 01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:42,840 He is the finalist. 3595 01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:43,840 Yes, ma'am. 3596 01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:47,840 So whoever the finalist is, I would like that of them-- 3597 01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:49,840 I'm sorry, not the finalist. 3598 01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:50,840 The hires-- 3599 01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:51,840 Hire. 3600 01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:53,840 --of them shortly after they get hired, 3601 01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:56,840 thinking the Friday report about here's who they are, 3602 01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:58,840 how to get in touch with them. 3603 01:50:58,840 --> 01:50:59,840 Absolutely. 3604 01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:03,840 And my goal is also to present that individual 3605 01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:05,840 if he shall accept. 3606 01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:11,840 If not, we will go back to the process of acquiring 3607 01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:15,840 and facilitating another candidate if that happens. 3608 01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:18,840 So we're hopeful with this process, 3609 01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:22,840 and absolutely will be willing to bring him forward 3610 01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:24,840 and introduce him to the committee 3611 01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:27,840 and also to other boards and commissions 3612 01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:29,840 that he needs to and will be involved with. 3613 01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:32,840 So I appreciate that. 3614 01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:36,840 The second item I wanted to bring up was one of the items 3615 01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:40,840 that was on the agenda for the future agenda items. 3616 01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:46,840 It was actually listed as item number, let's see, three. 3617 01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:53,840 And it was in concern for the Highway 377 I-35 intersection 3618 01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:55,840 and that interstate exchange. 3619 01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:59,840 I understand at the time, Councilmember Ryan brought forward 3620 01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:03,840 the question about when you're heading southbound 3621 01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:07,840 on 377 Carroll Boulevard and going underneath 35, 3622 01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:11,840 that there is either a left turn straight or a right turn. 3623 01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:14,840 And at this time, we've been working with TxDOT 3624 01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:18,840 and the city staff is actually conducting 3625 01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:20,840 a traffic count for the intersection. 3626 01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:22,840 This was per the request of TxDOT, 3627 01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:25,840 which we received that data and that's completed, 3628 01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:27,840 the collection's completed. 3629 01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:29,840 We'll be sending it over to TxDOT for their review 3630 01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:32,840 to discuss with them on any improvement measures 3631 01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:36,840 that can be made to either signing or striping 3632 01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:40,840 based on the results of that traffic count. 3633 01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:43,840 So just wanted to give you an update that that's in progress. 3634 01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:45,840 We appreciate you bringing that forward. 3635 01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:47,840 The next item that was brought forward 3636 01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:49,840 was also by Councilmember Ryan. 3637 01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:52,840 It's item number four, which is Hobson Lane. 3638 01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:56,840 He was concerned about traffic that's traveling on Teasley 3639 01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:59,840 and a right-hand turn onto Hobson. 3640 01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:02,840 City staff has evaluated that intersection 3641 01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:06,840 and plans to make some needed improvements to the roadway, 3642 01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:09,840 including some repairs at the intersection, 3643 01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:11,840 along with relocating the stop bars 3644 01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:14,840 on both of the lanes at the intersection. 3645 01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:17,840 What this will do is increase the turning movement 3646 01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:21,840 from Teasley onto Hobson and allow for wider turns. 3647 01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:25,840 The question and concern was in relation to the fact 3648 01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,840 that those individuals who were driving a truck 3649 01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:31,840 and pulling a trailer were having a very hard time 3650 01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:34,840 navigating that turn as somebody was sitting at the stop bar 3651 01:53:34,840 --> 01:53:36,840 on Hobson Lane. 3652 01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:40,840 And so we are hoping and looking for those improvement measures 3653 01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:42,840 and those are ongoing. 3654 01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:48,840 And so definitely excited about having those improvements made. 3655 01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:52,840 The next request came from actually you, Councilmember Meltzer, 3656 01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:56,840 was the item number five on your agenda. 3657 01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:59,840 It was specifically related to West Oak and Bradley 3658 01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:01,840 and the concerns. 3659 01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:05,840 I believe the terminology used maybe was roller coaster 3660 01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:07,840 or something of that sort. 3661 01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:11,840 So we wanted to address your concerns there. 3662 01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:13,840 After further evaluation, 3663 01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:16,840 it appears that the previous design standards 3664 01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:19,840 that have been used for roadway construction 3665 01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:23,840 did not always require that soil samples of existing conditions 3666 01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:26,840 were completed prior to design and construction. 3667 01:54:26,840 --> 01:54:28,840 The design standards... 3668 01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:30,840 Did that shock you to find that? 3669 01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:33,840 I mean, I noted that in preparation, 3670 01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:36,840 like that we didn't ask for soil samples before. 