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 Good evening ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the planning and zoning commission work

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 session meeting for Wednesday December 16th 2020.

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 Seeing that we do have a quorum I will call the meeting to order at 5.01.

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 Let the record show at this time Commissioner Anderson and Commissioner Pernetta are not

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 present.

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 With that I don't have any public comment for the consent agenda so we can hop into

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 item number two for the work session which is work session reports.

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 We just have one this evening hold a discussion regarding the overview of online GIS maps

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 and so I'll turn it over staff for presentation and also note that Commissioner Anderson has

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 joined us or is joining now.

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 We ready for the map overview Cody it is all you all right well good evening

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 everybody today I'm going to be going over three different interactive maps that we have

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 online I'm going to go ahead and share my screen.

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 Does everyone know Cody maybe maybe Cody if you can maybe just introduce yourself a little

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 bit.

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 Yeah I'm Cody Yates I'm GIS analyst for development services been making maps here for about five

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 years or so so also commonly known as the wizard thank you Richard can everybody see

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 my screen that I got pulled up yes we can all right so I'm going to be going over three

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 maps today our active projects map our weekly project submissions map and our interactive

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 map the quickest way you can get here from our website is you go up to governments and

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 then go down through the open government and click maps you'll get pulled up to our GIS

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 map section here so first one I want to go over is our active projects map and pull that

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 one up so when you pull that up you're going to see a whole lot of colors and if you click

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 down here there is a legend you pulled up and it'll tell you what all these different

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 colors are so they got different representations we got the rezoning specific use permits variances

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 all different types of projects color coded in here and at the bottom you'll notice that

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 we have a big table it's first loaded up the rezoning so you can click each individual

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 tab here and it'll pull up each different type of project so if you were to click on

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 any of these project polygon boundaries it'll pull up the project ID project name the case

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 manager for that project and its current status this one was approved with conditions and

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 over on him on the left we had the layer list which is similar to the legend but I'll let

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 you check off and on different layers in case you were just cared about a particular one

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 and if you were to scroll down on this list say we go to a specific use permits check

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 out s28 legacy multifamily already double click that it would then zoom right into that project

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 and you can see its project boundary where it's located all the information for it you

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 can do the reverse by clicking on a project and clicking zoom to in the bottom left corner

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 does the same and if you don't care for the topography we got in the background you can

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 go down to base map here and click on any of these different background maps that we

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 have available and there's a see imagery hybrid one I could zoom in and then see the the background

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 for that project we also have a measure tool it's pretty basic you can measure acreage

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 area check your units or also just a distance and then there is also the print tool so you

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 could if you zoom into a particular area the map of the project boundaries you can then

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 print it out to a PDF or just print straight to the printer and then we have the select

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 tool it's by default is going to be selecting everything but let's say you just want to

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 select rezoning so you can check off all these zoom out a little bit click the select tool

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 and then drag and it will create a box and highlights all of those rezonings in there

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 and I'll tell you these highlighted seven of them if you were to click on that it'll

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 show all seven that you've selected and then you can click on one get that information

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 popped up you go to the rezoning tab and everyone that you've selected is now highlighted in

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 blue here so that's pretty handy okay it looks like a question from Commissioner Smith yeah

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 go ahead new chair hey Cody can you go back to do the measurement again yeah let me pull

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 that up so we got the measure tool down here let me zoom down into one let me get our topography

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 map back on a little easier to see what's going on here and I'm gonna clear the selection

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 so we got these three projects or four projects here I can do the miles I'll just set it down

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 to feet now click on a point here it doesn't does it does it do anchorage yes if the first

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 one is the area and the second one is just the distance so if you do the first one you

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 can do acreage here square feet whatever unit you want and you just click on a point click

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 again and then you just keep clicking and so you've got whatever boundary you want set

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 and then double click when you're finished and it tells you the total acreage got you

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 yeah there's been a couple times where we've looked at projects where it's been like how

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 far away is it from xyz where is where is this and this would be a good tool thank you

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 appreciate it yeah it's pretty handy and the measure tool works very similarly you just

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 click click again to end it or if you want to make multiple measurements just click once

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 and then double click when you're done and has a lot for you got it and does it only

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 do a straight line yes it only does in straight lines so getting curves might be a little

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 tricky but you can just keep clicking individually and you can zoom in to get more accurate measurements

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 gotcha gotcha gotcha okay understood all right uh thanks yeah no problem and over on the

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 left here we have a home button which if you press press we'll go back to the main zoom

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 out area there's a location button that should zoom into your location the zoom in and out

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 if you don't want to use a mouse tool this should also work on mobile so if you ever

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 pull it up on your uh your mobile phone you can do all the same just straight from it

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 and we have the address bar up here so you can type in an address zoom straight to that

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 and then we have approved projects and denied projects listed down here tells the status

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 of them and then hey cody i think we lost you

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 cody we can see your screen uh but no audio is coming through

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 can you guys hear me yes we can uh seems my webcam may have been uh bugging out sorry

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 about that uh we lost you right when you clicked in the city council districts okay uh so city

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 council districts if you load up that tab um you can see all the districts on here and

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 you can click on one and zoom straight to that one and if you pull up the legend like

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 it did here and scroll down to the bottom it shows you what the colors of those districts

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 uh represent so i think that's um pretty much everything uh except for the options here

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 on the table you could if you wanted to export this whole table into uh csv so you can have

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 it in an excel spreadsheet if you want so that's pretty handy do we have any particular

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 questions over this map uh yes christner beck yes thank you chair cody uh on the uh export

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 to csv uh do we have other options is it just csv we don't have jason i think it's just

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 csv but you should be able to load that up into an excel format and uh then convert it

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 into any other excel format right and then my second question is um a second ago you

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 uh can can you dump just the the highlighted selection when you on the table oh you mean

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 if you select the certain one and then export just that one yes can you do that i believe

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 you can so in the table here if you have it um on the left side there's these kind of

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 gray buttons you can do it the same way there and if you click and drag um actually it doesn't

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 work like that you can click one at a time here but um let's see i have all these selected

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 right now i'm gonna let's just select one for now we're gonna go to this one we have

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 it selected you go export and i'm gonna open that one up and we have that one product can

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 you see this right here can't i'm sorry i'm gonna get popped up in a different screen

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 but i can confirm it does select that one that you had selected export it out so i guess

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 my question is if you have the seven it it's not going to force me to go back and click

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 them one at a time it's going to export the seven i don't believe it would but let me

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 see if i can test that for you real quick i'm gonna select two different ones here so

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 we got seven selected in the rezoning export this out and yes it does also awesome thank

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 you cody whatever which ones that you have selected it'll export just those out now do

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 note that that would just be for if you were doing one type you may have to go in to each

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 individual if you want to rezoning and specific use permits and export them separately any

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 other questions for cody on this map i don't see any cody okay all right well i'm going

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 to move on to the next one here that is our weekly submission list projects it's very

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 similar it's just a very toned down map version of the other one this has only the projects

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 that were submitted like this week and it's a from a list compiled by our planning techs

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 so you can see here there is only eight records currently on this map and next week it'll

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 be around seven or eight different records it's very very similar to the other one it

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 does have a little different information so we have the contact email contact number for

