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 Okay, it's nine o'clock and we'll call to order the City of Denton Public Utilities

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 Board meeting for February 8th, 2021.

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 Are there any public comments for the first item?

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 There are no public comments.

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 Okay.

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 All right.

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 We'll proceed into the regular meeting on the consent agenda.

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 Does any board member wish to pull up an agenda item?

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 Yes, Billy.

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 I pull item D is in dog.

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 D is in dog.

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 Yep.

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 Any others?

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 Karen?

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 I just had a quick question on B.

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 Okay, we'll pull it.

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 Any others?

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 Do we have a motion to approve item A and C?

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 So moved.

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 And a second?

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 Second.

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 All in favor say aye.

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 Aye.

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 Aye.

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 Okay.

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 That carries.

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 Item B, what is your question?

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 I just wanted a quick review of the status of the landfill expansion.

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 I don't know if this is the right place to do it, but I know that there are plans for

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 further expansion.

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 I was wondering if that was going to be, hey, Brian, I was wondering if that was going to

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 be dependent on the study that's coming out a year or two from now, or if there are already,

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 if the thing that we're voting on for B is something that was approved a while ago.

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 Expansion wise.

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 You're on mute.

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 Yeah, there we go.

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 Madam Chair, members of the board, Brian Burner, Solid Waste Director with City of Denton.

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 Appreciate the opportunity to talk about these two items this morning.

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 The two items that we're looking at are part of a planned expansion under our existing

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 permit.

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 This would have to be done regardless of whether we get a new permit or not to expand the landfill.

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 So this is just normal everything.

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 It's time to expand, to put in a new cell.

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 Okay.

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 Thanks.

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 That basically was my question on both situations.

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 Thank you.

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 Thanks.

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 Do we have a motion to approve that item?

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 Yeah.

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 So moved.

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 And a second.

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 Ed, cut the second.

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 All in favor say aye.

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 Aye.

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 Aye.

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 That carries.

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 Item D.

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 My question, I guess it's for Tom, is this a portion of the total cost of this line?

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 Is the developer paying for its portion as well?

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 Billy, we have Pritam Deshmuth, I'm going to ask him if he can respond to that question.

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 Okay.

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 Pritam, if you can hear me, you're on mute.

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 Hi, good morning.

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 This is Pritam.

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 Can you hear me?

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 Yes, sir.

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 Thank you for the opportunity to talk about this particular item.

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 This particular cost is only a permit cost, typically all railroads have a permit cost

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 associated with letting us lay a line or cross their railroad.

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 So it is not necessarily a portion or a piece, it's a fixed fee permit cost for that, for

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 this particular permit.

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 So the work involved, does it have anything to do with private development?

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 No, this is a water line.

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 So this has nothing to do with private development.

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 It's already in our CIP, I guess.

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 Yes, I mean, these types of crossings are already included in our operation costs.

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 Okay.

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 Is there any upsizing involved with this?

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 No, this is a standard six-inch water line.

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 Okay, that's good.

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 I have one comment, I'd like to see an additional note at the ordinances where we're applicable,

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 of course, that tells the budget source of the monies being spent.

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 Sometimes they're in there and sometimes they're not.

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 So this one's pretty low dollar amount, I'm not complaining, I'm just curious.

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 We can definitely do that, Billy, going forward and make sure we document that information.

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 Just makes it easier on everybody, I think.

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 Yes, sir.

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 Okay.

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 Well, I'll move approval for item D. And then second, all in favor say aye.

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 Aye.

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 Now I forgot to move on item and we're going to move the public hearing item from the end

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 of the meeting to after individual items for consideration, item C, so that we'll end up

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 with the management reports at the end.

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 So with that, we'll move into items for individual consideration.

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 The first item is approval of the January 25th meeting.

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 Do we have a motion to approve those?

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 So moved.

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 Thank you.

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 I'll second.

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 You second.

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 All in favor say aye.

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 Aye.

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 Carries.

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 Next item is item E, consider the recommending adoption of a contract with JRD LLC for the

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 amount of not to exceed $15,880,000.

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 And Madam Chair, we have Mark Zimmer is going to do a brief presentation on the signing

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 of Mark's one of our engineers over at DME and I'm sure he's getting set up.

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 Good morning, everybody.

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 Mark Zimmer, DME Engineering.

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 Can everybody hear me?

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 Currently DME has 13 transmission line projects in our approved CIP budget that require transmission

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 line construction services.

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 They're shown here on this map.

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 They include rebuilding existing transmission lines, tying in new substations and rerouting

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 existing transmission lines due to future TxDOT projects.

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 To facilitate these projects, we assembled a RFP for the services needed, shown here

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 on the slide, which include installation of transmission pole foundations, installation

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 and assembly of the transmission poles, and installation of the overhead conductor.

