WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:12.240 Okay, good morning, everybody. This is the regularly scheduled monthly meeting of the 00:00:12.240 --> 00:00:18.840 Board of Ethics about 1001, and we'll begin. We'll just jump right into it. And the first 00:00:18.840 --> 00:00:28.680 item for consideration is receive nominations and hold an election for chair and vice chair. 00:00:28.680 --> 00:00:34.680 And I think I might ask Trayor Madison how it works. I guess it's we do chair first and 00:00:34.680 --> 00:00:44.580 then move on to vice chair. Okay. All right. So I will open up, open up to nominations. 00:00:44.580 --> 00:01:02.340 I nominate you. Okay. All right. Is there any discussion? Not seeing any un-muting 00:01:02.340 --> 00:01:11.140 or hands. So I guess I'll take a vote on the motion for me to continue as chair. And by 00:01:11.140 --> 00:01:16.480 the way, so I was elected in the middle of 2019 and then 2020 came when we would usually 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:20.560 have elections in the beginning of the year, but COVID happened. And then we were going 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:27.800 to have elections in January, but we were waiting for all the, all the appointments. 00:01:27.800 --> 00:01:32.680 And so that's why we're now in March. I promise I'm not like trying to like stronghold the 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:37.920 power if anybody else wants it. But I just wanted to make that clear that I, you know, 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:42.040 that's why we're here. The nomination, we've only had one election in almost, you know, 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:54.080 two years or so. Anyway, I will hold a vote and starting with Bob. Aye. Ronnie. Aye. Rob. 00:01:54.080 --> 00:02:05.320 Thumbs up. Patricia. Aye. Annetta. I think she said aye, but you're muted. You just give 00:02:05.320 --> 00:02:17.840 a thumbs up or a aye. Okay. Oh, you unmuted and unmuted again. Annetta, unmuted and then 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:27.960 muted again. And we didn't hear a vote. Sorry. Aye. Okay. All right. So we got that. I'll 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:33.880 just abstain. I feel weird voting for myself, but the motion passes. Laura, I forgot our 00:02:33.880 --> 00:02:40.960 newest member. Oh, I'm sorry. Dustin, our newest member. Aye. Well, wow. Still voted 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:47.960 for me, even though I forgot about you. Thanks. Okay. So I think, I think the, the motion 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:55.960 passes and I guess I'll, I'll be chair until next year after appointment when we'll have 00:02:55.960 --> 00:03:03.640 another election. And now I'll ask for nominations for vice chair. I know last year we had Sharla 00:03:03.640 --> 00:03:07.560 I don't know if I'll be nominating her again. Like I think she does a good job, but I know 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:13.000 that she has, you know, during the day meetings are hard, I believe because of her work. And 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:19.040 I understand I've missed a couple over COVID because of work meetings. So I'll open up 00:03:19.040 --> 00:03:28.120 the floor for nominations for vice chair. I would like to nominate, to renominate Sharla 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:35.160 if she's, if she would be open to it. I guess I'm not sure. Are there any rules Madison 00:03:35.160 --> 00:03:43.560 or Trey about someone that's not currently present being nominated? I'm not aware of 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:47.760 a rule that says that they have to be present to be nominated. So long as they're a full 00:03:47.760 --> 00:03:52.600 member of the board. Yeah. I've always been told if you're not there, get ready. That's 00:03:52.600 --> 00:04:01.320 what I was thinking. Yeah. And I second the motion. Okay. So the motion, we have a motion, 00:04:01.320 --> 00:04:06.320 we have a second. I'll say, I mean, I think she does a good job. My only concern is making 00:04:06.320 --> 00:04:10.400 meetings, but I think, honestly, I think a lot of us have missed, you know, I don't know 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:13.480 if any of us have made it every single meeting during COVID just because it is during the 00:04:13.480 --> 00:04:17.560 day. And I think most of us, it's not all of us still work. Madison, did you raise your 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:22.560 hand? Yeah. I was just going to say if you do elect Sharla and she does not want to 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:27.400 continue, we could just, if