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 the project managers listed on here the acreage current zoning lot counts if you were to click

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 on this all that information pops up there you have over on the top right the legend

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 the layer list

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 and other than that it's it's the same kind of format you can export these as well it's

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 just a much simpler looking map that has just the this week's projects any questions for

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 cody on the weekly submission list map sure if i'm if i may just add i don't know if you

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 notice the difference some of the older projects just may have had the project name some it

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 may have included the planner i think if you see as you can see here you'll see what the

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 acreage current zoning trying to get a lot more information as we continually to upgrade

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 this so it has whoever the applicant is the project manager which is either one of the

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 facilitators in some instances would be a planning staff member as well as their telephone

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 number and email that way if somebody did have a specific question on a project they

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 know who's in charge of that project and they could reach out to them directly

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 christian are back thank you uh cody or richard when you do a district selection and you get

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 all the uh the uh active or weekly projects in a district um is there a similar tool for

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 e t j is there is there a tab out for e t j or you have to select all and then unselect

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 districts how would you get the e t j is what i'm asking for are you talking about the just

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 the boundaries for the e t j i'm not sure i fall projects in the e t j oh projects in

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 the e t j um well i'm pulling back on the previous map here so we do have some previous

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 projects that were in the e t j uh they just wouldn't be listed under that particular council

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 district yeah on the weekly it might even be easier to just sort because there wouldn't

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 be a zoning district assigned to it

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 yeah no i i guess the district thing was a little bit of a red herring the the question

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 was more if i wanted to see the projects in the e t j there's not a specific tab for those

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 oh just specifically just filter out the ones in the e t j i'm currently no i don't believe

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 so but um if that's something you guys are interested in we could probably work to add

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 them it's not something i'm requesting at the moment uh i was just curious if it was

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 already built in not not at the moment

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 so if you were to look on here and see that it's not one of these districts that would

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 and then to just point before we call them over current zoning if you just sorted by

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 that it'd be blank if it was e t j

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 zoning would be blank would it well we wouldn't have a city zoning that's true we wouldn't

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 have a designation would we it doesn't look like any of these weekly projects are in e

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 t j though so there's they're all they all have a population i feel

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 any other questions for the weekly submission map

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 awesome two down all right and go on to the interacting map now this one uh you may have

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 seen before it's an entirely different beast it's got uh tons of different layers they

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 all over here on the right side um so let me go through something so this one here the

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 fourth one down projects turn that on it looks very similar because it's the same projects

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 that are over on our active projects map just in this format of the map uh you can do pretty

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 similar things um with this um the main tool you're going to want to use on this map though

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 is this um identify tool it's down here with a little i click on that and then click on

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 any uh project or parcel it will now pull up every layer that you have turned on that

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 falls within that point that you've selected so um you've selected this parcel and uh this

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 flat and in the county let me scroll out and select one of these projects here seems to

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 have some issues with the projects but it any other layer will pull up information so

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 if you select the planning the default layer that turns on is the current zoning they have

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 to give it a second to load all

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 say the labels here we got the current zoning and we have future land use previous zoning

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 voter districts and we have the female layer contours wastewater gas well layer uh turn

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 on the gas well later turn off planning real quick there are this the active gas well padside

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 uh buffers we have set here a 500 and 1000 foot buffer i go over here so you can see

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 from these uh gas flows you have a 500 foot and 1000 foot set on here and you can just

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 have that turned on for every gas flow in the city so that's a handy layer to know about

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 and then up here on the top right we have it set to the uh regular background but if

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 you drag this over all the way you turn on our aerial imagery if you want to you could

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 only drag it halfway and kind of have it faded in the background and then up in the tools

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 we have another measuring tool does the same as the other ones did so you can select and

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 draw lines that measure and you can do the same for an area with acreage square feet

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 whatever you like we also have many different search functions so you can search by parcel

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 property id you can search by uh projects and track it and then up in the map section

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 we um you can save a particular bookmark of a location and you can print out maps

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 but this is primarily useful because you know you can all the different types of layers

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 that we have stored within our system do we have any particular questions any particular

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 layers you guys might be looking for commissioner beck yeah thank you chair uh cody when you

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 select something with a body of water in it does it include the body of water in the in

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 the characteristic features i don't believe so i think that that's more of a background

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 layer okay so for example if if i wanted to know how much uh acreage was in a detention

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 pond or over there in part of the lake i would have to select an area boundary uh calculate

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 the area and then yeah you could pick that one and then get the acreage for the entire

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 parcel does that acreage include the body of water it does not include the body of water

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 by default yes the area would be including the body of water i believe um but you could

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 if you wanted to measure out that body of water get an estimate on that and then subtract

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 it out or you call up our gis department here we could measure we have a separate um i believe

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 lakes and rivers layers that we could calculate the area from there i don't believe we have

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 them available on this interactive map but um if that's something that is done often

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 you can see about adding it in so my second question is um if we as we have more layers

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 is this a server side or client side is it is my computer gets slower um i believe it's

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 server side um i'm currently running it from my personal desktop and um seems to be running

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 fairly fine okay um a laptop might have a little bit more difficulty if you're using

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 a lot of layers but um i think for the most part it should run fine awesome thank you

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 cody appreciate it is there any other questions okay if you could just show sorry sorry chair

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 the um the integration with track it and where they're going where we're going so just to

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 give everyone an idea um i don't know if you want to maybe click on a parcel that recently

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 was platted um up on maybe try windsor right there at um windsor and 35 let's see uh one

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 of these ones on the left here work um to the north right right there all right so i'm

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 going to identify this property here and uh we have a map link to dcad here to click on

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 that pulls out a whole uh link to dcad for that property yeah and just for a shortcut

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 at least my little shortcut that i use when you click on that dcad link you can it'll

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 save you plat so if you ever need to pull the plat on the property this is sort of a

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 shortcut as opposed to going through um our laser fish and so if it's recorded it'll automatically

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 pull the plat up for that um for that parcel and so if it is a drainage pond or a detention

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 area uh it may it may very well have that acreage right on the uh on the plat and i

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 don't know why that's not pulling up the track it you might have to click it to the other

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 other parcel for some reason yeah that particular one doesn't seem to have track it info on

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 it but let me try oh you know what may have been because i took off the property layer

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 yeah there we go yeah here we go so if you click on it so if you scroll on the bottom

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 you'll see this track it search yeah so if you go over to the one that just says parcels

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 not the uh dentin sde parcels uh the dentin sde parcels is linking out to dcad's parcels

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 which has different information but it doesn't have our tracking info that's down here on

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 the bottom of the parcel layer and here you can see we have the dcad info along with code

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 enforcement reports plat as bills and a track it search which richard was mentioning which

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 you can then select and it will show all track it uh projects and permits associated with

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 that particular property so that's where it's part of the new software those will actually

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 be all linked together right now we're running track it and project docs once we integrate

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 everything into track it all of that information will be there and and the intent really is

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 so say if it's a rezoning you'll be able to click and access that approved ordinance um

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 through this as opposed to uh waiting having to go through open records and and uh various

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 other requests so that way it would be available immediately and i've already seen it working

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 on some other properties i don't know why it's not on that one but i have pulled them

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 up and seen projects associated so there's permits that one doesn't have any projects