3671 01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:38,840 I was staggered to read that. 3672 01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:42,840 Well, what I will tell you is there is a soil, you know, 3673 01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:45,840 description and map that basically shows 3674 01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:48,840 what the different soil types are throughout the city. 3675 01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:50,840 Those are the generalizations that are used 3676 01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:52,840 for the different pavement sections 3677 01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:55,840 and the different subgrade, subbase 3678 01:54:55,840 --> 01:54:57,840 that's used in roadway construction. 3679 01:54:57,840 --> 01:55:00,840 What we've found is it's a better practice 3680 01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:02,840 to actually perform the soil samples 3681 01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:07,840 to get an actual, you know, on-the-ground explanation 3682 01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:09,840 of exactly what's happening in that area. 3683 01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:13,840 So now that the soil samples are actually being pulled and taken, 3684 01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:16,840 then we can look at that and an engineer can determine 3685 01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:19,840 what actually the subgrade and subbase should be, 3686 01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:21,840 if there's any improvement measures. 3687 01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:24,840 There's many different, you know, I would say recipes, 3688 01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:26,840 designs that can be put together 3689 01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:29,840 to ensure that the soil can be stabilized 3690 01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:31,840 and provide that foundation. 3691 01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:34,840 So just wanted to bring that to your attention. 3692 01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:38,840 And also, you know, they do proper gradation testing. 3693 01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:40,840 Excuse me, Councilmember Arbiter, 3694 01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:45,840 if you can turn your camera on so we still have quorum. 3695 01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:48,840 Oh, good point. Okay. Good point. 3696 01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:50,840 And we can see and hear you well now, 3697 01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:52,840 so maybe the technical difficulty... 3698 01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:53,840 Yeah, I'm so sorry. 3699 01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:55,840 There was a thing flashed on my screen 3700 01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:57,840 that said, "Internet connection unstable." 3701 01:55:57,840 --> 01:55:59,840 I understand completely. 3702 01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:01,840 That happens from time to time. 3703 01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:03,840 Okay. Sorry. Karen. 3704 01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:06,840 So just wanted to bring that to your attention 3705 01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:09,840 that we do appreciate the concern and the comments. 3706 01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:12,840 And we've looked into definitely some improvement measures 3707 01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:15,840 along with not only collecting the soil samples, 3708 01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:17,840 but also some additional design standards 3709 01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:20,840 that are going into the roadway design. 3710 01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:25,840 So, you know, the hopes are that those measures, 3711 01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:28,840 including the proper amounts of stabilization, 3712 01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:30,840 are taken care of 3713 01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:33,840 and taken into consideration on future roadways. 3714 01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:37,840 I so appreciate the, you know, 3715 01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:41,840 the fact that you've respected my underlying concern, 3716 01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:43,840 just like, wow, if this happened there, 3717 01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:46,840 how, you know, what are we missing? 3718 01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:47,840 So that's great. 3719 01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:51,840 Do we intend to repair the, you know, 3720 01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:56,840 the outcome that did occur on West Oak? 3721 01:56:56,840 --> 01:56:57,840 At this time... 3722 01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:02,840 As a living example of why you should test the soil. 3723 01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:04,840 Yes, sir. 3724 01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:07,840 At this time, there are not improvement plans 3725 01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:10,840 to make any kind of replacement to that roadway, 3726 01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:12,840 but we definitely will work 3727 01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:14,840 and continue to work with our streets department 3728 01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:16,840 to see if there's things that can happen 3729 01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:18,840 through a maintenance process, 3730 01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:21,840 whether it's the minor maintenance or major maintenance 3731 01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:23,840 that needs to be completed in that area. 3732 01:57:23,840 --> 01:57:26,840 So definitely something that we will visit 3733 01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:28,840 with our streets department on. 3734 01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:31,840 Just wanted to make you aware 3735 01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:33,840 that for the future, you know, 3736 01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:36,840 we realized that that concern was addressed 3737 01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:39,840 and wanted to make sure that you understood 3738 01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:42,840 that the proper improvement measures are being taken forward 3739 01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:45,840 to help ensure that condition does not exist again. 