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 We received four responses to the RFP shown here.

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 We evaluate them based on total cost, project delivery, compliance with specifications and

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 probable performance.

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 You can see Massalanka power line services was evaluated the highest.

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 Could you go back to that slide, please?

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 Okay.

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 I see pricing is obvious while they were rated the highest.

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 Some of the others weren't rated very well in project delivery.

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 Is that from experience with your group?

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 That's not based on experience.

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 During the RFP, we asked for estimated hours to complete the line items in the contract.

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 That's how we evaluated it.

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 Okay.

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 Well, the other -- nobody else rated low on the other ones, so I was curious as to how

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 to do with their answers.

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 Right.

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 Okay.

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 All right.

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 Here are the projects that are included in the proposed contract.

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 You can see three projects here for TMPA, of which they'll all be reimbursed by TMPA.

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 There's also two textile projects for the future I-35 widening, which will be reimbursed

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 by the state.

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 Based on the results of the RFP, Massalanka was the highest evaluated score and it had

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 the lowest overall price, staff recommends a contract with them for $15.88 million.

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 Questions?

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 What was the budgeted amount?

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 The budget is based on the CIP, the total approved CIP budget, which is higher than

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 the $15.88 million.

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 This is just a service to install the transmission line.

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 I got you, but you had a CIP and you had a budget, that's what you went in with.

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 Maybe I'll go back here.

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 I missed it.

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 There it is.

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 The right-hand column there.

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 Yeah.

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 Okay.

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 Yeah.

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 That was easy.

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 That was a good answer.

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 Can you explain the TMPA connection here?

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 Yes, due to our TOP agreement, we're required to do all the construction for TMPA projects

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 in the area.

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 That's why these projects are included.

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 TMPA, pardon the probably stupid question, is still a viable entity even with the closing

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 of Givens Creek.

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 Yes, sir.

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 They still operate transmission facilities here in the Denton area.

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 Okay.

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 Thank you.

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 All right.

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 Any other questions?

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 Do we have a motion to approve this item?

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 I move.

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 Thank you, Ed.

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 Do we have a second?

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 Second.

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 Thank you.

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 All in favor, say aye.

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 Aye.

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 Item carries.

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 The next item is consider recommending the adoption of an ordinance to execute a contract

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 with Hammett Excavation Incorporated for the amount of $3,247,947.84.

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 Welcome Barbara.

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 Thank you.

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 Good morning, Madam Chair, members of the board.

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 My name is Brian Burner, Solid Waste Director with the City of Denton.

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 I'll be sharing a presentation here.

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 All right.

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 We are looking to construct a new cell at the City of Denton landfill.

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 We're about a year from having our current cell filled up completely.

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 And we need the additional capacity under our existing operational permit to safely

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 environmentally appropriately manage the material that's coming into the landfill.

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 The purpose of this is to actually construct and build that next cell under our current

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 permit.

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 We're really defined the need of the landfill.

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 So review the process of identifying the contractors and the cost, and then providing a recommendation

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 to the board here today.

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 City of Dent operates a landfill located at 1527 South May Hill, currently has an operating

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 permit from the state of Texas, the MSW 1590A.

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 We are a regional facility that provides disposal capacity for local and area residents and

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 businesses.

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 We've been operating as a regional facility since this site opened back in the early '80s.

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 Current cell has approximately a year remaining.

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 And we need to prepare this permitted area for the location and management of the waste

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 that is coming into the facility.

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 This is a 23-acre site, and what we'll be doing is actually excavating down to the appropriate

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 clay system.

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 We'll be re-compacting the clay that's in the area, creating a liner, pursuing it to

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 our permit, which includes a 60-mil smooth and double-textured geomembrane, recovering

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 that with a geonet and two feet of protective soil cover.

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 So basically, we're building a bathtub that all the material will be contained within,

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 and we'll be able to monitor and manage the material and the liquids as appropriate under

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 state and federal guidelines.

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 We put together our engineer of record, Park Hill Consultants, formerly known as Park Hill

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 Smith and Cooper, put together a request for proposal force under bid 5740.

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 It was put out on the street at the end of November.

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 We sent the request to approximately, excuse me here, this should have been changed, but

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 to, excuse me, pull that number up, to a little over 400 companies.

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 We had five responses on December 29, 2020.

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 Lowest responsive company identified was Hammett Excavation for a cost of $3.2 million and

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 a total construction time of 233 days.

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 We do recommend awarding to Hammett.

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 They've got significant experience constructing not only landfills and landfill liner systems,

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 but also other heavy equipment and excavation work.

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 With that, I'll be able to answer any questions you might have regarding the request today.

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 Questions?

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 I have a question.

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 I'm just curious, how many further expansions are allowed under the current permit?

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 We have two more cells that have to be constructed.

