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 Good evening ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the planning and zoning commission work

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 session meeting for Wednesday December 16th 2020.

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 Seeing that we do have a quorum I will call the meeting to order at 5.01.

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 Let the record show at this time Commissioner Anderson and Commissioner Pernetta are not

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 present.

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 With that I don't have any public comment for the consent agenda so we can hop into

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 item number two for the work session which is work session reports.

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 We just have one this evening hold a discussion regarding the overview of online GIS maps

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 and so I'll turn it over staff for presentation and also note that Commissioner Anderson has

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 joined us or is joining now.

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 We ready for the map overview Cody it is all you all right well good evening

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 everybody today I'm going to be going over three different interactive maps that we have

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 online I'm going to go ahead and share my screen.

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 Does everyone know Cody maybe maybe Cody if you can maybe just introduce yourself a little

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 bit.

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 Yeah I'm Cody Yates I'm GIS analyst for development services been making maps here for about five

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 years or so so also commonly known as the wizard thank you Richard can everybody see

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 my screen that I got pulled up yes we can all right so I'm going to be going over three

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 maps today our active projects map our weekly project submissions map and our interactive

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 map the quickest way you can get here from our website is you go up to governments and

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 then go down through the open government and click maps you'll get pulled up to our GIS

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 map section here so first one I want to go over is our active projects map and pull that

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 one up so when you pull that up you're going to see a whole lot of colors and if you click

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 down here there is a legend you pulled up and it'll tell you what all these different

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 colors are so they got different representations we got the rezoning specific use permits variances

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 all different types of projects color coded in here and at the bottom you'll notice that

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 we have a big table it's first loaded up the rezoning so you can click each individual

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 tab here and it'll pull up each different type of project so if you were to click on

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 any of these project polygon boundaries it'll pull up the project ID project name the case

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 manager for that project and its current status this one was approved with conditions and

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 over on him on the left we had the layer list which is similar to the legend but I'll let

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 you check off and on different layers in case you were just cared about a particular one

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 and if you were to scroll down on this list say we go to a specific use permits check

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 out s28 legacy multifamily already double click that it would then zoom right into that project

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 and you can see its project boundary where it's located all the information for it you

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 can do the reverse by clicking on a project and clicking zoom to in the bottom left corner

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 does the same and if you don't care for the topography we got in the background you can

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 go down to base map here and click on any of these different background maps that we

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 have available and there's a see imagery hybrid one I could zoom in and then see the the background

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 for that project we also have a measure tool it's pretty basic you can measure acreage

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 area check your units or also just a distance and then there is also the print tool so you

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 could if you zoom into a particular area the map of the project boundaries you can then

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 print it out to a PDF or just print straight to the printer and then we have the select

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 tool it's by default is going to be selecting everything but let's say you just want to

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 select rezoning so you can check off all these zoom out a little bit click the select tool

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 and then drag and it will create a box and highlights all of those rezonings in there

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 and I'll tell you these highlighted seven of them if you were to click on that it'll

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 show all seven that you've selected and then you can click on one get that information

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 popped up you go to the rezoning tab and everyone that you've selected is now highlighted in

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 blue here so that's pretty handy okay it looks like a question from Commissioner Smith yeah

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 go ahead new chair hey Cody can you go back to do the measurement again yeah let me pull

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 that up so we got the measure tool down here let me zoom down into one let me get our topography

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 map back on a little easier to see what's going on here and I'm gonna clear the selection

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 so we got these three projects or four projects here I can do the miles I'll just set it down

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 to feet now click on a point here it doesn't does it does it do anchorage yes if the first

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 one is the area and the second one is just the distance so if you do the first one you

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 can do acreage here square feet whatever unit you want and you just click on a point click

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 again and then you just keep clicking and so you've got whatever boundary you want set

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 and then double click when you're finished and it tells you the total acreage got you

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 yeah there's been a couple times where we've looked at projects where it's been like how

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 far away is it from xyz where is where is this and this would be a good tool thank you

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 appreciate it yeah it's pretty handy and the measure tool works very similarly you just

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 click click again to end it or if you want to make multiple measurements just click once

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 and then double click when you're done and has a lot for you got it and does it only

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 do a straight line yes it only does in straight lines so getting curves might be a little

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 tricky but you can just keep clicking individually and you can zoom in to get more accurate measurements

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 gotcha gotcha gotcha okay understood all right uh thanks yeah no problem and over on the

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 left here we have a home button which if you press press we'll go back to the main zoom

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 out area there's a location button that should zoom into your location the zoom in and out

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 if you don't want to use a mouse tool this should also work on mobile so if you ever

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 pull it up on your uh your mobile phone you can do all the same just straight from it

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 and we have the address bar up here so you can type in an address zoom straight to that

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 and then we have approved projects and denied projects listed down here tells the status

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 of them and then hey cody i think we lost you

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 cody we can see your screen uh but no audio is coming through

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 can you guys hear me yes we can uh seems my webcam may have been uh bugging out sorry

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 about that uh we lost you right when you clicked in the city council districts okay uh so city

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 council districts if you load up that tab um you can see all the districts on here and

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 you can click on one and zoom straight to that one and if you pull up the legend like

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 it did here and scroll down to the bottom it shows you what the colors of those districts

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 uh represent so i think that's um pretty much everything uh except for the options here

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 on the table you could if you wanted to export this whole table into uh csv so you can have

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 it in an excel spreadsheet if you want so that's pretty handy do we have any particular

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 questions over this map uh yes christner beck yes thank you chair cody uh on the uh export

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 to csv uh do we have other options is it just csv we don't have jason i think it's just

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 csv but you should be able to load that up into an excel format and uh then convert it

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 into any other excel format right and then my second question is um a second ago you

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 you did an area select and uh it highlighted a number of active projects um in in blue

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 uh can can you dump just the the highlighted selection when you on the table oh you mean

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 if you select the certain one and then export just that one yes can you do that i believe

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 you can so in the table here if you have it um on the left side there's these kind of

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 gray buttons you can do it the same way there and if you click and drag um actually it doesn't

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 work like that you can click one at a time here but um let's see i have all these selected

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 right now i'm gonna let's just select one for now we're gonna go to this one we have

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 it selected you go export and i'm gonna open that one up and we have that one product can

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 you see this right here can't i'm sorry i'm gonna get popped up in a different screen

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 but i can confirm it does select that one that you had selected export it out so i guess

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 my question is if you have the seven it it's not going to force me to go back and click

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 them one at a time it's going to export the seven i don't believe it would but let me

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 see if i can test that for you real quick i'm gonna select two different ones here so

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 we got seven selected in the rezoning export this out and yes it does also awesome thank

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 you cody whatever which ones that you have selected it'll export just those out now do

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 note that that would just be for if you were doing one type you may have to go in to each

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 individual if you want to rezoning and specific use permits and export them separately any

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 other questions for cody on this map i don't see any cody okay all right well i'm going

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 to move on to the next one here that is our weekly submission list projects it's very

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 similar it's just a very toned down map version of the other one this has only the projects

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 that were submitted like this week and it's a from a list compiled by our planning techs

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 so you can see here there is only eight records currently on this map and next week it'll

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 be around seven or eight different records it's very very similar to the other one it

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 does have a little different information so we have the contact email contact number for

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 the project managers listed on here the acreage current zoning lot counts if you were to click

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 on this all that information pops up there you have over on the top right the legend

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 the layer list

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 and other than that it's it's the same kind of format you can export these as well it's

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 just a much simpler looking map that has just the this week's projects any questions for

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 cody on the weekly submission list map sure if i'm if i may just add i don't know if you

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 notice the difference some of the older projects just may have had the project name some it

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 may have included the planner i think if you see as you can see here you'll see what the

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 acreage current zoning trying to get a lot more information as we continually to upgrade

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 this so it has whoever the applicant is the project manager which is either one of the

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 facilitators in some instances would be a planning staff member as well as their telephone

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 number and email that way if somebody did have a specific question on a project they

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 know who's in charge of that project and they could reach out to them directly

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 christian are back thank you uh cody or richard when you do a district selection and you get

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 all the uh the uh active or weekly projects in a district um is there a similar tool for

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 e t j is there is there a tab out for e t j or you have to select all and then unselect

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 districts how would you get the e t j is what i'm asking for are you talking about the just

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 the boundaries for the e t j i'm not sure i fall projects in the e t j oh projects in

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 the e t j um well i'm pulling back on the previous map here so we do have some previous

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 projects that were in the e t j uh they just wouldn't be listed under that particular council

