1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Thank you. Morning and welcome 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,020 to this meeting of this density 3 00:00:09,020 --> 00:00:10,020 Council's committee on the 4 00:00:10,020 --> 00:00:12,020 environment, seeing that we 5 00:00:12,020 --> 00:00:13,020 have a quorum, we'll move right 6 00:00:13,020 --> 00:00:16,020 into the agenda. Our first item 7 00:00:16,020 --> 00:00:18,020 for consideration is item a 8 00:00:18,020 --> 00:00:19,020 consider approval of the 9 00:00:19,020 --> 00:00:24,020 February 1st minutes seeking a 10 00:00:24,020 --> 00:00:28,020 motion. I move approval of the 11 00:00:28,020 --> 00:00:31,040 second. I'll second it. All 12 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,040 those in discussion? None. 13 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,040 Seeing none. All those in 14 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,040 favor, please raise your hand 15 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:42,040 and say aye. Aye. Aye. Why not? 16 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,040 Okay, moving on to item B. 17 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,040 Receive a report and hold a 18 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,040 discussion on greenhouse gas 19 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,040 emission forecasting and 20 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,040 reduction strategy planning 21 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,060 sample. Good morning, Council 22 00:00:54,060 --> 00:00:56,060 members. James Douglas, 23 00:00:56,060 --> 00:00:57,060 Conservation Programs 24 00:00:57,060 --> 00:00:58,060 Coordinator with the 25 00:00:58,060 --> 00:01:00,060 Sustainability Department. Let 26 00:01:00,060 --> 00:01:11,060 me pull up the presentation. 27 00:01:11,060 --> 00:01:12,060 There we go. And how does that 28 00:01:12,060 --> 00:01:17,080 look for everybody? Awesome. 29 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,080 All right. So as you stated, 30 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,080 we're going to talk today about 31 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,080 the updated greenhouse gas 32 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,080 emissions forecast, and we're 33 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,080 also going to walk through a 34 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,080 sample reduction plan. As 35 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,100 stated at the last meeting, we 36 00:01:32,100 --> 00:01:34,100 did update that sample. And so 37 00:01:34,100 --> 00:01:36,100 we're going to present that 38 00:01:36,100 --> 00:01:38,100 today. And here's a little bit 39 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:39,100 of what we're going to go over. 40 00:01:39,100 --> 00:01:40,100 So we're going to touch on the 41 00:01:40,100 --> 00:01:42,100 background of the greenhouse 42 00:01:42,100 --> 00:01:44,100 gas management as a whole. 43 00:01:44,100 --> 00:01:46,100 We'll go over the methodology 44 00:01:46,100 --> 00:01:49,100 of the forecast itself and the 45 00:01:49,100 --> 00:01:51,120 business as usual results. So 46 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,120 those are the results without 47 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,120 any intervention. We're going 48 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,120 to go over the mitigation sample 49 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,120 strategy and those 50 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,120 recommendations from our 51 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,120 partnering organization, which 52 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,120 is ICLEI. So we've been a 53 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,140 member with ICLEI since we 54 00:02:08,140 --> 00:02:09,140 started our greenhouse gas 55 00:02:09,140 --> 00:02:13,140 inventory process in 2011. And 56 00:02:13,140 --> 00:02:16,140 we use their ClearPath tool to 57 00:02:16,140 --> 00:02:18,140 do all of the forecasting and 58 00:02:18,140 --> 00:02:19,140 all of the inventorying that 59 00:02:19,140 --> 00:02:21,140 you're going to see here. We'll 60 00:02:21,140 --> 00:02:23,140 go over some challenges to the 61 00:02:23,140 --> 00:02:25,140 forecasting and inventory 62 00:02:25,140 --> 00:02:28,160 process. And we're not going to 63 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,160 touch on specific reduction 64 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,160 target options today, but we are 65 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,160 going to go over some next 66 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,160 steps, the role of the new 67 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,160 citizen committee for 68 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,160 sustainability, and also some 69 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,160 exciting items that are on the 70 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,160 horizon for our greenhouse gas 71 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,160 management. So just a little 72 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,180 bit of background on the 73 00:02:48,180 --> 00:02:49,180 program. As I said, it started 74 00:02:49,180 --> 00:02:51,180 in 2011. The first thing that 75 00:02:51,180 --> 00:02:53,180 was done was a baseline 76 00:02:53,180 --> 00:02:56,180 inventory for the year 2006. And 77 00:02:56,180 --> 00:02:57,180 a greenhouse gas inventory is 78 00:02:57,180 --> 00:02:59,180 basically just an assessment of 79 00:02:59,180 --> 00:03:00,180 the city and the community's 80 00:03:00,180 --> 00:03:03,180 carbon footprint. From there, 81 00:03:03,180 --> 00:03:04,200 we started doing those 82 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,200 inventories annually in 2015. We 83 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,200 really got the data collection 84 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,200 streamlined, and so we're lucky 85 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,200 enough here in Denton to be able 86 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,200 to do that data collection 87 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,200 process annually. From there, 88 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,200 we were able to start 89 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,200 integrating some new tools such 90 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,200 as the contribution analysis, 91 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,180 which we started in 2018, and 92 00:03:23,180 --> 00:03:25,180 essentially that's a comparison 93 00:03:25,180 --> 00:03:27,180 of two years' worth of results. 94 00:03:27,180 --> 00:03:30,180 And so basically checking on 95 00:03:30,180 --> 00:03:32,180 what's the variability between 96 00:03:32,180 --> 00:03:34,180 those two years, what changed, 97 00:03:34,180 --> 00:03:37,180 what's different. We started the 98 00:03:37,180 --> 00:03:39,200 forecasting in the 2018-2019 99 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,200 timeframe as well. And so that 100 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,200 allows us to project our current 101 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,200 emissions and see what those are 102 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,200 going to look like moving 103 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,180 forward. The goal of the 104 00:03:52,180 --> 00:03:55,180 forecasting is to best inform the 105 00:03:55,180 --> 00:03:56,180 target setting process. And so 106 00:03:56,180 --> 00:03:57,180 if you take a look at the cycle 107 00:03:57,180 --> 00:03:59,180 to the right, the goal of this 108 00:03:59,180 --> 00:04:00,180 cycle is really to do this 109 00:04:00,180 --> 00:04:03,180 annually. So right now we're in 110 00:04:03,180 --> 00:04:04,180 the forecasting process for the 111 00:04:04,180 --> 00:04:07,180 first time. We would move into 112 00:04:07,180 --> 00:04:08,180 target setting and mitigation 113 00:04:08,180 --> 00:04:10,200 planning, and really annually we 114 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,200 would take a look and review and 115 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,200 monitor that every year and 116 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,200 build that into the next year's 117 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,200 inventory and just go throughout 118 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,200 the cycle. Here we have the 119 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,200 forecasting methodology. So the 120 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,200 2018 inventory was used as the 121 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,200 baseline input for the forecast. 122 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,180 That inventory is attached in 123 00:04:33,180 --> 00:04:37,180 the backup. The four sectors 124 00:04:37,180 --> 00:04:38,180 there will probably look 125 00:04:38,180 --> 00:04:39,180 familiar from our inventory. 126 00:04:39,180 --> 00:04:41,180 That's energy, transportation, 127 00:04:41,180 --> 00:04:43,180 water and wastewater and solid 128 00:04:43,180 --> 00:04:46,180 waste. As I said, there's really 129 00:04:46,180 --> 00:04:47,180 two main inputs to the forecast. 130 00:04:47,180 --> 00:04:50,180 So you have the base values from 131 00:04:50,180 --> 00:04:53,180 2018, and then you have the 132 00:04:53,180 --> 00:04:55,180 growth, which is from those 133 00:04:55,180 --> 00:04:56,180 factor sets that you see there. 