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 If you'll allow me to go back to my presentation, I can show you where those are.

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 Just a second here.

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 Currently if you can see my cursor, this area just to the east.

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 This cell and this little triangle area here is approximately 13 acres that would still

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 need to be developed after this was full.

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 Based on our current guidelines and time and fill record, based on the tonnage that we

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 have, we have a little more than 13 years remaining in the current permitted area.

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 Okay.

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 Thank you very much.

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 You're welcome.

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 Any other questions?

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 I have a question.

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 We allow other, who all dumps into these cells?

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 We are a regional facility and have been since we opened since the early 80s.

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 So basically the city of Denton and then anyone else who wants to pay to dispose of material

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 here.

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 So the mom and pop that lives in the county wants to bring material here or any other

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 commercial or private business that may want to haul the material across and pay either

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 a negotiated rate or the gate rate to bring it across the scale.

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 Are there any other cities that bring their waste here?

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 Most other cities in the area have a contracted service.

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 So excuse me, the city does not haul directly unless it's sludge.

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 Most of the other cities through their contracted disposal company, it may be CWD, Republic

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 Frontier, a company like that, but that's where the material would come in.

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 What part of it, the items that are dumped out there, would you say these entities comprise

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 10% of what goes in there?

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 No, it's approximately 50% of the waste that comes into the city of Denton is, is, is disposed

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 of by a third party or a resident that does not live within the city of Denton.

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 So approximately half the waste is coming into the city itself.

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 And again, whether that's a direct haul or whether it's through one of these companies.

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 I didn't realize it was that high.

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 That's very discerning, isn't it?

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 Especially when we only have 13 years left in the current permitted area.

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 I remember our previous discussion when we were approving a sort of established contract

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 with I think three entities that were going to be bringing or had brought stuff in.

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 The justification for having those contracts signed was so we would have a reliable budget.

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 We would know how much we were going to be making.

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 Is there a financial incentive for accepting outside waste?

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 Yes, there is.

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 You know, city of Denton has accepted outside waste since we've opened, it's, you know,

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 in, you know, about 1980 at this site.

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 Part of what happened until we signed these contracts, these waste and revenues were not

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 guaranteed.

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 So we were, you know, at the whim of the third party contractor and actually at the whim of

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 the market, if they could find a place that was closer and cheaper, then they would take

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 it there.

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 By putting these contracts into place, it did a couple of things.

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 First of all, as you said, it guaranteed revenue.

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 So we could know from year to year how much from a contracted standpoint we would have.

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 And if we had long term debt, which really this was put into place to help cover an offset,

00:18:55.040 --> 00:18:57.760
 some outstanding debt that we had, it would do that.

00:18:57.760 --> 00:19:03.440
 But secondarily, it provides rate relief for city of Denton residents.

00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:10.240
 You may remember over the past couple of years, we were able to reduce the rates to our customers

00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:14.560
 to the tune of almost right at $4 a month.

00:19:14.560 --> 00:19:19.000
 And that is directly tied to the third party waste that's coming in.

00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:26.600
 Those are fixed cost entity, whether we handle a ton of waste, whether we handle a thousand

00:19:26.600 --> 00:19:27.600
 tons of waste.

00:19:27.600 --> 00:19:31.760
 We have to have a minimum number and amount of equipment and personnel on the site pursuant

00:19:31.760 --> 00:19:37.120
 to our contract or pursuant to our permit with the state.

00:19:37.120 --> 00:19:43.560
 What we do at that point is try to maximize the tonnage, which minimizes the cost.

00:19:43.560 --> 00:19:50.360
 You know, a thousand divided by one is a lot higher than a thousand divided by ten thousand.

00:19:50.360 --> 00:19:55.760
 And that's really what we're trying to do is to minimize the cost, but really help the

00:19:55.760 --> 00:20:01.480
 residents by supplementing the cost that they are paying.

00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:07.240
 There's a theory that if we run out of landfill space that that will increase the cost tremendously

00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:08.240
 as well.

00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:09.240
 That is true.

00:20:09.240 --> 00:20:10.240
 That is true.

00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:11.520
 So, you know, it's kind of like the farmer.

00:20:11.520 --> 00:20:17.120
 You don't want to eat your seed corn, but again, you need to be able to sell your excess

00:20:17.120 --> 00:20:22.800
 growth so that you can fund and actually, you know, pay your bills from year to year.

00:20:22.800 --> 00:20:28.760
 So that's really what we're trying to do here is to maintain cost, keep costs low, but really

00:20:28.760 --> 00:20:33.200
 manage the material and the space that we have.

00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:41.440
 I think this points out the necessity of establishing some sort of compost program, especially for

00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:47.080
 food waste, given the amount of food waste that is currently coming to the landfill and

00:20:47.080 --> 00:20:52.560
 will obviously over the years increase.

