1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,160 I don't know why we can not. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:19,320 Well, it's on, it's on the agenda, we can do it. 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:25,440 So I guess we have the US pledge of allegiance, so I can't see my camera, but I have a flag 4 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,440 behind me. 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:31,560 You do have a flag, thank you so much Stephanie. 6 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:39,200 Okay, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, to the Republic, 7 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:48,160 which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 8 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:49,160 Wow. 9 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:54,080 Well, the poor computer's working real hard to bring on whoever's talking, that's great. 10 00:00:54,080 --> 00:01:00,940 Honor the Texas flag, honor the Texas flag, I pledge allegiance to the Texas, one state 11 00:01:00,940 --> 00:01:04,800 under God, one and indivisible. 12 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:11,800 First order of business is we need to approve, consider to approve the meeting minutes from 13 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:19,000 April 22nd, 2021, Selena, was there an issue regarding some posting of those meeting minutes 14 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,600 with in regards to attendance? 15 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,400 I don't believe so. 16 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,000 Did you not email me a question regarding attendance or something, or am I just thinking 17 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,560 you did? 18 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:33,560 I don't believe so. 19 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:40,560 Can I chime in, there was, in part of the early part of the minute, and I don't have 20 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:47,160 them in front of me, forgive me, it did say I was absent, but I wasn't absent, I was there. 21 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,160 Yes ma'am. 22 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:55,920 As not voting in that first vote for chair, because you were muted, so I couldn't get 23 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,600 your vote on that vote, so that's what I got from the first one. 24 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:08,200 But the minutes do that you were present in the beginning of the minute meeting, meeting 25 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,200 minutes? 26 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,080 Yes, that's correct. 27 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:18,120 But do we need to amend that, or do we just, you want to take care of that? 28 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,560 Selena, or am I missing something? 29 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:29,360 And Selena, I think if we can, if we can maybe modify the minutes to, that Tori Mitchell 30 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:38,560 was present, was present, however, unable to confirm the vote, her vote. 31 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:39,560 Amen. 32 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,880 Okay, sure, yeah, I can definitely do that. 33 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:42,880 Thank you. 34 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:48,360 I appreciate that Mr. Chair, and then your recommendation or somebody's recommendation. 35 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:56,200 We'll take those meeting minutes as modified and stated, does anybody wish to approve these 36 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:02,320 minutes and I need somebody to say something? 37 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,160 I'll approve these minutes. 38 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:11,960 We have, who said that, I'm sorry, I'm looking, Sebastian, there you are, okay. 39 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,360 So Sebastian made a motion to approve the meeting minutes as stated. 40 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:17,880 All those in favor? 41 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:18,880 Aye. 42 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:19,880 Aye. 43 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:20,880 Sorry, Mr. Coward. 44 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:21,880 Yes, what did I miss? 45 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,880 A second for that motion. 46 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,920 Oh, I forgot, we do need a second. 47 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:28,920 I apologize. 48 00:03:28,920 --> 00:03:29,920 I'll second that motion. 49 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:35,480 David, David and Tori both seconded the. 50 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,240 All those in favor say aye. 51 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,240 Aye. 52 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:40,240 Aye. 53 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:46,200 All those opposed, let the record state that it was approved. 54 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:51,560 Mr. Chair, just a note for Selena, just to recognize that David Mullen is present. 55 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,840 I am present. 56 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:55,840 I am here. 57 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:56,840 Thank you. 58 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,960 I think I was muted before when you had roll call. 59 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,120 Yeah, she just couldn't confirm it, so I just wanted to make sure. 60 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,120 Thank you. 61 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,480 You are physically present, good to see you, David. 62 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,480 Yeah. 63 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:12,480 Thanks for saying something. 64 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:18,280 The first order of business is to receive a report and hold a discussion and given by 65 00:04:18,280 --> 00:04:26,360 the staff on relating the processes for the update of the new construction codes and standards. 66 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:31,480 That would be the international code, the building, the fire, existing building, residential 67 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:37,560 mechanical plumbing, fuel, gas, swimming pools, energy code, and national electric code. 68 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,040 Who is speaking to that? 69 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,760 I'm going to briefly begin and I'm going to let Emily chime in. 70 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,360 Emily's been doing all of the heavy lifting, so I have the voice for the, I have the face 71 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,600 for radio. 72 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:59,840 So here I am, but you've received a number of really just preliminary drafts. 73 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:02,460 Those are not ordinances that we're proposing. 74 00:05:02,460 --> 00:05:08,320 Those are truly just what that's going to look like, what a final product is going to 75 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,880 look like. 76 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:15,120 Emily is finalizing a, really it's going to be a worksheet. 77 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:22,640 It's a little easier to understand that will provide you with the section that we are proposing 78 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,280 to amend. 79 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:31,520 It will work through the typical, we'll quote the entire section. 80 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,180 We will do strike through if we're omitting any language. 81 00:05:35,180 --> 00:05:39,800 We will do underline for any language that's going to be added. 82 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,960 So you'll get the section of the code. 83 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:47,360 You'll get the language that's being proposed to be changed, and then it'll give you an 84 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:48,800 intent statement. 85 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:55,560 So the intent of the change, why we're proposing the change, what that need is, and what we'll 86 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:03,040 do is we'll walk through each of those items, but it was easiest at least to get the committee. 