WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.340 We'll go ahead and open the January 28th meeting. 00:00:09.340 --> 00:00:10.340 Let's do roll. 00:00:10.340 --> 00:00:11.340 Monet Franklin is here. 00:00:11.340 --> 00:00:12.340 Michelle Lynn? 00:00:12.340 --> 00:00:13.340 Here. 00:00:13.340 --> 00:00:14.840 Meredith Ewing? 00:00:14.840 --> 00:00:15.840 Here. 00:00:15.840 --> 00:00:18.040 Alicia Egert is absent. 00:00:18.040 --> 00:00:20.080 Jody Ismert is absent. 00:00:20.080 --> 00:00:21.080 Fred Nicholson? 00:00:21.080 --> 00:00:31.200 Yes, he's absent. 00:00:31.200 --> 00:00:32.200 Terry Nobles? 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:33.200 Here. 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:34.200 Ed Steele? 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:41.960 He's not on yet. 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:43.920 And Georgina Ngozi? 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:49.560 I'm assuming she's absent. 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:53.480 No, she's got on mute. 00:00:53.480 --> 00:00:54.560 She's trying to find her mute button. 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:55.560 Yes, I am. 00:00:55.560 --> 00:00:56.560 Yes, I am. 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:59.080 Here I am. 00:00:59.080 --> 00:01:04.400 I was trying to find that mute button. 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:10.320 And agenda item number one is to consider approval of the minutes of December 4, 2020. 00:01:10.320 --> 00:01:14.000 If we're ready, I'll go ahead and approve them. 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:17.120 I mean, I'll put the motion forward. 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:18.120 Sorry. 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:22.440 I'll go ahead and second. 00:01:22.440 --> 00:01:24.880 Second. 00:01:24.880 --> 00:01:25.880 All in favor? 00:01:25.880 --> 00:01:26.880 Aye. 00:01:26.880 --> 00:01:27.880 Aye. 00:01:27.880 --> 00:01:28.880 My apologies. 00:01:28.880 --> 00:01:29.880 You seconded? 00:01:29.880 --> 00:01:30.880 I did. 00:01:30.880 --> 00:01:31.880 Thank you. 00:01:31.880 --> 00:01:45.480 At item B, receive report and hold a discussion and give staff input regarding the status 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:48.640 of the following public art committee projects. 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:55.400 One is the North Park Dog Park, two is the Roman Villa Athletic Complex, three is the 00:01:55.400 --> 00:01:59.520 Tennis Center, four is Fire Station number three, five is the Foundations of Art History 00:01:59.520 --> 00:02:05.240 Mural, six is the MLK Project, seven is the Interracial Fellowship Monument, and eight 00:02:05.240 --> 00:02:06.680 is the I-35 Medallions. 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:10.400 Okay, Monet, I'll be giving the report on that one. 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:19.300 Let me share my screen here. 00:02:19.300 --> 00:02:20.300 How is that? 00:02:20.300 --> 00:02:21.300 Is everybody good? 00:02:21.300 --> 00:02:22.300 Can see that? 00:02:22.300 --> 00:02:23.300 Okay. 00:02:23.300 --> 00:02:31.800 All right, so our first project, let me see if I can get it to actually move. 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:34.720 There we go. 00:02:34.720 --> 00:02:43.920 All right, North Lakes Dog Park, we have had some action on that before. 00:02:43.920 --> 00:02:52.280 We'd submitted one of the proposals by an artist, but it was rejected by the subcommittee 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:57.340 because it was actually very, it didn't seem to have the same, what they were looking for 00:02:57.340 --> 00:03:00.120 is something that was more whimsical type of an affair. 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:04.360 It was thought to be too off the shelf type of thing. 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:10.400 So I've got some working in our purchasing department and they are going to be looking 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:15.400 at trying to get that in a local area for the cafe or to be able to put that out through 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:19.160 our regular systems for it. 00:03:19.160 --> 00:03:24.840 One of the problems I think we had with the pre-selected artists was that a whole lot 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:28.840 of people had things that were very traditional looking and it didn't really have that same 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:34.200 type of thing that the subcommittee was looking for and that we had put into the proposal 00:03:34.200 --> 00:03:35.760 scope of work. 00:03:35.760 --> 00:03:37.760 So that's kind of where we're at. 00:03:37.760 --> 00:03:41.160 We're looking at alternative ways to get that out and hopefully we can get somebody fairly 00:03:41.160 --> 00:03:47.120 local that will want to be able to put something really nice together within our budget currently 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:48.440 have. 00:03:48.440 --> 00:03:58.640 Do we have any questions? 00:03:58.640 --> 00:04:06.080 Do you have any ideas like the timeline for when that might be submitted or complete for 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:12.480 us to push out to artists or and then I don't remember when this has to be completed for 00:04:12.480 --> 00:04:14.560 us to maintain those funds. 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:17.640 It has to be completed by the end of August. 