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 We have determined that a quorum has been met.

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 The downtown Denton Tax Increment Financing Reinvestment Zone No. 1 Board of the City

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 of Denton, Texas will now convene in a regular meeting at 12.01 p.m. this Wednesday, the

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 24th day of March 2021.

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 Our first order of business is to consider approval and/or corrections of the meeting

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 minutes from the February 5th, 2021 meeting of this TERS Board.

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 Are there any corrections to the minutes as distributed?

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 Do we have a motion?

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 I'll make a motion to approve them.

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 Do we have a second?

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 Then easily we'll second.

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 It is moved and seconded that we approve the minutes as presented.

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 I will call your name once called, state your name and your motion of adoption or opposition

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 with a form of yes or no, and don't forget to unmute yourself.

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 Do I wait for Paul to come back or with the quorum's voting, it's enough?

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 So the motion passes with a unanimous vote, five to zero.

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 The next order of business, we're going to actually go out of order of what was distributed.

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 So we'd like to move up one E. The chair would like to recognize Ron Minguita.

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 I'm getting your presentation pulled up, Ron.

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 Well, again, Ron Minguita, principal planner with Development Services.

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 I appreciate the opportunity to present to the board on this important update.

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 We are calling it an update, but it's not a wholesale rewrite, as you probably already

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 Jessica, next slide, please.

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 The Dem Plan 2030 is our comprehensive plan, and on February 3rd, 2015, about six years

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 of revisiting some of the goals and the policies and actions that are related to a number of

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 So part of that update and the scope of work that you see here is that our consultants,

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 I think that some of you were part of the interviews that were held about a month ago.

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 major local issues, and so part of the effort, again, with the stakeholder interviews and

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 those universities, again, are areas we want to see come to a mixed use type development.

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 and we want to make sure that we put together a plan that takes account of all of those

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 interests and forms, again, strategies, goals, and policies that helps form and guide the

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 decisions that we make moving forward, again, 15 to 20 years is what we typically plan for.

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 Ben, you're welcome to ask Ron questions.

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 This is a pretty simple one.

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 Ron, what are the last four digits of your phone number?

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 8328.

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 Thanks for that quick question.

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 Yes, Ron, on the businesses downtown, are they going to push to bring more businesses

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 I'm for pushing downtown, you know, to get businesses and other things that might want

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 I think there's ample opportunity.

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 that that doesn't, you know, diminish as we invite and bring in more businesses.

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 Connie, you kicked off another question for me.

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 Have you already reached out to Main Street Association for interviews?

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 different number of stakeholders.

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 Can we go back to slide five?

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 I know it's come up in the TERS and also in the Dead Sea meetings on item two, and I know

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 that this isn't a business plan or a mission statement, but the item number two is Denton

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 is consciously green, we're the leader in commitment to sustainability, tree canopy,

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 or we decide we need businesses there or green space.

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 How does your department, how does this Denton plan 2020, can it override other departments

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 in the idea of if we're trying to capture as much green space as possible and that's

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 part of the Denton plan 2040, how do we not escape not implementing that?

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 which the city is currently working on is part of this comprehensive plan.

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 that we can get a little bit more detailed discussions.

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 time sets policies to what the city should be doing.

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 little bit of the vision, but also making sure that we have opportunities for open space,

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 not just for regional open space, but also all kinds of open space such as trails, linkage

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 Those are some of the things that I know we're working on as well.

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 The downtown, we would certainly want to see more pocket parks.

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 The one off of industrial is a great example.

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 We want to see more of that to give people the opportunity to enjoy the outdoor.

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 Hopefully when that is completed, there is an opportunity to partner or actually purchase

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 I think we're done.

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 Thank you so much, Ron.

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 I appreciate it.

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 I hope everybody gets to get on one of the public forums.

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 I want to thank you guys for me moving up on the agenda.

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 I do appreciate that.

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 And again, if you have any further questions or comments, please reach out to me.

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 On our next order of business, we're actually going to go to 1D and we're going to receive

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 a report and hold a discussion, give staff direction regarding the downtown capital projects

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 update.

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 I'd like to welcome Rachel Wood to the floor.

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 Thank you, Madam Chair, and hello members of the TURS Board.

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 As the chair said, I'm Rachel Wood, I'm the deputy director of capital projects.

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 So we've got several different capital projects that are anywhere from initiation, more that

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 ideation phase all the way through to we've got projects that are wrapping up this year

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 So myself as well as three of our project managers are going to go through those projects.

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 projects that I present on, then we'll go on to the next project manager once they get

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 through their projects, we'll pause, let you ask questions.

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 we have so many speakers that are going to be presenting today and we're all going to

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 be presenting from this chair that I'm sitting in, it just makes it a little bit easier if

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 you can be thinking about your questions as you go so that as that presenter is seated,

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 they can go ahead and answer your questions rather than us having to continue the musical

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 chairs at the end.

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 So I'm going to pull up the presentation, I will note that we have one project manager

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 who wasn't able to join us today, his name is Kyle Pettigo, and he actually has the majority

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 of the active construction projects.

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 able to, but if there are questions that I'm not able to answer, I'll be coordinating with

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 Christina and Jessica to make sure that we're able to get specific answers back to you.

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 So I just want to make sure you're getting the most complete information possible, since

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 So I will really quickly pull up the presentation, and let's see here, okay.

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 So we'll start with one of Kyle's projects, that's the downtown storm sewer phase one

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 This is an active construction project, the design firm was DEH and the construction contractor

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 is quality excavation.

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 So the scope of this project is primarily a drainage project, it does have some pavement

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 repair associated with it.

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 The total project estimate at completion, and that's what we say kind of the all in

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 cost at the end of this project, once we get to close out will be roughly $1.8 million.

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 schedule to be completed by the fourth quarter of this calendar year, so by the end of calendar

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 We're doing a lot of coordination with this project, including with franchise utilities,

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 other city departments, as well as area businesses and TextDOT.

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 Kind of an offshoot of that downtown storm sewer, we've got a long standing 2014 bond

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 project for downtown quiet zones that we're going to be coordinating a significant amount

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 of the construction that's required for the downtown quiet zones with the downtown storm

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 sewer projects we've got a lot of nice synergy given the location and the fact that we've

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 got the same project manager assigned.

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 So those four crossings are at McKinney Street, Hickory Street, Sycamore and Prairie.

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 This project has been designed in house and then we look at as I mentioned, potentially

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 having quality excavation do a significant amount of the construction required to activate

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 these quiet zones.

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 So quiet zone repair and improvements include median improvements, sidewalk improvements

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 The total project estimate at completion is $1.3 million.

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 We had the design finalized in January of 2021, we had to do some coordination with

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 area businesses and thank you to Jessica for helping us with some of that coordination

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 to get the design finalized.

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 And we should be in construction by quarter three 2021.

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 The construction itself is not significant.

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 It's like I mentioned going to be folded in with the downtown storm sewer phase one project.

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 Where we have wrinkles with this project is we have to get approvals from Union Pacific

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 We're confident that we'll have the construction completed by the end of the calendar year.

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 What we're not confident in is the status of the negotiations and the approvals with

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 We're working very hard to get those synced up so that once we've completed the construction

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 that we can also have the quiet zones activated, but some of that is really going to be up

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 those relationships there.

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 never hear a train horn sounding at night.

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 horns and so it will just be a quieter zone, if you will, but it will not mean that you

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 will not ever hear train horns.

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 City Council also just approved a design contract actually last night for what we're calling

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 kind of the Frame Street group of quiet zones.

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 It's going to be further up, kind of running parallel along Mingo Road.

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 that can really give more respite to residents and business owners in the area because I

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 through some responsiveness issues there, but we are optimistic that we're going to

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 have these activated by the end of the calendar year and then as I mentioned shortly thereafter

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 within the next few years, we hope to have the Mingo Frame Street group of quiet zones

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 activated as well so we'll have a nice corridor with activated quiet zones.

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 lighting project.

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 The limits of this project include Elm Street from Parkway to Oak, Oak Street, Carroll to

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 Elm, and Hickory, Carroll to Elm.

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 This project was designed by Teagnell and Perkins and construction is being done by

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 Floyd Smith who's the city's concrete contractor that we have on call as well as our in-house

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 traffic operations crew for the signal improvements.

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 So the scope of the project is pedestrian lighting improvements as well as sidewalk

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 improvements for the extents that I just described.

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 Total estimate at completion is $1 million.

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 after the traffic components are delivered and they have been ordered.

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 The project is estimated to be completed by the end of the second quarter, so the quarter

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 We're coordinating closely with our franchise utilities, other city departments, area businesses

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 to get this project completed as quickly as possible and definitely appreciate the use

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 of the TIFF funding to get this project completed.

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 The limits of the current phase of this project are Welch to Carroll.

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 The project includes drainage upgrades, roadway reconstruction, sidewalk installation as well

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 of right at $3 million.

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 It's scheduled to be completed by the end of quarter three of this calendar year, so

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 hopefully late summer, early fall we're shooting for completion and we've been coordinating

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 closely with residents, business owners on this project.

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 Middle School as well as with UNT just because that's a major corridor getting to and from

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 We've got regular updates on our Improving Denton website and then we've had regular

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464
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 some line work that's been conducted in concert with the construction that the city is doing

465
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,840
 on this project.

466
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:16,040
 So before I move on and the next few projects, Seth Garcia is the project manager for, so

467
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,000
 he's going to be going through those slides.

468
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,560
 Great to see if there were any high level questions that I could either attempt to answer

469
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:28,440
 or we can have Kyle provide some written responses to give you all feedback on those first few

470
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,280
 projects that I covered.

471
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,160
 Rachel, I have a question.

472
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,320
 This is Melissa.

473
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:44,280
 I know on our last TERS meeting, Alex had asked about the coordination or the concept

474
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:49,840
 of instead of just replacing a sidewalk is to expand sidewalks so that the walkability

475
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:55,800
 of downtown is in line with what might be in the Denton 2030 plan, but you know that

476
00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,440
 it's a bigger, better sidewalk, not just a replacement of what was there.

477
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,800
 Can you speak to that?

478
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,800
 Absolutely.

479
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,540
 So that's a really important point and something that we are working on coordinating.

480
00:35:06,540 --> 00:35:12,160
 I think the timing of Ron sharing the information on the update to the comprehensive plan and

481
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,600
 then this coming afterwards actually worked really well.

482
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,720
 So thank you, Jessica, for your flexibility with the agenda on that.

483
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:22,600
 We actually, Robin Davis, who's going to be presenting in a little while, is the project

484
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,920
 manager that's been assigned and kind of tasked as our sidewalk czar, if you will.

485
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:33,320
 She's putting together a, you don't like that term, I'm sorry, Robin, our czarina.

486
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:38,080
 Robin is putting together our five-year sidewalk work plan right now.

487
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,580
 We're developing that in coordination, not only with streets and drainage to make sure

488
00:35:42,580 --> 00:35:47,560
 that we're planning for sidewalk needs as we're doing those roadway reconstruction,

489
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:53,080
 major drainage and utility projects, but we're also coordinating with Gary Packen, who's

490
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,480
 got the trails master plan.