134 00:04:56,180 --> 00:04:58,180 So some of those are probably 135 00:04:58,180 --> 00:04:59,180 what you would expect to see. 136 00:04:59,180 --> 00:05:01,180 Things like population growth, 137 00:05:01,180 --> 00:05:02,180 growth and residential 138 00:05:02,180 --> 00:05:03,180 development, which you can kind 139 00:05:03,180 --> 00:05:06,180 of think of as changes in 140 00:05:06,180 --> 00:05:07,180 population density and also 141 00:05:07,180 --> 00:05:10,180 expansion of residential 142 00:05:10,180 --> 00:05:11,180 development. And then things 143 00:05:11,180 --> 00:05:13,180 like carbon intensity. So these 144 00:05:13,180 --> 00:05:15,180 are things like EPA's standards 145 00:05:15,180 --> 00:05:17,180 for transportation. So they set 146 00:05:17,180 --> 00:05:19,180 goals for vehicle manufacturers 147 00:05:19,180 --> 00:05:20,180 that say, okay, we would like 148 00:05:20,180 --> 00:05:22,180 you to meet this efficiency by 149 00:05:22,180 --> 00:05:23,180 this year. And so we can take 150 00:05:23,180 --> 00:05:25,180 those and incorporate those and 151 00:05:25,180 --> 00:05:26,180 kind of know what to expect from 152 00:05:26,180 --> 00:05:29,180 a carbon intensity standpoint. 153 00:05:29,180 --> 00:05:30,180 Some assumptions that are in 154 00:05:30,180 --> 00:05:32,180 there are things like consistent 155 00:05:32,180 --> 00:05:35,180 behavior patterns. So basically 156 00:05:35,180 --> 00:05:37,180 what this is, you can kind of 157 00:05:37,180 --> 00:05:39,180 think of things like waste 158 00:05:39,180 --> 00:05:40,180 generated per person or vehicle 159 00:05:40,180 --> 00:05:42,180 miles traveled per person. So 160 00:05:42,180 --> 00:05:43,180 those are assumed to be 161 00:05:43,180 --> 00:05:45,180 constant in the forecast, but 162 00:05:45,180 --> 00:05:46,180 those are things that we can 163 00:05:46,180 --> 00:05:49,180 tweak later on in the reduction 164 00:05:49,180 --> 00:05:51,180 strategy. And with that, you can 165 00:05:51,180 --> 00:05:53,180 think of things like education, 166 00:05:53,180 --> 00:05:55,180 outreach, things like that, that 167 00:05:55,180 --> 00:05:58,180 we'll see potentially changes in 168 00:05:58,180 --> 00:06:00,180 behavior patterns. So let's take 169 00:06:00,180 --> 00:06:02,180 a look at this business as usual 170 00:06:02,180 --> 00:06:04,180 forecast. As I said, this is 171 00:06:04,180 --> 00:06:06,180 starting in 2018 and projected 172 00:06:06,180 --> 00:06:08,180 out to the year 2050. With 173 00:06:08,180 --> 00:06:10,180 things like population growth 174 00:06:10,180 --> 00:06:11,180 and residential development 175 00:06:11,180 --> 00:06:13,180 growth built in there, we do see 176 00:06:13,180 --> 00:06:15,180 an exponential increase, which is 177 00:06:15,180 --> 00:06:17,180 to be expected. And then the 178 00:06:17,180 --> 00:06:18,180 other main takeaway here is you 179 00:06:18,180 --> 00:06:19,180 can kind of see the two main 180 00:06:19,180 --> 00:06:21,180 categories that are contributing 181 00:06:21,180 --> 00:06:22,180 to the emissions here are 182 00:06:22,180 --> 00:06:24,180 transportation and residential 183 00:06:24,180 --> 00:06:26,180 energy. You do see a drop off 184 00:06:26,180 --> 00:06:29,180 there from 2018 to about 2021. 185 00:06:29,180 --> 00:06:31,180 That's from the continued 186 00:06:31,180 --> 00:06:35,180 reduction due to DME's 100% 187 00:06:35,180 --> 00:06:36,180 renewable target. That's largely 188 00:06:36,180 --> 00:06:38,180 what that is, as well as some 189 00:06:38,180 --> 00:06:40,180 other items that are currently 190 00:06:40,180 --> 00:06:42,180 in place. And then from there, 191 00:06:42,180 --> 00:06:45,180 once we've reached that 100% 192 00:06:45,180 --> 00:06:46,180 renewable energy, obviously, 193 00:06:46,180 --> 00:06:48,180 we're going to kind of increase 194 00:06:48,180 --> 00:06:50,180 from there without additional 195 00:06:50,180 --> 00:06:51,180 measures in place. 196 00:06:51,180 --> 00:06:52,180 >> Excuse me. I just want to 197 00:06:52,180 --> 00:06:53,180 pause you before you leave this 198 00:06:53,180 --> 00:06:55,180 slide. I'm just doing visual 199 00:06:55,180 --> 00:06:57,180 color matching, and the blue 200 00:06:57,180 --> 00:06:59,180 looks more like the industrial 201 00:06:59,180 --> 00:07:02,180 energy colors that I said. 202 00:07:02,180 --> 00:07:04,180 >> The -- yeah, it is a little 203 00:07:04,180 --> 00:07:06,180 bit -- so that's the darker blue 204 00:07:06,180 --> 00:07:08,180 that you see in the later years 205 00:07:08,180 --> 00:07:10,180 with the residential energy. I 206 00:07:10,180 --> 00:07:11,180 agree it is a little bit of a 207 00:07:11,180 --> 00:07:13,180 mismatch there, but yes, that is 208 00:07:13,180 --> 00:07:14,180 the darker blue color. 209 00:07:14,180 --> 00:07:15,180 >> Just confirming. Thanks. 210 00:07:15,180 --> 00:07:19,180 >> Thank you. As I said, that's 211 00:07:19,180 --> 00:07:21,180 the business as usual. And so 212 00:07:21,180 --> 00:07:24,180 this is our sample reduction 213 00:07:24,180 --> 00:07:25,180 strategy. As I said, we worked 214 00:07:25,180 --> 00:07:28,180 on this with ICLEI as well. And 215 00:07:28,180 --> 00:07:29,180 so basically what we were 216 00:07:29,180 --> 00:07:31,180 looking for were things that 217 00:07:31,180 --> 00:07:33,180 were most sort of within 218 00:07:33,180 --> 00:07:35,180 operational influence of the 219 00:07:35,180 --> 00:07:37,180 city. And so we targeted the 220 00:07:37,180 --> 00:07:39,180 two main sectors that we're 221 00:07:39,180 --> 00:07:40,180 contributing, energy and 222 00:07:40,180 --> 00:07:42,180 transportation. And so I'll 223 00:07:42,180 --> 00:07:43,180 walk through these briefly. 224 00:07:43,180 --> 00:07:45,180 There is a table that goes into 225 00:07:45,180 --> 00:07:46,180 more detail for all of these 226 00:07:46,180 --> 00:07:50,180 items in the backup. So a couple 227 00:07:50,180 --> 00:07:51,180 of things that are built into 228 00:07:51,180 --> 00:07:55,180 this is the concept that we will 229 00:07:55,180 --> 00:07:57,180 maintain 100% renewable energy 230 00:07:57,180 --> 00:08:00,180 moving forward, the addition of 231 00:08:00,180 --> 00:08:01,180 a low-income weatherization 232 00:08:01,180 --> 00:08:04,180 program, the continuation of the 233 00:08:04,180 --> 00:08:05,180 energy efficiency rebate 234 00:08:05,180 --> 00:08:09,180 program, and a retrofit program, 235 00:08:09,180 --> 00:08:11,180 which is the electrification of 236 00:08:11,180 --> 00:08:13,180 existing gas appliances. So 237 00:08:13,180 --> 00:08:15,180 that's existing in 2021 and 238 00:08:15,180 --> 00:08:17,180 replacing those by 2050 as they 239 00:08:17,180 --> 00:08:20,180 break and need replaced with 240 00:08:20,180 --> 00:08:22,180 electric options. On the 241 00:08:22,180 --> 00:08:24,180 transportation side, we have 242 00:08:24,180 --> 00:08:26,180 things such as expanded transit 243 00:08:26,180 --> 00:08:29,180 coverage, the proposed mobility 244 00:08:29,180 --> 00:08:31,180 plan updates. This was back with 245 00:08:31,180 --> 00:08:33,180 the 2020 draft. As we move 246 00:08:33,180 --> 00:08:35,180 forward with that process, we'll 247 00:08:35,180 --> 00:08:36,180 be happy to incorporate any 248 00:08:36,180 --> 00:08:38,180 changes to the mobility plan 249 00:08:38,180 --> 00:08:41,180 that come in. A continued remote 250 00:08:41,180 --> 00:08:43,180 work strategy. So a certain 251 00:08:43,180 --> 00:08:45,180 percentage of the population 252 00:08:45,180 --> 00:08:47,180 that shifted to remote work over 253 00:08:47,180 --> 00:08:48,180 the last year would remain at 254 00:08:48,180 --> 00:08:49,180 remote work. And so we built that 255 00:08:49,180 --> 00:08:52,180 in. We also built in a fast 256 00:08:52,180 --> 00:08:54,180 adoption EV scenario. And so 257 00:08:54,180 --> 00:08:57,180 this is a -- to give you some of 258 00:08:57,180 --> 00:08:59,180 the target points, 30% passenger 259 00:08:59,180 --> 00:09:02,180 gasoline vehicles by 2030 would 260 00:09:02,180 --> 00:09:04,180 be EV. Now that is -- and that is 261 00:09:04,180 --> 00:09:07,180 from a fast adoption scenario. 262 00:09:07,180 --> 00:09:09,180 And then also a 75% target by 263 00:09:09,180 --> 00:09:11,180 2050, which has been -- is 264 00:09:11,180 --> 00:09:13,180 something that's been included in 265 00:09:13,180 --> 00:09:15,180 other cities' plans in the North 266 00:09:15,180 --> 00:09:17,180 Texas region. And so, you know, 267 00:09:17,180 --> 00:09:19,180 we felt a little bit comfortable 268 00:09:19,180 --> 00:09:21,180 including that in our sample as 269 00:09:21,180 --> 00:09:23,180 well. Improved citywide bike 270 00:09:23,180 --> 00:09:25,180 infrastructure. And also bus 271 00:09:25,180 --> 00:09:27,180 rapid transit starting in 2045. 272 00:09:27,180 --> 00:09:29,180 And so that would basically be 273 00:09:29,180 --> 00:09:31,180 when -- when Denton would grow to 274 00:09:31,180 --> 00:09:32,180 the point when something like 275 00:09:32,180 --> 00:09:34,180 that would be a little bit more 276 00:09:34,180 --> 00:09:35,180 feasible. And so we included that 277 00:09:35,180 --> 00:09:38,180 as well. As I said, those are in 278 00:09:38,180 --> 00:09:40,180 more detail in a table in the 279 00:09:40,180 --> 00:09:42,180 backup. And I'm happy to answer 280 00:09:42,180 --> 00:09:43,180 any questions if you do have 281 00:09:43,180 --> 00:09:45,180 detailed questions about those. 