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 but it's got many different cases you can see all the side info on contact speeds

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 uh how much of everything is on the the public facing website right so this is all completely

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 public data there's there's no city private data uh yeah what i'm viewing right here is

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 all on the public site okay i think the only thing that's not shown um would be dme facilities

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 some of the electric facilities um but it does show if you click on that water and wastewater

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 layer it'll show the lines where those lines are maybe not exact location um but it will

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 show where there's availability as well as the size of those lines well and since you

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 brought it up at his right right of way lines and other things all of that would be there

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 awesome uh cody uh thank you for the presentation is there any other questions um for these

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 three maps that he walked us through this evening i do not oh commissioner beck so i

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 mentioned this before in the matrix discussions over various meetings but um i found this

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 very helpful and we see this bi-weekly um and so uh is there intent to do uh public

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 outreach with a similar training yeah we talked internally already about um after after the

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 last meeting and so uh they're working through uh public affairs as well as dtb to uh come

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 up with a whether it's just a simple um video like this um that kind of walks everybody

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 through so so they are that is in the works and would be available will be available oh

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 i think you're gonna have a lot of pleased at night so that'd be awesome uh cody i don't

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 see any other questions but i appreciate you uh walking us through these three maps yeah

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 no problem thank you very much okay with that we can hop into uh our agenda for this evening

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 we have uh minutes to approve uh it's item two for a regular meeting from december 2nd

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 is there any um notes or uh changes that we can or need to make on these minutes uh seeing

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 none we'll continue forward and i just want to let the record show before i forget that

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 uh commissioner anderson is now with us with commissioner perneta so they're both all here

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 now uh going to the consent agenda we have three items for the consent would anyone like

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 any of these items pulled for review christian rebec thank you chair um yeah i if when we're

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 having i just have some questions about uh b3b okay uh if julie's around can we uh trouble

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 her to present 3b pp 20-0025a she's coming up now

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 good evening let me pull up the presentation and i apologize if you could repeat which

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 plat you are um 25a uh item 3b

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 mockingbird and cecilia

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 this one

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 i'm sorry it was 220-0025a the one before this

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 ah there okay no no that's what next one next one oh there we go yes how can i help you

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 so um some some folks in the public had some questions about um exactly where the definitions

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 of of right away and uh i wanted to see if you could help address that um when we talk

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 about the 60 or 65 foot right of ways uh along mockingbird um can can you define where those

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 are where those boundaries are uh along mockingbird along this location yes certainly on the west

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 end of the property sure so mockingbird lane is um is a collector road within the city

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 of denton which requires a certain um width of right of way and so they are um they are

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 required to dedicate that right of way um consistent with the mobility plan and that

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 um that roadway section so they are they are dedicating that right away consistent with

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 the mobility plan and is it 65 feet from the edge of the road can can you help just describe

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 that for the public 65 feet um would be uh the the maximum width um in in this instance

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 i believe and so it would be a half of that from the center line of the road so 32 and

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 a half from the center line of the road 65 feet total width and and um just to kind of

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 further explain right of way right of way also not only includes um the uh the the travel

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 lanes for a road it also includes the curb and gutter and then um any parkway and sidewalk

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 all of that goes within a right of way and and is it um is it always symmetric or you

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 could have you know 40 on one side and 60 on the other um it's always whatever width

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 a right of way is required for the mobility plan um a a property owner would have to dedicate

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 half of half so the center line is always in the same spot and and wherever that property

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 line for any individual property they would have to dedicate half of whatever um or enough

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 enough right of way to equal that half width of that total right of way so that it would

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 always follow that same center line did i explain that so yes uh so in a in a hypothetical

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 let's say let's say it was 65 and you were doing a 32 and whatever 37 and a half um no

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 30 and two and a half 32 and a half um i only work with numbers for a living um and so if

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 let's say the existing property in the west this is just a hypothetical i'm not accusing

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 the property in the west of this but let's say that was 20 feet from center line um therefore

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 would be non-conforming by our current standards would the new property owners have to dedicate

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 45 feet from center line so there was a total of 65 or they would only be required to dedicate

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 32 and a half feet they would only have to dedicate um so i guess following that hypothetical

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 um if if a hypothetical property was on the west side of a road that required a 65 total

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 feet of right of way wherever the center line was of that road they would have to dedicate

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 they would have to ensure that their right of way um would would um total 32 and a half

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 feet from that center line so they wouldn't have to necessarily make up the difference

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 on the opposite side um but they would have to ensure so if if if their property began

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 20 feet from that center line they would have to dedicate 12 and a half feet okay that that's

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 very clear thank you julie you bet great uh so all the consent agenda items are actually

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 julie's does anyone have any questions for her commissioner alice thank you chair yeah

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 um julie i did have a question on the first one on 3a and it's just really a clarification

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 let me that's the 2023a so my question yeah so my question is not on the plat per se okay

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 but in the ais it read once all required corrections are made the proposed preliminary

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 plat will conform with the sup so are there still corrections to this plat or is that

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 old info prior to the recommendation for approval you are exactly correct so this plat you've

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 actually seen before and it was um there was an extension approved so that that was actually

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 a um a uh editing error on my part for this one perfect that's what i need clarified thank

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 you you bet any other questions for julie okay let's go in the next items of business

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 which is our list of individual items of um or items for individual consideration rather

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 we got a lot of them um so we can just kind of get right to it um first one is item 4a

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 pp 20-0026b and this is karina malden autos that's not karina nope there she is it's me

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 i'm here gotcha all right looks like hayley's gonna be driving for you yeah thank you i

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 can't see the screen but i'm gonna assume it's up already it's not uh yet getting closer

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 yeah there it is i i'm at home so i got a lag online yeah it's up now okay uh so this

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 request is for a preliminary plat of 100 north loop 288 addition um there are some changes

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 on the caption then um from what was posted and now um so this part is being recommended

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 for denial but uh some comments were addressed so the changes related to this project um the

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 the total site area is rather than 5.97 acres it is now 19.49 um and that was to include

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 the parent tract um that was previously excluded um uh so staff is working recommending denial

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 um they did address several of the engineering comments um that that were posted um the items

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 that are outstanding are related to easement dedications dry waste basing drainage calculations

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 and tree preservation um uh so this this plat um already requested an extension at the last

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 meeting so they no longer have that option um so uh this is currently where we stand

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 at this point and with that i can take any questions any questions for karina back mr

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 beck yeah karina richard can someone remind me uh on a denial where the applicant wants

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 to continue going forward is that a reapplication fee and and what are the what are the steps

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 um if they go to correct these items it's a it's a it's a it's a resubmittal um it's

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 not a complete new application um it is a resubmittal and there is a resubmittal fee

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 associated with that okay thank you is the fee flat or is it dependent on the project

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 size it's flat i believe it's half the price of um i think it's 50 of the cost i have the

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 fee manual right in front of me great any other questions for karina okay let's go to

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 item 4b fp 20-0025a this is hayley's item

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 all right good evening commissioners uh this is the final plan for the wood mirror edition

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 uh we looked at this plan at our last meeting and they did request that extension um since

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 that time they they still have a couple of outstanding items uh primarily related to

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 the conservation easement um if you remember back to the zoning when council approved this

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 part of that condition was for conservation easements to be dedicated for the benefit

