Mar 01, 2021 City Council on 2021-03-01 11:30 AM (Joint Meeting with the Denton Independent School District Board of Trustees)

Okay. And good morning, I guess. Yes, it is morning. So welcome to this joint session of the City Council and Denton Independent School District. So this is, it is 11 31 a.m. on March the 1st, 2021. And I will convene the City Council portion of the meeting. And I will convene the Board of Trustees portion of the meeting and we also have a forum. Outstanding, thank you very much. So then on, I'll yield to whoever is going to, well, let me call the first item about that. So the first item is item A ID 21 239. Receive report, hold a discussion regarding the Police Department Student Resource Officers Program, also known as SRO. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor Hugsburt. This is Jamie Wilson, Superintendent of Schools and ISD. And we do have on our call today, our most recent partnership with the City and before I throw it to Lieutenant Bayes, he may go back to me later towards the end. But just to bring everyone up to speed is that we entered into an agreement with the school district and the city with regard to our SO program quite some time ago with SROs in each of our campuses. And the city has always had a supervisor for both SROs and we really appreciate the city working through that with us. And then in addition to that, the school district approached the city, I don't know, a year or so ago about trying to get a Lieutenant level person to help with safety and security of our schools within the district. So then we had a person at the table with the city and working through that and that person has been Lieutenant Bayes. So Lieutenant Bayes, I'll turn it over to you and we'll allow you to leave the conversation from here until you get to questions. Or you want to send it back to me or however you'd like to make that work. If the questions get to me too, I will send them out back to you. So here we go. Thank you, Dr. Wilson. I just want to thank the mayor and the council and the members of the school board for allowing us to come and talk about the Student Resource Officer Program today. It's a very good program and let me go ahead and share my screen if I can get that to work. So if you've never met me before, my name is David Mayes. I'm a Lieutenant with Denton PD. I've been a Lieutenant for the department for some time. I've been with the agency for 23 years. Up until October, I was on a patrol shift and then in October I was asked by the chief to move to this position, which is the director of safety and security for the district. In that role, I've had the opportunity to get a lot of training. There's a lot of things that are different about being an SRO than there are about being a regular patrol officer. I've had the chance to work on emergency plans for the district. And one of those plans is the emergency operation plans, the continuity of operations plans. And that was by state legislative mandate. It had to be reviewed by a state agency or by the school safety center. And they approved that. And so that was a good thing for us. I've also had the chance to participate in audits. And the audits are an interesting thing that the school district does. Every three years, they go through all of their buildings on a rotation to make sure everything's safe and working for the students and for the employees. So I thought that was a really good thing that they do. I also coordinate with the cities of Little Elm, Corinth, Oak Point, the Denton County Sheriff's Office and a water district. All those places have SROs within their schools. And I have the opportunity to work with the SROs in our city. The SROs that are the Denton SROs are actually supervised by Sergeant Derek Bradford, who's been a boon for me, probably one of the best assets that I could have to help me get used to the idea of the differences between the way law enforcement is in the school district and it is as a patrol officer, a patrol lieutenant. The thing about it is, is that Sergeant Bradford was an SRO before he came to being promoted. And it's been very helpful, I think, for the other SROs to have someone in that role that has been promoted from their ranks. And I think it's been a very good thing for the district and for the city. All right. So the presentation overview, I'll just go over this right fast. We're going to go over the organizational structure and the school summits, the role of the SROs, the program benefits, both for the district and for the city, the school year data and our future goals for the program. And I won't read this whole mission, vision and core values to you, but I would like to bring your attention to the mission statement where it says the student resource officer unit is there to foster relationships between Denton PD and Denton ISD and create a safe and sustainable environment so that students can experience increasing opportunities to learn and become engaged citizens. And that's kind of the whole heart of the people that I work with in the SRO unit. They care about the kids and they want to give them as best a chance as they can to have a leg up and to be all they can be in society. And there's not a whole lot of things in policing that you can have a lot of pride in sometimes. Sometimes you're meeting people at the worst of their days and you don't get to see the aftermath of that, the improvement in their lives and the SROs get to have that. And as a 23 year veteran, I think it's one of those things that I missed in my career and I think I should have done. Here you see our organizational structure. Now you won't see Chief Frank Dixon or Assistant Chief Bobby Smith or my Deputy Chief Frank Padgett. And I have to say that for us to conduct our work adequately and as well as we do, we have the full support of those individuals and that's a very big help for us. But what you will see on this slide is Sergeant Bradford who I introduced a second ago and who will be available at the question and answer section of this presentation. And you'll see that the division of laborers between the high school and the middle schools, delving down deeper into that, you see the SROs from the high school assignment. You see there are two for each one of the high schools that are in the city. Just as an aside, these individuals in March when the schools got closed down went to support the patrol division in their efforts to try to protect the community. And some of them served all the way until January. And that was a cooperative effort between the district and the PD. They have a very, a very good relationship in that way that they understood that the SROs were there to help the patrol officers to stay safe. And as a patrol lieutenant at the time, we valued the fact that we had another contingent officers that we could, you know, help to cover the calls and help to cover the officers that were out because they were being quarantined and whatnot. But so those officers are all back in their positions, back at their schools now. And so they love that position. And I do know that whenever I spoke with them about it several times, they didn't mind helping patrol, but they miss their kids. They love their kids. And that's where their heart is. And I know as well as you do that when people are operating within the area where they care about something, they work better. And I think that's a beautiful thing for this program. On this next slide, you'll see the SROs are assigned to the middle schools. You have these officers, and you have their school listed above it, but you also have schools that are listed below that. Those are the feeder schools. So each one of these officers has a responsibility to go and help out with those schools. They have some sort of a concern that comes up. They're there for them. One of the teachers needs to have someone who's like an outside person come in and talk to the school, maybe to their students about drugs or something like that. These officers are there for us. They're a resource to the schools in that manner. And then we'll talk about their teaching role, the SRO. The SROs, they help out with teaching kids about the crime triangle and due process, that people are innocent until they're proven guilty. And then the crime triangle has to do with a motivated offender and a victim and an opportunity. And we try to teach the kids or they try to teach the kids that if you can cut some of that out, if you can reduce the opportunity for the offender to do something, then he reduced the chances in likelihood of being picked on crime. So that's a really good teaching piece for them. In the high schools, the SROs also teach in what was in 2014 formed was the Kids First Program. That was a cooperative effort between the NAACP, LULAC and the Denton Police Department to teach kids about how to interact with law enforcement to keep our kids safe in this community. That's now encompassed in the High School 101 course that's taught each semester, but it's one of those things that they were involved in early on before that was a mandated course. And I think it was a really good thing that we were ahead of the curve on that. As far as mentoring, mentoring can be something as simple as the officer being friendly to the kids and trying to talk to them about their week and trying to build that relationship. I think we all understand that if you spend time with someone, you get to know what their character's like, you get to spend time and see who they are. And that's really the goal is building that relationship so these students can see their officer that's on their campus and have that moment where they go, okay, you know, this is the person that is here. And if there's something going on, they can get a feel for who that person is. And maybe they can develop that amount of trust that helps them to come out of their shell and talk about something that might be going on in their personal life because they could be the youngest victims we have in our society and they don't have maybe someone else to talk to. And then lastly, you have that law enforcement piece. And you know, we because of the way the legislature scaled things, the law enforcement piece in the schools is not as active as it once was, which is a good thing because the schools now take part in conducting all the disciplinary measures that had to do with code of conduct violations, you know, some kids get into a fight or something like that, that doesn't necessarily need to rise to the level of being something that has police involvement. So that's what that that law enforcement piece is, as far as the students are concerned. And then on the other side, sometimes you have adults that come to the campuses that shouldn't be there. And we've had people that were not should not have been even been on the campus. And so instead of some teacher or administrator having to go and tell that person to leave the campus, you have an officer that can go and do that. So that's a good thing on on that part. There's also the fact that if there was an intruder or something like that, these officers can respond immediately and try to try to stop that threat and try to keep the kids safe. So it's a good opportunity for for us to protect the the youngest in our society. The program benefits, I've talked about it briefly, the safety and security measures, they have the cameras there in their offices and they check the doors. They also participate in the the audits that we do the schools. And so they're just there to preclude something negative from happening. The mentorship piece, deal with a little bit deeper into that. The department has the Denton Police Summer Youth Program, which is an opportunity for kids that are identified by their teachers or by an administrator or counselor as being on the bubble. You know, they're on that that they're starting to get worse grades or they're starting to make poor decisions. Some of those kids are identified. And then there's a summer long program that helps to keep those kids engaged and helps them to give the opportunity to make good decisions and and embrace some of the leadership roles they could take on because that was one of the things that came up from from this discussion I had with Sergeant Bradford was that some of these kids, they they have leadership potential, they just won't show it in front of their peers. And if they're given that opportunity to have maybe another scaffolding on which to climb, they can get a little bit higher because we all know coming up you met somebody that maybe could have had if they'd had just a little bit of a little bit more of a push, maybe their lives could have turned out a little bit better. And that's that's what we're hoping for is that these officers are there to to help to teach these kids some leadership skills and some some social skills and just trying to keep them engaged and and trying to make the opportunity for them to grow and flourish in a safe environment as as real as it can be. I touched on that dual role previously about the officers working during the pandemic to cover patrol shifts. The other side of that is is that the officers on the patrol shifts actually support us when we have some call like saying there's a call but there could be a weapon on the campus and you don't really have enough SROs to address that. You can have the patrol officers come in and actually be able to help with that to be able to address that. So that helps on that particular piece. And then you also have that with it being dual role because we're Denton police officers and then also SROs. This last couple weeks ago when we had the ice storm and all the winter weather that came in Crepton to Denton you had effectively nine police officers a sergeant and lieutenant that were available to the city to be able to carry out any type of policing functions that need to be taken care of and so without that dual assistance role you wouldn't have that. So that's a very big benefit I