WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.160 I don't know why we can not. 00:00:04.160 --> 00:00:19.320 Well, it's on, it's on the agenda, we can do it. 00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:25.440 So I guess we have the US pledge of allegiance, so I can't see my camera, but I have a flag 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:26.440 behind me. 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:31.560 You do have a flag, thank you so much Stephanie. 00:00:31.560 --> 00:00:39.200 Okay, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the Republic, 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:48.160 which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:48.160 --> 00:00:49.160 Wow. 00:00:49.160 --> 00:00:54.080 Well, the poor computer's working real hard to bring on whoever's talking, that's great. 00:00:54.080 --> 00:01:00.940 Honor the Texas flag, honor the Texas flag, I pledge allegiance to the Texas, one state 00:01:00.940 --> 00:01:04.800 under God, one and indivisible. 00:01:04.800 --> 00:01:11.800 First order of business is we need to approve, consider to approve the meeting minutes from 00:01:11.800 --> 00:01:19.000 April 22nd, 2021, Selena, was there an issue regarding some posting of those meeting minutes 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:23.600 with in regards to attendance? 00:01:23.600 --> 00:01:25.400 I don't believe so. 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:30.000 Did you not email me a question regarding attendance or something, or am I just thinking 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:32.560 you did? 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:33.560 I don't believe so. 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:40.560 Can I chime in, there was, in part of the early part of the minute, and I don't have 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:47.160 them in front of me, forgive me, it did say I was absent, but I wasn't absent, I was there. 00:01:47.160 --> 00:01:48.160 Yes ma'am. 00:01:48.160 --> 00:01:55.920 As not voting in that first vote for chair, because you were muted, so I couldn't get 00:01:55.920 --> 00:02:00.600 your vote on that vote, so that's what I got from the first one. 00:02:00.600 --> 00:02:08.200 But the minutes do that you were present in the beginning of the minute meeting, meeting 00:02:08.200 --> 00:02:09.200 minutes? 00:02:09.200 --> 00:02:13.080 Yes, that's correct. 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:18.120 But do we need to amend that, or do we just, you want to take care of that? 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:21.560 Selena, or am I missing something? 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:29.360 And Selena, I think if we can, if we can maybe modify the minutes to, that Tori Mitchell 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:38.560 was present, was present, however, unable to confirm the vote, her vote. 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:39.560 Amen. 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:41.880 Okay, sure, yeah, I can definitely do that. 00:02:41.880 --> 00:02:42.880 Thank you. 00:02:42.880 --> 00:02:48.360 I appreciate that Mr. Chair, and then your recommendation or somebody's recommendation. 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:56.200 We'll take those meeting minutes as modified and stated, does anybody wish to approve these 00:02:56.200 --> 00:03:02.320 minutes and I need somebody to say something? 00:03:02.320 --> 00:03:06.160 I'll approve these minutes. 00:03:06.160 --> 00:03:11.960 We have, who said that, I'm sorry, I'm looking, Sebastian, there you are, okay. 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:16.360 So Sebastian made a motion to approve the meeting minutes as stated. 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:17.880 All those in favor? 00:03:17.880 --> 00:03:18.880 Aye. 00:03:18.880 --> 00:03:19.880 Aye. 00:03:19.880 --> 00:03:20.880 Sorry, Mr. Coward. 00:03:20.880 --> 00:03:21.880 Yes, what did I miss? 00:03:21.880 --> 00:03:24.880 A second for that motion. 00:03:24.880 --> 00:03:27.920 Oh, I forgot, we do need a second. 00:03:27.920 --> 00:03:28.920 I apologize. 00:03:28.920 --> 00:03:29.920 I'll second that motion. 00:03:29.920 --> 00:03:35.480 David, David and Tori both seconded the. 00:03:35.480 --> 00:03:38.240 All those in favor say aye. 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:39.240 Aye. 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:40.240 Aye. 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:46.200 All those opposed, let the record state that it was approved. 00:03:46.200 --> 00:03:51.560 Mr. Chair, just a note for Selena, just to recognize that David Mullen is present. 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:54.840 I am present. 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:55.840 I am here. 00:03:55.840 --> 00:03:56.840 Thank you. 00:03:56.840 --> 00:04:01.960 I think I was muted before when you had roll call. 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:06.120 Yeah, she just couldn't confirm it, so I just wanted to make sure. 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:07.120 Thank you. 00:04:07.120 --> 00:04:10.480 You are physically present, good to see you, David. 00:04:10.480 --> 00:04:11.480 Yeah. 00:04:11.480 --> 00:04:12.480 Thanks for saying something. 00:04:12.480 --> 00:04:18.280 The first order of business is to receive a report and hold a discussion and given by 00:04:18.280 --> 00:04:26.360 the staff on relating the processes for the update of the new construction codes and standards. 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:31.480 That would be the international code, the building, the fire, existing building, residential 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:37.560 mechanical plumbing, fuel, gas, swimming pools, energy code, and national electric code. 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:41.040 Who is speaking to that? 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:44.760 I'm going to briefly begin and I'm going to let Emily chime in. 00:04:44.760 --> 00:04:49.360 Emily's been doing all of the heavy lifting, so I have the voice for the, I have the face 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:51.600 for radio. 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:59.840 So here I am, but you've received a number of really just preliminary drafts. 00:04:59.840 --> 00:05:02.460 Those are not ordinances that we're proposing. 00:05:02.460 --> 00:05:08.320 Those are truly just what that's going to look like, what a final product is going to 00:05:08.320 --> 00:05:09.880 look like. 00:05:09.880 --> 00:05:15.120 Emily is finalizing a, really it's going to be a worksheet. 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:22.640 It's a little easier to understand that will provide you with the section that we are proposing 00:05:22.640 --> 00:05:25.280 to amend. 00:05:25.280 --> 00:05:31.520 It will work through the typical, we'll quote the entire section. 00:05:31.520 --> 00:05:35.180 We will do strike through if we're omitting any language. 00:05:35.180 --> 00:05:39.800 We will do underline for any language that's going to be added. 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:42.960 So you'll get the section of the code. 00:05:42.960 --> 00:05:47.360 You'll get the language that's being proposed to be changed, and then it'll give you an 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:48.800 intent statement. 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:55.560 So the intent of the change, why we're proposing the change, what that need is, and what we'll 00:05:55.560 --> 00:06:03.040 do is we'll walk through each of those items, but it was easiest at least to get the committee. 