87 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,980 We're not putting that out for public record. 88 00:06:04,980 --> 00:06:06,800 We ask that you don't share those. 89 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,360 That is not, and I repeat, that is not a draft ordinance. 90 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:16,800 Those are just an example for you to understand what the final product will look like. 91 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:24,320 The working documents will be coming out before our next meeting, and then we'll go through 92 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:30,800 systematically each of the codes in each of those sections. 93 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:36,240 All the while, we'll make sure that we invite subject matter experts to speak on behalf 94 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:42,560 of, and maybe for demonstration purposes for our next meeting. 95 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,560 Mr. Chair, if you wouldn't mind, I'd like to just go ahead, and we'd start off with 96 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:55,480 the mechanical, and we can use the mechanical as an example at our next meeting on how we're 97 00:06:55,480 --> 00:07:03,840 going to walk through the code changes and utilize you or your staff just to make any 98 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:06,800 comments or to kind of roll through that. 99 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:13,040 How long do you believe you're going to have until those suggested changes will be sent 100 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,040 out? 101 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,160 They'll probably be out by Monday, I would assume. 102 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,160 Emily, you want to comment on that? 103 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:25,180 Yeah, I'll have those out by Monday at the latest. 104 00:07:25,180 --> 00:07:30,560 She can start sending them out one by one as she gets them, but keep in mind, and just 105 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,880 start with the mechanical, Emily. 106 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:42,040 The mechanical has probably half a dozen sections, I think, we're changing, and then I'm going 107 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:49,240 to repeat myself, and sometimes I'm redundant, so just bear with me. 108 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:56,040 We went through this process not so long ago for the 2018 codes. 109 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:02,440 We have vetted this pretty strongly, and Mr. Chair, if you recall, we walked through this 110 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:07,740 pretty diligently, we even got neighboring communities involved. 111 00:08:07,740 --> 00:08:14,840 Really we're taking the work that was done by the previous Habsco board, David will remember 112 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:20,960 as well, Sebastian, so a lot of this is not going to be new material to you. 113 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:26,880 There are very few changes that we're bringing forward that are going to differentiate from 114 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:27,880 where we were. 115 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:35,560 I will tell you the good news is the office of the fire marshal has worked very diligently 116 00:08:35,560 --> 00:08:43,880 and has reduced quite a number of their proposed changes, and I'm an advocate of that we have 117 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,820 a nationally vetted standard. 118 00:08:45,820 --> 00:08:50,120 We have a standard that is truly the national code. 119 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:58,680 It is adopted by the state of Texas as a Texas state code, and the fewer changes or amendments 120 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:05,200 we have is a much better tool for everyone involved. 121 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:10,480 I do appreciate the office of the fire marshal in reducing the number of amendments that 122 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:11,800 are there. 123 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:18,680 As we've reviewed these, we've also made some reductions in number of amendments, but we'll 124 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:25,560 walk through all of those very carefully and we'll also provide a high level, just a discussion 125 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:26,640 of the code. 126 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:32,140 For example, the international mechanical code regulates air conditioning systems. 127 00:09:32,140 --> 00:09:37,740 People think of air conditioning systems as being cold, but it's heat and coal and a variety 128 00:09:37,740 --> 00:09:47,800 other sources that would use some sort of energy to convert energy into conditioned space. 129 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,640 We'll walk through what that code is. 130 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:56,280 We'll walk through, when we begin this process, we'll literally walk through a code book as 131 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,720 an example to give you the layout of the code. 132 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,680 Most likely we will go into the residential code because it's going to be easiest for 133 00:10:05,680 --> 00:10:12,640 all of the users and all of those that are participating online to get a better understanding 134 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,880 of how the code is set up. 135 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,920 All of the codes are very similar. 136 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,000 They start with the text. 137 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,560 It shows the text as it's written today. 138 00:10:23,560 --> 00:10:30,360 It provides some notes in the margins to show where text has been added, where text has 139 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,600 been removed. 140 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:37,080 A user could look at a previous edition of the code to see what language wasn't there 141 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,480 or what language was there that is no longer there. 142 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,900 We'll explain that chapter one deals with administration. 143 00:10:45,900 --> 00:10:48,260 Chapter two is definitions. 144 00:10:48,260 --> 00:10:53,720 Chapter three gets into the meat and potatoes of how the code works. 145 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:59,480 The subsequent chapters get into the details on specific sections or systems within, whether 146 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:05,280 it's the building code or the mechanical code or the fuel gas code. 147 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:10,800 They're very similar in nature, very technical. 148 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,960 We're going to just do our best to make sure that we simplify the process for everyone 149 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:21,120 that's going to be viewing this online. 150 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:26,000 Don't expect that we'll be too greatly challenged by any of these. 151 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:31,280 Again, we'll start off with the mechanical just because I think that'll be a good simple 152 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:32,280 one. 153 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,840 I will tell you, we could start off with the electrical. 154 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:42,320 I don't know if some of you that were on before, and I can't tell you how many pages of amendments 155 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:49,800 we currently have on electrical, but I will tell you that we have zero, and I say again 156 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:55,000 zero, recommended changes to the 2020 National Electric Code. 157 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,400 We're going to adopt the National Electric Code as written. 158 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:04,360 I think all of those items make your cooler, and I think it serves the citizens of Dent 159 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,960 in a much better way. 160 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,840 Emily? 161 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:09,840 Thank you, Scott. 