3740 01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:46,840 I get that. 3741 01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:50,840 I suspect as a layperson that it needs reconstruction 3742 01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:51,840 and that it will, you know, 3743 01:57:51,840 --> 01:57:54,840 have to be part of some future bond, 3744 01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:56,840 but, you know, it's... 3745 01:57:56,840 --> 01:58:00,840 You don't think it's right, do you, the way it is now? 3746 01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:02,840 I have... 3747 01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:06,840 I would state that I believe that definitely 3748 01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:10,840 there are some areas where there are pavement 3749 01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:12,840 that is, you know, maybe higher than... 3750 01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:14,840 I'm not going to use the term roller coaster, 3751 01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:16,840 but there is pavement that is, you know, 3752 01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:18,840 absolutely not stabilized, 3753 01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:21,840 and the soil is not stabilized underneath the roadway, 3754 01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:24,840 and I do agree that there are improvement measures 3755 01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:26,840 that should be made in that area. 3756 01:58:26,840 --> 01:58:29,840 It's just a matter of putting it in a work plan 3757 01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:32,840 or a future bond plan or a future maintenance program 3758 01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:34,840 in order to address that concern. 3759 01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:36,840 You may not want to use the term, 3760 01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:38,840 but if the amusement park ride fits where it... 3761 01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:39,840 I'm sorry, Carrie. 3762 01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:40,840 Councilman Romford? 3763 01:58:40,840 --> 01:58:43,840 Oh, yeah, no, just a follow-up question about that. 3764 01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:46,840 I'm curious also about kind of, you know, 3765 01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:52,840 the cause for the soil being like that in that area. 3766 01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:57,840 Is it because of aquifers in that area 3767 01:58:57,840 --> 01:59:01,840 or, you know, something like that? 3768 01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:05,840 Is the soil more moist, more dry? 3769 01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:08,840 Is there more shifting? 3770 01:59:08,840 --> 01:59:10,840 And, you know, I'm also curious, 3771 01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:13,840 even though this is not quite a mobility question, 3772 01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:17,840 but if it's a problem for the city in construction, 3773 01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:20,840 you know, I would imagine that would be a concern 3774 01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:22,840 for private construction, too, in that area, 3775 01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:23,840 so I wonder if... 3776 01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:26,840 Or I'll just say I would hope that our, 3777 01:59:26,840 --> 01:59:29,840 you know, streets engineering people would share 3778 01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:33,840 with, you know, development services, 3779 01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:36,840 you know, if there are any concerns about that 3780 01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:41,840 in the area that could affect, you know, private construction. 3781 01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:43,840 Sure, I'm not... 3782 01:59:43,840 --> 01:59:44,840 That makes sense. 3783 01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:47,840 I'm not aware of any aquifers in that area. 3784 01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:50,840 I simply think that it's just the situation 3785 01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:56,840 where the existing soil was not stabilized properly 3786 01:59:57,000 --> 01:59:59,840 with improvement measures such as LIME, such as, 3787 01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:01,840 you know, different types of... 3788 02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:04,840 Even to the fact of bringing in new soil 3789 02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:09,840 so that the compaction could be appropriate in that area. 3790 02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:12,840 And I will tell you, you see Chandra on the phone today, 3791 02:00:12,840 --> 02:00:15,840 he is heavily involved in a lot of the development projects 3792 02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:17,840 that are coming through the city, 3793 02:00:17,840 --> 02:00:19,840 and so with this being a standard, 3794 02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:21,840 this is something that we're looking at implementing 3795 02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:24,840 not only for the projects that are capital project delivery, 3796 02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:26,840 but then also development services. 3797 02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:28,840 We coordinate with them on a day-to-day basis 3798 02:00:28,840 --> 02:00:31,840 and actually are all co-located in the same building now, 3799 02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:33,840 which, you know, is definitely helping 3800 02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:37,840 with the day-to-day operations and questions that arise. 3801 02:00:37,840 --> 02:00:39,840 Wonderful, thank you. 3802 02:00:39,840 --> 02:00:40,840 No problem. 3803 02:00:40,840 --> 02:00:44,840 So the next item that came up was item number six, 3804 02:00:44,840 --> 02:00:47,840 and Council Member Armitage, this came from you. 3805 02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:50,840 It was in concerns of Hickory and Bonnie Bray 3806 02:00:50,840 --> 02:00:53,840 and traffic speeding in that area. 3807 02:00:54,000 --> 02:00:56,840 You mentioned cars going too fast, 3808 02:00:56,840 --> 02:01:00,840 and so the city staff will perform a traffic study 3809 02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:03,840 once the construction is completed in that area. 3810 02:01:03,840 --> 02:01:06,840 Currently, traffic studies do not provide realistic data 3811 02:01:06,840 --> 02:01:08,840 during the construction zones, 3812 02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:12,840 and so once the construction in that area is completed, 3813 02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:16,840 then we can perform an official traffic study. 3814 02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:19,840 We will and have been coordinating with our police department 3815 02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:22,840 as different things are brought to our attention 3816 02:01:23,000 --> 02:01:25,840 from a speeding perspective in areas such as this 3817 02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:28,840 where construction is currently happening 3818 02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:32,840 and we cannot perform an official traffic study. 3819 02:01:32,840 --> 02:01:34,840 So we will be notifying and working 3820 02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:37,840 with the police department of the concerns 3821 02:01:37,840 --> 02:01:40,840 and request additional enforcement in that area. 3822 02:01:40,840 --> 02:01:42,840 Well, and can I ask about that? 3823 02:01:42,840 --> 02:01:43,840 Sure. 3824 02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:45,840 You know, I also wonder about, you know, 3825 02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:47,840 because obviously, like, for, you know, 3826 02:01:47,840 --> 02:01:49,840 police enforcement that involves staffing, 3827 02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:52,840 you know, having people there, you know, at that area, 3828 02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:56,840 who would be there instead of elsewhere, 3829 02:01:56,840 --> 02:01:59,840 you know, I wonder also about, you know, 3830 02:01:59,840 --> 02:02:04,840 the possibility of, you know, temporary speed bumps, 3831 02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:08,840 you know, signage, something like that, 3832 02:02:08,840 --> 02:02:10,840 you know, things that are temporary, 3833 02:02:10,840 --> 02:02:13,840 because I understand this construction is temporary, 3834 