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 of the hoa um those easements are after discussion with our legal department we've determined

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 that those will be dedicated to the city and the city will hold them for the benefit of

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 the hoa since the hoa can't can't withhold and be the beneficiary of those easements

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 um so those easements are going to council in the at the um meeting tomorrow actually on december 17th

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 and if those are accepted then this plat assuming it is denied this evening would come back to you

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 all in january for approval once all of those conditions of the zoning are met um but at this

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 time staff is recommending denial because of that outstanding item thanks hayley is this going to

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 require a resubmission or is the applicant asking for an extension to come back in january

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 um they're they're not able to request a second extension under state law um so since they've

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 already done that um it it's not necessarily a resubmittal since there's nothing for staff

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 to review um we would place it back on the agenda in january once all the conditions are met

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 understood thank you any questions for hayley on this item

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 seeing none we're gonna stick with hayley for the next item for cfp 20-0027

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 um all right this is the final plat for the the woodlands edition um this property as you can see

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 is located on the north side of mckinney street um this is a mobile home park some of you may

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 remember um in 2018 uh or early 2019 came through for a zoning and sup for that

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 manufactured housing development um at this time staff is recommending denial of the request

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 um for all of the reasons that are outlined in exhibit two however the applicant has requested

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 an extension to the january 6th meeting to to give them time to work through those outstanding items

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 great any questions on this item commissioner beck this is sort of a generic because um

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 most of these these denials are denials with the extension seem to have sort of small outstanding

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 conditions that didn't quite get met um so this is why i asked that several meetings um

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 i keep asking the question um are these the type of things that can be met by the date we're

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 extending to and for many of these items uh they're they're not actually being met so i guess

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 is there is there some way to gauge how much time it would actually take so that we don't extend it

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 two weeks when it's going to take four weeks to do or i mean is there is there something where

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 we're we're either the applicants are not doing or city is not doing in order to to have the date

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 extensions be more in line with the actual amount of time it's taking does that make sense what i'm

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 asking it does unfortunately state law only allows for that extension to be up to 30 days it can't be

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 for more um so when we bring these to you we we calculate you know whether which pnz meetings are

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 within that that 30-day range okay most often it's it's just the next meeting um unfortunately

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 it's not always that full 30 days but okay well that's unfortunate thank you hailey

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 any other questions on this item great hailey you're up with uh fr 20-17

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 all right this is um a replat for a portion of razor ranch this is uh known as the razor cottages

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 that you all recently saw a site plan for um so this is a replat of of what was formerly a single

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 lot um it will now be for 37 uh cottage homes as we looked at with that zoning compliance plan as

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 well as um some common area lots that would include the amenity area as well as the streets

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 which will be private and maintained by the homeowner's side of the area so we're going to

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 look at all of those areas and we're going to look at all of those areas and we're going to look

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 at all of those areas and we're going to look at all of those areas and we're going to look at all

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 of those areas and we're going to look at all of those areas and we're going to look at all of

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 those areas and we're going to look at all of those areas and we're going to look at all of

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 those areas and we're going to look at all of those areas and we're going to look at all of

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 those areas and we're going to look at all of those areas and we're going to look at all of

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 those areas and we're going to look at all of those areas and we're going to look at all of

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 plat it's more um i guess a legal question of how how we're uh i guess approving an extension

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 are we saying to the date certain of the next meeting because i don't we don't want to say

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 granting a 30-day extension because we're really not doing that correct

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 correct my reading of it is we're granting the extension until the date certain

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 of of one six correct okay all right thank you uh hailey pp 20-0028 item e back to you

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 all right this is a preliminary plat uh for the denton extra edition number two the property is

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 located at the corner of jim crystal and western boulevard as you can see here on the map um this

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 this is for three industrial lots um two of them are intended to be developed with industrial uses

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 the third is a small lot that is currently developed with the gas well and is essentially

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 the boundaries of the approved gas well site plan for that portion of the property

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 again staff is recommending denial at this time because it does not meet all of the established

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 requirements as are outlined in exhibit two the applicant for this project has also requested

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 that extension to january 6th great any questions for hailey on this item

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 uh christner beck so as i recall one of the items and correct me hailey i think was

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 approval of the alt isa for this region am i am i misremembering my uh i should have made better

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 notes is that correct yes there as the plans are shown there will be a need for an alternative

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 isa on this project um there is a portion of the property down here um and on the southern side

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 along jim crystal where there is a stream channel that runs through um i believe it has been

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 determined to be undeveloped floodplain as well as riparian buffer um the applicant's still working

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 through their their site plan proposal um and as part of that staff's determining kind of what the

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 scope of that alt isa would need to be but that would be a future need for this property before

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 they could actually pursue that development so we would need to have that in place before

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 so i guess this is this goes back to sort of related to my earlier question can we can we

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 actually achieve this by january 6th if the if we have to chicken and egg this alt isa um the

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 the alternative isa plan the code doesn't specify where that occurs in the process they they have to

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 have that approved before they can move into any site development activity so typically um most

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 applicants i would say at least go through the zoning compliance plan make sure they know how

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 they want to lay out the site and what encroachments would actually be in the isa and then once they get

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 through preliminary platting before they go to the full step of of civil engineering plans and

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 things of that nature that are that fine grain detail and a little more expensive they would

405
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,200
 work through that alternative isa to ensure they could get the necessary approvals for the development

406
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,680
 but we don't have to have that we have to have that in place before building activities but not

407
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:46,040
 before approval correct so the the preliminary plat typically just contains a note saying an

408
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,520
 alternative isa is is required and if they don't get that then then they're subject to possibly

409
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,280
 having to redo the preliminary plat okay that clarifies it thank you so much

410
00:43:54,280 --> 00:44:03,800
 any other questions on this item all right hayley we got one more fpp 20-0029 for you

411
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:09,480
 all right so this is a preliminary plat that is for the woodlands on mckinney street edition

412
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:15,240
 if you remember the the plat we previously looked at was for the manufactured home development that

413
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:20,920
 would be just to the to the west of this property as part of that zoning and sup some of you may

414
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:27,960
 recall there were were there was a requirement for six one acre lots to be developed along trinity for

415
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:34,360
 single-family detached homes so this plat is is for that portion of the property these would be

416
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:39,560
 those one acre single-family detached homes along trinity at this time again staff is recommending

417
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:44,280
 denial due to the reasons outlined in exhibit two however the applicant has again requested

418
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:50,520
 that extension to january 6th any questions for hayley on this item

419
00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:02,360
 okay seeing none i will invite julie for presentation for item g pp 20-0030

420
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:15,880
 good evening let me share my screen

421
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:29,160
 so this one um actually uh friday late this is uh

422
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:44,280
 there we go okay so um this property is located just adjacent to university

423
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:51,800
 near fulton street on the south side of university they are proposing to develop it with a retail

424
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:58,360
 use which is consistent with the zoning um up until late friday it it um they hadn't addressed

425
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,680
 all the comments but we do try to work with the applicant to get comments addressed before the

426
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,520
 planning and zoning commission so they have addressed staff's comments and we do recommend

427
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:11,960
 approval of the request and i'll be happy to answer any questions great thanks julie any questions