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:04.980 We're not putting that out for public record. 00:06:04.980 --> 00:06:06.800 We ask that you don't share those. 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:11.360 That is not, and I repeat, that is not a draft ordinance. 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:16.800 Those are just an example for you to understand what the final product will look like. 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:24.320 The working documents will be coming out before our next meeting, and then we'll go through 00:06:24.320 --> 00:06:30.800 systematically each of the codes in each of those sections. 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:36.240 All the while, we'll make sure that we invite subject matter experts to speak on behalf 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:42.560 of, and maybe for demonstration purposes for our next meeting. 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:47.560 Mr. Chair, if you wouldn't mind, I'd like to just go ahead, and we'd start off with 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:55.480 the mechanical, and we can use the mechanical as an example at our next meeting on how we're 00:06:55.480 --> 00:07:03.840 going to walk through the code changes and utilize you or your staff just to make any 00:07:03.840 --> 00:07:06.800 comments or to kind of roll through that. 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:13.040 How long do you believe you're going to have until those suggested changes will be sent 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:14.040 out? 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:18.160 They'll probably be out by Monday, I would assume. 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:20.160 Emily, you want to comment on that? 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:25.180 Yeah, I'll have those out by Monday at the latest. 00:07:25.180 --> 00:07:30.560 She can start sending them out one by one as she gets them, but keep in mind, and just 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:33.880 start with the mechanical, Emily. 00:07:33.880 --> 00:07:42.040 The mechanical has probably half a dozen sections, I think, we're changing, and then I'm going 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:49.240 to repeat myself, and sometimes I'm redundant, so just bear with me. 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:56.040 We went through this process not so long ago for the 2018 codes. 00:07:56.040 --> 00:08:02.440 We have vetted this pretty strongly, and Mr. Chair, if you recall, we walked through this 00:08:02.440 --> 00:08:07.740 pretty diligently, we even got neighboring communities involved. 00:08:07.740 --> 00:08:14.840 Really we're taking the work that was done by the previous Habsco board, David will remember 00:08:14.840 --> 00:08:20.960 as well, Sebastian, so a lot of this is not going to be new material to you. 00:08:20.960 --> 00:08:26.880 There are very few changes that we're bringing forward that are going to differentiate from 00:08:26.880 --> 00:08:27.880 where we were. 00:08:27.880 --> 00:08:35.560 I will tell you the good news is the office of the fire marshal has worked very diligently 00:08:35.560 --> 00:08:43.880 and has reduced quite a number of their proposed changes, and I'm an advocate of that we have 00:08:43.880 --> 00:08:45.820 a nationally vetted standard. 00:08:45.820 --> 00:08:50.120 We have a standard that is truly the national code. 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:58.680 It is adopted by the state of Texas as a Texas state code, and the fewer changes or amendments 00:08:58.680 --> 00:09:05.200 we have is a much better tool for everyone involved. 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:10.480 I do appreciate the office of the fire marshal in reducing the number of amendments that 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:11.800 are there. 00:09:11.800 --> 00:09:18.680 As we've reviewed these, we've also made some reductions in number of amendments, but we'll 00:09:18.680 --> 00:09:25.560 walk through all of those very carefully and we'll also provide a high level, just a discussion 00:09:25.560 --> 00:09:26.640 of the code. 00:09:26.640 --> 00:09:32.140 For example, the international mechanical code regulates air conditioning systems. 00:09:32.140 --> 00:09:37.740 People think of air conditioning systems as being cold, but it's heat and coal and a variety 00:09:37.740 --> 00:09:47.800 other sources that would use some sort of energy to convert energy into conditioned space. 00:09:47.800 --> 00:09:49.640 We'll walk through what that code is. 00:09:49.640 --> 00:09:56.280 We'll walk through, when we begin this process, we'll literally walk through a code book as 00:09:56.280 --> 00:10:00.720 an example to give you the layout of the code. 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:05.680 Most likely we will go into the residential code because it's going to be easiest for 00:10:05.680 --> 00:10:12.640 all of the users and all of those that are participating online to get a better understanding 00:10:12.640 --> 00:10:14.880 of how the code is set up. 00:10:14.880 --> 00:10:16.920 All of the codes are very similar. 00:10:16.920 --> 00:10:20.000 They start with the text. 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:23.560 It shows the text as it's written today. 00:10:23.560 --> 00:10:30.360 It provides some notes in the margins to show where text has been added, where text has 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:32.600 been removed. 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:37.080 A user could look at a previous edition of the code to see what language wasn't there 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:41.480 or what language was there that is no longer there. 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:45.900 We'll explain that chapter one deals with administration. 00:10:45.900 --> 00:10:48.260 Chapter two is definitions. 00:10:48.260 --> 00:10:53.720 Chapter three gets into the meat and potatoes of how the code works. 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:59.480 The subsequent chapters get into the details on specific sections or systems within, whether 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:05.280 it's the building code or the mechanical code or the fuel gas code. 00:11:05.280 --> 00:11:10.800 They're very similar in nature, very technical. 00:11:10.800 --> 00:11:14.960 We're going to just do our best to make sure that we simplify the process for everyone 00:11:14.960 --> 00:11:21.120 that's going to be viewing this online. 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:26.000 Don't expect that we'll be too greatly challenged by any of these. 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:31.280 Again, we'll start off with the mechanical just because I think that'll be a good simple 00:11:31.280 --> 00:11:32.280 one. 00:11:32.280 --> 00:11:35.840 I will tell you, we could start off with the electrical. 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:42.320 I don't know if some of you that were on before, and I can't tell you how many pages of amendments 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:49.800 we currently have on electrical, but I will tell you that we have zero, and I say again 00:11:49.800 --> 00:11:55.000 zero, recommended changes to the 2020 National Electric Code. 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:59.400 We're going to adopt the National Electric Code as written. 00:11:59.400 --> 00:12:04.360 I think all of those items make your cooler, and I think it serves the citizens of Dent 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:06.960 in a much better way. 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:08.840 Emily? 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:09.840 Thank you, Scott. 