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 It is nine o'clock on Monday April 26th we have a quorum so we'll call to order the Public

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 Utilities Board of the City of Denton meeting to order the first item is public comments

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 we did receive one public comment via email from Sherry Darby and according to our rules

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 we don't actually read it but the Secretary will put it into the board minutes do we have

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 anyone else waiting on the phone to make a comment this is Tyler Smith no you do not

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 have any other public comments all right thank you and we'll go into the regular meeting

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 which the first item is consent agenda does anybody wish to pull any items from A through

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 G yes madam chairman I would like to remove item A from the consent agenda okay any other

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 B anyone else all right do we have a motion to approve item C through G so moved second

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 thank you all in favor say aye aye opposed item A so madam chairman members of the board

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 we have Chris Campbell here from the water department Chris one of our superintendents

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 he's going to walk through a short presentation and hopefully you know answer any questions

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 that you have if not he'll give you time for a question answer if that Chris hey good morning

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 everybody I'm gonna my name is Chris Campbell I'm the superintendent over capital projects

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 for utilities and just bear with me here I'll share my screen okay I'm gonna walk us through

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 a brief presentation over the Hickory Creek lift station change order number two request

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 project overview and scope original scope was to construct a new wastewater lift station

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 an effort to replace and decommission the existing Hickory Creek lift station we have

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 had one change order for this project which was a monorail extension extension I'm sorry

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 allowing more mobility when removing a pump from the lift station change order number

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 two which is what we're here for today is improve a proposed bypass system by enhancing

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 redundancy a few manhole upgrades as well as some what well improvements the valve adjustments

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 schedule so our original schedule for this project was 270 days change order number one

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 excuse me added 21 days to the contract and change order number two will add 154 days

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 to the contract the new lift station is set to be online actually operating at the end

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 of next month which is May here's a kind of a brief overview of our budget for the for

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 the project original contract value you can see there we added change order number one

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 and then change order number two is what we are bringing forth today with the project

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 total is these change orders combined are less than five percent of the original contract

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 value it's a recommendation consider recommending adoption of ordinance accepting the change

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 order of construction for the Hickory Creek lift station with Raymar construction in the

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 amount of 128 thousand 170 dollars and 68 cents and with that I'll open it up to questions

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 any questions mr. Ryback go ahead yes thank you um I was curious about the scope as I

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 looked at the exhibit for the information I noticed there were a number of changes valve

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 reconfiguration manhole cast in place it just occurred to me that it was a little bit odd

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 there were so many reconfigurations or modifications to the original design so I was wondering

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 Chris if you could just tell us a little bit about how we got to the place where we are

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 today where you're asking for the change order I'm not suggesting this is unreasonable I'm

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 just curious how so many of these adjustments were made and we're just getting the change

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 order now so if you could address that I'd be very grateful yes sir absolutely yeah and

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 you're you're 100% correct there are quite a few changes with this change order including

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 those valve adjustments manhole adjustments throughout conversation with the the wastewater

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 superintendent the design engineer team on this project it's been brought to our attention

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 that when this project was designed quite a few years ago we were not thinking holistically

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 for the for the lift station site all the manholes that are involved actually the the

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 actual material that we're using for the manholes the you know this one is it is actually a

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 one-off fiberglass manhole or I'm sorry lift station so yes sir that quite a few things

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 were put aside to try to save a few dollars that have been brought forth and we feel that

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 with where we are with this project in the Hickory Creek Basin we feel it'd be imperative

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 to to push forward and and provide the best product well I understand that I'm just curious

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 you made the comment you were pushing said you were trying to make some value adjustments

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 and yet the contract value has gone up so again just curious how we got to this place

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 I see there's some other questions so I'll let you answer let some other folks get a

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 word in edgewise thank you thank you okay Billy go ahead thank you madam chair that

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 being said you have a hundred and twenty eight thousand dollar change order on this portion

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 but you're adding a hundred and fifty four days that seems a little disproportionate

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 days versus dollar amount it should I mean for 154 days if you would think you'd be a

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 half a million dollars into it really easy yes sir I could speak to that briefly and

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 really I think where we're gonna have add more days is the bypass for this we've we've

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 asked them because of lessons learned on some other lift station projects to change their

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 means and methods with the bypass this is one of the largest stations in the wastewater

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 system and their initial bypass was very similar to another project on Teasley and we felt

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 that it was important to change their means and methods with the bypass shifting how they're

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 going to go about performing the bypass adding a few additional taps so that's a big portion

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 of it along with the manhole changes you know we change one of the manholes for example

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 we changed to a polymer manhole to better improve corrosion resistance of the manhole

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 which will improve of course the longevity of the manhole so is this more of a float

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 in the schedule than it is actual work being performed for the days extended I believe

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 so like we're waiting on redesign instead of actually out there doing work is that correct

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 we have added design days in there the design has been completed now and as far as the bypass

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 is concerned is along with the manholes as well so all the design has been completed

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 and now now we've just got to perform the actual work pretend did you have a comment

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 to make or I saw you brought your hand down yeah actually Chris touched on it good morning

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 this pretendation deputy director water wastewater Chris did touch on the lessons learned I think

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 one of the critical things that we've learned in the past few months just dealing with some

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 other bypass issues is that we in moving forward we need to include the by actual bypass in

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 our design so that we can define when things happen what happens because in the past we've

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 left the contractor to define it and put it in place and just learning from what we know

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 with what happened at easily with text on contractor we we had several days and weeks

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 of our staff trying to figure things out and remedy it at the last minute instead of that

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 we went back this one we really redesigned it and that's why this additional cost is

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 to make sure that we have ample amount of redundancy in the system so that the overflows

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 the fails never happen okay mr. Ryback you have another question yes I was just curious

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 you have mentioned redesign and the dollar amount you're asking for is for construction

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 is there also a design amount is there a designer a separate consultant civil engineer involved

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 so will there be another change order for them as well there is a design consultant

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 Hayes and Sawyer that's part of this project and we've actually brought their change order

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 forth pre term actually presented that change order I don't remember the exact date but

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 we have brought that for to PB and council okay so that's already been approved yes sir

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 okay very good thank you thank you any other questions do we have a motion to approve item

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 A so moved thank you in a second oh Barbara's seconding all in favor say aye opposed motion

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 carries item B Barbara I just have a question I understand that we're we're going to deny

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 that but tell me what a utility scale what utility scale solar energy is yes ma'am we

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 have a think Terry Nolte's on on the line he can he can respond to that Terry yes good

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 morning chairman chair Parker and members the PUB Terry Nolte assistant GM at DME so utility

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 scale solar it would be anything larger than a megawatt in size and as you're probably

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 aware we have a number of contracts out there that are in excess of 75 megawatts of solar

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 capacity this was actually an RFP that we issued in late 2019 with COVID we had a number

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 of discussions with potential bidders we narrowed it to two bidders and we went back to with

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 our with our detailed contract the selected bidder delayed the start date for another

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 year and increased their price and so we are rejecting this RFP or this bid and closing

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 out this procurement because it's no longer the most cost effective incremental piece

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 of solar generation for our portfolio we've also miss Russell we've also kind of changed

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 our strategy a little bit as a result of the winter storm and we're going to be optimizing

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 several of our renewable energy contracts to try to make them more rateable and dependable

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 you're on mute Susan and jumper mr. jumper go ahead yeah thank you so to kind of follow

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 up that Terry's does that mean we're not like looking for other options at this point

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 where instead what you just said kind of trying to leverage our current contracts yes sir

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 mr. jumper we will be trying to optimize the existing contracts we will more than likely

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 later this year issue a new RFP for some form of renewable whether it's coastal wind or

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 additional solar at this point our portfolio is pretty full up in terms of our ability

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 to meet our hundred percent renewable objectives with the contracts that we currently have

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 in place so unless we see a significant uptick in in demand load growth within the system

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 we should be in pretty good shape for at least another year and a half or two years other

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 questions do we have a motion to approve mr. Russell proved second Karen to Vinnie all

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 in favor say aye aye carried next is consider the approval of the April 12 2021 minutes

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 does anyone have any changes seeing none do we have a motion to approve the minutes mr.

