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 >> Welcome everybody to this special call meeting of the Denton code review committee

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 on Thursday, January 14th, 2020. It is 4.05 in the afternoon. We do have a quorum present.

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 We are doing this virtually based on the Governor's orders, allowing us to do it in this manner,

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 suspending certain sections of the Texas Open Meetings Act. Our first item of business

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 is consider approval of the November 18th, 2020 minutes. And I will go ahead and make

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 the motion since I'm the only one of the three councilmembers that was actually there, so

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 I can verify it to be true. So if I can get a second. Councilmember Davis.

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 >> I'll second. >> All right. We have a motion and a second,

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 so we'll do a roll call vote. As Chair, I'm going to aye. Councilmember, or Mayor Pro Tem

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 Davis. >> I'll vote aye.

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 >> Okay. And Councilmember Johnson. >> We don't know Councilmember Johnson's

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 on the call. >> Okay. Well, we do have a majority voting

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 in favor of it, so those are approved. We'll go on to item B, receive a report, hold a

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 discussion. >> I'm sorry.

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 >> It's 3.0. >> 3.0.

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 >> Item B, receive a report, hold a discussion related to the purpose of the Denton code review

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 committee. >> Great. Thank you, Chair. I'm going to

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 go ahead and share my screen for this presentation.

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 >> That's not going to work out for me. >> There we go. And again, as the Chair mentioned,

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 this is just to go over a little bit about the DCRC. I know that we have two new members,

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 Councilmember Johnson as well as Mayor Pro Tem Davis, our new members of the DCRC. And

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 as such, we want to make sure that we go over the purpose of the committee and there's a

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 couple items that we want to address as well. >> Ron, before you get started, I know Councilmember

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 Johnson is on just the phone, so she's unable to see your presentation. Councilmember Johnson,

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 if he emailed this presentation, would you have a computer you could follow along on

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 with that? >> Yes, that would be great. I'm trying to

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 get the Zoom thing to work out, but, you know, my house doesn't really support this whole

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 thing. >> Okay. Let me go ahead and do that. I'll do it really quickly and I'll send it

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 to you, Councilmember Johnson. >> All right. Thank you.

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 >> I guess give me a few minutes to do that and then we'll go ahead and you can see, for

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 those that are able to see it, that is the first slide there is the introductions. I'll

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 do this quickly. Here we go.

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 [ Video playing ] >> Okay. Thank you. I'm going to go ahead and

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 do that. Almost there. I don't know where I am. I'm going to go ahead and do that. I'm

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 going to send it to you. Okay. Councilmember Johnson, I just sent it to you. You should

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 have it in a few seconds. >> All right. Thank you.

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 >> So while Councilman Johnson pulls that up, I'll just go ahead and talk a little bit about

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 the committee and the make-up of the committee. As you can see, it is made up of three council

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 members, Chair John Ryan, Jesse Davis, as well as Berdia Johnson, and then the three

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 councilmembers, I'm sorry, commissioners, planning zoning commissioners are Angela Rozelle, Margie

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 Yales, who is not able to join us this afternoon, and then Tim Smith as well. The staff that

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 makes up the team for the DCRC as far as development code amendments, Scott McDonald, Richard Canone,

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 myself and Sean Jacobson, who represent development services. Erin Lial and Mack Rhinewand is

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 with our legal department, and Erin is on the call, and I see Erin here. We also have

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 Becky DeViney, who is working from the engineering side to give us input when it comes to engineering

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 related code amendments. And then we have two consultants that assist us in this process,

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 Robert, sorry, Robin Miga and Christian Grillet, who are planners/attorneys, and again, they're

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 primary purposes to assist us in any lane use, as well as any development code related

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 matters in terms of their experiences. They bring a lot of experiences from other cities,

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 so from time to time, they will be participating in presentations and assisting us in answering

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 any questions or requests that the council, I'm sorry, the committee has for the team.

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 Dr. Johnson, have you gotten the PowerPoint presentation up yet?