162 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:16,120 When you do send those out, will you make sure you send a note at the top is, like Scott 163 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,080 said, which ones are being modified, how they're being modified, the striped throughs. 164 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:27,080 It's going to make it a lot quicker to understand once I think we get used to it. 165 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,080 Sure. 166 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,080 Emily, I think- 167 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,840 I don't think we have the ability to share screens, correct? 168 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,640 It looks like we do at the bottom of the- 169 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,800 Do you want to try and share one of those sheets, Emily? 170 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,120 I sure will. 171 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:45,800 Emily, I know that before we did stuff, some of that stuff was in red. 172 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,920 Are we going to do the colors again, too? 173 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,520 I don't have them in colors. 174 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,680 No, no, no. 175 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:59,120 We can add the colors as we talk about if the committee is proposing to make changes. 176 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,120 Okay. 177 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,280 We absolutely could do that, David. 178 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,680 What we're going to start with is just a clean document of this is the standpoint that we're 179 00:13:06,680 --> 00:13:08,840 working from. 180 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:16,280 Again, we had all of those codes completed and ready to submit to city council, so we 181 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,680 had made it that far. 182 00:13:18,680 --> 00:13:22,920 We're just going to reset the bar at zero and say we're going on the premise of the 183 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,720 recommendation of where we were before, and then now just highlight what those changes 184 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,920 are as the committee sees fit. 185 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,760 I have a quick question for Emily. 186 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:46,560 What is with the ICC website thing? 187 00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:49,320 That's going to be her next item. 188 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:50,320 Right. 189 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,480 Yeah, we're going to go over that. 190 00:13:53,480 --> 00:14:00,640 We've got a lot on that, a lot of learning curve, I guess you could say. 191 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:07,600 We just got that in, I want to say end of last week, and we're working on getting that 192 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,760 where it's real easy for you to get in and understand it. 193 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:20,680 I put a bunch of notes in, and they're gone, so I've got to learn a little bit better. 194 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,400 I'm going to get in there probably tomorrow and just really dig in. 195 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:33,480 And Sebastian, what we can do in the interim, so these codes have all recently been published 196 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,120 to this premium. 197 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:46,560 Premium is new for us, thought it would be much more convenient for the commission, however, 198 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:52,840 there's a learning curve for us as well as for you, but we can send you, which is out 199 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,600 on our website as well, and I think Emily had already sent it. 200 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:10,080 If anyone wants to go to ICC safe.org, ICC safe.org, or you can do a Google search of 201 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:16,240 international codes online, you can get to each of these codes and you can click through 202 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:22,800 them very simply, chapter one, chapter two, chapter three, all of the sections that will 203 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:29,320 be referenced on the sheets that Emily is going to show you will correspond. 204 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:35,640 So if you're looking at the plumbing code, and it says section 705, you go to chapter 205 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:41,120 seven, and then you can just drill down to 705, and then you can see the text is written 206 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,120 in the code. 207 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:49,080 It'll be a little easier, what you have in the premium edition allows you to copy and 208 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:55,840 paste and markup and do screenshots, and so truly it's a much more functional tool that's 209 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:00,320 designed for people that are in the business of doing. 210 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:06,220 So there are two vehicles for you to use, and certainly just going to the public site 211 00:16:06,220 --> 00:16:12,080 and using that tool may be simplest in the interim, but we're going to provide you with 212 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,480 what we're going to be doing in the upcoming meeting, so you don't have to go through all 213 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,480 of those ordinances and all of those codes right now. 214 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,440 We'll focus on the mechanical code next week and probably begin into the residential code, 215 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:30,240 because I think that'll give the best understanding for the commission as well as anyone that's 216 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,360 watching online or wanting to participate. 217 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:44,240 Yeah, it's a little tricky. 218 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:48,960 There's a little spot that looks like a little icon at the very top, and it doesn't look 219 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,920 like anything really, except like a little picture. 220 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:57,500 We'll build some screenshots, Sebastian, we'll give you some screenshots and simplify it. 221 00:16:57,500 --> 00:17:03,680 I was doing it today, so absolutely understand where you're at. 222 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:08,400 So what Emily's pulled up for you is really the format in which we're going to be working 223 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,880 through each of these codes. 224 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:15,160 This is what we're going to distribute to the public and publish online, so people are 225 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,920 able to see. 226 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:21,520 It starts off at the top, and it tells that these are the recommended amendments to the 227 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:26,240 2021, and this is the example of the International Mechanical Code. 228 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:33,840 And so as you see, it gives you an explanation of the underlined type. 229 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,480 Underlined type is text which has been inserted. 230 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:43,800 Strike through means that we've deleted it, and then anything else, the double asterisk, 231 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,800 et cetera, will kind of correspond with the code. 232 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,340 So as you look, you'll see it'll be going in order. 233 00:17:51,340 --> 00:17:59,360 So section 101 is the title, and we will look out where the published code says name of 234 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:00,360 jurisdiction. 235 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:06,240 We'll do a strike through, and then we'll underline and insert the city of Denver. 236 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:11,260 And then so you'll see in every one of those, which will correspond to the draft ordinances 237 00:18:11,260 --> 00:18:14,960 that you've already received. 238 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:21,360 And below that, it says reason, but that gives you the rationale as to why are we doing this 239 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:22,360 change. 