believe for the program. Here's the calls for service and you'll notice that they're different between the different years now to Sergeant Bradford's credit whenever he came to be in the supervisor of the program he noticed that there was a lack of documentation regarding the types of calls that were being documented a lot of times the SROs are basically just going in there and handling the problem and then coming back. So he started working on a higher level of documentation. As far as those controlled substance calls go my understanding is that those are mostly alcohol marijuana and then DAB debt pens which is a THC containing item which is a felony in this state and sometimes the kids get a hold of those. As far as the service calls that could just be you know something that didn't rise to the level of a fight or maybe a fight or something like that but it's something that's basically able to be contained within the student code of conduct aspect of things. Then assaults are just like they're on the street you know there could be somebody walking in the hallway and another individual runs up behind them and attacks them. Now that's an assault that's not a fight that's something that you can't do in polite society and you definitely can't do inside a school. And so those are the different types of calls that they've handled and that's the top three for the last two years. And then the future goals of the program. We want to continue the training that we're doing the SROs. This last January we were able to get all the SROs through a state mandated school-based active shooter program. Now it's not the only active shooter program that the officers have been involved in. They get a lot of training on active shooters but the state mandates that there be one specifically for SROs specifically when this within the school setting. Excuse me. So we're able to do that. We're also going to provide them with some tabletop training for the SROs in Denton so that they can maybe bring that back to their campuses and help do some critical thinking skills in case there was something that happened. Bring that back for those work days. The teachers will have some benefit from that. And then also on the DISD side we'd like to be able to do a large scale event with DISD. It's just there's a lot of moving pieces to be able to get something like that going. So I don't have the details enough to be able to sit here and present that to you today. But I will say that on the SRO side there's an alert air course and that course is not only an active shooter course but it also involves fire EMS and dispatchers and a command piece so that after the shooting stops what do we need to do now? What do we need to do to get our kids safe? What do we need to do to treat victims? And it's a more in-depth course. It takes a couple of days to carry out. But I think that's something that we'd like to do. I'd also like to be able to do something with a mental health peace officer for the officers so they have a better understanding of how to deal with people that might be in mental health crisis. There's a lot of opportunities there to expand the knowledge base of the SROs and that's what we're looking to do. And as far as the expansion of the summer youth program goes, I talked previously about the summer aspect of it but we'd like to carry it out where in the fall break that maybe these kids could be involved in handing out maybe some food to some people who are at need of having dinner delivered or something like that. And also basically the kids being able to help out with the Shop the Cop program that's been a standard program that the department's used in the last 20 years to help some of the underprivileged kids in the area to get some clothes and some toys and stuff like that. And just different things, helping them to maybe see how their role in society can be bigger than what it is and how they can see that with a little bit of work that they can make a difference in someone else's lives. Because ultimately that's what we're all here to do in the SRO program is to help these kids to see what can they achieve. I know that I've seen people achieve things that are probably better than what I've gotten in my life and watching them go forward and do that gives me a lot more. I get a lot of happiness watching somebody else achieve and I don't know, I believe that's the heart of the people there in the SRO program. At this point I'm completed with the amount of information that I had in the presentation. I know that I didn't know if Dr. Wilson wanted to speak again or if we just move to the question and answer section. One of the things I wanted to tie up here is that you can see the benefit to the city and to the school district is mutual. Having Lieutenant Mays at this level to coordinate safety and security across the district from our end makes a huge difference and a huge positive impact to the safety of our students and the safety of everyone in our community. So we really do appreciate the opportunity to have Lieutenant Mays with us, the opportunity to have Sergeant Bradford with us to supervise the SROs and to provide that leadership and that framework for what they do each and every day. I cannot be a stronger advocate for this partnership simply because you see some cities and some school districts can't ever seem to get it together to be able to make the SRO program work well with each other and so school districts end up giving all police forces and doing some things differently. We believe the benefit of having a mutual police force, an opportunity for our kids and our families to be in the City of Denton and have that same level of protection whether you're in our schools or in the community is really, really important. And frankly, a personal privilege here, yet another police force in our community doesn't make a whole lot of sense with 2WU, with UNT, with NCTC, have Denton County Sheriff, all those other pieces. Having City of Denton Police Department actually be really actively engaged in the safety and security of our schools within our community is really our vision and where we think that that's the best piece going forward. So Lieutenant Mays, I thought actually you had a slide for questions. I don't know if you need to put your question slide up there to take them, but we're definitely open to questions if you have some for Lieutenant Mays. Great. So we'll take questions, but before I do that, I want to note, Mayor Pro Tem Davis has recused during this item just for the record so that that's clear. Council Member Meltzer, you have questions? Yeah. Well, first, a comment. This whole program is at the nexus of two things that I think are very important, keeping Dentonites safe, especially very vulnerable Dentonites, and also community relations piece. Just people of the city, very young people, and the police knowing each other very well and having a good relationship. I think that's so important. But I know that the idea of police officers in the school is controversial to some. I wonder what you hear from parents. I'll just leave it at that. What feedback do you get from parents about it? Good morning. Thank you for having us here and letting me speak as well. I'm Sergeant Bradford, and I supervise the SROs here in the city of Denton. Every parent that I've had the opportunity to speak with in the recent past has been super supportive of it. They know their SROs that are on campus, and they're approachable. And so I think that's a benefit to it. Without that, you would have a random patrol officer showing up to any time they needed to respond to a call. And so you spoke to the building community piece, and that's exactly what they do. I think Lieutenant May has touched on it, where their heart is there. That's their building. And he mentioned that when COVID was happening that they missed their kids, and that's absolutely true. So I recently talked to a group of Citizens Police Academy alumni, and I know that's a little swayed, but they all were wondering when the SROs were going to be put in the elementary schools. And I told them, "We're not there yet, and there's nobody to talk about." But I've not come across any parent that was negative or had anything negative to say about it yet. Okay. Any other questions? Councilmember Johnson. I'm excited about the community and about the children and the protection. I don't know how this is done per se. Is this a joint effort between city and school district? Because I haven't heard anybody say anything about funding. Where does it come from? What's the process? Okay. Ms. City Manager, do you want to speak to that, or do you have a staff member online that could best speak to the funding? David Gaines, City Manager, can speak to it. I know that the city assist in paying for some of this, but David has the numbers. Thank you. Sure. Councilmember Johnson, this is an agreement that we enter into each year with the school district. All of the salaries come from the city, as their city employees, and then the school district reimburses us, provides us a payment for a portion of their salaries. Heading into the year, the lieutenant was 100% funded by the school district and the remaining positions were 50% funded. We did have a change to the agreement over the past month in conjunction with the operation connectivity payment that we made to the school district where they did increase the payment from the school district this fiscal year, but that will revert back to the plan I laid out in future years where the lieutenants paid 100% by the school district and the rest are 50%. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions for staff? Seeing none, I just would ask really quick, and I guess, Sergeant Bradford, maybe you could speak to this. So you have the two officers at the high school level. What's the, is there a software you're using to communicate between the two? What are the shifts like, that sort of thing? How do they, how do those two kind of work together? Absolutely. They currently, they still, they serve at the same high school, the same hours, 830 to 430 is the high school SRO schedule. They do have separate offices, but they respond to calls that need two officers together if it's a safety thing, a weapon controlled substance investigation, et cetera. Otherwise, they are responding to calls themselves, building relationships and mentoring and teaching students. Okay, great. Thank you for that. And is, I guess, to follow up to that, is there, so you implemented the kind of more of the notes, if you will, or adding that level of detail. Can you just walk us through that briefly? Absolutely. In the past, even when I was an SRO, we didn't necessarily document in our computer aided dispatch program when a parent would come in and have a conversation with us that was not necessarily criminal in nature. But if someone flagged you down on the street as a patrol officer, we'd document that as a speak with officer to kind of show where officers are spending their time. If we went into a classroom and presented anything, we wouldn't necessarily put in a call for it. And it became apparent to me that people who were not in the program did not have a good idea about what our officers did and how many engagements they had that were not criminal in nature with the students at NISD. And I felt it was important to start having that data to collect and show. And that's kind of where I've started that, meaning if an officer is having a conversation with a parent or a citizen or a student that's, again, not necessarily criminal, they're not investigating a crime, but they might be doing a mentorship aspect, they'll put in a call for service for a speak with officer so that we can show how often they're contacting our students and our faculty and not be criminal in nature. Great. Thank you very much. Absolutely. Okay. Any other questions for staff? Okay. Lieutenant Mays or Dr. Wilson, any other closing statements before we close out the side? I think that we may have some questions on our side. Yes, sir. I'll let this person take it from here. This is Price. Your comment about dealing and training as far as mental health issues, I think that is something that's very important right now. A lot of the literature I'm reading nationally has to do with the stress associated with COVID in our homes and our students and with your communication and contact with some of our most at-risk students. I would think that you might be in a position to recognize that early on and could help with these students. We're seeing the highest level of abuse that we've seen in a long time and I think these students may not know how to reach out for help. I would really think if there was any way, and I'm not speaking for myself, not the board, but for you to train your officers to help recognize this and maybe help these students cope with that, it would be very, very helpful for them and for their safety as well as the safety of everyone else in dealing with a lot of the pressures that they're dealing with right now. Yes, like I said, we'd like to have that training in there. That's a week-long training. Sometimes that's harder to get done. There's also some shorter trainings. The whole point of that is so that the officers can recognize that someone may be going through a crisis. Sometimes it's not about the kids. I know that sounds strange, but some of these kids are dealing with things in their homes that are not. There may be somebody in the home that's having a crisis. I mean, because there's COVID and all the other things have affected a lot of people differently. Some of the calls that I get have to do, I can think of one recently, that after discussing it with the administrator of the school, what had caused the problem, we got down to the root cause of it. I have a 50-year-old principal tell me, "Yeah, I'm a 50-year-old man. I wouldn't want to carry what the kid's having to carry around with right now." But some of the stuff that's going on in his life, and I thought, "These kids need as many people to lean on and talk to and help them and point them in the right direction, maybe to some sort of social service or something that they can get." That's my hope is that we can recognize more of that stuff and give more help to the students that depend on us. - Dr. Alexander. - First, I apologize for being a little late arriving here today, but I just came from opening a new module for our Law Enforcement Management Institute of Texas over on the campus at TWAU this morning. I arrived just as Lieutenant Mase was beginning his presentation, and I cannot tell you how proud I am of the work that's being done between the city and the school district in really developing our SRO program. Many cities across the state and many school districts have a lot of problems working together successfully in this area. This is a model program. This is as close to the way it really needs to be as I could imagine, and I promise you that I'm going to be inviting Lieutenant Mase to come and talk in our institute about the way and how well this is working to them. So thank you very much. But this is something our council and our school board should take great pride in the fact that we've been able to develop this joint arrangement between the city and the school district. Thank you very much. I think that's all the questions and comments that we have from the school district and the trustees. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions on the city council side? Or any other closing comments? Lieutenant Mase or Superintendent? Okay. I'm just thankful that you guys gave us the opportunity to come in and speak to you today and tell you about this program. It shows us how important it is to you, and we'll keep working to try to make it better. Okay. Great. Well, thank you very much. Appreciate you representing us well and keeping our community safe and, as you said, building those relationships and developing that rapport and setting a good expectation. So thank you very much for that. Okay. Then that'll conclude item A. And then that'll take us to item B, which is ID 21331, Receive Report Whole Discussion Regarding an Update on Capital Infrastructure Construction and Development Projects in the City of Denton Impacting Denton Independent School District Facilities. Mayor, I'm going to introduce, I believe, Rachel Wood, who is the Assistant Director for Capital Improvement Projects. This is a holistic effort to share with our, not only with the city council, but with our friends at the school district, the projects that we have going around the area near the school district schools, and even some of the other things that are happening that would be of interest to the school board members. So I'm turning it over to Rachel now, and she'll let you ask a lot of questions after she finishes. Thank you, Sarah. Good morning, Mayor, council and members of the school board. As Sarah said, my name is Rachel Wood. I'm the Deputy Director of Capital Projects. So I'm going to go through the first roughly three quarters of the presentation, providing an overview of city capital projects that are located either directly adjacent to or within a quarter of a mile of a DISD facility. And then I'm going to turn it over to Julie Wyatt, who is with our Development Services Department, and she's going to provide some detailed information on private development projects that have an impact to future enrollment at DISD schools. So with that, I'm going to open the presentation and hopefully you all can see that. Okay. Yes. Thank you. Quick overview of what we're going to discuss today. I'm going to first go into some of our current coordination efforts we have with DISD staff. Then I'm going to provide a high-level overview of city capital infrastructure projects, as I mentioned, highlighting those projects that are located either directly adjacent to or within a quarter mile of a DISD school. And then Julie will provide that private development project overview. So quick update on our current coordination efforts with DISD. We have standing monthly coordination meetings. These meetings take place on the first Thursday of the month. We've got one coming up this week, where staff from development services, utilities, capital projects, and other departments on a case-by-case basis meet with DISD staff to talk about city projects, private development projects, as well as DISD construction projects, just to make sure there is an open line of communication that we're discussing coordination efforts far in advance of those projects going under construction. We also have as-needed project-specific meetings, where we'll talk about specific details kind of at a more granular level than we would at that monthly meeting. And then we also coordinate with DISD on project milestones. So when we hit 30 percent design, when we hit 90 percent design, when we're about to go to construction, we make sure and share that information with adjacent schools and truly treat DISD as a stakeholder on those projects. Development services also provides notification of upcoming residential zoning cases to DISD, and they do that just because of the impact that those residential developments could have on future enrollment at area schools. So getting into project overview, first set of projects I'm going to highlight are our Safe Routes to School sidewalk projects. Some of these are pretty long-standing projects that we're really excited we're getting off the ground. These include projects at Jennings Elementary, Alexander Elementary, Wilson Elementary, as well as Pecan Creek Elementary, and these projects provide much-needed connectivity for students walking to and from school. On March 16th, City Council is going to be asked to consider a contract for the design of these projects, and we're hopeful that by the end of quarter four 2022, we'll have all of the sidewalk segments for these Safe Routes to School projects completed. Staff will communicate and coordinate with DISD for the duration of these projects, and we'll do our best to coordinate construction in a way that will mitigate impact to those DISD facilities. So I'll just really quickly cruise through these maps. These are just the extents of the Safe Routes to School sidewalk projects that I just mentioned. And we also have a map that highlights all of the projects that we'll be going through today as one of the attachments to today's agenda. The next set of projects I'll discuss is the 2019 Street Reconstruction Project. This is a primarily roadway reconstruction project that does include some water upgrades and wastewater upgrades on Thomas, Hercules, Scripture, and Windsor. This is about a $13.7 million project, and construction is scheduled to be complete at the end of this calendar year. We're really excited about that. It was originally projected to be completed in quarter two of 2022, but thanks to the great leadership of our project manager and some better coordination with the contractor for this project, we're actually ahead of schedule. The remaining segments' primary impact will be to Woodrow Wilson Elementary, and we are working on ensuring that any of those segments that would be impacting school access will be completed during the summer months in order to mitigate impact on the school. West Hickory Street is a roadway reconstruction project that includes drainage system upgrades, sidewalk installation and pedestrian lighting installation from Welch to Carroll. This project has the most impact and is in the closest vicinity to Calhoun Middle School. The project has an estimate at completion, meaning what we think the project is going to cost at the end of the project of $3 million, and it's scheduled to be completed by the end of quarter three of 2021. Staff is coordinated with businesses, property owners, as well as DISD throughout the duration of this project and will continue to do so until the project is completed. Hickory Creek Road Phase Two is also a roadway widening where we're constructing about 1.3 miles of roadway, making it a four-lane roadway with median turn lanes. The project also includes drainage system upgrades, sidewalk installation and signal installation at Montecito, and we're estimating this project is going to cost a total of $6.8 million at completion. The project is actively under construction and is scheduled to be completed by the first quarter of 2022. That's calendar year 2022. Project will have the most direct impact on McNair Elementary School, so staff will continue to coordinate and communicate with McNair Elementary staff on planned traffic pattern changes and status updates for the duration of the project. I'll also note that we provide status updates to area residents as we hit those key milestones of 30% design, 90% design, and then throughout the duration of the project. And so the thought process there is we of course notify the property owners for the impacts that they have accessing their homes, but it also provides information to parents as they're taking their children if they have school-aged children to school. So that's another way that we try to get the word out. I didn't mention earlier, but we have the construction guide that we actually have go out semi-annually, and the construction guide is set to go out later this month. So a lot of this information that we're providing today will also be going out in the construction guide that we work with our public affairs department, and that should be hitting every single mailbox in the city of Denton, so notifying parents of some of those construction impacts that could affect their daily commute, taking their students to and from school. The next project I'll mention is FM 2181, and I do want to note that this is a TextDOT project, so it's primarily a TextDOT project where there is a small utilities component that's actually the city is wrapping up this month. So TextDOT is widening FM 2181 from Wind River to Barrel Strap to six lanes, and then the city has water and wastewater upgrades that they've incorporated into a part of the project. The city's portion of the project is estimated to cost a total of $7.05 million as we wrap up this month, and TextDOT's project is scheduled to be completed by quarter two of 2022. So I know we've had some water outages that have impacted LA Nelson Elementary. We coordinated very closely with LA Nelson Elementary. Our public affairs department was in constant contact with them when those outages occurred, and TextDOT, we're kind of passing the baton now that our portion of the project is completed, TextDOT is responsible for coordinating communication on the roadway widening project. So TextDOT has committed to providing temporary sidewalk connectivity to both Geyer as well as LA Nelson Elementary for the duration of the project. The next project I'll mention is in close proximity to FM 2181, and that is the Ryan Road widening project. This is a 2019 bond project that city council actually approved the design contract for 30% design for this project on Tuesday, February 23rd. This project includes roadway widening, drainage improvements, sidewalk installation, and street light installation for the full duration of Ryan Road for the roughly two mile stretch from FM 2181 to Country Club Road. We're still refining the scope since we're still in the very early phases of design. So we know right now we've got $4 million funded from the 2019 bond. We do not have a full estimate at completion just because, as I mentioned, we're still very much in the preliminary phases of developing this design for this project. So we're hopeful that this project, the design, will be completed in quarter three of 2021. As Kimley Horne is working on the design, we're also working with another firm on the development of solicitation documents for construction manager at risk. Our plan is to have this project be our first roadway project delivered with that alternate delivery method, and the thought process there is the construction manager at risk delivery method will just add a lot of predictability to this project and hopefully bring the project on time and on budget and shift some of the liability should there be any schedule or budgetary concerns from the city to the contractor. So our thought process is when we have the 30% design documents completed, we should also have those solicitation documents completed at the same time. So by the end of this calendar year, we should be able to advertise for that construction manager at risk and hopefully be able to begin construction sometime in 2022 for this project. This project is in close proximity to both LA Nelson Elementary and then, of course, Ryan Elementary is directly adjacent to and off of Ryan Road. So the staff will coordinate very closely with both schools on any traffic impacts and do our very best to mitigate impacts to students coming to and from school. The next projects I'll mention are the McKinney Phase 2 widening project and then the McKinney-Mayhill Intersection project. These are two separate projects but they're being managed by the same project manager and we also have the same contractor on these projects. So they involve roadway reconstruction, water upgrades, wastewater upgrades and drainage improvements from Loop 288 to Grissom and then, of course, the intersection project is that intersection of Mayhill and McKinney. So the McKinney Phase 2 roadway widening project has an estimated completion of $15.7 million and then the McKinney-Mayhill Intersection project has an estimated completion of about $4.8 million. We are scheduled to be complete with both projects quarter two of 2022. Likely, the intersection project will be completed by the end of this calendar year and staff has coordinated very closely with Ryan High School to ensure there are pedestrian accessibility throughout the duration of the project and we will continue to do so until the project is completed in 2022. The next project