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 cheek moved approval mr. Russell seconded all in favor say aye aye opposed okay next

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 is management reports madam chair and members of the pub so we have a couple items for you

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 the first item is a contract extension notification this is a change in our lock box with Wells

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 Fargo I don't know if if Krista or Ryan are on the phone but if anyone has any questions

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 we'll be happy to answer any questions regarding that item is the board member have a question

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 all right okay the the next item is just a follow-up memo regarding the minutes I know

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 we had previously sent a memo to the PB but there were still some additional questions

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 and just want to see if if I'm if the memo that I sent you made made the item clear for

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 you I know that recently the council adopted a new boarding commission handbook and that

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 should have that should have gone to you already and if it hasn't please let me know and I'm

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 happy to send that to you but I think the bottom line is that the minutes are the official

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 record of of the city and and they are in in the format that's dictated by the city

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 secretary's office to the city council and so it's not those minutes are not intended

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 to be verbatim and so it just gives you kind of a sense of what the agenda item was what

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 the vote was and then obviously then the video becomes kind of the the detailed record of

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 what the discussion was but again I hope that was clear for you if not I'll be happy to

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 answer any questions on that item go ahead um thanks Tony so the the letter that was

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 in our item details for the agenda item didn't have the attachment which was the memo I wonder

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 if you could resend that I mean it probably is redundant but I've never I haven't seen

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 the actual memo yet okay yeah we we can get that back out to you okay yes ma'am thanks

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 okay um the next item is on um before we move on madam chairman I have a question oh I'm

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 sorry I didn't see you sorry okay uh Tony I was curious um these recordings are the

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 actual verbatim um minutes if you will of our meetings how long are those retained um

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 my understanding is they were they're retained indefinitely okay so there's no like in a

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 year or two they expire and are deleted correct that's that's again my understanding uh Katherine

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 I don't know if if you know any different um now if there's a change in the state retention

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 guidelines and that may have they certainly have an impact on on the retention of those

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 I'm just curious because video takes a lot of memory and if you're recording all of these

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 various and sundry uh board meetings in addition to city council and so forth um I don't assume

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 the IT folks will eventually want to get rid of it so I was just curious if there was a

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 time frame um yeah no no time frame that I'm aware of okay thank you yes sir all right

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 I think now we can move on okay so for uh future agenda items um obviously today we'll

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 we'll be having discussion with you with our finance team on on budget priorities again

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 that was a um a request that we had gotten in a meeting with the chair and the vice chair

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 and city management team and so we hope you find that discussion um good for you and and

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 certainly we're looking forward to to your thoughts on on the budget going forward and

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 then um after that there'll be a number of discussions that will be coming to you related

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 to the utility rates and budgets uh in conjunction with the you know 21 22 uh fiscal year um and

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 just especially for those that are new um that budget is due to the council on july 31st

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 right and so uh usually right after the first part of the first week in august is when the

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 the proposed budget is presented to the city council and obviously that'll come with the

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 recommendations from the pub so that's that's kind of the end the end game for for the pub

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 as we're trying to get get to that deadline and and uh and certainly we'll be coming to you and

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 and and seeking your direction on on rates and the proposed budgets uh and capital budgets um uh for

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 for fiscal year 21 22 so uh with that if there's any any other item that that you want to see on the

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 on the future agendas or if any questions on these items i'll be happy to answer any questions on that

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 any questions um madam chairwoman i have a question sorry barbara i was just curious so

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 this uh budget will we be having some kind of uh work review session to go over the budget in more

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 detail yes sir um you'll you'll get you'll get um line item budgets you get very detailed um

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 information on each of the utilities budgets and rates um and they'll be coming to you um here

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 pretty quick okay so in the next month and a half or two months we'll be seeing those then yes sir

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 so so don't plan on any vacations um you're ours for the next two months well thanks for the heads

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 up thank you madam chairman um miss rascal did you have a question yes yes barbara has a question

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 barbara you like barbara better i do too yes i did um you said something about a handbook or

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 something we should have gotten or we got how how would that have been received i don't recall

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 seeing it it should have it should have been an email to you uh barbara um it was the handbook

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 on for the boards and commissions uh the council did make some updates to that and it should have

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 been emailed to you uh i think on friday came from rosa rios yes from rosa rio she's the city

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 secretary correct so if you didn't get that give me a call or send me an email and we'll get that

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 back out to you okay okay so the the last item is the uh just the new business items um you know

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 we've obviously worked through uh the listing that we had uh we still have a pending item from solid

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 waste that'll be coming to you uh here pretty quick um and then um you know the uh there was a

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 question um this was a question that originally came from from mr soph and uh we think that um as

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 part of the budget we'll be able to to try to address that question um and then finally you know

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 the the question on the minutes and that was that was resolved today and karen i'll make sure we'll

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 get that memo and attachment to you um before the end of the day so if there's any other uh items

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 that you'd like to add to this list we're happy to um to hear you guys out that's all i have miss

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 miss parker okay i'd like to uh see what the routine is for replacing water meters and uh are

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 we mostly now when we replace an electric meter we're going to the smart meters uh just i know

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 there's a regular time limit that you have for replacing water meters in the city and and and

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 how far are we along in replacing the electric meters with smart meters if we could know about

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 that next time yeah that's that's that's a good question um yeah we can certainly uh come back

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 and and provide you some more context that where we are currently um going through a study on

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 looking at um automating our water meters and certainly uh their replacement schedule which is

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 about a 10-year replacement schedule will be part of that analysis uh certainly there'll be a

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 financial impact but we can certainly get that to you uh that study will also look um at our am

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 current ami system for for electric um and um i can tell you we currently have about a dozen

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 non ami meters out there on the electric side um and and those folks are just um you know folks

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 that still not comfortable with as as those residents um vacate then we did we are planning

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 us to convert those uh to ami uh but um but that analysis that we're doing on the water side will

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 also encompass uh the electric side and so once that study um is ready we'll we'll be able to

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 respond to and provide you the context that you need as barbara if that's okay with you thank you

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 very much yes ma'am okay then we'll move on to the work session so the first item is to receive

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 a report hold a discussion and give staff direction regarding solid waste department

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 services assistance program formerly known as porch collections program

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 so uh we have um eugene mckinney um he's um he's coming up right now and and get settled in the

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 staff computer and and get his presentation up so morning everyone hey eugene

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 mckinney

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 oh

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 so

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 we're almost there just give us one more second eugene likes to make a grand entrance

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 well you could have always given us the standby due to technical difficulties that would have

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 been a good one i wish i could but no it's just eugene

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 we're almost there there he is

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 okay presentation yeah but i think you

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 not sure okay sure

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 i think we're ready sorry for the delays

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 so good morning sorry for the delays

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 madam chairwoman morning board members and everyone in attendance my name is eugene mckinney i'm the

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 deputy director with solid waste and recycling department and i'm here this morning to talk about

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 our porch collection program as well as some improvements where are we are suggesting

00:29:17.360 --> 00:29:23.760
 so what is our porch collection program it's a program that allows

00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:33.120
 our customers assistance with getting their carts to the curb on their collection day how does it work

00:29:33.120 --> 00:29:41.440
 the customer contacts customer service requesting the service customer service

00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:48.080
 contact solid waste typically a field service supervisor or crew leader goes out to the location

00:29:48.800 --> 00:29:55.840
 they approve the service they locate the container and they communicate that back to the operator

00:29:55.840 --> 00:30:05.120
 at that time a yellow lid is placed on the bin on the service day the driver operator identifies

00:30:05.120 --> 00:30:14.160
 the bin visually at that time once it's identified the cart is serviced manually the driver typically

00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:18.720
 gets out of the vehicle goes and gets the can brings it back to the truck tips it with an

00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:26.080
 automated arm and that collection is complete so here's what our drivers see they see when they

00:30:26.080 --> 00:30:32.080
 pull up they see a container with the yellow lid what we'd like to do and we'd like to rebrand

00:30:32.080 --> 00:30:40.400
 the program and move away from porch collection to service assistance program this will do a few

00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:45.760
 things for us it'll increase customer privacy by removing those green lids out of the community

00:30:45.760 --> 00:30:53.520
 that way everyone will have a standard color lid it strengthens by installing an application process

00:30:53.520 --> 00:31:00.240
 it increases our application process to ensure eligibility it allows for an auditing of records

00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:07.440
 that way everything is stored electronically we'll run this program through our Rubicon system

00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:13.280
 decrease in administrative time the times that we actually touch paperwork you'll see here an

00:31:13.280 --> 00:31:19.520
 application this application will work through customer service and customer service will work

00:31:19.520 --> 00:31:27.120
 closely with us as far as the paperwork and notifying so part a of this application is the

00:31:27.120 --> 00:31:33.360
 customer's information part b is the doctor the physician importantly more importantly part b

00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:41.440
 where the doctor determines if this eligibility is permanent or temporary part c is more terms and

