WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:08.640 >> Good afternoon. 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:13.100 Welcome to the city of Denton health and building standards commission meeting. 00:00:13.100 --> 00:00:15.120 We would like to get the meeting started. 00:00:15.120 --> 00:00:20.520 Selena, if you could please provide roll call. 00:00:20.520 --> 00:00:45.300 David Howard, David Mullen, Sebastian Dogadillo, Michael Swagger, Tori Mitchell. 00:00:45.300 --> 00:00:48.760 >> Seeing all of those, so I assume that you were able to verify that. 00:00:48.760 --> 00:00:55.680 Yes, and it looks like we are missing Tim Stolfitz and Tyndale Addison. 00:00:55.680 --> 00:00:56.680 >> Very good. 00:00:56.680 --> 00:00:57.680 Thank you. 00:00:57.680 --> 00:01:02.020 With roll call being completed, we have established a quorum. 00:01:02.020 --> 00:01:06.040 We do have a couple of announcements that I would like to make. 00:01:06.040 --> 00:01:09.520 One would be the resignation of Matthew Jensen. 00:01:09.520 --> 00:01:14.180 Unfortunately, he has formally resigned as of yesterday. 00:01:14.180 --> 00:01:22.240 We do have an absence as Selena had indicated that Tim Stolfitz is currently unexcused, 00:01:22.240 --> 00:01:25.640 not certain as to what his status is. 00:01:25.640 --> 00:01:28.200 So we will leave it at that for now. 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:29.840 I will call the meeting to order. 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:33.240 We have a very brief agenda. 00:01:33.240 --> 00:01:38.560 What I would like to do would be to appoint a temporary chair. 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:44.160 Mr. Coward, as you have served in the rule in the past, would you consider being a temporary 00:01:44.160 --> 00:01:48.280 chair for nominations? 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:50.920 >> Now I'm understanding why you called me. 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:57.960 If you need me to do so, I guess I can, but I'm sure there's more capable people. 00:01:57.960 --> 00:02:02.400 >> It would be great if we could at least get you for a temporary chair, and if you 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:07.360 get nominated as chair, then I'm sorry about your luck, but at least in this role you can't 00:02:07.360 --> 00:02:11.280 do much but other than ask for such nominations. 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:17.200 So if you wouldn't mind, if you could solicit nominations from the floor for appointment 00:02:17.200 --> 00:02:18.200 of a chair. 00:02:18.200 --> 00:02:26.600 >> Do we have any other names for the chair to be added to the list? 00:02:26.600 --> 00:02:33.800 >> We're operating in the capacity of a temporary chair, so I need a formal recommendation from 00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:37.560 someone to appoint a chair, please. 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:41.880 >> I'll make the nomination for Greg. 00:02:41.880 --> 00:02:50.360 >> I thought I liked that person. 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:56.720 >> Mr. Mullen, if you could please state your name, your name for the record and the nomination. 00:02:56.720 --> 00:02:59.800 >> David Mullen, and I nominate Greg. 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:01.920 He's done a great job in the past. 00:03:01.920 --> 00:03:04.640 >> That's Mr. Greg Coward, okay? 00:03:04.640 --> 00:03:07.440 >> Entertainment is what it is. 00:03:07.440 --> 00:03:17.160 >> Chair, if you wanted to ask if there's any other nominations for that position? 00:03:17.160 --> 00:03:20.280 >> Do we have any other nominations for that position? 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:25.440 Somebody's got to call a vote. 00:03:25.440 --> 00:03:28.040 >> That will be you, sir. 00:03:28.040 --> 00:03:30.640 >> Unfortunately, I guess we have to have a vote. 00:03:30.640 --> 00:03:34.320 There is a motion on the table. 00:03:34.320 --> 00:03:39.160 >> So all those in favor of Greg being, what is it, temporary chair? 00:03:39.160 --> 00:03:41.120 >> No, that would be permanent chair. 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:42.120 >> Dang. 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:43.120 I tried. 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:44.200 >> That's a good try. 00:03:44.200 --> 00:03:50.840 Yeah, and if you could unmute and state who and your vote, yes or no, please. 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:58.080 Selena, if you want to do a roll call, please, that would be helpful. 00:03:58.080 --> 00:03:59.080 >> Okay. 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:00.080 Greg Coward. 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:01.080 >> Really? 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:04.800 Okay. 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:08.800 Yes. 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:11.800 >> David Mullen. 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:12.800 >> Yes. 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:15.800 >> Sebastian DeGadillo. 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:16.800 >> Yeah. 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:17.800 Sure. 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:18.800 >> Michael Swigert. 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:19.800 >> Yes. 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:26.480 >> And Tory Mitchell. 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:29.560 >> They be muted. 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:32.280 Is Tory on the list? 00:04:32.280 --> 00:04:33.800 >> Yes. 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:37.160 She's currently muted. 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:39.240 >> Okay. 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:43.400 >> Are you able to see her? 00:04:43.400 --> 00:04:44.480 >> I am not. 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:45.480 She's calling in. 00:04:45.480 --> 00:05:07.520 >> Tory, if you could unmute, that would be helpful. 00:05:07.520 --> 00:05:12.720 Stephanie, will we suffice, you know, that we did have the one nomination? 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:17.080 >> Can you repeat that, Scott? 00:05:17.080 --> 00:05:19.440 >> Will it suffice? 00:05:19.440 --> 00:05:24.960 We're missing one, but ultimately we did have four affirmative, and we have no one else 00:05:24.960 --> 00:05:25.960 on the slate. 00:05:25.960 --> 00:05:26.960 >> Yes. 00:05:26.960 --> 00:05:33.800 We have a quorum, and the vote was, I guess, unanimous for the number of people that showed 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:34.800 up. 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:36.800 Are we missing Tory's vote? 