I'll mention is a utilities project. This project is the Crescent Water Line. It's been designed in-house and will be constructed in-house and it involves water upgrades on Crescent from Alice to Coit. This project is in closest proximity to the current Denton High School location, has an estimate at completion of $160,000 and is scheduled to be completed by quarter two of calendar year 2021. Staff is going to work to mitigate impacts to the Denton High School traffic and will definitely be in communication with Denton High School staff to ensure they're aware of the construction timing. The next project is the Northwood Sewer and I will note there is a Northwood Street. This is actually Wood Street, just the north side of Wood Street. It is a sewer upgrade project from McKinney to Paisley. The estimate at completion is $214,000 and this is another project that was designed in-house and will be constructed in-house and is scheduled to be completed by the end of quarter two of 2021. This project is located in closest proximity to the Davis Alternative Education School, so staff will continue to coordinate with the Davis staff to ensure that traffic impacts are minimized and to ensure that the school is aware of that construction schedule. The next project I'll mention is the Bonnie Bray Phase 6 project. So this is a continuation of the Bonnie Bray project from U.S. 380 to U.S. 77. It includes widening Bonnie Bray to a four-lane divided roadway, includes traffic signal upgrades, new sidewalks, drainage system improvements, water main upgrades, and then the installation of street lights. The total project budget is $30.5 million. We're hopeful to begin construction in quarter three 2021. We're currently in the process of developing the solicitation documents and we're also in right-of-way acquisition. So we're still optimistic that we are going to be able to sync up this project with the opening of the new Denton High School, but because we do have some uncertainties associated with that property acquisition, we're going to have to relocate some residents. We're currently projecting quarter one of 2023 as the completion date. And like I said, we're going to work very hard to try to move backwards from that and try to sync up the opening of this roadway with the new Denton High School opening in fall of 2022. During our monthly meetings that we have with DISD, this project is normally one of the top projects that we discuss. And so we've been in regular communication for the past several months, if not years, on this project with DISD staff. Most recently, we've been having conversations about the potential of including Riney Road extension for the future elementary school site as kind of a scope change to this Bonnie Bray phase six project. So this has been a heavy coordination effort and we're really pleased with the progress that we're making. Hopefully we'll be able to get that right of way acquired and sync up the project schedules, but we just have some unknowns on that right now. The last project I'll mention is associated with the Bonnie Bray phase six and opening of the new Denton High School and that is the West Gate project. This is actually a 2014 street reconstruction project from the 2014 bond. Project includes drainage upgrades, sewer and water upgrades, and then of course, the street reconstruction. The project has been designed in-house and has an estimated completion of $2.5 million. And this project will have some access concerns. As you can see on the screen, West Gate is the only way in and out for the residents of Barrow, Darby, and Flagger. And so we're just going to have to coordinate as we have the other construction going on, making sure that there is access to that neighborhood for the duration of the construction on this project. So with that, that's a lot that we've covered. There are certainly other construction projects happening in Denton. We actually have a CIP update scheduled for tomorrow's city council work session where Becky Devaney and Cassie Ogden are going to provide some high level overviews of other projects. But these are the projects that are located in close proximity to DISD facilities and that's what we wanted to highlight for today's presentation. So with that, I will turn it over to Julie Wyatt to provide an overview of private development projects impacting DISD. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. I'm Julie Wyatt. I'm senior planner with the City of Denton and I'm here to present some development projects that will impact in DISD. These are residential projects and they are moving forward so we wanted to highlight those for you. As Rachel mentioned earlier, we often talk to DISD about maybe specific projects when they move forward with zoning or related to construction for a specific school. But we don't often get to talk about these residential projects in a comprehensive way. So we're glad to bring these to you to give you kind of an overview of what's been going on within the City of Denton. So in order to organize the information, we have put it in kind of three buckets. We've got a bucket of pre-submittal projects, those projects that they haven't done a formal application with the city but they have approached the city and they've given us some information so we wanted to highlight those for you. We also want to talk about some projects that are kind of in that zoning part of the process where they're moving forward with a rezoning application that maybe hasn't been approved by City Council or maybe it was recently approved. And then the third bucket are those projects that are under development. So they're maybe platting the property or maybe under construction but not yet completed or maybe just under design. So we're going to go over those different buckets and then we're also going to talk about where those projects are within the city and how they relate to Denton ISD schools. So our first bucket are those pre-submittal bucket, those projects that haven't formally submitted but they have approached the city so we have kind of knowledge, a little bit of knowledge about them. So within that we have several projects. We have some multi-family projects. We have one single family project that may be moving forward there at the intersection of Loop 288 and Kings Row and then we have some build to rent projects. Those are kind of new and we don't have one within the city of Denton but they're essentially multi-family projects that are kind of designed as sort of a compact single family or maybe duplex neighborhood. So they're multi-family but they're kind of designed in a single family way. Taking all of these projects together, if they were all constructed they would result in about 1,500 dwelling units and that would potentially generate about 4,300 residents and about 465 students. I did want to talk briefly about how we arrived at these estimates. So we use the 2019 American Community Survey. What they have determined is the average household size for Denton County. So their estimate for 2019 indicates that the average household size in Denton County is 2.83 people and I did want to note that that is different from the 2010 census which is what we based our comprehensive plan on and that estimated a household size of about 2.52 people per household. So that household size is actually increasing within Denton County. And then as for the student estimates that is based upon the DISD community planning criteria. So I just want to note that these are estimates and they are approximations. So they're not specific numbers. Now I want to go into those projects that are seeking zoning or have a recently approved zoning case. So the top row of projects are those that have submitted for a zoning application. They have not been approved but I did want to mention those today and that includes several multi-family projects, a couple of single-family projects and then one townhome project. Then the second row includes a couple of single-family projects as well as a mixed density project. That mixed density project is Hunter Coal Ranch. You might be familiar with it. It will bring quite a few dwelling units to the city of Denton, about 20,000 and that's an approximation. And so when we total all of these together, if they were all approved and if they move forward with development, that would total about 22,000 dwelling units within the city of Denton. Using that American Community Survey household size, that would result in about 64,000 new residents in the city of Denton and about 11,000 students. And then I want to talk about those projects that are developing. So some of these you may have seen that they're maybe cutting streets through or some of the houses have been constructed but they're not completed or they may be just in the design phase, maybe designing the infrastructure in the street layout. And so there's a variety of where they are in the process. But when we total all of the multi-family projects that are in development, the single-family projects and then other projects, which would include things like triplexes and fourplexes in townhomes, those middle residential project types, they come to about 8,800 dwelling units. And that could generate about 25,000 new residents within the city of Denton or about 3,300 students. And I was thinking about what this means this morning as I was getting ready for the presentation. And so I looked at what the current census, what the current population is within the city of Denton as the census estimates it. And in 2019, they estimated our population at 141,000 approximately. So by adding these additional residents, it's going to increase Denton's population quite a bit. And now I want to talk about where these projects are within the city of Denton and how they relate to Denton ISD schools. So in order to organize this data, we looked at the high school attendance boundaries and we looked at where those projects were in relationship to those attendance boundaries. And then our GIS created these maps that geo-located these projects within those attendance boundaries. So this is that overall map. You'll see that the projects in blue, those are in the Ryan High School attendance boundary. Those in red are Denton High School. And this map does not include Hunter Cole because it's kind of off to the side. So just know that this map doesn't include that project, but we're going to talk about those numbers in just a minute. And then in yellow are those projects that would affect Geier High School. Those in purple are kind of on the cusp of the Denton High School and Ryan High School attendance boundaries. So now we're going to zoom in on each of these, each of these colors and kind of look a little more closely at them. So for that Ryan High School zone, all of those areas in blue, when we total up all of those projects, and let me just say that this includes projects that have submitted for a rezoning or are under development. It doesn't include that first bucket since they haven't submitted. So then some of these projects are not approved. So just, I wanted to highlight that, but some of them are under under construction now. So when we total all of these projects up, it's about 6,100 dwellings, an estimated number of students of about 2,400. Within the Denton High School zone, it totals up to about 2,400 students, I'm sorry, 24,000 dwellings and about 11,000 students. And just, I also wanted to point out this does include that Hunderkohl Ranch, so it's got that 20,000 number of dwellings. And then this attendance boundary also includes the UNT area. And so some of these projects are maybe more college student driven, so they may not generate Denton ISD students. But so that might affect the numbers a little bit, but these are all of the projects within that Denton High School attendance boundary. And then finally, we have the Geyer High School zone. And this is kind of our smallest number of projects. Based upon the calculation, this would estimate, the total number of proposed dwellings would generate about 310 students. And that concludes my presentation. I'll be happy to answer any questions. Okay. Thank you. And President Burns, do you want to start with questions from the ISD? Yes, thank you very much. Does anyone have a question? Okay. Mrs. Prox? I actually have a question from Rachel. Okay. When you were talking about the Ryan Road project, widening that, that's not counting what's going on right now on Ryan Road. Am I correct in assuming that the reason it's partially closed right now? That's correct. I believe the work that's happening right now is associated with the multifamily development that's occurring at the corner of Ryan Road and Teasley. And so there's a temporary closure, but that's not associated with the 2019 Bond Street Reconstruction Project. So are you going to give us like a little break where it's going to be open before it gets done? I live in the area as well. So trust me, I want to have that, that roadway opened and have construction in the area completed. That's part of why we're going with the construction manager at risk methodology is that's just going to give a little more predictability to the project. And so there will be a break. As I mentioned, we're only going to 30% design by quarter three of 2021. So we don't have, since we're still refining the schedule, we don't have a complete project schedule yet, but I anticipate there will be a good bit of a break between the work that's happening with the private development project right now and the Street Reconstruction Project that we are hopeful to begin construction sometime in calendar year 2022 on for the 2019 Bond Street Reconstruction Project. This will all be fabulous when it's done. It's just all happening at one time, as you well know, with everything happening, everybody's worried about everything. But it will be wonderful when it's finished. We appreciate it. I'm not complaining. Thank you, Ms. Burns. Julie, I want to commend you on the