00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:47.200
 conditions of the program we put a lot of emphasis on the customer changing locations

00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:53.520
 because we don't have a process in place now where if they go online and do it electronically

00:31:53.520 --> 00:31:57.760
 the system may not notify this system may not identify that they're a porch collection

00:31:57.760 --> 00:32:03.600
 uh customer and they may some service gaps may happen so if when the customer calls and lets

00:32:03.600 --> 00:32:08.640
 customer service know they're moving they'll let solid waste know immediately and we'll take care

00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:15.680
 of the change again our recommendations we want to rename the program from solids to solid waste

00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:21.120
 services citizens program we want to update a application process to require adopters validation

00:32:21.120 --> 00:32:27.600
 for eligibility currently our departmental leaders crew leader supervisor going out and they're just

00:32:27.600 --> 00:32:32.720
 determining where the container should sit there's no eligibility to really determine in this process

00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:37.120
 in the current process all the other layers will be removed so we'll have a uniform color list

00:32:37.120 --> 00:32:42.800
 throughout the community as well the most important thing will allow our new rubicon smart city

00:32:42.800 --> 00:32:48.320
 application to alert our operators when they come up on the stop so what you'll see is what the

00:32:48.320 --> 00:32:53.120
 driver's operators will see on their screen when they approach one of these stops they'll see the

00:32:53.120 --> 00:32:59.040
 customer's name and address which we have blotted out here as well there'll be an ambient alert

00:32:59.040 --> 00:33:04.640
 100 to 150 feet away from the house so when they start approaching the house there'll be an alert

00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:10.080
 that alert is going to stay on until that customer is serviced and is manually turned off

00:33:10.080 --> 00:33:16.080
 so again no more yellow lives it's an ambient alarm plus the the operator is visually alerted

00:33:16.080 --> 00:33:17.840
 when we come across one of these stops

00:33:17.840 --> 00:33:23.520
 questions comments your feedback is welcome

00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:38.400
 questions yes lee go ahead oh thank you ma'am uh i'm curious um the program previously had

00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:44.960
 uh no requirement for identification that the person had an issue with getting their

00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:50.480
 can to the curb did i understand that correctly yes yes sir you are you are correct there was

00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:56.000
 just a phone call and the representative went out and basically determined where the container

00:33:56.000 --> 00:34:01.600
 should sit but there was no eligibility who should who should receive and the most important one of

00:34:01.600 --> 00:34:06.400
 the most important uh facets of this new our recommendation is we want to take that out of

00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:13.440
 our hands determining eligibility okay well you're still determining eligibility but just based on

00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:18.480
 some criteria from the third party correct yes it'll be their doctor their physician

00:34:19.040 --> 00:34:23.760
 determining eligibility based on their medical conditions what if they're just

00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:31.600
 pretty much elderly you know 90 years old can't get to the curb very easily is is that something

00:34:31.600 --> 00:34:39.200
 that they can also have this assistance program for on the surface i'll say yes because if there's an

00:34:39.200 --> 00:34:44.160
 opportunity for tripping fall easily slipping fall and things like that that doctor can make

00:34:44.160 --> 00:34:49.520
 that assessment as well and there's um there's even on the application whether it's permanent

00:34:49.520 --> 00:34:55.680
 or it's temporary okay um you know but more importantly those opportunities that create

00:34:55.680 --> 00:35:00.160
 you know and it's confidential won't be disclosed to solid waste what that is it'll just be the

00:35:00.160 --> 00:35:05.840
 physician saying yes or no they meet the criteria for the program well and i do like going away from

00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:15.120
 the uh yellow lid i it can be dangerous to identify that someone and madam chair

00:35:15.120 --> 00:35:22.960
 madam chair i don't know if if if um bg mentioned it but this did go through the committee on um

00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:28.000
 disabilities and so so that did go there first so that's coming with their recommendations

00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:32.960
 yes but anyways i just want to make sure that that was communicated yeah thank you thank you

00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:38.400
 thank you tony we we did um march the 19th and they they love the fact that there's a formal

00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:43.680
 application process now so that way it's not just being given to everyone as well as the yellow

00:35:43.680 --> 00:35:52.960
 lids are being removed from the community to kind of reduce some threats billy go ahead so uh i

00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:59.520
 appreciate the process change um so what the picture that you saw was just one circumstance i

00:35:59.520 --> 00:36:05.600
 realized that but it was out in front of their home so you run into a dual or a catch 22 there

00:36:05.600 --> 00:36:12.800
 because they're supposed to be not visible from the street until beginning in the end of trash day

00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:22.640
 uh is there some sort of uh waiver or something for people who can't get them back and forth

00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:31.040
 um so i heard part of it you said the container shouldn't be visible from the street right well i

00:36:31.040 --> 00:36:35.280
 didn't say that i'm sorry i'm trying to understand what you're saying i said that but what i'm saying

00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:41.120
 is that's the city's rules right is it except for on the beginning and the end of trash day

00:36:41.120 --> 00:36:47.520
 they shouldn't be visible from the street right okay i'm sorry so with the new program their

00:36:47.520 --> 00:36:53.520
 address is locked into the system so even if it's on the side of the house or somewhere else as long

00:36:53.520 --> 00:36:58.480
 as there we have a party application process they have to allow us permission to enter the property

00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:05.040
 on that said day so it doesn't have to be visible as long as this we have access to it that system

00:37:05.040 --> 00:37:11.040
 is still going to alert us that this is a house that requires this this service yeah my concern

00:37:11.040 --> 00:37:16.480
 would be like trash days tuesday and that trash cans out there on wednesday is that going to create

00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:23.200
 some sort of code violation no sir so once we service the container if it's in the yard behind

00:37:23.200 --> 00:37:27.760
 the fence we'll replace it we'll take it right back to where we got it from so those customers

00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:31.600
 at least through this process you won't have to worry about a container being left out overnight

00:37:31.600 --> 00:37:37.680
 or visible beyond the service day okay thank you yeah billy i think i think billy the only the only

00:37:37.680 --> 00:37:43.680
 thing that may be out there and obviously that's not the city's role would be in the hoa so certain

00:37:43.680 --> 00:37:48.720
 hoa's have certain rules and so those those that are governed separately from from the city so

00:37:48.720 --> 00:37:55.920
 certainly yeah then go ahead thank you okay i got a couple of things um so it sounds like

00:37:55.920 --> 00:38:01.600
 we're mostly just reorganizing an existing program rebranding maybe automating some things

00:38:01.600 --> 00:38:10.000
 electrifying uh is that correct yes we like to call it a program enhancement okay uh so is there

00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:16.960
 any additional costs that come along with that no additional costs okay uh so then uh from an

00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:22.800
 operational standpoint um the uh was it the rubicon system that alerts the driver is that what you were

00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:31.120
 saying yes so if if for example two houses next door to each other require this service uh does

00:38:31.120 --> 00:38:36.800
 this just kind of stack the alerts or how do they manage multiple alerts in the same area if it's

00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:41.920
 you know 100 150 feet out right we we just had this conversation this morning just fine and

00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:46.560
 tuning because rubicon is actually is actually improving it's a process improvement every day

00:38:46.560 --> 00:38:53.840
 for we're finding out new things so the conversation of stacked um customers so it'll stack it'll stack

00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:57.440
 it in the system so what you'll see is you'll hear that ambient alert and there'll be a green

00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:03.040
 dot that flashes as well as another address will come up so it's insurability that that customer

00:39:03.040 --> 00:39:11.520
 will be serviced and the range it typically you know 150 to 200 feet and once you pass the house

00:39:11.520 --> 00:39:15.520
 we have to manually there's a green dot that stays illuminated and we have manually turn it off once

00:39:15.520 --> 00:39:21.040
 we pass the house so with the drivers when you know of course they're sneeze out there they know

00:39:21.040 --> 00:39:25.840
 their routes their managers of the communities they know what they're doing so they are quick

00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:31.520
 to turn their ambient alarm off or the light off so that doesn't happen so they don't have stack

00:39:31.520 --> 00:39:39.120
 sort of don't create a confusion so but to answer your question yeah um we'll no customer in this

00:39:39.120 --> 00:39:52.320
 situation will be left behind you're on mute again well they're washing my windows i'm trying

00:39:52.320 --> 00:40:02.320
 not to have the noise in the background um and you have what you need from us Eugene yes okay all

00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:08.960
 right thank you all you know actually i guess i can bring it up under concluding items

00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:15.280
 it might be nice to see the Rubicon system in a work session because it's fairly new to us

00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:24.320
 correct yeah it's fairly new and we do start we we plan to start our presentations early June

00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:32.320
 okay we do so you will see this in its most updated version again it's a process improvement

00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:36.800
 they are showing us new things every day with the capabilities of the system right now

00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:42.480
 seeing are wonderful so early June we'll start rolling out our presentation processes through

00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:50.320
 the different boarding committees so it's coming wonderful yeah so Susan I just just want to make

00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:55.040
 sure that I didn't hear any opposition so I'm assuming that everybody's good just proceeding

00:40:55.040 --> 00:41:03.040
 with these changes okay very good thank you thank you thank you all right next item thank you Mr.

