Apr 12, 2021 Parks, Recreation and Beautification Board on 2021-04-12 3:00 PM

I'll hand it over to Mr. Presley-Taylor to give us a little bit more detail. >> Hi, good afternoon everyone and welcome to our monthly parks and recreation and beautification board meeting. It's 3.04 p.m. Our chair, Ms. Presley-Taylor will be joining us later during the meeting. We are scheduled to go until 5 p.m. First order of business is to mention that the meeting will start at 5 p.m. We'll get started on the orders of business. I'm going to ask if we had any comments of someone on the phone. Do we have any phone comments waiting? Okay. Hearing none. We'll get started on the orders of business. So our first order of business is to approve the minutes from the March 8th meeting. So I will need a motion unless someone has any questions or feedback they wanted to give. So we'll get started on the orders of business. We'll get started on the orders of business. So we'll get started on the orders of business. So we'll get started on the orders of business. 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These are just images in the next two slides of what these elements could be. Again, some images that we showed the public, and they were able to vote on these. We sent them a survey, and you'll see that in the report that shows what they can vote on and what these elements could be. Next slide. Same thing with some of the elements, and we were able to give them an opportunity to go through each concept of what side elements and give them an opportunity to be involved in choosing and selecting what some of these elements can potentially be for each concept. This is option two. This is a bit more elaborate. This is a radial concept here where you've got a larger 40 by 40 covered pavilion there in the center, and we've added now a nut tree orchard on the bottom left as opposed to then also the fruit tree stand on the right. We've got labeled four as the existing playground equipment that we definitely wanted to preserve there. Again, the loop trail all the way around the park, and they were really happy with making sure that this loop trail is incorporated. We added some additional shade trees all along the trail there. Again, the same concept of having the proposed trail going to the east side. Proposed parking with this one being an angled parking, but again, in the community garden here, a different layout there, but we've got an ADA all the way around the edge there, so having more ADA accessibility, more trails, more access, and benches. Again, these are some representative images of what these elements could be. Then option three, this last one is quite a bit more elaborate, but they really gravitated to this really long loop that we've created here. This is a bit different from the other two. We extended the loop trail all the way north as far as we can. It really took advantage of the park real estate here on that north end, added some trees as well on that north end. Again, on the south, taking advantage of the real estate on the south and expanded the garden so that we can use up as much as we can with the space, using up a lot of that real estate too for ADA accessibility for gardens there. Taking along that same line, some of that tree, the fruit trees, having that more on the east side away from the playground and the pavilion there. That pavilion is quite a bit larger too. That pavilion is more of that canvas covering that comes in different colors. They really like that one. Same thing with the parking. You've got quite a bit more parking. Square footage there with head and parking, but yeah, all of that, everything here in this concept is quite a bit more extravagant and a lot larger as far as square footage. Again, this is some representative images to accommodate this concept. So from -- go to the next slide. We really took -- from what we showed them, they were really good about giving us their feedback. I'm not sure if you were able to look at the report summary. We've got about 25 responses. Oh, this is the last one. This one, they didn't really like this one from the response. This is a labyrinth that we had added at the very end here. This is a more meditative piece that we added at the end. And again, the process of our getting to our final plan. And we gave them the feedback of all these concepts. And from the -- and from what we gathered, they really liked one and two from the conversations live. They really liked two and then really liked having the long loop all the way around and they talked through having a crossing and I think the parts can talk through some of this. They were talking about crossing at Windsor. Mainly they talked about Dianite, I believe. Wasn't that right, Barry? They talked a lot about the path route. >> Yes, that was true to see if we could do a mid-block crossing at Windsor to cross over into North Lakes and also have a trail connection on the south side of Windsor to be able to connect to the new fireside community and to the North Lakes recreation center. >> Right. So we made sure to let them know that these are not final concepts that we were willing to take pieces and parts of each concept to make one big one, one cohesive park so that they felt that they had an ownership in the design of the concept but making sure, too, that the city had final decisions and that you guys had decision making in it as well. >> We also made an effort to -- concept one was the least expensive, concept two was kind of a mid-range concept as far as cost goes, and concept three was the most expensive. And so I thought Bounded interesting, you know, most people tend to gravitate the most -- toward the most expensive ones, and they didn't here. They really -- >> Right. >> -- lean towards the ones that were a little less expensive but that had some distinct features like the long trail loop. >> Right. They liked making sure that -- they really liked the fact that you guys were wanting to focus on the ADA concerns. They wanted to be sure that you kept it green, but making sure that trail was still a priority. They wanted to be sure that that was still a priority. I know there was some concern about having some trail and concrete there, but I think that was still in the comments made sure that that was still part of the concept. So if you look through some of the summary, a lot of it, they were really -- overall, they were really happy that they were part of the process and that they were given the opportunity to be involved in it. So not sure where we want to go as far as selecting a concept here, but I -- I mean, clearly, 40%, 40% to 36% are leaning towards one and two with making sure that we have that longer trail all -- going all the way north, and then we can go through the elements and picking those out as we go through the