00:04:17.640 --> 00:04:18.640 Okay. 00:04:18.640 --> 00:04:21.120 So we still have some time. 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:25.800 The budget is not calling for something that's a very large sculpture and it's not something 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:32.320 like we were talking about with Vela which was so much bigger or the amount of complexity 00:04:32.320 --> 00:04:35.400 that the DWAF has. 00:04:35.400 --> 00:04:36.960 Okay. 00:04:36.960 --> 00:04:38.960 Any other questions? 00:04:38.960 --> 00:04:46.280 Okay, I will continue. 00:04:46.280 --> 00:04:49.680 All right. 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:52.920 The second one is the Vela Athletic Complex. 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:57.040 Right now the artists are fabricating that work. 00:04:57.040 --> 00:05:02.680 We've had several meetings with them, Drew and I and I think Gary and one where we talked 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:09.640 about doing something different around the base to help soften that area and so the artist 00:05:09.640 --> 00:05:13.520 definitely wanted to be able to do that with something like a planter. 00:05:13.520 --> 00:05:20.240 I know that when we had presented this to council that council gave kind of feedback 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:23.920 saying hey is that all metal, is that going to get hot? 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:27.640 We've looked into that and it's probably not going to get very hot enough to anything have 00:05:27.640 --> 00:05:32.240 a touch to it but in order to prevent anything like that we're going to surround it a little 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:36.640 bit of landscaping and change maybe some seating around it. 00:05:36.640 --> 00:05:39.200 Drew has been working with that. 00:05:39.200 --> 00:05:43.720 Drew, did you want to provide any update for that? 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:47.800 We're finalizing the design now we're looking at all the infrastructure that needs to be 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:55.440 put in and what concrete work needs to be cut and redone to accommodate the electrical 00:05:55.440 --> 00:05:58.440 and irrigation for those planter beds. 00:05:58.440 --> 00:06:06.320 So we should have an update and a rendering for that next public art meeting. 00:06:06.320 --> 00:06:11.600 On a sad note just in the paper this morning I don't know if anybody had read the Denton 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:20.360 record chronicle or online they had an article on Dr. Vaila because he passed away I believe 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:23.360 Tuesday. 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:25.840 So that's a sad note. 00:06:25.840 --> 00:06:32.640 On a good note for that he was able to look at the concept drawings and so on that were 00:06:32.640 --> 00:06:38.320 submitted by the artist Gary had showed him that and he was very pleased with that look. 00:06:38.320 --> 00:06:45.840 So it's nice to know that he had that opportunity to see that before he had passed. 00:06:45.840 --> 00:06:53.840 Did anybody have any other questions about the Vaila art? 00:06:53.840 --> 00:06:57.360 Okay let me move along then. 00:06:57.360 --> 00:07:03.360 Tennis center that hasn't been initiated yet but I think we can hold the kickoff meeting 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:06.160 for that particular piece real quick here. 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:13.360 Most of that tennis center is completed enough that we can go ahead and have shots and so 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:18.040 on so that when we put the scope together the artist is going to be able to see really 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:19.480 what's there. 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:22.480 And so we'll have to have that subcommittee meeting to be able to do that. 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:31.660 So let's expect a meeting or a meeting notice for those people on that bigger group. 00:07:31.660 --> 00:07:33.040 So that's really not much there. 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:37.660 Any questions on that? 00:07:37.660 --> 00:07:43.560 Okay fire station number three they're still doing a lot of work out there. 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:48.360 They have not completed the fence on last check that I understand. 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:53.400 That sculpture will be placed in an area in front of the fence so it's also difficult 00:07:53.400 --> 00:08:00.600 to be able to give a setting to a artist that needs to provide the proposal without having 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:09.440 that particular area completed so we know really what's going to happen with it. 00:08:09.440 --> 00:08:17.400 John on this project for our next meeting we will have sites for us to possibly select 00:08:17.400 --> 00:08:19.000 on where that art piece will go. 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:24.160 As the fire station is being finished we'll be able to take better pictures and get a 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:30.040 true aerial shot on what that fire station looks like and where the potential art could 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:39.720 go in the future to help better make these make the decision. 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:47.520 Any other questions? 