she lets us know that, then we could just have another election 00:04:27.400 --> 00:04:32.760 next meeting if need be. Okay. That sounds like a plan. Is there any more discussion 00:04:32.760 --> 00:04:38.800 on Sharla? And I'll just chime in that, right. If somebody were here, they could always decline 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:43.160 the nomination. She's not here to decline the nomination, but she could always not accept 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:49.920 it later and we can bring it back. Okay. Thank you, Trey. And thank you, Madison. Any more 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:56.600 discussion or should we move to voting? Not seeing anybody jump in. All right. We'll move 00:04:56.600 --> 00:05:08.480 to voting. Bob? Aye. And myself, Laura Tomlin, I vote aye. Ronnie? Aye. Rob? Yes. Dustin? 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:19.480 Aye. Patricia? Aye. And Annetta? Aye. Okay. So we have a vice chair elected. And like 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:25.740 they said, if she doesn't want it, we'll just hold another vote next meeting. Okay. Next 00:05:25.740 --> 00:05:34.760 on the agenda is the discussion about, I'm going to share my screen real quick. Discussion 00:05:34.760 --> 00:05:49.080 about the 2021 meeting schedule. So in the past, we've had meetings the last Thursday 00:05:49.080 --> 00:05:53.680 of every month. And before COVID, we would have them, I think about 5, 5.30 at night. 00:05:53.680 --> 00:06:00.680 Well, now we have to have them between 9 a.m. and 3 for the start time and any day except 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:07.040 Tuesday. I would say we just keep going with the last Thursday of the month. And I would, 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:13.120 oh, go ahead, Madison. I just, as a point of order on there, on where it says future 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:18.320 meeting dates, June 25th, it should be June 24th. That would be the last Thursday. It's 00:06:18.320 --> 00:06:28.000 just a typo. Oh, okay. Thank you. As I was saying, I, you know, I don't, I guess any 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:32.960 days is probably, you know, I would guess probably not Fridays are good, but any other 00:06:32.960 --> 00:06:38.240 day seems okay. I would say start at three would probably be best for me. I'm not sure 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:43.420 about everybody else who has a job, but the later in the day is probably the more likely 00:06:43.420 --> 00:06:50.640 I'll be able to make the meeting. Is there, does anybody have any thoughts about what 00:06:50.640 --> 00:06:57.880 days and what times to have meetings? For me, mornings are a lot better. I, I work 00:06:57.880 --> 00:07:03.920 till nine at night. So three is when things start heating up. But if it's better for everybody 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:13.120 else, I'll, I can find a way to make it work. Well, I like the Thursday at three o'clock. 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:27.120 Three is good for me. Let's see. Rob or Dustin, Patricia, do you all have thoughts? That works 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:36.160 for me. My, I, my schedule is very flexible, so I can do three or any, just about any time. 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:43.440 Yeah. Madison, we can try to get the, them on three at three o'clock as, as much, sorry, 00:07:43.440 --> 00:07:47.480 as best as possible. Sometimes there are meetings scheduled way out there that I've already 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:55.160 taken our date or our time. So we'll definitely let you know, obviously what time it is before 00:07:55.160 --> 00:08:01.360 it's that day. But yeah, we can definitely shoot for three as much as possible. I think 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:07.680 the other thing to note is at some point the city is going to be opening back up. So we 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:14.000 may be able to go back to in-person meetings in the evening. We just don't really know 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:18.740 what time at this point, we're just not really sure how that will work and when that will 00:08:18.740 --> 00:08:29.440 start happening. So that's, that's kind of where we're at right now. Okay. And Rob, did 00:08:29.440 --> 00:08:36.320 you have any thoughts on timings of meetings? No, I'm fine with, I'm flexible, just like 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:42.040 Patricia, just, and it'll work. And it sounds like we're going to kind of put it in pencil 00:08:42.040 --> 00:08:45.840 and then possibly have to change it around anyway. But for right now, I'm happy with 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:53.000 what, what the group thinks. I think more people said three works than the morning. 