final stages. >> So Park Board, Gary Pack, and Director of Parks and Recreation, one of the main reason we're working on this project as well as Villages of Carmel is because we wanted to make some improvements in those parks. Obviously, Villages of Carmel is a new acquisition. We just purchased it about two years ago. We're looking to get some projects that are shovel-ready that we can go out and apply for Texas Parks and Recreation grants. We did have funding in both of these locations from our 915/916, our Parkland Dedication Development Fund. So that was another consideration of looking at these parcels. Bowling Green had an opportunity to add some more trails, put a loop trail in for people to a little bit more enjoy that space, as well as we knew that we needed to make some improvements to the garden area because it was not ADA accessible. And there had been discussion in the past about extending that park trail up and connecting it to North Lakes Park so you could go east and west in that property as well. So those are the two reasons why we picked those parcels. We could do the same process in just about every one of our parks, but we wanted to get these ready so we could go after some grant applications and get some projects kind of in the queue, per se. So we had them ready to go once grant opportunities developed. So that's the reason why we started this. We had a public meeting, like we said last week, and we can share with that recording to you as soon as it's posted. But we wanted to get some feedback from the park board as well so we could go back with the consultants and identify what pieces and parts everybody likes the best and try to take something from each one of those and build a recommendation that we could come back to you, figure out what it's going to cost, and then eventually get approval and go to city council and then start on construction drawings. So with that, I'll open up the-- George, open up to the floor for feedback and comments. >> Yeah, absolutely. I see that our chair is in the meeting now, so we are on the second item for consideration. Hi. Welcome for talking about Bowling Green. They just gave the presentation and now we're going to open it up to questions, and I'll give this back over to you, Madam Chair. >> Thanks, George. Can I request that we just start when this is over, and I will start with Zeke. >> Got you. Okay, so I actually do have a question that I wanted to ask. So I--'cause I looked at the presentation and read the backup earlier, I was wondering, A, I'm really glad to hear that there's so much, like, want from the community and options that were given. I think that's a really cool, innovative idea that I'd like to see, like, moving forward on all, I guess, decisions for parks, 'cause I think the more people in the creation of it, the more they're going to want to go to it, right? You know, whether it's choosing the style of trash cans or benches to, like, an actual entire feature, I think that's a really--it gives equity to-- and power to the people to feel like they were a part of that creation, and I think that's a really cool idea. So, A, thank you for that really innovative plan. And, two, my question is, so you said about 40% of the people wanted either option one or two with the longer path from option three. I guess, as far as budget is--as far as numbers have been crunched, what did those options look like? Did I miss that somewhere in the presentation? >> We didn't--we deliberately didn't present costs. >> Okay. >> And the reason being that we just wanted it for now. We don't want that to--none of these are extravagantly expensive, and the really different is just the finish of the materials, okay? And I do know that they range from, you know, 700,000 to about 1.6 million, depending on what was chosen as far as details and finishes. So, the layouts, though, each one of the layouts could be built economically with just without high-end expensive finishes, I guess is the best way to put it. >> Yeah, understood. Okay. That's--thank you for that answer. And then I guess my thing is, my other question, my follow-up question is, the difference between the pavilion size in option one and option two, I guess--I know everything's hypothetical and projected, but are they--they're pretty stark, is that correct? >> Well, the-- >> I think the first one, it was about 20 by 40, and the other one was 40 by 40. So, not too significantly different. I think it's just a matter of, you know, the form that you want to take. >> Yeah, one's a single ridge, and the second one is a double ridge. Okay, so that's the difference. One's a little more architecturally detailed than the other. >> Got it. I was just thinking, like, that covered meeting space, how large it would be, the more people that could be in that gathering area. >> Right. >> Because I really like that idea, and I like that it's kind of central to where the planting beds are and, like, all the play areas and the trees. I think that's really smart. And I agree that I like the path from the third option as well. I think the longer that path, the more, you know, people are going to love to run it or, you know, be a part of it, be on it. And with that, I will yield to anybody else that has questions or comments. Thank you. >> Okay, well, I have a question. You talked about meeting with the community. Are there additional meetings for the community? >> As at -- as of right now, we wouldn't schedule another meeting for general feedback. We would take your information, put that together, and then we could either open it up and get feedback from the community as a whole and then take it to City Council to bring it back to you for another open comment and then back to City Council for another open comment. But we would try to take as much as we can from that public meeting and our needs assessment, all the information that we have, integrate that into the plan and then bring it back to you for consideration and then back and then to City Council for approval. >> Okay. Thank you. And so when you come back to us, that is when we will have an opportunity to see the cost? >> Yes. >> That next phase is once we get the general program elements where you say, oh, yeah, we kind of like this lab, we kind of like this pavilion, we kind of like this, then we'll refine that and then give you a line item cost estimate that will tell you exactly -- well, not exactly, but close enough to where we think it should be. >> And also to help answer that question, the cost today could be different tomorrow. We've seen a really big swing in construction costs lately. And we don't have the full funding to do even the cheapest option at the moment because we would need to get everything packaged together, have construction documents, and then go after those grants. And typically, if something bad was to happen and we were to go into recession, we saw all those costs tremendously go down in the 2008, 2010 time period. Really, that's the time to build for us, so, you know, we would secure the money and then build when the time was good. Right now, it's probably not this -- you know, it wouldn't be the -- we wouldn't get the best bang for our buck at the moment, so. >> Okay. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> Yes. >> I've got a question regarding the trash cans. I know this seems like a strange question, but I know a number of them don't have closed trash cans. Was there a reason behind that? Like, where you push it open and you put the trash in? >> No, we just provided a whole bunch of different options just to see how people like it. Some have lid tops, some are open. Right now, I believe there are 55-gallon drums with a post, so the ones that are there now are open. >> Yeah. >> We did provide some with cap options as well. >> Awesome. Thank you. >> Mr. Dooley, did you have something? You're on mute, sir. >> Mr. Dooley, you're muted. >> You're on mute. >> Sorry, guys. >> There you go. You're good. I mean, I may be behind and not understanding, but when you're talking about community gardens, what's the thought behind that? I mean, just what does that mean? >> It's typically where people who don't have a big enough yard to have a garden spot in the neighborhood, they can rent or secure a 10 by 10 or a 10 by 20 garden plot where they can go out and grow their whatever garden or cut flowers or anything that they would like. And it is open to the public there. >> That's exactly what I was hoping you would say, Wade. Thanks. And two, even if we have to go to a more budget-friendly option now, there's options for expansion later, right? >> Absolutely. >> Down the road, we can like expand and lengthen the trail or -- I mean, you know what I'm saying there, right? >> Yes, sir. This could be done in basis. >> Okay. Excellent. Thank you. >> Awesome. Mr. Schuck? >> Just to provide a little bit of context to Jerry and his question, that is not new functionality for this park. For several years, at least four or five years, there have been community gardens at this park already, so that is -- >> Oh, okay. All right. I need to go look at that park that I haven't seen that for several years. I need to take a drive. Thank you. >> And really the idea with the park is to make it accessible to all of the residents that live around it. And number two was to dress up this park for the residents that we have that live around it. There are some individuals that rent those plots that take care of their plots very well, and some not as well. So if it was to have, you know, the borders, you know, the granite trail, raised beds, ADA accessibility, all those things that would really enhance those features that it has right now. I'd like to throw in one more comment, if I could. >> Yeah, go ahead, Mr. Scheich. >> You know, as somebody who lives in that neighborhood, there is a sidewalk that runs down Bowling Green, and people walk past the park, but there is no concept of walking through that park right now. It's just kind of over off to the side, and I think having that loop trail is a very understated huge addition to that park and actually to bring people into it. I've walked by it 100 times, and I've never thought to go into it, because there's no reason for me to be over there, but having a trail to walk through I think would be a big addition, so. >> Mr. Emmerich. >> Yes, thank you. The -- I guess two questions. One -- well, one suggestion I have, and then a question. Suggestion is that there -- I didn't see one, but if there's a bench along in that loop trail, that really helps old people like me when you're tired. >> There is, by the way. >> There is, we do. >> Oh, there is? Okay, perfect, because, yeah. In fact, I was going to suggest we do those like every -- if we have trails, maybe minimally, once they're a half mile, maybe one quarter mile, I don't know, but they're great, especially when you're trying to wobble around at, you know, an older age. Second, what -- are we doing standard metal benches here, Gary, do you know? >> We have two different types of benches. We have the benches that are at Quaker Town, a little bit more ornamental, and then we have a general bench that's -- what's the name of it, Drew? >> Web coat. >> Web coat. It's green, it's got like a rubber coating, almost looks like a playground structure. We have those in our parks as well, so we would have to pick which one we wanted to go with at what level or what tier of bench we want to go with, right? Because I saw pictures there, they had pictures of wood ones. >> Generally not. 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And then, of course, developing and connecting up those trail connections that are -- and walking areas that are so important. This is an analysis graphic that we prepared to, again, just understand the context a little bit more. This newly acquired parcel, they're nestled in really a fairly residential area. We did show that 10-minute walking radius as well, to some of the surrounding areas. You've got a little bit of some apartments up in the northwest. You've got a lot of single family pretty much everywhere else. We started out, before we got into too much detail, we started out with a diagram, and part of the reason that was important, as you can see, it's so many existing trees, so we actually got out and walked to the site, figured out where between the trees and the topography would really be sort of the ideal route for walking so that we won't have to remove hopefully even one single existing tree. And you'll see that we have three options, sort of a 1A and a 1B, and then an option two. The paths really are very similar between them. >> Mr. Black, I'm sorry to interrupt you. Is there any way to make the screen bigger? I can barely see what's on the screen. >> Yeah. I don't -- I'm not controlling the screen. I don't know if you can see it. >> You can actually do it under view options on your screen. I just blew it up on mine. If you go up to the top and do view options and do zoom ratio, you can change what he sees, what he's showing. >> Sounds good. >> I can zoom in, but it's going to cut half of it off. >> Yeah. >> You can move it around at that point, but that's the -- anyway, just sharing. >> Yeah. >> So, yeah, as far as the diagram is concerned, and sort of this option, this alternative, takes advantage of the existing barn. There's a barn out there. It's one of the few things existing out there that's man-made, and we'll kind of get into some detail on that. So it's kind of more of a centrally clustered concept here. And one thing that we anticipate may or may not happen, but, you know, the public -- the neighborhood, especially the villages of Cremel, are sensitive to increased vehicular traffic in their neighborhood, and so we anticipate there may be a need for this park to have its own parking lot. Not -- maybe not normally something always a part of the neighborhood park, but it may be needed in this case. I'll turn the time over to Michelle to go through in a little more detail the concept design. >> Yeah. So this diagram -- this more fleshed-out concept of the diagram that Jeremy was just talking over, and I won't go into too much detail on this, but a few things worth noting is that extension to that future possible right away, and you'll see that we have kind of like a ghost-in there, and we're hoping to connect that into the park, so you have that access there as well. And then you'll also see scattered throughout the park these wildflower area pockets, and this is just really bringing some vibrancy into the park, and then also just really encompass this idea of being in nature when you're walking throughout the park. And then as Jeremy mentioned, that this concept, concept one, kind of has a more centralized focus for the playground using that existing barn area, and so we'll go into a little more detail about some two different options for how to repurpose that existing barn, but as you'll see in the next slide, most of the forms of the playground and these pathways, they're really dictated by this existing canopy coverage that we want to try not to impact at all because it's beautiful post-oak, and that's like our native trees here, and so you'll see from this is that, you know, that playground, it's going to be fully shaded. You don't have to really worry about kids getting burned on playground equipment or getting overheated in the hot Texas sun, and then on this diagram you'll also see that those wildflower pocket areas are placed within areas where there isn't as much tree canopy coverage, so it will allow those flowers to grow and the sunshine to come in in those areas. So moving on to the next one, and so this is looking more at the playground area, and so this would be one option of how we could treat that, and so with this you'll see some different images of playground equipment and we're really thinking more of like a modern, a musical element type of play equipment for this particular option to kind of bring in that musicality of Denton and then also the musicalness of being in the wilderness and the forest, and also with this option some of the treatments within the barn will reflect that more being one in the forest and the wilderness and the paving pattern. On this option it'll be kind of an enhanced paving that shows like you're in the treetops of the forest. Well, and then this option would have more of a linear approach to the playground, to the pavilion, rather than the previous option which if we wanted to go back to the previous slide. But if not, yeah, so in here the barn would be treated with these two types of elevations going. So you would come into the barn and there would be an upper deck that would ramp down or step down into a more park pavilion area where you could sit and have picnics in the covered shade of the barn. And then also something really neat that we're proposing is, as you saw in that very first image on that first slide of the barn, it does have sides, but we're thinking of cutting away the side to create this little window where we could put some bench seating and that way if kids are remote learning still have access to their laptops and be in the park as they do homework, or the parents could be working at the park as their children play on the play equipment and they'd still have those sight lines into the different playgrounds. And then also something on this playground, you will see that it's very much the form is dictated by those tree canopy trees to like minimize the amount of impact we have on the property. So we really want to utilize the topography of this playground because it does have a pretty steep slope throughout this whole property and those boulders are already existing on the property. So we really want to utilize that natural element in this. And so on this option, option two, again, the only real difference here is the treatment of the barn with a more standard linear approach into the property. And then we have a bench seating at the window cut out and then have a more open picnic area on this option. And so I pass the mic back over to Jeremy for this. >> So as you've heard us mention this existing barn and we've just shown a few images here of some potential treatments, how that can be done or how it has been done in the past. You know, it's not necessarily that this is a historically significant barn, but it's just that it is already in one of the larger open areas. And so just to minimize the amount of construction and trucks and heavy equipment that are having to go through there and just, you know, generally the idea of recycling or repurposing something that is in relatively decent shape. We did have a structural engineer take a look and say that, you know, this can continue to be used. So you've got just some quick images here that we did, some quick renderings of, you know, some potential treatments to the barn. Again, as Michelle mentioned, cutting away those windows, maybe adding a little bit of wood accents, creating a shed roof off to one side so there is some more open air pavilion type seating. And then onto the next slide, you can see just a view into it from the other side. Just, it's a pretty basic barn, but, you know, large open area, plenty, you know, it's plenty big, I think, for anything that might happen out there as far as seating and dining. What you'll see there is the knee brace, it's called. That was really the only recommendation that the structural engineer gave as far as shoring this thing up a little bit more. Alternative two, then, is an alternative that takes away the existing barn in the event that it was not a desired thing to do, and something new was desired. And so that, it does have a new pavilion, however, which moves over a little closer to that neighborhood connection over to Villages of Carmel, and the potential new sidewalk there along Postoke. Then, because of the large area left over by the existing barn, we would then just kind of shift over and use that for a relatively large playground. And if you want to jump to the next slide, Michelle can talk in a little bit more detail about that, or the next slide. Michelle, would you like to jump to the next slide? Two slides away. >> Yeah. So this is a closer look at that new playground area for this option, and so what you will see is that because we're not using that existing barn, that does give us a larger area to have a larger playground for this option without