00:08:47.520 --> 00:08:51.800 Foundations of our history mural if anybody has been out there to take a look and see 00:08:51.800 --> 00:08:57.880 how it's got completed yesterday and it looks really good. 00:08:57.880 --> 00:09:03.920 I actually have included a few pictures that were two weeks ago and you can see the artist 00:09:03.920 --> 00:09:08.680 working here and it was difficult I think because of different weather patterns that 00:09:08.680 --> 00:09:14.720 we had and you can't put the paint on when the temperature is going to freeze the paints 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:19.000 or it's not going to stick really well but you can see kind of here just how that was 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:24.600 progressing and then the final layer that protective coating was not put on these at 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:30.920 this point and so when they did that the pictures I just saw this morning it really makes the 00:09:30.920 --> 00:09:38.640 colors come much more just like a glaze might do on that and so you can see one view from 00:09:38.640 --> 00:09:41.080 underneath for that side there. 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:46.560 Did anybody have any questions? 00:09:46.560 --> 00:09:52.280 Can I just make a comment that the times I've driven past this in the past few weeks everybody 00:09:52.280 --> 00:09:58.120 I know loves it hands down this has been a wonderful project from start to beginning 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:02.640 or start to finish but that it has also slowed down traffic and I know that we've talked 00:10:02.640 --> 00:10:07.760 about public art as a traffic calming device so maybe we're contributing to safety as well 00:10:07.760 --> 00:10:09.640 as beauty in the neighborhood. 00:10:09.640 --> 00:10:15.040 Well I drove by once and the artist was there and it stopped traffic because they were yelling 00:10:15.040 --> 00:10:23.240 out to go and talk to him so it's so true it does affect traffic. 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:26.120 Okay moving right along then. 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:31.560 YMOK Rec Center Sculpture we had a meeting scheduled this morning but that didn't happen 00:10:31.560 --> 00:10:36.400 with Madeline Wiener we're going to try to touch base with her again we're looking at 00:10:36.400 --> 00:10:42.760 preparing the site and planning out the installation for that you can remember from some of the 00:10:42.760 --> 00:10:49.760 past meetings that we've had we talked about moving it from the location that was in the 00:10:49.760 --> 00:10:55.560 tree area where it couldn't be seen it wasn't easy to get to for people that were leaving 00:10:55.560 --> 00:11:00.600 or waiting for rides so we're going to be moving the flagpole and installing in that 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:05.760 general area and part of the meeting that we want to talk to her about is what we want 00:11:05.760 --> 00:11:10.440 to do for like stamp concrete around it and some of the colors and adjustments to some 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:15.000 of the landscaping also around the building and so on just to kick things up a little 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:16.000 bit for that. 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:20.500 Drew did you have anything to add? 00:11:20.500 --> 00:11:25.440 That is all you know that we were going to talk to the artist about we're also having 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:31.280 a meeting internally on Friday with the Martin Luther King recreation staff and not only 00:11:31.280 --> 00:11:36.560 this is evolving and this is what we really like about art and about you know beautifying 00:11:36.560 --> 00:11:40.960 areas is that you know this piece will go in will beautify the area on where the artwork 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:51.920 will go but we're also going to enhance the entire landscaping for the rec center so. 00:11:51.920 --> 00:11:57.280 Did anyone have any questions? 00:11:57.280 --> 00:12:04.720 Okay moving along all right lots of things happening with the women's interracial fellowship 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:11.320 monument again we're looking at we've had meetings with the landscape architects for 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:19.840 the park we as you can recall we had a plan for that park previously that council didn't 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:25.160 come in line with so we're reworking that quite a bit you know be able to have things 00:12:25.160 --> 00:12:30.680 more focused on this particular art piece for the park and so we've had lots of conversations 00:12:30.680 --> 00:12:36.480 with the landscape architects and we've had conversations with the artist and for everything 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:43.560 from lighting to engineering of the area degrading all of those to and adjustments of where things 00:12:43.560 --> 00:12:50.880 might go in the park so we haven't completely finalized that as a start yet she has started 00:12:50.880 --> 00:12:56.480 some fabrication for the different pieces and ordering all her parts and there's there's 00:12:56.480 --> 00:13:01.960 things that she's going to need but what she really needs and I did send out an email to 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:09.200 the subcommittee over this and I believe Michelle and responded for that she's going to be able 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:14.680 to help is that she