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:16.120 When you do send those out, will you make sure you send a note at the top is, like Scott 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:20.080 said, which ones are being modified, how they're being modified, the striped throughs. 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:27.080 It's going to make it a lot quicker to understand once I think we get used to it. 00:12:27.080 --> 00:12:28.080 Sure. 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:29.080 Emily, I think- 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:32.840 I don't think we have the ability to share screens, correct? 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:35.640 It looks like we do at the bottom of the- 00:12:35.640 --> 00:12:38.800 Do you want to try and share one of those sheets, Emily? 00:12:38.800 --> 00:12:40.120 I sure will. 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:45.800 Emily, I know that before we did stuff, some of that stuff was in red. 00:12:45.800 --> 00:12:48.920 Are we going to do the colors again, too? 00:12:48.920 --> 00:12:51.520 I don't have them in colors. 00:12:51.520 --> 00:12:53.680 No, no, no. 00:12:53.680 --> 00:12:59.120 We can add the colors as we talk about if the committee is proposing to make changes. 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:00.120 Okay. 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:02.280 We absolutely could do that, David. 00:13:02.280 --> 00:13:06.680 What we're going to start with is just a clean document of this is the standpoint that we're 00:13:06.680 --> 00:13:08.840 working from. 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:16.280 Again, we had all of those codes completed and ready to submit to city council, so we 00:13:16.280 --> 00:13:18.680 had made it that far. 00:13:18.680 --> 00:13:22.920 We're just going to reset the bar at zero and say we're going on the premise of the 00:13:22.920 --> 00:13:27.720 recommendation of where we were before, and then now just highlight what those changes 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:31.920 are as the committee sees fit. 00:13:31.920 --> 00:13:36.760 I have a quick question for Emily. 00:13:36.760 --> 00:13:46.560 What is with the ICC website thing? 00:13:46.560 --> 00:13:49.320 That's going to be her next item. 00:13:49.320 --> 00:13:50.320 Right. 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:53.480 Yeah, we're going to go over that. 00:13:53.480 --> 00:14:00.640 We've got a lot on that, a lot of learning curve, I guess you could say. 00:14:00.640 --> 00:14:07.600 We just got that in, I want to say end of last week, and we're working on getting that 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:11.760 where it's real easy for you to get in and understand it. 00:14:11.760 --> 00:14:20.680 I put a bunch of notes in, and they're gone, so I've got to learn a little bit better. 00:14:20.680 --> 00:14:24.400 I'm going to get in there probably tomorrow and just really dig in. 00:14:24.400 --> 00:14:33.480 And Sebastian, what we can do in the interim, so these codes have all recently been published 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:35.120 to this premium. 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:46.560 Premium is new for us, thought it would be much more convenient for the commission, however, 00:14:46.560 --> 00:14:52.840 there's a learning curve for us as well as for you, but we can send you, which is out 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:56.600 on our website as well, and I think Emily had already sent it. 00:14:56.600 --> 00:15:10.080 If anyone wants to go to ICC safe.org, ICC safe.org, or you can do a Google search of 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:16.240 international codes online, you can get to each of these codes and you can click through 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:22.800 them very simply, chapter one, chapter two, chapter three, all of the sections that will 00:15:22.800 --> 00:15:29.320 be referenced on the sheets that Emily is going to show you will correspond. 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:35.640 So if you're looking at the plumbing code, and it says section 705, you go to chapter 00:15:35.640 --> 00:15:41.120 seven, and then you can just drill down to 705, and then you can see the text is written 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:42.120 in the code. 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:49.080 It'll be a little easier, what you have in the premium edition allows you to copy and 00:15:49.080 --> 00:15:55.840 paste and markup and do screenshots, and so truly it's a much more functional tool that's 00:15:55.840 --> 00:16:00.320 designed for people that are in the business of doing. 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:06.220 So there are two vehicles for you to use, and certainly just going to the public site 00:16:06.220 --> 00:16:12.080 and using that tool may be simplest in the interim, but we're going to provide you with 00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:16.480 what we're going to be doing in the upcoming meeting, so you don't have to go through all 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:20.480 of those ordinances and all of those codes right now. 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:24.440 We'll focus on the mechanical code next week and probably begin into the residential code, 00:16:24.440 --> 00:16:30.240 because I think that'll give the best understanding for the commission as well as anyone that's 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:32.360 watching online or wanting to participate. 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:44.240 Yeah, it's a little tricky. 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:48.960 There's a little spot that looks like a little icon at the very top, and it doesn't look 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:52.920 like anything really, except like a little picture. 00:16:52.920 --> 00:16:57.500 We'll build some screenshots, Sebastian, we'll give you some screenshots and simplify it. 00:16:57.500 --> 00:17:03.680 I was doing it today, so absolutely understand where you're at. 00:17:03.680 --> 00:17:08.400 So what Emily's pulled up for you is really the format in which we're going to be working 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:09.880 through each of these codes. 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:15.160 This is what we're going to distribute to the public and publish online, so people are 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:16.920 able to see. 00:17:16.920 --> 00:17:21.520 It starts off at the top, and it tells that these are the recommended amendments to the 00:17:21.520 --> 00:17:26.240 2021, and this is the example of the International Mechanical Code. 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:33.840 And so as you see, it gives you an explanation of the underlined type. 00:17:33.840 --> 00:17:37.480 Underlined type is text which has been inserted. 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:43.800 Strike through means that we've deleted it, and then anything else, the double asterisk, 00:17:43.800 --> 00:17:47.800 et cetera, will kind of correspond with the code. 00:17:47.800 --> 00:17:51.340 So as you look, you'll see it'll be going in order. 00:17:51.340 --> 00:17:59.360 So section 101 is the title, and we will look out where the published code says name of 00:17:59.360 --> 00:18:00.360 jurisdiction. 00:18:00.360 --> 00:18:06.240 We'll do a strike through, and then we'll underline and insert the city of Denver. 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:11.260 And then so you'll see in every one of those, which will correspond to the draft ordinances 00:18:11.260 --> 00:18:14.960 that you've already received. 