240 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:29,280 And as this one states, it's a standard insertion point to assist with local adoption, and we're 241 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,700 not changing anything. 242 00:18:31,700 --> 00:18:37,720 Same thing if you go down to the next. 243 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:43,760 When he says no changing, that means it hasn't changed from the last adopted code. 244 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,880 It's very similar to what we, right? 245 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:54,280 It is a change, a small change from the code, but not a change from what we previously adopted. 246 00:18:54,280 --> 00:19:02,200 Yeah, no change for us. 247 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:07,840 So another good example, and it'd be the same on every one of the forms. 248 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:17,080 All of these top in section one, the vast majority of these will correspond and correlate 249 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,320 to each of the codes. 250 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,920 So there's this section that is printed in the code that says work commencing before 251 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,440 permit issuance. 252 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,480 And the text in the code says 100% of the usual permit fee. 253 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,320 Well, we're not allowed to do that by law. 254 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,560 We can't just charge 100%. 255 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:43,280 Texas law provides that truly it's got to be relative to the cost of doing business. 256 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,280 So we adopt our fees by separate ordinance. 257 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:51,540 This refers the user to Chapter 28 in the municipal code of ordinances where our fee 258 00:19:51,540 --> 00:19:53,240 adoption is. 259 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,800 So just kind of get you there. 260 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,300 Same with the next section. 261 00:19:59,300 --> 00:20:01,400 They have some fees that are in there. 262 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,620 So we're going to delete the entirety of that section. 263 00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:08,080 So we didn't bother to put it in there and do strikeout. 264 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:21,720 The whole section is gone because we have that piece already in our code. 265 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,680 Stop work order is much the same. 266 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:30,160 So where it is and how we do it in accordance with our local code, again, you'll see the 267 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:36,240 reason it's a standard insertion point, but it assists with our local adoption. 268 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,040 Here's a good one that would be one that's very appropriate for this board. 269 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,720 So means of appeal. 270 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,160 So we have struck the entire section. 271 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,840 That's why all of this is underlined. 272 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:55,360 And then we have the language that we will use in all of our codes, which will be consistent 273 00:20:55,360 --> 00:21:00,920 in order to hear and decide appeals of orders, decisions, or determinations made by the building 274 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:09,160 official because the different codes have different terms to the application or interpretation 275 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:17,080 of the requirements of this code or any other and there shall be in building standards commission. 276 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,320 Thank you very much for your service, by the way. 277 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:26,880 And then see article X, that doesn't necessarily exist, we're just when we're going to adopt 278 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:31,480 these codes, we're really going to have some of our sections of the municipal code. 279 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,920 So when we work with our legal department, we'll make sure all of those correlate. 280 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:46,520 But ultimately, it'll say see chapter, whatever it is of the municipal code. 281 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:55,920 Okay, so many of you should remember this one, 306 changes to, you know, appliances 282 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,360 and addicts. 283 00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:01,860 I think we spent quite a little bit of time on this, if I recall. 284 00:22:01,860 --> 00:22:10,680 So at a minimum where it is, we left, if you read this section 306.3, appliances and addicts, 285 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,560 it says add following sentence to the end of the paragraph. 286 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:20,400 So that means that the text will all remain in place, I'm going to add another sentence. 287 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:27,400 As a minimum for access to the addict space, provide one of the following, a permanent 288 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:33,800 stair, a pull down stair with a minimum 300 pound capacity, an access door from an upper 289 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,120 floor level. 290 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:37,400 And again, we say why? 291 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:42,280 To provide safety and ease of access for homeowner and service personnel, and it's really no 292 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,680 change from what we've been doing to the past. 293 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,840 So I won't, well, I was going to say, I won't go any further, but that's actually the end 294 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,640 of the mechanical section. 295 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,200 So you see the word end means we're done. 296 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,700 So those are the only changes we're proposing to the mechanical code. 297 00:22:59,700 --> 00:23:04,280 And I was really just going to ask if this makes sense to everybody, if I need to clarify 298 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,280 anything. 299 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:12,980 I didn't know no longer than some of these are we may be able to do multiples on certain 300 00:23:12,980 --> 00:23:13,980 days. 301 00:23:13,980 --> 00:23:14,980 Absolutely. 302 00:23:14,980 --> 00:23:15,980 Absolutely. 303 00:23:15,980 --> 00:23:19,440 The electrical may be not, well, I guess we can. 304 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,760 You said it hardly has any changes. 305 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,760 Zero. 306 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,760 Zero. 307 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:24,760 Zero. 308 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,060 More conversation in the swimming pool and other codes. 309 00:23:28,060 --> 00:23:31,760 What you sent the other day is what we're looking at right now on our screen. 310 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:32,760 Is that correct? 311 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:39,720 No, it was similar and similar, but those are really what the final product, final product 312 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:45,720 of what the commission will be rec, the city council will be by virtue of those ordinances. 313 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,040 But those are, those are not even really draft. 314 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,620 That's just an example for you to see what each of those are going to look like. 315 00:23:53,620 --> 00:23:59,640 And as we walk through it, um, these sheets will be the ones that you'll get this week. 316 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,720 And then it'll really give you kind of the roadmap on the direction that we will go going 317 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:05,720 forward. 