1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,340 We'll go ahead and open the January 28th meeting. 2 00:00:09,340 --> 00:00:10,340 Let's do roll. 3 00:00:10,340 --> 00:00:11,340 Monet Franklin is here. 4 00:00:11,340 --> 00:00:12,340 Michelle Lynn? 5 00:00:12,340 --> 00:00:13,340 Here. 6 00:00:13,340 --> 00:00:14,840 Meredith Ewing? 7 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:15,840 Here. 8 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,040 Alicia Egert is absent. 9 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,080 Jody Ismert is absent. 10 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:21,080 Fred Nicholson? 11 00:00:21,080 --> 00:00:31,200 Yes, he's absent. 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:32,200 Terry Nobles? 13 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,200 Here. 14 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:34,200 Ed Steele? 15 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:41,960 He's not on yet. 16 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,920 And Georgina Ngozi? 17 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:49,560 I'm assuming she's absent. 18 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,480 No, she's got on mute. 19 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:54,560 She's trying to find her mute button. 20 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:55,560 Yes, I am. 21 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:56,560 Yes, I am. 22 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,080 Here I am. 23 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:04,400 I was trying to find that mute button. 24 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:10,320 And agenda item number one is to consider approval of the minutes of December 4, 2020. 25 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:14,000 If we're ready, I'll go ahead and approve them. 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,120 I mean, I'll put the motion forward. 27 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,120 Sorry. 28 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,440 I'll go ahead and second. 29 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,880 Second. 30 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:25,880 All in favor? 31 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:26,880 Aye. 32 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:27,880 Aye. 33 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:28,880 My apologies. 34 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:29,880 You seconded? 35 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:30,880 I did. 36 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:31,880 Thank you. 37 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:45,480 At item B, receive report and hold a discussion and give staff input regarding the status 38 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,640 of the following public art committee projects. 39 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:55,400 One is the North Park Dog Park, two is the Roman Villa Athletic Complex, three is the 40 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,520 Tennis Center, four is Fire Station number three, five is the Foundations of Art History 41 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:05,240 Mural, six is the MLK Project, seven is the Interracial Fellowship Monument, and eight 42 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,680 is the I-35 Medallions. 43 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,400 Okay, Monet, I'll be giving the report on that one. 44 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:19,300 Let me share my screen here. 45 00:02:19,300 --> 00:02:20,300 How is that? 46 00:02:20,300 --> 00:02:21,300 Is everybody good? 47 00:02:21,300 --> 00:02:22,300 Can see that? 48 00:02:22,300 --> 00:02:23,300 Okay. 49 00:02:23,300 --> 00:02:31,800 All right, so our first project, let me see if I can get it to actually move. 50 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,720 There we go. 51 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:43,920 All right, North Lakes Dog Park, we have had some action on that before. 52 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:52,280 We'd submitted one of the proposals by an artist, but it was rejected by the subcommittee 53 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:57,340 because it was actually very, it didn't seem to have the same, what they were looking for 54 00:02:57,340 --> 00:03:00,120 is something that was more whimsical type of an affair. 55 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,360 It was thought to be too off the shelf type of thing. 56 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:10,400 So I've got some working in our purchasing department and they are going to be looking 57 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,400 at trying to get that in a local area for the cafe or to be able to put that out through 58 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,160 our regular systems for it. 59 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:24,840 One of the problems I think we had with the pre-selected artists was that a whole lot 60 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,840 of people had things that were very traditional looking and it didn't really have that same 61 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:34,200 type of thing that the subcommittee was looking for and that we had put into the proposal 62 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,760 scope of work. 63 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,760 So that's kind of where we're at. 64 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,160 We're looking at alternative ways to get that out and hopefully we can get somebody fairly 65 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:47,120 local that will want to be able to put something really nice together within our budget currently 66 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,440 have. 67 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:58,640 Do we have any questions? 68 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:06,080 Do you have any ideas like the timeline for when that might be submitted or complete for 69 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:12,480 us to push out to artists or and then I don't remember when this has to be completed for 70 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,560 us to maintain those funds. 71 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,640 It has to be completed by the end of August. 72 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:18,640 Okay. 73 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,120 So we still have some time. 74 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,800 The budget is not calling for something that's a very large sculpture and it's not something 75 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:32,320 like we were talking about with Vela which was so much bigger or the amount of complexity 76 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,400 that the DWAF has. 77 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,960 Okay. 78 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,960 Any other questions? 79 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:46,280 Okay, I will continue. 80 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:49,680 All right. 