491
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:00,680
 And once we hire our new bicycle and pedestrian coordinator, we'll also be developing and

492
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,800
 finalizing that sidewalk work plan with that person as well.

493
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,520
 Absolutely, we're looking at some of the sidewalk segments that we have in design or in construction

494
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:15,640
 right now are five feet, but we are definitely having the conversation as we look particularly

495
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,200
 at those accessibility needs.

496
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,460
 Does it make sense to have an eight-foot or a 10-foot in some areas?

497
00:36:22,460 --> 00:36:27,320
 As we're rolling out the sidewalk work plan, which we should be doing in May, the summer

498
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:32,440
 timeframe, we do plan on presenting that not only to the parks board, but also to the committee

499
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,720
 on persons with disability, to the traffic safety commission, as well as to the mobility

500
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:41,320
 committee in addition to hopefully doing some sort of a road show so that we can get some

501
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,800
 additional feedback from the community as well.

502
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,480
 But we are absolutely wanting to be as inclusive as we can be, not just with sidewalks, but

503
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,480
 we're just taking...

504
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,620
 You'll hear Becky and myself use the term holistic a lot.

505
00:36:52,620 --> 00:36:57,820
 We're really wanting to take a true comprehensive holistic view as we're doing capital improvement

506
00:36:57,820 --> 00:37:01,740
 so that we're not just looking through the lens of what do we need to do to complete

507
00:37:01,740 --> 00:37:06,320
 this roadway or how do we connect the existing sidewalk segments.

508
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,160
 But what are those long-term needs?

509
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,900
 What's in our comprehensive plan?

510
00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:11,740
 What's in our mobility plan?

511
00:37:11,740 --> 00:37:13,680
 And then really what makes sense for our residents.

512
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,560
 So that's absolutely a fantastic question and something that we're working towards.

513
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,520
 Thank you, Rachel.

514
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,520
 Okay.

515
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,960
 Sorry, Rachel, just one quick question.

516
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,840
 What's the TxDOT tie-in for the drainage project along Bell and Oak?

517
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,840
 I don't see any TxDOT roadways right there in that area.

518
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,480
 Or am I mistaken?

519
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,200
 You're talking about for downtown storm sewer phase one?

520
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,200
 Yes.

521
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,200
 Yeah.

522
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,200
 That's a good question.

523
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,320
 It could be that I needed to update the slide and TxDOT shouldn't be on there.

524
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,320
 You're correct.

525
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,920
 That's not a TxDOT roadway.

526
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:50,920
 We are...

527
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,440
 We meet with TxDOT on a monthly basis.

528
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:58,160
 I think actually Kyle asked me to update that to say Union Pacific Railroad and I did not

529
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,780
 update the slide.

530
00:37:59,780 --> 00:38:02,400
 So that is actually my mistake on there.

531
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,960
 So thank you for noting that it is actually Union Pacific Railroad that that's supposed

532
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:07,960
 to say.

533
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:08,960
 Thanks.

534
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,280
 I just wanted to make sure I'm not the confused one here.

535
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:17,520
 And Melissa, I would just add, as I was reviewing the downtown implementation plan, it actually

536
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:25,080
 includes a lot of kind of artistic renderings of the types of sidewalk and street sections

537
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,720
 and cross sections in the downtown area that long-term we'd like to move toward.

538
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:35,040
 Especially that did a lot of work that goes from a specific design of specific areas.

539
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:43,440
 But just wanted to let you know that.

540
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:49,600
 To add in there, you had said the TxDOT should maybe not be on there.

541
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:56,000
 Is that drainage system going to link up with the drainage that was...

542
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,600
 Oh, I don't know if we're planning it still.

543
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,720
 Along the south side of the square?

544
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:06,080
 Could that be why TxDOT is on there?

545
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:11,240
 Truthfully, it was supposed to be updated and that was a mistake with us having TxDOT.

546
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:13,400
 We do coordinate with them on all things.

547
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,680
 We are working towards the implementation of a stormwater master plan.

548
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,360
 And of course, our stormwater is a network where it is all interconnected.

549
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:27,660
 But again, I apologize, I think I may have sent Jessica the wrong version of this presentation

550
00:39:27,660 --> 00:39:31,200
 where that was just one edit that needed to be made.

551
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,480
 So we always coordinate with TxDOT.

552
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,520
 We are actually meeting on a monthly basis with our area engineer, Tina Massey, to make

553
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,600
 sure that we're better coordinating on those projects.

554
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,880
 And of course, she wants to know the status of projects just because we have so many TxDOT

555
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,760
 roadways in the downtown area.

556
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,600
 But on that slide in particular, just in full transparency, that was just a mistake.

557
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,160
 And I think I sent the wrong version to Jessica.

558
00:39:55,160 --> 00:40:01,680
 Okay, so with that, no mistakes are allowed.

559
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:06,240
 Just put it on the list Councilmember Meltzer, I'm sure I've got quite a list going right

560
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:07,240
 now.

561
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:11,920
 Okay, well, with that, unless there are other questions, I'm going to turn it over to Seth

562
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:26,640
 to go through his projects that he has in downtown.

563
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:32,360
 All right, good afternoon, Madam Chair, board members, Seth Garcia, project manager with

564
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,940
 Capital Projects.

565
00:40:34,940 --> 00:40:39,520
 This afternoon, I'll be going over PEC 4 phases one and two that's under construction.

566
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:44,400
 And then as well as PEC 4 phases three and four, that's currently under design.

567
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:50,360
 So to start off PEC 4 phases one and two, the we installed dual 11 by 8 drainage boxes

568
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:56,400
 from Wainwright up to Prairie and then across Elm and Locust, and they decommissioned right

569
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,760
 behind the Ravel and Bakery.

570
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:04,560
 We also did a quite a bit of utility relocation and replacement all the way up and down Elm

571
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:10,780
 and Locust from Hickory to Eagle, and then quite a few side streets in that area as well.

572
00:41:10,780 --> 00:41:18,280
 The design firm for all of PEC 4 phases one through four is Freeze and Nichols.

573
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,840
 So as I said, the scope was installing those dual 11 by 8 drainage boxes.

574
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:28,560
 It also included some pretty substantial water and wastewater utility installation and relocation.

575
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:34,440
 And then we are repairing parts of the roadways that were impacted and doing a full street

576
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:35,440
 reconstruction.

577
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:41,040
 So I don't know how frequently y'all drive the Prairie Street, but we did just open Prairie

578
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:46,240
 in between Elm and Locust and then Prairie in between Elm and Pierce.

579
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:48,680
 Those are getting finished up.

580
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:53,760
 The estimated completion is 15.1 million on phases one and two.

581
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:59,120
 That project began construction in July of 2019, and we are on schedule to be completed

582
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,200
 by quarter three of 2021.

583
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:07,280
 We've done some pretty extensive coordination with franchise utilities in the area to accommodate

584
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:14,340
 the boxes this large, as well as local area businesses, and then coordination with Elm

585
00:42:14,340 --> 00:42:20,680
 and Locust being text out roadways.

586
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,560
 The next project I'm going to cover is PEC 4 phases three and four.

587
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,000
 So this project essentially takes the boxes from where we decommissioned behind the Ravel

588
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:35,000
 and Bakery, north, crossing Sycamore and Stroud to Mulberry, and then from Mulberry we moved

589
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:42,400
 west across Carroll all the way to Bernard, and then have a small piece south of Bernard

590
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,880
 to connect to the existing channel.

591
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:53,520
 Once again, this was also designed by Frieza Nichols, and we're currently at 90% design.

592
00:42:53,520 --> 00:43:00,040
 So the scope of phases three and four include 16 by 8, 12 by 8, and 10 by 8 box culverts.

593
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,680
 Once again, we'll have some pretty substantial water and wastewater installation and relocation

594
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:11,520
 just associated with the boxes this size, and then some pretty significant street reconstruction

595
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,800
 on portions of Sycamore, Stroud, and Mulberry as those boxes actually transition into the

596
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,800
 roadway from the current alignment of the rock channel.

597
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:26,940
 Our estimate at completion for phases three and four is 17.7 million.

598
00:43:26,940 --> 00:43:30,680
 Our schedule right now is kind of dictated based off of easement acquisition.

599
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:35,120
 We currently don't have funding for easement acquisition or construction funding.

600
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:40,280
 So once we do have that funding identified and available, we'll be able to iron out that

601
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,920
 schedule a little bit better.

602
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,220
 Coordination for this one, we're working with Denton County on an agreement because we do

603
00:43:46,220 --> 00:43:51,440
 cross the Denton County property in between Sycamore and Mulberry and then kind of run

604
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,480
 in front of the Carroll Building as well as multiple franchise utility relocations in

605
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,280
 the University of North Texas to accommodate all the student living that we see there on

606
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:07,920
 Mulberry that's west of Carroll Avenue or Carroll Boulevard, excuse me.

607
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,520
 And with that, those are my two PEC-4 projects.

608
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,560
 Any questions?

609
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,960
 Okay, perfect.

610
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:20,960
 Thank you.

611
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:26,680
 Next is Ms. Robin Davis.

612
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:37,440
 Good afternoon, I'm Robin Davis, and I'll be going over the next couple of projects

613
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,920
 with you.

614
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,680
 The first one is the all-way crossing around the Denton County Courthouse on the Square.

615
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:50,320
 And this was just approved in council for the design of this project last week on March

616
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,080
 16.

617
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:57,200
 So what this will do, this will provide permanent all-way crossing and signal improvements at

618
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,420
 each of those intersections around the Square.

619
00:44:59,420 --> 00:45:04,560
 It'll provide for some diagonal crossings as well as just the normal crosswalks that

620
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,520
 you're used to seeing.

621
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:11,920
 We have an estimate at completion for this of 662,000, and we anticipate design being

622
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,240
 complete by quarter three of this year and a construction completion of quarter three

623
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:18,360
 of next year.

624
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:24,600
 We'll be coordinating, of course, with our Main Street Committee and also with all the

625
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,360
 area businesses.

626
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:32,020
 We'll have community meetings at 30% and 90% design, and we'll distribute mailers and everything

627
00:45:32,020 --> 00:45:37,320
 prior to construction and during construction efforts.

628
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,920
 The next one is the Bell Avenue sidewalk connectivity.

629
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:46,040
 This is sidewalk along Bell Street between Hickory and Sycamore, and it was designed

630
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,400
 by Adams Engineering.

631
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:54,560
 We're going to complete this probably, the estimated construction completion for this

632
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,120
 is quarter one of next year.

633
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:02,880
 The estimated completion is 116,000, and we'll be coordinating with real estate currently

634
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:07,160
 on property acquisition if needed for any temporary construction easements or right-of-way

635
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:13,380
 needs that we need prior to construction.

636
00:46:13,380 --> 00:46:17,080
 And the next one is the A train to UNT bike and pedestrian path.

637
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:22,400
 This is going to be implementing a side path down Sycamore Street from the downtown Denton

638
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:28,640
 Transit Center to Welch, and then on Welch Street, a bike lane between Hickory and Eagle.

