Mar 03, 2021 Traffic Safety Commission on 2021-03-03 11:30 AM

Okay, welcome to our meeting. We appear to have a quorum of four members, so we can get started. It's great to see everyone. It's been a long, long time since we've met, so it's good to see everyone. And we can kick right into business. So do we have any presentations or comments from the public for this meeting? Do we know? No, Chair, not today. Okay, thank you. Sure. All right. Well, then we'll start with our items for consideration. And our first item is ATSC 21001. Receive nominations and elect a Chair and Vice Chair for the Traffic Safety Commission. Okay, so I can open it up. Just as a reminder, we did a better job last year, and I was reminded that we are supposed to follow Robert's rules of order when we do the meeting. So if you can either give me a virtual or just a hand, and I'll try to do my best to just call on people to give us order. There's also, I think you can raise your hand in Zoom somewhere. Let me see if I put up participants, I think. So I'll have that up too in case you want to digitally raise your hand there. So yeah, so we have a discussion on the Chair and Vice Chair. I was the Chair in the last term, and was Melissa the Vice Chair? Is that correct? Okay. All right. Well, we can open the floor. We've got Clay, I think your hand's up. Do you want to start off the comments? I would say that if you and Melissa would be willing, I would move that we reelect and continue with the same leadership. Okay. So we have a recommendation. I think it's fair, Commissioner Carr, is that something you're interested in, or would you want to trade places with me and you take over? I'm very happy to share the mantle if you like to read out things in order. I am willing to do exactly what we've been doing. I'm great with the Vice Chair. I must say that remembering Robert's Rules of Orders is somewhat challenging for me sometimes, so I'm really okay with the way it is. It's challenging for me too, if you've been in these meetings, so I'm trying to do better. Okay. Do we have any other comments from any other commissioners? Okay. So Clay, was that a recommendation that you were putting forward? Yeah. If there's no further discussion or nobody wants to nominate or anything, I would make that a motion. Okay. All right. So Clay Thurman is making the recommendation that I stay as the Chair and that Melissa Carr stays as the Vice Chair. Is there all in favor of that motion? Can we get an aye? Okay. Hang on, Chair. If we're taking that as a motion, we'll need a second. Second. Okay. We've got a second from Jeff King. Thank you. I told you I was rusty. Okay. So now if we can go ahead and we could go to vote. So we have a motion for the Chairs to remain the same, me as Chair and Melissa as Vice Chair. All in favor? Can we get an aye? Sorry, Chair. Because we're doing it virtually, you'll need to do a roll call vote. Okay. As I mean, whatever order they appear on your screen is fine, but just go through everybody. Yep. Okay. So we're just aye. No problem. Aye or nay? Commissioner Carr? Aye. Commissioner Thurman? Aye. Commissioner King? Aye. And I am also an aye. So that is four ayes and the motion carries. And so the board will recommend us to keep our existing situation with me as Chair and Melissa Carr as Vice Chair. Okay. That was quick. Item B, TSC 21002, receive a report, hold a discussion and approve the Traffic Safety Commission annual 2021 meeting schedule. And as I, before I moved to this one, actually, I just realized, I don't know if we, I think I forgot to approve the prior minutes. Are there any changes needed to the prior minutes from any of the commissioners? I don't see any reason to change them. Okay. No corrections needed. Chair, I'm sorry. I think we skipped one. Oh, did we? Oh, it is the third. Okay. Sorry. I forgot that I didn't see it on the schedule there. And so I was thinking, I was thinking we had to do that separately. Okay. Nevermind. We'll stick with BTSC 21002. Receive a report, hold a discussion and approve the Traffic Safety Commission annual 2021 meeting schedule. Okay. So it looks like to me, when I look at it, we're moving to Wednesdays. Is that correct? I'm Paul. So is there, is there anyone going, are we just looking at the attachments here or is anyone from the city discussing anything on this issue? We're happy to discuss the calendar, what we would like to do if possible is go ahead and do what the best that we can to set that calendar forward. You know, I think Wednesdays has been the day that has been happening in the past few months. There are some opportunities for us to move to the third Monday of the month if the commission is interested in that. Becky has taken the opportunity to look at the calendar. And I know it gets a little confusing today with two Becky. So when you said earlier, I'm like, which Becky are you talking to? But want to go ahead and, you know, talk about kind of that, that schedule and what might work for the commission. So I don't know, Becky, do you have anything additional you'd like to add to that? We basically have the opportunity to stay at the current timeframe that we're working through or possibly if you're interested moving to the third Monday of the month, during that that lunch hour timeframe. Unfortunately, the first Monday of the month is already taken by a different, different group at this time. So