presentation. There's a lot going up. It's clear there's a lot going on. And you are doing a wonderful job of keeping up with it. And I know some of it is just keeping up. I have a question on the Ryan High zone map. In particular, the development on North Sherman Drive, Hartley Field Road. That development has generated a lot of citizen concern about access south of the development back through the neighborhood in that area. And I know you don't have any final plans, but how do you go about responding to some of the questions that have been raised there? And in particular, we're concerned about traffic patterns around Hodge Elementary. Could you give us any sense of how that will move forward as that project develops? Right now, it's in the zoning phase. Staff is actually still reviewing that project. We haven't made a recommendation yet. So that is all part of our analysis, is how the cars move about, how that project develops, what the phasing is, and then its effect on our infrastructure and schools are part of our criteria for approval. So I don't know how it's going to move forward at this point. They do have a proposed phasing. So they are proposing about 1,500 dwelling units. As it's proposed right now, it would be phased. So it would be over, you know, 10 plus years. And they are, as part of their development, they have looked at a school site that staff has been looking at, wanting to make sure it meets any criteria for approval. So we're still analyzing it and still trying to find the answers to those questions as well. In a development like that, where existing roadways are sized for the current population traveling around that area, if the plan involves using some of those existing roadways, does the developer, do you all get the developer to participate in the costs of expanding existing roadways, if necessary, that are outside their development? I'm thinking again, the road goes around hodge. So the way the city of Denton approaches the infrastructure is that developers do pay impact fees, roadway impact fees, based upon their impact to the infrastructure. They also often have to improve those roadways that are adjacent to their site. So it's kind of those roadways that are adjacent to their site, there would be requirements for improvements. And then additionally, they would pay roadway impact fees to, for maintaining and improving the system. Great. Thank you very much. I appreciate your helpful feedback in that regard. Yes, I'm concerned about the multifamily buildings. I'm sorry. I'll start again. I'm very concerned about the multifamily buildings, especially the ones that I noticed anyway are far north. And that's close to where I live. So that's how I noticed them. Are you building all around the city with a lot of multifamily buildings? So the Denton development code has several residential types that it permits and there are several zoning districts that permit multifamily. So, you know, they kind of applicants seek approval of a multifamily project. And that's kind of dependent on, you know, where they come in. And then we look at that and look at the infrastructure associated with that multifamily project. And then staff, you know, if it does require a zoning application, staff makes a recommendation based upon the criteria for approval for that, for that project type. And then we do have those zoning districts that would permit multifamily and we look at those projects to make sure they meet the code requirements and any criteria for approval related to those. And who decides on them? Who made the decision that multifamily homes would never be in a certain area or that they would be in a certain area? And how does the public know about that? I am so sorry. Could you repeat your question? I think I missed the middle part. Well, and Julie, I think I can speak to it generally and then you can pick up and fix what I say. So and hello, Dr. Smith. I think the the answer is that or the question was around how those multifamily sites are selected and who kind of guides those decisions on if they're allowed there. And so I'll piggyback off what Julie touched on in that you have an entire set of options to build within a particular zoning. So a particular zoning may allow one through five different housing options. And so the planning and zoning board would listen to those and see if any of those options fit. And then there's a level of specificity as it moves forward. Now let Julie kind of touch on that process going forward. I think you did great. Yes, you're exactly right. Each zoning district has a certain number of permitted uses and there are some zoning districts that allow multifamily. And I would also add that these sort of flow from our comprehensive plan. So our Denton plan 2030, which was adopted in 2015, sort of looked at those areas of the city that we wanted more density or lower density. And that was based upon a process that the city undertook with a vision for the city and looking at the infrastructure and looking at those areas where you would want to see additional density. So, so Mayor Hetspeth is absolutely right. That zoning those zoning districts kind of kind of outline where the city and where that growth, that type of growth would go. And who makes that decision? Who makes the decision as to which area will have density and which will not? Well, zoning is, is adopted by city council through the dual public hearing process. So especially when somebody's going to come in and, and request to rezone a property, they do have to go through that public hearing process. We do recommend that they reach out to, to the neighboring property owners and have neighborhood meetings. And then, and then they, they go to the planning and zoning commission after a notification is sent out. The state only requires that cities notify property owners within 200 feet of any project project. The city actually goes further and that we require residents within 500 feet of any rezoning request be notified. And then we also require an applicant to post signs on the property. So we want to make sure we keep the public engaged as much as possible. And then it does go to the planning and zoning commission for a recommendation and then ultimately city council for a decision. But if you're just putting out a sign or you're asking a neighbor, what, how does that really, how is that fair to the whole city? A lot of traffic and, and, and also cause us to have to build a school where maybe there's not a property school because we have so many people living in that area. And Dr. Smith, you're, you're spot on. And what we've seen is a, there's areas where, and, and I'll allow Julie to fix my answer, but I'll give the just of it. There's areas where apartment complexes or multifamily in that way can be built by right. And so there's, there's some instances where the city is not able to participate in those discussions because that, that list of allowed uses is, is, is pre-approved if you will. And that's that comprehensive plan. And that's the, we, we just completed a kind of an overview of our zoning across the city and that's where we can make those adjustments in large swaths. But there are still instances where complexes can be built by right. And that's the challenge because those don't come to the council or the zoning board for adjustments, modifications, that sort of thing. And, and, and I think you're seeing some of those instances because this council has rejected some multifamily requests just due to exactly what you touched on infrastructure concerns, sidewalk concerns or populations. And so your, your, your points are very valid and spot on. And, and I think, Julie, I think a couple of things there, if you could touch on by right, and then if you could also touch on, obviously we're coming forward a new comprehensive plan and maybe that's an opportunity to provide that information to the, the ISD so that they can gather their thoughts and, and provide those as well to, to participate in that process as well as their, their parents. That's exactly right. Yes, I can touch on those two things. So yes, by right would be something that would be permitted within a zoning district where city council wouldn't have any further purview over that. It could just be permitted as long as they meet all of the dimensional and site design requirements within the development code and, and, and that criteria for approval, then council would not see that project. In terms of, and of comprehensive planning, yes, we are kicking off an update to our comprehensive plan and we definitely want to keep Denton ISD involved in that. It's a, it's a necessary and important part of our infrastructure and serving our community. And so I believe that will be coming forward this year. And I, we're working, I believe we're working on getting those plans and together to, to kick that project off. And we'll definitely keep Denton ISD involved in that. Thank you. Mayor Hunston, thank you. And Julie, thank you very much for addressing those concerns. Dr. Wilson would like to speak at this point. Thank you, Ms. Burns. And first of all, Julie, thank you so much and dear husband for having us at the table as a school district when these developments come online. The questions that Dr. Smith had asked, she asked me all the time about density and number of students in schools and those kinds of things. So she's definitely spot on with regard to the impact of those things. The thing I want to make sure everybody gets from our board in the city council is the school district is at the table with the city and we discussions all the time, not for approval or denial of what gets built there because you can't really tell somebody what they can can't do with their property when you don't zoning qualifications already. So, but the impact to our communities will be where we spend our time and how and whether or not it makes sense in the long term use of our property within the city and within the school district. And so there are all these little trigger and mesh points with multifamily versus single family versus the numbers that go into all of it. But if you look at our partnership and how we plan for that, it would surprise everyone. So Julie and her team and everyone involved, it really is a huge plus along the way. The other thing is, we have quite a few people in our community who are looking for affordable housing, so we have to weigh those things. And it's a big, it's a, it is a big thing to try to solve. And it's not that you ever really solve it, you're just constantly addressing it. And you have to speed up and slow down and change directions and mitigate as you see fit so that we make sure we have a quality of life for our citizens and a quality school system for our students all the way up and down the line. So Julie, thank you for your continued partnership and the way that we're at the table with that. Mayor Hudson and to the city council, the staff is doing a super job of making sure we're there and we understand the impact of that. And that's probably one of the reasons every four or five years you have a bond package from the ISD that comes forward for new schools and new facilities or expansions or renovations to other ones. That is what we do for being progressive in our thought and trying to take care of our citizens. I think we should appreciate it. Thank you. Yes. Mr. Stafford. A couple of things. As I saw the maps of all the road improvements, it made me really glad I've been voting for your bond issues because that's where that's all coming from and you're doing a great job with it. Anticipating and facilitating the infrastructure and the growth that is inevitable here. But I did want to throw in one thing. As a private citizen in my capacity as a real estate broker, last week I had a bunch of questions and didn't know the answers to and I just placed a phone call to the city. Got to the planning department and luck of the drop, Julie Wyatt answered the cell phone. And I came away from that conversation very impressed with how pleasant, knowledgeable, helpful. It was a really great experience and I've heard all kinds of criticism through time about it's really hard to work in the city. Certainly it was not my experience. And I think the fact that people do like to criticize, they don't often compliment you. And I think you should all know that you have people on your staff that do a great job. Thank you very much for that. Thank you. President Burns, any other questions from your board? I think that's it. Thank you very much for your question. Outstanding. Thank you. Okay. So for my peers, any questions for staff? Mayor Pro Tem Davis. Thank you, Mayor. This isn't a question for staff, but just kind of a quick follow on the apartment multifamily conversation. Our constituents on this side also have lots of questions about those multifamily projects. You can be assured that when they're close to a neighborhood, we hear quite a bit from that neighborhood. We also have a lot of citizens who are paying close attention to those projects, even if they don't live anywhere in the area. So putting it on our agenda, putting those signs out, sending out those mailers, it really does get a lot of attention out of those projects. And we spend a lot of time working with our constituents on changes we might ask for in the project before we grant zoning. We have lots of conversations about the appropriateness of those. And I just had a conversation this morning with a group of realtors where they wanted to know, are these multifamily projects changing the character of our city? Are they changing us into something that we weren't 20 years ago? And we do have more multifamily projects coming on. I mean, it's objectively true that there are more apartments coming into Denton than there used to be. But we're also in the middle of a big conversation over here on the subject of affordable housing. And there is not an affordable housing conversation that can be had in Denton with our growing population that does not include substantial increase in our multifamily inventory. If you want to have affordable housing in Denton, it's got to include substantial increase in the number of apartments we have to offer. So I think that that dovetails a lot with y'all's mission in the school district as well. We serve a lot of the same populations and we all serve the whole community. But your concerns are well noted over here and it's something that we think about quite a bit. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions for staff? Okay. Seeing none, the notes I had for staff with respect to the, I think Rachel touched on the construction mail guide going out and we may order already, but just wanted to touch on the fact that we should make sure we give the Denton ISD a heads up when that's going out so they'll kind of maybe they can do some messaging as well to those recipients to make sure they're anticipating that arriving in the mail and maybe that'll generate some feedback and questions for us. And then also with respect to the text dot handoff project that Rachel touched on, just wanted to make sure we've provided our contact. So I'd hate for the city of Denton to be in constant contact and then we hand off the text dot and that potentially slipped through the cracks. So if we handed off who we've been communicating with to make sure that Denton ISD has that information. We will certainly do so. We can share that contact information with Dr. Wilson as well as with Gary Ryan to make sure they have that and just because the project is transitioning and it's fully a text dot project now that we're wrapping up the utility portions of the project, we'll still be in regular communication as city staff with text dot for the duration of the FM 2181 project as well. Okay, great. And then the last note I had was Trustee Chadwick mentioned, Hartley-Phil rolled that development and I guess my question would be on the communication of kind of how we want, what's the best way can you outline, so if they're telling interested parties in that area that may contact them, if someone reached out to DISD and said I'm concerned about Hartley-Phil rolled that development, what message should they give on their end, who's the best person to contact on a city's end so that they can get answers or provide that feedback or that sort of thing. So just want to make sure we have that connectivity. We all get, just like Mayor Pro Tem mentioned, there's kind of that we serve the same populace, so there may be messaging that is directed at the ISD that I'd like to make sure is passed along to the right channels for the city. So that's actually my project. So you can always direct it toward me and I'll make sure that I can get any further information that I have, I can provide to anyone who has concerns. They can also reach out to Scott McDonald, who's our Director of Development Services, or Richard Canone, who's our Planning Director. So any of those people will have all of that information related to the Hartley-Phil project. Perfect. Okay. Thank you very much. All right. Any other questions on the Denton City Council side of this particular item? Okay. Councilmember Johnson. Mayor Husspels, would you please tell someone to just address that built by right issue so that it can be made plain as far as building and putting things in different zonings and places? Certainly. Thank you. Yes. So Julie, do you want to give us another run at that and kind of frame that just for those that may not have tracked well with that or don't have a lot of experience in that? Absolutely. So yes, that is a project that is, that use is approved in that district. There are no other approvals that would be required by city council. It wouldn't have to go to the Planning and Zoning Commission for a recommendation. The code just allows it. It would have to meet any, you know, the parking requirements and the landscaping requirements. It would have to meet all of those, but the use is permitted. It fits under that umbrella in that district. Yes. It's the items that are approved already that can be built in that district. You don't have to have come to council for an exception or other, you know, changing the zoning, anything like that, because it's already identified in that district as an item that's accepted. Great. Okay. Councilmember Johnson, we all good? Okay. Thank you very much. Great question. Great point. It's important to make sure that's easy to understand. Okay. Seeing no other questions. Any other questions for the DISD board? Mayor, this is Sarah. I would like to reiterate what the Superintendent Wilson said earlier about the, when he was talking about the SRO program, but it's the same here for the capital projects and the developments, and that is the city needs to be connected at the hip with the school district as we move forward because the city is growing so rapidly and the various areas are growing out. It's imperative that our staff and the school district staff stay in lockstep to ensure that we aren't seeing projects that go out without them being aware. We're not doing capital projects that aren't, they're not aware of, and that it closes an ability for egress and ingress. So our staff do a tremendous job, and I do want to thank Rachel and Julie, because I know that they do work very closely with the school district, but I just want to emphasize even more now with the growth, it's going to be imperative. Excellent. Thank you. Great point. Okay. So we, so item C is ID 21332 on our end, and it's receive report hold and hold a discussion regarding an update from Denton Independent School District on the 87th session of the Texas Legislature. And I'm going to turn that to Dr. Wilson. Thank you, Ms. Burns. Thank you, Mayor Hudspeth, and thank you to the council for allowing us to have this agenda topic. Our point here and our goal here is for you all to see where we are and what we're working towards with this next legislative session. All knowing that that was pre-winter storm, you know, work that we've been doing between sessions and everything else. So we just, it's a given that we know we're working through all of our winter storm issues as we work through, those undoubtedly will take precedence. Our staff, Darren Robinson, is here as our general counsel that will lead you through our legislative priorities and our legislative items. At some point in the future, you know, prior to our Denton County days and those kinds of things, we usually have a resolution of some sort from all of us that are supporting each other's initiative and the things that we're working through. Not trying to get into you all establishing your priorities or you and us establishing ours. We've already worked and done all our issues that we're working through, but we want to share those with you so that you know what they were. So as we move through the session and if Representative Stuckey or Senator Nelson or Senator Springer or someone says something to you about some of these items, you'll at least have a little bit about the school district where we stand on these topics. So that being said, I'll turn it over to Mr. Robinson to lead you through those. Thank you, Dr. Wilson. Good morning, city council, board members. I'm really excited to visit with you all just a little bit. I'm going to share my screen. We're going to provide you just a real 30,000 foot overview of our legislative priorities. We, of course, included an attachment that provides a little bit more in depth discussion. We will, of course, answer any questions you might have as a as a sole creature of statute. What what happens in the legislature, of course, is quite important to us here in ISD. And so we take it very, very, it's a very important duty of ours to stay up to date with what is happening in the legislature. So I'm going to real quickly share a broad look at our at our at our legislative priorities. And so real quickly, what you can see is we identified nine major major priorities. And again, I'm more than happy to discuss any of them that you'd like. But but the things that I really want to highlight first off would be something that I believe affects both of us. And that's going to be our our school finance situation. Was, as you all know, didn't ISD employees over four thousand individuals here within the community. And so it's very important to us that we that we maintain our our public education funding, which is, of course, the duty of the of the Texas legislature under the Texas Constitution. And so, as many of you know, back in the 86 legislative session, the legislature made a large commitment to Texas taxpayers to provide a boost to public education funding and hopefully take a little bit of that burden away from local taxpayers to to the statewide budget level through House Bill 3. So those promises that were made back in 2019 were significant importance to us. We are happy to report that both the Texas House and Texas Senate, their preliminary budgets have both included funding to maintain the the promises made through House Bill 3. And that's significant for a lot of reasons. And House Bill 3 is a extremely long, omnibus bill. But but I do want to mention that there's a few things that we think are are primarily important to us. And that is House Bill 3 finally took funding and started targeting students that are at risk and students that are low socioeconomic, which is really where Texas schools have struggled over the past probably 15 to 20 years. House Bill 3 is really, in my opinion, a step in the right direction to direct funds towards students that struggle primarily in our schools. So it's a it's a great it was a really good start. And both, like I said, both the Senate and the House have committed to ongoing those support levels. Regarding our regarding something that I also believe impacts both of us directly and that's our we would like to maintain our ability to advocate for local taxpayers through associations or lobbyists. We didn't I see does not directly employ any lobbyists, but we do join associations that lobby on behalf of our local taxpayers. I firmly believe that that provides our taxpayers a tremendous service in the in the realm of of trying to diminish poor legislation that costs us money here at the local level. And I could give you I could give you a lot of a lot of examples of what I would believe are poor examples of legislation that costs us money here, but just suffice it to say that that I really believe that the ability for us to lobby to have people in Austin every day during a session. Who can who can provide information to our elected officials down down at the state level about what legislation will actually mean in practice is tremendous is a tremendous benefit to our local taxpayers. I believe it saves taxpayers millions if not billions of dollars every year, but we shall see you know how that turns out this legislative session. One of the primary issues that right now we're we're really spending a lot of time on would be what we call the hold harmless. Now, as many of you may know, Texas is one of 16 states that does not fun in on enrollment we fund on attendance and which is which means it's very important for us to have kids in person, or as we are now online every day for us to receive funding we can we can have a lot of students enrolled, but if they don't attend class we don't receive any money for. And so, like I said we're in the minority when it comes to states, but that is what Texas has chosen to do. So, through the first semester of the year, ta has held us harmless meaning they are they're paying us essentially based on enrollment, there's a lot of other factors but that's it in a broad sense. They have that hold harmless has ended, and there is much discussion about what that will mean to us moving forward we are hopeful that the state legislature and ta, the text education agency determines to prolong that hold harmless because what we have right now is we have some students that either we anticipated to enroll and did not enroll primarily that's going to occur in the in the younger grade levels or students who we simply cannot find one of the things. Texas House education chairman, Harold Dutton from Houston suggested that there will be a hold harmless but one of the requirements will be that school districts try to find our students that we can't find, which is really not an issue for us because we have been doing just that we've had administrators and personnel going door to door to try to find students who have essentially no showed since the pandemic hit last year. At this time, we have had administrators out knocking on doors to try to find students to get them enrolled back in school. So we have already been making these efforts. So if the win, and if the Texas legislature finds it, deems it worthy to provide us a hold harmless, whatever the requirements are that they have on us to find those students does not worry us because, like I said, we've been doing that all along. The other issue that that is necessary, not necessarily on our on our priorities, but is has become a major issue for us now recently would be the ability to provide online school. So, as many of you know, last year at this time we did a an about face and moved from completely online to I'm sorry to completely in person to completely online school, which is something that had never occurred in the history of education in this state or anywhere for that matter. And so we were tasked with with completely switching gears and I say we of course I mean our teachers and administrators who have really done a Herculean job of getting this all done. And so right now it didn't I see we have about 8000 students who attend online. That is, of course, their, their decision they can turn they, they may attend in person if they choose, or they may attend online and we still have 8000 students who are attending online and which is, which is generally that's much larger