639
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:35,660
 And this is also a project that the design was approved by council on March 16th.

640
00:46:35,660 --> 00:46:41,880
 So this will be a bicycle and pedestrian improvements on route from A train station to UNT with

641
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,860
 a 10-foot side path.

642
00:46:43,860 --> 00:46:50,280
 New traffic signal, bike radar, estimated completion is 2.6 million, and we expect design

643
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,600
 to be complete by quarter one of next year and estimated construction completion by quarter

644
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,980
 four of 2023.

645
00:46:57,980 --> 00:47:04,160
 We'll be coordinating with UPRR and DCTA on the relation to any of those pedestrian railroad

646
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,800
 crossing requirements, and we'll be also having committee meetings.

647
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:14,320
 Committee meetings will be held at 30%, 90% design, mailers will be distributed prior

648
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:23,520
 to construction, and we'll also be working with other area businesses.

649
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:24,520
 And that's it for me.

650
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:31,100
 Does anyone have any questions about those three projects?

651
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:35,320
 I do have a question.

652
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:43,920
 The Bell sidewalk, that was between which streets?

653
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,080
 Hickory and, that's all I've got.

654
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,080
 Thank you.

655
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,080
 Okay.

656
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,080
 Anyone else?

657
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,720
 Does the 10-foot side path look like?

658
00:47:55,720 --> 00:47:57,200
 What does that look like?

659
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:03,440
 Well, it's currently under design, but it'll basically just be a 10-foot wide sidewalk

660
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,840
 but it's considered a side path because of the width.

661
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:07,840
 Okay.

662
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:13,320
 And that's, that runs down Sycamore from the train station to UNT?

663
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:18,000
 From the train station to Welch Street.

664
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,200
 Wow.

665
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,680
 Anyone else?

666
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,240
 Okay.

667
00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:38,520
 I think Trevor Crane is next.

668
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:39,520
 Good afternoon.

669
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:40,520
 My name is Trevor Crane.

670
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:45,520
 I'm a project manager with the city of Denton in the capital improvement department.

671
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,360
 So today I'll be talking to you about two projects.

672
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,480
 First one is Elm and Locust phase two.

673
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:56,320
 The limits of this street are Elm and Locust street from US 380 to Hickory street.

674
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,400
 It's currently under design by Half and Associates.

675
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,440
 Scope of this project is a drainage system upgrades.

676
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:08,680
 We'll also have some water and wastewater system upgrades as well.

677
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:13,240
 Our estimate completion for this project is a little over $20 million.

678
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:19,920
 The schedule, the design is probably within the next month, we're probably about 95% just

679
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,040
 making some final tweaks to that design.

680
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,480
 The construction schedule is dependent on funding.

681
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:30,200
 We're currently trying to identify drainage funding for this project.

682
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:35,400
 Once we get that locked down, we'll be ready to move forward with construction.

683
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,840
 Coordination.

684
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,400
 So project status updates will begin once funding has been acquired and the project

685
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,560
 moves forward.

686
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:47,160
 Our design consultant is currently doing survey work out there and working on some right of

687
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:55,200
 way and then we'll also be coordinating with TextDOT on this project as well.

688
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,320
 The next project is the Development Service Center parking lot improvements.

689
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:04,800
 This is for the parking lot at 401 North Elm, which is our new development service center.

690
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,800
 This was designed in-house and our contractor is MSB Constructors.

691
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,720
 So the scope of this project is the actual parking lot reconstruction with some drainage

692
00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:18,520
 improvements as well as lighting, sidewalk, landscaping, and pavement striping.

693
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,420
 SMS completion is $1.2 million.

694
00:50:22,420 --> 00:50:26,880
 Construction is scheduled for completion in quarter two of 2021, which is about two months

695
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,520
 ahead of schedule.

696
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,880
 Probably would have been done already if it hadn't been for the snow and the weather,

697
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,640
 but we're moving and getting pretty close.

698
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:37,960
 Coordination.

699
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,840
 We have biweekly meetings with our contractor and our development services staff to provide

700
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:47,600
 updates on the progress of that project.

701
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,000
 And that is it for that.

702
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,760
 Anybody have any questions on those two projects?

703
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,240
 A question about the parking lot itself.

704
00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:04,720
 What kind of signage is going to be there so that evening parking might be available

705
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:10,480
 as public parking and then the linkage between that parking lot and the square, what is that

706
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,840
 being coordinated with or looked at?

707
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:17,080
 So there's actually three entrances into the parking lot.

708
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:22,960
 There's one off of Bolivar, one on Parkway, and then one onto Elm itself.

709
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,880
 The way it's designed is kind of for people to come in off of Bolivar and then drive through

710
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,080
 on and continue on through Parkway.

711
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:38,200
 As far as signage, there will be some public parking signage though eventually not in this

712
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:44,120
 current design, but in an upcoming design we're going to be working on an additional

713
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:51,400
 parking lot that attaches to that, have electrical vehicle charging stations for the public as

714
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,760
 well as the City of Denton vehicle that they use.

715
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:02,640
 So as far as specific for public parking signs, there are some, but not necessarily a whole

716
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,280
 lot.

717
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,720
 And I think the question really is, is that going to be public parking and is there going

718
00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:16,500
 to be linkage from the largest public parking lot, potentially the largest public parking

719
00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:18,000
 lot, to the square?

720
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,000
 Right.

721
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:23,680
 So the purpose of that parking lot is for the community who's going to be using going

722
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,520
 in and out of that building, there will be some spots for employees, but a lot of that

723
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:33,200
 parking spot is going to be for residents that are coming in and dealing with the different

724
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,520
 departments that are housed in that building.

725
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,400
 All right.

726
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,800
 We can further discuss that, but go ahead, Paul.

727
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,640
 Yeah, just to follow on, I'm really glad you raised that, Melissa.

728
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:50,520
 Isn't it more or less, I mean, the whole building, more or less replacing the rented space and

729
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:58,320
 the old DATCA building on Oak and the parking behind that is, you know, is posted so that

730
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,920
 after office hours, it's available to the public.

731
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,040
 So wouldn't it be just the same deal?

732
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,040
 Correct.

733
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,040
 That's correct.

734
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:13,400
 It's, we've, I know they've, the DATCA building, we've got rid of that.

735
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:18,000
 So the actual, there's a lot of different services that are now housed in that building

736
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:23,760
 that will be, you know, operating out of there, but after business hours, it will be open

737
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:24,760
 to the public.

738
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:25,760
 Yeah.

739
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,960
 Which means weekends too, which is great for new time.

740
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,160
 Thanks.

741
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:42,400
 Yeah, I, I guess part of, of what I heard in Melissa's question was as far as linkages.

742
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:48,240
 Right now, you know, there's no crosswalk directly across McKinney from that property.

743
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:52,640
 So is the plan to route pedestrians over to Elm and what is the state of the sidewalk

744
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:57,720
 there or, you know, since McKinney doesn't get a lot of traffic, is there an ability

745
00:53:57,720 --> 00:54:01,960
 to, to make a good crossing there essentially?

746
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:02,960
 Sure.

747
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:08,680
 So currently while the construction has been underway on that parking lot, we've had our,

748
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,840
 the, the workers who are actually using that building now parking in that public lot across

749
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:13,840
 McKinney.

750
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:20,800
 So what we did is we, we rehabbed that, that crosswalk right there at Bolivar and McKinney

751
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,920
 to allow for a safe space for people to walk across there.

752
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:30,000
 We've ordered some of the flashing pedestrian lights, that will end up being, that will

753
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,720
 stay there permanently.

754
00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:38,120
 Once we move on to that next phase of construction for that kind of small triangular parking

755
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:43,240
 lot that's right on the McKinney and Bolivar, then we'll, we'll rehab that, that, that corner

756
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:48,480
 some more to make it ADA compliant and make sure that we have connectivity for, through

757
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:53,120
 all those sidewalks there.

758
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:58,280
 And unrelated to that, when, when you mentioned coordination with TechStat on the Elm and

759
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:06,520
 Locust projects, how does that align timeline-wise with the take-back program and are we going

760
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:13,200
 to get ourselves in a situation where we risk tearing up a good street or are we confident

761
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,880
 that we're going to get all that stuff done even though we don't have tons of funding

762
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,040
 identified yet?

763
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,680
 Yeah, that's, that's really a question for Becky and Rachel.

764
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:27,380
 As far as I'm, as far as I know, that we will not be taking that street back until the agreement

765
00:55:27,380 --> 00:55:30,960
 we have with TechStat is that we won't take that street back until we are completed with

766
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,320
 our utility work on that street.

767
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,600
 So we wouldn't be taking that street back until we're a hundred percent complete with

768
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:38,600
 it.

769
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:39,600
 Okay.

770
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:40,600
 Thank you.

771
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:41,600
 Sure.

772
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,280
 Anything else?

773
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:56,360
 All right, thank you.

774
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:00,160
 And I can really quickly just kind of add to what Trevor said, you know, as we're looking

775
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:06,080
 at TechStat roadways, as I've mentioned earlier, we're meeting with them on a now monthly basis

776
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:12,400
 directly with the area engineer and we are certainly open to having conversations about

777
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,040
 potentially taking on roadways.

778
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,400
 Our intent is not to take on any roadways that don't meet our current specifications

779
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:20,600
 and requirements.

780
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:26,520
 And so the expectation would be that TechStat would bring those roadways to our current specifications

781
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,920
 before we would entertain those conversations.

782
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:33,320
 So all preliminary in nature, but we want to make sure if we're accepting an asset that

783
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:44,320
 that asset meets our standards.

784
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,200
 We appreciate your time today.

785
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,840
 I'm happy to share my contact information with those of you that don't have it.

786
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,960
 We're happy to come back if you have other specific questions and we look forward to

787
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,360
 speaking to you again in the future.

788
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,680
 Hopefully we're able to share with you that several of the projects that we mentioned

789
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:04,380
 as active construction today will be closing out so we look forward to that within the

790
00:57:04,380 --> 00:57:08,280
 next year having several projects that we can say have been completed.

791
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:18,320
 So thank you again.

792
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,960
 We don't need to have further discussion on that, right, but we're moving on to the next

793
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:22,960
 item.

794
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:23,960
 Okay.

795
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:28,340
 So the next order of business is 1B, receive a report, hold discussion and give staff direction

796
00:57:28,340 --> 00:57:33,040
 regarding the 2021 annual meeting schedule.

797
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:38,880
 Yes, as required by the boards and commissions handbook.

798
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,760
 The board must adopt an annual meeting schedule.

799
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:49,440
 Your typical meetings are held on the fourth Wednesday of every month at noon.

800
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:57,840
 And so those dates for 2021 are included in your backup, but we're already kind of a quarter

801
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:58,840
 in.

802
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:04,000
 So this is just for the remainder of the year at this point.

803
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:08,680
 The board does retain any right to call a special meeting like we did in February to

804
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,680
 adjust our schedule as needed.

805
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:15,020
 We're just required by ordinance to adopt the official meeting dates, what will be the

806
00:58:15,020 --> 00:58:21,320
 regular meeting dates of the board.