428
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:22,760
 i do not see any thank you for the presentation i think the last three we're gonna have

429
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:30,600
 mr ron manguida uh carry us home it's starting with item hfr 20-0016a

430
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:39,320
 yes good evening can can y'all hear me we can awesome uh the first item that you're looking at

431
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:46,920
 hopefully uh haley julie has it up on the screen it's for a final reply for a 64 lot residential

432
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:55,240
 subdivision phase 1a of the eagle creek residential development staff is recommending approval

433
00:46:55,240 --> 00:47:02,680
 of this request um as of this afternoon they were able to address the comment that was outstanding

434
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,600
 so again staff's recommending approval and i'll stand for any questions

435
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,760
 any questions for ron on this item

436
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:16,280
 commissioner alice thank you chair i guess just ron

437
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,280
 did anything change from what was submitted in our backup

438
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:28,200
 no uh the comment that was outstanding was their uh hoa documents uh that was something i was

439
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:34,680
 pending so as far as the plat itself uh nothing has changed it was just confirming that the hoa

440
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:42,360
 documents were up to the uh uh requirements that we we we have in the design code okay fantastic

441
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:50,440
 thank you christian rebec and and i assume ron that you've been in touch with um kimley horn and

442
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:55,960
 the uh and the applicant group through the since the last meeting when we extended this

443
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:03,720
 or have you not been in touch with me they have no we we have okay thank you

444
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:15,240
 yes any other questions for ron this item seeing none we'll go to item i fr 20-0019

445
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:23,400
 continue with ron yes uh this is uh another phase of the eagle creek uh residential subdivision it

446
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:33,160
 is phase 2a and this consists of 91 residential single-family lots as well as hoa lots part of

447
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:40,280
 this phase similar to the first item or the item that i discussed earlier the comments that were

448
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:46,040
 pending when the packets were sent out have been addressed and again as of this afternoon

449
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:51,240
 the staff is recommending approval of this request and i'll stand for any questions

450
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:04,600
 i do not see any questions on this item uh next we have item 4j pp 20-0027

451
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:12,520
 all right this is the at the last of the items um for individual for consideration this is a

452
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:18,600
 preliminary plaque for a development a multi-family development uh hopefully you'll remember this site

453
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:26,520
 this is um a site that received a specific use permit uh to build approximately 149 dwelling units

454
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,920
 again this is just the preliminary plaque now staff is recommending denial of this

455
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:37,480
 preliminary plan primarily because of the section of the code that have not been complied with

456
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:46,920
 by the applicant section 39a of the criteria manual table 7b of the development code as well

457
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:52,920
 as section 753 in regards to general drainage requirements of development code are still pending

458
00:49:52,920 --> 00:50:00,920
 comments however the applicant has submitted a extension for the plumber plot and staff does

459
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:08,760
 not have any opposition to the 30-day extension and ron uh it's not detailed in the agenda we're on

460
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:15,000
 the slide but we'd be looking at the january 6th because of the 30-day cap yes yes sir uh it's

461
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:21,640
 similar to the other um on plat applications they would be to a date certain of january 6th okay

462
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:30,840
 perfect any commissioner beck so this is germaine to the question that jerry thank you chair uh to

463
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:38,600
 the chip that the chair just put up is is this uh some of these delays uh or some of these lack

464
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:45,800
 of synchronicity between the applicants and and planning with a 30 with 30 shot clock is that is

465
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:56,440
 that some of that based on our bimonthly schedule would we alleviate um some of the disconnect if we

466
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:07,320
 had a uh two-week schedule and and still be um uh i mean effectively a bimonthly is a two-week but

467
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:14,680
 there's a little bit of fudge there and and would we would we be able to be more in sync with the

468
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:20,040
 30-day shot clock and the extensions needed if we went to a every two-week schedule would that help

469
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:29,640
 or or it's not going to make any difference i think that um we already have a bimonthly meeting

470
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:35,080
 a schedule for png um i don't think it will i think there's some months will work and others

471
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:42,680
 just happen to have an extra week in those situations those those do help but i i don't

472
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:47,320
 think increasing the number of meetings would change it i think there are certain months that

473
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:54,680
 work in certain months that do not okay well i was just trying to think of a way where instead of a

474
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:59,800
 you know you can you could get a little finer alignment with some of these extensions but if

475
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,680
 it's not going to help yeah uh christopher back i'm looking at january if we went to every other

476
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:11,960
 um week we still couldn't get to the 20th um to that meeting date because of it being the 16th

477
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:18,520
 today but yeah on the january 20 meeting we actually can push two meetings out uh we would

478
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:24,440
 actually be able to realize you know 27 days and two different meetings so anything like delayed

479
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:29,480
 on january 20th could be pushed all the way to february 17th um so i think to to ron's

480
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:36,200
 point it's just a matter of how the calendar falls okay yeah this is it was just a you know

481
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:42,440
 being tied to the bi-monthly thing i was wondering if that wasn't constraining us

482
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:49,080
 unnecessarily but i mean if it's six of one half dozen of the other then then okay i think the

483
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:55,080
 only solution that uh because sir beck's proposing is we meet weekly um and so no as the term limited

484
00:52:55,080 --> 00:53:02,680
 chair i'm all ford guys i'll support that for y'all for your legislature to change the bill

485
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:11,640
 coming sessions uh with that uh that concludes our agenda for this evening uh so the work session i

486
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:20,360
 will close at 5 54 uh we'll meet back here in this zoom account at 6 30 for the regular meeting thank

487
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:31,960
 you good evening ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the regular meeting for planning and zoning

488
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,840
 commission for wednesday december 16th 2020 seeing that we have a quorum i will call this meeting to

489
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:45,640
 order at 6 31 the first item on the agenda is to provide a pledge of allegiance to the us and texas

490
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:54,360
 flag uh if the commissioners want to join me you can unmute yourself i pledge allegiance to the

491
00:53:54,360 --> 00:54:01,880
 flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god

492
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,400
 indivisible with liberty and justice for all

493
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:16,280
 honor the texas flag i pledge allegiance to the texas one state under god one and indivisible

494
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:22,600
 excited businesses to consider approval for the plane and zoning minutes from december 2nd

495
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:27,320
 commissioner smith make a motion to approve you got a first commissioner alice

496
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,000
 second we have a first and a second for approval any discussion

497
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:36,200
 seeing none i'll call for a vote via roll call uh start with commissioner beck

498
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:42,920
 aye commissioner alice aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson

499
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:50,120
 aye commissioner pernetta aye commissioner smith why chairs also an aye motion carries

500
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:56,520
 seven zero the next item is our consent agenda there's three items three a b and c

501
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:03,880
 here i'll entertain a motion commissioner alice i move approval we have a first for approval

502
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,680
 commissioner smith we have first and second for approval any discussion on these items

503
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:13,000
 seeing nine i'll call for a vote via roll call commissioner beck

504
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:22,120
 aye commissioner alice aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson aye commissioner pernetta

505
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:31,000
 aye commissioner smith aye motion carries seven zero the next item of business is the individual

506
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:38,520
 items for consideration we'll start with 4a pp 20-0026b and i'll invite kareena maldenato for

507
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:47,800
 presentation good evening kareena maldenato assistant planner um the request before you is