00:08:53.000 --> 00:08:58.040 So I would say, I don't know if we need a vote on this. I think this is just maybe guidance. 00:08:58.040 --> 00:09:02.760 So I would say we try to do like the last Thursday at three, and then it'll kind of 00:09:02.760 --> 00:09:08.680 be like over the last year. If that changes, we'll just email everybody, you know, as soon 00:09:08.680 --> 00:09:14.400 as it advances, as you know, Madison. Yes, Madison. I was just going to say, is it more 00:09:14.400 --> 00:09:20.480 of a priority for it to be at three than on the last Thursday? Because if we know that 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:24.280 three o'clock is taken for the last Thursday, we could potentially look at a Thursday before 00:09:24.280 --> 00:09:31.280 or the Thursday after and see if three is available. That time is available. It just 00:09:31.280 --> 00:09:37.360 depends on what y'all would prefer a regular date or regular time. 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:41.760 I guess, I mean, I guess I would kind of go toward a regular date, so I just know what 00:09:41.760 --> 00:09:46.960 day it's coming. But for me personally, as an attorney or as a prosecutor, I mean, if 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:52.880 I have a hearing or something that they usually don't ask me the prosecutor. So, you know, 00:09:52.880 --> 00:09:55.640 if I can't make it, I'm just not going to be able to make it. And I'm not going to know 00:09:55.640 --> 00:10:06.520 until maybe a week in advance. You know, I guess maybe we'll just just stay flexible, 00:10:06.520 --> 00:10:10.600 Madison, and we'll just, you know, we could even send out it, you could even send out 00:10:10.600 --> 00:10:15.600 an email, if it can't be at Thursday at three, if there's a lot of different choices, and 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:19.120 we're not sure what will be best, we could just send out an email and stay flexible, 00:10:19.120 --> 00:10:24.920 especially, you know, until in-person meetings resume, which, you know, who knows, maybe 00:10:24.920 --> 00:10:30.720 this year. Any more thoughts on that from anyone? 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:39.320 Mine is the same, flexible, because, you know, I work at a funeral home, so I'm not always 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:45.400 meeting available day or night. So I just, whenever we have it, I can make it, I can 00:10:45.400 --> 00:10:56.360 make it. So three is fine as just as any day, or 10. 00:10:56.360 --> 00:11:06.440 Yeah. Any more thoughts on that? I don't see any. So as long as there's not, we'll move 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:16.240 on to the approval of minutes for the last two meetings. We're both on February 25th. 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:23.200 There was a special panel meeting in the morning over advisory question by Paul Metzmulser. 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:28.760 And then we had our regular meeting at three, which I don't remember if it was work or the 00:11:28.760 --> 00:11:34.560 contract business going on at my house, but I know I was very late for it, and I apologize 00:11:34.560 --> 00:11:37.340 for that. So I read through those. I didn't see any 00:11:37.340 --> 00:11:41.240 problems. Are there any more? Did anybody have anything to say about those minutes? 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:49.360 Anything to alert Madison to? Okay. Is there a motion to accept those minutes 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:54.080 from both of those meetings? I can move approval to the meeting, the regular 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:59.640 meeting, but I wasn't at the hearing. So I think somebody who was there should move approval 00:11:59.640 --> 00:12:04.960 for that. Okay. So Neta has moved approval for the regular 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:08.680 meeting. Is there a second? A second. 00:12:08.680 --> 00:12:11.840 Ronnie second. So we'll vote on the regular meeting. 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:13.680 Bob? Aye. 00:12:13.680 --> 00:12:17.320 Myself, Laura, aye. Ronnie? 00:12:17.320 --> 00:12:19.320 Yes. Rob? 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:21.320 Yes. Dustin? 00:12:21.320 --> 00:12:23.320 Aye. Patricia? 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:25.320 Aye. And Neta? 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:29.320 Aye. Okay. And then, yes, Ronson. 