807
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:27,760
 I can pull it up if you think that'd be convenient, but the dates are moving forward March 26th,

808
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:32,640
 July 28th, September 22nd and November 24th.

809
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:38,320
 The November 24th date always falls on the Wednesday prior to Thanksgiving and we almost

810
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:44,140
 always end up moving and rescheduling, canceling the regular meeting and calling a special

811
00:58:44,140 --> 00:58:47,040
 called meeting.

812
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:51,160
 Since we usually have quite a few people traveling on that date.

813
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:58,120
 So do we vote on that or just give a thumbs up to yeah, let's move forward with the way

814
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,320
 it is.

815
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,800
 A motion and a vote would be the best way to go on this one.

816
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:03,800
 Okay.

817
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,720
 Do we have a motion?

818
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,240
 Then easily we'll motion.

819
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:11,240
 Motion what?

820
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:16,120
 To accept our meeting as set.

821
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:20,680
 Do we have a second?

822
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:21,680
 I'll second.

823
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:22,680
 Eric second.

824
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:32,720
 It is moved and seconded that we do as Ben suggested where we keep the meetings as set.

825
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:38,800
 And I'll call each name and again, go around the horn to get a yes or no or a version of

826
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,960
 yes or no.

827
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:51,120
 And so we'll start Connie There you go.

828
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,520
 I'm still muted.

829
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,920
 You did yourself again.

830
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:55,920
 Yes.

831
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:56,920
 Yes.

832
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,240
 You're talking so.

833
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:04,440
 Can you hear me?

834
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:05,440
 Yes, sir.

835
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:06,440
 Okay.

836
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:13,200
 Peter went up, you know, repeat what you were saying, please.

837
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:20,680
 So we have a motion and a second to accept the dates for the next meetings as presented

838
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,640
 and we're looking for yes or no vote.

839
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,120
 Yes.

840
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:27,480
 Okay.

841
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,120
 Eric.

842
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,840
 Yes.

843
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,920
 Jimmy.

844
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:38,640
 Unmute Jimmy.

845
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,640
 His lips say yes, but does he?

846
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:41,960
 There we go.

847
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,600
 I'm new at this.

848
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:45,600
 Yes.

849
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:46,600
 Paul.

850
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:47,600
 Primitive.

851
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:48,600
 Ben.

852
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:49,600
 Yes.

853
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:58,520
 So the motion passes by unanimous vote.

854
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,080
 Thank you all.

855
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:06,120
 So on to the next order of business, one, see, receive a report and hold discussion.

856
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:07,120
 Did you ask Eric?

857
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:13,160
 I thought he had profound problems with it and I didn't hear his full argument.

858
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:14,160
 Okay.

859
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:18,000
 I didn't want to see.

860
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,640
 Receive a report, hold discussion and give staff direction regarding the ongoing downtown

861
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:26,240
 tax increment reinvestment zone number one study and analysis.

862
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,360
 The chair recognizes Jessica.

863
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,080
 Hi, everyone.

864
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:35,240
 Well, it's so rare that I get to share all my presentation duties, so I'm always happy

865
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,720
 to invite some guests in.

866
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:42,640
 I'm going to go over just a really quick update over what we've been working on and what's

867
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:43,640
 happened.

868
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:49,640
 I shared with you a few weeks ago a summary of the council presentation as well as provided

869
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:50,640
 the link.

870
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:57,720
 I know many of you have watched it or participated in it, so I'm not going to relive that for

871
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:04,800
 everyone, but let me pull up my presentation real quick.

872
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:11,840
 So to just go background for our newer members, we hired TXP, that's Travis's company back

873
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:18,100
 in late 2019 to complete a review of revenue projections of the downtown TERS fund.

874
01:02:18,100 --> 01:02:22,720
 Our initial focus was specifically looking at the PEC four phases three and four project

875
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:27,960
 and could that be funded because that was associated with a specific development project

876
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,360
 that was presented to us at the time.

877
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:37,040
 That development project has since been withdrawn and with COVID and the pandemic, really we

878
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,600
 started taking a more holistic view of the TERS itself.

879
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:44,320
 So we really changed the timeline of the study and what the analysis parameters are.

880
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:48,880
 So if you go back and look at the original scope of that study, we changed a lot of those

881
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,520
 sort of in process and those are the various conversations we've had with the board over

882
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,780
 the past year.

883
01:02:55,780 --> 01:03:01,040
 This is the summary in a nutshell of what we sort of found during the study.

884
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:06,260
 So we reviewed all of the original catalyst studies, the project and finance plans and

885
01:03:06,260 --> 01:03:11,320
 all of the other sort of relevant documents that led to the creation and implementation

886
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,040
 of the downtown TERS.

887
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:18,500
 We worked with kind of the known limits of the TERS, which was it had a 30 year term.

888
01:03:18,500 --> 01:03:22,720
 It also has a revenue cap on it of $24.8 million.

889
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:27,480
 It has a decreasing contribution rate, so the city steps down its contribution over

890
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:32,140
 time and the city is the only participating jurisdiction.

891
01:03:32,140 --> 01:03:36,800
 What we found in this study is that the TERS has really performed fairly consistent with

892
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,280
 the original finance plan.

893
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:43,240
 The only thing that was really different is that growth occurred primarily through appreciation

894
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,120
 as opposed to the new value.

895
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:53,680
 And the TERS was formed really around expecting new growth and that occurred instead in appreciation.

896
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:59,040
 At the end of the last fiscal year of FY1920, there had been about $3 million in revenue

897
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:04,160
 that had been collected and about $21 million remaining.

898
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,520
 And what we found when we ran pretty conservative revenue projections is that the TERS will

899
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:12,660
 hit that revenue limit before it hits the term limit.

900
01:04:12,660 --> 01:04:19,800
 So it would expire with no changes and under those sort of scenarios we ran, we see it

901
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:24,440
 ending somewhere around 2036, 2037, so a couple years early.

902
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:30,760
 And again, we were using pretty conservative revenue projections for that.

903
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:35,800
 So what this board talked about and what we presented to city council is that, you know,

904
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:41,860
 with no changes, there's about $21 million in future revenues, or excuse me, there's

905
01:04:41,860 --> 01:04:47,160
 about $21 million including fund balance and future revenues available for projects.

906
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:51,000
 So we looked at projects that could potentially be funded by the TERS.

907
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:55,160
 So those included capital projects that were consistent with the project plan.

908
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,000
 They were feasible given the TERS' financial performance.

909
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:03,180
 We thought that we've heard from this board or we've heard through the project plan or

910
01:05:03,180 --> 01:05:09,760
 from council that these were sort of priority areas, areas to kind of focus our study.

911
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,240
 We also reviewed these projects with developers.

912
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:16,480
 We had some public meetings with downtown businesses, downtown stakeholders, the Main

913
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,120
 Street Association.

914
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:22,000
 We talked to relevant city departments and then we brought these projects forward to

915
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:26,260
 the TERS board and to the city council.

916
01:05:26,260 --> 01:05:32,080
 This board provided us the direction to pursue funding PEC 4 phases 3 and 4 from the TERS.

917
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:38,000
 The direction in October was to consider expanding the TERS boundary, consider removing the cap

918
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,520
 to get that project fully funded.

919
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:45,120
 But to continue to look for other funding sources for PEC 4 phases 3 and 4 in a way

920
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:49,160
 that would limit and or reduce the impact to the TERS fund.

921
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,640
 And that's important because if that project were fully funded by the TERS, it would really

922
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:59,520
 take up pretty really significantly if not more than the existing financing that's available

923
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,200
 through the TERS.

924
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,800
 And the direction from the board was also to continue funding the downtown reinvestment

925
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:09,360
 grant program and that secondary project, so if that cap was removed, what projects

926
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:13,680
 would you look at doing with any additional revenue and those included smaller infrastructure

927
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:18,980
 projects and incentives if they were financially feasible.

928
01:06:18,980 --> 01:06:22,120
 So we focused our additional analysis at that point.

929
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:26,240
 We had our recommendation from the board and so that additional analysis we really focused

930
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:30,680
 in on that PEC 4 project since it would have the most significant impact on the TERS fund,

931
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:39,000
 which is why at the council presentation, we did a little bit more in depth look at

932
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,000
 that project.

933
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,160
 So we presented to city council on February 9th.

934
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:49,560
 We presented this board's recommendations, the findings of the study and various options.

935
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:55,320
 At that time, council gave us direction to fund some part of the PEC project from the

936
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,960
 TERS fund, but not 100%.

937
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:02,560
 So we're currently running through scenarios of what those would look like.

938
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:06,960
 Council also said we want you to continue to review and explore those additional options

939
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,580
 that will be needed to fund the remainder of the project.

940
01:07:09,580 --> 01:07:14,160
 So that's what you heard Seth talking about today in his presentation is we're still looking

941
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:18,920
 at that project and how we can kind of get to that 100% funding goal.

942
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:23,640
 And then also expanding the TERS boundary to get one phase of that project fully within

943
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,480
 the TERS, which would make at least 50% of the project eligible.

944
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:33,840
 Right now, the project broken down into those two phases, neither phase four or phase three

945
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,440
 is completely within the TERS.

946
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:40,240
 So not even 50% of the project could be funded today.

947
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,960
 The other direction that we got was really to build out a plan that's going to lay out

948
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:48,980
 projects that could be funded by the TERS and then move toward implementation.

949
01:07:48,980 --> 01:07:56,080
 So building what we would call something similar to a CIP or a financing plan for the TERS

950
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,320
 with those projects and so we know what we're going to be executing on.

951
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:03,920
 What we heard from this board and from council is kind of wanting to get past having this

952
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:07,780
 conversation and, you know, not having to come back in five years and we haven't made

953
01:08:07,780 --> 01:08:13,640
 any motion or progress on these, but we want to really get to a firm plan of what we intend

954
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,000
 to do and how we're going to implement it.

955
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:21,280
 And then the last piece was completing additional analysis related to property values and impacts

956
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:22,280
 in the area.

957
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:26,760
 Obviously, pulling properties out of the floodplain can impact them.

958
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,640
 It may not impact their direct value.

959
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:34,000
 So if we look at something that's a residential property today and we pull that residential

960
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:38,200
 property out of the floodplain, it may not have a significant impact on that property,

961
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:42,200
 but it could increase its development potential.

962
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,180
 So it's sort of the future value of that property becomes more.

963
01:08:45,180 --> 01:08:49,920
 So we're looking at doing additional analysis on what properties would be coming out of

964
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:56,080
 the floodplain and what development potential exists in that area.

965
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,880
 So set all of that to get to this point.

966
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,980
 So what are we doing today and where are we going forward?

967
01:09:01,980 --> 01:09:07,920
 So capital projects right now is working towards updating their estimate at completion for

968
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:08,920
 the project.

969
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:13,700
 So we're getting a better idea of what we think the all in cost of phases three and

970
01:09:13,700 --> 01:09:15,120
 four will be.

971
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:19,440
 That will then be able to be plugged into our financial analysis and we can come back

972
01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:24,240
 with more firm numbers of saying, okay, here are the options of funding components of that

973
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,600
 project through the TERS.