needs kind of boots on the ground be able to possibly meet with some 00:13:14.680 --> 00:13:21.200 of the different members of the DWIF and I have an updated list of that but I don't have 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:27.600 a complete list and so we need to make sure that everybody that's represented on the DWF 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:32.880 gets recognized in this whole process from previous conversations that I've had with 00:13:32.880 --> 00:13:37.000 Lenny McAdam she also mentioned that well some people came on for just a little while 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:42.200 to do a certain thing and then they didn't they weren't interested and so on so it's 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:46.640 going to be I think difficult to nail down that we even talked I talked with the artist 00:13:46.640 --> 00:13:51.920 that maybe we can leave a few of the discs or panels open if we happen to discover somebody 00:13:51.920 --> 00:13:57.560 that we missed that we can come back and and work them back into that side of it so we're 00:13:57.560 --> 00:14:03.400 still finalizing some of those plans but she's gone ahead and has been working with us on 00:14:03.400 --> 00:14:09.600 a location of those the curtain wall type piece and then where the discs and various 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:14.800 things are going to get located so that it all matches really in with the park some of 00:14:14.800 --> 00:14:20.160 the lighting we're talking about having more of the those festival lighting drew what's 00:14:20.160 --> 00:14:28.440 that name of that lighting that goes across the top the string lighting yeah the string 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:34.000 lighting that helped to give it a different different look and very inviting location there 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:42.800 especially after you know dark and so on to keep everything well lit for it so we do need 00:14:42.800 --> 00:14:47.240 help we need to need some boots in the ground and I think Michelle has stepped forward to 00:14:47.240 --> 00:14:52.080 be able to provide some of that but I think that she's going to need some additional help 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:57.560 with that so anybody that can help Michelle great Michelle did you have anything to add 00:14:57.560 --> 00:15:10.840 to that she's wondering I have bad audio my house is old and full of bricks I have bad 00:15:10.840 --> 00:15:18.080 internet connection in here I have a list a lot of these women are interested in being 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:24.720 part of the conversation as the monument gets developed and yeah and so if y'all know anybody 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:31.480 personally please go ahead and and I guess contact John or me and we'll add them to the 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:38.080 list but so far the response from the the women and their children has been really positive 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:50.520 and everybody wants to have their say and in what gets remembered absolutely any other 00:15:50.520 --> 00:16:11.240 comments okay I'll come back to the screen then see if I can get it advance and that 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:18.840 was pretty much all we had as far as the updates we had actually we had one more I think we 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:29.480 had sent out for some information on the medallions and I think Drew we got that into the meeting 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:37.080 agenda yes we did so Drew I don't have anything here on a PowerPoint for it so Drew would 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:43.040 you like to address that yes so I would like to address this committee on the medallion 00:16:43.040 --> 00:16:50.480 so if you remember and then I'm sure if you've driven on I-35E we do have the UNT medallions 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:57.440 that are hung on the wall and then they are lighted and so at we've had several different 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:04.480 discussions with TechStat there was an issue a design and a construction issue when installing 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:12.920 those medallions so typically whenever they build those walls for the bridge embankments 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:21.480 on TechStat roadways those those concrete pieces to the wall are slid in they're prefabricated 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:28.560 stamped concrete and you can you know you can imagine anything to go on the walls I 00:17:28.560 --> 00:17:33.520 mean look at if you know driving all around DFW for instance just down the road here the 00:17:33.520 --> 00:17:39.320 Lake Louisville bridge you know they have the different types of fish and boats stamped 00:17:39.320 --> 00:17:44.840 into those walls that is the easiest way to put any kind of medallion that we would want 00:17:44.840 --> 00:17:50.600 into the walls that it's very cost effective if we would want medallions in the future 00:17:50.600 --> 00:17:57.200 for I-30 for the main I-35 after it merges or anywhere on I-35W they did suggest that 00:17:57.200 --> 00:18:02.440 we go that way to have those and then we did you know we work through an artist to have 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:09.240 those medallions designed they can then put that into CAD and then have the stamp