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 district yeah on the weekly it might even be easier to just sort because there wouldn't

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 be a zoning district assigned to it

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 yeah no i i guess the district thing was a little bit of a red herring the the question

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 was more if i wanted to see the projects in the e t j there's not a specific tab for those

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 oh just specifically just filter out the ones in the e t j i'm currently no i don't believe

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 so but um if that's something you guys are interested in we could probably work to add

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 them it's not something i'm requesting at the moment uh i was just curious if it was

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 already built in not not at the moment

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 so if you were to look on here and see that it's not one of these districts that would

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 mean it's an e t j

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 and then to just point before we call them over current zoning if you just sorted by

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 that it'd be blank if it was e t j

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 zoning would be blank would it well we wouldn't have a city zoning that's true we wouldn't

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 have a designation would we it doesn't look like any of these weekly projects are in e

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 t j though so there's they're all they all have a population i feel

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 any other questions for the weekly submission map

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 awesome two down all right and go on to the interacting map now this one uh you may have

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 seen before it's an entirely different beast it's got uh tons of different layers they

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 all over here on the right side um so let me go through something so this one here the

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 fourth one down projects turn that on it looks very similar because it's the same projects

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 that are over on our active projects map just in this format of the map uh you can do pretty

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 similar things um with this um the main tool you're going to want to use on this map though

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 is this um identify tool it's down here with a little i click on that and then click on

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 any uh project or parcel it will now pull up every layer that you have turned on that

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 falls within that point that you've selected so um you've selected this parcel and uh this

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 flat and in the county let me scroll out and select one of these projects here seems to

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 have some issues with the projects but it any other layer will pull up information so

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 if you select the planning the default layer that turns on is the current zoning they have

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 to give it a second to load all

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 say the labels here we got the current zoning and we have future land use previous zoning

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 voter districts and we have the female layer contours wastewater gas well layer uh turn

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 on the gas well later turn off planning real quick there are this the active gas well padside

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 uh buffers we have set here a 500 and 1000 foot buffer i go over here so you can see

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 from these uh gas flows you have a 500 foot and 1000 foot set on here and you can just

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 have that turned on for every gas flow in the city so that's a handy layer to know about

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 and then up here on the top right we have it set to the uh regular background but if

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 you drag this over all the way you turn on our aerial imagery if you want to you could

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 only drag it halfway and kind of have it faded in the background and then up in the tools

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 we have another measuring tool does the same as the other ones did so you can select and

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 draw lines that measure and you can do the same for an area with acreage square feet

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 whatever you like we also have many different search functions so you can search by parcel

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 property id you can search by uh projects and track it and then up in the map section

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 we um you can save a particular bookmark of a location and you can print out maps

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 but this is primarily useful because you know you can all the different types of layers

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 that we have stored within our system do we have any particular questions any particular

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 layers you guys might be looking for commissioner beck yeah thank you chair uh cody when you

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 select something with a body of water in it does it include the body of water in the in

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 the characteristic features i don't believe so i think that that's more of a background

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 layer okay so for example if if i wanted to know how much uh acreage was in a detention

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 pond or over there in part of the lake i would have to select an area boundary uh calculate

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 the area and then yeah you could pick that one and then get the acreage for the entire

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 parcel does that acreage include the body of water it does not include the body of water

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 by default yes the area would be including the body of water i believe um but you could

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 if you wanted to measure out that body of water get an estimate on that and then subtract

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 it out or you call up our gis department here we could measure we have a separate um i believe

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 lakes and rivers layers that we could calculate the area from there i don't believe we have

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 them available on this interactive map but um if that's something that is done often

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 you can see about adding it in so my second question is um if we as we have more layers

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 is this a server side or client side is it is my computer gets slower um i believe it's

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 server side um i'm currently running it from my personal desktop and um seems to be running

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 fairly fine okay um a laptop might have a little bit more difficulty if you're using

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 a lot of layers but um i think for the most part it should run fine awesome thank you

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 cody appreciate it is there any other questions okay if you could just show sorry sorry chair

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 the um the integration with track it and where they're going where we're going so just to

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 give everyone an idea um i don't know if you want to maybe click on a parcel that recently

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 was platted um up on maybe try windsor right there at um windsor and 35 let's see uh one

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 of these ones on the left here work um to the north right right there all right so i'm

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 going to identify this property here and uh we have a map link to dcad here to click on

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 that pulls out a whole uh link to dcad for that property yeah and just for a shortcut

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 at least my little shortcut that i use when you click on that dcad link you can it'll

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 save you plat so if you ever need to pull the plat on the property this is sort of a

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 shortcut as opposed to going through um our laser fish and so if it's recorded it'll automatically

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 pull the plat up for that um for that parcel and so if it is a drainage pond or a detention

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 area uh it may it may very well have that acreage right on the uh on the plat and i

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 don't know why that's not pulling up the track it you might have to click it to the other

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 other parcel for some reason yeah that particular one doesn't seem to have track it info on

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 it but let me try oh you know what may have been because i took off the property layer

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 yeah there we go yeah here we go so if you click on it so if you scroll on the bottom

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 you'll see this track it search yeah so if you go over to the one that just says parcels

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 not the uh dentin sde parcels uh the dentin sde parcels is linking out to dcad's parcels

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 which has different information but it doesn't have our tracking info that's down here on

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 the bottom of the parcel layer and here you can see we have the dcad info along with code

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 enforcement reports plat as bills and a track it search which richard was mentioning which

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 you can then select and it will show all track it uh projects and permits associated with

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 that particular property so that's where it's part of the new software those will actually

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 be all linked together right now we're running track it and project docs once we integrate

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 everything into track it all of that information will be there and and the intent really is

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 so say if it's a rezoning you'll be able to click and access that approved ordinance um

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 through this as opposed to uh waiting having to go through open records and and uh various

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 other requests so that way it would be available immediately and i've already seen it working

00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:27.800
 on some other properties i don't know why it's not on that one but i have pulled them

00:23:27.800 --> 00:23:35.600
 up and seen projects associated so there's permits that one doesn't have any projects

00:23:35.600 --> 00:23:49.360
 but it's got many different cases you can see all the side info on contact speeds

00:23:49.360 --> 00:23:58.600
 uh how much of everything is on the the public facing website right so this is all completely

00:23:58.600 --> 00:24:04.760
 public data there's there's no city private data uh yeah what i'm viewing right here is

00:24:04.760 --> 00:24:14.720
 all on the public site okay i think the only thing that's not shown um would be dme facilities

00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:20.400
 some of the electric facilities um but it does show if you click on that water and wastewater

00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:27.320
 layer it'll show the lines where those lines are maybe not exact location um but it will

00:24:27.320 --> 00:24:34.200
 show where there's availability as well as the size of those lines well and since you

00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:40.120
 brought it up at his right right of way lines and other things all of that would be there

00:24:40.120 --> 00:24:51.200
 awesome uh cody uh thank you for the presentation is there any other questions um for these

00:24:51.200 --> 00:25:00.360
 three maps that he walked us through this evening i do not oh commissioner beck so i

00:25:00.360 --> 00:25:05.640
 mentioned this before in the matrix discussions over various meetings but um i found this

00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:12.800
 very helpful and we see this bi-weekly um and so uh is there intent to do uh public

00:25:12.800 --> 00:25:21.000
 outreach with a similar training yeah we talked internally already about um after after the

00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:27.880
 last meeting and so uh they're working through uh public affairs as well as dtb to uh come

00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:34.000
 up with a whether it's just a simple um video like this um that kind of walks everybody

00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:38.320
 through so so they are that is in the works and would be available will be available oh

00:25:38.320 --> 00:25:47.400
 i think you're gonna have a lot of pleased at night so that'd be awesome uh cody i don't

00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:51.940
 see any other questions but i appreciate you uh walking us through these three maps yeah

00:25:51.940 --> 00:26:01.080
 no problem thank you very much okay with that we can hop into uh our agenda for this evening

00:26:01.080 --> 00:26:06.880
 we have uh minutes to approve uh it's item two for a regular meeting from december 2nd

00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:16.440
 is there any um notes or uh changes that we can or need to make on these minutes uh seeing

00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:19.880
 none we'll continue forward and i just want to let the record show before i forget that

00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:25.600
 uh commissioner anderson is now with us with commissioner perneta so they're both all here

00:26:25.600 --> 00:26:32.640
 now uh going to the consent agenda we have three items for the consent would anyone like

00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:43.320
 any of these items pulled for review christian rebec thank you chair um yeah i if when we're