318 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:12,640 Um, staff will just recommend that we'll, we'll start with the, I say, and then, uh, 319 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,720 maybe, or, or we can start off, I guess, Mr. Chair, with whatever you like, if you'd like 320 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:22,160 to start with a residential code and kind of give the foundation for all of it. 321 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:29,360 We can talk through those points or we can walk through each of the trade codes and maybe 322 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:38,040 it's a little simpler than when the residential code, let me back up, um, the, the, the foundation 323 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:45,160 for the codes that we adopt in the city of Denton is the international building code. 324 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,000 The international building code is really that parent document. 325 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,320 And from that is, is a number of siblings. 326 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:57,880 So first go to the building code and then the building code says building a building, 327 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:04,360 you must follow this code except if you're building a one and two family dwelling, you 328 00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:07,800 use the international residential code. 329 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:13,680 So there's your first carve out and it says, okay, so now I have to go to a different book. 330 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:19,480 Um, then it will say, if you're going to look at mechanical systems, you use the mechanical 331 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,480 code. 332 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,520 If you're going to look at plumbing, you look at the plumbing code, energy, you look at 333 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:29,280 the international energy conservation code, et cetera. 334 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:34,880 So the parent book being the building code and then each of the other codes kind of are 335 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,660 the, are the children of that parent document. 336 00:25:38,660 --> 00:25:42,480 So we can take, we have two, a couple of different approaches we can take. 337 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,840 We can, we can start with the residential code because I think everyone can reset, you 338 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:53,720 know, resonate to a single family dwelling and understand kind of the concepts. 339 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,200 The residential code is different than the rest of the code books that it kind of builds 340 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,320 the book like you build a house. 341 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,920 It starts with the administration, meaning that yet you have to get a permit. 342 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:13,300 You have to get inspection and then it goes into definitions and then the next chapter 343 00:26:13,300 --> 00:26:17,880 gets into all of the requirements to be able to build it, meaning the wind load, the snow 344 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:28,560 load, earthquake, et cetera, et cetera, tells smoke alarms and all of those building items. 345 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,760 Chapter four will then get into foundations. 346 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,220 What's the next thing after you do, after you put a foundation in, you build walls. 347 00:26:36,220 --> 00:26:38,820 So then it goes into walls. 348 00:26:38,820 --> 00:26:44,000 After walls, it goes to roofs, after roofs, it goes to roof covering, then it starts getting 349 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,340 into the mechanical systems. 350 00:26:46,340 --> 00:26:52,700 So the, the, the residential code contains every code, all of the provisions for all 351 00:26:52,700 --> 00:27:00,160 of the codes in one book, because you're all single family homes, basically the same, different 352 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,440 than that of when we started talking about commercial construction, because it could 353 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:09,560 be high rise or it could be, you know, any number of different types of things. 354 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:15,440 So we can, we can address this and I guess Mr. Chair, you can ask the committee, you 355 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,800 can make a decision, you can give staff direction. 356 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,440 If you'd like to walk through each of the trade codes, or if you'd like to start with 357 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:28,120 maybe the residential code and kind of get this overall feeling of how all that works 358 00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:33,000 together and then we can start getting into details on each of the, each of the separate 359 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,000 codes. 360 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,440 Emily, I see you shaking your head. 361 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,880 I think I would refer to staff and which one they believe they would have ready first. 362 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,340 We probably want to start with the building code. 363 00:27:45,340 --> 00:27:47,920 I thought that was an exceptional idea. 364 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,680 I'm sure everybody on this whole team would agree that's where they wanted to start as 365 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,680 well. 366 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,680 Okay. 367 00:27:54,680 --> 00:28:03,720 So you're going to work on the building codes first, Emily, is that what I understand and 368 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,200 you will be picking the one that you have or the, if we're going to do the mechanical 369 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,480 in particular, we know we could, we've almost gone through that already. 370 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,520 So you may want to have three or four of them ready to go. 371 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,120 And hopefully we can get to that many. 372 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:26,160 This being an open meeting, Scott, we, whatever is on the agenda is what we have to deal with. 373 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,880 So we need to be cautious that we don't put too much on the agenda or not enough. 374 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,380 Is that true? 375 00:28:32,380 --> 00:28:40,040 So we'll probably retain the same, the same sort of, and Stephanie can chime in if she 376 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,920 sees any arm. 377 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:48,320 But if you read that capture as receiver report, hold the discussion and give staff direction 378 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,580 relating to all of those codes. 379 00:28:52,580 --> 00:29:02,780 So we'll, we'll produce an agenda and certainly make it available for or send it to the commission. 380 00:29:02,780 --> 00:29:06,720 So all of the commissioners know really where they need to do their homework. 381 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:14,560 I don't expect the commissioners to read literally thousands of pages of text before next week, 382 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,240 because we won't make it through all of those codes. 383 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:25,120 But what we will do is provide you with the order in which we are suggesting to go and 384 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,920 for what you should be prepared for. 385 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:36,040 And then we'll probably add something, we'll probably put something on the agenda to say 386 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:42,120 that we will specifically start with and talk about this code. 387 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:48,640 So then that way, we can get interest from the from the general public, as well as trades 388 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,280 people to be able to participate. 389 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,520 So we'll do both. 390 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,520 Okay. 391 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,560 And it looks like Stephanie shaking her head. 392 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,000 So I guess she agreed legally. 393 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,000 That's okay. 394 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:10,720 That was my only concern, because we do need to get as much as we possibly can. 395 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,000 Does that conclude item B? 396 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,000 I'm sorry to interrupt. 