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:38.360 >> Tory's vote. 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:41.320 But ultimately, we have no other candidates as well. 00:05:41.320 --> 00:05:42.320 >> Correct. 00:05:42.320 --> 00:05:45.560 We have three votes, four, correct? 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:47.880 >> We have four votes. 00:05:47.880 --> 00:05:48.880 >> Yes. 00:05:48.880 --> 00:05:49.880 That's fine. 00:05:49.880 --> 00:05:50.880 >> Okay. 00:05:50.880 --> 00:05:51.880 Very good. 00:05:51.880 --> 00:05:52.880 Thank you. 00:05:52.880 --> 00:05:53.880 Congratulations, Mr. Chair. 00:05:53.880 --> 00:06:03.080 So maybe you should -- so if you could ask for a vice chair, as well, please, a nomination 00:06:03.080 --> 00:06:07.200 from the floor. 00:06:07.200 --> 00:06:11.200 You're muted. 00:06:11.200 --> 00:06:12.200 How about that? 00:06:12.200 --> 00:06:14.560 >> That's better. 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:16.460 >> We need a motion for a vice chair. 00:06:16.460 --> 00:06:30.360 Does anybody have a motion to make? 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:32.240 Somebody's got to make one. 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:34.040 >> Thank you. 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:38.360 I'll make myself. 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:39.360 >> And who said that? 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:42.840 >> Yep, for the record, state your name and who you're nominating, please. 00:06:42.840 --> 00:06:48.880 >> I'll nominate myself, if nothing else, because someone should, I guess. 00:06:48.880 --> 00:06:52.160 >> So we have Sebastian who's nominated himself. 00:06:52.160 --> 00:07:00.120 Do we have any other names being given to -- for this co-chair? 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:03.020 Okay. 00:07:03.020 --> 00:07:05.560 So we'll take it to a vote. 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:11.440 All those in favor of Sebastian being the co-chair -- co-chair, is that right? 00:07:11.440 --> 00:07:12.440 >> Vice-chair. 00:07:12.440 --> 00:07:13.440 >> Vice-chair. 00:07:13.440 --> 00:07:14.440 Excuse me. 00:07:14.440 --> 00:07:15.600 >> Yes, sir. 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:21.200 >> Please state aye and your name or make sure we know. 00:07:21.200 --> 00:07:26.440 >> We can do another roll call for your convenience, sir. 00:07:26.440 --> 00:07:28.440 >> Greg Coward. 00:07:28.440 --> 00:07:29.440 >> Aye. 00:07:29.440 --> 00:07:31.040 >> David Mullen. 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:32.040 >> Aye. 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:37.160 >> Sebastian Deladio. 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:38.160 >> Aye. 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:39.160 >> Michael Swagger. 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:40.160 >> Aye. 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:41.160 >> Yes. 00:07:41.160 --> 00:07:44.000 >> And Tori Mitchell who's still muted. 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:45.000 >> Yes. 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:46.000 >> Yes. 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:47.000 >> Yay! 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:48.000 >> Welcome, Tori. 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:49.000 >> Hi. 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:50.000 >> Very good. 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:59.120 Well, thank you for that, and congratulations to both of you. 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:04.380 With that being said, Mr. Chair, I will turn this meeting over to you, and you can go to 00:08:04.380 --> 00:08:05.380 item B. 00:08:05.380 --> 00:08:16.880 >> Hang on just a minute, I got a lot of noise going on here. 00:08:16.880 --> 00:08:25.720 Selena, do you have the meeting minutes? 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:27.960 I apparently don't have them for some reason. 00:08:27.960 --> 00:08:31.220 I printed everything off but that, so it's really helpful. 00:08:31.220 --> 00:08:37.600 >> Yes, I can send those to you really quick if you want. 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:40.600 >> That would be great. 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:43.600 I apologize. 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:48.080 >> You do have the agenda, sir, so if you would like to skip item B and go to item C, 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:53.640 feel free. 00:08:53.640 --> 00:08:56.680 >> I think you're going to have to go until I receive this e-mail. 00:08:56.680 --> 00:09:01.320 >> Okay, very good. 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:06.800 Ultimately, I guess, is there anyone else on the call that does not have the minutes 00:09:06.800 --> 00:09:12.280 from the January 18th, August 16th, and the February 21st meetings? 00:09:12.280 --> 00:09:20.960 Excuse me, January 18th of 2018, August 16th of 2018, and February 21st of 2019 minutes. 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:27.320 Is anybody else in need of those minutes? 00:09:27.320 --> 00:09:28.880 Okay, very good. 00:09:28.880 --> 00:09:34.160 As we wait for the chair on that, obviously, through COVID, we did not meet. 00:09:34.160 --> 00:09:41.200 The last discussions that we had were really surrounding the 2018 codes and largely that's 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:45.080 what was in consideration of a number of those items. 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:50.220 But if there's anybody that has any comments on those minutes, please feel free to do so 00:09:50.220 --> 00:09:53.280 at this time. 00:09:53.280 --> 00:09:58.280 >> God, I'm sorry. 00:09:58.280 --> 00:10:00.520 I printed everything off, put the meeting minutes. 00:10:00.520 --> 00:10:08.440 I got all the paperwork you had me sign and my parking pass, but I don't have the meeting 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:09.440 minutes for today. 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:10.440 I apologize. 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:11.440 >> Oh, no worries. 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:12.440 No worries. 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:14.440 We can be patient with them. 00:10:14.440 --> 00:10:16.320 >> Did you receive those minutes? 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:20.160 >> That's what I'm looking for. 00:10:20.160 --> 00:10:23.000 They just showed up. 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:25.840 Now I look like I know what I'm doing. 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:29.320 So we've done item A, have we done item B? 