00:41:03.040 --> 00:41:08.560
 McKinney receive a report and hold a discussion and give staff direction on priorities for the

00:41:08.560 --> 00:41:14.320
 fiscal year 2021 2022 electric water wastewater and solid waste budgets

00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:20.720
 good morning pb members chair nick vinson assistant director of finance give me a

00:41:20.720 --> 00:41:22.160
 second i'll pull the presentation out

00:41:26.160 --> 00:41:35.680
 take my glasses off they're a little fogged up this morning

00:41:35.680 --> 00:41:47.680
 all right

00:41:47.680 --> 00:41:53.920
 and so as I said I'm nick vinson assistant director of finance and this is a joint

00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:58.640
 presentation I'll run through the first six slides and then turn it over to the directors

00:41:58.640 --> 00:42:03.120
 to cover their priorities with you for this upcoming budget cycle a couple things before

00:42:03.120 --> 00:42:09.200
 we get started we are encouraging the pb members to ask questions give us feedback regarding the

00:42:09.200 --> 00:42:15.120
 priorities you want to see included in this 22 budget these are staffs recommendations it doesn't

00:42:15.120 --> 00:42:19.360
 mean these can't change based on your feedback but we definitely want to have that dialogue with you

00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:28.400
 and discuss them so the objective of the presentation is really to look at the budget

00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:32.240
 cycle and the current priorities that are identified by the staff members mostly the

00:42:32.240 --> 00:42:37.840
 directors from the departments give us any feedback of what you think of those anything

00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:42.480
 new you'd like to see in the budget we'll be happy to bring that back forward to you during

00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:47.280
 the budget discussions so each of the utilities will present today electric water wastewater and

00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:55.440
 solid waste and then we'll talk about those next steps so what we want to do for several of the new

00:42:55.440 --> 00:43:03.120
 pb members is really just show you what the budget process is made up of and when it starts and when

00:43:03.120 --> 00:43:08.720
 it goes through and so the city's fiscal year runs from october 1st to september 30th budget

00:43:08.720 --> 00:43:12.960
 discussions really start in march you can see over here to your left we have that budget kickoff

00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:18.240
 and then march and may is where we're currently at we're looking at that budget development and

00:43:18.240 --> 00:43:23.040
 planning and then we get in june and july and talking about the city council budget presentations

00:43:23.040 --> 00:43:28.160
 august we have that city council budget workshop that tony had mentioned earlier

00:43:28.160 --> 00:43:32.880
 that's usually the first tuesday of august but then september we have our public hearings for

00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:37.920
 the tax rate in the budget prior to city council adoption and then towards the end of september the

00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:43.040
 city council does adopt the budget so several steps and several conversations to come forward

00:43:43.040 --> 00:43:50.160
 to the pb in the coming months a city council priorities the city council did meet about a month

00:43:50.160 --> 00:43:55.200
 and a half ago to talk about priorities to be included in the fiscal year 2022 budget and these

00:43:55.200 --> 00:44:00.640
 are them you can see anything from implementing an economic development strategic plan to renovating

00:44:00.640 --> 00:44:07.760
 the loop 28 building completing the mobility plan and then funding for city hall west improvements

00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:11.440
 and then improving that capital improvement project communication around the city

00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:16.640
 so several priorities that they have established with their 22 budget process

00:44:16.640 --> 00:44:23.440
 a budget term so we just want to give some basic terms and that you will hear throughout the

00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:30.240
 budgeting process and you may hear today so prior to today's meeting the finance department has been

00:44:30.240 --> 00:44:35.040
 working with departments to develop a baseline budget and a baseline budget simply means the

00:44:35.040 --> 00:44:40.960
 fiscal year 2021 budget roll forward so taking that budget that was adopted by both the pb and

00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:46.560
 city council and rolling it forward to the next fiscal year in doing that what we do is remove

00:44:46.560 --> 00:44:52.400
 any one-time expenses associated with supplemental packages from the prior year so those come out of

00:44:52.400 --> 00:45:00.000
 that baseline budget we do look at lot cost that have been updated so you know transfers to the

00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.520
 general fund technology services of inner fund transfers those are the ones we look at we do lock

00:45:05.520 --> 00:45:10.560
 those now for departments and baseline adjustments what these are these are increases to the baseline

00:45:10.560 --> 00:45:16.880
 budget and these could be example is office supplies increasing from 500 to 1500 would be

00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:22.480
 an example of the baseline adjustment uh covid reinstatements if you do remember during the

00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:27.200
 presentation we had last week and several department didn't make operational decreases

00:45:27.200 --> 00:45:32.000
 in response to the covid pandemic so departments do have an opportunity this year to get those

00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:36.880
 items reinstated and they are being submitted separately for the city management team to look

00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:42.960
 at as part of the budgeting process um something little request um we usually consider these new

00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:47.440
 initiatives that could be new personnel for a department it could be a new vehicle for a

00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:52.080
 department or it could be a new software program as an example as mentioned down there below

00:45:52.080 --> 00:46:01.280
 so some major data before you move on this is lee i have a just brief question so when you say the

00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:07.920
 baseline budget is rolled forward so each department does not start a budget from scratch

00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:13.680
 they take last year's budget it becomes this year's budget and then it's merely reworked

00:46:13.680 --> 00:46:19.200
 for the current year did i understand that correctly that is correct mr rabak the previous

00:46:19.200 --> 00:46:24.160
 budget is rolled forward um to the next year that is correct absolutely thank you

00:46:24.160 --> 00:46:30.560
 um and one other thing about that mr rabak just to point out you know

00:46:30.560 --> 00:46:35.200
 there's several reasons for that some of them be in detail so each department does a great job

00:46:35.200 --> 00:46:40.000
 providing detail how that budget was developed as people continue to promote around the city or

00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:45.600
 move to new positions the next person coming into that role can pick up and where they left off so

00:46:45.600 --> 00:46:51.440
 and definitely benefit to be had in that but that is the reason for that um so a couple important

00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:57.040
 dates that are coming up departments do submit the baseline adjustments um in april so we did

00:46:57.040 --> 00:47:02.160
 recently receive those from departments the finance team is currently working with departments to go

00:47:02.160 --> 00:47:08.160
 through them and clean them up and really get them in a presentable format for the city management

00:47:08.160 --> 00:47:15.200
 team we start those internal budget review and discussions in may of this year so actually here

00:47:15.200 --> 00:47:19.680
 in a few days we'll start meeting with the cmo team to talk about those budgets that were submitted

00:47:19.680 --> 00:47:25.920
 prior to coming to pub and city council and then in june and july those are the presentations to

00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:31.680
 both the pub and city council and then of course we'll incorporate any feedback you give us today

00:47:31.680 --> 00:47:36.640
 for those future meetings into this budget and then of course the adoption in september

00:47:36.640 --> 00:47:41.920
 about the city council pb adoption of the budget usually late august or early september

00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:48.400
 of a city council usually be in mid to late september stay dick i hate to stop you again

00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:54.960
 but what's the cmo uh the city management office city management office okay great thank you city

00:47:54.960 --> 00:48:04.160
 manager and assistant city managers and then what i'll do i believe um tony puente is going to walk

00:48:04.160 --> 00:48:08.480
 through the dme slide so i'll turn it over to him any questions for me

00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:19.600
 all right so um just to cover the slide obviously some of these items are items that

00:48:19.600 --> 00:48:26.400
 should not be new to you obviously um the first couple um you know we did discuss with you um

00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:30.640
 when we came and talked with you about the impact of of winter storm uri

00:48:30.640 --> 00:48:32.640
 nick can you go back one slide

00:48:32.640 --> 00:48:40.480
 all right so uh again you know what weatherization um at at the denner energy center is something

00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:45.600
 that that we're certainly looking at um actively along with looking at our fuel supply

00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:51.280
 if you recall we do have currently one gas supplier but we are looking at various options

00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:58.880
 that that could include some diversification in our fuel supply out there at the dinner center