508
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:57,480
 for pp-0026 this is a preliminary plat of the 100 north loop 288 edition for approximately 19.49

509
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:05,480
 acres for six commercial lots located on the east side of loop 288 staff is recommending denial of

510
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:11,080
 this request as they still have not addressed a few engineering comments related to easement

511
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:18,280
 dedications uh driveway spacing drainage calculations and tree preservation um the applicant

512
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:25,400
 has already used their 30-day extension request and so um for this reason staff is recommending

513
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,880
 denial and i can answer any questions you have and i believe the applicant is also on

514
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:35,720
 the call great any questions for kareena or the applicant on this item

515
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,360
 charles certainly entertaining discussion or emotion commissioner smith

516
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:49,240
 making a motion to deny we have a first commissioner pernetta a second we have a first

517
00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:57,480
 and a second any discussion we have first and a second for uh denial an aye vote and favor would

518
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:03,480
 be to to deny just as a reminder we'll take a vote via roll call beginning with commissioner beck

519
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:12,120
 aye commissioner ellis aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson aye christian pernetta

520
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:19,320
 aye commissioner smith aye chair is also an aye motion carries seven zero next item of business

521
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:26,600
 is item 4b fp 20-0025 i'll invite hayley zagorski for presentation

522
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:37,160
 good evening this is item fp 20-25 this is the final plan for the woodmere edition

523
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,240
 the property as you can see on the map is located on the north side of ryan road

524
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:46,200
 at this time staff is recommending denial of the plat they have already

525
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:51,800
 utilized their one opportunity for extension and there is still an outstanding comment regarding

526
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:56,360
 conservation easements that are required to be accepted by the city so staff is recommending

527
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:01,240
 denial for all the reasons that are discussed in exhibit two i'm happy to stand for any questions

528
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,280
 is there any questions for hayley on this item

529
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:13,960
 christian or beck no i i don't have questions i was going to make a motion go for it i make a

530
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:21,800
 motion to deny on the grounds that staff uh represented thank you i mean for the reason

531
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:28,760
 staff specified great christian or cole second we have a first and a second for denial any discussion

532
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,880
 seeing none i call for a vote via roll call commissioner beck

533
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:42,520
 aye commissioner alice aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson aye commissioner pernetta

534
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:49,080
 aye commissioner smith aye chair is also an aye motion carries uh seven zero

535
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,160
 next item of business is also hayley with fp 20-0027

536
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:03,080
 all right good evening this is the final plat for the woodlands edition the property is located

537
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:07,720
 on the north side of mckinney and the east side of trinity road at this time staff is recommending

538
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:12,200
 denial as the plat does not meet all of the established requirements as outlined in exhibit

539
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:18,040
 two however the applicant has requested extension to january 6th and staff has no objections to this

540
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,480
 we'll stand for any questions is there any questions for hayley on this item

541
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:30,040
 commissioner anderson i'll make a motion to approve uh to the extension to date certain of january 6th

542
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:36,520
 great we have a first commissioner pernetta i'll second we have a first and a second for the

543
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:43,880
 approval of the extension of 30-day request to a date certain of january 6th 2021 any discussion

544
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:48,760
 seeing none i'll call for a vote via roll call commissioner beck

545
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:57,720
 aye commissioner ellis aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson aye commissioner pernetta

546
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:05,800
 aye commissioner smith aye chair is also an aye motion carries seven zero next item is item dfr

547
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:11,320
 20-11 uh no 0017 this is also hayley's item

548
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:19,400
 all right good evening this is a final replant for the razor cottages edition

549
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,320
 the property is located on the west side of bonnie ray between linden and crescent streets

550
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:28,280
 at this time staff is recommending denial as it does not meet all of the established requirements

551
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:33,480
 outlined in exhibit two and again the applicant has requested an extension to january 6th and

552
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:38,760
 staff has no objections to that request great thank you any questions for hayley on this item

553
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:45,480
 sure entertain any discussion or motion

554
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:56,520
 commissioner beck i make a motion to extend to january 6 2021 we have a first commissioner smith

555
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:02,600
 yeah we have first and a second to approve the applicant's request for a 30-day extension

556
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,360
 to the date certain of january 6 2021 any discussion

557
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:11,960
 seeing none i'll call for a vote via roll call commissioner beck

558
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:21,480
 aye commissioner ellis aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson aye commissioner pernetta

559
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:30,280
 aye commissioner smith aye chair is also an aye motion carries seven zero next item is also

560
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:41,240
 hayley's with item e pp 20-28 good evening this is the final plant for the denton exeter edition

561
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:47,480
 number two this is a platform for three industrial lots staff is recommending denial of this request

562
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,240
 as it does not meet the established requirements that are outlined in exhibit two of your backup

563
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:56,520
 again the applicant has requested that extension would be to a date certain of january 6th

564
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:01,160
 and staff has no objections to that great any questions for hayley

565
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:11,160
 seeing none we can take more discussion or a motion commissioner smith i make a motion to uh

566
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:20,840
 sorry what should uh sorry go ahead i'll pass my motion commissioner alice i make a motion to

567
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:28,120
 approve the applicant's extension to date certain of january 6th great we have a first commissioner

568
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:34,040
 anderson uh second the motion we have first and second to approve the applicant's request

569
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:39,000
 for an extension of 30 days uh to date certain of january 6th any discussion

570
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:43,480
 seeing none i'll call for a vote via roll call commissioner beck

571
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:52,760
 aye commissioner alice aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson aye commissioner pernetta

572
01:02:52,760 --> 01:03:01,000
 aye commissioner smith aye chair is also an aye motion carries seven zero next item is also

573
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:09,080
 hayley's it's item 4 fpp 20-0029 all right good evening again this is a preliminary plat request

574
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:14,440
 for the woodlands on mckinney street edition the plat is for six uh one acre residential lots

575
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:20,280
 located on the west side of trinity road um again staff is recommending denial as it does not yet

576
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:24,520
 meet all of the established requirements that are outlined in exhibit 2 of your backup again the

577
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:31,320
 applicant has requested that extension to january 6 of 2021 i will stand for any questions thanks

578
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:40,280
 hayley any questions okay chair will entertain a motion or discussion commissioner smith let's

579
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:46,120
 try it again i'll take them make a motion to approve the extension to date certain of january

580
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:53,800
 6 awesome we have a first on the table commissioner ellis second we have first and a second for uh an

581
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:59,000
 approval of the applicant's request of 30 days to date certain of january 6th is there any discussion

582
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:03,960
 on this item scene nine i'll call for a vote via roll call starting with commissioner beck

583
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:13,880
 aye commissioner ellis aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson aye commissioner pernetta

584
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:21,320
 aye commissioner smith aye chairs also an aye motion carries seven zero the next item is item

585
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:32,760
 4g pp 20-0030 and this is julie wyatt's uh item good evening let me share my screen

586
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:51,480
 this preliminary plat before you is to facilitate the development of a retail use along university

587
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:57,000
 drive um uh it does meet all of the established requirements and therefore staff recommends

588
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:02,760
 approval of this preliminary plat and i'll be happy to answer any questions thanks julie is there

589
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:10,280
 any questions for julie on this item seeing none the chair will entertain a motion christopher