397 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:21,840 I just wanted to state for the record that Mr. Michael sider is now president. 398 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:22,840 Thank you. 399 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,840 Welcome. 400 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,280 Nice to see you, Michael. 401 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,360 Thanks for joining us. 402 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,160 And on the posting issue, we need to stay on posting. 403 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,600 But because these are intertwined codes, we could like venture off to a little issue with 404 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,600 another one. 405 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,080 So there might be a way to write it like we're going to talk about the electrical code today 406 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:50,160 and any tangential issues with other codes or something that may relate so that we're 407 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,400 notifying the public, hey, this is our focus. 408 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,320 You know, they may they're going to intertwine, correct? 409 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,160 Yes, Stephanie. 410 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:05,220 So I don't know that you've seen the agenda. 411 00:31:05,220 --> 00:31:11,640 But if you take a peek at the agenda at some point later, it's a receiver report, it lists 412 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,000 out all of the codes. 413 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:24,520 And then, and maybe if we add a second sentence to that, with a phone on code A, code B, and 414 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:30,920 code C as time permits, and any other discussions relevant to those codes. 415 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:31,920 Right. 416 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,960 Like for today, that's great, because we're talking about all of them. 417 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,060 But when we're focusing on one, so that that lets people know we're going to focus on these 418 00:31:38,060 --> 00:31:42,920 one, two or three, but there's not really probably a way to only talk about those since 419 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,040 they intertwine. 420 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,520 So like, I think your idea is perfect. 421 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,200 Okay, awesome. 422 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,200 Thank you. 423 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,200 Thanks for the clarification. 424 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:58,120 It may have been silly question to ask, but we are looking for input. 425 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,880 That concludes item B of the current agenda. 426 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:08,440 Emily, did you have more to kind of walk through? 427 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:14,080 You're muted, Emily. 428 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,080 Sorry. 429 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:23,800 Yeah, we definitely can walk through like the building code amendments if we want to. 430 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:24,800 Not necessarily today. 431 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:30,640 I think we want to get them that the kind of the narrative sheets first. 432 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:39,680 So we'll send those out and so you may receive a several different emails with those documents. 433 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,280 So you just have them in as soon as you can get them, rather than getting all three of 434 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,960 them at once or whatever the case may be. 435 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,560 Is there anything else on the code piece or the online piece that you want to talk through, 436 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,800 Emily? 437 00:32:53,800 --> 00:33:00,680 I just wanted to make sure everybody got the email to the link to sign up at ICC. 438 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,760 I think that's the first step. 439 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,360 And then I'm going to get a little bit more detailed step on how to actually access the 440 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,360 codes. 441 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,840 So, so the actual registration is pretty simple. 442 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:18,760 Just basic information, I think, name and address, I don't know, email address, something 443 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,600 like that, and a password. 444 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:27,360 Yeah, they send you an access code once you put in the basic information, Emily. 445 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,360 Okay. 446 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,360 Great. 447 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,360 Okay. 448 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:42,000 Anybody have any additional questions regarding item B of the receive report we've been discussing? 449 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:49,360 You know, I guess one other piece, and then, Emily, you are, I don't know if you have more 450 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,640 tools than me to show your screen. 451 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,360 You kind of cut out on all that, Scott. 452 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,360 Sorry. 453 00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,840 Can you start over? 454 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:07,320 Well, so we're creating a page to allow people to provide written input. 455 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,040 Is that out there? 456 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,040 It's not. 457 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:15,160 We're wanting to put these amendments or proposed amendments up with that. 458 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,160 So we'll get that cleaned up real quick. 459 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:26,600 We'll share that link with the committee, encourage you to talk to others. 460 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,600 We certainly want community participation. 461 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:35,960 We want to make sure we get this in front of people in ways that we can, so invite your 462 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:43,760 friends, they'll still be your friends, have to sit through a meeting with us, but we really 463 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,960 want to make sure that the community is engaged in the part of it. 464 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,880 When we get a little further down the road and it's more refined, we'll have a presentation 465 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:58,680 to kind of outline each of these codes, and we'll probably hold a couple of town halls 466 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,200 to make sure the community has an opportunity to weigh in. 467 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:13,720 Scott, when is the city council voting whether we'll be able to meet in person? 468 00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:16,280 Do we know that? 469 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,280 Don't know that. 470 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,000 I don't think it'll be anything before June 1. 471 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:28,520 I did broach the subject of whether we're able to meet in person, and I'm somewhat awaiting 472 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,520 that. 473 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:34,120 I think there's I guess a couple different things with that. 474 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,340 We can certainly reach more people this way. 475 00:35:37,340 --> 00:35:40,640 We have the opportunity to reach more people this way. 476 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:46,620 We certainly have the space to be able to meet in person and socially distance, and 477 00:35:46,620 --> 00:35:53,720 we'll have a parking lot to invite everybody to our new building here in the next two weeks, 478 00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:58,360 so that'll be ideal, and I really would like to see everybody. 