974
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:30,840
 They'll be presenting their stormwater master plan.

975
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:35,960
 A part of that to city council in April of 2021 and their goal at that presentation is

976
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:40,280
 to get feedback on whether council is going to want a comprehensive approach to the stormwater

977
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:44,480
 master plan or a targeted needs assessment.

978
01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:49,480
 And then that could obviously influence the timeline of how they approach when prioritize

979
01:09:49,480 --> 01:09:50,480
 projects.

980
01:09:50,480 --> 01:09:55,600
 And then moving forward through the summer as the master plan is being developed at the

981
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:59,740
 staff level, capital projects is going to work on prioritizing the drainage projects

982
01:09:59,740 --> 01:10:05,960
 that they know and developing a prioritization schedule of how they would move forward with

983
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,040
 implementing those.

984
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:13,720
 As many of you know, the PEC project is not the only drainage project that's impacting

985
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,160
 downtown drainage and impacting properties in the floodplain.

986
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:21,800
 So they want to take a holistic look and see where do we need to prioritize our work.

987
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:26,840
 In terms of economic development, we are working to update our property value analysis.

988
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:28,480
 This is a bit of a challenge.

989
01:10:28,480 --> 01:10:34,160
 We usually get files from the Denton central appraisal district that we can kind of plug

990
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:41,720
 into our GIS system and say, pull every property on their value, their 2020 value that's within

991
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:46,840
 the downtown tours and we get a nice little file that we can plug into our GIS system.

992
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:51,080
 Unfortunately that that layer isn't yet complete with DCAD.

993
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:54,360
 Now I haven't checked in with this week, so we'll check with them again and see.

994
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:58,800
 But once we have that we right now instead we are having to click on parcel by parcel

995
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:05,560
 data, which you can imagine gets pretty exhausting when there's a well over a thousand property

996
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:11,360
 individual parcel levels at that in the kind of downtown area that we're looking at.

997
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:17,880
 So ongoing we're looking at development projects that come forward in downtown when I'm referring

998
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,120
 to development projects.

999
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:24,680
 I'm talking specifically about mixed use type of development projects or business development

1000
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:30,380
 projects or things like that that are going to come in sort of on an as needed basis.

1001
01:11:30,380 --> 01:11:33,840
 So as those projects come forward, we're not going to say, hey, no, we're waiting on this

1002
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,000
 additional analysis.

1003
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:39,680
 We want to go ahead and say, bring those in and we'll kind of evaluate those as part of

1004
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,400
 our overall process.

1005
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:47,240
 We're going to continue to look at possible infrastructure projects that could also be

1006
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:52,000
 continuing to look at that menu of possible infrastructure projects and really creating

1007
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:58,360
 a pro forma that could include a cash flow analysis and sort of a capital plan for how

1008
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:04,200
 we sort of program out the TERS funding over the life.

1009
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:09,240
 And then lastly, one of the interesting questions that got brought up and I think it was councilmember

1010
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:14,560
 Meltzer who brought this up is we really need to know what the all in downtown infrastructure

1011
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:15,560
 project costs.

1012
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:20,060
 You saw a lot of projects earlier today from capital projects saying these are all going

1013
01:12:20,060 --> 01:12:22,720
 on in downtown and those aren't all of them.

1014
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:26,760
 We know that there are more, we know that there's additional work that needs to be done.

1015
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:32,120
 And so we really want to get our hands wrapped around if we want to kind of continue development

1016
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:36,400
 in downtown, what is that all in cost to get our infrastructure prepared to handle the

1017
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:40,840
 type of development that we want to see in downtown that allows properties to come out

1018
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:45,420
 of the floodplain that creates those sidewalks and pedestrian corridors and bike corridors

1019
01:12:45,420 --> 01:12:48,280
 and you know our transit oriented development.

1020
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:52,340
 What would it take to get to that place?

1021
01:12:52,340 --> 01:12:56,200
 And so that's that's pretty much all we have going on right now.

1022
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:57,680
 So I'm going to go ahead and take this down.

1023
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:10,840
 I'll happy to answer any questions or bring a slide back up if I need to.

1024
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:11,840
 There we go.

1025
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:12,840
 Now I'm unmuted.

1026
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:13,840
 Okay.

1027
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:22,760
 You had said in an earlier slide in regard to the end of the PEC4 project that your recommendation

1028
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:29,120
 from council was to move forward, assuming that some money would come from TURS, but

1029
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,000
 not 100%.

1030
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:39,200
 Was there a stipulation attached to that in regards to expanding the funding, like how

1031
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:44,800
 long the TURS could fund itself or the amount cap?

1032
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:49,320
 Is there any consideration for changes to those or updates to those?

1033
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:55,760
 So the direction we got from council was that if the kind of generally, let's say we presented

1034
01:13:55,760 --> 01:14:01,880
 those three options, then kind of 0%, 50% and 100% funding, the comfort level was somewhere

1035
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:09,240
 of 50% or less, which would we would consider that to be one phase of the project.

1036
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:14,620
 To do any of the phases, so phase three or phase four, we have to expand the boundary.

1037
01:14:14,620 --> 01:14:19,600
 So if council were to even consider a 50% funding of the project, the boundary has to

1038
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:24,000
 be expanded to get 50% of the project into the TURS.

1039
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:29,640
 So if there were no boundaries, like the physical boundary, yeah, the geographic boundary of

1040
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:33,400
 the TURS, we would have to capture additional properties in the TURS.

1041
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:34,400
 Okay.

1042
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:40,440
 Now what about what we had gotten from the consultant was if we funded some of this,

1043
01:14:40,440 --> 01:14:43,920
 that's it, and the TURS is gone, the money's gone.

1044
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:44,920
 Yes.

1045
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:51,200
 And that same information was presented to city council of that at a 100% funding scenario,

1046
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:57,180
 you'd have to remove the cap to fund the project fully, and then you'd also have to expand

1047
01:14:57,180 --> 01:14:58,180
 the boundary.

1048
01:14:58,180 --> 01:15:03,640
 There's no way to get to funding 100% of the project without doing those additional actions.

1049
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:10,600
 But even with those additional actions, you use up really any future revenues.

1050
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:16,920
 Yeah, so it's still just, hey, we should look at spending out of the TURS, not let's go

1051
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,280
 for it and close this thing down.

1052
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:26,920
 No, I think that there was pretty clear direction from council that they want the TURS to fund

1053
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:33,640
 a portion of the PAC project, but not 100%, but they wanted a clear list of projects that

1054
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,040
 would be funded from the TURS.

1055
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:41,480
 So how do we get to 100% utilization of the TURS?

1056
01:15:41,480 --> 01:15:42,480
 Okay.

1057
01:15:42,480 --> 01:15:43,480
 Okay.

1058
01:15:43,480 --> 01:15:49,160
 So is that a conversation we can have going forward of expanding the timeline and expanding

1059
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:50,160
 the cap?

1060
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:57,480
 Yes, I don't think council, yeah, council didn't shut the door on changes and related

1061
01:15:57,480 --> 01:15:58,480
 to the TURS.

1062
01:15:58,480 --> 01:16:04,660
 It was more of kind of specific to that PAC project that they didn't want to find 100%,

1063
01:16:04,660 --> 01:16:09,640
 but kind of come back with a menu of options that they can consider.

1064
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:10,640
 Okay.

1065
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:18,000
 And to the same point that Ben had, we had had a conversation about participating jurisdictions,

1066
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,400
 maybe including county in the future.

1067
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,980
 Has there been conversations with county?

1068
01:16:23,980 --> 01:16:27,840
 Is that part of what we might be able to capture in the future?

1069
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,280
 It is, and council asked the same question.

1070
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:32,200
 We haven't approached them specifically.

1071
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:37,240
 We had very preliminary discussions with them and we sort of got the same direction from

1072
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:42,760
 them of when there's a list of projects and we know what we'll be participating in, we're

1073
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,560
 open to having the conversation.

1074
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:49,640
 So I think we need to get a little bit more refined on our projects before we approach

1075
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:50,640
 them.

1076
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,360
 So how fast does that happen?

1077
01:16:52,360 --> 01:17:00,040
 So if in four months at the end of the summer, the list is there, city council said yes,

1078
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:04,080
 county said yes, we participate because we see where the funding is going to come from

1079
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,760
 for 100% and what the projects are.

1080
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:12,840
 And then how does that get, like, what's the timeline to expand TERS to include additional

1081
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,640
 footprint and or to include county?

1082
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:20,080
 Like I don't know what that process is for the expansion.

1083
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:24,160
 There's some public notification and public hearing requirements.

1084
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:29,560
 I don't remember the days off the top of my head, but it's usually a 30 to 60 day.

1085
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:34,220
 And then I know Mac is here with the Sarsity attorney, but there's usually a 30 day like

1086
01:17:34,220 --> 01:17:38,400
 notice requirement and then we have to post the public hearing notice and then there has

1087
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,240
 to be action taken.

1088
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:47,940
 So I would say it's probably somewhere in the 30 to 90 day range of the process legally

1089
01:17:47,940 --> 01:17:49,680
 has to take.

1090
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:50,680
 Great.

1091
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:54,320
 Paul, I saw your hand.

1092
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:55,320
 Thanks.

1093
01:17:55,320 --> 01:18:02,000
 I just wanted to clarify at least, you know, what I heard that I agreed with.

1094
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:08,000
 So I don't know if it's, you know, entirely the will of council was as far as picking

1095
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:13,480
 between the parts of PEC, the PEC project, that there's one part, I don't remember if

1096
01:18:13,480 --> 01:18:19,080
 it's three or four, it's one part that's more, you know, evidently in kind of the business

1097
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:25,160
 area and one part that goes more into what's residential today.

1098
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:30,960
 And so just to the conversation, as I said, at least the part that I agreed with was to

1099
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:37,280
 focus on the part that, you know, that was more kind of within, you know, within the

1100
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:41,680
 east-west boundaries that we're accustomed to thinking of as the business area and that

1101
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:46,480
 that would therefore point us toward the 50%.

1102
01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:48,680
 That's correct, council member.

1103
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:56,040
 Phase three, one is primarily already about 75% of phase three is already within the boundary

1104
01:18:56,040 --> 01:19:02,440
 per se and it also is the piece that runs along Sycamore kind of through the county's

1105
01:19:02,440 --> 01:19:08,160
 historic park and then turned south towards Stroud.

1106
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:17,120
 Thanks for confirming that and then actually, while we've got the mic, what do you envision

1107
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:21,320
 as the process for picking through the menu of projects?

1108
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:27,280
 Will that be a task for this body initially to make a recommendation?

1109
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:33,480
 Absolutely, it's a pretty comprehensive analysis already, but what we're doing is trying to

1110
01:19:33,480 --> 01:19:35,520
 narrow the focus.

1111
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:41,360
 I think we heard a pretty good consensus, you know, the list of projects, that shortlist

1112
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:45,200
 of things that we have seem to be generally acceptable.

1113
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:51,520
 Those are kind of projects we know need to happen and they're all feasible downtown TURS

1114
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:52,520
 funded projects.

1115
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,680
 There's not one that's 60 million or 70 million dollars.