the 00:18:09.240 --> 00:18:15.280 you know the the wall piece stamped to whatever medallion size or design that we wanted if 00:18:15.280 --> 00:18:23.780 we did want to continue with the hanging medallions like we have on I-35E for UNT in the UNT area 00:18:23.780 --> 00:18:29.880 we would need to the city would need to come up with extra the extra construction cost 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:35.920 and the extra extra design cost because the wall has to be designed to be able to withstand 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:42.480 the weight of the medallion so if you're following me if you know a normal wall it just gets 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:48.000 stamped a different style and in colored a different way if a medallion is hanging on 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:52.960 it it's almost like if we hang a really heavy picture or a cabinet you know on our wall 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:58.460 we can't just hang it in the drywall we have to find a stud and it has to be you know really 00:18:58.460 --> 00:19:02.160 substantial to be able to hold that amount of weight depending on how much it weighs 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:07.160 so that was their their concern we can do it and we you know we can definitely make 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:13.120 it happen the city will just have to fund the construction dollars and the design dollars 00:19:13.120 --> 00:19:20.080 to re-engineer the wall above and beyond what TxDOT has already agreed upon and and already 00:19:20.080 --> 00:19:26.180 has in their or already will do in the future for those walls so that that's something that 00:19:26.180 --> 00:19:31.920 we can we really need to start thinking about now you know what we want there obviously 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:37.580 you know we have UNT designed you know they have those medallions overall 535E after the 00:19:37.580 --> 00:19:43.660 merge you know we were thinking of you know TWU you know we have we have that college 00:19:43.660 --> 00:19:48.720 that sometimes kind of gets left out of different conversations just because you know UNT being 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:54.800 so much bigger but you know that that's really the you know main access to TWU is university 00:19:54.800 --> 00:19:59.940 so would it be really nice to have TWU medallions and we work with the university to hang you 00:19:59.940 --> 00:20:05.560 know their types of medallions on after the I-35 merge and then what kind of medallions 00:20:05.560 --> 00:20:12.160 would we want in the merge area whenever they build those walls you know what's significant 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:19.640 to Denton is it the music theme is it you know more of a traditional art artistic theme 00:20:19.640 --> 00:20:24.960 is it you know I can go on and on on what the theme could be or what we would like to 00:20:24.960 --> 00:20:31.280 have there so I really want we don't have to make a decision today I am in the process 00:20:31.280 --> 00:20:36.160 of getting all the construction documents on their typical walls and the walls they 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:41.640 had to build to hang the medallions on and what the cost the difference of cost dollars 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:45.800 were I don't have that at the moment but hopefully we'll have it before next meeting we're working 00:20:45.800 --> 00:20:50.540 with TxDOT to get all those those figures and documents so that is something I wanted 00:20:50.540 --> 00:20:56.320 to bring up and maybe strike a discussion with this group on what you would like and 00:20:56.320 --> 00:21:09.240 wouldn't like for future medallions for the I-35s so I know we talked about music right 00:21:09.240 --> 00:21:14.600 Ed we had all those clever ideas several years back I don't think Drew was around then but 00:21:14.600 --> 00:21:20.800 do you remember those Terry and Ed I know remember those yes we had we had rather lengthy 00:21:20.800 --> 00:21:28.900 discussions about that and I think we picked a music theme at some point so I was even 00:21:28.900 --> 00:21:37.720 thinking back to when there are a concept for a park at Eagle and Elm I've seen a lot 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:43.160 of that moved around back and forth and eventually they'll build a sidewalk but I was thinking 00:21:43.160 --> 00:21:48.840 at some point we had the music theme kind of recurring both on a medallion and maybe 00:21:48.840 --> 00:21:54.200 in some of the entryway parks into the city. 00:21:54.200 --> 00:21:59.680 Eagle and Elm has started again we started it about 18 months ago and then the PEC4 project 00:21:59.680 --> 00:22:04.280 started and decided that they needed a new wastewater line there and some other improvements 00:22:04.280 --> 00:22:10.000 utility improvement center area so we halted the sidewalk has been repaired and our crews 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:16.920 are working now to put in the most strips and then all the river rock and landscaping 00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:23.360 for that we're calling that a beautification node and then I'm in the process now of designing 00:22:23.360 --> 00:22:31.600 a musical sign I'm trying really hard but it's going to be kind of a replica of the 00:22:31.600 --> 00:22:41.520 little d bike racks that we have you know downtown so I have a musical song in mind 00:22:41.520 --> 00:22:46.720 on how to dance the notes up and down