00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:06.560
 and then certainly the second item as you know you know there's still ongoing discussions in austin

00:49:06.560 --> 00:49:13.920
 and we're actively engaged with our local delegation as well as various other parties

00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:21.440
 at at the capital through our lobbyist focus advocacy and our participation in uh tppa which

00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:27.840
 is the texas public power association comprised of over 70 municipal owned utilities and so we're

00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:34.320
 certainly active um and participating in those and and at this point there's really not been a whole

00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:39.760
 lot of movement uh the time is clicking on the legislature uh but um you know we're certainly

00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:45.760
 you know keeping in tune with the with the various bills that are out there um the the next item um

00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:51.200
 you know the then renewable resource plan was adopted a few years ago um it's it's a little

00:49:51.200 --> 00:49:57.360
 stale it's a little dated uh there there are some you know uh definitional issues within that plan

00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:03.200
 that we'd like to come back and do some cleanup um for you and then and then have a discussion

00:50:03.200 --> 00:50:10.000
 discussion with you uh don't anticipate major deviations from from the plan of you know certainly

00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:14.880
 not the hundred percent renewable goal uh but certainly we'll we'll come back to to the pub

00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:19.520
 and have that discussion we already talked to you a little bit about you know some restructuring on

00:50:19.520 --> 00:50:24.880
 some of our renewable uh contracts and how we take those forward so that's really trying to encompass

00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:31.440
 all of those issues within within this bullet item another major uh project and this is this

00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:37.600
 is very project specific that we wanted to just bring to you is uh you know we had direction from

00:50:37.600 --> 00:50:43.520
 the council a few years back to pursue a gas insulated substation uh to replace our current

00:50:43.520 --> 00:50:48.640
 hickory substation and so that's a pretty important project for us it's about a little bit over 20

00:50:48.640 --> 00:50:56.000
 million dollar project uh that's already ongoing uh related to that is also uh this transmission

00:50:56.000 --> 00:51:01.280
 line that basically cuts right through the unt campus and so very important to the university

00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:06.560
 internally the overall uh community and so we felt that this is a major project that we felt

00:51:06.560 --> 00:51:13.040
 uh we'd like to recommend as a priority for you uh going forward uh and as you know we've we uh did

00:51:13.040 --> 00:51:20.720
 abandon the eagle substation project um and so uh so that was a a major change uh that then created

00:51:20.720 --> 00:51:26.160
 um uh the need for us to do a little bit of redesign on the hickory gis substation to

00:51:26.160 --> 00:51:31.360
 to serve unt's load from that station rather than what was originally contemplated at the

00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:38.320
 eagle substation and just just uh for your curiosity the eagle uh substation was also

00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:43.760
 intended to be a gas insulated substation um and that differentiates from the air insulated gas

00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:48.640
 stations which is uh um substations which is what we normally see out there with the

00:51:48.640 --> 00:51:54.000
 you know big walls or big uh chain lead fences um you know these are more um these are housed

00:51:54.000 --> 00:52:00.240
 inside so these large building structures that that you would see um the next item and and this

00:52:00.240 --> 00:52:05.440
 item really came from the council's uh priorities and it was really we were asked to do an informal

00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:10.160
 staff report so we felt that we needed to duplicate that here and that's really just to look at uh

00:52:10.160 --> 00:52:16.400
 undergrounding um some electric lines across the city and our jerry fildler in our engineering

00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:21.120
 department is is looking at that he's come up with a pretty good uh you know what i feel pretty good

00:52:21.120 --> 00:52:26.960
 solid methodology of how how he's narrowed down the various corridors and uh so once we have that

00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:31.280
 we will our plan is to then send that informal staff report to both the the city council and

00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:41.040
 also the pub um yes billy um i know we've been looking at that enclosed substation for years

00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:47.200
 um did we i guess did they finalize the design is it gonna look like the beer barn or

00:52:47.200 --> 00:52:56.080
 is it gonna look like what the beer barn no no um you know if you recall billy we we worked really

00:52:56.080 --> 00:53:01.840
 closely with that with with that neighborhood um we went through a variety of different designs

00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:06.480
 and so it's gonna be uh you know in keeping with the uh with the design with you know with the

00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:12.720
 design kind of um that that fits that neighborhood uh certainly the wall was a major component and

00:53:12.720 --> 00:53:17.920
 so we're cognizant of that as well so we've not deviated from that what we have deviated

00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:23.600
 a little bit is that rather than piecemeal that project like we've done various other projects

00:53:23.600 --> 00:53:28.800
 we're going to basically do a design build um on that project and so we're we are working through

00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:34.480
 that now with our procurement and legal department but uh uh again um i i think the neighborhood will

00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:41.600
 be pleased with with that project okay thank you go ahead Barbara hi tony is this the one on uh

00:53:41.600 --> 00:53:49.600
 bernard and hickory um no ma'am it's it's actually um between uh hickory and oak and and bonnie bray

00:53:49.600 --> 00:53:57.520
 um bonnie bray wasn't yeah several years ago we had a a citizens committee meet and they came up

00:53:57.520 --> 00:54:07.280
 with some suggestions and so now you're saying that that's going to change no no ma'am the the

00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:14.080
 the design is still unchanged um it's how we how we're going to procure and construct the facility

00:54:14.080 --> 00:54:20.400
 rather than do separate contracts uh we're going to do a single uh design build contract where you

00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:25.680
 have a engineering firm that comes in and they handle all you know from nuts to bolts on on that

00:54:25.680 --> 00:54:30.640
 facility uh we think that there will be some some cost savings uh the one that you're referencing

00:54:30.640 --> 00:54:36.640
 is actually and i believe is bernard i think it's the corner of eagle and bernard um that that

00:54:36.640 --> 00:54:41.440
 substation there we did abandon that we that that substation is not going to be needed for probably

00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:48.800
 another 30 years uh we have uh retained that property and um and ultimately there will be a

00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:55.600
 substation there but that'll be very much into the future so yeah would it be helpful to bring

00:54:55.680 --> 00:55:02.000
 the design back through a work session just to whether we've got new board members to begin with

00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:08.080
 and then to refresh all of our memories yeah yeah well we're happy to do that or we can certainly

00:55:08.080 --> 00:55:13.120
 do an informal staff report to you with all the details again you know the community you know we

00:55:13.120 --> 00:55:18.240
 work very closely with the community that some of the council you know that and and so so we've we've

00:55:18.240 --> 00:55:22.400
 had questions about you're not changing anything no we're not changing anything we're just changing

00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:30.960
 how we procure and construct the facility go ahead karen uh i was on the citizens design committee

00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:37.680
 and uh council member paul melcher was also on it he came up with the idea of sort of making it look

00:55:37.680 --> 00:55:44.960
 like a building you know like like they do in brooklyn you know you could walk by it and not

00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:51.120
 necessarily think oh goodness this is a transition station so that was the that was the big idea

00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:58.000
 we didn't arrive at a definite design in that committee so i'm sure things have moved forward

00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:04.560
 in the last four or five years whenever that was um so i'd be really i'm really curious about what

00:56:04.560 --> 00:56:11.360
 has been uh you know developed since then i know that there were going to be some panels with some

00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:20.000
 public art and um there was also going to be a little facade element from uh what is now the

00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:26.320
 monroe pierson building which was the warehouse of the guy who built my house on oak street

00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:32.880
 so it'd be really nice tie-in you know for the history of the neighborhood and i know that those

00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:37.680
 ideas haven't been dropped so i'll be very curious to see how they've been developed in more detail

00:56:37.680 --> 00:56:41.840
 well we can certainly um like i said i we can get you an informal staff report i think we already

00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:47.120
 did one for the council we'll just brush that up say it to you and if and if there's still questions

00:56:47.120 --> 00:56:50.800
 after that we can come back and do a work session on that we'll be happy to do that i think it'll

00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:58.880
 be great and it'll also be serve as a nice model for other substations um you know in the city if

00:56:58.880 --> 00:57:04.800
 it works out if the design works out and fits in with the neighborhood thanks i remember the major

00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:12.000
 concern about that was it was one of the gateways in the denton and so they weren't uh you know that

00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:19.360
 karen and i both served on that and they wanted it to not just look like an electrical substation

00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:27.040
 be driving in the city from that one yeah yeah i think it's important for the pb to understand

00:57:27.040 --> 00:57:33.840
 too that while while gis substation does take considerably less less property um than a regular

00:57:33.840 --> 00:57:41.520
 air insulated uh substation um the cost is is considerably more uh for that type of substation