it's just really kind of open for discussion, something we would like to set. So I'll turn it over to Becky so she can add to the conversation. I just wanted to say that we originally had targeted this, this 1130-1230 timeframe, because many of you have full-time employment and it was suggested that you might be able to couple it with your lunch break to allow you to continue to participate with the committee, moving it from the evening meeting to a daytime working time slot. We do have one commissioner, Kevin Sample, who is not able to meet during the day and we'll be addressing that concern as we go forward. We have two vacant seats on this board, one that was vacated by Jim Owen. He moved to the library board just prior to his commission expiring and also the vacancy that was created by Connie Baker being elected to city council. So your thoughts if you want to see the meeting moved to a different time slot? It would, we could explore other options. I was just originally asked to see about moving it back to the standing Monday date and we did have some conflicts on the first Monday of the month as we have so many committees that are vying for workday time slots on the calendar now. Is Commissioner Sample still, is he is still a member of the committee or - Yes, currently. - Okay. So I'll just say that I just would love to know what he is able to do. I mean, of course our previous meetings were typically at 5.30. Is that, is that, are the meetings that like right after work, is that not an option anymore? Is that something Commissioner Sample would better suit him? What do we know about that? - All meetings at this time are required to be held during the normal eight to five workday schedule. That's for DTV to accommodate the recordings for the public meeting records. So Kevin did in conversation state that he could possibly meet on Mondays, but did not make a commitment to that day. His work schedule at this time, he's currently scheduled off on Mondays and might be able to participate. - I mean, if the other commissioners I'd love to hear what you all, I have a lot of flexibility at least until September when I get a new teaching schedule at UNT. And so right now my schedule is flexible and I can move things. So I'm fine. I would be fine with deferring to if Commissioner Sample thinks that there's a time he can make on Mondays, I would be okay with that. What do other commissioners, Commissioner Carr? - I'm fine with that also. Wednesdays at 1130 is fine for me. And if we need to move it to the third Monday, I'm also fine with that. - Other comments, Commissioner Thurmond or King, Commissioner Thurmond? - Yeah, I agree with Melissa that I think we should try to accommodate Kevin's schedule as much as possible. - Mondays work for me as well. - Okay. So what I'm hearing is, can we make a motion then to, can we make a motion to have Becky, somebody, one of the Beckys who's able to, I don't know who contacts, but to contact Commissioner Sample and see if that would be a better time that would work for him. And then can we find out digitally, get confirmation that way? Is that something we could do? - Yes. - Okay. All right. Does someone want to make a motion on that? - Chair, I don't think you need a motion on that. That can just be direction by the board at this point. And then once that information comes back, then the board can approve what the new schedule would be officially. - Okay. - Excuse me. On that note, I got on just a minute late or something. I don't know what y'all were talking about, but did we talk about where we're at and the filling of the other two positions? - We did not get an update on that. I don't know if there's any updates that can be provided. I mean, those have to be appointed through counselors, right? - That is up to the new council that has been elected and they will be making recommendations or nominations. Once they're presented and voted on by council, then the individuals would need to go through the same process of completing their paperwork and taking their oath before they could participate in a meeting. - All right. Well, do we... So we don't need a motion, but we will wait for word to find out if that is more amenable to Commissioner Sample's schedule and hopefully we can figure out a time that works for him. - Perfect. Thank you very much, Chair. We'll look forward to getting back with you on Mr. Sample's available. - Okay. Great. Thank you. All right. So we can move on to C, which I didn't think was on the minutes for whatever reason, but it is. It's TSC 21003, consider the approval of the minutes of November 9th, 2020. So the question really is, are there any corrections or changes that need to be made to the minutes? Okay. If there are no corrections, does someone want to make a motion to approve the minutes from our previous meeting? Commissioner Carr? - I motion to approve the minutes from the previous meeting. - Can we get a second? - Second. - Okay. Commissioner King seconds, and we will go through roll call vote. Commissioner Carr, do you vote yay or nay? - I vote yay. - Commissioner Thurmond? - Yay. - King? - Yay. - And I vote yay. So that's 4-0 and the motion approves and the minutes are approved. Okay. Moving on to item D, TSC 21004, staff reports. We have staff update memo regarding the senior planner bicycle, pedestrian, and ADA coordinator position update, and we have traffic