than the average school district size in the state of Texas. So we have a lot of kids that are online. We're also five months away from the beginning of the 2021 2022 school year. And so for those of you all that have children that will probably surprise and scare you a little bit that we're right around the corner from starting school. And we do not know if we will be able to provide online school next year because TEA has yet to tell us if we can. And for those that don't know or if you do have kids in school you know this already. Last summer, we were completely up in the air as far as what we were going to be able to provide what the, what the 2020 2021 school year was going to look like. TEA, Texas Education Agency, started giving us guidelines in June and then changed those guidelines all throughout until the final, the final week of July of 2020 is when we finally received our okay from TEA of what we could actually do in school. So if you think about that, we were set to begin classes in about two weeks and TEA finally said okay this is what you can do. And so we know that created a lot of frustration for parents, I can guarantee you it created a lot of frustration for teachers and staff and administrators. We hope that TEA will not put us in the same position for this year. We would like to think that TEA will give us the ability to provide a, just as we are now, some type of mixed online and in-campus opportunity for our students, because we don't know for certain that all 8,000 of those students that attend virtually right now will be okay with attending in person in August in five months. The statistics suggest that they probably will not be. And so we hope that TEA will give us the leeway to do that so that we can really, that we can really make some adjustments to our to our next school year. And so those are really some of our large, our large big rock items, if you will, that we're that we're worried about at this at this at this moment. And with that I'll be happy to be happy to answer any questions y'all might have. I do want to mention one thing that is an ongoing project right now for our for our district. And that is the district has been working diligently on creating a a online online pathway for our students in the hopes that TEA will give us give us that opportunity. Now, that is not just because many students are attending virtually right now due to the pandemic and due to COVID-19. But that's also if you think about it from a operational standpoint, the ability to have students attend online rather than just being in person could provide us a tremendous amount of latitude when it comes to particularly our secondary students. So if you think about secondary students who may attend multiple campuses, may attend dual credit, may attend the ATC, the Career Center, the Lagrone Career Center, those students, if they could attend some classes online, instead of having to be be in person at all of these different campuses, we could really do some some creative strategies to assist those students. And so really, if you if you're thinking about what's best for our students, and that's really at the crux of every decision we make is what's best for our students, the ability to to provide these these these mixed learning opportunities online and in person, along with TEA extending that hold harmless out through through the end of this year, those are some some really some big things that we believe we could really make a difference in in some kids with some kids studies through those methods. So with that, I will, I will stop. And like I said, I'm, I'm happy I wanted to provide you brought over you, I will answer any questions you have anything in particular, glad to glad to discuss or answer any questions. Okay. President Burns, do you, do you. Is it okay if we start. You're too kind. Thank you. Councilmember Meltzer. Yeah, thank you. I noticed you described HP three as a really good start 1000 tended to sound like damning with faint praises there. You know what would you say is left if that's just to start and what it is that you're hoping to see in this legislative session that would go beyond just a good start. Well, that's a that is a great question and as an attorney I appreciate you catching my turn to praise. I did not mean it to be frank praise House Bill three is fantastic it really is a great piece of legislation. However, I will say what if you talk to many educational experts and I'm a school law expert but I'm not an education expert that if that makes sense. But every educator I've ever spoken to. When you ask them, is there such thing as a silver bullet in education most of them will tell you no, but the closest you can find would be early childhood education. And so what we find in Texas and I will offer, you know, Dr. Wilson or anyone else can jump in at any point but what we find in Texas is a lot of our students that struggle, particularly in reading by third grade. It's because they don't have access to high quality pre K. And so again, you're probably going to be talking about your students that are low socio economic students, right, who cannot afford it. Now, now what asked Bill three did is they they did not House Bill three does not fund full day pre K. Now that's, that's typically what a lot of folks will say is it funded pre K fully pre K that's not exactly what it did. Now what it provided is a is an early childhood educational allotment for any students that are low socio economic between grades K through three. And so there's a little bit of extra weight that we can use in towards towards full day pre K. The legislature requires us to go if we offer any pre K we have to go full day, but they didn't necessarily provide direct funding for that. So if you see that it's very nuanced, but in a in a perfect world where, you know, obviously, scarce resources are always our concern. If, if there were funding for it in a perfect world, full day pre K funding for all low socio economic students that that that would be, you know, that would be one of the largest factors that many educational experts will tell you could really make a huge impact on our third grade reading stores and really getting our low socio economic and at risk students up to a to a certain level. So, if you ask, that's, that's my point, but having said that please don't take it as any as a negative on House Bill three House Bill three was was great, I just would suggest that I don't like thinking of House Bill three as the finishing line, if you will. Yeah. Another go around for coming back. Yes. You can see those five things in there that are really really everything you see in our legislative priorities are designed around those five outcomes. The number one most important thing, making sure our faculty and staff, these are not necessarily American War of Importance but we did put faculty and staff recognized and appreciated. There was some dollars in there for teacher compensation that we tripled. For the most part, what did we pass on to our teachers and work through. There's a couple of little nuances in the bill last time that we have to get our hands around. One of those is called the teacher incentive alignment, which provides quote unquote Mary pay, which if you're not careful is designed on just a one day high stakes test which is not in line with what we think our school system. We've got to work through some of those things. Reading on radio by the end of third grade we know the importance of reading on radio by the end of third grade, hence you see our commitment to full day pre K, we would like to see full day pre K universal for all students, not just low income students but for all students. That's a challenge in a fast growth district where we're struggling to build classrooms because of the number of people we have moving in the area. And that leads to another part of HB3 which was the fast growth schools alignment, which provides some additional dollars to impacted school districts. Because you have you're going so so quickly. And so then if you look down at the other the other things about algebra one what we know about algebra one is that algebra one gets you into an awkward to our kids mastering out for one. This is crucial because what happens when kids are not successful in classes in high school. And that is, it takes away their opportunity for professional certification classes for career technology classes for other electives that develop them as adults, which gets us to our number five thing about graduates meeting college career standards, frankly, I don't think people talk about for school districts, and what's your public school system should do the number one thing should be when kids graduate. Are they ready for college, the military workforce or professional certification. We should all strive for 100% of our graduates to fall in those buckets. The numbers along the way or just indicators that get us there. Every kid may not be ready to be reading on radio on the end of third grade. That doesn't mean we can't get them to where they need to be by the time they graduate. And that is why HB3 is a good start, because you're seeing the emphasis on college and career readiness standards. The part that we've got to go back to an address are the over emphasis on some of these benchmarks along the way. They're frankly designed to make public schools look like they're not doing their jobs when in essence they really are. And I think that's why you see that number nine on the legislation about local taxpayers for certain right to to involve in state policy and law on behalf of taxpayers. I mean, if that legislation goes through TML, Texas Association of School Boards. All those organizations, TASO, will no longer be able to educate our local officials on the impact of the laws that are proposed. And so, HB3 is a big, large, encompassing one. It was in the works for about three sessions. It took a while to get there. If you look at these guiding statements and outcomes, these five guiding statements and outcomes, we've been working with these for the past five years. They're almost lockstep of what HB3 work towards, right? Could be a coincidence, could be the fact that I'm pretty noisy when it comes to the Commissioner. I don't know. But I will say that what you say is a great question about a great start. You don't ever know the indirect consequences of an ominous bill until you see where it lies. One of those is making sure that we understand the importance of early childhood education on a more global scale. And then the last one would be that we really see our focus as being college, career, military ready as a community, job creation. That's what brings business and industry to depth is what's the workforce? What kind of employees am I going to have? How does that work? Two universities here, we are for sure focused on getting students ready for college. And the same thing is the workforce readiness and our biggest partners here in Peterbilt. It's an important aspect. So I think you'll see that this legislation is directly designed to keep resources here in our local community and continue to work through that reauthorization and attitude taken away from HB3. I think we'll see some of that this spring. Okay, thank you for that. I appreciate that. And Councilmember Meltzer, you said you had another? Yeah, I've got a few, but if others are waiting, I'm happy to wait till you come back around as you wish. No, no, go right ahead. Thank you. Thank you. So, you know, Superintendent Wilson, I also noted that in your document about the kind of critique of high stakes testing, high stakes one day testing. And so, but what I didn't quite glean was, what is it that legislatively that that we advocate as the alternative to teaching to the test, I get that that's way overdone, but how do we ensure accountability? What's the, you know, alternative path that we would like to see reflected. So, Mr. Meltzer, that's a great question as well. And here's what I will tell you. It's not the state's job to evaluate every school district in the state of Texas. You can do that from a stratified random sample of students, not testing every student at every grade level, every content area every year. It's a school district's job to communicate how their kids are progressing each and every year with teachers to students, with school districts, teachers to students and teachers to parents and school districts to parents. We just think that the state should get out of trying to be the reporting agency to parents on how their students are progressing and put that back to the teacher and back to the school district, so that we can then determine locally what we value. And let's take the $500 million for spending on high stakes testing and reduce that to 10% of that number and do a stratified random sample and make tests across the country has been doing that for 15 or 20 years without issues. If you want to know how systems are doing, you don't have to test every kid, every grade level, every content area, and that's statistical sampling. What a concept. I mean, that's the whole thing right. I mean, it's the whole thing is that that's not their responsibility. I mean, sometimes I think that people think they're helping us with that more governance of testing. That's not what helps that just takes instructional time away from our teachers, for example, why in the world do we think we have to test kids this year. Right. Even the ones here at home are supposed to come in and test. Okay, really, we're not going to come so appear to test and come all year in person, why they don't come on that day. So it's just a matter of really trying to make sure that we maximize our instruction and our learning time for those pieces, nobody wants accountability more than I do. Right. But I want to take up a capital to every kid that walks through these doors and their families. Right. And when it comes to the business community work out of the business community