81 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,920 The second one is the Vela Athletic Complex. 82 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:57,040 Right now the artists are fabricating that work. 83 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:02,680 We've had several meetings with them, Drew and I and I think Gary and one where we talked 84 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:09,640 about doing something different around the base to help soften that area and so the artist 85 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,520 definitely wanted to be able to do that with something like a planter. 86 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:20,240 I know that when we had presented this to council that council gave kind of feedback 87 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,920 saying hey is that all metal, is that going to get hot? 88 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,640 We've looked into that and it's probably not going to get very hot enough to anything have 89 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:32,240 a touch to it but in order to prevent anything like that we're going to surround it a little 90 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,640 bit of landscaping and change maybe some seating around it. 91 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,200 Drew has been working with that. 92 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,720 Drew, did you want to provide any update for that? 93 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,800 We're finalizing the design now we're looking at all the infrastructure that needs to be 94 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:55,440 put in and what concrete work needs to be cut and redone to accommodate the electrical 95 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,440 and irrigation for those planter beds. 96 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:06,320 So we should have an update and a rendering for that next public art meeting. 97 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:11,600 On a sad note just in the paper this morning I don't know if anybody had read the Denton 98 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:20,360 record chronicle or online they had an article on Dr. Vaila because he passed away I believe 99 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,360 Tuesday. 100 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,840 So that's a sad note. 101 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:32,640 On a good note for that he was able to look at the concept drawings and so on that were 102 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:38,320 submitted by the artist Gary had showed him that and he was very pleased with that look. 103 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:45,840 So it's nice to know that he had that opportunity to see that before he had passed. 104 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:53,840 Did anybody have any other questions about the Vaila art? 105 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:57,360 Okay let me move along then. 106 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:03,360 Tennis center that hasn't been initiated yet but I think we can hold the kickoff meeting 107 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,160 for that particular piece real quick here. 108 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:13,360 Most of that tennis center is completed enough that we can go ahead and have shots and so 109 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:18,040 on so that when we put the scope together the artist is going to be able to see really 110 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,480 what's there. 111 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,480 And so we'll have to have that subcommittee meeting to be able to do that. 112 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:31,660 So let's expect a meeting or a meeting notice for those people on that bigger group. 113 00:07:31,660 --> 00:07:33,040 So that's really not much there. 114 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,660 Any questions on that? 115 00:07:37,660 --> 00:07:43,560 Okay fire station number three they're still doing a lot of work out there. 116 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:48,360 They have not completed the fence on last check that I understand. 117 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:53,400 That sculpture will be placed in an area in front of the fence so it's also difficult 118 00:07:53,400 --> 00:08:00,600 to be able to give a setting to a artist that needs to provide the proposal without having 119 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:09,440 that particular area completed so we know really what's going to happen with it. 120 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:17,400 John on this project for our next meeting we will have sites for us to possibly select 121 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,000 on where that art piece will go. 122 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:24,160 As the fire station is being finished we'll be able to take better pictures and get a 123 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:30,040 true aerial shot on what that fire station looks like and where the potential art could 124 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:39,720 go in the future to help better make these make the decision. 125 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:47,520 Any other questions? 126 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,800 Foundations of our history mural if anybody has been out there to take a look and see 127 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:57,880 how it's got completed yesterday and it looks really good. 128 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:03,920 I actually have included a few pictures that were two weeks ago and you can see the artist 129 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:08,680 working here and it was difficult I think because of different weather patterns that 130 00:09:08,680 --> 00:09:14,720 we had and you can't put the paint on when the temperature is going to freeze the paints 131 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,000 or it's not going to stick really well but you can see kind of here just how that was 132 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:24,600 progressing and then the final layer that protective coating was not put on these at 133 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:30,920 this point and so when they did that the pictures I just saw this morning it really makes the 134 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:38,640 colors come much more just like a glaze might do on that and so you can see one view from 135 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,080 underneath for that side there. 136 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:46,560 Did anybody have any questions? 137 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:52,280 Can I just make a comment that the times I've driven past this in the past few weeks everybody 138 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:58,120 I know loves it hands down this has been a wonderful project from start to beginning 139 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,640 or start to finish but that it has also slowed down traffic and I know that we've talked 140 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:07,760 about public art as a traffic calming device so maybe we're contributing to safety as well 141 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,640 as beauty in the neighborhood. 