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:33.680 >> That would be item B. So is the approval of the minutes if everybody has -- 00:10:33.680 --> 00:10:45.280 >> January 18th, 2018, August 16th, 2018, and February 21st, 2019 meeting minutes. 00:10:45.280 --> 00:10:54.440 Those that are going to consider the approval have to have been at the meeting, correct? 00:10:54.440 --> 00:11:00.840 >> I spoke with the city secretary, and she stated that you can vote on the minutes even 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:03.080 if you were not present. 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:04.080 >> Great. 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:06.080 Thank you. 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:10.040 So then you just need a motion -- >> Motion to approve those meetings minutes 00:11:10.040 --> 00:11:11.040 as stated. 00:11:11.040 --> 00:11:15.600 >> Greg, I was there at those meetings that don't make the motion. 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:17.600 >> So we have a -- >> David Mullen. 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:23.480 >> David has a motion on the table to accept the meeting minutes as they are posted. 00:11:23.480 --> 00:11:25.040 Do we have a second? 00:11:25.040 --> 00:11:26.040 >> I'll second that. 00:11:26.040 --> 00:11:27.040 Mike Swigert. 00:11:27.040 --> 00:11:28.920 >> Mike is seconded. 00:11:28.920 --> 00:11:31.440 All those in favor, say aye. 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:32.440 >> Aye. 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:33.440 >> Aye. 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:37.000 >> Those opposed, say nay. 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:38.000 Motion passes. 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:41.280 Does that work for you, Scott? 00:11:41.280 --> 00:11:42.280 >> Yes, sir. 00:11:42.280 --> 00:11:43.280 We're good. 00:11:43.280 --> 00:11:44.280 Thank you. 00:11:44.280 --> 00:11:45.280 >> Okay. 00:11:45.280 --> 00:11:55.040 Item number C, HPS21-002, instruction to the new commission, Michael and -- how do you 00:11:55.040 --> 00:11:56.920 pronounce your last name? 00:11:56.920 --> 00:11:57.920 Delegado? 00:11:57.920 --> 00:11:58.920 >> Delegado. 00:11:58.920 --> 00:11:59.920 >> Delegado? 00:11:59.920 --> 00:12:00.920 And Greg Coward. 00:12:00.920 --> 00:12:06.120 Oh, we've got -- all of us are new? 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:11.280 >> Tori, Sebastian, and Greg, yes. 00:12:11.280 --> 00:12:16.980 >> And why did the two new people get nominated to do everything? 00:12:16.980 --> 00:12:21.040 >> I'll take that on a sidebar after the fact. 00:12:21.040 --> 00:12:22.920 We like to get the new ones. 00:12:22.920 --> 00:12:29.720 >> Yeah, we'll be -- I'll suggest a meeting location. 00:12:29.720 --> 00:12:34.840 So introduce -- Tori, is Tori on here? 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:36.600 >> Yes, I am. 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:42.440 >> Tori, you want to introduce yourself real quick? 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:43.440 >> Hi. 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:44.760 I'm Tori Mitchell. 00:12:44.760 --> 00:12:50.600 I retired and moved to Denton around about 2017. 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:55.640 I retired in August of 2014 from the military and moved to Denton in 2017. 00:12:55.640 --> 00:13:02.320 I was living in Kalapata and have enjoyed myself since I've arrived to Denton. 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:07.600 >> Well, welcome to Denton and thank you for your service. 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:08.600 I do appreciate it. 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:09.600 >> Thank you for your service. 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:10.600 Yes. 00:13:10.600 --> 00:13:11.600 >> All right. 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:12.600 Thank you all. 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:13.600 >> Sebastian? 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:14.600 >> Yes. 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:17.600 My name is Sebastian Delgadillo. 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:23.760 I'm -- I've actually been living in Denton since about 2006-ish. 00:13:23.760 --> 00:13:25.240 I went to college here. 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:32.160 I found my job around this area, and I really like the town, and I decided I want to go 00:13:32.160 --> 00:13:34.040 in and get involved. 00:13:34.040 --> 00:13:35.040 >> What's your background? 00:13:35.040 --> 00:13:38.240 >> My background is in engineering. 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:39.240 >> Congratulations. 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:44.040 Not an easy thing to do. 00:13:44.040 --> 00:13:45.040 My name is Greg Coward. 00:13:45.040 --> 00:13:51.040 I'm a plumbing and air conditioning contractor, born and raised in this city, and been on 00:13:51.040 --> 00:13:53.720 this committee a number of times. 00:13:53.720 --> 00:13:58.960 So I'm lucky to be on it again and serve with each of you, looking forward to it, all because 00:13:58.960 --> 00:13:59.960 of Scott. 00:13:59.960 --> 00:14:06.000 >> We can have a sidebar later, Scott. 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:07.000 >> Absolutely. 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:08.000 Thank you. 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:09.000 Thank you very much for all of you. 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:12.960 I appreciate your civil service, and our community is better for it. 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:15.680 So I just personally would say thank you. 00:14:15.680 --> 00:14:16.680 >> It's our pleasure. 00:14:16.680 --> 00:14:20.360 If you don't want to give back, then I guess get out. 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:22.520 I didn't say that. 00:14:22.520 --> 00:14:24.240 >> I agree. 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:27.680 >> You like that one there, Tori? 00:14:27.680 --> 00:14:28.680 Okay. 00:14:28.680 --> 00:14:36.640 >> The next part is to receive a report from the discussion regarding the boards of commission 00:14:36.640 --> 00:14:39.640 and debt for you, Scott? 00:14:39.640 --> 00:14:42.640 >> I believe -- Selena, are you doing that? 00:14:42.640 --> 00:14:43.640 >> Yes. 00:14:43.640 --> 00:14:44.640 >> Or Emily. 00:14:44.640 --> 00:14:45.640 >> Appendance policy, Selena? 