00:26:43.320 --> 00:26:50.760
 having i just have some questions about uh b3b okay uh if julie's around can we uh trouble

00:26:50.760 --> 00:27:03.400
 her to present 3b pp 20-0025a she's coming up now

00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:08.080
 good evening let me pull up the presentation and i apologize if you could repeat which

00:27:08.080 --> 00:27:20.320
 plat you are um 25a uh item 3b

00:27:20.320 --> 00:27:26.040
 mockingbird and cecilia

00:27:26.040 --> 00:27:27.040
 this one

00:27:27.040 --> 00:27:36.600
 i'm sorry it was 220-0025a the one before this

00:27:36.600 --> 00:27:43.880
 ah there okay no no that's what next one next one oh there we go yes how can i help you

00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:52.320
 so um some some folks in the public had some questions about um exactly where the definitions

00:27:52.320 --> 00:27:59.520
 of of right away and uh i wanted to see if you could help address that um when we talk

00:27:59.520 --> 00:28:07.600
 about the 60 or 65 foot right of ways uh along mockingbird um can can you define where those

00:28:07.600 --> 00:28:16.400
 are where those boundaries are uh along mockingbird along this location yes certainly on the west

00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:21.800
 end of the property sure so mockingbird lane is um is a collector road within the city

00:28:21.800 --> 00:28:28.280
 of denton which requires a certain um width of right of way and so they are um they are

00:28:28.280 --> 00:28:33.760
 required to dedicate that right of way um consistent with the mobility plan and that

00:28:33.760 --> 00:28:38.320
 um that roadway section so they are they are dedicating that right away consistent with

00:28:38.320 --> 00:28:45.040
 the mobility plan and is it 65 feet from the edge of the road can can you help just describe

00:28:45.040 --> 00:28:52.520
 that for the public 65 feet um would be uh the the maximum width um in in this instance

00:28:52.520 --> 00:28:58.320
 i believe and so it would be a half of that from the center line of the road so 32 and

00:28:58.320 --> 00:29:05.360
 a half from the center line of the road 65 feet total width and and um just to kind of

00:29:05.360 --> 00:29:11.600
 further explain right of way right of way also not only includes um the uh the the travel

00:29:11.600 --> 00:29:18.240
 lanes for a road it also includes the curb and gutter and then um any parkway and sidewalk

00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:24.520
 all of that goes within a right of way and and is it um is it always symmetric or you

00:29:24.520 --> 00:29:33.760
 could have you know 40 on one side and 60 on the other um it's always whatever width

00:29:33.760 --> 00:29:40.480
 a right of way is required for the mobility plan um a a property owner would have to dedicate

00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:46.360
 half of half so the center line is always in the same spot and and wherever that property

00:29:46.360 --> 00:29:54.200
 line for any individual property they would have to dedicate half of whatever um or enough

00:29:54.200 --> 00:30:00.160
 enough right of way to equal that half width of that total right of way so that it would

00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:07.520
 always follow that same center line did i explain that so yes uh so in a in a hypothetical

00:30:07.520 --> 00:30:16.520
 let's say let's say it was 65 and you were doing a 32 and whatever 37 and a half um no

00:30:16.520 --> 00:30:26.480
 30 and two and a half 32 and a half um i only work with numbers for a living um and so if

00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:30.840
 let's say the existing property in the west this is just a hypothetical i'm not accusing

00:30:30.840 --> 00:30:37.560
 the property in the west of this but let's say that was 20 feet from center line um therefore

00:30:37.560 --> 00:30:43.880
 would be non-conforming by our current standards would the new property owners have to dedicate

00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:49.960
 45 feet from center line so there was a total of 65 or they would only be required to dedicate

00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:57.640
 32 and a half feet they would only have to dedicate um so i guess following that hypothetical

00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:04.380
 um if if a hypothetical property was on the west side of a road that required a 65 total

00:31:04.380 --> 00:31:09.920
 feet of right of way wherever the center line was of that road they would have to dedicate

00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:17.040
 they would have to ensure that their right of way um would would um total 32 and a half

00:31:17.040 --> 00:31:22.240
 feet from that center line so they wouldn't have to necessarily make up the difference

00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:28.360
 on the opposite side um but they would have to ensure so if if if their property began

00:31:28.360 --> 00:31:34.640
 20 feet from that center line they would have to dedicate 12 and a half feet okay that that's

00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:42.320
 very clear thank you julie you bet great uh so all the consent agenda items are actually

00:31:42.320 --> 00:31:48.400
 julie's does anyone have any questions for her commissioner alice thank you chair yeah

00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:54.600
 um julie i did have a question on the first one on 3a and it's just really a clarification

00:31:54.600 --> 00:32:11.840
 let me that's the 2023a so my question yeah so my question is not on the plat per se okay

00:32:11.840 --> 00:32:18.320
 but in the ais it read once all required corrections are made the proposed preliminary

00:32:18.320 --> 00:32:24.160
 plat will conform with the sup so are there still corrections to this plat or is that

00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:32.260
 old info prior to the recommendation for approval you are exactly correct so this plat you've

00:32:32.260 --> 00:32:36.840
 actually seen before and it was um there was an extension approved so that that was actually

00:32:36.840 --> 00:32:42.560
 a um a uh editing error on my part for this one perfect that's what i need clarified thank

00:32:42.560 --> 00:32:53.320
 you you bet any other questions for julie okay let's go in the next items of business

00:32:53.320 --> 00:32:59.960
 which is our list of individual items of um or items for individual consideration rather

00:32:59.960 --> 00:33:06.800
 we got a lot of them um so we can just kind of get right to it um first one is item 4a

00:33:06.800 --> 00:33:17.560
 pp 20-0026b and this is karina malden autos that's not karina nope there she is it's me

00:33:17.560 --> 00:33:23.080
 i'm here gotcha all right looks like hayley's gonna be driving for you yeah thank you i

00:33:23.080 --> 00:33:33.080
 can't see the screen but i'm gonna assume it's up already it's not uh yet getting closer

00:33:33.080 --> 00:33:43.080
 yeah there it is i i'm at home so i got a lag online yeah it's up now okay uh so this

00:33:43.080 --> 00:33:49.640
 request is for a preliminary plat of 100 north loop 288 addition um there are some changes

00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:56.400
 on the caption then um from what was posted and now um so this part is being recommended

00:33:56.400 --> 00:34:03.520
 for denial but uh some comments were addressed so the changes related to this project um the

00:34:03.520 --> 00:34:10.800
 the total site area is rather than 5.97 acres it is now 19.49 um and that was to include

00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:18.760
 the parent tract um that was previously excluded um uh so staff is working recommending denial

00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:25.480
 um they did address several of the engineering comments um that that were posted um the items

00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:31.640
 that are outstanding are related to easement dedications dry waste basing drainage calculations

00:34:31.640 --> 00:34:39.560
 and tree preservation um uh so this this plat um already requested an extension at the last

00:34:39.560 --> 00:34:44.840
 meeting so they no longer have that option um so uh this is currently where we stand

00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:52.600
 at this point and with that i can take any questions any questions for karina back mr

00:34:52.600 --> 00:34:59.440
 beck yeah karina richard can someone remind me uh on a denial where the applicant wants

00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:05.320
 to continue going forward is that a reapplication fee and and what are the what are the steps

00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:12.600
 um if they go to correct these items it's a it's a it's a it's a resubmittal um it's

00:35:12.600 --> 00:35:17.040
 not a complete new application um it is a resubmittal and there is a resubmittal fee

00:35:17.040 --> 00:35:25.600
 associated with that okay thank you is the fee flat or is it dependent on the project

00:35:25.600 --> 00:35:32.520
 size it's flat i believe it's half the price of um i think it's 50 of the cost i have the

00:35:32.520 --> 00:35:39.800
 fee manual right in front of me great any other questions for karina okay let's go to

00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:51.560
 item 4b fp 20-0025a this is hayley's item

00:35:51.560 --> 00:35:55.760
 all right good evening commissioners uh this is the final plan for the wood mirror edition

00:35:55.760 --> 00:36:00.640
 uh we looked at this plan at our last meeting and they did request that extension um since

00:36:00.640 --> 00:36:05.160
 that time they they still have a couple of outstanding items uh primarily related to

00:36:05.160 --> 00:36:11.000
 the conservation easement um if you remember back to the zoning when council approved this

00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:14.760
 part of that condition was for conservation easements to be dedicated for the benefit

00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:20.120
 of the hoa um those easements are after discussion with our legal department we've determined