142 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:15,040 Well I drove by once and the artist was there and it stopped traffic because they were yelling 143 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:23,240 out to go and talk to him so it's so true it does affect traffic. 144 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,120 Okay moving right along then. 145 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:31,560 YMOK Rec Center Sculpture we had a meeting scheduled this morning but that didn't happen 146 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:36,400 with Madeline Wiener we're going to try to touch base with her again we're looking at 147 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:42,760 preparing the site and planning out the installation for that you can remember from some of the 148 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:49,760 past meetings that we've had we talked about moving it from the location that was in the 149 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:55,560 tree area where it couldn't be seen it wasn't easy to get to for people that were leaving 150 00:10:55,560 --> 00:11:00,600 or waiting for rides so we're going to be moving the flagpole and installing in that 151 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:05,760 general area and part of the meeting that we want to talk to her about is what we want 152 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:10,440 to do for like stamp concrete around it and some of the colors and adjustments to some 153 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:15,000 of the landscaping also around the building and so on just to kick things up a little 154 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,000 bit for that. 155 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,500 Drew did you have anything to add? 156 00:11:20,500 --> 00:11:25,440 That is all you know that we were going to talk to the artist about we're also having 157 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:31,280 a meeting internally on Friday with the Martin Luther King recreation staff and not only 158 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:36,560 this is evolving and this is what we really like about art and about you know beautifying 159 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:40,960 areas is that you know this piece will go in will beautify the area on where the artwork 160 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:51,920 will go but we're also going to enhance the entire landscaping for the rec center so. 161 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:57,280 Did anyone have any questions? 162 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:04,720 Okay moving along all right lots of things happening with the women's interracial fellowship 163 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:11,320 monument again we're looking at we've had meetings with the landscape architects for 164 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:19,840 the park we as you can recall we had a plan for that park previously that council didn't 165 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:25,160 come in line with so we're reworking that quite a bit you know be able to have things 166 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:30,680 more focused on this particular art piece for the park and so we've had lots of conversations 167 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:36,480 with the landscape architects and we've had conversations with the artist and for everything 168 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:43,560 from lighting to engineering of the area degrading all of those to and adjustments of where things 169 00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:50,880 might go in the park so we haven't completely finalized that as a start yet she has started 170 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:56,480 some fabrication for the different pieces and ordering all her parts and there's there's 171 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,960 things that she's going to need but what she really needs and I did send out an email to 172 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:09,200 the subcommittee over this and I believe Michelle and responded for that she's going to be able 173 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:14,680 to help is that she needs kind of boots on the ground be able to possibly meet with some 174 00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:21,200 of the different members of the DWIF and I have an updated list of that but I don't have 175 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:27,600 a complete list and so we need to make sure that everybody that's represented on the DWF 176 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,880 gets recognized in this whole process from previous conversations that I've had with 177 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,000 Lenny McAdam she also mentioned that well some people came on for just a little while 178 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:42,200 to do a certain thing and then they didn't they weren't interested and so on so it's 179 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,640 going to be I think difficult to nail down that we even talked I talked with the artist 180 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:51,920 that maybe we can leave a few of the discs or panels open if we happen to discover somebody 181 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:57,560 that we missed that we can come back and and work them back into that side of it so we're 182 00:13:57,560 --> 00:14:03,400 still finalizing some of those plans but she's gone ahead and has been working with us on 183 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:09,600 a location of those the curtain wall type piece and then where the discs and various 184 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,800 things are going to get located so that it all matches really in with the park some of 185 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:20,160 the lighting we're talking about having more of the those festival lighting drew what's 186 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:28,440 that name of that lighting that goes across the top the string lighting yeah the string 187 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:34,000 lighting that helped to give it a different different look and very inviting location there 188 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:42,800 especially after you know dark and so on to keep everything well lit for it so we do need 189 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:47,240 help we need to need some boots in the ground and I think Michelle has stepped forward to 190 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:52,080 be able to provide some of that but I think that she's going to need some additional help 191 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:57,560 with that so anybody that can help Michelle great Michelle did you have anything to add 192 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:10,840 to that she's wondering I have bad audio my house is old and full of bricks I have bad 193 