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 Awesome. Thank you. Does anybody have any questions with regards to the makeup of the

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 DCRC and staffs, the staff that's assigned to this committee? Okay. I know that we have

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 a few members that are here. I don't know if there are others that may have joined the

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 call that I missed. If you have, please let me know. Okay. So Scott's on here and then

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 Mac as well. So these are our staff that are, again, going to be responsible for bringing

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 forward any items as far as code amendments and any other requests that you all feel that

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 is necessary for this effort. So I'll go ahead and again, go back to the presentation and

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 go to the next slide. Some of you, I'm sorry, some of you, but for both Mayor Pro Tem Davis

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 and Councilman Johnson, the next slide that we're looking at is the DCRC objective. Obviously,

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 the purpose of the DCRC is to assist in the code amendments, providing review guidance

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 and also prioritizing any of the code amendments that we have proposed, as well as recommending

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 any code amendments that you see as necessary. We hope to hold discussions and you providing

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 us with the direction that ultimately we will bring forward to both the Planning, Zoning

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 Commission and to the full City Council for their consideration. A couple things that

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 the DCRC, as approved by the recent resolution that reestablished the DCRC, has a time limit

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 as far as when it or the committee was to expire or start, sorry, stop, that is March

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 31st is the timeframe that we've identified and also wanting to talk about this ad hoc

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 committee as far as continuing, just focusing on a very short time or if there's an entertainment

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 to change this a bit. So Scott, if you can just add to that discussion with regards to

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 the timeframe for this committee. Absolutely. Good afternoon, Scott McDonald,

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 Director of Development Services for those of you that have not met, we have not met.

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 What Ron is referencing is this ad hoc committee was created and really reinstituted and through

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 that process Council Member Davis had a recommendation to perhaps have this as a standing committee

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 and there may be some value in doing that. So just wanted to have that and I don't know

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 that Aaron or Mac are aware of that as of yet, but did discuss it with the City Manager's

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 office. They thought that it might be a good idea that this committee be available as we

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 talk through some of these larger projects or items that are coming forward. So really

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 is just kind of a conversation as to whether we continue as an ad hoc or that this become

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 a regular committee for the Council. And I know that's a Council decision, but really

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 wanted to make sure that the group understood that and then whether Council Member Davis

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 of new members and we thought it might be best just to have some one-on-one meetings

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 to really give you more of the history, a little bit more detail and answer some of

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 those specific questions that you may have rather than the group going through a lot

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 of that and I'll stand for any questions. Scott, I think I would agree with Council

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 to do the new code and now we're, you know, kind of going through and fixing some things

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 that we found that aren't working that it probably would be good to be just a standing

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 committee because it's just the nature of, you know, the development code is there's

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 always going to be a little something and, you know, what process would we need to take

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 it through to get it there? So, you know, I would say that's probably

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 something we do want to take to full Council and see how they feel about it.

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 of things to have this body available to really kind of vet, get a little bit of the flavor

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 of where it is that PNZ is where, you know, several Council members are and so I agree

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 and I do like it. Okay. Commissioner Roseau?

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 I appreciate it. Just on my two cents on the matter, I'm not sure the historicity of having

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 a joint committee between planning and zoning and City Council being standing, but not having

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 PNZ offer a vote or real and official say here, I just don't know the merit of asking

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 PNZ when really, I'm happy to be a sounding board and listen to ideas, but I don't, we,

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 the commissioners don't have a vote or real say here. We can certainly tune in via the

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 zoom and report back to our own commission and write letters and emails to our Council

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 Any other questions or comments? Okay. And that might just be part of the discussion

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 Well and Ron, I just wanted to add, and again, just because of the timing with, with March,

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 that we probably would be going beyond March is there. So we just need to look at it. And

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 if we want to continue this group as an ad hoc for an extended period of time, IE, if

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 we took it out to the next quarter through June, something to that effect. And then if

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 we look at something that's more permanent, that's just council, or if we change that

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 structure and Mr. Chair, you'd probably have the best insight to that kind of how we ended

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 know that we've really taken that many votes per se. It's more of consensus and, and commissioners

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 are always welcome to, you know, voice any of their opinions and we've learned many things

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 Thank you. Sorry. I thank you for being patient with me. I was actually on a team's call in

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 another council committee meeting just a second ago. That's done, full of attention. You know,