00:14:45.640 --> 00:14:46.640 >> Yes. 00:14:46.640 --> 00:14:54.640 You all should have received the -- in the backup, the attendance policy, and the main 00:14:54.640 --> 00:15:01.680 thing to touch on, Scott, in that is if you're going to be absent, just to let me or somebody 00:15:01.680 --> 00:15:09.280 know so we are where you're not going to be in, and on that policy, there is also a list 00:15:09.280 --> 00:15:17.160 of excused absences and unexcused absences, and in the meeting, if you are not going to 00:15:17.160 --> 00:15:23.260 be attending for whatever reason, we will be stating your absence and whether it's excused 00:15:23.260 --> 00:15:25.960 or unexcused. 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:32.840 >> Does anybody have any concerns or questions regarding that issue? 00:15:32.840 --> 00:15:37.520 You don't want to have to see the principal. 00:15:37.520 --> 00:15:41.040 >> That's right. 00:15:41.040 --> 00:15:45.640 >> Yeah. 00:15:45.640 --> 00:15:52.000 So is that -- is that section two as well that you just covered, or am I missing -- 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:53.000 >> That's D. 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:54.000 >> Okay. 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:55.000 So you're on to E. 00:15:55.000 --> 00:16:02.080 >> Receive a report and hold a discussion on the proposed adoption of the 2021 building 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:06.040 codes and then the 2020 national electric code. 00:16:06.040 --> 00:16:08.440 I would guess that's you, Scott. 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:15.040 >> I will touch on it, and I will see if Emily would like to add. 00:16:15.040 --> 00:16:18.000 I'm very excited for us to be going down a road. 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:27.400 We went through the vast majority of the 2018s -- actually, we went through all of the 2018s 00:16:27.400 --> 00:16:32.840 pretty intensively, so some of you have served doing that. 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:35.240 This will be a very similar experience. 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:42.440 However, we're going to roll with the changes, and so by saying that is we're going to provide 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:46.640 you with electronic copies of all of the codes. 00:16:46.640 --> 00:16:50.760 So we will provide those in the very near future. 00:16:50.760 --> 00:16:55.360 We will provide an outline, as we have in the past, which will really give you a summary 00:16:55.360 --> 00:17:01.760 of what the code section is that we're proposing to amend, why we're proposing to amend it, 00:17:01.760 --> 00:17:06.020 and give you a better understanding, and then we'll walk through each one of those. 00:17:06.020 --> 00:17:11.280 So we'll start off with really kind of the fundamentals of what the codes are, the building 00:17:11.280 --> 00:17:18.300 blocks, and ultimately address each of the items within what the code contains and how 00:17:18.300 --> 00:17:25.240 those codes work together, and included with that will be the National Electric Code. 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:29.480 That is a different year because it is published on a different cycle. 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:37.200 However, the adopted codes and the proposed adopted codes recognize the National Electric 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:41.440 Code, and it typically is behind that, and it's built right in. 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:46.920 So for those of you that are new to the commission, just have an understanding that because there's 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:52.960 a different year with that, it really is already incorporated into the international code. 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:58.040 So largely we adopt the international codes, and that's where that's at. 00:17:58.040 --> 00:18:01.960 And Emily, did you prepare anything that you'd like to go through? 00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:03.720 I did not. 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:05.840 We're still waiting for those books to come in. 00:18:05.840 --> 00:18:10.440 I did want to just let everybody know, if you've got any questions, please reach out 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:11.440 to me directly. 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:17.580 I'm happy to help just understand what the code is saying or what we're doing. 00:18:17.580 --> 00:18:20.400 So feel free to do that. 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:21.400 Great. 00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:22.400 Thank you. 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:25.760 And we'll get everything out to you as soon as we get it. 00:18:25.760 --> 00:18:26.760 And I guess I'll call... 00:18:26.760 --> 00:18:27.760 Okay. 00:18:27.760 --> 00:18:28.760 Hey, Emily, can you... 00:18:28.760 --> 00:18:29.760 Go ahead, Tori. 00:18:29.760 --> 00:18:30.760 I'm sorry. 00:18:30.760 --> 00:18:31.760 Oh, no. 00:18:31.760 --> 00:18:34.760 I was asking Emily, could she please email us her contact information? 00:18:34.760 --> 00:18:37.040 I don't know if I have it or not. 00:18:37.040 --> 00:18:39.640 Yeah, I can send that out after this. 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:40.640 All right. 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:41.640 Thank you. 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:48.560 I'll have Selena send out a really kind of an overview of the department. 00:18:48.560 --> 00:18:50.520 And so you have Emily and Amber. 00:18:50.520 --> 00:18:56.120 Emily and Amber will play major roles in this, as well as Billy Ooten, which is our assisting 00:18:56.120 --> 00:18:58.200 building official over field services. 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:04.440 Amber is over our plan review services, and Emily is the deputy building official and really 00:19:04.440 --> 00:19:07.200 championing going through the code process. 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:13.040 I can tell you, I have been witnessing her sitting in the conference room in our new 00:19:13.040 --> 00:19:17.280 space going through the code changes. 00:19:17.280 --> 00:19:21.600 So ICC puts on a lot of training sessions. 00:19:21.600 --> 00:19:26.160 I know once you receive these publications, for those of you that are new to the board, 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:29.480 you're going to be completely overwhelmed with the vast amount of material that there 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:31.600 is. 00:19:31.600 --> 00:19:37.280 Our staff does an excellent job of really summarizing, boiling that down and distilling 00:19:37.280 --> 00:19:43.560 it into a very simple, easy to understand language, and that's the documentation that 00:19:43.560 --> 00:19:45.400 you'll receive in addition to that. 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:48.440 So we'll walk through each of the codes independently. 