590
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:15,960
 seeing none the chair will entertain a motion christopher anderson i motion to approve

591
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:21,880
 we have a first for approval commissioner pernetta i'll second we have a first and a

592
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:29,800
 second for approval any discussion scene nine i'll call for a uh vote via roll call commissioner beck

593
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:40,440
 aye commissioner ellis aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson aye commissioner pernetta

594
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:48,440
 um getting a thumbs up and support commissioner pernetta is an aye there you go commissioner

595
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:56,760
 smith aye chair is also an aye uh motion carries seven zero next item is item 4h

596
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:04,200
 this item is ron venguidas uh it's fr 20-0016 i believe ron is calling in for this item

597
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:12,840
 yes good evening everyone um this particular plat application is for a final replat for a

598
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:19,960
 phase 1a for of the eagle creek residential subdivision um staff has reviewed this application

599
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:24,840
 and is recommending approval as it meets the established approval criteria for final replats

600
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:30,680
 as outlined in the den development code i'll stand for any questions great thanks ron um we

601
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:37,000
 actually have an individual who has elected to call in and provide his perspective or her perspective

602
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:53,000
 on this matter so what i'd like to do is ask staff to bring the caller on

603
01:06:55,480 --> 01:07:04,680
 uh good evening you are with the planning zoning commission uh appreciate you calling in if you

604
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:11,000
 just state your name and your address you'll have four minutes to speak hi this is eric pruett

605
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:19,640
 21 11 21 11 westwood drive um so i understand this is a plat and and you should approve it

606
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:26,440
 in my opinion it's i'm not against the plat um but it is in my backyard uh metaphorically

607
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:33,720
 less than a quarter mile away and i i wanted to express a couple things that i see on how these

608
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:39,640
 subdivisions are being laid out uh given the constraints of our development code i see that

609
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:45,480
 uh if you look at it where highland park and parvin street kind of intersect those are both

610
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:53,160
 designated collector streets um or collector roadways on the mobility plan and uh what i see

611
01:07:53,160 --> 01:08:01,240
 is that the the residential lots are pushed away from those streets and the the buffer if you will

612
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:07,640
 between the street and the lots is used as open space uh to to satisfy the open space requirements

613
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:15,000
 um i i don't really see a lot of you know six and ten year olds being told to go play right

614
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:21,880
 next to the street like that um i think when you have wide areas next to the street like that that

615
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:26,200
 that looks really open it tends to encourage more speeding which we're seeing in a lot of our

616
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:38,200
 neighborhoods um and and it also tends to uh not um capitalize on the the infrastructure that we have

617
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:43,480
 there with those collector roadways you know in many of our neighborhoods we do have uh small

618
01:08:43,480 --> 01:08:49,800
 businesses you know not large things but small businesses on collector roadways and uh and what

619
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:59,080
 we have here is an area that is zoned r4 um in a very large swath and so it's easier for uh

620
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:04,360
 developers to just come in and say okay we will build what's permitted in r4 and they they don't

621
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:10,200
 want to come in and request uh small zoning changes for small lots that they want to plat

622
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:16,440
 because it's a lot of trouble and it's not a lot of benefit to them uh monetarily but it could be

623
01:09:16,440 --> 01:09:22,600
 a a large benefit to the communities involved if they have some small shops within their community

624
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:29,960
 so so those are my thoughts i hope that you'll consider them uh not necessarily as as you vote

625
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:34,840
 for this or against it but as you look toward how dentin is developing in the future

626
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,440
 i appreciate you calling in mr prude we have a question for you commissioner beck

627
01:09:40,440 --> 01:09:47,480
 yeah thank you chair um mr prude so what would you what would your approach be how would you like to

628
01:09:47,480 --> 01:09:56,120
 see future items like this remedied well i i guess i wonder i don't have the experience uh or the

629
01:09:56,120 --> 01:10:03,400
 knowledge to know what would be effective but i wonder what an effective method would be to uh let

630
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:10,520
 developers know that even though they have a parcel that's zoned all residential that uh if

631
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:17,720
 it is the will of the council and the commission to uh to allow some neighborhood retail maybe

632
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:23,880
 zone a few parcels r7 so that they can go toward that in the future uh that that's something the

633
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:28,760
 city would like to see and you know there's no guarantee that uh that that it would start

634
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:34,600
 happening but at least you could offer it up front um and and see where it goes from there so would

635
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:43,080
 you like to see hypothetically um a fringe included with every designation something like a a buffer or

636
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:52,280
 girdle where it was say r4 r7 on the edge and r4 on the interior i think that's highly context

637
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:57,080
 sensitive right to the area sometimes it might make sense to have it on the edge sometimes it

638
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:02,760
 might make sense to have a little neighborhood center um with you know a flower shop and a cafe

639
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:07,560
 and and a coffee shop or something right it really just depends on the area so i don't

640
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:16,120
 think there's a one-size-fits-all solution thank you any other questions for mr prudet

641
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:22,520
 i don't see any but i appreciate you hanging on with us tonight and calling in thank you very much

642
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:28,120
 thank you was there any other discussion or a motion to be had on this item

643
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:33,240
 commissioner alice

644
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:39,720
 we have a first for approval commissioner cole

645
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:45,880
 perfect we have a first and a second for approval any discussion on the item

646
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:50,680
 seeing none i'll call for a vote via roll call starting with commissioner beck

647
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:57,160
 aye commissioner alice aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson

648
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:01,640
 aye commissioner prunetta aye commissioner smith

649
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:09,560
 aye chair is also an aye motion carries seven zero the next item is for ifr 20-0019

650
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:16,600
 this is also ron's item take the floor when you're ready yes um again good evening this is a final

651
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:23,880
 replied application for a property in the same vicinity it is phase 2a of the eagle creek

652
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:32,120
 residential subdivision it is proposed for 92 lots single family residential and as staffs

653
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:38,760
 recommending approval as it meets the criteria for final replats outlined in the dentin development

654
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:47,720
 code i'll stand for any questions any questions for ron commissioner beck sorry i was in the wrong

655
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:56,760
 window uh thank you chair so wait um this i think i've gotten my items confused this this now meets

656
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:04,280
 approval is is is that the one you is that what you're saying yes um as of this afternoon i know

657
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:09,000
 your backup says it's recommendation for denial however as of this afternoon the applicant was

658
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:15,080
 able to address the comment that was the remaining outstanding comment for this final reflect okay

659
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,800
 thank you ron any other questions for ron

660
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:25,000
 all right seeing none chair will entertain any discussion or a motion commissioner smith

661
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:30,040
 about your new proof we have first for approval commissioner anderson

662
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:36,760
 uh second the motion we have a first and a second for approval any discussion

663
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:41,640
 seeing none i call for a vote via roll call starting with commissioner beck

664
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:50,200
 aye commissioner ellis aye commissioner cole aye commissioner anderson aye commissioner prunetta

665
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:57,880
 aye commissioner smith aye chair is also an aye motion carries seven zero the last item for

666
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:07,720
 individual considerations is item 4j pp 20-0027 and ron will be presenting this one thank you chair

667
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:13,560
 this is a preliminary application for property located southwest of mingo and mockingbird

668
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:21,240
 for for you all you probably remember this particular site this site received a specific