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:18,080 internet connection in here I have a list a lot of these women are interested in being 194 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:24,720 part of the conversation as the monument gets developed and yeah and so if y'all know anybody 195 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:31,480 personally please go ahead and and I guess contact John or me and we'll add them to the 196 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:38,080 list but so far the response from the the women and their children has been really positive 197 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:50,520 and everybody wants to have their say and in what gets remembered absolutely any other 198 00:15:50,520 --> 00:16:11,240 comments okay I'll come back to the screen then see if I can get it advance and that 199 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:18,840 was pretty much all we had as far as the updates we had actually we had one more I think we 200 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:29,480 had sent out for some information on the medallions and I think Drew we got that into the meeting 201 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:37,080 agenda yes we did so Drew I don't have anything here on a PowerPoint for it so Drew would 202 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:43,040 you like to address that yes so I would like to address this committee on the medallion 203 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:50,480 so if you remember and then I'm sure if you've driven on I-35E we do have the UNT medallions 204 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:57,440 that are hung on the wall and then they are lighted and so at we've had several different 205 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:04,480 discussions with TechStat there was an issue a design and a construction issue when installing 206 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:12,920 those medallions so typically whenever they build those walls for the bridge embankments 207 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:21,480 on TechStat roadways those those concrete pieces to the wall are slid in they're prefabricated 208 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:28,560 stamped concrete and you can you know you can imagine anything to go on the walls I 209 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:33,520 mean look at if you know driving all around DFW for instance just down the road here the 210 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:39,320 Lake Louisville bridge you know they have the different types of fish and boats stamped 211 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:44,840 into those walls that is the easiest way to put any kind of medallion that we would want 212 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:50,600 into the walls that it's very cost effective if we would want medallions in the future 213 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:57,200 for I-30 for the main I-35 after it merges or anywhere on I-35W they did suggest that 214 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,440 we go that way to have those and then we did you know we work through an artist to have 215 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:09,240 those medallions designed they can then put that into CAD and then have the stamp the 216 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:15,280 you know the the wall piece stamped to whatever medallion size or design that we wanted if 217 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:23,780 we did want to continue with the hanging medallions like we have on I-35E for UNT in the UNT area 218 00:18:23,780 --> 00:18:29,880 we would need to the city would need to come up with extra the extra construction cost 219 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:35,920 and the extra extra design cost because the wall has to be designed to be able to withstand 220 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:42,480 the weight of the medallion so if you're following me if you know a normal wall it just gets 221 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:48,000 stamped a different style and in colored a different way if a medallion is hanging on 222 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,960 it it's almost like if we hang a really heavy picture or a cabinet you know on our wall 223 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:58,460 we can't just hang it in the drywall we have to find a stud and it has to be you know really 224 00:18:58,460 --> 00:19:02,160 substantial to be able to hold that amount of weight depending on how much it weighs 225 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:07,160 so that was their their concern we can do it and we you know we can definitely make 226 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:13,120 it happen the city will just have to fund the construction dollars and the design dollars 227 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:20,080 to re-engineer the wall above and beyond what TxDOT has already agreed upon and and already 228 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:26,180 has in their or already will do in the future for those walls so that that's something that 229 00:19:26,180 --> 00:19:31,920 we can we really need to start thinking about now you know what we want there obviously 230 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:37,580 you know we have UNT designed you know they have those medallions overall 535E after the 231 00:19:37,580 --> 00:19:43,660 merge you know we were thinking of you know TWU you know we have we have that college 232 00:19:43,660 --> 00:19:48,720 that sometimes kind of gets left out of different conversations just because you know UNT being 233 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:54,800 so much bigger but you know that that's really the you know main access to TWU is university 234 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:59,940 so would it be really nice to have TWU medallions and we work with the university to hang you 235 00:19:59,940 --> 00:20:05,560 know their types of medallions on after the I-35 merge and then what kind of medallions 236 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:12,160 would we want in the merge area whenever they build those walls you know what's significant 237 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:19,640 to Denton is it the music theme is it you know more of a traditional art artistic theme 238 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,960 is it you know I can go on and on on what the theme could be or what we would like to 239 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:31,280 have there so I really want we don't have to make a decision today I am in the process 240 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:36,160 of getting all the construction documents on their typical walls and the walls they 241 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:41,640 had to build to hang the medallions on and what the cost the difference of cost dollars 242 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,800 were I don't have that at the moment but hopefully we'll have it before next meeting we're working 243 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:50,540 with TxDOT to get all those those figures and documents so that is something I wanted 244 00:20:50,540 --> 00:20:56,320 to bring up and maybe strike a discussion