WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:10.260 There's Ed. Hi Ed. Morning. It is nine o'clock and we do have a quorum so we're called to 00:00:10.260 --> 00:00:17.980 order the December 14th public utilities board meeting for the City of Denton. The first 00:00:17.980 --> 00:00:28.080 item on the agenda is our consent agenda items A through, there was a lot, V. Does any board 00:00:28.080 --> 00:00:36.960 member wish to pull one of the items? Ed, go ahead. I'd like to pull item Q as in quick. 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:51.520 Okay. And Russ, I saw your hand up. Yes, item O and item P. O, P. Anyone else? Okay. So 00:00:51.520 --> 00:01:03.960 then do we have a motion to approve items A through N, R through V? So moved. Second. 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:12.600 All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Those items are approved. We'll start with item 00:01:12.600 --> 00:01:23.080 O. So we should have Terry Cater on the phone. So let me check. Terry, you on? This is Terry. 00:01:23.080 --> 00:01:41.080 Can you hear me? Yes, sir. Russ, you're on mute. Yep, you're on mute. Okay. This is a 00:01:41.080 --> 00:01:47.120 pretty easy one. When I went to the backup under exhibit one, that was the actual, it 00:01:47.120 --> 00:01:53.600 was not the background information for the agenda item that we normally see. So I don't 00:01:53.600 --> 00:02:01.640 know the background behind this item. I think this is the one that was just emailed. Emailed 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:08.920 to us, yes. I was just checking. She just emailed it to us, Russ. It just got attached 00:02:08.920 --> 00:02:15.760 wrong. We didn't have the AIS attached to it, Russ. So you should have it in your email. 00:02:15.760 --> 00:02:23.360 Emailed this morning? Yes. Yes, sir. Okay. So can we go over that background real quick 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:50.420 since I haven't read it yet? Yes, sir. Let me get it pulled up here. So basically the 00:02:50.420 --> 00:02:56.960 request is for the purchase of two rear load refuse trucks for solid waste. These trucks 00:02:56.960 --> 00:03:04.860 are 25 yard Hile bodies on a crane carrier chassis, which is a different type of chassis 00:03:04.860 --> 00:03:13.880 than we usually purchase. The reason for that is the ergonomics of getting in and out of 00:03:13.880 --> 00:03:23.600 the cab. These are a true low entry cab that Peterbilt does not currently offer. And these 00:03:23.600 --> 00:03:31.100 are both fleet replacements that were approved in the 2021 budget. The two trucks going out 00:03:31.100 --> 00:03:43.120 of service meet the replacement requirements. Did it have the score in there that your fleet 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:54.920 manager uses to judge when a piece of equipment is to be retired or replaced? I don't think 00:03:54.920 --> 00:04:01.440 that was included. It's just a description that it meets replacement requirements and 00:04:01.440 --> 00:04:10.360 they've, it gives the lifetime to date maintenance costs for each of those trucks, 101,000 and 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:22.800 808,000 respectively. They were a 2011 and 2012, Russ, if that helps you. Yeah. Oh, yeah, 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:29.760 he was, he was there for a few times. He was, we'd ask him to include a short description 00:04:29.760 --> 00:04:38.200 of his retirement criteria. He's got an index that he uses. Requirements and they've, it 00:04:38.200 --> 00:04:44.600 gives the lifetime to date maintenance costs for each of those trucks. Yeah. All we wanted 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:50.800 to do was see what that index was for every replacement that he requested. 11 and 2012, 00:04:50.800 --> 00:05:02.160 Russ, if that helps you. Yeah. No. Yeah, he was, he was there for a few times. He was, 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:11.800 we'd ask him to include a short description of his. So, staff member, this is Tony. We're 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:17.320 getting some feedback. So, if you have your, if you're on your computer online and you're 00:05:17.320 --> 00:05:24.200 on the phone, you need to please turn off your computer or mute it. Sorry about that, 00:05:24.200 --> 00:05:30.720 Russ, go ahead. No, that's all I was wondering about was I thought we were going to be getting 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:36.120 that really for every major replacement we had and, and your fleet manager agreed to 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:37.120 do that. 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:45.120 Yes, sir. I'll make sure that's included in every item from now on. I apologize for missing 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:59.000 that on this one. Okay. I have no further comments on that. All right, then item P. 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:07.840 When I read the background on this, if I understood it correctly, one year ago, we bought a new 00:06:07.840 --> 00:06:16.320 CAT 304 excavator and the description said it's undersized and now we want a new one. 00:06:16.320 --> 00:06:23.080 Why did we buy an undersized feast of equipment just a year ago? It was new because we never 00:06:23.080 --> 00:06:31.120 buy anything used. I know that. How did it happen that we bought an excavator too small 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:33.080 for its intended use? 00:06:33.080 --> 00:06:43.120 Yes, sir. So, a year and a half or two years ago when we planned that purchase, there have 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:48.040 been a lot of changes in the department that requested that machine. A lot of the people 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:55.360 that were there before that had the idea that that machine would work for them are no longer 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:59.880 in the department and I think the way the department operates has been changed as well. 00:06:59.880 --> 00:07:05.680 So, they have different operating parameters and we tried never to do that, but in this 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:11.800 case, this excavator turned out to be undersized for what their intended, actual intended use 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:19.440 is currently and our intention is to repurpose that machine to another department and let 00:07:19.440 --> 00:07:23.600 them make good use of it while we get this department a machine that will operate for 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:25.280 them. 00:07:25.280 --> 00:07:31.320 So, my follow-up question to that is if we bought something like that we don't need and 00:07:31.320 --> 00:07:36.960 rather than just stick it on the sidelines somewhere because we've got it now, we don't 00:07:36.960 --> 00:07:42.760 know what to do with it. Why don't we sell it while it's still got a fairly high resale 00:07:42.760 --> 00:07:52.600 value? It's only a year old. What's the objection to that and what's really the need for moving 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:55.360 it out for an alternative use? 00:07:55.360 --> 00:08:01.800 Well, the only way I would move it out is if we had an actual use for it currently and 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:06.360 we're looking for that in the departments. We're not going to keep it just to have it. 