00:19:48.440 --> 00:19:52.320 You'll know in advance of what it is that we're going to be talking to you about. 00:19:52.320 --> 00:19:59.560 We'll provide you with a presentation, and again, the sheets will somewhat speak for 00:19:59.560 --> 00:20:06.520 themselves, and certainly if you have any questions at all, feel free to email any one 00:20:06.520 --> 00:20:10.960 of us, all of us, and we'll provide that clarity. 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:16.480 I would encourage you to be vocal in these meetings. 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:22.440 Certainly want you to be able to articulate the questions that you have, because for just 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:28.040 my experience in doing this, many of the other commission members have the same question. 00:20:28.040 --> 00:20:32.680 And then the other important part to this is what we haven't done to the past is this 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:36.480 is being live-screened. 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:40.520 So the public is also going to have questions or have to have an understanding. 00:20:40.520 --> 00:20:46.600 So there is absolutely no question that shouldn't be asked, and hopefully we're providing it 00:20:46.600 --> 00:20:49.760 in a format that people can digest it. 00:20:49.760 --> 00:20:51.400 Certainly take any of that critique. 00:20:51.400 --> 00:20:54.760 If there are things that we need to move a little slower on, if we need to get a little 00:20:54.760 --> 00:21:02.000 bit more in detail on, do not hesitate to coach us, encourage us, tell us. 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:03.160 We're here to serve you. 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:07.480 You are serving the citizens of Benton, and it should be a good experience. 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:12.600 I think we'll be able to do this pretty expeditiously. 00:21:12.600 --> 00:21:17.760 This format I think will lend itself a lot better to being able to go through the process 00:21:17.760 --> 00:21:21.240 and having the documentation at your fingertips. 00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:26.240 Is there any questions, Mr. Chair, from yourself or anyone on the commission? 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:30.280 Emily, can you hear me? 00:21:30.280 --> 00:21:31.720 Yes. 00:21:31.720 --> 00:21:37.000 So you've been reviewing all these documents, and I'm sure they're exciting, and you've 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:43.240 been marking them up with the items you're wanting to change, modify, or address so that 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:46.000 we can not have to read everything, hopefully. 00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:47.000 Correct. 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:52.840 Do you have any anticipation of having these accepted and part of the code for Denton September 00:21:52.840 --> 00:21:53.840 1? 00:21:53.840 --> 00:21:59.040 Well, Scott probably should talk to that one. 00:21:59.040 --> 00:22:06.200 Well, I thought so, but I was trying to be respectful since you were doing all the work. 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:08.640 Emily has been doing a lot of the heavy lifting. 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:14.480 I will tell you that we have the first work session coming up with council on May 25th, 00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:20.260 so we're going to provide them an introduction to the codes, the rationale for the new members 00:22:20.260 --> 00:22:23.360 that are on the commission. 00:22:23.360 --> 00:22:28.200 We are under the 2012 code. 00:22:28.200 --> 00:22:35.640 The 2021 code was -- they began publishing in, I guess, October, November last year. 00:22:35.640 --> 00:22:41.660 The final one came out probably in February of this year. 00:22:41.660 --> 00:22:49.000 The code review process is already underway for the 2024 codes, so the codes that we're 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:54.160 adopting have been in the process for the past three years. 00:22:54.160 --> 00:23:01.680 Again, with the extensive work that we did with the 2018 codes, we do not anticipate significant 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:08.320 changes from the 2018 to the 2021, so we'll really be carrying forward the work that we 00:23:08.320 --> 00:23:16.960 did with the 2018s, going to provide council an update on May the 24th, if I'm correct 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:24.320 on my date, and then we'll continue to work session those. 00:23:24.320 --> 00:23:28.000 That's really part of what we'll get out to you is we're going to look to send this as 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:34.280 an established date and time and be able to meet at the frequency that is convenient for 00:23:34.280 --> 00:23:36.840 you and as often as you can. 00:23:36.840 --> 00:23:43.960 I will tell you that it is much more effective for you as a commission if you're staying 00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:49.960 engaged into this rather than dragging it out, so if we take and we have a meeting once 00:23:49.960 --> 00:23:56.320 a month, you'll forget everything that you learned the last meeting, so if we can do 00:23:56.320 --> 00:24:02.800 this each week, it will be much more effective for you to kind of understand the correlation 00:24:02.800 --> 00:24:03.800 between them. 00:24:03.800 --> 00:24:07.120 I don't know that your time will allow you to do that, but certainly the staff, we're 00:24:07.120 --> 00:24:15.880 going to work to try to do that for you, and I guess Mr. Chair, it might be a good question 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:21.120 at least to ask why we're on here as it relates to that, is if this is an appropriate time, 00:24:21.120 --> 00:24:27.720 a good time for everyone to meet, just to lock out the three to five window on Thursday. 00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:37.320 So does anybody have any problem with a Thursday every week or do we have to make any offsetting 00:24:37.320 --> 00:24:41.600 concessions and do it two times a month? 00:24:41.600 --> 00:24:44.480 Those of you who need to speak up at this point in time. 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:47.400 How often would we, I mean, how long would we do this every week? 00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:50.720 I mean, is this something that's going to be like a per month? 00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:53.000 A Thursday falls every week. 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:56.880 No, I mean, how many times are we going to meet? 