impacting the trees, and so we'll actually be able to get, like, a separation area for a five-year-old and a school-aged playground while still maintaining accessibility and sight lines for supervisors who are out there watching children, and then we would have a more prefabricated pavilion on this option within an enhanced paved picnic area, so you could either be in the shade and relax or be out in more of a sunshine, although it is still very heavily shaded with the trees and be out there, and then also there's a secondary play option on this one where it would be utilizing those boulders, again, like a climbing playground equipment, so children could climb on them, you know, have fun with it, and that way they could use their imagination, and then also with that, if you see up on the north to the playground, this amphitheater, we're kind of proposing this, again, if you have your children are doing school from home, they could do their playtime, give stories, you could read a book out there to your children just to have an outdoor classroom, you know, the space is really flexible to do all that, and then with this option, we're also proposing some more nature type of play equipment to bring in the element of nature play and just really, again, just bring in this idea of you're in the forest, you're in the woods, and you just get to bring that in. >> And, of course, with the sort of prefabricated pavilion, that is a part of this option, and there's plenty of, you know, options out there for this. I'm sure you've all seen plenty, you know, you have your more standard ones, but there are some also kind of fun and funky ones that can be incorporated as well, you know, as the budget dictates, of course, but one thing I will note is that most likely any new prefabricated pavilion that occurred out here would probably be smaller than that existing barn, and so that's one of the things, again, why we really looked at that closely as an option, just because there's already a large existing structure out there. So that concludes the discussion on the concept design. Just a quick, I guess, note about, you know, our meeting on Thursday, and I think that the parks staff will agree that there was a lot of good feedback, mostly positive. We didn't really hear anything negative or that, you know, we weren't really focusing on the right things. I don't know if Gary or Chris, you guys want to speak to that at all. >> Yeah, I mean, as mentioned, Jeremy touched on, we did receive good feedback. There were some concerns that we addressed regarding trees, are any trees going to be taken down? The answer is no. They're not the way that they proposed at this time. They're trying to keep everything around and build around it. As far as feedback as stated at the beginning, we are working on a survey to gather those results, and we will also get that survey out to the public, to the people that did attend, as well as the community around there. We do have the local HOAs that we connected with that they will be able to send that out via email and hopefully we could get more responses there, and we will also get that survey out to you guys as well. >> One quick other note. One concern, and I think a common concern that we have is that when you're designing a space like this that is heavily wooded is safety, and so we have been prepared to look at that. Drew, that's one of Drew's bullet points that he is good about reminding us, is, you know, designing safety into it through environmental means. You know, it may mean limbing up some of the trees, but we did try to provide open view corridors. You know, the pavilions won't -- while the existing barn has solid walls, we would try to open that up as much as possible, and then, of course, lighting would be a factor here as well, just to make sure that whether it's parents or security or police presence can at least come around the perimeter, drive by, what have you, and be able to build a safe space outside. That is something that will continue to be incorporated. >> All right. Does anyone have any questions? Miss Punch? >> Okay. Thank you for addressing my first question, which was safety. And the second one, you said that you -- did I hear correctly you do not know which model the community is leaning toward? >> No. They -- in the -- in the meeting, there really was no expressed opinion, I would say, about one versus the other, and we have yet -- our survey goes out a little bit later this week, and then we'll be able to hear back. >> Okay. Thank you so much. >> Does that -- does that sound correct, Drew and Chris? >> Yes, that's correct. I think they liked everything, so that survey will really be able to tell, you know, which option they liked and then maybe which blend they liked to come up with the final option. >> Thank you. Mr. Schiff? >> Yeah, I had a question about the topography. Looking at some of those slides, the topography had terrain lines. I noticed a number of terrain lines, but I didn't have a scale for what -- how many vertical feet is represented in each terrain line. What is the difference between low and high on that land? >> Jeremy, can you say off-hand? I think it's -- >> Are you -- would you like to know the overall grade change from top to bottom? >> Either way. I mean, I can figure that out. How much does one of those topography lines equal? >> Yeah, these are one-foot contours. >> Okay. I was thinking those were -- okay, I was picturing five feet or something. I thought we were climbing pretty rapidly. >> No, I mean, it is steep. It's -- >> 25, 30 feet? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Your high point there, kind of right in the middle left and then down, yeah, about 30 feet. >> I'm used to my backpacking maps. If you walk pretty much where he depicts where the trail is, if you walk it, it's a really nice gradual slope down, kind of evens out and then comes back up, and really it will all be designed with all the ADA compliance features. >> Okay. We had another park that was brought to us that had a little more extreme terrain, and I was wondering if we were getting another one like that. >> Any other questions? Mr. Emrick? >> Thank you. Appreciate that. I -- actually, my wife and I used to live down this neighborhood, and was worried when villages are caramel, and was actually in the HOA that we worked to get that swimming pool we got down there. So the history maker, I guess, was the builder. So when I found about this, I contacted the HOA there and let them know, and they said they were going to be meeting that you were going to have. So I was very positive that you were having it. Anyway, I had some questions. First question is, there is Pecan Elementary is just to the south and east of this, if I'm not correct. I don't know if I'm correct. >> That sounds right. >> Yeah. And