02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:18,840 and so if any, you know, speeding problems there 3835 02:02:18,840 --> 02:02:21,840 are related to the construction, 3836 02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:23,840 and I'm not sure that they are, 3837 02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:25,840 but if they are, you know, 3838 02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:27,840 then these would just be temporary things 3839 02:02:27,840 --> 02:02:31,840 that, you know, using materials that we already have. 3840 02:02:31,840 --> 02:02:36,840 So anyway, I would love to see that for areas like this, 3841 02:02:36,840 --> 02:02:39,840 you know, where there's a temporary problem, 3842 02:02:39,840 --> 02:02:41,840 because, you know, I'm concerned that, 3843 02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:43,840 you know, I don't want to see someone get hurt 3844 02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:45,840 in the interim, right, even though, 3845 02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:48,840 and I do understand what you mean by it's not ready yet 3846 02:02:48,840 --> 02:02:50,840 for a traffic study, but kind of looking at 3847 02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:56,840 what can we do besides just police enforcement, 3848 02:02:56,840 --> 02:02:59,840 you know, to make sure that it's, 3849 02:02:59,840 --> 02:03:03,840 to make it a little safer in the interim. 3850 02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:05,840 Sharon, I will also tell you that police enforcement 3851 02:03:05,840 --> 02:03:07,840 doesn't always just mean an individual 3852 02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:11,840 at a police vehicle or, you know, a motorcycle. 3853 02:03:11,840 --> 02:03:14,840 Sometimes the enforcement actually 3854 02:03:14,840 --> 02:03:17,840 is them deploying the trailer 3855 02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:20,840 that has the actual speed sign on it, 3856 02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:23,840 so people can see, you know, how fast they're going. 3857 02:03:23,840 --> 02:03:25,840 It's sometimes, in many cases, 3858 02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:27,840 it's just making folks aware 3859 02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:29,840 of how fast they are actually traveling. 3860 02:03:29,840 --> 02:03:33,840 And so we will continue to work with the police department 3861 02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:35,840 in that area. 3862 02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:38,840 So just wanted to give you an update on that. 3863 02:03:38,840 --> 02:03:40,840 We can talk to them about if there's 3864 02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:42,840 any other improvement measures 3865 02:03:42,840 --> 02:03:44,840 or any other concerns they've seen in that area. 3866 02:03:44,840 --> 02:03:46,840 So we'll continue that conversation 3867 02:03:47,000 --> 02:03:48,840 with the police department. -Thank you. 3868 02:03:48,840 --> 02:03:50,840 And there's also, I don't think that there's a sign, 3869 02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:54,840 like, that, you know, when you turn off, 3870 02:03:54,840 --> 02:03:57,840 you know, when you turn on to Hickory 3871 02:03:57,840 --> 02:03:59,840 at the beginning of Hickory right there, 3872 02:03:59,840 --> 02:04:01,840 it says what the speed limit is. 3873 02:04:01,840 --> 02:04:04,840 You know, I know that it's 30, 3874 02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:07,840 and then it changes to 20 and then back to 30, 3875 02:04:07,840 --> 02:04:12,840 but I could understand someone not knowing that, 3876 02:04:12,840 --> 02:04:15,840 so, you know, maybe, you know, a speed bump and a sign. 3877 02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:18,840 And, again, I might be wrong about sign not being there, 3878 02:04:18,840 --> 02:04:21,840 but I'm pretty sure that that's how it is. 3879 02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:26,840 And did staff get to look at the issue of the Avenue G? 3880 02:04:26,840 --> 02:04:28,840 -Yes, ma'am. That's the next one I was... 3881 02:04:28,840 --> 02:04:30,840 -Okay, good. Okay. 3882 02:04:30,840 --> 02:04:33,840 Item number seven actually came also from you, 3883 02:04:33,840 --> 02:04:36,840 Councilmember Armature, which was Avenue G. 3884 02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:39,840 And city staff conducted a site visit. 3885 02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:42,840 We found that all proper signage 3886 02:04:42,840 --> 02:04:45,840 is currently constructed in that area. 3887 02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:48,840 There are one-way signs, there are stop signs, 3888 02:04:48,840 --> 02:04:53,840 there are all of the proper signage in that area, 3889 02:04:53,840 --> 02:04:56,840 and we are going to work also with the police department 3890 02:04:56,840 --> 02:04:58,840 and notify them of concerns 3891 02:04:58,840 --> 02:05:00,840 and additional enforcement in that area. 3892 02:05:00,840 --> 02:05:03,840 Currently, the intersection, 3893 02:05:03,840 --> 02:05:08,840 the offset intersection of what you described last month, 3894 02:05:08,840 --> 02:05:11,840 it is currently working and operating as designed 3895 02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:13,840 with all of the proper signage. 3896 02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:17,840 Unfortunately, it's very difficult to have drivers 3897 02:05:17,840 --> 02:05:19,840 not do what you described, 3898 02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:22,840 which was go down the wrong way 3899 02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:26,840 and then travel onto Avenue G. 3900 02:05:26,840 --> 02:05:28,840 And I guess that would be further south. 3901 02:05:28,840 --> 02:05:32,840 But we did want to make sure from a signing perspective 3902 02:05:32,840 --> 02:05:34,840 that all of the proper signs were there, 3903 02:05:34,840 --> 02:05:37,840 so we did do that field investigation. 3904 02:05:37,840 --> 02:05:39,840 At this time, the best thing that we can do 3905 02:05:39,840 --> 02:05:41,840 is continue to work with our police department, 3906 02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:44,840 get to their attention, and allow them to work 3907 02:05:44,840 --> 02:05:46,840 through many enforcement measures 3908 02:05:46,840 --> 02:05:48,840 that can be made in that area. 3909 02:05:48,840 --> 02:05:49,840 - And thank you. 3910 02:05:49,840 --> 02:05:52,840 And it makes sense that the signage is fine 3911 02:05:52,840 --> 02:05:54,840 because I see the signage. 3912 02:05:54,840 --> 02:05:55,840 - Sure. 3913 02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:59,840 - I've seen the signage there, and it's still, I don't know. 3914 02:05:59,840 --> 02:06:02,840 Are people deliberately ignoring the signs 3915 02:06:02,840 --> 02:06:04,840 or is there something about, you know, 3916 02:06:04,840 --> 02:06:08,840 they're not seeing the signs, even though they're right, 3917 02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:11,840 it's right there in your face, it says one way. 3918 02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:16,840 But, you know, as per usual, you know, 3919 02:06:16,840 --> 02:06:21,840 I would love to know if there are any additional, 3920 02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:28,840 you know, forms of signage that could be used to, 3921 02:06:28,840 --> 02:06:31,840 you know, not just in this case, but in other, 3922 02:06:31,840 --> 02:06:32,840 and I forget the term you used, 3923 02:06:32,840 --> 02:06:35,840 but it was a good term, not disconnected, 3924 02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:37,840 but, you know, to describe that situation 3925 02:06:37,840 --> 02:06:39,840 where you've got a street that's broken up 3926 02:06:40,000 --> 02:06:41,840 and then another street where there's a one way. 3927 02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:46,840 I don't know how many areas there are like that around town. 3928 02:06:46,840 --> 02:06:47,840 And, you know, but I would imagine 3929 02:06:47,840 --> 02:06:49,840 that it might be a problem in those areas. 