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 nobody wants to be in a meeting that could have been an email, right? But I can tell

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 you it was persuasive when we talked about the R3 setbacks, side yard setbacks on Tuesday,

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 it was persuasive that this committee had, had discussed the issue, had vetted it out

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 and, and then referred it up to council, you know, and if, if it's a committee, whatever

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 the makeup is, if it's a committee that's doing the work and is doing valuable work,

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 you know, the council can, can set it up however they choose. I mean, that we can, we've got

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 all sorts of wacky boards that have appointees from all sorts of quarters around town. They

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 have to be top 20 taxpayer or they have to be this, they have to be that, they have to

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 be on the council, they have to be not on the council. We can do it however we like.

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 So I, I'm in favor of whatever is best suited to doing the work and moving it forward.

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 Chair, just to, to get some direction as far as the, the committee makeup and, and what

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 to city council as soon as possible so that we can decide before we start delving into

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 some of the code, the code amendments? Yeah, I think that would be a good idea. Okay. Work

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 be one of the council members addressing that? Does it matter? It can be either way. I mean,

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 can bring a one minute pitch. It just, they can bring this forward or staff can do it.

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 talking about a council committee. Yes. Commissioner Smith. Thank you, Chair. I, I echo commissioner

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 know, commissioner or mayor pro tem Davis's points about there are three setbacks. It

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 was also very important during our conversation on PNC last Wednesday, whenever we talked

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 to maybe put it to them to see if it's a, if anybody would have any disagreement with

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 us, uh, moving forward. So commissioner Roselle. Yeah. Real fast. Uh, Christopher Davis are,

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 uh, mayor pro tem Davis. I don't know what we call people. Um, uh, you brought up excellent

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 have a standing committee to go back to PNC and kind of put out that expectation of who

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 would want to volunteer or be appointed, uh, cause it's one thing to say, Hey, we have

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 an ad hoc meeting, uh, committee set up for six months who's in, or it's, we don't know

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 the end of this service. You need to commit to two years or during your term on however

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 that looks, just allow individuals to be eyes wide open when they are fully committed to

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 a good expectation of what's expected of the plan and zoning commissioners.

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 is that you'd like to carry this forward staff, uh, we're absolutely willing to, to bring

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 it forward as a work session, um, and, and provide some options and kind of the background

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 and what it is that, that, um, we hear from consensus here between, uh, ultimately Mayor

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 that, uh, commissioner Roselle was, when we were meeting in person, wasn't able to prior

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 to COVID, uh, there's been more since COVID that he's been a little more regular and commissioner

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 Smith is not took a commissioner Beck's place, I believe, um, so, you know, we've been kind

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 of rotating out. It can be, you know, we change not much, but we do have the ability to change

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 committee makeup every year, so it wouldn't necessarily be for your full term. It would

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 be for, you know, for a year at a time. Um, and I don't, I think once we get through this

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 Thank you. So, um, on, on a similar topic or a follow up topic that, um, was mentioned

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 by Scott, uh, is for those two new members, um, again, Mayor Pro Tem Davis, as well as

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 Councilman Johnson, we would like to bring you up to speed. The DCRC has met, um, late

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 last year and there are a couple of things that we've already gone through and we'd like

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 to bring you up to speed and, and are proposing a one-on-one meeting with, with you and we

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 to the, uh, schedule, uh, of the meetings and I know you probably need to read the caption

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 Great. Um, hopefully you all can see the slide in front of you. Obviously, the DCRC meeting

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 meetings are being recorded. They are virtual as of now. Um, however, um, I know we were

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 talking about, you know, current says we, we want to get your input on how often we

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 shall have these meetings and also start to look at days and times of the week to again

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 try to schedule these meetings in advance. So, um, open for discussion, um, as to how

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 often y'all want to meet. Uh, we do have a number of code amendments that we can certainly

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 bring and meet every week, but I don't know if that's something that, you know, the committee

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 would like. Uh, we're open to your input on how often you like to have the DCRC convene.