engineering project evaluations and DCTA trip application on the agenda. - Thank you very much. Good morning, everyone. My name is Becky Devaney, city engineer and director of capital projects. I also have Chandra on the phone with me today. He is our senior traffic engineer. And so I wanted to talk through a couple of different items and kind of bring you up to speed. I know some of these are very much of interest to the commission. And so the first thing I wanted to talk about is the senior planner bicycle, pedestrian and ADA coordinator position. I've had the opportunity to review the applications. At the time of the publishing of this document, which basically was last week, we had 34 applicants. We now have 44 applicants. I've had the opportunity to review all of those individual applications, talk several individuals to see if they are still interested in the position and kind of talk through some of their experiences. At this point, we have five to seven different individuals that we're talking to and working to set up interviews over the next couple of weeks. Our hopes are to be able to interview four to five different individuals. There are three that have expressed interest in continuing through the process of an interview. A few of the folks have already received other positions with other cities. So very excited to be able to bring that forward. Hopefully, by the next time we talk, I'll be able to explain to you that we've held the interviews and really what the next steps are. So definitely moving in the right direction and having the opportunity to get those interviews set up. So we do appreciate being able to provide you the feedback on that. The next topic I wanted to talk about is the traffic engineering and kind of project evaluation. Late January, city staff, myself, along with several other folks, met with Brian Dale at NETCOG to discuss kind of the status of the overall NETCOG funding and upcoming funding opportunities for transportation and sidewalks. We currently were working through completing an overall assessment of all the traffic engineering projects. Chandra, myself, and several other individuals have sat down and looked at all of the traffic engineering projects that currently are either in process for execution or in a study phase, design phase. Some of them are traffic studies in particular that may need to turn into projects and working through roles and assignments and getting many of those projects assigned to a project manager. So Chandra has been very busy working through many of those different project assignments as we move forward. Just wanted to kind of mention to you that we're looking really at the traffic engineering group as a whole and working to assign projects that are ready to go through either the design phase or the construction phase to a project manager that would report to our Deputy Director of Capital Projects, Rachel Wood. At this time, Chandra is really working on facilitating many of the development review projects that come through. Also looking at any type of traffic consideration or question that comes in from an engineering perspective, working through studies and really ultimately working on also the mobility plan update. There's many things that are, you know, kind of going on behind the scenes that are really specifically kind of day-to-day operations of our traffic engineering department. And so our focus is just to take the projects that are ready to be delivered and move those into our project delivery team. So we're very excited about that. And we're looking kind of at our overall workload and really setting things up. I don't know that you've had the opportunity or maybe we have, have or have not, to listen to some of the presentations that we've made recently to counsel on the overall CIP update. The one thing I would tell you is we're working on structuring projects from initiation all the way through design, construction through completion phase and also kind of having that point of contact be a project manager so that that individual is responsible for that project throughout all the phases, involving also the engineering division when need be and having them review. So really just kind of an overall update. I expect that there are several projects that we're going to have that are ready to be closed out. And there are quite a few that are currently under construction too. The other thing we're looking at are all the different tasks that need to be completed from our task tracker and different speed studies that are working through the completion phase. So really just doing kind of an overall evaluation of everything that's going on traffic engineering and Chandra's been instrumental along with Scott Wilson in reviewing a lot of those things. So very excited about moving some of those projects forward. The next topic I wanted to discuss with you is the DCTA trip funding application. I'm not going to go into a whole lot of great detail besides to tell you that the city's very excited to announce to you that we have submitted an application for the DCTA trip funding. And as you can see from the description and in the staff report, basically there's several different cities, city of Denton, city of Highland Village and city of Lewisville that currently make up the member cities of the DCTA group. And we were given the opportunity to submit projects based on the