00:20:52.560 --> 00:21:01.960
 So I figure that anything we can do to lengthen the landfills lifetime with or without the

00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:06.080
 new permit that's coming in is going to be a benefit for everyone.

00:21:06.080 --> 00:21:11.840
 Yeah, I appreciate that statement, and that's really one of the pieces that we're looking

00:21:11.840 --> 00:21:17.400
 at under our current comprehensive solid waste management strategy is, you know, if it is

00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:20.840
 deemed appropriate as a result of our waste characterization and the information that

00:21:20.840 --> 00:21:25.440
 we're getting back from our surveys and our think tank, then how do we go about implementing

00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:32.440
 one that's not only effective, but also, you know, cost beneficial to the residents as

00:21:32.440 --> 00:21:33.440
 we move forward.

00:21:33.440 --> 00:21:38.160
 So that's what we're looking at, and hopefully, you know, here shortly, we'll be able to start

00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:43.120
 significant discussions to that end.

00:21:43.120 --> 00:21:48.880
 I welcome that, and thank you, and I think I sent you some information about Austin's

00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:56.480
 program as well, which is they've just expanded to over 200,000 residents, so it is very doable.

00:21:56.480 --> 00:21:57.480
 Thank you.

00:21:57.480 --> 00:22:02.600
 Okay, and we need to stay to the confines of this contract now.

00:22:02.600 --> 00:22:04.460
 Do we have a motion to approve?

00:22:04.460 --> 00:22:07.920
 Oh, yes, Barbara.

00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:16.320
 You're on mute.

00:22:16.320 --> 00:22:17.480
 Can't hear you, Barbara.

00:22:17.480 --> 00:22:18.480
 Okay.

00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:20.880
 Now, do it again.

00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:23.880
 You're back on mute.

00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:25.920
 Okay.

00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:30.880
 I've been hearing presentations on this for a while, and I realize that it's a delicate

00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:36.640
 balance that you're trying to achieve, and the technology seems to be getting better

00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:44.840
 and better all the time with the recycle and things that we're using, so, and I know you're

00:22:44.840 --> 00:22:50.160
 being diligent about watching this because we want to keep the prices down, but we want

00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:55.600
 to have a landfill that lasts us forever, so I appreciate you keeping an eye on that

00:22:55.600 --> 00:23:04.560
 and trying to make it so it's economically a good thing and also just takes care of cleaning

00:23:04.560 --> 00:23:05.560
 us up.

00:23:05.560 --> 00:23:09.880
 So, anyway, thank you very much, Brian, I appreciate your explanations.

00:23:09.880 --> 00:23:10.880
 You're welcome.

00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:11.880
 Thank you.

00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:12.880
 All right.

00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:16.360
 Do we have a motion to approve this item?

00:23:16.360 --> 00:23:18.680
 Answer group motioning.

00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:21.480
 Billy, are you the second?

00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:22.480
 Second.

00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:24.440
 All in favor, say aye.

00:23:24.440 --> 00:23:25.440
 Aye.

00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:26.440
 Opposed?

00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:27.440
 Aye.

00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:28.440
 Motion carries.

00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:29.440
 Okay.

00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:30.440
 Thank you.

00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:35.200
 Hold a public hearing and consider recommendation of the adoption of an ordinance for the City

00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:42.000
 of Denton, Texas, amending the provisions of Chapter 26, Utilities Article 5, indirect

00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:48.040
 discharge into sanitary water systems of the City's Code of Ordinances, providing for

00:23:48.040 --> 00:23:53.720
 severability clause and providing for savings clause and providing penalty and providing

00:23:53.720 --> 00:24:18.100
 codification and providing for publication and an effective date.

00:24:18.100 --> 00:24:26.360
 Thank you.

00:24:26.360 --> 00:24:51.380
 This morning about which one, sorry, sorry, technical difficulties here.

00:24:51.380 --> 00:24:52.600
 Let me start all over again.

00:24:52.600 --> 00:24:57.160
 My name is Deborah Vieira, I'm with Environmental Services and I will be presenting this morning

00:24:57.160 --> 00:25:04.440
 about the proposed changes to sub-Tapter 26 of the Code of Ordinances regarding the City's

00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:11.760
 Industrial Retreatment Program.

00:25:11.760 --> 00:25:21.160
 The National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System, also known as NPDES, under the auspices

00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:30.600
 of EPA, requires any control authority of any public-owned treatment work, also known

00:25:30.600 --> 00:25:36.900
 as wastewater treatment plans, that receive discharges from industrial users to establish

00:25:36.900 --> 00:25:39.940
 an industrial pretreatment program.