00:36:20.120 --> 00:36:23.880
 that those will be dedicated to the city and the city will hold them for the benefit of

00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:29.160
 the hoa since the hoa can't can't withhold and be the beneficiary of those easements

00:36:29.160 --> 00:36:35.560
 um so those easements are going to council in the at the um meeting tomorrow actually on december 17th

00:36:35.560 --> 00:36:40.920
 and if those are accepted then this plat assuming it is denied this evening would come back to you

00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:46.120
 all in january for approval once all of those conditions of the zoning are met um but at this

00:36:46.120 --> 00:36:53.560
 time staff is recommending denial because of that outstanding item thanks hayley is this going to

00:36:53.560 --> 00:36:58.760
 require a resubmission or is the applicant asking for an extension to come back in january

00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:04.120
 um they're they're not able to request a second extension under state law um so since they've

00:37:04.120 --> 00:37:09.480
 already done that um it it's not necessarily a resubmittal since there's nothing for staff

00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:14.040
 to review um we would place it back on the agenda in january once all the conditions are met

00:37:14.040 --> 00:37:18.360
 understood thank you any questions for hayley on this item

00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:28.040
 seeing none we're gonna stick with hayley for the next item for cfp 20-0027

00:37:29.640 --> 00:37:34.840
 um all right this is the final plat for the the woodlands edition um this property as you can see

00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:38.840
 is located on the north side of mckinney street um this is a mobile home park some of you may

00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:45.240
 remember um in 2018 uh or early 2019 came through for a zoning and sup for that

00:37:45.240 --> 00:37:50.200
 manufactured housing development um at this time staff is recommending denial of the request

00:37:50.200 --> 00:37:54.360
 um for all of the reasons that are outlined in exhibit two however the applicant has requested

00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:59.720
 an extension to the january 6th meeting to to give them time to work through those outstanding items

00:37:59.720 --> 00:38:06.840
 great any questions on this item commissioner beck this is sort of a generic because um

00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:14.040
 most of these these denials are denials with the extension seem to have sort of small outstanding

00:38:14.040 --> 00:38:20.600
 conditions that didn't quite get met um so this is why i asked that several meetings um

00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:26.840
 i keep asking the question um are these the type of things that can be met by the date we're

00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:34.600
 extending to and for many of these items uh they're they're not actually being met so i guess

00:38:34.600 --> 00:38:41.800
 is there is there some way to gauge how much time it would actually take so that we don't extend it

00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:47.400
 two weeks when it's going to take four weeks to do or i mean is there is there something where

00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:53.800
 we're we're either the applicants are not doing or city is not doing in order to to have the date

00:38:53.800 --> 00:39:01.080
 extensions be more in line with the actual amount of time it's taking does that make sense what i'm

00:39:01.080 --> 00:39:06.680
 asking it does unfortunately state law only allows for that extension to be up to 30 days it can't be

00:39:06.680 --> 00:39:12.200
 for more um so when we bring these to you we we calculate you know whether which pnz meetings are

00:39:12.200 --> 00:39:18.760
 within that that 30-day range okay most often it's it's just the next meeting um unfortunately

00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:24.360
 it's not always that full 30 days but okay well that's unfortunate thank you hailey

00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:33.480
 any other questions on this item great hailey you're up with uh fr 20-17

00:39:37.720 --> 00:39:43.800
 all right this is um a replat for a portion of razor ranch this is uh known as the razor cottages

00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:49.960
 that you all recently saw a site plan for um so this is a replat of of what was formerly a single

00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:56.120
 lot um it will now be for 37 uh cottage homes as we looked at with that zoning compliance plan as

00:39:56.120 --> 00:40:01.480
 well as um some common area lots that would include the amenity area as well as the streets

00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:05.720
 which will be private and maintained by the homeowner's side of the area so we're going to

00:40:05.720 --> 00:40:09.000
 look at all of those areas and we're going to look at all of those areas and we're going to look

00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:12.680
 at all of those areas and we're going to look at all of those areas and we're going to look at all

00:40:12.680 --> 00:40:15.800
 of those areas and we're going to look at all of those areas and we're going to look at all of

00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:20.280
 those areas and we're going to look at all of those areas and we're going to look at all of

00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:24.280
 those areas and we're going to look at all of those areas and we're going to look at all of

00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:28.200
 those areas and we're going to look at all of those areas and we're going to look at all of

00:40:28.200 --> 00:40:32.280
 those areas and we're going to look at all of those areas and we're going to look at all of

00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:41.240
 plat it's more um i guess a legal question of how how we're uh i guess approving an extension

00:40:41.240 --> 00:40:45.720
 are we saying to the date certain of the next meeting because i don't we don't want to say

00:40:45.720 --> 00:40:48.680
 granting a 30-day extension because we're really not doing that correct

00:40:48.680 --> 00:40:56.920
 correct my reading of it is we're granting the extension until the date certain

00:40:56.920 --> 00:41:11.160
 of of one six correct okay all right thank you uh hailey pp 20-0028 item e back to you

00:41:11.160 --> 00:41:19.000
 all right this is a preliminary plat uh for the denton extra edition number two the property is

00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:24.840
 located at the corner of jim crystal and western boulevard as you can see here on the map um this

00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:31.640
 this is for three industrial lots um two of them are intended to be developed with industrial uses

00:41:31.640 --> 00:41:36.360
 the third is a small lot that is currently developed with the gas well and is essentially

00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:39.640
 the boundaries of the approved gas well site plan for that portion of the property

00:41:39.640 --> 00:41:44.680
 again staff is recommending denial at this time because it does not meet all of the established

00:41:44.680 --> 00:41:49.640
 requirements as are outlined in exhibit two the applicant for this project has also requested

00:41:49.640 --> 00:41:56.680
 that extension to january 6th great any questions for hailey on this item

00:41:56.680 --> 00:42:04.200
 uh christner beck so as i recall one of the items and correct me hailey i think was

00:42:04.200 --> 00:42:13.000
 approval of the alt isa for this region am i am i misremembering my uh i should have made better

00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:19.800
 notes is that correct yes there as the plans are shown there will be a need for an alternative

00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:26.520
 isa on this project um there is a portion of the property down here um and on the southern side

00:42:26.520 --> 00:42:31.240
 along jim crystal where there is a stream channel that runs through um i believe it has been

00:42:31.240 --> 00:42:36.360
 determined to be undeveloped floodplain as well as riparian buffer um the applicant's still working

00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:40.520
 through their their site plan proposal um and as part of that staff's determining kind of what the

00:42:40.520 --> 00:42:45.400
 scope of that alt isa would need to be but that would be a future need for this property before

00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:51.240
 they could actually pursue that development so we would need to have that in place before

00:42:51.240 --> 00:42:57.240
 so i guess this is this goes back to sort of related to my earlier question can we can we

00:42:57.240 --> 00:43:04.840
 actually achieve this by january 6th if the if we have to chicken and egg this alt isa um the

00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:09.160
 the alternative isa plan the code doesn't specify where that occurs in the process they they have to

00:43:09.160 --> 00:43:15.960
 have that approved before they can move into any site development activity so typically um most

00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:19.240
 applicants i would say at least go through the zoning compliance plan make sure they know how

00:43:19.240 --> 00:43:23.640
 they want to lay out the site and what encroachments would actually be in the isa and then once they get

00:43:23.640 --> 00:43:28.360
 through preliminary platting before they go to the full step of of civil engineering plans and

00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:31.960
 things of that nature that are that fine grain detail and a little more expensive they would

00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:36.200
 work through that alternative isa to ensure they could get the necessary approvals for the development

00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:40.680
 but we don't have to have that we have to have that in place before building activities but not

00:43:40.680 --> 00:43:46.040
 before approval correct so the the preliminary plat typically just contains a note saying an

00:43:46.040 --> 00:43:50.520
 alternative isa is is required and if they don't get that then then they're subject to possibly

00:43:50.520 --> 00:43:54.280
 having to redo the preliminary plat okay that clarifies it thank you so much

00:43:54.280 --> 00:44:03.800
 any other questions on this item all right hayley we got one more fpp 20-0029 for you

00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:09.480
 all right so this is a preliminary plat that is for the woodlands on mckinney street edition

00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:15.240
 if you remember the the plat we previously looked at was for the manufactured home development that

00:44:15.240 --> 00:44:20.920
 would be just to the to the west of this property as part of that zoning and sup some of you may

00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:27.960
 recall there were were there was a requirement for six one acre lots to be developed along trinity for

00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:34.360
 single-family detached homes so this plat is is for that portion of the property these would be