following criteria, which were project limits to be located primarily within the DCTA service area, within a geographic boundary of the DCTA either member city or within a quarter mile of an A train or DCTA fixed bus route. Then you can also have the opportunity to demonstrate, I'll get it out one way or another, I'm sorry that word was giving me a hard time, but to demonstrate the project is financially sound. So we really looked at the capital expansion projects that will facilitate reliable design build cost estimates, cost estimates for maintenance or assets, requested capital funding really not to exceed the member cities trip allocation. And then also given the opportunity to look at identified funding sources for projects exceeding the requested amount. So that was really how to demonstrate the project is financially sound. And what you'll see in your packet is the city staff initiated some planning efforts and really prioritize the eligible trip projects. And so I'm looking at the list of those projects on my screen. And I just wanted to kind of go through and mention to you each one of those individual projects. The first project is the A train to UNT bike and pedestrian path. That estimate at completion is about 2.5 million. There's currently some city funding and some external funding. So we submitted for the trip funding of approximately 1.6 million. The next project is the Jennings and Alexander elementary safe routes to school project. That estimate at completion is about 1.5 million. You can see some current city funding and external funding and that proposed trip funding application was right 100 right around 505,000. The next project is the Wilson and for concrete elementary sidewalks. That estimate at completion is 629,000. And you can see the city funding external funding and the proposed funding for trip was really just about $80,000 on that project. Also the all way crossing design and that estimate at completion is 153,000. And we are asking for about $68,000. You can see the Bell sidewalk construction, which is 147,000. And we were requesting approximately $89,000. I mean, the Med Park sidewalk construction, the estimate of that project was about 147. And we were requesting actually that total dollar amount. So the total request for the proposed trip funding was 2,517,977. So on February 2nd is when DCTA announced this official call for projects and staff, our staff, the capital projects and engineering staff coordinated with our grants administrator, Laura Barons and her team to complete the application. And on March 16th, which will be coming up very soon, city staff will ask council to consider the to consider the design contracts for four of these, which are the Bell Park. I mean, I'm sorry, the Bell sidewalk Jennings and Alexander and Wilson and Pecan Creek and the all way and a train. So we're working through kind of actually moving forward with those projects. I mean, anticipation of the funding. So I think that's a really good news story. We wanted to have the opportunity to share. We shared a similar story last night at our council update. And the DCTA overall application came to council a few weeks back. So just wanted to give you an opportunity to kind of tell you some of the things that are going on within the department and just give you an update. So any questions with that before we move kind of to the next item to talk about? Well, I do have an overall question first. So are these projects are these projects where design is already approved? Like, is there any purview or will these any of these projects be of interest or come before our committee? All of these. Well, several of these projects. Actually, we're taking those design contracts forward at the council meeting on next to or I'm sorry to Tuesday was that we have a week off for spring break. So the 16th several of those projects will come forward for design contracts and move forward. We definitely can bring those projects back at some level to be able to show you if that's something the committee is interested in. It's kind of seeing an overall once we get to a certain design phase, I'm just being able to give you an update as to how those designs are happening and really, you know, how we're moving forward. So I think it's something that we could continue to give you a report on if that's something you're interested in, especially the ones in particular that we're moving forward with the design contracts. So if that's something that you're interested in, I think we definitely would be willing to bring those those topics back as a staff report. That's no problem. Well, and I think there's been if the other commissioners can chime in, but I think there's several projects that were mentioned that are certainly have been discussed extensively. For example, any sidewalks being added on Bell as a topic we've we've talked about repeatedly over the year. So for example, I think and others can kind of add on about other projects. I'd love to see what that's going to look like. And if we were able to have any input to to provide suggestions about what sidewalks along Bell would look like, for example. And there's several other projects I could comment on, but I don't think we're going to get into the nitty gritty today, I'm guessing. Sure. No, we actually need to take those design contracts to council, which I mentioned are on March 16th. And once