00:25:39.940 --> 00:25:47.200
 As the owner of the Pecan Creek Water Reclamation Plan, the City has its own industrial pretreatment

00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:53.460
 division for the purpose of protecting the collection system, the wastewater treatment

00:25:53.460 --> 00:26:00.200
 plan, the biosolids, and the receiving streams, I'm sorry, and the stream receiving the effluent

00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:06.900
 from the wastewater treatment plan itself.

00:26:06.900 --> 00:26:14.420
 Any industrial use that is considered significant must be permitted and inspected by the City.

00:26:14.420 --> 00:26:25.040
 Those that are considered significant and categorical, they are required to actually

00:26:25.040 --> 00:26:31.600
 take samples themselves, test them, and send us reports on a regular basis about what the

00:26:31.600 --> 00:26:34.240
 levels are, the discharges are.

00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:42.360
 By any chance any of those discharges exceeds the limits established by EPA, we follow up

00:26:42.360 --> 00:26:53.880
 with an inspection and more sampling, making sure that they return back on their compliance.

00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:59.920
 In 2005, the EPA made some changes to the industrial pretreatment, also known as the

00:26:59.920 --> 00:27:03.160
 streamlining rule.

00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:12.200
 That rule's main purpose was to actually reduce any overall technical and administrative burden

00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:18.960
 without eliminating any of the existing protections that we provide to the environment.

00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:24.720
 Even though the regulation was coined as a streamlining because that's where most of

00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:34.840
 the changes are intended to accomplish, it also added some more stringent regulations

00:27:34.840 --> 00:27:39.860
 to the pretreatment program, making the regulations even better.

00:27:39.860 --> 00:27:44.480
 Hey Deborah, excuse me, this is Tony, would you mind advancing your slides, I don't know

00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:46.160
 if you're keeping up?

00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:52.560
 No, we are still in that slide, Tony.

00:27:52.560 --> 00:28:07.920
 We are talking about the stringent requirements and we will be touching on flexibility.

00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:13.840
 One of the changes that actually are making the regulation more stringent and better for

00:28:13.840 --> 00:28:25.200
 the environment is that right now, any industrial user would have to provide a control plan

00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:31.560
 for any accidental discharges or slogs that can actually cause interference at the wastewater

00:28:31.560 --> 00:28:32.560
 treatment plant.

00:28:32.560 --> 00:28:38.800
 It will also provide for the first time a language that prohibits the delusion of discharges

00:28:38.800 --> 00:28:45.000
 as a substitute for treatment, meaning that they are required to treat their effluent

00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.800
 no matter what and not just dilute it.

00:28:48.800 --> 00:28:56.280
 It also requires customer cities discharging into the Denton wastewater system to actually

00:28:56.280 --> 00:29:03.200
 adopt pretreatment ordinances that are at least as stringent as Denton, so in that way

00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:11.640
 they can enforce those regulations in their own cities before discharging into our system.

00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:19.760
 The regulation provides some flexibility and one of the things that people don't realize

00:29:19.760 --> 00:29:27.840
 is when you are a categorical discharger, you must test for a whole slew of pollutants

00:29:27.840 --> 00:29:32.400
 even though some of them are not part of your discharge.

00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:40.400
 So this regulation allows the city to actually reduce the amount of sampling for those regulations

00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:47.880
 that can prove that those pollutants are not part of the effluent and making them to continually

00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:54.080
 test for those because the results show that they are not detected because that pollutant

00:29:54.080 --> 00:29:57.760
 is not part of the effluent makeup.

00:29:57.760 --> 00:30:04.820
 This particular change will benefit a lot of the small and mid-size industrial users

00:30:04.820 --> 00:30:08.720
 because they will not have to test for all that.

00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:17.320
 When you are dealing with a larger entity, that is not a significant cost for them, however

00:30:17.320 --> 00:30:27.320
 for the small and the mid-size, it is.

00:30:27.320 --> 00:30:36.440
 In 2005, as mentioned, EPA adopted the streamlining rule and that triggered all the states throughout

00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:43.600
 the nation to actually make changes to the state law to comply with the new 2005 streamlining

00:30:43.600 --> 00:30:44.920
 rule.

00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:45.920
 That took years.

00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:55.600
 In 2014, the city submitted to TCEQ our amendment to our permit to comply with that 2005 regulation

00:30:55.600 --> 00:31:06.140
 and in 2020, last year, around March, April, we got our first round of comments from TCEQ.

00:31:06.140 --> 00:31:12.160
 We spend the remaining of the year going back and forth and making sure that we make any

00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:18.440
 necessary changes that TCEQ requested us to do and at the end of the year, we reached

00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:21.680
 the stage of technically complete.

00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:30.280
 Technically complete means that TCEQ deemed the city amendment to be aligned with EPA

00:31:30.280 --> 00:31:37.340
 2005 rule as well with TCEQ regulations and not further revisions are needed at this point

00:31:37.340 --> 00:31:39.920
 for the final approval.