00:57:41.520 --> 00:57:46.880
 and not only that but uh also understand that our that our folks certainly those in our substation

00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:54.960
 um the division um don't have a lot of experience dealing with these sorts of uh substations and so

00:57:54.960 --> 00:58:00.400
 likely what we'll be doing is is probably looking to some outsource help and obviously that that

00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:04.400
 tends to sometimes cost you a little bit more and not only that but it did it could impact

00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:10.400
 reliability um if those contractors have to come in from out of town to work on an issue with the

00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:14.720
 substation that may that may that may have an impact on our reliability and so those are

00:58:14.720 --> 00:58:19.200
 things that we're going to be looking at and and certainly talking with you certainly as we come

00:58:19.200 --> 00:58:23.280
 back with you on on the budget and and start really looking at at operating that facility

00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:35.280
 once it's on the ground so nick i think i had one more item um

00:58:39.680 --> 00:58:46.960
 and so so in the last item um some of you might be aware of it but we did get called in um from

00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:55.040
 the public utility commission to do a full rate case on our transmission cost of service um and

00:58:55.040 --> 00:59:02.240
 so so we felt that that because of the potential financial impact um on our on our fund um we felt

00:59:02.240 --> 00:59:06.400
 that that was important for us to have us here as a priority uh the pub and the council has already

00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:11.040
 approved a contract with a company called new gen strategies and we're already actively working

00:59:11.040 --> 00:59:19.360
 with them uh to get that prepared that is due back to the commission um before november um we're

00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:26.240
 we're hopeful uh that of a good outcome but uh but again um any decrease in our rate of return

00:59:26.240 --> 00:59:32.960
 will have a an economic impact on our on our fund and it's something that that we're cognizant of

00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:38.800
 and we're working through that and made preparations for that already through our our multi-year

00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:46.480
 forecasting for for this particular fund um but it's also important to know that uh we do uh want

00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:53.840
 to uh twice a year do interim rate case filings with the commission uh but it's been about 15

00:59:53.840 --> 01:00:00.800
 years since we last went for a full rate case and so it seemed pretty logical um for us to be called

01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:06.080
 in for that and so um so we'll again we'll be working through that uh i are already working

01:00:06.080 --> 01:00:12.160
 through that now um and working closely with our finance uh department and also bill shepherd in

01:00:12.160 --> 01:00:18.000
 our um energy services area are working through that so with that i'll be happy to answer any

01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:22.240
 questions or if there's any other items that you'd like to see on here certainly i'm happy

01:00:22.240 --> 01:00:30.400
 to discuss that with you any questions no just comment tony i know this is a big deal and i hope

01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:36.960
 everybody sees that the t-cost is a huge deal for the city of bitten and how we get our return

01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:44.960
 on our investments and it can go south or it can go really really well or go south yeah the the

01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:49.520
 other the other time that i'll mention to you it'll it'll um actually you you approved it today was a

01:00:49.520 --> 01:00:55.840
 a contract with nugent strategies as well to do a cost of service study and so that's going to be

01:00:55.840 --> 01:01:01.520
 part of of that discussion and consideration going forward is you know what potential rate impact

01:01:01.520 --> 01:01:08.880
 does they have um if if our rate of return on the transmission cost of services cut in half or

01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:14.240
 or worse you know so what is the overall impact uh because uh because that the amount of revenue

01:01:14.240 --> 01:01:18.800
 that we've been getting has certainly been a good source of revenue that's that's been helpful

01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:29.120
 uh to to sustain our base rates um you know in the last few years so but thanks all right thank you

01:01:43.600 --> 01:01:50.240
 get started i'll wait until nick pulls it up good morning uh madam chair members of the pub i believe

01:01:50.240 --> 01:01:55.920
 the next one is water and followed by wastewater i'm pretend a smoke deputy director for water and

01:01:55.920 --> 01:02:04.240
 wastewater and i'm going to go through the next two slides uh starting with water um if you look at

01:02:04.240 --> 01:02:08.960
 the first half or the first three bullet points there are some uh large capital projects that are

01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:16.240
 really important and our our focus areas for the water side of things and then the remaining three

01:02:16.240 --> 01:02:23.760
 are studies or plans that we definitely want to uh enhance or update and um get everything um you

01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:28.480
 know wrapped up within those studies so starting with the first one great roberts water treatment

01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:35.840
 band it is an upgrade um sometimes it's called upgrade but upgrade project where we will be

01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:42.720
 adding adding approximately five million gallons uh capacity to the ray robert's water treatment

01:02:42.720 --> 01:02:49.280
 plants um i think recently in the last couple months we've gotten the design contract to be in

01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:57.600
 council uh the design is going to go up until the end of the year and uh the construction will follow

01:02:57.600 --> 01:03:05.360
 in 2022 all year until the end of 2022 uh as part of this project as well what we've done

01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:12.080
 um given our snow good conditions there were uh considerable impacts to this particular plant ray

01:03:12.080 --> 01:03:21.360
 robert's equipment facility and we are planning on adding some of the weatherization elements to it

01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:28.800
 and in the near future we will may have to add those to the design contract as well as include

01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:34.800
 include that in the construction piece so that that is being worked it's nice it's good to have

01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:39.040
 a design project at the treatment facility and just add on to that that would give us

01:03:39.040 --> 01:03:43.840
 make sure that we are ready for the next weather event

01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:51.440
 the second one is northwood booster pump station it's another larger project it's close to total

01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:57.680
 cost is close to 20 million dollars it's adding a booster pump station on the north side of the city

01:03:57.680 --> 01:04:04.160
 and then laying a transmission main between two of our elevated structures on the north side

01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:14.800
 between the between elm and loop 288 and 35 so that's the general area the third project

01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:22.000
 is a transmission main it's north side water this is the continuation of the one that we

01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:28.480
 recently mapped up there was a north side water main that was laid on bonnie bray south of 35e

01:04:29.040 --> 01:04:35.920
 this is the piece that is north of 35e and then it ultimately goes and connects to the mckinna

01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:43.120
 water tower at scripter and bonnie bray that project is currently facing some challenges

01:04:43.120 --> 01:04:50.640
 we are working with the bond company to make sure that we get a good contractor the original

01:04:50.640 --> 01:04:57.280
 contractor at this point as i understand it has gone bankrupt he's wrapped up his business

01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:04.960
 and we're looking to move this project forward current timeline i think we're planning on

01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:11.360
 wrapping this up by end of next year just given the issues that we're facing with the

01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:19.040
 surety and and the getting the new contractor on board cost of service i think nick can add to

01:05:19.040 --> 01:05:24.960
 more to that a little bit give you a timeline and we're with it and what are the next steps nick

01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:35.360
 yeah sure thank you pripam so the water cost of service study was recently completed we did

01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:40.720
 actually present the results to you last week in that presentation for both water and wastewater

01:05:40.720 --> 01:05:44.720
 definitely answer any questions if you have any after seeing that presentation

01:05:44.720 --> 01:05:51.280
 otherwise we will use that study to walk you through the 2022 budget process for the rates

01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:55.040
 in the budget so that will be incorporated into this upcoming budget cycle

01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:01.760
 moving right along we are planning on updating our impact fee study

01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:09.440
 the original study was completed back in 2018 typically we have a five-year cycle that we use

01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:15.600
 to continuously update and upkeep our list of projects and the impact fees that we're

01:06:15.600 --> 01:06:22.400
 collecting to implement those projects in this particular case we did have one large

01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:28.640
 development which is the coal hunter come in we did have we did look at some of the improvements

01:06:28.640 --> 01:06:35.040
 that are needed as part of that their development but that's not yet folded into the impact fee

01:06:35.040 --> 01:06:40.720
 study and since it's been close to three or four years we think it's a good time to

01:06:40.720 --> 01:06:46.160
 update the study and include the coal hunter development within that that's a next

01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:53.360
 focus area for us to get that thing going and wrap it up and then last but not least just given

01:06:53.360 --> 01:07:02.240
 the freezing conditions in February we are going back to looking at our emergency response plan

01:07:02.240 --> 01:07:09.600
 and implement some of the lessons learned from the inclement weather events that happen we're

01:07:09.600 --> 01:07:17.760
 definitely going to add some of the responses how do we respond to certain elements and how do we

01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:26.240
 be prepared next time something like this happens so we're going to update that any questions on the

01:07:26.240 --> 01:07:41.520
 water focus areas karen go ahead hi so sorry i had to had to get all my screens figured out

01:07:41.520 --> 01:07:48.160
 um so pre-time can you confirm what i thought i heard which is that the contractor on bonnie bray