we take those to council, they'll go through that design process. And at some period of time, and whether it's schematic phase or whether it's, you know, into a further design phase, we'll work to just bring this as part of a staff report so we can allow you an opportunity to see an overview. And when we get further down the road with these projects, I even anticipate having either the the deputy director of capital projects or the project manager and bring forward kind of a presentation that can show you those designs. And so, you know, I don't think that's anything any issue at all. And if you'd like to see that, I think that's definitely something that's doable is to kind of keep you apprised. Obviously, we'll keep you apprised to have the funding application since it's been submitted, but definitely something we can continue to report on. Okay, great. Is there any other commissioners have any questions for Becky before she moves on. One question I have one question I have is this trip thing an annual program. Yes, sir. What we understand is that it is going to be an annual program. And this is just their first round of call for projects. So what we're doing right now is developing kind of a sidewalk work plan that talks about all of the projects that need to be completed in the city, along with, you know, the adoption of the mobility plan in the near future, and then also, you know, the bike ped plan and the sidewalk plan, we will see some similarities and some opportunities to use those plans, particularly that are areas where we know those improvements need to be made as opportunities. As long as they meet the criteria set forth by DCTA, correct. So they have to be within that, you know, quarter mile radius. And so if we're looking for particular projects, we already have a few actually on the list for the next time the funding comes through, because we understood we were going to be allocated a certain amount, which was right around that 2.5 2.6 million. And the anticipation and what we've heard to date is that this is a five year program. Okay, is TW on that list? Actually, TW is a project that we're working on more of a holistic approach. And that's something we'll be bringing forward to council on March 23. TW has several different things going on. Just to kind of give you an idea of what we're looking at right now is we are trying to evaluate things from a more holistic approach when we go into a particular area. This is just kind of a little bit of a brief introduction to what you may see in the future is, you know, not only are there sidewalks or roadways that need to be completed in many areas, there may be street lights, there may be water or wastewater improvements that need to be made. And so we're trying to look at that from a holistic approach. And TW is actually one of the neighborhoods that we've already been looking at. So we have some phase one contracts that will be coming forward to council on March 23, that we'll be bringing forward to talk about that area and some of the improvements in that area. But overall, the TW sidewalks is definitely something that we're looking into. There's been conversations about sidewalks along Mingo, sidewalks along Roodale, and some of that is also going to need to have real estate acquired, etc. So they're definitely on our list and I think some of those that you may be thinking about will be in coordination with some of the TW projects. I will tell you the TW projects are going to be phased due to the amount of funding and the overall bond program projects that are associated with this at that time, but definitely something that we're evaluating. So I'm not sure if that touches on what you're looking for if you have a particular area of TW, but definitely something I mean, as you can see the Bell Avenue runs, you know, directly near the TW area. Yeah, yeah, I was thinking particularly from A train to TW. Okay, sure. Which I agree, Commissioner Thurman, that is a super important connection point that should be really clear for students that are using DCTA. Absolutely. So we can definitely look into that. I can't speak directly to that area, but I know there's some Bell Avenue sidewalks that we're currently looking at under construction and kind of filling in those gaps, right? So that's really the goal. And so I think that makes perfect sense. It's very, a very close opportunity to get from the DCTA A train stop to T to TW. So that makes complete sense. I appreciate the feedback. Thank you. No problem. So that's really my staff report. And the other thing I wanted to kind of talk about with all of you is the opportunity to bring forward any future items for consideration. I think we've heard today that you would like to be able to receive feedback and kind of an update on this DCTA program as we move through the process. I heard mention of, you know, some of the TW projects and how that is coordinated in that area. Also wanted to mention we did receive some questions earlier this week about the golf cart ordinance. And I know that's one of the things that's been brought to this commission also. So there are several folks that are new in their roles, myself included. Chandra is fulfilling some roles that he hasn't traditionally filled. And so just wanted to take that opportunity to ask you all if there might be particular topics you're interested in seeing us bring back to you