3930 02:06:49,840 --> 02:06:51,840 So it could be that more signage 3931 02:06:51,840 --> 02:06:56,840 than we would think would be required, might be needed, 3932 02:06:56,840 --> 02:06:58,840 you know, to maybe multiple signs going, 3933 02:06:58,840 --> 02:07:01,840 no, really, you know, really, it is one way. 3934 02:07:01,840 --> 02:07:03,840 You know, I don't know, a big X, 3935 02:07:03,840 --> 02:07:05,840 a picture of someone going in the street within, 3936 02:07:05,840 --> 02:07:08,840 I have no idea, but kind of like when you go, 3937 02:07:09,000 --> 02:07:11,840 I'm thinking of, you know, the roundabout on Bonnie Bray, 3938 02:07:11,840 --> 02:07:13,840 I know it's because it's under construction, 3939 02:07:13,840 --> 02:07:17,840 but when you're approaching it, 3940 02:07:17,840 --> 02:07:18,840 you know, as you're approaching it, 3941 02:07:18,840 --> 02:07:19,840 there are all these signs, 3942 02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:20,840 there's a roundabout, there's a roundabout, 3943 02:07:20,840 --> 02:07:22,840 there's a roundabout, you know, 3944 02:07:22,840 --> 02:07:25,840 and so there's no way you're going to miss 3945 02:07:25,840 --> 02:07:28,840 that there's something there. 3946 02:07:28,840 --> 02:07:31,840 You know, it's kind of in excess of signs, 3947 02:07:31,840 --> 02:07:35,840 but that has, I think, a good effect. 3948 02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:38,840 So anyway, just my two cents on that, 3949 02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:39,840 but thank you so much. 3950 02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:41,840 - No problem. 3951 02:07:41,840 --> 02:07:44,840 So I guess the last thing that I just wanted to do 3952 02:07:44,840 --> 02:07:46,840 was take an opportunity to see 3953 02:07:46,840 --> 02:07:49,840 if there were any additional agenda items 3954 02:07:49,840 --> 02:07:52,840 that either one of you had 3955 02:07:52,840 --> 02:07:54,840 that you wanted us to bring forward. 3956 02:07:54,840 --> 02:07:57,840 I think we addressed all of the concerns 3957 02:07:57,840 --> 02:07:59,840 that you brought forward last month, 3958 02:07:59,840 --> 02:08:01,840 so just wanted to take this opportunity 3959 02:08:01,840 --> 02:08:03,840 to see if there's anything additional. 3960 02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:06,840 We will continue to bring you updates 3961 02:08:06,840 --> 02:08:08,840 on the senior planner position 3962 02:08:08,840 --> 02:08:10,840 and anything else that we feel like 3963 02:08:10,840 --> 02:08:12,840 is important to bring your way, 3964 02:08:12,840 --> 02:08:14,840 but wanted to give you the opportunity 3965 02:08:14,840 --> 02:08:16,840 to let us know if there's anything else 3966 02:08:16,840 --> 02:08:17,840 you'd like for us to look into. 3967 02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:19,840 - If you keep addressing the items, 3968 02:08:19,840 --> 02:08:22,840 that's going to encourage us to bring you more. 3969 02:08:22,840 --> 02:08:25,840 - Well, I'm trying to be responsive to your request, sir. 3970 02:08:25,840 --> 02:08:26,840 - I appreciate that. 3971 02:08:26,840 --> 02:08:27,840 Councilmember Armitage? 3972 02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:31,840 - You know, one thing that would be neat, 3973 02:08:32,000 --> 02:08:34,840 and I don't know if it would be more complicated 3974 02:08:34,840 --> 02:08:36,840 than I'm imagining it would be, 3975 02:08:36,840 --> 02:08:40,840 would be for future mobility committee meetings 3976 02:08:40,840 --> 02:08:46,840 to have as a backup in this section of the meeting, 3977 02:08:46,840 --> 02:08:52,840 maybe a list of engaged Denton 3978 02:08:52,840 --> 02:08:58,840 and kind of council member-initiated traffic concerns, 3979 02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:07,840 mobility concerns that have come in between the time, 3980 02:09:07,840 --> 02:09:10,840 you know, between the previous mobility meeting 3981 02:09:10,840 --> 02:09:13,840 and this meeting for the past month or whenever. 3982 02:09:13,840 --> 02:09:17,840 You know, if that would be really complicated, 3983 02:09:17,840 --> 02:09:21,840 then that might not be worth the time. 3984 02:09:21,840 --> 02:09:23,840 And I'm not saying that we go over every single one 3985 02:09:23,840 --> 02:09:25,840 and that there'd be a presentation discussion on one, 3986 02:09:26,000 --> 02:09:28,840 but I would like to look, I would like to know 3987 02:09:28,840 --> 02:09:33,840 just kind of what those are and to just look for patterns 3988 02:09:33,840 --> 02:09:36,840 and, you know, I know that I do that with my own email, 3989 02:09:36,840 --> 02:09:38,840 emails that come to me, 3990 02:09:38,840 --> 02:09:40,840 and we get that nice report about, 3991 02:09:40,840 --> 02:09:42,840 you know, council member requests, 3992 02:09:42,840 --> 02:09:45,840 how many have to do with traffic, et cetera. 3993 02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:47,840 I wouldn't have to know the names of the people 3994 02:09:47,840 --> 02:09:50,840 and, you know, but just kind of, you know, 3995 02:09:51,000 --> 02:09:55,840 what intersections, you know, just a very brief little chart. 3996 02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:58,840 I don't know if Mayor Pro Tem Meltzer, 3997 02:09:58,840 --> 02:10:01,840 if you'd find that interesting or helpful. 3998 02:10:01,840 --> 02:10:05,840 I'm not 100% sure I get the vision, 3999 02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:09,840 if you could try again, between the meetings. 4000 02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:11,840 Yeah, just kind of, so a list of, 4001 02:10:11,840 --> 02:10:13,840 so Adam, the mobility committee meeting, right? 4002 02:10:13,840 --> 02:10:17,840 So we're meeting next, I guess next month, right? 4003 02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:21,840 So if, you know, next month or the month after that, 4004 02:10:21,840 --> 02:10:26,840 there could be a list attached to this part of the agenda 4005 02:10:26,840 --> 02:10:29,840 where we could just get a list of or a chart of, 4006 02:10:29,840 --> 02:10:31,840 these are all of the mobility-related concerns 4007 02:10:31,840 --> 02:10:34,840 that have come in through Engage Denton 4008 02:10:34,840 --> 02:10:39,840 or through council during this month. 4009 02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:44,840 Yeah, just to see, again, we already get a chart 4010 02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:47,840 of those, yeah, how many of the Engage... 4011 02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:49,840 Sorry, I didn't mean to talk about you. 4012 02:10:49,840 --> 02:10:51,840 Exactly, okay, so you get it, yeah. 4013 02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:53,840 Yeah, yeah, 'cause like it's a little disconnected, right? 4014 02:10:53,840 --> 02:10:58,840 There's kind of a running list of, you know, 4015 02:10:58,840 --> 02:11:00,840 kind of requests that council members raise 4016 02:11:00,840 --> 02:11:02,840 that go on the Friday report, 4017 02:11:02,840 --> 02:11:05,840 but it doesn't necessarily carry over 4018 02:11:05,840 --> 02:11:11,840 in some efficient way to this group, right? 4019 02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:17,840 So, I mean, probably if they occurred, they're there, 4020 02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:19,840 but it would be kind of helpful 4021 02:11:19,840 --> 02:11:24,840 to kind of carry over into this matrix. 4022 02:11:24,840 --> 02:11:26,840 Is that kind of the idea? 4023 02:11:26,840 --> 02:11:29,840 Yeah, yeah, and not even necessarily for discussion. 4024 02:11:29,840 --> 02:11:30,840 So, again... 4025 02:11:30,840 --> 02:11:31,840 But just do they all. 4026 02:11:31,840 --> 02:11:34,840 Yeah, and it'll help me, and this is something that, 4027 02:11:34,840 --> 02:11:38,840 you know, I know that our traffic engineering staff 4028 02:11:39,000 --> 02:11:41,840 already have a good idea of, you know, know very well 4029 02:11:41,840 --> 02:11:44,840 what the concerns are coming in, 4030 02:11:44,840 --> 02:11:47,840 both from council and Engage Denton, right? 