282 00:09:45,180 --> 00:09:47,180 This is the incorporation of that 283 00:09:47,180 --> 00:09:49,180 sample reduction strategy. As you 284 00:09:49,180 --> 00:09:51,180 can see, transportation, we 285 00:09:51,180 --> 00:09:52,180 really lower transportation 286 00:09:52,180 --> 00:09:54,180 emissions there, especially 287 00:09:54,180 --> 00:09:58,180 towards the later years. And we 288 00:09:58,180 --> 00:10:00,180 basically see an overall 289 00:10:00,180 --> 00:10:03,180 reduction. The -- I'm going to 290 00:10:03,180 --> 00:10:05,180 move on to the next slide, but 291 00:10:05,180 --> 00:10:06,180 I'm happy to come back to the 292 00:10:06,180 --> 00:10:10,180 table. Actually, I'll stay here 293 00:10:10,180 --> 00:10:13,180 for just a second. So the -- the 294 00:10:13,180 --> 00:10:17,180 two proposed targets here from 295 00:10:17,180 --> 00:10:19,180 ICLEI are a 30% by 2035. And 296 00:10:19,180 --> 00:10:21,180 this is really a maintaining of 297 00:10:21,180 --> 00:10:23,180 that 30%. So we have crossed 298 00:10:23,180 --> 00:10:26,180 that threshold currently with 299 00:10:26,180 --> 00:10:28,180 our 2019 inventory. However, 300 00:10:28,180 --> 00:10:30,180 maintaining that 30% will be a 301 00:10:30,180 --> 00:10:32,180 challenge with the exponential 302 00:10:32,180 --> 00:10:33,180 growth that we are expecting to 303 00:10:33,180 --> 00:10:36,180 see. And ICLEI's other proposed 304 00:10:36,180 --> 00:10:38,180 more long-term target is a net 305 00:10:38,180 --> 00:10:42,180 zero target. So with that, some 306 00:10:42,180 --> 00:10:43,180 of the challenges, of course, 307 00:10:43,180 --> 00:10:44,180 are going to be operational 308 00:10:44,180 --> 00:10:46,180 control and operational influence 309 00:10:46,180 --> 00:10:48,180 of the city. And so there are, 310 00:10:48,180 --> 00:10:49,180 of course, certain levers that 311 00:10:49,180 --> 00:10:51,180 can be pulled. But some things 312 00:10:51,180 --> 00:10:53,180 will be the natural transition, 313 00:10:53,180 --> 00:10:55,180 such as the transition to EVs, 314 00:10:55,180 --> 00:10:58,180 you know, when those -- when the 315 00:10:58,180 --> 00:10:59,180 price point changes, when the 316 00:10:59,180 --> 00:11:01,180 technology becomes available, 317 00:11:01,180 --> 00:11:02,180 things like that, hurdles that 318 00:11:02,180 --> 00:11:04,180 will be cleared, are slightly 319 00:11:04,180 --> 00:11:07,180 outside of the city's operational 320 00:11:07,180 --> 00:11:09,180 influence. As I said, that kind 321 00:11:09,180 --> 00:11:11,180 of ties hand in hand with the 322 00:11:11,180 --> 00:11:13,180 assumption of behavior change. 323 00:11:13,180 --> 00:11:14,180 There are things such as 324 00:11:14,180 --> 00:11:15,180 education and outreach that the 325 00:11:15,180 --> 00:11:17,180 city can do, but some of those 326 00:11:17,180 --> 00:11:18,180 things are going to be a gradual 327 00:11:18,180 --> 00:11:21,180 behavior change. Federal, state, 328 00:11:21,180 --> 00:11:22,180 and regional continuity. 329 00:11:22,180 --> 00:11:25,180 Basically, what we mean by this 330 00:11:25,180 --> 00:11:27,180 is there are items, as we're 331 00:11:27,180 --> 00:11:29,180 looking for reduction strategies, 332 00:11:29,180 --> 00:11:30,180 that will work in certain parts 333 00:11:30,180 --> 00:11:31,180 of the United States that might 334 00:11:31,180 --> 00:11:33,180 not work so well in Texas, or 335 00:11:33,180 --> 00:11:34,180 things that might work really 336 00:11:34,180 --> 00:11:35,180 well in Dallas, but might not 337 00:11:35,180 --> 00:11:37,180 work so well in Denton. And so 338 00:11:37,180 --> 00:11:38,180 basically, just finding that 339 00:11:38,180 --> 00:11:42,180 very Denton-specific reduction 340 00:11:42,180 --> 00:11:44,180 strategy and sample is in and of 341 00:11:44,180 --> 00:11:46,180 itself a challenge. And then, of 342 00:11:46,180 --> 00:11:48,180 course, we want to balance 343 00:11:48,180 --> 00:11:49,180 sustainable growth. Obviously, we 344 00:11:49,180 --> 00:11:51,180 want people to come to Denton, 345 00:11:51,180 --> 00:11:52,180 enjoy everything that Denton has 346 00:11:52,180 --> 00:11:54,180 to offer. We expect to see a 347 00:11:54,180 --> 00:11:56,180 growing population. And so 348 00:11:56,180 --> 00:11:58,180 basically, just balancing that 349 00:11:58,180 --> 00:11:59,180 with sustainable growth and 350 00:11:59,180 --> 00:12:00,180 understanding our greenhouse 351 00:12:00,180 --> 00:12:02,180 gas emissions moving forward is 352 00:12:02,180 --> 00:12:06,180 also a challenge. As I said, the 353 00:12:06,180 --> 00:12:07,180 main takeaway from the ICLEI 354 00:12:07,180 --> 00:12:08,180 recommendations, and there is 355 00:12:08,180 --> 00:12:12,180 also a memo from ICLEI 356 00:12:12,180 --> 00:12:14,180 regarding this forecast in the 357 00:12:14,180 --> 00:12:16,180 backup, the main takeaway is 358 00:12:16,180 --> 00:12:18,180 really a two-part goal, is the 359 00:12:18,180 --> 00:12:20,180 recommendation. So an interim 360 00:12:20,180 --> 00:12:22,180 target for more of the short 361 00:12:22,180 --> 00:12:24,180 term, and then a long-term goal. 362 00:12:24,180 --> 00:12:26,180 This sample, as I said, addresses 363 00:12:26,180 --> 00:12:29,180 the target of 30% by 2035 as an 364 00:12:29,180 --> 00:12:31,180 example. And ICLEI's long-term 365 00:12:31,180 --> 00:12:33,180 goal for all of their cities is 366 00:12:33,180 --> 00:12:35,180 net zero. That's what they do as 367 00:12:35,180 --> 00:12:36,180 an organization, and that's what 368 00:12:36,180 --> 00:12:38,180 they hope to help all cities to 369 00:12:38,180 --> 00:12:41,180 achieve. With that, I do want to 370 00:12:41,180 --> 00:12:43,180 go over some next steps and some 371 00:12:43,180 --> 00:12:44,180 exciting things that are on the 372 00:12:44,180 --> 00:12:46,180 horizon. So as I said, we will be 373 00:12:46,180 --> 00:12:49,180 taking this whole topic and 374 00:12:49,180 --> 00:12:51,180 concept to the citizen advisory 375 00:12:51,180 --> 00:12:53,180 committee. We're hoping to give 376 00:12:53,180 --> 00:12:54,180 them two to three presentations 377 00:12:54,180 --> 00:12:56,180 to really bring them up to speed, 378 00:12:56,180 --> 00:12:58,180 but what we're hoping is to get 379 00:12:58,180 --> 00:13:00,180 some input on the forecasting 380 00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:02,180 model and on the reduction 381 00:13:02,180 --> 00:13:04,180 strategies and see if there's 382 00:13:04,180 --> 00:13:06,180 anything additional that they see 383 00:13:06,180 --> 00:13:08,180 is incredibly feasible right now, 384 00:13:08,180 --> 00:13:10,180 or kind of get an idea from them 385 00:13:10,180 --> 00:13:12,180 of where those inflection points 386 00:13:12,180 --> 00:13:14,180 are on some of the technology and 387 00:13:14,180 --> 00:13:16,180 things like that to make sure 388 00:13:16,180 --> 00:13:18,180 that the model is as good as it 389 00:13:18,180 --> 00:13:21,180 can possibly be. Once we have 390 00:13:21,180 --> 00:13:23,180 their input and recommendations, 391 00:13:23,180 --> 00:13:24,180 we'll bring that back to the 392 00:13:24,180 --> 00:13:26,180 committee on the environment, and 393 00:13:26,180 --> 00:13:28,180 we will further discuss those 394 00:13:28,180 --> 00:13:31,180 reduction targets at that time. 395 00:13:31,180 --> 00:13:32,180 Some things that are coming about 396 00:13:32,180 --> 00:13:34,180 with the greenhouse gas management 397 00:13:34,180 --> 00:13:35,180 program as a whole, like I said, 398 00:13:35,180 --> 00:13:37,180 that we're really excited about. 399 00:13:37,180 --> 00:13:39,180 The first one, the 2020 inventory, 400 00:13:39,180 --> 00:13:41,180 as I said, we do this annually, 401 00:13:41,180 --> 00:13:43,180 and so we can expect those 402 00:13:43,180 --> 00:13:46,180 results probably mid to late 403 00:13:46,180 --> 00:13:48,180 summer for the 2020 inventory, 404 00:13:48,180 --> 00:13:49,180 so we're going to start working on 405 00:13:49,180 --> 00:13:51,180 that, as well as the contribution 406 00:13:51,180 --> 00:13:53,180 analysis. We're really excited 407 00:13:53,180 --> 00:13:55,180 about some new transportation data 408 00:13:55,180 --> 00:13:57,180 that's coming about, and so this is 409 00:13:57,180 --> 00:13:58,180 incredibly important because it's 410 00:13:58,180 --> 00:14:00,180 going to allow us to analyze 411 00:14:00,180 --> 00:14:02,180 transportation every single year, 412 00:14:02,180 --> 00:14:05,180 and so before we were getting 413 00:14:05,180 --> 00:14:07,180 three to five years between new 414 00:14:07,180 --> 00:14:09,180 data sets, and so with this new 415 00:14:09,180 --> 00:14:11,180 data source, having it be every 416 00:14:11,180 --> 00:14:13,180 year, we're going to be able to 417 00:14:13,180 --> 00:14:15,180 analyze that change year to year, 418 00:14:15,180 --> 00:14:17,180 and as we set these goals and have 419 00:14:17,180 --> 00:14:19,180 these mitigation strategies, that's 420 00:14:19,180 --> 00:14:21,180 going to be incredibly important 421 00:14:21,180 --> 00:14:24,180 in terms of keeping us on track. 422 00:14:24,180 --> 00:14:27,180 And the last thing is the regional 423 00:14:27,180 --> 00:14:29,180 greenhouse gas inventory cohort 424 00:14:29,180 --> 00:14:31,180 that's hosted by the COG. 425 00:14:31,180 --> 00:14:36,180 So for the last nine, 10 years, 426 00:14:36,180 --> 00:14:38,180 Denton's really been one of about 427 00:14:38,180 --> 00:14:40,180 three cities in the area that's had 428 00:14:40,180 --> 00:14:42,180 a greenhouse gas inventory, and so 429 00:14:42,180 --> 00:14:43,180 with this program, that's no longer 430 00:14:43,180 --> 00:14:45,180 going to be the case, so the COG 431 00:14:45,180 --> 00:14:47,180 is hoping to get about 20 cities 432 00:14:47,180 --> 00:14:49,180 to, for many of them, do their 433 00:14:49,180 --> 00:14:51,180 first greenhouse gas inventory, 434 00:14:51,180 --> 00:14:52,180 which is going to be excellent, and 435 00:14:52,180 --> 00:14:53,180 they're also going to do a 436 00:14:53,180 --> 00:14:55,180 regional greenhouse gas inventory, 437 00:14:55,180 --> 00:14:58,180 and so the hope is to basically 438 00:14:58,180 --> 00:14:59,180 streamline this process with other 439 00:14:59,180 --> 00:15:03,180 cities, and also when everybody kind 440 00:15:03,180 --> 00:15:05,180 of does this collectively, we're 441 00:15:05,180 --> 00:15:06,180 really looking for some regional 442 00:15:06,180 --> 00:15:09,180 solutions to come about from this, 443 00:15:09,180 --> 00:15:11,180 and so we're really excited to 444 00:15:11,180 --> 00:15:14,180 collaborate with the COG and with 445 00:15:14,180 --> 00:15:15,180 the other cities in the area, and 446 00:15:15,180 --> 00:15:17,180 we're excited to see the results of 447 00:15:17,180 --> 00:15:19,180 that program. 448 00:15:19,180 --> 00:15:21,180 So with that, I will move on to any 449 00:15:21,180 --> 00:15:23,180 questions that you might have, but 450 00:15:23,180 --> 00:15:25,180 we're also really looking for 451 00:15:25,180 --> 00:15:28,180 anything that you can think of, as I 452 00:15:28,180 --> 00:15:30,180 said, as we take this topic to the 453 00:15:30,180 --> 00:15:32,180 citizen advisory committee, if 454 00:15:32,180 --> 00:15:34,180 there's anything that you would like 455 00:15:34,180 --> 00:15:38,180 us to consider or to keep in mind as 456 00:15:38,180 --> 00:15:40,180 we go through that process. 