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:34.160 Aye. I don't believe that anybody that was on the panel is actually in today's meeting. 00:12:34.160 --> 00:12:37.680 Okay. I think it was Dawn, Debra, and Ron. 00:12:37.680 --> 00:12:44.400 Oh, that's right. It was. I think we can, I mean, it was sent, go ahead, Trey. 00:12:44.400 --> 00:12:48.880 Yeah. I was just going to say, it works that you're taking them up separately. I mean, 00:12:48.880 --> 00:12:54.020 that makes a clean record, and it's great. Just under the rules of order, your rules 00:12:54.020 --> 00:13:01.080 of procedure, you do not have to have been at the meeting to approve either move or vote 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:04.480 on the approval of the official minutes of the group. 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:11.440 Then I'll go ahead and amend my thing to say approval for both, and then maybe we should 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:14.800 revote. No, I think it's okay that we've already taken 00:13:14.800 --> 00:13:21.800 the vote for the regular, and we'll just take up the special one as a separate vote. 00:13:21.800 --> 00:13:27.040 I move approval for that. Okay, so Neda moves for approval of the special 00:13:27.040 --> 00:13:31.880 panel meeting minutes. Is there a second? Second. 00:13:31.880 --> 00:13:36.680 Bob is seconded, and we'll vote on that. Bob? 00:13:36.680 --> 00:13:40.520 Aye. Myself, Laura, aye. Ronnie? 00:13:40.520 --> 00:13:45.480 Yes. Rob, are you able to vote? 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:50.400 Yes, Mamma, yes. Sorry. Okay. And Dustin? 00:13:50.400 --> 00:13:52.800 Aye. Patricia? 00:13:52.800 --> 00:13:55.320 Aye. And Annette? 00:13:55.320 --> 00:13:58.440 Aye. Okay, so both of those minutes have been 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:11.960 passed, and we'll move on to the last agenda item, and that's the Receiver Report, Hold 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:19.960 a Discussion, and Give Staff Direction Regarding Proposed Ethics Complaint Process Packet, 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:26.640 and so now we have the narrative with the step-by-step of filing a complaint and in 00:14:26.640 --> 00:14:31.720 the process of a complaint in a hearing. We have the flowchart that's kind of more of 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:39.760 a visual picture of the complaint process, and then there's also a timeline. Madison, 00:14:39.760 --> 00:14:43.720 did you want to talk about any changes from the last meeting to now? 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:50.320 Yeah, I'll just say, just to make some things clear, the numbers in the narrative are supposed 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:56.560 to match up to the numbers on the flowchart. Since there was more detail in the narrative 00:14:56.560 --> 00:15:03.120 and they correspond, some of the boxes on the flowchart are not quite as detailed anymore, 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:08.840 or the flowcharts have been changed slightly just to make them easier to kind of go back 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:16.480 and forth and make the flowchart a little bit easier to read. The timeline really hasn't 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:28.320 changed. It wasn't changed substantively, and so I think that's basically it, and just 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:34.000 for Dustin, this is a packet that's really supposed to help both board members and members 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:41.720 of the public understand the ethics complaint process if they want to. So, ordinance can 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:47.280 be hard to read sometimes. I read through this and I thought it was 00:15:47.280 --> 00:15:52.000 well done, and I was able to follow it, and I'm pretty new to this, so it was helpful. 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:57.280 Excellent. Good test. Yeah, I want to say, Madison, I know you put 00:15:57.280 --> 00:16:03.520 a ton of work into this, and I think for those who are complaining, it'll be a lot more clear 00:16:03.520 --> 00:16:10.840 what the process is. So, I think that's going to help a lot. 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:17.360 Yeah, with all three of these, I don't think anybody can complain because whether you're 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:23.920 better at reading or visualization or a chart, it's got everything. 00:16:23.920 --> 00:16:32.000 I think the only things that I saw in there were in the narrative on section 17C. I think 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:43.200 that's supposed to be proceed to step 19, and then in the last paragraph of step 18, 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:47.100 I think the second to last sentence should be proceed to step 21. 