for helping produce graduate thinking that can fulfill the jobs that they have. And they can move on to college career and military so it needs to be more localized, if not a one size fits all standard, and I'm pretty passionate about that so let's go next one. Thanks for help. This is, I'm just so glad we have these sessions so I can, you know, kind of hear the 360 degree point of view. I just got a couple more and they're narrower. As, as we prepare our students to be ready for workforce or college or military or whatever their, you know, life path is going to be is there a role, maybe it's already in the curriculum so I confess ignorance, but is there a role for a little bit of civics anymore so people know how the government works and how they can participate. Absolutely, I think we have that we have that intertwined about everything that we do. The thing I think is interesting is you get more and more about if you have less and less preparing for the test, because civics is not measured on quantitative question as piece. You know, I want to know if people are willing to help their neighbor, and people are willing to do what it takes to make a community stronger. And I think that's, that's what civics work, yes, understanding government, understanding all those things are important part of that. But the other part of that is your local community, local and global community, not just what's in the back of the textbook or how that works. It's, it's in there we just have to continue to continue this driving one something. And you need, and you need room to keep that on the plate I get that my last. Could I could I could I mentioned something real quick. Please on that on that I'm sorry on that topic. I just want to add to what Dr. Wilson said, one of the things that everyone needs to realize to and many of you probably do but the. The State Board of Education creates the text essential knowledge and skills attiques that we have to test that we're required to test all schools across the state have to test. And, and those include, for example, in the K through five arena those include social studies which includes civics, and I know because I've actually taught second and third grade civics to my daughter. When she was younger but what you also have to realize is that, of course, history and social studies, every day that goes by gets gets bigger. Right, our teeth keep growing. And so what you have is you have social studies, which is growing every year, but it's not tested. So what is tested is reading and math. So for example, my fourth grade daughter, when she's in third grade, math and reading are tested, but social studies is not yet social studies has by far the largest number of takes. So what tends to happen is our teachers are teaching civics and social studies, but the state is telling those teachers hey this isn't really important, but you got a lot of them you got to cover, you got to cover them, but they're not really important. And so I believe our teachers do a great job of cramming a lot into it to relatively short amount of time, but I think that's important to keep in mind too. Thank you. You know, I mean we can talk about this for hours but I'm keeping my window narrow. Just last point I'll roll out, I don't think it's really a question but just maybe a question for us together. Maybe between legislative sessions. I know our delegations super busy right now, but maybe between delegations, we ought to see them at some of these meetings. I'm done. Okay. Thank you. Great questions. And any other questions on the city council, Councilmember Johnson. Okay. Mr. Robinson. I'm wondering, with the fact that you're saying that it's 8000 students that are virtual, and that they you are paid according to attendance and not enrollment. Is there a way to perhaps move these funds around and perhaps create a pre K. Can be funded. Well, so I think we've done a really good job of funding as much as we can right now. But, do you mean because students are in person we could use funds in a different manner. I apologize. Right, that's what I'm asking because you're saying that it's according to attendance and not enrollment. And with that being said, that would mean that you're not receiving quite as much funds because of this. Am I correct so far. And with that being said, there is some money somewhere floating there. Is there any way that those mechanism can be moved around that we can perhaps have the pre K added. So, you know, I would suggest that in theory, if, if we had a long, a true long range plan from the state of how we could, how we could reimagine schools, after, after the covert 19 pandemic. You know, that's a pretty robust pre K. But of course, unfortunately, what the limiting factor is we don't have a true long range plan from the, from the state right now, except for going back to status quo pre coven as much as we know right now, which, again, you know, five minutes, five months from the beginning of school for next year we're, we're still waiting to find out what we what schools and look like next year. So if we ever have a true long range plan from the state we we might could, we might could make some adjustments we just we just don't have that ability right now. Real quick and Johnson, you bring up a good point that I want to make sure everybody understands that we do have a thousand students that are learning at home. We also have teachers assigned to them. We also have technology provided them with Wi Fi access provided them and expenses that go with those 8000 students, and we are getting funded on those 8000 students. Which is, we've already incurred expenses for every single student that we anticipate becoming this like this next year and staffed accordingly. So we were the impression we would have 31,000 so many so many students. And then you budget on that number coming. And then you have a pandemic and then only 29,500 who show up. So the only recourse you have is either to reduce your personnel costs for 1500 kids not being here that's about, I don't know over $12 million probably in this in revenue to not getting. So when you have, there's not any extra dollars floating around out there it's really the other way. We don't, the dollars that we have are not what we expected because you're funded on the number of students who show up, not the number of students enrolled in the schools. So, we've already made the commitment. We are, we are having about 1000 of our kids in pre K already. If you wanted to have universal pre K that number will double. If you wanted to have all low income English language learners those that qualified, you're probably about 80% there already. You're close, you were taken. And so it's a, it's just one of the things we keep chasing and keep reformatizing. Now, to your point, the more partnerships we have in our local universities in North Texas, Texas woman's NCTC. The more ability we have for our high school students to take dual credit courses and partner with those other places along the way. When you pick up some economies of scale and are able to save some dollars to put back at the, at the early literacy end. Absolutely, it works. But there's a big misunderstanding that for K-12, all of our learning is less expensive. And frankly, it's not, it's the other way around. It costs us a little more because not only do we have to provide access and redevelop and design curriculum and train teachers and get hardware and internet and those things to everybody involved. But you also, you also have the other piece that you're preparing for. So it's almost like preparing for two different systems and you lose some economy and scale, you don't gain it. But those are definitely things that we have to report. Basically, just so everyone on this call knows this, all of our dollars, about 85% of it is in people, teachers, counselors, nurses, librarians, custodians, cafeteria workers, bus drivers. There's about 15% out there that has any discretion. Now utility bills comes out at 15% and fuel and everything else. So once you factor all that in, there's not a whole lot left to say, okay, we want to do this, we want to do this without recalibrating how you do everything else. So those are things we do every year. We keep moving towards it. So great question. Okay, thank you. Any other questions on our end? Okay, seeing none. President Burns. Does anyone on the board have any questions or comments? I think we're good, Mayor Heston. Okay, thank you. And so that'll take us to our last item, which is item D, ID 21403, receive a report and hold a discussion regarding the use of storage space in the warehouse located at 651 South Mayhill Road. Mayor and council as well as the school district, we have Scott McDonald here or I guess Deanna Cody, who's going to be presenting today in regards to an agreement that you will also see tomorrow to take action on working with our partners at the school district for them to so we can provide some storage space. Thank you. That's not Rachel, that's Deanna. Just so you know that's Deanna Cody. Can you all see me in here. Can you see the screen, excuse me. Yes. All right, awesome. Well good afternoon Mayor Council and members of the board. To start off the presentation I'm Deanna Cody, Deputy Director of Real Estate for the city. We also do have Scott McDonald, the Director of Development Services present, and Brian Burner, Director of Solid Waste is available on the phone, and I believe the district may also have staff available to summarize communications and with district staff, and to answer any questions that may that you may have following the presentation. So we're here to discuss a proposed interlocal agreement between the city and the district for the use of storage space at the city's warehouse at 651 South Mayhill Road. City staff was recently made aware that the district suffered significant damage to some of its buildings during the recent storm event. And while renovation, while renovations are being made the district has requested to utilize approximately 10,000 square feet of space at the Mayhill location to store its furniture, supplies and equipment. So following your discussions today city staff is prepared to bring an action to council to authorize the city manager to enter into a local interlocal agreement with the district for the use of the space that approximately 10,000 square feet of space at the rate of $5,833 a month. And that really, it was very brief it really does conclude the brief overview of the presentation. And again we do have Scott McDonald here from Development Services Brian Burner is on the phone for solid waste. If you have any specific questions regarding any prior discussions between city and district staff. Please stop sharing. Okay. Great. President Burns, I'll let any questions from the, from the board. No sir we have no questions. Okay, and council any questions, Councilmember Armitage and then Councilmember Meltzer. Yes, so first I'll say, after I get the answer to this question, I am likely going to have to go I have two classes to teach. So I'm sorry about that. I wanted to say that regarding this item. I'm really pleased that we're going to be helping out the district, I am devastated for the losses sustained to, you know, a number of DISD campuses. So I'm really pleased to learn that the city wants to help out in this way. If someone from the city and can answer for me, why are we charging this 5000 plus amount. Is that to cover the, the cost of providing this space and is there any way we could, we could make it make it less. We are required by statute. The city is actually required by statute to charge fair market value for the space. For use of the space. Okay, and so this is so, so this is the fair market fair market value and, and how is that is that determined. We looked at comparable least spaces that are currently available on the market. And, and we, we took the range that we saw that was available on some of those comparable warehouse spaces, and that's where we came up with the amount. Okay, well thank you so much and thank you everyone, and I'm going to have to head out early like I said. But, but thank you really pleased to meet with all of you. Thank you. Councilmember Melter. Yeah, I don't think so I'm just gonna miss much. I just want to share tangential observation, it's a great resource that the city has and I appreciate the city, making it available recently for operation airdrop for water and other basic supplies for disaster response. It's, it's a tremendous amount of space. Okay. Any other questions for staff. Anyone making sure. Okay, thank you very much. Okay. Well, that is everything on that I see. Am I missing anything city staff. You have covered it all. Okay, great. Well then, I'll just say that I sure appreciate this opportunity and I'm glad it came together. Thank you, Dr. Wilson, the ISD Board of Trustees, President Burns. I feel very fortunate to have kids in our school system and then have you in a role of leadership and just kind of thank you for the information you've shared and how we can come alongside of you and thank you for your questions on our end and please help us to be as trans as transparent and communicate as early and often as we can. And I look forward to if y'all didn't know I look forward to honoring your, your, your athletes from run high school with a proclamation tomorrow so please to tune in for that at 630. And just, I commend you on the work y'all are doing. And likewise, the district is very pleased that we were able to have this joint meeting. Once again it shows how important it is there are so many things that overlap, and then it's important for us to to be partners and we really appreciate the time that you've taken to do this with us today. Okay, well thank you. Well, if there's nothing else, then I will conclude the city council side of the meet this joint session at 134pm. And I will turn the school district portion at 134pm. Okay, thank you. Have a great day.