and really kind of get a fresh start. We do have the old list. But we know that there are some things that maybe have already been addressed or things that maybe are not completely clear as to, you know, what needs to happen from that perspective. So just wanted to take this opportunity to allow each one of you to kind of walk through or whoever is interested to tell us some topics that they might like to see so that we could start working on. Really what I'd like to do is kind of put this together like we do particularly for our council agenda items is develop a matrix for the meetings and then kind of talk about, oh, good, I see clapping. That makes me happy. Develop a matrix that kind of talks through ultimately from a timing perspective. If we were to talk about something today, unless it's something we're already currently having the cure we're working on, the likelihood of us being able to bring it back to the next meeting may be slim to none. And so I just want to be realistic about the fact that if it's something that we're currently programmed or certainly something we're currently working on, we're happy to bring it back as soon as possible. But more than likely if it's a new topic, it may take us a month or two. And so I'd like to have that program appropriately so that you're understanding and open to when that feedback might come back. And then something I'd like to continue to include in each one of the, you know, kind of staff or agenda item updates is kind of that overall I'm an organized person and like to schedule things. So I think that will help all of us. So if there's particular topics, Becky and I would also would love to hear. I know Chandra is listening ears because he knows that means work for him. And so if there's anything, I'll be quiet and kind of let y'all go through and talk to us about particular topics that you see that are interested or that you're interested in us bringing forward. Well, if I can say something real quick about the process, I'd like to thank you, Becky, for saying that because that was what I was going to bring up. You know, I always hope that this committee makes a difference in bringing up concerns. A lot of us are are very active as walkers and bikers in the community. And so we bring up issues. And I've been concerned like the last probably two years, we used to have a matrix where we would always get an update, just, hey, this is something we can't address or hey, and that's kind of fallen off. And we make requests and they're just never brought back to us. And so I really appreciate having a matrix. And if I can give you just one example, in our November meeting, and this is a request I've been making for five years, I've probably made it about four or five times. I've asked, can we get an update on city policy on on when there's construction on a street about where construction signs go? Because currently, it seems like city policy is to block access to sidewalks and an ADA ramps with construction signs, oftentimes saying one of the two or three lanes is closed. Right. So the street is still accessible. So I made that request in November. In those four months, since then the city has put up at least by my count, I've seen 15 signs that block access on sidewalks during that time. So it just like that request has been made many times on this committee. So I'm hoping that a matrix will at least allow us to understand what's going on, because we never have gotten an update on that issue. And it's been requested many times. And so that's why I was requesting it, because I'm just, you know, concerned about our citizens who are wheelchairs are citizens who are using baby strollers or or elderly who would stepping off could easily trip or things. So so these issues are just really important. And I think this we have a great committee of people. And so if we have if we bring the matrix back, I hope that we can at least just get updates about what steps are involved in getting updates on things like that. So thank you, Becky, for bringing that up. And that would be my first issue is what is the city policy for where they put road construction signs? Sure, no, thank you. I appreciate that very much. And I apologize, I'm typing while we're also actively listening. So I'm making myself a list. So do know that I am listening. I'm just not completely looking at the screen in many cases, I want to make sure that if there's anything that we can bring back sooner rather than later, we're prioritizing those things. So I appreciate that feedback. And I think the you know, the policy kind of talking about where can city construction signs go is something that definitely is not going to be, you know, a large task to bring back. So no problem. And I appreciate you bringing that up. I I'm sorry that that hasn't been brought back to you yet. But we will do our best to make sure that we're answering your request. Thank you, Becky. I've got a I've got a couple other items, but I'll turn it over to other people first. Do other people have items that they would would they would like to see reports on? These could be previously discussed items that maybe have kind of fallen off our agenda. Commissioner Thurman? Yes, I had an item on the matrix about bike boxes, putting a bike box to give bikes a head start out in front of traffic. And my first suggestion was at Oak and Locust, right there by recycled