669
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:26,680
 use permit to allow for a multifamily development the plenary plat is the next step in the development

670
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:32,760
 process through the review of this plenary plat staff is recommending denial as it does not

671
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:42,200
 currently meet the criteria for plenary plat for approvals as specifically section 3.9a as well as

672
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:49,640
 table 7b and section 753 of the intensive development code however staff has no opposition

673
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:56,920
 of their request to extend the 30-day extension to a date certain of january 6 and i'll stand for any

674
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:03,960
 questions great thank you any questions for ron seeing none charlotte entertain the motion the

675
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:11,960
 discussion commissioner ellis approval of the applicant's request for an extension to a date

676
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:17,640
 certain of january 6th great we have a first commissioner beck i'll second that we have first

677
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:22,440
 and a second for approval of the applicant's request for 30 days extension which pushes it to

678
01:15:22,440 --> 01:15:29,080
 the date certain of january 6th any discussion seeing none i'll call for a vote via roll call

679
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:35,960
 starting with commissioner beck aye commissioner ellis aye commissioner cole aye commissioner

680
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:42,440
 anderson aye commissioner pernetta aye commissioner smith aye chair is also an

681
01:15:42,440 --> 01:15:48,520
 aye motion carries seven zero that concludes our working agenda for this evening the concluding

682
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:54,200
 item is the planning zoning commission project matrix as always i'll turn it over to richard

683
01:15:54,200 --> 01:16:01,400
 for any updates and it's the day is for discussion sure thank you um just briefly i really have no

684
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:09,720
 updates on um on the matrix or the council action we just haven't had any although i didn't hit my

685
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:15,720
 goal of not having any items the last meeting in january i'm sorry the last meeting in december on

686
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:20,920
 the matrix but we have a couple carryover items so i'm trying to get those whittled down we will

687
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:28,040
 be back in january with at our second meeting regarding the alt isa and then once um our dcrc

688
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:34,040
 gets um some new members and get that reconstituted we'll be back uh we'll talk about the other items

689
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:40,440
 that that are on that list but that's all of happy holidays and happy new year awesome thanks richard

690
01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:46,040
 any items that anyone wants to slap on the matrix commissioner beck no i just have a follow-up

691
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:54,760
 question on uh for richard on the uh dcrc uh do you have an eta for how long now that we've uh

692
01:16:54,760 --> 01:17:02,520
 got new council members it will take to reconstitute the dcrc there's an item being uh prepared for

693
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:09,960
 january meeting um with respect to appointments for boards council has a meeting where they have

694
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:15,240
 discussed all appointments for boards council committees um and so at that point in time that

695
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:21,640
 would that ordinance would be brought up to be amended um to uh to nominate those those individuals

696
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:28,920
 that went off all right thank you commissioner ellis thank you chair first of all richard i

697
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:34,680
 think you've done a great job whittling down the matrix because i thank you certainly certainly

698
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:41,640
 long when you when you began um one thing i'd like to add either to it maybe it needs a work

699
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:47,160
 session anyway we always have a lot of questions it seems regarding fees and when they're imposed

700
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:52,440
 when they're not what they are is can we have maybe a bit of a discussion on that just kind of

701
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:59,560
 you know high level overview of that absolutely what i'll have um i'll have charlie rosenthal who

702
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:04,440
 i think you've you've met before i'll have him um come and give a presentation an overview of

703
01:18:04,440 --> 01:18:11,480
 how our fee structure works um including the matrix study that we did that that really looked at

704
01:18:11,480 --> 01:18:16,440
 um you know that it paid for itself essentially development pay for itself and and those fees

705
01:18:16,440 --> 01:18:23,320
 be paid um through what the actual time that staff takes to review it and so i'll have him give that

706
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:29,000
 overview um how that works i don't know if we'll get too far into the impact fee but at least give

707
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:35,160
 a little bit a bit of a discussion in when and how that's assessed um obviously those are being

708
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:41,400
 being looked at now um but but we'll include that through both the planning and zoning stage um all

709
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:46,920
 the way through building building permits just to give a snapshot yeah that'd be great thank you um

710
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:52,680
 and happy holidays to everybody too uh commissioner cole you have something or you just waving at

711
01:18:52,680 --> 01:19:00,120
 commissioner alice just waving he says just waving just waving um uh commissioner smith you waving or

712
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:05,960
 you have something i actually have something uh what richard what's the latest update on the

713
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:14,520
 um the fiscal impact analysis rfp those so now uh we have an agenda item uh tomorrow um for uh to

714
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:21,240
 enter into a contract with uh ae com for that um to complete that to complete that study and then

715
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:27,480
 build build that model that would be used so that's on on consent on tomorrow's uh tomorrow's council

716
01:19:27,480 --> 01:19:33,320
 agenda what's the uh what's the rough timeline for when that would come forward you think or how long

717
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:38,360
 you think that'll take i want to say we had about six six months lead time all the way you know from

718
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:42,840
 from start start to finish um i mean there's there's going to be some testing that they'll have to do

719
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:48,680
 and one thing we liked is that you know it's not that they're pulling a canned model that they have

720
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:54,280
 so it'll take some time to build it um specific to denton um but their overall timeline i think was

721
01:19:54,280 --> 01:20:00,920
 about six months okay and then um if uh let's say it's six months let's just call it you know

722
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:06,280
 january to through june and we'll give it till july 1st if it was saying everything's done it's

723
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:14,760
 good to go july 1st uh projects would be subject to that based on when they're submitted or be

724
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:21,480
 projects are um or they they have to go through that model based off of what stage of the process

725
01:20:21,480 --> 01:20:27,480
 they're on uh that's kind of an arbitrary question but yeah we would probably look at all all projects

726
01:20:27,480 --> 01:20:34,440
 um there is there is that um review criteria um but again it's it's and i think it's important

727
01:20:34,440 --> 01:20:40,040
 for everyone to understand it it's not it's not just the only criteria and so if if it shows that

728
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:45,320
 it it's going to be negative i don't know that that's necessarily a reason to deny a project um

729
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:52,120
 if it's you know if you look at a an affordable housing project that might be um a non-profit

730
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:57,080
 that's developing it obviously there would be no tax generated by that um and so i don't think

731
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:03,720
 that's a reason to deny it obviously it's providing um you know a valuable a valuable um asset for the

732
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:09,240
 city for on the affordability side and so i think it's just one of those it's again it's one of many

733
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:13,960
 criteria that we have um but at least i think we'll have a better tool to look at it both

734
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:21,720
 um on the short term and long term okay what's 659 so i'll stop talking that i got i got several

735
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:27,000
 minutes in me actually i got i got many things to add uh to this matrix uh let me let me pull out my

736
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:35,240
 notes here uh is there anything else to add to the matrix well i just want to say uh 2020 was one

737
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:41,480
 hell of a year uh and i appreciate city staff uh doing an incredible job getting us on zoom and

738
01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:47,000
 preparing us and helping me out uh here in this office and actually making the city continue to

739
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:53,000
 run smooth so uh great job to the city and to the commissioners for for seeing this year through

740
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:58,840
 hopefully 2021 is more normal uh but Merry Christmas everyone uh with that i will close

741
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:03,720
 the meeting at seven o'clock Merry Christmas thanks Merry Christmas everybody