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:07.800 I think that, Commissioner Mullen, I would say that it really is going to depend on, 00:25:07.800 --> 00:25:12.000 you know, the commission and how in depth the commission wants to get. 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:18.800 I will tell you that we will probably program a week for each of the codes based on what 00:25:18.800 --> 00:25:23.400 we've done to the past and the work that's already been performed. 00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:28.360 And I will offer myself up to the new commission members if they'd like to just have kind of 00:25:28.360 --> 00:25:32.120 a sidebar to get brought up to speed. 00:25:32.120 --> 00:25:37.280 And I think that ultimately we could take two or three and have a couple of just mini 00:25:37.280 --> 00:25:43.920 sessions, whether it's a long lunch or something, explain what we've done to the past, where 00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:46.440 we're at, and how to move forward. 00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:50.360 This is Tori, can I just chime in? 00:25:50.360 --> 00:25:57.600 I would like, I prefer to meet weekly and if Thursday at 3 p.m. works for everybody, 00:25:57.600 --> 00:26:00.880 I don't have a problem with that. 00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:04.440 I think we will reap greater rewards doing it weekly. 00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:06.360 That's just my opinion. 00:26:06.360 --> 00:26:12.720 Tori, I appreciate your input, I do agree, I've gone through this before with this staff, 00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:17.480 they're very good at getting it done, but we do need to stay on top of it. 00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:25.460 At this point in time, Scott, Emily, I think we ought to consider trying to make this something 00:26:25.460 --> 00:26:28.400 we do every week on Thursday at 3 o'clock. 00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:34.400 If it will block out two hours, if it takes only one hour or we get stumped, then we can 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:39.120 adjust and if it starts falling off and people aren't available, then that may be how we 00:26:39.120 --> 00:26:40.120 have to address it. 00:26:40.120 --> 00:26:43.000 Anybody have any input? 00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:49.400 I think my only concern is, is that going to be, is city staff going to be able to keep 00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:53.040 up with all this stuff if we meet every week? 00:26:53.040 --> 00:26:55.320 I remember we met like every other week. 00:26:55.320 --> 00:26:58.520 This staff is phenomenal, they'll make it happen. 00:26:58.520 --> 00:26:59.640 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:00.720 We absolutely will. 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:05.400 We have been working on this for quite some time since the publications have come out, 00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:07.120 so we're really ahead of the curve. 00:27:07.120 --> 00:27:11.400 I think the challenge will be is just trying to get you up to speed. 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:17.560 So certainly staff will be here to serve you, it will be, as long as we're providing the 00:27:17.560 --> 00:27:23.120 material and the content in such a way that you're able to digest it and you understand 00:27:23.120 --> 00:27:28.160 it and you agree or make recommendation for change, whatever that might be, that's what 00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:29.600 we'll carry forward. 00:27:29.600 --> 00:27:33.920 I do not anticipate that we would meet next week, just want to give you a little bit of 00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:36.400 time with the publications first. 00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:42.240 So I assume that that first meeting then would probably be the first week of May. 00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:44.080 May 6th? 00:27:44.080 --> 00:27:45.080 Yeah, anticipating. 00:27:45.080 --> 00:27:51.560 And what we have to do, the other piece that is critical for us is because we have a limited 00:27:51.560 --> 00:27:59.000 number of technical staff in DTV, we've got to coordinate with other city departments 00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:01.800 as to when it is that they're having meetings. 00:28:01.800 --> 00:28:07.560 So Selena will confirm that this meeting time does work for the city secretary's office 00:28:07.560 --> 00:28:08.560 in DTV. 00:28:08.560 --> 00:28:12.240 We can block this time out so it's televised. 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:13.240 Okay. 00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:20.000 Emma, we've been talking about this before, we may want to try to get, if you send everything 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:25.920 out it can be overwhelming and you're probably not ready throughout the entire code. 00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:31.780 Maybe we could get two or three sessions ahead and that would be all I would highly suggest 00:28:31.780 --> 00:28:34.940 we send out because it's overwhelming. 00:28:34.940 --> 00:28:37.160 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:43.260 No, read ahead if there's something regarding electrical code that you are able to reach 00:28:43.260 --> 00:28:49.800 out to an intelligent electrical contractor that could provide some input, how it is going 00:28:49.800 --> 00:28:54.640 to be applied in the field versus what we're reading in the code. 00:28:54.640 --> 00:29:00.520 Those are the kind of things I highly suggest you reach out and get input on because the 00:29:00.520 --> 00:29:05.600 public is going to need to know about it but the end user that is going to use this code 00:29:05.600 --> 00:29:09.340 are going to be your contractors and they're the ones that are probably going to have the 00:29:09.340 --> 00:29:14.640 most knowledge of how it's going to be implemented unless I'm wrong. 00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:21.120 Mr. Chair, you are spot on and ultimately really what we need to do and when I say overwhelming 00:29:21.120 --> 00:29:26.440 would be that we're going to provide you with all of these electronic books which really 00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:33.400 the pages number into the thousands, the building code is whatever the number is now 500, 600 00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:39.600 pages, the residential code is 500 or 600 pages, so on and so forth so ultimately somebody 00:29:39.600 --> 00:29:47.600 is going to end up with online access to thousands of pages of text which is code and so that 00:29:47.600 --> 00:29:49.280 can be overwhelming. 