457 00:15:40,180 --> 00:15:45,180 Let me pull down the presentation. 458 00:15:45,180 --> 00:15:47,180 There we go. 459 00:15:47,180 --> 00:15:48,180 Thank you. 460 00:15:48,180 --> 00:15:54,180 Committee members, questions? 461 00:15:54,180 --> 00:15:55,180 Thank you. 462 00:15:55,180 --> 00:15:56,180 I don't have any questions. 463 00:15:56,180 --> 00:15:57,180 That was all very well presented, 464 00:15:57,180 --> 00:16:00,180 and a lot of the, you know, the 465 00:16:00,180 --> 00:16:01,180 actual data and the things that we'll 466 00:16:01,180 --> 00:16:03,180 need to kind of dig into kind of come 467 00:16:03,180 --> 00:16:06,180 later on, but, you know, I thought it 468 00:16:06,180 --> 00:16:08,180 was encouraging to see if we build in 469 00:16:08,180 --> 00:16:09,180 some of those assumptions, you know, 470 00:16:09,180 --> 00:16:11,180 knowing that they're assumptions, that 471 00:16:11,180 --> 00:16:14,180 we have some real opportunities. 472 00:16:14,180 --> 00:16:16,180 The only thing I'm a little concerned 473 00:16:16,180 --> 00:16:19,180 about when we go to the citizen's 474 00:16:19,180 --> 00:16:20,180 advisory group, and they're a real 475 00:16:20,180 --> 00:16:22,180 bright group, I'm really sure that 476 00:16:22,180 --> 00:16:23,180 they're going to understand this 477 00:16:23,180 --> 00:16:25,180 pretty well, but if we can kind of 478 00:16:25,180 --> 00:16:27,180 emphasize operational control, just 479 00:16:27,180 --> 00:16:30,180 because there are so many things the 480 00:16:30,180 --> 00:16:31,180 city can do and there are so many 481 00:16:31,180 --> 00:16:33,180 things the city can't, and you're 482 00:16:33,180 --> 00:16:34,180 well aware of those. 483 00:16:34,180 --> 00:16:35,180 Y'all's department is very well 484 00:16:35,180 --> 00:16:37,180 aware of those. 485 00:16:37,180 --> 00:16:38,180 I think most members of the 486 00:16:38,180 --> 00:16:41,180 committee are very aware of the 487 00:16:41,180 --> 00:16:44,180 city's limitations also, but just 488 00:16:44,180 --> 00:16:45,180 if we kind of have an asterisk by 489 00:16:45,180 --> 00:16:47,180 that, so folks know what we can do 490 00:16:47,180 --> 00:16:50,180 and what we can't do. 491 00:16:50,180 --> 00:16:51,180 Definitely, we'll definitely be 492 00:16:51,180 --> 00:16:53,180 looking to, you know, where we get 493 00:16:53,180 --> 00:16:55,180 the most of our efforts, I think, is 494 00:16:55,180 --> 00:16:56,180 really what we're focused on, so 495 00:16:56,180 --> 00:16:59,180 absolutely. 496 00:16:59,180 --> 00:17:04,180 Councilmember Baker. 497 00:17:04,180 --> 00:17:10,180 Anything to add or ask? 498 00:17:10,180 --> 00:17:12,180 You're muted. 499 00:17:12,180 --> 00:17:18,180 Connie, you got to unmute. 500 00:17:18,180 --> 00:17:19,180 There you go. 501 00:17:19,180 --> 00:17:20,180 I was going to ask on the 502 00:17:20,180 --> 00:17:23,180 environmental, does it have anything 503 00:17:23,180 --> 00:17:27,180 to do with the landfill expansion or 504 00:17:27,180 --> 00:17:29,180 anything? 505 00:17:29,180 --> 00:17:31,180 I mean this. 506 00:17:31,180 --> 00:17:34,180 So we include solid waste as one of 507 00:17:34,180 --> 00:17:38,180 the sectors that is inputted into 508 00:17:38,180 --> 00:17:39,180 the inventory. 509 00:17:39,180 --> 00:17:40,180 When we take a look at the 510 00:17:40,180 --> 00:17:42,180 community, it wasn't one of the ones 511 00:17:42,180 --> 00:17:43,180 that we were focusing on for the 512 00:17:43,180 --> 00:17:45,180 current reduction strategy and also 513 00:17:45,180 --> 00:17:46,180 with the solid waste management 514 00:17:46,180 --> 00:17:48,180 strategy to be released soon. 515 00:17:48,180 --> 00:17:50,180 We'll definitely take that into 516 00:17:50,180 --> 00:17:52,180 consideration, and so we work 517 00:17:52,180 --> 00:17:54,180 closely with them on all of this, and 518 00:17:54,180 --> 00:17:56,180 we do include them in our annual 519 00:17:56,180 --> 00:17:58,180 inventory, and so any changes with 520 00:17:58,180 --> 00:18:00,180 that will be included in that 521 00:18:00,180 --> 00:18:03,180 annual report for us. 522 00:18:03,180 --> 00:18:05,180 Well, I just wondered. 523 00:18:05,180 --> 00:18:07,180 I've had some people, you know, I 524 00:18:07,180 --> 00:18:10,180 asked about the landfill, and I'm 525 00:18:10,180 --> 00:18:12,180 glad they're looking into it or 526 00:18:12,180 --> 00:18:14,180 going to look into it, so thank you 527 00:18:14,180 --> 00:18:16,180 very much. 528 00:18:16,180 --> 00:18:19,180 I have a number of questions. 529 00:18:19,180 --> 00:18:22,180 First of all, can you remind us 530 00:18:22,180 --> 00:18:25,180 whether we tie exactly or similarly 531 00:18:25,180 --> 00:18:28,180 or a little bit differently to the 532 00:18:28,180 --> 00:18:35,180 Paris targets and the international 533 00:18:35,180 --> 00:18:38,180 intergovernmental panel on climate 534 00:18:38,180 --> 00:18:39,180 change? 535 00:18:39,180 --> 00:18:42,180 Yes, so we are looking and we will 536 00:18:42,180 --> 00:18:44,180 present all of those tie-ins as we 537 00:18:44,180 --> 00:18:46,180 present the reduction strategy 538 00:18:46,180 --> 00:18:48,180 options. 539 00:18:48,180 --> 00:18:50,180 We -- I'm anticipating that those 540 00:18:50,180 --> 00:18:52,180 will be a little bit different 541 00:18:52,180 --> 00:18:54,180 depending on how long it is between 542 00:18:54,180 --> 00:18:56,180 when we reconvene, so those may 543 00:18:56,180 --> 00:18:58,180 change in that time frame. 544 00:18:58,180 --> 00:19:00,180 And then there are also -- we'll 545 00:19:00,180 --> 00:19:02,180 also present some options. 546 00:19:02,180 --> 00:19:04,180 We're expecting some other 547 00:19:04,180 --> 00:19:06,180 documentation to come out with 548 00:19:06,180 --> 00:19:09,180 ICLEI as well that sort of tie it 549 00:19:09,180 --> 00:19:11,180 back to both the Paris agreement 550 00:19:11,180 --> 00:19:13,180 and then obviously one more step 551 00:19:13,180 --> 00:19:15,180 back to the IPCC, and so we'll 552 00:19:15,180 --> 00:19:17,180 have a little bit more information 553 00:19:17,180 --> 00:19:19,180 about that as well when we present 554 00:19:19,180 --> 00:19:22,180 those targeting options. 555 00:19:22,180 --> 00:19:26,180 Okay. 556 00:19:26,180 --> 00:19:30,180 I know looking at the slide seven 557 00:19:30,180 --> 00:19:33,180 graph that shows kind of BAU versus 558 00:19:33,180 --> 00:19:36,180 projected with mitigation, can you 559 00:19:36,180 --> 00:19:38,180 give us an idea of which of the 560 00:19:38,180 --> 00:19:40,180 strategies contribute the most to 561 00:19:40,180 --> 00:19:42,180 that delta? 562 00:19:42,180 --> 00:19:44,180 What does it really hinge on? 563 00:19:44,180 --> 00:19:46,180 It's everything, but what does the 564 00:19:46,180 --> 00:19:47,180 most? 565 00:19:47,180 --> 00:19:48,180 Definitely. 566 00:19:48,180 --> 00:19:50,180 And so if you take a look at that 567 00:19:50,180 --> 00:19:52,180 profile, obviously those are 568 00:19:52,180 --> 00:19:54,180 specific to the sector, right? 569 00:19:54,180 --> 00:19:56,180 So we can see if something is 570 00:19:56,180 --> 00:19:58,180 influencing vehicle miles traveled. 571 00:19:58,180 --> 00:20:00,180 We can compare that to something 572 00:20:00,180 --> 00:20:02,180 else that is also influencing 573 00:20:02,180 --> 00:20:04,180 vehicle miles traveled. 574 00:20:04,180 --> 00:20:06,180 It's a little bit more difficult to 575 00:20:06,180 --> 00:20:08,180 say overall on a carbon basis 576 00:20:08,180 --> 00:20:10,180 because it changes every year in 577 00:20:10,180 --> 00:20:12,180 terms of those growth factors and 578 00:20:12,180 --> 00:20:14,180 things like that. 579 00:20:14,180 --> 00:20:16,180 I can say that the shift to EVs, 580 00:20:16,180 --> 00:20:18,180 especially that fast adoption EVs 581 00:20:18,180 --> 00:20:20,180 because transportation is such a 582 00:20:20,180 --> 00:20:22,180 big part of that inventory is 583 00:20:22,180 --> 00:20:24,180 probably going to be one of the more 584 00:20:24,180 --> 00:20:26,180 influential ones and any of those 585 00:20:26,180 --> 00:20:28,180 sort of VMT reduction things 586 00:20:28,180 --> 00:20:30,180 such as the 587 00:20:30,180 --> 00:20:32,180 transit capacity and things like that. 588 00:20:32,180 --> 00:20:34,180 Vehicle miles traveled, right? 589 00:20:34,180 --> 00:20:36,180 Yes, sorry, yes, correct. 590 00:20:36,180 --> 00:20:38,180 Vehicle miles traveled. 591 00:20:38,180 --> 00:20:40,180 So the remote working is a 592 00:20:40,180 --> 00:20:42,180 big contributor that could be? 593 00:20:42,180 --> 00:20:44,180 It is absolutely a contributor. 594 00:20:44,180 --> 00:20:46,180 It was a little bit less 595 00:20:46,180 --> 00:20:48,180 than anticipated in sort 596 00:20:48,180 --> 00:20:50,180 of a smaller reduction. 597 00:20:50,180 --> 00:20:52,180 But that being said, when 598 00:20:52,180 --> 00:20:54,180 we took a look at that, we were taking a look at, okay, 599 00:20:54,180 --> 00:20:56,180 what percentage of people 600 00:20:56,180 --> 00:20:58,180 actually made that shift to 601 00:20:58,180 --> 00:21:00,180 working from home and what 602 00:21:00,180 --> 00:21:02,180 percentage of total vehicle miles 603 00:21:02,180 --> 00:21:04,180 traveled are for commuting. 604 00:21:04,180 --> 00:21:06,180 And when we started 605 00:21:06,180 --> 00:21:08,180 taking out things like that, 606 00:21:08,180 --> 00:21:10,180 obviously it became less and less 607 00:21:10,180 --> 00:21:12,180 of an impact. So I think 30% 608 00:21:12,180 --> 00:21:14,180 of all vehicle 609 00:21:14,180 --> 00:21:16,180 miles traveled are from commuting. And then 610 00:21:16,180 --> 00:21:18,180 I think we had about a 31% 611 00:21:18,180 --> 00:21:20,180 shift to 612 00:21:20,180 --> 00:21:22,180 work from home. And so when you start 613 00:21:22,180 --> 00:21:24,180 taking those into account, it was a little 614 00:21:24,180 --> 00:21:26,180 bit less than we were anticipating, but certainly 615 00:21:26,180 --> 00:21:28,180 still worth including. 