the sign and obviously you know make the little 00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:51.760 d bike rack resemble it and make it really large on top of that sign and then in the 00:22:51.760 --> 00:22:56.900 middle of the sign you know it'll say city of Denton you know but along the sign it's 00:22:56.900 --> 00:23:03.440 almost dancing and it will have excuse me but I'm trying to be really abstract here 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:10.880 and really have a really good you know I guess imagination on this so most it won't it won't 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:15.600 be straight across like a musical bar of notes that most of us think of when we read sheet 00:23:15.600 --> 00:23:20.280 music but if we can you know have a little little bit of imagination the notes will start 00:23:20.280 --> 00:23:27.720 near the ground and then work their way up and over the sign and then come back down 00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:35.160 I would really like to entertain your interest on what song would be best in a landscape 00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:41.800 I guess model we were thinking you know the yellow rose of Texas I've looked through various 00:23:41.800 --> 00:23:47.620 different you know Google searches on who wrote songs about Denton and I can't come 00:23:47.620 --> 00:23:51.860 to one that really stands out in my mind but if something stands out in your mind please 00:23:51.860 --> 00:23:57.040 let me know that as far as I've gotten is about the sign size and the little d on top 00:23:57.040 --> 00:24:07.080 and then I've tried to move musical notes back and forth to make it fit so okay has 00:24:07.080 --> 00:24:11.840 somebody been that's been involved with the arts and jazz festival for a long long time 00:24:11.840 --> 00:24:18.240 my first thought is the hokey pokey or the chicken dance because Brave Combo is our resident 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:24.480 Grammy award-winning polka band and that was my first thought of something because I think 00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:30.160 Brave Combo kind of reflects the eclectic nature of Denton and music scene I do agree 00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:36.400 with that and maybe I can reach out to them to help help pick out a musical you know theme 00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:40.920 to that sign so that was my idea if you have other ideas please let me know because the 00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:48.640 original idea was just make a sign and put the little d on top but I want to be in parks 00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:52.320 and of course with art you can have it as much imagination as you want or as little 00:24:52.320 --> 00:24:57.280 as you want and so I'm I have a really good imagination so I wanted to make sure that 00:24:57.280 --> 00:25:01.600 you know if anything if you're driving by you know it also serve you know as a traffic 00:25:01.600 --> 00:25:06.680 calming you stop at that red light no matter which way you're going through there you typically 00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:11.900 stop at at all the way at all four ways so maybe you can look over there and if you have 00:25:11.900 --> 00:25:15.480 you know if you've been in music in any kind of time you can kind of look over and say 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:20.480 oh this is the song you know and it really brightens your day as you drive through there 00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:26.360 not only is it is it prettier than what it typically what it normally is but also maybe 00:25:26.360 --> 00:25:30.160 it brightens your day to say oh look you know I you know I really like the little feedback 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:34.720 racks downtown or look what Denton's doing and you know we have this musical theme so 00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:39.520 please let me know if you think of anything or if you have a different idea it's not in 00:25:39.520 --> 00:25:44.600 concrete yet so we hope to bring these ideas to you really soon and then eventually take 00:25:44.600 --> 00:25:48.840 them to council for approval so we can build that sign so but the everything landscape 00:25:48.840 --> 00:25:55.320 wise is going in now okay Drew I bet if you called Carl Fitch with brave combo I bet he'd 00:25:55.320 --> 00:26:00.360 have a whole lot of ideas okay so it might be a fun conversation to have sir 00:26:00.360 --> 00:26:13.680 so do we do we want to do think of maybe let's if we can steer back to the medallions maybe 00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:22.260 think of the TWU medallion sound right at you know I-35 and University does that sound 00:26:22.260 --> 00:26:29.620 okay to you I don't remember us talking about that one before I know we talked about other 00:26:29.620 --> 00:26:37.440 themes at some point but I guess it would be fair to include both of our universities 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:43.360 yes and then maybe we do some and then of course there's lots of bridges so maybe we 00:26:43.360 --> 00:26:48.720 do something you know and we stick to that musical theme you know that's unique to Denton 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:54.320 in the merge I think part of the medallion conversation Michelle if you remember the 00:26:54.320 --> 00:27:00.760 same that we were actually talking about the new bridge that goes over to Buckeyes yeah 00:27:00.760 --> 00:27:06.880 I think that's initially we were talking about putting something on that bridge pre-construction 00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:15.280 was and I'm thinking TWU came up I'm thinking a Denton theme and music came up so yeah because 00:27:15.280 --> 00:27:21.640 I think we had the ability to do four at the time maybe two different interchanges so that's 00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:26.760 what we were discussing back then okay I'm not for sure where that all went but we know 00:27:26.760 --> 00:27:32.760 that's constructed if we did any kind of medallion or wanted to do some kind of art piece in 00:27:32.760 --> 00:27:39.640 that area we would need to build a base at the wall and then and then almost abstractly 00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:44.600 hang it you know or anchor it in that base because you know we can't really touch the 00:27:44.600 --> 00:28:01.560 wall now so but if we if you want us to continue to look at that area we can also but we we 00:28:01.560 --> 00:28:08.240 will need some help on ideas or the Denton theme and musical theme if that's the direction 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:13.640 we want to go I want to pick Ed's brain though I mean I remember having a conversation I 00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:19.760 think with Terry and Ed about there was one that was like a microphone with stylized notes 00:28:19.760 --> 00:28:27.340 and a saxophone with stylized notes Ed does this ring a bell I don't think it's with us 00:28:27.340 --> 00:28:32.760 oh yeah it's not with us okay well but yes I remember I remember what we were talking 00:28:32.760 --> 00:28:40.080 about and with the microphone and the stylized notes we were talking about either doing it 00:28:40.080 --> 00:28:51.920 at where the new Bucky's bridge is and or the loop 288 exit because these were the primary 00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:57.920 northbound exits for Denton and we were trying to have some sort of signature kind of almost 00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:04.400 greeting public art as you come into town off of the interstate okay but Drew was on 00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:09.120 the same page as us we had we had a whole list of different ways that you could take 00:29:09.120 --> 00:29:14.800 a musical note and incorporate it into something else so I can go back and look at my notes 00:29:14.800 --> 00:29:21.840 or we can just bring fresh brainstorm a new I was thinking the park idea at Elm and Eagle 00:29:21.840 --> 00:29:30.160 where I was actually at maybe a guitar that was stylized guitar so Drew you're on we're 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:34.680 all on the same page we just kind of figure out how to move forward with that okay we 00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:40.120 can do some different options for Eagle and Elm and maybe we do something design something 00:29:40.120 --> 00:29:46.080 with a guitar and maybe a song that kind of flows through the guitar and then we can also 00:29:46.080 --> 00:29:56.800 do something with the little d and just bring different options for us to pick yeah so so 00:29:56.800 --> 00:30:00.360 what do you think about the medallions in the future do you want us to continue to looking 00:30:00.360 --> 00:30:06.960 at actually hanging the medallions on the wall or do you want to look at the stamp concrete 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:11.080 or maybe we look at both and then evaluate the cost difference because it will obviously 00:30:11.080 --> 00:30:18.520 be something that we'll need to go after funds for I'm thinking the stamp concrete is probably 00:30:18.520 --> 00:30:24.880 more permanent and I'm almost guessing more cost effective it is because designing it 00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:31.560 early and I'm pretty impressed with with the I-35 south of us at the exits for Lewisville 00:30:31.560 --> 00:30:37.520 and Highland Village with the boat thing with the lake theme and then the different colors 00:30:37.520 --> 00:30:42.360 stamped in I think that's really the way to go for the future because I'm thinking over 00:30:42.360 --> 00:30:50.500 time the the heavy medallions you know it's the anchors are gonna with weather and age 00:30:50.500 --> 00:30:55.960 the anchors are gonna have some issues and possibly you know continue continuing to keep 00:30:55.960 --> 00:31:12.840 the lighting going so I'm all for the for the earlier stamp concrete idea okay I like 00:31:12.840 --> 00:31:17.080 that idea as well because it's cheaper and you don't have to worry about hanging anything 00:31:17.080 --> 00:31:35.680 damaging the walls anything anyone else yeah I'm for that as well seems like a more logical 00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:55.680 way to go but whatever whatever the experts say I agree too well John that's what I had 00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:59.960 as far as I'm glad you brought Eagle and Elm up so that's what that's what I had as far 00:31:59.960 --> 00:32:04.960 as the medallions and then hopefully we can get and I'll call brave combo so if we can 00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:11.200 get maybe some different ideas and then we can get some options to you hopefully next 00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:25.680 meeting if not the meeting after it Monet that concludes our updates any concluding 00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:38.680 items we can close the meeting at 1234.