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:21.360 And below that, it says reason, but that gives you the rationale as to why are we doing this 00:18:21.360 --> 00:18:22.360 change. 00:18:22.360 --> 00:18:29.280 And as this one states, it's a standard insertion point to assist with local adoption, and we're 00:18:29.280 --> 00:18:31.700 not changing anything. 00:18:31.700 --> 00:18:37.720 Same thing if you go down to the next. 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:43.760 When he says no changing, that means it hasn't changed from the last adopted code. 00:18:43.760 --> 00:18:47.880 It's very similar to what we, right? 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:54.280 It is a change, a small change from the code, but not a change from what we previously adopted. 00:18:54.280 --> 00:19:02.200 Yeah, no change for us. 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:07.840 So another good example, and it'd be the same on every one of the forms. 00:19:07.840 --> 00:19:17.080 All of these top in section one, the vast majority of these will correspond and correlate 00:19:17.080 --> 00:19:18.320 to each of the codes. 00:19:18.320 --> 00:19:22.920 So there's this section that is printed in the code that says work commencing before 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:25.440 permit issuance. 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:29.480 And the text in the code says 100% of the usual permit fee. 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:33.320 Well, we're not allowed to do that by law. 00:19:33.320 --> 00:19:36.560 We can't just charge 100%. 00:19:36.560 --> 00:19:43.280 Texas law provides that truly it's got to be relative to the cost of doing business. 00:19:43.280 --> 00:19:46.280 So we adopt our fees by separate ordinance. 00:19:46.280 --> 00:19:51.540 This refers the user to Chapter 28 in the municipal code of ordinances where our fee 00:19:51.540 --> 00:19:53.240 adoption is. 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:55.800 So just kind of get you there. 00:19:55.800 --> 00:19:59.300 Same with the next section. 00:19:59.300 --> 00:20:01.400 They have some fees that are in there. 00:20:01.400 --> 00:20:04.620 So we're going to delete the entirety of that section. 00:20:04.620 --> 00:20:08.080 So we didn't bother to put it in there and do strikeout. 00:20:08.080 --> 00:20:21.720 The whole section is gone because we have that piece already in our code. 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:23.680 Stop work order is much the same. 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:30.160 So where it is and how we do it in accordance with our local code, again, you'll see the 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:36.240 reason it's a standard insertion point, but it assists with our local adoption. 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:40.040 Here's a good one that would be one that's very appropriate for this board. 00:20:40.040 --> 00:20:42.720 So means of appeal. 00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:46.160 So we have struck the entire section. 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:48.840 That's why all of this is underlined. 00:20:48.840 --> 00:20:55.360 And then we have the language that we will use in all of our codes, which will be consistent 00:20:55.360 --> 00:21:00.920 in order to hear and decide appeals of orders, decisions, or determinations made by the building 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:09.160 official because the different codes have different terms to the application or interpretation 00:21:09.160 --> 00:21:17.080 of the requirements of this code or any other and there shall be in building standards commission. 00:21:17.080 --> 00:21:20.320 Thank you very much for your service, by the way. 00:21:20.320 --> 00:21:26.880 And then see article X, that doesn't necessarily exist, we're just when we're going to adopt 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:31.480 these codes, we're really going to have some of our sections of the municipal code. 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:35.920 So when we work with our legal department, we'll make sure all of those correlate. 00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:46.520 But ultimately, it'll say see chapter, whatever it is of the municipal code. 00:21:46.520 --> 00:21:55.920 Okay, so many of you should remember this one, 306 changes to, you know, appliances 00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:57.360 and addicts. 00:21:57.360 --> 00:22:01.860 I think we spent quite a little bit of time on this, if I recall. 00:22:01.860 --> 00:22:10.680 So at a minimum where it is, we left, if you read this section 306.3, appliances and addicts, 00:22:10.680 --> 00:22:14.560 it says add following sentence to the end of the paragraph. 00:22:14.560 --> 00:22:20.400 So that means that the text will all remain in place, I'm going to add another sentence. 00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:27.400 As a minimum for access to the addict space, provide one of the following, a permanent 00:22:27.400 --> 00:22:33.800 stair, a pull down stair with a minimum 300 pound capacity, an access door from an upper 00:22:33.800 --> 00:22:35.120 floor level. 00:22:35.120 --> 00:22:37.400 And again, we say why? 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:42.280 To provide safety and ease of access for homeowner and service personnel, and it's really no 00:22:42.280 --> 00:22:46.680 change from what we've been doing to the past. 00:22:46.680 --> 00:22:50.840 So I won't, well, I was going to say, I won't go any further, but that's actually the end 00:22:50.840 --> 00:22:52.640 of the mechanical section. 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:56.200 So you see the word end means we're done. 00:22:56.200 --> 00:22:59.700 So those are the only changes we're proposing to the mechanical code. 00:22:59.700 --> 00:23:04.280 And I was really just going to ask if this makes sense to everybody, if I need to clarify 00:23:04.280 --> 00:23:05.280 anything. 00:23:05.280 --> 00:23:12.980 I didn't know no longer than some of these are we may be able to do multiples on certain 00:23:12.980 --> 00:23:13.980 days. 00:23:13.980 --> 00:23:14.980 Absolutely. 00:23:14.980 --> 00:23:15.980 Absolutely. 00:23:15.980 --> 00:23:19.440 The electrical may be not, well, I guess we can. 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:21.760 You said it hardly has any changes. 00:23:21.760 --> 00:23:22.760 Zero. 00:23:22.760 --> 00:23:23.760 Zero. 00:23:23.760 --> 00:23:24.760 Zero. 00:23:24.760 --> 00:23:28.060 More conversation in the swimming pool and other codes. 00:23:28.060 --> 00:23:31.760 What you sent the other day is what we're looking at right now on our screen. 00:23:31.760 --> 00:23:32.760 Is that correct? 00:23:32.760 --> 00:23:39.720 No, it was similar and similar, but those are really what the final product, final product 00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:45.720 of what the commission will be rec, the city council will be by virtue of those ordinances. 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:49.040 But those are, those are not even really draft. 00:23:49.040 --> 00:23:53.620 That's just an example for you to see what each of those are going to look like. 00:23:53.620 --> 00:23:59.640 And as we walk through it, um, these sheets will be the ones that you'll get this week. 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:04.720 And then it'll really give you kind of the roadmap on the direction that we will go going 00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:05.720 forward. 