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:14.440 I don't have any objection to auctioning the equipment while it still has a lot of value 00:08:14.440 --> 00:08:20.440 to it if we can't find a need for it in the fleet. It would only be to, if we were going 00:08:20.440 --> 00:08:26.280 to buy another department that same excavator, then we would keep that one and repurpose 00:08:26.280 --> 00:08:31.280 it, but if there's not another department that has one coming up, we won't. 00:08:31.280 --> 00:08:36.000 I understand that when you ask a department, "Hey, do you want a new piece of equipment? 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:42.760 It's a year old." Sure, send it over. I can understand the appeal to that proposition, 00:08:42.760 --> 00:08:48.320 but I just wonder how smart it is to do that kind of stuff. I would suggest you look hard 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:59.280 at seeing, first of all, if it's really truly going to be used and if not, let's sell it. 00:08:59.280 --> 00:09:00.280 That's my suggestion. 00:09:00.280 --> 00:09:04.880 Yes, sir. That's exactly what we'll do. I mean, there would have to be justification 00:09:04.880 --> 00:09:09.720 to keep the machine if a department said they have a use for it. It's not just, "Hey, I 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:11.440 want it. Here you go." 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:17.600 Can you report back to the PUB at a future date about that evaluation you're going to 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:18.600 make? 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:19.600 I sure can. 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:20.600 Thank you. 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:28.560 Maybe we should go back and get the motion on item O. 00:09:28.560 --> 00:09:36.840 Yeah, I move we approve item O. 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:42.100 Was that Barbara or Karen? Karen, were you trying to ... Oh, Barbara. Okay. All in favor, 00:09:42.100 --> 00:09:43.100 say aye. 00:09:43.100 --> 00:09:44.100 Aye. 00:09:44.100 --> 00:09:50.040 Opposed? Okay, that motion carries. How about item P? Do we have a motion to approve item 00:09:50.040 --> 00:10:00.000 P, Ms. and Paul? Karen's moving. Do we have a second? Ed's seconding. All in favor, say 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:01.000 aye. 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:02.000 Aye. 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:03.000 Aye. 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:09.440 Opposed? All right, that one carries. Item Q. And Ed, you're muted, so if you want to 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:10.440 unmute. 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:18.080 Yeah, this is for item Q. I have a couple of questions and observations. I wanted to 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:28.440 know if there is any timeline in place for revisiting this solar and storage issue. 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:37.840 Hi, this is Tony. As of right now, I'm not aware of any specific time that we're supposed 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:41.800 to be looking at this, but it's something we continually look at in market studies and 00:10:41.800 --> 00:10:48.320 stuff, but as of right now, there's not a specific timeline for another RFP to go out. 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:54.640 Okay. Thank you for that. I'd like to make you aware of, or perhaps you already know 00:10:54.640 --> 00:11:02.900 about a program that Austin has called SHINES, and that is short for Sustainable and Holistic 00:11:02.900 --> 00:11:15.720 Integration of Energy Storage and Solar Voltakes. This is the sort of thing that we are rejecting, 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:24.380 and what I find interesting is that whereas the funding here, there was really no external 00:11:24.380 --> 00:11:31.080 funding for this, such as there is for the Austin program. The Austin gets federal, state, 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:37.400 and city sources from the US Department of Energy Solar Energy Technology Office, and 00:11:37.400 --> 00:11:43.960 the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality New Technology Implementation Grant, as well 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:51.720 as a fund that Austin Energy itself has established. So I would request, given the importance of 00:11:51.720 --> 00:12:03.920 this technology in reducing our use of fossil fuels, especially, that staff take a look 00:12:03.920 --> 00:12:11.280 at the Austin SHINES program and see if there's possibly any avenues toward approaching this 00:12:11.280 --> 00:12:16.160 project from the angle at which Austin approached theirs. 00:12:16.160 --> 00:12:24.520 Okay. If we can do that. Thank you very much. No problem. 00:12:24.520 --> 00:12:31.400 I just had a quick question for staff or anybody whose memory is better than mine. Is this 00:12:31.400 --> 00:12:34.600 the item we discussed in closed meeting last month? 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:41.840 Yes ma'am, it is. Okay. So my memory is that essentially it wasn't 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:49.040 cost effective, correct? Yeah. Well, what I'll say too is, what staff can 00:12:49.040 --> 00:12:54.160 do is we can go back and take a look at Ed's request and come back and kind of have a discussion 00:12:54.160 --> 00:13:00.160 with the full PUB and make sure that there's consensus on us doing anything on that item. 00:13:00.160 --> 00:13:04.280 So we'll put that on the list to do some research, come back to you here in the next couple of 00:13:04.280 --> 00:13:08.960 meetings and discuss that further with you. Great, thank you. 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:14.640 My name is Terry Gnalti. I just wanted to address one issue that Ed brought up. I think 00:13:14.640 --> 00:13:22.200 one thing for PUB to remember is that unlike Austin, Denton is 100% renewable. While we 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:30.260 do have the DEC, Austin is still less than 40% renewable and many of the programs that 00:13:30.260 --> 00:13:37.200 they are initiating are in an attempt to try to get to a more carbon neutral footprint. 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:45.120 I think the council and the PUB has been very forward thinking in achieving the 100% renewable 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:52.480 and so a lot of these programs that you're speaking of, Mr. Stouff, may make economic 00:13:52.480 --> 00:14:00.320 sense for Austin, but as we presented, I think last time, the economics of these types of 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:10.640 programs without really a high level of public funding, grant money and such would be a bit 00:14:10.640 --> 00:14:18.080 Oh, you're muted, Terry. Sorry about that. 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:24.360 I didn't hear the last part of what you said. I said that without that high level of federal 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:31.960 or state funding, the economics probably for us would be very dubious. 