616 00:21:28,180 --> 00:21:30,180 So if you had to rank order, obviously we want to do 617 00:21:30,180 --> 00:21:32,180 everything on our list to achieve the goal, but 618 00:21:32,180 --> 00:21:34,180 if you had to rank order, 619 00:21:34,180 --> 00:21:36,180 is it 620 00:21:36,180 --> 00:21:38,180 accelerating the shift toward 621 00:21:38,180 --> 00:21:40,180 electric vehicles number one and what's number 622 00:21:40,180 --> 00:21:42,180 two? In this sample, 623 00:21:42,180 --> 00:21:44,180 I believe EVs was the largest. 624 00:21:44,180 --> 00:21:46,180 And then 625 00:21:46,180 --> 00:21:48,180 some of the other ones 626 00:21:48,180 --> 00:21:50,180 that were up there were 627 00:21:50,180 --> 00:21:52,180 pull up the list here 628 00:21:52,180 --> 00:21:54,180 from the table. 629 00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:56,180 The 630 00:21:56,180 --> 00:21:58,180 expanded transit coverage and the 631 00:21:58,180 --> 00:22:00,180 bicycle infrastructure 632 00:22:00,180 --> 00:22:02,180 and the mobility plan were up there as well. 633 00:22:02,180 --> 00:22:04,180 Just as I said, taking chunks 634 00:22:04,180 --> 00:22:06,180 out of that, the transportation sector. 635 00:22:06,180 --> 00:22:08,180 So I was wondering about 636 00:22:08,180 --> 00:22:10,180 that one. I thought that might be the case 637 00:22:10,180 --> 00:22:12,180 since, you know, 638 00:22:12,180 --> 00:22:14,180 motor vehicles are such a big part 639 00:22:14,180 --> 00:22:16,180 of what we're talking about, but 640 00:22:16,180 --> 00:22:18,180 tell me where 641 00:22:18,180 --> 00:22:20,180 my thinking is wrong on this. 642 00:22:20,180 --> 00:22:22,180 Public transit 643 00:22:22,180 --> 00:22:24,180 only reduces greenhouse gases in two ways, 644 00:22:24,180 --> 00:22:26,180 I think. If you replace 645 00:22:26,180 --> 00:22:28,180 a car on the road or 646 00:22:28,180 --> 00:22:30,180 if that vehicle 647 00:22:30,180 --> 00:22:32,180 itself 648 00:22:32,180 --> 00:22:34,180 goes from, you know, goes 649 00:22:34,180 --> 00:22:36,180 to something non-polluted, goes to electric. 650 00:22:36,180 --> 00:22:38,180 Because, you know, 651 00:22:38,180 --> 00:22:40,180 what I'm thinking about is DCTA 652 00:22:40,180 --> 00:22:42,180 is moving primarily to 653 00:22:42,180 --> 00:22:44,180 on-demand. 654 00:22:44,180 --> 00:22:46,180 So it's somebody else's 655 00:22:46,180 --> 00:22:48,180 vehicle on the road. It's not your own. 656 00:22:48,180 --> 00:22:50,180 I mean, I guess there's a little bit of efficiency. 657 00:22:50,180 --> 00:22:52,180 You might have two or three in the vehicle 658 00:22:52,180 --> 00:22:54,180 but not 10 or 20. 659 00:22:54,180 --> 00:22:56,180 So, 660 00:22:56,180 --> 00:22:58,180 you know, if we shift people to on-demand 661 00:22:58,180 --> 00:23:00,180 with DCTA, I would think that it would only 662 00:23:00,180 --> 00:23:02,180 matter if their on-demand fleet 663 00:23:02,180 --> 00:23:04,180 was electric. 664 00:23:06,180 --> 00:23:08,180 So 665 00:23:08,180 --> 00:23:10,180 you're 666 00:23:10,180 --> 00:23:12,180 spot on with the 667 00:23:12,180 --> 00:23:14,180 two impacts 668 00:23:14,180 --> 00:23:16,180 in terms of vehicle miles traveled reduction 669 00:23:16,180 --> 00:23:18,180 and then carbon intensity. 670 00:23:18,180 --> 00:23:20,180 And so carbon intensity 671 00:23:20,180 --> 00:23:22,180 can kind of be two ways, as you said, if it's 672 00:23:22,180 --> 00:23:24,180 a vehicle miles 673 00:23:24,180 --> 00:23:26,180 traveled can kind of be two ways. If it's a shared 674 00:23:26,180 --> 00:23:28,180 ride, right, 675 00:23:28,180 --> 00:23:30,180 if it's a bus, 676 00:23:30,180 --> 00:23:32,180 as you said, if you're taking vehicle miles traveled off 677 00:23:32,180 --> 00:23:34,180 of the road, is one of them. 678 00:23:34,180 --> 00:23:36,180 And then if the 679 00:23:36,180 --> 00:23:38,180 vehicles in question 680 00:23:38,180 --> 00:23:40,180 are less 681 00:23:40,180 --> 00:23:42,180 carbon intensive, then 682 00:23:42,180 --> 00:23:44,180 the passenger vehicles. And so 683 00:23:44,180 --> 00:23:46,180 we would have to look specifically 684 00:23:46,180 --> 00:23:48,180 at each of those 685 00:23:48,180 --> 00:23:50,180 to incorporate them into the model. But you're correct 686 00:23:50,180 --> 00:23:52,180 that those are the two sort of 687 00:23:52,180 --> 00:23:54,180 metric points that are being influenced there. 688 00:23:54,180 --> 00:23:56,180 And I take your point that 689 00:23:56,180 --> 00:23:58,180 you're looking at 690 00:23:58,180 --> 00:24:00,180 a big expansion of bus sort of down the road 691 00:24:00,180 --> 00:24:02,180 when the population's 692 00:24:02,180 --> 00:24:04,180 bigger and more dense. 693 00:24:04,180 --> 00:24:06,180 Well, bigger, maybe more dense. 694 00:24:06,180 --> 00:24:08,180 But it suggests 695 00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:10,180 that there ought to be 696 00:24:10,180 --> 00:24:12,180 a priority on dialogue 697 00:24:12,180 --> 00:24:14,180 between 698 00:24:14,180 --> 00:24:16,180 you all and DCTA. 699 00:24:16,180 --> 00:24:18,180 I don't know, is the point, I guess maybe the 700 00:24:18,180 --> 00:24:20,180 point of 701 00:24:20,180 --> 00:24:22,180 contact is maybe us 702 00:24:22,180 --> 00:24:24,180 or me, specifically. I'm on both. 703 00:24:24,180 --> 00:24:26,180 I think, I'm going to pretend maybe as well. 704 00:24:26,180 --> 00:24:28,180 But I don't know if that 705 00:24:28,180 --> 00:24:30,180 consideration is 706 00:24:30,180 --> 00:24:32,180 in conversation. I think that that's 707 00:24:32,180 --> 00:24:34,180 the ability. 708 00:24:34,180 --> 00:24:36,180 I think that that's going to be something that's front and center 709 00:24:36,180 --> 00:24:38,180 with the regional conversation as well 710 00:24:38,180 --> 00:24:40,180 with the regional greenhouse gas inventory. 711 00:24:40,180 --> 00:24:42,180 And as we have the regional inventory 712 00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:44,180 and also all of the other participating 713 00:24:44,180 --> 00:24:46,180 cities in the area, I think some solutions 714 00:24:46,180 --> 00:24:48,180 are going to come about. And I 715 00:24:48,180 --> 00:24:50,180 think the COG can be potentially 716 00:24:50,180 --> 00:24:52,180 a good contact point for that as well. 717 00:24:52,180 --> 00:24:54,180 Well, I would just 718 00:24:54,180 --> 00:24:56,180 put that on your 719 00:24:56,180 --> 00:24:58,180 radar that they're talking about 720 00:24:58,180 --> 00:25:00,180 going from fixed route to on demand 721 00:25:00,180 --> 00:25:02,180 for many 722 00:25:02,180 --> 00:25:04,180 valid and interesting reasons, but 723 00:25:04,180 --> 00:25:06,180 a priority on electrifying 724 00:25:06,180 --> 00:25:08,180 that fleet should be 725 00:25:08,180 --> 00:25:10,180 expressed. I was curious 726 00:25:10,180 --> 00:25:12,180 to whatever extent remote work is a contributor. 727 00:25:12,180 --> 00:25:14,180 If it's a third of 728 00:25:14,180 --> 00:25:16,180 the impact on a third of the 729 00:25:16,180 --> 00:25:18,180 traffic, that's 730 00:25:18,180 --> 00:25:20,180 not nothing. 731 00:25:20,180 --> 00:25:22,180 Do you have any thoughts policy wise 732 00:25:22,180 --> 00:25:24,180 on how we can create 733 00:25:24,180 --> 00:25:26,180 conditions that encourage remote work? 734 00:25:26,180 --> 00:25:28,180 Because it does strike me as one of those 735 00:25:28,180 --> 00:25:30,180 things that might fit under 736 00:25:30,180 --> 00:25:32,180 the asterisk. 737 00:25:32,180 --> 00:25:34,180 Councilmember Davis mentioned 738 00:25:34,180 --> 00:25:36,180 what role would the city play? 739 00:25:36,180 --> 00:25:38,180 Do you have any thoughts on what roles 740 00:25:38,180 --> 00:25:40,180 cities have played 741 00:25:40,180 --> 00:25:42,180 or could play? I think that that's 742 00:25:42,180 --> 00:25:44,180 definitely right 743 00:25:44,180 --> 00:25:46,180 in one of the asterisk 744 00:25:46,180 --> 00:25:48,180 areas where 745 00:25:48,180 --> 00:25:50,180 we may have some sphere of 746 00:25:50,180 --> 00:25:52,180 influence in terms of education 747 00:25:52,180 --> 00:25:54,180 and outreach and encouraging that. 748 00:25:54,180 --> 00:25:56,180 Ultimately, it's going to be something that falls under 749 00:25:56,180 --> 00:25:58,180 the behavior change and sort of 750 00:25:58,180 --> 00:26:00,180 a shift in 751 00:26:00,180 --> 00:26:02,180 the thinking for that. 752 00:26:02,180 --> 00:26:04,180 We can definitely, if that 753 00:26:04,180 --> 00:26:06,180 comes out as one of the 754 00:26:06,180 --> 00:26:08,180 priority items, we can definitely take a deeper 755 00:26:08,180 --> 00:26:10,180 dive in that. But yeah, I agree. I think that 756 00:26:10,180 --> 00:26:12,180 that's one that falls right into 757 00:26:12,180 --> 00:26:14,180 that overlap area. 758 00:26:14,180 --> 00:26:16,180 On the other hand, I don't mean to be 759 00:26:16,180 --> 00:26:18,180 defeatist. 760 00:26:18,180 --> 00:26:20,180 There is something that we can do to create 761 00:26:20,180 --> 00:26:22,180 the conditions. Certainly, 762 00:26:22,180 --> 00:26:24,180 the incentive to do remote work 763 00:26:24,180 --> 00:26:26,180 is 764 00:26:26,180 --> 00:26:28,180 making it a 765 00:26:28,180 --> 00:26:30,180 livable and attractive place. 766 00:26:30,180 --> 00:26:32,180 That's a little soft, but 767 00:26:32,180 --> 00:26:34,180 we've talked about that in our economic development 768 00:26:34,180 --> 00:26:36,180 conversations. 769 00:26:36,180 --> 00:26:38,180 One last point. 770 00:26:38,180 --> 00:26:40,180 On the residential energy 771 00:26:40,180 --> 00:26:42,180 side, 772 00:26:42,180 --> 00:26:44,180 one of the things that kept 773 00:26:44,180 --> 00:26:46,180 coming up, or at least 774 00:26:46,180 --> 00:26:48,180 occurring to me when we were talking about 775 00:26:48,180 --> 00:26:50,180 issues the city had during the storm 776 00:26:50,180 --> 00:26:52,180 was 777 00:26:52,180 --> 00:26:54,180 we had same kind of pipes freezing 778 00:26:54,180 --> 00:26:56,180 as people had in the residences. 779 00:26:56,180 --> 00:27:00,180 I don't know that we have 780 00:27:00,180 --> 00:27:02,180 built to 781 00:27:02,180 --> 00:27:04,180 include 782 00:27:04,180 --> 00:27:06,180 high degrees of insulation. 