01:07:48.160 --> 01:07:57.840
 has gone bankrupt correct so the original contractor s and j um stopped work stopped responding we had

01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:04.400
 several meetings since october and what we hear is the bonding company has now jumped in and they're

01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:12.800
 running it and as far as i know that that company is is wrapping up it's so those pipes are going to

01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:20.640
 be sitting along there like indefinitely uh actually uh we're really uh pushing hard for the

01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:27.040
 bonding company uh we're close to selecting the new contractor i think that really turned around in

01:08:27.040 --> 01:08:34.800
 last couple months uh and then um we can bring back a an update if you may on that particular

01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:41.280
 project because everyone's so interested and it's front and center you can see those five sitting

01:08:41.280 --> 01:08:47.840
 there yeah we were wondering if they were going to become part of the new playground at mckenna

01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:57.200
 yeah no that's that's not going to happen we we have it we'll have the contractor we're um we're

01:08:57.200 --> 01:09:03.120
 hoping we can get the contractor on board uh this summer and then get that project going in the fall

01:09:03.120 --> 01:09:07.520
 right thank you i will spread the word at my neighborhood groups because they're wondering

01:09:08.080 --> 01:09:12.960
 i got a situation madam chair i gotta go oh okay all right thank you billy

01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:22.320
 i have a quick question um there was a discussion of a presentation of a water cost study

01:09:22.320 --> 01:09:25.760
 did we have that and am i not remembering it

01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:32.560
 mr ryback that's correct it's part of that presentation last week we did provide you a

01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:37.360
 high level summary of the cost of service study for both water and wastewater our full intent is

01:09:37.360 --> 01:09:43.040
 um as the consultant publishes the final report is for us to submit that to you as an informal

01:09:43.040 --> 01:09:47.680
 staff report so yes the presentation you can afford at a high level we do plan to submit the

01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:54.240
 complete report to you okay i will look forward to that thank you

01:10:04.240 --> 01:10:11.120
 all right moving along let's talk about the wastewater operational focus areas um this we

01:10:11.120 --> 01:10:22.000
 it's one master plan i think we we're we're really looking at um creating a wastewater master plan

01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:29.920
 currently what we have is um several areas of the city are being modeled and and we're tracking that

01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:35.760
 but they're separate it's not a cohesive plan it's not something that we can um move forward

01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:43.360
 and create a capital capital project list so that is our really big focus area we're pushing that

01:10:43.360 --> 01:10:51.520
 forward you can see a contract fairly soon in the next uh four to six weeks come to puv and council

01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:57.040
 for getting a consultant on board and getting the master plan started typically it's anywhere

01:10:57.040 --> 01:11:03.040
 between 12 to 18 months for the entire plan to complete but we're we're looking at our

01:11:03.040 --> 01:11:10.480
 consultant see if we can expedite some of that and given our current challenges um solid handling

01:11:10.480 --> 01:11:21.440
 okay uh solids handling project is at our reclamation plant on concrete um it has been

01:11:21.440 --> 01:11:28.000
 a project for a while and we recently last couple months we had a contract for a consultant to go

01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:35.680
 through puv and council it's for the design phase for this particular project the design will be

01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:43.280
 completed by uh end of the year and then similar to the ray robert upgrade project this project

01:11:43.280 --> 01:11:50.960
 will be wrapped up by end of next year as far as construction so uh for this also similar to what

01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:57.840
 we did with ray robert's we're going to include uh weatherization elements at the wastewater

01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:04.080
 reclamation plant we're going to add to the scope we're currently discussing with the consultant

01:12:04.080 --> 01:12:10.880
 what are additional things that we could add and get more bang for the buck if you may with that

01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:18.400
 particular project robson ranch water reclamation plant we currently have a really small reclamation

01:12:18.400 --> 01:12:25.440
 plant uh in an ocean ranch that we want to decommission and uh get remove it um and then

01:12:25.440 --> 01:12:32.960
 kind of divert all the flows to back to our concrete water reclamation plant so that is a

01:12:32.960 --> 01:12:40.080
 project that's currently under design we have a consultant that's working on designing um this

01:12:40.080 --> 01:12:49.280
 particular project there are a couple steps here also we have to go through the um the state and

01:12:49.280 --> 01:12:56.720
 pcq to get permission and go through the steps for decommissioning this particular plant so uh

01:12:56.720 --> 01:13:06.480
 this project we're planning on um completing the design by late summer early fall and then

01:13:07.040 --> 01:13:14.000
 getting it constructed by next um may i think the may 2022 is our timeline currently for

01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:20.560
 decommissioning this um treatment facility and then the last is just the hickory creek basin

01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:28.080
 we have several capacity improvements in that as as you may know this is a really uh fast paced

01:13:28.080 --> 01:13:35.200
 growth area where a lot of development and a lot of um interest um you can see when when you look

01:13:35.200 --> 01:13:42.640
 at the hickory creek basin we also include the industrial area next to the airport so you can see

01:13:42.640 --> 01:13:50.640
 that that area is also getting a lot of attention from developers we based on all of these growth we

01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:57.200
 do have a couple of large interceptor upgrade projects along the hickory creek interceptor

01:13:57.200 --> 01:14:06.720
 itself phase one and two we went out to bid we have a contractor on board and we will be starting

01:14:06.720 --> 01:14:13.440
 construction this summer on that particular project but right after that it will be followed

01:14:13.440 --> 01:14:20.080
 by phase three which is currently under design we're 90 percent design and we're going to move

01:14:20.080 --> 01:14:28.800
 forward to go out to bid immediately after uh we wrap up the um this design phase and then last

01:14:28.800 --> 01:14:36.320
 but not least is the drive forward interceptor it's a smaller piece of connection um and this

01:14:36.320 --> 01:14:43.600
 uh particular one we will be starting design fairly shortly and then uh that will follow the

01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:49.120
 two hickory creek interceptor project as far as construction timeline all these projects are

01:14:49.120 --> 01:14:57.680
 scheduled to wrap up uh end of next year 2022 um that's the current timeline that we're anticipating

01:14:57.680 --> 01:15:05.440
 but we're moving forward as fast as we can madam chair before before we move on i do want to just

01:15:05.440 --> 01:15:11.280
 quickly introduce uh stephen gay he's our new uh director of water wastewater he's the guy in the

01:15:11.280 --> 01:15:18.400
 white shirt um is stephen came to us by way of colorado uh we really like him so please do not

01:15:18.400 --> 01:15:25.600
 scare him away um he's so uh so again you know stephen stephen worked closely with pre-tem on

01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:31.600
 on these uh list of items and um and you know and he and i have had some good conversations he's

01:15:31.600 --> 01:15:35.520
 been here i think a whole month now uh but certainly want to welcome him and i want to

01:15:35.520 --> 01:15:38.400
 introduce him to you guys so welcome aboard

01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:51.440
 pre-tem if that finishes your slide i don't have questions for wastewater otherwise

01:15:51.440 --> 01:15:52.720
 the next slide is solid waste

01:15:52.720 --> 01:16:03.600
 looks like you're good thank you thank you all right well uh good morning madam chair uh members

01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:07.760
 of the board my name is brian burner i am the director of solid waste for the city of denton i

01:16:07.760 --> 01:16:12.880
 do appreciate the opportunity to uh present to you our operational focus areas that we have planned

01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:20.880
 for uh fy 2122 as with all good departments in the city continuous improvement is the mantra that we

01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:26.160
 continue to try to abide by uh we're going to be focusing on service delivery cost reduction and

01:16:26.160 --> 01:16:32.880
 most importantly safety as i've reported after our uh winter weather uh update a lot of our

01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:38.000
 decisions were made on and and a result of safety keeping our residents safe keeping our operators

01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:42.800
 safe trying to reduce the risk management costs aligned there and so a lot of things that we'll

01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:49.840
 be focusing on uh is uh goes around uh safety and the delivery of such uh we'll be looking at our

01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:54.560
 yard waste brush and bulk collection programs in see how we can make them more efficient

01:16:54.560 --> 01:17:03.520
 make the the process with the uh citizens uh more uh inclusive uh we'll be uh you remember

01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:07.520
 may remember at your last meeting we approved a new scale house software system so we'll be

01:17:07.520 --> 01:17:12.880
 focusing on implementing that and as we talked a little bit earlier now that we have the rubicon

01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:18.000
 smart system implemented we'll be looking at optimizing it within our routes within our

01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:25.920
 operations to ensure that we have a a high service level delivery within solid waste one of the big