479 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,520 It's just a question. 480 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:08,440 Okay, so that concludes item B on the items of consideration. 481 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:14,200 The next item, we may have already spoken about this, is to receive a report and hold 482 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:20,000 a discussion given by the staff regarding upcoming meeting schedule. 483 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:26,840 I'm guessing we're still meeting every Thursday 3 to 5 if that works for everybody, anticipating 484 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:33,320 that we do get these amended or doctored codes to us in timely fashion. 485 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:39,240 I think there may be an issue with that on the city's end. 486 00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:51,080 Selena had given me some dates, and it wasn't in line with what we're doing, so I don't 487 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:57,320 know if you want me to just send those out and see if people can attend those, because 488 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,600 they are different days and different times. 489 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:07,680 You're talking about we can't meet every Thursday is what you're saying, due to other links 490 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,200 and issues with the city access? 491 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,200 Right. 492 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,200 It's other departments having meetings at those same times. 493 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:20,540 I guess I ask all those members on the board, what would be best for you? 494 00:37:20,540 --> 00:37:26,440 Would it be best if she sends out a list of times and days and we attempt to fill in and 495 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,960 agree upon, or would it be best it now? 496 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:36,000 Yeah, I can give you those times right now as well, so just so... 497 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:41,180 Do you have that, Emily, that you can put it on the screen? 498 00:37:41,180 --> 00:37:43,600 I do. 499 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,880 I won't be able to see the screen, I'm outside my son's dentist office. 500 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:52,240 We can say them out loud, thank you, Tori. 501 00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:54,240 Thank you. 502 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:59,800 I only say that just so people can get an idea, be able to visualize, and maybe look 503 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:00,800 at the... 504 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,440 You need to blow it up. 505 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,440 Thanks Scott, I appreciate that. 506 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:07,440 You might do it. 507 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,440 There we go. 508 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,440 Keep going. 509 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,440 Tori. 510 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,440 Greg's on the call. 511 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,440 Tori, are you there? 512 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:17,120 There you go, thank you. 513 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,120 Yes, I am. 514 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,120 I'm here. 515 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,840 Tori, do you have a piece of paper to make some notes? 516 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,160 Yes, I do. 517 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:31,560 We can send the dates out, just wanted to kind of talk through it. 518 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:40,520 So if we just look at next week, Thursday, we don't have consistency on Thursday, however, 519 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:48,720 Friday, May the 14th, and Friday, May the 28th, were available from 8 a.m. till let's 520 00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:53,320 just call it noon on both of those days. 521 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,000 Those are the only two days that are really consistent. 522 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:07,160 If everybody wanted a consistent time, otherwise, we have kind of some odd times that we can... 523 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,760 Again, we can send this out and we just need people's response. 524 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:19,440 Just didn't know if, again, Friday morning on the 14th and Friday morning on the 12th 525 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,080 would work for everybody. 526 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,680 It won't work. 527 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,480 Go ahead, Tori. 528 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,200 Well, it won't work for me. 529 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:36,480 My son has his annual allergy appointment at the Children's Hospital at 10 on the 14th 530 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:43,080 and then at nine o'clock, he has a radiology appointment on the 21st and he also has a 531 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,000 medical appointment on the 28th. 532 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,000 Okay. 533 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,400 Well, that makes it easy. 534 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,480 Mr. Chair, at the doctor's office. 535 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,480 Yeah. 536 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:59,200 I hope everything goes well for him. 537 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:05,000 Well, this is some of our annual visits being done now. 538 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,000 Okay. 539 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,960 The next consistent one that we would have would be... 540 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:22,840 We have two Thursdays, Thursday the 13th and Thursday the 20th, and so we meet from noon 541 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,080 to 1.30 on the 13th. 542 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:36,200 We could follow suit and meet from 11 to the following Thursdays. 543 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:42,320 I'm available for either of those two Thursdays if that works. 544 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,600 I'm available as well. 545 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,280 How about everybody else? 546 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,280 Mr. Mullen? 547 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,280 I'm not sure. 548 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,680 Put me down as being available and if something happens, I'll let you know. 549 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:56,680 Okay. 550 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:57,680 I may have work conflicts. 551 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,760 We'll have to wait and see. 552 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:00,760 Okay. 553 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,760 Sebastian? 554 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,880 I can attend. 555 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,680 Okay. 556 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,680 So we're talking about Friday at what time? 557 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:11,680 Friday the 14th? 558 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,680 Friday... 559 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,680 No, no, no. 560 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,360 We were on Thursday. 561 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:25,480 We went to Thursday the 13th from noon to 1.30 and we'll send this out. 562 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:32,360 And Thursday the 20th from 11 to 1. 563 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,640 Okay. 564 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,760 All right. 565 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,560 Mike? 566 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,960 All right. 567 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:49,880 For me, I have a few meetings that do conflict in the mornings. 