1116
01:19:55,680 --> 01:20:04,480
 They're all small scale projects and so we're using that to say, okay, you know, if we accept

1117
01:20:04,480 --> 01:20:10,640
 as PEC is kind of one a priority, we can actually run the scenarios of saying, okay, you can

1118
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:16,000
 do PEC and this project or you could do PEC and this project and this project, which can't

1119
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:17,520
 do that.

1120
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:23,040
 So we're actually going through that and building that out right now with the data we have.

1121
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:30,240
 Once we have the updated estimates at completions, once we get the updated data from DCAD, we'll

1122
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:34,640
 be able to plug those numbers in, but the formulas will essentially be the same.

1123
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:41,800
 So we're building that pro forma right now and then kind of forecasting out the TURS

1124
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:42,800
 revenue.

1125
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:46,520
 And so if there's going to be debt issued, we have to make sure that our debt lines up

1126
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:51,400
 with our cash flows for the TURS so that we're able to pay that debt service.

1127
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,040
 So that's the process we're going through right now.

1128
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:55,040
 Great.

1129
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:56,040
 Thanks.

1130
01:20:56,040 --> 01:21:01,640
 So that's what we have to look forward to.

1131
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:02,880
 Yes.

1132
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:04,760
 Eric?

1133
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:13,760
 Yeah, I guess I really resonate with what was said about let's figure out what the all-in

1134
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:21,800
 plan is for how to transform a growing downtown essentially.

1135
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:32,560
 I know a couple of years ago, it's not a scientific study, but I saw a popular question from our

1136
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:36,960
 state representative, Lynn Stuckey, and he was asking, you know, where's the first place

1137
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,680
 you take friends or family when they come visit Denton?

1138
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:43,880
 And over 90% of the people who responded said downtown, right?

1139
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:48,540
 So I think downtown is really at the heart of what people enjoy about Denton.

1140
01:21:48,540 --> 01:21:54,960
 It's really important to sort of be the fiscal engine, if you would, of our city.

1141
01:21:54,960 --> 01:22:02,160
 I guess when I see what we could do, I try to think of it more of what are the necessary

1142
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:11,080
 pillars to complete in order for the development potential that we envision being unlocked,

1143
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:12,080
 right?

1144
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:16,440
 And so certainly PEC 4 seems like one of those things.

1145
01:22:16,440 --> 01:22:20,920
 But if that's the only thing that's done, then I'm not convinced that it's just going

1146
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:24,840
 to flip the light switch and everything's going to happen, right?

1147
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,640
 There's still, you know, sidewalk connectivity issues.

1148
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,160
 Some of that's being worked.

1149
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:35,880
 What does that corridor look like in the southern area?

1150
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:41,600
 Another thing is, you know, there's a lot of those properties in that southern south

1151
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:51,260
 of the current towers actually had an all-street parking requirement exemption in the old code

1152
01:22:51,260 --> 01:22:55,280
 and the 2019 code pulled that away from them.

1153
01:22:55,280 --> 01:23:02,600
 So there's lots of sort of project/policy actions that might be necessary in order to

1154
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,320
 quote unquote unlock some of that area.

1155
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:11,180
 And I think I'd be interested in seeing what staff envisions for what that menu would be.

1156
01:23:11,180 --> 01:23:21,400
 You know, I think the PEC 4 is a lot of money and certainly, you know, the numbers that

1157
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:26,000
 were shared last year, sorry, if you want to stop me, Melissa, please do.

1158
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:30,840
 I'm kind of coming in from, you know, new from all the discussions last year.

1159
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:37,560
 And the numbers I saw last year were, you know, increased valuation of around 17 million

1160
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,480
 or so.

1161
01:23:39,480 --> 01:23:43,040
 And to me, that alone doesn't really justify the project, right?

1162
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:49,600
 You have to figure out how to unlock this area for development so that you have a lot

1163
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:57,880
 more than that, right, so that it can actually repay those bonds in a reasonable timeframe.

1164
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:08,040
 And then I guess the only thing else I'll say is that, you know, I think one question

1165
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:15,260
 I guess I have for you, Jessica, is I heard a lot of talk about office and we need to

1166
01:24:15,260 --> 01:24:20,300
 reactivate sort of the daytime activity and downtime, and I'm assuming that's what that's

1167
01:24:20,300 --> 01:24:23,480
 getting to.

1168
01:24:23,480 --> 01:24:27,200
 But then at the same time, the comments seem to say that getting office development is

1169
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:31,200
 really hard, especially in the current situation.

1170
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:36,760
 Are there any out of the box ideas that we can come up with to sort of reactivate daytime

1171
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:42,360
 activity downtown that don't involve, you know, waving a magic wand and getting more

1172
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:48,520
 office space that people don't necessarily want to occupy right now?

1173
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:51,520
 It's a challenge.

1174
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:59,280
 It's really about the TERS can be a powerful tool.

1175
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:05,360
 It's not the only tool that you can use to encourage office users.

1176
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:09,240
 A lot of it is, you know, proof of concept.

1177
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:15,560
 And so when you're looking at really changing the profile of development and area, you have

1178
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:19,240
 to have someone who's going to be first in the door.

1179
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:24,440
 Usually that has to be someone who's a much more sophisticated developer who might understand

1180
01:25:24,440 --> 01:25:30,360
 who also is willing to take a risk, but there might be a price associated with that risk.

1181
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:35,920
 And they may ask for an incentive to mitigate that and say, you know, we're willing to come

1182
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:41,640
 in and take the risk to change the profile of an area, but we're looking for, you know,

1183
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:48,680
 some assistance and there are some creative ways that communities are doing that.

1184
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:54,480
 I would say I think we've looked at, I want to say city of Allen, maybe one that has an

1185
01:25:54,480 --> 01:26:00,480
 office space program where the city is, you know, helping to offset some of those rent

1186
01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:01,680
 prices and things like that.

1187
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:07,600
 There are creative ways to get there, but it's just one way to get there.

1188
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,240
 There's some of the traditional economic development tools that are available.

1189
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:15,440
 But I would say anytime you're looking at this type of change, we have an area that's

1190
01:26:15,440 --> 01:26:22,100
 very, you know, nighttime, evening, weekend population, and we're hearing that we need

1191
01:26:22,100 --> 01:26:26,780
 to increase that daytime user, that's a change.

1192
01:26:26,780 --> 01:26:31,260
 And so we have to be willing to use the tools at our disposal to encourage that type of

1193
01:26:31,260 --> 01:26:33,440
 development.

1194
01:26:33,440 --> 01:26:35,280
 Lots of things go into that.

1195
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:39,800
 One is going to be part of what you've heard today, right?

1196
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:43,760
 Making sure that that's part of the comprehensive plan is that if that's something we want to

1197
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:50,560
 do, we have to make sure that we're building our codes around allowing that type of development

1198
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:51,560
 to occur.

1199
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:56,280
 So whether that's changing the parking requirements or changing something in the building requirements

1200
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:59,700
 in that area, then the other part of that is the capital projects.

1201
01:26:59,700 --> 01:27:04,520
 We have to have the sidewalks and the lighting and the trees and the green space that make

1202
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:05,960
 those daytime uses attractive.

1203
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:09,800
 And then the last part is the financial and economic component, which is where we come

1204
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:16,540
 in and say, well, we can help maybe offset some of that risk or mitigate that risk or

1205
01:27:16,540 --> 01:27:22,080
 encourage or incentivize that type of development to occur financially.

1206
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:30,120
 And so it's everyone working together without that, it's not as effective.

1207
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,120
 Paul?

1208
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:41,160
 Yeah, I just want to reflect on a couple of points that Eric raised, not your whole holistic

1209
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:47,360
 point, but the idea that the increase in value associated with the PEC project would be $17

1210
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:48,360
 million.

1211
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:54,160
 I mean, that's part of what we hear is going to be ongoing, is figuring out what the built

1212
01:27:54,160 --> 01:28:00,920
 out potential is, but I think that's not even going to be anywhere close to the result.

1213
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:07,000
 If you look at something like the rail yard down by the police station, that was like

1214
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:13,520
 a $500,000 property before, $400,000, and it's now probably a $20 million property.

1215
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:21,320
 So I'm not saying it's going to be all $20 million properties, but that's a lot of space

1216
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:23,720
 that becomes possible to develop.

1217
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:33,680
 And another point I wanted to follow on was you started your comments by referring to

1218
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:40,120
 a survey that our state rep had done, which I wasn't aware of, but I wonder if that, what

1219
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:41,720
 was the point of that?

1220
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:48,320
 Is there some, is he doing some advocacy for us with the state for some kind of funding

1221
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:54,680
 that might help with our big holistic downtown redevelopment vision?

1222
01:28:54,680 --> 01:29:00,480
 Is there anything forthcoming there, or is the state too anti-city to expect anything

1223
01:29:00,480 --> 01:29:01,480
 there?

1224
01:29:01,480 --> 01:29:07,280
 Yeah, so that was somewhat dated, that was pre-COVID, so I think it doesn't speak to

1225
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:14,000
 any current events going on, but I just found it interesting that everybody seems to like

1226
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:15,000
 downtown.

1227
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:23,120
 Yeah, my question was ultimately to Jessica there, like, is there anything, is the state

1228
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:27,560
 of any interest, does our state representative or the state in general have any interest

1229
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:33,900
 in investing in our cities?

1230
01:29:33,900 --> 01:29:38,920
 I don't know of anything off the top of my head, I know that this legislative session

1231
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:46,120
 might be a challenge financially for the state, so I, but I don't know of anything other than

1232
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:50,040
 the normal programs, obviously you've heard us talk about, you know, there are federal

1233
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:55,120
 grants that we may, that we're continuing to work on, and explore the possibilities

1234
01:29:55,120 --> 01:30:01,000
 for those public works improvements, so at that level, but I'm not sure of the state

1235
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:07,200
 level.

1236
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:14,640
 Too many other questions, comments related to this item in our agenda?

1237
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:20,000
 I'll just close it out by saying, you know, as with many things, this is ongoing, and

1238
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:26,140
 we will be back, and hopefully have something a little bit neater and wrapped up in some

1239
01:30:26,140 --> 01:30:32,420
 additional analysis work, I know what I'm doing this summer, so if anyone had any questions

1240
01:30:32,420 --> 01:30:38,360
 or wants to participate in downtown property value analysis, I love company.

1241
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:44,760
 Might give you a little help if you asked.

1242
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:49,620
 What's this summer going to look like anyway?

1243
01:30:49,620 --> 01:30:55,280
 Thank you Jessica, I think definitely an important part of this discussion today, thank you.

1244
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:59,600
 The next order of business is 1f, receive a report, we'll discuss and give staff direction

1245
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:04,280
 regarding the downtown reinvestment grant program, and the possible funding of COVID-19

1246
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:09,320
 response health and safety improvements as eligible grant expenses.

1247
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:12,920
 Jessica, I'm assuming this is you as well?

1248
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:18,640
 This is me.