00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:12.640 Um, staff will just recommend that we'll, we'll start with the, I say, and then, uh, 00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:16.720 maybe, or, or we can start off, I guess, Mr. Chair, with whatever you like, if you'd like 00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:22.160 to start with a residential code and kind of give the foundation for all of it. 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:29.360 We can talk through those points or we can walk through each of the trade codes and maybe 00:24:29.360 --> 00:24:38.040 it's a little simpler than when the residential code, let me back up, um, the, the, the foundation 00:24:38.040 --> 00:24:45.160 for the codes that we adopt in the city of Denton is the international building code. 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:49.000 The international building code is really that parent document. 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:52.320 And from that is, is a number of siblings. 00:24:52.320 --> 00:24:57.880 So first go to the building code and then the building code says building a building, 00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:04.360 you must follow this code except if you're building a one and two family dwelling, you 00:25:04.360 --> 00:25:07.800 use the international residential code. 00:25:07.800 --> 00:25:13.680 So there's your first carve out and it says, okay, so now I have to go to a different book. 00:25:13.680 --> 00:25:19.480 Um, then it will say, if you're going to look at mechanical systems, you use the mechanical 00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:20.480 code. 00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:24.520 If you're going to look at plumbing, you look at the plumbing code, energy, you look at 00:25:24.520 --> 00:25:29.280 the international energy conservation code, et cetera. 00:25:29.280 --> 00:25:34.880 So the parent book being the building code and then each of the other codes kind of are 00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:38.660 the, are the children of that parent document. 00:25:38.660 --> 00:25:42.480 So we can take, we have two, a couple of different approaches we can take. 00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:47.840 We can, we can start with the residential code because I think everyone can reset, you 00:25:47.840 --> 00:25:53.720 know, resonate to a single family dwelling and understand kind of the concepts. 00:25:53.720 --> 00:25:58.200 The residential code is different than the rest of the code books that it kind of builds 00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:01.320 the book like you build a house. 00:26:01.320 --> 00:26:05.920 It starts with the administration, meaning that yet you have to get a permit. 00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:13.300 You have to get inspection and then it goes into definitions and then the next chapter 00:26:13.300 --> 00:26:17.880 gets into all of the requirements to be able to build it, meaning the wind load, the snow 00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:28.560 load, earthquake, et cetera, et cetera, tells smoke alarms and all of those building items. 00:26:28.560 --> 00:26:31.760 Chapter four will then get into foundations. 00:26:31.760 --> 00:26:36.220 What's the next thing after you do, after you put a foundation in, you build walls. 00:26:36.220 --> 00:26:38.820 So then it goes into walls. 00:26:38.820 --> 00:26:44.000 After walls, it goes to roofs, after roofs, it goes to roof covering, then it starts getting 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:46.340 into the mechanical systems. 00:26:46.340 --> 00:26:52.700 So the, the, the residential code contains every code, all of the provisions for all 00:26:52.700 --> 00:27:00.160 of the codes in one book, because you're all single family homes, basically the same, different 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:03.440 than that of when we started talking about commercial construction, because it could 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:09.560 be high rise or it could be, you know, any number of different types of things. 00:27:09.560 --> 00:27:15.440 So we can, we can address this and I guess Mr. Chair, you can ask the committee, you 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.800 can make a decision, you can give staff direction. 00:27:18.800 --> 00:27:23.440 If you'd like to walk through each of the trade codes, or if you'd like to start with 00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:28.120 maybe the residential code and kind of get this overall feeling of how all that works 00:27:28.120 --> 00:27:33.000 together and then we can start getting into details on each of the, each of the separate 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:34.000 codes. 00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:36.440 Emily, I see you shaking your head. 00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:41.880 I think I would refer to staff and which one they believe they would have ready first. 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:45.340 We probably want to start with the building code. 00:27:45.340 --> 00:27:47.920 I thought that was an exceptional idea. 00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:52.680 I'm sure everybody on this whole team would agree that's where they wanted to start as 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:53.680 well. 00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:54.680 Okay. 00:27:54.680 --> 00:28:03.720 So you're going to work on the building codes first, Emily, is that what I understand and 00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:08.200 you will be picking the one that you have or the, if we're going to do the mechanical 00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:12.480 in particular, we know we could, we've almost gone through that already. 00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:16.520 So you may want to have three or four of them ready to go. 00:28:16.520 --> 00:28:19.120 And hopefully we can get to that many. 00:28:19.120 --> 00:28:26.160 This being an open meeting, Scott, we, whatever is on the agenda is what we have to deal with. 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:29.880 So we need to be cautious that we don't put too much on the agenda or not enough. 00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:32.380 Is that true? 00:28:32.380 --> 00:28:40.040 So we'll probably retain the same, the same sort of, and Stephanie can chime in if she 00:28:40.040 --> 00:28:42.920 sees any arm. 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:48.320 But if you read that capture as receiver report, hold the discussion and give staff direction 00:28:48.320 --> 00:28:52.580 relating to all of those codes. 00:28:52.580 --> 00:29:02.780 So we'll, we'll produce an agenda and certainly make it available for or send it to the commission. 00:29:02.780 --> 00:29:06.720 So all of the commissioners know really where they need to do their homework. 00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:14.560 I don't expect the commissioners to read literally thousands of pages of text before next week, 00:29:14.560 --> 00:29:17.240 because we won't make it through all of those codes. 00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:25.120 But what we will do is provide you with the order in which we are suggesting to go and 00:29:25.120 --> 00:29:27.920 for what you should be prepared for. 00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:36.040 And then we'll probably add something, we'll probably put something on the agenda to say 00:29:36.040 --> 00:29:42.120 that we will specifically start with and talk about this code. 00:29:42.120 --> 00:29:48.640 So then that way, we can get interest from the from the general public, as well as trades 00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:51.280 people to be able to participate. 