00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:45.320
 The last step that the city must complete is the adoption of our ordinance, adopting

00:31:45.320 --> 00:31:57.960
 those changes and providing the legal authority to the city to do any enforcement if necessary.

00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:01.920
 That's the part that we are presenting to you.

00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:10.280
 Exhibit 2 includes the clean version of the ordinance, exhibit 3 and 4, those are red

00:32:10.280 --> 00:32:19.320
 lines and comparison between the new and the old and the proposed code.

00:32:19.320 --> 00:32:25.080
 Last week, we went to the committee on the environment and they gave us the green light

00:32:25.080 --> 00:32:31.040
 to actually move forward and present to the full council the proposed changes.

00:32:31.040 --> 00:32:38.440
 So the public hearing at council at this point is scheduled to be March the 2nd and on March

00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:46.280
 19, the city will be submitting all the paperwork and/or before March 19, the city will be submitting

00:32:46.280 --> 00:32:52.920
 all the paperwork including the approved ordinance to TCEQ to finalize the process and that is

00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:55.840
 our deadline to meet with TCEQ.

00:32:55.840 --> 00:33:03.360
 At this point, that concludes me -- I'm sorry, the last slide will be the recommendation.

00:33:03.360 --> 00:33:09.320
 Staff is recommending approval of ordinance amending chapter 26, utilities article 5 about

00:33:09.320 --> 00:33:16.720
 indirect discharge into sanitary wastewater system of the city of the codes of ordinances.

00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:24.160
 At this point, staff concludes the presentation and is available to answer any questions.

00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:28.080
 Before we go into the public hearing, any questions from the board?

00:33:28.080 --> 00:33:33.720
 >> I have a question.

00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:34.720
 >> So does Barbara.

00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:35.720
 Go ahead.

00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:38.920
 >> I was just curious about the chronology.

00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:46.720
 Is this normal that it takes the TCEQ seven years to get this happening after the city

00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:55.280
 applied in 2014 and the final document isn't done until 2021 for an ordinance that was

00:33:55.280 --> 00:34:00.720
 passed or an EPA regulation that was passed 16 years ago?

00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:04.920
 Is that how the red tape works?

00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:11.560
 >> Any permits that we have or we handle, we always deal with a couple of years of delay

00:34:11.560 --> 00:34:19.320
 by TCEQ, just keep in mind that when the 2005 amendment was made by EPA, it required the

00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:23.520
 entire nation to actually get up to speed on that.

00:34:23.520 --> 00:34:31.560
 So we are definitely on a delayed schedule, if you remember yourself.

00:34:31.560 --> 00:34:38.560
 However, we are excited to be where we are right now and very close to reaching the finish

00:34:38.560 --> 00:34:39.560
 line.

00:34:39.560 --> 00:34:43.960
 >> Thank you very much and I really appreciate all of your efforts.

00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:47.880
 >> Barbara, you had a question.

00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:52.380
 >> This is more about the presentation that we had to read.

00:34:52.380 --> 00:34:59.360
 I found it very difficult to read what was sent to us instead of being a red line had

00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:04.160
 the column at the side of all the changes that you were making.

00:35:04.160 --> 00:35:05.680
 I found it difficult to read.

00:35:05.680 --> 00:35:09.080
 I don't know if that's the -- I just need to get used to it.

00:35:09.080 --> 00:35:15.000
 But you did have some documents that were red line, much easier to follow than the one

00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:21.060
 that we were sent this weekend.

00:35:21.060 --> 00:35:25.400
 >> When we had a meeting with the committee on the environment, some of the members gave

00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:31.080
 us specific instructions on how they like to see the revisions.

00:35:31.080 --> 00:35:36.540
 That's why we provided the clean version that was one of the attachments.

00:35:36.540 --> 00:35:42.900
 The following attachment was a red line version just -- and then the third version was a side

00:35:42.900 --> 00:35:46.680
 by side comparison just to meet one of the COE requirements.

00:35:46.680 --> 00:35:52.760
 So I tried to cater for all the desires.

00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:55.880
 >> I'll get used to it then.

00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:59.640
 >> That's the short answer, Barbara.

00:35:59.640 --> 00:36:00.640
 Any other questions?

00:36:00.640 --> 00:36:01.640
 All right.

00:36:01.640 --> 00:36:04.760
 Then we'll go into public hearing.

00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:12.440
 Does anybody wish to speak on this item?

00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:19.320
 Does anybody wish to speak on this item?

00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:21.640
 >> I'll speak.

00:36:21.640 --> 00:36:24.080
 >> Yes, go ahead, speak.

00:36:24.080 --> 00:36:26.000
 >> I'm in support of this.

00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:32.240
 And I think anything that we can do to continue to protect our watershed and water is something

00:36:32.240 --> 00:36:35.300
 that we should do.