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:39.460 May I say something? I agree completely with what Terry has just said about our wonderful 00:14:39.460 --> 00:14:47.600 status as being 100% renewable. My concern and what I would like to see further discussion 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:58.360 about is the fact that right now, as of today, according to ERCOT's website, 58% of the grid 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:08.460 of the Texas grid is still fossil fuels. Wind and solar are 24%. Actually, if you break 00:15:08.460 --> 00:15:17.560 it down further, wind is 22% and solar is 2%. Whereas Denton is very, very green, the 00:15:17.560 --> 00:15:27.360 grid still isn't. I see projects such as Austin's, even though theirs is geared toward getting 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:35.560 to 100% renewable energy, but I see ours is going a step further and continuing to green 00:15:35.560 --> 00:15:46.400 the grid. I'm speaking out of, I admit, ignorance now, so someone can educate me. I was wondering 00:15:46.400 --> 00:15:54.840 if extra or energy that Denton say generated that we didn't use, that we generated through 00:15:54.840 --> 00:16:04.640 renewable resources like a battery solar installation, could the city or DME sell those as wrecks 00:16:04.640 --> 00:16:13.560 to other utilities or to other municipalities? But in any case, given the great concern that 00:16:13.560 --> 00:16:18.480 there is now about climate change, which is happening, and the fact that we're going to 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:23.940 have a new administration in Washington that is going to be climate friendly, I think we 00:16:23.940 --> 00:16:31.720 need to look outside of our own parameters and boundaries and see what we can do to not 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:40.360 only help our own air economy, et cetera, but make the grid better as well. So that's 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:52.760 my concern. Thank you. Okay, any other questions? Do we have a motion to approve item Q? So 00:16:52.760 --> 00:17:09.000 moved. Okay, all in favor say aye. Aye. I abstain. Thank you, Ed. That motion does carry though. 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:16.600 Questions for individual consideration. Approval of the November 9th, 2020 minutes. Corrections 00:17:16.600 --> 00:17:24.440 or changes? I'll move approval. Thank you, Charlie. Second? Second. All in favor say 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:35.640 aye. Aye. Item C, consider recommending the adoption of the ordinance for the City of 00:17:35.640 --> 00:17:41.240 Denton Utility System Extendable Commercial Paper Financing Program and authorizing the 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:47.240 Utility System Revenue Extendable Commercial Paper Note Series A in providing an effective 00:17:47.240 --> 00:18:02.200 date. Morning. Cassie Ogden, Director of Finance. Let me share my screen and I'll start. So 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:09.080 if you'll remember, we went through a detailed presentation in November regarding this Extendable 00:18:09.080 --> 00:18:15.440 Commercial Paper Program for the utilities. So just a little bit of background. November 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:25.400 2019, the citizens approved our bond election, which we then brought forward a general obligation 00:18:25.400 --> 00:18:30.440 Extendable Commercial Paper Program that council approved in April. And now we are coming to 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:38.040 you for a utilities Extendable Commercial Paper Program. So commercial paper, as we 00:18:38.040 --> 00:18:48.300 talked about last time, is a short-term financing. It's another tool in our toolbox, if you will. 00:18:48.300 --> 00:18:52.760 And if you have specific questions, I forgot to mention at the beginning, we do have our 00:18:52.760 --> 00:18:56.920 financial advisors as well as our bond council on the line. So just like last time, if you 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:04.940 have any specific items that we need to get into, they are here to help us. So as we discussed 00:19:04.940 --> 00:19:11.640 in November, this is really where our intention is to use it for the appropriation authority. 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:18.360 We're not necessarily looking at actually issuing commercial paper, but it is, like 00:19:18.360 --> 00:19:26.460 we said, another tool. So some of the benefits of this program, I'll turn your attention 00:19:26.460 --> 00:19:30.480 to bullet two. That's really what we're using it for is the appropriation authority so that 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:37.760 we don't have to have all of the cash on hand at the beginning of when we award the contract. 00:19:37.760 --> 00:19:43.120 And so we went through this example last time for the water treatment plant. Just as an 00:19:43.120 --> 00:19:50.640 example, we would issue the full $85 million before we awarded the contract. And then the 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:57.040 actual costs would be incurred throughout the life of the project. Whereas if we utilize 00:19:57.040 --> 00:20:07.080 commercial paper, we would match our debt issuance with our planned expenditures. And 00:20:07.080 --> 00:20:14.600 then projected timeline. So we discussed it in November and now we are seeking your approval 00:20:14.600 --> 00:20:21.860 of all of the documents that we will take to City Council in January. If Council approves, 00:20:21.860 --> 00:20:28.920 we will apply for and receive our credit rating and then close on the program in February. 00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:38.280 And with that, I will pull my screen down. And if you have any questions, any questions, 00:20:38.280 --> 00:20:46.080 please feel free to ask. Muted. Here we go. You said we were not the issuer, but in the 00:20:46.080 --> 00:20:53.080 document with U.S. Bank, it defines City of Denton as the issuer. So City of Denton would 00:20:53.080 --> 00:21:00.720 be legally considered the issuer of these debt obligations, correct? I believe so. Laura, 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:09.000 are you on the phone? Can you clarify? This is Laura Alexander with Hilltop Securities. 00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:14.840 The City is the issuer of the commercial paper in terms of that is the correct terminology. 00:21:14.840 --> 00:21:19.240 I think the intent was that the City is not going to actually issue commercial paper in 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:23.200 the near term. It's just used for appropriation authority. So that may be where the confusion 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:29.840 came in. Right. So we're going to pass this, but we won't use it, right? That's what you 00:21:29.840 --> 00:21:36.800 just told me, sort of. Yeah, it's kind of like a shelf filing, right? Okay. My only 00:21:36.800 --> 00:21:43.760 concern about this is the documents we were given to review for backup is one is between 00:21:43.760 --> 00:21:48.360 the arrangement between City of Denton and U.S. Bank, and the other one is between City 00:21:48.360 --> 00:21:57.520 of Denton and JP Morgan, who's a dealer. This question is not for U.S. Bank or for JP Morgan. 00:21:57.520 --> 00:22:04.880 So when we're getting into approaching doing something like this, I think that the City 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:13.600 of Denton should have a very carefully detailed written policy and procedure on who within 00:22:13.600 --> 00:22:19.240 the City of Denton is going to administer compliance with all the terms in these other 00:22:19.240 --> 00:22:28.400 agreements because unless we're very careful about how this is handled, you have you could 00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:34.320 have some financial liability there that you weren't bargaining for. And I think it would 00:22:34.320 --> 00:22:45.080 be very important to also consider regular reporting to the council with every on a regular 00:22:45.080 --> 00:22:51.320 basis on the fees. I notice the fee schedule that you want us to approve is blank. There's 00:22:51.320 --> 00:22:58.760 no fee schedule in the backup information. And so are we supposed to approve a blank 00:22:58.760 --> 00:23:06.400 fee schedule? Is that the idea as well? The estimated costs right now are about $255,000, 00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:10.720 but we do not have the final cost for our bond council. So that's the outstanding piece. 