01:17:25.920 --> 01:17:30.320
 key items we'll be looking at is the implementation of our comprehensive solid waste management

01:17:30.320 --> 01:17:36.240
 strategy we look for final delivery at the end of this fiscal year within the next couple of months

01:17:36.240 --> 01:17:42.960
 you'll be seeing some information flowing from a draft copy to provide feedback and comment on so

01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:51.360
 please uh wait with bated breath on that uh report we have a recycling contamination issue

01:17:51.360 --> 01:17:56.960
 within the city of denton while the material that we've been collecting over the past several years

01:17:56.960 --> 01:18:04.000
 remains uh consistent because of global forces requiring higher qualities of materials hitting

01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:12.400
 that the the uh uh the the third party market a lot of the material which may have been accepted

01:18:12.400 --> 01:18:19.040
 gladly in you know as most recently as 18 months ago is now being considered contamination so we'll

01:18:19.040 --> 01:18:26.400
 be again trying to continue our outreach with empty clean dry and loose material as well as better

01:18:26.400 --> 01:18:33.440
 focused on on the material that's in the in the cart themselves uh solid waste is a very mechanical

01:18:33.440 --> 01:18:39.920
 dependent operation when we run into our backup pieces of equipment and sometimes short on

01:18:39.920 --> 01:18:46.240
 equipment it significantly impacts the amount of of the way that we service our our customers

01:18:46.240 --> 01:18:52.960
 in the city of denton so we'll be working closely with fleet to ensure that the performance and our

01:18:52.960 --> 01:18:59.120
 uptime and availability are optimized within the fleet and then finally disposal capacity management

01:18:59.120 --> 01:19:04.160
 to ensuring that we get the most weight uh waste in the least amount of space uh increasing

01:19:04.160 --> 01:19:09.520
 diversion uh decreasing the amount of actual landfill material that's that's going into our

01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:17.360
 our fill cells so uh it's a it's a it's a fairly uh uh full bucket that we we've identified here

01:19:17.360 --> 01:19:23.360
 for fy 2122 uh but would appreciate any questions or comments you might have with regard to the focus

01:19:23.360 --> 01:19:31.440
 areas lee go ahead i see your hands up yes thank you um i'm wondering what uh diversion uh tactics

01:19:31.440 --> 01:19:37.840
 or plans you have to uh manage the capacity could you give us a little bit more detail on that

01:19:37.840 --> 01:19:43.360
 well currently we're diverting almost 30 percent of all the material that's collected within the

01:19:43.360 --> 01:19:49.280
 city of denton a lot of that's due to yard waste what we're doing at the curb but based on the

01:19:49.280 --> 01:19:54.000
 feedback that we're getting from solid waste our solid waste management strategy uh looking at

01:19:54.000 --> 01:20:00.080
 increased organics diversion looking at potential metals uh probably possibly partnering with third

01:20:00.080 --> 01:20:07.520
 party reuse programs so that materials that may have some beneficial reuse uh uh that just you

01:20:07.520 --> 01:20:11.920
 know it's not worn out but you just don't want it or need it anymore a lot of times it ends up in

01:20:11.920 --> 01:20:17.120
 you know as bulk waste or in the cart if we can find a third party opportunity where it can actually

01:20:17.120 --> 01:20:23.600
 be reused and put to some good use and benefit uh that that's the kind of material we're looking at

01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:31.200
 so again uh capturing that type of waste and then moving uh to the next step forward thank you go

01:20:31.200 --> 01:20:43.600
 ahead welcome you're on mute barbara you're on mute brian don't you have a program like that now

01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:50.960
 we do but again uh we want to take this next step uh you know we've you know we're currently uh we do

01:20:50.960 --> 01:20:57.360
 provide the feedstock for our beneficial reuse program but uh the amount of organics that we're

01:20:57.360 --> 01:21:03.760
 accepting uh as far as food waste from residents and commercial is very very low is there an

01:21:03.760 --> 01:21:08.320
 opportunity for us to increase so that's some of the some of the opportunity that we'll be looking

01:21:08.320 --> 01:21:15.280
 for uh from an organic standpoint uh and while you know from a a a beneficial reuse or beneficial

01:21:15.280 --> 01:21:21.840
 reuse but from a third party uh you know uh like like a goodwill or a salvation army or something

01:21:21.840 --> 01:21:28.000
 like that while we continue to promote that a lot of the material that we are seeing at the curb and

01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:33.600
 in the cart uh has life but again you know once it gets into the cart of the curb uh we have to pick

01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:38.000
 it up and dispose of it in the landfill so we want to try to create opportunities to stop that

01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:48.720
 before it gets to that point oh go ahead karen uh so brian this is the this is the same this

01:21:48.720 --> 01:21:54.480
 comprehensive plan is the same as the task force that we've that's been meeting via zoom

01:21:54.480 --> 01:22:03.040
 yeah that well what what the the the strategy the the task force is that is that is part of that

01:22:03.040 --> 01:22:08.320
 development so really it's the third third step in the strategy development and again we've we've

01:22:08.320 --> 01:22:14.560
 done a a city-wide waste characterization so we know what's in our waste now uh we've completed

01:22:14.560 --> 01:22:22.640
 the survey to from a big macro and what's important to the community and now through our think tank and

01:22:22.640 --> 01:22:29.840
 focus groups we're trying to dial in in a micro standpoint to figure out you know exactly uh uh

01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:36.400
 how might some programs look what's important how much additional might be might we be willing to pay

01:22:36.400 --> 01:22:41.120
 are we doing something now that we shouldn't be doing and then once we get all that together

01:22:41.120 --> 01:22:47.680
 looking at at state federal local laws that may either help support us or hinder us looking at that

01:22:47.680 --> 01:22:53.200
 at bigger global markets uh shares economic development issues the comp plan that we're

01:22:53.200 --> 01:22:59.040
 currently being updated trying to throw all that in together to really identify the tools uh that

01:22:59.040 --> 01:23:05.680
 we have and will need to move our solid waste uh uh program forward yeah i participated in

01:23:05.680 --> 01:23:12.960
 one a few weeks ago i had to miss the last one but i was sort of impressed but also curious at the

01:23:12.960 --> 01:23:18.640
 macro level discussion i mean it was almost i think there were actually some powerpoint slides

01:23:18.640 --> 01:23:26.480
 from the moon yeah looking at the earth so i'm hoping that the and i'm sure this is going to

01:23:26.480 --> 01:23:32.000
 happen but just since the purpose of this part of the agenda is to give you advice i'm hoping

01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:39.600
 that that becomes more narrow and that we can look at it that the final recommendations are specific

01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:47.360
 to dentin because the dentin is fairly unique um i think there's a lot of willingness for more

01:23:47.360 --> 01:23:56.080
 recycling and more composting just tap into the education aspects of it but i'm sure that's all

01:23:56.080 --> 01:24:03.120
 already um you know already in the in the works but just make sure that it's the recommendations

01:24:03.120 --> 01:24:13.120
 are specific they will be yeah thanks thank you all right any other questions

01:24:13.120 --> 01:24:21.040
 susan i think there's just one more slide just to summarize the presentation then

01:24:21.040 --> 01:24:25.200
 we can take any additional feedback that you have for us so we work to develop the budget

01:24:26.080 --> 01:24:32.400
 for each of these utilities so really just next steps you know here today to solicit input from

01:24:32.400 --> 01:24:37.920
 the pv regarding additional budget priorities if you have any please let us know now is definitely

01:24:37.920 --> 01:24:44.240
 the time as we work to develop the fiscal year 2022 budget we are currently working to conduct

01:24:44.240 --> 01:24:49.680
 internal reviews of the submitted budgets with directors so conversations with the city management

01:24:49.680 --> 01:24:54.000
 team will be happening in the next few weeks within the next month or so we'll be circling

01:24:54.000 --> 01:24:59.600
 back to puv with further conversations and then we'll work to develop those presentations to

01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:04.400
 bring forward to you so definitely plenty of time for input as we proceed through the fiscal year

01:25:04.400 --> 01:25:09.360
 2022 budget this is really just a kick-starting presentation you're really getting feedback that

01:25:09.360 --> 01:25:17.440
 you have for us today thank you uh any other feedback from any board members

01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:28.000
 looks like you're good to go thank you thank you okay that leads us to concluding items does any

01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:33.040
 board member wish to make any comments or add anything to a future agenda item

01:25:33.040 --> 01:25:43.760
 doesn't look like it all right do we have a motion to adjourn it is 1026 so moved all right we are

01:25:43.760 --> 01:25:47.120
 adjourned. Thank you.