4031 02:11:47,840 --> 02:11:49,840 'Cause it doesn't matter so much to me 4032 02:11:49,840 --> 02:11:51,840 where it comes from, 4033 02:11:51,840 --> 02:11:54,840 but looking at what are people's traffic concerns, 4034 02:11:54,840 --> 02:11:57,840 you know, mobility concerns this month, 4035 02:11:57,840 --> 02:12:00,840 I know that traffic engineering has a good idea of those. 4036 02:12:00,840 --> 02:12:02,840 I don't know how heavy a lift it is, honestly. 4037 02:12:02,840 --> 02:12:05,840 So, I mean, I appreciate your sensitivity 4038 02:12:05,840 --> 02:12:07,840 and the way you put the question of like, 4039 02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:09,840 is it going to be too complicated to be worth it? 4040 02:12:09,840 --> 02:12:13,840 So, I mean, I would support, you know, 4041 02:12:13,840 --> 02:12:17,840 letting Director DeVinney hear the request 4042 02:12:17,840 --> 02:12:20,840 and think about it and let us know what's practical, 4043 02:12:20,840 --> 02:12:23,840 you know, but I get it. 4044 02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:26,840 Sure, I'd be happy to look into that. 4045 02:12:26,840 --> 02:12:29,840 I do know that the council responses 4046 02:12:29,840 --> 02:12:32,840 are in the Friday report, obviously, 4047 02:12:32,840 --> 02:12:34,840 and then the Engage Denton. 4048 02:12:34,840 --> 02:12:36,840 There are quite a few Engage Denton that come through, 4049 02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:38,840 so we'll have to look at kind of the number of those 4050 02:12:38,840 --> 02:12:41,840 and what type of lift that would be for the team, 4051 02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:43,840 whether or not that's something that could be provided 4052 02:12:43,840 --> 02:12:46,840 in a table with just a summary of the item 4053 02:12:46,840 --> 02:12:48,840 and, you know, maybe even the council district it's in 4054 02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:50,840 or, you know, if it came from a resident 4055 02:12:50,840 --> 02:12:52,840 or if it came from a council member. 4056 02:12:52,840 --> 02:12:54,840 I also know, you know, we're working through 4057 02:12:54,840 --> 02:12:56,840 the update of the new 311 system, 4058 02:12:56,840 --> 02:12:59,840 so whatever, you know, measure that we might put into place, 4059 02:12:59,840 --> 02:13:01,840 I would want it to be something that could be succinct 4060 02:13:01,840 --> 02:13:04,840 and, you know, that we could streamline our process 4061 02:13:05,000 --> 02:13:06,840 to move into the new system, too. 4062 02:13:06,840 --> 02:13:11,840 So I'm happy to look into it and see what that might take 4063 02:13:11,840 --> 02:13:14,840 to, you know, provide additional information. 4064 02:13:14,840 --> 02:13:16,840 I know the one thing that goes through my mind 4065 02:13:16,840 --> 02:13:18,840 as you're asking the question is really, 4066 02:13:18,840 --> 02:13:21,840 is it more for awareness of kind of what-- 4067 02:13:21,840 --> 02:13:24,840 are you wanting to be aware of what is going on 4068 02:13:24,840 --> 02:13:27,840 and kind of what are the questions that are being asked 4069 02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:32,840 simply from the standpoint of, you know, the Engage Denton? 4070 02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:34,840 I know you see all of the Friday Report items 4071 02:13:34,840 --> 02:13:36,840 because you get a copy of the document, 4072 02:13:36,840 --> 02:13:38,840 so I guess that's really my question. 4073 02:13:38,840 --> 02:13:40,840 I'm really trying to understand the why behind it 4074 02:13:40,840 --> 02:13:42,840 so that I can help facilitate that. 4075 02:13:42,840 --> 02:13:44,840 And that's a good question. 4076 02:13:44,840 --> 02:13:46,840 It's basically, you know, I want to know-- 4077 02:13:46,840 --> 02:13:49,840 because I'm only knowing-- I only know what comes to council, 4078 02:13:49,840 --> 02:13:55,840 right, and so I want to know 4079 02:13:55,840 --> 02:13:58,840 what the biggest traffic concerns are 4080 02:13:58,840 --> 02:14:01,840 or mobility concerns are in the city 4081 02:14:02,000 --> 02:14:06,840 this month, you know, in terms of the number of people 4082 02:14:06,840 --> 02:14:11,840 who have, you know, complained or asked questions 4083 02:14:11,840 --> 02:14:16,840 because I know that what I hear is selective. 4084 02:14:16,840 --> 02:14:21,840 You know, it just happens to be the people who decide 4085 02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:23,840 that they're going to either write to all of council 4086 02:14:23,840 --> 02:14:25,840 or they're going to just write to me 4087 02:14:25,840 --> 02:14:27,840 or sometimes even tell me, you know, 4088 02:14:27,840 --> 02:14:29,840 see me somewhere on the street and say, 4089 02:14:30,000 --> 02:14:31,840 "Oh, by the way--" 4090 02:14:31,840 --> 02:14:38,840 So I want-- I would love to have that big picture 4091 02:14:38,840 --> 02:14:40,840 that I know that traffic engineering has 4092 02:14:40,840 --> 02:14:43,840 because I know that all of these things end up coming to them, 4093 02:14:43,840 --> 02:14:45,840 you know, no matter whether it comes-- 4094 02:14:45,840 --> 02:14:49,840 would come from Engage Denton, 311, or from council. 4095 02:14:49,840 --> 02:14:52,840 So I would just love to know, you know, for instance, 4096 02:14:52,840 --> 02:14:54,840 you know, including, I mean, things that-- 4097 02:14:54,840 --> 02:14:56,840 so you mentioned district, right, 4098 02:14:57,000 --> 02:15:00,840 it would be interesting to know if-- is it the case that, 4099 02:15:00,840 --> 02:15:03,840 you know, every month there are more issues in district four 4100 02:15:03,840 --> 02:15:05,840 or district one that come-- 4101 02:15:05,840 --> 02:15:09,840 you know, that come forward through either-- 4102 02:15:09,840 --> 02:15:12,840 any of these means than the other districts. 4103 02:15:12,840 --> 02:15:14,840 I just made that up arbitrarily. 4104 02:15:14,840 --> 02:15:15,840 Sure. 4105 02:15:15,840 --> 02:15:19,840 It would tell me things that I don't even really-- 4106 02:15:19,840 --> 02:15:21,840 give me questions that I don't even know 4107 02:15:21,840 --> 02:15:24,840 what the questions are to ask or the patterns to look for. 4108 02:15:25,000 --> 02:15:28,840 It would just help me know more, have more of a bird's-eye view 4109 02:15:28,840 --> 02:15:31,840 about what's going on in the city 4110 02:15:31,840 --> 02:15:36,840 and so that I can know more of what traffic engineering knows 4111 02:15:36,840 --> 02:15:39,840 as far as where the problem areas are each month. 4112 02:15:39,840 --> 02:15:44,840 If I can, you know, pick back and comment before your response. 4113 02:15:44,840 --> 02:15:47,840 I mean, I see the value 4114 02:15:47,840 --> 02:15:51,840 and I think it kind of comes under good to know. 4115 02:15:51,840 --> 02:15:53,840 You don't know where it could lead. 4116 02:15:54,000 --> 02:15:57,840 And I've also spoken with a previous city manager 4117 02:15:57,840 --> 02:16:00,840 about the possibility of like a heat map 4118 02:16:00,840 --> 02:16:03,840 where instead of just a long list, 4119 02:16:03,840 --> 02:16:08,840 different people absorb information different ways. 4120 02:16:08,840 --> 02:16:12,840 So, you know, rather than a list, 4121 02:16:12,840 --> 02:16:15,840 for me, you know, at some point a map 4122 02:16:15,840 --> 02:16:18,840 where you can kind of see here's where the issues are. 4123 02:16:18,840 --> 02:16:20,840 You can kind of see where there are lots 4124 02:16:20,840 --> 02:16:22,840 and where there are little. 4125 02:16:23,000 --> 02:16:27,840 But the value of good to know is a little unknown, 4126 02:16:27,840 --> 02:16:31,840 but it's certainly like it's a better deal if it's easy to do. 4127 02:16:31,840 --> 02:16:36,840 You know, if it's like a lot of work and it's of mild interest. 4128 02:16:36,840 --> 02:16:39,840 I completely agree. 4129 02:16:39,840 --> 02:16:43,840 But it may be the case that it wouldn't be a lot of work 4130 02:16:43,840 --> 02:16:48,840 because if it's coming through 311 and before that, 4131 02:16:48,840 --> 02:16:50,840 if it's coming through Engage Denton, 4132 02:16:51,000 --> 02:16:53,840 like those things may all be tagged anyway. 