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:17.240 And we did provide that in the AIS in November when we discussed it. We can we can send that 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:24.240 over to you or the whole board in a separate email. As far as the policies and procedures, 00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:28.760 we actually do have an internal written document that dictates our policies and procedures 00:23:28.760 --> 00:23:36.160 and who is responsible for what as far as city staff. And we can also forward that to 00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:44.880 the board for your review. Okay. Along with bond council has. Yes. And there are there 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:53.000 are annual requirements as far as reporting that we do have to follow. Okay. Well, Russ, 00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:58.440 and I also want to say, you know, just to be clear, even though we may not be issuing 00:23:58.440 --> 00:24:05.600 the commercial paper, we are using it for appropriation purposes to meet state law requirements 00:24:05.600 --> 00:24:11.160 so that we don't have to issue bonds sooner than we need to. So that's really the main 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:16.880 purpose of this program is the appropriation components that we can enter into multi-year 00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:22.760 contracts without having to issue the actual bonds before we need them. So I just want 00:24:22.760 --> 00:24:27.480 to make sure that we that we're clear on on how the program is going to be used. Yeah, 00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:33.920 I understand the desire to smooth out the cash flow needs and make the cash disbursement 00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:40.720 more in line with when the expenses are incurred. I understand that. My only concern is let's 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:46.120 let's make sure that the city of Denton is adequately documented documenting the procedure 00:24:46.120 --> 00:24:55.720 that city of Denton is going to use to administer all this. And then the the schedule of fees 00:24:55.720 --> 00:25:01.980 literally is blank that you gave us to look at. So the documents that you have in front 00:25:01.980 --> 00:25:07.020 of you are in the backup were actually our draft documents. Council will not review them 00:25:07.020 --> 00:25:12.920 until January. And so we are still we're still doing some due diligence with our financial 00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:19.240 advisors and bond council trying to finalize everything. And so we can we can absolutely 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:25.920 give you the schedule of fees whenever that is finalized. If you remember, we had we changed 00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:30.720 our timetable when we were originally discussing this in November because of the limited P.U.B. 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:36.080 deans. So we weren't intending to bring this back to you until January. But we're we're 00:25:36.080 --> 00:25:42.040 back in December so we can get to council in January now. Because otherwise the schedule 00:25:42.040 --> 00:25:50.080 was showing that we got it after the fact from council. And I didn't personally like 00:25:50.080 --> 00:25:58.840 that. So you want us to approve the fee schedule that's blank, correct? The free schedule we 00:25:58.840 --> 00:26:05.940 have to look at is blank. There's no information on it. We're asking you to approve or recommend 00:26:05.940 --> 00:26:13.040 approval to council for the extendable commercial paper program for utilities. But we're approving 00:26:13.040 --> 00:26:26.000 the program. Yes. Not the fee structure. So is there a council is there a way that we 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:34.040 can make this approval, but note to city council that we have approved it blank with the intention 00:26:34.040 --> 00:26:39.040 that once the numbers are filled in, they'll make a rational decision. Once those numbers 00:26:39.040 --> 00:26:44.080 are known, we can provide that information to council. Absolutely. Yeah, I would have 00:26:44.080 --> 00:26:51.920 no problem agreeing with the concept at all. The concept I get I understand agree with. 00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:57.280 But I agree with Russ's comment that it's an awful lot like signing a blank check. If 00:26:57.280 --> 00:27:04.400 we recommend approval of this with the fees blank. I think that's a good catch. And I 00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:09.200 realize in order to accomplish this on a timely basis, you can't know all the answers until 00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:15.560 the approval process begins. But at this point, it ought to be fairly easiest for us to make 00:27:15.560 --> 00:27:22.120 sure that council knows that we have approved it subject to a rational fee schedule being 00:27:22.120 --> 00:27:29.200 completed. And I think you could make that motion just that way, Charlie. Okay, I will 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:39.760 move approval of the program with the notation that subject to councils review of the fee 00:27:39.760 --> 00:27:48.960 schedule, which is blank at this time. Second. All right. And emotion in a second. All in 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:58.240 favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed. All right. Does that give you what you need? It does to move 00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:13.920 forward. Yes, sir. Next item is item C. Execute a contract with Rayrug Pacific Company through 00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:20.320 the US communities government purchasing Alliance contract 0254 for the purchase of residential 00:28:20.320 --> 00:28:30.800 refuse recycling and yard waste cart carts in the amount not to exceed $3,862,000. Susan, 00:28:30.800 --> 00:28:34.060 we have a couple of staff members. Let me let me step in the hallway and grab them so 00:28:34.060 --> 00:28:55.080 they can come in and get ready to do that presentation. So I believe we have Adrian 00:28:55.080 --> 00:29:00.720 Hill. He's our solid waste operations manager who's going to walk through a brief presentation. 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:05.780 We also have Eugene McKinney, who's our deputy director for solid waste available as well 00:29:05.780 --> 00:29:34.280 in the room. So Adrian. Just going to walk up there. We have a presentation. We have 00:29:34.280 --> 00:30:02.640 a presentation. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:29.960 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:55.720 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 00:30:55.720 --> 00:31:24.060 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 00:31:24.060 --> 00:31:52.280 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 00:31:52.280 --> 00:31:58.480 Yeah. Good morning. My name is Adrian Hill. I'm the collections manager for the solid 00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:02.400 waste and recycling department. I want to run through a quick slides. There's about 00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:13.600 four of them. Just some background on this. I'm not going to read it word for word. 2005 00:32:13.600 --> 00:32:19.240 the city of didn't began using the cart for the collections department three years later 00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:24.360 in 2008. The city of didn't sign a contract with Ray Rick Pacific Company provide the 00:32:24.360 --> 00:32:33.000 risk the refuse and recycling carts on October 1st 2019 Ray rig supplied the city of didn't 00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:40.120 with yard waste parts for the new yard waste program that we set out. So the past 12 years 00:32:40.120 --> 00:32:51.880 we've been using the regular carts containers are are made from 100% recyclable material. 