00:29:49.280 --> 00:29:55.640 To your point, we absolutely will probably just put you a week out or two weeks out with 00:29:55.640 --> 00:30:01.680 the material that we're providing so i.e. we'll probably bring the first code to you, 00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:05.280 we'll provide that information in advance, kind of an outline of what we're going to 00:30:05.280 --> 00:30:09.820 be talking about so you can be prepared and then really we will walk you through each 00:30:09.820 --> 00:30:15.720 of those items in the meeting whether it is for action the next meeting so then you can 00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:17.440 digest it. 00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:24.600 Your second point is absolutely critical, our reliance upon the development community 00:30:24.600 --> 00:30:31.260 to have the electrical contractors, the mechanical contractors, the plumbing contractors, all 00:30:31.260 --> 00:30:36.720 of those individuals be able to weigh in and we will be reaching out to those groups to 00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:40.920 make sure they're aware when we're talking about those particular items, those particular 00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:45.400 weeks and certainly wish to get their feedback so thank you for that. 00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:50.160 That's why we picked you as the chair brother because you're on top of all this. 00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:56.240 Oh yeah, yeah you're welcome, I'll be looking for y'all's thank you cards in the mail at 00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:59.240 any given time. 00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:04.400 I guess I speak, some of you haven't ever done this before, I've done it and I know 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:10.000 the staff has done it, just for a quick instance, some of the products or the requirements in 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:16.800 the code may be requiring something that at this point in time is not made. 00:31:16.800 --> 00:31:23.880 They're requiring a, for instance, a two before be made of some special species that does 00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:29.040 this or that in the future code, it may not be something that's feasible, it may not be 00:31:29.040 --> 00:31:35.120 something obtainable and that is where the city and each of you will come in critically 00:31:35.120 --> 00:31:40.800 and be able to rewrite some of the code or modify the code to make sure that if we're 00:31:40.800 --> 00:31:44.640 going to build to it, we also can get products for it. 00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:51.240 That's just a quick synopsis, I know it sounds silly but these codes are futuristic in what 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:54.360 they're doing, they're looking forward. 00:31:54.360 --> 00:31:58.680 Sometimes the products don't exist, is that a fair statement Scott? 00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:02.960 Absolutely, and I'll give you a really good example of that. 00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:11.200 In the fire code, I think it's been two code cycles ago, they required that buildings, 00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:16.720 high rise buildings would have to have repeaters for radios. 00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:22.440 So the fire department, it came really out of 9/11 that they had to have repeaters. 00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:28.360 So the code then would require building owners to install these radio repeaters into their 00:32:28.360 --> 00:32:33.520 facility so if a firefighter were to get into a stairwell that his radio would continue 00:32:33.520 --> 00:32:34.520 to work. 00:32:34.520 --> 00:32:40.200 Well, the code put that in, ultimately the city of Denton didn't have the technology 00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:46.160 so the new radio systems were not in place, they were in some communities. 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:50.360 So we really had to amend the code to peel that back out and say, well that retroactive 00:32:50.360 --> 00:32:55.180 provision we will not enforce because again, why would we have a building owner put something 00:32:55.180 --> 00:32:58.720 into a facility if we can't utilize that? 00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:06.380 And so that's a real world example of where that's at and to the chair's point, many times 00:33:06.380 --> 00:33:13.000 because this code is not going to be republished until 2024. 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:18.760 So this code has to think in terms of changes in technology, how it is that we're going 00:33:18.760 --> 00:33:24.120 to have advancements, whether it's a simple thing like a toilet, if the federal government 00:33:24.120 --> 00:33:31.020 is going to make changes to, you know, currently it's 1.6 gallons per flush, there were conversations 00:33:31.020 --> 00:33:35.600 occurring that it was going to be 1.2 gallons or a gallon per flush. 00:33:35.600 --> 00:33:39.960 So we just have to make sure that all of that is relative and that's what staff, you know, 00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:45.320 Emily and her team have been diligently scouring the code, looking at the significant changes 00:33:45.320 --> 00:33:52.360 and making sure all of those items are really relative to Denton and what we need to do. 00:33:52.360 --> 00:33:58.640 I will also tell you, my philosophy is that we make minimal amendments to the codes. 00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:06.000 The codes are vetted nationally, they have regional components for weathering and national 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.720 natural disasters that occur in areas. 00:34:08.720 --> 00:34:17.320 So they take in all of those considerations, i.e. size, snow loads, weather conditions. 00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:23.720 And so anytime that you make an amendment to the code, you may affect another code or 00:34:23.720 --> 00:34:25.160 another section of the code. 00:34:25.160 --> 00:34:29.200 So we really try to minimize those, which will make your job much easier. 00:34:29.200 --> 00:34:34.000 So you'll see those examples in our next meeting. 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:38.360 Hopefully as simple enough, we'll take any feedback that we need to get you what you 00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:39.360 need. 00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:40.360 But thank you, Mr. Chair. 