00:16:47.100 --> 00:16:52.840 Yes, we'll make those corrections. Laura had brought those up in an email as well, and 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:58.760 then I did also, when I was making the changes that Laura previously brought up, basically 00:16:58.760 --> 00:17:03.560 those two sentences at the end of step 18 in the last paragraph, if sanctions are imposed, 00:17:03.560 --> 00:17:09.520 dot, dot, dot, I added those to the end of step 19 as well, because they kind of should 00:17:09.520 --> 00:17:19.120 be going to the same places. Right, okay. 00:17:19.120 --> 00:17:24.160 I guess for me, are there any other changes that anybody feels should be made, or any 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:29.440 further clarification? Rob? 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:37.000 I'd like to ask, I was on the preliminary assessment chart, flow chart. Number seven, 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:43.600 could the ethics complaint be frivolous? If it was a no, it would be dismissed. If it 00:17:43.600 --> 00:17:50.400 was a yes, it would go to the evidentiary hearing process. I wasn't at the last meeting, 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:55.960 so would that not be flipped the other way, in that if it could be frivolous, wouldn't 00:17:55.960 --> 00:18:04.600 it go to the hearing, and if it's not frivolous, it would be dismissed, or did I miss something? 00:18:04.600 --> 00:18:12.800 So according to the rules of procedure, the preliminary assessment panel, if they believe 00:18:12.800 --> 00:18:18.800 that the ethics complaint might be frivolous, they can recommend that it go to a full hearing. 00:18:18.800 --> 00:18:27.720 I guess maybe this will answer it, Rob. So we're only asking whether it's frivolous 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:35.120 after we've found that it's not actionable. So it's not actionable already, and then if 00:18:35.120 --> 00:18:39.920 it's not frivolous, it's dismissed, and if it's frivolous, or if we think it might be 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:45.240 frivolous, is when it goes to evidentiary hearing about whether it was frivolous. 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:49.680 Does that make sense? Yeah, I guess the word frivolous just seems 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:55.160 like to me as in why are we even talking about it? I don't see it in a legal term, but that's 00:18:55.160 --> 00:19:00.140 fine. That's why I was asking that question. Yeah, frivolous is a specifically defined 00:19:00.140 --> 00:19:03.600 term in the ethics ordinance, which is why that's what's used here. 00:19:03.600 --> 00:19:08.440 Yeah. Well, that's what my grandfather used to call me, and so that's why I thought I 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:18.400 just missed it as being frivolous. Okay. Thank you. 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:23.160 Any more questions? For our new member, I think this might be the third meeting. I think 00:19:23.160 --> 00:19:29.040 every meeting this year we've talked about these charts, at least in part, to get them 00:19:29.040 --> 00:19:34.880 to where they're understandable and correct under the code. 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:58.320 Okay, so as far as if we approve these today, I would like some direction just on what to 00:19:58.320 --> 00:20:03.080 do with them. My recommendation would be obviously put them on the board's website so that anybody 00:20:03.080 --> 00:20:11.640 can view them. I would also think that perhaps the board would want this packet sent to complainants 00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:19.360 once they file a complaint. Originally, one of the things that we had discussed was when 00:20:19.360 --> 00:20:27.920 we just had the flowchart was attaching the flowchart to any meetings for complaints, 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:32.280 so we would attach the correct flowchart. If we had a preliminary assessment, the preliminary 00:20:32.280 --> 00:20:39.320 assessment flowchart would also be included in that backup. So my question is just do 00:20:39.320 --> 00:20:43.480 you want those things to happen? Is that the direction you'd like to give if you approve 00:20:43.480 --> 00:20:50.520 these today, or is there something else you'd want them to do basically? 