783 00:27:06,180 --> 00:27:08,180 I asked about what our current 784 00:27:08,180 --> 00:27:10,180 standards are, and I believe new construction 785 00:27:10,180 --> 00:27:12,180 does require, 786 00:27:12,180 --> 00:27:14,180 worth checking again, 787 00:27:14,180 --> 00:27:16,180 does require 788 00:27:16,180 --> 00:27:18,180 a good amount of insulation. 789 00:27:18,180 --> 00:27:20,180 But I wonder what we could do to create 790 00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:22,180 incentives 791 00:27:22,180 --> 00:27:24,180 if this is 792 00:27:24,180 --> 00:27:26,180 kind of worth it from a sustainability 793 00:27:26,180 --> 00:27:28,180 point of view. 794 00:27:28,180 --> 00:27:30,180 Incentives to better insulate existing 795 00:27:30,180 --> 00:27:32,180 homes. 796 00:27:32,180 --> 00:27:34,180 Gotcha. If there's anybody on that would 797 00:27:34,180 --> 00:27:36,180 want to jump in on that one, I would be 798 00:27:36,180 --> 00:27:40,180 welcoming of that. If not, I can definitely get 799 00:27:40,180 --> 00:27:42,180 back to you on that one 800 00:27:42,180 --> 00:27:44,180 at a later time, but I will definitely make a note of 801 00:27:44,180 --> 00:27:46,180 that. 802 00:27:46,180 --> 00:27:48,180 I think it could make a big difference. 803 00:27:48,180 --> 00:27:50,180 Absolutely. 804 00:27:50,180 --> 00:27:52,180 Well, I'm 805 00:27:52,180 --> 00:27:54,180 really excited about 806 00:27:54,180 --> 00:27:56,180 the advisory committee 807 00:27:56,180 --> 00:27:58,180 meeting. I think it's a real blue star, 808 00:27:58,180 --> 00:28:00,180 blue ribbon 809 00:28:00,180 --> 00:28:02,180 kind of assembly of folks. 810 00:28:02,180 --> 00:28:04,180 I think they're going to help us a lot. I hope you 811 00:28:04,180 --> 00:28:06,180 posted to allow for 812 00:28:06,180 --> 00:28:10,180 a very rich 813 00:28:10,180 --> 00:28:12,180 exploratory exchange. 814 00:28:12,180 --> 00:28:14,180 Not just presentation and 815 00:28:14,180 --> 00:28:16,180 response, but I think we'll let them talk to each 816 00:28:16,180 --> 00:28:18,180 other. They'll come up with good stuff. 817 00:28:18,180 --> 00:28:20,180 Yeah, I think that we're very excited 818 00:28:20,180 --> 00:28:22,180 for the input that we're going to get there. 819 00:28:22,180 --> 00:28:24,180 And yeah, looking forward to 820 00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:26,180 a collaborative process for sure. 821 00:28:26,180 --> 00:28:28,180 We're excited. 822 00:28:28,180 --> 00:28:30,180 Anything else for staff? 823 00:28:30,180 --> 00:28:32,180 Thank you. 824 00:28:32,180 --> 00:28:34,180 I kind of developed a question on the 825 00:28:34,180 --> 00:28:36,180 residential energy. 826 00:28:36,180 --> 00:28:38,180 Just kind of comparing 827 00:28:38,180 --> 00:28:40,180 the two graphs, it looks like with our 828 00:28:40,180 --> 00:28:42,180 mitigation strategies we've already kind 829 00:28:42,180 --> 00:28:44,180 of factored in. 830 00:28:44,180 --> 00:28:46,180 We drop about a quarter million metric 831 00:28:46,180 --> 00:28:48,180 tons in the residential energy. 832 00:28:48,180 --> 00:28:50,180 And I'm wondering, first, 833 00:28:50,180 --> 00:28:52,180 because two-parter, I'm curious about what 834 00:28:52,180 --> 00:28:54,180 assumptions we're building into. We know there's 835 00:28:54,180 --> 00:28:56,180 population growth, obviously. We know that people 836 00:28:56,180 --> 00:28:58,180 have to live in houses and people are going to 837 00:28:58,180 --> 00:29:00,180 it's going to be economically advantageous 838 00:29:00,180 --> 00:29:02,180 to keep building houses 839 00:29:02,180 --> 00:29:04,180 in Denton, we expect. So we expect 840 00:29:04,180 --> 00:29:06,180 that people are going to keep building houses. 841 00:29:06,180 --> 00:29:08,180 But what other assumptions 842 00:29:08,180 --> 00:29:10,180 are we kind of building in? 843 00:29:10,180 --> 00:29:12,180 Are we, do we 844 00:29:12,180 --> 00:29:14,180 notice a particular trend in whether those are 845 00:29:14,180 --> 00:29:16,180 all electric houses or whether they're 846 00:29:16,180 --> 00:29:18,180 gas and electric? 847 00:29:18,180 --> 00:29:20,180 Are we factoring in, you know, I think 848 00:29:20,180 --> 00:29:22,180 council will probably consider 849 00:29:22,180 --> 00:29:24,180 the 2021 building codes at some 850 00:29:24,180 --> 00:29:26,180 point in the near future. And those are 851 00:29:26,180 --> 00:29:28,180 the updates, I understand 852 00:29:28,180 --> 00:29:30,180 them, have a lot to do with energy efficiency 853 00:29:30,180 --> 00:29:32,180 for new construction. 854 00:29:32,180 --> 00:29:34,180 So how are we, what assumptions 855 00:29:34,180 --> 00:29:36,180 are we building in? And 856 00:29:36,180 --> 00:29:38,180 are there more things that 857 00:29:38,180 --> 00:29:40,180 maybe coming down the pipe later on, for instance, 858 00:29:40,180 --> 00:29:42,180 a big all-electric 859 00:29:42,180 --> 00:29:44,180 subdivision that'll change 860 00:29:44,180 --> 00:29:46,180 the metrics or 861 00:29:46,180 --> 00:29:48,180 the building codes coming in? Will that 862 00:29:48,180 --> 00:29:50,180 kind of change where the graph looks like? 863 00:29:50,180 --> 00:29:52,180 Definitely. And that's a great question. 864 00:29:52,180 --> 00:29:54,180 And so I can speak to the forecast itself. 865 00:29:54,180 --> 00:29:56,180 And so one of the things that we didn't talk about 866 00:29:56,180 --> 00:29:58,180 as much today that can influence that 867 00:29:58,180 --> 00:30:00,180 and it's not so much from 868 00:30:00,180 --> 00:30:02,180 a reduction strategy standpoint. 869 00:30:02,180 --> 00:30:04,180 It's more, as you're saying, from 870 00:30:04,180 --> 00:30:06,180 an altering the forecast 871 00:30:06,180 --> 00:30:08,180 standpoint. So right now we have current 872 00:30:08,180 --> 00:30:10,180 residential 873 00:30:10,180 --> 00:30:12,180 density items 874 00:30:12,180 --> 00:30:14,180 built in. And those are from the Denton 2030 875 00:30:14,180 --> 00:30:16,180 plan. And so as that plan gets updated 876 00:30:16,180 --> 00:30:18,180 with the Denton 2040, 877 00:30:18,180 --> 00:30:20,180 we can take and incorporate those 878 00:30:20,180 --> 00:30:22,180 new residential 879 00:30:22,180 --> 00:30:24,180 development and residential density 880 00:30:24,180 --> 00:30:26,180 metrics. And we'll incorporate those and we'll 881 00:30:26,180 --> 00:30:28,180 update the model there. 882 00:30:28,180 --> 00:30:30,180 What is currently built in there 883 00:30:30,180 --> 00:30:32,180 for electric versus natural gas 884 00:30:32,180 --> 00:30:34,180 is a continuation 885 00:30:34,180 --> 00:30:36,180 of the current ratio 886 00:30:36,180 --> 00:30:38,180 of those. So if that were to change, 887 00:30:38,180 --> 00:30:40,180 then we could update 888 00:30:40,180 --> 00:30:42,180 that in the forecast itself. And 889 00:30:42,180 --> 00:30:44,180 so that would not be so much of a reduction 890 00:30:44,180 --> 00:30:46,180 strategy as much as a change in 891 00:30:46,180 --> 00:30:48,180 what the business as usual 892 00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:50,180 would look like. And I think that that's kind of 893 00:30:50,180 --> 00:30:52,180 what you were getting at with the question. 894 00:30:52,180 --> 00:30:54,180 And so that does have 895 00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:56,180 the capability to be influenced. 896 00:30:56,180 --> 00:30:58,180 Do we know or do we 897 00:30:58,180 --> 00:31:00,180 track kind of trends? You know, are there 898 00:31:00,180 --> 00:31:02,180 I just 899 00:31:02,180 --> 00:31:04,180 haven't paid close attention with some of our 900 00:31:04,180 --> 00:31:06,180 larger subdivisions coming in. If they 901 00:31:06,180 --> 00:31:08,180 tend to be all electric or if they tend 902 00:31:08,180 --> 00:31:10,180 to be a mix, 903 00:31:10,180 --> 00:31:12,180 do we track 904 00:31:12,180 --> 00:31:14,180 that kind of thing? So we have. 905 00:31:14,180 --> 00:31:16,180 We've gone about it in a way of 906 00:31:16,180 --> 00:31:18,180 sort of pairing a couple 907 00:31:18,180 --> 00:31:20,180 different data sets to create that 908 00:31:20,180 --> 00:31:22,180 metric. So we do have that for 909 00:31:22,180 --> 00:31:24,180 the past couple years. And there's also 910 00:31:24,180 --> 00:31:26,180 US Census data 911 00:31:26,180 --> 00:31:28,180 that can give us an idea of 912 00:31:28,180 --> 00:31:30,180 if we were going for a national 913 00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:32,180 average or a Texas average 914 00:31:32,180 --> 00:31:34,180 on those things, we also have those to compare to. 915 00:31:34,180 --> 00:31:36,180 And so that's a metric 916 00:31:36,180 --> 00:31:38,180 that we recently developed. And so we do 917 00:31:38,180 --> 00:31:40,180 we do have that capability. 918 00:31:40,180 --> 00:31:42,180 I would think that'd be interesting to the city 919 00:31:42,180 --> 00:31:44,180 not just from an environmental standpoint, but 920 00:31:44,180 --> 00:31:46,180 also as a electricity 921 00:31:46,180 --> 00:31:48,180 provider. So 922 00:31:48,180 --> 00:31:50,180 if there's a way to kind of report that back 923 00:31:50,180 --> 00:31:52,180 to us 924 00:31:52,180 --> 00:31:54,180 kind of what the current trends are, 925 00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:56,180 whether we need to take 926 00:31:56,180 --> 00:31:58,180 any action on that or not, just what the 927 00:31:58,180 --> 00:32:00,180 trends are so we're aware of them and know what they are. 928 00:32:00,180 --> 00:32:06,180 Definitely. 929 00:32:06,180 --> 00:32:10,180 Another 930 00:32:10,180 --> 00:32:12,180 question occurred to me as we were talking 931 00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:14,180 here. Can you help point out 932 00:32:14,180 --> 00:32:16,180 what components 933 00:32:16,180 --> 00:32:18,180 of the mobility plan 934 00:32:18,180 --> 00:32:20,180 you think most 935 00:32:20,180 --> 00:32:22,180 will weigh on this analysis? 