00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:39.560
 those one acre single-family detached homes along trinity at this time again staff is recommending

00:44:39.560 --> 00:44:44.280
 denial due to the reasons outlined in exhibit two however the applicant has again requested

00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:50.520
 that extension to january 6th any questions for hayley on this item

00:44:55.000 --> 00:45:02.360
 okay seeing none i will invite julie for presentation for item g pp 20-0030

00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:15.880
 good evening let me share my screen

00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:29.160
 so this one um actually uh friday late this is uh

00:45:29.160 --> 00:45:44.280
 there we go okay so um this property is located just adjacent to university

00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:51.800
 near fulton street on the south side of university they are proposing to develop it with a retail

00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:58.360
 use which is consistent with the zoning um up until late friday it it um they hadn't addressed

00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:02.680
 all the comments but we do try to work with the applicant to get comments addressed before the

00:46:02.680 --> 00:46:06.520
 planning and zoning commission so they have addressed staff's comments and we do recommend

00:46:06.520 --> 00:46:11.960
 approval of the request and i'll be happy to answer any questions great thanks julie any questions

00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:22.760
 i do not see any thank you for the presentation i think the last three we're gonna have

00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:30.600
 mr ron manguida uh carry us home it's starting with item hfr 20-0016a

00:46:30.600 --> 00:46:39.320
 yes good evening can can y'all hear me we can awesome uh the first item that you're looking at

00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:46.920
 hopefully uh haley julie has it up on the screen it's for a final reply for a 64 lot residential

00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:55.240
 subdivision phase 1a of the eagle creek residential development staff is recommending approval

00:46:55.240 --> 00:47:02.680
 of this request um as of this afternoon they were able to address the comment that was outstanding

00:47:02.680 --> 00:47:06.600
 so again staff's recommending approval and i'll stand for any questions

00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:10.760
 any questions for ron on this item

00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:16.280
 commissioner alice thank you chair i guess just ron

00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:20.280
 did anything change from what was submitted in our backup

00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:28.200
 no uh the comment that was outstanding was their uh hoa documents uh that was something i was

00:47:28.200 --> 00:47:34.680
 pending so as far as the plat itself uh nothing has changed it was just confirming that the hoa

00:47:34.680 --> 00:47:42.360
 documents were up to the uh uh requirements that we we we have in the design code okay fantastic

00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:50.440
 thank you christian rebec and and i assume ron that you've been in touch with um kimley horn and

00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:55.960
 the uh and the applicant group through the since the last meeting when we extended this

00:47:55.960 --> 00:48:03.720
 or have you not been in touch with me they have no we we have okay thank you

00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:15.240
 yes any other questions for ron this item seeing none we'll go to item i fr 20-0019

00:48:15.240 --> 00:48:23.400
 continue with ron yes uh this is uh another phase of the eagle creek uh residential subdivision it

00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:33.160
 is phase 2a and this consists of 91 residential single-family lots as well as hoa lots part of

00:48:33.160 --> 00:48:40.280
 this phase similar to the first item or the item that i discussed earlier the comments that were

00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:46.040
 pending when the packets were sent out have been addressed and again as of this afternoon

00:48:46.040 --> 00:48:51.240
 the staff is recommending approval of this request and i'll stand for any questions

00:48:56.920 --> 00:49:04.600
 i do not see any questions on this item uh next we have item 4j pp 20-0027

00:49:04.600 --> 00:49:12.520
 all right this is the at the last of the items um for individual for consideration this is a

00:49:12.520 --> 00:49:18.600
 preliminary plaque for a development a multi-family development uh hopefully you'll remember this site

00:49:18.600 --> 00:49:26.520
 this is um a site that received a specific use permit uh to build approximately 149 dwelling units

00:49:26.520 --> 00:49:30.920
 again this is just the preliminary plaque now staff is recommending denial of this

00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:37.480
 preliminary plan primarily because of the section of the code that have not been complied with

00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:46.920
 by the applicant section 39a of the criteria manual table 7b of the development code as well

00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:52.920
 as section 753 in regards to general drainage requirements of development code are still pending

00:49:52.920 --> 00:50:00.920
 comments however the applicant has submitted a extension for the plumber plot and staff does

00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:08.760
 not have any opposition to the 30-day extension and ron uh it's not detailed in the agenda we're on

00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:15.000
 the slide but we'd be looking at the january 6th because of the 30-day cap yes yes sir uh it's

00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:21.640
 similar to the other um on plat applications they would be to a date certain of january 6th okay

00:50:21.640 --> 00:50:30.840
 perfect any commissioner beck so this is germaine to the question that jerry thank you chair uh to

00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:38.600
 the chip that the chair just put up is is this uh some of these delays uh or some of these lack

00:50:38.600 --> 00:50:45.800
 of synchronicity between the applicants and and planning with a 30 with 30 shot clock is that is

00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:56.440
 that some of that based on our bimonthly schedule would we alleviate um some of the disconnect if we

00:50:56.440 --> 00:51:07.320
 had a uh two-week schedule and and still be um uh i mean effectively a bimonthly is a two-week but

00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:14.680
 there's a little bit of fudge there and and would we would we be able to be more in sync with the

00:51:14.680 --> 00:51:20.040
 30-day shot clock and the extensions needed if we went to a every two-week schedule would that help

00:51:20.040 --> 00:51:29.640
 or or it's not going to make any difference i think that um we already have a bimonthly meeting

00:51:29.640 --> 00:51:35.080
 a schedule for png um i don't think it will i think there's some months will work and others

00:51:35.080 --> 00:51:42.680
 just happen to have an extra week in those situations those those do help but i i don't

00:51:42.680 --> 00:51:47.320
 think increasing the number of meetings would change it i think there are certain months that

00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:54.680
 work in certain months that do not okay well i was just trying to think of a way where instead of a

00:51:54.680 --> 00:51:59.800
 you know you can you could get a little finer alignment with some of these extensions but if

00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:04.680
 it's not going to help yeah uh christopher back i'm looking at january if we went to every other

00:52:04.680 --> 00:52:11.960
 um week we still couldn't get to the 20th um to that meeting date because of it being the 16th

00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:18.520
 today but yeah on the january 20 meeting we actually can push two meetings out uh we would

00:52:18.520 --> 00:52:24.440
 actually be able to realize you know 27 days and two different meetings so anything like delayed

00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:29.480
 on january 20th could be pushed all the way to february 17th um so i think to to ron's

00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:36.200
 point it's just a matter of how the calendar falls okay yeah this is it was just a you know

00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:42.440
 being tied to the bi-monthly thing i was wondering if that wasn't constraining us

00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:49.080
 unnecessarily but i mean if it's six of one half dozen of the other then then okay i think the

00:52:49.080 --> 00:52:55.080
 only solution that uh because sir beck's proposing is we meet weekly um and so no as the term limited

00:52:55.080 --> 00:53:02.680
 chair i'm all ford guys i'll support that for y'all for your legislature to change the bill

00:53:03.320 --> 00:53:11.640
 coming sessions uh with that uh that concludes our agenda for this evening uh so the work session i

00:53:11.640 --> 00:53:20.360
 will close at 5 54 uh we'll meet back here in this zoom account at 6 30 for the regular meeting thank

00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:31.960
 you good evening ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the regular meeting for planning and zoning

00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:36.840
 commission for wednesday december 16th 2020 seeing that we have a quorum i will call this meeting to

00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:45.640
 order at 6 31 the first item on the agenda is to provide a pledge of allegiance to the us and texas

00:53:45.640 --> 00:53:54.360
 flag uh if the commissioners want to join me you can unmute yourself i pledge allegiance to the

00:53:54.360 --> 00:54:01.880
 flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god

00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:05.400
 indivisible with liberty and justice for all

00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:16.280
 honor the texas flag i pledge allegiance to the texas one state under god one and indivisible

00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:22.600
 excited businesses to consider approval for the plane and zoning minutes from december 2nd

00:54:22.600 --> 00:54:27.320
 commissioner smith make a motion to approve you got a first commissioner alice

00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:31.000
 second we have a first and a second for approval any discussion

00:54:32.200 --> 00:54:36.200
 seeing none i'll call for a vote via roll call uh start with commissioner beck

00:54:36.200 --> 00:54:42.920
 aye commissioner alice aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson

00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:50.120
 aye commissioner pernetta aye commissioner smith why chairs also an aye motion carries

00:54:50.120 --> 00:54:56.520
 seven zero the next item is our consent agenda there's three items three a b and c