00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:57.560 Ray Rick is located in Dallas, Texas. So it's it cuts down on freight as well as delivery 00:32:57.560 --> 00:33:08.440 time. Ray Rick also offers a 10 year replacement warranty on all carts and parts. The solid 00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:14.900 waste is hoping to sign a new contract with with the Ray Rick Company for five years for 00:33:14.900 --> 00:33:20.840 three point eight six two million dollars. This this contract will allow us to continue 00:33:20.840 --> 00:33:33.880 a contract with purchasing carts recycle trash and yard waste carts. I'll stop sharing if 00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:55.760 you have any questions. Okay. Yes, Ed, go ahead. You're muted. Okay. Thanks, Charlie. 00:33:55.760 --> 00:34:02.800 What is the lifespan typical lifespan of these carts? We have carts out there. Like I said 00:34:02.800 --> 00:34:07.360 12 years ago we started using these Ray Rick carts and we still have carts out there from 00:34:07.360 --> 00:34:19.920 the from the first purchase ever. Over the five years that three million eight hundred 00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:25.800 and sixty two dollar contract boils down to seven hundred and seventy two thousand four 00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:34.080 hundred dollars per year I believe. Yes, sir. I I you'll have to pardon me but I don't if 00:34:34.080 --> 00:34:40.440 there's first of all there's a 10 year replacement guarantee. Well what's the what what the growth 00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:48.480 of the city of didn't we're getting maybe 300 new residents assigned cart so every cart 00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:54.280 it comes in a set. So that's that's two carts. So that's at least 600 carts that we're we're 00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:59.640 putting out a month and that's that's not including any of the damaged carts and before 00:34:59.640 --> 00:35:04.520 the the 10 year contract we had a different or before the other contract we had a different 00:35:04.520 --> 00:35:09.200 provider and we're having to replace those carts out in the field as well. So let me 00:35:09.200 --> 00:35:15.040 get see if I understand this. So this money is not only for replacement parts it's for 00:35:15.040 --> 00:35:21.320 new carts as well. Correct. Oh I thought I was saying those are mighty expensive wheels. 00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:30.400 There's a guarantees in there. OK. Thanks a lot. I appreciate it. I have a quick question. 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:37.720 When somebody has a problem with their cart does the city do that sometimes for free sometimes 00:35:37.720 --> 00:35:47.280 charge you know if somebody is seems to be mistreating it. Yes sir. All carts are replaced 00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:51.440 on a call basis so if a customer calls in I have a crack down my cart or a wheel needs 00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:57.800 to replace and it's all done for free. It's part of the the rental fee that they're paying 00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:04.600 every month or their their the fee that they pay the for the service. I'm sorry. OK. Thank 00:36:04.600 --> 00:36:15.560 you. Any other questions. All right. Do we have a motion to approve. I'll move. I'm second 00:36:15.560 --> 00:36:25.720 I guess. All in favor say aye. Aye. All right. Next item is consider recommending the adoption 00:36:25.720 --> 00:36:30.880 of the ordinance with the city of Denton and Texas meter and device company for meter reading 00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:35.880 services for the water department providing for the expenditure of funds therefore providing 00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:43.760 an effective date of one year for the option of four more additional years and one year 00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:48.240 extensions in the total five year not to exceed amount of two million six hundred and thirty 00:36:48.240 --> 00:36:55.520 six thousand dollars. Susan let me let me go grab a Chris Luttrek. He'll be walking into 00:36:55.520 --> 00:37:24.080 that presentation. OK. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 00:37:24.080 --> 00:37:46.640 Good morning. P.B. Chris Chris Luttrek executive manager of operations at DME presentation 00:37:46.640 --> 00:38:14.720 for you on a contract to provide water water meter reading services. So just a little background 00:38:14.720 --> 00:38:19.840 you may be a little confused why the electric fund is here given a presentation on on the 00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:25.800 water the water fund issue. But the city of Denton provides water service to residents 00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:30.880 by a municipal water utility and currently has about thirty nine thousand four hundred 00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:36.440 customers. The current technology used are mechanical water meters. They measure and 00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:42.880 track the water as some dials that mechanically spin on the meter. And these meters must be 00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:48.760 read manually. So someone must go out open up the can look down in it and see what the 00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:56.640 usage is for the given cycle. So that function back in the day DME had electromechanical 00:38:56.640 --> 00:39:02.200 meters as well. So when we would send somebody out we'd send out one person they would read 00:39:02.200 --> 00:39:06.600 the electric meter and then they would read the water meter at the same house. So it made 00:39:06.600 --> 00:39:13.560 sense for that to be done by one utility DME must have drawn the short straw so they got 00:39:13.560 --> 00:39:20.160 to read the meters. So but over the last 10 years DME has moved over to a AMI system it's 00:39:20.160 --> 00:39:27.040 advanced the meter infrastructure where these meters now are electronic and they use a radio 00:39:27.040 --> 00:39:32.840 signal. So whenever we ping them we just send a command and these meters will send the read 00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:39.000 in to basically our our billing system so that we don't have to go out and manually 00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:45.480 read the meters. Water has has not converted to that technology. So there's still a need 00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:50.520 to go out and manually read the meters. That function stayed within the electric fund. 00:39:50.520 --> 00:40:01.280 So we have get to the next slide. That that that task is performed by seven FTS when fully 00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:07.760 staffed. They are DME employees. They are they are supported by a lead technician a 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:13.100 meter billing coordinator and they're managed by the meter data and billing supervisor. 