4133 02:16:53,840 --> 02:16:55,840 To the extent that it's sort of automated, 4134 02:16:55,840 --> 02:17:00,840 the more automated it is, the more worth it is. 4135 02:17:00,840 --> 02:17:02,840 That would be my point of view. 4136 02:17:02,840 --> 02:17:04,840 It's like I don't know what the value is. 4137 02:17:04,840 --> 02:17:06,840 Yeah, it might be there. 4138 02:17:06,840 --> 02:17:08,840 Low cost would be good. 4139 02:17:08,840 --> 02:17:09,840 Yeah, I concur. 4140 02:17:09,840 --> 02:17:11,840 I won't be heartbroken, you know, 4141 02:17:11,840 --> 02:17:13,840 if it turns out it's too complicated. 4142 02:17:13,840 --> 02:17:15,840 I'm just genuinely curious. 4143 02:17:15,840 --> 02:17:18,840 And, you know, it also might be of interest and use to staff, too, 4144 02:17:19,000 --> 02:17:22,840 if people don't already have, you know, a list like that. 4145 02:17:22,840 --> 02:17:25,840 It might be helpful to staff. 4146 02:17:25,840 --> 02:17:28,840 The way I imagine it is that everybody in traffic engineering 4147 02:17:28,840 --> 02:17:31,840 has, you know, photographic memories 4148 02:17:31,840 --> 02:17:33,840 and just a really good mental picture of this. 4149 02:17:33,840 --> 02:17:35,840 But I don't know. 4150 02:17:35,840 --> 02:17:38,840 We have a pretty good idea of the questions and comments 4151 02:17:38,840 --> 02:17:39,840 that come through. 4152 02:17:39,840 --> 02:17:41,840 We're addressing them on a day-to-day basis. 4153 02:17:41,840 --> 02:17:44,840 So, you know, I would just say in general, 4154 02:17:44,840 --> 02:17:46,840 a lot of the Engage Denton requests that come through 4155 02:17:47,000 --> 02:17:49,840 are specifically related to a construction project. 4156 02:17:49,840 --> 02:17:51,840 Maybe there's something to do with signage 4157 02:17:51,840 --> 02:17:54,840 or something to do with standing water 4158 02:17:54,840 --> 02:17:56,840 or a concern about access. 4159 02:17:56,840 --> 02:18:00,840 And so those are things that if there's an issue that comes up, 4160 02:18:00,840 --> 02:18:03,840 we're directly taking care of almost the day of, 4161 02:18:03,840 --> 02:18:05,840 if not the next day. 4162 02:18:05,840 --> 02:18:08,840 So many of those requests that come through are that way. 4163 02:18:08,840 --> 02:18:10,840 I will also tell you quite a few other requests 4164 02:18:10,840 --> 02:18:13,840 that come through are specifically related to TechStat. 4165 02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:16,840 It's something that we as individuals can all do 4166 02:18:16,840 --> 02:18:18,840 to help our residents understand the difference 4167 02:18:18,840 --> 02:18:21,840 between the TechStat roadways and the City of Denton roadways 4168 02:18:21,840 --> 02:18:24,840 because many times we're passing along those messages to TechStat 4169 02:18:24,840 --> 02:18:27,840 and we coordinate with them monthly 4170 02:18:27,840 --> 02:18:30,840 on specific questions related to concerns that come up 4171 02:18:30,840 --> 02:18:33,840 that maybe are larger in nature in our collaborative effort 4172 02:18:33,840 --> 02:18:36,840 in order to address the concerns of the residents. 4173 02:18:36,840 --> 02:18:39,840 And then I'll also tell you many times residents also copy 4174 02:18:39,840 --> 02:18:42,840 their council members or the city manager's office 4175 02:18:43,000 --> 02:18:45,840 on their concern as it comes through. 4176 02:18:45,840 --> 02:18:48,840 And the majority of those make themselves back 4177 02:18:48,840 --> 02:18:52,840 to either the individual also copying 4178 02:18:52,840 --> 02:18:55,840 and including the council, but also many times 4179 02:18:55,840 --> 02:18:58,840 those make their way back into a Friday report. 4180 02:18:58,840 --> 02:19:01,840 So I think we can look at the different ways 4181 02:19:01,840 --> 02:19:03,840 that media is coming through 4182 02:19:03,840 --> 02:19:06,840 and see if there's a way to address what I would... 4183 02:19:06,840 --> 02:19:09,840 The reason why I brought those things up 4184 02:19:09,840 --> 02:19:11,840 and the reason why I wanted to make you aware 4185 02:19:12,000 --> 02:19:14,840 is because I don't know that it's a benefit to you 4186 02:19:14,840 --> 02:19:18,840 to understand that a cone is not in the right place 4187 02:19:18,840 --> 02:19:20,840 and the cone needs to be moved. 4188 02:19:20,840 --> 02:19:22,840 I mean, it sounds like to me the request... 4189 02:19:22,840 --> 02:19:26,840 No, not so much from the point of individual cases 4190 02:19:26,840 --> 02:19:28,840 because as you mentioned in a situation like that, 4191 02:19:28,840 --> 02:19:31,840 I mean, I just assume that these things are being taken care of. 4192 02:19:31,840 --> 02:19:32,840 Absolutely. 4193 02:19:32,840 --> 02:19:36,840 It's not so I can keep a list of what needs to be taken care of, 4194 02:19:36,840 --> 02:19:40,840 but so that, for instance, if we're having a discussion 4195 02:19:41,000 --> 02:19:43,840 about construction or contractors, 4196 02:19:43,840 --> 02:19:50,840 then I will know, or permits for construction, 4197 02:19:50,840 --> 02:19:54,840 then I will know that we do get a lot of complaints about, 4198 02:19:54,840 --> 02:19:57,840 even though they're easy to fix, 4199 02:19:57,840 --> 02:20:00,840 that there's not... Of missing cones. 4200 02:20:00,840 --> 02:20:02,840 And do we have something in there that's... 4201 02:20:02,840 --> 02:20:06,840 Or for instance, you mentioned standing water. 4202 02:20:06,840 --> 02:20:09,840 It's just kind of looking at patterns. 4203 02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:15,840 It's primarily what I'm interested in because in the minutia, 4204 02:20:15,840 --> 02:20:17,840 I know staff is taking care of it 4205 02:20:17,840 --> 02:20:19,840 and I'm not going to be following up on every which one, 4206 02:20:19,840 --> 02:20:24,840 but I want to be aware of the patterns because I know y'all are. 4207 02:20:24,840 --> 02:20:27,840 Sure. No, thank you. I appreciate that. 4208 02:20:27,840 --> 02:20:33,840 So let us look into that and see what we could possibly do 4209 02:20:33,840 --> 02:20:36,840 to address the question that's been asked 4210 02:20:36,840 --> 02:20:39,840 and see what type of additional staff time 4211 02:20:40,000 --> 02:20:41,840 that that might add 4212 02:20:41,840 --> 02:20:44,840 and kind of how we could work through maybe that process 4213 02:20:44,840 --> 02:20:46,840 to see if we could provide additional information. 4214 02:20:46,840 --> 02:20:47,840 Yeah, that would be great. 4215 02:20:47,840 --> 02:20:49,840 And maybe another way to look at it would be, 4216 02:20:49,840 --> 02:20:52,840 is there a way to kind of... 4217 02:20:52,840 --> 02:20:56,840 To do that, that would be also actually helpful for staff. 4218 02:20:56,840 --> 02:21:01,840 You know, that staff would actually like to have for themselves 4219 02:21:01,840 --> 02:21:06,840 a kind of sense of the patterns actually, you know... 4220 02:21:07,000 --> 02:21:09,840 I want to tee up, if I may, another sort of option 4221 02:21:09,840 --> 02:21:11,840 that you may like, Councilmember Arbiter, 4222 02:21:11,840 --> 02:21:17,840 that you sort of want to do the analysis yourself in a way, 4223 02:21:17,840 --> 02:21:20,840 you know, by seeing the raw data. 4224 02:21:20,840 --> 02:21:24,840 But as an alternative, if it turns out to be easier 4225 02:21:24,840 --> 02:21:29,840 and potentially more useful both for you and me and for staff, 4226 02:21:29,840 --> 02:21:32,840 what if at some period that's different than a month, 4227 02:21:32,840 --> 02:21:34,840 maybe it's month, maybe it's quarterly, whatever, 4228 02:21:35,000 --> 02:21:37,840 what if there's simply an analysis of, 4229 02:21:37,840 --> 02:21:42,840 here's requests by type and requests by area. 4230 02:21:42,840 --> 02:21:43,840 You know what I mean? 4231 02:21:43,840 --> 02:21:44,840 So it's already analyzed. 4232 02:21:44,840 --> 02:21:47,840 So you don't have to like be the analyst. 4233 02:21:47,840 --> 02:21:49,840 Oh, yeah, yeah, that would be excellent. 