books, because the bikes are going uphill, the lane ends right there. And if the bikes could have the space to move to the front of the lane with that bike box, and this is a good point to I know it's a little bit of a difficult area, because there is quite a slope there. But this is a good way to introduce the concept of bike boxes to our citizens in general, because that's a very high trafficked area. And then when we start putting these in some other areas, like particularly down around UNT, in places like that, that could get them used to that. I added it to the list. Thank you for bringing it up. Thank you. Are there commissioners King or Carr, do you have any items you'd like to bring up? Commissioner King? I'm good. Okay. Commissioner Carr? I don't have anything specific, but I would like to say I'm appreciative that they're moving forward with the senior planner for the bike ped coordinator position. And as a bike commuter, I really am interested in how the city is making biking more accessible for folks who don't want to ride on the street, who prefer to have a lane specific for bikes. Thank you. No problem. Thank you. And if there's not other issues, I have two minor issues. And again, these are ones that as you all are able to respond to them, I understand if it's not the next meeting, these are ones I brought up in the November meeting. So I'll just bring them up again. One is I'm just very curious about the city's position on the feasibility of a common speed limit in the downtown area. I don't know what the exact parameters would that be, but some cities have gone to common speed limits as a way to give drivers a lot of clarity about that they're entering a new area with more and with more pedestrians. And so is that something that's feasible? Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but I would love to hear the city's opinion on that. And then the other one was just a specific or a too specific, just I had a question about decisions that had already been made just to understand how those are made. One is on on Locust Street right next to Barley and board. If you know where that is, they put in a new sidewalk and ramp there. And when they completed it, it didn't have a crosswalk at that street. Does anybody know what that alley is right off? It's just it's parallel to Oak. If you're going north on, you know, towards T.W.U. on Locust. And I was really curious why in a pedestrian heavy area, a street wouldn't have a crosswalk. And that's a this, you know, when they did, they've already designed it and done it, but it was clearly designed that walkers were because the ramp doesn't even face like have an outlet to the right. It just faces like you're supposed to keep going straight. I didn't understand why that happened. So I was curious just if someone could just explain it to us. And that may be a text decision that's out of our control because it's on Locust. So I was curious about that one. And then the the other one is the city at Bolivar and McKinney. There is a faded crosswalk there. It is a spot, I think, that some people cross. My understanding and I know this because my wife almost got hit by a car there. And so she put it in for the city report and they apologize to her and said, sorry, we meant to we are trying to get rid of that crosswalk. And so my question is why what's why at McKinney and Bolivar are we getting rid of the crosswalk instead of I think what they have to do is fix the the infrastructure on the curb stop curb cuts. And I don't think they currently have that. So those were just two ones I had brought up previously. I'd love to just understand those decisions and whether those are things they're still considering. That's it. That's all I have. Great. Well, I appreciate all the feedback. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to listen to you and and some of the questions and concerns that you have. And we look forward to producing this matrix. I think really in general to the other thing that we'll be bringing forward is anything related to projects that are going on. You may start to see some of the capital projects that the team is delivering and be brought forward and some of the other initiatives that the traffic engineering group is doing. So there may be some things that maybe aren't things you were asking about, but things we want you to be aware of. So we look forward to bringing those forward to you. So I do appreciate your time and thank you for giving me the opportunity to listen and really work on developing this matrix that I think will help all of us. So I appreciate it. And that's really all I have for today's report. So I'll turn it back over to you, Commissioner. Thank you. I'm sorry. Yes. Yes. Thank you, Becky. I actually I feel like that was very productive and I appreciate the work you're doing and in helping us get organized and continue to learn about the projects. And with that item, we do not have any further items. Does anybody have any new business or things they would like to have for future meetings? Okay. With no further business for today, the meeting is do we we don't need to we can just adjourn the meeting. We don't need to do a vote, do we? I'm trying to correct. That's correct. I thought that was the case. Okay. Thank you for trying. Thank you for keeping me on on Robert's rules today. And no further business. The meeting is adjourned. Bye bye.