00:40:13.100 --> 00:40:18.800 So what that is is setting up the routes the cycles coordinating who's working that day 00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:25.120 and making sure that all of the cycles are read on time. These guys read about 350 meters 00:40:25.120 --> 00:40:31.480 per day. They are troopers. They work summers when it's it's 110 degrees and in the winter 00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:38.120 and in the rain they walk about four to eight miles per day reading these meters. So our 00:40:38.120 --> 00:40:43.640 total reads per year about four hundred and seventy five thousand. And again this is this 00:40:43.640 --> 00:40:49.440 is in the DME budget but the water fund has an inner fund transfer every year. And last 00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:53.940 year that fund transfer was about nine hundred forty thousand dollars that the water fund 00:40:53.940 --> 00:41:00.880 transfers over to the electric fund to cover the expense of reading their meters. So looking 00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:07.080 to the future one of the items today on your consent agenda was a feasibility study that 00:41:07.080 --> 00:41:13.480 the water fund is undertaking to take a look at what AMI would look like for the city of 00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:19.320 didn't in the in the water department. So that that's a study that will go out they'll 00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:24.480 tell us is the cost should it be done. And the big thing that we'll look at is being 00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:31.080 we already have an AMI system for the electric for electric meters. Can we have a technology 00:41:31.080 --> 00:41:37.760 that will service both the electric and the water meters. A key benefit of this is you 00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:42.520 don't have to send someone out to manually read the meter and you have the meter to cash 00:41:42.520 --> 00:41:49.880 functionality. So the signal will come out will seamlessly flow through the processor 00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:56.000 into our North Star and we'll be able to generate a bill. So and if this technology is feasible 00:41:56.000 --> 00:42:01.360 so it's determined that financially it's a good deal for the city of didn't the implementation 00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:09.280 of this infrastructure is going to take several years. So in the in the transition period 00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:14.160 you know what do we do with our FTEs that currently read read meters. So we do have 00:42:14.160 --> 00:42:19.960 a plan for that this number here says five current FTEs that is now down to four. One 00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:27.960 of our one of our meter technicians just received another position in the city. So in the meantime 00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:33.360 we actually currently already using contractors to help out our meter readers. So this summer 00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:38.840 we kind of got shorthanded we knew this was coming down coming down the pipeline. We didn't 00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:43.280 want to go fill those FTEs and then have to do something with them. So we've been working 00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:50.880 shorthanded guys have been working overtime doing double shifts and we brought in a contractor 00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:55.200 on just just a single contractor to see how that would work. And it actually has worked 00:42:55.200 --> 00:43:02.240 very well so that the contractors provide basically the labor and the vehicle and and 00:43:02.240 --> 00:43:07.680 then we provide the rest. So the contracted services going forward will provide the same 00:43:07.680 --> 00:43:13.280 service at a substantially lower cost to the ratepayers and that savings is approximately 00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:19.340 three hundred and sixty thousand dollars per year. And that is with using their their labor 00:43:19.340 --> 00:43:28.560 versus using city FTEs. DME is currently upgraded and we're mostly upgraded to a new a new field 00:43:28.560 --> 00:43:34.360 collection system. The old days we had kind of an ITRON handheld computer that looked 00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:38.260 like an old brick phone these guys are carrying around and all they did is type in a meter 00:43:38.260 --> 00:43:45.700 number and and a value in there. Nowadays we've gone to where that's a smartphone application. 00:43:45.700 --> 00:43:51.000 It's the same company it's ITRON but it's it's much easier for them to carry. It has 00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:56.200 cellular communication so if they type in miss a digit and it's way out of whack it'll 00:43:56.200 --> 00:44:01.240 say hey turn around and walk back and go check that meter again take a picture. So that's 00:44:01.240 --> 00:44:06.200 really helped out on our having to send guys back out to do rereads. And then the big benefit 00:44:06.200 --> 00:44:12.000 of this is it actually geo locates our meters. So one of the issue we had with going to contractors 00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:18.880 is that the the water meters on our system are not located. We generally have a map that 00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:23.680 shows this this residence or this business has a meter but it doesn't show exactly where 00:44:23.680 --> 00:44:30.860 it is. So actually our our staff knows where these routes are. So it takes a staff member 00:44:30.860 --> 00:44:34.900 walking along with a contractor for at least a month showing them where all the meters 00:44:34.900 --> 00:44:39.880 are so that we can get them read. With this new system that we just have a couple of bugs 00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:45.860 to get worked out the actual handheld device will be like a map. So it'll be able to say 00:44:45.860 --> 00:44:52.080 hey walk here now walk over to here and it'll actually be able to locate the the meters. 00:44:52.080 --> 00:44:56.600 And finally is is this this this whole intent of bringing the contractors in to do this 00:44:56.600 --> 00:45:02.800 service is not to eliminate positions for our staff members that are doing this role 00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:08.880 knowing that that probably that we're headed towards an AMI system for water meter technology 00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:14.880 at some point. It was just kind of a job that kind of had a end of life date. So we've given 00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:19.720 them we've given them notice. We've actually had a couple of staff members that have moved 00:45:19.720 --> 00:45:27.320 on and we also have have reopened some positions that used to be at DME. So one of the things 00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:32.000 I said earlier was we had electric service when we go out and look at electric meter 00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:36.520 you can see around the service you can see something was loose or weather had you actually 00:45:36.520 --> 00:45:43.000 put eyes on the meter every month and you could proactively do some maintenance on some 00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:47.160 issues be a tree growing around it or something. So the worst example we've had