568 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,400 Mostly I'm pretty flexible though. 569 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:58,760 I do have a meeting on the 20th that lasts like 30, 40 minutes at 10. 570 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:06,240 And then I've got one on the 14th that lasts a couple hours from 10 to 1. 571 00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:10,440 So I might be able to make that. 572 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:15,000 The 13th and the 20th. 573 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,000 13th. 574 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,520 The 13th from noon to 1.30. 575 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:25,200 I could do the 13th and the 20th, I just, I forgot something at 10 in the morning. 576 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:30,600 So we do the 20th from 11 to 1. 577 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:35,920 I could probably do that for sure. 578 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,960 Okay. 579 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,000 Great. 580 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:50,000 Who else are we missing here? 581 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,040 Okay. 582 00:42:54,040 --> 00:43:01,840 Well if, Selena, if you want to send that out and I guess we'll call that a confirmation 583 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,840 that way we can book the space. 584 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:04,840 Yes. 585 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,560 I'll go ahead and book that. 586 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,180 Stephanie, hopefully you're available. 587 00:43:13,180 --> 00:43:14,180 I am. 588 00:43:14,180 --> 00:43:19,640 Oh, I have the start of a docket, but I have a lady that can start it on the 13th. 589 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,480 So I'm fine. 590 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,480 I'll be there. 591 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:27,600 Hey, and I'll see what I can't do if we can get it in person. 592 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,960 I'll have Emily run by QT and get us some hot dogs. 593 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:36,440 I knew I'd get that from her. 594 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,440 No. 595 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,840 I'm sorry Mr. Chair, that's all I needed to do. 596 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,120 I knew it was coming. 597 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,120 I was just waiting. 598 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,320 I didn't know if it was going to have to be me or someone else to say it. 599 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,080 I may have some complex of interest. 600 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,800 I may have some issues if it is in person though, I would have to point out. 601 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,800 Okay. 602 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:54,800 Nope, that's good. 603 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,560 Could we do both, Scott? 604 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,000 I don't know that. 605 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,000 I don't know that. 606 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:08,440 I need to see if the work session room will continue to be Zoom, similar to a P&Z meeting 607 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:14,400 or a council meeting where it is we have some in person and some online. 608 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:22,120 Not that it's important per se, but if it's by Zoom, I'm backed up to a court docket that 609 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,200 is by Zoom. 610 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:33,200 So if it's by Zoom, it's easier because I don't have travel time. 611 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,760 Yeah Stephanie, it'll be by Zoom either way. 612 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:36,760 Okay. 613 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,680 I'll just see if I can't person for those that choose to come in. 614 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,680 Oh, gotcha. 615 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:42,680 Okay. 616 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,680 Yep. 617 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:48,240 I actually did a bench trial at the county with some of the people by Zoom and some of 618 00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:49,240 the people live. 619 00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:53,520 It's a little bit difficult. 620 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:54,520 Yeah we've got it down to a science. 621 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,720 I don't know that you've watched any of the council meetings or P&Z. 622 00:44:57,720 --> 00:44:58,720 It looks pretty good. 623 00:44:58,720 --> 00:44:59,960 I bet y'all do. 624 00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:02,560 I'm sure y'all do. 625 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:10,120 Emily, do you happen to have a copy of the meeting agenda? 626 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,120 Not in front of me. 627 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,560 Does anybody else have a copy of the meeting? 628 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,560 I do. 629 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,560 I do. 630 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:20,320 I'd say cut off the last quarter of my agenda. 631 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:26,960 I believe item number three is the concluding items and I've just got the first sentence. 632 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:33,560 I don't know if somebody wants to read that off or if you even need to. 633 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,680 You don't have to read them. 634 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,280 You did that to Sebastian last time. 635 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,840 I'm not going to let you do it to him again. 636 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:40,840 Nope. 637 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,760 I got a new paper in my printer. 638 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:51,520 It's just an opportunity for you Mr. Chair if any of the commissioners have anything 639 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:56,080 that they'd like to add, upcoming or anything that we need to do to the future. 640 00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:00,520 Just a good opportunity to say what they want to say. 641 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,760 Backing anything on that? 642 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,600 I guess we're not. 643 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:11,960 So the next meeting agenda, we're going to be having that sent out by Emily, I guess, 644 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,920 for somebody regarding the next time. 645 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,960 Hopefully that gets done. 646 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:25,800 We'll also be receiving which codes are going to be reviewed first and an agenda for that. 647 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:34,800 And then we'll be scheduling our next meeting hopefully next week on Thursday the 13th at 648 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:35,800 noon. 649 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,040 Is that correct? 650 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,040 Yes sir. 651 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,040 Thank you. 652 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:49,200 Anybody have any other comments? 653 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,960 Anybody have any other statements, comments regarding this agenda? 654 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,680 If not, I need a motion to conclude the meeting. 655 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,680 A motion that we conclude the meeting. 656 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:00,680 I second. 657 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:07,440 First and second, Mike, second to that and so the meeting is adjourned. 658 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,440 Thank you all very much. 659 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,440 Thank you. 660 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,440 Thank you. 661 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:13,920 Thank you.