1249
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:29,360
 Let me get everything pulled up, alright, so the objective for this item is just to

1250
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:36,800
 quickly go over a question that we received of whether or not health or safety improvements

1251
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:43,040
 made at businesses would be eligible grant expenses funded through the downtown TURS.

1252
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:47,860
 So sort of to set the stage for everyone, just a reminder that to be eligible for the

1253
01:31:47,860 --> 01:31:53,320
 downtown reinvestment grant, there are three key areas that all expenses must be eligible

1254
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:54,800
 under.

1255
01:31:54,800 --> 01:32:00,320
 Sort of the narrowest is the downtown reinvestment grant program guidelines.

1256
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:04,240
 It says if used there because that was if that becomes the funding source for any sort

1257
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:09,520
 of project or any other applicable ordinance or policy that the city might have.

1258
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:15,920
 The second kind of layer is the project plan, so we couldn't adopt a program that wasn't

1259
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:19,180
 compliant with the city's project plan for the TURS.

1260
01:32:19,180 --> 01:32:23,940
 And then lastly is that it has to be eligible under Chapter 311 of the Texas Tax Code, which

1261
01:32:23,940 --> 01:32:27,000
 is the Tax Increment Financing Act.

1262
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:31,640
 And so based on any direction or discussion we need to that we get today, if the board

1263
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:36,400
 wants us to move forward with anything, that we have to go back and review any direction

1264
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:40,240
 to be compliant with all three of those.

1265
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:44,680
 So just a reminder, since this is sort of the narrowest scope that we have to comply

1266
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:50,720
 with is the downtown reinvestment grant program, what are the existing eligible project categories?

1267
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:54,040
 That includes facade rehabilitation, building renovation.

1268
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:59,640
 We included the definitions for that, I won't read all of that, but it also includes awnings

1269
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:05,880
 and signing signs, impact fee reimbursements, utility upgrades, and interior code improvements.

1270
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:10,200
 If you'll remember just last year we updated that interior code improvement section to make

1271
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:16,040
 it clear that any type of improvement made with the Americans with Disabilities Act should

1272
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:21,720
 be included as an eligible expense under that interior code improvement section.

1273
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:25,760
 So really the point of this today is if a business that would be eligible under the

1274
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:34,880
 downtown grant program could include improvements and health or safety related improvements

1275
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:38,840
 as eligible expenses under that downtown reinvestment grant program.

1276
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:46,800
 So first we looked at eligibility, we think one option would be that it could be, we would

1277
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:51,680
 have to redefine interior code improvement, so we'd have to add something to that definition

1278
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:56,960
 to make it really clear, because it doesn't really fit into any of those definitions as

1279
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:58,560
 they exist today.

1280
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:04,120
 A second option would be to draft a new category of eligible expenses, so to make an additional

1281
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:11,040
 category that says businesses that made those improvements, that's just a separate category

1282
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:15,760
 and it wouldn't count in any of those others, it might also change how we score it.

1283
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:20,240
 Some additional considerations for just eligibility would be that properties that have already

1284
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:26,400
 reached their $25,000 max would not be eligible unless we waived or amended that part of the

1285
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:31,600
 policy as well, so that's a challenge, and then also it must still meet the chapter 311

1286
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:35,800
 and the project plan requirement, so in and of itself, without that grant program, it

1287
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:40,320
 might be a little bit more of a challenge to include health and safety improvements

1288
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:46,880
 unless we could point to a specific part of chapter 311 and the project plan that say

1289
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:49,040
 those are eligible.

1290
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:53,360
 The other consideration that we wanted to talk to the board is funding, would you want

1291
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:58,000
 that included in the existing $100,000 annual allocation or if this is something that you

1292
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:03,000
 would recommend increasing the downtown grant maybe temporarily as businesses are still

1293
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:09,380
 responding and making changes, and then additional consideration with that would be if we did

1294
01:35:09,380 --> 01:35:13,560
 make some amendment, would it be effective in the current fiscal year, a future fiscal

1295
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:19,960
 year, we haven't received any grant applications this fiscal year to date, so right now we

1296
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:22,920
 still have $100,000 available.

1297
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:29,080
 And then the last option, which, and I'll kind of get into the specifics of that would

1298
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:34,960
 be you could make a recommendation to city council to create a new grant program or policy

1299
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:40,520
 specifically related to health and safety improvements, the caveat with that is that

1300
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:45,720
 we received specific direction from city council in December of 2020 that they did not want

1301
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:50,480
 to pursue a separate grant program specific to health and safety improvements, there are

1302
01:35:50,480 --> 01:35:56,280
 a lot of federal funding that was made available through various things far beyond what the

1303
01:35:56,280 --> 01:36:01,840
 TERS could feasibly fund and so we relied on the county's grant program, federal grants,

1304
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:06,800
 the PPP, EIDLs and now we have additional shuttered venue grants and the restaurant relief

1305
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:09,440
 fund that are now coming online.

1306
01:36:09,440 --> 01:36:13,880
 Now obviously if we move forward with creating any additional grant program or policy it's

1307
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:18,160
 going to take more time to develop and implement, we're going to have to go back to city council

1308
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:23,320
 and ask them to reconsider their previous direction as well as develop drafts, make

1309
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:28,400
 sure it's legal, you know, I started to use cross before we bring it back to the board

1310
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:31,520
 for any type of consideration.

1311
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,760
 And so I just want to be clear with the board on the timeline to get something like that

1312
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:39,280
 it's it's obviously more significant when we're starting from scratch.

1313
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:45,400
 And so that that's pretty much I wanted to kind of just have a really brief summary before

1314
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:51,080
 we kind of get into the central question is it is this something that that the board wants

1315
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:56,060
 to consider and sort of and then if the answer is yes we can kind of talk through those pathways

1316
01:36:56,060 --> 01:37:02,080
 of what the challenges are and how we could get there.

1317
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:06,000
 And we're not voting on this we're just having a discussion correct?

1318
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:11,040
 Correct just just want to get direction and then we'd have to make the changes and then

1319
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:18,920
 and bring it back okay does anybody have anything to add or questions to ask with Jessica related

1320
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:19,920
 to this.

1321
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:20,920
 Paul?

1322
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:26,600
 Yeah I mean just to kind of help the discussion because you know I mean Connie and I will

1323
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:31,640
 get another bite at this potentially but what exactly are we talking about in terms of what

1324
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:37,380
 kinds of things might people want to have grants for and are they things that there

1325
01:37:37,380 --> 01:37:42,840
 wouldn't be CARES or Rescue Act money for?

1326
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:49,560
 I think we're talking about interior improvements things like installing the plastic shields

1327
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:54,880
 or the sneeze walls or the beautiful like separative walls like we have in in here in

1328
01:37:54,880 --> 01:38:00,920
 the work session room to kind of give that protective space no you know touchless fixtures

1329
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:09,260
 doors those sorts of improvements but I would point back to sort of the the a lot the same

1330
01:38:09,260 --> 01:38:15,600
 discussion we had with the ADA change was in and of itself if somebody was already making

1331
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:20,000
 an improvement would those be considered eligible expenses and that's why we wanted to clarify

1332
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:23,960
 that definition we thought that they were but it wasn't explicit in the policy.

1333
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:28,680
 So the same sort of thing if a space was being renovated today and those items were being

1334
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:35,240
 installed we think those things those improvements might be eligible but do we want to make the

1335
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:37,640
 language align with that?

1336
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:44,400
 Okay I'll just ask one more question if I may just on timing you know you kind of laid

1337
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:51,720
 out that there'd be a lot of steps to it you know I don't know if these kind of changes

1338
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:59,360
 would be considered enduring improvements or temporary and if you believe what we hear

1339
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:06,120
 from other levels of government that maybe we're kind of out of this thing in July you

1340
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:14,600
 know how much time would would even be sort of relevant you know for for downtime businesses

1341
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:22,000
 to act on it and get it and get a benefit before we're kind of post-COVID.

1342
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:29,040
 I think that's a great point and question you know we would have to make the changes

1343
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:35,560
 redraft it bring it back to this board get it back in front of City Council so if you

1344
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:40,680
 know it could be summer before we would even have something an ordinance in front of City

1345
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:58,400
 Council thanks anyone else Eric yeah I guess you know it sounds like a good idea to allow

1346
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:05,760
 people to be a little bit more flexible the big concern I have well I guess as I look

1347
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:13,120
 back over the last year right there were a lot of things we didn't know last March right

1348
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:17,520
 and and maybe if we had had this tool there it could have benefited some people but we

1349
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:23,360
 may have also made you know some improvements that that the science later turned out to

1350
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:31,440
 say that it wasn't that big of a deal to me I think the big the big question is whether

1351
01:40:31,440 --> 01:40:39,380
 a program like this could help the businesses get back on their feet in terms of making

1352
01:40:39,380 --> 01:40:46,520
 more people feel more comfortable coming back downtown right now certainly improving their

1353
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:53,960
 safety is is number one right but there are other benefits that that has as well I really

1354
01:40:53,960 --> 01:41:00,280
 can't imagine exactly what types of solutions they might come with for the grant at this

1355
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:07,280
 point but when I look at at sort of what what would the downside be of not doing this given

1356
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:13,280
 like you said that there hadn't been any applications in this fiscal year yet that there's just

1357
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:19,440
 not a lot of capital running around to do new investments like that I kind of see it

1358
01:41:19,440 --> 01:41:24,440
 as well what's the downside to trying and just saying at least for this fiscal year

1359
01:41:24,440 --> 01:41:31,720
 maybe not an open-ended thing but if you have an idea to make your business jump back a

1360
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:37,880
 little bit faster than it would otherwise and there's some way that we can assist that

1361
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:45,200
 it sounds like a good idea to me Eric I'd like I'd like to respond a second for that

1362
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:53,120
 so I'm on the Dead Sea group as well and I've been surprised that nobody's taken advantage

1363
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:59,320
 of the street the parklets and the other street that what I would consider would be a safety

1364
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:06,600
 enhancement to be able to bring people back down and I'm not sure and you know there's

1365
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:12,040
 a couple you know Jimmy and Ben might be able to speak to why those weren't taken advantage

1366
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:19,120
 of and was it capital and if there was a 50/50 grant to be able to pay for the implementation

1367
01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:26,320
 of that or the the you know the wood to put up the outdoor parks like maybe that would

1368
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:37,560
 have been a good a good place to go to as to that that grant as a safety type but it

1369
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:43,280
 would I think I think it also in in our in in terms it should be something that's more

1370
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:49,640
 substantial than a splash guard or a station where hand sanitizers are something that actually

1371
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:57,840
 changes the value of the property increases the tax basically the return on investment

1372
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:08,940
 would would be to increase the value of the property my two cents anybody else have anything

1373
01:43:08,940 --> 01:43:18,880
 to add or ask

1374
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:27,080
 So is the direction to look at that definition and and see if there's a change that we could

1375
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:34,320
 make to maybe make it a little bit more broad so those types of things could be considered

1376
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:41,440
 or okay I mean Ben and Jimmy if you I would love to hear from y'all and see what like

1377
01:43:41,440 --> 01:43:48,640
 the the parklets or what what infrastructure could a grant that would include health and