00:54:58.200 --> 00:55:03.880
 here i'll entertain a motion commissioner alice i move approval we have a first for approval

00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:08.680
 commissioner smith we have first and second for approval any discussion on these items

00:55:08.680 --> 00:55:13.000
 seeing nine i'll call for a vote via roll call commissioner beck

00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:22.120
 aye commissioner alice aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson aye commissioner pernetta

00:55:22.120 --> 00:55:31.000
 aye commissioner smith aye motion carries seven zero the next item of business is the individual

00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:38.520
 items for consideration we'll start with 4a pp 20-0026b and i'll invite kareena maldenato for

00:55:38.520 --> 00:55:47.800
 presentation good evening kareena maldenato assistant planner um the request before you is

00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:57.480
 for pp-0026 this is a preliminary plat of the 100 north loop 288 edition for approximately 19.49

00:55:57.480 --> 00:56:05.480
 acres for six commercial lots located on the east side of loop 288 staff is recommending denial of

00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:11.080
 this request as they still have not addressed a few engineering comments related to easement

00:56:11.080 --> 00:56:18.280
 dedications uh driveway spacing drainage calculations and tree preservation um the applicant

00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:25.400
 has already used their 30-day extension request and so um for this reason staff is recommending

00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:29.880
 denial and i can answer any questions you have and i believe the applicant is also on

00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:35.720
 the call great any questions for kareena or the applicant on this item

00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:42.360
 charles certainly entertaining discussion or emotion commissioner smith

00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:49.240
 making a motion to deny we have a first commissioner pernetta a second we have a first

00:56:49.240 --> 00:56:57.480
 and a second any discussion we have first and a second for uh denial an aye vote and favor would

00:56:57.480 --> 00:57:03.480
 be to to deny just as a reminder we'll take a vote via roll call beginning with commissioner beck

00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:12.120
 aye commissioner ellis aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson aye christian pernetta

00:57:12.120 --> 00:57:19.320
 aye commissioner smith aye chair is also an aye motion carries seven zero next item of business

00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:26.600
 is item 4b fp 20-0025 i'll invite hayley zagorski for presentation

00:57:32.200 --> 00:57:37.160
 good evening this is item fp 20-25 this is the final plan for the woodmere edition

00:57:37.160 --> 00:57:41.240
 the property as you can see on the map is located on the north side of ryan road

00:57:41.240 --> 00:57:46.200
 at this time staff is recommending denial of the plat they have already

00:57:46.200 --> 00:57:51.800
 utilized their one opportunity for extension and there is still an outstanding comment regarding

00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:56.360
 conservation easements that are required to be accepted by the city so staff is recommending

00:57:56.360 --> 00:58:01.240
 denial for all the reasons that are discussed in exhibit two i'm happy to stand for any questions

00:58:02.600 --> 00:58:04.280
 is there any questions for hayley on this item

00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:13.960
 christian or beck no i i don't have questions i was going to make a motion go for it i make a

00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:21.800
 motion to deny on the grounds that staff uh represented thank you i mean for the reason

00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:28.760
 staff specified great christian or cole second we have a first and a second for denial any discussion

00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:33.880
 seeing none i call for a vote via roll call commissioner beck

00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:42.520
 aye commissioner alice aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson aye commissioner pernetta

00:58:42.520 --> 00:58:49.080
 aye commissioner smith aye chair is also an aye motion carries uh seven zero

00:58:49.080 --> 00:58:53.160
 next item of business is also hayley with fp 20-0027

00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:03.080
 all right good evening this is the final plat for the woodlands edition the property is located

00:59:03.080 --> 00:59:07.720
 on the north side of mckinney and the east side of trinity road at this time staff is recommending

00:59:07.720 --> 00:59:12.200
 denial as the plat does not meet all of the established requirements as outlined in exhibit

00:59:12.200 --> 00:59:18.040
 two however the applicant has requested extension to january 6th and staff has no objections to this

00:59:18.040 --> 00:59:21.480
 we'll stand for any questions is there any questions for hayley on this item

00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:30.040
 commissioner anderson i'll make a motion to approve uh to the extension to date certain of january 6th

00:59:30.040 --> 00:59:36.520
 great we have a first commissioner pernetta i'll second we have a first and a second for the

00:59:36.520 --> 00:59:43.880
 approval of the extension of 30-day request to a date certain of january 6th 2021 any discussion

00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:48.760
 seeing none i'll call for a vote via roll call commissioner beck

00:59:49.800 --> 00:59:57.720
 aye commissioner ellis aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson aye commissioner pernetta

00:59:57.720 --> 01:00:05.800
 aye commissioner smith aye chair is also an aye motion carries seven zero next item is item dfr

01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:11.320
 20-11 uh no 0017 this is also hayley's item

01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:19.400
 all right good evening this is a final replant for the razor cottages edition

01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:23.320
 the property is located on the west side of bonnie ray between linden and crescent streets

01:00:23.320 --> 01:00:28.280
 at this time staff is recommending denial as it does not meet all of the established requirements

01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:33.480
 outlined in exhibit two and again the applicant has requested an extension to january 6th and

01:00:33.480 --> 01:00:38.760
 staff has no objections to that request great thank you any questions for hayley on this item

01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:45.480
 sure entertain any discussion or motion

01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:56.520
 commissioner beck i make a motion to extend to january 6 2021 we have a first commissioner smith

01:00:56.520 --> 01:01:02.600
 yeah we have first and a second to approve the applicant's request for a 30-day extension

01:01:02.600 --> 01:01:06.360
 to the date certain of january 6 2021 any discussion

01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:11.960
 seeing none i'll call for a vote via roll call commissioner beck

01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:21.480
 aye commissioner ellis aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson aye commissioner pernetta

01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:30.280
 aye commissioner smith aye chair is also an aye motion carries seven zero next item is also

01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:41.240
 hayley's with item e pp 20-28 good evening this is the final plant for the denton exeter edition

01:01:41.240 --> 01:01:47.480
 number two this is a platform for three industrial lots staff is recommending denial of this request

01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:51.240
 as it does not meet the established requirements that are outlined in exhibit two of your backup

01:01:51.240 --> 01:01:56.520
 again the applicant has requested that extension would be to a date certain of january 6th

01:01:56.520 --> 01:02:01.160
 and staff has no objections to that great any questions for hayley

01:02:03.240 --> 01:02:11.160
 seeing none we can take more discussion or a motion commissioner smith i make a motion to uh

01:02:11.160 --> 01:02:20.840
 sorry what should uh sorry go ahead i'll pass my motion commissioner alice i make a motion to

01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:28.120
 approve the applicant's extension to date certain of january 6th great we have a first commissioner

01:02:28.120 --> 01:02:34.040
 anderson uh second the motion we have first and second to approve the applicant's request

01:02:34.040 --> 01:02:39.000
 for an extension of 30 days uh to date certain of january 6th any discussion

01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:43.480
 seeing none i'll call for a vote via roll call commissioner beck

01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:52.760
 aye commissioner alice aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson aye commissioner pernetta

01:02:52.760 --> 01:03:01.000
 aye commissioner smith aye chair is also an aye motion carries seven zero next item is also

01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:09.080
 hayley's it's item 4 fpp 20-0029 all right good evening again this is a preliminary plat request

01:03:09.080 --> 01:03:14.440
 for the woodlands on mckinney street edition the plat is for six uh one acre residential lots

01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:20.280
 located on the west side of trinity road um again staff is recommending denial as it does not yet

01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:24.520
 meet all of the established requirements that are outlined in exhibit 2 of your backup again the

01:03:24.520 --> 01:03:31.320
 applicant has requested that extension to january 6 of 2021 i will stand for any questions thanks

01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:40.280
 hayley any questions okay chair will entertain a motion or discussion commissioner smith let's

01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:46.120
 try it again i'll take them make a motion to approve the extension to date certain of january

01:03:46.120 --> 01:03:53.800
 6 awesome we have a first on the table commissioner ellis second we have first and a second for uh an

01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:59.000
 approval of the applicant's request of 30 days to date certain of january 6th is there any discussion

01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:03.960
 on this item scene nine i'll call for a vote via roll call starting with commissioner beck

01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:13.880
 aye commissioner ellis aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson aye commissioner pernetta

01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:21.320
 aye commissioner smith aye chairs also an aye motion carries seven zero the next item is item

01:04:21.320 --> 01:04:32.760
 4g pp 20-0030 and this is julie wyatt's uh item good evening let me share my screen

01:04:44.120 --> 01:04:51.480
 this preliminary plat before you is to facilitate the development of a retail use along university