00:29:51.280 --> 00:29:53.520 So we'll do both. 00:29:53.520 --> 00:29:54.520 Okay. 00:29:54.520 --> 00:29:58.560 And it looks like Stephanie shaking her head. 00:29:58.560 --> 00:30:02.000 So I guess she agreed legally. 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:05.000 That's okay. 00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:10.720 That was my only concern, because we do need to get as much as we possibly can. 00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:14.000 Does that conclude item B? 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:15.000 I'm sorry to interrupt. 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:21.840 I just wanted to state for the record that Mr. Michael sider is now president. 00:30:21.840 --> 00:30:22.840 Thank you. 00:30:22.840 --> 00:30:23.840 Welcome. 00:30:23.840 --> 00:30:26.280 Nice to see you, Michael. 00:30:26.280 --> 00:30:28.360 Thanks for joining us. 00:30:28.360 --> 00:30:32.160 And on the posting issue, we need to stay on posting. 00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:36.600 But because these are intertwined codes, we could like venture off to a little issue with 00:30:36.600 --> 00:30:37.600 another one. 00:30:37.600 --> 00:30:42.080 So there might be a way to write it like we're going to talk about the electrical code today 00:30:42.080 --> 00:30:50.160 and any tangential issues with other codes or something that may relate so that we're 00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:53.400 notifying the public, hey, this is our focus. 00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:57.320 You know, they may they're going to intertwine, correct? 00:30:57.320 --> 00:30:59.160 Yes, Stephanie. 00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:05.220 So I don't know that you've seen the agenda. 00:31:05.220 --> 00:31:11.640 But if you take a peek at the agenda at some point later, it's a receiver report, it lists 00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:14.000 out all of the codes. 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:24.520 And then, and maybe if we add a second sentence to that, with a phone on code A, code B, and 00:31:24.520 --> 00:31:30.920 code C as time permits, and any other discussions relevant to those codes. 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:31.920 Right. 00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:33.960 Like for today, that's great, because we're talking about all of them. 00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:38.060 But when we're focusing on one, so that that lets people know we're going to focus on these 00:31:38.060 --> 00:31:42.920 one, two or three, but there's not really probably a way to only talk about those since 00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:44.040 they intertwine. 00:31:44.040 --> 00:31:46.520 So like, I think your idea is perfect. 00:31:46.520 --> 00:31:48.200 Okay, awesome. 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:49.200 Thank you. 00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:50.200 Thanks for the clarification. 00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:58.120 It may have been silly question to ask, but we are looking for input. 00:31:58.120 --> 00:32:02.880 That concludes item B of the current agenda. 00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:08.440 Emily, did you have more to kind of walk through? 00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:14.080 You're muted, Emily. 00:32:14.080 --> 00:32:15.080 Sorry. 00:32:15.080 --> 00:32:23.800 Yeah, we definitely can walk through like the building code amendments if we want to. 00:32:23.800 --> 00:32:24.800 Not necessarily today. 00:32:24.800 --> 00:32:30.640 I think we want to get them that the kind of the narrative sheets first. 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:39.680 So we'll send those out and so you may receive a several different emails with those documents. 00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:44.280 So you just have them in as soon as you can get them, rather than getting all three of 00:32:44.280 --> 00:32:47.960 them at once or whatever the case may be. 00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:52.560 Is there anything else on the code piece or the online piece that you want to talk through, 00:32:52.560 --> 00:32:53.800 Emily? 00:32:53.800 --> 00:33:00.680 I just wanted to make sure everybody got the email to the link to sign up at ICC. 00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:02.760 I think that's the first step. 00:33:02.760 --> 00:33:07.360 And then I'm going to get a little bit more detailed step on how to actually access the 00:33:07.360 --> 00:33:08.360 codes. 00:33:08.360 --> 00:33:12.840 So, so the actual registration is pretty simple. 00:33:12.840 --> 00:33:18.760 Just basic information, I think, name and address, I don't know, email address, something 00:33:18.760 --> 00:33:21.600 like that, and a password. 00:33:21.600 --> 00:33:27.360 Yeah, they send you an access code once you put in the basic information, Emily. 00:33:27.360 --> 00:33:28.360 Okay. 00:33:28.360 --> 00:33:29.360 Great. 00:33:29.360 --> 00:33:30.360 Okay. 00:33:30.360 --> 00:33:42.000 Anybody have any additional questions regarding item B of the receive report we've been discussing? 00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:49.360 You know, I guess one other piece, and then, Emily, you are, I don't know if you have more 00:33:49.360 --> 00:33:52.640 tools than me to show your screen. 00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:57.360 You kind of cut out on all that, Scott. 00:33:57.360 --> 00:33:58.360 Sorry. 00:33:58.360 --> 00:33:59.840 Can you start over? 00:33:59.840 --> 00:34:07.320 Well, so we're creating a page to allow people to provide written input. 00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:09.040 Is that out there? 00:34:09.040 --> 00:34:10.040 It's not. 00:34:10.040 --> 00:34:15.160 We're wanting to put these amendments or proposed amendments up with that. 00:34:15.160 --> 00:34:19.160 So we'll get that cleaned up real quick. 00:34:19.160 --> 00:34:26.600 We'll share that link with the committee, encourage you to talk to others. 00:34:26.600 --> 00:34:29.600 We certainly want community participation. 00:34:29.600 --> 00:34:35.960 We want to make sure we get this in front of people in ways that we can, so invite your 00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:43.760 friends, they'll still be your friends, have to sit through a meeting with us, but we really 00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:47.960 want to make sure that the community is engaged in the part of it. 00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:52.880 When we get a little further down the road and it's more refined, we'll have a presentation 00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:58.680 to kind of outline each of these codes, and we'll probably hold a couple of town halls 00:34:58.680 --> 00:35:03.200 to make sure the community has an opportunity to weigh in. 00:35:03.200 --> 00:35:13.720 Scott, when is the city council voting whether we'll be able to meet in person? 00:35:13.720 --> 00:35:16.280 Do we know that? 00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:17.280 Don't know that. 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:21.000 I don't think it'll be anything before June 1. 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:28.520 I did broach the subject of whether we're able to meet in person, and I'm somewhat awaiting 00:35:28.520 --> 00:35:29.520 that. 00:35:29.520 --> 00:35:34.120 I think there's I guess a couple different things with that. 00:35:34.120 --> 00:35:37.340 We can certainly reach more people this way. 00:35:37.340 --> 00:35:40.640 We have the opportunity to reach more people this way. 00:35:40.640 --> 00:35:46.620 We certainly have the space to be able to meet in person and socially distance, and 00:35:46.620 --> 00:35:53.720 we'll have a parking lot to invite everybody to our new building here in the next two weeks, 00:35:53.720 --> 00:35:58.360 so that'll be ideal, and I really would like to see everybody. 