how far is that from, say, the proposed playground that you're putting up here on your plan? >> I believe it's within the 10-minute walk. >> Within 10-minute walk? >> Within a half mile, yes. >> Okay. So one of the questions I have is, have we considered doing a joint usage with the existing playground they have there, Pecan Creek Elementary? >> Maybe it's just right outside the 10-minute walk. We haven't contacted them just due to the connectability of this park and the elementary school. If you have ever driven in this area, I know you did living in this area, Swisher Road is very narrow. Right now, the mobility plan shows for the main thoroughfare to go right next to the park. We did ask capital projects and engineering if it really was going to go there, and really they're in the middle of their updated master plan, they couldn't tell us a definite yes or no, just that it is on the mobility plan at this time. It could go there or it could move. We just couldn't get a definite answer. That was one of the major questions that we got last Thursday night, is Posto going to be built behind my homes? I wish we could answer that question, and I don't even believe our mobility staff can answer that question at this time. >> Okay. Just the thought, I like to obviously utilize existing resources for the kids, but also if you do a linear trail thing through there from the snow tree. >> We would like to do a linear trail in the future Posto driveway because the city already owns that. Maybe just do a soft surface trail for now. People were really already using it because it's open property that the city owns. People are already using it, so we can do a soft surface trail now where we put a minimal amount of money into that trail if it does get taken out in the future. >> Right. In my mind, if it was possible to get a, number one, get access to this park property from the elementary school, you know, safe access, and they have very -- obviously it's an elementary school, so they have playground for younger kids, and then maybe just kind of utilize, you know, maybe look for older, you know, toy areas or -- I'm trying to say playground areas that appeal to older age groups like middle class kids, you know, middle school kids, that sort of thing, maybe even older teenage -- or older kids, pre-high school, because by the time they go to high school, they're not going to be at the playground, trust me. I had eight kids, so, you know, speaking from experience. So that was one, and you did answer my one question on ADA for the barn. I assume that's going to be in there, too. >> Yes. >> And one of the things I would suggest to barn is, you know, they did a barn down in green town, and now it's a big dancing hall, and it brings in a lot of people, and that was just an idea of maybe taking a look at that from a -- you know, they do it -- they have big dances there, you know, down in the fire mound, but maybe that would be kind of a cool place here for dancing, besides, you know, the senior retirement, I'm talking about the young people, you know, in the senior retirement places, but to give options for dancing for younger folks. Just a thought. >> A little footloose. >> Well, yeah, there you go. Yeah, do the footloose part. I can see it now. Thank you. >> Mr. Ferry, I believe you had a question. >> Yes, thank you. So I know you said you're going to send out that survey to get feedback from the community, and I know that you're asking for our feedback. I would just like to put it out there that I kind of really enjoy the first option in the sense of like repurposing what's already existing, right, instead of having to take something down and then create something new, which would also increase the budget. >> That was the biggest reason why we wanted that structural engineer to look at the barn. We wanted to make it kind of a park. How fun to just have that continue to be a part of its own story and let that be something that becomes an element that also that Ms. Davis had said, you know, there will be options to sit in an open window aspect with that second tier, all of its ADA. We're talking about ramps. So it's inclusive. It also kind of harkens to its own roots, right? And I think that it also gave that element of play that Ms. Davis agreed with is like the rocks, the natural elements that kids can play on. You know, you mentioned that in both options, and I think that there's -- that's a really cool highlight. And then also bringing in that whole music to modern elements that I think would be fun in both play elements. There's still a lot of play area and tons of shade. You know, it's kind of like a really cool win-win for how much already exists in a park that I have and, you know, try and come in under budget or, you know, have less of an expense. And I think that it could be incredible. And I really appreciated this presentation and how prepared it was and how I think the first option would be a really cool way of incorporating, like I said, what exists and also keeping us in a framework of buying instead of money. >> One thing that we noticed after we're talking through this is we're talking about integrating musical elements into the park, you know, kind of focus on Denton's roots. But if you look at this, this also looks like a guitar or a violin here upside down. >> I was going to ask if that was done on purpose. >> I swear I thought the same thing. >> Because I immediately saw it. Yeah. >> It wasn't. That was the -- you know, that was sort of the opening left to us in the tree canopy. And so -- >> Yeah, I just love all the elements just kind of already being there. Right? Like literally. Like that bones of a structure. I'm glad that you guys got an engineer and that they can be easily made safe and that safety is also being continually spoken about. I think that's a really great option and will help with cost. My opinion. >> And the way the rendering shows right now, the property was completely surveyed. I know you saw the topo on there. And then also all the trees were so surveyed. So when ValleyQuest went in and did really the initial design, they could make sure that every -- you know, the trail could weave in and out of all the existing trees. >> Can I jump in behind George? Yeah. While that barn may not be historically significant in a -- technically speaking, it kind of sort of is. I mean, I think it's a great thing to incorporate what's already there and keep the history and the culture there. I think it's a very cool thing if you can keep that and utilize that barn. I think that's great. >> Yeah, I think it is. Yeah. And, you know, it's maybe only 10 -- I think it was only 10 or 15 years old, which is part of the reason why we can keep it, which, you know, frankly is good. But you're right. It's more of a cultural piece than a historical