01:04:51.480 --> 01:04:57.000
 drive um uh it does meet all of the established requirements and therefore staff recommends

01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:02.760
 approval of this preliminary plat and i'll be happy to answer any questions thanks julie is there

01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:10.280
 any questions for julie on this item seeing none the chair will entertain a motion christopher

01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:15.960
 seeing none the chair will entertain a motion christopher anderson i motion to approve

01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:21.880
 we have a first for approval commissioner pernetta i'll second we have a first and a

01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:29.800
 second for approval any discussion scene nine i'll call for a uh vote via roll call commissioner beck

01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:40.440
 aye commissioner ellis aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson aye commissioner pernetta

01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:48.440
 um getting a thumbs up and support commissioner pernetta is an aye there you go commissioner

01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:56.760
 smith aye chair is also an aye uh motion carries seven zero next item is item 4h

01:05:57.800 --> 01:06:04.200
 this item is ron venguidas uh it's fr 20-0016 i believe ron is calling in for this item

01:06:04.200 --> 01:06:12.840
 yes good evening everyone um this particular plat application is for a final replat for a

01:06:12.840 --> 01:06:19.960
 phase 1a for of the eagle creek residential subdivision um staff has reviewed this application

01:06:19.960 --> 01:06:24.840
 and is recommending approval as it meets the established approval criteria for final replats

01:06:24.840 --> 01:06:30.680
 as outlined in the den development code i'll stand for any questions great thanks ron um we

01:06:30.680 --> 01:06:37.000
 actually have an individual who has elected to call in and provide his perspective or her perspective

01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:53.000
 on this matter so what i'd like to do is ask staff to bring the caller on

01:06:55.480 --> 01:07:04.680
 uh good evening you are with the planning zoning commission uh appreciate you calling in if you

01:07:04.680 --> 01:07:11.000
 just state your name and your address you'll have four minutes to speak hi this is eric pruett

01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:19.640
 21 11 21 11 westwood drive um so i understand this is a plat and and you should approve it

01:07:19.640 --> 01:07:26.440
 in my opinion it's i'm not against the plat um but it is in my backyard uh metaphorically

01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:33.720
 less than a quarter mile away and i i wanted to express a couple things that i see on how these

01:07:33.720 --> 01:07:39.640
 subdivisions are being laid out uh given the constraints of our development code i see that

01:07:39.640 --> 01:07:45.480
 uh if you look at it where highland park and parvin street kind of intersect those are both

01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:53.160
 designated collector streets um or collector roadways on the mobility plan and uh what i see

01:07:53.160 --> 01:08:01.240
 is that the the residential lots are pushed away from those streets and the the buffer if you will

01:08:01.240 --> 01:08:07.640
 between the street and the lots is used as open space uh to to satisfy the open space requirements

01:08:07.640 --> 01:08:15.000
 um i i don't really see a lot of you know six and ten year olds being told to go play right

01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:21.880
 next to the street like that um i think when you have wide areas next to the street like that that

01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:26.200
 that looks really open it tends to encourage more speeding which we're seeing in a lot of our

01:08:26.200 --> 01:08:38.200
 neighborhoods um and and it also tends to uh not um capitalize on the the infrastructure that we have

01:08:38.200 --> 01:08:43.480
 there with those collector roadways you know in many of our neighborhoods we do have uh small

01:08:43.480 --> 01:08:49.800
 businesses you know not large things but small businesses on collector roadways and uh and what

01:08:49.800 --> 01:08:59.080
 we have here is an area that is zoned r4 um in a very large swath and so it's easier for uh

01:08:59.080 --> 01:09:04.360
 developers to just come in and say okay we will build what's permitted in r4 and they they don't

01:09:04.360 --> 01:09:10.200
 want to come in and request uh small zoning changes for small lots that they want to plat

01:09:10.200 --> 01:09:16.440
 because it's a lot of trouble and it's not a lot of benefit to them uh monetarily but it could be

01:09:16.440 --> 01:09:22.600
 a a large benefit to the communities involved if they have some small shops within their community

01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:29.960
 so so those are my thoughts i hope that you'll consider them uh not necessarily as as you vote

01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:34.840
 for this or against it but as you look toward how dentin is developing in the future

01:09:37.560 --> 01:09:40.440
 i appreciate you calling in mr prude we have a question for you commissioner beck

01:09:40.440 --> 01:09:47.480
 yeah thank you chair um mr prude so what would you what would your approach be how would you like to

01:09:47.480 --> 01:09:56.120
 see future items like this remedied well i i guess i wonder i don't have the experience uh or the

01:09:56.120 --> 01:10:03.400
 knowledge to know what would be effective but i wonder what an effective method would be to uh let

01:10:03.960 --> 01:10:10.520
 developers know that even though they have a parcel that's zoned all residential that uh if

01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:17.720
 it is the will of the council and the commission to uh to allow some neighborhood retail maybe

01:10:17.720 --> 01:10:23.880
 zone a few parcels r7 so that they can go toward that in the future uh that that's something the

01:10:23.880 --> 01:10:28.760
 city would like to see and you know there's no guarantee that uh that that it would start

01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:34.600
 happening but at least you could offer it up front um and and see where it goes from there so would

01:10:34.600 --> 01:10:43.080
 you like to see hypothetically um a fringe included with every designation something like a a buffer or

01:10:43.080 --> 01:10:52.280
 girdle where it was say r4 r7 on the edge and r4 on the interior i think that's highly context

01:10:52.280 --> 01:10:57.080
 sensitive right to the area sometimes it might make sense to have it on the edge sometimes it

01:10:57.080 --> 01:11:02.760
 might make sense to have a little neighborhood center um with you know a flower shop and a cafe

01:11:02.760 --> 01:11:07.560
 and and a coffee shop or something right it really just depends on the area so i don't

01:11:07.560 --> 01:11:16.120
 think there's a one-size-fits-all solution thank you any other questions for mr prudet

01:11:16.120 --> 01:11:22.520
 i don't see any but i appreciate you hanging on with us tonight and calling in thank you very much

01:11:23.960 --> 01:11:28.120
 thank you was there any other discussion or a motion to be had on this item

01:11:28.120 --> 01:11:33.240
 commissioner alice

01:11:33.240 --> 01:11:39.720
 we have a first for approval commissioner cole

01:11:39.720 --> 01:11:45.880
 perfect we have a first and a second for approval any discussion on the item

01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:50.680
 seeing none i'll call for a vote via roll call starting with commissioner beck

01:11:51.800 --> 01:11:57.160
 aye commissioner alice aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson

01:11:57.160 --> 01:12:01.640
 aye commissioner prunetta aye commissioner smith

01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:09.560
 aye chair is also an aye motion carries seven zero the next item is for ifr 20-0019

01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:16.600
 this is also ron's item take the floor when you're ready yes um again good evening this is a final

01:12:16.600 --> 01:12:23.880
 replied application for a property in the same vicinity it is phase 2a of the eagle creek

01:12:23.880 --> 01:12:32.120
 residential subdivision it is proposed for 92 lots single family residential and as staffs

01:12:32.120 --> 01:12:38.760
 recommending approval as it meets the criteria for final replats outlined in the dentin development

01:12:38.760 --> 01:12:47.720
 code i'll stand for any questions any questions for ron commissioner beck sorry i was in the wrong

01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:56.760
 window uh thank you chair so wait um this i think i've gotten my items confused this this now meets

01:12:56.760 --> 01:13:04.280
 approval is is is that the one you is that what you're saying yes um as of this afternoon i know

01:13:04.280 --> 01:13:09.000
 your backup says it's recommendation for denial however as of this afternoon the applicant was

01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:15.080
 able to address the comment that was the remaining outstanding comment for this final reflect okay

01:13:15.080 --> 01:13:17.800
 thank you ron any other questions for ron

01:13:17.800 --> 01:13:25.000
 all right seeing none chair will entertain any discussion or a motion commissioner smith

01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:30.040
 about your new proof we have first for approval commissioner anderson

01:13:31.320 --> 01:13:36.760
 uh second the motion we have a first and a second for approval any discussion

01:13:36.760 --> 01:13:41.640
 seeing none i call for a vote via roll call starting with commissioner beck

01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:50.200
 aye commissioner ellis aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson aye commissioner prunetta

01:13:50.200 --> 01:13:57.880
 aye commissioner smith aye chair is also an aye motion carries seven zero the last item for

01:13:57.880 --> 01:14:07.720
 individual considerations is item 4j pp 20-0027 and ron will be presenting this one thank you chair