4234 02:21:49,840 --> 02:21:52,840 To me, it sounds like that would require more work. 4235 02:21:52,840 --> 02:21:53,840 But I don't know. 4236 02:21:53,840 --> 02:21:54,840 But I don't know. 4237 02:21:54,840 --> 02:21:56,840 But that is something I would love to see. 4238 02:21:56,840 --> 02:21:58,840 You know, quarterly would be fine, too. 4239 02:21:58,840 --> 02:22:00,840 You know, wouldn't have to be monthly. 4240 02:22:00,840 --> 02:22:01,840 I'm just throwing this out there. 4241 02:22:01,840 --> 02:22:04,840 I hope it's not, you know, too stressful. 4242 02:22:05,000 --> 02:22:08,840 It's just an expression of kind of my looking for patterns 4243 02:22:08,840 --> 02:22:12,840 and always in my knowledge that I have a limited sense 4244 02:22:12,840 --> 02:22:17,840 of what the patterns are because I only see the requests 4245 02:22:17,840 --> 02:22:21,840 that come to me and the requests that are in the Friday report. 4246 02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:22,840 That's all. 4247 02:22:22,840 --> 02:22:23,840 Sure. 4248 02:22:23,840 --> 02:22:25,840 Have we given you enough to-- 4249 02:22:25,840 --> 02:22:26,840 Absolutely. 4250 02:22:26,840 --> 02:22:28,840 --make everyone resign or no? 4251 02:22:28,840 --> 02:22:29,840 Oh, no, sir. 4252 02:22:29,840 --> 02:22:31,840 I'm here for the long haul. 4253 02:22:32,000 --> 02:22:37,840 So I'm happy to listen to those concerns and those ideas. 4254 02:22:37,840 --> 02:22:40,840 And I really like the quarterly update 4255 02:22:40,840 --> 02:22:41,840 and kind of request by type. 4256 02:22:41,840 --> 02:22:44,840 We are, you know, tracking the different things that come 4257 02:22:44,840 --> 02:22:46,840 through because ultimately a lot of those 4258 02:22:46,840 --> 02:22:48,840 become specific projects or they're 4259 02:22:48,840 --> 02:22:50,840 in coordination with the capital project. 4260 02:22:50,840 --> 02:22:51,840 They're a part of our work plan. 4261 02:22:51,840 --> 02:22:55,840 So, you know, I think it's just really listening to your ideas 4262 02:22:55,840 --> 02:22:58,840 and finding the best way that we feel like we can provide 4263 02:22:58,840 --> 02:23:00,840 the data and bring that back to you. 4264 02:23:01,000 --> 02:23:03,840 Where it's a useful document not only for yourselves 4265 02:23:03,840 --> 02:23:04,840 but also for ourselves. 4266 02:23:04,840 --> 02:23:05,840 So-- 4267 02:23:05,840 --> 02:23:06,840 Yeah, I think that's-- 4268 02:23:06,840 --> 02:23:07,840 --no problem. 4269 02:23:07,840 --> 02:23:08,840 --a super good goal. 4270 02:23:08,840 --> 02:23:11,840 Anything else, Councilmember Armitage? 4271 02:23:11,840 --> 02:23:12,840 You're good. 4272 02:23:12,840 --> 02:23:17,840 I have just a couple pretty narrow ones. 4273 02:23:17,840 --> 02:23:21,840 Why are there still barrels at the Bonnie Gray Roundabout? 4274 02:23:21,840 --> 02:23:26,840 I will have to look into that. 4275 02:23:26,840 --> 02:23:29,840 But my assumption is that it is specifically related 4276 02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:33,840 to the North-Southwater Main Phase 3 project in that area. 4277 02:23:33,840 --> 02:23:37,840 And I will look into that and get our inspectors also 4278 02:23:37,840 --> 02:23:38,840 to look into that. 4279 02:23:38,840 --> 02:23:40,840 And then we will address that concern. 4280 02:23:40,840 --> 02:23:41,840 OK, appreciate it. 4281 02:23:41,840 --> 02:23:46,840 And I'll just ask this as broadly as I can. 4282 02:23:46,840 --> 02:23:50,840 Any update on the Hinkle Roundabout? 4283 02:23:50,840 --> 02:23:51,840 Yes, sir. 4284 02:23:51,840 --> 02:23:53,840 The Hinkle Roundabout staff is working 4285 02:23:53,840 --> 02:23:59,840 through the process of speaking with the individual today. 4286 02:24:00,000 --> 02:24:02,840 And they're going to be having a conversation 4287 02:24:02,840 --> 02:24:03,840 with that resident. 4288 02:24:03,840 --> 02:24:05,240 I believe that's happening today. 4289 02:24:05,240 --> 02:24:06,840 It might have happened yesterday, today. 4290 02:24:06,840 --> 02:24:08,840 I don't know if we're talking about the same thing. 4291 02:24:08,840 --> 02:24:10,840 I'm talking about the roundabout itself, 4292 02:24:10,840 --> 02:24:12,840 like the enhancements we're talking about. 4293 02:24:12,840 --> 02:24:13,840 Sure. 4294 02:24:13,840 --> 02:24:16,840 Well, part of the enhancements are going to-- 4295 02:24:16,840 --> 02:24:18,840 I'm sorry, say that one more time. 4296 02:24:18,840 --> 02:24:20,840 I just don't know what individual you're talking about. 4297 02:24:20,840 --> 02:24:21,840 Oh, sure. 4298 02:24:21,840 --> 02:24:24,840 The individual that is going to have the tree that's 4299 02:24:24,840 --> 02:24:26,840 going to have to be removed on our property. 4300 02:24:26,840 --> 02:24:28,840 So it was very important to us to make 4301 02:24:29,000 --> 02:24:30,840 that coordination with that resident. 4302 02:24:30,840 --> 02:24:32,840 Staff will be speaking with that resident. 4303 02:24:32,840 --> 02:24:34,840 We've been working through the next steps 4304 02:24:34,840 --> 02:24:39,640 for the project itself from signage, striping, and then 4305 02:24:39,640 --> 02:24:42,440 also the sidewalk. 4306 02:24:42,440 --> 02:24:46,240 So staff is coordinating that and working through that process. 4307 02:24:46,240 --> 02:24:50,280 And working to-- really, one of the biggest things 4308 02:24:50,280 --> 02:24:53,440 is the tree and working through that step 4309 02:24:53,440 --> 02:24:55,640 so that we can then begin additional construction. 4310 02:24:55,640 --> 02:24:58,840 So our team has been addressing those concerns. 4311 02:24:59,000 --> 02:25:03,840 We've been hoping to get that process completed fairly soon. 4312 02:25:03,840 --> 02:25:04,840 So in progress? 4313 02:25:04,840 --> 02:25:05,840 Yes, sir. 4314 02:25:05,840 --> 02:25:10,840 You think it's like many weeks out or-- 4315 02:25:10,840 --> 02:25:12,840 I would have to double check with our staff. 4316 02:25:12,840 --> 02:25:15,840 But when we're committed to getting it completed, 4317 02:25:15,840 --> 02:25:18,840 the rain is not working in our favor 4318 02:25:18,840 --> 02:25:20,840 currently right now on construction projects. 4319 02:25:20,840 --> 02:25:23,840 I would say that it's probably going to be a couple of months. 4320 02:25:24,000 --> 02:25:30,840 And really, that depends on the actual drying of the area 4321 02:25:30,840 --> 02:25:33,840 just before we can be able to get some of that. 4322 02:25:33,840 --> 02:25:35,840 That's close enough to set my expectations. 4323 02:25:35,840 --> 02:25:36,840 Yeah. 4324 02:25:36,840 --> 02:25:38,840 And really specifically, the couple of months 4325 02:25:38,840 --> 02:25:43,840 is really related to the roundabout signage 4326 02:25:43,840 --> 02:25:47,840 and the additional markings in that area. 4327 02:25:47,840 --> 02:25:49,840 The actual sidewalk construction itself, 4328 02:25:49,840 --> 02:25:52,840 I will have to get back to you on a time frame specifically 4329 02:25:53,000 --> 02:25:55,840 for that because we're still working through the process 4330 02:25:55,840 --> 02:25:56,840 of removing the tree. 4331 02:25:56,840 --> 02:25:58,840 I don't need it that sort of granularly. 4332 02:25:58,840 --> 02:26:03,840 It's any second or it'll be a while. 4333 02:26:03,840 --> 02:26:05,840 It's in progress. 4334 02:26:05,840 --> 02:26:06,840 That much I knew. 4335 02:26:06,840 --> 02:26:07,840 All right. 4336 02:26:07,840 --> 02:26:08,840 Thank you very much. 4337 02:26:08,840 --> 02:26:09,840 That's all I have. 4338 02:26:09,840 --> 02:26:10,840 No problem. 4339 02:26:10,840 --> 02:26:11,840 All right. 4340 02:26:11,840 --> 02:26:16,840 If there's nothing else, that'll conclude item D. 4341 02:26:16,840 --> 02:26:20,840 I don't really know what number two concluding items 4342 02:26:20,840 --> 02:26:21,840 would be other than mine. 4343 02:26:22,000 --> 02:26:23,840 Those were concluding items. 4344 02:26:23,840 --> 02:26:24,840 I know. 4345 02:26:24,840 --> 02:26:27,840 I was kind of unsure at which point we would address this. 4346 02:26:27,840 --> 02:26:32,840 So I'm going to judge that there is nothing else 4347 02:26:32,840 --> 02:26:35,840 and we'll adjourn at 1129. 4348 02:26:35,840 --> 02:26:36,840 Thank you so much, everyone. 4349 02:26:36,840 --> 02:26:38,840 Thank you so much, everyone.