00:20:50.520 --> 00:20:54.600 I would think we'd put them on the website and send them to complain, and that might 00:20:54.600 --> 00:21:02.200 help. Sometimes we've gotten complaints, and I think it might help them, especially if 00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:06.640 their complaint is maybe found baseless or not administratively complete. It'll help 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:15.600 them to be able to refile it if they wish. It might help them understand that it's going 00:21:15.600 --> 00:21:24.160 to be found baseless, so they shouldn't even complain. So I think it helps explain to them 00:21:24.160 --> 00:21:37.380 what this code is like. I hope I'm saying that nicely enough. 00:21:37.380 --> 00:21:48.760 I have a question. Should this go to the council for any kind of a stamp of approval? 00:21:48.760 --> 00:21:54.600 I don't think it has to, if you would like it to. 00:21:54.600 --> 00:21:57.880 Not necessarily. We'll give it another three meetings. 00:21:57.880 --> 00:22:05.320 Yeah, I would say this is kind of an internal thing. It's not anything new. It's just a 00:22:05.320 --> 00:22:06.320 kind of reorganization. 00:22:06.320 --> 00:22:09.320 You haven't changed anything. 00:22:09.320 --> 00:22:18.600 All right. Is there any more thoughts? I can look at the agenda information sheet. Do we 00:22:18.600 --> 00:22:25.060 need an official vote to approve these and put them on the website, or do we just kind 00:22:25.060 --> 00:22:30.040 of give you direction that they're approved and to put them on the website? 00:22:30.040 --> 00:22:35.840 You do not need an official vote, just direction to staff to move ahead. 00:22:35.840 --> 00:22:53.580 Okay. Is there anybody against approving these, this packet? Okay. 00:22:53.580 --> 00:22:58.880 So the direction I'm hearing is take the packet as it is, as we talked about the amendments 00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:04.320 to it, the couple of little things, and post them on the city's website so that anyone 00:23:04.320 --> 00:23:08.080 can view them on the Board of Ethics webpage. 00:23:08.080 --> 00:23:15.080 And then also to, if the complaint is submitted, send the packet to the complainant at the 00:23:15.080 --> 00:23:19.440 beginning of the process. 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:25.720 And that's the direction I've heard so far. Is there anything else? Do you want me to 00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:29.680 send it to the respondent? Do you want me to include some of this information at meetings 00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:37.120 in the future? I don't know. You could think of something else, I suppose. 00:23:37.120 --> 00:23:42.000 I guess, you know, I would say, I don't know how everybody else feels. Now that the respondent 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:49.600 gets the complaint, I would say go ahead and send it to them. You know, why not? And as 00:23:49.600 --> 00:23:55.720 far as the board, you know, especially like, you know, as year to year, since there's turnover, 00:23:55.720 --> 00:24:01.200 you might just either include it or include just a link to where it is on the website 00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:10.880 in, in packets for when we have either, you know, one of the hearings or preliminary hearings 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:15.880 that are, that are explained in the packet. 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:31.200 I agree. Yes. I think I'm seeing agreement. Anybody have any, anything else to say regarding 00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:36.440 the packet and where it's posted when it's sent out? 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:46.200 I think it's a big step forward from what we had. So I think it's good. 00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:53.440 Okay. I'm not seeing anybody else jumping up. So I think, and is that everything you 00:24:53.440 --> 00:24:58.680 need from this agenda item, Madison? Yeah, I think so. Thank you all for working 00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:03.840 on this with me. I really appreciate it. I hope it will be helpful to y'all and to interested 00:25:03.840 --> 00:25:08.200 members of the public. All right. Well, that went a lot quicker than 00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:13.560 last time, I think. So, you know, maybe we should have added another agenda item, but 00:25:13.560 --> 00:25:18.240 I know when me and Madison are kind of discussing items, we don't want to, you know, make it 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:23.840 to where we don't, you know, we don't get through half the items. So today we, we put 00:25:23.840 --> 00:25:30.920 two little things because it's 1026 and we're out of items. So I would say for next meeting, 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:37.240 I know Madison kind of has a list of things that that we need to talk about, but and Madison, 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:42.160 you can jump in. Do you want people to email you with any other ideas like a week, 10 days? 