936 00:32:22,180 --> 00:32:26,180 So that 937 00:32:26,180 --> 00:32:28,180 was largely a collaboration 938 00:32:28,180 --> 00:32:30,180 between IGLI and 939 00:32:30,180 --> 00:32:32,180 also some of the 940 00:32:32,180 --> 00:32:34,180 consultants last year from 941 00:32:34,180 --> 00:32:36,180 the mobility plan drafting. 942 00:32:36,180 --> 00:32:38,180 My best understanding is that it's the 943 00:32:38,180 --> 00:32:40,180 same sort of factors 944 00:32:40,180 --> 00:32:42,180 that we take a look at now. So 945 00:32:42,180 --> 00:32:44,180 what is going to be the change in vehicle 946 00:32:44,180 --> 00:32:46,180 miles traveled, but also what's going to be 947 00:32:46,180 --> 00:32:48,180 the 948 00:32:48,180 --> 00:32:50,180 change in 949 00:32:50,180 --> 00:32:52,180 trip length 950 00:32:52,180 --> 00:32:54,180 time on the road, things like 951 00:32:54,180 --> 00:32:56,180 that. And so if you have 952 00:32:56,180 --> 00:32:58,180 better flow, you're 953 00:32:58,180 --> 00:33:00,180 not going to be on the road as long. The vehicle miles 954 00:33:00,180 --> 00:33:02,180 traveled may be the same, of 955 00:33:02,180 --> 00:33:04,180 course, but you're not going to be idling as much. 956 00:33:04,180 --> 00:33:06,180 So those were taken into 957 00:33:06,180 --> 00:33:08,180 those were taken into account. 958 00:33:08,180 --> 00:33:10,180 They're going to be rough estimations 959 00:33:10,180 --> 00:33:12,180 for the purposes of the forecast. 960 00:33:12,180 --> 00:33:14,180 But those conversations were had 961 00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:16,180 between our two consulting 962 00:33:16,180 --> 00:33:18,180 groups. So congestion 963 00:33:18,180 --> 00:33:20,180 is correct. Yes. Thank you. 964 00:33:20,180 --> 00:33:22,180 Of course, there's a long standing 965 00:33:22,180 --> 00:33:24,180 critique of 966 00:33:24,180 --> 00:33:26,180 road expansion to 967 00:33:26,180 --> 00:33:28,180 relief congestion that it's ultimately 968 00:33:28,180 --> 00:33:30,180 futile 969 00:33:30,180 --> 00:33:32,180 because you encourage development and 970 00:33:32,180 --> 00:33:34,180 you're just 971 00:33:34,180 --> 00:33:36,180 kind of always playing catch up there. 972 00:33:36,180 --> 00:33:38,180 Anything 973 00:33:38,180 --> 00:33:40,180 else for staff? 974 00:33:40,180 --> 00:33:42,180 Thank you so much 975 00:33:42,180 --> 00:33:44,180 for this. I really look forward to the new data 976 00:33:44,180 --> 00:33:46,180 set. It's a little weird to be in 977 00:33:46,180 --> 00:33:48,180 2021 to continue to look back 978 00:33:48,180 --> 00:33:50,180 at three-year-old 979 00:33:50,180 --> 00:33:52,180 analysis, but 980 00:33:52,180 --> 00:33:54,180 I feel like we're on the verge of something that 981 00:33:54,180 --> 00:33:56,180 could be very important. And I 982 00:33:56,180 --> 00:33:58,180 will say with that, too, the 983 00:33:58,180 --> 00:34:00,180 we have the 2019 data. Obviously, the 2020 984 00:34:00,180 --> 00:34:02,180 data is coming, but the 2019 data is 985 00:34:02,180 --> 00:34:04,180 tracking well with the 986 00:34:04,180 --> 00:34:06,180 estimate that we currently have. And so we felt comfortable 987 00:34:06,180 --> 00:34:08,180 with that. 988 00:34:08,180 --> 00:34:10,180 Okay, great. 989 00:34:10,180 --> 00:34:12,180 Thank you. 990 00:34:12,180 --> 00:34:14,180 Let's move on to item C, management 991 00:34:14,180 --> 00:34:16,180 reports, one green business 992 00:34:16,180 --> 00:34:18,180 program update. 993 00:34:18,180 --> 00:34:20,180 Who's got that? 994 00:34:20,180 --> 00:34:24,180 I can go ahead and take 995 00:34:24,180 --> 00:34:26,180 the lead on that as well. So we just 996 00:34:26,180 --> 00:34:28,180 wanted to give a brief update 997 00:34:28,180 --> 00:34:30,180 regarding the green business program. 998 00:34:30,180 --> 00:34:32,180 And so 999 00:34:32,180 --> 00:34:34,180 we're getting to the point 1000 00:34:34,180 --> 00:34:36,180 now where we can 1001 00:34:36,180 --> 00:34:38,180 kind of feel comfortable reaching out to businesses 1002 00:34:38,180 --> 00:34:40,180 and things are getting a little bit more 1003 00:34:40,180 --> 00:34:42,180 predictable. And so 1004 00:34:42,180 --> 00:34:44,180 we're really hoping to 1005 00:34:44,180 --> 00:34:46,180 take some things that we learned from the first 1006 00:34:46,180 --> 00:34:48,180 year of the program and really 1007 00:34:48,180 --> 00:34:50,180 start this 1008 00:34:50,180 --> 00:34:52,180 upcoming year with 1009 00:34:52,180 --> 00:34:54,180 some new things. So a couple of 1010 00:34:54,180 --> 00:34:56,180 the changes that we're going to make based on 1011 00:34:56,180 --> 00:34:58,180 the feedback that we got. 1012 00:34:58,180 --> 00:35:00,180 The application, we're going to take a more open-ended 1013 00:35:00,180 --> 00:35:02,180 approach to that, which we're pretty excited 1014 00:35:02,180 --> 00:35:04,180 about. So we realized that the 1015 00:35:04,180 --> 00:35:06,180 previous application was a little bit 1016 00:35:06,180 --> 00:35:08,180 restrictive in terms of what it 1017 00:35:08,180 --> 00:35:10,180 was asking of the businesses. And so it may not 1018 00:35:10,180 --> 00:35:12,180 be applicable to everybody. And so with 1019 00:35:12,180 --> 00:35:14,180 the new open-ended approach, what we're really hoping 1020 00:35:14,180 --> 00:35:16,180 to get is to hear more from the businesses 1021 00:35:16,180 --> 00:35:18,180 about what they're doing in each of those categories. 1022 00:35:18,180 --> 00:35:20,180 And it goes hand in hand, of course, with the sustainability 1023 00:35:20,180 --> 00:35:22,180 framework key focus areas. 1024 00:35:22,180 --> 00:35:24,180 And so we're really looking to hear 1025 00:35:24,180 --> 00:35:26,180 more from the businesses. And so we've got 1026 00:35:26,180 --> 00:35:28,180 that open-ended approach coming. And we're 1027 00:35:28,180 --> 00:35:30,180 also looking forward to 1028 00:35:30,180 --> 00:35:32,180 taking a look at the possibility of a cohort. 1029 00:35:32,180 --> 00:35:34,180 So basically 1030 00:35:34,180 --> 00:35:36,180 having 10 to 15 1031 00:35:36,180 --> 00:35:38,180 businesses who want to learn something 1032 00:35:38,180 --> 00:35:40,180 specific, whether that be 1033 00:35:40,180 --> 00:35:42,180 something that we're looking at first, 1034 00:35:42,180 --> 00:35:44,180 which is sort of an energy management, 1035 00:35:44,180 --> 00:35:46,180 you know, how to read the electric bill, 1036 00:35:46,180 --> 00:35:48,180 what is, 1037 00:35:48,180 --> 00:35:50,180 you know, what's our, 1038 00:35:50,180 --> 00:35:52,180 some of our electricity use 1039 00:35:52,180 --> 00:35:54,180 coming from, things like that. 1040 00:35:54,180 --> 00:35:56,180 And so really hoping to 1041 00:35:56,180 --> 00:35:58,180 have some more added value 1042 00:35:58,180 --> 00:36:00,180 for the businesses that join the program. 1043 00:36:00,180 --> 00:36:02,180 And so we're looking forward to 1044 00:36:02,180 --> 00:36:04,180 taking a look at that cohort option 1045 00:36:04,180 --> 00:36:06,180 as well. And so it's kind of where we're 1046 00:36:06,180 --> 00:36:08,180 at with that. Like I said, when things 1047 00:36:08,180 --> 00:36:10,180 start progressively getting more 1048 00:36:10,180 --> 00:36:12,180 predictable for businesses, we'll start 1049 00:36:12,180 --> 00:36:14,180 reaching out. And we'll also give those businesses 1050 00:36:14,180 --> 00:36:16,180 that took the opportunity to join during our 1051 00:36:16,180 --> 00:36:18,180 first year. We'll give them sort 1052 00:36:18,180 --> 00:36:20,180 of first chance at that cohort if that's 1053 00:36:20,180 --> 00:36:22,180 something that they're interested in learning about. So 1054 00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:24,180 that's where we're at. And if there's 1055 00:36:24,180 --> 00:36:26,180 any questions with that, I'm happy to answer 1056 00:36:26,180 --> 00:36:28,180 those as well. 1057 00:36:28,180 --> 00:36:30,180 Questions? 1058 00:36:30,180 --> 00:36:32,180 No? Thank you. 1059 00:36:32,180 --> 00:36:34,180 Thanks. You know, it's a great 1060 00:36:34,180 --> 00:36:36,180 program to talk about. I really want to see it back 1061 00:36:36,180 --> 00:36:38,180 up on its feet. For sure. You know, 1062 00:36:38,180 --> 00:36:40,180 perfect thing, 1063 00:36:40,180 --> 00:36:42,180 perfect things that everyone can align on. It's green and it's 1064 00:36:42,180 --> 00:36:44,180 business. 1065 00:36:44,180 --> 00:36:46,180 New business action items, Matrix. 1066 00:36:46,180 --> 00:36:48,180 Did you want to go through that as well? 1067 00:36:48,180 --> 00:36:54,180 Item two. 1068 00:36:54,180 --> 00:37:00,180 I don't know who I'm asking. 1069 00:37:00,180 --> 00:37:02,180 Who's got that? Is that you, 1070 00:37:02,180 --> 00:37:04,180 Catherine? 1071 00:37:04,180 --> 00:37:06,180 I'll take that. I think the only thing we have left 1072 00:37:06,180 --> 00:37:08,180 on the Matrix right now is the 1073 00:37:08,180 --> 00:37:10,180 mosquito update. 1074 00:37:10,180 --> 00:37:12,180 And Deborah will be 1075 00:37:12,180 --> 00:37:14,180 bringing that back in the next month or so. 1076 00:37:14,180 --> 00:37:20,180 Items that 1077 00:37:20,180 --> 00:37:22,180 committee members would like to add? 1078 00:37:22,180 --> 00:37:24,180 Anything at the moment? 1079 00:37:24,180 --> 00:37:28,180 I've got one. Go ahead. 1080 00:37:28,180 --> 00:37:32,180 I was just going to say, I'm looking forward to the 1081 00:37:32,180 --> 00:37:34,180 committee meeting. And as you said, 1082 00:37:34,180 --> 00:37:36,180 I hope that they're posted broadly enough. 1083 00:37:36,180 --> 00:37:38,180 That's a really good point. I hope that 1084 00:37:38,180 --> 00:37:40,180 posting is broad enough that 1085 00:37:40,180 --> 00:37:42,180 some of those things will trickle up 1086 00:37:42,180 --> 00:37:44,180 to us, right? That this committee 1087 00:37:44,180 --> 00:37:46,180 will end up talking about some 1088 00:37:46,180 --> 00:37:48,180 things that they think up. 1089 00:37:48,180 --> 00:37:52,180 Absolutely. 1090 00:37:52,180 --> 00:37:54,180 Is there a thought 1091 00:37:54,180 --> 00:37:56,180 right now about 1092 00:37:56,180 --> 00:37:58,180 how their meetings will be structured in terms of 1093 00:37:58,180 --> 00:38:00,180 moving through the sustainability 1094 00:38:00,180 --> 00:38:02,180 framework? 