piece, if you will. >> Yes, absolutely. Yes. And the boulders, just to add, were -- I think they were brought over from the neighboring property when the homes were built. And that's the boulder garden for Alana. >> There are some really big, cool boulders out there. I mean, some are, you know, six feet in diameter. >> The developer donated lots of big boulders. >> Donated. >> Donated, right? >> Yeah. >> Which, you know, in the construction room when they're digging foundations, they have to remove those and they have to get those out. And I'm sure at the time, they owned -- the developer owned that property. And so that was just a good space to put them and store them. And, you know, when we walked the property right after we purchased them, you know, I called Gary and said, hey, we got about $8,000 worth of boulders that someone gave to us. So it was a good find for once. So. >> Does anyone else have any questions? I know Brooke had a question, but she may have left for a moment. Hi. >> No, I was just going to ask about potential to merge both of the ideas because I love the natural playground, but I also kind of -- I like the barn staying too, so I just wondered if that was even a possibility. >> Yes, and that's what the survey would be good for, for us to be able to show these different options and then for, you know, for the public to be able to tell us what do you like, what do you not like, what would you like to see. It's really just -- it's almost like shopping, you know, for a home or a car or, you know, something expensive, which a park is expensive, to where you get to really, okay, which, you know, feature do I like the most? Which oven do I want? Which countertop do I want? What kind of floors do I want? What color do I want? You know, all those good things and that's, you know, that's what we've really tried to do with all these public meetings with that, so. >> You guys are doing great. Thank you. >> I have a couple of questions. First of all, I was just wondering what the barn's story is. Was it, like, a farm? Do we know who lived there? Do we have any other artifacts? >> We can look back and find out, like, who lived there. Like Jeremy said, the barn isn't very old. It's really -- if it dated back, it would probably be only about 15 years old. You can really tell by the condition that the wood is in and really the grade of the metal to be able to tell how old it is. We did last year, right before the pandemic, remove the foundation and what was left of an older home that was there. It was really small. I wouldn't think it was more than, I don't know, Gary, you think 6 to 800 square feet. And the only thing left was some old brick piers, like cinder block piers, and a foundation that was made out of plywood, like 2 by 6s. So there just wasn't much left there. But it wasn't -- the foundation wasn't terribly old. It may have dated 20 years ago. So -- but it was -- you could tell it was just like a horse or, you know, livestock barn. >> The reason I bring that up is if we know a little bit of the story and move forward with the barn, I think it would be really cool to have a plaque or some kind of informational educational thing to just talk about in the future that will go by really fast, as we all know. Time flies. Just an idea. >> Great idea. Thank you. >> Is my internet working? I'm getting a thing saying I'm unstable. >> You froze just for a second, but you came back. >> Okay. And my last question is do you know what type of rock those boulders are? Just curious. >> Sandstone. >> Okay. Does anyone else have any questions regarding this discussion? Okay. Well, we should move to the next item, which is consider recommending approval of an ordinance of the city of Denton adopting standards of care for recreational care programs administered by Denton's park and recreation department pursuant to Texas human resources code section 42041B in providing an effective item. And we will be voting on this item. So -- >> Hi. Thank you. Caroline Seward, program area manager, Denton parks recreation. Each year we bring our standards of care for park board and council to approve. The standards of care are the minimum guidelines in which we will operate our recreational care programs. So summer camps and after school care. We look at them each year for updates. The main update this year is we are adding a new camp at clear creek heritage center. So that is added to our standards of care. And then we have updated our parent manual to outline our COVID procedures and policies. And I am happy to answer any questions on our standards of care. >> Can you kind of tell what does that mean, standards of care? What does that mean? >> It is the minimum requirements by law to operate a child recreational care program. So we are not a licensed child care facility. Recreational programs are exempt. So it outlines our health and safety procedures for our recreational care programs. >> Mr. Emmerich, I was going to jump in there. The way that we get the exemption from being licensed is having this ordinance and having city council adopt it each year. So that is why we have to go to council each year. >> Understood that. But I am curious what elements are in that? I mean, for lack of a better term, for like, you know, keeping the custom of fighting though, you know, I am just making fun of it. But in general, what does that mean? Tell me what that means. >> No, it is how we inspect the camps, our enrollment, how we report child abuse if we suspect it, the supervision requirements for the full-time staff and the part-time staff as well as discipline, programming, how we transport the children, and then our health and safety protocols like fire drills and that sort of thing. >> Okay. So you do it the same way like a school would if they were going on a field trip, I think, where you have to have protocols in place to make sure the kids are safe? >> Correct. >> Okay. I better understand it now. Thank you. >> Mr. Schuch? >> Yes. Can you summarize the changes over previous iterations of this ordinance? I think that might be helpful if you could point out what substantive differences there are other than dates. >> Really the main change is adding the new location, Clear Creek Natural Heritage Center. Everything else is just grammatical changes, commas here, you know, fixing a misspelled word. But the only major addition is including that facility. >> That and the COVID. >> Yes, the COVID protocols aren't actually part of the standards of care, but we do include them in our parents' manuals last year. We came before y'all in March right as COVID was happening, and both this board and city council asked for the COVID protocols, so we've included them in our parent manual, but they're not actually part of the standard of care. >> Thank you. >> Anybody else have