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:47.640 What do you need before the next meeting? Yeah, typically we have been asking for any 00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:55.320 items that the board would like to discuss the, like the Wednesday, the week before the 00:25:55.320 --> 00:26:00.200 meeting. So if our next meeting is on the 29th of April, the 21st is when we would want 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:07.240 items by. I do have a list. We were, we were also kind of just waiting to see where the 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:13.040 election went and to make sure we had everybody who was new to the board on. So would you 00:26:13.040 --> 00:26:19.120 like me to send out that list to see if there are items that people, you know, people would 00:26:19.120 --> 00:26:24.800 like to prioritize them or? Yeah, I think that's a good idea. Just everybody do not 00:26:24.800 --> 00:26:30.840 reply all cause we don't want to get, we don't want to, you know, there's the open meetings 00:26:30.840 --> 00:26:37.400 act and we don't want to go afoul of that. I'll blank copy everyone. Okay, great. Yeah, 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:43.640 I think that would be a good idea so that we can gauge, you know, what the board finds 00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:49.480 most important of the issues we've already come up with. And you know, actually Madison, 00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:55.480 if, if you want, maybe we could, you could, we could push the deadline for new items to 00:26:55.480 --> 00:27:00.600 discuss earlier so that you can include just everything everybody's thinking about and 00:27:00.600 --> 00:27:06.280 we can prioritize what to talk about at the next meeting. I think that's a great idea. 00:27:06.280 --> 00:27:13.000 What if we, let's see, give everybody at least a couple of weeks to get items in. What if 00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:22.680 we get the items by the ninth Friday, the ninth of April? That's basically two weeks 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:29.620 from today. That gives me a week to kind of take it all in and organize it into a list 00:27:29.620 --> 00:27:34.580 and then send it out that Monday on the 12th and then y'all can have a week to respond 00:27:34.580 --> 00:27:39.040 and that way we have enough time to get the agenda together. Does that sound good to everyone? 00:27:39.040 --> 00:27:44.520 That sounds good. Yes, Rob. There was, make sure that I understand that there would be 00:27:44.520 --> 00:27:50.320 new items and then items that we had brought up that were going to be put on hold until 00:27:50.320 --> 00:27:55.280 after the council voted the new members in and such. Those particular items, will they 00:27:55.280 --> 00:28:02.600 be presented at that time as well, Madison? Yes. So once, once we have any new items that 00:28:02.600 --> 00:28:06.600 people would like, I'll send out basically a list of this is all the items that people 00:28:06.600 --> 00:28:11.240 have brought up for discussion. That will include any new items and the old items that 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:17.560 we've already discussed and then we'll prioritize those basically to, I'll send out that and 00:28:17.560 --> 00:28:21.880 the council can prior, sorry, the board will prioritize them and then we can kind of go 00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:25.840 from there on the agenda. Obviously we don't want to talk about everything at once because 00:28:25.840 --> 00:28:32.040 we have too many hours long of a meeting so. I had submitted, if you remember, a couple 00:28:32.040 --> 00:28:38.360 of items that, and we, you mentioned, wanted to wait until after the new council members 00:28:38.360 --> 00:28:43.200 in and such, which was fun. I just want to make sure those weren't all through the cracks. 00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:50.440 No, they'll be included on that list for priorities. Thank you. Okay. If there's, is there anything 00:28:50.440 --> 00:28:57.640 else from anyone for this meeting or, okay. All right. I'm not seeing anybody jump up. 00:28:57.640 --> 00:29:04.640 So I guess it is 1030 unless Madison or Trey to have anything to say. We will adjourn this 00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:09.360 meeting and I thank everybody for their time. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.