with this group on what you would like and 245 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:09,240 wouldn't like for future medallions for the I-35s so I know we talked about music right 246 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:14,600 Ed we had all those clever ideas several years back I don't think Drew was around then but 247 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:20,800 do you remember those Terry and Ed I know remember those yes we had we had rather lengthy 248 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:28,900 discussions about that and I think we picked a music theme at some point so I was even 249 00:21:28,900 --> 00:21:37,720 thinking back to when there are a concept for a park at Eagle and Elm I've seen a lot 250 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:43,160 of that moved around back and forth and eventually they'll build a sidewalk but I was thinking 251 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:48,840 at some point we had the music theme kind of recurring both on a medallion and maybe 252 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:54,200 in some of the entryway parks into the city. 253 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:59,680 Eagle and Elm has started again we started it about 18 months ago and then the PEC4 project 254 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,280 started and decided that they needed a new wastewater line there and some other improvements 255 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:10,000 utility improvement center area so we halted the sidewalk has been repaired and our crews 256 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:16,920 are working now to put in the most strips and then all the river rock and landscaping 257 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:23,360 for that we're calling that a beautification node and then I'm in the process now of designing 258 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:31,600 a musical sign I'm trying really hard but it's going to be kind of a replica of the 259 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:41,520 little d bike racks that we have you know downtown so I have a musical song in mind 260 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:46,720 on how to dance the notes up and down the sign and obviously you know make the little 261 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,760 d bike rack resemble it and make it really large on top of that sign and then in the 262 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,900 middle of the sign you know it'll say city of Denton you know but along the sign it's 263 00:22:56,900 --> 00:23:03,440 almost dancing and it will have excuse me but I'm trying to be really abstract here 264 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:10,880 and really have a really good you know I guess imagination on this so most it won't it won't 265 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,600 be straight across like a musical bar of notes that most of us think of when we read sheet 266 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:20,280 music but if we can you know have a little little bit of imagination the notes will start 267 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:27,720 near the ground and then work their way up and over the sign and then come back down 268 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:35,160 I would really like to entertain your interest on what song would be best in a landscape 269 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:41,800 I guess model we were thinking you know the yellow rose of Texas I've looked through various 270 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:47,620 different you know Google searches on who wrote songs about Denton and I can't come 271 00:23:47,620 --> 00:23:51,860 to one that really stands out in my mind but if something stands out in your mind please 272 00:23:51,860 --> 00:23:57,040 let me know that as far as I've gotten is about the sign size and the little d on top 273 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:07,080 and then I've tried to move musical notes back and forth to make it fit so okay has 274 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,840 somebody been that's been involved with the arts and jazz festival for a long long time 275 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:18,240 my first thought is the hokey pokey or the chicken dance because Brave Combo is our resident 276 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:24,480 Grammy award-winning polka band and that was my first thought of something because I think 277 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:30,160 Brave Combo kind of reflects the eclectic nature of Denton and music scene I do agree 278 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:36,400 with that and maybe I can reach out to them to help help pick out a musical you know theme 279 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,920 to that sign so that was my idea if you have other ideas please let me know because the 280 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:48,640 original idea was just make a sign and put the little d on top but I want to be in parks 281 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,320 and of course with art you can have it as much imagination as you want or as little 282 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:57,280 as you want and so I'm I have a really good imagination so I wanted to make sure that 283 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,600 you know if anything if you're driving by you know it also serve you know as a traffic 284 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:06,680 calming you stop at that red light no matter which way you're going through there you typically 285 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,900 stop at at all the way at all four ways so maybe you can look over there and if you have 286 00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:15,480 you know if you've been in music in any kind of time you can kind of look over and say 287 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:20,480 oh this is the song you know and it really brightens your day as you drive through there 288 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:26,360 not only is it is it prettier than what it typically what it normally is but also maybe 289 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:30,160 it brightens your day to say oh look you know I you know I really like the little feedback 290 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,720 racks downtown or look what Denton's doing and you know we have this musical theme so 291 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,520 please let me know if you think of anything or if you have a different idea it's not in 292 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,600 concrete yet so we hope to bring these ideas to you really soon and then eventually take 293 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,840 them to council for approval so we can build that sign so but the everything landscape 294 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:55,320 wise is going in now okay Drew I bet if you called Carl Fitch with brave combo I bet he'd 295 00:25:55,320 --> 00:26:00,360 have a whole lot of ideas okay so it might be a fun conversation to have sir 296 00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:13,680 so do we do we want