is when we 00:45:47.160 --> 00:45:51.980 went to AMI you no longer have to do that. So we went out and had a meter that was not 00:45:51.980 --> 00:45:57.240 acting correctly and a tree had grown around the meter and was trying to pull the meter 00:45:57.240 --> 00:46:02.960 out of the meter socket. So one of the things one of the positions that we've budgeted that 00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:08.280 we're waiting to fill until we get this contract in place is an AMI service inspector. So that's 00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:13.880 that's a prime position for one of our meter technicians to move over to where we'll actually 00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:18.120 go out and start inspecting meters. So we'll try to put eyes on every meter in the city 00:46:18.120 --> 00:46:22.880 of Denton every year to do some proactive maintenance. Is there anything is the display 00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:28.400 cracked is it weathered. So to provide a better level of service for our customers where these 00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:33.400 failures that we have we find out after the fact after the power goes out to the citizens. 00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:41.440 We also have another position where would be a apprentice electrician spot opening up. 00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:46.980 So we already have a couple of positions at DME opening up for these guys they could potentially 00:46:46.980 --> 00:46:54.280 apply for and then kind of the catch all is if these any any staff members that are still 00:46:54.280 --> 00:47:00.320 there when we convert over to the contractor the contractor has a program where they could 00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:05.360 apply if they really love reading water meters they can apply with the contractor and if 00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:10.240 they meet the contractors requirements they would be taken on to work for the contractor. 00:47:10.240 --> 00:47:15.480 So that's that's our plan is to transition those guys make sure they have a job before 00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:22.680 we bring in a contractor to to provide that service. So that's the transition period. 00:47:22.680 --> 00:47:28.200 So in summer summary the contractor reading service will allow this transition to get 00:47:28.200 --> 00:47:32.880 us from where we are today to where we want to be in the future without eliminating any 00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:39.640 positions from from DME the service we provided the same level of service at the rate payers 00:47:39.640 --> 00:47:44.040 are accustomed to. So our will still have the billing oversight will still be handled 00:47:44.040 --> 00:47:51.720 by DME the and the management of this contract will still be done with the DME meter department 00:47:51.720 --> 00:47:56.560 and again the the biggest point we have is existing staff will have the opportunity to 00:47:56.560 --> 00:48:03.720 migrate to another position in the city. So with that I'll answer any take this down 00:48:03.720 --> 00:48:14.080 and answer any questions. Questions. Well you must have done a fabulous job Chris. 00:48:14.080 --> 00:48:22.280 Actually I have a couple of questions. Okay. Nothing. Sorry Charlie. Can I get your email 00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:32.720 address. Mine. Chris. Yes sir. Chris dot Lutrik at city of Denton dot com. And how does Lutrik 00:48:32.720 --> 00:48:45.320 get spelled. L U T R I C K. Okay. And I just want to comment while you're making that I've 00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:54.120 been in the city 22 years and have never encountered a misread on a water meter or electric meter. 00:48:54.120 --> 00:49:01.040 And so I want to express my thanks to to your team. That's pretty impressive. I've been 00:49:01.040 --> 00:49:07.280 in the residential meter reading kind of business in my property management. That's just really 00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:16.880 impressive. And are they really able to read every 90 seconds a meter. That 350 per day. 00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:21.520 That just sounds amazing. It is. Yes sir it is. And there's actually days where they're 00:49:21.520 --> 00:49:28.520 that number pushes 450. So they have some shorter routes that they can get done earlier. 00:49:28.520 --> 00:49:34.560 But yeah there's they're out there you know six seven hours a day. All right. When the 00:49:34.560 --> 00:49:41.640 other questions are done I'm ready to move for approval. Go ahead. I don't have a question. 00:49:41.640 --> 00:49:47.960 I just wanted to thank you for making sure that these fellows who have been doing this 00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:52.400 arduous work are still going to be employed in some manner either by the city or by the 00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:58.320 contractor. Great. Great for the reputation of the department. Great for the reputation 00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:04.480 of the city. Thank you Mr. So that was one of our our our focuses is you know it is we 00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:09.880 do have to look out for our ratepayers for money. But how can we do that in a responsible 00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:15.080 manner. So that was always one of our kind of our guiding principles. We were not in 00:50:15.080 --> 00:50:20.520 a hurry. We've been discussing this for a year but we thought we that this plan worked 00:50:20.520 --> 00:50:27.000 out best to transition in a manner that takes care of the ratepayers and it takes care of 00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:36.600 our employees. Wonderful. Any other questions. All right. I think you had a motion Charlie. 00:50:36.600 --> 00:50:46.200 I move approval. And Ed seconding. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed. All right. Motion 00:50:46.200 --> 00:50:51.240 carries. Management reports. Thank you for your time. Thank you Chris. It's good to see 00:50:51.240 --> 00:50:58.120 your face. I haven't seen it in a long time. Thank you. So Madam Chair and members on the 00:50:58.120 --> 00:51:06.000 future public P.B. agenda items currently for January 11th we have you know two obviously 00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:11.440 there'll be other items on that agenda but two that we want to highlight. Well finance 00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:18.440 will be bringing forward a reimbursement ordinance. This is to authorize approval to move forward 00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:26.400 with some of the capital improvement projects that are included in the FY 2021 CIP program 00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:32.680 that'll be for water wastewater and electric and then customer services currently working 00:51:32.680 --> 00:51:40.320 on an update on some some challenges that we've seen over the last you know a couple 00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:48.280 months regarding the online portal. You know we did have a request we did get a request 00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:52.200 for that presentation but it was something that we were already planning to do anyway 00:51:52.200 --> 00:51:58.960 so we'll be bringing that forward to you through our customer service folks Krista Foster will 00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:03.960 be bringing that forward and then for the new business action items to have a few items 