any questions? I have a question. I know in the schools that my children go to, they get their temperature taken every day now and then, will you be doing that? I didn't see it in the illness section. >> Yes, in our parent manual, part of our check-in procedures is we will keep the parents out of the room where the kids are, but they'll check in at a desk, do a temperature screening, make sure they don't have any symptoms before being allowed into the program, and that's true for all of our recreation facilities. You have to have your temperature checked. >> And then how will hand sanitizers and hand washing go throughout the day to make sure that they are washing their hands? Because you know they like to eat and all that. >> No, in between activities, we have scheduled time for them to go in and wash their hands, and then we'll have hand sanitizer available in those times that there aren't restroom facilities available. If they're out in the park and they're in the playground, we'll do hand sanitizer in those instances. >> And then I have one more question about out at Clear Creek. As a lot of you already know, there are a lot of, like, the water moccasins and cotton mouths, snakes. What will be the procedures for learning about snakes and knowing what to do around a snake? How do you address that with the kids and what do you do if something happens? >> All of our camp counselors are trained in first aid and CPR, so they have minimal training when it comes to responding to, you know, snake bites as laid out by the American Red Cross. You see my daughter in the background. And then, you know, we'll have emergency -- >> He doesn't like snakes either. >> No, we don't. >> No, we just got it back in town, and she hasn't seen me yet, so she's anxious to get in here. But -- so we'll have, you know, emergency phones available. And then one of the first things we do at camp is just lay out the procedures and the safety guidelines. So that will be part of that initial orientation on the first day of camp. >> Thank you. Any other questions? >> Oh, if I could throw something in. Am I muted? Okay. I spend a lot of time at Clear Creek, and when we're out there, we kind of sort of know where to be careful and where not. I mean, we take it very -- all the master naturalists out there, we take it very, very seriously all the danger spots. And don't go here. Be careful when you go here. Do this, do this. And, yeah, we're all over that out there. So, I mean, they're our kids, too. So it's relaxed. >> We are partnering with the master naturalists and gardeners to come out and help do some of our educational programs. So we'll have that. >> Yeah, we're going to be talking now about interpretive hiking and who's going to do it and who's going to lead the hikes and where to go and cleaning everything up. So, yeah, it's a very serious topic out there. So no worries, Elena. We got you. >> I'm not worried. Education is good. Any other questions? I know Carolyn needs to get to her baby. All right. Then do we have a motion to approve this ordinance? >> Yeah, I make a motion that we approve. >> I'll second. >> Is there any discussion for this motion? All in favor, say aye. >> Aye. >> Any opposed? Okay. The ayes have it. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Carolyn. Okay. Let's move on to receive a report and hold discussion and give staff input regarding the naming applications for parks and trails as submitted by residents, local developers in the parks and recreation department. >> Can you all hear me? Yep. Okay. Sorry. Technology, I'm not the very best in. So Eddie Valdez, management analyst for the parks and recreation department and public works department. On April 6, staff presented the naming procedures as a work session for city council and the purpose of the city council meeting for that day was to provide a quick overview of the procedures and guidelines outlined in the naming policy and also to seek city council's direction for next steps. So if you go -- if you mind if you go to the next slide. So staff gave this exact visual to city council. As you can see, this is a quick overview of the naming procedures from start to finish. This includes the entire milestone with the two options that is written in the naming policy as it is today. So what I gave is the -- our staff gave was starting with step number one. The groups or individuals, they submit the application and then it goes to step number two. We receive it and the city manager will request a date for city council's review. Now we're in option number three and this is where it breaks out to option one or option two. But I do want to note that the inclusion was not part of the naming policy on the last parkour meeting. You all decided that a public meeting should be provided so we can gather input or even community meeting from the community as well. So in a nutshell, the outcome of this is city council decided to do option number two. But there's something in addition to that, instead of holding a -- or going for an ad hoc committee that we were providing a recommendation, they actually trust the parks and recreation -- I'm sorry, the parks, recreation and beautification board to be the replacement for the ad hoc committee. So you are all going to be now the new ad hoc committee, as not as an ad hoc committee, but they trusted your feedback because all the applications are from -- or related to basically parks and recreation. So congratulations. You've been upgraded or you've been promoted, park board members. So -- well, so you're probably going to ask how will this work since they chose number two. So the idea again with the ad hoc committee is that they would prepare a recommendation for city council for their consideration. Give me a second. I had to move this. Little piece of window here. And eventually with those recommendations, city council will basically review your recommendation and will basically make a final decision. But at the same time, city council did recommend that you move forward with your feedback, which is the inclusion, having a public forum or a community meeting. So what staff would do is probably -- we're targeting around May, before Memorial Day, hopefully, where staff will basically market the community meeting for around May, and then we can provide the feedback to you. Or would park board like to be part of the community meeting. So we kind of need your feedback in that realm. And then we are probably planning on doing possibly one community meeting, maybe possibly two, or maybe one community meeting and a public forum. So we're open for discussion. It's not something that you're all voting on. It's just feedback and just next steps. >> Thank you. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 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