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 Any, any comments on this? Councilmember Davis or Mayor Pro Tem Davis. Um, y'all can call

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 me anything you like. It's just fine. Um, I've been called plenty of things. Uh, I'd

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 say it's, it's really an as needed. Um, I, I suppose that, uh, there could be a point

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 in time where there's an issue so sticky that it, it does go to meeting pretty regularly

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 or meeting, just have the meeting and spitballing the ideas. But, uh, definitely at this point

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 feels like a, as an as needed, maybe even, uh, quarterly or, uh, or a bi-monthly standing

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 date. But then like a lot of our committees, you know, they send out the cancellation notice,

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 they have the standing date. It doesn't get used all that often. Um, you know, just when

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 they're called upon for some statutory duty or something. But, um, I would say infrequently,

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 right? Okay. Yeah. I think we do have several items because we, you haven't seen the presentation

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 that we had a couple of months ago about all the stuff that they were trying to bring back

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 to us. So I would think they're probably going to be, you know, every week or every other

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 month even, uh, at that point. And, and just for, for, uh, informational purposes, uh,

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 when we met in person, if I agreed with him, it was Chris. And if I disagreed with him,

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 it was Mr. Mayor. Yeah, I was going to say we were, we were fairly informal, which worked

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 well. Um, we, we, we really were just trying to work through the issues and make sure that

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 we were clear. So I like that one, Mr. Chair. Uh, commissioner Smith. Thank you chair. Um,

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 we are talking about the, we're not, we're talking about the ad hoc piece of this, correct?

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 for going forward. If this was a standing committee, um, Ron, how much is left for us

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 to go through from that original? How much did we get through from that original meeting

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 that you showed us when we reformed the DCRC? I, if I were to quantify it, I would say half.

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 And that was over the course of, I think, four, uh, weekly meetings? Probably four.

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 and pretty, uh, involved. From a city staff standpoint with, uh, you know, a March election

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 preferable for us to wrap everything up, um, for, uh, for the DCRC if we didn't have to

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 council member, uh, Ryan is also up for election. Right. Uh, you know, when we first started

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 this back, uh, earlier or late last year, we put down a spring timeframe. Uh, so now

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 that we've kind of, uh, uh, paused a little bit in our reconvening, um, you know, we're

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 looking at another, I would say no three months at least to get through the other half, um,

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 um, give or take. So that's, that's what we're looking for. So it's obviously going to get,

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 uh, it's going to be after March. So we couldn't, we couldn't, we couldn't do four more weekly

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 the first half, your estimation. I think it's going to be a little bit longer than maybe

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 that thing, I might just recommend we go back to weekly, even though I know we all have

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 busy, busy lives and schedules, I'd hate to get through, uh, you know, only half of the

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 last half that we've got left to look at it from this, you know, the big pressing items

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 and then us have to reset if something were to go poorly for anybody in the election.

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 get through, you know, we're looking at three months worth of stuff. We can definitely get

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 through that. Um, I think if I recall correctly, we used to meet at, on Fridays at lunchtime

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 when we're, when we're meeting every week and that time works well for me. I know, uh,

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 these days, obviously we have council meetings and Thursdays I've got a packed agenda. I

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 would be good for me. Friday seemed to work well in the past. So just to kind of get that

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 Thank you, Tim, for kind of, uh, narrowing my focus a little bit there. I was a little,

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 a little off with the, the topic. Uh, Fridays work well. Nobody else has a claim to Fridays

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 so far. Um, people tend to stay away from it. So if we're going to be the workaholics

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 Council member Johnson. Friday's good for me as well.

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 Commissioner Smith, do you have any or commissioner Roselle? I don't have any. I only have a few,

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 a few things on Fridays that will maybe bump me off and be able to join, but in general

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 that would work fine for me as well. So commissioner Roselle, uh, Wednesday afternoon is generally

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 work. Okay. Uh, we might've stumbled on something here. Uh, there, um, council member Johnson

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 it would work for me as well. Okay. And mayor Pro Tem, uh, what time are y'all usually using

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 that we're trying to accommodate and look at, uh, maybe that two or three o'clock window.

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 the afternoon. Um, but I can be, I can be flexible. So with that being said, I guess

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 what we did to the past, we were working kind of through lunch. We were actually, um, doing

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 lunch. So it was 11 to one window. Um, but we can do a, we can do a noon one o'clock,

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 give it, give us a two hour timeframe. Richard, do we, do we want to have maybe a

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 option one, option two, just to make sure we can confirm it with DTV to make sure that

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 there's nothing else scheduled, um, so that these can continue to be recorded, televised.