00:52:03.960 --> 00:52:11.240 on here the first two are related to the solid waste and anticipate that those will be certainly 00:52:11.240 --> 00:52:17.880 after the first of the year but in conjunction with the solid waste strategies that we're 00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:26.160 working on we have again the online portal challenges listed on here as a request and 00:52:26.160 --> 00:52:31.760 we the final item that we're also kind of working on based on your last the last meeting 00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:38.640 that we had so questions about you know by by America or made in America and so we we 00:52:38.640 --> 00:52:44.080 have met with the finance department and and legal and they're preparing a discussion for 00:52:44.080 --> 00:52:50.040 you as well on that particular topic on what what may be available for your consideration 00:52:50.040 --> 00:52:55.080 so with that those are the items that we have kind of pending for you I'm happy to answer 00:52:55.080 --> 00:52:58.760 any questions or if there's anything else that the that the committee would like or 00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:04.680 the board would like to have included happy to discuss that yeah I have a couple of things 00:53:04.680 --> 00:53:12.760 first of all I understand that of December 4th all the funds for solar incentives were 00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:20.960 used and I just want to congratulate you guys on the success of the program and great community 00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:27.800 education people know about this now I went on some solar installer sites and it's prominently 00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:33.440 mentioned there as well so the word is out and I understand that the the beginning of 00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:40.160 the next fiscal year in October that that the fund will be re will be replenished and 00:53:40.160 --> 00:53:45.840 I hope that we can find a way to boost it because there obviously is the demand for 00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:54.760 it so I thank you very much for that secondly I would appreciate an update on the situation 00:53:54.760 --> 00:54:04.440 with the Givens Creek power plant and sorry and if you allow me I'll let me speak on that 00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:13.760 so so last week on Thursday the the TMPA board did approve an asset purchase agreement with 00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:21.400 Chara for the sale of that facility we're currently working on on getting an update 00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:27.720 to the PEB into the council with that information that that APA is available already on on TMPA's 00:54:27.720 --> 00:54:33.920 website so so you can go out there and take a look at it now it is all it was all done 00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:40.760 in a public meeting and so but we are preparing that for you and we'll be sending that to 00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:46.300 you here if not at the end of this week next the following week but we are we have scheduled 00:54:46.300 --> 00:54:52.960 I was not listed on here on January 11th we will be coming to you in work session to have 00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:58.720 a discussion with you about that deal and then the plan would be that we would come 00:54:58.720 --> 00:55:06.240 back to you to the council on the 12th and then on January 25th to the board and into 00:55:06.240 --> 00:55:12.580 the council on the 26th for consideration of approval of that APA that APA does require 00:55:12.580 --> 00:55:18.280 that all four member cities approve a unanimously for it to actually be signed and executed 00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:23.800 but the board TMPA board did approve that last Thursday and so again those documents 00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:30.120 are available on their website today if if you'd like to take a look at them thank you 00:55:30.120 --> 00:55:40.880 very much yes sir and I have one more item okay as I understand it there are 525 residential 00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:48.760 photovoltaic or solar installations in the city there's 23 commercial and three industrial 00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:58.720 what I what am requesting is I would like to see data showing the total amount of electricity 00:55:58.720 --> 00:56:10.400 of electricity generated by these installations over the past over the past year over 2019 00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:15.400 and I would also like to know how much of that generated electricity was returned to 00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:22.520 the grid because it wasn't used by the household or the commercial or industrial facility and 00:56:22.520 --> 00:56:29.440 if possible I would like to know how much of that electricity was generated at peak 00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:45.120 demand times that's thank you and then rest I you hand right yeah I would like to see 00:56:45.120 --> 00:56:49.920 a list if we could get a list of the items that are purchased that are considered to 00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:56.680 be sole source we see that term frequently and the items were asked to approve sole source 00:56:56.680 --> 00:57:03.080 which means we don't shop for anything we just pay whatever it is the vendor wants and 00:57:03.080 --> 00:57:09.200 I'd like to see a list of those for the utility department whether it's hardware or software 00:57:09.200 --> 00:57:17.160 or services so I get a better understanding of the size of this it doesn't have to be 00:57:17.160 --> 00:57:36.360 January it can be February or or March but that's it Barbara you're on mute 00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:51.000 all right how's it good I don't know if there's anything new out there that you thought about 00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:57.160 or that you can do something about but our dumpsters continue to have people that fill 00:57:57.160 --> 00:58:04.840 up dumpsters that they don't pay for and pile trash around it that the person that 00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:10.080 pays for it gets notified that they're to take care of it and basically they're taking 00:58:10.080 --> 00:58:15.880 care of other people's trash when they leave it around the dumpster I don't know if there's 00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:20.120 let's continue to look and see if there's anything we can do because no one likes to 00:58:20.120 --> 00:58:28.040 get a call that someone's put a sofa in front of their dumpster and and it doesn't belong 00:58:28.040 --> 00:58:35.880 to the tenants so if you've got anything new on that that would be great yes ma'am thank 00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:45.600 you anything else like I guess that was kind of concluding items wasn't it and are there 00:58:45.600 --> 00:58:50.840 any other comments or items that a board member would like to see placed on the agenda in 00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:58.960 the future well I'd like to say Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to everyone Merry Christmas 00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:06.920 to everyone Merry Christmas Happy Holidays I I'm sorry go ahead Barbara next meeting 00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:21.680 11th moment okay motion to adjourn so moved okay we are adjourned thank you everybody