00:36:35.300 --> 00:36:38.080
 >> And I'll ask for public comment one more time.

00:36:38.080 --> 00:36:40.800
 Anybody wish to speak on public comment?

00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:42.560
 All right.

00:36:42.560 --> 00:36:47.960
 With that, we'll close the public hearing.

00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:52.160
 Do we have a motion to recommend proceeding with this item?

00:36:52.160 --> 00:36:54.240
 >> I'm making a motion.

00:36:54.240 --> 00:36:55.240
 >> Thank you, Billy.

00:36:55.240 --> 00:36:56.240
 In a second?

00:36:56.240 --> 00:36:57.240
 Barbara's second.

00:36:57.240 --> 00:36:59.280
 All in favor, say aye.

00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:00.280
 >> Aye.

00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:02.840
 >> Okay, motion carries.

00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:03.840
 Thank you, Deborah.

00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:04.840
 >> Thank you.

00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:05.840
 Have a nice day.

00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:06.840
 >> Okay.

00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:13.660
 Last item is management reports.

00:37:13.660 --> 00:37:19.520
 >> Madam Chair and members of the PB, in your backup, we did include the fourth quarter

00:37:19.520 --> 00:37:24.040
 of 2019-20 financial report.

00:37:24.040 --> 00:37:27.120
 Nick Vincent, I believe, is on the line.

00:37:27.120 --> 00:37:32.680
 If any member has any questions on that report, he'd be happy to kind of walk you through

00:37:32.680 --> 00:37:35.520
 any questions you may have.

00:37:35.520 --> 00:37:38.680
 >> I would just like to say we're in a very difficult year.

00:37:38.680 --> 00:37:40.280
 You've managed very well.

00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:42.000
 >> Yes, ma'am.

00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:46.880
 I think across the board, I think the city did a really good job of controlling expenditures

00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:49.360
 and I think that's really the bottom line.

00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:52.720
 I think across the board, all the funds are doing well.

00:37:52.720 --> 00:38:00.640
 You know, in your new business items, I believe we have scheduled for March 8 an update to

00:38:00.640 --> 00:38:06.800
 you on the, you know, 2021 utility rates, budget, and fund balance, and just kind of

00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:11.200
 a wrap-up of '19-'20 as well.

00:38:11.200 --> 00:38:15.840
 And then the next item will be your new business action items.

00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:20.280
 Again, we have a number of items here that we're still kind of working through for you

00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:21.280
 on some requests.

00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:24.800
 Some of them had to do with solid waste, and again, we're working on that comprehensive

00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:30.000
 solid waste management strategy and, you know, hope to be coming back to you soon, you know,

00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:35.040
 later this year to have a discussion with you and the council on that.

00:38:35.040 --> 00:38:41.120
 And then we also have an outstanding question for DME.

00:38:41.120 --> 00:38:48.600
 We're hoping that this week and to get with staff and make sure that we get that back

00:38:48.600 --> 00:38:53.520
 on your schedule and address that question on the solar installations.

00:38:53.520 --> 00:39:01.040
 But with that, that's all the management reports, unless any member has any questions on or requests

00:39:01.040 --> 00:39:02.040
 on those.

00:39:02.040 --> 00:39:07.400
 Just I think a few notes.

00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:15.960
 I did that one item that I asked about putting the budget source on that would probably be

00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:19.800
 more appropriate here.

00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:21.080
 >> We can add that on here, Billy.

00:39:21.080 --> 00:39:22.080
 >> Okay.

00:39:22.080 --> 00:39:29.080
 I'm sure, you know, Ed brought up a lot of points, good points about the -- and Karen

00:39:29.080 --> 00:39:31.800
 as well about the planning of the landfill.

00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:38.400
 I assume you're putting together some strategy reports for the future.

00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:40.360
 >> Yes, sir.

00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:44.360
 We're working with an outside consultant on that comprehensive solid waste management

00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:47.920
 study and will be coming back to you with just a comprehensive review.

00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:54.160
 And again, I know there's a lot of interest on the solid waste or the food diversion program.

00:39:54.160 --> 00:39:58.320
 And so we'll try to address all that together after we've gone through that process.

00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.440
 I'll be later this year.

00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:03.480
 >> I just wanted to put them in the appropriate place.

00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:04.480
 >> Yes.

00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:05.480
 >> Yes, sir.

00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:06.480
 >> Okay.

00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:07.480
 Thank you.

00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:10.480
 >> All right.

00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:11.480
 Concluding items.

00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:16.320
 Does any board member or staff have any comments or requests?

00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:21.520
 Yes, Barbara, you're on mute.

00:40:21.520 --> 00:40:23.320
 >> Okay.

00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:26.480
 I have a request.