00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:00.520 It's just a question. 00:36:00.520 --> 00:36:08.440 Okay, so that concludes item B on the items of consideration. 00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:14.200 The next item, we may have already spoken about this, is to receive a report and hold 00:36:14.200 --> 00:36:20.000 a discussion given by the staff regarding upcoming meeting schedule. 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:26.840 I'm guessing we're still meeting every Thursday 3 to 5 if that works for everybody, anticipating 00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:33.320 that we do get these amended or doctored codes to us in timely fashion. 00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:39.240 I think there may be an issue with that on the city's end. 00:36:39.240 --> 00:36:51.080 Selena had given me some dates, and it wasn't in line with what we're doing, so I don't 00:36:51.080 --> 00:36:57.320 know if you want me to just send those out and see if people can attend those, because 00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:00.600 they are different days and different times. 00:37:00.600 --> 00:37:07.680 You're talking about we can't meet every Thursday is what you're saying, due to other links 00:37:07.680 --> 00:37:10.200 and issues with the city access? 00:37:10.200 --> 00:37:11.200 Right. 00:37:11.200 --> 00:37:15.200 It's other departments having meetings at those same times. 00:37:15.200 --> 00:37:20.540 I guess I ask all those members on the board, what would be best for you? 00:37:20.540 --> 00:37:26.440 Would it be best if she sends out a list of times and days and we attempt to fill in and 00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:30.960 agree upon, or would it be best it now? 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:36.000 Yeah, I can give you those times right now as well, so just so... 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:41.180 Do you have that, Emily, that you can put it on the screen? 00:37:41.180 --> 00:37:43.600 I do. 00:37:43.600 --> 00:37:46.880 I won't be able to see the screen, I'm outside my son's dentist office. 00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:52.240 We can say them out loud, thank you, Tori. 00:37:52.240 --> 00:37:54.240 Thank you. 00:37:54.240 --> 00:37:59.800 I only say that just so people can get an idea, be able to visualize, and maybe look 00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:00.800 at the... 00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:03.440 You need to blow it up. 00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:06.440 Thanks Scott, I appreciate that. 00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:07.440 You might do it. 00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:08.440 There we go. 00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:09.440 Keep going. 00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:10.440 Tori. 00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:11.440 Greg's on the call. 00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:12.440 Tori, are you there? 00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:17.120 There you go, thank you. 00:38:17.120 --> 00:38:18.120 Yes, I am. 00:38:18.120 --> 00:38:19.120 I'm here. 00:38:19.120 --> 00:38:22.840 Tori, do you have a piece of paper to make some notes? 00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:25.160 Yes, I do. 00:38:25.160 --> 00:38:31.560 We can send the dates out, just wanted to kind of talk through it. 00:38:31.560 --> 00:38:40.520 So if we just look at next week, Thursday, we don't have consistency on Thursday, however, 00:38:40.520 --> 00:38:48.720 Friday, May the 14th, and Friday, May the 28th, were available from 8 a.m. till let's 00:38:48.720 --> 00:38:53.320 just call it noon on both of those days. 00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:57.000 Those are the only two days that are really consistent. 00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:07.160 If everybody wanted a consistent time, otherwise, we have kind of some odd times that we can... 00:39:07.160 --> 00:39:11.760 Again, we can send this out and we just need people's response. 00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:19.440 Just didn't know if, again, Friday morning on the 14th and Friday morning on the 12th 00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:21.080 would work for everybody. 00:39:21.080 --> 00:39:23.680 It won't work. 00:39:23.680 --> 00:39:26.480 Go ahead, Tori. 00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:29.200 Well, it won't work for me. 00:39:29.200 --> 00:39:36.480 My son has his annual allergy appointment at the Children's Hospital at 10 on the 14th 00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:43.080 and then at nine o'clock, he has a radiology appointment on the 21st and he also has a 00:39:43.080 --> 00:39:45.000 medical appointment on the 28th. 00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:46.000 Okay. 00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:49.400 Well, that makes it easy. 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.480 Mr. Chair, at the doctor's office. 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:53.480 Yeah. 00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:59.200 I hope everything goes well for him. 00:39:59.200 --> 00:40:05.000 Well, this is some of our annual visits being done now. 00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:06.000 Okay. 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:10.960 The next consistent one that we would have would be... 00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:22.840 We have two Thursdays, Thursday the 13th and Thursday the 20th, and so we meet from noon 00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:27.080 to 1.30 on the 13th. 00:40:27.080 --> 00:40:36.200 We could follow suit and meet from 11 to the following Thursdays. 00:40:36.200 --> 00:40:42.320 I'm available for either of those two Thursdays if that works. 00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:44.600 I'm available as well. 00:40:44.600 --> 00:40:48.280 How about everybody else? 00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:51.280 Mr. Mullen? 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:52.280 I'm not sure. 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:55.680 Put me down as being available and if something happens, I'll let you know. 00:40:55.680 --> 00:40:56.680 Okay. 00:40:56.680 --> 00:40:57.680 I may have work conflicts. 00:40:57.680 --> 00:40:59.760 We'll have to wait and see. 00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:00.760 Okay. 00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:01.760 Sebastian? 00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:05.880 I can attend. 00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.680 Okay. 00:41:08.680 --> 00:41:10.680 So we're talking about Friday at what time? 00:41:10.680 --> 00:41:11.680 Friday the 14th? 00:41:11.680 --> 00:41:12.680 Friday... 00:41:12.680 --> 00:41:13.680 No, no, no. 00:41:13.680 --> 00:41:15.360 We were on Thursday. 00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:25.480 We went to Thursday the 13th from noon to 1.30 and we'll send this out. 00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:32.360 And Thursday the 20th from 11 to 1. 00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:34.640 Okay. 00:41:34.640 --> 00:41:38.760 All right. 00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:40.560 Mike? 00:41:40.560 --> 00:41:42.960 All right. 