00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:45.160 Most of the changes, and you're going to find that most of them is very minimal and we may 00:34:45.160 --> 00:34:50.920 skip right through three or four in a two-hour session and we may find ourselves with one 00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:55.020 section that takes an hour just to get through part of it. 00:34:55.020 --> 00:34:59.920 Some of them are more difficult than others, but I appreciate you speaking to that, Scott, 00:34:59.920 --> 00:35:04.080 because you guys usually do look at things pretty practical. 00:35:04.080 --> 00:35:08.540 So it sounds like we don't have a problem from everybody. 00:35:08.540 --> 00:35:14.480 Looks like we're going to do it not this coming week, but the following as long as you can. 00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:21.440 I guess Amber, I'm not sure if that's your job, but make sure that the DTV can host this 00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:23.320 product or this project. 00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:26.920 Is that what we're going to check on? 00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:27.920 It'll be Selena. 00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:28.920 Absolutely. 00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:29.920 I apologize. 00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:30.920 Okay, Selena. 00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:32.960 We'll let you know, though. 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:35.040 We'll keep in constant communication. 00:35:35.040 --> 00:35:37.680 We'll send you some materials. 00:35:37.680 --> 00:35:43.360 We'll make it truly as simple as we can, and I encourage any of you that would like any 00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:47.560 assistance once you do start receiving materials, don't hesitate to call us. 00:35:47.560 --> 00:35:48.960 Oh, it's exciting reading. 00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:50.760 I'm looking forward to it. 00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:51.760 Yeah. 00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:57.560 With that said, is there any other meeting minutes that I'm needing to address? 00:35:57.560 --> 00:36:02.440 I don't see anything unless I'm- You have item number two, which is concluding 00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:03.440 items. 00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:07.400 So if you wish to have, if any of the members would like to have any- 00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:08.400 Yeah, you know what? 00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:28.000 There's things my co-chair needs to read item number two. 00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:29.000 He's muted. 00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:30.000 He just finished it. 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:31.000 He did a good job, though. 00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:32.520 You know, I heard it too. 00:36:32.520 --> 00:36:33.520 That's amazing. 00:36:33.520 --> 00:36:34.520 That's a good trick. 00:36:34.520 --> 00:36:35.520 I'll start using that. 00:36:35.520 --> 00:36:36.520 Okay. 00:36:36.520 --> 00:36:40.520 I guess my space bar has decided not to work. 00:36:40.520 --> 00:36:47.680 Concluding items under section 551.042 of the Texas Open Meetings Act, respond to inquiries 00:36:47.680 --> 00:36:53.040 from the Health and Building Standards Commission for the public and specific factual information 00:36:53.040 --> 00:37:00.440 or recitation of policy or accept a proposal in place of matter- 00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:01.440 I'm not laughing at you. 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:02.440 I'm laughing at Scott. 00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:05.080 I am shaking my head. 00:37:05.080 --> 00:37:06.080 That's all. 00:37:06.080 --> 00:37:08.120 I'm shaking my head. 00:37:08.120 --> 00:37:23.680 Mr. Car, he is still reading, but he is muted, and I hate you putting that through him. 00:37:23.680 --> 00:37:24.680 Yeah. 00:37:24.680 --> 00:37:25.680 I know. 00:37:25.680 --> 00:37:27.240 I appreciate the suggestion. 00:37:27.240 --> 00:37:30.640 So I believe that concludes- 00:37:30.640 --> 00:37:37.520 Yes, sir, just if anybody had anything else, that was an opportunity. 00:37:37.520 --> 00:37:41.880 Anybody have anything else for the current agenda item or future agenda items that we 00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:46.120 need to bring up and put on the next agenda? 00:37:46.120 --> 00:37:52.360 Well, before we conclude the meeting, I want to say I appreciate each of you for volunteering 00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:56.960 your time, your efforts, those of you that have just joined, looking forward to working 00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:57.960 with you. 00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:04.200 If you're able to meet in person one day, the Encyclopedia Britannica will be sent out 00:38:04.200 --> 00:38:12.160 to you pretty soon to read, and there are very few pictures in it, so good luck. 00:38:12.160 --> 00:38:17.640 And if there's nothing else, I need a motion to approve to adjourn this meeting. 00:38:17.640 --> 00:38:27.680 Is that correct, Scott, or am I missing something? 00:38:27.680 --> 00:38:29.440 You can ask for a motion to adjourn. 00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:30.440 Yep. 00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:32.640 I need a motion to adjourn the meeting. 00:38:32.640 --> 00:38:35.000 I move to adjourn the meeting. 00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:38.760 Mike, that's a wonderful suggestion. 00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:39.760 All those in favor? 00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:40.760 Aye. 00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:41.760 Aye. 00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:45.060 Those opposed? 00:38:45.060 --> 00:38:47.120 I wish everybody a wonderful- 00:38:47.120 --> 00:38:48.960 Who seconded that? 00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:50.600 I said, do we need a second? 00:38:50.600 --> 00:38:51.600 Tori seconded. 00:38:51.600 --> 00:38:52.600 I heard her. 00:38:52.600 --> 00:38:53.600 Uh-huh. 00:38:53.600 --> 00:38:54.600 I did. 00:38:54.600 --> 00:38:55.600 Okay. 00:38:55.600 --> 00:38:56.600 Okay. 00:38:56.600 --> 00:38:57.600 I like Tori. 00:38:57.600 --> 00:38:58.600 Okay. 00:38:58.600 --> 00:38:59.600 I'll take a second to respond. 00:38:59.600 --> 00:39:04.160 Mr. Chair, you've concluded the meeting at 3 43. 00:39:04.160 --> 00:39:05.000 Thank you, everybody.