1378
01:43:48,640 --> 01:44:01,360
 safety as Jessica described work well if if we're talking about adding help for bouncing

1379
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:07,840
 back or putting safety in place I don't think we could get that approved and through council

1380
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:15,400
 and get get presentations submitted to us before the world goes back to normal so I

1381
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:24,980
 don't know if that really helps but as far as ADA and disability accessibility goes I

1382
01:44:24,980 --> 01:44:35,080
 think that should that should definitely be in there yeah that's my two cents

1383
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:40,960
 And I think that I think there's maybe a balance just thinking through this of maybe being

1384
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:46,800
 more clear of adding in parklets or street areas as to something that would be eligible

1385
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:51,320
 in the grant long term because that's something businesses may continue to want or pursue

1386
01:44:51,320 --> 01:45:02,120
 beyond COVID COVID yeah yeah I think that's a great idea I'm not certain but I think the

1387
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:07,600
 the program that was passed by council last year may have expired because I think maybe

1388
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:12,440
 it was a pilot program so that maybe that involves seeing if council wants to renew

1389
01:45:12,440 --> 01:45:16,960
 that I don't know but it's certainly something I would be in favor of using TURS funding

1390
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:26,520
 to to help smooth the way forward I think they extended it but I will I will check on

1391
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:34,120
 that and get and get back with the board so let me ask you a question you mentioned the

1392
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:39,720
 parklet is that correct if we could make it a little more general value of the property

1393
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:52,960
 I think that would be a smart smart wording to put in oh sorry did I freeze up all right

1394
01:45:52,960 --> 01:46:00,280
 we'll get Jimmy the floor all right the parklet are you talking about the parking spaces being

1395
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:07,800
 part of the restaurants or the bar that what you're referring to yes yes and nobody took

1396
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:16,760
 advantage of that we received one application but I don't know that it's actually been implemented

1397
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:23,800
 who was it just can you say it was mulberry street cantina oh yeah they didn't they didn't

1398
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:29,080
 it was it because they were going to pour concrete was that right patio I'm neighbors

1399
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:34,880
 with them that's all but yeah yeah I'm not sure what the status is that's the only application

1400
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:48,940
 we received okay well is that is that a permanent thing is that ongoing or is it a temporary

1401
01:46:48,940 --> 01:46:56,960
 or it was a pilot program I'm not sure if it's still I know it was extended beyond its

1402
01:46:56,960 --> 01:47:06,760
 initial kind of deadline but I'm not sure if it's still ongoing I'll have to look was

1403
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:18,720
 there funding for it or no no just the permission to use street property yes but it would be

1404
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:26,300
 interesting to see if we tie that in with a reimbursement grant if it would have wings

1405
01:47:26,300 --> 01:47:32,520
 that it didn't I mean I'm quite frankly shocked that it didn't have wings especially in light

1406
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:37,120
 of the conversation of wanting to use tourist funding for things like the new streets because

1407
01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:43,700
 essentially this created a meet you know the parklets would create new streets without

1408
01:47:43,700 --> 01:47:55,360
 going through creating new streets could not would but could but it would be interesting

1409
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:58,960
 if it was tied into a ringer I think we're getting a little bit off point for posting

1410
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:03,000
 safety discussion and if we want to talk about parkless we can come back at another meeting

1411
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:11,560
 okay I meant part of safety but I understand your point thank you okay so I think it sounds

1412
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:20,760
 like we're not wanting to move forward from what I can tell or and look in looking at

1413
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:33,320
 adding item 1f to future recommendation to council so what I hear could we add language

1414
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:44,020
 it's a little more broad you you had tapped on this something that if it adds to the value

1415
01:48:44,020 --> 01:48:49,880
 or the function of the business it could be included or it could be a reason or is that

1416
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:54,720
 getting too general I think that there the point would be there we could add general

1417
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:58,920
 language to the interior code improvements that would say something like an improvement

1418
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:05,960
 made for health and safety that increases the value we I'd have to you know work with

1419
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:11,560
 Mac to get kind of what would be legal language under the statute and the project plan and

1420
01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:18,200
 I could bring that back I think I think then the question would be in the board's evaluation

1421
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:24,760
 and use of the grant that you know we've kind of shied away from doing a lot of grants that

1422
01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:29,040
 where it's a singular improvement it's usually you're kind of hitting all of the categories

1423
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:34,440
 or if not it's a very small level grant some of like the mural grant that we just did was

1424
01:49:34,440 --> 01:49:39,920
 much smaller than the maximum grant because it's an isolated category so while we can

1425
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:45,080
 add this into the grant in terms of scoring it it may not score very high unless it's

1426
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:57,280
 done as part of a larger project well larger project being recreating spaces in a particular

1427
01:49:57,280 --> 01:50:09,720
 building restaurant yeah the larger rehabilitation and renovation projects kind of much like

1428
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:16,920
 sweet water you know received was very different than the h2o grant which was specific for

1429
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:24,280
 the mural and so Christina it was only what seven thousand dollars not sure I apologize

1430
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:28,240
 I don't have that number in front of me but so if it was a health and safety specific

1431
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:34,280
 language that was added to those interior code improvements or to the building we could

1432
01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:38,920
 find some language to get it in there but it would still not change how a grant would

1433
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:49,120
 be evaluated that may not be scored very highly in and of itself Paul I'm just kind of processing

1434
01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:59,160
 hearing from everyone you know it it may be a little too late to be you know what it's

1435
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:04,880
 explicitly defined as and a little too early to say what our business is going to feel

1436
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:09,960
 the need to do to jump start and make people feel comfortable to come back in the only

1437
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:14,880
 thing that I can think of that might even fall you know sort of along the lines that

1438
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:21,240
 Eric described this health and safety thing that people might sort of still want going

1439
01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:26,160
 forward and I'm just speculating would be like those air filtration systems I mean I

1440
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:31,840
 don't I don't I mean I'm just my opinion is I don't think people are going to be looking

1441
01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:38,920
 so much for sneeze guards and spacing like I think you're super ready to go back to whatever

1442
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:44,560
 the pre-covid life was to the extent possible but maybe there's still be some lingering

1443
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:52,600
 feeling of if we're 75% immune there's still some people wandering around you know with

1444
01:51:52,600 --> 01:52:00,320
 the virus so you know I'm totally speculating maybe businesses will have that as an advertisable

1445
01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:08,840
 feature that they've got the filtration but I but I still kind of feel like it's we don't

1446
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:14,960
 know yet what like the more important thing in what you said to me was businesses are

1447
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:21,120
 going to want something that are going to want help restarting and and and I think kind

1448
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:28,360
 of whatever falls under that category is more significant than necessarily be about you

1449
01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:36,960
 know yeah yeah so I don't know if that helps anyone that's just some reflection and Jessica

1450
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:43,820
 I think you said that there are other essentially funding opportunities and grants for businesses

1451
01:52:43,820 --> 01:52:49,320
 have been in the past I like the open grant which is closed but there are other opportunities

1452
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:58,160
 yes yes and particularly as it relates to to restarting because you know looking at

1453
01:52:58,160 --> 01:53:03,640
 the intent of the downtown reinvestment grant it's about historic preservation it's about

1454
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:09,360
 that rehabilitation and generating economic activity kind of where it isn't where there

1455
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:15,400
 isn't one or where you know someone has taken on renovating their space but preserving some

1456
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:23,760
 of those historic elements and so this particular grant may not be the place for those restarting

1457
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:30,400
 grants to occur if that makes sense yes I personally think it belongs somewhere else

1458
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:37,760
 so I'll make that statement personally

1459
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:42,240
 so I think the direction is we're good with the with the grant firm now but there may

1460
01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:49,120
 be a need to re-approach it later if we hear kind of what a specific need coming forward

1461
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:56,360
 I agree with that yeah just to just say one more thing you know I think there's a little

1462
01:53:56,360 --> 01:54:03,480
 bit of a lesson in and I'm looking at Matt carefully here in the discussion about streeteries

1463
01:54:03,480 --> 01:54:10,540
 and parklets and that you know we had some some very appealing I think guesses at what

1464
01:54:10,540 --> 01:54:14,660
 businesses ought to want but it didn't seem like anyone wanted it except for Mulberry

1465
01:54:14,660 --> 01:54:22,240
 Street and I'm wondering if this is you know if we need to somehow be following a little

1466
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:28,680
 more in our leadership you know I mean like like I think we need to be maybe drawing some

1467
01:54:28,680 --> 01:54:35,240
 of our clues more directly from what the businesses you know see as opportunities so it's a little

1468
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:40,120
 embarrassing having spent that many hours debating the bloody thing and then have nobody

1469
01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:47,880
 act on it yeah maybe one possible follow-on would be to to check with Main Street and

1470
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:55,600
 other organizations you know before our next meeting to see what what do they see as needs

1471
01:54:55,600 --> 01:55:08,040
 right sure we'll tell Mac that that one is a concluding item but no I think that's a

1472
01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:15,120
 great idea we could do a check-in with Main Street and see what they're hearing any other

1473
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:23,120
 further discussion next order business is 1g received staff activity report the chair

1474
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:29,120
 recognizes Christina Davis who's been waiting patiently that's a great conversation happening

1475
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:36,280
 here today just really quick since our last meeting we haven't had any openings or closings

1476
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:42,600
 so we're good there we didn't have those posted as far as coming soon we're still waiting

1477
01:55:42,600 --> 01:55:48,940
 on h2 oak and caskies both of those people are working through their business plans and

1478
01:55:48,940 --> 01:55:54,200
 and deciding how they want to proceed with their businesses but so far everyone's still

1479
01:55:54,200 --> 01:56:02,880
 moving forward so that's good news and then on our our currently active reinvestment grant

1480
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:08,560
 that 104 McKinney I did reach out to that property owner I haven't heard back from them

1481
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:12,960
 but I was able to get with development services and find out they are trying to get some of

1482
01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:17,440
 their final inspections completed they're running into a few little hiccups but they're

1483
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:22,640
 working through those and they have their next scheduled inspection for the end of April

1484
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:28,760
 so hopefully we'll have some good news soon on that property and then the remaining item

1485
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:34,740
 is just our next meeting date is May 26th is that right Jessica May 26th is our next

1486
01:56:34,740 --> 01:56:48,240
 meeting date yes give any questions for me about my report no onto concluding items thank

1487
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:54,740
 you Christina concluding items item two is there any other business to discuss please

1488
01:56:54,740 --> 01:57:05,280
 raise your hand I heard a main street briefing that's what I heard right now I think that's

1489
01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:12,240
 a great idea we'll reach out to Christine Gossett and John Cartwright and maybe invite

1490
01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:20,120
 them at our next meeting I think it's a great idea I did send Christine the link to it's

1491
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:31,120
 been sorry because we've been talking that Christina Davis and I should be updating the

1492
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:35,640
 main street board a little bit more but Christine Gossett said she'd like to just sit on these

1493
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:40,960
 quietly and just take notes so I'll try to send those to her earlier than the day of

1494
01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:55,240
 next time any other concluding items there's no other business the regular meeting is adjourned

1495
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:59,040
 at 159 p.m. thank you all very much thank you