1095 00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:04,180 Are you going to focus on 1096 00:38:04,180 --> 00:38:06,180 certain areas? 1097 00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:08,180 Or sort of everything all at once? 1098 00:38:08,180 --> 00:38:10,180 I think we'll probably start with a broad 1099 00:38:10,180 --> 00:38:12,180 overview and then tackle each focus 1100 00:38:12,180 --> 00:38:14,180 area. I know there's going to be 1101 00:38:14,180 --> 00:38:16,180 a big emphasis right now on the greenhouse 1102 00:38:16,180 --> 00:38:18,180 gas cemetery with the regional 1103 00:38:18,180 --> 00:38:20,180 greenhouse gas efforts and air quality 1104 00:38:20,180 --> 00:38:22,180 efforts. 1105 00:38:22,180 --> 00:38:24,180 Probably start with that chapter. 1106 00:38:24,180 --> 00:38:26,180 And then also 1107 00:38:26,180 --> 00:38:28,180 a lot of the members will be up 1108 00:38:28,180 --> 00:38:30,180 to speed, I think, on a lot of things 1109 00:38:30,180 --> 00:38:32,180 that are going on around town. 1110 00:38:32,180 --> 00:38:34,180 We'll probably do a little bit on the resilience 1111 00:38:34,180 --> 00:38:36,180 and some of the things 1112 00:38:36,180 --> 00:38:38,180 we experience with the winter storm. 1113 00:38:38,180 --> 00:38:40,180 Sounds good. 1114 00:38:40,180 --> 00:38:42,180 I have an item to add. 1115 00:38:42,180 --> 00:38:44,180 Could we get an update on 1116 00:38:44,180 --> 00:38:46,180 the Denton County Green Belt Plan 1117 00:38:46,180 --> 00:38:48,180 and 1118 00:38:48,180 --> 00:38:50,180 sort of 1119 00:38:50,180 --> 00:38:52,180 more broadly 1120 00:38:52,180 --> 00:38:54,180 about what steps we might take to 1121 00:38:54,180 --> 00:38:56,180 bring more of our riparian areas 1122 00:38:56,180 --> 00:38:58,180 into protected status. 1123 00:38:58,180 --> 00:39:00,180 And then 1124 00:39:00,180 --> 00:39:02,180 back to specifically the green 1125 00:39:02,180 --> 00:39:04,180 belt. I'd like to know whether you 1126 00:39:04,180 --> 00:39:06,180 think it's a good idea or a bad idea 1127 00:39:06,180 --> 00:39:08,180 to leave more 1128 00:39:08,180 --> 00:39:10,180 of an unmowed area 1129 00:39:10,180 --> 00:39:12,180 between the stream of the creek 1130 00:39:12,180 --> 00:39:14,180 and the mowed portion. It looks like we're 1131 00:39:14,180 --> 00:39:16,180 getting input from 1132 00:39:16,180 --> 00:39:18,180 members of the community that we're mowing right up to the bank's 1133 00:39:18,180 --> 00:39:20,180 edge. And it might be wise 1134 00:39:20,180 --> 00:39:22,180 not to do that. So I'd be interested in 1135 00:39:22,180 --> 00:39:24,180 not at this second but, you know, in your thoughtful 1136 00:39:24,180 --> 00:39:26,180 consideration of that. 1137 00:39:28,180 --> 00:39:30,180 We'll touch 1138 00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:32,180 the face of parks and drainage on that. 1139 00:39:32,180 --> 00:39:38,180 I think that covers us for new business. 1140 00:39:38,180 --> 00:39:40,180 Actually, you know what? 1141 00:39:40,180 --> 00:39:42,180 Well, that could have been under concluding items too. 1142 00:39:42,180 --> 00:39:44,180 Take your pick. 1143 00:39:44,180 --> 00:39:46,180 So now we're on concluding items. 1144 00:39:46,180 --> 00:39:48,180 Any other concluding items? 1145 00:39:48,180 --> 00:39:50,180 I have one. 1146 00:39:50,180 --> 00:39:52,180 I don't know if you remember Misty Adams. 1147 00:39:52,180 --> 00:39:54,180 It's been a while. 1148 00:39:54,180 --> 00:39:56,180 She was our residential recycling 1149 00:39:56,180 --> 00:39:58,180 outreach coordinator but we have 1150 00:39:58,180 --> 00:40:00,180 built that position and 1151 00:40:00,180 --> 00:40:02,180 Julissa came on board in January 1152 00:40:02,180 --> 00:40:04,180 and I want to introduce her. 1153 00:40:04,180 --> 00:40:06,180 I think she's going to jump on screen here. 1154 00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:08,180 We'll do a little virtual introduction. 1155 00:40:08,180 --> 00:40:10,180 Julissa is our new residential 1156 00:40:10,180 --> 00:40:12,180 recycling outreach 1157 00:40:12,180 --> 00:40:14,180 coordinator and she has been 1158 00:40:14,180 --> 00:40:16,180 great. She's hit the ground running. 1159 00:40:16,180 --> 00:40:18,180 She came over to us from pretreatment. 1160 00:40:18,180 --> 00:40:20,180 So she already had some good relationships 1161 00:40:20,180 --> 00:40:22,180 in the community and she's hit 1162 00:40:22,180 --> 00:40:24,180 so many apartment complexes talking to them about 1163 00:40:24,180 --> 00:40:26,180 recycling and 1164 00:40:26,180 --> 00:40:28,180 getting recycling totes out. 1165 00:40:28,180 --> 00:40:30,180 So we're excited to have her on board. 1166 00:40:30,180 --> 00:40:32,180 Is that like one of the best jobs in Denton 1167 00:40:32,180 --> 00:40:34,180 that you just say? Good for you. 1168 00:40:34,180 --> 00:40:36,180 I think so. 1169 00:40:36,180 --> 00:40:38,180 So it's nice to meet everyone. My name is 1170 00:40:38,180 --> 00:40:40,180 Julissa Amador. Like Catherine said, 1171 00:40:40,180 --> 00:40:42,180 I worked over in pretreatment 1172 00:40:42,180 --> 00:40:44,180 and I worked under Heather Goins for about 1173 00:40:44,180 --> 00:40:46,180 two years. So I've been here since January 1174 00:40:46,180 --> 00:40:48,180 and I'm excited to be working here 1175 00:40:48,180 --> 00:40:50,180 and working with sustainability. 1176 00:40:50,180 --> 00:40:52,180 But yeah, it is a really great 1177 00:40:52,180 --> 00:40:54,180 job and I'm very excited. I've reached out 1178 00:40:54,180 --> 00:40:56,180 to a lot of apartments, but I do apartment and 1179 00:40:56,180 --> 00:40:58,180 multifamily and residential 1180 00:40:58,180 --> 00:41:00,180 recycling outreach. 1181 00:41:00,180 --> 00:41:02,180 So if there's anything that you guys would like 1182 00:41:02,180 --> 00:41:04,180 to see, please let us know. 1183 00:41:04,180 --> 00:41:06,180 So that's something that I can get 1184 00:41:06,180 --> 00:41:08,180 started on. I'll tell you, I'm 1185 00:41:08,180 --> 00:41:10,180 personally, well first of all, 1186 00:41:10,180 --> 00:41:12,180 super glad that you're on board. 1187 00:41:12,180 --> 00:41:14,180 And I'm very 1188 00:41:14,180 --> 00:41:16,180 eager to 1189 00:41:16,180 --> 00:41:18,180 discover what you learn 1190 00:41:18,180 --> 00:41:20,180 are the best ways 1191 00:41:20,180 --> 00:41:22,180 to keep contamination 1192 00:41:22,180 --> 00:41:24,180 out of the stream in multifamily with an 1193 00:41:24,180 --> 00:41:26,180 eye toward eventually having that be 1194 00:41:26,180 --> 00:41:28,180 you know, as universal 1195 00:41:28,180 --> 00:41:30,180 as single family 1196 00:41:30,180 --> 00:41:32,180 recycling. And 1197 00:41:32,180 --> 00:41:34,180 a thought that I would share 1198 00:41:34,180 --> 00:41:36,180 with you might go nowhere, but 1199 00:41:36,180 --> 00:41:38,180 they seem to have really good results 1200 00:41:38,180 --> 00:41:40,180 with the Concierge 1201 00:41:40,180 --> 00:41:42,180 program with commercial. 1202 00:41:42,180 --> 00:41:44,180 And I wonder if there's 1203 00:41:44,180 --> 00:41:46,180 some element of that that, you know, might 1204 00:41:46,180 --> 00:41:48,180 help kind of crack the nut 1205 00:41:48,180 --> 00:41:50,180 on multifamily. 1206 00:41:50,180 --> 00:41:52,180 Just 1207 00:41:52,180 --> 00:41:54,180 for your consideration. 1208 00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:56,180 Yes. I know that 1209 00:41:56,180 --> 00:41:58,180 for trash valet, it is a little different 1210 00:41:58,180 --> 00:42:00,180 in comparison to what we have for residential. 1211 00:42:00,180 --> 00:42:02,180 But yes, that is something that we can start 1212 00:42:02,180 --> 00:42:04,180 getting worked on, worked on. 1213 00:42:04,180 --> 00:42:06,180 And I have been meeting with HOAs 1214 00:42:06,180 --> 00:42:08,180 and reaching out to them so that they kind 1215 00:42:08,180 --> 00:42:10,180 of put a name to a face. And 1216 00:42:10,180 --> 00:42:12,180 they can reach out to me for whenever 1217 00:42:12,180 --> 00:42:14,180 residents have any questions. Or 1218 00:42:14,180 --> 00:42:16,180 if they just need a new 1219 00:42:16,180 --> 00:42:18,180 kind of info, any kind 1220 00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:20,180 of info that they need updated, any mailers, 1221 00:42:20,180 --> 00:42:22,180 things like that. 1222 00:42:22,180 --> 00:42:24,180 Great. 1223 00:42:24,180 --> 00:42:28,180 Jesse, looks like you have something in your mind that you want to say. 1224 00:42:28,180 --> 00:42:30,180 I guess I don't have a very good poker face. Now, what I was thinking 1225 00:42:30,180 --> 00:42:32,180 about, I guess this is a good concluding item 1226 00:42:32,180 --> 00:42:34,180 too, because Brian's on the line and I can give a shout 1227 00:42:34,180 --> 00:42:36,180 out to Solid Waste and 1228 00:42:36,180 --> 00:42:38,180 that valet program. I was just 1229 00:42:38,180 --> 00:42:40,180 bragging on that program sitting at 1230 00:42:40,180 --> 00:42:42,180 Oak Street Drafthouse 1231 00:42:42,180 --> 00:42:44,180 and the little trash truck comes by 1232 00:42:44,180 --> 00:42:46,180 doing the valet thing 1233 00:42:46,180 --> 00:42:48,180 and somebody said, "What's that tiny little baby 1234 00:42:48,180 --> 00:42:50,180 trash truck?" And I'll tell you what it is. 1235 00:42:50,180 --> 00:42:52,180 It's the wave of the future. It's how you take care of solid 1236 00:42:52,180 --> 00:42:54,180 waste in a dense urban 1237 00:42:54,180 --> 00:42:56,180 environment with a healthy night life. 1238 00:42:56,180 --> 00:42:58,180 And so that's my concluding 1239 00:42:58,180 --> 00:43:00,180 item. Shout out to the valet 1240 00:43:00,180 --> 00:43:02,180 solid waste service. Fantastic. 1241 00:43:02,180 --> 00:43:04,180 Yes. Great. 1242 00:43:04,180 --> 00:43:06,180 Any other concluding items? 1243 00:43:06,180 --> 00:43:08,180 Then we shall conclude. 1244 00:43:08,180 --> 00:43:10,180 I will 1245 00:43:10,180 --> 00:43:12,180 adjourn this meeting 1246 00:43:12,180 --> 00:43:14,680 - At 944. 1247 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:15,520 - Thank you. 1248 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:16,340 - Okay.