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 then the latest, you know, you know, as soon as we can get done, obviously it'd be a three

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 Okay. That sounds good. Uh, were there any other parts of that? I don't remember everything

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 we got the, the day of the week, we got the potential start times. Uh, we, we typically

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 have an hour and a half of discussions. Uh, we, when we set up the agenda or the presentations,

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 we try to make sure that we not go over to two hour and we want to, we want to make it

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 a productive, but at the same time we don't want it to be, we don't want it to run too

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 long. Uh, this, the last three items on this list is really, um, the agenda and presentations

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 will be sent out to you all, you know, obviously before the meeting, um, when it's posted.

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 So you know, as early as possible, but minimum 72 hours, uh, in advance. Uh, and then of

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 course, as you already know, the minutes, uh, will be included as part of these efforts.

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 available and will be posted similar to all of the other boards and commissions. Um, the

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 next item on the agenda or just future agenda items with regarding, with regards to the

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 chair and vice chair, I know that we've got two members, two union members as far as city

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 council members, and we want to just have the opportunity to bring up the, uh, opportunity

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 for, uh, obviously a vice chair, but also considering a chair as well. So we'll include

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 that in our next agenda. When we have our next meeting, uh, we will also go over, uh,

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 the code amendment lists as we start to look at how we want to address those. Uh, and in

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 part of that presentation, we will, I will share with you all where we are on that list

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 we are. And when you do get that presentation, you'll see how far we've gone and how far

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 we need to go still. And that is it as far as, um, my presentation. Are there any questions

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 that we can answer? I can answer. Any questions? I'm not seeing any. I make, I make the assumption

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 Mr. Chair, if, uh, that, uh, Jesse or Berrio would prefer to have a one-on-one meeting,

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 if maybe we might be able to scratch out a time or two that might work or maybe they

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 don't. What works best for me is generally, um, getting, uh, you know, three, four, five

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 options of when staff's available or when they're thinking about, and then, uh, throwing

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 a dart at that board and finding one. Um, I have a few standing things. Y'all are aware

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 of most of them. Um, but every week is kind of different from the last. Okay. And yes,

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 I would like to do that. And so if you can give me some times that are available, that

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 you have a couple of times in mind now, we can, we can certainly accommodate. Um, so

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 staff had sent me an email. I have not heard from DTV as of yet, but, uh, Jessica has a

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 tiers meeting until one 30 every other Wednesday. And then, you know, we ultimately have P and

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 Z on the opposite Wednesday, starting at three or after. So, um, it seems as if it may be

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 available the same weeks as P and Z. Does that create a problem for either the commissioners?

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 All right. Um, and I would just ask for, when staff does come up with the time, if he can

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 send calendar invites app to everyone so that, you know, I'm, I'm running into this, I didn't

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 put this on my calendar and I got the email this morning. I was like, Oh, no, um, I'll

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 take responsible for that. This was, it was our coordination meeting. So we, we didn't

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 have a standing meeting. We'll definitely make sure that any future meetings, there

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 is a meeting invite sent to you all as soon as we have those dates. So we, we again have

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 an idea of when that will be in and confirm that your, you, your attendance will be made

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 city council and the planning zoning commission to talk about the, the makeup of the committee

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 and how we want to move forward. And then, um, we will send out, um, some times as to

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 when our next meeting will be based on the information that we've received. Obviously

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 you're making to PNZ and council. And here you, um, I mean, are, are there any, I'd have

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 to go back and look at the resolution of whether you're, you have any authority beyond advisory

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 you know, when we, if we have to renew or extend the, the, the resolution, including

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 other topics as raised by two of the commissioners, if the council desires that, um, where we

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 parameters that under which that will occur. Okay. Yeah. Cause I, as far as I know, it's,

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 it's always just been, we're making recommendations and hashing through all the code issues and

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 Johnson and mayor pro tem to, to the team and look forward to working with you in the

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 adjourned at 4 46.