00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:49.880 For me, I have a few meetings that do conflict in the mornings. 00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:52.400 Mostly I'm pretty flexible though. 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:58.760 I do have a meeting on the 20th that lasts like 30, 40 minutes at 10. 00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:06.240 And then I've got one on the 14th that lasts a couple hours from 10 to 1. 00:42:06.240 --> 00:42:10.440 So I might be able to make that. 00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:15.000 The 13th and the 20th. 00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.000 13th. 00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:19.520 The 13th from noon to 1.30. 00:42:19.520 --> 00:42:25.200 I could do the 13th and the 20th, I just, I forgot something at 10 in the morning. 00:42:25.200 --> 00:42:30.600 So we do the 20th from 11 to 1. 00:42:30.600 --> 00:42:35.920 I could probably do that for sure. 00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:37.960 Okay. 00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:40.000 Great. 00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:50.000 Who else are we missing here? 00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:54.040 Okay. 00:42:54.040 --> 00:43:01.840 Well if, Selena, if you want to send that out and I guess we'll call that a confirmation 00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:03.840 that way we can book the space. 00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:04.840 Yes. 00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:08.560 I'll go ahead and book that. 00:43:08.560 --> 00:43:13.180 Stephanie, hopefully you're available. 00:43:13.180 --> 00:43:14.180 I am. 00:43:14.180 --> 00:43:19.640 Oh, I have the start of a docket, but I have a lady that can start it on the 13th. 00:43:19.640 --> 00:43:21.480 So I'm fine. 00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:22.480 I'll be there. 00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:27.600 Hey, and I'll see what I can't do if we can get it in person. 00:43:27.600 --> 00:43:30.960 I'll have Emily run by QT and get us some hot dogs. 00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:36.440 I knew I'd get that from her. 00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:37.440 No. 00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.840 I'm sorry Mr. Chair, that's all I needed to do. 00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:42.120 I knew it was coming. 00:43:42.120 --> 00:43:43.120 I was just waiting. 00:43:43.120 --> 00:43:46.320 I didn't know if it was going to have to be me or someone else to say it. 00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:48.080 I may have some complex of interest. 00:43:48.080 --> 00:43:52.800 I may have some issues if it is in person though, I would have to point out. 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:53.800 Okay. 00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:54.800 Nope, that's good. 00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:57.560 Could we do both, Scott? 00:43:57.560 --> 00:43:59.000 I don't know that. 00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:00.000 I don't know that. 00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:08.440 I need to see if the work session room will continue to be Zoom, similar to a P&Z meeting 00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:14.400 or a council meeting where it is we have some in person and some online. 00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:22.120 Not that it's important per se, but if it's by Zoom, I'm backed up to a court docket that 00:44:22.120 --> 00:44:23.200 is by Zoom. 00:44:23.200 --> 00:44:33.200 So if it's by Zoom, it's easier because I don't have travel time. 00:44:33.200 --> 00:44:35.760 Yeah Stephanie, it'll be by Zoom either way. 00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:36.760 Okay. 00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:40.680 I'll just see if I can't person for those that choose to come in. 00:44:40.680 --> 00:44:41.680 Oh, gotcha. 00:44:41.680 --> 00:44:42.680 Okay. 00:44:42.680 --> 00:44:43.680 Yep. 00:44:43.680 --> 00:44:48.240 I actually did a bench trial at the county with some of the people by Zoom and some of 00:44:48.240 --> 00:44:49.240 the people live. 00:44:49.240 --> 00:44:53.520 It's a little bit difficult. 00:44:53.520 --> 00:44:54.520 Yeah we've got it down to a science. 00:44:54.520 --> 00:44:57.720 I don't know that you've watched any of the council meetings or P&Z. 00:44:57.720 --> 00:44:58.720 It looks pretty good. 00:44:58.720 --> 00:44:59.960 I bet y'all do. 00:44:59.960 --> 00:45:02.560 I'm sure y'all do. 00:45:02.560 --> 00:45:10.120 Emily, do you happen to have a copy of the meeting agenda? 00:45:10.120 --> 00:45:11.120 Not in front of me. 00:45:11.120 --> 00:45:13.560 Does anybody else have a copy of the meeting? 00:45:13.560 --> 00:45:14.560 I do. 00:45:14.560 --> 00:45:15.560 I do. 00:45:15.560 --> 00:45:20.320 I'd say cut off the last quarter of my agenda. 00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:26.960 I believe item number three is the concluding items and I've just got the first sentence. 00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:33.560 I don't know if somebody wants to read that off or if you even need to. 00:45:33.560 --> 00:45:35.680 You don't have to read them. 00:45:35.680 --> 00:45:37.280 You did that to Sebastian last time. 00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:39.840 I'm not going to let you do it to him again. 00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:40.840 Nope. 00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:44.760 I got a new paper in my printer. 00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:51.520 It's just an opportunity for you Mr. Chair if any of the commissioners have anything 00:45:51.520 --> 00:45:56.080 that they'd like to add, upcoming or anything that we need to do to the future. 00:45:56.080 --> 00:46:00.520 Just a good opportunity to say what they want to say. 00:46:00.520 --> 00:46:02.760 Backing anything on that? 00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:05.600 I guess we're not. 00:46:05.600 --> 00:46:11.960 So the next meeting agenda, we're going to be having that sent out by Emily, I guess, 00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:14.920 for somebody regarding the next time. 00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:16.960 Hopefully that gets done. 00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:25.800 We'll also be receiving which codes are going to be reviewed first and an agenda for that. 00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:34.800 And then we'll be scheduling our next meeting hopefully next week on Thursday the 13th at 00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:35.800 noon. 00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:38.040 Is that correct? 00:46:38.040 --> 00:46:40.040 Yes sir. 00:46:40.040 --> 00:46:42.040 Thank you. 00:46:42.040 --> 00:46:49.200 Anybody have any other comments? 00:46:49.200 --> 00:46:51.960 Anybody have any other statements, comments regarding this agenda? 00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:55.680 If not, I need a motion to conclude the meeting. 00:46:55.680 --> 00:46:59.680 A motion that we conclude the meeting. 00:46:59.680 --> 00:47:00.680 I second. 00:47:00.680 --> 00:47:07.440 First and second, Mike, second to that and so the meeting is adjourned. 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:10.440 Thank you all very much. 00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:11.440 Thank you. 00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:12.440 Thank you. 00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:13.920 Thank you.