00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:35.640
 When we get something to study and read and it's real estate related, sometimes it's hard

00:40:35.640 --> 00:40:41.760
 to read the plat that you sent us or you give us the legal description.

00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:47.200
 Could you just locate it for us if we want to drive out and take a look?

00:40:47.200 --> 00:40:49.780
 We could.

00:40:49.780 --> 00:40:54.720
 We had something a couple weeks ago that I called in and I found, you know, we figured

00:40:54.720 --> 00:41:01.420
 out where it was so I could go look and I know you can -- you may not always have a

00:41:01.420 --> 00:41:08.000
 street address but you can give a locale that you can go out and find it instead of just

00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:13.840
 the legal or a plat that just has easements and things across it.

00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:16.280
 I would really appreciate that.

00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:22.320
 >> I'll have a discussion with our real estate folks and see if we can get you a better description

00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:27.600
 of the physical address or coordinates for those locations.

00:41:27.600 --> 00:41:31.960
 >> What about the R number, Barbara, would that help?

00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:32.960
 >> Sure.

00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:37.400
 Then I could go and look it up, if I --

00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:38.400
 >> Okay.

00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:39.400
 Very good.

00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:40.400
 >> All right.

00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:41.400
 Any other comments?

00:41:41.400 --> 00:41:42.400
 >> Yeah.

00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.920
 I'd just like to take a point of personal privilege.

00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:52.320
 I just want to let everybody know this is going to be my last meeting with the PV and

00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:57.520
 I will be leaving the city at the end of the month and heading to Fort Worth and moving.

00:41:57.520 --> 00:41:59.360
 I just want to let everybody know.

00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:01.680
 >> What are you doing?

00:42:01.680 --> 00:42:03.720
 >> New chapter.

00:42:03.720 --> 00:42:04.720
 >> Yeah.

00:42:04.720 --> 00:42:08.600
 >> Who are you going to work for?

00:42:08.600 --> 00:42:09.600
 >> I'm sorry?

00:42:09.600 --> 00:42:10.600
 >> Who are you going to work for?

00:42:10.600 --> 00:42:11.600
 >> I'll send out the information at the end of the month.

00:42:11.600 --> 00:42:12.600
 It's a 24-person firm over there.

00:42:12.600 --> 00:42:13.600
 >> Okay.

00:42:13.600 --> 00:42:14.600
 Going back to the private sector.

00:42:14.600 --> 00:42:15.600
 >> Yes.

00:42:15.600 --> 00:42:16.600
 >> Well, good luck, Larry.

00:42:16.600 --> 00:42:17.600
 >> I appreciate it.

00:42:17.600 --> 00:42:18.600
 >> You've been great.

00:42:18.600 --> 00:42:19.600
 >> Yes, you will be missed.

00:42:19.600 --> 00:42:20.600
 >> Yeah.

00:42:20.600 --> 00:42:21.600
 Thank you for everything you've done, Larry.

00:42:21.600 --> 00:42:27.800
 >> And I want to introduce Katherine Clifton.

00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:32.200
 Katherine, you want to pop your screen up.

00:42:32.200 --> 00:42:33.200
 >> Hi, Katherine.

00:42:33.200 --> 00:42:34.200
 >> Hi, Katherine.

00:42:34.200 --> 00:42:35.200
 >> Where is she?

00:42:35.200 --> 00:42:36.200
 >> Hi, everyone.

00:42:36.200 --> 00:42:37.200
 >> She's up here now.

00:42:37.200 --> 00:42:45.200
 Katherine is one of the two new first assistants in the office and she's going to be stepping

00:42:45.200 --> 00:42:50.080
 in my role here on an interim basis until they see who's going to be doing all the utility

00:42:50.080 --> 00:42:51.080
 work.

00:42:51.080 --> 00:42:52.080
 So, I just want to introduce her.

00:42:52.080 --> 00:42:55.080
 But it's been a pleasure.

00:42:55.080 --> 00:43:02.200
 I've been here through a lot of change in the city and what's going on, but it's a time

00:43:02.200 --> 00:43:04.920
 for a new chapter in the life of my wife and I.

00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:09.240
 She's looking forward to, like told Susan Parker, being near a central market and a

00:43:09.240 --> 00:43:10.240
 Trader Joe's.

00:43:10.240 --> 00:43:18.280
 >> Yeah, it's just not quite big enough yet, are we?

00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:22.160
 >> All right, well, any other items?

00:43:22.160 --> 00:43:25.200
 Do we have a motion to adjourn?

00:43:25.200 --> 00:43:26.200
 >> So moved.

00:43:26.200 --> 00:43:27.760
 >> So moved.

00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:28.760
 We are adjourned.

00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:29.760
 >> Thank you, everyone.

00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:30.760
 >> Bye.

00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:31.160
 >> Thank you.