to do think of maybe let's if we can steer back to the medallions maybe 297 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:22,260 think of the TWU medallion sound right at you know I-35 and University does that sound 298 00:26:22,260 --> 00:26:29,620 okay to you I don't remember us talking about that one before I know we talked about other 299 00:26:29,620 --> 00:26:37,440 themes at some point but I guess it would be fair to include both of our universities 300 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:43,360 yes and then maybe we do some and then of course there's lots of bridges so maybe we 301 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:48,720 do something you know and we stick to that musical theme you know that's unique to Denton 302 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:54,320 in the merge I think part of the medallion conversation Michelle if you remember the 303 00:26:54,320 --> 00:27:00,760 same that we were actually talking about the new bridge that goes over to Buckeyes yeah 304 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:06,880 I think that's initially we were talking about putting something on that bridge pre-construction 305 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:15,280 was and I'm thinking TWU came up I'm thinking a Denton theme and music came up so yeah because 306 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:21,640 I think we had the ability to do four at the time maybe two different interchanges so that's 307 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:26,760 what we were discussing back then okay I'm not for sure where that all went but we know 308 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:32,760 that's constructed if we did any kind of medallion or wanted to do some kind of art piece in 309 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:39,640 that area we would need to build a base at the wall and then and then almost abstractly 310 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,600 hang it you know or anchor it in that base because you know we can't really touch the 311 00:27:44,600 --> 00:28:01,560 wall now so but if we if you want us to continue to look at that area we can also but we we 312 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:08,240 will need some help on ideas or the Denton theme and musical theme if that's the direction 313 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:13,640 we want to go I want to pick Ed's brain though I mean I remember having a conversation I 314 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:19,760 think with Terry and Ed about there was one that was like a microphone with stylized notes 315 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:27,340 and a saxophone with stylized notes Ed does this ring a bell I don't think it's with us 316 00:28:27,340 --> 00:28:32,760 oh yeah it's not with us okay well but yes I remember I remember what we were talking 317 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:40,080 about and with the microphone and the stylized notes we were talking about either doing it 318 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:51,920 at where the new Bucky's bridge is and or the loop 288 exit because these were the primary 319 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:57,920 northbound exits for Denton and we were trying to have some sort of signature kind of almost 320 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:04,400 greeting public art as you come into town off of the interstate okay but Drew was on 321 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:09,120 the same page as us we had we had a whole list of different ways that you could take 322 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:14,800 a musical note and incorporate it into something else so I can go back and look at my notes 323 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:21,840 or we can just bring fresh brainstorm a new I was thinking the park idea at Elm and Eagle 324 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:30,160 where I was actually at maybe a guitar that was stylized guitar so Drew you're on we're 325 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,680 all on the same page we just kind of figure out how to move forward with that okay we 326 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:40,120 can do some different options for Eagle and Elm and maybe we do something design something 327 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:46,080 with a guitar and maybe a song that kind of flows through the guitar and then we can also 328 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:56,800 do something with the little d and just bring different options for us to pick yeah so so 329 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,360 what do you think about the medallions in the future do you want us to continue to looking 330 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:06,960 at actually hanging the medallions on the wall or do you want to look at the stamp concrete 331 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,080 or maybe we look at both and then evaluate the cost difference because it will obviously 332 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:18,520 be something that we'll need to go after funds for I'm thinking the stamp concrete is probably 333 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:24,880 more permanent and I'm almost guessing more cost effective it is because designing it 334 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:31,560 early and I'm pretty impressed with with the I-35 south of us at the exits for Lewisville 335 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:37,520 and Highland Village with the boat thing with the lake theme and then the different colors 336 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,360 stamped in I think that's really the way to go for the future because I'm thinking over 337 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:50,500 time the the heavy medallions you know it's the anchors are gonna with weather and age 338 00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:55,960 the anchors are gonna have some issues and possibly you know continue continuing to keep 339 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:12,840 the lighting going so I'm all for the for the earlier stamp concrete idea okay I like 340 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,080 that idea as well because it's cheaper and you don't have to worry about hanging anything 341 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:35,680 damaging the walls anything anyone else yeah I'm for that as well seems like a more logical 342 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:55,680 way to go but whatever whatever the experts say I agree too well John that's what I had 343 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,960 as far as I'm glad you brought Eagle and Elm up so that's what that's what I had as far 344 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:04,960 as the medallions and then hopefully we can get and I'll call brave combo so if we can 345 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:11,200 get maybe some different ideas and then we can get some options to you hopefully next 346 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:25,680 meeting if not the meeting after it Monet that concludes our updates any concluding 347 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:38,680 items we can close the meeting at 1234.