01:14:07.720 --> 01:14:13.560
 this is a preliminary application for property located southwest of mingo and mockingbird

01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:21.240
 for for you all you probably remember this particular site this site received a specific

01:14:21.240 --> 01:14:26.680
 use permit to allow for a multifamily development the plenary plat is the next step in the development

01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:32.760
 process through the review of this plenary plat staff is recommending denial as it does not

01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:42.200
 currently meet the criteria for plenary plat for approvals as specifically section 3.9a as well as

01:14:42.200 --> 01:14:49.640
 table 7b and section 753 of the intensive development code however staff has no opposition

01:14:49.640 --> 01:14:56.920
 of their request to extend the 30-day extension to a date certain of january 6 and i'll stand for any

01:14:56.920 --> 01:15:03.960
 questions great thank you any questions for ron seeing none charlotte entertain the motion the

01:15:03.960 --> 01:15:11.960
 discussion commissioner ellis approval of the applicant's request for an extension to a date

01:15:11.960 --> 01:15:17.640
 certain of january 6th great we have a first commissioner beck i'll second that we have first

01:15:17.640 --> 01:15:22.440
 and a second for approval of the applicant's request for 30 days extension which pushes it to

01:15:22.440 --> 01:15:29.080
 the date certain of january 6th any discussion seeing none i'll call for a vote via roll call

01:15:29.080 --> 01:15:35.960
 starting with commissioner beck aye commissioner ellis aye commissioner cole aye commissioner

01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:42.440
 anderson aye commissioner pernetta aye commissioner smith aye chair is also an

01:15:42.440 --> 01:15:48.520
 aye motion carries seven zero that concludes our working agenda for this evening the concluding

01:15:48.520 --> 01:15:54.200
 item is the planning zoning commission project matrix as always i'll turn it over to richard

01:15:54.200 --> 01:16:01.400
 for any updates and it's the day is for discussion sure thank you um just briefly i really have no

01:16:01.400 --> 01:16:09.720
 updates on um on the matrix or the council action we just haven't had any although i didn't hit my

01:16:09.720 --> 01:16:15.720
 goal of not having any items the last meeting in january i'm sorry the last meeting in december on

01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:20.920
 the matrix but we have a couple carryover items so i'm trying to get those whittled down we will

01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:28.040
 be back in january with at our second meeting regarding the alt isa and then once um our dcrc

01:16:28.040 --> 01:16:34.040
 gets um some new members and get that reconstituted we'll be back uh we'll talk about the other items

01:16:34.040 --> 01:16:40.440
 that that are on that list but that's all of happy holidays and happy new year awesome thanks richard

01:16:40.440 --> 01:16:46.040
 any items that anyone wants to slap on the matrix commissioner beck no i just have a follow-up

01:16:46.040 --> 01:16:54.760
 question on uh for richard on the uh dcrc uh do you have an eta for how long now that we've uh

01:16:54.760 --> 01:17:02.520
 got new council members it will take to reconstitute the dcrc there's an item being uh prepared for

01:17:03.080 --> 01:17:09.960
 january meeting um with respect to appointments for boards council has a meeting where they have

01:17:09.960 --> 01:17:15.240
 discussed all appointments for boards council committees um and so at that point in time that

01:17:15.240 --> 01:17:21.640
 would that ordinance would be brought up to be amended um to uh to nominate those those individuals

01:17:21.640 --> 01:17:28.920
 that went off all right thank you commissioner ellis thank you chair first of all richard i

01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:34.680
 think you've done a great job whittling down the matrix because i thank you certainly certainly

01:17:34.680 --> 01:17:41.640
 long when you when you began um one thing i'd like to add either to it maybe it needs a work

01:17:41.640 --> 01:17:47.160
 session anyway we always have a lot of questions it seems regarding fees and when they're imposed

01:17:47.160 --> 01:17:52.440
 when they're not what they are is can we have maybe a bit of a discussion on that just kind of

01:17:53.160 --> 01:17:59.560
 you know high level overview of that absolutely what i'll have um i'll have charlie rosenthal who

01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:04.440
 i think you've you've met before i'll have him um come and give a presentation an overview of

01:18:04.440 --> 01:18:11.480
 how our fee structure works um including the matrix study that we did that that really looked at

01:18:11.480 --> 01:18:16.440
 um you know that it paid for itself essentially development pay for itself and and those fees

01:18:16.440 --> 01:18:23.320
 be paid um through what the actual time that staff takes to review it and so i'll have him give that

01:18:23.320 --> 01:18:29.000
 overview um how that works i don't know if we'll get too far into the impact fee but at least give

01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:35.160
 a little bit a bit of a discussion in when and how that's assessed um obviously those are being

01:18:35.160 --> 01:18:41.400
 being looked at now um but but we'll include that through both the planning and zoning stage um all

01:18:41.400 --> 01:18:46.920
 the way through building building permits just to give a snapshot yeah that'd be great thank you um

01:18:46.920 --> 01:18:52.680
 and happy holidays to everybody too uh commissioner cole you have something or you just waving at

01:18:52.680 --> 01:19:00.120
 commissioner alice just waving he says just waving just waving um uh commissioner smith you waving or

01:19:00.120 --> 01:19:05.960
 you have something i actually have something uh what richard what's the latest update on the

01:19:05.960 --> 01:19:14.520
 um the fiscal impact analysis rfp those so now uh we have an agenda item uh tomorrow um for uh to

01:19:14.520 --> 01:19:21.240
 enter into a contract with uh ae com for that um to complete that to complete that study and then

01:19:21.240 --> 01:19:27.480
 build build that model that would be used so that's on on consent on tomorrow's uh tomorrow's council

01:19:27.480 --> 01:19:33.320
 agenda what's the uh what's the rough timeline for when that would come forward you think or how long

01:19:33.320 --> 01:19:38.360
 you think that'll take i want to say we had about six six months lead time all the way you know from

01:19:38.360 --> 01:19:42.840
 from start start to finish um i mean there's there's going to be some testing that they'll have to do

01:19:42.840 --> 01:19:48.680
 and one thing we liked is that you know it's not that they're pulling a canned model that they have

01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:54.280
 so it'll take some time to build it um specific to denton um but their overall timeline i think was

01:19:54.280 --> 01:20:00.920
 about six months okay and then um if uh let's say it's six months let's just call it you know

01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:06.280
 january to through june and we'll give it till july 1st if it was saying everything's done it's

01:20:06.280 --> 01:20:14.760
 good to go july 1st uh projects would be subject to that based on when they're submitted or be

01:20:14.760 --> 01:20:21.480
 projects are um or they they have to go through that model based off of what stage of the process

01:20:21.480 --> 01:20:27.480
 they're on uh that's kind of an arbitrary question but yeah we would probably look at all all projects

01:20:27.480 --> 01:20:34.440
 um there is there is that um review criteria um but again it's it's and i think it's important

01:20:34.440 --> 01:20:40.040
 for everyone to understand it it's not it's not just the only criteria and so if if it shows that

01:20:40.040 --> 01:20:45.320
 it it's going to be negative i don't know that that's necessarily a reason to deny a project um

01:20:45.320 --> 01:20:52.120
 if it's you know if you look at a an affordable housing project that might be um a non-profit

01:20:52.120 --> 01:20:57.080
 that's developing it obviously there would be no tax generated by that um and so i don't think

01:20:57.080 --> 01:21:03.720
 that's a reason to deny it obviously it's providing um you know a valuable a valuable um asset for the

01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:09.240
 city for on the affordability side and so i think it's just one of those it's again it's one of many

01:21:09.240 --> 01:21:13.960
 criteria that we have um but at least i think we'll have a better tool to look at it both

01:21:13.960 --> 01:21:21.720
 um on the short term and long term okay what's 659 so i'll stop talking that i got i got several

01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:27.000
 minutes in me actually i got i got many things to add uh to this matrix uh let me let me pull out my

01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:35.240
 notes here uh is there anything else to add to the matrix well i just want to say uh 2020 was one

01:21:35.240 --> 01:21:41.480
 hell of a year uh and i appreciate city staff uh doing an incredible job getting us on zoom and

01:21:41.480 --> 01:21:47.000
 preparing us and helping me out uh here in this office and actually making the city continue to

01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:53.000
 run smooth so uh great job to the city and to the commissioners for for seeing this year through

01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:58.840
 hopefully 2021 is more normal uh but Merry Christmas everyone uh with that i will close

01:21:58.840 --> 01:22:03.720
 the meeting at seven o'clock Merry Christmas thanks Merry Christmas everybody